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random ginkgo May 13, 2020, 4:58 PM

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silk lintel May 13, 2020, 4:58 PM

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lol

hexed dagger May 13, 2020, 4:58 PM

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when is unreal engine 5 gonna release?

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what's the date

plush yew May 13, 2020, 4:58 PM

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The LODs are apparently dynamic now or something

nova shoal May 13, 2020, 4:58 PM

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2021

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 4:58 PM

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2021

silk lintel May 13, 2020, 4:58 PM

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2021

heady moon May 13, 2020, 4:58 PM

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2021

wild kestrel May 13, 2020, 4:58 PM

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2021? ;p

weary hull May 13, 2020, 4:59 PM

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late 2021

rocky radish May 13, 2020, 4:59 PM

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20211

hexed dagger May 13, 2020, 4:59 PM

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2021? sad

loud valve May 13, 2020, 4:59 PM

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We’re designing for forward compatibility, so you can get started with next-gen development now in UE4 and move your projects to UE5 when ready.

silk lintel May 13, 2020, 4:59 PM

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no more specific

heady moon May 13, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Q2 2021 preview, Q4 2021 release

nova shoal May 13, 2020, 4:59 PM

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that means their using something like sparse voxel trees to do their rendering

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AMAZING

wild kestrel May 13, 2020, 4:59 PM

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my bet is GDC time relese ;p

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Im okay with, gives me time to prep and study

plush yew May 13, 2020, 4:59 PM

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I would assume that this console generation is going to transition art budgets for games from "max polys per object" to "min polygon density per unit" and I can't wait

silk lintel May 13, 2020, 4:59 PM

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fuckin lumen and nanite, worth the wait x 10000

loud valve May 13, 2020, 4:59 PM

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This is what they said about working now in ue4 and moving to 5:
*We’re designing for forward compatibility, so you can get started with next-gen development now in UE4 and move your projects to UE5 when ready. *

uncut vigil May 13, 2020, 4:59 PM

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what the hell, I haven't made a single game in UE4 and 5 is coming out already?? 😫

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:00 PM

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@uncut vigil I know right lol

blissful trail May 13, 2020, 5:00 PM

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So ue5 is a thing

silk lintel May 13, 2020, 5:00 PM

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yup

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Thanks fortnite players for fronting the bills

blissful trail May 13, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Epic

loud valve May 13, 2020, 5:00 PM

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yep hahaha

silk lintel May 13, 2020, 5:00 PM

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lol

blissful trail May 13, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Xd

honest vale May 13, 2020, 5:00 PM

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@plush yew you're free to use C++ for networking stuff 🤔

wild kestrel May 13, 2020, 5:00 PM

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i mean it obviues UE5 is upgrade of UE4 considering how UE4 is devloped

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:00 PM

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I want a new scripting language so the head of our department can go with UE5 instead of fucking Unity for our games

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fortnite players should be pleased they have a game like that to play in the first place - the 2000s had nothing like it

drifting ocean May 13, 2020, 5:00 PM

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*Fortnite players parents

grave spruce May 13, 2020, 5:00 PM

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i havent finish a game even i make like 12 games

silk lintel May 13, 2020, 5:00 PM

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ugh i hate to give fortnite credit but...

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:00 PM

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it was all shooters aimed for adults back when i was a kid in the 2000s

hybrid scroll May 13, 2020, 5:01 PM

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@uncut vigil UE4 was out since 2014.. time flies, 6 years already

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:01 PM

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@plush yew Idk ue4 really isnt an mmo engine, I've been using ue4 since closed beta, and i never seen anything in the engine code that would make me think, mmos

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I wonder if I would have to finally upgrade my PC

wild kestrel May 13, 2020, 5:01 PM

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@plush yew there is replication :> if you want something else then you free tto code it

stable ridge May 13, 2020, 5:01 PM

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@loud valve I hope switching from UE4 to UE5 is easy...but I also remember that I need to fix a bunch of crap every time I switch from UE4 to UE4 already....so when I read "when you are ready" I understand "when you have 3 weeks of debugging planned" :p

uncut vigil May 13, 2020, 5:01 PM

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@hybrid scroll haha yeah, I remember buying 2 months of subscription before good guys Epic gave the refunds

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Replication works perfectly fine, you just need to know how to work it they way to need it in an mmo setting

hybrid scroll May 13, 2020, 5:02 PM

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lol

loud valve May 13, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Yeah they also cover that now. Free lobbie servers etc

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Which allot of time, is goingtobe a major hasstle

hybrid scroll May 13, 2020, 5:02 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreal_Engine#Unreal_Engine_5

Unreal Engine

The Unreal Engine is a game engine developed by Epic Games, first showcased in the 1998 first-person shooter game Unreal. Although initially developed for first-person shooters, it has been successfully used in a variety of other genres, including platformers, fighting games, ...

honest vale May 13, 2020, 5:02 PM

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there is a new replication system tho, a push based system

hexed dagger May 13, 2020, 5:02 PM

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can't wait for UE5

hybrid scroll May 13, 2020, 5:02 PM

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People on the wikipedia

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:02 PM

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dynamic lighting... better performance allowing for more polygons and destruction even from Zbrush in massive environments... ON PS5!!!?!??!?!

hybrid scroll May 13, 2020, 5:02 PM

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are f-ing fast

silk lintel May 13, 2020, 5:02 PM

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id appreciate less clutter in the pre-built systems, like character movement component, and more support for postprocess materials

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:03 PM

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^

honest vale May 13, 2020, 5:03 PM

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@plush yew not probably comparable but there's this https://github.com/EpicGames/UnrealEngine/blob/release/Engine/Source/Runtime/Net/Core/Public/Net/Core/PushModel/PushModel.h

silk lintel May 13, 2020, 5:03 PM

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yeah

half panther May 13, 2020, 5:03 PM

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how similar do you think will ue5 to ue4?

still moat May 13, 2020, 5:03 PM

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https://youtu.be/jSJr3dXZfcg?t=200

This is what its gonna be like using UE5

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misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:03 PM

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pretty similar

loud valve May 13, 2020, 5:03 PM

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@loud valve I hope switching from UE4 to UE5 is easy...but I also remember that I need to fix a bunch of crap every time I switch from UE4 to UE4 already....so when I read "when you are ready" I understand "when you have 3 weeks of debugging planned" :p
@stable ridge
Very true, I feel the same about that.. it's not going to work out of the box.. Curious how they are going to help us on that part. Maybe like with legacy stuff they will tell is how it is replaced and link a tutorial how to set up the new way. But that would be allot of work for them.

faint cedar May 13, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Even if we for a second assume that all what they've shown is true

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:03 PM

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maybe theyll make things less intimidating first glance

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put more basic options first, then the more advanced ones a bit later

hybrid scroll May 13, 2020, 5:03 PM

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@faint cedar true? yeah. Best case scenario? Probably 🙂

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They arent going to do the demo to show off bugs 😛

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:04 PM

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imagine it could break some really-hacky systems but built-in systems will probably be okay for the most part

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I imagine ue5 will*

blissful trail May 13, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Vr will look amazing

frail sail May 13, 2020, 5:04 PM

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UE10 when?

half panther May 13, 2020, 5:04 PM

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a few hours ago, i was pretty motivated to make progress at learning ue4. now, its rather the opposite. :/

jolly slate May 13, 2020, 5:04 PM

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I'm curious how this will handle paper2D, seems like this rendering system will mostly throw that stuff out the window.

blissful trail May 13, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Xd

loud valve May 13, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Yesterday I thought it would be cool if you could have "layers" in blueprints (child BP is now the closest to that) but then for adding things like achievements within your code (to detect the right actions) it will be nice to only show the Achievements code layer.

real wasp May 13, 2020, 5:05 PM

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https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/1260589926497701889?s=19

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hybrid scroll May 13, 2020, 5:05 PM

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@half panther almost anything you learn will be useful

gleaming narwhal May 13, 2020, 5:05 PM

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@half panther The skills will be useful in 5

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:05 PM

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With unreal engine 5 do we need to add another A to triple A?

full hatch May 13, 2020, 5:05 PM

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AAAA bay beee

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:05 PM

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@half panther Youd be a fool to stop. THe likelihood of much of UE4 knowledge is going to be usable in UE5

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is very high

silk lintel May 13, 2020, 5:05 PM

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god and i thought the megascans partnership was a leap

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yeah they arent rebuilding everything

grim ore May 13, 2020, 5:06 PM

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with the fact that UE4 -> 5 is being planned.......... something makes me think that knowing UE4 might be a good thing 🙂

loud valve May 13, 2020, 5:06 PM

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yeah smart move

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:06 PM

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What we need is a rework of how C++ works in UE and a text based scripting system, which is why I believe that Epic jumped ship so quickly on UE4

hybrid scroll May 13, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Workflow for graphics will change, but this says nothing about coding actual gameplay.

serene birch May 13, 2020, 5:06 PM

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I guess the point of UE4 is if you make a game that needs the "older" rendering methods you can stick to it

digital badger May 13, 2020, 5:06 PM

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I hope this news includes high poly landscapes. Our even Voxel landscapes for UE5

serene birch May 13, 2020, 5:07 PM

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there's no real reason to make the two engines coexist else

drifting ocean May 13, 2020, 5:07 PM

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With it being forward compatible it's likely "Just" UE4 with new rendering and lighting

hearty cosmos May 13, 2020, 5:07 PM

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ALL HAIL FORTNITE MONEY

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:07 PM

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@half panther you can put your UE4 project into UE5 simply they said that in the demo so ROCK ON!

drifting ocean May 13, 2020, 5:07 PM

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so presumably workflow will be more or less the same

half panther May 13, 2020, 5:07 PM

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voxels would be great, but id doubt the will come. they would have said so, i guess

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:07 PM

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UE5 is a rewritten engine?

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Its not quite like it was when we moved from UDK/UE3 to UE4, where that engine literally couldn't handle more. ANd it seems like they've learned from that here by creating the engine in a mostly open and modular nature

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:07 PM

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@half panther same

silk lintel May 13, 2020, 5:07 PM

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@plush yew no

brisk osprey May 13, 2020, 5:07 PM

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What a time to be alive people!

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:07 PM

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smooth slopes

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:07 PM

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UE5 is likely just going the biggest UE4 update

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:07 PM

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proper destruction like teardown

silk lintel May 13, 2020, 5:07 PM

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dont thinks so, at least not for chaos + niagra and dependencies

ornate bobcat May 13, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Common sight in UE5...

