ue4-general

[cloud cobalt]

Uh, no

[wary wave]

that won't work

[latent moth]

hem

[cloud cobalt]

That would be the "looking like shit" part

[latent moth]

kinda joking 😄

[wary wave]

heh

[latent moth]

One quick question for you guys... i'd like for players not to be able to go in rivers. Currently, rivers are BP splines. Is there an easy way to block them from going there?

[wary wave]

actually yeah, include collision geometry on your spline

[latent moth]

they have it, but they can walk in them

[wary wave]

second mesh set, simple geo, different collision params

[latent moth]

if i set collision they'll walk on it

basically what I'm trying to do is that if players are prone, they can't get in water

[wary wave]

otherwise, you'll need to do trace base testing

[latent moth]

i'm already doing that (for footprints & sounds)

maybe I can leverage that instead

[wary wave]

probably

[latent moth]

i don't get the collision part though

[wary wave]

in our case on this game, when they're intersecting river geometry we determine how deep the water is, and only allow the player to go so far

[latent moth]

ah i see

[plush yew]

why i cant click replicate to speed things up?

[obsidian nimbus]

i wonder what makes more $$ epic selling fortnite skins or all streamers income combined

[plush yew]

or whatever

[cloud cobalt]

@plush yew Because it's not enough to replicate the position of objects

Not smoothly enough

[plush yew]

you confuse me

im not there yet

im at barrel (bp)

[wary wave]

...and yet you want to do multiplayer :p

[plush yew]

yeah after i learn bp and landscape

[cloud cobalt]

Well, let's say your barrel is falling & bouncing on a slope

You have that working in Blueprint

You need the server to tell the clients how it's moving

But on clients, you might have one second with no network update because someone is downloading porn, and then have two seconds of updates received at the same time

So the result looks like shit with a barrel teleporting back and forth

[plush yew]

oh lol

well thats their fault fo rhaving bad net

[cloud cobalt]

Not to mention you usually get one network update every 10 or 20 frames

That's on a local network

[wary wave]

no, that's your fault for having bad network code

[plush yew]

ph

oh

xd

[cloud cobalt]

Seriously, even a local Wi-Fi will do that

At your home

[plush yew]

lol

why

[latent moth]

...

[cloud cobalt]

Because networks are slow

[plush yew]

i have ethernet

its better

but

i see

what you mean

[grim sinew]

That's not how internet works.

[cloud cobalt]

Local Ethernet will do it too

[wary wave]

because things interfere with the signal, networks can get slowed by unexpected traffic or packet loss etc

[cloud cobalt]

Your game might take too much time on the processor, and network packets aren't processed fast enough, which slows the game down

etc

[wary wave]

even in a perfect network environment you still need a level of simulation and prediction otherwise things will jitter around and look terrible

[cloud cobalt]

Operating systems work by giving slices of time to programs, rather than processing all of them at once

So your networking, at the operating system level, works only some of the time

There are hundreds of reasons why simple replication can't possibly work

So your barrel, on the client, needs to use server information as solid, trusted values, and fake the movement inbetween these

[wary wave]

(and gracefully interpolate between the two when it's values don't line up with the server)

[prime grove]

is there a meme post?

[cloud cobalt]

Now this is for every feature in your game @plush yew , not just barrels. Everything you assume is easy & instant is now hard & prone to be off by seconds of gameplay

[prime grove]

np #lounge works 😃

[cloud cobalt]

So yeah, MP is hard

And UE4 is actually not the worst engine to do MP, if not the best either

[plush yew]

oh

[cloud cobalt]

MMO is yet another step behind that in terms of complexity & development cost, because the server now has hundreds of players to handle, and everything happens on the server

Which is why people will treat "indie MMO" as a meme

[whole quarry]

this seems like the same conversation as yesterday between the very same people 😄

[plush yew]

xD remco not really

[cloud cobalt]

It's always the same conversation because everyone wants to do an MP game

And most want to do a BR or a MMO

[grim sinew]

I want to make Planetside 3! 😄

[cloud cobalt]

I want to make Star Citizen

He wants to make Fallout Online

ambershee probably wants to make Destiny

Dunno

[wary wave]

oh lawd no, haha

[grim sinew]

So why don't you? It would take you like a week at most, right?

[cloud cobalt]

A week and a half

[whole quarry]

a week? are you a slowpoke pokemon?

[cloud cobalt]

I'm French, so I need time for strikes and paid time off

[wary stream]

Does anybody know where I can find Epic Citadel's APK file ?

I really don't get why Epic took it down

[grim sinew]

Just buy a few asset packs and push the make game button

[plain forge]

Whats would be the best way to set a float based on a bool?

[whole quarry]

float based on a bool?

[wary wave]

select node, I guess ,but eh?

[whole quarry]

you mean a bit?

[plain forge]

IE, if true use X value, if false use Y

[wary wave]

select node

if you're doing math, use a branch

[plush yew]

Select (Float)

[wary wave]

problem with select nodes is all branches are evaluated regardless of the condition

so if you're doing calculations, branch

[grim sinew]

Why not literally just do that? Make an if statement.

If you need it to be a set X or Y value instead of 0 and 1

[latent moth]

@wary wave sorry i still don'get how to set up collision to have a character avoid rivers. If I set the river BP and the character to collide, the character will basically walk on water, but not go on there... isn't it correct?

[wary wave]

the collision geo needs to be taller than the river

physically blocking the player

[latent moth]

right

[wary wave]

you then want to be careful about how you handle other things like ledges, bridges etc

[latent moth]

so when I add spline mesh component I need to add a block too?

[wary wave]

pretty much

[latent moth]

got it

thanks

[wary wave]

np

[warm mountain]

i might just keep to singleplayer for the start

i've been reading the MP documentation i don't think i'm there yet

[plush yew]

Prance im doing mp too

[warm mountain]

but even if its MP

the MP for my game at most is just a co-op

probably using the same keyboard too

player 1 with wasd and 1234

[frank escarp]

@plush yew you have no clue about dev, you have exactly 0% chance of getting anything done

MP is no joke

[warm mountain]

and player 2 with wasd numpad 1234

[kindred viper]

MP aint hard if you start at the beginning and dont try turn a single player into a multiplayer

[frank escarp]

its the absolute hardest thing you can do to a game

[kindred viper]

i disagree vblanco. Writing low level code is harder. Reading through some of the conversion code for FName last night blew my mind

[warm mountain]

i kinda get that MP needs to be done fundamentally from the start because the BP's on all mechanics need to take into account the server

[cloud cobalt]

I'm planning a second game that will be online coop. Three players max, no competitive, no servers, no matchmaking, just invite friends over if you feel like it. That's about the extent of what I feel realistic for a quality indie game.

