But I know that this isn't straight forward, even with a PID controller :P my "CalculateQuat" function has more comments than code
#ue4-general
regal mulch
regal mulch
The I (Integral), as far as I understood, just makes the whole thing "Stronger" if the error stays too big for too long
It#s a cool little thing
regal mulch
Yeah, I just took it as it is
Threw some numbers in and it feels nice
Now I just have to get this working over network haha
Currently back to just a linear example, with not gravity, hover acceleration, collision or angular velocity
Using a good chunk of the CMC though (in a new UNavMovementComponent child)
dim dragon
Heads up, having tested it the debugdrawcone doesn't actually draw to the correct length its given. Here, it was tasked with 5000. The bounding box and the red line both also go to 5000. The cone is inconsistent.
The height is actually drawn from the origin, rather than from the source along the designated axis.
safe shoal
@cloud cobalt sorry was offline :)
You might be interested to know that I've since found out most games are using client-side authority for physics and just checking for cheating server-side.
I tried to do character-movement style kinematic movement, which was fine for some basic stuff but once vehicles got more complex and/or had more bodies and moving parts it just became a nightmare
People seem to focus more on anti-cheat than attempting to do prediction/replay with physics now it seems
A problem as old as network gaming in general so I'm told
cloud cobalt
Yeah I saw Blue talking about how he went with client auth, unfortunately that might not work well with dynamic collisions
safe shoal
To be honest I've found it perfectly playable up to 500ms RTT, which I figure is enough (I'd be kicking players at around 200 RTT anyway)
But the server auth doesn't really solve the collision problem anyway
cloud cobalt
Don't you have massive de-syncs between clients when colliding with each other ?
safe shoal
Not that huge at all really so far. All clients receive inputs and simulate those locally as well which helps a bit
plush yew
Hi guys if I have a cube and a simple PNG gimp texture, will the entire texture show for sure on each face?
safe shoal
If you have a rocket-league situation where you know exactly how many dynamic objects are in the scene and the scene is small enough to buffer the entire thing, you can do server-auth
plush yew
The texture is a picture basically
safe shoal
But in my case that may as well be the total opposite
I had a brief look at using PhysX immediate mode to do replay/server sim/prediction in another scene - but you still have to copy data from the main scene into it and all those objects just appear as kinematic, so you don't really get proper physics interaction and you're back at the kinematic approach that CMC takes anyway
It's frustrating to be honest, client-auth really feels like a dirty word. I'm just going to put a lot of focus on anti-cheat going forward
buoyant mulch
?
somber quail
So Unity bought Graphine... I really hope this spurs more development on Virtual Texturing for UE4. A lot of peeps in the 3D Scanning space are probably going to be hopping over to Unity now :/
cloud cobalt
Epic is working on it right now
distant loom
im intimidated by everything in UE4 like animating, blueprints, everything
i guess not just UE4 but programming in general
i know a bit of python which isnt bad and i tried unity and unity seems alot more user friendly
cloud cobalt
So what's your question ?
vapid sand
hello, I'm just starting to dig a bit in the editor scripting utilities and creating UMG for the editor. That sound promising! Do you know if there is already everything exposed to create a new AnimMontage (either from scratch, or by duplicating one), and create sections inside, add notifies, etc?
honest vale
I wish the CSS on the docs didn't suck ass
safe shoal
what is that resolution :D?
safe shoal
was res monitor do you have?!
safe shoal
Oh I though the half-res was that
honest vale
and the navigation side bar never opens to the correct position when I open the page via link
bitter iris
Quick question guys, should I upgrade to 4.21 over 4.20?
cloud cobalt
Depends a lot on what you're doing, how close you're to release, how long your project is going to be
wary wave
and whether there's actually anything in 4.21 to upgrade for...
bitter iris
I heard there was subsystem problems in 4.20
cloud cobalt
There are problems with every version.
wary wave
but are you having problems in 4.20?
upgrading to avoid hypothetical problems you've heard about, only to get hit by real problems in the new version, well....
bitter iris
Not at the moment, just wondering if theres benefits of 4.21
cloud cobalt
Every UE version has more or less minor issues - the trick is to find a version that doesn't break anything you need
fierce tulip
hence me being on 4.16 for cascade :p
wary wave
If you don't know of any benefits to upgrading, don't upgrade?
bitter iris
Fair, ill look into it more and see if it will benefit me
sudden agate
There are still people using 4.0 or 4.1 smh
bitter iris
I wasn't saying anything bad about versions, just wondered what benefits there are, I just looked at the release notes and i could utilize most things on the version. So I'm gunna upgrade and stick with this version
still orbit
jesus fucking christ. How do you disable steam VR launching along with the engine? If I disable it in plugins it just resets next time I open the engine
fierce tulip
perhaps its still active in the uproject file?
still orbit
im not opening any file, I just close the engine and open the engine when it offers me a project to chose, and steam vr is launching simultaneously
regal mulch
Welcome to SteamVR
fierce tulip
regal mulch
Pretty sure you can't wait for Oculus to come play too
fierce tulip
if frustrated thendo just rip out the files :p
plush yew
is there any tutorial on how to make multiple lobbys with player created waiting rooms where the host (the player created it) changes the level, max players, rules and can kick certain players.
i cant find any
still orbit
its not helpful because I don't understand what it means " SteamVR has a Developer tab with 'Start SteamVR when an application starts'."
I obviously did google mysleft before getting enraged, which lead me to edit->plugins->vr but that doesnt help, as it resets
wary wave
it's in SteamVR
plush yew
im new as dev and dont know anything about dev i just choosed unreal insted of unity
@wary wave tbh that didnt sounded very helpful to me regarding @still orbit
still orbit
but I dont even have steam vr on, the headset is off
plush yew
see
still orbit
and when i open unreal its tells me headset not detected, and im like no shit
plush yew
hey i helped lol
Btw is there any tutorial on how to make multiple lobbys with player created waiting rooms where the host (the player created it) changes the level, max players, rules and can kick certain players.
i cant find any
grim juniper
If you open the project instead of the engine and have the plugin turned off for the project it won't launch SteamVR
wary wave
I suspect there's a process sat around somewhere that launches SteamVR automatically when a supported application starts
still orbit
yes, but steam doesnt have the VR mode enabled if headset is off, i couldnt get to settings if I didnt turn VR mode on which is why this situation makes no sense
wary wave
@grim juniper - do you really have to edit the project D: ?
