ue4-general

[copper fable]

thank you

[wary wave]

okay, so you are correct in that there's no real information in this

I'm a bit wary of the fact there's a pile of logging with stuff that just says useless things like "Warning: Your message" etc

where does that come from?

is there a third party plugin or something, or is it your own code?

[native cradle]

Hi, has anyone here worked with Face AR?

[copper fable]

that was my message

this part shows when i debug it in VS

[2019.01.17-13.11.04:872][338]LogOutputDevice: Warning:

Script Stack (1 frames):
BP_MonsterBase_C.ReceiveTick

Assertion failed: ContainerPtr [File:D:\Build++UE4\Sync\Engine\Source\Runtime\CoreUObject\Public\UObject/UnrealType.h] [Line: 336]

UE4Editor.exe has triggered a breakpoint.

[cloud cobalt]

You'll probabky need the call stack for that - installing the debug symbols and debugging with Visual

[opal spindle]

Does anyone know the algorithm/function used for the splines used to connect blueprint nodes?

I tried smootherstep but seems to not do the trick

[wary wave]

yeah, what Stranger says really - the assert will have been hit for a reason, but without the callstack all you can really do is guess

always install the debugging symbols

[copper fable]

yeah installing them now 😃

[wary wave]

I don't know why the Epic launcher even gives you the choice

[cloud cobalt]

Because 20GB

And it's only really useful when you have VS installed

[wary wave]

it's not that big - but without it any error message you get from crashes are totally useless

[static viper]

wasnt it like 8

[cloud cobalt]

It's actually that big IIRC

[static viper]

unpacked

[wary wave]

it's between 6-8GB

[static viper]

but download was 8gb

[cloud cobalt]

Thought it was 10 but yesterday someone said it was 20

[static viper]

ah yes

[cloud cobalt]

Yeah, 8GB download, 20GB unpacked

[static viper]

that actually depends

i saw what you saw too

almost freaked out how big it was

after reinstall of engine it was 8 gbs again...

[plush yew]

Nobody can help me ?

[cloud cobalt]

If you explain in detail what you did, what you want and how what happened isn't what you wanted, yes

[wary wave]

to be fair, I don't think many (if any) people in here use World Creator anyway

[plush yew]

@cloud cobalt I use World Creator 2 to generate terrains, I want to export my terrains in UE4 for add details ( grass, rocks, trees... ) I know how to export the terrain in the UE4 with the heightmaps but I have problem with the texture exportation, I don't know how to do that correctly

[wary wave]

does World Creator not have it's own community for this kind of thing?

[plush yew]

@wary wave Yes, I think too 😦

[cloud cobalt]

Gonna need a hell more detail than that

[plush yew]

Yes, I asked on the world creator discord but I have no replies so I'm here ^^

[static viper]

people use world creator 2, but that doesnt mean that we are support for that

[plush yew]

it's to export to unreal engine, I thought the unreal engine discord was the best choice to find help

[static viper]

we are clearly not the best XD the best would be the developer

or the discord you came from really

[plush yew]

It's just a concern of misunderstanding on my part about the application of textures on unreal

[static viper]

ok

then give a question

i saw your post

need more info

i actually need some info

0 is bad

[wary wave]

we need to know what the actual problem is

[plush yew]

Ok, I will try to explai

explain*

[static viper]

we are over the part with the export

so you can go right into ue4

[plush yew]

I created a terrain on World creator, I applied a texture ( a basic texture, I just applied the texture on my terrain), at that moment I export my terrain ( a heigtmaps file), I export it on unreal and there, I have my terrain, so far everything is fine... Now, I need to do the same thing (so export the texture) and apply it to the exported field just before, when I want to export my texture, world creator gives me several choices like splat map, color map, ambient occlusion map, roughness map ect, so I have to export this texture in unreal to apply it to the field but I have two concerns: I don't know which file I should choose to export to use it on unreal and then, I don't know how to apply it on unreal ^^

I've tried tutorials but I'm French, there are not many resources in French and the English videos are too indirect for me, if the person forgets a detail, I can't ask him to show me so I'm lost ^^

wow

Is big lol sorry 😦

[static viper]

mh

[plush yew]

I hope is much better ^^

[static viper]

can you show the color map

or splat map

[plush yew]

Yes yes, can I send you this in private ? I don't know if I can send something here ?

[static viper]

make a snipping tool shot

and just copy paste here

[plush yew]

ok 😃

[static viper]

i dont need the full file

dont care

what resolution are these textures?

they should be 4k at least

[ruby folio]

Depends on the terrain size surely

[plush yew]

I don't know, this is textures in the world creator software, I can import new textures but before that, I need to know how to export in unreal lol, I send you the file

[wary wave]

tbh, sounds like you don't know what splat / colour / AO etc maps are?

so the problem is neither Unreal, nor World Creator?

[plush yew]

The textures and the options textures export

@wary wave I know a little bit about the principle of maps with all the videos I've seen but it doesn't really help me much

I can show you what are look like the differents maps if you need

Splat map is the texture file, color... the color lol, relief same, AO is grey like clouds, smoothness is black, roughness is white

[wary wave]

The maps are irrelevant; if you don't know what you want them for, then you can't know what you want to export and we can't help you :/

World Creator can probably generate all kinds of different texture maps, but how you use them is up to you

[plush yew]

I'm agree but my problem is about unreal engine import no World creator, I know how to export but no what export and after that, how apply on my world creator terrain exported in unreal

To apply a texture on unreal, you need specific files, right?

[static viper]

texture files?

[wary wave]

you don't 'apply textures', you create materials

https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-us/Engine/Landscape/Materials

[ruby folio]

@wary wave Beat me to it

[plush yew]

Yes, create materials sorry, so for " crate materials " I need specific files

[wary wave]

depending on how you want to set up your materials, you will want all kinds of different texture maps

this is why we can't help you

the materials do whatever you want them to do

if you don't know what that is, we can't either

[static viper]

there are alot of tutorials about this

and the language barrier is intended

[plush yew]

I seen many tutorials, but too many different ways to do this so I'm lost

[unreal spoke]

I want to store the "current camera", then change it to a dynamic one generated on the fly and after a few seconds I want to go back to the previous one. How can I do the store and restore part?