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half panther May 13, 2020, 5:08 PM

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thanks for your kind answers btw c:

silk lintel May 13, 2020, 5:08 PM

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lol

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:08 PM

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I just want a goddamn native fixed physics framestep

full hatch May 13, 2020, 5:08 PM

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I'm just wondering about blueprints and coding if anything else in UE5

silk lintel May 13, 2020, 5:08 PM

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time to save up just got a new pc lol uhhhhhg

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Im lazy and dont wanna do it

blissful trail May 13, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Im assuming it will be a while until we can use it tho

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:08 PM

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@ornate bobcat just hook ten PS5s up to it

bitter iris May 13, 2020, 5:08 PM

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id like to know what youre doing to get that 4 quadtrillion shaders

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😄

wild kestrel May 13, 2020, 5:08 PM

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@silk lintel they wont start from ziro if they replaces something is most likely just RHI

silk lintel May 13, 2020, 5:08 PM

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yeah

snow jungle May 13, 2020, 5:08 PM

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the people at epic games are truly amazing and kind

still moat May 13, 2020, 5:08 PM

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UE5 or Frostbite 3 🤔 ?

oblique sorrel May 13, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Man, I saw someone link to the file in Engine/Source/Runtime/Net/Core/Public/Net/Core and I got needlessly excited that UE5 will support .NET Core 🤣

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:09 PM

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@sour lily when I clear my DDC and rebuild, I'm usually creepiong on 200k shaders for my curent project

bitter iris May 13, 2020, 5:09 PM

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wrong me but lol

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200k is a lot

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:09 PM

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@ornate bobcat thats when you know we need a new graphics system

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from pixels to polygons

stable ridge May 13, 2020, 5:09 PM

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200k wtf lol. Too much marketplace asset packs bro

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:09 PM

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what else now

bitter iris May 13, 2020, 5:09 PM

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cant remember the last time i compiled shaders 😄

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:09 PM

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atoms

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:09 PM

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UE5 top engine now

wooden cosmos May 13, 2020, 5:09 PM

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hybrid shale May 13, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Just throw a realistic landscape market place item into a clean UE4 project and it's 93,000 shaders for me 😐

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:09 PM

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WE NEED SOMETHING

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atoms

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voxels

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SOMETHING

wooden cosmos May 13, 2020, 5:10 PM

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ВАУ Я В ШОКЕ!

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sorry

calm crow May 13, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Just thank you UE5

wooden cosmos May 13, 2020, 5:10 PM

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misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:10 PM

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@plush yew amd rx580 small overclock BOOM

calm crow May 13, 2020, 5:10 PM

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can we have a leak of the UI of ue5 ?

bitter iris May 13, 2020, 5:10 PM

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So will UE5 be stable? or another wait until UE6? lol

blissful trail May 13, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Early 2021 oooh

karmic mason May 13, 2020, 5:10 PM

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https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/faq - rev share 1 million? Related to UE4 or UE5 now????

Unreal Engine

Unreal Engine | Frequently Asked Questions

Unreal Engine is the world’s most open and advanced real-time 3D creation platform for photoreal visuals and immersive experiences.

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:10 PM

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will a new form of graphics be made?

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:10 PM

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@sour lily I use a custom shader network that allows enormous performance gains by creating extra permuations but lose no fidelty

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:10 PM

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I think both?

still moat May 13, 2020, 5:10 PM

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I love how he just has that lamp in the back

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wicked sparrow May 13, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Both from Jan 1st 2020

karmic mason May 13, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Sweeney, what a LEGEND

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:11 PM

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epic lamp

wicked sparrow May 13, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Retroactively applied to developers from Jan

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:11 PM

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@still moat I was staring at the whole time tbh XD

silk lintel May 13, 2020, 5:11 PM

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HOLY SHIT

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 5:11 PM

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https://i.gyazo.com/883a2112507a567159e7fcee71cb0948.gif animated lamp for your pleasures

silk lintel May 13, 2020, 5:11 PM

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royalties waived for first $1 mil in game revenue retroactive!

tawdry python May 13, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Also that new royalties policy
Like dang. The first $1 million waived.
@pure cliff AND EPIC ONLINE SERVICES

real wasp May 13, 2020, 5:11 PM

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HOW MANY POLYS IS THAT LAMP?

hybrid scroll May 13, 2020, 5:12 PM

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@real wasp ALL OF THEM!

real wasp May 13, 2020, 5:12 PM

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LOL

warm ruin May 13, 2020, 5:12 PM

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https://i.gyazo.com/883a2112507a567159e7fcee71cb0948.gif animated lamp for your pleasures
@fierce tulip gonna be my pfp😎

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:12 PM

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@real wasp 500 billion atoms

still moat May 13, 2020, 5:12 PM

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The lamp supports Global illumination

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Its fully dynamic

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:12 PM

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wtf is that room setup HAHAHA

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the room of a possible genius?

honest vale May 13, 2020, 5:13 PM

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we're gonna need a deal with it black sunglasses drop in version of that

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 5:13 PM

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@plush yew you never saw the mtv-cribs of tim's house?

uncut vigil May 13, 2020, 5:13 PM

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How am i supposed to directly texture zbrush models now? Substance painter cant handle that 😩

grim ore May 13, 2020, 5:13 PM

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for f*cks sake. You cannot rewatch the summer game fest video anymore it was copyright claimed and taken down

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W T F

spare kernel May 13, 2020, 5:13 PM

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so UE5.. but they can't make UE4 stable

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did they just give up?

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😄

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like that code base is f**cked

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Is that actually a thing Luos?

spare kernel May 13, 2020, 5:14 PM

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lets move on

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 5:14 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRGUKMKadJ8

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yea

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:14 PM

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HAHAHAHAHA

thorn violet May 13, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Probably @spare kernel

forest tree May 13, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Ohhhhh

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hahahahaahaha

thorn violet May 13, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Sometimes it's easier to take the "good" parts and make the rest from scratch 😄

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Chaos, Niagara, etc. all moving over to UE5

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:14 PM

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@fierce tulip gonna be my pfp😎
@warm ruin for a man with so much money, I like his subtle room

warm ruin May 13, 2020, 5:15 PM

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@warm ruin for a man with so much money, I like his subtle room
@plush yew really tho

wicked sparrow May 13, 2020, 5:15 PM

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What gives people the impression this engine is from scratch? It seems to me that they're just building on-top of UE4 with enough tech to call it UE5 for marketing purposes.

lone tapir May 13, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Well, Today is not a good day for the Unity team! unreal 🤯 😍

manic ember May 13, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Is there a mod around? I want to redo my post in LFT, but the pinned message doesn't say how to remove the old one

misty owl May 13, 2020, 5:16 PM

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I've now seen Tim Sweeney climb a tree.

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:16 PM

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@bitter iris This is my master material network. Instructions ranges from 140 instructions to ~450 with average being 200-250. While maintain all fidelty required

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@bitter iris

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warm ruin May 13, 2020, 5:16 PM

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seems legit 😎

What gives people the impression this engine is from scratch? It seems to me that they're just building on-top of UE4 with enough tech to call it UE5 for marketing purposes.
@wicked sparrow

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:16 PM

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@bitter iris

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fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 5:17 PM

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@fervent nacelle you might want to throw it trough the material analyzer and remove redundant mutations

forest tree May 13, 2020, 5:17 PM

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I agree @wicked sparrow, but it's a big jump in tech

still moat May 13, 2020, 5:17 PM

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haha node wires go weeee

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fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:17 PM

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@fierce tulip I plan to after I get all the environment stuff set up, so I dont have to worry about it later on again

trim trail May 13, 2020, 5:17 PM

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yeah, im wondering how much ue5 is going to be different from ue4, i was bit suprised they already announced ue5, at first i thought they typo'd with ps5

devout gulch May 13, 2020, 5:18 PM

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it's not

wicked sparrow May 13, 2020, 5:18 PM

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It's a big jump in tech but not enough to need to rewrite 90% of the engine

thorn violet May 13, 2020, 5:18 PM

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They seem to have rebuilt several core systems, but of course they'll re-use the parts that are still good (80-90% of engine?)

devout gulch May 13, 2020, 5:18 PM

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the engine is modular

forest tree May 13, 2020, 5:18 PM

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I don't think they will, indeed @wicked sparrow

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Seriously though. To the team at Epic that is reading the chat right now, I want to say thank you for all the opportunities you guys have given me. I began doing game development with UE4 back when it first released publicly in late 2015, and now almost 5 years later you guys made my dream come true by pretty much kickstarting my career in CGI and game art. I can't wait to use Unreal Engine 5 to create the next gen games and any film projects that are thrown my way. Its been a blessing ❤️

devout gulch May 13, 2020, 5:18 PM

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things that changed you are likely never touched

trim trail May 13, 2020, 5:18 PM

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but then again, the huge financial boost from fortnite might make leaning toward heavy code rewrite

devout gulch May 13, 2020, 5:18 PM

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game framework will stay here

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there will be ECS

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Chaos will be similiar

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:18 PM

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has Tim Sweeny lost his mind announcing UE5 at a time when UE4 is making so much money and when UE4 is already ahead of the competition? It doesn't seem like a smart business move showing the competition what they have been working on 1 year before release.

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:18 PM

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@fierce tulip The material still performs universally more efficiently the any of the paragon materials, so until I got closer to finalization of my current project, I leave it is, because I may need to further build on it

devout gulch May 13, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Niagara too

drifting ocean May 13, 2020, 5:18 PM

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4.25 is already very different from the first public releases

lucid magnet May 13, 2020, 5:19 PM

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so is there anyway i can detect if my input is being held or just pressed? - i cant figure it out

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manic ember May 13, 2020, 5:19 PM

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@fierce tulip Are you able to help me delete my LFT post? I want to make a more detailed one

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 5:19 PM

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one sec

wicked sparrow May 13, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Exactly, 4.25 compared to 4.0 is lightyears apart. UE5 is just a representation of the work they've done up until now + this new GI / mesh rendering tech

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That's how I've read it anyway

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 5:19 PM

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@fervent nacelle its more a tool that you can use to see what instances are identical when it comes to static-switches, I better suggest to use it sooner than later to save on instructions and material/memory bloat

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:20 PM

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also now they announced UE5 does it make learning UE4 useless?

wicked sparrow May 13, 2020, 5:20 PM

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@plush yew no

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 5:20 PM

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@manic ember done

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:20 PM

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@fierce tulip ohh yeah, is that in the engine, I'm unfamiliar?

forest tree May 13, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Forward compatibility @plush yew

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 5:20 PM

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yup

manic ember May 13, 2020, 5:20 PM

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thank you

lucid magnet May 13, 2020, 5:20 PM

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?

wicked sparrow May 13, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Just learn how much you hate making LOD meshes and be happy you might not have to in future 😄

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:21 PM

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@forest tree blueprint system is going to remain? Also will UE5 support C# ?

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 5:21 PM

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@wicked sparrow or general baking down from high to low, and then make lods

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yuck

mint raptor May 13, 2020, 5:21 PM

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I wonder if there will be a big editor UI change or not

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probably not eh

thorn violet May 13, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Doubt it

forest tree May 13, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Almost guaranteed yes to the former, no news on the latter but I expect not @plush yew

thorn violet May 13, 2020, 5:21 PM

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It's good UI right now

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 5:21 PM

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im sure Victor and some others are making notes about the UI :p

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:21 PM

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@fierce tulip You mean the optimzation viewport mode?

trim trail May 13, 2020, 5:22 PM

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yeah, ui is pretty strong part of ue

wicked sparrow May 13, 2020, 5:22 PM

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It's mostly art pipeline changes so far. It's impressive don't get me wrong, it's just not a 'NEW ENGINE' as such, more of a step up from UE4.

