@keen birch unity has some handy features
#ue4-general
steady sequoia
I'm super used to B now that I hardly touch normal text coding anymore
tranquil sierra
like for camera stuff
whole quarry
I see game making as problem solving. Each step is a problem to be solved. Once I've the larger flow working, I start to optimize it and reduce the amount of instruction as much as possible, usually ending up with wierd abstract functions that dont make sense on their own ๐
tranquil sierra
jah :p
tranquil sierra
fun thing is to make it smooth
you can have 100 strange strings
or have 10 nice ones ๐
but need more exp ๐
can't solve my problems yet ๐
whole quarry
Same but exp comes as you go
plush yew
how is the builtin networking thing in unreal?
whole quarry
My biggest problem now is choosing which project do i work on today
plush yew
is it good?
whole quarry
The jam spawned a 3rd project.... >.>
tranquil sierra
haha I know the feeling
this is only the beginning
what about the level design
character design
animations..
:p
you need to know a lot before you can start creating a good game ๐
whole quarry
Dont forget the audio
tranquil sierra
I see a LOT of games using al the basics and even release that
whole quarry
Audio is important too
tranquil sierra
i don't fear audio
whole quarry
But still a challenge
whole quarry
Even a simple menu bleep can be a headache xD
tranquil sierra
indeed :p
whole quarry
"Nah this isnt bleepy enoug"
whole quarry
"Lets add some fx... shit its a full track now"
tranquil sierra
sitting in the room with the guitar trying to do some tunes
you press record
after the first note
BABEEEEE FOOD IS READDYYYY
crap
need to restart
restart
first note
"bark bark i need to pee" dog is getting anoyinh
:p
grrr
i love music
plush yew
piensken are you pro at unreal
plush yew
can you code mmo
tranquil sierra
not mmo ๐
bussy with side scroller and classic beat em up
can't handle the camera even with the blueprints in my possesion :p
so sorry
plush yew
hmm i came here from unity
i always have problems with choosing best programming language or best gaming engine to learn
whole quarry
You can always buy the MMO Starter Kit
plush yew
oh, buy
sudden agate
you can always learn and practice, too ๐
whole quarry
@sudden agate in what kind of twisted world do you live?
sudden agate
ikr
plush yew
but mmo is free in unity
whole quarry
So use that then?
plush yew
unreal has better perfomance+ graphics
rust made in unity is not even that perfect grpahically but its very resource costful i cant run it on lowest details on endgame hardware without it heating to crazy degree
keen birch
Let me just get this straight
whole quarry
if you have crazy specs but cant run it on lowest details without heating to crazy temps, then you've definitly a flawed setup ๐
keen birch
You think you're going to out-optimize Rust
Which has a guy dedicated to optimizing their pipeline?
whole quarry
must be crazy ๐
plush yew
i have msi apache pro laptop
cost a lot
- gaming brand
and other games work fine on 100% hd, just that this one heats too much on lowest details that my fingers get burn and i get irritated after couple mins
latent terrace
hey, kind of a general question
how do I test to know that my game doesn't suck?
like it's not laggy in the editor
now launched it as a standalone game
and it's running fine as well, can I say it's all ok? : P
sudden agate
if multiplayer, test with Packet Lag/Loss and a high variance :P
if it's just for graphical reasons, just play on older hardware
If for gameplay reasons, let it playtest ๐
latent terrace
packet lag/loss, would it be for a multiplayer game?
my game is single ๐
ah nvm, that's what happens when you read from bottom
yeah I was a bit worried because the game liked to have a massive lag when launching it for the first time in editor
but no such a thing occurs in standalone
should I package it to test too?
wary wave
often good to test packaged game every so often
okay, so we have a weird problem with textures
we have a texture to be used in post process that's a fairly normal 4 channel texture that I can see
in a widget, it looks fine
in the material editor, you only ever get a flat colour out of it?
what gives?
(looks fine in the texture viewer too)
hmm, looks like an alpha channel issue
never mind xD
latent terrace
I packaged the project and a WindowsNoEditor folder has been created, is this the thing? : P
whole quarry
yes, inside that is the .exe file to start the game
latent terrace
thx ๐
argh
game is broken in packaged ๐
is there any log or something that I can check?
it's just stuck on the loading screen xD
whole quarry
hmm not sure, I would assume there is
latent terrace
I've packaged for the first time so I have no clue how it works haha
steady sequoia
Maybe try adding your maps to the "List of Maps to include in a packaged build"?
I think I've had your problem before and adding my map in there solved it
Not entirely sure though since I'm no packaging expert
plush yew
is unreal good choice for open world mmorpg (of small callibre)?
i think they are better at creating mmos with short sessions like fortnite etc with 3-10min matches, at least they stated so
wary wave
Fortnite isn't an MMO
oblique trench
@plush yew You can do everything with Unreal or any common game engine. Sure if you know how to do.
oblique trench
I think the problem is experience. The problem is not the capabilities of the engine. At least you need bunch of programmers, artists, designers and other roles to make MMO.
whole quarry
Well, UE4 isn't made for MMO's out-of-the-box, you can achieve it nontheless, but modifications in the source engine allows the dev's to make it more fitting for the MMO purpose
plush yew
fortnite is an MMO
plush yew
ofc they are
whole quarry
sigh
plush yew
rust has a lot of players
whole quarry
you think thats impossible?
plush yew
it probably has more players than most typical mmorpgs
whole quarry
like EVE Online or Planetside 2?
plush yew
no im saying rust and fortnite are mmo
whole quarry
no, those aren't MMO
plush yew
why not
whole quarry
not enough players ๐
next thing people will call CSGO a MMO too
because millions of players
.>
plush yew
of course its mmofps
plush yew
how else would u call it
whole quarry
perhaps: Multiplayer ?