[cloud cobalt]

ambershee's point is that there is no such thing as "directly importing something from World Creator to a game engine"

[wary wave]

^

[static viper]

but how can you not know yet what texture files are if you watched tutorials

that is controverse

[wary wave]

@unreal spoke - manually in BP, probably

[static viper]

oh god i oversaw that

[cloud cobalt]

@plush yew You need to learn and understand how the engine works, so that you will be able to use a tool. UE4 doesn't have "world creator import" - it can import textures, height maps for terrain, and you can create materials to apply to it

If you can find a tutorial for World Creator + UE4, try following it to the letter

If something doesn't work along the way we might help

[plush yew]

As I said just before, there are too many ways to do it, every time I watch a video to do that, I discover a new way of doing it, I just want to find my world creator field on unreal, nothing more @static viper

[wary wave]

there's no magic bullet

[cloud cobalt]

That's not easy

[wary wave]

you need to learn how to use it

[cloud cobalt]

It's like saying you just want your drawing of a car to be a car

It's not that easy

Now this is easier than building a car, of course, but it's not automated

And there are 50 different ways of doing it

[plush yew]

I know well, I learned dozens of software myself, photoshop, illustrator, premiere, music software, rendering software, I'm really not the kind of guy to ask for magic lol I don't want the easy way but when I see 10 different ways in 10 different videos, my brain burn lol

[cloud cobalt]

Your job as a game developer is tying different creation tools into a game engine - every 3D artist routinely uses 3 or 4 different tools to create a single object, then imports all that stuff, and then builds the end-result together in the game engine

Take it step by step

Try importing your terrain's goemetry first

Learn UE4 materials

Google every texture name

Watch 10 tutorials if they have 10 methods

And then decide how you want to build your game

The way I do my game assets is not the way ambershee does

And I can say that even though I have no idea about anyone's process 😛

[plush yew]

I just want to clarify, I don't want to make a game, I just want to add detail to landscapes so I can then make images or videos, it's just landscape creation, nothing more but I see what you mean

[static viper]

@plush yew

what context

XD

[plush yew]

@cloud cobalt I'm on youtube, I will try to find THE video to show what is the problem

[cloud cobalt]

@plush yew basically you'll want a height map first, because that's what UE4 uses for terrains, and then you can look at UE4 materials for the surface detail

[plush yew]

Yes, height map is very easy to import 😃

[cloud cobalt]

Import the rest manually file by file, create a material, apply material to landscape

[static viper]

@plush yew but i am really intrested

[cloud cobalt]

You'll need an albedo (color) map, roughness map, and normal map

Yeah, stop that please

[plush yew]

Ok thats the last picture

[cloud cobalt]

Move the spamming to #lounge, or off the server

[plush yew]

[cloud cobalt]

Please remove the gifs ?

[plush yew]

@cloud cobalt World creator don't let me the possibily to export normal map

[static viper]

@plush yew dafaq you doin you freak

XD

[cloud cobalt]

<@&213101288538374145> ?

[plush yew]

😮

[cloud cobalt]

@plush yew If you're not using normal maps in your tool, there is nothing to import

[plush yew]

TAG

Useless tag

@cloud cobalt Okay

[wary wave]

Start here:
https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Engine/Landscape/QuickStart

worry about World Creator later

[opal spindle]

Anyways, so I asked this before but it kinda got snowed under: Does anyone know the algorithm/function used for the splines used to connect blueprint nodes?
I tried smootherstep but seems to not do the trick

[wary wave]

no idea tbh, it's probably hidden away in native code somewhere

[plush yew]

@wary wave Thank for the link

[wary wave]

the link is a basic landscape entirely in UE4

might help you understand the system

[plush yew]

I thinked unreal engine will be easier but I was wrong lol

[wary wave]

the more you understand the system, the better position you will be in to understand what you want out of World Creator

UE4's landscapes are easy to use

[unreal spoke]

How do I spawn a camera component into a scene component (not a regular actor)? With blueprints

[wary wave]

components can't have components.

[plush yew]

@cloud cobalt your so evil

[regal mulch]

You know, if you reach 10 points, it equals a ban.

(: So move offtopic to #lounge

[plush yew]

Perma?

[regal mulch]

Yop

[plush yew]

Uh

@wary wave You're right

Maybe I should give up world creator and do everything on unreal lol

[unreal spoke]

@wary wave Ouch 😦 Well, maybe I can create a class based on cameracomponent...

[cloud cobalt]

@plush yew That's an option, yeah

[unreal spoke]

@wary wave Thanks

[wary wave]

I would still use World Creator - but it's worth learning how to do things in Unreal so at least you know what it's doing and why

[plush yew]

@cloud cobalt I don't know if my fields will be so cool and realistic on engine lol

[cloud cobalt]

They can be

[plush yew]

@wary wave I know I know ^^

[ruby folio]

@plush yew This is the most basic landscape material setup to get you started.

[regal mulch]

Ping me if he keeps spamming. g2g back to working.

[plush yew]

Holy moly

[static viper]

thats not simple

[wary wave]

@ruby folio - there's an example like that in the quick start tutorial, hehe

[static viper]

you could use colors...

[plush yew]

[ruby folio]

@static viper Yeah but confusion

[cloud cobalt]

@plush yew Look at the tutorial ambershee linked - and start with a primer on materials if that's unclear

Materials are amazing

[static viper]

well he could just take his textures and... create layers

[cloud cobalt]

Materials are basically half rendering

It's a key engine skill

[static viper]

that will better work then importing world creator

you would only use the heightmap anyways

or maybe layer paint data...

[cloud cobalt]

I don't know specifically about world creator but stuff like erosion simulation tools would definitely generate interesting maps

[ruby folio]

Ahhh... I love that we can block spammers

[static viper]

only you

[plush yew]

Quick example

World creator + terrage,

terragen*

[static viper]

you can export these heightmaps

[wary wave]

95% of that image above is just fancy shaders and lighting inside whatever rendered it :p

[static viper]

ue4 can read that

[plush yew]

@wary wave Yeah I know :p

I have another idea

Why i get one point more?

I can also say fu*k to the textures of world creator and work directly on the "painting" on my heightmap imported on unreal

[ruby folio]

@plush yew To stop the owl crying

[static viper]

wehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

it is pretty basic

[ruby folio]

Its intended to be

[static viper]

i stated the obvious

[ruby folio]

Quite often too

[static viper]

go back to your caves...

[plush yew]

For me, this image is the reprensentation of hell 😃 😃 😃

[ruby folio]

😜

[static viper]

game dev isnt easy

but you can learn.

and learn fast

[ruby folio]

Unless youre an owl

[cloud cobalt]

@plush yew Start here : https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Engine/Rendering/Materials/IntroductionToMaterials

Practice materials a bit

I promise this will be 100% useful

[plush yew]

I think I will take time to read your links

I think unreal is a georgous software and I need practice

[copper fable]

when the editor crashes

[plush yew]

I'm sci fi author, I don't want to make games, just make beautiful landscape

[copper fable]

https://gyazo.com/1eea44a0a2e26618bcfb31bb54ad07b6

the break point is at: check(ContainerPtr)

[plush yew]

Yea

Wow

[wary wave]

'making beautiful landscapes' is what a fair number of professional game developers do for a living :p

[plush yew]

Game developement is definitively not for me but living with my " beautiful landscapes " is a nice idea 😄

[kindred viper]

sometimes enjoying the fruits of game development is better than the grind to produce it

[plush yew]

Yeah

[wary wave]

almost always xD

[plush yew]

I have another quick questions

What's the difference between : Props / Meshes ?

[wary wave]

well, there's no such thing as a 'prop' in Unreal

[cloud cobalt]

Props is slang for small meshes

[plush yew]

My native language don't help me to understand the terms lol

[wary wave]

Props are usually blueprints / meshes or whatever

but they're not a specific asset type or anything

[cloud cobalt]

Actually "prop" is slang for objects on a movie set

Game developers stole it

[whole quarry]

props are meshes, usually 😛

[plush yew]

Ok lol

[whole quarry]

its items to fill the scene

[plush yew]

Because I am on unreal right now and I see rocks in " props " and grass in " meshes "

[whole quarry]

kind of makes sense to me

[plush yew]

I think I have some problems with the terms because of my native language

[ruby folio]

@plush yew You using assets from the marketplace?

