#career-chat | Unreal Source | Page 32

digital gate Oct 13, 2016, 2:50 AM

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Not a misuse by the way it's used on the forums.

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To my knowledge.

kindred mason Oct 13, 2016, 2:51 AM

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This isn't the forums

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But anyway, like I said, it is confusing with the current "rule set"

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If it is allowed, then a new tag system should be set in place for those looking for work.

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If this gets bigger in the future, perhaps two separate channels

digital gate Oct 13, 2016, 2:52 AM

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IDK

kindred mason Oct 13, 2016, 2:54 AM

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But, I do like what @earnest jasper suggested with the [Available] tag

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It can be as simple as that

digital gate Oct 13, 2016, 2:54 AM

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Yeah, but then how do you differentiate people available for paid work vs those who are just trying to get unpaid work?

kindred mason Oct 13, 2016, 2:55 AM

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Shouldn't you post that in your post?

digital gate Oct 13, 2016, 2:55 AM

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I see no issue with making the tag system here be more explicitly like the tag system in the forums.

kindred mason Oct 13, 2016, 2:55 AM

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No idea how the forums do it, but I'll take your word on it.

digital gate Oct 13, 2016, 2:56 AM

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By using the same terminology but leaving it ambiguous, it's confusing.

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They have different channels now

kindred mason Oct 13, 2016, 2:56 AM

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I just popped open the pins

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And I see 4 Paids

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5

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If anything, the LFW or AVAILABLE or whatever, should be placed in the front

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Not towards the end

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TO help distingush jobs from people searching for work

digital gate Oct 13, 2016, 2:57 AM

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But when they used to have both in the same channel, you'd add [LFW] if you were available for work. [PAID], [CONTRACT], [ROYALTY], and [UNPAID] were used on either job offers or portfolio posts.

kindred mason Oct 13, 2016, 2:58 AM

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So the forums have two separate subforums?

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probably the best way to do it here then

digital gate Oct 13, 2016, 2:58 AM

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So if you were OK with everything but UNPAID, and looking for work, it'd be [LFW] [PAID] [CONTRACT] [ROYALTY].

kindred mason Oct 13, 2016, 2:58 AM

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If not, make a rule that LFW has to be in the front

digital gate Oct 13, 2016, 2:59 AM

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Only reason my LFW isn't is because **[LFW]** would not be pinned.

kindred mason Oct 13, 2016, 2:59 AM

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I know

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So, you guys need to get that fixed so you don't confuse others 😃

earnest jasper Oct 13, 2016, 3:00 AM

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can I get an [UNAVAILABLE] tag so that it seems like I'm in high demand?

digital gate Oct 13, 2016, 3:00 AM

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How is it confusing if there is a clear [LFW] tag in the tag section, and a follow up at the end?

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It's not like it reads

kindred mason Oct 13, 2016, 3:00 AM

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Because people are lazy

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And will not read to the end

digital gate Oct 13, 2016, 3:00 AM

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''[PAID] Such and such, blah blah, this experience, bythewaynotajoboffer"

kindred mason Oct 13, 2016, 3:00 AM

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look at yours for instance

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that shit is 3 deep

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and then you still have a whole wall of text

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I am just saying, from someone that would hire people from here, it's confusing

digital gate Oct 13, 2016, 3:01 AM

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Well excuse me dude.

kindred mason Oct 13, 2016, 3:01 AM

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?

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You are misplacing my candidness

digital gate Oct 13, 2016, 3:02 AM

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Amend:

[PAID][LFW] TL;DR: worth PM'ing
[NOT A JOB OFFER]```

kindred mason Oct 13, 2016, 3:04 AM

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I see, that is what you mean by "position offer"

digital gate Oct 13, 2016, 3:08 AM

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Got it even lower.

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Anyway, yeah I think having the LFW tag be able to be upfront would be best.

earnest jasper Oct 13, 2016, 3:16 AM

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ok guys

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none of us can enforce or decide on this

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I'm sure the pin won't kill anyone until someone can decide how they want it

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oh wait, this ended 10 minutes ago

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my bad 😄

kindred mason Oct 13, 2016, 3:17 AM

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You suck

earnest jasper Oct 13, 2016, 3:18 AM

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^

kindred mason Oct 13, 2016, 3:18 AM

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😃

vernal wolf Oct 13, 2016, 7:06 AM

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WAKE UP SHEEPLE

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Also, aye, Slack was common for people to post availability as well

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So, should be fine

earnest jasper Oct 14, 2016, 11:38 PM

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[PAID] [CONTRACT] [REMOTE] Intermediate level UE Vive blueprint developer required to join our team and become the muscle putting together a Vive demo.

Skills required are a mix of geometry import, collision setup, level placement, audio cue placement, sequencing and basic character interactivity. Prefer availability of 20-30 hours a week or more for an initial period of 1 month.

You don't need to be a confident Vive developer, just have a Vive for testing during development. Potential for a fulltime role developing the full title if all goes well. Rate negotiable, we don't have a price in mind, so let us know what you're worth.

https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?125894-Intermediate-UE-blueprint-Vive-developer&p=609550#post609550

Intermediate level UE Vive blueprint developer required to join our team and become the muscle putting together a Vive demo.

Skills required are a mix of geometry import, collision setup, level placement, audio cue placement, sequencing and basic character interactivity. Prefer availability of 20-30 hours a week or more for an initial period of 1 month.

You don't need to be a confident Vive developer, just have a Vive for testing during development. Potential for a fulltime role

plucky hatch Oct 14, 2016, 11:38 PM

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low pond Oct 15, 2016, 1:18 AM

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@earnest jasper That's a damn tasty offer

digital gate Oct 15, 2016, 1:23 AM

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Grrrrrrrrrrr I msg'd 1st (jk)

low pond Oct 15, 2016, 1:31 AM

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I wouldn't be able to do it, even if I wanted to, all I can do is say antidamage gets a thumbs up from me, all round nice dude 👍

earnest jasper Oct 15, 2016, 3:42 AM

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D'aww thanks. I'm just doing the candidate location though

storm kernel Oct 15, 2016, 12:23 PM

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Im looking for someone interested in modifying the BP editor, is there anyone around with that capacity?

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paid work provided your price isnt too extravagant

earnest jasper Oct 15, 2016, 9:12 PM

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what on earth are you doing to it frankenstein

pulsar quest Oct 17, 2016, 12:30 AM

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@earnest jasper haha

storm kernel Oct 17, 2016, 7:18 AM

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trying to bring it back from the dead? 😛

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https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?126089-Unreal-Editor-Tools-Programmer

Hi Everyone,

I'm in need of someone with the ability to make modifications to Unreal Editor via Plugins. Instead of waiting hoping for Epic to implement the features I would like to see I'm putting myself out there to fund these updates and will be open to some discussion on the topic with the right parties. There is a high likelihood of the Plugin being released on the market when it gets completed and am open to offering a reasonable royalty bonus if that happens, to reiterate though the

earnest jasper Oct 17, 2016, 7:29 AM

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haha

storm kernel Oct 17, 2016, 7:34 AM

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I make a fair bit more from farming than I ever did programming 😃

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I should say though, Im not trying to resurrect Uscript, thatd be bad all those hordes of zombie programmers would take over the world

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I should mention that its blood money for the vegans lol

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really though I just need things done and Im not entirely capable of doing it myself, not without wasting alot of time

worn furnace Oct 17, 2016, 6:15 PM

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hello

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first off, thank you very much for opening up those opportunities

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@storm kernel @earnest jasper I'm basically an entry-level UE4 developer/designer but, I'm very fortunate, or not, to have some developer confidence. I would bring a decade of full SDLC, web programming, and enterprise development experience to your projects. Though correlated, I'm available full-time to ramp up for either or for both projects per your requirements. Per the descriptions with any form of commensurate rate, I believe I can focus on getting you value for your respective projects. I hope to learn more about each.

I also have a room-scale Vive for development and testing.

earnest jasper Oct 17, 2016, 7:36 PM

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@worn furnace we've pretty much found our guy I think but I'll keep your name on hand 😃

worn furnace Oct 17, 2016, 8:09 PM

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=]

fading yoke Oct 18, 2016, 5:06 AM

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Here's a question -- when I was watching the Rocket League GDC lecture, I remember the guy saying that his company, Psyonix, had been a game studio that focused primarily on doing contract work with the Unreal Engine over the years. That sounds like a nice job that I'd love to have so that I can learn the ropes and get better with the engine so that I can eventually turn around and try to produce my own product using that professional experience... but I have no idea where to look for such a job in the first place! The guy in the GDC lecture even said that his company was very unknown publicly because they never really had any big, highly publicized releases over the years. So where can I find openings to apply to for this sort of studio?

storm kernel Oct 18, 2016, 7:19 AM

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Great question, this is a good place to perhaps put the feelers out to try to find outsourcing companies like that and there are quite a few around. There are probably some who make marketplace content so you could maybe check some of the ones that sound more like teams of people vs individuals but even then its possible individual contractors will need to bring extra people in for the length of a larger contract. Sorry I cant be of more help putting you onto companies directly 😃 Honestly though Ive been told that its getting to the point where game devs might need agents lol

median phoenix Oct 18, 2016, 7:42 AM

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Psyonix company I miss :/ Nosgoth I loved

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I am currently hiring someone to teach me blueprints , anyone with the time and patience please contact me . I am a fast learner but I have specifics I would like to learn and polish on. Panda Studios taught me basics of basics so I understand some form. We can make a agreement on the pay scale .

storm kernel Oct 18, 2016, 7:47 AM

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what timezone are you in @median phoenix ?

median phoenix Oct 18, 2016, 7:48 AM

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EST , it is 3:48 am right now

storm kernel Oct 18, 2016, 7:51 AM

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East Coast US then Im guessing

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that might be alittle tricky for me depending on what hours are good for you

median phoenix Oct 18, 2016, 7:53 AM

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my body only allows me to sleep 2 hours a day, I use the rest of the time to learn , chill with wife, and take care of my son. He's 2months right now so just feeds and eats. I can study with you from 8:30am est to 3:00pm est, then again from 6:00pm est to 6am est

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I've been going over tutorials and I have a lazy bone or habit , unless I have someone teaching me that can talk to me etc. I tend to have no one interested in game dev talking to me or gaming with me so I decided to just pay a teacher .

storm kernel Oct 18, 2016, 7:58 AM

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yeah thats understandable, it can be a good kick in the butt lol Im guessing you know generally what you'd like to learn just not how to get there

median phoenix Oct 18, 2016, 7:58 AM

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Yes

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I don't enjoy bothering people XD so I tend to stay away from bothering Allar and Celeste. haha I know they are busy and felt like my best option is to find a unbusy teacher or teachers . I may just fill up my schedule day .

lilac walrus Oct 18, 2016, 9:40 AM

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Those kinds of studios are everywhere, and tend to advertise in the same channels as other studios. You may also find them occassionally advertising in the jobs section on the forums, though this is rarer.

fading yoke Oct 18, 2016, 10:29 AM

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@lilac walrus "and tend to advertise in the same channels as other studios" -- what does that mean?

lilac walrus Oct 18, 2016, 10:30 AM

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it means you'll find job postings for those smaller outsourcing studios mixed in with job postings for other game studios

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they advertise their roles in all the same places

fading yoke Oct 18, 2016, 10:32 AM

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@lilac walrus so just to clarify because i am of course mentally retarded, in order to find those similar postings i should just go on monster.com or whatever and look for "unreal"? or is there some particular place where unreal-related jobs are advertised (other than this channel)?

lilac walrus Oct 18, 2016, 10:32 AM

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try OrcaHQ

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that's an aggregator that trawls the Internet for games related job postings - it's very good

fading yoke Oct 18, 2016, 10:34 AM

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nice site, thanks

fading yoke Oct 18, 2016, 10:57 AM

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seeing those salaries on that website leaves me in awe

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i wish i were good enough at this stuff to get one of those jobs

storm kernel Oct 18, 2016, 5:06 PM

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lets hope someone wants to pay you and you dont have to work for free

inner hazel Oct 18, 2016, 5:49 PM

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Woah @lilac walrus OrcaHQ is amazing!!! Thank you for sharing this

lilac walrus Oct 18, 2016, 5:49 PM

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you are welcome

silent needle Oct 18, 2016, 10:28 PM

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Hi all. Just sharing a job from the forum here: https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?126266-3D-Designer-Boeing-Research-amp-Technology&p=611328#post611328

Hi folks. Interested in building the future of aviation? Come join a mixed reality team within The Boeing Company, based in Australia.

Description:
Boeing Defence Australia is currently looking for a 3D Designer – Unreal Engine located in our Brisbane office.

The successful applicant will work within a small team of mixed reality specialists who are tasked with developing innovative enabling technologies for application within new and existing Boeing products and programs. The researcher

earnest jasper Oct 18, 2016, 10:39 PM

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damn that's tempting.