plush yew
multiplayer can be without internet
whole quarry
yes, it can
plush yew
so its mmo
plush yew
just cuz it doesnt have open world
it doesnt mean its not mmo
tibia has servers with 100 players online at a time does it mean its not MMORPG?
digital anchor
yet it can have 1k+
whole quarry
open world doesnt equal MMO indeed, but the amount of player capacity determains a MASSIVE multiplayer
plush yew
yeah
and league of legends is mmoba
if rust servers can have 300 players then its surelly mmo
anyway i meant if UE is suitable for open world mmo
digital anchor
im not sure if your question is what defines a mmo or if UE4 can handle a massive amount of player
digital anchor
so, surely a few hundred may need engine changes, even 100 for fornite needed them
if youre aiming for 10-20 youre fine
wary wave
Fortnite has no features that would make it an MMOG
plush yew
no im aiming for 500
grim sinew
Any game engine is suitable for an MMO if you're a good enough programmer.
wary wave
generally speaking one would drawn the line when player counts reach the thousandish mark, but it's poorly defined
grim sinew
The engine isn't the problem, your team and budget are.
wary wave
budget is your biggest concern
grim sinew
If you aren't a professional server programmer, you'll struggle getting past 70-80 players on any engine.
wary wave
server infrastructure costs money to run, and someone needs to build said software too
plush yew
oh lol
digital anchor
i am a programmer for a long time, and its still pretty hardcore for changing engine stuff
not easy for sure
plush yew
oh
wary wave
once you start getting past basic dedicated servers, you tend to need additional service layers operating outside of the game itself
plush yew
this is some complicated stuff
plush yew
100 players is enough at first
wary wave
100 is just about doable on a standard dedicated server setup
plush yew
but if you can attract 100 players then u can attract more
wary wave
but it's pushing boundaries
plush yew
idk im total noob but i dont wanna limit myself in the begining
digital anchor
actually if you got 100 players online at the same time chances you already sold 5k copies of your game
plush yew
i have good pc i coudl as well test/host open beta on it
no it will be free game
so 5000 free downloads, yes
digital anchor
oh that will be expensive
wary wave
How do you intend to run a free game?
plush yew
with item shop
whole quarry
I hope your connection can handle the data
wary wave
...then you're going to need an account system, databases and online services to support all that
wary wave
you're getting back into the realm of 'games that will cost millions' again
whole quarry
Lol
digital anchor
small and mmo doesnt go well
surreal viper
small indie mmo sounds like success granted...
wary wave
Free to play games cost a lot to build and maintain
whole quarry
And I was afraid it would be boring today, ๐ป
surreal viper
that is not the genre a beginner indie dev should think of
digital anchor
take your idea, see what would be fun if playing alone, if it attract enough attention, then make it MP
wary wave
especially since conversion rates from unpaying to paying players is usually very low
wary wave
which means you need to able to support tens, if not hundreds of thousands of players in order for the cash shop to gain critical momentum
plush yew
takain i heard its better to start mmo from start instead of rewriting single player
whole quarry
Its your first 'serious' game?
digital anchor
it is less work to get everything finished, yes, but better have a SP in 6 months and MP in years
wary wave
(players won't spend money if other players aren't spending money, and they won't spend money in unpopulated games)
whole quarry
Or did you release before?
plush yew
i didnt
whole quarry
So, first game is MMO?
grim sinew
If it's not released, then you haven't had games.
whole quarry
Classic 
grim sinew
You've had practice.
wary wave
most studios will make a small arcade game and push it through to release before trying anything bigger
it serves to establish internal processes and get a team familiar with them, and ironing out the kinks, being more familiar with the tools and pipelines etc
all at lower cost risk
plush yew
ye
anyway i think i can profit on 100 players
so there wont be need for engine changes to UE?
for up to 100 online at the same time
surreal viper
no free to play game ever made profit on 100 players
tbh your current plans are so unrealistic that you can pick any engine you want, it won't make a difference
plush yew
thanks
but 100 players at the same time means 1000 active in general
just not logged in in the same time
whole quarry
well, no..
wary wave
if you conversion rate is normal, around 0.5% of players will ever spend money
whole quarry
like Tim God once said, success wont just come
plush yew
im sure more players spend money for league of legends skins than 0.5%
plush yew
ye
wary wave
League of Legends has 30 million players +
plush yew
but its not only lol
wary wave
and I think that 0.5% may have been their own statistics
whole quarry
I would advise not to look at the success stories but focus on the failing stories which is more common than drinkable water
you can learn a great deal from those
wary wave
somber pendant
Guys im doing a ammo system so it says the ammo and the max ammo but i wanted to have a little "/" in the middle of both text boxes can i do like (AMMO + /) (MAX AMMO) in the texbox?
whole quarry
use Append
somber pendant
Append?
whole quarry
yes
somber pendant
in the widget?
whole quarry
you can build a whole string
somber pendant
what about the functions
somber pendant
Yeah
wary wave
some interesting quoted numbers from above;
Acquisition cost of a new player can be $2.5
Average revenue per paying player can be $0.1 per day
Conversion rate of players can be 2%
so using 1000 players: you spend $2500 to get the players, 20 of them will pay money, and you'll earn $2 per day from them
somber pendant
i have 2 functions GetTextAmmo / GetTextMaxAmmo
wary wave
assuming 0 operational costs, it would take three and a half years to make a return on your initial acquisition investment xD
whole quarry
o0
fierce tulip
lol
whole quarry
who will pay to GET players? ๐
somber pendant
@whole quarry I cant find any append in anything
whole quarry
somber pendant
Btw is there anyway i can Reference my Crosshair image to a variable?
