no luck been a while
#ue4-general
lament sand
dark sparrow
is there a way to clean up a project by removing unused assets?
livid haven
You could try to use the cooking logic to identify what assets are being cooked, and invert that set to know what isn't used.
If there's a better, more readily available tool out of the box, I do not know it.
dark sparrow
ok i will try that
livid haven
Granted, I just gave you a very general direction to go in - unless you're super comfortable and confident in looking at all this code and figuring out how it works, it's not all that actionable.
I know that internally we use the content browser collection system, and we update some special collections that contain all cooked content.
pallid compass
you could hook
the validation in too the reference tree
and see what its being used by
Wont give you whats in game
But it will give u a god dam good idea of if something is not being used
livid haven
So we know, after some kind of automation, what the most recent set of known cooked content is.
pallid compass
But u would really need to know wtf u where doing
dark sparrow
i dont know what im doing lol
pallid compass
Then you need search and purge ur project your self
Lesson learned of not importing and managing what you actually need
its an important part of games dev
tame flint
i am trying to get a reference to my enemy which is an class: enemyspike and parent class: actor, but I cant
pallid compass
thats not really any info to help u
inner yacht
Hi , I was told to come here to ask why my mobile packaged game joins the dedicated server but crashes when join is successful. I had it working Before i recently added child actors. Also how could I use Visual Studio Debug?
dark sparrow
@pallid compass what lesson is being learned here? importing assets from the marketplace doesn't exactly let you pick and choose what to omit at the time of importing. the obvious solution is to go through it yourself which is why i asked if there were alternatives.
livid haven
Yeah, even if you try to manage stuff, you'll eventually have some assets end up being slowly replaced and "orphaned".
I mean, imagine how many assets are created each day in Fortnite.
woeful oar
Hi, are all Player Controllers supposed to be Role_Authority on the server? I thought one was owned by the server and the rest were owned by the client?
crisp fable
anyone know when the networking improvements discussed at GDC from Fortnite will be integrated?
4.21 or what?
weary basalt
Pretty sure it will be in 4.20
As far as i was aware 4.20 was getting most of the network improvements.
I could be wrong.
crisp fable
cool
ionic oxide
Any estimate date for 4.20?
woeful oar
Hey @crisp fable you said earlier that the client owns their own player controller. Does this mean when I loop through the PlayerControllers on the server that all Player Controllers are supposed to be Role_Authority and HasAuthority()? Not trying to rope you into a discussion or anything, I'm just very confused about this one aspect that seems to contradict the docs.
glossy flame
The server has authority on all replicated actors.
woeful oar
So, yes?
How would I SetOwner() if I have to use an actor that's owned by a client but all objects (including PlayerControllers) are owned by the server forever and always?
glossy flame
It's not owned by the server.
The server has authority on the object.
Ownership and authority are two separate topics.
late adder
So, me and a few friends have been working on a Project in 4.14 for a few months, entirely in Blueprints.
Is there an easy way to convert it all into C++?
worn granite
for you to use as normal C++?
Or do you mean like export to C++?
1: no
2: yes, google ue4 nativize BP
late adder
Use as C++. Basically make the project from a 'Blueprint Only' Project into a 'C++ Only' Project.
worn granite
no, there's not a supported way other than to manually port it
plush yew
Can someone please help me with this?
elfin stream
Absolute beginner in unreal switching over from unity after 3 years. Where do I start?
crisp fable
@woeful oar thats right the client owns the playercontroller, lethalclips aint right
note that authority and ownership are two different things
actual lethal is right
actually now im confused
sorry, you'll have to test it
woeful prawn
Hey I downloaded 4.14.1 and it crashes with this error on startup LogWindows: Failed to load 'aqProf.dll' I searched google and it says to download a driver is this true?
gentle ivy
is this what you are seeing? https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/731556/do-i-need-to-worry-about-these-missing-dlls.html
gentle ivy
have you tried simply reinstalling the engine?
woeful prawn
It takes 7 hours on my wifi lol
gentle ivy
well the thing you can try before hand is running setup/prerequsites.exe
should be somewhere on your computer
you should also just try rebooting completely and then relaunch epic launcher then launch the engine through that.
that all fails, there is a verify function in the epic launcher
should download the parts if missing any
woeful prawn
ok tysm for all the help
Im now getting this
File build somthing somthing ran out of memory
woeful prawn
It started to download somthing so does that mean there was somthing missing?
thorny cipher
4.19 and 4.18 received the net improvements
from fortnite
more are coming in 420
@crisp fable
woeful oar
@crisp fable Thanks! I was definitely thinking they were the same thing.
grim sinew
Wait, Blender didn't have UDIMs? Seriously?
woeful prawn
Um I still get the missing driver error
woeful prawn
should I just install a lower version?
modern kite
(Sorry idk which channel i should use for the purpose) I packaged my game and gave it to some beta testers. One of them told me that he can't run the exe it says that he can't run the code because X3DAudio1_7.dll is missing. If anyone knows a solution please contact me
devout gulch
@thorny cipher hardly improvments
that commit mainly focused on HTTP api
probably to improve service handling over REST
thorny cipher
the actual netcode was optimised, and we got new net profiling shit
4.18 exposed dormancy to bp
unkempt isle
thorny cipher
your country tax number
woeful oar
Is there a way to send information out from the Server but only to clients who don't own the Actor?
