okay I'm sorry I really have to post this here
#ue4-general
worn granite
nice
bitter iris
could anyone help me with this
wary wave
...does Substance support Linux?
analog blaze
Does Substance support Wear OS?
vagrant latch
any one here had some experience with collision issues in 4.19 ?
inland seal
@vagrant latch haven't used 4.19 yet but what's up
plush yew
hmmmmm...Should my game's Machine class be an Actor or just a regular UObject?
worn granite
if you want any machine subclass to be an actor, you've got to make the machine an actor
plush yew
what I mean is, should any machine even be an actor
is there any notable functionality I would need from an actor for this
worn granite
singleplayer, mostly/entirely UI game?
plush yew
Online multiplayer is planned.
plush yew
but, yeah, entirely UI-based
worn granite
If you want to use UE4 networking, you'll want actors.
But if you're going to be doing something like ssh you can probably roll that yourself
worn granite
Basically, actors can have net owners and channels. Its also easy enough to sync which actor you're referencing. Objects get none of that, IIRC.
plush yew
I'm just thinking that, actors have things like the Tick and BeginPlay events. Which may be useful for government alert, loading the save file for the player, etc.
worn granite
Aye
wary wave
If you want to make a multiplayer game, it really wants to be made that way from day one
worn granite
And I also agree with ambershee.
especially if you have to restructure the entire thing (eg: moving to actors)
plush yew
Good point.
wary wave
Yup, the potential workload is enormous
And there's huge scope for introducing new issues in the process
vagrant latch
@inland seal thanks for the response, collision import issues. I just posted a thread I will link it. - https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/819173/collision-import-issues-419.html
plush yew
And Machine Services should be actor components I presume?
vagrant latch
basically i can't get custom collision meshes to import properly.
worn granite
@plush yew Aye, that could work
fierce tulip
about time unreal livestreams are recorded in 4k :p
bitter iris
does anyone know how to update toolchain version with visual studio?
stoic dew
How do I go about getting a child of an actor?
timid flame
Anyone know a thing about Epic support/getting a real email? I have a problem with logging in due to no password reset email, and their contact form just sends an automated message
stoic dew
plush yew
okay I am now frustrated as hell.
timid flame
Child of an actor? @stoic dew
plush yew
I've got a c++ actor, and, I have my .generated.h include exactly where it should be
but I keep getting an "expected include at the top of header file: VirtualMachine.generated.h"
while I'm literally staring at that exact include
stoic dew
@timid flame I am not sure what they are called in unreal engine but I clicked and draged one object into another and now its attached. as you can see in my last screenshot i sent just after your message. Now I want to make them visible/invisable in this chunk of code
void AInvaderzPawn::ThrustInput(float Val)
{
// Is there any input?
bool bHasInput = !FMath::IsNearlyEqual(Val, 0.f);
// If input is not held down, reduce speed
float CurrentAcc = bHasInput ? (Val * Acceleration) : (-0.5f * Acceleration);
// Calculate new speed
float NewForwardSpeed = CurrentForwardSpeed + (GetWorld()->GetDeltaSeconds() * CurrentAcc);
// Clamp between MinSpeed and MaxSpeed
CurrentForwardSpeed = FMath::Clamp(NewForwardSpeed, MinSpeed, MaxSpeed);
}
How do I get a reference to the thurster particle in order to do this?
balmy cypress
@plush yew is it the very first include? If so then you may simply need to regenerate solution files by right clicking the .uproject file (if on windows) and selecting generate solution files
timid flame
@stoic dew I rarely if ever have attached actors as children via world outliner. Typically I would just contain the particle components within the primary actor itself, or attach it as a variable reference. There's probably still a way to get that though
You could also add child actor components from your primary actor
stoic dew
Hmm alright, I will move it as a child component nowwasn't aware this wasn't a common practice
So from there I would just use uproperty to grab a reference of the child component?
timid flame
Yea so in your flying pawn you can either add a particle component directly/set its transforms etc. Same goes for if you encapsulated a bunch of particle components in their own actor, in which case you'd add the child actor
The simplest would probably just be adding the emitter in the flying pawn itself, unless you need things encapsulated differently
stoic dew
Alright I appreciate the help! Thanks.
plush yew
@balmy cypress ...that...didn't work at all.
balmy cypress
@normal pollen hey, who is this imposter? They didn't even have the decency to use only lowercase characters as per my trait
plush yew
regenerating the VS project did nothing but crash Visual Studio when it tried to reload
balmy cypress
that's fine, when you re-open it it should all be generated
did you try compiling it after it crashed?
plush yew
yeah, I know. but it didn't fix the issue.
balmy cypress
I have had this a few times, and what i did was delete my intermediate directory (it will get recreated) and then regenerate, then compile. If you want to avoid the crash you can have visual studios closed, it does not need to be open
inland seal
@vagrant latch give me a bit. Looking
worn granite
@plush yew can you share the top of the header, including that include statement?
plush yew
hang on
busy figuring out why I can't regenerate the project by right-clicking the .uproject in File Explorer.
balmy cypress
didn't you do it just a moment ago?
plush yew
I don't think UE4 ever got a chance to associate .uproject files with itself
balmy cypress
oh
plush yew
I did it within the editor.
but like
if I nuke the intermediate folder, it likely won't open in the editor.
balmy cypress
associate the extension then, you can do it by right clicking, open with, navigating to the UnrealEngine (don't do the launcher by mistake) and then have it save the preference
time to do some streaming!
bitter iris
can anyone help me with toolchain visual studio
plush yew
ugh deleting intermediate and regenerating vs didn't work
what the hell is UE4 smoking? I want some of it.