When i Aim down sights my crosshair dissapears and when i stop ads it appears again
whole quarry
Google ๐
somber pendant
cant manage to find it
I Tried to do In the function i use ADS if True then ( Cast to player Widget) - Set imagecrosshair - ??? i dont know what to put there
Deactivate? hide?
somber pendant
im finding how they hide the Whole widget
i will just set the opacity to 0 xD
The alpha i mean
whole quarry
plush yew
remco are you mentor
whole quarry
not at the moment
plush yew
is this you in the pic
whole quarry
No, its some stranger I found ๐ค
digital anchor
LMAO
whole quarry
Thank you I guess?
plush yew
and go gym
whole quarry
... I love my glasses tho ๐ฆ
I'm only going to the gym when I see results at @fierce tulip
whole quarry
๐
@plush yew I wont ever take contacts tho, I know to many people who lost a lens at the back of their eye ball
tranquil sierra
I missed alot... Damn meeting :p
whole quarry
Time to practice shooting if you miss that much 
topaz quest
man selecting a color range between two values is no trivial thing to do in a material
fathom gale
wot
topaz quest
im trying to select all colors in a color range, similar to how photoshop does it
instead of having to manually specifying every color in that range
whole quarry
So you have R 0-255, B 0-255, G 0-255 and Alpha 0-255
topaz quest
ok
whole quarry
So im not sure what you actually mean with "Selecting a color range" followed up with "by 2 values"
topaz quest
currently im using a constant 3vector to select a color and im subtracting that from a texture and using the output.
whole quarry
Yes
topaz quest
I want to have two different colors and subtract all the colors in the color range between them. so for example if i specify 255,20,255 and 255,60,255 i want to be able to subtract the difference between the two from my texture instead of manually specifying each color separately
whole quarry
I've have an idea how to do that but im unable to UE4 right now
But it will be based on 3 values instead of 2
topaz quest
oh thats great. I would appreciate any thoughts about it
whole quarry
Because of the RBG
topaz quest
right ok
whole quarry
I'll try to experiment tonight and share it with you
Sounds like something I can use in my horror game :P
topaz quest
essentially im looking for a way not to have to specify 60+ separate colors
lol sounds interesting. what is the game called?
whole quarry
What is the goal behind it?
topaz quest
im just using it to mask out a texture right now more a proof of concept than anything else
whole quarry
Title and content is secret until done to avoid spoilers (its puzzles too and the name give things away)
Ah oki
topaz quest
cool i love/hate horror games
whole quarry
Nice underdog challenge
topaz quest
i scare way too easy ๐
whole quarry
Same :D
topaz quest
ya i just wanted to not have to specify 60+ colors separately
i didnt know it would hurt so much ๐
whole quarry
Tho im more a fan of ghosts and paranormal than monsters and jumpscares
topaz quest
me too ๐
plush yew
Did you try my suggestion of using HSV instead of RGB?
topaz quest
hey ya i tried to do that but i didnt get very far.
plush yew
Is there any Unreal Engine Cinematics/Film Discord server? Aimed only for people who create cinematics in-engine?
Hi everyone btw
keen frigate
@plush yew don't know about a dedicated server but we do have an animation and cinematics channel on this server.
and Hi ๐
plush yew
Thank you :)
keen frigate
You're welcome
grim sinew
We know
tranquil sierra
I want to but Its not that sumpke
Simple
I need the camera stop following When Im close to a wall. Otherwise my camera goes beyond the wall And I have 50% of map in my screen
In unity This is Just a tag. In Unreal Its a crazy mofo code
And I bought the sollution. But implementing And adjust
Is not that simpel ๐
IT seems simple but iT is not
whole quarry
you can block the camera when hitting a collision tho
wary wave
not a great solution though
better to determine whether the character is obstructed in a given axis and adjust the camera accordingly
whole quarry
or just remove all the walls ๐ค
plush yew
@south ridge Sorry for the late reply, I went to bed. I think I have it all on Epic
LOL you bought camera solution
you can as well buy entire game
no offence
whole quarry
So you're saying one shouldn't buy any thing from the MP?
Because time equals money, and buying MP items saves time?
plush yew
id spend the money on contact lenses instead
plush yew
dang i love your jokes you probably have a lot of women
whole quarry
thank god no, just 2
tranquil sierra
Other sollution mentioned is the way. But my kwoledge is to less
Check first 4 seconds
Thats iT.
whole quarry
oh thats the kind of stuff I wanted to process in my jam game
tranquil sierra
Also on the x acis
whole quarry
but i didn't had enough time to finish it up
tranquil sierra
16โฌ
4 days of searching
IT wil pay off
Just need to convert What I bought
Hahah
whole quarry
I think it will require some level volumes to tell the camera "go here, go there, dont go there"
tranquil sierra
They โlockโ y axis at collision with box
whole quarry
to prevent it from going out of bounds in such a 2.5D level, I would just clamp the camera location
tranquil sierra
?
plush yew
dang why not go for 3d bro
whole quarry
i.e. level goes on from X 0 to X 5000 , the camera wouldnt go any lower than X 100, so clamp it
plush yew
ooh ok
tranquil sierra
There is a clamp node? :p
whole quarry
aye ๐
whole quarry
with the clamp you can set a min and max range
whole quarry
but for that platform camera movement, thats some magic needing to be solved ๐
tranquil sierra
I Will Check This. Thx
whole quarry
No Problem My Belgium Friend
I'm sorry, its friday, alone in the office, annoying as hell ๐
whole quarry
Thats how I would do it ๐
tranquil sierra
Is there a way to see exact at What coรถrdinates I am standing?
whole quarry
you could PrintString your ActorLocation ?
tranquil sierra
If This easy thing works Why do they make This so complicated
At a button press
Hmmm need to do some stuff for holliday. Hahah noooo
I Will test This. ๐
whole quarry
OnTick ->
GetPlayerPawn>GetActorLocation>PrintString
Hookup the OnTick DeltaSeconds in to the Duration
wary wave
you really only need to control camera offset
plush yew
https://i.imgur.com/bp6UqXI.png are these required to rununreal games?
wary wave
no, but it isn't a bad baseline
wary wave
personally I would have ditched the spring arm and manually controlled the camera offset at all times
tranquil sierra
Thats a good id..