Or is there anyway to send information across the network in Unreal that isn't RPC or a replicated variable?
frank escarp
@coarse wigeon Lukas joining in? holy shit yes. he is a wizard
@grim sinew UDIMs were done, but only in a company branch
i guess this is to integrate UDIMS into "real" blender
if im correct, Lukas was a hired coder for a medium tier animation studio (i think 50 employes?) he and other coders implemented features specifically for the movie needs
one of those was UDIM
@grim sinew they talk about it here
wrong one
grim sinew
That would be such a different show if it was called The Castle in the High Man
frank escarp
this is the guy who wrote the current denoiser in cycles
obsidian nimbus
high man in a castle
obsidian nimbus
that show was actually kinda cool
obsidian nimbus
nice filters
frank escarp
but now that he is joining as a "core" dev, he will port UDIM from their hacky internal implementation into a solid one
how interesting
they used amazon AWS as a render farm
obsidian nimbus
blender UV is allready kinda good 😛
dont need udim for jack
can allready put high res textures on part of the UV
frank escarp
you can emulate udims in blender with not much effort
but of course, native is better
as thats kind of the whole point
plush yew
ok, Solved. It was translucent
wild glacier
It's normal that a Widget can reduce the Framerate from 60 to 30 in 15seconds?
(In an empty map)
frank escarp
yesd
wild glacier
Seriusly?
viral herald
hey guys, my AI blueprint setup wont work
this is how it should work
any ideas?
i tried yesterday and couldnt find any answers
gaunt raptor
Why does my landscape turn black after i bake my lighting ?
fierce tulip
gaunt raptor
Luos my material is working just fine - it's only some parts and it only turns black when I try and bake my lights - if I use movable lights everything is just fine
fierce tulip
thats exactly what they say in those threads
did you paint that bottom layer, else its just a preview that gets removed after bake.
else --without any information from you-- nobody will know whats going on and itll be 100% guesswork
we'd need more info, and that can be a long list
from material to lighting settings, post processing, and a lot more
gaunt raptor
Ahh I see - I have 5 layers in my landscape material and you're right I just added some extra segments and I didn't paint everywhere yet.. So if I paint it over and bake again it should be fine?
gaunt raptor
I will give it a try! Thanks! Ripping my hair out because of this :p
fierce tulip
we've all been there with different things hehe
gaunt raptor
It's just so much information and things you need to understand - coming from Maya and zbrush into this had been a steep learning curve
fierce tulip
good practice though, as someone who still wants to delve into zbrush and houdini I know that frustration. lack of time and steep learning curve are a chips
gaunt raptor
Zbrush is fairly simple once you get over the ui layout etc. But houdini is a different beast :p
dull wraith
Trying to load the open world demo collection scotspine_01 as a foliage type but it keeps crashing the engine... Any help or alternatives?
fierce tulip
more ram, or export the textures and make em smaller are generally suggested
dull wraith
It's on a college computer (in a Games Development course) so can't get any more RAM but I'll try the second option
fierce tulip
shrudder
dawn linden
Saw a talk on Houdini in Berlin, he mentioned they were aware of the learning curve, looked like they were genuinely simplifying the workflow for a lot of stuff.
dull wraith
Nvm, this is the 7th time I've tried to do this in the past hour (following the Procedural Foliage guide) so I think I'm going to move on and focus on making a random encounter feature (making a turn based JRPG set in a forest)
fierce tulip
id try to work with the rig you have instead of against, there is a lot of free mobile content on mp/learning tab
frank escarp
@dull wraith they are starting to actually have tutorials
they released a very nice "basics" book
when i got houdini a few months ago, no such thing existed
i tried to find tutorials and i couldnt find shit in the official pages
had to go to 3rd party youtube stuff
gaunt raptor
There isn't alot of third party stuff for houdini tho - at least not quality stuff
frank escarp
there is
if you are good with paything a fuck ton for tutorial
the state of houdini learning is absolutely terrible
and the program is extremelly complex
dull wraith
Yeah, just seen the Open World Demo video on YouTube made back in March 2015
gaunt raptor
Please point me in the right direction then - Gnomon Workshop etc almost has no houdini content at all
frank escarp
pluralsight has some great ones
and there is a website called Game Tutors wich has very good noob content for procedural modelling for games
for free, its sponsored
woeful prawn
I reinstalled ue4 and it’s still saying I’m missing the driver
I’m so confused
LogWindows: File 'aqProf.dll' does not exist
sturdy star
Hello all, couldn't find any info in rules/guides, I'm wondering if there is a Nintendo Switch channel for discussing things with other Switch developers using UE4?