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would I get my own plane to fly to work in

worn furnace Oct 18, 2016, 11:00 PM

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You could deploy a mini antidamage, you know the robots with that iPad monitor

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Personal defense units, all bollard like

earnest jasper Oct 18, 2016, 11:06 PM

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I would enjoy that

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we have one in the LA office, never seen anyone use it

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wait

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no that's not where I saw it

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I saw it at github

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they have them

queen wing Oct 18, 2016, 11:59 PM

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[PAID] [CONTRACT] [REMOTE] Looking for Unreal water shader specialist for VR project, PM me portfolio asap 😉

kindred mason Oct 19, 2016, 12:18 AM

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@queen wing redo your tags with **

silent needle Oct 19, 2016, 3:35 AM

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@earnest jasper Haha nope sorry mate. We do have a simulator we all take turns flying though 😃

earnest jasper Oct 19, 2016, 3:39 AM

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that sounds awesome

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the only problem is me and simulators become not very useful for training quickly, with all the barrel rolls and split-S turns that take places

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"I want to see what that house looks like up close... oops"

silent needle Oct 19, 2016, 3:43 AM

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👏

earnest jasper Oct 19, 2016, 10:25 AM

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[PAID] [LFW] Need a solid demo video with high production values for your marketplace asset? I know what your market needs to see and can help you demonstrate your product to them concisely and quickly in a polished tech demo format. $500US for a 1 minute 30 second video set to music of your choosing. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LCrUsY4Bfg

YouTube

Justin Cook

Advanced Glass Shader for Unreal Engine

▶ Play video

plucky hatch Oct 19, 2016, 10:25 AM

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void pagoda Oct 19, 2016, 10:26 AM

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#hustle

earnest jasper Oct 19, 2016, 10:26 AM

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#allday

void pagoda Oct 19, 2016, 10:27 AM

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That glass shader it FTW btw

earnest jasper Oct 19, 2016, 10:27 AM

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hehe thanks

void pagoda Oct 19, 2016, 10:27 AM

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I might have to grab one

earnest jasper Oct 19, 2016, 10:27 AM

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hold on, I'll get you a copy

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just gotta upload it

void pagoda Oct 19, 2016, 10:27 AM

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I can make everything out of green uranium glass

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😮

earnest jasper Oct 19, 2016, 10:28 AM

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uranium glass is the best

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I'd like to get some actual uranium glass and a blacklight one day

void pagoda Oct 19, 2016, 10:30 AM

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http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1311.R1.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xuranium.TRS0&_nkw=uranium+glass&_sacat=0

eBay

Find great deals on eBay for uranium glass vaseline glass. Shop with confidence.

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get some

earnest jasper Oct 19, 2016, 10:31 AM

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wouldn't ship well to NZ

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but god it's beautiful

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I need to unpin one of my ads

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@low pond do my bidding, djinn. I require my vive developer ad removed from this realm.

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@low pond thank you 😄

low pond Oct 19, 2016, 12:59 PM

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You will is my command

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It is done, my child

steady depot Oct 19, 2016, 3:27 PM

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@low pond I also require you to do my bidding and unpin my post

low pond Oct 19, 2016, 3:28 PM

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It is done, my child

fathom sinew Oct 19, 2016, 3:40 PM

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I read this in the Elohim Voice from The Talos Principle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngy0u-I2iF8

YouTube

main_gi

The Talos Principle: All Elohim Dialogue Voice Lines

▶ Play video

buoyant latch Oct 19, 2016, 3:44 PM

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haha

lethal slate Oct 19, 2016, 6:37 PM

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Hi guys. Give me please some feedback about my CV and my exp. https://www.dropbox.com/s/wt6bb5juj35wolq/Anton Malytskyi - cv.doc?dl=0

Dropbox

Anton Malytskyi - cv.doc

Shared with Dropbox

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Myabe somebody wants to hire me )

grim rampart Oct 19, 2016, 6:48 PM

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[PAID] [CONTRACT] Need programmers familiar with Unreal 4.12 Specifically networking physics. Contract is up through the end of January.

plucky hatch Oct 19, 2016, 6:48 PM

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earnest jasper Oct 19, 2016, 9:09 PM

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thank you @low pond . for my other two wishes I'd like infinite revenge and infinite satisfation.

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wait that can be one wish

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ok infinite revenge/satisfaction and infinite hot dogs of acceptable quality, with buns and all of the trimmings as needed

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sometimes the trimmings will include infinite money. I know how to scheme genie wishes.

low pond Oct 20, 2016, 3:26 AM

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[PAID] Looking for French, Italian, Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Russian speakers to do a translation of just under 500 words. I've been burned enough times by Google Translate. Could go with an agency, but I'd rather support you beautiful people ❤ - NOTE: THIS MAY BE OBVIOUS BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOW ALL THE LANGUAGES.

plucky hatch Oct 20, 2016, 3:26 AM

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earnest jasper Oct 20, 2016, 3:46 AM

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what if I don't know any, can I still help?

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I can verify that you're not being ripped off and not just being given english back

low pond Oct 20, 2016, 3:49 AM

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Dude, I could use all the help I can get 😛

earnest jasper Oct 20, 2016, 3:50 AM

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ok I won't charge much

plucky hatch Oct 20, 2016, 3:51 AM

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If you send me the text I might be able to get a spanish speaker I'm friends with to translate it

earnest jasper Oct 20, 2016, 3:51 AM

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that was english

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hot damn I'm good

void pagoda Oct 20, 2016, 5:24 AM

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hablo espanol

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un poquito xD

mental drum Oct 20, 2016, 5:56 AM

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@low pond YO HABLO ESPAÑOL!

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challenge accepted

plucky hatch Oct 20, 2016, 10:15 AM

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@low pond
Привет, I can translate into Russian 😃

storm kernel Oct 20, 2016, 2:59 PM

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I can translate into bad english and pig latin

obsidian yarrow Oct 20, 2016, 3:41 PM

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French guy here

grim rampart Oct 20, 2016, 5:48 PM

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[PAID] [CONTRACT] Need a gameplay programmer to rapid prototype a couple demos, combat engines, ideas. Experience can range from student to veteran.

plucky hatch Oct 20, 2016, 5:48 PM

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plucky hatch Oct 21, 2016, 10:39 AM

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[PAID] [CONTRACT] Hi everyone, we're looking to hire (a) full-time UE4 programmer(s) in the Hague (The Netherlands). Check out the job posting here: http://jobs.gamasutra.com/job/game-programmer-unreal-engine-blueprint-c-the-hague-31054

Game Programmer (Unreal Engine, Blueprint, C++) in The Hague, Netherlands | Gamasutra Jobs
Game Programmer (Unreal Engine, Blueprint, C++)

earnest jasper Oct 21, 2016, 10:47 AM

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put double-asterisks around your square braces to get it auto-pinned by the bot @plucky hatch

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there you go 😄

plucky hatch Oct 21, 2016, 10:48 AM

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Thanks, I noticed 😃

trim hound Oct 21, 2016, 3:51 PM

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**[PAID]**3D Artist / Generalist looking for paid 3D work.Wide variety of experiance,link to my website + email - http://www.conceptcrash.com/

ConceptCrash is the home of 3D modeller/environment artist Colin Kaszynski.

lethal slate Oct 21, 2016, 7:34 PM

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@Joost#9775 Intermediate level of English is enough to be part of your studio?

earnest jasper Oct 21, 2016, 11:12 PM

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@trim hound put double-asterisks around your square braces and the bot will pin your note

digital gate Oct 24, 2016, 6:35 PM

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Hey can I get my thing unpinned? @low pond

low pond Oct 24, 2016, 6:35 PM

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It is done, my child

earnest jasper Oct 24, 2016, 9:29 PM

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@St. Taiku 🎮#7484 can you take down my cuda job vacancy too please? we found someone

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a god who walks amongst men

glad imp Oct 24, 2016, 9:30 PM

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^

low pond Oct 24, 2016, 9:36 PM

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WHICH ONE IS THE CUDA ONE @earnest jasper

earnest jasper Oct 24, 2016, 9:36 PM

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the one that talks about CUDA

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the bottom one I guess

low pond Oct 24, 2016, 9:41 PM

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It is done, my child

earnest jasper Oct 24, 2016, 9:44 PM

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thank you father

low pond Oct 24, 2016, 9:47 PM

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No problem, son

rigid knoll Oct 25, 2016, 7:50 AM

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can we post general 3D artist jobs here?

earnest jasper Oct 25, 2016, 8:30 AM

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no only 2d and 2.5d

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jk

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go for it

rigid knoll Oct 25, 2016, 2:45 PM

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haha neat. i was worried it would be strictly unreal engine jobs

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hello fellows, my team is hiring CG Supervisors for our Beijing team. please apply if that sounds like your thing! https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/were-hiring-cg-supervisors-beijing-egg-story

lavish cove Oct 25, 2016, 4:21 PM

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Looking for 3D modelers. Need to make mecha, rig and animate them. For idea about mecha design, check this link -

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https://www.google.co.in/search?q=armored+core+4+mech+schematics&safe=off&client=firefox-b-ab&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjzzYaorvbPAhXLQo8KHUwZAhsQ_AUICCgB&biw=1600&bih=809

pulsar quest Oct 25, 2016, 5:00 PM

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@lavish cove If you have a budget then i would state it but if you are wanting a rev share deal I suggest heading to game dev classified on reddit and doing a formal and lengthy post, it'll help a lot

lavish cove Oct 25, 2016, 6:40 PM

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@pulsar quest there is no set budget actually

unreal gust Oct 26, 2016, 12:48 PM

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[PAID] [CONTRACT] More openings at Force Field VR in Amsterdam, PM me for additional info!

Lead Programmer
Lead Artist
Office Manager
Internships
QA Tester
Senior QA Tester
Game Producer
Senior Game Producer
UI Artist
Storyboard Graphic Artist
Senior Environment Artist
VFX/CG Generalist
Senior Game Designer
Lead Game Designer
(Senior) Game Programmer
Technical/FX Artist
3D Artist
Senior 3D Artist```

plucky hatch Oct 26, 2016, 12:48 PM

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safe stump Oct 26, 2016, 4:00 PM

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@unreal gust should my application letter be in English or in dutch?

unreal gust Oct 26, 2016, 4:04 PM

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Either is fine

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Main spoken language is English, but most of the people in charge of reviewing are dutch

safe stump Oct 26, 2016, 4:05 PM

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ok thx

earnest jasper Oct 26, 2016, 9:46 PM

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is the nickname "Dutch" off limits for use when everyone is actually properly Dutch?

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so like would Arnie from Predator get weird looks?

unreal gust Oct 27, 2016, 9:08 AM

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Haven't heard anyone use that here haha

earnest jasper Oct 27, 2016, 10:31 AM

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so it's still available? 😄

stone cedar Oct 27, 2016, 8:40 PM

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it has to be 😄

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but imagine in your shoes some1 working in US comanpy and everyone call him Murican

earnest jasper Oct 27, 2016, 9:01 PM

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sort of like American McGee? I see your point 😉

hazy jay Oct 28, 2016, 9:40 PM

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@solid bridge I messaged you

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Any game designers or programmers here who are good with blueprints and own a Vive available for a freelance job?

hushed ice Oct 28, 2016, 9:41 PM

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👀

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🖐🏼

digital gate Oct 28, 2016, 9:41 PM

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I might be able to buy a Vive

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But I don't own one already

hushed ice Oct 28, 2016, 9:42 PM

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been doing vr with BPs for quite a long time now

wheat hinge Oct 28, 2016, 9:43 PM

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@hushed ice Is your last name Orth?

hushed ice Oct 28, 2016, 9:44 PM

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not really

digital gate Oct 28, 2016, 9:44 PM

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not really

hushed ice Oct 28, 2016, 9:44 PM

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do I get a free oculus if it is

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👀

wheat hinge Oct 28, 2016, 9:44 PM

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lol

hushed ice Oct 28, 2016, 9:44 PM

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nah just kidding, ain't

shut tree Oct 30, 2016, 10:00 AM

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@unreal gust that landfall trailer is recorded from HMD?

long kiln Oct 31, 2016, 4:37 PM

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[PAID] Hey folks, I have a great contract opportunity I wanted to post here. I'm looking for two mid to senior level UE4 engineers in the Seattle area to work on a 6 to 7 month contract that starts almost immediately. Please PM me if you're interested.

crisp crystal Oct 31, 2016, 9:32 PM

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[PAID] Developing a VR application for real estate in UE4. Will soon be hiring for full-time positions in New York. Experience required in some of the following areas: architecture visualization, VR user interface design with the HTC Vive, animation, graphic design, C++. Send me a message if interested.

earnest jasper Oct 31, 2016, 9:37 PM

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put double asterisks around the square brackets @crisp crystal

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it'll get pinned

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well, it will when the bot works again 😄

crisp crystal Oct 31, 2016, 11:36 PM

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@earnest jasper - thanks - updated

earnest jasper Oct 31, 2016, 11:38 PM

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👍

worn furnace Nov 1, 2016, 3:06 AM

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hey

wintry island Nov 2, 2016, 10:41 AM

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Need help on a Unreal Tournament Gamemode. 60% done, can't wrap my head around some things. Naabfriendly BP co-coder wanted!!

serene halo Nov 2, 2016, 4:37 PM

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not from this company, but thought some people here might be interested. Creators of hyper light drifter looking for UE4 engineer: http://www.heart-machine.com/jobs/

cunning rain Nov 2, 2016, 5:58 PM

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[Paid][Royalty] Infuse Studio is looking for someone to port its exhisting and possibly future packs to Unity. Royatly will be based on Unity asset sales, Percentage negotiable. PM for more details.

lilac walrus Nov 2, 2016, 5:58 PM

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...to Unity?

cunning rain Nov 2, 2016, 5:59 PM

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Yes

kindred mason Nov 2, 2016, 6:02 PM

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Um, why is it in the Unreal Engine discord chat then?

