ue4-general

[dusty prism]

Every1 started from the buttom

[rotund scroll]

we're in an eldritch dimension where multiplayer gta style games with AAA production values can be created by one or two man teams, by using blueprint only

[tall pendant]

You can waste your time on dreams buts it's pathetic to do so and won't get you on route for actual game dev.

[hidden aurora]

I recomed always start small

[rotund scroll]

I agree

[hidden aurora]

I say it because of personal experience

[dusty prism]

Im a good builder on roblox

When i started on roblox i told myself its complicated and i wont be able to be a good builder at rovlox

But i told myself how did others became good? And then i started

Ofc i need to start small

And then go bigger

Like i should train

[rotund scroll]

if you can fill that building on the inside with gameplay that is fun

that is the size you need to aim for

[dusty prism]

Yes

Its in progress anyway

But thank you soooo much

[visual belfry]

we're in an eldritch dimension where multiplayer gta style games with AAA production values can be created by one or two man teams, by using blueprint only

I'd say that's true for experienced one or two man teams

and well balanced

[dusty prism]

I may hire too

I want to learn anyway

[hidden aurora]

Big boi

[dusty prism]

Im motivated

[rotund scroll]

@visual belfry no amount of experience is going to cut down production time

[shell compass]

Heya, anyone able to understand why manually typing "demoplay asdf" plays my asdf recording properly, but if I use the BP node Execute Console Command to fire that same exact "demoplay asdf", it goes all weird on me and (I assume) doesn't create a replay player controller?

[dusty prism]

Thank u guys for ur help :D

[shell compass]

Like why would firing the same console command through a node yield different results? I don't get it

[dusty prism]

Im out of questions now

[visual belfry]

@rotund scroll maybe on the scale story-wise of GTA 1 and with the graphics of GTA 3 😛

[rotund scroll]

if you replace gta with this, then yes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aGDCE6Nrz0

[visual belfry]

😮

[timber birch]

Hmm, does anyone know why slope height based in bleeding through when the normal map intensity is changed? 🤔

[stray smelt]

why does a skeletal mesh placed in the level behave differently than one spawned with blueprint? it's the exact same skeletal mesh, physicsasset yet the one spawned by level flails around. Any way which it gets different settings?

this is how i'm spawning it:

[lapis bronze]

one of them is inheriting a physics asset override

i forget which one does it

if you wanted them both to be the same, make sure the default physics asset in your skeletal mesh is setup

[stray smelt]

Thanks. Setting physicsasset + Force Re Init fixed it

[mellow turret]

do you know any free icon pack for an rpg?

[rotund scroll]

might be some free on the marketplace

[mellow turret]

i searched the word "icon" with free price and there are none : D

[night stirrup]

Is it impossible to change texture group settings on project config files??
I'm wasting so much time trying to do that

For static mesh lods is so freaking easy, I don't understand why its that hard to change texture group settings. I found out only how to change the name

[rotund scroll]

maybe try searching for action rpg

epic has a free one out

you could steal those icons

can't use them commercially but ya know

[mellow turret]

i guess ill just use placeholders

[frank iron]

I hate how there aren't many free assets. Fortnite made billions give us some free stuff please epic 😂

Can you use the default assets in UE4 commercially?

[chilly gale]

@sand nacelle Can a BSP be use as a volume, the idea is to be able to make volumes that are not squares or rectangles, I trying to make a cave inside a landscape, the idea it's a large cavern within a mountain so the volume needs to tapper upward inside and under the terrain/landscape mountain. I'd like to be able to use BSP's to make custom volumes for fog, Postprocessing lighting and light blocking

[visual belfry]

aren't many? literally 5+ packs a month for a while now 😮

[amber tangle]

Yeah, there's loads of free assets to prototype stuff with

[lone ferry]

Can I ask a general question here? I think I'm fundamentally misunderstanding arrays and how they work. Often times I'd like to pick our a 'random' thing form an array, and then do something with it. I would think that 'length' should return the total number of objects in the array, and that 'last index' would give me the highest index number that is valid. But if I use either of those along with a -get random int in range- (with the length or last index set to the highest random int possible) I will often end up with an invalid index.

Is zero an index? If I use 'remove' or something is destroyed that would have been in that index, do all other members 'shift' to fill that index?

[visual belfry]

0 is a valid index, if you remove index 0 then they will shift

be careful with get random, if you have two wires leading out from it each will be a different random number

[lone ferry]

Ah, I'll bet that is a big part of my problem

If I rout the wire correctly, will it prevent that? IE split it after the initial point?

[visual belfry]

let me reword: everything Get Random Int is connected to will receive a different random number

you either want to set a variable to the random number and use that variable from then on, or set a variable to whatever random item you pulled out of the array and use that from then on

1 wire, no splits

[lone ferry]

Not sure if the server allows images:

So that split on the right is probably causing an issue

[visual belfry]

probably*

[lone ferry]

So, if you were sending an actor to one of any random points in an array, how would you select one randomly.

Like, maybe my whole method is just silly

[visual belfry]

set a variable from that Get

then use that variable from then onward

[lone ferry]

I guess I've just been a bit paranoid about creating too many variables. I use this a lot to randomize things

[visual belfry]

why is random a pure function 😦 such devious behavior

better to create more variables than to be wrong 😄

[lone ferry]

Ah, because A: I'm a silly noob and it hasn't bitten me in the ass (yet)

[visual belfry]

the gist is anything the white (exec) wire passes through is safe to use again without its node being called again

[lone ferry]

Ok. And last index, how is that different from length? Wouldn't it just be off by one because of 0?

[visual belfry]

yep

last index = length -1

[lone ferry]

Gotcha. This helps a lot. Even just getting confirmation about the length as items are removed.

Thanks!

[plush yew]

why did you guys choose ue4 over unity?

[lone ferry]

Oh buddy. How much time do you have?

[plush yew]

i've been debating switching to ue4 from unity for awhile now, but i'm not sure if it'd be worth it

[lone ferry]

Are you an artist or programmer?

[plush yew]

i do a little bit of everything

i've only coded in c# so far

c++ intimidates me

that's one of the reasons i've been avoiding ue4

[dim plover]

UE4 has better graphics and the source is more available. The networking (multiplayer) seems to be easier out of the box.
Which are my reasons.

[plush yew]

i know about blueprints, but i'd like to know how to script as well, if i were to switch

[lone ferry]

I'm a non-programmer, but from an art perspective it is night and day. It's so much easier for me to get content up and running, build my own shaders/materials and some logic where needed.

But Unity's retargeting tool is a dream in comparison if you are doing anything with biped animation.

[plush yew]

i like c#, but i'm tempted to learn c++, so maybe i should switch

starting over would be a pain, though

you see, i'm interested in console hacking as well, so c++ might suit me better

then again, i'm already doing all of the art and programming for my project, so maybe i should stick with the "easier" language

it's a tough call

[amber tangle]

I do a bit of both, a lot more of Unreal

I prefer C# to C++, after 20+ years of C++ lol

However, Unreal is so much more stable

We have a joke around the office - the first 40% of a project is faster in Unity than Unreal. The last 60% isn't even possible

I spent ages in Unity doing simple stuff like coding lerps

[rotund scroll]

has anyone experienced that the new functionality in blueprint for right click -> add event on a variable, that the event doesn't function?

[amber tangle]

The cinema mode and camera rigs alone save me so much time

I'm not even sure what the Unity equiv to the sequencer is, since I haven't used it in a little bit

[plush yew]

there's an official addon called cinemachine

it might be that

what don't you like about c++ @amber tangle

[amber tangle]

LOL we don't have that kind of time 😄

But specfiically compared to C# (in the context of Unity) I find there's a lot more gotchas in Unreal in C++, those have been mostly rounded off in Unity. Sorta welded on training wheels

UE4 with C++? I think you could probably make it do just about anything you could imagine, which isn't always a good thing

Unity with C# you're mostly just passing some class some values

Obviously, to get a game to 100%, it's a heck of a lot easier with UE4, blueprint, and C++ because you're not having to fight the training wheels

[plush yew]

i like c#. it's simple. c++ looks like it would stress me out.

but i like that.