frosty bloom
@sturdy star There is no Platform specific channels on this Discord Server
fierce tulip
since most platform related stuff is hidden behind nda and other related contracts it wouldnt be wise to add those channels. no way for us (especially since its an unofficial channel) to see who and who doesnt have the right credentials.
would result in a bleepload of potential leaked information hehe
gray basin
any good placeholder enemy I can use for free to test my character's attack ?
obsidian nimbus
hmm, is there a fast way to turn the rotation of a single bone of an animation into a float track?
sturdy star
ok thanks @frosty bloom and @fierce tulip - understandable though.
tall pendant
@sturdy star there should be a section in the forums tho. For xbone and ps4 there is.
gaunt raptor
@fierce tulip tried to paint it over again 😦 same issue - half the landscape is still black - and half is doing exactly what its supposed to do
inner yacht
Any ideas why my game crashes on login via mobile. I Successfully login and see my character then the app crashes on my phone. Maybe my blueprints?
upper heart
Anyone else having issues debugging dmp files in 4.19?
upper heart
Possibly. I had them working on Feb 2017. But haven't had to debug many since then.
manic pawn
upper heart
ahh okay yeah those are the symptoms I'm having as well
manic pawn
just dumping those 3 files in in the binaries folder is not really a solution, because 1) we have no idea where they came from and 2) it prevents starting the game on windows 7
upper heart
I don't see any bugs opened around it at issues.unrealengine.com
manic pawn
epic must have found some workaround for fortnite but they have not shared it
pallid compass
best off asking sion when hes around
frosty bloom
New update for 4.19, hopefully I can actually use 4.19 after the update Fingers Crossed
pallid compass
im praying for you
hasty owl
"That action could not be completed. Please try again, and if this occurs again please contact the system administrator and tell them how you got this message."
How do i contact the system admin? Google has no idea, just tons of other people mentioning the same message.
north nova
anyone know is there a way to revert back to a previous save for the likes of a level or even the project in general
proud pine
@north nova you need source control for this, I believe
north nova
i see thanks
sturdy walrus
in case i have a serious question regarding the engine and i want an official response from who can i get it ?
manic pawn
usually the answer is "you can't"
you could try posting on the forum... maybe... or if it's a technical question you might get someone in this chat
sturdy walrus
well that is a bummer
well a signal that we extract data from it and translate it to a reasonable output (class) can we output it to a command such as (move left move right up down etc .. in unreal engine )
?
manic pawn
your question does not even make sense
sturdy walrus
i need an engineer that works in the unreal engine
manic pawn
he won't have time to try piecing together what you are even asking about
sturdy walrus
well at least we can try
inner yacht
Is there any known issues 4.16 after mobile login then the phone puts a black screen in background, I can see the character in game from my pc?
I had this working perfect but add some child actors repackaged and yupp...
pallid compass
looking for talent
hasty owl
dont think so, im trying to make an array shift down or up by one each time, but want an "If" of sorts to tell wether its at the end or beginning of the array, to loop it to the other end rather than push it off
if that makes sense xD
glossy flame
A branch makes decisions based on a boolean value. Are you asking how to get that boolean?
hasty owl
so like, "If index > array length then - length as well as +1
if false it just +1
just didnt want more exec lines everywhere 😛
glossy flame
A select might work there.
It takes in two values and a boolean and outputs a value based on that boolean.
hasty owl
its an index now 😛 so you can use like 10 pins in it if you want 😛
but you can still change to bool so would work
thanks ^^
brisk girder
Hey, new to the channel, I am attempting to create a "Disco Light" basically, a colored spotlight, that has a timed color fade, and rotates. I feel like it shouldnt be too difficult, and I have a BP I think should work, but its not working in the intended way. Anyone wanna give me some pointers?
obsidian nimbus
dont make it physics accurate
sharp tendon
Hey guys, can you explain me how to make a big world for a game like rust? Link me some videos or forums please? Thanks everyone! If possible, a detailed one, because I am really new to the engine. Thanks everyone!
obsidian nimbus
new to the engine should prolly try a small map first
worn granite
A detailed guide on how to make a big game world? Not sure any exist, so I'll get back to you in 5 years after I make one.
sharp tendon
let me see. Thanks for the answers!!
hot ledge
is it possible to make a widget in C++ and do the regular stuff you’d in blueprint like on pressed or clicked
silver crown
stiff crow
grim sinew
Whoo, finally. I hope this is the 4.20 rendering changes
shy heath
r there any good animators here who are willing to help with my western game if so dm me plz i will give you pay when the game is launched
hidden heart
make a post in looking-for-talent @shy heath
maiden swift
@shy heath The instructions for using #looking-for-talent are pinned to the channel.