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I think @lilac walrus was alluding to.

cunning rain Nov 2, 2016, 6:03 PM

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Because our content is in unreal now so the contractor would have to have knowledge of unreal

kindred mason Nov 2, 2016, 6:03 PM

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Okay

lilac walrus Nov 2, 2016, 6:04 PM

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it makes sense, I just though it a little odd, hehe

kindred mason Nov 2, 2016, 6:04 PM

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I agree

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But

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Is it not just art assets?

digital gate Nov 2, 2016, 6:05 PM

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Seems the hardest part might be moving the mats over.

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Oh, there's some small BP functionality, I think.

kindred mason Nov 2, 2016, 6:05 PM

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Is there?

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No idea, never bought their stuff

digital gate Nov 2, 2016, 6:05 PM

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Important\Additional Notes: ... Doors open by pressing the "e" key.

kindred mason Nov 2, 2016, 6:05 PM

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Heh

cunning rain Nov 2, 2016, 6:05 PM

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Yep. We have to much other stuff going on to try and do the conversion ourselves.

kindred mason Nov 2, 2016, 6:06 PM

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@cunning rain are you sure you guys can't just take 5 mins to see if you can do it?

cunning rain Nov 2, 2016, 6:06 PM

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Already have.

kindred mason Nov 2, 2016, 6:06 PM

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I mean, I've had no choice to do Unity work this month, and it's not terribly hard

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The scripting would be really easy

digital gate Nov 2, 2016, 6:06 PM

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If they don't know Unity it'll feel like they're running into a brick wall.

kindred mason Nov 2, 2016, 6:06 PM

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Yeah but still

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So yeah

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PBR assets

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The only hard part would be to convert from Metal Rough

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To Spec/metal / smooth

cedar canyon Nov 2, 2016, 6:16 PM

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unity supports metal/rough afaik

kindred mason Nov 2, 2016, 6:18 PM

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Oh since when?

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Pretty sure when I am in Substance it has a different workflow for Unity

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And it's Spec/Metal and smooth

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But, maybe they do

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Only one way to find out

pastel estuary Nov 3, 2016, 9:37 AM

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Id port the team over to ue4, way less hassle XD

junior grail Nov 3, 2016, 12:05 PM

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I did that 😄

rustic steeple Nov 3, 2016, 6:02 PM

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Want to join us making games at one of the coolest game studios on the planet (for real!)? We are growing quickly as we create some exciting games and looking for talented artists, programmers and designers to become part of the WhiteMoon dream. See our careers page for more info. Send resumes to fun@whitemoondreams.com
http://www.whitemoondreams.com/careers

whitemoondreams

lilac walrus Nov 3, 2016, 6:26 PM

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oh neat, Warmachine

simple meteor Nov 4, 2016, 12:06 PM

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We're looking for a JavaScript/frontend developer to help us with UI stuff on Fractured Space. If you're interested contact me for further details

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Paid in-house

simple meteor Nov 4, 2016, 1:57 PM

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http://www.edgecasegames.net/portfolio-item/senior-front-end-developer/

Edge Case Games

admin

Senior Front End developer

SENIOR FRONT END DEVELOPER If you fancy working with a vibrant team on an exciting PC title built in Unreal from the heart of Guildford this role is for you. The team is growing as the game becomes increasingly popular and we need experienced talent to help us keep improving our product. Must Have 4+ …

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got the job spec up for that

pastel estuary Nov 4, 2016, 2:15 PM

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a buddy of mine is looking for a variety unity devs for something unknown, he pays well (and is thrustworthy)
so those who dont feel dirty using unity, send me a pm and ill hook you up with him 😃

lilac walrus Nov 4, 2016, 2:45 PM

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https://giphy.com/gifs/disgusted-disgust-OuPqBhUGz0k12

sharp shuttle Nov 4, 2016, 5:27 PM

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@pastel estuary that temptation

plucky hatch Nov 4, 2016, 8:12 PM

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If there is any coder/blueprinter in here, who needs an art/asset guy to work together on a game, just message me.

buoyant latch Nov 4, 2016, 8:52 PM

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I'm dont have a job offer @plucky hatch but I'd love to see your portfolio

plucky hatch Nov 4, 2016, 9:15 PM

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ok, sure, here it is: Mapping & 3D Portfolio/Examples:
http://vollkrasser.deviantart.com/gallery/54169567/mapping

Video "Valley of the Elves":
https://youtu.be/SXsfhxFaHYk

More details/capabilities of me:
https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?91235-level-designer-environments-for-you-re-game!

My self-made speedtree-nursery (still growing):
https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?106355-Project-quot-tree-nursery-quot

Contact (Greenwich time +1 hour) via Skype ID: volluskrassos then my nickname there is Joe Cool

mapping by Vollkrasser on DeviantArt

YouTube

Joe Cool

Valley of the Elves

▶ Play video

Hi,

I do mapping / level-design as hobby for over 10 years with Unreal.
Next to most of the stuff in UEd for level design (static mesh pipeline, landscape tools, Matinee Sequences, Cascade effects, some blueprint, materials/shaders and so on), I also know 3d modeling programs, 2d Photoshop and other tools like speedtree.

Also I got a large content collection over the years (3d models, PBR materials, textures, sounds...), some marketplace packs, my own "winded" speedtree collection with

Here is my tree nursery.

86861

The pupils have LoDs, wind and learnt their collision. They all are also good performing poly-wise.
Each one has modular materials to wear, so you can create each season out of each tree and also modify the materials to whatever you like.

86862

The classes that are already full of pupils are the realistic ones: needle-trees, broadleafes, bushes, flowers, grasses, palms, cactuses, water-plants:

pastel estuary Nov 4, 2016, 10:25 PM

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oh man, either ask a friend with a better computer or render out frame for frame at a high rest and render out that video again, that blurry stuff is hurting you more than it'll doyou good.

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Also, id ask someone with cinematographic experience on how to properly present a town like that

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and to quote one of the great environment artists..
"One could say that lighting uses simpler colors and has more limitations. There are fewer colors and less subtle changes to use because of the lack of dark colors. Lighting is constrained to a relatively small set of colors that can be used.
What makes this even more difficult is that half of those available colors almost never work out well in most themes and subtle changes in hue or saturation are barely noticeable. Colors like purple or pink are almost impossible to use in most themes and styles because they simply do not fit in nor look natural. Using them will most likely result in some weird and unrealistic disco style rather than anything else."

plucky hatch Nov 4, 2016, 10:30 PM

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i know my painting background. do you?

pastel estuary Nov 4, 2016, 10:30 PM

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hi, i got 15 years of game dev experience

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also to quote the same guy again:
" Never use painter logic and rely on mixing brighter lights with darker lights to create changes in your environment. Dark colors do not exist! One can only see a difference when a light's color or saturation radically changes so subtle changes won't be noticeable. Here's why: Light is always a gradient. It always creates a lighter area and a darker area. Lighting simply starts somewhere and then fades out as it travels further away from its source. If one attempts to create contrast by using darker and brighter lights of the same color then the result wouldn't show a contrast at all but would look weird because some lights would appear too weak to be possible."

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now, if you cant take critisism, just tell us so we know to ignore you 😃

plucky hatch Nov 4, 2016, 10:31 PM

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i dont quote painters, i do painting, see my painting portfolio on deviant art.

pastel estuary Nov 4, 2016, 10:32 PM

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thats not the point

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im giving you insight on how to improve

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dont have to be all offended

plucky hatch Nov 4, 2016, 10:33 PM

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yeah, like my hardware and other technical stuff that i miss. I am an artist, you are not.

pastel estuary Nov 4, 2016, 10:33 PM

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lol this guy

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thats a really reaaaally good way to sell yourself

plucky hatch Nov 4, 2016, 10:34 PM

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why dont you go sell yourself and let me be

pastel estuary Nov 4, 2016, 10:34 PM

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i highly doubt people would want to work with someone who cant take even the slightest of comments he dont like

plucky hatch Nov 4, 2016, 10:35 PM

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have youre opinion. and keep it.

pastel estuary Nov 4, 2016, 10:35 PM

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*your

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 10:35 PM

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he's not an artist?

pastel estuary Nov 4, 2016, 10:36 PM

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guess I am not, someone on the internet just said so

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 10:36 PM

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Luos is quite right, that video looks like some early 2000s res footage

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it doesn't sound like this guy is open to constructive criticism though, so let's let him be

pastel estuary Nov 4, 2016, 10:37 PM

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yea, better watch out or we all end up not being artists

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 10:37 PM

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real artists are broke and don't get paid

pastel estuary Nov 4, 2016, 10:37 PM

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hehe

remote ruin Nov 4, 2016, 10:44 PM

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It looks cool to me...

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@plucky hatch I like what I see. Doesn't look early 2000s to me though. Hehe

cunning rain Nov 4, 2016, 10:46 PM

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I think the buildings look a bit dated.

remote ruin Nov 4, 2016, 10:46 PM

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Maybe its the idea

pastel estuary Nov 4, 2016, 10:47 PM

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if that was true, current gen low poly/8/16 bit games would look outdated as well

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but most look better than ever

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 10:48 PM

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oh, I was talking about the video

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it's really low quality

remote ruin Nov 4, 2016, 10:48 PM

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Now that's passing a message... Hehe

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 10:48 PM

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it's 720p but it looks more like standard definition TV - antialiased to heck and low res behind that

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people need to start doing more 4k video with decent settings, even if that means paying someone to do it for you on a better rig

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it'll just sell so much better

remote ruin Nov 4, 2016, 10:50 PM

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You might be right but then again its the art that matters the most here...

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 10:50 PM

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there's a strong technical component to game art

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I wouldn't call any of the above art if it wasn't in a game context

remote ruin Nov 4, 2016, 10:50 PM

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True

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 10:50 PM

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it's uninspired asset shit

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we need uninspired asset shit for games

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but it's sure not art in itself

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I think the best part of it is the music tbh

pastel estuary Nov 4, 2016, 10:51 PM

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dont have to call it shit though, just keep it at "mediocre"

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 10:51 PM

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it's not mediocre

remote ruin Nov 4, 2016, 10:51 PM

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Okay that's just some hate shit to me

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 10:51 PM

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the trees are quite good

pastel estuary Nov 4, 2016, 10:51 PM

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speedtree :p

remote ruin Nov 4, 2016, 10:51 PM

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let's see what you have

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 10:51 PM

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probably, which means he can't sell it

remote ruin Nov 4, 2016, 10:51 PM

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maybe then I will agree 😃

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 10:52 PM

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well, this is me: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/advanced-cel-shader-pack

Apply a finely tuned cel-shaded style to your game with over 40 controls and 10 shaders

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I also make assets for games

pastel estuary Nov 4, 2016, 10:52 PM

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thats like asking an art critic why he is a critic for not being able to paint the mona lisa

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 10:52 PM

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my assets aren't art, but the end goal is to help a game have more options to express the developers artistic flair

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but I'd never call my work art

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let's also remember that the word art originally meant finely honed technique

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a master craftsman is an artist

vernal wolf Nov 4, 2016, 10:53 PM

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God damn it, this is why we can't have nice things yall

karmic kayak Nov 4, 2016, 10:54 PM

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the #lounge is strong in here.

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😄

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 10:54 PM

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#lounge is just a representation of the collective

remote ruin Nov 4, 2016, 10:54 PM

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@earnest jasper it looks cool your work but i really don't like it

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 10:55 PM

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that's fine, if you have any idea why you don't like it i'm the sort of person who takes that on board

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vollgaser up above is defending some crappy speedtrees as beyond reproach

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which is a different position entirely

remote ruin Nov 4, 2016, 10:55 PM

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Not hating on your work but to be honest not every style applies to everyone

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 10:55 PM

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and in doing this he's demeaned luos as "not being an artist"

vernal wolf Nov 4, 2016, 10:55 PM

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This isn't a critique channel, no need to critique unless asked

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 10:56 PM

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yeah good point

vernal wolf Nov 4, 2016, 10:56 PM

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See someone you don't want to hire? Move on

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 10:56 PM

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I think not hiring him is probably the end result here, yes

pastel estuary Nov 4, 2016, 10:56 PM

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i was just giving some tips to better sell himself, which is something i'd liek to hear when i apply for a job

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 10:56 PM

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and he reacted badly

cunning rain Nov 4, 2016, 10:56 PM

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Maybe PM them next time Lous

vernal wolf Nov 4, 2016, 10:56 PM

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I get the good intentions, I do

pastel estuary Nov 4, 2016, 10:57 PM

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read the fricking top part

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"resume tips"

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 10:57 PM

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I'm glad Luos asked, it's good to know that someone is not able to take direction

remote ruin Nov 4, 2016, 10:57 PM

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Yeah I guess he did, it took him awhile to create i guess too.

ionic mica Nov 4, 2016, 10:57 PM

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looks like I tuned in at the right time

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 10:57 PM

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the journey of self growth never ends

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there will always be critcism

vernal wolf Nov 4, 2016, 10:57 PM

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'looking for'

pastel estuary Nov 4, 2016, 10:57 PM

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"Connect with people who are hiring or looking for work, share interview & resume tips. "

remote ruin Nov 4, 2016, 10:58 PM

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Yeah and people will always defend what they love...