Competitive MP is one thing I'm never doing

[warm mountain]

thats what i feel too stranger

same for me

at most if I do multi computer co-op I may attempt 4 players

its just a single map survival game

[cloud cobalt]

Spending half the dev time protecting against cheaters isn't my thing, and I definitely don't feel like playing with dedicated servers etc

[kindred viper]

I have a rule about that. I dont care about cheaters

if I did I wouldn't be using an open source engine

[warm mountain]

but i'm going to work on the map to provide as much interesting activities

that the player will never get bored

random encounters

interesting creatures

[cloud cobalt]

@kindred viper Which is why I only do cooperative. A competitive game with cheaters is refund material

[warm mountain]

unpredictable events

i kinda don't want it to be like killing floor where you have to kill every single wave of monsters

i'd like some waves to be survival waves

[whole quarry]

@warm mountain so the next No Mans Sky?

[warm mountain]

with a big monster everyone has to hide

i have not played that one

[cloud cobalt]

For what it's worth I actually worked on a noncommercial first game that was a competitive shooter

Cheaters were there 8 hours after release

[kindred viper]

No Mans Sky had some amazing tech in the code

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCRzxEEcO2Y

watch this and it will give you new respect for it

[warm mountain]

i don't want it to be specifically a survival game

its more like this map

and it has a random decision per round

which may include survival, assasination

etc

and the players have to follow it or be erased

[plush yew]

lol

[whole quarry]

@kindred viper without doubt NMS has great tech under the hood. Its something I definitly cant do

[warm mountain]

i'll def study what NMS has done

i heard a lot about it

[kindred viper]

I watched that video twice. It was enthralling

[warm mountain]

i just want to make something simple

to make me understand the process

[whole quarry]

@kindred viper what engine was NMS made on?

[kindred viper]

custom I believe

there may have been a base but i dunno

I put so much stuff in my brain, a lot gets left out 😉

[whole quarry]

then our kitchens look the same 😛

[plush yew]

my has white walls

[whole quarry]

I meant the dishes..

[plush yew]

yeah i have like 20 dirty plates in my room

need to clean them

[warm mountain]

i'm def going to leave procedurals and MP as last on consideration

but i'll keep things modular

in case i ever need to piece them together

my aim for now is single player

[kindred viper]

procedural stuff is good to learn early. I did because I needed to for my idea at the time, but it was so useful in terms of creating dynamic systems

[warm mountain]

but i may use the existing assets and do a seperate MP on the same concept

[kindred viper]

I dont mean procedural in terms of creating static meshes with vertex level construction or anything. Just doing things like creating Spline Mesh Components to fill the houses in a street or create a road

[warm mountain]

the map is pretty much set for me

oh yea

that might be good

when it comes to the detail part like randomizing the streets with different decals

or random rooms

those would be towards the end of my testing at this point

[kindred viper]

I started with random rooms. Rather I recreated the system from the movie "Cube 2: Hypercube" with infinite rooms. It was super fun

[warm mountain]

nifty!

right now all my rooms aren't enterable, its just black behind the windows

but i might once i solidfy the mechanics

i might add some interiors as hiding places

[plush yew]

thats the spirit

im really hyped too

i couldnt get 3d effect in game maker

but in ue4 its right ootb

[whole quarry]

each engine awnsers a different question, so that kind of makes sense

[surreal viper]

in my experience each engine makes you ask different questions 😄

[cloud cobalt]

Engines are the common set of features required by games they were made for

For UE4 that's a lot of action games

[grim ore]

I tried to do 3D in UE4 but I kept getting the error "Artist not Found" 😦

[cloud cobalt]

Become the artist

[plush yew]

yee bro

i like the tibia animation for hitting someone

might repeat that in my 3d game

will be faster

[tepid dragon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un9yyqLuzgk&t=1s

This is what i'm working on

[surreal viper]

now we can start the second most popular conversation, that is about making something based on an IP you don't have

[plush yew]

based on what?

[whole quarry]

I think he refers to that video

[surreal viper]

indeed

[whole quarry]

@tepid dragon maybe post it in #work-in-progress instead of here?

[latent terrace]

hey guys general question

is it safe to delete the saved folder?

[cloud cobalt]

Depends on whether you have game saves you want to keep

Screenshots, crash dumps etc also go there

[whole quarry]

logs are in there too

[latent terrace]

doesn't sound like stuff I can't live without

I mean it's 40 gb

[cloud cobalt]

You can just rename it to "Saved_old" and check that everything is still good

then wipe it

[whole quarry]

arent the backed upped assets in there too?

[cloud cobalt]

Also that, yes.

^ probably why that big

[plain forge]

Why does the strength of radial impulse have to be so high?

Or is that just normal for impulse strengths>

[cloud cobalt]

Because of the units involved I guess

[plain forge]

Im using 1,000,000*

for boxes that are being auto weighed in the default fps map, it just seems excessive I guess

[cloud cobalt]

Impulses are basically a force applied during one frame, which is only a few milliseconds

So it's like Newtons * s-1

[vale osprey]

Let’s say your box is 100kg, that results in 100 * 980 = 98000 of just weight

[plain forge]

Where is the 980 coming from? Sorry this is new to me

[cloud cobalt]

That's G

In centimeters / s²

Well, in world units per s-2

[vale osprey]

Default gravity in UE4

[plain forge]

Oh ok, so I have some reading ahead of me lol

[cloud cobalt]

G is the gravitational constant

9.8m/s² at the surface of the Earth

= 980 in UE units

Newtons, centimeters and seconds add up to a very high impulse value

Since you're applying a small force units (Newtons) over a short time (milliseconds) to a massive object (because centimeter-scale world units)

[vale osprey]

If you select component, it should tell you what is the calculated mass. Getting to a 100kg or higher is pretty easy as mass is calculated from volume and density

(Autocorrect equates mass with weight - good job Apple...)

[cloud cobalt]

Which is the same for all but space workers, but well

(blatant physicist trollbait)

[vale osprey]

Hehe 😄

[plain forge]

Well I did not expect it to be that complex but I need to learn it lol, thank you for explaining it

Is there something I can print off to have a reference sheet possibly?

This will take me a little to get used to lol

[brittle gulch]

Hi guys, I have this type of gameplay, where there's a lot of characters on screen at the same time. My custom character is about 8k tris. What do you suggest? Should I go for a lower dense mesh or can I keep the 8K model and with some optimization it will run? I'm jumping into model design now so I'd like to know what kind of detail level I can allow myself

[kind parcel]

cool

[plush yew]

heh moba xD

[smoky stream]

i like how they just sort of waddle up to each other and then fall over after a bit

[brittle gulch]

Thanks guys ^^ The horde is controllable directly with the joystick by the way

[plush yew]

i need to eat

then i can continue

on my mmo project

duh my dads in the kitchen

[vivid geode]

does everybody have the learn tab in their epic games launcher? it doesn't show up for me

[plush yew]

yeah

https://i.imgur.com/wleNtUC.png

[vivid geode]

wtf

(Community)
(More info)
(Marketplace)
(Library)

[silver crown]

That's why setting your OS/apps language to English is a good idea

[vivid geode]

: /

[patent siren]

did 4.19 fuck up anyone elses vs 2017

because when i use vs2017 it kind find my wwise libs but when i use vs2015 it can

[candid cypress]

Anyone have a decent guide in connecting multiple static meshes, like a train, and have them move along a spline and rotate a specific amount ?