hidden heart
no need to be a rude dude with a 'tude Mr. Hitler Pikachu avatar
hasty owl
Could anyone spare a few mins to help me find and/or fix the problem in my widget? Screenshare pref but can screenshot everything if needed.
devout gulch
loads of Vulkan changes
manic pawn
finally a rendering merge after like... months?
cinder iron
woo
devout gulch
yes but no groundbreaking changes
mainly bug fixing
Vulkan
and some optimizations
adding Dev-Core tp github is more interesting
maybe we will finally see more bracnhes pushed to git
manic pawn
https://i.imgur.com/T6Mvzks.png what's this
manic pawn
does this add rtx support
devout gulch
nope
manic pawn
https://i.imgur.com/pocDv5f.png I wonder how much of an effect this has
https://i.imgur.com/XaLpxwN.png what virtual textures
devout gulch
yeah well it's hard to find about those virtual textures 😄
north nova
ok so after trying for the past 3 hours i cant seem to open my project any more after i tryed to add source control in, after adding it in and setting the assets to commit the engine crashed and will no longer open for me even though i can compile it in visual studio just find with no problems but i still cant open it it just crashs each time
manic pawn
should have made a backup before playing around with large changes like that
regal mulch
north nova
the source control was to work as a back up and i need to fix this before tomorrow as its for a end of the year assignment
hidden heart
ooof
manic pawn
y would you do experiments with a thing that's due tomorrow??
north nova
i need to have it uploaded to the git for tomorrow
hidden heart
yeah I cant follow how that happened, good luck though
manic pawn
I wonder if it's finally fast now
north nova
is there a way to move the blueprints and the files to another project with out loosing everything
frank escarp
DR - vk - Copy from 3840663
Fix for layout ensure on HMD projects on Vulkan
vulkan vr coming
hasty owl
anyone know where i can ask for real time help?
lavish garden
depends, i'd try asking in the channle related to your topic..
also all answers here are in real time
hasty owl
i did ask in the channel related to my topic, it's still there from 7 and a half hours ago
hence me asking where else i could ask
grim sinew
That's just the nature of it. People sometimes just won't know the answer and don't reply.
Discord tends to be better for discussion than Q and A because of that, you're better off trying Answerhub.
hasty owl
i dont know how i would word the question, cause i know the problem, just don't know how to go around fixing it
and is it ok to post multiple questions in one day?
grim sinew
Just be reasonable, if people get annoyed at seeing the same question over and over they're less likely to help.
hasty owl
ofc, it's a different question, but related to the same blueprint is all
grave nebula
A question a day keeps mods away.
cursive dirge
@manic pawn I think engine has had virtual texture stuff since 4.16 on git but I never was sure if that's for some true virtual texturing solution or just some funky naming convention for their existing texture streaming
ok, since 4.17, remembered it wrong
I guess it's wip feature
after all, it's on the roadmap too
cedar snow
does ue4 support async texture upload to GPU?
for textures coming from external sources, like a webserver
rocky kayak
so my mage pawn has the damage calculations for his fireball spell but the actual projectile actor is the one adding targets to an array on overlap to be damaged, is there a way to get that actor array from the projectile actor over to the mage pawn?
storm venture
hey does anyone know of a good way to print out blueprints for an academic submission (paper) ?
i could screenshot them all and print it out but my printer is going to be sad about the dark backgrounds
plus it just looks absolutely unprofessional
worn granite
ayyyy i answered that first link
jaunty tinsel
hey, i updated my project to 4.19.2, and when i attach a weapon to the player, the weapon has some sort of lag in the transform update
has anyone experienced something like this?
safe rose
Well, I am having a few issues in 4.19.2
Random ass asserts getting thrown all over the place that weren't there before in 4.19.1
worn granite
hey man thanks for beta testing this one for us
pallid compass
Lmfao
this is why i aint budging off 4.19
Its all working, not gonna push my luck
jaunty tinsel
i had this same problem on 4.19.1, and i dont have a clue where this problem comes from
this is a copy though, my project runs fine on 4.18.3
manic pawn
how do you guys find all those bugs 🤔
jaunty tinsel
nice, i expect no less of that number
pallid compass
inb4 we get even more bugs
safe rose
Like...
How do you get an Asset from a BPFL
I only have one GameInstance...
Yet, it can't find it
plush yew
Pta wn
tame flint
if i am attaching a particle system to my character and activate it on a collision, how do I terminate the particle effect???
frosty bloom
ParticleTemplate->Deactivate?
zenith flower
4.19.2 works just fine over here... as usual...