[plush yew]

I donwloaded this morning this :

Downloaded*

Open World Foliage, for test the grass, was free so ^^

[wary wave]

there are a fair few free assets

[wary wave]

the open world ones are particularly good

[plush yew]

Yes, this what I love unreal lol

why*

This is why* f*ck

Do you know if I can change the color of this grass, for example ?

[grim sinew]

Probably.

[whole quarry]

edit the material 😛

[grim sinew]

I mean, I know I can, I don't know if you can.

Do you know how to edit materials? Add a multiply and 3 vector param after the base color so you can change it that way

[plush yew]

I don't know how to do that but I will try, give me a minute 😄

[paper kernel]

this rustles my jimmies greatly

Audio occlusion is instant

[plush yew]

Hm, I think I need to watch some videos to change the color lol

Oh my god, I changed the color, I'm a legend

Oh no, false alert

[lament coyote]

I don't know where it's the right place to ask this.
My editor is all the time gathering all the actors in the world and while it's doing that I can hardly work, it's too choppy. I see it's going through all 27000 actors in the world outliner which takes 5 seconds, and until it's done, I have to wait until the editor runs smoothly again. Any idea what it's doing this all the time? It hasn't always been like that.

[plush yew]

I have another dumb question :

Usually, I make render with Terragen, Rendering Software, to add clouds, fog, modify sun ect... If I use UE4 for my landscapes, do I need to add something like " render plugin " in unreal or no ?

Or I need to export my unreal scene and open it in terragen to make a render ?

( Terragen or another render software )

[simple dock]

hey i have a custom movement component for my pawn i made in c++

but i cannot add it to pawn

i dont understand why not, i try to drag it in but nothing happens and when i use 'add component' and search for it, it does not find it

[cloud cobalt]

@plush yew UE4 has its own renderer, which is meant for speed of render. If you want to use another rendering software, UE4 is pointless

[simple dock]

why dpoesnt this work? do i need to edit engine source and force it?

[static viper]

you should bring this directly to #cpp

this is special

and you dont need to make low effort screenshots

just make ones which only show the important stuff

[simple dock]

hmm i didnt i made a screenshot, photoshop copy paste doesnt work

[static viper]

snipping tool.

[simple dock]

gotta save, i hate the new photoshop, u can only copy/paste 'within' it lol, im so used 2 just copy/paste

[trim tapir]

You guys know if there's a really easy way to procedurally generate terrain?

[frosty copper]

Easy is subjective 🤔

[static viper]

unreal dont has runtime landscape generation

[wary wave]

also the answer is 'no'

[static viper]

so you will have to use something else

[grim sinew]

The easiest way to procedurally generate terrain is to import the clouds filter from Photoshop as a heightmap

[wary wave]

there is no easy way to procedurally generate terrain

[grim sinew]

[frosty copper]

There's no "noob friendly" way

[static viper]

noob friendly

now define that

[frosty copper]

Drag, drop and click a check box.

[static viper]

that is meta

you didnt answer the questions XD

you scared away like a little pupper

[frosty copper]

🤔

If i "scared away" i wouldn't have answered at all

[static viper]

no more ot XD

[frosty copper]

I will bap you. With a fishie.

[grim ore]

change the landscape generation seed at runtime, how hard could that be 😛

[cloud cobalt]

There is no seed right now

[grim ore]

no no you have that wrong there has to be a random seed, everything has a random seed

why would they release the engine without a random terrain seed

[cloud cobalt]

I know you're trolling here, but I wanted to clarify, because obviously someone here is looking into procedural terrain

[grim ore]

more sarcasm and less trolling lol

[static viper]

👀

[grim ore]

I wonder if any of the engines have like a random generation system for terrain built in. I know some of the assets in Unity support it

[cloud cobalt]

🤷 It's something you can do anywhere

There are UE4 games with procedural terrain too

[wary wave]

getting something basic up and running isn't so hard

getting something good and performant....

[cloud cobalt]

Performance is clearly a problem. No Man's Sky runs like shit on PS4 for example

Wondering if Astroneer runs fine on XBox, since it's UE4 based

[grim ore]

damn I thought it was something added in 4.21 but thats getting the landscape heightmap out to a render target and not back in

[cloud cobalt]

Welp, looking at reviews, it doesn't.

@grim ore generating a 2D terrain heightmap is pretty trivial

That's not the hard part for terrain generation

Like, Kerbal Space Program famously used a sample program from libnoise for their entire planet surface

[grim ore]

so in theory it's not that hard to make it then? not good, but just something that does something at random push of a button type thing

[copper fable]

i did of terrain generation in uinty

wasnt to hard

not sure about UE4

[cloud cobalt]

The hard part is not generating pseudonoise, it's everything else

Like streaming the data, supporting LOD, collision...

And in the case of dynamic terrain deformation, the gameplay around it

Not to mention people expect 3D terrain since Minecraft - not just 2D terrain, but lifelike surfaces with caves, holes etc

[grim sinew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNj986LBYD4 Here now go make procedural terrain with this.

Substance Designer is the best terrain generation tool, clearly

[grim ore]

nah I was thinking just more of adding some subtle noise to the terrain might be nice. something rather than a flat surface to work on but having something with some feel to it might be a nice start.

[grim sinew]

Okay I was being facetious but this is actually pretty decent I'm going to need to watch this at some point

[vale silo]

looks like 4.21.2 hotfix issue list is all squared 😏

[grim ore]

so the texture maps for that were made in SD?

[cloud cobalt]

Textures might be misleading

[wary wave]

I could imagine texture maps for terrain being an ideal application of SD

masks and all

[cloud cobalt]

The problem with SD right now is that everyone is back to thinking displacement maps are a good idea

Substance needs something like a low poly baking

[grim sinew]

Yeah. They make the larger forms you would do in world machine, all the way down to the smaller tiling stuff

It's apparently all SD

And yeah, if Substance could get some decimation stuff built into it, that would be nice

[cloud cobalt]

Half Substance showoffs these days are incredibly good-looking, and also hopelessly unusable in a game engine

"Just needs infinite tessellation and this 8K height map"

[grim sinew]

Infinite tessellation, 10 minutes raytracing, and 8k textures.

All hail our lord and savior, the artstation substance material ball.