[inner yacht]

Can Someone tell me how to spawn an enemy in a Streamed Level? He wont move...But it works in Persistent level.

Multiplayer

[grim ore]

by move I assume you mean AI and navigation. Do you have a valid navigation setup in the streaming level? if not do you have it set to rebuild the navigation area at runtime so it can build it when the streamed level is loaded?

[inner yacht]

Man Matt you always come through thx again its most likely the nav area

Back to work lol c ya

and goth if you are there i fixed the looking at characters function you helped me with yesterday. Made it all in one Function and it Fires Perfectly

[plush yew]

@brittle gulch hey max. you can have a relatively low poly object as the main character. then you can have a 1k-2k texture size base, normal, and spec mapping for your mesh. after that, it's just a matter of getting line topology right to account for how the mesh will deform in animation-time. if it has joints like a robot, and all moving parts are hard surface, topology isn't as important as if the char is organic like a dinosaur or human. apart from that, you'll be able to place all the detail you want into the texture itself and you can go from there to have a very realistic character. your video looks cool by the way, and i hope you were able to figure out that spawn thing earlier of the smooth spawner from root section for multiple spawn. oh and i recommend keeping what you have now if you don't have the time to re-do a detail model, and then if the performance gets bad you can re-do the model and then try reimporting and re-animating.

@inner yacht hey, that's great! just saw your msg.

[inner yacht]

Madd Props Bro Thank You for the help

[plush yew]

i'll be working on level design myself today 😃 almost got my AI working as well for 3d ship movement.

[inner yacht]

Congrats

I had no doubt

[brittle gulch]

@plush yew Hey thank you for your precisions and your support. I think I'll do what you said, put all the details in the textures and have a descent low poly mesh for the character. I'll try with my existing model first though, just to try out.
The game will be in a voxelized art style by the way, I'll be posting some previews this week, stay tuned ;)
For the spawn thing, I guess you saw my post earlier on the forum, unfortunately I didn't fid a workaround yet, I was mostly concentrated on the core mechanics for the moment, I'll see later if I'll finally implement the idea or if I'll find something even better to do 😃

[tired island]

New post on looking for talent :D

[inner yacht]

Matt fixed it for some reason had to press P key on my new Nav Volume to Build Navigation Was Stuck all Day on that geez lol

[devout gulch]

does unreal.js plugins

plugin*

can be used with node.js ?

probabaly nothing stand in the way

but like to know if anybody tried

[raven gust]

\

Cant get it to work

[grizzled jetty]

Are there any docs on manipulating large amounts of data during runtime? I'm sure I'm just not searching for the right terms, but I'd like to run economic and faction simulations in the background of my game and just need a pointer in the right direction. So far, none of the data structures I've read about (data tables, structs) seem quite right for that. Is there a UE4 equivalent to a nested JavaScript object?

[silver crown]

@grizzled jetty C++ or BP?

[grizzled jetty]

Probably BP, but I'm open to both.

The data would need to be available globally

[silver crown]

I'd go with a pure C++ structure

With an interface with UE for ufonctions and save/load through uobjects

But it might be a bit overkill

[plush yew]

Is anyone willing to help me out on a little alpha issue?

[round bloom]

^I know all about alpha.

[plush yew]

I've searched everywhere and I can't find a way to fix it

Oh yes :D

DMs?

[round bloom]

I have dms yes.

[grizzled jetty]

Thanks @silver crown! And if you went a BP route, what would you suggest, just so I can look at the options? (I don't know C++ yet, but am willing to learn if I need to)

[silver crown]

Don't do what I said then

What's a js nested object?

[grizzled jetty]

Basicallly:

obj = {
   parent: {
    child1: 'some value',
    child2: {
      grandchild: 23
    }
  }
}

[silver crown]

Ok

I think the easiest way to do it would be to use USTRUCTS

For instance if you create a struct A, you can create a struct B with a property a of type A

[pallid compass]

wait u can have child USTRUCTs?

[silver crown]

That would achieve something similar to nested objects

USTRUCTS or UObjects actually

[grizzled jetty]

Ok, that works. And what would be the best way to make them globally accessible?

[silver crown]

Game instance or something like that?

Haven't looked much in that side of UE

But basically you can create a subclass of something and add a property to it

And then access that property

[grizzled jetty]

Ok, that should be enough to get me started, thanks!

[silver crown]

@pallid compass ofc why?

[pallid compass]

i had

no idea

jesus

[silver crown]

Like when you have a USTRUCT with a FVector

[pallid compass]

Learn a new thing everday

then again ustructs are just basically uobjects

[silver crown]

No

[pallid compass]

oh

roast me

[silver crown]

UStructs are cpp structs

No data overhead

[pallid compass]

what am i thinking of then

oh is it ustructs are uclasses

or something

[silver crown]

No

[pallid compass]

maybe my brains are falling out as usual

[grizzled jetty]

So would a uObject be the uStruct instance?

[silver crown]

No

[pallid compass]

wth am i thinking of then

that i read on the wiki somewhere..

[silver crown]

UStructs are simple struct to store basic data

You pass them by copy etc

UObjects are more complex objects, with inheritance

They aren't copied around, and use the garbage collector

So which to use depends on your data

For instance a fvector is a USTRUCT

But an actor is a UObject

[grizzled jetty]

Just to verify, can you have instances of a UStruct? Say I have a faction UStruct, I could have separate instances for factions 1 & 2?

[silver crown]

Kinda, but it won't really work

Factions should be UObjects I think

[grizzled jetty]

Basically I'd want to have the structure of the data preset, but the values would be generated on game load and then changed throughout the game

So anything where there would be 1+, use a UObject?

[silver crown]

Another way to see it is that UStructs are defined by the data they hold, and UObjects by their instance

[grizzled jetty]

So a UStruct is more of a singleton?

[silver crown]

Ok I'm terrible at explaining stuff

[grizzled jetty]

Haha, no worries. 😛 I can read up on them more, now that I know what to look for.

[silver crown]

Yeah I guess you'll understand with practice

[grizzled jetty]

Definitely appreciate all your help

[silver crown]

😉

[lost meadow]

structs and objects are similar in ways; but no a UStruct is not a singleton. Singleton means it has only one instance, and is globally accessible. Structs are typically used to store data, like a book to read and write from. Objects are used for more complicated stuff.

A struct would be like a book. An object like a person holding a book.

[pallid compass]

So interesting question, what is the point in the _DEPRECATED macro, if it breaks everything anyway so u have to rename it all?

[silver crown]

@pallid compass it tells you how to fix it

[pallid compass]

i know CPF_Deprecated means it will only be loaded but not saved back in uproperty but thats about it

hu?

[silver crown]

Ah nvm not the same DEPRECATED

[grizzled jetty]

@lost meadow Thanks, that helps a bit. Are they both strictly data containers or can they also have methods?

[lost meadow]

In C/C++ both can, but I don't think UStructs can (not 100% sure)

@grizzled jetty

[grizzled jetty]

Ok, thanks!

[lost meadow]

np

@grizzled jetty It looks like they can have methods: https://wiki.unrealengine.com/Structs,_USTRUCTS(),_They're_Awesome

There is an example.