[rotund scroll]

I like C# as well

but I think unity is garbage

[amber tangle]

I like C# too, it'd be nice if UE4 supported it

[plush yew]

that'd be interesting

[amber tangle]

but I'll take blueprint for the quick stuff I'd use C# for

[rotund scroll]

I saw there was a wrapper plugin to use C# instead of c++

[visual belfry]

having source available is what sealed the deal for me

[amber tangle]

Yeah, that's a biggie

[rotund scroll]

can't imagine what the overhead is though

[visual belfry]

even if I don't care to fix an issue, I can figure out why it's happening and how to avoid it

[amber tangle]

and amazing docs

[visual belfry]

"amazing" >_>

[amber tangle]

Overhead for blueprint? I haven't noticed compiled blueprint being too big

Dude, compared to Unity's docs 😄

[rotund scroll]

no as in

[amber tangle]

Not compared to ideal docs

[rotund scroll]

a wrapper that lets you code in c# and then wraps it into C++

[amber tangle]

You mean a compiler LOL

[rotund scroll]

no

a wrapper

[amber tangle]

C++ is already a wrapper on C

it's a massive trunk full of libs and mods to make C OOO

[visual belfry]

only back in the cfront days

[plush yew]

Hi whats the right way to zip up a game project

[visual belfry]

Right Click -> Add to Zip file?

[rotund scroll]

bingo

[amber tangle]

like file->package->zip vs zip the dir?

but yeah - I'd certainly use c# if they chose to support it

I think it's a little tidier when you're doing all object calls anyhow

but it's really 6 vs 1/2 dozen

the engine is the reason to use UE vs Unity

if you can learn C#, you can learn C++

[plush yew]

really?

i have bjarne stroustrup's book

yeah but there is that nuance where you have to zip it inside itself or some B*shit i always forget

[amber tangle]

me too, loads of them

[rotund scroll]

I don't mind C++, I just find it annoying to have to essentially define everything twice

declare then define

[amber tangle]

YES

lol

and the nearly identical syntax that really isn't

[rotund scroll]

I honestly don't get why that hasn't been upgraded

[amber tangle]

If I have to do a lot of structs for some reason, I'd prefer to use C++

[rotund scroll]

what's wrong with c# structs

[amber tangle]

if I'm just building child objects, it's a wash

Nothing wrong with them, it's just less tunable

[rotund scroll]

I'm out of the loop, haven't used c# in most any capacity for the past 5 years

[amber tangle]

you can go nutty with pointer math really easily in structs if you want to

break out parallel processor stuff

go nuts

Why? You don't really need to

but C# doesn't really encourage that

[rotund scroll]

C# is the straight and narrow

[amber tangle]

yeah, it's very tidy and with Unity, it's really training wheels

but that's up and down, IMO

you can do whatever you want really with both, if you have the skills

I'm sure someone could make unity sing

that person is not me

[plush yew]

how does ue4 handle viewmodels? in unity, you just parent the model straight to the camera object, and i thought that was really weird

[rotund scroll]

idk, can you really substitute the garbage collector in c#?

[amber tangle]

speaking of asking for a world of hurt LOL

You just use a camera object

You can switch between them dynamically, reposition them, etc

set ortho, whatever

I think that'd be the closest equiv

anyone? Am I wrong there?

[lone ferry]

If you mean first person versions of weapons (Viewmodel in the Source Engine sense) you do kinda just attach it to your camera or actor. You can skip depth check to force it to render on top of anything, and also set it to self-shadow only to prevent weird ground shadows.

[amber tangle]

Yup, for like old-school FPS mode

[rotund scroll]

anyone know if it's possible to auto bind dispatchers in BP?

[amber tangle]

I think the way I generally do it is I attach the camera to the character, then use UMG for the HUD

so the character handles all the movement logic

and then you can easily do pans and stuff to get that first/third viewpoint

since with auto possess it really couldn't be easier there

Try checking out the demo content in the different modes to get an idea how they compare.

[fast gale]

hey there, any clues to why my particle effect is turning off with the camera zoomed out?

[rotund scroll]

it gets culled for being too distant?

check wireframe view if it's still present

[plush yew]

cascade has bounding box outside which you don't see gpu particles, maybe it's that or if niagara maybe that has something equivalent.

[fast gale]

thanks, it is still there and doesnt get culled in the wireframe.
I also tried changing the bounding box settings, but it still happened

not sure if this info helps, but the particle effect is using mesh data to tile the effect over the mesh

[shy spire]

LOD issue?

look in settings or change to Epic settings?

[fast gale]

I have also made a different particle effect that is similar but for the smaller sized ripples. I just noticed that this isnt culling with the camera. So i might just duplicate this one and see if I can just makle a new one from there

[shy spire]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-jakethedog-adventure-time-idunno-idk-gif-5265736

[fast gale]

@shy spire thanks, I'll have a look into these settings too

[shy spire]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-approved-gif-3367901

[fast gale]

alright, I worked out why now, it was to do with he waterplane that was underneath it. If I hide this then the particle doesnt get culled. but now I dont know why it happens with that water 🤔

[shy spire]

To question your intellect?

[fast gale]

?

[shy spire]

was a joke

[low trail]

Hey guys, there's some way to make a sound shorter inside unreal? (without touching the pitch multiplier option)

[tiny pier]

How can I line trace, or generate overlap events with, or otherwise interact with foliage, at run time?

Nothing shows up with a line trace, or box collision. It's like the trees aren't there.

[dim arch]

how can I check which version of DirectX the editor is using?

[plush yew]

how can I set a mode for my game where I can take pictures easily, I don't want to see the UI but is there something in the editor I can do rather than manually hide it on begin play

[grim ore]

You can look into adding the Ansel plugin

@dim arch mouse over the project name in the top right of the editor

[unique finch]

I've been trying to bind in-game console command to certain keys, the command looks like:
SetBind BindName[FName] Command[FString]

Can somebody give me an example of how I would format it? Specifically I'm looking to change my FoV

[grim ore]

@tiny pier I just tested and had no issues here. Collision for foliage using the Foliage Tool came back as an Instanced Foliage Actor. I had to turn on the Collision for the object as by default they had none

@unique finch where do you see that command, it does not come up for me in the console command listing

[unique finch]

Oh it comes up in the in-game console in Mordhau

Sorry I don't have much experience with this stuff

[grim ore]

that might be something they added in then

[unique finch]

I tried:
SetBind q m.FOV 80
and
SetBind BindName[q] Command[m.FOV 80]
but neither of them worked

I feel like I'm just formatting it wrong

Is that how it's supposed to look? Like do I put the key & command in the brackets? Or leave a space in between them and the other stuff?

[dim arch]

@grim ore it doesnt show the DX version, just engine and project configuration

version/branch/build/date

[grim ore]

https://i.imgur.com/FiIjizI.png @dim arch

[dim arch]

not getting that

on 4.21

[grim ore]

maybe you are not running it on windows?

or it's an older version

[dim arch]

it's running in windows

this is the output log when I boot the project, it seems like it uses LogD3D11

I can't find any flag for DX12 in the output log

[grim ore]

seems like it, weird that your tooltip doesnt show it

[dim arch]

yeah, thats kinda strange

is there some project conf which can show/hide it?