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 10:58 PM

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to be honest this is way less about unwanted critiquing and way more about how the reaction was

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it's not out of line for people to examine him closer after that

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but maybe he's just having a bad day

remote ruin Nov 4, 2016, 10:59 PM

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anyway as a game dev i think you are the worst judge of your work.. So let others giving some advice

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 10:59 PM

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I think that's a completely false concept

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it's all subjective

remote ruin Nov 4, 2016, 10:59 PM

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Who knows

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Maybe

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 10:59 PM

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well, people who have worked in a creative industry for a long time tend to know this

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experience isn't nothing

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that's why we listen to others

remote ruin Nov 4, 2016, 11:00 PM

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but except you alone want to play your games you need to listen to others a bit more and be less defensive.

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 11:00 PM

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yes, he needs to be way less defensive

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we're in agreement

pastel estuary Nov 4, 2016, 11:00 PM

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well, at least this time I am not punched in the face and got a massive consussion out of it XD

remote ruin Nov 4, 2016, 11:00 PM

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Yeah

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 11:00 PM

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haha

remote ruin Nov 4, 2016, 11:00 PM

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Hehe

pastel estuary Nov 4, 2016, 11:01 PM

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lets end the semi-offtopics and move to lounge or so

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😃

remote ruin Nov 4, 2016, 11:01 PM

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Yeah

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 11:01 PM

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that will definitely kill it 😉

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I need to brush my teeth and go buy things, bbl!

kindred mason Nov 4, 2016, 11:18 PM

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Another overreaction story

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Should we really have to walk on eggshells around here though?

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As for critiques, they are always subject to them if you post them. That is one of the main purposes of this channel from what I can read of the topic description. Sharings tips on getting a job, the harsher the critique, the better the feedback, the more chance the person will have to improve their work.

earnest jasper Nov 4, 2016, 11:23 PM

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critique doesn't need to be harsh

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there will always be people who react badly to it though, regardless of tone used

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those people want to think about why they're taking part in a community and what they're not getting out of it by being that way

craggy snow Nov 4, 2016, 11:34 PM

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tbh

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I just watched the video

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I don't see issues with the cinematics if it's just to showcase the level design

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it does that

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there were tons of other things that just were totally off though

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ionic mica Nov 4, 2016, 11:43 PM

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well, let's be real

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nothing of his stuff is really good

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watched the video and went over the devianart stuff

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the color palettes are off most of the time

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shaders are weak

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composition is not compelling at all

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video quality was absurdly bad

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but that isn't the point 😄

pastel estuary Nov 4, 2016, 11:44 PM

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I did like his tree drawings

ionic mica Nov 4, 2016, 11:45 PM

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you have to be able to take criticism

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I liked one of the devianart pictures

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that looked like a van gogh, but that is more on the lucky side when the rest isn't nearly as good

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but my point is, you should always ask for opinions on your work and encourage people to give honest feedback about it

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if they don't like it, they should tell you and not try to protect your feelings

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thats the easiest way to improve

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that guy probably never asked for honest feedback in his life

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judging by his reaction

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I meant this one btw

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http://vollkrasser.deviantart.com/art/ArtVis-not-ArchVis-572123450?q=Vollkrasser%2F54169567&qo=57

ArtVis not ArchVis

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but I am not even sure if that is a real scene

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or just a thing where he dropped an unreal chair in it

compact ivy Nov 5, 2016, 12:10 AM

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It definitely looks out of place if it is his scene

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Tbh. The unreal chair ruins it

buoyant latch Nov 5, 2016, 2:35 AM

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Wow. Didn't mean to start a big storm by asking to see his portfolio.

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Good to be able to take criticism, but also good to not troll people who don't take criticism well. My thoughts.

kindred mason Nov 5, 2016, 2:45 AM

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Define "trolling" @buoyant latch

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Actually, it doesn't matter, since everyone sees "trolling" different

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I don't really see anyone trolling here, there were some snarky remarks, but that was after his overreaction to the critiques

buoyant latch Nov 5, 2016, 2:48 AM

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Saying things you know are likely to get a rise out of someone else maybe?

kindred mason Nov 5, 2016, 2:48 AM

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Ehhh

buoyant latch Nov 5, 2016, 2:48 AM

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I have a mild def of trolling

kindred mason Nov 5, 2016, 2:48 AM

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See, that's just perception though

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Which is subjective

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The person typing may have a completely different idea/mindset than how others are perceiving it

buoyant latch Nov 5, 2016, 2:49 AM

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Yea he overreacted and was kinda a jerk to Luous, but people ragged on him pretty hard after, which isn't likely to help him take critique well.

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Very hard to determine tone over text though true

kindred mason Nov 5, 2016, 2:51 AM

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Aye, trust me...I've obviously been in the line of sight of such accusations

earnest jasper Nov 5, 2016, 4:54 AM

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yep that's a 3d model of van gogh's bedroom

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@ionic mica

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and the unreal chair does ruin it given the chair was one of the focal points of the original painting

ionic mica Nov 5, 2016, 4:55 AM

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lol

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I totally just guessed it but it is an actual van gogh painting

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well, that would explain why the color palette and composition in that image was actually good

earnest jasper Nov 5, 2016, 5:44 AM

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haha yeah

lament zenith Nov 5, 2016, 8:26 AM

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guys, what could be the hourly rate for a medium level skilled UE4 engine side developer in Europe (around Serbia or in east Europe) ?

kindred mason Nov 5, 2016, 8:35 AM

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they got glassdoor in europe @lament zenith ?

lament zenith Nov 5, 2016, 8:41 AM

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Hi. No idea about glassdoor

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Let me check

lilac walrus Nov 5, 2016, 2:03 PM

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We do have Glassdoor, but it's not useful

ocean harbor Nov 5, 2016, 3:37 PM

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@buoyant latch agree with you

compact ivy Nov 5, 2016, 7:41 PM

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So, can anyone give thoughts on my portfolio? If anything looks weak, etc.

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http://www.coroflot.com/BWC24/portfolio

Coroflot

Bruce Crum, Game Developer in Houston, TX

My name is Bruce Crum. I have been playing games since I was a child and now have begun to design small prototypes and scenes in Unreal Engine 4. What you'll find on my portfolio is primarily small gameplay mechanic tests or scenes I have created in my spare time. I would love to join a team eventually and help contribute with my skills in programming and or level design. Some of my strengths include learning new ideas, programs, techniques, and software relatively quickly. I am constantly learning new thin...

buoyant latch Nov 5, 2016, 8:59 PM

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Did you make the assets yourself?

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@compact ivy

compact ivy Nov 5, 2016, 9:07 PM

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No. Most of it is borrowed from infinity blade or other unreal projects

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Well. Epic game staff stuff anyhow

buoyant latch Nov 5, 2016, 9:12 PM

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Cool, I'd make that clear in your portfolio

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Grappling hook looks cool. I'm an art guy though so nothing overly helpful to say.

compact ivy Nov 5, 2016, 9:23 PM

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Noted, thanks

pastel estuary Nov 6, 2016, 10:56 AM

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hey @compact ivy
your archvis scenes:
make them feel more personal, show them you go the extra mile by adding some clutter, some plants, paintings, sockets, trash on the counter, a glass on the table, sockets on the walls, and find cool content you can fill up the empty space with. make it feel like a home instead of a house/room.
Uncharted's epilogue is a great example of what makes a room feel like a home.
Sadly I cant find the art-dump so I'll post a few screenies of said home:
http://pre07.deviantart.net/3a8c/th/pre/f/2016/136/3/2/uncharted_4__a_thiefs_end_beautiful_room_by_markzago-da2r50f.jpg
https://cdna2.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/002/610/510/large/boon-cotter-epilogue-livingroom-01.jpg?1463607139
https://cdnb1.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/002/610/517/large/boon-cotter-epilogue-workshed-01.jpg?1463607155
http://pre07.deviantart.net/6f8b/th/pre/f/2016/136/7/0/uncharted_4__a_thiefs_end_house_by_markzago-da2r542.jpg
https://cdnb1.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/002/610/513/large/boon-cotter-epilogue-livingroom-02.jpg?1463607147
the real difference here is.. anybody can put up a few walls, add some furniture and call it archviz, but not anybody can make a house feel like a home.

compact ivy Nov 6, 2016, 10:57 AM

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Right. I would love to, but I had to work with what was given to me. I would love to clutter up the area though

pastel estuary Nov 6, 2016, 10:58 AM

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another good point is, try to look at the angles of these shots and simmiliar ones, as you tend to chose easy angles and not fully understand the rule of thirds

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Temple shots:
the colors are very bland, green and yellowish brown, it needs more contrast.
the nightshots actually hurt you more than impress people, i'd at least make it look like a moon shines down into it, or better yet, add torches or fill up the scenery with candles to give an awesome atmosphere. as currently its just meshes that are poorly lit.

compact ivy Nov 6, 2016, 11:00 AM

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Understand

pastel estuary Nov 6, 2016, 11:00 AM

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same with the church

compact ivy Nov 6, 2016, 11:01 AM

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Understood. I have actually thiugh about reshooting those scene actually

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With better lighting

pastel estuary Nov 6, 2016, 11:02 AM

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the desert temple water tiles too much, find a way to get rid of that. but since its only one shot its hard to go in depth. I do know that the surface area where tree's and plants would grow in such an environment would be darker and potentially filthier thanthe sand around it.

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firebridge looks really oldskool, could be from an unreal 1 area

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+1 kudo's for dem sentiment, though only old unreal/ut mappers would get that :p

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id add massive tree's. mountains, clouds, other stuff above that temple for a grandeur-esque feel

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or massive temple towers

compact ivy Nov 6, 2016, 11:03 AM

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That wasn't really inspired by unreal 1, I just kind of made that on the spot lol

pastel estuary Nov 6, 2016, 11:04 AM

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nordic ruin (or skyrim) needs way more atmospheric lights

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also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thirds

Rule of thirds

The rule of thirds is a "rule of thumb" or guideline which applies to the process of composing visual images such as designs, films, paintings, and photographs. The guideline proposes that an image should be imagined as divided into nine equal parts by two equally spaced horizontal lines and two equally spaced vertical lines, and that important compositional elements should be placed along these lines or their intersections. Proponents of the technique claim that aligning a subject with these points creates...

compact ivy Nov 6, 2016, 11:04 AM

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Understood. Thanks

pastel estuary Nov 6, 2016, 11:05 AM

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def keep practicing and improving 😃

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its good stuff, you just need to find both time and how to put your being into the scenes

compact ivy Nov 6, 2016, 11:06 AM

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Tha ks.

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Like I said though, I usually only have assets from other unreal projects. So I can't clutter it up as much as I'd want to

pastel estuary Nov 6, 2016, 11:08 AM

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back in the old unreal days we tried repurposing everything so it became something else, rescaling, kit bashing, retexturing. its a nice and creative skill to have.

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additionally, def pick up a 3d program

compact ivy Nov 6, 2016, 11:09 AM

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I actually have thought about picking up Maya, since I pretty much know the fundementals of programming for the most part

lament zenith Nov 6, 2016, 11:09 AM

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"they got glassdoor in europe @ahsan ?"

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Glassdoor totally useless

compact ivy Nov 6, 2016, 11:10 AM

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Plus photoshop would definitely be usefully to have.

pastel estuary Nov 6, 2016, 11:10 AM

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yea, but quixel/substance modo/zbrush etc as well

compact ivy Nov 6, 2016, 11:12 AM

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I hear 3d painter is the next big thing now. According to a guy I know who's worked with treyarch

pastel estuary Nov 6, 2016, 11:12 AM

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yea, but so is photography. but with so much software, so many artists.. any additional skill and knowledge of software will be valueble

compact ivy Nov 6, 2016, 11:14 AM

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Thank you. I'm off to reshooting.

pastel estuary Nov 6, 2016, 11:14 AM

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enjoy 😃

compact ivy Nov 6, 2016, 11:15 AM

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The night temple scene, I always did feel it was weak anyhow

earnest jasper Nov 6, 2016, 10:15 PM

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@pastel estuary those images are the most calming thing I've ever seen

pastel estuary Nov 6, 2016, 10:18 PM

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?

earnest jasper Nov 6, 2016, 10:21 PM

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the archvis ones

pastel estuary Nov 6, 2016, 10:21 PM

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ah yea, uncharted artists ftw

earnest jasper Nov 6, 2016, 10:22 PM

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yeah

gentle pewter Nov 7, 2016, 8:33 AM

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that's not archviz, that's just env art 😄

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running on a PS4 no less

pastel estuary Nov 7, 2016, 8:40 AM

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still 100 times better than the bland stuff we see mostly :p

ocean harbor Nov 7, 2016, 9:21 AM

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ArchiViz has different requirements, placing too many personal objects around can be detrimental to perception of the buyers - if they are looking at buying new place they don't want it to look as someone already lives there.