Must be all that crazy c++ mixed in with bp's
xD
obsidian nimbus
zenith flower
I wonder... why can't it find it.... hmmmmm
pallid compass
Since when did they add a world context handle for GGI?
frosty bloom
Awesome, 19.2 not working either. Hope everyone is enjoying them Paragon Assets Watches from the sidelines as I cannot open any assets at all in 4.19
zenith flower
They didn't
I assume he put that into a blueprint function library or something that doesn't have context by default
pallid compass
pretty sure u can grab GI by controller
or some shiz
i use to do it all the time when u built a SQL interface system for a database
zenith flower
You can get GI from any BP that has ownership
pallid compass
Trying to remember what we did
Yeah something like that
was a year or so ago
cant really remember
zenith flower
The whole function itself just screams at me
So you still have to cast to the blueprint function library, and then call the get GI actual function, which takes just as much room as get instance, cast instance
obsidian nimbus
ill put my 420 eye at it... ya dats broken
zenith flower
Can you put your 4.20 eye at it?
obsidian nimbus
now it works
zenith flower
lmao
obsidian nimbus
i like ur logic on how not making a function is better
safe rose
You can use that
As I have
Always
And no issues 😃
It will get the current world context
Usually a BP
As it's source
BTW
You don't cast to the BPFL silly
You just get one node instead of two-three
Has nothing to do with complexity, just tidiness
obsidian nimbus
OCD!!!
safe rose
And easier to do in one BPFL, than trying to create the same function in every BP
I've been doing it just fine for years
Works great for me
pallid compass
sinning for years
safe rose
Until now 😃 But, it has nothing to do with World Context
pallid compass
something in 4.19.2 breaks everything anyway
zenith flower
It is too, unconnected?
safe rose
Nah
zenith flower
Well, we aren't blind
safe rose
K, I know you may think you know better
safe rose
No, because it works
pallid compass
Then its prob fine then
safe rose
It gets self automatically
plush yew
can someone help me out with this occlusion culling i believe it is called? i currently have a wall made of 200+ physics objects and if i turn around fast there are white boxes because the rendering needs to catch up, im looking for a way to eliminate that or atleast lessen it
safe rose
I know, it's not that. I was just plainly pointing a random thing that broke in 4.19.2 that worked before
It just threw some random Begin Play in a Teleport BP
How do you get an Assert on Begin Play?
I mean, I guess it's possible if you had something that some stupid loop
safe rose
?
I don't get your point
I know it's not that
I know I was right
But 4.19.2 is breaking random things
manic pawn
BPFL requiring a world context makes sense, since there may be multiple worlds and game instances in a PIE session, yet the BPFL only exists once
safe rose
For no particular reason.
zenith flower
Not sure how you assert on getting the GI
manic pawn
if you were making this method in c++ you'd expose the world context again in the parameters, dunno how to do the same in BP
safe rose
It can though
It works again
Like I was stating. Randomly since 4.19.2
Various BPs are asserting which never did before.
And shouldn't be.
4.19.1 and before == Works
4.19.2 random ass BP = asserting
obsidian nimbus
@safe rose was about to link of a youtube video on gameinstance u made, but u deleted it?
zenith flower
Just refresh all nodes, compile and save
obsidian nimbus
hmm could be, was a long time ago i checked it 😛
safe rose
Terrible one, I am looking at it now
Doing some rotation on timer instead of using a simple Rotation component
obsidian nimbus
40 min to get gameinstance and cast to gameinstance
obsidian nimbus
top notch stuff 😛
safe rose
Meh, I started doing some, and then got busy.
safe rose
And now I just stream Dev Work as I do it for most of the day
grim ore
hey 1 is good enough 😃 I only have one on my personal channel but it's a keeper lol https://youtu.be/Qv6bfFb427Q
obsidian nimbus
thats sums up epic games 😛
manic pawn
huh... why does that message above yours say reaction blocked?
manic pawn
very strange lol
safe rose
If Discord has it
worn granite
Yeah if somebody blocks you, you cannot react to their message
safe rose
Yeah but it doesn't say that
Usually it will spaz out a little
Shake the thing
But usually no message
Could be something new
obsidian nimbus
that alt f4 is just too good, i actually pulled that a few times
most ppl dont fall for it
safe rose
Haha, some people who even know it, just don't think about
hidden heart
it's muscle memmory for some people so it's easy to slip past
pallid compass
if u play enough room scape, u soon learn not to do it in the wildy or ever
"hey kid, want some addy plate for free?"
fierce tulip
@grim ore I actually tried getting Alex and ALT and an F4 pillow but they where so hard to get hold of that we ended up getting him a bobblehead
still cracks me up that video
worn granite
wonder if you could get him with it again
pallid compass
omg jesus
that video
10/10
god i fucking love alex
that is golden
i wish there was a super easy way to read array struct content while debugging
that be so handy
grim ore
safe rose
No, but I never thought about using Source Control on Launcher Versions 😉
I think this release will make me reconsider that
I am curious how that would work
grim ore
rename the old version before you hit update, or just make a copy of it, or use Github
pallid compass
I back my shit up every night for this reason
engine can do evil things
when some people rant
fierce tulip
is why I am still on 4.16 XD
pallid compass
"oh hur dur should always update, always most stable"
this is the shit im talking about lmfao
can fuck ur project's up
and even so not everyone remember's to backup everyday
fierce tulip
looking at twitter, facebook, answerhub, and forums 4.19 has been one of the biggest cf's so far
pallid compass
Because i dont sometimes
this is why im hanging on to 4.19.0 and wont move
it aint not working so im staying lmfao
fierce tulip
im worried that with niagara on the horizon itll only get more unstable
a no new features/stability only focussed month be nice.