I mean editing the project is easy enough, but it's a bit daft
grim juniper
The SteamVR plugin is on by default
still orbit
in unreal? yes, but if i disable it it just resets every time i close unreal
wary wave
loads of them are, but usually when you disable them, that's the end of it
but I guess that's irrelevant, because it's not the game that's a SteamVR application, it's the editor
and since Steam picks up on that, SteamVR gets launched
grim juniper
It doesn't reset for me
grim juniper
If you open the project directly instead of the engine
wary wave
makes sense for SteamVR to launch if you launch a SteamVR application
it's just in this case you don't actually want to use VR xD
still orbit
yeah it didnt help, I disabled it in developer settings as suggested by the link posted, it still opens
fierce tulip
aaand ban
wary wave
weird :/
fierce tulip
boom
wary wave
"hey guys I want to do a piracy on your stuff!"
fierce tulip
stupid bleepers
still orbit
okay I found a roundabout way to disable it, sorry for whining here I just assumed somebody must have had this issue also, for anybody in the future:
C:\Program Files\Epic Games\"Engine Version"\Engine\Plugins\Runtime\Steam\SteamVR\SteamVR.uplugin
modify the line : "EnabledByDefault" : true,
with : "EnabledByDefault" : false,
@fierce tulip
is there any tutorial on how to make multiple lobbys with player created waiting rooms where the host (the player created it) changes the level, max players, rules and can kick certain players.
i cant find any
fierce tulip
why ask me?
plush yew
idk ur orange u seem important
fierce tulip
you might be able to get some advice in the programming channels, but dont expect people to guide you trough it.
they might know documentation you could look at though.
sonic tinsel
I asked yesterday but no one at the time was able to help me
My playerstarts aren't working and I can't figure out why
whenever I click play it spawns me in a random place in the sky
Playing from the editor's camera location doesn't work
grim ore
sounds like a collision issue
can you drag your character in the scene to where you want it to be, set it to auto possess player 0, and hit play and see what happens?
sonic tinsel
Sure one second I'll try it
swift elm
so camera shake falloff is where i can control the intensity based on distance to the epicenter, right?
sonic tinsel
didn't work @grim ore
grim ore
so same issue, it goes somewhere else? if so make a new level, the first one with just the floor is fine and do the same. drop the character in, auto posses 0, and hit play. see if that works
sonic tinsel
you mean the playerstart right? Not the character itself?
grim ore
no I mean the character, the one you expect to spawn in.
and setting it to auto possess player 0 makes sure when you hit play your player will control it
we do this to eliminate the spawning as the issue and to make sure the character is fine itself
grim ore
it will be in the panel yep
sonic tinsel
ok I set it to auto possess and it spawned a massive camera in the air
grim ore
are you using a template character or something you made?
sonic tinsel
I made it
grim ore
even just making a new level and hitting play should atleast spawn in the default character
sonic tinsel
there's nothing in this level, just some basic geometry and skybox stuff
grim ore
does your custom character work at all?
sonic tinsel
It did before this started happening
I didn't do anything afaik to make it not work
and I can tell camera movement still works when it spawns me in the air
grim ore
usually if something moves out of it spot at start its a collision issue, like one of your meshes or even the sky box has collision on now
which is why we are testing to see if that character works as expected in a new blank scene
the sky sphere is a big one for getting collision on accident and it will push the player out of the world or prevent them from moving at all
sonic tinsel
ok one second I'll make a new level to try it
I'm just going to put in a platform to stand on and a sky light
nope does the same hting
spawns a massive camera
but apparently it's the camera from the character?
swift elm
so... anyone available to tell me the best way to lessen the intensity of the camera shake as the player gets further from the source?
i tried looking it up but it seems like an undocumented module
somber quail
World origin rebasing. You can do this if your world is set up with world composition. Otherwise you'll need a custom solution. The shake is caused by rounding errors when a float reaches is maximum number of values. It's the same thing that made meshes in PS1 games go wobbly
You can even see it in some recent games. There's a close up of a characters hand in Halo 5 during a cutscene and you can see the vertices wobbling
queen bolt
@swift elm have you tried the play world camera shake? It has radius settings.
swift elm
That is the only camera shake option i have available, I'm using UE4.19.2
somber quail
I guess I misinterpreted the issue, sorry.
queen bolt
And the radius options aren't working for you?
wary wave
you want to manually change the strength of the shake based on your own attenuation curves, I guess
swift elm
One moment, i'll show you what i have going on and maybe you'll be able to understand
So the player is in a space ship, and as he/she flies closer to the wormhole/black hole i want the camera shake to intensify, i've used sqrt in my distance calculations to close the gap a bit, and now i'm trying to use that as a calculation to use for the radius strength
however.
When i take the sqrt and divide by 2 for the inner radius and 4 for the outer, it doesn't quite work that well
I must have the outer radius 2x larger than the inner radius because if the user turns the ship around or rotates the camera the shake goes away
plush yew
is there way to get like 1000 people to one huge world
swift elm
Yes, as long as the server can handle it
As far as i know UE4 has no network limitations
swift elm
Max recomended maybe
swift elm
Well, like i said, UE4 doesn't have any real network limitations, it's all up to the developer
abstract relic
Bad foundation makes a crumpling building as they say. Obviously you need a team of network architect if you’re going to make any grand.
swift elm
Anyone with the camera shake?
fierce tulip
you probably have to set the camshake intensity by getting the distance from target and use some math to get it within a decent value range
queen bolt
In that pic you're not doing anything with it though, right?
swift elm
look at where it branches off to sqrt
i'm printing the text but
as soon as i try to utilize it in the radius calculations... it just doesn't work as intended
hmm
queen bolt
Why do you have these overlap checks? The radius of the camera shake node already "does that"
swift elm
i have a thought, one moment
that's not a serious question, right?
you've looked at the image?
queen bolt
Right
smoky latch
hi guys! i've encountered a problem - i need to stream levels based on my character location, but currently engine streams levels based on camera location, which leads to constant switching of levels when you rotate camera around your character (3rd person camera setup). How can i change this behavior, and stream levels based on char loc. Which engine sources are related to lvl streaming?