Sorry, I don't really do C++ in Unreal as I am focused on learning Blueprints. Sorry for the misinformation.

[grizzled jetty]

No worries 😛

[lost meadow]

How does one submit an issue for https://issues.unrealengine.com/

[grim ore]

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/support/report-a-bug

[lost meadow]

@grim ore thanks

[vivid girder]

How are line breaks not supported in MultiLine Text boxes?

[weary basalt]

They are

Need to use /n pretty sure

Or Shift+Enter

[vivid girder]

ahh, shift enter worked

but line break symbols don't

I imagine that will make it difficult to do localization

[cyan merlin]

ive been struggling with the way unreal scales heightmaps from world machine for awhile

they are always to flat or to tall

[vivid girder]

Anyway to render a widget onto the surface of an object (like as a material)?

Or is the only way with Render targets?

[mint umbra]

You gotta multiply the Z height of your heightmap by 0.19, and thats the Z import value - this works for World Machine heightmaps. Im unsure if theres another step, I can check when Im home from work.

@cyan merlin

[lost meadow]

Anyone know about: "Landscape Instanced meshes don't yet support unique static lighting for each LOD. Lighting on LOD 1+ may be incorrect unless lightmap UVs are the same for all LODs."

And/or why I am getting a Lightmass crashed

[lost meadow]

Never mind

I'm not using static lighting anyway

[round bloom]

yeah bruh dynamics wheres its at burh.

[lost meadow]

lol

[round bloom]

(dynamic lighting)

[dim arch]

does anyone know the name of the app which lets you simulate mobile input on mobile preview?

there is Slate Remote plugin (Apple Devices)

is there an android one?

[plush yew]

hello guys I have a problem with my place when I start the game usually. The problem is that you know the map for ThirdPerson Game and I want to expand the terrain and when I put thimgs on the map it is under the map or up to sky-why?

Maybe I have a problem with the collusion say the people in ither group?

[tranquil sierra]

heyy

how are you doing? 😄

[keen frigate]

Hey everyone 😃

[whole quarry]

@plush yew not sure what youre saying.. got a screenshot?

[keen frigate]

@dim arch Hey have you tried Mobile Remote Control?
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/remote-control-android-and-ios

[brave lark]

@sturdy star just getting a scaled copy of the map

[tranquil sierra]

everybody very busy? :p

[keen frigate]

a bit yeah 😃

[tranquil sierra]

haha network is lagged at work :p

zzzz

[keen frigate]

how so?

[tranquil sierra]

at work we only have 1 0 mbit and im downloading data :p

so nothing works

[harsh tiger]

anyone know why this cast is failing?

this is inside a blueprint actor that i spawn into the world by pressing a button a blueprint widget

[pallid compass]

What is the parent of Puzzle_GI

Have u changed your game instance clas

to actually be Puzzle_GI within the project settings

[harsh tiger]

lol

i'm such a dumb ass man

i always forget to add it to the project settings hahahaha. thanks, and do you remember mel?

[pallid compass]

il give u 50p

to change it back

and ask chris

to figure it out

we went to uni right?

[harsh tiger]

hes upstairs with level 3's i think. and who went to uni?

[pallid compass]

Us

LCC

or w/e its called

Uni level games dev

actually come longue before i get a back on the head

[rocky kayak]

The standard 3rd person tutorial has an event tick, set cursor icon's worldlocation and rotation. this isn't too impactful on performance is it? or should I be changing it to a "on mouse input blahblahblah" function?

[honest vale]

tick is fine for stuff that needs to happen every frame

and obviously setting cursor location has to happen every frame, right?

[rocky kayak]

true but like if the game's in the background it shouldnt be calling it but it will be

[keen frigate]

In the background?

[plush yew]

Have someone a good tutorial for wind grass?

[rocky kayak]

yea idk mabey im just going overzealous on my optimization philosophy

[honest vale]

yes you are 😄

you don't care about whether the game is in the background or not

OS will re-schedule and re-prioritize the process

[keen frigate]

@plush yew Take your pick... https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=moving+grass+unreal

@rocky kayak As a rule of thumb it is best if you can assign functions to something other than Tick or at least try to call the function not on every tick. 😃

[rocky kayak]

yeah thats the rule that i always stick to, just went thru and looked at all my event tick functions is why wondered about that one earlier since it's one of the few that i have

[dim arch]

thanks @keen frigate actually there is a good blueprint setup in the datasmith product viewer template

[keen frigate]

@dim arch Oh didn't think of that. 😃

[scarlet solar]

Fixed the issue with UE4 crashing, just had to make it run in DX12.

[kindred crag]

Hi guys

[plush yew]

hi qwert

[tranquil sierra]

hi Qwert 😃

[plush yew]

https://i.imgur.com/kExWiyx.png why it doesnt go up? i have gaming machine, small landscape and medium light quality

i didnt do any lights just the one that was there on fresh project

nvm it went up

[whole quarry]

Do you use the Lightmass Importance Volume?

[plush yew]

no clue

well i have my game starting point https://i.imgur.com/qF0bVjW.png

looks perfect

[whole quarry]

If you have no clue then you havent added it

@plush yew you're going for a playstation 1 graphics style?

[plush yew]

no im going full hd grapphics

[whole quarry]

Full hd graphics? What does that mean?

[honest vale]

my coffee machine is full hd

[languid shard]

[cloud cobalt]

Well, if the screenshot is 1080 pixels high, it's technically full HD graphics

[plush yew]

i mean i go full hd

idk how to tell

[cloud cobalt]

Are you going for a realistic look ?

A cartoony look ?

[plush yew]

realistic

[cloud cobalt]

Well, there's some work needed then 😃

[zealous jasper]

not sure which channel to ask so asking here: how do i access the fbx import settings?

[whole quarry]

When you import a fbx file

[fierce tulip]

in 4.19 it doesnt always appear for me, in that case you can change the import settings inside the mesh itself @zealous jasper

then just reimport

[zealous jasper]

thanks, restored defaults in blender and it worked

[plush yew]

Because I don't know about the packaging the game when you finish it is it hard to pack to download and install and play??

[whole quarry]

To its fairly easy to package... there is no installer tho

Just run the .exe and play

[tranquil sierra]

?

[fierce tulip]

me: "Today is working on main client day! excited! whoo vfx!"

works on cave environmental effects
"Cave map is checked out by other user"

Me: "Nuhh! oh well, Also need to do warrior vfx!"
"Warrior animations are checked out by yet another user"

Me: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[tranquil sierra]

you just extract the folder and play?

why do the games make an installer then?

what about piracy to.. 😃

[cloud cobalt]

Piracy is a non issue

[wary wave]

create new cave sub level

[whole quarry]

Piracy is free marketing

[wary wave]

paste level contents into real sub level when not checked out 😄

[tranquil sierra]

free marketing?