There's nothing wrong with displacement, it's just not the final step. You need to bake it down, and people want to (understandably) skip that step

I was even considering a while ago using dynamic substances and a pre-tessellated plane to get some cool WPO displacement

But turns out lightmass doesn't look at WPO and that ruined that idea

But the idea of it would still work really well, for massive surfaces you don't want to visibly tile and get actual displacement out of vertex blending

[cloud cobalt]

The idea is fine as an internal tool

But displacement isn't what you want at runtime, imho

Specifically not just displacement

[tall pendant]

i hate all those high res displacement maps rendered in toolbag...

doesn't look like it in-game..so it's kinda pointless imho

[cloud cobalt]

It's relevant as an art piece tbh - not everything needs to be made into a runtime render

I'm just not sure how many of the artists understand that it's not a runtime render

[tall pendant]

ofc. But i'm talking about game art 😄

i dislike it when people present their game art in toolbag

thats what i mean

[cloud cobalt]

Yeah, I know, I agree

[copper fable]

could anyone help, my game keeps crashing throwing this exception

https://gyazo.com/dae0cee0e3e6c7e6707daf17fd9165ad

[pallid compass]

Bit blurry but looks like nullptr

[wary wave]

you need to look at the call stack

that's just the assert that eventually gets hit

[cloud cobalt]

yup

[pallid compass]

Y discord always give me blurry images

On phone

[cloud cobalt]

Debug -> Windows -> Call stack

IIRC

[wary wave]

but yeah, it looks like an array contains a null pointer

ergo splodes

@copper fable - are you using some kind of plugin?

[copper fable]

nope

[wary wave]

this is the kind of thing I'd normally associate with dodgy native code

[copper fable]

acts

i am using niagara

[wary wave]

It seems to be related to the monster tick event

[copper fable]

yeah

[wary wave]

but need the call stack

[copper fable]

shall i send a picture?

[wary wave]

something like that

[copper fable]

https://gyazo.com/c94b1c501dd2ed86d72e452d24924164

don't know if that is any use

[wary wave]

alright, so what does the monster's tick function look like?

there's an array somewhere that has something horrible in it

[copper fable]

https://gyazo.com/d79d5292ca19b5f7b02bbabaea11156b

thats it

[pallid compass]

What's in that end func

[plush yew]

hey i have a question i got a error where can i ask for it ?

[grim ore]

You can ask anywhere, pick a channel if it's more appropriate.

[plush yew]

its like for the ue4 buildtool i got a error from

[obtuse path]

What a stupid bug I've run into on the forums - apparently when you write a code snippet that includes angular brackets, it deletes everything between the brackets and the brackets themselves! Just reported it, but has anyone else run into this issue?

[copper fable]

it just destroys the particle emitter and other stuff

but that isnt being called

[wary wave]

well something is doing something

[cloud cobalt]

@copper fable Unplug stuff from the graph until it doesn't crash

[copper fable]

trying that now 😄

[thorny cipher]

Anyone got simplygon working in 4.19?

Getting this? 🤔

Oh

The UE4 installer didnt include source files

https://github.com/Simplygon-UE/UnrealEngine

For anyone wanting it 😉

[next badger]

@thorny cipher you need to use custom build of ue4?

what is "advanced" means?

This branch contains the code for the Advanced integration. Please note that this is not a stand-alone plugin which means original unreal engine source code has been modified. For more information please navigate to the Read Me section

and the link goes to readme that has no any info

[thorny cipher]

I used the top ones

This doesn't come with source, so if you have custom built engine it wont work

It only puts binaries in the directory, not source files

https://github.com/Simplygon-UE/UnrealEngine/tree/SgStd-4.19

I pulled the plugin files out of this

No idea why they dont just have the plugins themselves published somewhere

[next badger]

no idea why the "issues" are disabled...

[thorny cipher]

Microsoft

😄

[next badger]

@thorny cipher i wanted to say that, but ms has few decent repos on GitHub

[bitter iris]

Anyone know why my SphereReflectionCapture looks dull on the floor at day time? https://gyazo.com/de393523237da99fcac5599fb24f1631

[next badger]

like https://github.com/Microsoft/WSL/issues

[thorny cipher]

https://simplygon.freshdesk.com/support/discussions

They have an empty forum

for "support"

Oh maybe i need to be logged in

@bitter iris Why are you using sphere reflections w/ dynamic lighting

[bitter iris]

i dunno arent they good for adding more light?

[thorny cipher]

Not really, they are not captured in realtime

[next badger]

@thorny cipher i'm logged in and there's many forums, but they were dead for some time

[thorny cipher]

So if you capture while sun it up, and then it goes night, all your objects within a range will see the sun

[bitter iris]

oh

how else can i do it? i dont want to use alot of light sources as it messes the fps

[next badger]

@bitter iris you may use day/night switching tho

[thorny cipher]

if you have 0 reflection captures then it'll be dynamic

It'll be screen-space

[next badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbayGU6fehY

[thorny cipher]

@next badger Yeah dead lol

[bitter iris]

nope

prefer dynamic

[thorny cipher]

Yeah dynamic gives best results for open world

Otherwise you'd need 100s of them

[bitter iris]

yeah lol

[next badger]

@bitter iris reflection probes are precomputed...so...

[thorny cipher]

Or you can "recapture" when it goes night, but it'll hitch

Not sure if it's exposed to BP though

[next badger]

@thorny cipher i'm not sure that capture is part of the engine runtime, it may be that it's an Editor code

[thorny cipher]

If you need more light in buildings, try up your skylight intensity and tweak AO settings

@next badger Could be actually

[next badger]

and you can't use Editor code in game

[thorny cipher]

yeah

Unless you code it in yourself

[bitter iris]

so what other ways can i get it to use more light without the reflection thing

[thorny cipher]

i told you up there

"If you need more light in buildings, try up your skylight intensity and tweak AO settings
"

[bitter iris]

lemme go up

oh

but then that affects the whole world

[thorny cipher]

indeed

this is what auto exposure was designed for

[bitter iris]

auto exposure is horrible

[thorny cipher]

you can customise it with post volumes

[bitter iris]

it needs to be perfect

[thorny cipher]

AE is bad by default

Once you configure it, it can be nice

[bitter iris]

ill give it a go

[languid sandal]

Hey guys I just downloaded the unreal engine. And I’m gonna make a little test game. How long does it usually take you guys to finish a small project ? 2-3 weeks? Or is that unrealistic ?

[bitter iris]

Define "small"

[languid sandal]

Just a basic shooter 1st person/3rd

Just get map mechanics down

And get a character moving around

[bitter iris]

solo?

[languid sandal]

Yeah

[bitter iris]

i mean some guys in the game jams do it quite fast not sure to the extent you want it though

[grim ore]

get character moving? instant using a template. Get a basic map? 10 minutes if randomly placing brushes. done in 15!

[bitter iris]

Lol

[languid sandal]

@grim ore haha yeah but a little more indebted. Like a completed game, just not really in debt I wanna just mess with random little details to get the hang of things

[thorny cipher]

UE4 network optimization live stream starting in 24 mins https://www.twitch.tv/unrealengine

[grim ore]

well a complete game is relative to the person but yeah a few weeks is no problem Unless you are learning as you go, then the definition of complete is lower lol

[languid sandal]

Ohh ok forsure thanks man.

[grim ore]

if you just use a starting template for FPS or TPS your basic movement is done. The rest is level layout and design and with geometry brushes you can do it all in engine without any real engine knowledge (coding, etc.)

making textures might take a little work but once you get a master material the rest is just making variations and slapping it on stuff

beyond that I guess you need a UI and that is a little bit of work but there is enough out there to get that done in a short while.

after that it's complete technically. adding in sounds or music is a little work but not much to make it more complete. then adding in more weapons is where it might go off the rails.

[languid sandal]

Ohh yeah? Adding weapons for pick up complicates things when you’re working with it?