swift elm
damn
idea didn't work
so if i multiply the sqrt by 2 for inner and 4 for outer it has the intended effect, only in reverse, so i try to divide it
and it doesn't do any shaking at all
plush yew
whenever I try to check "Show all classes" for c++ ue4 crashes
just me or this is a known issue?
grim ore
Holy hells bells. Can't watch in line outside expo now so feel free to commentary on
fierce tulip
so much crappy gamurz in the twitch chat
lofty wave
can i ask something here?
fierce tulip
@lofty wave every channel can be considered support
just ask in the channel most relevant to your question
trail mural
that quixel scene was amazing
plush yew
Hello everybody! I have recently purchased a toolkit for voxels but I am having trouble figuring out on how to convert it over to multiplayer. If anybody could help out that would be great! It uses both c++ and blueprints whenever I set the blueprint actor to replicate it is quite buggy on the 2nd client and doesn't replicate.
pallid compass
Is there not support for the toolkit you bought?
plush yew
No the creator is inactive
chrome lintel
What could trigger a overlap event from a distance? (im casting to character class and printing the string of the object prove its my actual character which is fine)
narrow crypt
Hi do you know of any good server hosting thats good for solo indie gamesparks was good but doesnt seem like they are developing anything after amazon acquired them playfab is just too dry on guides.
whole quarry
@chrome lintel how do you cast?
azure shore
is it me or is multiplayer just generally super complicated
theres no real way of just simply DOING it is there
unless theres like a free marketplace thing or something but that probably wouldnt work to apply to your own games
would be good as a start point though
as much as I love singleplayer games and mine will have a lot of solo levels, Id really like multiplayer too, it keeps people playing at least a bit and it can be great fun
plush yew
yeah i'm having trouble implementing multiplayer in my own game right now. DX
chrome lintel
@whole quarry Cast to Character class from "other actor" pin
A simple actor with a box inside used for the overlap detection
the job is done correctly but several meters before my character actually overlap the trigger actor... coding is in the actor (not using a trigger volume)
slim crystal
is there a place I can ask for help with UE4?
chrome lintel
right here
fierce tulip
future of physics and destruction stream starts now
grave nebula
@plush yew UT levels
plush yew
Outpost-23, Underland, Chill, Titan Pass, etc.
slim crystal
I closed UE4. Opened UE4, opened my project i was working in, opened the level I was working on and everything in the scene is completely black. Except the skybox that appears to be working normally but all the meshes and landscape are black/hyper shiny.
plush yew
try moving it
slim crystal
moving what exactly?
plush yew
Try downloading the multiplayer project from ue4 and look at it to see how it works
azure shore
oh thats a thing? thats good, I was hoping to have some kind of template to look at
frail iron
Did they announce any thing for mobile? Just wondering since I am looking at creating simple mobile games but have been told UE4 is not the right pick for that.
plush yew
UE4 is quite good for mobile
I am developing a cross platform game and rn I am focusing on mobile and personally love using it
I would reccomend at least trying UE4 if its not for you Unity is also quite good
frail iron
What about integrating FB adn game analytic sdks?
plush yew
I haven't done it personally or looked into it too much for FB. But for analytics Unreal just released their cross platorm sdk which will suport analystics
frail iron
Oh cool. Yeah I just know a lot of mobile publishers need their sdks implemented into your game while testing them.
plush yew
@slim crystal not sure how advanced you are 90% sure you are better than me but I thought possibly you are new, if so there is sometimes a problem where you need to move the objects in your scene before you can see them.
Yeah, again haven't looked into it a ton since I am self publishing but I am sure they have SDKS for unreal since it is one of the most popular engines
@frail iron DM me if you have anymore questions
frail iron
Will do! 😄
slim crystal
@plush yew sorry to say didn't work for anything. All thats left in the scene is one asset, the player controler and the skybox all my other assets have turned into this glossy black including the terrain.
sonic tinsel
how do I make my character inherit an anim blueprint?
azure shore
@sonic tinsel select the mesh, go to animation, select use anim bp (should be default) then choose the one you want
slim crystal
Yes I am new to UE4. But as you can see in this and earlier screenshots building was one of the first things I tried and the results are the same.
azure shore
weird
you didnt fuck any settings in the lights stuff did you?
that effect actually looks kinda cool
plush yew
dunno why this made me chuckle
for some reason i read it in a really thick russian accent
azure shore
xd
azure shore
eez spayshul ehnjin mateereeal
lofty wave
and bc im a big noob i dont know what to do
azure shore
wait, you can't launch either? as in when you click run as standalone process
lofty wave
yes
i can only play it in the viewport
wait no
i can create a standalone procces
But that wont work
@azure shore
azure shore
wait so whats the actual error
does it tell you or does it just not do anything
I assume youve waited a while
lofty wave
it tells me that something is not right and i should look in the newly created log for more information
and i cant do anything with the log since im a noob
summer turret
when i preview a project in unreal engine it runs so slow because theres foliage and stuff, but the foliage and objects are nowhere close to other real games, how do those games run so smoothly with thousands and thousands of trees and foliage everywheree like ghost recon wildlands etc?
lofty wave
they reused the same asset all the time
used many simple effects to make it look better
and have a good pc
swift elm
So when the camera is facing away from the Camera Shake component it's more intense than when it's facing toward it?
how do i fix this?
plush yew
How can I run an event within the "Level Blueprint" without using the "Event Tick" and check if "Is Game Paused" ?
It didn't work when I used the keyboard button event (in my case the Esc button)
pallid compass
You cant, because nothing can access the Level blueprint.
sonic tinsel
@azure shore I tried that, it still doesn't inherit
azure shore
oh really? you sure you're setting all the variables right?
sonic tinsel
yeah
sonic tinsel
wait hold on no lmao sorry
azure shore
oh ok lol
sonic tinsel
I'm pretty new to this
azure shore
oh, you have to use get anim instance on the object
and then the target for get anim instance is your mesh
azure shore
connect mesh to target
mental oyster
Does anyone know how I can display text on a specific face within a model?