[grim ore]

this is a clean install so nothing was changed

[dim arch]

launching the editor with -dx12 flag

[grim ore]

https://i.imgur.com/JMS8X1e.png

[dim arch]

seems to work, but it's kinda weird that I cant see anywhere which version is enabled, also, an editor launch flag is the only way to enable dx12

[grim ore]

thats the same output I get but I have DirectX 12 in the tooltip

and yes an editor launch flag is normal for it

[dim arch]

I am using a dense polygon mesh in the scene, apparently dx12 has better perf

well, I just tried with DX12 the performance is comparable, guess it is isnt that significant

[grim ore]

ah yeah it's not shown in 4.21, I guess they added it to .22

DX12 tends to offload from the CPU and put more on the GPU or vice versa, I can't remember lol, but i has to be supported properly and your project needs to take advantage of it. with a 1050ti I doubt DX12 would make a difference

[dim arch]

just checked, its in my 4.22 build so yea

ok, well I am trying to increase performance for a scene with a very dense mesh, and read that DX12 can help with that. I think now that UE is being used for film projects multi-million poly scenes will become a lot more popular

Ill test it with the 2x2080 rig

[grim ore]

chances are it can but with your GPU it's not going to help much. the easiest thing to do is run the project in dx11, open up taska manager, and look at the CPU and GPU usage

then compare it with DX12.

[dim arch]

ok Ill try that later

[grim ore]

I'm not on my machine so I cant remember which one DX12 helps with more lol. I know it's pretty obvious for me on a larger project between the 2 but in the end the results where similar. It was more of 100% CPU 20% GPU or 80% GPU and 20% CPU type swap

[dim arch]

so dx12 can offload work to the CPU when it comes to drawing a mesh or?

[grim ore]

thats the thing I can't remember 😦

[dim arch]

I guess Ill read into it more, dont worry

[grim ore]

sorry about it lol, all my normal stuff is really light and I am not an artist so I never cared beyond the fact the end result was the same

[dim arch]

I am just curious how these applications like zbrush can keep a consistently high frame rate on multi-million poly meshes, but maya/ue etc choke super hard when it comes to polycount

[grim ore]

really good question 😃 smart programmers I would assume lol

[unique finch]

@grim ore If u were trying to bind the command "m.FOV 80" to the "Q' key in
SetBind BindName[FName] Command[FString]
what would u type? I feel like the answer is easy but I'm just formatting it wrong

[grim ore]

I would assume it's just SetBind m.FOV 80

the [FName] is just specifying that the BindName is of type FName, same with the Command[FString]

but again I have no idea how they are handling it, it's not a default UE4 command

[unique finch]

Ah ok

Where would the key go though?

[grim ore]

then maybe it's SetBind O "m.FOV 80"

no clue tho

[fierce rampart]

I wonder when 4.23's coming out.

[unique finch]

Oh well, I had to message a dev, thanks for trying to help Matthew

[grim ore]

2 months!

[rancid jay]

Should be next month. Looking at how it is always 90-110days+ per update. (Not hotfix)

[grim ore]

they are off for 2 weeks, then another 2-4 weeks of previews at the minimum. It branched off for 4.23 last week so I would assume the first week back is the first preview week.

It's sad, there has been no updates to master for 4 days 😦

[worn granite]

Imagine it'll stay at that last commit for until they get back

[shell compass]

I'm curious as to how Insurgency Sandstorm managed to do level loading progress % indicators.

That's something I've been struggling to achieve

[regal mulch]

Can we actually modify the wiki by now again?

[brittle gulch]

Is there some documentation / explanation about the two bone IK FUNCTION somewhere?

[lone zinc]

Hello ! It's me again how are you ?

[regal mulch]

@brittle gulch I found tons of documentation and information by just entering the node name + ue4 into google

Try that first please

[brittle gulch]

@regal mulch I did it as well, but it's not the same node. It's Two Bone IK FUNCTION that I'm searching for. Not the regular animation graph node

[regal mulch]

My bad! I'd assume it works similar though. A first step would be trying to understand what the parameters are representing

Effector and JointTarget seem to be the same as on the anim grap node

So Root, Joint and End Pos are open

[brittle gulch]

Yes, I think I'll try different things out to figure out, seems that nobody really tried to use it. Or there's just no demonstration anywhere.
It's Joint and End pos that are confusing.
I think Root Pos is the skeletal mesh root bone location. But Joint and End... 🤔

[regal mulch]

Most likely the current location

It's what ComponentPose gives you

And I guess no one uses it cause most people use the anim graph

[brittle gulch]

Ahh! The current location of the start and end bone, right?
And yes, I'm also using the anim graph, but I need to find a way to simulate the IK before it actually updates the animation. And I think this function can help me.

[hearty cosmos]

is it possible to use a colored texture like an IES lighting?

[shell compass]

@hearty cosmos I don't think IES profiles can be colored, but you can just mix an IES profile together with a colored light texture instead.

[hearty cosmos]

🤔

https://giphy.com/gifs/squidward-oJqxgojdanmvu

interesting, I think I got it to work, thank you

[honest vale]

https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/feedback-for-epic/1632812-skylight-recapture

@grave nebula I like how the guy replying didn't even read what you wrote

or didn't understand it

😄

[honest vale]

why not just have an RGB param?

[grave nebula]

@honest vale ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[serene birch]

just write a shader for it then

[cloud cobalt]

Just have a material parameter

And create a dyn instance

[wary wave]

material parameters for this kind of thing are trivial

[serene birch]

there's literally no way for you to do what you want without a material parameter

unless you somehow manage to pass it as a vertex parameter but it's a worse option no matter what I think 😄

[cloud cobalt]

Yep, doesn't work that way here

We're not in the days of the fixed pipeline anymore

It's usually better tbh

Materials in UE4 allow for some crazy stuff, you can have complex animation in there

Or do the animation directly with a time node and whatever logic, if it's simple enough

But yeah

[wary wave]

I'd have just used one mesh

and done the effect in the material

much like Stranger is suggesting

[cobalt swan]

Hey guys, i'm pretty new to the UE4 community, and am a former ROBLOX developer of 6 years ( 😆 yeah, I know, it's pretty rubbish) and was wondering if anyone had any good suggestions on where to get started and how to enhance my knowledge through some decent tutorials/websites/libraries or anything of the sort. Cheers

[wary wave]

UE4's content samples project is usually a good thing to look through

gives you an overview of what systems exist and how they can be employed

[cobalt swan]

Sweet, thank you 😃

[dawn holly]

Hey Guys, I have an issue I can't seem to find a fix to. I am making an endless runner which is switching between platforms using timelines and setactorlocations. however when you switch between the platforms while you are jumping, i made it wait until the jump is finished and then switch platform. From 1st platform to second the switch animation (timeline+setposition) plays well but from 2nd to first the game skips the animation (happens only on every second try). Does anyone have any experience with this overly specific issue? sorry if its misplaced

[stoic cobalt]

is there any way i can see a default value for a variable/console command?

[loud spindle]

Hi guys,

I have a question regarding clothing/cloth simulation in UE 4.22.

I would like to know if there is a way to set the cloth simulation to have a specific rest state or even a state it conforms back to after simulation.

Example of what I mean would be for hairstyle say...

If you have a hair style that combs from front to back over the head with some volume, If I paint cloth weights onto the hair and hit simulate it will move out of the required hairstyle position and lose volume. I understand that the gravity etc will affect the style of the hair straightaway and of course it will move dependent on the painted weights value, but what I'm hoping for is a solution say for the hairstyle to be affected with inertia or wind, whilst retaining the volume and shape, allowing movement, but once the movement of the skeletal mesh is stationary it then conforms back to the initial state/hairstyle.

[gloomy acorn]

hey guys, if i have my own steam app id, how can i filter my game in the servers list (in Steam)? i can only find predefined games in the Change Filter

[calm widget]

Anyone know why my landscape grass type just stopped working? It worked last night when i closed it but now it stopped working across all levels just out of the blue.

[wary wave]

most likely a file not saved

[calm widget]

I checked all the relevant files they seem to be in order. Also, i shouldve tried this before but it seems to be working in PIE, just not in the editor

But it has always worked in the editor before

[wary wave]

in which case it seems to be a visibility flag somewhere

[calm widget]

Strange, i dont even know where to begin look for that. Since it's not placed in the outliner and i've never been tinkering with it outside of the landscape material or the actual landscape grass type

Anyway i created a new material and a new grass type and tried it, still the same problem. I'll dig around a bit

Seems to have been a problem with disabled real time under viewport options, in case anyone ever searches for the same problem here

[lilac ember]

what needs to be done if the client in switch authority returns authority ?