:P// Copyright (c) 2018 The Peacenet & Alkaline Thunder.
#pragma once
#include "CoreMinimal.h"
#include "GameFramework/Actor.h"
#include "VirtualMachine.generated.h"
UCLASS()
class PROJECTOGLOWIA_API AVirtualMachine : public AActor
{
GENERATED_BODY()
//...
};
manic pawn
if you're missing the regenerate shortcut for some reason, go to the engine folder and run the binaries/win64/unrealversionselector thing
timid flame
Anyone know of an issue with being unable to reset their account password? Haven't gotten any emails for the reset after multiple attempts
plush yew
@manic pawn I fixed that issue
my issue now is UE4 wants that VirtualMachine.generated.h include exactly where it is right now.
It's just not finding it.
manic pawn
what error do you get
plush yew
Expected an include at the top of the header: '#include "VirtualMachine.generated.h"'
?
manic pawn
worn granite
rip
plush yew
if that caused it, I'm going to scream.
worn granite
yeah if headers have nonsensical errors, quadrouple check that entire section
manic pawn
it probably confused uht lol
plush yew
Clearly lol.
bitter iris
Cannot use an old toolchain (missing ToolchainVersion.txt file, assuming version earlier than v11) SurvivorX E:\PatientX\PXEditor 4.19 - 2 4.20\Intermediate\ProjectFiles\UnrealBuildTool
Anyone help with this ?
worn granite
in 4.21 they should add error: Unexepected emoticon at start of file. This isn't IRC
I know how it got there, though.
frosty bloom
That error reminds me of when I had a mouse with buttons on the side of it. Good times.
worn granite
You were talking to somebody either on discord or whatever, and literally anything caused VS to get focus. Either loading the sln, or a process within VS finishing.
You quickly switched focus back to continue your convo, then proceeded to do whatever you were waiting on VS before doing.
plush yew
I blame YOU, Unreal Build Tool.
worn granite
A tale as old as time.
I've had VS fail to open its search dialog in time to catch my search query completely, placing the first part IN THE ENGINE FILE I WAS SEACHING
MICROSOOOOOOOOOOOOOFT
plush yew
well now I'm happy again, can start reworking my game's npc system now. :D
stoic dew
What function hides visibility of an actor?
fierce tulip
BisPeekaboo
manic pawn
setting all the engine source files as read only prevented at least 3 accidental rebuilds so far
bitter iris
Can i delete intermediate folder without problems?
manic pawn
yes
bitter iris
okay cool hopefully this will fix the stupid error
I just keep getting old toolchain
so annoying man
has anyone experienced that?
stoic dew
Is there like a button to mute/unmute sound in ue4. I just randomly lost sound in the game when I pressed something and I can't figure out how to fix it xd
nvm fixed that but the editor crashed during a hot reload and now my project wont load 😦
pallid compass
pro tip, dont hot reload unless ur brave af
or unless u understand how hot reload works
stoic dew
Its enabled on its own
pallid compass
well what i mean is
stoic dew
i just hit build the little thing came up and said it was compiling the game mode on the editor window
pallid compass
dont recomile code with editor open
pallid compass
i pray for u
pallid compass
u got git build? or launcher build
stoic dew
launcher
pallid compass
dam im no good with launcher shit
stoic dew
4.20.1
pallid compass
oh well
4.20.1
never use latest ver for that reason
try deleting everything but
Source, Plugins, Content
stoic dew
I have no plugins folder is that a problem maybe?
pallid compass
nope was just being safe
after that
right click uproject
Generate visual studio files
If u have some bad code in source
it will fail to generate
which means u need to open up ur sln
stoic dew
generate visual studio files?
pallid compass
and find out what bad code u have
stoic dew
how do I do that?
pallid compass
stoic dew
Should I delete the sln first?
stoic dew
not seeing anything in the log that seems alarming
oh i found the problem I think
LeftThruster = CreateDefaultSubobject<UParticleSystemComponent>(TEXT("ThrusterFxLeft"));
RightThruster = CreateDefaultSubobject<UParticleSystemComponent>(TEXT("ThrusterFxLeft"));
interesting that something like that
could cause a crash
plush yew
Just for reference, because this is the next thing I want to implement after I get core gameplay in my game, how would you guys recommend implementing a data-driven mission system?
Ideally one where the only programming/BP required is to actually write the backend, the data types, and the different types of objectives.
plush yew
Okay...I think my stomach just got tied in a knot.......
Please tell me the Asset Registry isn't an editor-only thing and that it will work in a packaged game...
worn granite
Seems to not be editor only
inland seal
What did I miss? Who has question?