They do iT like this
But how
Are there tutorials If This stuff?
wary wave
also a good read:
https://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/ItayKeren/20150511/243083/Scroll_Back_The_Theory_and_Practice_of_Cameras_in_SideScrollers.php
honestly it's just vector math, there's not much to tutorialise because individual games have individual needs
tranquil sierra
Indeed. They do iT with vectors. I have the code.
Thx
I want to understand
This Will hzlp
wary wave
the above article is very good at describing various camera techniques
plush yew
Lol
keen frigate
@tranquil sierra May I suggest something? Why don't you buy this and see how it's done. It is a fantastic camera setup.
wary wave
I would always make my cameras myself personally
it's always best to tailour a camera to your specific game needs
a lot of people underestimate how important the small details of the implementation are
tranquil sierra
@keen frigate I bought a similar one
keen frigate
@wary wave I agree. If you know how to do that. But, you can learn a lot by reverse engineering a well done implementation as the one I mentioned.
tranquil sierra
I understand. But there are not that much rutorials explaining about the camera itself, How iT works And so on..
plush yew
Hey any ideas?
grim ore
the camera shows stuff it is pointing at, seems pretty simple ๐
keen frigate
@tranquil sierra True. That's why I recommended the above asset. They always document their asset packs in such a way that even if you don't know anything you can still tweak it to suit your needs and learn in the process.
plush yew
omg how do you create such amazing game @plush yew
you did graphics?
Is this amazing?
Im such a noob
just add some grass rock etc. and a river
wary wave
a good camera often doesn't point at anything :p
tranquil sierra
:p I know What hรจ needs to do. I sorted iT out. But creating iT without the knowledge
:p
plush yew
Im not going a university
Just on middle school
Using my creativity
oh unreal is so nice out of the box
but for production better to use ur own graphics
tranquil sierra
@wary wave is iT possible to make iT look to an area, And When you tough a collision you tel him to change manualy to other coordinates?
whole quarry
@plush yew the foliage needs shadow :P
Perhaps dirt or sand texture at the water line?
plush yew
ai bois
is unreal documentation good starting point
or theres better tutorial somewhere?
i read it but dont remember it by heart
i assume i need to use software first a little bit before reading it
tranquil sierra
I had a couple good YouTube tutorials
wary wave
hehe
frank escarp
@fierce tulip doing good
frank escarp
lazy guy is reaping the patreon money with shoddy as hell stuff
like seirously those horribly textured/material stuff, and indinity blade assets around
(plus beyond blatant ip infrigment)
plush yew
anyone have a sand meterial?
wary wave
if he has a Patreon, doesn't that mean he's violating the UE4 EULA?
fierce tulip
tell that to epic who donated 20k or whatever in a devgrant to him
wary wave
๐
wary wave
indeed
tall pendant
@fierce tulip haha nice one ๐
frank escarp
@wary wave he has a quite huge patreon
lots of cash
and the work is absolute garbage
literally just a shitty horribly made link model probably from turbosquid free tier into the example landscape map
wary wave
I assumed it was ripped, actually
fierce tulip
its "borrowed"
wary wave
hah
frank escarp
the environments are ripped if they are low poly
if they arent, its infinity blade assets
or some other ue4 free stuff
i dont know why he hasnt gotten lawsuited super hard by nintendo
i mean, he is very clearly charging for the stuff through the patreon
wary wave
they're probably unaware
digital anchor
yes
tall pendant
they are ok to use.
plush yew
they are sexy good looking
fierce tulip
@frank escarp not to mention he is buddy buddy with truebones XD
plush yew
How its looking
omg @plush yew how you made it bro
it looks high end chit
its incredibl
Dude
I have only 40 - 20 hours on unreal engine
Just open unreal engine
You will be get skilled with time
i have it opened
and follow unreal documentation
I wasnt read unreal documentation
just using my creativity
can you mentor me for my friendship
Umm. Yes?
Good!
mint umbra
Has anyone here migrated over the Raven & Deer AI Fauna systems from the Kite demo into their projects? I'm trying to pick it apart and use it in my own project, but some of the migration is failing, etc. Specifically the random spawning of actors, and the flocking systems. Could anyone potentially help me out with this over DM?
vague shoal
https://puu.sh/AoCK2.png This is kinda cool
that flattened cube on the left has a scene capture 2d component attached to it, the cube is just for preview; the neat thing is that I've managed to get the render target texture into OpenCV, which is what is being seen in that little window to the right.
unreal spoke
Can I put variables in the World Settings tab?
vague shoal
There is a definite possibility that you may or may not be be able to achieve that.
(I haven't a clue)
vague shoal
A quick googling tells me that it would be difficult to do, and for very little payout.
unreal spoke
ok, then how can I expose variables from the level blueprint? (in World settings maybe....)
grim ore
you really don't. Level blueprint is really really not used for most things anymore. What is in the level BP that you need to expose?
quaint karma
What makes you say the level blueprint isn't used anymore?
grim ore
I never said it wasn't, I said it really really is not used for most things
plush yew
@frank escarp whats wrong with turbosquid?
grim ore
the level bp is a holdover from UE3 and most of it's intended use is in other places now
plush yew
Guys what happened to my level
manic pawn
zoomed out extremely far maybe?
plush yew
how can i fix
manic pawn
click one of the things in world outliner and press f
plush yew
Oh ty
unreal spoke
@grim ore @quaint karma I'm trying to put variables for the music of each level and I want to do that per level
grim ore
you have other options. you can put a music blueprint in the level that has that info. you can use the game mode as a central place to hold all the music for your game. you can use the game instance or state to do that as well.
game mode might not be a horrible idea if you have one game mode as it's one place that can store all the music so it's easy to change out without going thru each level.
where do you have the music being played/selected from? can you put it in that for each level?
unreal spoke
Hmmm, game mode doesn't sound bad I guess. What do you mean "where"? It's a sound wave imported in my project.
grim ore
well you said you want to put variables for the music of each level. How are you playing the music?
unreal spoke
Right now it's a varaible in the Level BP, I'm creating the sound component, playing the sound and adjusting the volume. But I'll add support for more musics according the gamestate. IDeally I wanted to pass the gamestate a few varaibles with the sounds waves that I want to use in that level and it would play them when required.