Working on a shotgun in Blender for an arena shooter, and it has an ammo display on the receiver
lament coyote
create a widget and add it to the gun blueprint
pallid compass
Get controlled pawn ->
azure shore
wut
sonic tinsel
the side of the target pin?
sonic tinsel
in my character blueprint?
azure shore
yeah in the character bp
abstract relic
Yep. Try Get Pawn Owner node
azure shore
connect mesh from there to target
sonic tinsel
Should getcontrolledpawn be the target?
sonic tinsel
yea, went into an old project to look at what I did when it worked and that fixed it
Trygetpawnowner fixed it
thx rei, thx for trying to help DJ
pallid compass
np
lilac marsh
Not sure where this belongs
but I'm having issues with unreal engine's cooking system
everything works fine and I can play in editor
but I can't package or cook cause of an error
what I've tried so far:
- Upgrading the engine from 4.18 to 4.20
- Disabling all plugins
- Going through all blueprints for errors
- Removing placeholder content that's non-essential
- Re-saving every map
Post actual log errors and warnings.
grim ore
that is an impressive crash there
lilac marsh
Interestingly enough
I'm not using a landscape anywhere within my project
wait...
I think I found the problem...
one of the levels is probably corrupted....
pallid compass
Cant really tell since i cant see call stacks.
plush yew
anyone else getting an error when trying to view the valve knuckle's forums?
lilac marsh
I would say "no" but I got limited access to steam works to begin with
so it might be a different section
did you try clearing your local cache?
rocky elbow
Are there any open source projects I can learn from?
lilac marsh
Depends on what you want to learn really...
rocky elbow
Advanced AI stuff
lilac marsh
that said, looking at open source projects
rarely teaches the topic at hand
actually working with the stuff does...
I'd personally say create a new ue4 project, and look into the documentation with a specific thing in mind you want to pull off
rocky elbow
yeah I looked into blackboard and ai stuff
lilac marsh
but that's me, others might know some better examples
frosty bloom
No.
grim ore
you can have someone copy it for you and give it to you in a letter perhaps?
wtf... epic released preview 6 of 4.22 today... but... i saw them all at GDC.... I wonder what poor person they left behind to do all the work at the office lol
urban meadow
epic epic epic....announcing features for 4.23 when 4.22 isn't even out yet...smh, for the love of god...please stabilize a version!!!!
grim ore
what is stabilizing a version?
queen junco
Anyone know why my vehicle 🚗 is stiff when turning? The tires rotate and animate, but the car seems to move in a diagonal motion slowly, as apposed to actually rotating and turning like a real car.
plush yew
we all gonna use dxr lol
queen junco
I used the default car in the starter pack and then switched my model out in the mesh properties. but strange enough, its turning ever so slightly.. not enough to count tho
dire torrent
Change the velocity or rotation angle?
dire torrent
Add it in
plush yew
can someone hop on call and help me out? this will probably take less than 5 minutes
just need help with level streaming
polar sonnet
Hey Guys, i'm having an issue getting Unreal to recognize that I have Visual Studio installed, every time i try to make a new C++ file, it say that it is not installed. I have all the unreal stuff installed to Visual Studio
dire torrent
Reinstall and make sure to incorporate VS as checked not unchecked. Actually it might be the launcher that needs to be reinstalled. Not sure.
sonic ruin
Hey need help how do I create an actor blueprint
bleak widget
@sonic ruin on blueprint or C++ ?
sonic ruin
Blueprint
queen junco
The steering is all messed up.. and I have been working at this for hours. I’m exhausted. Anyone know why he won’t turn around?
bleak widget
@sonic ruin
sonic ruin
Ok
bleak widget
sonic ruin
Ok
bleak widget
or other class which you need
dire torrent
@queen junco uhm show your bps
bleak widget
sonic ruin
Idk I am trying to make a third person shooter but I put the camera so it looks First person and trying to add a gun to the character
People were saying you need to create a actor Blueprint
bleak widget
@sonic ruin there are 2 ways. Create new ThirdPersonCharacter and setup all properties or create ThirdPerson Character template and change skeletal mesh 😃
sonic ruin
How would you do the 2nd one
bleak widget
any Character base class have inherit components such as Mesh, capsule component e.t.c. All of them are inherited from base class to any Character class you created
and you can add any other components manually
sonic ruin
?? Please explain or step me how to just add a gun to a third person template character
bleak widget
when you creating new project choose TherdPersonCharacter
dire torrent
Can I mask a transparent texture with black instead of white for materials with meshes?
sonic ruin
Ok I did
bleak widget
@sonic ruin gun attached to bone inside sekeletal mesh as i know. But i did not do it
queen junco
@dire torrent
sonic ruin
What do you mean gun attached to bone?
dire torrent
@queen junco where's the rotation?
queen junco
@dire torrent it should be the Steering input.
bleak widget
@sonic ruin to change camera position see the Spring arm inside Character. It's tripod for camera and camera folow for character on a distance
sonic ruin
No no no no camera position I’m all good with
I am trying to add a gun to a third person character
dire torrent
@queen junco ?
bleak widget
i sure youtube have many videos about it
sonic ruin
👌
bleak widget
it very useful
sonic ruin
whatever I don't need to worry about that right now then
how do I resize this buidling
bleak widget
scale
sonic ruin
lol
coarse wigeon
https://twitter.com/The_StoneFox/status/1108410810936840192 Seems like the Stone fox who makes the VRTK wants to port VRTK to UE4
Twitter
Give it a retweet if you can
sonic ruin
Hey so if I wanted to make this helicopter slanted so it's side isn't floating how would I do that
wet vessel
Hey is there a way to get Unreal without the epic launcher or anything having to do with epic? I'd rather not install a botnet on my comp
frail iron
wet vessel
Thanks
distant loom
what is botnet
grim ore
It's what people call stuff when they listen to other people
distant loom
huh
grim ore
The person believes the launcher connects to the bad people and steals his info and gives it to other people without his permission and does other naughty things to his PC
bleak widget
ue coders never sleep. Just low FPS 😄
wet vessel
A botnet isn't just what I call stuff when I listen to other people. I call a botnet a botnet because it's a botnet.
But don't take my word for it, the evidence is right there
manic pawn
all of that is complete bullshit lmao
wet vessel
Elaborate
grim ore
it's not worth arguing with someone like this who doesn't do their own research and just regurgitates other people stuff @manic pawn just mute them and move on
wet vessel
I guess the recent harvesting of private information from Steam is bullshit too, right?