@plush yew it's hard to explain but I'd rely on enums and switches have mission types maybe set as functions and having variable for the different types of thongs: mission giver, type, tasks, etc
I have tables and arrays within tables and arrays haha
I can show you later
plush yew
oh come on unreal engine. now I've got a missing public: in one of my classes apparently, and I can't find it.
winged crypt
What channel should I post in regarding AA?
plush yew
alcoholics anonymous
cerulean perch
anti aircraft?
plush yew
AA batteries?
stoic dew
Are the sample projects in unreal multiplayer by default or something? I see things in the world outliner like NetworkPlayerStart and stuff.
plush yew
@stoic dew the player starts are always the same object type, just placed in the world. they may have custom naming but they are the same objects
yo red 😛
high stone
Still rendering. I need one of those new Nvidia GPUs. Anyone have a spare $10k?
high stone
Yeah.
stoic dew
So is that a no then?
It seems like its here i just am not sure how i'd even check if it is
plush yew
this is the one i have now i go by price performance
but i can understand need for a good GPU in ur case
high stone
I'm eager to see if the GTX 1160 is versus the 1060.
plush yew
i have a 1060 but i was thinking of getting a 1080 actually
maybe like a few years lol
somehow i always put off my gpu upgrades a lot
high stone
I can get 1080's easily.
plush yew
what i currently want to get - 1950x / x399 board
you are doing ue imports still right? or you said you were waiting on a project
@stoic dew do you mean for the first person project and those example ones?
sudden flax
Anyone in here good at making somewhat complex AI? If so please DM me! Thanks alot!
stoic dew
@plush yew I am using the flying one but yes
I found some setting in the editor somewhere that let me add another player
and when I press play in the editor
two of the space ships spawn
plush yew
stoic dew
but idk if this is like multiplayer as in two player on a single device
plush yew
yes that's the assigned name, object is still default
well
to change that set 1 player
in PIE dropdown
stoic dew
alright
stoic dew
So if I put 2 there and it spawns two ships when I press play
dos that mean it will work with mp?
Im not trying to make mp work I just want to make sure i am not wasting any resources on it
plush yew
that's for testing replication locally before you expand out to standalone and eventually package your game.
i use 2 player PIE all the time to test my game. it's really useful
stoic dew
what does pie stand for?
plush yew
play in editor
sudden flax
Is it possible to take a project with me to places? Like say I have it on my c drive now, but I wanna put it on an external ssd, if it is possible, would I have to copy all the assets over, like the sounds and models and that? Or are they kept within the project cached?
high stone
Once it's compiled. There should be a finished version you can take on the go.
sudden flax
I'm talking about working on, say on college pcs and my laptop
Like the actual full on project
sudden flax
Hm? What does that do?
stoic dew
you'd have to look that up. but for the most part it hosts the project files in one place in the cloud so you can work on it from multiple places, detecting changes made and uploading only files that have been changed
there is a button at the top of the editor "source control"
i am sure that will help you get started
or if not there is prolly a tutorial on setting it up with unreal at the very least
high stone
Github is free.
sudden flax
Ik that lol, but I meant cloud server rental, or vps rental to host the files
high stone
I think that's free, but you lose privacy.
high stone
If you know your way around coding you could encrypt it.
sudden flax
I'm code-illiterate lol
high stone
Smart FTP should still be available.
stoic dew
id just use bit bucket
its free and private
github charges in order to make your files private
sudden flax
Okay, but say if I put the project on say Phsyical storage, the models and assets I've put in, are they saved and cached in the project, or does it still use the original destination (my desktop) to get the assets
stoic dew
I have not used unreal with source control yet
but considering it seems to be integrated directly in
Im guessing it will be alright
There is prolly certain workflows you have to follow but
this is how studios keep everyone on the same page when they have 100s of people working on a project so it would be pretty important for what you mentioned to work
sudden flax
Yes but that still isn't answering the question of, do I need to take my assets with me, or does UE4 cache them
bitter iris
anyone good with visual studio?
stoic dew
Id still strongly suggest using something like github/bitbucket instead of doing all that work manually. It pretty much does exactly what you want + gives you cloud backup and tools so you can merge two different versions together incase things go wrong.
vivid girder
Is there a way to call the super custom event function in a blueprint child
Like in Tick, construct, etc
stoic dew
Error: Currently, only 16 bit WAV files are supported- how do I fix this error?
stoic dew
it is a wav file
vivid girder
Is it 24-bit wav?
inland seal
So much I missed
plush yew
@stoic dew hey man you'll wanna convert your samples down to 16bit using an audio converter, here's one i found after a google search https://www.mediahuman.com/audio-converter/ convert with those settings and you should be fine
stoic dew
@plush yew thank you for the link, i will try that now
elfin plaza
How to remove a post from LFW channel
grim sinew
The pinned messages tells you
In that channel
Oh you mean remove it.