[grim ore]

at that point your working with things like tracking things internally for pickups, do you want more than 1 weapon and if so you make a basic inventory or weapon system... and it goes downhill from there in terms of what you need to learn

which is why complete is subjective. moving around a grey area going pew pew? easy. Making a simple map with objectives and multiple weapons and ammo and hell firing types? harder. adding in things like AI to fight against? how many years you got? 😛

for a FPS there is a shooter project that can be picked apart but it uses C++ so..... 😦

on the good news front tho FPS/TPS are common game types so there are plenty of people out there with tutorials explaining how to do it 😃

[languid sandal]

Ohh true 😃 thanks for all your input 👍😁

[abstract relic]

Make a simple arcade game. It’ll limit your scope and typically hits the basics of what you need in future games

[next badger]

@languid sandal we generally do jam submissions in 3 or 7 days, but all the people are experienced with engine (some has years)

it's not hard to make a game with ue4, it's hard to learn it

[languid sandal]

Ohh makes sense. How big is your team?

3-7 days like fully published?

[next badger]

@languid sandal yep, it's fully published...2-5 ppl

some could make game solo

in the same time span

[languid sandal]

That’s pretty good!?

In order to work with a team, would I have to share UE files with them? Or how does that work?

[next badger]

generally those games have a lot of bugs

[languid sandal]

I’m about to download it right now and take a swing at things. Just kinda curious.

[next badger]

@languid sandal Version Control

[abstract relic]

Not really. It means you’re good at everything but not great at one subject

[next badger]

@languid sandal for ue4 it's Perforce

@abstract relic "good"...let's say not bad

i'm good at 3d art, so i prefer working on that when we jam

[abstract relic]

“good” = functional

[next badger]

also, jam day is 25hrs

[grim ore]

It's the UE4 Livestream or the MK11 reveal stream.....

[abstract relic]

Show off your work when you get a chance 😃

[next badger]

@abstract relic me?

[abstract relic]

Yes

[next badger]

https://itch.io/profile/s-ed

there was Robots on the Budget game, that i consider a best of those

https://i.imgur.com/SgziVx9.jpg

[wary wave]

that looks suspiciously like Robo Rally

[next badger]

@wary wave nah, it's just a plane for assets, levels were 3d

[wary wave]

fair

[next badger]

i just have no screenshots

[wary wave]

you should probably rectify that 😉

[next badger]

oh, this one as well not on the itch

https://i.imgur.com/xpmG4IQ.png

It was called Shaman

[static viper]

looks ok

[next badger]

made chars and levels for it

https://i.imgur.com/Zx1nNig.png

https://i.imgur.com/G093YHR.png

https://i.imgur.com/pkh5wJi.png

[static viper]

oh nonono

dont show me

T_T

i love it

but now i am inspired

to create crystal monsters...

for my game

[next badger]

found, it was 2017-11 MegaJam

[static viper]

they are animated?

[next badger]

ofc

[static viper]

is vertex painted?

or texture?

it looks vertex

[next badger]

texture

[static viper]

mh

has game settings menu?

[next badger]

there was a menu, but not settings one iirc

[static viper]

😐

[safe rose]

Robots on a Budget Good jam

[next badger]

gamejam pack was not made yet iirc

@safe rose indeed

[wary wave]

settings menus take valuable dev time, hehe

[static viper]

having a settings menu is a major advantage

i would not count it at all

just take a random one

[safe rose]

Like pre-made menu?

[static viper]

its like

[safe rose]

I've seen plenty of people do it

And win

[static viper]

a basic thingy everything can reuse

[safe rose]

Feels...meh

[next badger]

@static viper for gamejam game? advantage?

[static viper]

yes

just premake one

and have it in every jam

it helps soooo much

and it has nothing todo with your game at all

the art

or gameplay

so everyone should be able to integrate it for free

[next badger]

um, but menu is a part of game jam pack now isn't it?

[static viper]

is it?

game jam pack?

regardless

it should be provided to every gamejammer

[next badger]

@static viper it is provided, it's free

[static viper]

purfect :3

that will make testing so much easier

[next badger]

http://www.tomshannon3d.com/2018/01/game-jam-toolkit.html

[static viper]

i cant view that page

but

thats ok

[next badger]

@static viper https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/announcements-and-releases/asset-sharing/1417286-game-jam-toolkit

same but on forums

[thorny cipher]

https://www.twitch.tv/unrealengine

live

[quick breach]

When 4.22 ? )))

[tall pendant]

rumors are around gdc

[signal orchid]

Nice stream today guys, thanks! 😬

[clever pond]

Today's stream was 👌

Quite good, would recommend 😄

[signal orchid]

haha, the server uptime issue answer was quite helpful

[manic pawn]

server uptime issue?

[signal orchid]

dedicated server performance gets a bit wacky the longer it stays up, mainly due to floating precision in the server's time var

the higher the tick rate the quicker it leads up to that

not much of an issue for session based games but for MMOs and other games that require servers to stay up for hours it's quite the issue

[manic pawn]

what was the solution?

[signal orchid]

depends on the game, but the general fix was to change the server time type to a double instead of a float and possibly lower the tick rate of the server

[abstract relic]

insanity is always fun

[lament coyote]

I don't know where it's the right place to ask this.
My editor is all the time gathering all the actors in the world and while it's doing that I can hardly work, it's too choppy. I see it's going through all 27000 actors in the world outliner which takes 5 seconds, and until it's done, I have to wait until the editor runs smoothly again. Any idea why it's doing this all the time? It hasn't always been like that.

[grim ore]

how do you see it going thru all the actors?

and how often

[next badger]

@grim ore btw, how is your small game project going? have you started?

[grim ore]

oh I started and I stopped and I started and its now stopped lol 😃 Real life is a bitch

[lament coyote]

Hey @grim ore i see tons of actor names going through the world outliner list. Now Im working on a sequence and it‘s doing it very often. When I scroll through the timeline it happens often. Outside of the sequencer it always happens when I stop to play or often when i delete or create new objects. I cant quite put my finger on what exactly causes it. Its not completely predictable. I first had this happen after switching to 4.20 i think.

[grim ore]

you don't have anything running on construct on your objects do you? the ones in your scene

[lament coyote]

I do

So it constructs them all all the time?

[grim ore]

it constructs them on creation as well as when they move

[lament coyote]

Why would it do that when i just move around in the world and place objects or move stuff?

Yeah these actors are not touched at all tho

[grim ore]

it shouldn't when you just move no, but looking at construction scripts as a cause for lag was my first thought

the system could be auto saving as a second idea

[lament coyote]

Yes its a good idea

Auto saving happens every 25 mins, not all the time

Would it construct an actor when it was culled away but now it becomes visible as its near my camera?

