#Suggestion : Token system for giving help and receiving help

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jaunty mural
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What if everyone start with 10 tokens, when you help someone they give you one of their token. That way people are incentivized to give help and not only receive help.
In my mind it would be like on torrent websites where to keep download rates consistent there would be things like that.

broken ember
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A lot of people already give help without incentives. Plus this'll encourage people to spam chatgpt for tokens.

sudden stratus
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Yeah this really shoots beginners in the foot as well, where they don't know the good practice to really help people, but have to make stuff up just so they can get questions answered

supple salmon
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I think we had a couple of those suggestions before. don't have any thread at hand though. Pretty sure we denied this before for various reasons, such as the ones above

vocal umbra
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This is not the type of culture we have facilitated or that has grown here, and we don't see any incentive for this type of system, people continue to come and use this server because it's providing value to them. Suprisingly, people who get help, and eventually gain enough knowledge to be able to help others, wind up doing so typically. So it's self fueling ^_^

jaunty mural
broken ember
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ChatGPT can provide useful answers. Occasionally. But it's more than people will reply to things they have no knowledge about in the hopes of getting tokens.

jaunty mural
broken ember
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Oh dear

jaunty mural
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you regulate it by adjusting prices, if there are the more people want to buy the more expensive it becomes to buy and the more valuable it is to sell tokens
the discord owner takes a small cut and get rich

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everyone become happy !

dusty dew
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is there an example of a server that has a system like this and seen it be valuable?

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I'd be interested to know if it works and what exactly other servers have done

glacial jacinth
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This seems like it'd give all of the wrong incentives. People are already willing to help, there's no need to incentivize doing so.
If you want to pay someone to help you then hire a freelancer.

sudden stratus
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Not to mention you'd end up with some sort of token monopoly

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a lot of the regulars that would be answering questions aren't as often askign them, which means you'd be building them up

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and if we take the obviously joking suggestion of buying and selling them at face value, it would just lead to the regulars getting a pay day, while the token price plummets

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it's just many many layers of bad for a help community

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now a reputation system i could fathom being ever so minorly useful, but still wholly unnecessary for this community imo

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though it might be good to spot the occasional troll we have pop up and stay a while (for newcomers at least)

grand ruin
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mellow cairn
patent gate
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you could adjust the system so that you dont have a certain amount of coins to give but have the coins given for giving a "functioning/working" answer by others who use the answer. You could display theyre coin count next to the name to make your answers carry more weight next time around.

mellow cairn
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it seems like a solution looking for a problem imo

patent gate
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Im thinking the helpful motive could have people seeing it like a exp points system

broken ember
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It seems like somebody wants to show off the coins they got.

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Not necessarily you, Rick.

vocal umbra
patent gate
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it was just a thought, phone apps abuse that human trait of wanting ( to show off the coins they got.) all the time and it works pretty good for them

sudden stratus
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I have a feeling the people that would want to show off how much help they give, probably aren't the ones you'd want helping you.
There would be a lot of people at the peak of that Dunning-Kreuger wanting to collect their coins to show off, but doing so by giving bad answers they believe to be sound logic

patent gate
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all ideas have theyre holes/cons in them, it was just my first thought as a solution to the buy/sell spamming for the coins, do to having monetary value, but you all make good points

weak merlin
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One of the worst traits of a rewards based system (which is easily compared to for our situation in something like Stack Overflow) is its tendency to trend towards elitism.

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Answering questions isn't a game.

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Introducing some type of incentive turns it into one.

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For this reason I would never support what ultimately becomes a superficial status for individuals on this server.

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Our current approach works.

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Everyone is on the same playing field.

vocal umbra