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Nevertheless it can be cool for marketing of your skills or competitions, just don't expect clients to be asking for such level of clutter.

pastel estuary Nov 7, 2016, 9:40 AM

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in case of personal projects and learning the trade, making a room extremely personalized is quite the challenge 😃

ocean harbor Nov 7, 2016, 9:52 AM

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well, I woudn't use interior render with overlapping carpets, mold on walls and trees almost braking a window as a reference to archiviz quality 😉

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decoration details have to be in the "proper" style, which usually means what is fashionable right now and what kind of property is that - luxury or budget and etc,

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but decor still has to be subtle - generic sculptures, generic pictures, generic plants as they shoudn't attract attention

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@compact ivy I would remove arhiviz completely - it looks too much "fake". Furniture is arranged into tight block in largerly empty room. Size of the room suggest that this is a loft, which means - expensive. This should be reflected in decoration. Tightly packed furniture is a necessety of confined space, here you have aabundance of space

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search for renders of the lofts as a reference. One of the typical things you will see is tea table placed like this: http://www.archiform3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/06-evolution-architectural-rendering.jpg

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it's so far that your can't even reach it from sofa or chairs

pastel estuary Nov 7, 2016, 10:06 AM

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also, wide angle/fish eye lenses ftw

ocean harbor Nov 7, 2016, 10:07 AM

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^

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point of view on those interiors is rather bad, it would look weird even if it's a real photo

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like someone had to put a ladder to take a shot of their living room to rent it out

pastel estuary Nov 7, 2016, 10:08 AM

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when looking for a new place with my gf we saw a few very nice rooms, went to visit the place onlyto find out the room was only half as long as was promised in the photos hehe

ocean harbor Nov 7, 2016, 10:10 AM

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like this? 😄

📎 modern-studio-apartment-kitchen-living-room-interior-design-photo-taken-fisheye-lens-54439558.png

pastel estuary Nov 7, 2016, 10:11 AM

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yea but way worse hehe

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felt like the kitchen was a few miles long

ocean harbor Nov 7, 2016, 10:19 AM

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hehehe 😄

compact ivy Nov 7, 2016, 10:58 AM

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Would closing the space look better? And I think that comes from my bias for preferring more room to cluttered apartments

ocean harbor Nov 7, 2016, 10:58 AM

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you need more even distribution of furniture around

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you could place something like two sided book shelves as a separator between dining and living room space for example

compact ivy Nov 7, 2016, 11:04 AM

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Kk. Thanks. I'll figure something out

ocean harbor Nov 7, 2016, 11:12 AM

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@compact ivy if you want professional feedback on archiviz, CGTalk is a good place for it

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They have plenty of articles on How To as well

compact ivy Nov 7, 2016, 11:21 AM

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So... what do you mean by archviz?

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Oh... archviz are the assets. I see

ocean harbor Nov 7, 2016, 11:24 AM

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architectural visualization

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interiors/exteriors

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but not game environments

compact ivy Nov 7, 2016, 11:28 AM

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Hmm. Maybe I should remake the area, instead of modifying it.

pastel estuary Nov 7, 2016, 11:29 AM

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its ok to call something done, and start a new project

compact ivy Nov 7, 2016, 1:43 PM

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@pastel estuary @ocean harbor What about now? http://imgur.com/a/UXnq8

Imgur

Apartment Updated

Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet.

pastel estuary Nov 7, 2016, 1:46 PM

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id add smore plants (but im a huge sucker for plants so might be a bit biased) and too much paintings, id remove quite a few, and find some bigger ones to put on one or two of the walls. also, though might be a dutch thing, often above living area and dining area we have some kind of hanging lamp. not really chandelier, but something less sockety thingy

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also, the few blue lamps feel a tad out of place, you might want to add more stuff around that adds to the blue/red thats in the room

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a painting in both colors, or a carpet or other stuff in those colors would add quite a bit imho

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also, i cant help it.. but a pet peeve of mine is not being able to see sockets :p i need my electric outlets

ocean harbor Nov 7, 2016, 1:48 PM

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last two shots are better
agree with Luos too many paintings which look the same. Btw windows are strangely small for such a large room.

pastel estuary Nov 7, 2016, 1:48 PM

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on the wall behind the diner you'd probably expect a more hero-cabinet thing

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not the same as the two in living area

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but a big manly eye catcher thing

ocean harbor Nov 7, 2016, 1:49 PM

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is this made up floor plan?

pastel estuary Nov 7, 2016, 1:49 PM

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imho does look a lot better already

compact ivy Nov 7, 2016, 1:50 PM

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yes @ocean harbor

ocean harbor Nov 7, 2016, 1:50 PM

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other trick which is often used is extra wide images, this is done so that wide FOV camera looks more natural, by cutting top and bottom of the screen to improve composition

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@compact ivy might want to just use real one as inspiration, windows are too small for such big room, unless this is some sort of really weird architecture where engineeris dictates limits

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in which case, designers would go for very light almost whit colors to make it look brighter + something like paper curtains instead of heavy dark drapes

pastel estuary Nov 7, 2016, 1:54 PM

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https://i.gyazo.com/10ff6e1713d09ceff249ec398d80b767.png my floorplan

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kitchen was not installed yet hehe

ocean harbor Nov 7, 2016, 1:54 PM

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like here for example:
http://cdn.home-designing.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/3-Open-plan-loft-design.jpeg

pastel estuary Nov 7, 2016, 1:55 PM

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https://i.gyazo.com/3cb93379c062c84242951c1efe9addeb.png

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shit, id sell my liver for that loft hehe

ocean harbor Nov 7, 2016, 1:55 PM

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btw, should we move this discussion to #work-in-progress perhaps?

pastel estuary Nov 7, 2016, 1:55 PM

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yea, prolly

candid parcel Nov 8, 2016, 6:58 AM

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Dayum. BoredEngineer is multi-skilled as hell. Interior designer on top of everything else he does! 😛

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 8:12 AM

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@candid parcel man, I can't even select sofa for the last year 😄
But I did worked with archiviz and construction business for some years.

candid parcel Nov 8, 2016, 8:13 AM

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Haha. Nice stuff. I didn't do archviz.

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But I did do actual interior design 😛

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High end interior design is all about the fancy built-in stuff.

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Rich people spend as much on cabinetry as normal people do on houses. 😛

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 8:16 AM

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Nice 😄 How come you avoided archiviz?

candid parcel Nov 8, 2016, 8:17 AM

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I didn't avoid it so much as I simply did the interior design side of things more. I can do arch-viz (and did it while I was a student) 😃

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I can kinda do arch-viz. Would probably benefit with some good critique/pointers.

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But I just haven't been paid to do it, so haven't spent much time honing those skills 😛

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The firms I worked at didn't utilize visualization much in that way. They preferred to avoid literalism as it made customers more expectant and less flexible.

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'Why doesn't it look like this'

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 8:20 AM

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I was a student when got a part time job of digitizing drawings in construction company. They where building log houses.

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Yeah, it was the same case, they had a great portfolio of real projects, there weren't need in doing "emotional" attachment using renders.

candid parcel Nov 8, 2016, 8:21 AM

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Ah drafting work. I miss it a little. But not enough 😄

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Anyway... currently trying to build a new york brick loft apartment for VR 😄

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 8:23 AM

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Yeah it was a lot of AutoCAD at the beginning, then I switched to archicad and one Software for log plans

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For a real client or as experiment?

candid parcel Nov 8, 2016, 8:23 AM

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For a demo I want to put out

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Shit's fun when you don't have to create the real thing 😛

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 8:29 AM

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We did vr projects about 7 years ago, but it was cost effective only on concept design faze. More detailed level cost more than a high quality CG animation, which was easier to "consume" and distribute.

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I wonder if anything is different today

candid parcel Nov 8, 2016, 8:29 AM

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5 years? Before the whole Rift thing? 😮

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 8:30 AM

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7 - correction 😃

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Yes, we used Vuzix devices

candid parcel Nov 8, 2016, 8:30 AM

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Nice. But also yuck!

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haha 😄

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Yeah, I think given how powerful Unreal 4 is getting, it's a pretty easy direction to justify.

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Lose some render quality, but gain massively on render speed and also get the benefit of a real time demo out of it (either for desktop or VR distro)

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Once we get things like planar reflections in there, and do VXGI plugins, you can get some near render quality work happening in real-ish time

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Just take the template and reuse for other projects. Golden. Also useful during the concepting, to design to sales phases - depending on how you have your pipeline setup.

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:25 AM

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@candid parcel yeah it should be possible. Basically we spend few years designing our pipeline that allowed cost and time efficient production of interactive models. We used different engine and it was modified to some extent.

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Btw, I would still recommend to use Vuzix devices intead of Oculus or Vive - they have plenty of benefits for business application.

candid parcel Nov 8, 2016, 9:26 AM

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Really?

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:29 AM

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you don't need 60+ framerate to use them
no nosea as FOV is lower
very light
look as professional device, less as gaming device (except latest consumer version :D)
full control over how rendering is done, so you decide on how camera moves, what is distance between eyes and etc
can work in mono mode with a single button click
full resolution on each eye - it works as Nvidia stereo by sending series of images for each eye separate, not combined into one

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no lens flare or glare effects in optics

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high quality micro screen instead of phone screen - device is smaller and lighter

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no overheating problems or face sweating

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downside:
a bit more expensive
not as well know
technically lower field of view but practically difference is not too big

candid parcel Nov 8, 2016, 9:30 AM

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Hmmm... Decent arguments. But the quality difference in the actual VR experience is huge. Generational difference.

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And integration between engines seems tougher.

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Rift/Vive stuff much more plug and play.

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And if you want motion controllers, there's basically no competition.

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AFAIK

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:33 AM

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We did integration for Vuzix into engine with closed code in about half a day :D
Vuzix now uses hmd cables, so you can plug it into anything.
There are controller available separately.

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I don't think people realise how much closed Oculus and Vive are and that a lot of issue that they work on solving are direct result of hardware design and not objective problems with HMDs

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but anyway, I don't want to argue about this

candid parcel Nov 8, 2016, 9:35 AM

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Hmmm. Sounds intriguing! Had no idea Vuzix were still worth considering 😃

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:35 AM

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Imho for business application they are way more superior

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you know that back in 90s there where plenty of HMDs with high FOV?

candid parcel Nov 8, 2016, 9:36 AM

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How high though?

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:36 AM

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later pretty much everyone settled on not more than 65 degrees

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there was one with 160 as far as I know

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plenty of about 100

candid parcel Nov 8, 2016, 9:37 AM

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Resolution must've been terrible though

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:37 AM

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sure, but much less different than nowadays

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between what HMD can do and typical monitor

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btw, practical FOV in Oculus is about 75 degrees 😄

candid parcel Nov 8, 2016, 9:38 AM

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What do you mean 'practical'?

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:38 AM

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one where you can actually see things before they get smudged by lens

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something that your eyes actually see in focus

candid parcel Nov 8, 2016, 9:39 AM

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Ah... so in focus FOV.

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:39 AM

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yes, you can't focus beyound that because of optics

candid parcel Nov 8, 2016, 9:39 AM

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I'd say the 'smeared FOV' is still useful though - especially given the nature of foveated perception.

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:40 AM

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sure, but you can replace that with a set of ambient leds and don't waste performance on rendering almost 30% of the frame

candid parcel Nov 8, 2016, 9:40 AM

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There's a pretty huge gradient of difference between ambient LED array and smeared FOV.

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Especially as your eyes start to move into that area!

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:42 AM

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I'm a bit biased in regards to high fov, Sensics had hmd with 160 degress

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without any wrapping or issues with optics

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they are made as array of screens and lenses

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you can actually use your eyes to look around

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but that thing was something like 18k $ base price 😄

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and you need to wait for half a year for it to be manufactured

candid parcel Nov 8, 2016, 9:43 AM

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Haha! Sounds like you're reminiscing about the good old days

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of VR. That most people never experienced 😃

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160 though man. Would like to have seen that.

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:44 AM

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They still bring it to exhibitions as far as I know

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but those are for business and research, you won't meet them as CEE

candid parcel Nov 8, 2016, 9:45 AM

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Yeah fair enough.

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:47 AM

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I'll wait couple of year and see what those guys (Vuzix and Sensics) will come up with. They are already well established in business sector, but so far had a very little activity in consumer market.

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If I build a game with support of their helmet, I want to be sure customers could buy them 😄

earnest jasper Nov 8, 2016, 9:01 PM

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have you used VR @ocean harbor ?