Also is possible that at the end the audio guy will be one changing those variables per level, so the simpler the better.
grim ore
so the level BP is handling the entire thing? choosing the sound and playing it?
plush yew
Unreal + Engine = 4
grim ore
and it sounds like your goal was to just expose the sound variables to make it easier than just opening the level bp up?
grim ore
gotcha. well as far as I know you can't really expose anything from the Level BP to the details as it really does not exist, that's the downside of it. You could always look into making an actual BP Actor, BP_MusicSystem or something like that, that handles the entire system for you. This would let you drop one per level, expose any variables to the editor, and it could handle it all from there.
other than that since you are handling it all in the level BP, choosing and playing, it's really only an extra click to get to the variables right now so is it worth changing it?
the biggest issue is having to duplicate all the code across each level
which is where a standalone BP would be a benefit
elfin jacinth
Hey everyone: we're seeing an issue with the Unreal Engine forums. Our teams have been notified.
vague shoal
Thanks for the update Tim.
unreal spoke
@grim ore Thanks, I'll try that
plush yew
@plush yew mentor pls
Use your creativity
@plush yew
nah
maybe after i finish docs
do i have a chance to get a steam sale if im not a total pro?;D
livid haven
That's putting the cart so far ahead of the horse it's wrapped around the other side of the planet and hit you in the back, methinks.
Baby steps.
plush yew
will i be able to copy single game to multiplayer game after i learn UE4 enough?
because my intent is mmo but i wanna start single player to learn
livid haven
Absolutely not.
Stardew Valley is a simple game. They've spent years taking that thoroughly singleplayer game and rewriting it to work as a multiplayer game.
plush yew
wow
so i cant even copy monster object?
what you thinking about lighting
and thanks to @plush yew for helps
livid haven
I have no idea what you're referring to as "monster object"
livid haven
Copy them how?
plush yew
idk
livid haven
If you don't understand what you're asking, how am I supposed to answer it?
grim ore
start small, make s simple 200 hour RPG project then try and branch out into an MMO.
plush yew
the object
with monster
@plush yew how many experienced on ue4?
none'
i have it launched but i read docs
after i finish i try to create rpg
I recommened you read a page of docs and do what doc says
livid haven
Trying to make an RPG is still orders of magnitude too complex to start
There's a reason the Gameplay Ability System has justified having its own channel.
I'd say try to recreate some simple games first, to get your bearings.
plush yew
nah i made cool rpg in game maker
althrough i didnt release it
it was really dope
i can repeat
livid haven
GameMaker != UE4 in 3D
plush yew
oh
yea but i found unity similar to gamemaker
rpg will be simple i think
worse is mmorpg
livid haven
๐คท
grim ore
for the viewport or the camera?
plush yew
i dont know matthew
hey whats up with unreal engine this week, its just not behaving at all today
im passing a valid reference into a function, which has worked thousands of times before yet it keeps saying returned none and doesnt work
my gess is this is something that u cant do in the vanilla build of ue4 and i've ben taking it for granted as we've been using a custom engine most of this time
livid haven
"whats up with unreal engine this week" - I don't think time is a factor here...
plush yew
im messing with it in spare time i just cant get it working here at home
livid haven
Nor does this change based on whether you have a source build or not.
You're going to have to be a lot more specific with exactly what you're doing and how it isn't working.
plush yew
thats a spring arm, and all i have inside the function is a blank set relative rotate and i pass in the function, this is in character blueprint
well the source build we use at work is highly customized, since our engine programmers back i can ask him monday but wondered if this is just something you guys have to work around
I've set up 2 fully working character movement systems, yet on the binary build on my pc at home i cant even get this lol
livid haven
You're just passing an object in to a function.
plush yew
oh ok so u cant do that
plush yew
lol our engine programmer has made it so u can
oh man thats a giant pain in the behind
plush yew
says righthere its not working
i
I've set this up several hundred times before its just not working here, now on the standard build on a capable enough pc
i could go back to work and set this up right now but i only got in an hour ago so yeh im not going back in til tuesday, figured i'd throw something together over the weekend
livid haven
Promise you that your engineers didn't invent the ability to pass objects to functions
And you're just doing something wrong.
plush yew
well i dont know whether he did, but being this is something I've used A LOT the last few months, coming home and using the binary build and it not working says to me that this is something that cannot be done this way
livid haven
It's telling you that Viewpoint Root isn't set to anything.
Your conclusions don't make any sense.
The idea that you can't pass objects to functions in UE4 except in a custom build is sheer madness.
Literally nothing would work in blueprints.
grim ore
this always seems to happen with your special build compared to the launcher build. might be time to just not try to use the launcher build.
grim ore
breakpoint the function and start walking thru it till you find the error
plush yew
it works just fine if i dont put it in a function
i've deleted and made anew but same problem again
livid haven
You need to debug what's going on more closely.
grim ore
so you debugged it to find out what was wrong and fixed it? or just uh didnt?
livid haven
Print out what the self object is, print out what the Viewpoint Root object is.
Before the function and inside the function.
grim ore
debug the shit out of that thing like you were a programmer
cinder spade
So I'm trying to access the UE4 source code via github. I linked my account but it's still not letting me access https://github.com/EpicGames/UnrealEngine . I tried unlinking, relinking, logging out and back in.. Can't seem to get it to work for some reason. Anyone know what's wrong?
glossy flame
Are you in the Epic organization? (on GitHub)
That's what actually gives you access to the repo.