[cloud cobalt]

Whatever needs to be done on server, basically

Maybe nothing, maybe all of your game logic

[lilac ember]

well in let's ask the question better when does client return authority

in what cases

[cloud cobalt]

If it's a locally spawned actor

That's not replicated at all

[lilac ember]

but I changed all clases in replicated

what do I need to change the variables too idk man

[cloud cobalt]

I'm not sure I can help you here. If your actors need to be replicate,d they need to be created on the server (spawned there, or in the level), and marked as replicated

[dim merlin]

Hi, anyone know its possible to remove grass at runtime?

[lilac ember]

so I need to replicate all the stuff earlier

[shell compass]

@lilac ember http://cedric-neukirchen.net/2017/02/14/multiplayer-network-compendium/ <-- This helped me tremendeously in understanding how the networking works in UE4.

[lilac ember]

is not virus?

[wary wave]

lol no

[shell compass]

It's a pdf

[lilac ember]

oh

thank you

[sudden agate]

yeah read that first before you try anything multiplayer related

[wary wave]

read it whilst doing something multiplayer related

[lilac ember]

I will read the hole thingh and then I will try to share my conclusion why it doesn't work

[wary wave]

it's more useful as a reference

[lilac ember]

oh shit I actualy fucking fixed it

thank a lot @shell compass

[shell compass]

How is it possible that something works when I place a breakpoint in a function, but once I remove it, that code doesn't work any more?

Maybe so...

[azure shore]

hey, is there a thing I can do to simply make the darkness of a basic texture changeable?

[shell compass]

@azure shore During runtime?

[azure shore]

no, I mean like edit them for surfaces on the map

like a slider or something

[shell compass]

You probably want material instances in that case

[azure shore]

yeah, I was thinking that

Im not great with them though

[shell compass]

It's easy. In your main material, hold 3 and click to add a basic color node. Then right-click that and choose "Convert to Parameter", and give it a name

Then right click your main material and choose "Create material instance". And then in that instance you can quickly change that parameter you just made to make something unique

@plush yew sure seems like a race condition I suppose. It doesn't happen when I build in DebugGame mode and launch from VS in debugging mode. Ugh. That tutorial never mentioned that this would happen...

urge to defenestrate computer rising...

[azure shore]

oh, thanks

[plush yew]

Guys i need help

How to optimalize gamę?

Game

[visual belfry]

1. profile, see what needs to be optimized

[plush yew]

I mean i build 4 trees and i had 15 FPS, but i have very Good pc

[azure shore]

what parts are you trying to optimise

[plush yew]

Graphic

[azure shore]

did you make the trees yourself?

[plush yew]

Nope

[azure shore]

oh

can you import them into blender or something?

[plush yew]

I think yea

Yes

[azure shore]

if theyre super detailed or something then that would do it I think

uh so in blender you might be able to add the decimate modifier

to reduce polies a bit

[plush yew]

Hm super natural pack in the market

[azure shore]

but it could also be texture

wait try taking off the tree textures

[visual belfry]

4 trees shouldn't kill performance that much though... what are your actual computer specs? (cpu and gpu)

[plush yew]

Oh godness thanks

[azure shore]

then see if thats doing it

[plush yew]

Without tree txt game is Good

[wary wave]

yeah, my first question is what are the PC specs

[vast fjord]

is there any way to limit the turn radius of the 3d character?
basically I want it to snap to a direction of movement rather than rotate to it

[kindred viper]

clamp

[vast fjord]

how do i find that?

[kindred viper]

right click the graph, type clamp

[earnest cape]

How do you add collision to the character? Like if I put a sphere in front of him to make that collide with the world

[vast fjord]

is this right?

[hoary silo]

Im looking into learning python, does ue4 use python 1, 2, or 3?

Or does it even matter

[fringe berry]

A quick google says that theres a plugin for working with pythom that uses python 2.7

But i wouldnt know much more than that

[hoary silo]

Ok thanks

[visual belfry]

2.7 as mentioned ^

not on 3 because of vfx industry standards I think

[kindred viper]

funny that because I was doing some stuff and people were complaining of the flawed nature of 2.7, for which 3+ was the fix

it makes it a pain in the arse too when you are trying to do things between different supported apps

[manic pawn]

why are people still using python 2 in 2019

there is no excuse

[kindred viper]

I've used it maybe 3 times, and even I know that. But I guess often its built into licensed tools that can't really be rebought or changed or something. So backwards compatibility trumps the progressive nature of what a language should be.

[sacred smelt]

Anyone can you look on piece of my destructible object? Destroy works, damage hit prints but dont work ApplyDamage from projectile. Any tips?

{
    UE_LOG(LogTemp, Warning, TEXT("damage hit"));
    DestructibleComp->ApplyDamage(Damage, HitLocation, ImpulseDir, Impulse);
}```

Or maybe I need function in projectile class?

[radiant haven]

someone here for AI?

to help

[abstract relic]

#gameplay-ai

[grim ore]

so first, define 2 players. one game, 2 character objects? 2 separate players using a dedicated server? 2 separate players using a listen server?

dedicated server somewhere or how is that being handled?

well your client knows nothing about the other characters unless you tell it, that is the servers job

how did that other player get on your screen?

and then that tells your client to spawn in the instance of that player on the local machine right?

so then at that point you have a local version of that player, anything you do to it would be local unless you tell the server about it

with normal UE4 networking each client has a copy of each object, and the server does as well (listen or dedicated)

if you were to say destroy a player on client 1, it would only be gone for player 1

to handle it correctly over the network you would tell the server to destroy that player, and then the server would tell all clients to destroy the local copy

i dont know how your networking works, but I assume the same way with server authoritative

also player controllers for this question only matter for the server since clients don't have access to other controllers

if you are the client, and you say "hey client change the player character on this client to purple, it would only change the character on your machine to purple

[lilac ember]

to play a montage play it needs to run on server and then from there multicast .. well I did all of that and when I print string after the play montage it even says the client and server runs it but it doesn't do the animation what could be the problem

[grim ore]

this is assuming that variable is not replicated and you are not having the server change it, any client changes should only affect the client

the material should update locally, your copy of your material on your player

it's actually the biggest issue people run into when doing networking is getting the correct thing to happen lol

people start with the listen server and when they switch to dedicated or test on the client it doesnt work and they start complaining lol

UE4's networking should not be much different than your existing system, its a standard RPC setup

@lilac ember how are you playing the montage?

[lilac ember]

the branch ask for authoristtion fi you wondering

authorisation

idk

techninaly it should work

[grim ore]

so a print string on the end of the Fire Animation Montage after the Set Duration prints out what?

[lilac ember]

client0 client1 and server

[grim ore]

so that part is firing, your montage is just not. Did you check to see if you are passing in the correct index?

[lilac ember]

and it onnly play the animation for itself

yeah all correct

I was thinking maybe it has to do somethingh with the checkbox replicate movement

not sure though I check it everywhere

[grim ore]

are you sure the go on server is firing, since you are calling it from the true on the check as well

unhook the true and see what happens

[lilac ember]

you mean like this

to always go on server?

or to always go on multicast without going on server first

[grim ore]

no I mean just unook the execute wire after true so the local play fire animation montage never fires

so its true -> nothing, false -> Go On Server

to make sure you are actually seeing the Go On Server fire your prints and not the other one

[lilac ember]

well it behaves as you expect if the client shoots it goes on server then multicast if the server shoots notingh happens

[grim ore]

but it still prints out the 3 prints?