[plush yew]

y

[fierce tulip]

@wary wave tiny mobile level that exists out of only a few meshes and a few emitters, adding sublevels is kind of pointless for it hehe

[plush yew]

if u have a magic button that will later disable pirated copies after they became popular

then yes

[fierce tulip]

also, coder would scream at me :p

[wary wave]

nah, just locally

then you can paste shit in when it's unlocked

[fierce tulip]

all I need is place two emitters :p

[wary wave]

(just you know, make sure to take stock of which changes impacted yours)

[whole quarry]

@tranquil sierra people that pirate wont buy it anyway, yet they get to knoe your game and share it with friends if good enough, more souls know your game now

[cloud cobalt]

You can't stop piracy in any meaningful way unless you're shipping on the few consoles that aren't broken yet, not for longer than a week that is. Embrace it, ignore it, do a great game and support your customers.

[fierce tulip]

but, good idea for when I need to do more

thanks

[tranquil sierra]

haha true 😃

check

so don't even bother

i know everything gets hacked 😃

[cloud cobalt]

Fighting piracy is useful if you're going to sell a few hundred thousand copies on day one and you need the initial rush to buy legit copies

[cursive dirge]

I'd still debate lack of DRM

[cloud cobalt]

That's it

[plush yew]

https://i.imgur.com/Aby0tCB.png why this happens?

[whole quarry]

Because fatal

[tranquil sierra]

hahaha

:p

they call this layer 8 problem

not that easy to solve :p

[whole quarry]

Check in your project folder in Saved\Logs\ @plush yew

[plush yew]

i have pretty much default settings

[tranquil sierra]

I know the feeling.. lost 5 days on stupid camera

[cursive dirge]

@plush yew start by telling what did you do before that happened

[plush yew]

i clicked launch

[cursive dirge]

launch?

[tranquil sierra]

send game to the moon :p

[cursive dirge]

oh in the editor

[tranquil sierra]

liftoff

[cloud cobalt]

IMO, any DRM that costs you money or time is a waste of whichever it cost. You're trying to prevent non-clients from getting the game, rather than consolidate a relationship with clients by providing a better game.

[whole quarry]

Or dont check the logs and guess randomly

[cloud cobalt]

Now if you're big enough that money is more important than clients (AAA games) then sure

[tranquil sierra]

ok I understand 😃

[plush yew]

remco logs were written 2h ago

and i launched 5min ago

[cloud cobalt]

Do you have C++ code ?

Yours or a plugin

[plush yew]

No

[whole quarry]

So did you add an actor in the level?

[plush yew]

which one

[whole quarry]

The last one(s) between working launch and the crashing launch

[plush yew]

there was never working launch

first time i tried

[cloud cobalt]

Most reliable way of knowing what's the problem is, install the editor debug symbols, run it through Visual Studio, wait for crash, get the call stack

You'll know what crashed

[whole quarry]

@plush yew you never tried Launch before???

[plush yew]

no

never

[whole quarry]

Try make a new project and Launch it without making changes in the project

[plush yew]

i tried to launch tutorial with vehicle andLogPlayLevel: ERROR: Windows SDK v8.1 must be installed in order to build this target.
LogPlayLevel: Took 49,4160788s to run UnrealBuildTool.exe, ExitCode=5
LogPlayLevel: ERROR: Command failed (Result:5): C:\Program Files\Epic Games\UE_4.19\Engine\Binaries\DotNET\UnrealBuildTool.exe MyProject2 Win64 Development -Project="C:\Users\0\Documents\Unreal Projects\MyProject2\MyProject2.uproject" "C:\Users\0\Documents\Unreal Projects\MyProject2\MyProject2.uproject" -NoUBTMakefiles -remoteini="C:\Users\0\Documents\Unre
al Projects\MyProject2" -skipdeploy -ini:Game:[/Script/UnrealEd.ProjectPackagingSettings]:BlueprintNativizationMethod=Disabled -noxge -NoHotReload -ignorejunk. See logfile for details: 'UnrealBuildTool-2018.05.22-15.17.27.txt'
LogPlayLevel: (see C:\Users\0\AppData\Roaming\Unreal Engine\AutomationTool\Logs\C+Program+Files+Epic+Games+UE_4.19\UAT_Log.txt for full exception trace)
LogPlayLevel: AutomationTool exiting with ExitCode=5 (5)
LogPlayLevel: Completed Launch On Stage: Build Task, Time: 66.824526
LogPlayLevel: BUILD FAILED
PackagingResults: Error: Launch failed! Unknown Error

do i need windows sdk?

[cursive dirge]

probably

[plush yew]

did u guys install it

[cursive dirge]

most have full visual studio and c++ tools installed

I think windows SDK ships with it

[cloud cobalt]

Yep

[plush yew]

i have studio 2017

[cursive dirge]

well, try installing windows 8.1 sdk

there has to be option for it in the VS2017 installer

[plush yew]

but i have windows 10 not 8.1

[cursive dirge]

make sure you have c++ build tools enabled

doesn't matter

[whole quarry]

Its SDK 8.1 not Windows 8.1..

[plush yew]

ok ok

[cursive dirge]

well, technically SDK 8.1 only contains win 7 and 8 feats 😄

Win SDK 10s contains some Win10 exclusive things but it really depends on what api's you use

[plush yew]

so i get win 10 sdk or win 8.1 sdk

cuz there are both on microsoft

page

to download

[cloud cobalt]

Run the VS installer

Look for Windows SDK

Install that

[plush yew]

i dont have it

[cursive dirge]

did the message tell you missed win sdk 10?

[plush yew]

no it said 8.1

[cursive dirge]

then install 8.1 first

[cloud cobalt]

You do have the Visual Studio Installer

Run that

[plush yew]

I dont have

oh wait i have

[cloud cobalt]

Yeah, you do

[plush yew]

i dont know which one to choose xd

[cloud cobalt]

Windows 8.1 SDK

[plush yew]

ok i clicked something

[plush yew]

oh damni clicked wrong

soi keep other things checked

and just check additionally

8.1 right>?

[cloud cobalt]

Yeah

[next badger]

i believe it will select for you once you pick Game Development with c++ (it's set for ue4)

i have no sdk 8.1. and still could compile

[cloud cobalt]

Stuff like this is why you were told yesterday that games aren't done in a month, @plush yew . Setting up distribution of your game on Steam or others is going to be very much that kind of stuff for days

[next badger]

win 10 here

[plush yew]

Yes

[next badger]

distribution can be set on itch io for...5 minutes...

so it's a matter of preference

[whole quarry]

Steam will take longer than 5 minutes 😁

[cloud cobalt]

Yeah, Steam definitely won't take 5 minutes

Haven't seen many numbers about sales on itch.io too

[plush yew]

steam will take your whole life

[cloud cobalt]

No, but it will take a week, and setting up the business side will take more

[wary wave]

from what I gather, itch.io sales are generally very low and seldom break three digits

[plush yew]

i havent decided if it will be free with item shop or 5-10 usd on steam

[cloud cobalt]

We spend around two months getting on Steam ourselves, since we weren't from the US and needed some US-gov identifier for tax withholding

Most of it waiting, but probably two weeks of actual work too

[plush yew]

im not from us too

[whole quarry]

Steam took me a month or so after the greenlight

Itch is like click click done

[cloud cobalt]

The top selling page on itch has me skeptical that anyone is making money there : https://itch.io/games/top-sellers

[plush yew]

this looks so bad

[whole quarry]

It fits your start level style tho

[plush yew]

"dont forget fun" rotfl

[cloud cobalt]

Point being, making money takes work

[wary wave]

judging by that least, I'd be surprised if these games are selling more than a handful of copies in whatever period of time the top sellers list is updated

[plush yew]

so i need to create company

before steam?