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 5:22 PM

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@fervent nacelle one sec

stable ridge May 13, 2020, 5:22 PM

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I kinda like the UI...

real wasp May 13, 2020, 5:22 PM

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the only UI change I want is to be able to LOCK TABS

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:22 PM

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seems very odd if they don't support C# considering new upcoming engines like Unigine are support both C++ and C# off the bat

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:22 PM

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@fierce tulip sure, no rush, I apprecaite the assist

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 5:22 PM

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@fervent nacelle Material analyzer (Window > Developer Tools > Material analyzer)

forest tree May 13, 2020, 5:22 PM

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I'd love it too @plush yew

wicked sparrow May 13, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Unigine isn't really new

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 5:22 PM

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and if you want some more info
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-guvLUfwk7fcVOuHCTEehJWf7i6AoDoU65jIKwSIG6Q/edit#

Google Docs

UE4 Texture/Material/Cascade optimization tips - By Luos

UE4 Texture/Material/Cascade optimization tips By: Yoeri - Luos_83 - Vleer Tiny foreword: Hello fellow (UE4/Real-Time VFX) artists!Yoeri - Luos_83 - Vleer here :)Over the past many years I have gathered quite a lot of information regarding (b...

snow jungle May 13, 2020, 5:22 PM

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@wicked sparrow i agree, but its still super impressive, we just have to wait to see what else has changed in ue5

marble knot May 13, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Epic is afraid of Microsoft's cooties

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So they'll give us Java instead

drifting ocean May 13, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Seems like it's a brand new rendering engine, but we've kind of already gotten that once with the forward renderer, so probably won't be too crazy to switch over

wicked sparrow May 13, 2020, 5:23 PM

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I don't think the entire rendering engine has been replaced

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:23 PM

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would be sweet if they could change it significantly though i guess

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but if not it would at least be great to maintain that performance and graphics

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:23 PM

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@plush yew why would they? Unity isn't even a C# engine. It uses an on the fly inerpreter to convert the input C# into compatabile C++. I get lowering the barrier to entry, but I fell like BPs have done a decent job of that

stable ridge May 13, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Part of me want them to implement better 2D games support and C#...but deep inside I know taking the monopoly of a market isn't always good for the customers...

marble knot May 13, 2020, 5:24 PM

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That is not at all what Unity does

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:24 PM

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@fierce tulip THanks I'm gonna take a look at it now

marble knot May 13, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Unity runs C# code natively

heady moon May 13, 2020, 5:25 PM

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C# and C++ is literally the worst combination you'd think of

mint raptor May 13, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Unity had Unityscript but last I heard they were getting rid of that for just one language

still moat May 13, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Where did it say that UE5 will support c# ?

thorn topaz May 13, 2020, 5:25 PM

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managed and unmanaged code go great together! 😛

mint raptor May 13, 2020, 5:25 PM

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no one said it will

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people wanting it to

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:25 PM

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@marble knot Yeah, I understand that, but the engine itself is built on C++ which means the code needs to be translated to one or the other at some point during trhat process

still moat May 13, 2020, 5:25 PM

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@thorn topaz Perfectly balanced, as all things should be

marble knot May 13, 2020, 5:25 PM

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No it doesn't

thorn topaz May 13, 2020, 5:25 PM

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lol

amber girder May 13, 2020, 5:25 PM

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@fervent nacelle i had some usecases für c#: real class reflection system, not just a mockup, better development cycles (even if i would rewrite it later for speed in c++)

stable ridge May 13, 2020, 5:25 PM

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It doesn't. Just sick of programmers weighting on engine choice because C#

wicked sparrow May 13, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Learning C# after C++ or vice-versa isn't even that difficult, and Blueprints do a good job for those that can't

fathom elm May 13, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Anyone knows where to ask about Virtual Textures?

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Hey guys! Since the 4.25 update my "Editor" windows dissapear and it's greyed out when i try to click on it under the "Window" menu option, is it known how to resolve that ?

normal burrow May 13, 2020, 5:26 PM

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#graphics @fathom elm

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:26 PM

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The real debate is whether UE5 is distinct enough to be a new engine or whether it could have been incorporated into UE4. Considering how every previous Unreal Engine had major changes from the last.

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i think it's mostly a marketing gimmick but i hear they're like completely reworking level streaming for one as well as with the GI thing

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:27 PM

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@amber girder I can understand that aspect, but I'm still not sure if its worth reworking things. The ability might certainly be possible via a plugin I would imagine

fathom elm May 13, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Thanks @normal burrow

normal fiber May 13, 2020, 5:27 PM

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If only they would get better replicated physics system working 😛

normal burrow May 13, 2020, 5:27 PM

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C# sucks though

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:27 PM

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if it's just a marketing gimmick then it's not a good look for Epic

wicked sparrow May 13, 2020, 5:27 PM

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It could have been integrated into 'UE4' but it's better for marketing if it's a 'new engine'. Unreal Engine is just a flexible engine now and doesn't really have definitive 'versions' anymore.

marble knot May 13, 2020, 5:27 PM

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At least it doesn't suck as badly as C++

amber girder May 13, 2020, 5:27 PM

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@fervent nacelle usharp is/was a good start (didnt look at it lately, busy with work)

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Tim Sweeney doesn't strike me as a man for marketing gimmicks

stable ridge May 13, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Lots of programmers scared of C++ on this planet unfortunately...

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 5:27 PM

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k, no C# vs cpp vs arnoldpp pelase

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its neverending

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:27 PM

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@fierce tulip fair

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:28 PM

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i envy someone who can program in c++ but this is getting personal if i elaborated

serene birch May 13, 2020, 5:28 PM

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modern C++ doesn't really have much missing compared to C#

normal fiber May 13, 2020, 5:28 PM

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c# is for noobs

serene birch May 13, 2020, 5:28 PM

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maybe some faster compile time 😄

thorn violet May 13, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Maybe UE5 will have support for that new scripting language that Tim keeps tweeting about every now and then, lol

marble knot May 13, 2020, 5:28 PM

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C++ isn't hard to program in, it's just a garbage tier language

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:28 PM

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but what about stylized vs photorealistic? I mean, if we bout to stiur the pot

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:28 PM

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@wicked sparrow if it could have been integrated into UE4 then they should just make UE4 perpetual like Windows 10 instead of announcing a new engine

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@marble knot Said no one ever

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i prefer photorealistic but stylized isn't bad

marble knot May 13, 2020, 5:29 PM

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C++ fanatics just pretend it's hard to program in because they derive their self-worth from being Good at C++ and they have an obsessive need to gatekeep it

grim ore May 13, 2020, 5:29 PM

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@plush yew try going into the editor preferences if you can and disable menu animations

normal burrow May 13, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Moderator literally asked to not go on about it sai

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:29 PM

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I think C++ is just almost needlessly complex as recent versions try to incorporate more modern workflows

wicked sparrow May 13, 2020, 5:29 PM

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@plush yew that's not as good for marketing because they can't 'keep up' with the other engines that number their releases.

normal fiber May 13, 2020, 5:29 PM

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c++ is too complicated for a weeb to understand (a joke chill)

marble knot May 13, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Oops, the chat is going so fast I missed it

worn granite May 13, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Well that's an entertaining strawman but too obvious. Better luck next time @marble knot

amber girder May 13, 2020, 5:30 PM

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i only wish for a good and easy to use library set as i have in c#. i prefer c++ for speed, but c# for iteration time. easy as that

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:30 PM

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OOOMG I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT UE5

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:30 PM

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@marble knot Im a C++ fanatic but i havent met any gatekeepers

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:30 PM

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@plush yew I feel as though its a bit of both. I feel like its going to be more of a engine-scale level of code and systems refactoring, but will function similarly to ue4

digital badger May 13, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Will the Editor UI change with UE5? Or will it just be a big update to UE4, rebranded as someone said previously?

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:30 PM

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hope so

still moat May 13, 2020, 5:30 PM

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You can now download Unity using Quixel! 🤯

📎 SPOILER_unknown.png

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:30 PM

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it may just be too early to tell because i think they will remove a large portion of legacy technologies

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That's really sad, because C++ is the best language there is for performance and maintainability

grave spruce May 13, 2020, 5:30 PM

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👀

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:30 PM

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@digital badger Im guessing somewhere in between

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:30 PM

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won't feel like a new engine if the editor is exactly the same

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:30 PM

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wait, are they rewriting the source?

marble knot May 13, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Nah, if you really care about performance, you write directly in asm

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If you don't, you're just pretending

hollow ore May 13, 2020, 5:30 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20200513-121329_Chrome.jpg

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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soo, we heard about the PS5 thing

still moat May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Asm?

worn granite May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Lmao

still moat May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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go straight to bytecode

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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but will this actually be availble for usable PC builds?

narrow pasture May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Is the editor getting an overhaul?

worn granite May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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this chat is too hilarious 😂

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Am I the only person who doesn't vehemntly hate UE4 UI? Is it amazing? No. still miles better than Zbrush or 3ds max tho

amber girder May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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did that too in 386 times, no biggie

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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@fervent nacelle i find it quite nostalgic. i wish they could change the font though

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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that damn nav cube

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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i read the IGN article and tim sweeney talked about how the PS5's super high throughput SSD makes the demo possible

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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@fervent nacelle as someone who uses max a lot, yes. max ui sucks

digital badger May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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@fervent nacelle I like it, but I'm used to it for like 2/3 years now

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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2011 roboto now rubs me off the wrong way

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Psh, i do think like that @marble knot some of my fourm posts from right after the beta references a bunch of highly performant ASM code i wrote.and the support of ue4 and ASM

hollow ore May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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They changed the royalty structure. Free to use unreal until you generate 1 million $$$

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Works just fine

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and can be illegible in some cases (although thankfully C++ programming is a thing)

digital badger May 13, 2020, 5:32 PM

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@hollow ore And per product as well! 🙂

marble knot May 13, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Yeah, seriously, we need asm scripting asap

narrow pasture May 13, 2020, 5:32 PM

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UE4 UI isn't bad, it's just not as flexible at times

hollow ore May 13, 2020, 5:32 PM

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@digital badger bingo!!!!!!

digital badger May 13, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Whatever even happened to python scripting in UE?

spare sun May 13, 2020, 5:32 PM

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can we have some proper bytecode scripting

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:32 PM

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зига

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:32 PM

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its still there

marble knot May 13, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Nothing happened to it, it's there

honest vale May 13, 2020, 5:32 PM

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https://twitter.com/BrianKaris/status/1260608919044415488

Brian Karis (@BrianKaris)

More tech info will be coming later this week on Nanite, Lumen, how this demo was made. #ue5. Stay tuned.