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because FOV is the second thing behind resolution where HMDs could really stand to improve

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it's not immersive until the tunnel vision is gone

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:05 PM

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@earnest jasper have you used professionally anything besides Oculus and Vive?

earnest jasper Nov 8, 2016, 9:06 PM

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I'm not going to start name dropping who I work for, but yes 😉

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and a lot of it I can't talk about

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so we can't really weigh it up

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:06 PM

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ok, so which HMDs you've used?

earnest jasper Nov 8, 2016, 9:06 PM

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but IMO you can't have a bad FOV and have a viable product

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:07 PM

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why would that matter who you work for? 😉

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it's a simple question - which HMDs you've used? your employer is irrelevant

earnest jasper Nov 8, 2016, 9:08 PM

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I'm not going to be baited into breaking confidentiality

hushed ice Nov 8, 2016, 9:10 PM

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http://en.pimaxvr.com

earnest jasper Nov 8, 2016, 9:10 PM

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it's very hard to explain how bad a low FOV is to someone who hasn't used VR, and it needs no explanation for people who have

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:11 PM

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sure sure

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btw, it's called HMD not VR 😉

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but I see where this conversation is going and won't continue it with you. Peace

earnest jasper Nov 8, 2016, 9:12 PM

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@hushed ice that's interesting,. how does it auto-adapt IPD?

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@ocean harbor it's a shame you're so hostile all the time

hushed ice Nov 8, 2016, 9:13 PM

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you have to set it thru settings

earnest jasper Nov 8, 2016, 9:13 PM

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it must be time to go spend four days sending someone down the wrong track with simple materials eh mate

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@hushed ice ah, so it's like a calibration wizard?

hushed ice Nov 8, 2016, 9:13 PM

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I guess, haven't used it much myself

earnest jasper Nov 8, 2016, 9:13 PM

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I wondered if it had some internal cameras like one of the other HMDs coming out

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:13 PM

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@earnest jasper what are you talking about?

hushed ice Nov 8, 2016, 9:14 PM

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its horrid software and so on is not a good enough reason to stop using a Vive

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so it's just laying there

earnest jasper Nov 8, 2016, 9:14 PM

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oh :/

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that's a thing too. there's a lot of HMDs coming out that all focus on doing one new thing, but without really being as good as the best of the last gen at anything else

hushed ice Nov 8, 2016, 9:16 PM

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problem with that one is it has the hardware but its soft is garbo, sadly

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but yup

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(just realized this is #career-chat, lol)

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:25 PM

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@earnest jasper so will your answer for your words or you will just keep talking shit about me?

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?

earnest jasper Nov 8, 2016, 9:29 PM

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actually I'm going to take that back.

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maybe one day you'll share something in work-in-progress @ocean harbor ?

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:31 PM

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and what do you want to see there?

earnest jasper Nov 8, 2016, 9:31 PM

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perhaps something you're working on?

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:32 PM

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check my signature on forum

earnest jasper Nov 8, 2016, 9:32 PM

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haven't seen it

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:36 PM

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don't see how it's relevant anyway

earnest jasper Nov 8, 2016, 9:38 PM

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I was trying to change the tone of the conversation

buoyant latch Nov 8, 2016, 9:40 PM

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📎 Screen_Shot_2016-11-08_at_4.39.55_PM.png

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:40 PM

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ok, my question was simple, this conversation regarding "bad fov" we had already many times since first Kickstarter of the Oculus

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I do agree that wider FOV is better for perception of the scene, but there are number of downsides, which where solved only by very expensive harware and feeling noiseus is not fixable by even that

earnest jasper Nov 8, 2016, 9:42 PM

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your question was "what HMDs have I used" and I already told you I'm under NDA. I can talk about the HMD I own personally or my opinion of HMDs but I'm not allowed to disclose work stuff.

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:43 PM

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so have you used HMD with a FOV lower than 70 degrees?

earnest jasper Nov 8, 2016, 9:43 PM

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current gen HMDs would be considered very-expensive-hardware five years ago. any custom hardware is.

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the limiting factor in FOV is obviously the screen, but there's some nice things coming in that area.

buoyant latch Nov 8, 2016, 9:44 PM

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My favorite thing is that this convo is happening in Jobs

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:44 PM

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5 years ago, 700$ would be the chippest HMD out of what you can buy

buoyant latch Nov 8, 2016, 9:44 PM

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Its really intesting though

earnest jasper Nov 8, 2016, 9:45 PM

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I wouldn't have bothered with a $700 HMD five years ago

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:45 PM

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limiting factor it's not only screen it's a lense too

earnest jasper Nov 8, 2016, 9:45 PM

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we had them but nobody was really interested in using them. we got into it properly when positional tracking became more common.

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lenses are there to overcome screen limitations

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eventually HMDs won't have lenses

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:46 PM

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so what did you had 5 years ago?

granite brook Nov 8, 2016, 9:47 PM

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Yo, is this talk about job?

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Otherwise, please get outa here

earnest jasper Nov 8, 2016, 9:47 PM

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don't know, I only started here two years ago

ocean harbor Nov 8, 2016, 9:47 PM

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good point

earnest jasper Nov 8, 2016, 9:47 PM

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I'm talking about my job 😦

real pasture Nov 12, 2016, 6:10 AM

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Hello. I was wondering if there is a section for recruiting team mates to work on a project here on Unreal Slackers?

plucky hatch Nov 12, 2016, 6:34 AM

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@real pasture yep here is fine
Prefix your job offer with one of the following to get it pinned:

• [PAID]
• [CONTRACT]
• [ROYALTY]
• [UNPAID]

Jobs will remain pinned for 7 days or until you request to have it unpinned; whichever comes first.

kindred mason Nov 12, 2016, 12:12 PM

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[PAID] https://gyazo.com/a37cae52c8df014bbaa0c9a045371a5c

Gyazo

plucky hatch Nov 12, 2016, 12:12 PM

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lilac walrus Nov 12, 2016, 2:53 PM

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why the heck would you pin that?

hushed ice Nov 12, 2016, 2:54 PM

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wot

kindred mason Nov 12, 2016, 4:44 PM

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@lilac walrus silly question...

lilac walrus Nov 12, 2016, 4:45 PM

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Why is it a silly question? This is the Unreal Slackers group, and Rovio do not use Unreal

kindred mason Nov 12, 2016, 4:45 PM

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...

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I can't read the channel topic on mobile

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But last time I checked it wasn't #ue-jobs

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If you are uninterested, keep it moving.

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Why does everything posted here have to get remarked on? This channel's purpose is pretty clear cut.

digital gate Nov 12, 2016, 8:09 PM

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heh

gentle pewter Nov 12, 2016, 8:34 PM

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@kindred mason no website, no contact address... 😄

kindred mason Nov 12, 2016, 8:34 PM

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@gentle pewter make new rules

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I mean, like I said before...

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Rules are clear cut

gentle pewter Nov 12, 2016, 8:35 PM

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?

kindred mason Nov 12, 2016, 8:35 PM

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Nothing states website or contact info 😉

gentle pewter Nov 12, 2016, 8:35 PM

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I'm just saying it's not useful as a screenshot of a post, without the link or the name

kindred mason Nov 12, 2016, 8:35 PM

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I just threw it up there for those who want a job

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in those fields

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They can google

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Anyway:https://gyazo.com/4ca51b8f8cfc397185aa46b2e7f0f748

Gyazo

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If no one wants to apply, they won't put the extra effort into it.

gentle pewter Nov 12, 2016, 8:39 PM

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you don't go out of your way for other people, do you? 😉

kindred mason Nov 12, 2016, 8:43 PM

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...

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I didn't have to post that though

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And that came in from a source inside

lilac walrus Nov 12, 2016, 9:40 PM

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Rovio are pretty much always hiring, their staff churn rate is pretty bad

steel creek Nov 13, 2016, 8:44 AM

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Ill give you guys a little secret: Any studios with over 50 ppl are always hiring. Always. If a resume lands on their desk that is a fit, they will make a hard effort to hire. It has been the new "meta" employment thing for the last decade (in LA at least)

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practice. work hard. jobs a plenty.

earnest jasper Nov 13, 2016, 9:06 AM

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yep we're always hiring too. know CUDA and want a job? We gotchu

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we will MAKE a job for you to do

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sometimes I think it's just companies get paranoid about not having resourcing if they have some amazing idea and want to belt away at it

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then they realise all their existing resources are committed anyway, so they'd better get some spare

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then those spare people do something that you can't take them off of, and the cycle continues until you run out of viable developers to hire

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we've begun training people to do the things we need

vernal wolf Nov 13, 2016, 9:51 AM

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Can confirm, I have many open offers

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No real task for me, just, hey, if you want onboard, let us know

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We'll figure it out

scarlet maple Nov 13, 2016, 1:40 PM

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tag your proposal as [UNPAID] and make sure it's an engaging proposal

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opps. didn't scroll down

compact ivy Nov 13, 2016, 3:05 PM

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Can also confirm, usually get offers for royalty based projects. Haven't found anything full time yet though 😕

buoyant latch Nov 13, 2016, 4:34 PM

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^ same here. GUESS WE GOTTA GIT GUD!

compact ivy Nov 13, 2016, 4:42 PM

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I mean, i'll take a royaltee based project for the expierence, but i'm hoping to find something full time

wraith tartan Nov 13, 2016, 5:14 PM

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[PAID] CCP Games Atlanta is looking for a Graphics Programmer and a Senior Console Programmer for an upcoming innovative VR title.

https://ccpgameshr.secure.force.com/recruit/fRecruit__ApplyJob?vacancyNo=VN108

https://ccpgameshr.secure.force.com/recruit/fRecruit__ApplyJob?vacancyNo=VN131

glad imp Nov 13, 2016, 5:40 PM

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Cool

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😃

wraith mortar Nov 14, 2016, 2:17 AM

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@earnest jasper where was it you work anyway, out of curiosity

plucky hatch Nov 14, 2016, 10:58 AM

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lilac walrus Nov 14, 2016, 10:58 AM

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[PAID] LFW: Looking for short term technical design work; i.e. game design, prototyping, gameplay mechanics, scripting and / or level design. I'm currently available for up to three months, and can work on / off site as necessary. Have an office in the UK with a fair amount of space already set up to do VR projects.

sour gyro Nov 15, 2016, 5:12 AM

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[UNPAID] LFM: Syn Industry is looking for people of all professions for development of Synaria:The Awakening.(Online Multiplayer RPG/FPS)It is currently just me working on this, with quite afew others hoping I find a team for this. (It's gotten decent reviews so far for being a prototype. youtube.com/watch?v=Cyg7nJ8aHqU ) Please message me if you are willing to take the risk that this may or may not succeed.

scarlet trench Nov 15, 2016, 7:37 AM

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I've just started learning Unreal, but just outta curiousity, what kinda skills are you lookin' for? @sour gyro

plucky hatch Nov 15, 2016, 9:13 PM

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I've been using UE4 since this summer, but i've been level designing since i was 14. (5 years total) heres my art station https://noxxid3.artstation.com/

Carl Dorzok

Home page

Level/Environmentalist

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pm me

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I'm looking for a job as a level designer/environmentalist

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@sour gyro seems intresting

plucky hatch Nov 15, 2016, 10:54 PM

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scarlet trench Nov 16, 2016, 3:18 AM

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@gray folio some screenshots or a video of your WIP might help.

gray folio Nov 16, 2016, 3:19 AM

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On Discord or on the Forums?

scarlet trench Nov 16, 2016, 3:21 AM

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@gray folio Wherever you're lookin' for people. Though the forums are not the best place as the 'Jobs' subforum is pretty much dead now.

gray folio Nov 16, 2016, 3:23 AM

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It still gets activity from time to time, I've been keeping my eye on it. I wanted to put together a more appealing thread rather than just posting on the subforum on what I really need.

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But thank you for the heads up.

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📎 bridge.png

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📎 Town.png

glad imp Nov 16, 2016, 3:24 AM

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That looks really cool

gray folio Nov 16, 2016, 3:24 AM

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@glad imp Thank you, I spent a lot of time on the models.

glad imp Nov 16, 2016, 3:26 AM

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@gray folio I can tell. Job well done

earnest jasper Nov 16, 2016, 3:33 AM

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nice bridge!

gray folio Nov 16, 2016, 3:49 AM

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@earnest jasper Thank you!

scarlet trench Nov 16, 2016, 4:11 AM

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@gray folio That looks great 👌

How d'you plan to do the MMO part of it though?

gray folio Nov 16, 2016, 4:13 AM

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The MMO portion will consist on dedicated servers with a limit of how many players it can hold within the server.