Well, just ignore it and it'll go up past where anyone looks soon enough 😛
bleak widget
hi everybody! i have problem with loading level. My personage loading faster then landscape collision and going down. How i can to set loading sequence ?
leaden dust
How do I make a variable which retains its value to the next level
plush yew
game instance @leaden dust
leaden dust
I need some more help lol
I am making a 3d side scroller character with left and right movement
with a and d
but the spring arm is rotating around when my character turns
I got it
thx anyways
stoic dew
How performant is the projectile movement component?
Can I have say anywhere between 10,000-100,000 in a level at any given time or should I plan for a different solution?
hot drum
Can somebody please help me? I placed a cube as a click hit box for a cabinet thing
Once you click it your player is supposed to zoom into it and be able to interact
my problem here is that the hitbox only works until I move
(at playtime)
Plz
grim sinew
@stoic dew Also the answer is no.
hot drum
; (
stoic dew
Whats the realistic amount I can have before they will become a problem?
grim sinew
Maybe 1/100th of that
They're physics objects, and it's single threaded. RIP your CPU.
stoic dew
Is there anything built in I can use that isn't so resource heavy?
stoic dew
@limpid star I have a space scene that has tons of random astroids floating around i was suggested in this channel to use projectile movement component so I can have them floating around through space
grim sinew
There is absolutely nothing you can do to get that many projectiles without fundamentally changing how the engine works.
stoic dew
Maybe so
grim sinew
For 10,000+ objects, I'm not sure there's anything you can do at ALL for that
Transforming that many objects on tick is insanity
It would never run
stoic dew
Yeah i would have to update them in batch
each one couldn't have its own ontick method
I have no idea
grim sinew
I'm going to go give him the realistic answer - give up and do something that won't be a colossal waste of time.
There is no way to make that work
Keep them stationary
Even the spinning ones I guarantee were distance based and only spinning when you were close by
stoic dew
Yeah no problem xd
static viper
you arent lookin deep enough
stoic dew
Just didn't think it would be a problem in ue4
grim sinew
It's not an engine problem, it's a hardware problem. CPU single thread performance has not gotten good enough to do that.
hot drum
I have NO clue why
static viper
you can have 10000 asteriods
grim sinew
There is no game engine on earth that could do what you ask at a good framerate
stoic dew
@grim sinew have you not saw the unity demo with 100k animated soliders fighting in reltime?
static viper
you wouldnt have physics on in that distance true
stoic dew
I think entt would be a good start
static viper
but you could generate them via instance mesh
and LOD is a big thing here
i am very crazy
but i totally think its possible 😄
just maybe not super advanced
you cant have 100k asteriods with physics in 60 fps
grim sinew
@stoic dew Yes, and that has nothing to do with this particular question. You're free to ignore me and try anyway, it's your life you're wasting.
stoic dew
I think I can very well move 100k objects
static viper
they spawn lots of blocks
grim sinew
Even if you had 100k asteroids, you would hit 2 million polygons on those asteroids if those were only 20 polygons each
Instancing is not magic, it won't 100% save you
plush yew
just keyframe the asteroids spinning slightly, duplicate the meshes in a 3rd party tool of some sort like 3ds max or blender, and have one big ring, rotate the ring slightly or something. using physics for all objects is not practical.
grim sinew
Let's be realistic. 200 polygons, minimum, per asteroid. There you go, 20 million polys for asteroids alone, you've hit modern GPU polygon limits. Even if we say that somehow you avoid drawcalls being an issue, it'll never work.
static viper
the asteriods from really far away could be triangles
plush yew
you could probably have low poly asteroids if there are 10,000 of them..
static viper
with a picture on it
plush yew
remember to use textures in a power of 2 though so mips transfer over
no one here is a "wanker"
static viper
wankers?
plush yew
just trying to learn and help each other out
static viper
i am not giving him hope
its a massive task
takes weeks or months
and you would need special tech
still doesnt mean its impossible XD
like some plugin that is designed for asteriods
a chunk system inbuilt
grim sinew
Not even Star Citizen, a game with $180 million in funding, has that many asteroids on screen at once in an asteroid belt.
static viper
with lods
grim sinew
@limpid star Oh I've given up, we've got outnumbered by people that won't listen to reason
We can't convince them, they just need to learn the hard way and waste some time. No big deal.
plush yew
look at Stranger's game.. he does a lot of asteroid fields
grim sinew
We have been drowned out by people with incomplete information filling in each others' gaps incorrectly. Just let them try and fail on their own, sometimes that's the only option.
plush yew
you can probably just put the entire asteroid belt on a plane texture TBH
if its far
enough away
static viper
100K projectiles???
grim sinew
Yeah that was his idea, he wanted to have each asteroid using projectile physics
The original idea.
static viper
that is mad
stoic dew
I didn't want to
plush yew
and i recommended against projectiles or physics set for each one because it's too costly
stoic dew
I was suggested
grim sinew
@limpid star Just back off and let them figure it out, it's not worth the fight.
Sometimes you need a hands off approach. Let them burn their hand on the stove and learn the hard way ;P
plush yew
he can try to dup the asteroids a few times and test out the utilization using profiling if he wants to.
static viper
youre telling people to not try XD in a matter in which experimenting is stated as a bad thing
let him try
he will learn new awesome stuff
grim sinew
I generally respect people's time enough to suggest they don't utterly waste it, but that's clearly not a shared sentiment here
If you think you can do it @stoic dew go for it. You'll learn very quickly where game engines struggle.
static viper
youre laying words in owls mouth XD
grim sinew
And with that, I am leaving this particular discussion. Good luck to you.