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fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Yeah, I know max has more advanced modeling tools, but I can't justify that interface. Given I already use five different modeling software packages for different purposes

teal charm May 13, 2020, 5:32 PM

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lol this c# debate XD

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Drop the info already

raven prairie May 13, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Pls tell me i dont have to learn any kind of new blueprint system for UE5

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Probably not

zealous elbow May 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Heard from several people that Lumen is not raytracing-accelerated.
Is that true?

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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@still moat inb4 unity reintroduce version numbering system and announce "Unity 5"

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I released a ue4.24 update to the python build if you cared enough you know about it 💔 @digital badger lol jk

teal charm May 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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ppl don't like c# because it removes options from your hands, ppl like options 😛

digital badger May 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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@urban gyro @marble knot In there as in workable as a replacement for Blueprint. Or workable as in left in but soon to be deleted as it's useless

marble knot May 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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You will, they're replacing blueprints with COBOL scripting by popular demand

normal burrow May 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Redirectors: the question that needs answering.

honest vale May 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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UE 5 should have its own virtual machine and a spec for bytecode. Let us do our own compilers for it 🤔

digital badger May 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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@plush yew I use C++, but I'm talking about new users to the engine.

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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cmon guys, stop living in 1985

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in the modern day we replace everything with javascript

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live in 2020

honest vale May 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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noooo

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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banned

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:p

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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@raven prairie I very much doubt it. NOde-based programming is only rising inpopularioty and adoption, they'd be stupid to drop it now

digital badger May 13, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Brainfuck support when?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck

Brainfuck

Brainfuck is an esoteric programming language created in 1993 by Urban Müller, and is notable for its extreme minimalism.
The language consists of only eight simple commands and an instruction pointer. While it is fully Turing complete, it is not intended for practical use, b...

still moat May 13, 2020, 5:34 PM

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"We are happy to announce that the blueprint system and c++ have been removed in favor of the popular and fast Scratch programming language and the UI system will be completely overhauled with CSS and HTML"

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:34 PM

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@digital badger in there as in useful for prototyping but crap for runtime logic

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:34 PM

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YES finally a language wroth writing good ole COBOL. I made jokes all the time at my last job, to leave and write cobol

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UE5 rendering engine is based on raytracing?

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if anything i dislike how js is pretty much dominating all workflows but i hate it irrationally

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:34 PM

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I want Trumpscript support, to ,please

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:34 PM

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UE5!!!

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if someone has paid more attention than me or my friend who just said "yeeah, I heard that UE5 doesnt have any polygons and normal maps", true?

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:34 PM

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everything in multiples of 10000

zealous elbow May 13, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Pretty sure it's still raster @plush yew

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:34 PM

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wtf

serene birch May 13, 2020, 5:34 PM

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https://twitter.com/BrianKaris/status/1260590413003362305

Brian Karis (@BrianKaris)

Finally, after over a decade of personal research, >3 years of full time work, I am so proud to show my ultimate passion project: virtualized geometry tech we call Nanite coming in #UE5 and a demo using it running real-time on PS5. https://t.co/VboP37zJ8l

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plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:34 PM

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i'm pretty sure there's reasons that more experienced programmers have that's more valid

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:34 PM

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@plush yew probably not true

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just doesnt need the artist to manually mess with it

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i'm sure if you want you still can

teal charm May 13, 2020, 5:34 PM

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16 times the detail

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:35 PM

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🇿🇮🇬🇦

grim ore May 13, 2020, 5:35 PM

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We know that Niagara will be in UE5, we know that Niagara currently uses the existing Blueprint system in UE4. Unless it is a redo of the system and they are going to convert the old BP system to a new one you can probably assume Blueprint in UE4 and 5 will be the same/very similar

misty owl May 13, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Do I buy my punch card reader directly from Epic, or will it be available from third party manufacturers?

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:35 PM

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ziga

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зига

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why on earth would UE5 be based on raster and not raytracing in 2021 seems bonkers

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I'm dying at the emojis on my last message.

still moat May 13, 2020, 5:35 PM

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"Why I switch from unreal engine 5 to the creation engine"

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:35 PM

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because raytracing is too slow

normal burrow May 13, 2020, 5:35 PM

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@plush yew rt is a fad

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:35 PM

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this isn't 2015 anymore

teal charm May 13, 2020, 5:35 PM

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you guys think the detail will go up 16 times?

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:35 PM

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🇬🇴🇻🇳🇴

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GOVNO

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:35 PM

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UE5 will be compatible with UE4 projects so I don't think itll be THAT different

honest vale May 13, 2020, 5:35 PM

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gtx 3000 series will apparently have 4x the raytracing power of gtx 2000 series

zealous elbow May 13, 2020, 5:35 PM

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You do realize how much expensive pathtracing is, right? @plush yew

normal burrow May 13, 2020, 5:35 PM

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We’re not able to sustain the power it takes

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:35 PM

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GPU in 2021 will handle full raytracing just fine

honest vale May 13, 2020, 5:35 PM

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well, rumours say that is

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:35 PM

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@plush yew Someone posted an earlier vid about what I assume is the same or similar technique, and I think those will still be used given the detail. Models seem to retain their inherent characteristics while be interpreted differently by the renderer

zealous elbow May 13, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Pretty sure they won't

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:35 PM

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@honest vale we're still only scratching the surface

normal burrow May 13, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Doubt it

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:36 PM

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at best it'll still be support

still moat May 13, 2020, 5:36 PM

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@plush yew Your wallet won't

digital badger May 13, 2020, 5:36 PM

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"It just works" - Tim Sweeny on UE5 Nanite and Lumen capabilities

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:36 PM

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I just wanna know why it's UE5 and not UE4.2x

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:36 PM

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in fact, it wouldnt' surprise me if a lot of that ray tracing is used for the GI part

shadow marsh May 13, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Is there a tutorial for migrating engine plugins to project plugins, so that my mate can check his bought plugins into git and we can work on the project together? So that I don't need to re-purchase the same plugins.

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Rememeber RTX cards are founders price and to prove to investors, GI and ai /tensor cores are really useful for other things and not just a neiche market.

zealous elbow May 13, 2020, 5:36 PM

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They will handle raytracing effects as an addon to the rasterized renderer, but no full pathtracing

normal burrow May 13, 2020, 5:36 PM

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@plush yew rt is already a mix of raster

honest vale May 13, 2020, 5:36 PM

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@urban gyro marketing + big enough of an upgrade

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:36 PM

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@fierce tulip Hey, what's the word on your RTX lightmass? Is that going to be a part of the whole Nanite thing?

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:36 PM

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@urban gyro maybe as a marketing gimmick or maybe to try and discard legacy workflows for good

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 5:36 PM

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@shadow marsh buddy might need to send you the plugin so you can install it to your engine

zealous elbow May 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Not unless it's something small or something that can benefit from very clever optimizations

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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btw did you all read the IGN article about how a lot of this stuff is possible due to the new super SSDs the PS5 will have?

amber girder May 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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@digital badger i hope the chalkeaters don't have to remake that song

digital badger May 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Does AMD even support Ray tracing at this point? Surely Epic Games wouldn't want to limit RT to only Nvidia consumers?

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Come on, a big update + marketing? that's a bit underwhelming

raven prairie May 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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1 year from now all our pc will be obsolete

snow jungle May 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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I just wanna know why it's UE5 and not UE4.2x
@urban gyro i think with the amount of new rendering and texturing methods it would be too confusing to keep it as UE4.2x or UE4.3x
calling it ue5 removes alot of that confusion

sweet relic May 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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RTX is propritary Nvidia tech

midnight acorn May 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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@honest vale Usually a new major version also means breaking compatibility with some things

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Amd can cpu fight there ray tracing if they wanted with their cpus my god

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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@digital badger I heard they will be with this next coming gen, but its rumor

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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@digital badger from memory, i think AMD was working on something like that yes

shadow marsh May 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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@fierce tulip The plugin must be build into ue4. Do I need to rebuild the engine myself, also?

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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@fervent nacelle im the other luos

normal burrow May 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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@digital badger yes they make both consoles gpus. Their RT seems more strong

zealous elbow May 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Well, there was pathtraced minecraft on xsx, so I'm pretty sure that yes @digital badger

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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in fact, wasn't this being added to directx itself?

twilit hill May 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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ray tracing isnt bound to any GPU, nvidias proprietary tech is just called RTX

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 5:38 PM

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@shadow marsh iunno

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:38 PM

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@fierce tulip Oh im sorry man hahaha

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 5:38 PM

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tis fine, happy the other luos is awesomesauce

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:38 PM

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дурка ебать

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:38 PM

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ok then will UE5 be installed over UE4 then? As in, poping up as a version in the launcher?

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:38 PM

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@plush yew i would be apprehensive - we didn't really hear anything about supporting a huge amount of characters

zealous elbow May 13, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Заткнись блядь, не спамь

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:38 PM

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ок

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Seriously though, AMD CPUS are freaking insane. We need more CPU cores to be utilized better

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:38 PM

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and characters tend to be very expensive

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 5:38 PM

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no russian talk

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:38 PM

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oh def, you guys are great

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 5:38 PM

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please

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:38 PM

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ok

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I think Tim Sweeny should wait until raytracing replaces raster for UE5 instead of releasing a half-cooked cake. New engines are supposed to represent a major leap in technology not small ones.

honest vale May 13, 2020, 5:39 PM

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@plush yew it's just a name

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:39 PM

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this is a major leap in technology though

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:39 PM

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@honest vale no

wicked sparrow May 13, 2020, 5:39 PM

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All of the rock assets in that demo were just added to Quixel. Amazing.
https://quixel.com/megascans/collections?category=environment&category=natural&category=limestone-quarry&utm_campaign=AO - Asset Push&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

Quixel Megascans

Quixel Limestone Quarry

Discover the building blocks of Epic's UE5 demo "Lumen in the Land of Nanite". This unique, highly-detailed collection contains a large set of jagged cliff faces, limestone rocks, quarry outcrops and giant slab formations.

honest vale May 13, 2020, 5:39 PM

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yes, it is

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:39 PM

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no, it not just a name if Epic feel it's enough to release a UE5

sleek spear May 13, 2020, 5:39 PM

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i am trying to change the color of niagara particles from a blueprint. bow can i do it?

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:39 PM

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@plush yew Well, you realize that games usually take a fair amount of time to develop, right? I'm sure by the time things get finished up for most, we'll see much more RT capable hardware being used

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:39 PM

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@plush yew i stand corrected!

teal charm May 13, 2020, 5:40 PM

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@plush yew ultimate epic battle sim made with ue?