[dark depot]

should only be when it moves or is changed in some way

[grim ore]

as far as I know no, but that is a good question. I thought that was just visibility

[split wedge]

im trying to make a light house and just wonder how do i make a bsp circle taper in to lookslanted

[lament coyote]

Well, i certainly dont touch those actors at all

[grim ore]

I don't know if anyone else can give any more advice if we can't see it. It's weird if the engine is processing the actors in the world on its own

[lament coyote]

it now happens very frequently when i go through the timeline of the sequencer. the camera is switching between far away places in the world

but often it also does the transition smoothlywithout that happening

but it's such a pain to work on it atm with these frequent delays and lags

[split wedge]

have you tried to turn auto compiler off

[lament coyote]

no. is auto compiling that it compiles uncompiled actors when I hit play?

because it has nothing to do with compiling

[grim ore]

it's weird it would happen in the editor, i mean it could be rendering lag but 5 seconds is a long time but maybe it does have to do with your construction scripts all firing when the objects are recreated.

[lament coyote]

can i somehow disable constructing without unplugging it in every single actor? that would be interesting to try

[grim ore]

it's a weird option but you could duplicate the map, then edit the duplicate by removing items a group at a time and see if you can figure it out. See if it's related to static stuff without scripts or if it's something code related running.

[lament coyote]

yeah, I will try to exclude constructing and see what happens

thanks so far

[grim ore]

there is probably a way of profiling this all as well and then checking the profile graph but I will be damned if I know that

[lament coyote]

i just know it did never happen before an engine update

in 4.19 i think it was still ok

[grim ore]

I doubt this is it but you said it's happening more often in sequecer, this was added in 4.20 New: Enabled "Run Construction Scripts in Sequencer" by default.

[lament coyote]

interesting. i only started working in the sequencer today tho, so in my normal editor routine it still happens too often

is there a list of situations where the construction script is run?

for example does it run when you "play"?

it has also become a pain to play, because it takes sometimes half a minute to finally start

oh I guess if I put a "print" in a construction script I could easily find out @grim ore ?

[zenith flower]

insanity:

I have to set both to by ref, compile, unset both, compile for that warning to go away

also, if I override the function in a child player controller, and enable dedicated server, I get an inf loop

Thats insanity

(If I remove any kind of array from the event, it works, it doesn't matter if I'm using them or not)

[manic pawn]

insanity: using reroute nodes but somehow still having everything misaligned

[zenith flower]

insanity: using reroute nodes to make everything pretty, just to mess it all up while debugging, and then getting called out for it.

[split wedge]

how do i taper a hollow cylinder to look slanted

[manic pawn]

got some blueprints from hell candidates with those last 2 !

[zenith flower]

uh.... no not really

[manic pawn]

this seems like a thing that should really not be in bp

[zenith flower]

seems like you're a c++ person

I tell you what, I can look at that, and remember what it does
vs staring at code for an hour just to get my bearings

[manic pawn]

wait wut

those get nodes are all set to index 0

[zenith flower]

anyways, the point is, don't talk shit because I HAPPEN to put SINGLE picture up, with messy reroute nodes

[manic pawn]

pls I'm kidding

[zenith flower]

its an old picture

[manic pawn]

that's an interesting way to use a comment node

I never thought of adding multiple lines in the header

[zenith flower]

current :

Insanity

and no, i wasn't hiding a reroute node under it

that actually happened to me once

[manic pawn]

/ 10

[abstract relic]

You heathen

[lament coyote]

@grim ore with the "print string" in a construction script I can now see that it is not constructing anything when this happens. It will always do this thing when I open or close the sequencer but the print string isn't showing anything at that moment. I recorded how it looks https://streamable.com/4qw08 In there I can see that it starts to list also actors that definetely have no construction script, like a post process volume. It looks like it simply adds all actors to the list.

[lament coyote]

This fixed it: https://i.imgur.com/ftIvYrF.png

[coarse osprey]

I need a lottle bit of help here

I need to make rain at some time, but the way that the default sky shpere handles the cloud textures wont help

The cloud just rotates, they wont really move, so there will never be clouds directly on top of the player

I want some way to have clouds on top of me, so i can make it rain without it looking odd

Volumetric clouds are not an option, since it costs too much performance

[grim sinew]

Make a new sky.

[coarse osprey]

How.

[grim sinew]

Well you can render one in something like Vue, you can use an HDRI, or you can walk outside, take a picture of clouds, and composite it together in Photoshop.

Behold the middleground between "default engine sky" and "state of the art volumetric clouds" - Just doing it yourself 😛

[zenith flower]

But what if it's not cloudy outside?

[grim sinew]

Then wait until a cloudy day

[zenith flower]

Can you do it for me?

Oh wait... Wrong person

[grim sinew]

Nope

[coarse osprey]

I need something dynamic, static images wont help much

[zenith flower]

Make a voxel, procedurally generated volumetric cloud then

[grim sinew]

Honestly, ya probably don't. Majority of games don't have dynamic skies, they just fake it by layering manual cloud layers.

[zenith flower]

Should solve all but the performance issues

[grim sinew]

Everything you believe is a lie, now start out slow and just try to do a single layer skybox

😛

[zenith flower]

True

I have a whole real-time volumetric weather simulator that's on hold until I have the energy to keep crying

[grim sinew]

Besides, actually making a skybox always looks better anyway. Voxels are too low res

[zenith flower]

Super sampling. Duh

;)

[grim sinew]

Shocking, I know, but offline rendering a skybox with 500x the voxels gets you higher quality than trying to do it realtime, and it runs like 100x faster

[zenith flower]

Ok, enough playing around back to work for me

[thin wolf]

this might be the wrong place but where can i look for someone to hire besides the channel created as i cant post or reply?

[grim sinew]

@thin wolf You look in that channel you just mentioned. Read the pinned message, it says how to use it.

[fierce remnant]

can I get a shout out for all the girl devs in the chat

[velvet finch]

in UE4 say my character faces this mesh this way

does UE4 render the back faces of this mesh?

or does it only render the polys i see?

debating if i should make a 2nd version devoid of the back faces since i'm going to be using this piece quite often in making buildings

[abstract relic]

By default, it’s culled by object. Not polygon.

[velvet finch]

i see

so that means i'll have to make a seperate one for optimization sake

since very few of these meshes would have the back faces visible to the player

[abstract relic]

You may run into lightning issues. If that mesh will be intersecting with another object, then the mesh doesn’t need to be closed

[velvet finch]

yup they will be intersecting with other pieces

to form an industrial building

but some rooms will be explorable by the players

well player

they won't be able to explore the whole complex though just a few rooms

[abstract relic]

Well worst case scenario, you can always remap and rebake if you find unneeded polys.

[velvet finch]

yup

trying to keep each scene to a limit of 40k polys visible

[grim sinew]

Unreal will by default only render one side of the polygon. Same as Maya does. Maya is doing a trick for you where it duplicates all the geo and flips the normals automatically to "help" you

But for game artists, it just hinders you and gives you an inaccurate preview

[abstract relic]

Technically polys are one sided anyway

[grim sinew]

Yep, as I just said 😛 In other words, that is

[velvet finch]

i see

[grim sinew]

If you want it to be two sided, it doubles the polycount

[velvet finch]

i don't mean so much as in i want the polys to be double face but rather

[abstract relic]

Are there double sided polys in there? I cannot tell

[velvet finch]

the back side of the static mesh that is not visible

whether it loads when its not visible to the player

[grim sinew]

The back side will not be visible unless you specifically go into the material in Unreal and tell it to be.