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I assume you wanted a more detailed explanation?

scarlet trench Nov 16, 2016, 4:14 AM

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@gray folio Umm yeah...I was wondering if you were gonna run your own server or rely on a service like AWS.

gray folio Nov 16, 2016, 4:20 AM

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@scarlet trench More than likely not. I had the intentions on allowing players to pretty much run their own servers as they please. Including adaptable functions that allow the player that owns the server to adjust dynamic values from the standard game. For instance, the server operator will be able to adjust an interger of how much a property cost in the game is. But administration in the game should be dynamic so a specific level of administration should be able to take advantage of that too.

scarlet trench Nov 16, 2016, 4:26 AM

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@gray folio Wow that's bold, and with your pics it kinda reminds me of San Andreas Multiplayer. Is this your first game?

gray folio Nov 16, 2016, 4:29 AM

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@scarlet trench Yes, it is. And I'm glad that you actually brought that up. It's what inspired me to make something like this in the first place. I've had experiences with scripting pawn in the servers that I've owned or helped, and even as far as owning and managing a community based on that. Then I made one that was based on a client modification I did which took quite the effort and time.

scarlet trench Nov 16, 2016, 6:45 AM

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@gray folio Sounds great, it's a massive undertaking for your first game though.

plucky hatch Nov 16, 2016, 4:23 PM

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http://i.imgur.com/Yz9ZDVS.jpg WIP on squad mod 😛 Map design WIP

lapis mauve Nov 16, 2016, 5:17 PM

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Hello! Any Derbyshire / UK Midlands based developers looking for a designer/developer? Would love to meet up and talk!

buoyant latch Nov 16, 2016, 6:15 PM

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Cool! @plucky hatch

plucky hatch Nov 16, 2016, 6:33 PM

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Im looking for work still :

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😛

plucky hatch Nov 17, 2016, 6:01 PM

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[TRADE]
Looking to trade services with services, spcifically looking for someone who can Animate/rig animal meshes.
I could offer several things like Mocap data, Modeling work, I am also very well versed in working with Blueprints in general and the Animation System.
PM me for a detailed discussion about this

pastel estuary Nov 18, 2016, 8:11 AM

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for those who would like to waste loads of time and get nothing out of it: https://www.reddit.com/r/unrealengine/comments/5djpal/fallout_4_ue4_roleplay_server/?st=IVNH7CTR&sh=bcdbdbd4 hehe

Fallout 4 UE4 roleplay server • /r/unrealengine

Hey guys, I'm a game design student doing my last year in Montreal Canada. I've been working both personally and professionally on games in both...

oblique jolt Nov 18, 2016, 11:59 AM

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Hi everyone, Im looking for someone well versed in the blueprint system. if youre good with physics and can do good maths that would be best. the job will entail bug fixes, adjustments to mechanics and transferring over these fx. https://gumroad.com/l/BallisticVFX there is not much left to do, when this prototype is completed It will be submitted for the dev grant. Send me a message so we can talk details. 👾 THIS IS A PAID JOB 😃

Gumroad

Unreal 4 Cubit Studios Ballistics FX Pack - Particle Impact FX f...

Launch trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd03gqMuMfE. ------------- Material Interactions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6xjBjXFkEk. Some of the latest FX: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-PX-Iyo6lA. Pre-launch Videos: Shrapnel Added to the explosion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JRSY-Pa1j0. Demo Map Work in progress: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V45_FbgBgKA. ------------- If you are making a game in unreal 4 there is a reasonable chance you may at some point feature projectile weapons. Ir...

scarlet trench Nov 18, 2016, 12:41 PM

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@pastel estuary Wow that's a really cool project. And they even got the approvals! 😯

edgy talon Nov 18, 2016, 6:41 PM

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Looking for a BP-guru, preferably in US (Texas), preferably with affordable to indies rates

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(I could work with Canada and EU BP gurus too 😃 )

lilac walrus Nov 18, 2016, 7:16 PM

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you may want to specify what it is you want them to do and for how long

edgy talon Nov 18, 2016, 8:22 PM

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I figured.. Currently just gathering intel on who's available and once I have list of folks, I can just send them des doc when it's ready

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@lilac walrus ^^

digital gate Nov 18, 2016, 9:19 PM

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@edgy talon Not in Texas, but am in US.

tawny kayak Nov 19, 2016, 12:33 AM

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@edgy talon You're not likely to get much interest without giving more information up front.

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I recommend at least giving a brief description of the project, whether it's paid up front or royalty-based, and the best way to contact you.

edgy talon Nov 19, 2016, 1:29 AM

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@tawny kayak aye, thanks for the tip

gray folio Nov 19, 2016, 8:41 AM

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[ROYALTY] Angry Predator Studios is seeking a variety of skill sets to their team to help construct and support their newest project; Liberty. For more information you can view our thread found on the Unreal Engine forums.

https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?129199-Modern-day-MMORPG-game-looking-for-support-from-a-variety-of-potential-critical-skill-sets!

Description
Liberty; the Massive Multiplayer Online Roleplaying modern day setting project, consist on offering players the freedom to choose an existing or creative role to their persona. From joining legal or illegal factions in the game to making a difference in the fictionalized state of Memphis, Tennessee.

You, as the player will illustrate how your story anticipates your own character's daily life.

I'm the only sole developer that works on Liberty day in and day out, I handle the

plucky hatch Nov 19, 2016, 8:41 AM

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scarlet trench Nov 19, 2016, 12:16 PM

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@gray folio What all have you got up and runnin' till now apart from the map?

gray folio Nov 19, 2016, 3:05 PM

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@scarlet trench There's no character made models or much blueprint work behind the project other than the map level itself. I wanted to get some of the map portions finished before starting on what I needed in other skillset categories or at least get a team behind me when I partially have the first island within the map done, which I do.

gentle pewter Nov 19, 2016, 9:51 PM

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actually relevant:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEpTlRuLXkg

YouTube

Remedy Entertainment Oy

Making Games Is Hard

▶ Play video

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(Remedy seem to be hiring)

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(also, hilarious blooper/bug reel from their previous game)

knotty shore Nov 19, 2016, 11:27 PM

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This is true beauty ^^

sharp palm Nov 19, 2016, 11:37 PM

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That video is fantastic and now I badly want to play the part of being pushed in a wheel chair while wielding a shotgun.

knotty shore Nov 19, 2016, 11:43 PM

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@sharp palm That'd be a hilarious VR experience I think^^

sharp palm Nov 19, 2016, 11:47 PM

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I was thinking the same thing 😄 Multiplayer even, one guy has to navigate you out of the building successfully while your guy in the chair has to shoot the way clear.

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Set in a developing Trump dystopia where Trump decides old people are dead weight you have to save gramps from incoming Trump Troopers who are there to do the dirty work...

plucky hatch Nov 20, 2016, 2:04 PM

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We are looking for developers for a massive open world game codenamed project unity, we need developers of all kinds but not testers we got plenty. The job is not paid because we are creating a free to play experience, if that changes you will be contacted immediately. To join the dev team go here: https://discord.gg/MZTxvAk and sign up at the join dev team channel and you will be granted the developer role. We appreciate your help @everyone

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Also a note we are working on ue4

scarlet trench Nov 20, 2016, 6:40 PM

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@fihn14#7887 I suggest you tag the message so that it gets pinned.

placid forum Nov 20, 2016, 7:31 PM

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[Unpaid]: I'm searching for some UE4 Developers. I've got little to no experience, and I'm coming from Unity.
I already had a Team and we also Developed a Game, but the "Hype" about it was gone in weeks, so the development stopped and everyone did it's own thing.
The Projects we will do wont have any ETA's, its just for learning purpose and fun, maybe with a great Outcome :)
You can check out my Game (Unity) here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5KBfXJ4BjGBUHY5YS1NUllyb0E

I would like to recreate it in Unreal Engine. The Goal is fairly simple, just move into the Goal. It's kinda simple but frustrating and very hard too.
Just think about the possibilities: You can have a Co-Op Mode. Electricity, Switche, Darkmode, Lights, Laser, Traps, Enemies, ...

Check out the General Gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvfAH9sPJ28
Have a beatufiful look at one of the Levels: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcaCFtsnWt8

We don't have to make this specific Game - Remember: Its more a learning...thing ;)

Contact me if interested! 😃

YouTube

Daniel Könning

AoaB | Alpha Build 1

▶ Play video

YouTube

Daniel Könning

AoaB | Level 1 - Overview

▶ Play video

scarlet trench Nov 21, 2016, 5:02 AM

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@HeadKnockr#1970 You might wanna play around a bit with the engine before look for a team. Doin' this in UE4 is incredibly easy, considering you've done it in Unity before, it'll be a cakewalk for you here.

glad imp Nov 21, 2016, 5:06 AM

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^

lilac walrus Nov 21, 2016, 12:14 PM

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@moderators - my thingy can be unpinned now. Cheers!

placid forum Nov 21, 2016, 6:53 PM

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@scarlet trench I'm more of a Search for a Programming Buddy. Someone to talk and Code. Creating Ideas and Games. I like working togehter on something

faint idol Nov 22, 2016, 4:34 PM

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**[PAID]**We are looking for developers for a massive open world game codenamed project unity, we need developers of all kinds but not testers we got plenty. The job is paid but after release, if that changes you will be contacted immediately. You don't have to work 24/7 you can work on this when you're free. To join the dev team go here: https://discord.gg/MZTxvAk and sign up at the join dev team channel and you will be granted the developer role. We appreciate your help @everyone DM me for some info about the game. This on UE4.

lilac walrus Nov 22, 2016, 4:42 PM

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you can pin it yourself - read the pinned posts

scarlet trench Nov 22, 2016, 4:50 PM

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@HeadKnockr#1970 if you got any questions or need any sorta help, people here are always ready to oblige. But don't expect a team unless you give 'em atleast a loose idea of what they'll be doing. This server itself can be the 'buddy' you're lookin' for, who can help out and give feedback as well 🙂

placid forum Nov 22, 2016, 8:36 PM

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@scarlet trench Thanks mate! 😃

faint idol Nov 23, 2016, 5:22 PM

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[PAID]@everyone We are currently looking for a concept artist and a graphical designer. You don't have to work 24/7 you can work on this when you're free. To join the dev team go here: https://discord.gg/MZTxvAk

livid pebble Nov 28, 2016, 9:53 PM

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[Unpaid] Hi, looking for someone to sculpt a quadrupedal monster for a small horror game I'm working on. We've already got a base mesh done and some concept art, just looking for someone to do the rest of the sculpting/detail. Rigging and UV unwrapping would be great too but not mandatory. It's unpaid since we're a really small team working on this (3 people) and we're all still in high school, but it'd be a great learning experience :D

Here's a picture of the thing we want modeled: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/cryptidz/images/0/0d/Winter-hodag-web1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140518235706

And an image of the game where the monster will be appearing: https://i.gyazo.com/7c663939eaab58b0952f01df18e1c0f0.png

Message me back if interested 😄

plucky hatch Nov 29, 2016, 5:12 AM

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Im still looking for paid work if anyone is instrested in hiring a level designer.

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https://noxxid3.artstation.com/

Carl Dorzok

Home page

Level/Environmentalist

kindred mason Nov 30, 2016, 3:20 PM

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[PAID] Lead UE4 dev. FTE. DOVER NJ. Relocation assistance will be provided. Starts ASAP! Team of 10-20, will be working for US Army. Get at me ASAP!

plucky hatch Nov 30, 2016, 3:20 PM

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kindred mason Nov 30, 2016, 3:20 PM

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I don't think I can handle NJ ;)

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@digital gate and cant find minupunnie

gentle delta Nov 30, 2016, 6:08 PM

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@gentle pewter Is @plucky hatch supposed to auto-pin? Looks like it did for the previous ad, but not mine.

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(Maybe it was because I wrote [PAID] and then edited it to be [PAID])

lilac walrus Nov 30, 2016, 6:09 PM

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read the pinned post 😉

gentle delta Nov 30, 2016, 6:09 PM

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I did read it, what am I missing?

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[PAID] Full time UE4 engine & game programmers, tech artists (content pipeline & graphics). On-site in Seattle, WA (relocation assistance provided). Competitive pay & good profit sharing, good benefits, and healthy work-life balance. Company of ~55 people. Work on the upcoming State of Decay 2! For more info: http://undeadlabs.com/jobs/ Feel free to message me if you have questions!

plucky hatch Nov 30, 2016, 6:10 PM

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lilac walrus Nov 30, 2016, 6:10 PM

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hehe

gentle delta Nov 30, 2016, 6:11 PM

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I just reposted the literal message and it seems to have taken. I guess it is strict about formatting and doesn't understand edits. 😃

lilac walrus Nov 30, 2016, 6:11 PM

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yeah, I don't think it understands edits

gentle pewter Nov 30, 2016, 6:11 PM

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yeah, I think for editing it doesn't take

gentle delta Nov 30, 2016, 6:14 PM

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I wish that link didn't preview.

atomic relic Nov 30, 2016, 6:17 PM

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@gentle delta I believe you can suppress it by enclosing in <>

gentle delta Nov 30, 2016, 6:19 PM

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@atomic relic Aw, super. Thank you!

digital gate Dec 1, 2016, 2:31 AM

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@kindred mason wut

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Anyhow Vic, Mini is employed

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Not me though

tall sluice Dec 1, 2016, 4:30 PM

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any 3D moddler / animator interessted in working on a little project im currently working on, it's very small and in no need for anything fancy or hard moddels / animation 😃 plz pm

steady depot Dec 1, 2016, 9:20 PM

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[PAID] [CONTRACT] Lookiing for some MoCap animations for a 1v1 arena brawler. On a tight budget cause I am broke af, so PM your best offers with gifs, vids, or whatever of your work.

plucky hatch Dec 1, 2016, 9:20 PM

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rigid knoll Dec 2, 2016, 10:06 AM

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hello fellows, I've been directed here for posting jobs. My team is hiring CG Supervisors for our Beijing team. please apply if that sounds like your thing! https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/were-hiring-cg-supervisors-beijing-egg-story

lilac walrus Dec 2, 2016, 10:26 AM

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I don't use Linkedin, so can't actually see your job posting.