I am clearly not needed here
plush yew
like i said, either try to either get a texture of the asteroids on a plane if it's far, if it's kind of close by, use LODs and try to make sure your textures are set properly and have several instances of the asteroid placed in the level to make your belt.
plush yew
🦉
static viper
like the little girl that got lost in the forest
stoic dew
I don't think I have ever used a game engine that struggles moving stuff. But alright Zero thank you for your perspective at least.
static viper
abd got her eyes eaten out bc owl thinks she is crazy for asking for the way...
plush yew
@stoic dew you know what you could do as a nice trade off?
stoic dew
Hmm?
plush yew
just dup the mesh a ton of times in 3ds max or blender
make sure your initial mesh is relatively low poly like ZN said, said 100-200 polys
have some kind of a system where you dup them in an array, so it makes the dup process quicker
array of 360 degrees, just keep adding more
add all of the meshes to a single object
and then import as ONE FBX into ue
them what you can do is keyframe a global rotation of the entire mesh object in UE
very slow rotation
of the entire chunk of data
so it gives it some movement
this way, rotation is not being applied locally to all meshes, but globally to the entire thing.
then finally, add in your planet to center and texture with a nice planet material or something, there's marketplace assets for planet textures.
maybe make the belt a child of the planet, and add yet another slight rotation to the planet, very subtle rotation.
so there is some movement to it
this way you are reducing cpu util
and still having a good final import
can be less if its far or medium range.
stoic dew
Yeah that doesn't sound like a bad idea tbh
plush yew
if you add some nice normal or texture map you can make the poly count less Narcotic
stoic dew
Does ue4 not do frustrum culling smurfies?
I dont see how the number of polies spread through a scene matter when not all of them will be on screen at once
Ah fair enough
stoic dew
I mean I duped 3500 in editor
static viper
he could do 500
plush yew
yep thats' why i said consider adding the textures for the asteroids onto a large plane image that you rotate. you can fake some of them and keep the rest in view.
stoic dew
doesn't rendering hapepn on a different thread than code?
I dont see how me adding gameplay code is going to slow things down any
stoic dew
yeah xd
how does gameplay correlate to rendering?
is it not done on a seperate thread?
leaden dust
if its instanced stationary then he could have it much higher
the problem is translatioln
trim granite
Hi, can someone tell me how to delete stuff in the UE world outliner?
stoic dew
highlight it
leaden dust
@trim granite select stuff and press delete
stoic dew
press delete
trim granite
hehe, if it where only that easy.
grim sinew
It is.
stoic dew
do you mean via code or blueprints rather?
trim granite
it just keeps comming back when i go in and out of simulation mode.
leaden dust
@grim sinew How do you punctuate your sentences so well everytime
stoic dew
save
static viper
ah
grim sinew
@leaden dust My keyboard isn't broken?
trim granite
even after pressing ''keep changes''.
leaden dust
@grim sinew I got a 2$ keyboard and it ain't broken 2
grim sinew
@trim granite When you sim the game, extra code actors spawn in in order to make the game actually work.
leaden dust
But I can't punctuate that well.
grim sinew
@trim granite And anything you change during simulation does NOT persist when you stop simulating.
It's all temporary.
trim granite
hmm
grim sinew
"So why do you need this grant?" "Therapy."
grim sinew
I try not to insult people unless they -really- test my patience. And even then I just start messing with them the majority of the time instead of insulting them. "My editor crashed" "Well clearly it's time to burn the computer down"
trim granite
yeah, if there is one thing i've learned is to not underestimate people.
plush yew
yep
trim granite
I am a noob in UE, i admit that, but i have otehr skills.
stoic dew
Gonna agree with gothic here smurfies i stopped really taking your opinion serious when you started calling people wankers.
plush yew
jbk if you keep working at it you could be better at UE for sure. i'm still learning myself.
well insulting people is against the #old-rules
so not really
grim sinew
There are some people that are just aggressively stupid however. Like, you'll tell them how to fix their problem every single week, for a month, and a month later when you ask if they actually tried what you suggest they just say "Eh, didn't feel like it".
stoic dew
rofl
grim sinew
That's the best way I have to really put it, they're just aggressively stupid at that point. It's self sabotage.
trim granite
Yes, but you can't expect everyone to be like that.