The back side does not exist. Maya is lying to you.

[velvet finch]

so if this is the mesh

does this back side load

[grim sinew]

Yes, because that is actual polygons

[abstract relic]

I think he means the mesh as a unit. Not the polys

[velvet finch]

alrighty yup

yea

[grim sinew]

When I say backside, I mean the backside of the individual polygons.

[velvet finch]

ah yea

that i'm not doing haha

at least no use for doing that atm

[grim sinew]

To answer your question, no. No game engine on earth is going to automatically cull individual polygons you can't see. It loads the whole mesh.

[velvet finch]

alrighty

[abstract relic]

Remember to send us pretty pictures of your work when it’s done 😜

[velvet finch]

so thats confirmation from both of you thanks!

sure!

[grim sinew]

If you have a 1 million poly mesh and only 5 polys are visible, the whole thing is rendered anyway.

[velvet finch]

alrighty

so i'll make 2 seperate versions then

one for the far away only exterior visible

and one with the full mesh

[grim sinew]

Also, terminate your edge loops when they're not needed anymore

Merge the verts

[velvet finch]

for the ones players will interact with

gotcha

[abstract relic]

Always have the base mesh. Good on you 👍🏼

Just don’t retopolize the base mesh. If you decide to rework it later. Those edge loops are needed for clean modeling.

[velvet finch]

yup

i always keep a copy of the one with edge loops

on the base

[abstract relic]

Then again

[velvet finch]

the iterations of it

i'll remove them

[grim sinew]

And always remember you're making a game asset. Quads don't matter.

[abstract relic]

You can just use Boolean

[grim sinew]

Everything is triangulated anyway

[velvet finch]

alrighty

[abstract relic]

Rule 1: polygons are a lie 😜

[grim sinew]

Rule 2: This isn't 2006. You don't need to fear polygons. Including the extra polys from dynamic shadows, you're good up until 20 million polys visible at any given time.

It's preferable to have more polygons, if it means you can save on material complexity.

[abstract relic]

I don’t know about you but when the wireframe looks solid, I’m very scared

[dry moon]

What if I'm at 20million already

what do

[velvet finch]

ah alrighty

[grim sinew]

Then use LODs

[dry moon]

What if I got heavy LODs

[grim sinew]

And if the wireframe looks solid, honestly I just stopped caring anymore. Quad overdraw isn't really a problem in deferred

[velvet finch]

thats good coz i don't think i can even come close to 1 mil polys haha

[dry moon]

and most of it is from lots of foliage

[velvet finch]

at any given time XD

[grim sinew]

@dry moon Then use less foliage or don't be terrible. 😛

[abstract relic]

Famous last words Tear 😜

[dry moon]

But I need dense forests to be beautiful

[velvet finch]

i have a huge lack of foliage in my game haha

[grim sinew]

Also more LODs =/= better. Not always the case there. LODs have a cost in themselves.

[velvet finch]

its just a floating metal platform with 8 zones haha

[grim sinew]

And you can have dense forests. You can also have dense forests that don't run like crap. If you want to really have a dense scene, you need to be smart for it to work.

[abstract relic]

You can fix that by adding metal flowers

[velvet finch]

i might regret saying that when i get closer to the finish haha

[grim sinew]

It's really easy for stuff to get out of hand when you're duplicating it a few thousand times

The more dense you want a forest scene to be, the more diligent you need to be about good practices for it to work

[dry moon]

ya ik I'm going 30FPS 1080p right now on Xbox One, I eventually going to write something about optimization on consoles with foilage

Lots of pain trying to get that running really good

😦

[grim sinew]

If you're not working at a major studio and still managing to push current gen consoles to the point where they can't even run at 30 fps, you have problems.

There is something fundamentally wrong with your assets

[dry moon]

fallout 76 would like to speak with you

[velvet finch]

hmm if i cut down the number of assets i have by half

and the poly count increases by 40%

[grim sinew]

Current consoles are not weak, they're well above the average spec PC Unreal 4 was built with in mind.

[velvet finch]

would that be worth it?

[dry moon]

Nah current consoles are definitely weak

[grim sinew]

@velvet finch Don't optimize your scene until your scene is finished.

[velvet finch]

it would prob brind the max number of polys at most to 150kpolys

alrighty

[grim sinew]

You can play the optimization game until the end of time and never reach the end. It is a bottomless rabbit hole.

[dry moon]

The Xbox One base is factually the weakest as well

[velvet finch]

i'm getting the idea that we just optimize enough for it to run smoothly and then just leave it

[grim sinew]

@dry moon They are not weak. They are weak by current PC standards, but they are not weak systems. Or need I remind you how dense the foliage was in Ryse?

[velvet finch]

and load fast

[abstract relic]

Go crazy in other words then we’ll poke fun at you like hodd over here 😜

[velvet finch]

alrighty haha

[grim sinew]

And I guarantee you, Ryse looks better than what you're probably working on. You can do it, you just need to put effort in.

[dry moon]

Sounds like you need to work on consoles

then get back to me

Ryse was 900p

30FPS

[grim sinew]

Oh cry me a river, 900p vs 1080p isn't a huge gap. 😛

[dry moon]

Most major studios cannot pull off solid gameplay on base Xbox One anymore without crazy downgrades

[grim sinew]

And it looked incredible, especially considering how close it launched to the release of the systems

And now you're conflating visual optimization with gameplay.

[dry moon]

Even Resident Evil 2, has those dibs hard on base Xbox One

[grim sinew]

https://www.mobygames.com/images/promo/original/1472429966-363177756.jpg Your game needs more dense foliage than this?

[dry moon]

Yeah

[grim sinew]

https://sfx.thelazy.net/static/media/medthumb/Ryse_2016-01-08_21-22-12_Copy.jpg How do you intend on seeing 5 feet in front of your face?

[dry moon]

Smart level design?

hard thing to think about I know

[grim sinew]

That would require you to be able to see the level behind all the foliage cards

[dry moon]

but you'll get there one day bud

[abstract relic]

Is it some sort of grass maze? That sounds amazing

[grim sinew]

https://twitter.com/ambiguousgames/status/1086075214381735936 No, this is his project.

Wayne S. (@ambiguousgames)

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[dry moon]

Well you can instead of using a rock wall as a way block the player

you can use foliage as a way to force paths

in a game that's supposed to be heavily about nature, you can kinda expect lots of foliage

as a way to build walls

[abstract relic]

There’s quite a bit of unimpeded line of sight though

Gotta give culling a fighting chance here mate

[grim sinew]

Like this you mean?

[abstract relic]

It does look lovely however

[dry moon]

Culling sure, you can use smart level design to build levels/hills to it

to encourage that

= smart level design

[grim sinew]

Undeserved as it may be from a visual point of view, I love your unabashed confidence. Keep at it.

[abstract relic]

Hills, switchbacks, sure

[dry moon]

You definitely can't say consoles are the same as a mid tier PC in today's terms. 2013 release date

Its getting there in age to the point where its a pain

[grim sinew]

I didn't say anything about mid tier PC.

[dry moon]

Well if you are saying not weak, they are mid tier

Weak console is a weak PC

[grim sinew]

No, I'm saying they're competent machines that you can do a lot with.