[lilac ember]

let me check

yeah all 3 as it should be

[grim ore]

ok was just trying to make sure the go On Server actually fired off on all 3 😦

[lilac ember]

I am really not sure why it doesn't work bcecause I managed to spawn bullet for all 3 in the same blueprint class

[grim ore]

well if the print string works then it has to be the play animation montage node not firing correctly, so not really a networking issue being called

[lilac ember]

but I checked even inside

maybe

the owner is wrong

if I go where it gets played I end up here but the inputs are all correct and server client client is here too

maybe target is wrong but I don't think so

play rate maybe

[grim ore]

welp time to start debugging lol, print out the montage it's supposed to play there and see what each client says

the replicated call is just not getting the correct data sent, or those clients just dont have the correct data to play it back correctly and I would have to guess it's the montage to play that is the issue

[lilac ember]

I checked all 3 inputs of montage play and they are the same

[grim ore]

yep I just tried a simple setup and it worked here... something must not be getting passed in properly

[lilac ember]

oh

I found somethingh I tried to print out self

here

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/225448446956404738/593119310797340674/unknown.png

and they are diffrent

I mean idk they have to be diffrent though

[wary wave]

lol

[lilac ember]

shouldn't be the target the same?

[wary wave]

yes

looks like you're spawning three different actors

[lilac ember]

uhm what do I need to give them a self component and use that as target

[grim ore]

at a basic level https://i.imgur.com/oo3gSc6.png and https://i.gyazo.com/2070719cf5ca630bad5acb724401dfbf.gif

[lilac ember]

yeah but I am using ability motnage which then calls a

motage plau

play

[grim ore]

ability montage is just a custom event

it calls montage play later on

on your montage play you should see if the correct character is being passed in and the correct montage

[lilac ember]

well yeah the same character

[grim ore]

well that should be the local character right?

[grim ore]

and is the correct montage being set to play?

because beyond that 😦 If it plays on one character your anim bp is correct, past that the montage play just needs the correct info to play lol

[plush yew]

😃

[plush yew]

my graphic

[grim ore]

well crap 😦

[lilac ember]

it has to do somethingh with this

[plush yew]

idk

this is animation?

or somethink

[grim ore]

in the example I sent you I have replicate movement on, it's the default and it's how you can see them moving without any extra code in networking

[lilac ember]

@grim ore is there a rule or somethingh that a animation can not be played in a function with multicast maybe

oh wait I found it maybe

could be this the cause

[grim ore]

yeah its not the function part, I just tested that

[lilac ember]

na that is not the problem either

[grim ore]

I would say disconnect the inputs on your montage play, force in something you know works so a connection to the character anim instance, a montage that you can see work (doesnt matter what it is), the correct play rate and start time

that would atleast let you know if forcing a montage play even works

and maybe disconnect the execute after that just so it comes in, plays the montage, and plays the montage only lol

but the fact all of this code plays locally but not replicated makes it feel like the other clients are not getting the call (you verified they are), or are not getting the correct data (which it seems like they are...)

[karmic basalt]

Is there a way to customize this section of the view?

[grim ore]

@karmic basalt edit the source code, or turn on minimal view (removes words and makes small icons)

[lilac ember]

hmm Ok i try that

[karmic basalt]

@grim ore All I'm trying to do is to add the ProjectLauncher in there.

[grim ore]

It's under the launch menu, besides that it's not customizable

should be able to

are you trying to change the color?

I wouldnt assume what you are trying would work adding more color to a brown color

there is also a set vector parameter value node that allows you to plug in a V4 or linear color

so you might just not be using the right node

you are targetting a mesh component

so that is the wrong node

[lilac ember]

no it won't play even a simple montage only on itiself

[grim ore]

https://docs.unrealengine.com/Images/Engine/Rendering/Materials/MaterialInstances/ConstructionScriptForMID.jpg

you should be able to get the material from the mesh as well

[lilac ember]

techninaly it could be that it doesn't have the autority to play

the montage

[grim ore]

which would be weird since you are playing it locally

[lilac ember]

so it only plays on itself

yeah but the animation play itself for himself but not for others

[grim ore]

the server is just telling everyone to run that event locally, which plays the animation locally

[lilac ember]

yeah

xd

I think I will be stuck with this problem for the next days

[grim ore]

its a weird problem since by default it works fine, something is off with the system you are using

[lilac ember]

I got it

so I tried this instead lol

ahahahah well it doesn't explain why it works

I changed the montage to this and now it plays the animation

but why

maybe

[grim ore]

that is weird

[lilac ember]

what is the diffrent between a animation montage and a play animation

it shouldn't be that diffrent that one works and one not

[grim ore]

well a montage is pretty much just a group of animations

but montages have to be set up correctly in the animbp, which it should have been since it was working

[lilac ember]

so I have to change somethingh in animbp class?

[grim ore]

missed the question tho lol, i am guessing you are still playing the same montage?

which means my answer was not useful. Uhm this node just plays the animation while the play montage plays it the same but has some extra parameters for controlling it

[lilac ember]

well I think that could be the problem because I started replicating all maybe I didn't replicate a varibale like is in combat

ah ok

[grim ore]

that is a thought as well but it's your code so no Idea what controls your animations and such 😦

[lilac ember]

so it the play animation montage does noto interfer with the animation class?

[grim ore]

It's just weird it would work on one client and not the others

[lilac ember]

I need to be more get more info about that

[grim ore]

I mean that is literally just a replication or RPC issue but it seemed like it was replicating fine and calling events fine

[lilac ember]

YEP

watch

[grim ore]

but maybe for some reason something somewhere was settings your variables incorrectly, like something was saying "hey all clients, your character reference is this one character and not your local one" or something like that

[lilac ember]

it works with montage with this

[grim ore]

yeah that would do it if not replicating that variable

[lilac ember]

yeah

THX a lot mathew

[grim ore]

hopefully we both learned a few things from this adventure lol 😃

[lilac ember]

well that motages interfer with the animation class was new to me

yeah :DD

[grim ore]

well the blend pose is the key for making a montage work, which you have and it was working so I assumed you just used the normal blend lol

[lilac ember]

I must say unreal is really unforgiving we spent what 2 hours for one click lol

[grim ore]

well it's like anything, if you do something without 100% understanding how it works you will get bitten in the ass later

forget to plug in the CPU power plug on a new computer build, an hour later when it doesnt start...... noooooo

[lilac ember]

well yeah that's true

[grim ore]

or hell lol, this one is super common. forget to peel off the plastic from a CPU for the thermalpaste and wonder why it keeps shutting off weeks later

[lilac ember]

lol

yeah well if you look it a other way we found the on click in the millions clicks

[grim ore]

😃

[kindred viper]

you should feel the anticipation of finding out what is. Its superb

[hexed kraken]

hi everyone

[grim ore]

hola @hexed kraken

[hexed kraken]

hey @grim ore what's up

guys I am new here, anyone good with networking stuff ?

[grim ore]

#multiplayer might be better at networking, but general stuff might be answered here

@plush yew is the hair a skeletal mesh or a static mesh? or is it part of the player with it's own material

[hexed kraken]

thanks @grim ore I tried there my question it seams a little dead at this moment

[grim ore]

at some point you need to create a new dynamic material instance then for that mesh and save it to a variable so you can access it later

how is that a problem?

why not?

if you have the mesh, you can create an instance for it

ok so if you want to change the same thing in multiple materials, look into a material parameter collection then

then you just set up each material with that parameter, from the collection, and you can change that one parameter once and it changes on any materials using it

without any need to access the meshes using it

so you want to change the hair color but only for that one hair style that is being shown?

but if they change to another hair style it goes back to the default color?

sounds like the material parameter collection would be fine if you just want to generically have a parameter like tint or hair color in multiple materials

no reason once you go back to default or the next one you can't set it back to default

[lilac ember]

hm can you like run somethingh on server in a function?

is there a way?

[grim ore]

functions or events should run fine on a server

[lilac ember]

yeah but like there is this function set in combat which gets called like 7 times

[grim ore]

a parameter should work like any other node in the material and propogate down

[lilac ember]

@grim ore if there is a function that set a variable and does other stuff

and I need it to run on server

can you do it in the function itself or in the events is the only way?

[grim ore]

I don't see why it would not work in the function

[lilac ember]

how you do it in the function

is there a metodh you need to call ?

[grim ore]

the same was as the event I would assume, I think I am missing something here

[lilac ember]

well you can't do custom events in function

[regal mulch]

If you need to move from Client to Server (on a client-owned actor of course), then this is only possible via a CustomEvent.
Functions can't be RPCs.