I believe you get an email about it when you link them in your Epic settings.
plush yew
"The binary build of Unreal Engine doesn't support passing certain components into functions"
aha there's my problem, saw it on an old reddit thread
will do this the old way then :p
cinder spade
Did not get an email about it, but I do now see an invite to join the organization. Thanks.
livid haven
@plush yew Still think you're wildly misunderstanding something.
idle mantle
ddr3 32 go + 1060 6 gb for 450$ it is a good price and a good config for ue4 ? (secondhand computer)
fallow heath
It'd be plenty unless you're doing some insane stuff.
keen frigate
Hey everyone ๐
fallow heath
Got a question regarding projectiles and replication. Am I better off replicating the spawning of a non-replicated projectile by multicast, or spawning a replicated projectile on the server? I'm attempting to do some very basic latency compensation by letting the calling client have it's own dummy projectile that fires immediately. With the multicast method, it works perfectly, but I don't think it's a great fit for projectiles with state (Sticky grenades, etc) or with weird physics like homing or bounces. Does anyone here have some good guidance on what to do in this situation?
hasty owl
Do the "Get Mouse Position" and "Set Mouse Position" Nodes use different methods of measuring the screen? Cause i set the set from the get and it still moves down the screen for some reason >.< The Get outputs X and Y floats whereas the Set inputs X and Y Integers.
frosty bloom
@plush yew The "The binary build of Unreal Engine doesn't support passing certain components into functions" Refers most definitely to the difference between Camera Component, Skeletal Mesh Component, Primitive Component, Spline Component, Static Mesh Component & all the other ton of Components. It only means that you can not pass any component into any node, some nodes are asking for a Specific Component ONLY and any try to connect wrong type of components into it will be rejected.
plush yew
oddl;y enough a restart of my pc seems to have a fixed it
frosty bloom
Sweet, glad you got it fixed. Just to add, communication between classes in BP requires that you know what you are doing. Blindly trying to plug & play stuff into echother will result in situations like before, were you believe it is completely impossible to do it in binary build (when it, in the matter of facts, works just fine). : - )
plush yew
gta IV quality
random forum
Not sure what that means ๐
random forum
Don't take LSD and game dev, kids ๐
plush yew
its has good graphics
and effects
but i wouldnt buy it no offence
just being honest โค
random forum
Thanks, I appreciate it ๐
plush yew
it lacks depth
plush yew
but i require a lot from game
even fortnite is nono for me
so someone can actually buy it
good luck
random forum
Cheers :]
frosty bloom
@random forum Love the music, spot on! Gave me the retro vibe, same as from games I played during my childhood ๐
random forum
Yeah! I grew up on NES/SNES so I was going for that high difficulty arcade game vibe ๐
frosty bloom
Sure looks like it, reminds me of a game I can't remember the name of (tho that was 2D)
Anyhow, great work! Looking forward to see the final product!
fierce tulip
< shmup lover here, looks interesting @random forum
if I may suggest a feature, or suggestion in general is to try and get more distinction between background and playfield. either by (optionally) set how visible the grid is, or get some more depth going by adding asteroids
random forum
@fierce tulip I was actually thinking about creating an optional Focal point effect that would change the focal point of the camera lens. It's a great effect - I just don't think EVERYONE would want it enabled. I should also create a hex transparency option as well.
Thanks for the feedback! ๐ ๐ ๐
fierce tulip
some buddies have been working on a space shmup for past 5 years or so, lemme try and frind their twitter acount for awesome visual inspiration
random forum
oooOOOOh that would be great!
digital anchor
theres plenty of bugs when i tried to play with a controller
Input configuration not working correctly, when setting one button others get reset
could not use the menu with a controller
could not rotate screen with a controller
the inputs are inverted for some reason from what i set on the configs, and it wont move forwards and backwards
fkrking
@random forum tagged wrong
random forum
@digital anchor - That's really helpful feedback, actually. I'm a mouse and keyboard user so I'm going ot have to dig up the XBOX controller and beta test everything. Thank you, kindly.
digital anchor
๐
plush yew
takain bought game?
digital anchor
yes
plush yew
why am here in friday night
fierce tulip
https://twitter.com/superverse_game @random forum
Twitter
plush yew
latest hopkins theory was that universe is finite and quite small
fierce tulip
random forum
Man, looks so good!
plush yew
thats topdown 3d
fierce tulip
talented people plus years of work
random forum
Seriously. Major props. I'm confused though, is it 2D axis?
Hmm... I can't wishlist Superverse on steam??? o_O
random forum
Well, they should at LEAST have their "Coming Soon" store page open on Steam. It's only $100 to setup...
fierce tulip
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
bitter iris
How would I go abouts creating a blueprint that has a drop down to select which house to be placed? I have built 25 houses with interior items and Im wondering if you could put it inside of 1 BP and select which house
dunno if i worded that poorly
random forum
#blueprint channel
fierce tulip
cunning umbra
I'm feeling stupid and demotivated today. I just don't have the energy to work on a simple math problem.
It's really simple too: "Given an eye position and an actor position, what should we use for a given rotation for a billboard, such that a plane is always facing the eye?"
I know how to solve it, I just don't feel like it. ugh.
sigh..................... the difference between being a mediocre person and an extraordinary person is that the extraordinary person consistently pushes through while the mediocre person consistently gives in to the easy path.
today is friday. it's my last day to get anything meaningful done this week. I won't have time to work on the weekend, and monday will suck even more than today if I leave this hanging. I gotta get this dumb stuff done and out of the way. I'll go get a motivational coffee and maybe do some pushups and then demolish this
livid haven
Honestly surprised there isn't a LookAt function in the framework somewhere
But it's as brain dead as (To - From).Rotator()
Which is just giving you the rotator that would point in that direction, without any roll applied.