Look at Paragon, if you need proof of that. Even the same engine.

http://www.gaming-age.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Paragon_5.jpg

[dry moon]

Yeah and they had trade offs with a lot of what they had to do to make sure they hit consoles

[grim sinew]

Yeah. And artistically it looks stunning, and it ran just fine on all consoles it was ported to.

[dry moon]

Definitely not the same development ideals as PC

[abstract relic]

You may want to switch your targeted hardware if it’s too limiting

[dry moon]

Its 2013 hardware

[abstract relic]

and?

[dry moon]

and?

[dark depot]

but its one system

[grim sinew]

^

[dark depot]

thats the difference

take the same parts and run a pc and yeah it would suck

[dry moon]

Idk what you are arguing, its getting there in age, its definitely weak and you do need to make trade offs or work smart in terms of how to deliver the same visuals/least amount of compromises for your title

[dark depot]

same on pc

[dry moon]

If that is something too cerebral for you, idk man

[dark depot]

look at current avg gaming pc its under the xbox/ps specs haah

so in reality pc is weak if you want to get down to it

[abstract relic]

Everyone needs a good vent. We’ve all been there

[dark depot]

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey looks like avg has gone up this year a bit but 30% of people still have only dual core cpus @dry moon

[dry moon]

30% is not really average

and doesn't really tell you the amount of cores

I get numbers like

Number of Physical CPUs: 4

at 3GHz-3.5GHz

Which is fare, not really complaining about the CPU of the Xbox

but the GPU is well below

average is like a 1060

The Xbox One GPU clocks at like a lower of a 1050

[dark depot]

they mean cores by that

that isnt avg that is highest %

[dry moon]

I know

[dark depot]

more people have a 750 then something high end

[dry moon]

and going by average yes 4 cores, not dual core

[velvet finch]

is there a way to display the poly count

at run time?

[dry moon]

use the console command

stat engine

it'll be in the second box

[velvet finch]

alrighty thx Hodd!

[dry moon]

no problem!

[velvet finch]

nice so far i'm safely under 100k as expected haha

[abstract relic]

Add a couple 0s in there

[velvet finch]

haha

[languid shard]

100k aint that much :p

[velvet finch]

next time maybe if all goes well

i'm sure it would be higher next time haha

so far no chars, no enemies, no particle effects

no decals either

[velvet finch]

oh snap

i didn't take vertex painting into consideration rip

gotta retopo my stuff for today haha

[next badger]

seems i've missed a lot of blueprints from the hell

[shell jetty]

HELL is frozen

[next badger]

it maybe cause WeatherMain consumed all the processing power

[split wedge]

hello how would one go about tapering an hollow cylinder to make it slant inwards

[whole quarry]

what is 'slant'?

[split wedge]

im trying to make a lighthouse with bsp

[whole quarry]

so you want to model a lighthouse?

iirc, you can selected faces with bsp and modify them

[split wedge]

is that in geometry editing section?

[whole quarry]

I think so

[split wedge]

cool thanks i'll play around with it for a little

[placid arrow]

hi, if i save a game in ue4, and the class type i save has say, 4 variables in it named A, B, C and D, then i amend my class later to add a new variable E, and attempt to reload the old save, what happens?
does the save game get loaded with all the data put into variables A-D, and then E gets the class default? or does the savegame file fail to load?

im assuming its serialised in a flexible way that permits addition of new fields on the fly, and that the first option is more likely.

[whole quarry]

If you add later a new variable, it will have a default value

when you, after adding it, call it, it will have that default value

[languid sandal]

What’s up guys 😛

I had a question. Let’s say if someone was making an MMO, would the server be ran through the pc? Or would it run through a third party project?

[static viper]

lets not say that.

noone is making an mmo.

[languid sandal]

Well I’m just curious 😛 haha for example to have 100 players on a map

[static viper]

at least not without a large team

[languid sandal]

What would you need to run that?

[static viper]

a proper setup server with alot nice hardware.

and a dedicated server exe for your game

[languid sandal]

Ohhh ok. So it would have to run through your personal PC server right ?

[static viper]

you can rent servers

[languid sandal]

True. That’s interesting, thanks for the insight @static viper

How are your projects going? No MMOs in your future 😉 haha jking

[static viper]

i dont think anyone here has the audacity to invest into a mmo...

usually they stay quiet bc they have a huge ass team to talk to instead...

you know?

that kinda shows who knows business and who not.

[unreal spoke]

How to interactively(when I press a key) use an specific camera? I'm trying to get all actors of class camera and disabling the camera components but ti doesn't work because I have actors that are not cameras that actually have cameras...

[opal spindle]

Set view target

Target is the actor which has the camera

[unreal spoke]

@opal spindle Thanks. I don't know how I did forget that.

[opal spindle]

Np

[junior solstice]

Can i see a camera image on my gun actor surface ? ?

[static viper]

can you?

i dont understand what you mean

[junior solstice]

I want to this red surface castimg camera view

Can you understand ?

[static viper]

i love the drawing

but

i have no idea what it is showing

is that a gun?

with a flower pot

[junior solstice]

Yes is gun

Blue is camera

Cast to red surface camera

[static viper]

mh

so that surface is a monitor

[junior solstice]

Yes

[static viper]

and that camera is streaming its view to that monitor

[junior solstice]

Yes

Finly

[static viper]

google: 2drendercapture component

[teal tulip]

so thats an ak 47 with some in red thing and what the hell is that

oh the camera

[static viper]

took me long aswell

XD

[junior solstice]

Ty

[vivid jetty]

can i find unreal manequen for 3ds max file or fbx

[junior solstice]

Can you?

[vivid jetty]

@junior solstice can i?

[static viper]

what did i just experience

have you googled it yet?

[vivid jetty]

ı dont understand can i or can not and how

[static viper]

you can google it

[vivid jetty]

@static viper ok thanks for all helpings

[static viper]

yes!

[unreal spoke]

I'm changing the camera from the thirpersoncharacter to an actor but when I try to go back to the Tpc camera it goes to the default belly camera instead of the actual camera. Solutions?

[primal prairie]

I feel like im missing something super simple here..

I have 2 values i want to check their similarity with a sort of bias, how could i achieve that?

[abstract relic]

@unreal spoke set view target for your camera

[unreal spoke]

@abstract relic that's what I do. Set view target with blend to the thirdpersoncharacter actor but it goes to the belly instead of the other camera.

[ancient orbit]

Hey, I am stuck somewhere in UE4. Anyone here to help😕

[cloud cobalt]

Ask your questions

[ancient orbit]

Everytime i am running my code in visual studio, It is opening a new window of unreal engine but i have already opened it.

[wary wave]

if you want to debug Unreal, you want to run it through visual studio

[digital ledge]

Hey guys, I am currently in the process of making an exploration game and I would like to know if there are any websites that offer Unreal Tutorials? I know the Unreal community has some, but I am wondering if there are others out there.

[wary wave]

loads, but they'll be odd bits and pieces scattered here and there

best bet is to look for specific things, as an when you need them

[unreal spoke]

Do components not have construction script?

[wary wave]

no

[unreal spoke]

@wary wave Thanks 😦