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:40 PM

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No doubt a major leap, were talking revolutionary. If a triangle is "often" the size of a pixel, we can safely assume it's a whole new world

teal charm May 13, 2020, 5:40 PM

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i thought thats in unity

raven prairie May 13, 2020, 5:40 PM

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So what about the 3d modeling process, is going to be full zbrush + substance only to make a simple prop like a statue?

sweet relic May 13, 2020, 5:40 PM

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i wouldn't call a 1b+ tri model a basic prop...

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:41 PM

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yeah, ultimate epic battle sim is made with unity

digital badger May 13, 2020, 5:41 PM

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I'm wary of this infinite poly budget. Surely the system must have some drawbacks like capped at 30fps( I never heard them talk about fps in the demo)

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:41 PM

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no more RETOPO

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:41 PM

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i just looked it up

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:41 PM

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@raven prairie we don't substance we quixel

sweet relic May 13, 2020, 5:41 PM

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you can likely model however you

serene birch May 13, 2020, 5:41 PM

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demo is at 30fps

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:41 PM

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@sweet relic What are you smoking and how much?

serene birch May 13, 2020, 5:41 PM

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I don't think there will be such cap

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:41 PM

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are we allowed to post a link here?

serene birch May 13, 2020, 5:41 PM

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intrinsicly

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:41 PM

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i did, but im a rebel

serene birch May 13, 2020, 5:41 PM

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it's always a matter of tradeoffs and frame budgets

hot haven May 13, 2020, 5:41 PM

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@plush yew As much as I love Epic and Quixel partnership Substance Painter is still the bomb at texturing

spare sun May 13, 2020, 5:41 PM

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idk I think you'll still have to be conservative with the tris due to ppl with hdds

digital badger May 13, 2020, 5:41 PM

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@serene birch Did they state 30fps? Or are you basing that of the youtube video?

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:42 PM

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@digital badger i think this is the limitation: https://www.ign.com/articles/ps5-ssd-breakthrough-beats-high-end-pc

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:42 PM

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@hot haven Substance Painter is owned by Adobe, so no thanks.

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I'm more excited about theo nline services announcement

hot haven May 13, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Mixer is trying to get there though. Can't wait to see what they have in store

serene birch May 13, 2020, 5:42 PM

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pretty sure it was mentioned around?

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:42 PM

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no adobe, mixer incoming

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:42 PM

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“This is not just a whole lot of polygons and memory. It’s also a lot of polygons being loaded every frame as you walk around through the environment and this sort of detail you don’t see in the world would absolutely not be possible at any scale without these breakthroughs that Sony’s made.”```

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Remember, the engine is crunch-ing the triangles down, so, your models still have to be reasonable. I mean if you really have a 1billion tri model, and are throwing it around willynilly it better be able to crunch down well.

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:42 PM

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we're talking

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5 gigabytes per second SSD

tender flume May 13, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Told ya bois.

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Yeah, I was thinking about that. I have a hard time believing geo streaming is going to function well on a tradtional HDD or even an oldr SSD

tender flume May 13, 2020, 5:43 PM

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UE5 would happen someday

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:43 PM

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seems like to much data tbh

hot haven May 13, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Fair enough but I'm a dev and I need to get stuff done. I got perptual license for painter and designer before the Adobe acquisition XD. Gonna just keep using those for the time being :p

stable ridge May 13, 2020, 5:43 PM

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I predict UE6 one day.

tender flume May 13, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Haha gl

spare sun May 13, 2020, 5:43 PM

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mixer isnt there yet and its not doing the same things designer does

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:44 PM

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@stable ridge UE7 launches the year you predict it will release UE6 they are too good fam

tender flume May 13, 2020, 5:44 PM

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I said UE5 would happen and people said it was too early!

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:44 PM

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@plush yew UE5 is revolutionary? Please sell us the hype and restore our faith. We need to believe Todd Sweeney is not just doing this for marketing reasons.

tender flume May 13, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Cri cri.

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:44 PM

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i have perpetual as well, but mixer is gonna get much better integration, which at the end of the day is the name of the game

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:44 PM

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@plush yew mate

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chaos engine is much better

digital badger May 13, 2020, 5:44 PM

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I doubt we'll get to UE7. By then they'll redo enough of the foundation code for it to be called a new name.

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:44 PM

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personally, i think it's amazing that UE5 is relying on this fast SSD stuff

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:44 PM

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yes

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and with that

still moat May 13, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Already plans on Working on UE8 Skipping 6 and 7

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:44 PM

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because a lot of this stuff probably really would not be possible without them

tender flume May 13, 2020, 5:44 PM

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We may still have UE6 though

raven prairie May 13, 2020, 5:44 PM

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For a character 3 millions tris would be fine i guess, is not like we need A LOT of tris for 1 mesh but as a whole you can notice the diference in detail.

tender flume May 13, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Then afterwards a new engine maybe

lament saddle May 13, 2020, 5:44 PM

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What about UE7 Remake?

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:44 PM

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they can render billions of millions of revolutionary polygons

hot haven May 13, 2020, 5:44 PM

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UE7 when they add C# support (bite me)

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:44 PM

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and games need to stop being limited by slow HDD loading

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:45 PM

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@misty scarab its gunna be hayuge

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:45 PM

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@novel mango chaos also means detailed destruction

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and now

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detailed simulations

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of cloths

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:45 PM

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well, the harddrive is/was mostly off-limits for most game stuff

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:45 PM

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gore potentially

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and that means

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Chaos physics uses a fixed framestep, yeha?

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:45 PM

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look, if there's billions of tri's running on a frikkin console, we can push the tricount into the trillions for PC

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:45 PM

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this meant you had a limited amount of stuff you could play around with

spare sun May 13, 2020, 5:45 PM

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how about

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water

teal charm May 13, 2020, 5:45 PM

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@plush yew how a 10 value per cell ssd would be called? 😏

sharp crest May 13, 2020, 5:45 PM

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At the edge of our universe there's probably just a gigantic wall displaying the words 'Powered by Unreal Engine

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:45 PM

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@urban gyro exactly

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Anyone else found it weird Epic choose to announce the most awaited game engine release in existence on a small little platform called "summer game fest" instead of waiting until E3/Pax/Gamescom?

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:46 PM

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but if you actually have fast loading SSDs as an expectation then you suddenly have many times more data available for whatever you need

teal charm May 13, 2020, 5:46 PM

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@plush yew DLC 😂 🔫

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:46 PM

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@sharp crest explains how big it is... TOO MANY DAMN ASSET PACKS!!!

digital badger May 13, 2020, 5:46 PM

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On PCs, they might load some of the high-poly objects directly into RAM if the secondary storage isn't fast enough. Ram is upwards of 64gb/s, and most "gaming" computers have 16gb or even 32gb

hybrid scroll May 13, 2020, 5:46 PM

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So, how do you think those amazing new features of UE5 will translate to dynamic things, like characters?

teal charm May 13, 2020, 5:46 PM

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XD

ocean hemlock May 13, 2020, 5:46 PM

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is ue5 going to be free?

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:46 PM

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yes

hybrid scroll May 13, 2020, 5:46 PM

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@ocean hemlock yes

ocean hemlock May 13, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Nice

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:46 PM

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@hybrid scroll yes

ocean hemlock May 13, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Wheeeyyy

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Imagine the Google Stadia streaming costs if it were per triangle.

knotty vessel May 13, 2020, 5:46 PM

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ue5 rlly do be vibing

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:46 PM

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@hybrid scroll i think that the main thing is being able to load a lot more data

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:47 PM

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ssds uber cheaperino

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@digital badger wait maybe till end of 2020

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:47 PM

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are they still going to support UE4?

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:47 PM

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and that this will allow a lot more character stuff as well

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:47 PM

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@hybrid scroll Dynamic GI for characters will probably will work fine, but I doubt geo streaming will work on skeletal meshe

ember shadow May 13, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Thoughts. finally got my blender model in Ue4 with no problems and put a funny face mechanic

📎 BlenderToUnrealTest_-_Unreal_Editor_2020-05-13_18-31-58.mp4

grave spruce May 13, 2020, 5:47 PM

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@plush yew yes

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:47 PM

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ssds and ram will be so cheap in 2020

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i swear

knotty vessel May 13, 2020, 5:47 PM

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does anyone know of a good tutorial to start on spell summoning attacks?

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:47 PM

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new PC

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Tim, how many triangles max should we support?
Yes.

raven prairie May 13, 2020, 5:47 PM

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You can have your emma watson at 100 millions triss with ray traycing, god bless epic games.

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:47 PM

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how much destruction

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OUI

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baguette simula-

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OUI

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:47 PM

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will UE5 allow for bigger game worlds? for example MMO

knotty vessel May 13, 2020, 5:47 PM

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OUI

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:47 PM

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@plush yew OUI

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:47 PM

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yes

digital badger May 13, 2020, 5:47 PM

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@misty scarab Wasn't there a shortage of SSD and RAM materials end of last year / early 2020?

grave spruce May 13, 2020, 5:47 PM

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MMO already made in UE4

knotty vessel May 13, 2020, 5:48 PM

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i would think it would i dont see why not

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:48 PM

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if anyone wants a future technology that will eventually be implemented into games, then look into "procedural sound effects"

spare sun May 13, 2020, 5:48 PM

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mmo already made with ue3 lmao

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:48 PM

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@grave spruce but they have small worlds

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:48 PM

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that's guaranteed to be a thing eventually in the future

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:48 PM

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@misty scarab sounds like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIGQSgifs6s&t=153s

YouTube

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❤️ Check out Weights & Biases here and sign up for a free demo: https://www.wandb.com/papers

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📝 The paper "A Thermomechanical Material Point Method for Baking and Cooking " is available h...

▶ Play video

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:48 PM

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@digital badger hey... im tellling ya. New technologies bud new tech

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boom

spare dust May 13, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Not really

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:48 PM

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ram

still moat May 13, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Kyllä

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:48 PM

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we will get a new wave of inventions

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faster speeds

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more ram

abstract relic May 13, 2020, 5:48 PM

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You need a player population first for a mmo world 😉

spare sun May 13, 2020, 5:48 PM

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^

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Will UE5 support 64bit and double precision floating point?

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:49 PM

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it's okay, just have AIs in your game that pretend to be players

obtuse anvil May 13, 2020, 5:49 PM

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@ember shadow I think u could a bit of an emission or brightness of somesort for the screen

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:49 PM

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I'm just happy SMT V is gonna use unreal, I have such a soft spot for those games

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:49 PM

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UE5 will support everything it seems

novel mango May 13, 2020, 5:49 PM

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so the two people you lure into the game won't notice

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:49 PM

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@spare sun hey! my mind can disprove this! im going insane in my MMORPG powered by unreal

glass radish May 13, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Hi guys, some one knows how to fix this? Pls!