Despite the hefty coverage that's gotten
bleak widget
untill private info hided from public it's not danger
bleak widget
policy of company - minimize third side code
wet vessel
The same conglomerate known for helping the Chinese government spy on its own citizens.
wet vessel
It's honestly pretty genius to use the Epic launcher as a way to collect data on people abroad
wet vessel
just because A does something that makes it okay for B to do something
Windows doesn't really have anything to do with this, but Microsoft isn't run by saints either.
bleak widget
a lot of software behave same as epic store. It's technical needs
just you dont see it
wet vessel
It's not "technical needs". Wanting to not use any third party code is the worst excuse for harvesting private user data from Steam
You shouldn't settle for something just because it seems "not that bad" or because "everyone's doing it".
Speaking out against these kinds of things is the only way you can hope for it to change and get better.
I want a competitor to Steam, I do, but not this.
bleak widget
it's not so important for me personally because my really private data hided too deeply. Steam and other software clean from really important data. Yes i'm paranoidal 😄
modern sinew
Hey if I had a Kickstarter for my game, would it be better to have one before I start major work on it, to fund the Alpha, or after I have an Alpha out?
dim arch
you can build ue4 from source, verify it and develop a game without the launcher
and use your own OSS if you are so anal about it collecting meaningless metrics
wet vessel
@modern sinew I'd say just when you have something impressive for the kickstarter page
So after an alpha version yeah
modern sinew
I - just, I have a good idea for a game, but it's a really challenging idea, as all my other ideas (RN just an Airport Tycoon and a Ski Resort Tycoon) are almost as hard, and have smaller potential markets :/
People here have been supportive, but people elsewhere have really not, and even tho none of them are programmers it's still demoralizing to have a whole chatroom call you "delusional"
modern sinew
yea but they have some complex features too
mainly snow for the latter
I want realistic skiing 😄
wet vessel
I'd make the airport tycoon. I can imagine that'd ironically be simpler than the ski resort
modern sinew
My current idea is basically "Multiplayer KSP, but First Person"
and more focused on fun than realism
Airplane-like spaceflight, sorta like 80's sci-fi aesthetic, etc
Also an advantage that one has is you don't need to figure out how AI work
on the other hand you have to figure out multiplayer.
ughh
wet vessel
As long as you have an alpha with something to show people, it'll be fine
modern sinew
How long do you think an Airport tycoon would take? compared to Multiplaye/ShipBuilding/etc?
and would anyone play it?
modern sinew
Because both of my Tycoon ideas, the only ones I've found have been garbage. The Ski Resort Tycoon gets a pass for being from like 2001, although I've played better games from before then, but the Airport tycoon was even worse, and it was like 2012
modern sinew
On the plus side, I'm sure for the Airport game there's a decent amount of free models online I can take. I'd have to figure out Planet-Coaster style building creation tho, and there's no tutorials for it that I can find
bleak widget
i creating mmo rpg 😄
almost ready the identity server
connection cryptography by tokens
wet vessel
@modern sinew As long as peeps know about your game, I'm sure you'll have an audience for it
A sizeable one at that
The ski resort is a little more niche, but if your airport game does well, then you'll have peeps already there waiting for your next game
modern sinew
Do you think people would pay around the Planet Coaster price range for it? ($15-20$)?
if it's good?
wet vessel
Yeah for sure
modern sinew
Also, does anyone know how to do that sorta aesthetic that Cities Skylines does where everything looks like a little model? I really like that
But thanks, @wet vessel , I'll look into trying it at least.
Does anyone know where to find a tutorial for Planet Coaster-style building tho?
modern sinew
Hey what does an "editorial license" on an asset mean?
distant loom
not sure
@modern sinew would you be able to take a second and resolve my issue please?
modern sinew
¯_(ツ)_/¯
distant loom
im not very good with UE
modern sinew
I haven't even technically used it yet past like half a tutorial
modern sinew
I'm staying away from that mess
distant loom
mkk
modern sinew
I just don't like BluePrint in general; Gamemaker 2 tried to force me to use the same concept and that's why I despise it
distant loom
huh
so u dont like visual scripting
because i thought it was less powerful but apparently not
modern sinew
Nah, coding is far easier and more intuitive
modern sinew
yea
distant loom
debatable
whats harder to learn, scratch or python
ok not the greatest example but yeh
modern sinew
Code just makes sense to me. The spaghettified nonsense that is BP doesn't
and neither; Java
modern sinew
Taking C++ in class tho
modern sinew
It's the main reason I'm using UE4 over Unity
distant loom
i cant get python or anything on the pc
so im doing scratch at schoo tbhj
ltbh
help
plush yew
get it on your smartphone
distant loom
wut
also offline ive been looking for help 4 about half an hour can u hook me up with a solution to my shitty blueprint @plush yew
plush yew
python
distant loom
^
plush yew
no, i just woke up
plush yew
im not gonna look at it anyway
distant loom
k
plush yew
unless you bring me pizza
distant loom
ignore the top script
im trying to take damage ONLY inside of a box collision which i have aboolean for
bleak widget
pizza😍
distant loom
help
plush yew
wtf? you couldn't make smaller screenshot?
plush yew
WinKey + Shift + S
plush yew
and if you make more WinKey + V to pick which one is active
distant loom
doesnt work
anyone got a solution to y the 2nd branch is not DEactivating
2nd branch always on bruh
dim plover
Maybe it's the delay. I have no idea what that does in that context.
distant loom
well the delay is for the uh
this is the healing armor script
so i need to heal an amount every 3 secs
dim plover
Use a timer instead.
distant loom
where shall i place it?
dim plover
When you want to start healing, I guess.
dim plover
It's a couple of stuff, I think. MathewW probably has a couple videos on them.
dim plover
Oh, your second branch never gets any value, I don't think.
You need to connect the Cast node somewhere before the other branch to use the return from it.