Since there are technically an infinite number of orientations that said vector could represent, due to roll.
cunning umbra
yeah, I was just thinking I had already put something like that into my game function library and was surprised it wasn't in there. It's too easy to solve, so maybe that's why I skipped it?
livid haven
Probably.
cunning umbra
I've solved this dozens of times and each time I'm like, "hmm, is it from the eye to target? or from target to eye? I forget. And do I do rotation from X? or rotation from y?
cunning umbra
yeah, target to eye. I have to come up with a easy neumonic for remembering it
"grab the target and bring it to your eye, that creates the direction vector you want." or something like that
grim ore
There is the find look at rotation node
cunning umbra
in the kismet math lib?
yep, found it
anyways, i got my motivational coffee now and I'll bust out some pushups and get back to work
idle mantle
@cunning umbra You drink coffee at 8 PM ? ๐ฎ
cunning umbra
I'm on the west coast, so it was 4pm for me... but last night I had coffee after midnight.
idle mantle
Coffee before bed is such a good Idea ! coffee make you sleepy
inner yacht
my line trace fails . It hits but wont show the ai Hud until i get really close . any ideas to fix this?
i got multiple traces off of the player controller
all work well but this one for enemies hud
Looks like this Is something wrong?
grim ore
put a breakpoint on the branch after the trace and see what you are hitting
acoustic crater
Anyone here familiar with this #issue?
LogStats: Warning: MetaData mismatch. Did you assign a stat to two groups? New //STATGROUP_Threads//FUdpMessageProcessor.Sender///Thread_5156_0///####STATCAT_Advanced#### old //STATGROUP_Threads//FUdpMessageProcessor.Sender///Thread_514a_0///####STATCAT_Advanced####
After Packaged to android it was working fine. But, When I tried to login with Google Play Service. It Failed with above error. ๐ฃ
plush yew
Hi everyone, when I went to open my UE4 Project there was a option saying "assets were open when the Editor was last closed, would you like to restore them now", I ticked "Restore Now" and "Don't show this message again". But the thing is, it didn't restored at all. Everything disappeared. Does anyone know how I can restore them now?
acoustic crater
Its better you uncheck the "Don't Show this message again" on "Restore Now" . Because, It wasn't properly restoring if that options didn't show up
rustic panther
that just reopens whatever you had open last time you had the editor loaded
acoustic crater
I do that Restore Now option always to avoid that
rustic panther
it doesnt restore anything thats when it crashes and you didnt save something
pretty sure that says Reopen not restore
acoustic crater
Actually, It restores that number of options/tabs you opened while working before. As @rustic panther said it wont restore other than this
plush yew
Thanks for the reply guys. I saved everything before closing the project and now everything disappeared basically. All my assets were removed. There's no option to restore everything now?
rustic panther
because sequences don't open automatically
plush yew
It opened the sequence, but the assets got removed
rustic panther
which assets
did you rename them or move them somewhere
maybe that might have messed that up
tired island
looking for 3d artist who knows how to import assets and levels and
nobody found yet
quite sad
๐ฆ
plush yew
I was opening a whole different project... Think it's time to go to sleep xD (2 AM here already). Thanks for the help anyway @acoustic crater and @rustic panther ! Really appreciate it.
rustic panther
haha it's always something obvious
spring arch
Hello guys. Is there a way to lock Nvidia Flex Particles to 2d space? I want to create 2d water. I will apreciate any help. Thank you.
round bloom
In Most particle Systems, You can lock the particles so that they don't move in a particular axis. So you don't have any z axis movement and boom, 2d plane of water
spring arch
@round bloom thank you for the answer, I have tried to find that kind of stuff but no result so far.
plush yew
Blueprints or C++ ?
anyone know any reason why root motion wouldnt work even though your root bone is moving?
astral pond
does particles has something like local space overtime?.. would be awesome do force them to use local space for a small amount of time
spring arch
@plush yew Blueprint ๐
mint raptor
Does the Camera from the CameraManager not have PostProcess settings or does?
cinder spade
Is it better to make a basic game first then worry about multiplayer or build the entire game around multiplayer? I've fiddled with UE4 in the past but haven't done anything to this extent. (Mostly the multiplayer part.)
weary basalt
Multiplayer is not something you add on after the fact (at least not easily) if you want to support Multiplayer you MUST start building with that in mind from the beginning.
cinder spade
Thanks.
acoustic crater
no one responded before. So again asking the same
Anyone here familiar with this #issue?
LogStats: Warning: MetaData mismatch. Did you assign a stat to two groups? New //STATGROUP_Threads//FUdpMessageProcessor.Sender///Thread_5156_0///####STATCAT_Advanced#### old //STATGROUP_Threads//FUdpMessageProcessor.Sender///Thread_514a_0///####STATCAT_Advanced####
After Packaged to android it was working fine. But, When I tried to login with Google Play Service. It Failed with above error. ๐ฃ
keen frigate
morning people ๐
plush yew
wuts up sut
lavish garden
good mourning!
plush yew
@cinder spade i also make a mmo or at least i plan to do so
plush yew
I'm looking for way to open level with loading player stats and without
I already made save/load functional
And loading on BeginPlaye of player character
strong hornet
Is there a tutorial out the on clamping the max length of a cable actor?
keen frigate
@plush yew not much working on some AI stuff
plush yew
im doing level design (still) tired out. almost done. level 18 of 24 ๐
sullen sonnet
cinder spade
@plush yew oh cool. ^.^
plush yew
guys, how to pass condition for loading game after calling OpenLevel?
sullen sonnet
^ i want to know that too
plush yew
Because in games you can LoadGame with some "default state" and with "saved state". Not just double opening level, but open level with loading
buoyant mesa
can ue4 still not import pivots right with meshes that are build with multiple objects?