[whole quarry]

Its recommended but not a must

[wary wave]

strongly recommended, because legals

[plush yew]

i wanted name

BroGames

But theres some website called like that

[whole quarry]

quickly registers Bro Games Studios

[plush yew]

i wouldnt add studio part

[cloud cobalt]

Strongly recommended because random people could sue you personally if you don't have a company to separate liability, and it's also probably mandatory in your country too

[plush yew]

oh ok

[cloud cobalt]

States don't care about people making $50 in game development, but you said you wanted to make real money so

[plush yew]

well i launched game now

thanks for help

[whole quarry]

The bussisness aspect and legal stuff are always such a joy to spend time on

Doing taxes always bring a smile to my face

[cloud cobalt]

Taxes are mostly straightforward here fortunately, for small companies it's a very easy process

Entirely digital too which doesnt hurt

[whole quarry]

"Anything to declare?"
-"Nope, I suck.."

[cloud cobalt]

Setting up the company was the real kicker

[plush yew]

mayvbe ill just make first versium free and add item shop with paypal transactions

[tranquil sierra]

this sucks :p

[plush yew]

and maybe final version will be paid on steam

[tranquil sierra]

do you do this alone karol?

[plush yew]

Yes

[tranquil sierra]

nice 😃

but what about bro?

when you work alone :p

[whole quarry]

@plush yew sounds like extra steps that will only eat time and give headaches

[obsidian nimbus]

i had over 200 downloads on one of my jamgames on itch 😛

[plush yew]

y maybe

idk what kind of company i need

etc

weird stuff

for steam

[tranquil sierra]

indeed

so who has games developed that are paying off??

is it possible? :p

[plush yew]

well i need game first anyway

[whole quarry]

@plush yew how are you going to make: player clicks buy item, get to paypal, transaction completes, games get some signal of transaction and give item?

[obsidian nimbus]

i got 4$ in doantions 😛

[tranquil sierra]

you can try to start a kickstart??

[plush yew]

remco thats very good question

[tranquil sierra]

you see all kind of "stupid" stuff going over 50k

[plush yew]

they let you embed their button on your website

[obsidian nimbus]

have u ever watched tv? people love stupid

[whole quarry]

So you need a login system and database interaction between site and game

[plush yew]

oh ok nvm

ill just go for steam then

[tranquil sierra]

true :p owninator 😄

crazy

i wanted to create a bad ass game and when i was thinking off it it was just recreating pong

hahaha

the way i was thinking of it would be the best game in the world

[whole quarry]

@tranquil sierra i made a pong game too!

Surprisingly fun to do

[tranquil sierra]

hehe :p I wanted a bad ass where you can shoot at the other side :p ahahah

[obsidian nimbus]

with pong u can start polish it after 5 min 😃

add guns and intros

[tranquil sierra]

indeed

[whole quarry]

@tranquil sierra i posted a video of it in #work-in-progress

2 days ago

[obsidian nimbus]

man the most polished pong game in the world might actually sell

[tranquil sierra]

you have a link?

[whole quarry]

Made in 6 or 7 hours

[cloud cobalt]

I'm very happy with what I did myself with my own crazy game project. Refine it for years until it's something I'm proud to have my name on, and then do real efforts to complete it, ship it and sell it. It's not making crazy money, but it has great reviews and few hobbies pay for themselves like that.

[obsidian nimbus]

pong gameplay is still rocksolid

[tranquil sierra]

cool dude

[whole quarry]

@tranquil sierra see DM 😁

I spend more time on VFX than gameplay xD

[tranquil sierra]

I saw

Haha

Very fast

😄

Love the graphs

[whole quarry]

Thanks 😁

Need to iron out some kinks tho, add some gamemodes and its ready for Itch

Was thinking of Ai vs Ai, Player vs Ai and local multiplayer

[flat plinth]

On the topic on pong, this game existed during the DOS-games era.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OtF2l147b4

[latent moth]

hello all, this should be pretty simple but I'm not having expected results. I need to get the vector that the player is looking at. I have the pitch computed from the controller. So I'm doing this, but the angle is off. Any ideas? https://gyazo.com/f943929827f51fc6b94da6fcb825e457

[lament kraken]

its not working?

[latent moth]

basically instead of 90 deg up or down i get way less than that (like 45), though the direction is correct.

[lament kraken]

give another part of bp

pic

[latent moth]

ok got it

this is it https://gyazo.com/2447d31dd9df33d6f1803d658eb6980c

thanks tonk

this allows to throw grenades depending on yaw and pitch of player

[lament kraken]

I helped?

@latent moth

I deleted my messages lol

[worn granite]

seems like you were a rubber duck

oh

why

[lament kraken]

Cuz I thought they are wrong

[worn granite]

Well I could tell you if they were.... if you'd not removed them.

[lament kraken]

I said that he needs to play with values

[worn granite]

I see.

@latent moth uhm there's a better way to do that

sec

[lament kraken]

If someone knows to make sand dm me

[latent moth]

@worn granite ok thanks 😃

[lament kraken]

show us your grenades

when you finish them 😛

I wrote in looking for talent 3D ARTIST for skills LOOL

[worn granite]

Either of these

[lament kraken]

Do you know to make sand

[worn granite]

Uhm.

Grind rocks together and throw it into the ocean

?

[lament kraken]

do you know to make sand

no meme sand

[worn granite]

I literally don't know what you're asking...

what kind?

[lament kraken]

Do you know to make sand texture so I can edit landscape

I need sand so I can make area for gladiators

I will send you pic

[worn granite]

Ok, thanks! I can make sand but I'm not an artist so it'll look bad, and I'm not going to do it for free.

[lament kraken]

Any suggestion how to make it?

Any tutorial?

[worn granite]

Iunno.

[lament kraken]

good tutorial

https://gyazo.com/c322c594a50f9d3fa33efdccc9f03d8a

I want this

[worn granite]

Have you tried looking at google?

[lament kraken]

I asked in one discord and I watched one video

I asked my teammates to do it

[bitter iris]

Has anyone watched the tutorials on Advanced Session?

[tranquil sierra]

Yes

Cpt

[latent moth]

thanks @worn granite will try that out too

[bitter iris]

@tranquil sierra Can you help me

[tranquil sierra]

Maybe depending

Whats the prob

[bitter iris]

So I'm on EP 4. Where the person is making Create Server and Find Server

I dont like the fact they are using boarders looks stupid when its together

Can I do it in seperate BPs

[tranquil sierra]

I don’t know that. Im sorry 😃

[bitter iris]

Okay then

[plush yew]

@bitter iris Haven't seen the series but yes you can separate them out as a separate user widget

[bitter iris]

So have the main "Multiplayer BP"

Link the Host BP and the Find Server BP to the Multiplayer BP?