pallid compass
U just gotta pray and back ur shit up and be safe
fierce tulip
always back up mah shit :p
pallid compass
This is where c++ to some degree becomes super fucking handy
its as hell to roll back
easy as*
wayyyyyyy dungeon gen now triangulates and shift's overlapping room's correctly
safe rose
Meh, has nothing to do with C++ or BP really
The Launcher should provide an easy way to rollback to whatevr version of the release you want
grim ore
technically it does they just dont support it on epics side. It would be nice tho. I ran into an issue with the latest 2017.4 release of unity the other day and had to go back one sub version and had no issues as they archive all releases on their download page. Would be nice to have that option for sure with the UE4 engine
pallid compass
the issue is when u open something and save it with a later version of the engine
Its easy to go from A to B from upgrade perspective
safe rose
Ah, that's true, but usually only so for Release
pallid compass
But going back is a pain in the fucking ass
safe rose
Main Release Version
pallid compass
I dont blame them for not doing it
safe rose
Not hotfix
grim ore
if you have source control on the project then it's not an issue
the problem is we have no way to go back on the launcher
safe rose
Also true
pallid compass
There is a big warning when u try and open ur project with a new engine version its like
HEY BOI
U BETTER BACKUP
safe rose
Having Source Control on a project does nothing in this case though @pallid compass ( as we are using Perforce)
It's the Engine Version that's the issue 😉
hotfix issue
grim ore
2017.4.2 for unity has an issue with the tilemap palette, 2017.4.1 does not. All I had to do to fix it was roll back my project and download the older version and install it side by side and fixed. You can't do that with UE4 😦
pallid compass
even if its a micro upgrade, u should be able to rollback if ur manage ur SC correctly, and kept sub branch's for any engine change
safe rose
Which currently I can no longer back out of
You can't rollback in Launcher version
Which is the issue 😃
pallid compass
u talking about not being able to go from 4.19.2 to 4.19.1?
safe rose
Aye
safe rose
Nope
pallid compass
can u get 4.19.0?
pallid compass
lmao
safe rose
Now you see the issue
pallid compass
u better pull ur self a nice github source then
safe rose
@pallid compass Looks pretty nice, For your 2D Dungeon?
pallid compass
Yeah it is
Generates room's, slides them out so non of them are overlapping
Triangulates points between all room's
then maps a connection network based on a value of how interlinked u want ur system to be#
safe rose
Looks nice. I need to work on something like that eventually. I have a nice book I was reading awhile back called Procedural Content Generation in Games
Made me some to do some ProcGen game
pallid compass
Not read it, good book?
safe rose
Yeah
And I think there's a free version online
I got the hardcover edition. It's pretty informative
pallid compass
il take a look if its good il pick up a book as well
oh shit i tried to do 1000 room dungeon gen
engine froze
LOL
nvm WE GUD
pallid compass
there is call stack viewer now 😮
safe rose
This is the shit I am talking about in 4.19.2
pallid compass
Did that bp come from ur previous version?
Sounds like some sort of migration clutter change
safe rose
my whole game
lol
Look, seriously. Something is not right in 4.19.2 and I would seriously advise people to hold off on it
pallid compass
Yeah something migrating over from pervious version,
dont forget the bp linker was wrote by over 60 people
its a cluster fuck in there
sinful umbra
@safe rose 
zenith flower
4.19.2 is just fine. Just make sure you "Refresh All Nodes", compile, and save everything thats acting up
safe rose
You says it's "just fine'
pallid compass
by the sounds of it
safe rose
But...
pallid compass
its really not fine
safe rose
It's not
safe rose
Like, I am glad it's working perfectly for you
pallid compass
Have u noticed there is a fuck ton of people who are always like
"its fine it works for me"
zenith flower
I never said I went perfect for me
zenith flower
I'm just used to the "if it worked before, and doesn't now, Refresh All Nodes, Compile and Save, every effected BP"
pallid compass
rolls eyes lets not even talk about the changes i made to my engine, im too scared to go up LOL
safe rose
That's another thing though. Why the heck do we have to do such a silly thing?