📎 Erro.PNG

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:49 PM

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including the ONLINE SERVICES

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Wait, i cant make my models in 3dsmax now anymore. 3DSMax doesn't run well after 20million triangles. 😦 Even with a beefy beefy pc

abstract relic May 13, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Mmo auto battler? 😜

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:49 PM

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buy a new gpu

sharp crest May 13, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Hi guys, some one knows how to fix this? Pls!
@glass radish what is unclear? it says how to fix it.

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:49 PM

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this discord has gone WILD since UE5 announced

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or close down some chrome tabs

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:49 PM

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@glass radish Lower your texture resolution and or lightmap res, or reduce number oassets

uncut vigil May 13, 2020, 5:50 PM

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@plush yew 3dsmax 2021.2 maybe? and a new substanc epainter, altough they added that export with subdivision thing

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:50 PM

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screw adobe, mixer all da way, only need a baker

abstract relic May 13, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Zbrush for high poly crap

ember shadow May 13, 2020, 5:50 PM

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@obtuse anvil yeah, ill look into that next

digital badger May 13, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Back in my day, we had CrazyBump and Normal maps. Now... not so much.

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:50 PM

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@plush yew its talking vram, I dont think closing chrome will help much

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:50 PM

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ok

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INB4 Star citizen drops lumberyard for UE5

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:50 PM

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@glass radish look it up, you can do some settings and it will fix it up

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:50 PM

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@digital badger I still use Crazybump every once in awhile

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:50 PM

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gtg lads

abstract relic May 13, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Drop 3ds max and use the money for Zbrush

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:51 PM

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cya in 3 seconds

abstract relic May 13, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Blender is better anyway

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:51 PM

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yes it is

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:51 PM

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UE5 is the answer to all lifes questions

misty scarab May 13, 2020, 5:51 PM

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yes

digital badger May 13, 2020, 5:51 PM

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@fervent nacelle Well, Nanite/Lumen haven't been released. And epic's whole claim is "No poly budgets" and "No normal maps"

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:51 PM

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all i wanna know is how the update process will work

raven prairie May 13, 2020, 5:51 PM

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years learning 3d max for nothing :'v

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well at least i have mudbox xd

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:51 PM

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thats why u learn at home over the net

uncut vigil May 13, 2020, 5:51 PM

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you can still do hardsurface

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add details in zbrush, texture in something else

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:52 PM

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and learn it in 6 months

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:52 PM

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people were speculating about UE5 for years and now it's revealed Epic were secretly working on it...

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:52 PM

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I use a combo of Maya, Sketchup, Zbursh and 3D-coat and I can pump things out realtivelyt quickly, but thats a practice thing

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:52 PM

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@uncut vigil probably, i think its not just epic working on this stuff, or i hope, because allot of tools dont even run well now with such triangle counts they are supposing.

sharp crest May 13, 2020, 5:52 PM

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When tech demo download so we can play on PC???

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😢

heady valve May 13, 2020, 5:52 PM

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I hope for an UtilityAI in UE5.

digital badger May 13, 2020, 5:52 PM

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@sharp crest 2021

sharp crest May 13, 2020, 5:52 PM

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F

spare sun May 13, 2020, 5:52 PM

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6fps on hdd inc

sweet relic May 13, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Blender or die

digital badger May 13, 2020, 5:52 PM

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@heady valve I use a UtilityAI plugin that I've modified from github, works well in my project( running 4.25)

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Nah, blender's interface is almost as frustrating as 3ds max imo

raven prairie May 13, 2020, 5:53 PM

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imagine exporting 50 millions tris to 3d max, it would crash.

uncut vigil May 13, 2020, 5:53 PM

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@plush yew I hope substance painter gets an update to handle directly zbrush models, I can see how that would work, I'd just auto-unwrap it there

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:53 PM

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I thought Unity was vertex limited permodel by 32 bit systems so they could only be like 65k triangles

sweet relic May 13, 2020, 5:53 PM

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ya but i get moral superiority for using FOSS

tender flume May 13, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Question. Will my laptop support UE5?

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:53 PM

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fair

bronze tusk May 13, 2020, 5:53 PM

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prepare your HDD's boys, those billions or triangles scream for big space, also for a nanite V internet connection :)

storm burrow May 13, 2020, 5:53 PM

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noone knows, @tender flume

tender flume May 13, 2020, 5:53 PM

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It is ze 840M.

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Cri.

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:54 PM

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@plush yew I hope substance painter gets an update to handle directly zbrush models, I can see how that would work, I'd just auto-unwrap it there
@uncut vigil That would be nice a send to zb button and send to sp! I'd kill for that lol

tender flume May 13, 2020, 5:54 PM

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By taking it from UE5's open source code lol

idle garden May 13, 2020, 5:54 PM

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true story

tender flume May 13, 2020, 5:54 PM

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And calling it theirs

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With a name

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:54 PM

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@plush yew Yeah but itll take them six years to do it. Just look how long it took for them to SSR

digital badger May 13, 2020, 5:54 PM

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@plush yew The tweet by Karis made me happy lmao. He sounded so happy about his research.

storm burrow May 13, 2020, 5:55 PM

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he is

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and he should be

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great work

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🥳

idle garden May 13, 2020, 5:55 PM

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unity its waiting for unreal updates to adapt the code and update too

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probably

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:55 PM

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@tender flume I doubt its a pure copy and paste, but that generally the idea behind the term "reverse engineering"

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its common enouigh

digital badger May 13, 2020, 5:55 PM

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It's mostly a question of how much we can copy without getting sued and then changing what they can't copy directly

midnight root May 13, 2020, 5:56 PM

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unity while amazing in its own right is SO out of ue4's league

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and yes I know from experience,,while other things are better

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Yeah, it has to be transformative to not get sued thats what it boils down to basicly

knotty vessel May 13, 2020, 5:56 PM

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unity is ok but its horrible when put next to unreal haha

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Guys I'm hyped. Is anyone else hyped?

midnight root May 13, 2020, 5:56 PM

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yes

raven prairie May 13, 2020, 5:56 PM

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The real question is, will it be open source from launch? Will it be free as ue4?

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:56 PM

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@midnight root Unity is better for 2D hands down, but otherwise yes

tender flume May 13, 2020, 5:56 PM

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all of us are hyped.

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:56 PM

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now I don't want to work in UE4

digital badger May 13, 2020, 5:56 PM

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@urban gyro It releases in 2021, so I'm trying to be patient lol

tender flume May 13, 2020, 5:56 PM

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the person who predicted it is too haha

midnight root May 13, 2020, 5:56 PM

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agreed root, but then I've done no 2d in ue4, but paper I hear isn't great

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:57 PM

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who needs 2d when u can just do 3d and slap the camera in front view 😄

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:57 PM

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@plush yew Right, the principal is based on extrapolating the information and process and reintegrating that in a way that is compatible for your use-case scenario

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:57 PM

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@plush yew Don't even need to make it dissimilar, all that is needed is something that makes your work transformative of the orginial

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:57 PM

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yeah, ii dont think its inherently a bad thing

midnight root May 13, 2020, 5:58 PM

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though I gotta say I"MSO TIRED of lighting in ue4

teal egret May 13, 2020, 5:58 PM

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It really is likely just going to be basically 4.27 rebranded with more API breaking changes and more deprecation that normal.

midnight root May 13, 2020, 5:58 PM

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and they know it

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:58 PM

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A lot of modern game engines rely on the work of other engines to a certain degree\

digital badger May 13, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Just realised all of game dev is reverse engineering. From designers taking inspiration from systems from other games, to art workflows/direction and programming.

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:58 PM

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So basically 3d art workflows and lighting are made wayyy faster?

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:58 PM

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I love lighting in UE4, I find optimizing to be soothing

midnight root May 13, 2020, 5:58 PM

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lolk

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LOL

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:58 PM

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I'm not joking about that

midnight root May 13, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Im not either ;))

plush yew May 13, 2020, 5:59 PM

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@digital badger You have just exposed the entire games industry. Shame on you. lol

nova shoal May 13, 2020, 5:59 PM

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I watched it a second time, I am FLOORED

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:59 PM

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How can I go back to UE4.25 now 😦

knotty vessel May 13, 2020, 5:59 PM

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im only scared to have to convert my work i dont know how to do that yet hfbhb

digital badger May 13, 2020, 5:59 PM

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@plush yew More like an epiphany lol

lone yoke May 13, 2020, 5:59 PM

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As much as i love those amazing graphic features, i think the AI system deserves some attention aswell.

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 5:59 PM

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@plush yew I started with Sketchup making phone concepts and then moved to cryengine in like 2012 and then UE4 in 2015 and have remained since

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 5:59 PM

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what's wrong with the AI atm?\

mortal cedar May 13, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Will unreal engine 5 be an update for ue4, or something completely new?

tender flume May 13, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Question.

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is UE5 more optimized than UE4?

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:00 PM

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no no, Lumberyard guys

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:00 PM

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@plush yew Thanks, and oh yeah it was horrendous, I barely got anything done at all in it

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oh yeha

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Lumberyard is the UE5 killer

digital badger May 13, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Lumberyard is Amazon tech right?

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:01 PM

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yez

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:01 PM

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its a bastardized cryengine

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:01 PM

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@urban gyro Yeah I;m not to crazy putting my work into a company that could very well take over the planet at this point

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:01 PM

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or was it autodesks stingray, which got scrapped anyway

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Definitely @digital badger This is your new life in game dev. just like how programming is mostly problem solving, game development is mostly reverse engineering. Now what to do what the info is up to you, but use it wisely. you're now one of the enlightened. or anyone whos read these lol

tender flume May 13, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Amazon Lumberyard is everyones fav

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:01 PM

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i.e. amazojn

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Hey guys! Since the 4.25 update my "Editor" windows dissapear and it's greyed out when i try to click on it under the "Window" menu option, is it known how to resolve that ?

teal charm May 13, 2020, 6:01 PM

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@midnight root whats the problem with lighting?

midnight root May 13, 2020, 6:02 PM

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its ugly

tender flume May 13, 2020, 6:02 PM

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UE5 2021 sounds amazing

midnight root May 13, 2020, 6:02 PM

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inconistent

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:02 PM

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that is why Star Citizen is never coming out 😄

midnight root May 13, 2020, 6:02 PM

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blown out in some areas, 'decent' ISH in others

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:02 PM

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sorry, im still on 4.24, I always wait until one or two hotfixes in before I update. @plush yew agreed @midnight root if you dont know how to use it that is

midnight root May 13, 2020, 6:02 PM

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???

heady quartz May 13, 2020, 6:03 PM

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So i have a question, is it bad if i have a lot of custom events? Like 100 in one blueprint?