What does a CG supervisor have to do with Unreal 4?

rigid knoll Dec 2, 2016, 10:29 AM

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well I was hoping that someone here has had experience in multiple industries. perhaps someone here used to be in the CG industry and switched to games production

lilac walrus Dec 2, 2016, 10:29 AM

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tbh, I've never heard of anybody going in that direction

rigid knoll Dec 2, 2016, 10:29 AM

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I myself am currently in the CG industry but am experimenting with Unreal for our previz production

steel creek Dec 2, 2016, 4:44 PM

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@rigid knoll I am in the cg industry primary. I am film and TV for two decades doing engineering work for 25 years.

rigid knoll Dec 2, 2016, 4:55 PM

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@!

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@! Haha how do I tag you. Glad to know we exist around here

plucky hatch Dec 2, 2016, 4:57 PM

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Hint: click on a user's profile and note their "true" user name. In !'s case "Joviex#8921"

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that is how you can tag someone with an unusual name

kindred mason Dec 2, 2016, 5:34 PM

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@rigid knoll There are actually quite a few of us who have that type of experience, especially through school.

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So, don't fret, they are out there.

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You can also ping @mild geyser

mild geyser Dec 2, 2016, 5:40 PM

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what's up?

rigid knoll Dec 3, 2016, 4:36 AM

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Thanks @plucky hatch and @kindred mason!

kindred mason Dec 3, 2016, 4:38 AM

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huh @rigid knoll ?

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Oh

bleak saffron Dec 4, 2016, 4:46 PM

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Yow

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@solar abyss yes I do

solar abyss Dec 4, 2016, 4:48 PM

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I wont be able to help you with that. But for others you should describe what all you want from them

bleak saffron Dec 4, 2016, 4:48 PM

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I would want we're so the player spawns in a house then he walks across the road and there's a mother house with a Ai in it and has to like find the basement or something

solar abyss Dec 4, 2016, 4:49 PM

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So, you want someone to make a house for you.

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With all the assets

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and house scripting as well? Turning knobs, opening/closing doors?

meager gull Dec 4, 2016, 4:50 PM

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Sounds like a pretty small map?

bleak saffron Dec 4, 2016, 4:53 PM

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ya

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@solar abyss ya

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hi my name is max and im looking for map developers i was wanting to hire some people to make me a map like this for my game

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📎 th27LR5UYR.jpg

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just pm me and ill talk to u soon 😃

nimble halo Dec 4, 2016, 5:54 PM

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@bleak saffron I recommend going by the format. Check the pinned messages! 😃

bleak saffron Dec 4, 2016, 5:54 PM

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?

final hazel Dec 4, 2016, 10:41 PM

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@bleak saffron look in the pins

bleak saffron Dec 4, 2016, 11:03 PM

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what do u guys mean bu the pins?

topaz rivet Dec 4, 2016, 11:09 PM

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check top right corner, click on pin

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@bleak saffron

bleak saffron Dec 4, 2016, 11:13 PM

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ow ok thanks

kindred mason Dec 4, 2016, 11:33 PM

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Anyway, not sure if other people got randomly PMed by ExplodingC on here.

I think you may have confused him @nimble halo when you redirected him to the pins to look for help.

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@final hazel @topaz rivet probably didn't help much either

nimble halo Dec 4, 2016, 11:34 PM

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What I meant to say to @bleak saffron is that he should look at the format to write for his request, so it would get pinned, and have more visibility, if the chat would be used.
Basically, use [paid] [unpaid] [contract] etc for hiring people to do a job for you, ExplodingC. 😃 Thanks for replying, @kindred mason

kindred mason Dec 4, 2016, 11:36 PM

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Well, I got blindsided by his request for help, and was like wtf and then I looked on here and figured out what probably caused the random PM.

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Also, those Categories need to be in BOLD

nimble halo Dec 5, 2016, 12:26 AM

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Yeah yeah, but didn't wanna risk them being bolded, and pinned 🤣

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@bleak saffron the @everyone doesn't work, and you should put ****** before the [, and after the ]. So it should look like []

kindred mason Dec 5, 2016, 12:41 AM

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It doesn't work post msg

bleak saffron Dec 5, 2016, 12:41 AM

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hmm

kindred mason Dec 5, 2016, 12:41 AM

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You have to resubmit

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with the * * together

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test

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poop

bleak saffron Dec 5, 2016, 12:41 AM

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**test

kindred mason Dec 5, 2016, 12:41 AM

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interesting

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didn't know three of them did bold AND italic

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you need to put two of them in front and at the end

bleak saffron Dec 5, 2016, 12:42 AM

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how do u make bold things?

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ow

kindred mason Dec 5, 2016, 12:42 AM

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two stars

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two asterisks

nimble halo Dec 5, 2016, 12:42 AM

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two of the stars at the beginning, and two at the front.

kindred mason Dec 5, 2016, 12:42 AM

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whatever you want to call them

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Shift-8ers

bleak saffron Dec 5, 2016, 12:42 AM

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thanks

nimble halo Dec 5, 2016, 1:19 AM

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@bleak saffron Resubmitting means to delete, and re-add the message, sweetie. 😃

bleak saffron Dec 5, 2016, 1:20 AM

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ow lol

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[PAID] I am looking for developers to help me out on a project that I was always wanted to work on but can't because I'm not that skilled but instead I am looking for developers like a level designer or artist and more. These jobs will be paid but u don't have to work all day u can work at a time that ur free and weal figure out a price for that. If u would like further information about this project @everyone please DM me for information about the game. Thanks 😃

kindred mason Dec 5, 2016, 1:22 AM

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I'm so confused...

digital gate Dec 5, 2016, 2:10 AM

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Copy this "**[PAID]** I am looking for developers to help me out on a project that I was always wanted to work on but can't because I'm not that skilled but instead I am looking for developers like a level designer or artist and more. These jobs will be paid but u don't have to work all day u can work at a time that ur free and weal figure out a price for that. If u would like further information about this project @everyone please DM me for information about the game. Thanks :smiley:"

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Remove qoutes ' " '

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Paste below

nimble halo Dec 5, 2016, 1:24 PM

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Purge

arctic sage Dec 5, 2016, 4:51 PM

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Job related question: All of you guys seem rather interestingly knowleable within the video game development and relating industries; for an indie, or well established, all the way up to AAA, for what role, and when is a university degree in a relevent major required? What are your experiences with this? And what are your thoughts on this topic?

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I'm trying to obtain a better understanding of the terrain of the industry.

digital gate Dec 5, 2016, 4:52 PM

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You will always have an edge with a degree in comparison to someone otherwise equivalent to you except without one.

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However, at the low end you can get by on skill alone. And if you have a portfolio it can be more valuable than a degree.

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My $0.02

lilac walrus Dec 5, 2016, 4:53 PM

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Portfolios are almost always more valuable than a degree

nimble halo Dec 5, 2016, 4:58 PM

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What @lilac walrus said.
Portfolios show skill, and experience, while a degree is just that you know it.

digital gate Dec 5, 2016, 4:59 PM

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Well, maybe it's just me then. Maybe my portfolio is just terrible.

nimble halo Dec 5, 2016, 5:00 PM

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I liked it.

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Idk, maybe you should add a description of what you did to these things? v.v

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(Not in video)

digital gate Dec 5, 2016, 5:09 PM

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I'm planning to do more content like what I linked you, specifically.

nimble halo Dec 5, 2016, 5:14 PM

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Yeah, that was incredibly informative, and I caught the gist of it all. Your documentation of activities done is very extensive, and definitely more recognizable.

kindred mason Dec 5, 2016, 5:20 PM

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So, it depends a lot on where you go, just like recently, there is a very nice little spot for a UE4 Lead Dev up in NJ, it pays pretty damn well. Requires a 4-year degree however.

digital gate Dec 5, 2016, 5:20 PM

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Requires a 4-year degree however. This is moreso what I meant.

kindred mason Dec 5, 2016, 5:20 PM

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They want EXPERIENCE and DEGREE

digital gate Dec 5, 2016, 5:20 PM

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Maybe I just read it wrong, but it's like they won't even look at anything else.

kindred mason Dec 5, 2016, 5:21 PM

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Right, because there is a reason people require degrees

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It means you suffered through 4 years of something a bit extra in life that most others do not...

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AND you completed it.

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That last part is probably one of most important parts for an employer

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It means you were able to tough it out and complete it, through whatever BS obstacles got in the way.

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A degree after all at the end of the day is just a piece of paper

digital gate Dec 5, 2016, 5:22 PM

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If I could do so without taking on a large amount of debt, I'd pursue some type of degree.

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For whatever reason, I get hung up on that.

kindred mason Dec 5, 2016, 5:23 PM

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You have to think about it this way @digital gate @arctic sage and the rest

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The debt part, sure it sucks.

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But, if you think of it as an investment...

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It no longer does. Let's say you racked up 100K in school debt.

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72k a year...

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Let's say you can only use 25k of that 72k/year job to pay debt

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You're debt free again in 4 years.

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Plus making some bank, because you probably got promoted by now.

digital gate Dec 5, 2016, 5:25 PM

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Eh, I'm still young. I'd actually still be in school if I went.

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You aren't the first to frame it that way, but you make a good point.

lilac walrus Dec 5, 2016, 5:29 PM

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generally speaking, if a game development company requires a degree, it demonstrates that they don't know much about the games industry.

kindred mason Dec 5, 2016, 5:30 PM

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@lilac walrus that's not true

lilac walrus Dec 5, 2016, 5:30 PM

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I mean, whilst relevant degrees are starting to appear over the last few years, most of them are generally pretty poor indicators of someone's actual ability

kindred mason Dec 5, 2016, 5:30 PM

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While I see why you would think so

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Require the skills and degree are not that much to ask for.

lilac walrus Dec 5, 2016, 5:30 PM

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because the requirements for passing said courses are usually fairly low and broad

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whereas positions at studios require a high level of skill in a more narrow field than is taught

kindred mason Dec 5, 2016, 5:31 PM

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If some newb Marine can get through 4 years of some art school, pretty sure there are some more smartypants that can do it.

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I guess that's just my take on that.

digital gate Dec 5, 2016, 5:31 PM

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See, that's the point though.

nimble halo Dec 5, 2016, 5:32 PM

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@digital gate +1

lilac walrus Dec 5, 2016, 5:32 PM

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a lot of companies will throw CVs with game design degrees in the bin

kindred mason Dec 5, 2016, 5:32 PM

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If a degree was the only requirement, than I would agree with you @lilac walrus

lilac walrus Dec 5, 2016, 5:32 PM

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because it demonstrates you're willing to throw away 3 years and a lot of money into something that is largely worthless

kindred mason Dec 5, 2016, 5:32 PM

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But, if a solid portfolio and degree were required, that's just Upping the ante

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They want someone they know can be committed in the long run.

lilac walrus Dec 5, 2016, 5:33 PM

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Portfolio pieces demonstrate long term commitment just fine

kindred mason Dec 5, 2016, 5:33 PM

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But that's just your opinion that a degree = "largely worthless"

digital gate Dec 5, 2016, 5:33 PM

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I'm trying to comfort myself that a game studio would rather take someone who grew their own skill rather than be "walked through"

lilac walrus Dec 5, 2016, 5:34 PM

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if you can sit down and work on something in your spare time for a year or more, that's a commitment

kindred mason Dec 5, 2016, 5:34 PM

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If I JUST hadn't run into this issue, I would probably have conceded this point by now.

digital gate Dec 5, 2016, 5:34 PM

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Well, let's be fair.

lilac walrus Dec 5, 2016, 5:34 PM

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it's more of a commitment than just turning up to a school and going through the motions

digital gate Dec 5, 2016, 5:34 PM

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That's not exactly a game company.

kindred mason Dec 5, 2016, 5:34 PM

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True

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Were we only talking about game studios?

digital gate Dec 5, 2016, 5:34 PM

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Iunno

kindred mason Dec 5, 2016, 5:34 PM

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Me neither

lilac walrus Dec 5, 2016, 5:34 PM

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I said 'game development company'

digital gate Dec 5, 2016, 5:35 PM

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We're just rambling on if a degree is worth it

kindred mason Dec 5, 2016, 5:35 PM

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But if were are, regardless

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In the future, this may be a thing

lilac walrus Dec 5, 2016, 5:35 PM

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it'll only become a thing if the degrees start being worth taking

kindred mason Dec 5, 2016, 5:35 PM

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Right so, technically, that little company up there can be defined as a Game Dev Company

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They did some Unity work