If they know it's going to break, why not make it to auto-refresh after an update
zenith flower
Because, Blueprint does a lot of upgrading for you, and its not perfect
safe rose
if that's even the issue
zenith flower
I want to see an automatic updater for your c++
pallid compass
wonder if u could add a function in too validation to recompile a bp and refresh nodes via c++
too lazy to deep dive engine
zenith flower
Would be nice for a "Refresh every node in project"
pallid compass
ey victor did i show u my auto tile i built in too the engine
safe rose
@pallid compass yeah man, I was very impressed, I want to buy it once that's polished 😉
pallid compass
man i dont even think i can sell it LOL
safe rose
Trust me...have you seen what sells in the MP?
pallid compass
Because its modified 2D plugin
pallid compass
However its very nice, it works off standard RPG maker data format, but the auto tile system is driven by Data tables, so u can override them and make ur own custom ones for custom tile set layout's so its flexible for your artists / different data rules for different tile set's
I mean i might be able to just override everything it touch's but the issue is i had too actually add variables too the classes and stuff
safe rose
Ah, yeah, if I were to really have looked at it
I would have probably based it off GameMakerStudio 2
Actually, if someone made an extension or completely rewrote Paper2D to be based off GMS2...so much money
pallid compass
I took the standard RPG maker layout, since it seams to be the most popular and robust, but the system is built to be very flexible with two data tables driving everything, Tile combination's & Target's for tile combo's
safe rose
It's just so sad that Paper2D died
Like there's been no meaningful efforts there in years
pallid compass
Yeah idk why they left it too die
safe rose
And they would make a lot of money if they invested in it
pallid compass
U know there's a fuck ton of stuff in there thats half wrote u cant turn on properly
unless u know wtf ur doing
safe rose
Because I think there are plenty of devs that wouldn't mind a solid 2D experience in unreal
pallid compass
There's tons of experimental stuff in there
safe rose
yeah, it was only one man's pet project
pallid compass
Sadly i cant really get round to doing that and selling it
safe rose
Mr Noland. RIP
pallid compass
I might have the potato brain info in the head for the 2D part but
The Slate and engine intergration
Is a whole another story
Looking at that shit is like looking at blueprints for the first time LOL
But i will get around too it, just never sat down with it yet
Apart from a few tweak's here and there
also the fact that my god, there is 0 fucking good doc for it
alpine leaf
So general question(s?), when I add an asset to my editor via dragging it in say, from my desktop. Beyond editing it, does UE4 keep a duplicate of the original file? If I edit the original file will it also edit within engine? If I delete the original will it disappear in engine?
pallid compass
With a uasset yes,
safe rose
But no, it won't delete it from engine if you delete from windows
pallid compass
When ever you import something it makes a copy of it in a uasset format
pallid compass
goes to bp too see if anyone needs help
Spagetti first thing i see
comes back to general
safe rose
lol
pallid compass
im too tired to explain all the bad things i seen with it
alpine leaf
Anyway to pull an asset from UE4 into it's original format? For example, the crosshairs from the default project, or a texture?
inner yacht
if i switch editor version will my server still run
pallid compass
if ur asking that i advice u dont
or i advice you back up
and try and find out
because im a lil unsure my self
inner yacht
k thx
dark sparrow
can anyone explain why Calculate Direction returns 90 when i'm not moving? and/or how to fix this?
slate cloud
Guys since 4.19.2 on certain maps my viewport has constant lag spicks occuring each second
Anyone else??
zenith flower
try playing with LOD settings in landscape, and tessellation LOD's
May not do anything, i'm curious if it does though
slate cloud
nope didn't help 😃
zenith flower
Make a copy of the map
zenith flower
And delete, half of whats in it
slate cloud
ahhh got you got you
zenith flower
if it doesn't go away, make another copy, and delete the other half
slate cloud
like reverse check 😃
zenith flower
(Hey, a misclick, is a misclick)
slate cloud
happens indeed
zenith flower
You could always, just do a delete all, and if it goes away, ctrl+z, and then just delete major stuff one by one ect
slate cloud
on it right now
zenith flower
kk
slate cloud
cause at a certain point
its just cripples your eyes working like that 😄
wtf!
ok this is my first Evo
made a copy
and issue is gone?!
yep thats my first
zenith flower
Okay, try this
Open the original map, open the blueprint part of it
and under File:
RefreshAllNodes
slate cloud
nope 😃
zenith flower
Usually, duplicating an asset, duplicates the bug
slate cloud
super strange
so copy works as intended
so i open back original
issue is back
open the copy
issue persists 😄
zenith flower
Well, screw why, do this:
Click MainMap
Delete
ReplaceReferences : CopiedMap
Done
hey
before that, I would click the Content folder, rightclick and fixup redirects
inner yacht
building source wish me luck for my server lol
drowsy fox
has anyone setup SDKS for android?
zenith flower
But I guess, you don't really have references to maps, just "Name"
zenith flower
You can just delete MainMap, and then rename CopyMap to MainMap
slate cloud
but stuck a bit now on loading ref pack
zenith flower
?
inner yacht
ty
slate cloud
😃
drowsy fox
takes notes @zenith flower
zenith flower
@drowsy fox Thanks, and I havn't done android yet, I wont know
drowsy fox
just having issues with missing api for apk but i have the sdk installed, but not all packages so im finishing that up now and trying again
slate cloud
ok one sec haha now the stupid copy started to act the same
drowsy fox
and i have the paths setup in the project settings
ill figure it out 😃 i always do lol
zenith flower
@slate cloud hmmmm.... is this the default loaded map, or are you loading it later?
slate cloud
loading later
zenith flower
@drowsy fox I always comb through about 15 tutorials, and put pieces together
Screenshot of where you load it?