[grim ore]

correct, events are in the event graph. Functions are part of the event graph

[lilac ember]

so I need to do it in the event graph?

[regal mulch]

RPCs, yes

Or you use C++ :P then everything is a function

[lilac ember]

ah

so I need to run it on server all 7 times it gets called the function

[regal mulch]

Well that's something only you know

None of us knows your code

[grim ore]

use a component mask if you want to convert the 4 -> 3

[bright aspen]

is there a way to edit a scene while the game is running to test scenarios?

[grim ore]

man I have been trying to figure out the new Editor Menu system in the dev-editor branch for like 2 weeks and I just can't find it lol 😦

[regal mulch]

new Editor Menu system Sorry, what?

[grim ore]

https://github.com/EpicGames/UnrealEngine/commit/0f668849f6f5f0106e659e600a2df4fbd48433e9 and another more recent update

but the module doesnt seem to be loaded and I can't see any of the functions in the palette that are listed

[bleak steppe]

Hey guys does emissive color means the color that glows???

[grim ore]

It gives the appearance of glowing when using higher values yes.

[bleak steppe]

Oh alright.. And how do I control it more effectively? Via normal maps or textures??

[plush yew]

Guys

[grim ore]

what is effectively? probably a texture I would assume

[plush yew]

Now, Who are making the game?

Mów

Now

[grim ore]

https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Resources/ContentExamples/MaterialNodes/1_5/index.html

[bleak steppe]

Like if I want more control, to put the emitting over a particular area of the mesh?

Thank you for the link :D

[grim ore]

then yeah a simple black and white mask texture that you multiply would work

[plush yew]

Wtf

Why

[bleak steppe]

U want to talk?

[plush yew]

Yes

[regal mulch]

Stop spamming the channel, go to #lounge

[plush yew]

Eh

[bleak steppe]

Um no offence but I face a little bit of problem understanding the foreign accent so.. XD

Oh sorry man.. @regal mulch

Hey man this really looks cool.. Do u use blender to create ur characters? @plush yew

Oh.. I am trying to make some characters in blender.. Wish me luck :D

[plush yew]

whos talk?

[abstract relic]

Will tell you of a trick. Use a small amount of fresnel for hair

[plush yew]

what is fresnel bro?

which type of game you was making?

[abstract relic]

Ah that’s easy: mask * colour parameter

[plush yew]

hm thanks

[snow crown]

👍🏾

[proper crane]

My ants Physics Asset is still wonky as fuck and ignoring collision in some instances, but I'm moving into importing and setting up animation blueprint anyway. Could this work out fine?

[digital anchor]

shouldnt it be [0..1]

[abstract relic]

Well you’re masking out the rbg of your color parm, might want to address that first 😜

[regal mulch]

@proper crane Not that I often work with such stuff, but I'm half sure that a Physics Asset should work properly to begin with.
You are also not likely to use the Physics asset unless you let the ant do ragdoll or?

[plush yew]

anyone else can go to the voice chat/

?

[proper crane]

@regal mulch It seems like it would work as a ragdoll, but some bones may not collide properly

[regal mulch]

Well as far as I used it, it's all about adding a collision primitive to a bone

And linking it to the next one

while making sure the angles are limited

(e.g. an arm shouldn't rotate backwards.. ouch)

[proper crane]

I've done that, it just doesn't completely work in any instance I've tried

[regal mulch]

Now the question is: Where is it going wrong for you

[proper crane]

Well, here's a question, can weight put on a collision force it into other meshes?

Cause it seems like some parts of limbs on my ant phase into the flooring in the Physics Asset editor

[digital anchor]

whats the problem?

[plush yew]

guys anyone else how to optimize game?

[abstract relic]

(Multiply)

[digital anchor]

the mask is backwards

you should mask RGB

[frank iron]

hi guys, i noticed timers pause too when you pause the game. I wanted to implement a countdown timer when the user unpauses the game but the time wont tick since the game is paused. is there a workaround?

[plush yew]

i dont know

[digital anchor]

ye it was right

[abstract relic]

General rule is: using a texture mask >>> multiple with desired value

Hot red 👌

[dusty prism]

Is it possible to make a triple A game using only blueprints

Im a complet beginner ok

Dont say im trolling

[abstract relic]

Don't about making a AAA game. It's literally impossible for a single individual.

[kindred viper]

Give me $50m and I will make you a game in blueprints only

[grim ore]

It is possible yes, but more than likely if you were making a AAA game you would not use pure BP.

[dusty prism]

Oh thanks

:D

[regal mulch]

If we are only talking about the programming side of things, than yeah, that's possible, but then you have to ask, what makes a game AAA in terms of programming?

[tall pendant]

or what makes an AAA in general...

hint: it's not just code and graphics

[dusty prism]

Waht else

Ofc animations etc ...

Like every game 🤔

Or an AAA game is just a very good game?

[tall pendant]

let me rephrase: it's not only the content.

[dusty prism]

Ok an AAA game is just a game that is made by a very big company/team

Only that?

The opposite of it is "indie game"

[sinful kayak]

hello

can some one help me ona touch and drag BP

[glad brook]

Anyone experienced with unity ?

Which is more efficient ?

[kindred viper]

depends what you need

[glad brook]

Looking for a learn to code c++ with unreal tutorial but I found none

I only find c# unity .. and lots of them

[kindred viper]

perhaps you are looking incorrectly as there are hundreds

[glad brook]

Even the paid ones in Udemy

[kindred viper]

https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Programming/Tutorials/index.html

[grim ore]

do... not.. learn.... C++ with Unreal.

learn C++ outside of unreal

[glad brook]

I'm getting familiar with it from c# background ..

Pointers just make sense yesterday

[rotund scroll]

I thought you could hack time

[glad brook]

But what does this do ->

[rotund scroll]

what do you need c++ for?!

[grim ore]

cool. cool. If you don't know C++ then don't use UE4 to learn it, learn it normally outside of UE4 then apply that to Unreal once you know C++

[loud spindle]

Hi guys,

I have a question regarding clothing/cloth simulation in UE 4.22.

I would like to know if there is a way to set the cloth simulation to have a specific rest state or even a state it conforms back to after simulation.

Example of what I mean would be for hairstyle say...

If you have a hair style that combs from front to back over the head with some volume, If I paint cloth weights onto the hair and hit simulate it will move out of the required hairstyle position and lose volume. I understand that the gravity etc will affect the style of the hair straightaway and of course it will move dependent on the painted weights value, but what I'm hoping for is a solution say for the hairstyle to be affected with inertia or wind, whilst retaining the volume and shape, allowing movement, but once the movement of the skeletal mesh is stationary it then conforms back to the initial state/hairstyle.

[kindred viper]

-> is a member so if an object had a var or function it would be accessed like MyObject->MyFunc();

[rotund scroll]

like a . in c#

[kindred viper]

well there is a . syntax also

[grim ore]

-> is if something is a pointer, . if it's not a pointer

and burn C++ to the ground

[rotund scroll]

admittedly c++ syntax is tedious

[glad brook]

MyObject::myfunc() or MyObject->myFunc()

[grim ore]

both are different

#cpp if you really need C++ questions answered, if not https://www.learncpp.com/

[glad brook]

Need a real world use case tutorials

[grim ore]

then look thru the code for the engine and pick it apart, it's as real world as you are going to get

but the fact you are asking the difference between scope (::) and calling a function (->) indicates there are still some fundamental C++ knowledge you need to understand first.

I mean I guess if you are really adamant on this the Udemy course for learning C++ with UE4 is valid https://www.udemy.com/unrealcourse/ and it's real world use case tutorials

[kindred viper]

I was adamant enough to trawl through the source code and figure it out manually. I googled a bit, but mostly it makes sense if you know a bit of code anyway

[glad brook]

What I need is like unity tutorials
Learning codes as we make simple games.