That's a bit unfortunate that BPs wouldn't give you some sort of warning.
plush yew
what is best way to make planet where you can land and walk. You should be able to go down too (mining)
(surface)?
copper flicker
'elp..
if I want to move an object from folder A to Folder B...
say.. it's called George
and I have a George in both folders
so I want to overwrite George from B with George from A
Unreal doesn't let me
can I force Unreal to do it?
plush yew
@distant loom next time try https://blueprintue.com/
azure shore
I guess you've just been doing this the other way, by deleting the one in the next folder then moving it
doesn't seem to be a huge problem
copper flicker
I can't do that because it will break references
I need to replace sprites that reference into flipbooks
without having to recreate those flipbooks
I can do it from outside Unreal...
if Unrela is closed
but maybe that's risky
meanwhile.. I discovered REDIRECTORS
O o
I was wondering why I have invisible objects that still keep the old naming
so...............................
does anyone know how to cleanly replace assets?
not 1 by 1.. but an entire folder at a time
plush yew
what is best way to make planet where you can land and walk. You should be able to go down too (mining)
copper flicker
Slyack... that's a question that could ahve 1 trillion answers
it's too vague
it's like asking: guys, how do I make a game?
and I'd have to ask: what KIND of game
do you want to make a 2D or 3D planet?.. the whole planet?.. how large?.. what's your art style?.. so on
😄
Minecraft, Starbound, Astroneer. 3 totally different approaches to voxels. and mining.
@plush yew but if you're a beginner.. I'd stay away from voxels and procedural worlds.
cloud cobalt
It has to be somewhat procedural if you want mining
Unless there is only one defined path for mining
plush yew
why i cannot build it how i want
cloud cobalt
You need to figure out what your game looks like and how it works
Is it like Astroneer ?
plush yew
its realistic multiplayer survival. all starts for stick and then you can model your bricks and even be first on space someday
cloud cobalt
Okay so that's already enough for a 50-people team over 2 years but okay
Do you also want mining ? Does it work like Minecraft or Astroneer ?
plush yew
i have time. In school
My first game took more than year
nothing for me
time runs
mining is realistic too. You cannot mine with your hand so you need get stone or tool with stone to break stone. You understand
and there is no ready bricks. Players needs to make all shapes and with tools you can get better shapes and different
cloud cobalt
Okay but how does mining works ? Do you physically create holes in the ground with surface deformation ?
Do you go inside mines ?
cloud cobalt
Does it work like mining in Astroneer ? Go watch a video of it if you haven't played it
plush yew
i know that game but not like that. Its so fast and easy on that game
but yes you can go deeper into core
cloud cobalt
I'm not talking about difficulty but about the design
Does the player affect the physical surface by creating holes and caves ?
Like in Astroneer ?
cloud cobalt
So you need player-editable voxel terrain with multiplayer support, to start with
plush yew
yees
plush yew
why i cannot make my own
copper flicker
Slyack... start with simpler things.
What you're trying to do is very far from simple
anything REALISTIC is far from simple anyway
you are asking very basic questions about something complex
cloud cobalt
@plush yew Your project is already many years of work, like literally a whole fucking lot years, so you might not want to also spend 10 more years doing the voxel support in MP
plush yew
this is not my first game. And from baby age i always hated simple projects. I need hard things and projects to learn much
copper flicker
even if you were a very small company with experienced devs, I'd still not advise making what you're trying to make
try something 1 person can do well
plush yew
Huge Projects, my thing, always
copper flicker
like.. try making something FUN
everyone wants to ake huge things
but even making something small takes a LOT MORE than you'll expect
plush yew
I has always be succesful with my projects and always will
cloud cobalt
There is no point debating this
copper flicker
haha
copper flicker
you're funny Sly. and I understand u, I like huge projects too
cloud cobalt
🤷
plush yew
but yeah, thanks for motivations. I mean rly, just because people always doesn't believe me motivates me, because i can show that i can do it.
cloud cobalt
Good luck
plush yew
Thanks and bye
copper flicker
aaaaaaaaaand... it will take you forever
and it will not be REALISTIC, as you hope
you can maybe try something Astroneer like.. low poly
but you have to start with the basics anywya
before you move on to procedural generation
I will never understand why small devs want to make REALISTIC games anyway...
realistic is boring
it's the least creative way
and the most expensive
cloud cobalt
@copper flicker There's no point trying to talk beginners out of crazy projects.
copper flicker
hehe I know
cloud cobalt
They're not equipped to understand that they can't do it
copper flicker
but the guy is funny
cloud cobalt
From Slyack's perspective you simply don't believe in him
So he's antagonizing you
He'll be back in a week with "how to do 3D from voxels in UE4" and we'll collectively sigh
copper flicker
hahaha.. awesome!
you're 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 % there
copper flicker
you only have... 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% more to go
I think it's good to be enthusiastic about grand projects
plush yew
do you thing that someone can seriously stop my things. I dont care what others thing. When i start i do it. Nothing else to say or ask here because cmon community is shit here if this is help that i got.
copper flicker
cool down Sly
we're just trying to help u
well, to help u understand that it's best to go from A to B... maybe you can skip B and to A to C.. or A to D...... that's fine
but you're dreaming of skipping A to X.... or Z.....
😄
and that's not realistic
if we are to talk.. realistically
about realism
😄
cloud cobalt
@fresh knot We also don't care what you can do
You've asked advice, you've been given some
Do what you want
I've directed you to the best tool you can use to start doing your mining system today, so don't talk this community down because you don't like the advice people give you.
copper flicker
ok, honestly, if you know the basics of Unreal, you can easily create destructible objects..
I would do something like that, in a simple way
not realism, but more like Minecraft, simplified
even better, 2D
😄
cuz everything is simpler in 2D, and you can focus on learning design, and learning Unreal
which is way more useful for a beginner
anyway, my 2 centssssssssssss
copper flicker
haha
I don't know why, but I like to get involved in insane stuff
when someone says stuff like.. I'm building a rocket and I'm moving to Mars next year.
I'm like.. yeah, we got a project here!
😄
meanwhile... references.
if you copy paste an A referencing B
you get a C and D objects
D is still referencing B
instead of C
and the reference can only be changed manually?... inside D?
sorry, by D I mean C 😄
C is referencing B, instead of D
haha
I want to duplicate an entire network of objects basically
without recreating references manually, one by one
keen frigate
It's way too early to wrap my head around what you just said... need coffee... 😂 😂 😂
copper flicker
ok, simpler. if George has a Red Hat.
😄
you duplicate George, you get Jerry
Jerry still has a Red Hat
keep duplicating 1000 times, you get 1000 people with red hats
I want 1000 people with 1000 different hats
I was hoping that by duplicating George + Hat........