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:03 PM

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How long will you wait before jumping onto UE5? One update? Two Updates?

midnight root May 13, 2020, 6:03 PM

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epic IS working on fixing lighting , they know its a problem

sonic glacier May 13, 2020, 6:03 PM

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so... bye bye lightmass?

midnight root May 13, 2020, 6:03 PM

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outdoor mainly

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no clue on that

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:03 PM

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lighting needs to be rebuilt

midnight root May 13, 2020, 6:03 PM

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lol

sonic glacier May 13, 2020, 6:04 PM

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cant wait to try my 2D sprites in UE5 lol

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:04 PM

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why not use event dispatchers

still moat May 13, 2020, 6:04 PM

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brb going to port my game to UE2

gusty geyser May 13, 2020, 6:04 PM

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100 events on a blueprint isn't a problem, why you have 100 on one blueprint might be.

heady quartz May 13, 2020, 6:04 PM

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I use event dispatchers and bind them to new custom events

teal charm May 13, 2020, 6:04 PM

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do you think projects will be made exportable from ue4 to 5?

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:04 PM

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I always jump right in to the newest releases, but keep my main projects 3 behind. There are always major dumb bugs that break something useful so i tend to keep my main projects as stable as possible. Like 4.24's animation bug with the out of range -1 thing or what ever i hate that bug and that version i wanna diiiieee

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they will be @teal charm, just 4.25 projects though

maiden swift May 13, 2020, 6:05 PM

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According to the blog post: no more lightmaps, normal maps, manually authored LODs, poly budgets, or draw call budgets. 👀

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:05 PM

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@midnight root Trying leveraging SSAO and DFAO in tandem and you'll find you achieve much better results for indoor v outdoor. SSAO should havea radius of 10-50 units a power of below 1 and DFAO should be used to occluded larger distances

tribal herald May 13, 2020, 6:05 PM

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@teal charm Yes, Epic said it they are making it forward compatible.

teal charm May 13, 2020, 6:05 PM

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@plush yew thats good to hear

tender flume May 13, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Wait so its really optimized for UE5?

sonic glacier May 13, 2020, 6:05 PM

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i this still directx12?

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Buys 2 next gen GPU's and uses an engine capable of rendering trillions of tris.

Makes 2d games using sprites 😄

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:05 PM

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oof

jagged meteor May 13, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Can someone explain to me how tf UE5 is claiming to render 8k textures, billions of triangles WITH GI in REAL TIME?

tiny sonnet May 13, 2020, 6:06 PM

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for multiplayer interactions, do u need both a web and a game server?

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:06 PM

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@jagged meteor Yes, and we're all currently attempting to dissect the method by wqhich its achieved if that really is true

tiny sonnet May 13, 2020, 6:06 PM

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are we still talking about ue5?

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:06 PM

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if we knew HOW it wouldn't be a new release no would it

twin adder May 13, 2020, 6:06 PM

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so I see they've shown UE5 on PS5, can we consider that Nanite will also be working on PC and Xbox, just to be sure?

digital badger May 13, 2020, 6:06 PM

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@jagged meteor Probably a deep-learning algorithm.

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:06 PM

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@tiny sonnet one, the other, or both, what ever suits your game

tender flume May 13, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Theres probably lots of optimizations that went into it.

sweet relic May 13, 2020, 6:06 PM

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@jagged meteor "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

gusty geyser May 13, 2020, 6:07 PM

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@jagged meteor They state it was a lossless down sample to a few million triangles actually drawn.

tender flume May 13, 2020, 6:07 PM

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So no more LODs for UE5?

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:07 PM

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The LODs will be automatically determined I hear

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:07 PM

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no more normals, no more retopo, no more lods mipmaps ao etc

sonic glacier May 13, 2020, 6:07 PM

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I want to know the file size of the demo xD

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:07 PM

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lods are auto already anyway

jagged meteor May 13, 2020, 6:07 PM

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@tender flume Thats the whole thing, there isn't... there used to have to be optimization

bronze tusk May 13, 2020, 6:07 PM

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guys don't dream to far with PC, this tech is possible because of a new hardware tech that PS5 is using

zenith flax May 13, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Probably seen by many people but still funny to watch now

tiny sonnet May 13, 2020, 6:07 PM

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@plush yew i set up my data on a webserver without thinking, but i need a place to host a dedicated server for hosting my game.

zenith flax May 13, 2020, 6:07 PM

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teal charm May 13, 2020, 6:07 PM

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@plush yew i feel you when you say c++ is good, i think it gives the devs all the options and not hiding stuff with garbage collectors and things

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:07 PM

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mipmaps are auto anyway 😛

twin adder May 13, 2020, 6:07 PM

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@bronze tusk that's what I afraid of

solar agate May 13, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Lods are auto at runtime now, though

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Its probably def a convolutional solution, the sound is, let me search my maths journals for geo reduction in ai one sec

tender flume May 13, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Alright lets build a time machine

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Fly to 2021

heady quartz May 13, 2020, 6:08 PM

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@bronze tusk ok boomer

tender flume May 13, 2020, 6:08 PM

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See you guys there.

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:08 PM

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yo yo yo, UE5 C++ YE?!?!

dense arrow May 13, 2020, 6:08 PM

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no javascript

teal charm May 13, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Haskell

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functional is the future

rocky radish May 13, 2020, 6:08 PM

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no javascript
@dense arrow nah, it uses python

teal charm May 13, 2020, 6:08 PM

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JK

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JK

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:08 PM

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F# then 😄

tender flume May 13, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Dont forget

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:09 PM

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@digital badger Doubt it, I inquired on the forums almost a year ago after reading a neural network dynamic GI system and mentioned it. I was told it was either currently unfeasibnle given how engine works or that there wasnt any current plans. THat may have changed tho

undone sinew May 13, 2020, 6:09 PM

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I need more information about Nanite.

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:09 PM

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we all do

tender flume May 13, 2020, 6:09 PM

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The only reason the PS5 graphics looked that good is because it was made on a PC.

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:09 PM

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yeah lets go fortran

tender flume May 13, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Not on a PS4 or anything

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So PC is the one that gives the engine for games to run on UE5

twin adder May 13, 2020, 6:09 PM

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platforms compatibility info for Nanite is all I want 😄

burnt tangle May 13, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Unreal engine 5 looks amazing

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:09 PM

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@fervent nacelle that was you? nice! i was waiting with baited breath when i seen your post then the response came and kicked me in the network

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:09 PM

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they claim all platforms

tender flume May 13, 2020, 6:10 PM

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All

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:10 PM

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including online integrations with steam/psn/xboxlive etc

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:10 PM

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no more normals, no more retopo, no more lods mipmaps ao etc
@urban gyro wouldn't you need to retopo for the purpose of shading?

twin adder May 13, 2020, 6:10 PM

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well that's dope

tender flume May 13, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Less workload for everyone

gusty geyser May 13, 2020, 6:10 PM

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I wonder how many Unity devs are lurking in the shadows here today.

bitter iris May 13, 2020, 6:10 PM

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@tender flume Every game is made on a PC.. The demo is played on the PS5 console not PS4

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:10 PM

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@plush yew assuming its the rsame post then yeah

heady valve May 13, 2020, 6:10 PM

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@digital badger I will take a look on it

twin adder May 13, 2020, 6:10 PM

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so 3d artist can become more lazy now? 😄

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:10 PM

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@plush yew unless your edge flow is garbage and you run with ngons then no

digital badger May 13, 2020, 6:10 PM

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@heady valve I'll DM you it

undone sinew May 13, 2020, 6:10 PM

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they imply that models stream

forest tree May 13, 2020, 6:11 PM

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No, more creative @twin adder 😉

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:11 PM

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3d artist just needs to sculp for organic and poly for hard and boom its done

undone sinew May 13, 2020, 6:11 PM

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so, im wondering if it is some kind of voxel-like system

tender flume May 13, 2020, 6:11 PM

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guys don't dream to far with PC, this tech is possible because of a new hardware tech that PS5 is using @bitter iris

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He said that

bitter iris May 13, 2020, 6:11 PM

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oh

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my bad shin

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:11 PM

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@fervent nacelle maybe maybe not,

but i did find something in a 2019 journal called 5.2 Data-analytically Defined Geometries

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:11 PM

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what is that magical hardware tech thats unaccessible for PC

glass radish May 13, 2020, 6:11 PM

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@glass radish Lower your texture resolution and or lightmap res, or reduce number oassets
@fervent nacelle Where I found the window who show the size of the textures?

digital badger May 13, 2020, 6:11 PM

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@fervent nacelle It's most likely not Deep Learning, but a year in AI Development changes alot.

grim ore May 13, 2020, 6:11 PM

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I think everyone keeps overlooking the fact that they say "Manually Authored LOD's" and not "No LOD's"

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:12 PM

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eeeeeeeh, I missed that

bitter iris May 13, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Nanite mmmmmm

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:12 PM

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come on, LUMEN is pretty hype too

bronze tusk May 13, 2020, 6:12 PM

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@undone sinew no voxel system, just smart camera, and level streaming

grim ore May 13, 2020, 6:12 PM

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The trouble is do I redo the intro to ue4 series like I planned for .25 or just hold off for 5.0 since I will need one for that anyways lol

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:12 PM

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and chhaos physx? i have a great idea for that one 😄

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:12 PM

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So i imagine it's most definitely a neural network that processes geo and has the ability to change the graph of the model in real time.

I'd imagine this works for skinned character too!

jagged meteor May 13, 2020, 6:12 PM

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I can't even rig my character with as many polys as ue5 can handle

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:13 PM

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@grim ore wait for 5

grave spruce May 13, 2020, 6:13 PM

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the series have to redone for 5 so better wait

frank oar May 13, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Hi, I have a silly issue that has had me stuck for hours...

I have a character which back slides when moving from its idle pose into an animation.
I cant figure out how to stop it..

I would be greatful for any advice..

sonic glacier May 13, 2020, 6:13 PM

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is there a release date for the new tools?

kindred crag May 13, 2020, 6:13 PM

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whos hyped for ue5? 😋

grim ore May 13, 2020, 6:13 PM

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yeah I think I will wait for 5 unless I get bored lol

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 6:13 PM

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https://twitter.com/UE4Memes/status/1260633738242715648

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fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:14 PM

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@glass radish Click on a texture asset, till open a window and scroll down until you find the "LOD Bias" input box, 1 = half res, 2= quarter and son on

📎 1.jpg

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:14 PM

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@grim ore Ideally, talk with epic so that they integrate 30 second clips when you hover over an object for more info

grim ore May 13, 2020, 6:14 PM

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@frank oar https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Engine/Animation/RootMotion/index.html

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:14 PM

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and when u hover over for more info/help ur vid gets fetched and streamed for a quick explo

sweet relic May 13, 2020, 6:14 PM

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@fierce tulip Realtime dynamic memes

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:14 PM

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@digital badger absolutewly, I'm not saying tis impossible, we'll just have to wait and see, eh?

grim ore May 13, 2020, 6:14 PM

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@urban gyro well Chaos will be in .26 binary more than likely so no need to wait on that 🙂

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:15 PM

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i hope so

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:15 PM

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oh yeah imma defo waiting

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that, and the crowd tech, and the shooter of my dreams will be well on its way

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:15 PM

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building an engine fork from source is one of the most annoying things to me

grim ore May 13, 2020, 6:15 PM

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its in .26 on git right now and they mentioned the goal was to replace physx with it if they can soooooooo

crimson vigil May 13, 2020, 6:15 PM

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So I need to know - how in the hell are they able to render THAT many polys in real-time? What kind of black magic are they using?