I do take any advice i can get.
plush yew
i do get insulted by that garbage
and others do too
i don't like being disrespected
all in this together
after all
grim sinew
And, to be honest, if you're on here helping a ton of people, day in and day out, it wears on you. It really does. Sometimes people are just on a short fuse because of it, having good intentions going in but not having the willpower anymore to deal with a confrontation.
trim granite
then why don't you let someone else take over?
plush yew
yep i come to help when i can, learned some good stuff on here
grim sinew
It can be a lot of things, so I try not to judge people on a handful of encounters. You never know what's going on in their lives or what else they've been doing that day.
static viper
i know you dont like me XD
grim sinew
Unless it's Karol, in which case you know everything he does because he treats the lounge as his diary.
static viper
but dont let that blur your mind so much that you think experimenting is bad
trim granite
hehe, i don't know.
plush yew
there's tons of different approaches to doing this, and honestly my suggestion of grouping into one large object is fine for testing.
he can lower the count to something less in the final object if its gets cpu heavy
grim sinew
I've been using Unreal for 10 years, I don't think experimenting is bad I'm just jaded. I've seen a ton of times what works and what doesn't and sometimes, you just know going in when something won't work.
grim sinew
Not assuming. Experience.
static viper
experience with the new guy?
grim sinew
There's a difference between assumptions, which is a blind guess, and experience.
plush yew
i told him to dup the meshes in 3ds max or blender several times , not use projectiles or rotate them locally.
and you called me a name
grim sinew
It's also why at a certain point I just stop arguing. Experience is the best teacher, some people you need to allow to fail.
plush yew
so learn to treat people with respect
grim sinew
I didn't call you anything?
static viper
maybe we should chill now XD the asteriod belt clearly got out of hand
grim sinew
@plush yew Just to clarify, did I call you something? Not sure who you meant when you said it wasn't about someone.
grim sinew
lmao
static viper
isnt god damnit more like a... err... expression of personal feels?
like darth vader when he realized his wife ded
NOOOOO
grim sinew
When I say it, it's just me shouting into the void to vent without directing it at someone, and to communicate I'm getting frustrated 😛
stoic dew
ye
static viper
ahoi
stoic dew
same
static viper
⛵
grim sinew
https://api.unrealengine.com/udk/Three/VideoTutorials.html#3D Buzz Video Tutorials - Using UDK When I learned Unreal, this was all there was. I wish I could have had someone to yell at me when I was doing something silly.
plush yew
i might deal with something similar myself.. im going to do an open space environment soon and might need to do a belt. not 100k type belt but a belt. lol
lol nice guide
and @limpid star i didnt mean to get agitated earlier, sorry if i was getting upset there
static viper
so back to gravity gun...
grim sinew
See? Hugs all around, this is so much better.
plush yew
i just am very careful about personal treatment about things
I was blindly hopeful for a long time actually. learned a lot. some of it wasted time though.
grim sinew
People learn fast when people are honest. I've seen people make incredible improvement in a short amount of time because of honesty
stoic dew
So quick question lets say I create a class that inherits from AActor, do I really have to delete and regenerate my project files in order to get the .generated.h file?
grim sinew
This was the first sculpture that guy ever did. He only was able to do that because people were honest, from the get go, brutally so, about every mistake he was making.
plush yew
ahh
google is my guide
i never liked my teachers
they were teaching me useless fluff in school, and most of that i forgot regardless wasting solid part of my life on it.
grim sinew
And because, you know, he put like 160+ hours into it.
plush yew
i learn way differently
than I did in schools
google and internet remade the learning process
yeah but you dont learn googling in school
at least when i was in school, we never did it
very barely we did
and polish internet wasnt that fulll of info back then
plush yew
haha
my bad
i had
google helps me tons in IT or in my own projects (web dev, game dev, other stuff)
but barely helped me in school
maybe
but i will let my son choose if he wants school or not
after primary school of course
wtf is grade 12
XD
do you mean 12th year
in school
stoic dew
yeah
stoic dew
like when hes 12?
stoic dew
yikes
stoic dew
He is going to chose to not go
plush yew
yea but i regret going
stoic dew
and then we have another degenerate in the world
plush yew
it didnt make me smarter
stoic dew
school teaches you more than what you learn
it teaches you work ethic
and responibility
plush yew
i liked highschool but i didn't really like college that much
i liked highscool, was nice
its useless work
learning pointless fluff
that you wont use in real life
but maybe US schools are better
than polish
so idk
stoic dew
something polish people something lightbulb?
plush yew
yeah kick them out
so u dont have to worry
about them
i dont have kids
when theyre in school
i think private schools can be better
so you have kids then i suppose
i dont. all i do is my gamedev.
gothic
what
how long in gamedev br0
10months, 7 years in animation mocap before that. 3dsmax motionbuilder etc.
photoshop zbrush stuff
oh so you like
modelling
im creating game too in ue you know
cool
im few months in ue
plush yew
dont
plush yew
smurfies
do you still do games without marketing
yep i agree with your earlier conversation about how if the quality of the material is high enough you can sell it despite marketing Smurfies
comes from hard work
did you ever make a succesful title without team?
oh
okay
stoic dew
I disagree with that gothic
stoic dew
There is so much shovelware being pushed on every market no one will find your game if you don't advertise it
abstract marsh
^
plush yew
yep it was a conversation he had earlier some time ago
exactly
narcotic
smurfies
marketing is very complex thing
yep if the game is not fun it wont be played
you can get results for free
or pay 10000 usd and not get them
abstract marsh
I've worked for a few companies and done marketing campaigns for Microsoft - trust me, the data doesn't lie - marketing is extremely important and it just matters how you do it.
plush yew
nice
abstract marsh
Games with publishers do much better because marketing in general.
stoic dew
The greenlight program being dropped made the whole im not gonna market my game obsolete
stoic dew
and the app store had been that way for some time
abstract marsh
emarketing eh?
abstract marsh
🤷
plush yew
but im not that perfect at it
stoic dew
You can do it yourself for free as well
abstract marsh
You'll need a smart marketing strategy then.
abstract marsh
There's no one way to market.
plush yew
wonder what name
abstract marsh
abstract marsh
😃
I came here to ask if you guys have seen any unreal games in toons tyle lately.