I get a new connection, George1 referencing Hat1
it doesn't happen tho
: <
I wish I could build Unreal Assets... procedurally O o
so I can assign references based on a script or BP
not manually one by one
ok. simpler! duplicating doesn't update referencing....?
😄
is it possible to do it?
astral marsh
hey guys im having sort of a pickup problem can anyone help me through screenshare?
please?
its urgent
astral marsh
So i've made a inventory+Pickup system inside my player bp so i've made a attack system and setup a branch for left mouse button called "if picked" so in pickup system after pickup i did set if picked to true for my axe so i did a key system in that it performs attack to which i dont want to if i pickup key i dont want it to perform attacking animation
see i can properly explain it through a screenshare
in text im betting you wont understand
honest vale
well you used zero amount of punctuation there so yea it's pretty hard 😄
cloud cobalt
People don't have time for screen sharing
astral marsh
i serious need help tho
wary wave
and most of us are pretty busy
cloud cobalt
You haven't explained your problem
astral marsh
So i have a pickup system + inventory in the end i set a bool called if picked what it does is if i'm performing the attack animation LeftMouseButton - Branch(Condition-Ifpicked) True - Set Attack(true) so i've made child bp of the bp in which pickup small part is present in order to work with pickup but i made a key bp this time so if i hold a key it performs a attack animation with key too which i dont want
regal mulch
The Item itself should perform the action
So if you press LeftMouseButton, you need to call "PerformAction" (Function in the Item Base BP that you need to create) on the Item you have picked up.
And PerformAction is then implemented in the different items
Key does XY, Weapons do Attack
sonic ruin
Hey so if I wanted to make this helicopter slanted so it's side isn't floating how would I do that
wary wave
you're going to need to give people a lot more to work with than that 😐
sudden agate
By implementing Helicopter Physics
astral marsh
@regal mulch The other half of pickup system and inventory system is inside the player BP
so i would have to call the "PerformAction" inside it?
regal mulch
Well if you have a lot of different things that can happen per item usage
Then that code needs to go into the items
Not the character
astral marsh
Well In the Item Base BP I made a custom event called pickup then simulate physics(false) and set collision enabled then in first person character i cast it to The Item base bp and then perform pickup
then the pickup and inventory comes
@regal mulch
sonic ruin
@sudden agate how would I implement helicopter physics
sudden agate
fierce tulip
sounds about right
dim merlin
Hey guys, is there any way to make a static mesh from proc mesh at runtime?
sonic ruin
Alr thx man I am goin to head on my way to college I will be back around 3:30
dim merlin
or any other way to optimize?
gleaming lotus
I'm in a slight predicament - I want to see the landscape options that were selected on the landscape in a level so I can get the exact resolution of it. Any idea how to inspect it?
waxen heart
gleaming lotus
Oh no way, never knew there was that in the manage section, thanks!
soft crescent
whats live coding?
cloud cobalt
Better implementation of hot reload
soft crescent
oh nice
with ue4's multi user collab, can two people work on the same scene or blueprint?
teal citrus
hi guys I have a general unreal question
does anyone know if the old unreal "Multi-kill" "mega-kill" sound effects are public domain?
fierce tulip
@teal citrus afaik they are not, but many people recreated them. might want to try and find someone selling em
teal citrus
thanks Luos
fierce tulip
@plush yew something must have gone wrong :/
fierce tulip
sometimes yea
especially when redirectors redirect to redirectors
gamedev, always on the brink of giving up XD
yea moving maps is always a bit odd
4.22 or 4.23 will have a new redirector setup, allowing them to be fixed up automatically
prolly
maiden sundial
Is there a way to snap an actor to the left side just like the way for the ground when you press end ?
fierce tulip
afaik no
maiden sundial
Damn
keen frigate
Talking about snapping actors... right clicking and selecting "attach to" and then a socket... the actor wont snap/teleport to saids socket. Was trying to use that on a modular thingy I'm creating and although the Actor A attached to Actor B's socket in the overview... it didn't snap in the level. Has anything changed or am i missing something?
sullen wraith
game is crashing whenever i try to play it in viewport, happened out of nowhere, no error messahe when it crashes
anyone know how i can try to figure it out?
all i got is
Unhandled exception
UE4Editor_Renderer
UE4Editor_Renderer
UE4Editor_Renderer
UE4Editor_Core
UE4Editor_Core
UE4Editor_Core
UE4Editor_Core
UE4Editor_Core
kernel32
ntdll
manic pawn
install debug symbols
leaden dust
is there any guide for setting up vegetation materials?
my materials look very bad
gloomy sandal
Anyone who knows if there will be a discord sdk for blueprints?
blazing topaz
can any one help with possessing flying pawn ? i've try 2 different ways to do it , but nothing work properly , all works to get in it , but not work to exit from flying pawn
pallid compass
Is that multiplayer?
blazing topaz
no it is single
bitter iris
Is there any ways around this message trying to upgrade version
bitter iris
ERROR: Unable to compile source files.
(see ../Programs/UnrealBuildTool/Log.txt for full exception trace)
LogInit: Warning: Still incompatible or missing module: SurvivorX
bitter iris
vale silo
still no TimS keynote available from State of Unreal at GDC 2019 ?
(I missed live stream, if there was one)
muted apex
is there any way to blend root motion animations yet
that feature has been requested since 4 years
no sign
pallid compass
error CS0234: The type or namespace name 'Log' does not exist in the namespace 'UnrealBuildTool' (are you missing an assembly reference?) d:\SX\Project\PF\SX\SurvivorX3 4.21\Plugins\Runtime\Substance\Source\SubstanceCore\SubstanceCore.Build.cs(143,34) : error CS0103: The name 'LogEventType' does not exist in the current context
says right there Jorden
bitter iris
so its substance ? I'll disable that then but i doubt it will let me compile still
so i will rebuild from vs
minor drum
Has anyone got tips on how to solve the "stuck at 72% loading" issue ? I tried everything that was on the forums, still not loading past 72%, even commented out all of my new code, and I tried while deleting intermediate and binaries every time
copper fable
is there a mask to get the edges for a material or do i need to bake a mask?
honest vale
@minor drum are you sure it's stuck?