Some tutors explains in detail what a code does

Unreal tutorials are : I expect u to know c++ let's get on with it. Copy past my code

[grim ore]

then look at the link or trawl thru YouTube there are a few C++ courses on there for UE4

and correct, an intelligent teacher will assume you know normal C++ before trying to show you how C++ works in UE4.

an intelligent teacher who is trying to teach you C++ will not have you learn it in UE4, you will learn it outside of UE4 then start applying that knowledge to UE4

[glad brook]

I think this is why unity has more mass adoption ?

[safe rose]

No it's not.

[rotund scroll]

unity was out first

[safe rose]

But there are more resources out

Umm, not sure if it was truly "out" before

[kindred viper]

Unity was competing with UE3 at the time

[safe rose]

I mean, before 4.0 sure

[rotund scroll]

it definitely was

[safe rose]

No..

[rotund scroll]

before ue4? yes it was

[safe rose]

You are talking different things imho

[kindred viper]

Unreal engine is 20 years old but its about versions :p

[safe rose]

UE4 is just the latest version of Unreal

[rotund scroll]

that's not really true

[safe rose]

Just like Udemy 2019 or whatever it's called

[visual belfry]

that's not a useful comparison then victor

[safe rose]

That's like 100% true

[rotund scroll]

it's not one engine

[abstract relic]

It’s more so unity is designed to prey on inexperienced developers and feeds on their insecurities

[rotund scroll]

it's had parts replaced to become a new engine

new renderer etc.

[kindred viper]

its got an RHI

[safe rose]

The only difference is that UE4 redid a lot of stuff to make it more user friendly

[kindred viper]

it can use many renderers

[rotund scroll]

no that's not the only difference

[grim ore]

Anywhoo Reuben Ward and Virtus are both doing/have Learn C++ courses that start with the basics if you want to learn C++ and UE4

[rotund scroll]

under the hood it's completely different

[safe rose]

But at its core... UE4 is just a suped-up version of UDK/UE3.5

whatever you want to call it

Redesigned for the masses

[glad brook]

Sometimes it's convenience people prefer. Like Pubg more popular than battlefield 5

[rotund scroll]

anyway

[safe rose]

Under the hood...UE4 is definitely not that far off from UDK

You can literally see plenty of code still referencing the old unrealscript ways

[rotund scroll]

unity became mainstream around what, 2007? and a lot of indies started using it

[kindred viper]

Kismet2 - Electric Boogaloo

[safe rose]

Unity was free

And that's what gave it an appeal for indies

Other than it being more user friendly than UDK

and other engines

[visual belfry]

UDK was free 🤷

[safe rose]

UDK was

But I am just oversimplifying this

UE3/3.5 was not

[grim ore]

Let's all ignore the fact that Blueprint is called Kismet under the hood 😉

[kindred viper]

yeah they had a choice. UDK + licence cost. or what 500k license for full engine source? Unity was ahead in the indie game before UE. But that all changed the day UE4 was released

[safe rose]

And so not to confuse people

I'm just saying UDK

Right

Unity was just free first that's all

And was more user friendly as well

[kindred viper]

was it even free really when you had to pay the $99 to get rid of the watermark? 😄

[safe rose]

UE4 wasn't free at first remember

[rotund scroll]

it wasn't free

[safe rose]

We had a sub

[grim ore]

Unity is never free, only barbarians don't pay for the dark skin

[rotund scroll]

the low fi version was free, and it was pretty bad

it did have simpler pipelines

that most likely contributed

[kindred viper]

Technically we had a sub, but in reality, they paid us all our money back when it went free. Because Epic.

[safe rose]

😃 Well, I mean, we can go back and forth about the particulars if needed

[rotund scroll]

e.g. drop an image into the engine -> it's now a texture

[safe rose]

But that's just bottlenecking the current discussion

[rotund scroll]

as far back as I remember udk didn't have that

[safe rose]

Unity had a good start because it was free and more user-friendly

[kindred viper]

UDK had factories

[safe rose]

Before UE4 came along and became free as well

Also

C# vs C++

[lapis bronze]

Saying unity is for inexperienced developers is silly when most of the successful indie games are made with it.

[rotund scroll]

unity essentially had some 5 years of a headstart

[safe rose]

C# is fundamentally a lot easier to pick up than C++

But, Blueprints...

I think trumps both

Just my humble opinion

[kindred viper]

code is code to me. Unless its Assembler. Then its some bs someone else can do

[safe rose]

I think Unity is officially supporting a Visual Code thingie now as well?

Or in the future?

I know they just started Material Nodes

[lapis bronze]

they keep pushing it back lol

[round falcon]

Blueprints translate so much easier for me. They've helped me visualize and memorize some of the basics of C++

[rotund scroll]

they're playing catch up now

[safe rose]

Yeah, so it's a big deal. Visual Code is fundamentally just easier to pick up

[rotund scroll]

still, they have a following because they started out mac first, and I think those same people aren't prone to change

[safe rose]

Going from BP to C++ is the perfect way to start in UE4 imho

[kindred viper]

@round falcon the best thing is the reverse, when you learn how they use the C++ to make the nodes, and pins etc. Then it gets interesting

[safe rose]

You'll be using both, so might as well learn both

In Unity, you have uhh

C#, Boo, JavaScript

?

Or did they kill off Boo

Or whatever it was called

[lapis bronze]

everyone has a different "best way" do just do what you feel is best for you.

[safe rose]

I haven't used Unity in a good while, so forgive my ignorance on current Unity

[lapis bronze]

You dont have javascript in unity as of 2017

[kindred viper]

I take it on a requirements basis. If I were doing a 2d game, I'd head to Unity over UE4 any day. But if I were doing anything else, Unity can bite me :p

[safe rose]

No... there's only one real way to learn UE4 if you want to learn UE4 C++ tbh

[round falcon]

@kindred viper I really want to do that for sure. It'd really open up some fun possibilities with making my own

[safe rose]

You'll be struggling unnecessarily with UE4 C++ if you just try to deepdive into it without some background.

[lapis bronze]

You can mess with UE4 without touching C++ too so?

[kindred viper]

As long as you know Class Structure, creation, functions, conditionals, function pointers, difference between ref/ptr and can loop some stuff.... you can go far.

[safe rose]

And now...

We're going to have Python... for gameplay scripting

🔜

[lapis bronze]

Thats not confirmed, python is for editor

[glad brook]

Blueprints good for learning game logics

[safe rose]

So, that should take care of all the "non-visual scripter wannabe crybabies"

[abstract relic]

Brutal mate 😜

[safe rose]

tbh, it's going to suck for a little while though

That's 3 language that every "wannabe proficient UE4 programmer" will need to know

[lapis bronze]

What's a "non-visual scripter wannabe crybaby"

[safe rose]

It was just 2...so easy

Not that Python is hard

But, still, 2 is better than 3

[kindred viper]

its brutal but true. The dependency on factoring in non-programmers slows down progress for those who are :p

[glad brook]

So anyone decided to finally make a beginner friendly unreal c++ tutorial on YouTube ?

I will surely press the like button twice

[kindred viper]

I just linked you a bunch dude

[lapis bronze]

lol

[kindred viper]

nobody here is gonna do it for you

[rotund scroll]

@kindred viper how do you mean?

[frank escarp]

nope, python is not for gameplay

[safe rose]

@lapis bronze wrong...

[frank escarp]

python is for editor tools

[abstract relic]

Start there 😜 https://m.youtube.com

[safe rose]

python for gameplay is 100% coming

look at roadmap

[frank escarp]

i hope not

[lapis bronze]

oh its confirmed now? cool

[glad brook]

The Udemy link

Is outdated

[safe rose]

And Tim's been saying it off-handedly for awhile anyway, that some "non-visual scripting language" would come up

[glad brook]

I only follow cows vs bulls 3 lesson

[safe rose]

it just so happens that someone put it up on the roadmap as well 😃

[kindred viper]

@rotund scroll how much time goes into supporting Mono or other scripting languages into the engine detracts from development time on other areas.