(Sorry if I missed someone else explain it, there's a REALLY long scroll going in here right now)

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:15 PM

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downsampling

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basically i think

ocean wind May 13, 2020, 6:16 PM

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what does this mean for game devs now lol

spare sun May 13, 2020, 6:16 PM

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this means less time wasted on optimizing

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:16 PM

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means u make whhat u want in 3d and just dump it into engine and it aint gonna tank ur fps

hollow ore May 13, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Means we can use quixel stuff with no LODs lol

crimson vigil May 13, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Oooh okay, so just intelligent, automatic downsampling?

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:16 PM

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no authored LODs, no need to manually tweak it

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as per Mathew and the video

jagged meteor May 13, 2020, 6:17 PM

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I mean you still have to optimize characters. Try animating a rigged character with over a million polys

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:17 PM

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well, they said that 1 tri is as small as a pixel, so thhats a clue

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:17 PM

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How can UE5 be announced even if there is no branch yet on Github?

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There is 4.25-plus

kindred crag May 13, 2020, 6:17 PM

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@grim ore what does manually authored lod's mean though?

ocean wind May 13, 2020, 6:17 PM

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So no more optimizing meshes

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:17 PM

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it's gonna be streamlined at least

undone sinew May 13, 2020, 6:17 PM

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so it sounds like we still have LODs of some sort, its just automated.

spare sun May 13, 2020, 6:17 PM

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character itself does look lower poly than the quixel stuff tbh

mint raptor May 13, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Chances this will run on current gen consoles/harwware?

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Well I think the key point we should be considering is the SSD in the PS5 and how the bandwidth speeds compare to currently availbe hardware

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 6:17 PM

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i feel there is a lot of confusion of "no more optimizing meshes" vs "randomly add a bleepload of polygons because you have no clue how to model"

normal burrow May 13, 2020, 6:17 PM

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@grim ore does this mean you remake every single video now?

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:17 PM

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my guess is that if the camera desides that 2 tris take the same pixel space, it just renders that 1 tri

mint raptor May 13, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Think Nintendo Switch will make use of UE5 for example?

hollow ore May 13, 2020, 6:18 PM

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@kindred crag you can model something once in pure poly without needing baking normals and all

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:18 PM

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the bandwidth of the drive I feel is going to be the largest limiting factor with that

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:18 PM

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ngons will still suck tho

jagged meteor May 13, 2020, 6:18 PM

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@fossil basin exactly... Houdini and other DCC tools cant handle those polycounts and you need them to author animations

normal burrow May 13, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Believe this is intended @fierce tulip

honest vale May 13, 2020, 6:18 PM

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https://media.giphy.com/media/lrCkqjp6OJh6Kz5K6P/giphy.gif

Giphy

Unreal Engine

normal burrow May 13, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Much buzz

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:18 PM

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@urban gyro Why are you using ngons to begin with?

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They so bad for computation

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:18 PM

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So, i think i am right, i read some of this journal, and it would seem that "Data-analytically Defined Geometries" or similar name is probably what it is.

It's not LODs it's entirely different, its like NURBS vs Faceted Geometry

Progressive detail because its Data-analytically Defined Geometries

Like how Vector Art and Bitmaps are fundamentally different

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 6:18 PM

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oh god, another ngon discussion.

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:18 PM

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How should a scene be better if it has more polys?

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:18 PM

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i am not, my point is u cant be completely reckless

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 6:18 PM

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ngons are great

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if used well

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:19 PM

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eeeeeeeh a 12gon will suck ballz for lighting and smoothing no matter hhow u slice it tho

undone sinew May 13, 2020, 6:19 PM

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I'm just happy we are finally going to get realtime GI.

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 6:19 PM

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do some research before you go anti ngon, and ue4 imports everything triangulated anyways

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:19 PM

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@fierce tulip yeah in the model making process, but there used to be the issue of non-auto triangulation and i still have ptsd from it

forest tree May 13, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Why great, @fierce tulip ? I'm curious

normal burrow May 13, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Yeah was gonna say

forest tree May 13, 2020, 6:19 PM

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I always heard they were the devil

urban sinew May 13, 2020, 6:19 PM

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let's just let ngons be bygones 🙂

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 6:19 PM

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hehe

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:19 PM

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yeah it does by the tris are all on massive pole verts

normal burrow May 13, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Ue4 will make those decisions on triangles for you

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:19 PM

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@luos\

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 6:19 PM

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@forest tree because people who say they are evil never did the research :p

jagged meteor May 13, 2020, 6:20 PM

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tell a rigger that ngons are great

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 6:20 PM

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and just took it from their peers that they are evil

worn granite May 13, 2020, 6:20 PM

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but blueprint tick is really slow!!!!

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:20 PM

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i did the research, u think I like quadcapping cylinders?

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 6:20 PM

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who took it from their peers

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and so on

hollow ore May 13, 2020, 6:20 PM

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@fierce tulip sounds like a blueprint discussion

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 6:20 PM

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ikr

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or cpp vs csharp

bitter iris May 13, 2020, 6:20 PM

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@worn granite just use nativized on expensive bps

normal burrow May 13, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Disallowed!

bitter iris May 13, 2020, 6:20 PM

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😄

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:21 PM

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omg i found the paper, its the very next paper in the journal!!!!

The white paper is titled Progressive Geometry Progression

worn granite May 13, 2020, 6:21 PM

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@bitter iris oh ty never thought it'd work

kindred crag May 13, 2020, 6:21 PM

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@hollow ore Im not a 3d modeler myself, whats the difference if you bake or dont bake normals?

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:21 PM

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@forest tree they;re not inherently bad but you wannt make sure you triangulate before theyre in-engine althouhg most engines handle this natively, but personally for me I'm used to avoiding it becasue I had to back track a lot of modeling very early on and its since become habit XD

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:21 PM

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So will lod or procedural geometry be possible in the editor too

bitter iris May 13, 2020, 6:21 PM

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@worn granite i use it made a big difference

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:21 PM

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?

normal burrow May 13, 2020, 6:21 PM

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You know I just go on about that because I care for fellow developers luos

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:21 PM

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if u don't bake normals u don't have a normal map

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:21 PM

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http://multires.caltech.edu/pubs/compression.pdf

normal burrow May 13, 2020, 6:21 PM

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And one of those aren’t suited to game development

urban sinew May 13, 2020, 6:21 PM

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As if millions of normal maps cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:21 PM

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@sleek moons\

lime girder May 13, 2020, 6:21 PM

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This UE5 thing is such voodoo 😮

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:21 PM

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😄

sleek spear May 13, 2020, 6:22 PM

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how do i change niagara particle color from blueprints?

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:22 PM

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@urban gyro not inherently true, theres plenty of other uses for nomal maps as well as creation methods

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:22 PM

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So just use 3 triangles for a tree and not three million

autumn crystal May 13, 2020, 6:22 PM

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heh

normal burrow May 13, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Y’all need to understand normal maps have been weird 2ch ones in ue4 for some time

hollow ore May 13, 2020, 6:22 PM

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@kindred crag you make a mesh with a million triangles, then make a mesh with way fewer tries and using maps, try to make it look like the high poly mesh

lime girder May 13, 2020, 6:22 PM

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At one point there was discussion of an Unreal script, sort of inbetween blueprint and C++, i wonder if thatll be in UE5?

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Such seamless tiling detail or shading correction

teal charm May 13, 2020, 6:22 PM

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just please epic make vault categories or tags 🙏

bitter iris May 13, 2020, 6:22 PM

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cant wait to put 1 trillion tris in a scene

normal burrow May 13, 2020, 6:22 PM

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They been suffering, put them out of misery

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:22 PM

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how are u going to use a normal map if u don't bake one

autumn crystal May 13, 2020, 6:22 PM

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that would be amazing

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 6:22 PM

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I paint normal maps in photoshop :p

autumn crystal May 13, 2020, 6:23 PM

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G++ support for UE5 PLEASE

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MSVC bad

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:23 PM

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ouch that is oldschool and hardcore at the same time 😄

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 6:23 PM

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but only because I dont need them to behave like regular normal ones

kindred crag May 13, 2020, 6:23 PM

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@hollow ore Ohh I see, so that would be no longer needed for UE5 right?

grave spruce May 13, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Unreal script was discontinue for UE4 even do they try to bring back in a different way

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:23 PM

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but i do mine in PAINT 3D, the REAL texturing software

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:23 PM

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G++ support for UE5 PLEASE
It can be compiled with clang

summer yew May 13, 2020, 6:23 PM

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so no more Lodding in UE5?

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:23 PM

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This has to be it, right?

https://cm-bell-labs.github.io/who/wim/papers/compression/
https://cm-bell-labs.github.io/who/wim/papers/compression/teaser.jpg

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But it's very slow on Linux

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LODing will be less manual at the very least

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Would be nice to have some lto here

urban gyro May 13, 2020, 6:24 PM

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if they don't behave like normal maps, are they still counting as normal tho 😛

digital badger May 13, 2020, 6:24 PM

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Higher quality image :-

📎 unknown.png

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 6:24 PM

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they are, its normal map compressed, using the full -1 to 1 range in RGB and A

autumn crystal May 13, 2020, 6:24 PM

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@plush yew ye

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:24 PM

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There's intepreter software like SD, Crazybump, Photoshop njob that you can convert tradtional imagery to normal maps, and thats where most of my detail maps come after setting up and delighting the texture I wanted to use, but I also use a triple layer normal map composition to selectively extract the detail I need for each layer ising a wdie-range, mid-range and short-range scan of the original; input texture

grave spruce May 13, 2020, 6:25 PM

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normal+

autumn crystal May 13, 2020, 6:25 PM

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im not a very big fan of msvc, specifically cuz of admin necessities

normal burrow May 13, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Nah tangent normal maps use two channels in ue4

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 6:25 PM

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^

plush yew May 13, 2020, 6:25 PM

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mingw>msvc

fervent nacelle May 13, 2020, 6:25 PM

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@normal burrow Yeah, the Z-channel is filled in by the shader logic

autumn crystal May 13, 2020, 6:25 PM

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^

solid gazelle May 13, 2020, 6:25 PM

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stretches

autumn crystal May 13, 2020, 6:25 PM

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anything>msvc

fierce tulip May 13, 2020, 6:26 PM

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RGB > channel 1 (U)
alpha > channel 2 (V)

next badger May 13, 2020, 6:26 PM

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@flint trench it still requires to compile ue4 form sources to use atm, and production ready means, replace physx (as you can't use both)

grave spruce May 13, 2020, 6:26 PM

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no date for the blender ue4 plugin GWvertiPeepoSadMan