plush yew
Is this a good configuration for a starter basic game developer? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jz9YFt
Im making simple games
sonic tinsel
Yeah Aurix that should be fine
shadow juniper
excuse my ignorance, but what does "entitlement ban" mean? was looking at launcher updates and noticed that as the newest thing
tawdry hedge
Hey, does anyone know if there's a way to set the default FOV to 90 in UE4?
dry moon
Edit your player blueprint, find the camera component and it should be on that
inland plover
hey guys - having problems with my normals - i keep getting these flickering shadows and odd artefacts. I don't really know what else to do.
tawdry hedge
hmm yeah, it's set to 90 there, yet it's still 110 by default
minor drum
@honest vale pretty sure it's stuck, usually it spends 5 seconds loading everything, whereas I waited for minutes and it still didn't do anything. Also the dots weren't moving and it used 0% cpu
prime tulip
Importing mesh from 3dsmax with unwrap modifier on it doesn't work. In-engine model ahs different unwrap. Also disabled generate lightmap uv's in model settings, still not importing my own unwrap. Why?
cedar moon
I want a moving actor(B) to be part of another actor(A), so that when A moves B's position also updates and thus B's movement is always relative to A.
What am I looking at to make this happen? Just a child actor? Or could I spawn the actor independent and set it's owner or something?
prime tulip
can someone explain to me how the UV channels in Unreal work? When i have channel 1 and 2 in max, what will this become in unreal? Because right now I have 1 and 2 in max (as you can't have channel 0 in max). However, in Unreal it starts from 0, then 1, .... How does this correlate? I'm going nuts 😛 I just want channel 0 and 1 in unreal to be same as 1 and 2 in max. Why is life so difficult 😦
Ok so I (kind of) figured it out but I still don't understand a rats ass about how it works haha. Anyway apparently channel 1 is always reserved for Unreal? Is this possible? Using all channels except for channel 2 in Max seems to work in Unreal it just becomes the channel -1. Dunno why channel 1 can't be used, really weird.
cedar moon
I am new here but I think your questions might be perfect for the Content Creation section #graphics presumably
frail iron
Is it possible to make tools to help designers using only blueprints?
fierce tulip
@prime tulip
UV1 in max = UV0 in ue4
UV2 in max = UV1 in ue4
if you use one of the later ue4 versions you need to enable the import options in editor configurations.
channel 1 is not always reserved in ue4 unless you dont change the import settings and therefore at one point had it generate a lightmap.
@frail iron yes, even more so in 4.21/4.22
prime tulip
@fierce tulip Thanks bro! I made a small mistake. I forgot to press apply settings in the model which is why it kept overwriting the UV 1 with a generated lightmap. 😃
I thought just saving the asset would be enough, but nope silly me
frail iron
@fierce tulip thanks! That is great to hear!
fierce tulip
just explain your problem/situation in #blueprint
cobalt turtle
hey hey
how can i fix this pivot displacement without destroying the PhAT simulation?
i've tried alt + drag and it simply goes terribly wrong afterwards
cobalt turtle
anyone?
zealous cloak
glossy ingot
So anyone figure out a way to get true hdr with working shadows?
silver shell
Hi, I got a simple widget that has an image->overlay->text, this widget will placed multiple times on another widget, from this 'parent' widget I want to modify the content->text in the details. but I don't get that options, anyone knows why?
plush yew
Oh I had this problem earlier go to the text in the top right (though maybe it's different for text) there should be a microscopic checkbox 'is variable' then you can edit from outside, you may need to cast
In your simple widget designer it will be
silver shell
yes, I have checked is a variable....can you explain the casting part
plain forge
Has anyone here used postbuildscripts before in the uproject file?
plush yew
I'm not sure on your setup and exactly what you want but when you get the child widget (via some 'get children node) you can theb cast to the class of your child widget and access the text variable
silver shell
Thanks!, Im gonna try that
distant loom
hey guys so my unreal crashed and my map was saved but my blueprint was brought back about an hour, what do i do?
gray storm
plush yew
Hi people I have created a data table with a single row and column, a single entry which is a large array of integers. How do I access this array?
upper quartz
hi brothers,
i have a problem about C++ component.
i made a c++ component for a MOTHER ACTOR.
and , use the "change parent" mothod to change parent to MOTHER ACTOR on SOMEONE ACTOR.
but SOMEONE ACTOR 's C++ component is not working.
i wanna know how to fix that ><
dawn vessel
Why doesn't UE implement something like this? https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/multi-task
Allows BP's to do Multi-Threading. As BP only does a single Thread. This is amazing. Performance for BP would also shoot through the roof if this was in.
weary basalt
Multithreading can be done in C++, probably the major reason its not in BP is because its not easy.
BP is a designer friendly wrapper around C++ functionality.
Its not supposed to replace C++
dawn vessel
Yeah I know C++ can. But for people who only have the skill level of Blueprint knowledge.
That's a huge thing.
If you know how to use the Multi-Task Plugin though. It can run great.
weary basalt
Well use the plugin then?
The reason they made UE4 open source and gave people power to create plugins is so that you have control over the features you want the engine to support so that Epic arent holding you back.
weary basalt
Multithreading isnt easy, there are so many pitfalls. Its not a BP friendly feature for the level of skill your talking about.
If you want to use Multithreading, learn to use C++.
You will get a much greater understanding in the long run.
weary basalt
Look up further in the log, there will be some Errors somewhere.
Search your log for the word error
lofty wave
k
yep
LogPlayLevel: Error: ERROR: UBT ERROR: Failed to produce item: C:\Users\Ryzen\Documents\Unreal Projects\Das große Spiel\Binaries\Win64\lol.exe
LogPlayLevel: Error: ERROR: UnrealBuildTool failed. See log for more details. (C:\Users\Ryzen\AppData\Roaming\Unreal Engine\AutomationTool\Logs\D+Unreal+engine+UE_4.21\UBT-lol-Win64-Development.txt)
nice
weary basalt
No
Keep going
They are just telling you that it failed to finish the package
Because of an error
That isnt the ACTUAL error
weary basalt
Dude, search your log.
lofty wave
"LogCook: Warning: Already saved this package not sure how this got here!"
wtf
is that?
weary basalt
Ignore warnings
weary basalt
Mate, please just do as i ask.
lofty wave
ok
weary basalt
I asked you to paste ALL of your log, not show me an image
lofty wave
i never used pastebin before
weary basalt
Its easy.