I would like to see your data and sources sir
toon style*
stoic dew
fortnite xd
static viper
cel shading*
abstract marsh
Fortnite has people playing it on twitch which is free marketing.
static viper
i dont think i seen alot
abstract marsh
Not all games need toon style.
static viper
yee zelda
abstract marsh
Need cel shading to be toon*
abstract marsh
How do we know it's UE4?
static viper
because they said it in the presentation XD
static viper
probably an own branch then
its a switch game after all
they dont present it as ue4 game big
abstract marsh
I don't see them saying it was UE4.
abstract marsh
Some folks thought Nintendo used Unreal for the new smash bros.
But that's not correct.
The unreal logo was in the direct because of fortnite.
So people misinterpreted that.
static viper
what is the point
bitter iris
If anyones good with visual studio, can you check #engine-source thanks
abstract marsh
They claimed it was made in unreal.
That's hilarious.
Writer didn't do their research.
We'd see if Zelda was made with Unreal in the Epic Games license agreement, which we do not, so I conclude it wasn't made in unreal. I hope to be corrected if wrong.
plush yew
how are you all guys feeling right now
abstract marsh
I still want to see some toon styled games..
static viper
have you looked at bendy
abstract marsh
@limpid star I am, that is why I am looking at other games in unreal that are toon.
static viper
if you really want to
then you should think about a plan
like what will be important on screen
what colors
and how do things move
the light
plush yew
guys
plush yew
if I have word "Sex" in title of game, but theres no sex or nudity in my game, can this title be played by 10 year old?
static viper
studio ghibli
static viper
go away
static viper
thats like selling skittles but its smarties.
plush yew
if you didnt knew it, sex sells, even if its not porn/sex/nudity industry
people put beautiful women in unrelated ads
because of it
static viper
if you didnt knew it... your fame isnt going to rise with that XD
plush yew
why not
static viper
everyone will straight out know that you are a cheap grab
that kind of marketing is for cowboys...
plush yew
okay, i convinced myself this is good idea to do
static viper
and were all out of cowboys.
plush yew
thanks
static viper
why you here in the first place XD
plush yew
also there are games like blade and soul and other that are basically MMORPGs
but devs put big boobs and stuff there to attract male players
same with anime
static viper
they do... and pay for it dearly.
static viper
Ok you got me
you can always convince a male person to everything just by rubbing boobs in their face.
Its biological
plush yew
haha
abstract marsh
@static viper I literally did do those things.
If you saw our game you'd know instantly 😃
Here, have a look.
static viper
yes?
plush yew
have alook br0
abstract marsh
Promotional art and game art
plush yew
sexy
abstract marsh
The characters aren't meant to be naked, just body reference.
static viper
and that is... sexual?
abstract marsh
No..
grim sinew
That's not what naked looks like.
plush yew
he removed it
abstract marsh
Well, 'unclothed'
grim sinew
....you don't say
static viper
you can loose more clothes in zelda XD
abstract marsh
I didn't want to be bothersome with the images.
grim sinew
They're just wearing swimsuits, no big deal
abstract marsh
What did you think?
abstract marsh
Yeah haha
static viper
there was a boy too
abstract marsh
Man*
static viper
So no reason to rage.
grim sinew
.....you mean the response of everyone saying "She isn't naked, calm down?"
abstract marsh
He's beeg strong mon
plush yew
Yes
abstract marsh
It's the age we live in.
static viper
he looks very... boyish XD
abstract marsh
I did want feedback though ❤
grim sinew
Thing is, I know Love is being sarcastic, but Karol is being serious.
static viper
does he eat well?
plush yew
I am serious
abstract marsh
Karol..?
plush yew
Im the Karol
abstract marsh
I'm the love
grim sinew
Oh god they're multiplying
abstract marsh
Hey! I wanted feedback for that toon style though.
static viper
youre all just weird...
polar hawk
south abyss
Is anyone using Rama Save System? I'm trying to save component variables and the documentation isn't helping
static viper
it looks flat
abstract marsh
Oh, ignore the tree and rocks
static viper
and jittery
grim sinew
Are you not running at full resolution?
abstract marsh
They're assets from the store
plush yew
did you draw it in real life
abstract marsh
That's in editor.
abstract marsh
How about this?
Better? Ignore trees/rocks/grass
They're from the HW plains pack
plush yew
i like the stones a lot
static viper
and no depth
abstract marsh
They're from a MP pack called HW something
Grr they're blurry due to motion of the camera
static viper
why you keep moving when making shots?
abstract marsh
I made a video yesterday and then took a screen from it just now.