I dont really like workflow of importing each piece centered in world space center, when unity does this automatically
tall pendant
perhaps you should use Unity then...
buoyant mesa
its like I need to rebuild my object inside ue4 every single time which is not very fun or efficient, doesn't anyone else feel this is just stupid and unreal team has to do same thing that unity?
tall pendant
nope.
buoyant mesa
Ok, I just pointed my point of view, its fine if you disagree ๐
plush yew
anyone making survival game?
@buoyant mesa You just have to either use "Import Into Level" from the file menu or UNCHECK the "Transform Vertex to Absolute" checkbox in the import window. The first method will actually also place the objects into the level at the right positions. the second method is doing the "zero-out" step which you would do in your 3D software but also keeps the pivot at the right position. you can try this? might help.
what i usually do though is to combine the entire mesh into one object in the 3d program, and import it as one block for my level. then i place all the level meshes / pawns manually or spawn them using triggers.
zenith lily
Hey quick question, migrating mainly basic materials, textures and static mesh (and a level) from 4.19 to 4.15 would that work?
tired oracle
Is there a way I can migrate a level into a project, but not have it bring all my characters and animations and all that with it? I just want the level and the meshes and all that
buoyant mesa
Thanks gothic for the info but combining mesh into one is not an option since I wanna keep those separated pieces and build different variations with them as well. Its just odd that there is no way to import multi object mesh as a complete model and still regain their corresponding pivot points.
plush yew
@tired oracle ctrl+c in source project outliner and ctrl+v in destination project outliner
@buoyant mesa hope you stick with unreal whatever you do ๐
tired oracle
the world outliner?
plush yew
buoyant mesa
I gotta try out that transform vertex to absolute option thought
plush yew
i was able to sel items in that part there jtxp, i copied stuff over to another project once - worked for me.
buoyant mesa
I will stick with unreal because all the other stuff is perfect only this one thing is kinda annoying me, but I'm trying to find solution maybe some addon or something...
lyric owl
Hi. Why my material previews so dark? 4.19
plush yew
@tired oracle just tried it. you have to do one extra step to get it to work.
brighten your monitor @lyric owl
lyric owl
Lol
tired oracle
Okay
plush yew
you have to select the static mesh in the content browser that the assets make use of
migrate the static mesh asset or blueprint asset the mesh has to to the new project
tired oracle
ok cool thanks
plush yew
then you can select the static mesh in the outliner, ctrl c, and ctrl v in the new project
tired oracle
I copied it over, but for some reason my Edit tab is super slow now. Do I need to clear cache?
plush yew
could be you have two isntances of ue open at same time or cache yes. try closing and opening or closing one ue instance
silent kraken
@sullen sonnet why did you post a Twitter status update. That is literally advertising your game
tired oracle
restarting didnt work, ill try clearing
yeah i dunno man i cleared cache, restarted, still lagged out
edit tab freezes the engine
plush yew
guys, how to pass variable into new level while OpenLevel?
It is my task for today
And it's 21:17 already
teleport ?
the object with variables
plush yew
@plush yew are you talking to me?
yes
How can I pass variables into this object if I can't affect at objects from anotehr level
It's simple.
no clue
I dunno why there is no basic functionality in UE
I know, there is Options input
But I can't get access to it.
Common, nobody knows? Nobody uses saves?
tired oracle
its 2:30am not a lot of people awake
whole quarry
@plush yew you can use the GameState blueprint to share information accross levels
plush yew
its 11:40 am here
fossil ore
Does anyone know how to disable that string ?
I don't even remember enabling that in first place...
plush yew
mentor me please @fossil ore
fossil ore
plush yew
no i mean overall
meager berry
Hey guys, I have a really weird issue in the editor
My camera is always sliding to the left no matter what I do
And the FOV doesn't reset when releasing Z
The editor is pretty much no usable for me these days and I can't find any answer on the forums, maybe I'm not using the good terms?
plush yew
maybe ur keyboard or mouse has always certain button pressed
meager berry
That's what I thought, but it doesn't happen in any other software
fierce tulip
@meager berry i wanna bet some controller connected to pc is causing that
wouldnt be the first time for me hehe
plush yew
atmospheric fog is not adding any effects in my case
meager berry
Thank you
plush yew
kera thats quite often the case
meager berry
Never happened to me, and I've been using UE4 since the beta
fierce tulip
my cat tends to sleep on my xbox controller and it wouldnt be the first time she messed up my scene
meager berry
Thanks a lot
plush yew
what is atmospheric fog supposed to do?
fierce tulip
it adds atmospheric (distance) fog
plush yew
but i have same effect with or without
fierce tulip
then its disabled
fierce tulip
https://twitter.com/Assault_Spy/status/997785972799504384 i love this persons work
plush yew
effects are good but graphics is too legoish imo
thats why quite big field of people cant stand robocraft but otherwise would play it
fierce tulip
you have no idea what a vertical slice is right? :p
plush yew
no
fierce tulip
then you are not allowed to give your opinion :p
(vert slice is a small piece of your game you are testing out)
its just a test
tired oracle
lol
plush yew
unless he added these graphics for lulz
paper kernel
I've seen his actual gameplay maps
they are pretty cool
tho I'm not into spectacle fighters myself
tall pendant
But usually vertical slices do feature final or at least near final art etc
its mostly used to get funding from people who might not understand gamedev at all
plush yew
Hi
tough ridge
If you look at the picture a white square is around the play box
i cant do anything in scene view or play mode
just happended randomly
plush yew
hmm maybe format disk
plush yew
ohh
tough ridge
not sure what happened though
plush yew
usually i just format C:
if i cantfix something
Guys why everything looking like this
tough ridge
grass shaders havent compiled
plush yew
what is replication?
how can i compile
North bro
Just pretend that these are stones
grass
wow the ue4 graphics are so good ootb https://i.imgur.com/n17pUwy.png
pine parcel
Does anyone here use the UnrealVS plugin? I'm getting the error 'C:\Program' is not recognized as an internal or external command' am I missing a configuration value somewhere?
viral herald