[frank escarp]

sure, but they hired the skokum guys

[glad brook]

They dint update yet

[frank escarp]

i expect a new language more

[lapis bronze]

yes that part i knew. it just wasnt confirmed it was python.

[frank escarp]

and i hope its a custom lang

with a custom lang you can do some pretty damn nice stuff

skokum had some awesome ideas on it

just kinda weird syntax and weird licensing

[rotund scroll]

@kindred viper ah like that, I thought you meant during projects

[safe rose]

@frank escarp I don't mind a "custom language", but at the same time...let's be real. It would be fundamentally faster, cheaper, easier to manage if it was just Python

Or some other scripting language

[frank escarp]

main thing of skokum is that everything is a coroutine, so you can do "async" scripts

that can do stuff like

[safe rose]

LUA would have been cool

[frank escarp]

while(true)
{
shoot()
wait(1s)
}

[safe rose]

Dude

Coroutines...

the only thing I miss from Unity

[kindred viper]

we had a custom language. Unrealscript. It was pretty cool. Now we have C++ tailored for UE4. And that is cooler. So let's just use that and forget the rest /walks off into the sunset

[safe rose]

well C#

[rotund scroll]

I mean really if they're not going to rewrite the entire engine into jonathan blow's new game language, then what ARE they doing?!

[lapis bronze]

C# for gameplay

[glad brook]

When c# comes to unreal . It will go to the moon

[kindred viper]

you can get c# in unreal

[rotund scroll]

yeah

there's a plugin or something

[frank escarp]

unrealcsript was a relic of the past

today, custom langs have evolved

a LOT

[kindred viper]

yeah but it worked :p

[frank escarp]

like, a huge amount holy shit

you have LLVM today

and LLVM means "your script language is now as fast as C"

[kindred viper]

in a VM?

[frank escarp]

nope, but LLVM can also run interpreted

it even allows JIT

[kindred viper]

cool

[frank escarp]

you can do all of those at once

so you could have it be JIT for editor, and then packaging compiles everything with optimizations fully enabled

[kindred viper]

time to add Actionscript to UE4 then

thats a joke btw. dont lynch me

[glad brook]

Project Sansar

[frank escarp]

man, i need to create my own lang

its one of those CS things i HAVENT done

and i need to

[kindred viper]

I would definitely like to see some of Flash's old tools put into UMG design. It needs canvas drawing tools.

[rotund scroll]

@frank escarp do you really though

[frank escarp]

every CS nerd has to create a programming language at some point

[heavy notch]

Hello,
I have a question regarding 2D vs 3D performance for android.

I have started making sort of a bullet hell game for mobile and I am currently using spheres as bullet placeholders but when I leave the game running, the phone temperature keeps rising.

The project is basically empty and all that is happening is that bullets are spawned every 0.3 sec (with some velocity) and there are no more than 50 at any given time because they are destroyed when they go out of screen.
There is zero code in EventTick and all of the code is done in pure C++ so CPU isn't the problem.

Now, as I understand, even if I switch to 2D and use sprites, the renderer is still working in 3D and I imagine that heating will be the same.
Of course, sprites are inherently cheaper but will it make a noticable difference?

[frank escarp]

it gives a fkton of knowledge on a bunch of really hard things

like advanced text input, and graph algorithms

[rotund scroll]

have you written compilers or interpreters before?

[grim ore]

where does it show that python will be used for gameplay scripting?

[glad brook]

@heavy notch remove while loops

[frank escarp]

i have done sometthing slightly similar ish, but not advnaced

i wrote a parser-calculator for logical propositions

[kindred viper]

I created a new language for Fatal Error simulation. It comes with a pre-garbage collection that just dumps your references right before you access them everytime.

[heavy notch]

@glad brook there are no while loops, I used a timer for spawning. The code isn't the issue

[rotund scroll]

lmao

[frank escarp]

you could give it stuff like ( pA AND ( NOT pB ) )

made to learn haskell

because haskell is beyond OP for this kind of thing

[visual belfry]

I assembled gates for a floating point multiplier, can I get the card without making my own PL?

[lapis bronze]

im going to make the rest of my game in BP and you cant stop me

[kindred viper]

I made a slot machine entirely in UMG + materials. I'm probably going to hell.

[visual belfry]

sounds like you were already in hell

[rotund scroll]

lol

[glad brook]

@lapis bronze I think blueprint will take 1 hour pulling wires to make a 1 minute code

[kindred viper]

some of that logic man... it went crazy

[rotund scroll]

I wrote an interpreter in F# for school, it was not a fun time

[grim ore]

@kindred viper I did the same, not going to hell just going to purgatory for debugging 😛

[rotund scroll]

however I am glad I wasn't on the math side of things, syntax trees looked like hieroglyphs

[glad brook]

So u guys are hardcore coders

Made any game trainers ?

Online game hacks are selling like hot cakes

[kindred viper]

@grim ore my debug panel is so much fun, sometimes I get lost debugging different wins and animation outcomes 😄

@glad brook I code every day, but I wouldn't say hardcore. There are some real geniuses doing work that makes mine look like child's play.

[grim ore]

@kindred viper I've spent the last few weeks playing and watching different machines just to find different ways of showing wins and effects to avoid any real work like making lines lol

I hated making win lines when I did this in Unity

[kindred viper]

hah yeah i do that during my downtime. I was checking out some BetSoft games today as we dont get them in the UK really

[frank escarp]

@glad brook i only dabbled with cheat engine on mmos

pretty fun times getting superspeed

[glad brook]

How to do that godview hack

[abstract relic]

I only steal other people’s idea

[kindred viper]

Genius is stealing other people's ideas

[glad brook]

Tried to steal someone else trainer . Loaded in debugger .. stare at the screen for few minutes don't know what to do next

[visual belfry]

all you guys talking about slot machines and here I am watching a talk about slot machines

some sort of conspiracy today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8Lhqri8tZk

[grim ore]

yep I watched that one, it was hilarious but ultimately fruitless since its a normal 1 line machine

[kindred viper]

I only did it for a bit of an exercise, but then I figured why not do it properly

sometimes gets boring doing prototypes all day and never finishing something

[visual belfry]

I'm waiting for the punchline of how much money they made off of these shit games vs their carefully crafted ones

[grim ore]

the issue now with slot machines is they have evolved past 1/3/5/9/etc line machines into some weird ass monstrosities with 200+ pay lines and back to front and...

[visual belfry]

yeah 😄 I interned in vegas and made it a point to hit up every casino on the strip and go find the craziest slot machines

[kindred viper]

Megaways too where its dynamic reel heights

[visual belfry]

best one I played was a star wars one... wonder if those exist anymore

[kindred viper]

I really liked the Walking Dead slot in vegas. Same with the Willy Wonka slots and Ruby Slippers

[glad brook]

Anyone into crypto ?

[grim ore]

sigh yeah I completely forgot about dynamic reels. just getting a normal 3x5 reel machine working smoothly was a pain

[glad brook]

UStaticMeshComponent

UStaticMeshComponent* mesh

[kindred viper]

BigTimeGaming recently released a new Twin Motion tech which is mindblowing

its on a slot called Opal Fruits. worth checking out

[glad brook]

Mesh = CreateSubOjectComeponet<UStaticMeshComponent>()

[plush yew]

now, im making skybox

[visual belfry]

call me back when they make slot machines with roguelike mechanics

[normal burrow]

question is?

[glad brook]

What's does it mean

In English

[normal burrow]

think of the constructor as generating a layout hackerman

[kindred viper]

@visual belfry they have. In some US casinos they have FPS games that are essentially skill based slot machines. Try survive as long as you can for the win

[visual belfry]

and they're probably cheaper than the arcade 😮

[normal burrow]

when you do createdefaultsubobject

your making a slot with given name on the serialization table

you assign it to a reference with uproperty on it so it does not garbage collect

[glad brook]

Constructor , serialisation table

[little warren]

Guys I need help, how do I get the cameras borders at a certain depth?

[normal burrow]

Constructor is the only place you should really see createdefaultsubobject hackerman