[plush yew]

Yes

[bitter iris]

Okay cool

Thanks

[plush yew]

Up to you how to link data between them

My pc freezed when i launched epic world demo what I do?

Reset?

[lament kraken]

probably

[plush yew]

I mean i launched their map

[fierce tulip]

its made for ultra high end pc's, so it either takes a load of time to load, or itll crash your system

[cloud cobalt]

It's really not even made for anything, it was just a tech demo

[bitter iris]

Arent the assets like 4k or something, all i know is it eats my system worse than google chrome does

[plush yew]

Loop

[grim ore]

If its the kite demo I use it to test my pc's lol 😃 if it's the open world collection of scans I use that to look at the pretty flowers 😛

[plush yew]

Its kite

[grim ore]

the Kite demo takes a few minutes to hours to open, cache the stuffs, and compile the things.

[plush yew]

Oh i just wanted assets

[bitter iris]

Took me like 30 minutes on a i7 6700k , 32gb ddr4 and 1080 ti

[plush yew]

Lol what

[grim ore]

if you just want the assets then don't open the map and just use the assets

[plush yew]

Oh ok

Cuz idk how to make my own trees etc

[bitter iris]

I'd buy some theres a few cheap ones on the market

[grim ore]

the open world collection might be better suited for that as it's smaller and might open easier. alternately there are some free trees in the Content Examples project

[bitter iris]

Or there is SpeedTree but never used it as I dont find it to be worth the money

[plush yew]

I think blender forvtrees?

[grim ore]

also the hang glider project has some trees and is lighter weight

[plush yew]

Y i need morevthings

[grim ore]

If you are looking for real trees for a real project with real performance then you need to buy some built for that, make some using speed tree, or make your own. The ones supplied by epic are not intended to be used in a "real" game without modification

[plush yew]

Speed tree

Yeah i need to make a lot of objects like trees stones doors etc

Walls

[frosty bloom]

@plush yew take a look at ElementalDemo & the InfinityBlade assets. They are good placeholder assets

[plush yew]

Bunch of free trees made in Tree It: https://gumroad.com/lui

i can really make them

better for longer run

than using someones

oh i checked and i need to download blender

[rugged gorge]

Yo, is it possible to bake the lighting on CSG Brushes?

[grim ore]

You can probably "technically" do it in C++. with blueprints you can convert the json to a csv, import that as a data table, use that in a blueprint using a blutility to then create the level. It will take some work for sure but I think it is doable for sure.

I only say technically in C++ because I don't touch the ikky stuff and besides its C++ you can do anything in there.

[plush yew]

@west bane Alternatively, create a script that converts from JSON to T3D which is the format UE uses to store that kind of data. You can see it by selecting an actor and copy pasting it into a text editor.

[wary wave]

JSON parsing rather than a data table seems like a better approach

...sounds like a lot of work to potentialyl not achieve much though.

[plush yew]

low poly concept seems interesting tbh

[grim ore]

json parsing seems like the better approach but can you do that in BP?

[wary wave]

not really

there is a plugin for it, IIRC

[grim ore]

gotcha

[frank escarp]

@wary wave can ocnfirm

JSON is loaded trivially in C++

well, in any lenguage

currently using Json for enemy and map metadata

instead of data tables

[cyan merlin]

Ive been getting constant crashes while applying materials to my landscape

this is the latest one, they are not always the same

[wary wave]

the heck?

[cyan merlin]

I also got an error saying I ran out of texture memory, but I have a GTX 1070 with 8gb of VRAM

its getting kinda annoying to have to reload and redo my project constantly lol

[wary wave]

I guess it is possible you're running out of memory

but it would take a lot to do that

[cyan merlin]

yeah ive created larger landscapes before and not had issues

im not sure whats causing it

I have no meshes on the map or anything yet

just the landscape and the mats im trying to add

[next badger]

@cyan merlin show me the material

tab from ue4

*material = texture

[cyan merlin]

Sorry, I just left my house lol, but its a multilayer landscape one with ground foliage built in

[next badger]

landscape reuses textures, it's not related

[cyan merlin]

Ive used it before to create 8km by 8km maps fine

This one is 5km by 5km

I think it has something to do with VXGI

My.previous enviroments were with default ue4 branches

[next badger]

next time look at this parameter

[cyan merlin]

Ah OK

[topaz quest]

@grim ore Hi i was just wondering i was following a video of yours "WTF Is? A Dynamic Material Instance". I have been able to replicate what is in the video perfectly. I have without success tried to modify a parameter in a material placed inside the same widget. Do you know if this is something that can be done or does the material need to be placed on a mesh?

[next badger]

@topaz quest have you referenced the material instance inside widget's bp?

since MI only exist inside the BP it was created in

[topaz quest]

hey, yes i just don't seem to be able to get the specific parameter i want to modify.

i have followed that video and with the exception of getting all actors of class it is the same

[next badger]

hmm...

[topaz quest]

im also pretty new to ue4 so not 100% confident

[next badger]

@topaz quest the material is UI one right?

[topaz quest]

yes

[next badger]

they have only 4 outputs

in case of translucent

just to make sure you're not trying to modify something outside those 4

[grim ore]

I just tested and it does work

[topaz quest]

yes thats what i have although the opacity is greyed out

[grim ore]

What is the UI Material on? what type of widget

[next badger]

@topaz quest change the blend mode

[grim ore]

I have a feeling I know what the issue is, the later version changed the way dynamic materials work plus they work different on UI

[next badger]

@grim ore in most cases people trying to modify the opacity when material is masked or opaque

in the case of widgets

[topaz quest]

it's just a widget with an image that i want to increase / decrease the scale of. or change the scale of the image

[grim ore]

Are you using the Create Dynamic Material Instance node? if so that is the issue.

[topaz quest]

yes i am

[grim ore]

since you need to get the material on an actual widget in the widget you want to drag off the widget, image in this case, and use the Get Dynamic Material node

[next badger]

^ tha reference i was talking about

[topaz quest]

oh on thing the material is on the same widget as where i have a button to modify the material. is that a problem?

[next badger]

it is better to save the reference for each created MI

to a variable

[grim ore]

you dont create MI for widgets

[next badger]

and then dereference it

@grim ore ?

[grim ore]

https://imgur.com/a/excvxRZ

there are 3 pictures in that album

no material instance is created or referenced, the image itself holds that and you use the Get Dynamic Material node to get it

[next badger]

oh, i thought ui was generated

[plush yew]

Morning everyone!

[grim ore]

something changed at some point recentlyish where you dont even need to create dynamic material instances anymore unless you have to do something special. You can actually just grab the material on an object and it will do it for you when you want to change the parameter.

[topaz quest]

ok so in my case i have on clicked i want to set a value or increment the current value by 1

[queen wolf]

Ue4 is like the best engine. It works well with 3d and 2d

[grim ore]

it should be similar to what I posted, the click is in the same BP as the image right?