Let me take a screen from the game one sec...
What might you want to see?
static viper
tiddies ofc.
abstract marsh
I couldn't DM you.
Is this what you mean?
The edges are because it's using a shader that gives soft outlines based on the color of what it's outlining.
abstract marsh
Let me see some of your work?
abstract marsh
And the point is for the edges to be soft.
I kind of expected constructive criticism or something.
abstract marsh
@limpid star
static viper
you cant have it double
abstract marsh
What do you recommend?
plush yew
guys is it a problem if acronym for your game is taken and estabilished already?
for your game name
for example if GTA acronym was used
static viper
then you take another name 😄
plush yew
before they made that game
static viper
before you get sued
plush yew
its acronym dude
static viper
be carefull in the industry
people do turn shit all kinds of ways
always go for the safe route
abstract marsh
That's not called plagiarism.
abstract marsh
I'd look at similar cases if I were you @plush yew
Look at Mojang Scrolls getting sued by bethesda.
static viper
you guys are not gonna survive long XD
abstract marsh
Mojang's game was called 'Scrolls'
And The Elder Scrolls was 'too similar'.
Also, the game Prey requested "Prey for the Gods' to change its name.
It became 'Praey for the Gods'
Or whatever game it was.
abstract marsh
It's precedent.
The point isn't to prove anyone right it's to help the individual.
abstract marsh
I think citing past cases helps.
abstract marsh
Owl,
static viper
no indie ever will start out creating GTA game even if its completly different
abstract marsh
What do you think of this?
Also I think he means primarily the acronym and not the game GTA itself.
abstract marsh
Nani..?
static viper
i dont think so 😄
static viper
you take your outlines away and...
plush yew
are different things, not games
static viper
the same point stays
your colors are broken
also your depth and light
that way it looks just cheap.
abstract marsh
I definitely don't think so. The witness is a lot more realistic with different lighting. It's not at all a toon/anime game.
It's slightly stylized but it's like a midway between toon and realism.
It's just a different style altogether.
Ah wait it is kind of toon.
static viper
i think its a very sloppy style then. Very cheap because lack of details. I dont see a huge crowd
yes
thank god that i have no idea what i am talking about
abstract marsh
I'll be off now.
plush yew
its weird how some companies use acronyms without of And etc
but others put them
in acronym
example LoL
plush yew
i will keep it in title
i decided and have great catchy title @abstract marsh
i dont have game tho, nor abilities
thats the hard part
plush yew
i have buildings and stats done
but its replacement graphics anyway
i think the innitial gameplay is hardest and most important to do
after that just details
https://i.imgur.com/fHQ4pAZ.jpg -- possible to rotate it BUT all of its elements?
when i select all and rotate they rotate weirdly - not as a single structure, but all on their own
nvm ill just leave it as it is
leaden dust
@grim sinew this is a random comment but I feel you should be mod instead of these mostly inactive mods
grim sinew
D'aww ❤ Thanks 😃 The mods are usually super responsive to the moderators tag at least, usually a near instant response if something comes up
sudden flax
I'm having an issue, it says there isnt a program associated with my project
but i only made it yesterday
plush yew
Can anyone tell me what causes the actor getting pushed away like this? I googled and did the following, all which did not solve it:
- I added a second capsule to the character scaled it bigger than anything else and put it on Block All Dynamid.
- I changed CharacterMovementComponent -> Jump Off Z factor
- I changed CharacterMovementComponent -> Anything related to Push Force
The third person template actor does that less
mint raptor
@plush yew check step height on character movement component, try to lower it to 0 for starters and see if it still happens and what does the collision look like for the boat? Is it bigger that what is seen?
plush yew
@static viper Im pretty sure it's not caused by the weight
static viper
did try?
mint raptor
@plush yew if you want to be able to get on boat you can also have the static meshes can player step on disabled bit idk what your goal is.
plush yew
@mint raptor This is the collision shape
@static viper Yeah I increased the boat mass pretty much
mint raptor
@plush yew did you make those collisions in your modeling software?
static viper
checked if it is heigher then the players mass?
plush yew
@mint raptor I put the max step height on 0, he still gets pushed away
@mint raptor Yes in Blender
mint raptor
That may be your problem, lots of overlapping collisions
When you make your custom collisions don't have them overlap
In my experience that causes odd issues
plush yew
@static viper I couldnt check the player mass, it's not shown when I open the Blueprint and I spawn him with a PlayerStart so he is not listed in the Outliner.
static viper
its in the character movement
and that also states physics options
you can fix it there
plush yew
@mint raptor I have another one where I just used 1 collision shape but it does the same
@static viper Oh I found it, yeah the boat was definitely much more, player 100 boat 30000
static viper
then your physics are bogus XD
plush yew
@mint raptor with max step height on 0 he even gets shot off right when he contacts it, maybe increase it?
static viper
the player shouldnt even be able to move it
plush yew
I know, Im asking myself what causes the physics to act like this
I ate so much my belly is gonna explode
static viper
show how you set boat mass
mint raptor
@plush yew Imo it's the overlapping custom collisions. Try generating autoconvex and see if behavior changes