[topaz quest]

oh similar to the event construct ?

[grim ore]

https://i.imgur.com/4WAK43N.png , yep

you click, you get the image, you get its material, you change the Scale parameter on the material to 2

if you want the value to increment you would have a variable for it and just change it and set it again

[topaz quest]

gotcha. I will try that out now 😃

thank you 😃

[grim ore]

there are even Increment and Decrement nodes to make it easier as well

[topaz quest]

oh thats nice

ok cool i think i have it setup correctly this time. the button i want to click doesn't show up on my widget but thats gotta be a small thing 😃

thanks so much

[grim ore]

yep yep, hopefully it works out 😃

[plush yew]

Where can i find low poly sky box/skysphere?

(free)

[lament kraken]

yes bois I know my looking for talent is not good I was thinking fast and typing fast SORRY

[dim arch]

so I changed something in project settings and now everything has broken render-wise, how do I reset it?

all the icons are flat

[hasty owl]

https://puu.sh/AqWRb/f70f9cf9ec.png
Is there a different way of doing this? atm the mouse moves diagonally down to the right when the set mouse position is called but i have no idea how to solve that =/

[dim arch]

apparently near clip plane bugs it out

[hasty sinew]

https://gyazo.com/d0a2665f95facc585d4e1184724716c3 anyone know what the fuck is going on here?

[dim arch]

anyone know why objects with materials which have disable depth test enabled will be culled at a far distance?

looks like the camera is parented to a joint which has some erratic animation data

[hasty sinew]

its the 3rd person example map lol

[dim arch]

yes but the camera is following the character

if the springarm is parented to a root bone which is gonna shake when they turn around so will the camera

I fixed the disappearing object issue by setting rendering -> bounds scale to 3

[fathom gale]

xd

[plush yew]

Does anyone know how to make a tree like The witness in Blender or Speedtree?

[fathom gale]

tried youtube>

how to make realistic trees

then just change the color to the way u want it

[frosty bloom]

I believe polygon had quite a few sections discussing how to make the stylized trees used in games like the witness

[plush yew]

Make me switch to unreal in one sentence

[cloud cobalt]

Depends on your game.

[grim ore]

don't switch to unreal, it's not worth it.

[lost ember]

Any good Git style service that would support a full UE4 project?

The guy I'm working with can't push the initial commit because of the huge size :/

Even with the correct .gitignore

[long vector]

Git lfs

And gitlab

[cloud cobalt]

Or Perforce, or SVN if you're looking for alternatives

Git LFS isn't magical nor does it reduce the initial commit size

Gitlab is just a host

[worn granite]

svn

pukes

[cloud cobalt]

Well, it's not great, but Git isn't great for art assets either

[worn granite]

true

[plush yew]

@grim ore why?

@cloud cobalt I want to do a low poly survival game

With networking if I can afford it

[cloud cobalt]

Look at the tools in UE4, look at the tools in other engines, compare, etc

UE4's strengths are probably the rendering quality, material tools, C++ support with source code, and Blueprints, and maybe multiplayer too

[grim ore]

If you are asking "convince me to do XXX" then it's a bad choice. Don't listen to others. Figure out what you need and see what has what you need.

Especially since you asked to switch which means you are already using something else

[cloud cobalt]

UE4's weaknesses would be that the rendering is monolithic and not very flexible, that documentation is lacking, that the learning curve is steep, royalty model possibly costly, it's also more demanding on dev machines

Your mileage may vary

[desert jay]

I'm having a root motion animation issue. Which channel should i ask for help?

[plush yew]

I am using unity but I can understand c# but not yet write it

[latent moth]

is it normal that “addimpulse” issued on server on a replicated & replicated movement actor only has effect on server?

(on server) spawn actor -> add impulse, the actor receives impulse on server but drops down (physics enabled) on clients

[safe rose]

Use Godot @plush yew

If you are really wondering who to switch to from Unity

[unreal spoke]

an easy-short tutorial on how to give some feedback (physycs animation/ragdoll) to my characters on impact?

[plush yew]

Thinking about it @safe rose

[unreal spoke]

ok, ragdoll ready. Easier that I though
Now how can I apply a force to a bone if the bone is being animated at the same time? Hmmm

[kindred viper]

Blend functions handle that. Im sure I saw one for setting a delta between 0-1 for physic- anim

if im wrong, and I could be its been a while, you can always take Pose Snapshots and apply the impulse and blend it in with the current animation.

[unreal spoke]

@kindred viper Thanks I'll check those 2

[plush yew]

will i ever learn cpp

and become programmer

if i use unreal bp alltime lol

[worn granite]

you're stretching out your logic muscles...

[plush yew]

no i mean will i have purpose to learn coding

if everything can be done

with bp

[worn granite]

So it doesn't hurt but making the jump from node -> text is still a challenge.

Oh.

[vale osprey]

not everything, far from everything

[worn granite]

I read that the other way lol

[unreal spoke]

ok, base problem. I cannot detect bone collisions in my impacts. I assume my impacts are against the main capsule of the player, so they bones are never touched.
So the questio nis how can I use the physics asset to detect cfollision instead of the main capsule? And will that mess with the rest of the character stuff like movement?

[worn granite]

Yeah, no, there are so many things you just CANT do in BP

[plush yew]

like what

[worn granite]

superficially you can make an entire game with pure BP and no plugins.

But

Reject a player during the connection phase, for one.

[frosty bloom]

Lambdas doesn't exist in BP right?

[vale osprey]

pretty much anything with a resonable amount of depth or what is not pre-canned already

[kindred viper]

@unreal spoke you can add custom collision that uses different channels for that. Or physics capsules that dont collide with the main capsule, depending on your setup

[worn granite]

Yeah you can't do lambdas

[vale osprey]

even debugging 😄

[worn granite]

Another thing would be quaternions....

[kindred viper]

quat are you talking about?

[plush yew]

uh

[frosty bloom]

Well, the list continues for miles anyhow.

[kindred viper]

badabumm tsch

[worn granite]

good thing I made a plugin for that =D 💵

There's a lot of things that you'll probably go Oh, well nobody uses that

eh

[vale osprey]

just one version ago you coudn't set breakable limit from code or react to break event of the constraints

[worn granite]

Not my job to sell you on why C++ matters

But I could dig up examples of things you flat out cannot do in BP all day.

Plus, half the things you can do in BP are just plugins

[plush yew]

y im just sayin

[worn granite]

So that's another dependency right there.

[plush yew]

i wanna be programmer just in case

to not be like

without experience

lol

[kindred viper]

I just made something in BP. But I wanted a custom detail panel. So I had to rewrite it in C++. I can't emphasize how much time difference it cost me 😦

[frosty bloom]

you want to make an MMO, so it's either C++ or go home tbh

[worn granite]

SEE

lol jk

[plush yew]

lol

but there are bp for mmo

[frosty bloom]

not rly lol

[worn granite]

oh sure it'll technically work.

[plush yew]

yes

for connectivity

[worn granite]

but you've got a hard limit on how much you can really optimize it and it's brittle af just like anything in BP

[plush yew]

brittle?