Also, you could try renaming the map to something else, and just changing your Name variable to that map
slate cloud
actually not Evo :S
just found out
as longer as i use the viewport
as sooner it happens
hence why i didn't notice it after copying the map
opening another one and going nuts on the port to see difference
zenith flower
Only while you use the viewport? Or only while its visible?
zenith flower
Back to square one, copy and delete half ect
(Thats what you get for jumping the gun :P)
(It wasn't even smoking yet)
slate cloud
hahah totally allready on it
its definatly something inside the lvl
im doomed
need really to go half by half 😄
1600+ actors :S
zenith flower
O.O
slate cloud
yeah tell me that
my PARTICLES
they are caussing it!!!!
wtf?!
great....
Evo thanks man for assist 😃
alpine leaf
Where should I place lighting questions?
slate cloud
@zenith flower Finally man 😄
slate cloud
oh belive me it isn't the LOD 😃
zenith flower
I was messing around (I started with LOD's)
slate cloud
😄
zenith flower
You figure out whats up with the particles?
slate cloud
nope not at all
zenith flower
Wait for 4.19.3
slate cloud
you know cascade a bit? 😄
zenith flower
oh
slate cloud
48 particles
(sprites)
Gpu
...........
-.-
that 60 times in a lvl
how on earth can that lag the viewport?!
zenith flower
expect gpu... um...
um.... "trial by fire" over the next few itterations of ue4
They started with major LOD/Landscape improvements in early 4.19, and are moving over to mgpu, dx12 ect (I could be slightly incorrect here, but the point is, they are heavily working on gpu related stuff)
slate cloud
😃
zenith flower
Whoever made the Cardinal Menu project, you make me want to cry...
It looks great, and simple, until you open it up, and find out its all a bruteforced mess
Why?
Just why...?
And with that, goodnight yall
woeful oar
Is there a way to send information over the network that isn't RPC or replicated variables?
thorny cipher
cinder iron
Wasnt sympligon integrated on the 4.19 @thorny cipher ????
cloud cobalt
Doubtful about that since it's paid
tall pendant
@thorny cipher they're (Epic) are working on a replacement solution for Simplygon.
Which is good. Simplygon isn't that awesome anymore since MS bought them and put their "must own Windows X to operate" on it.
languid shard
wasn't simplygon partly integrated into the LOD system of the engine ?
or was it another system ?
tall pendant
its probably still is, if you own a license.
but doing a transition to a non simplygon solution is a good step
languid shard
for sure
cloud cobalt
My understanding was that there is a non-simplygon tool in UE4 right now
And you can also buy Simplygon, which may have been put into UE4 as a default engine plugin, which in turn requires a license
But I don't use it so I might be wrong here , would love a correction
grim sinew
The auto lod stuff by default is epic's own solution, Simplygon is still only a plugin.
cloud cobalt
Sure
Just checkout the previous revision
If you want to really remove it, checkout a revision, and force push it - it will make the server use the state of your branch as its own
Obviously this is dangerous and you should be very cautious
Since you talk about "github" I guess you're using the Github client, which sucks
coarse wigeon
Gitkraken is a awesome Source control software
viral herald
oh boy
man, there was a thing where if you jsut rightclick on the push
you can revert it
and @coarse wigeon what does gitkracken have that is better than github client
viral herald
best thing there, 1 click redo-undo XD
i actually used it before, but at the time, i was completely oblivious to what it was XD
cursive dirge
pretty sure I've used kraken on android phone to browse github
as web interface kinda sucks for that
I mean, to browse individual commits
idle sail
Is there a way to delete a reroute node with out deleting the link?
honest vale
gitkraken doesn't even work with UE 4 repo
in fact I can't think of any GUI tool that works with it
there's just too much stuff
round bloom
I think a real possibility for a lot of folks is they will release the game they'd been working on for years, and than barely anyone will play it.
😦
pallid compass
Not a possibility that is a fact
steady sequoia
Needa market
pallid compass
What?
steady sequoia
Marketing always helps
round bloom
Yeah Happened to my friend, I'm Like, Getting a market its like where do you even start?
WHERE?
steady sequoia
But ye, having a small playerbase is a very real possibility
round bloom
yeah thats true.
pallid compass
Because people try and make games with no marketing plan which is stupid af
steady sequoia
Yeah just dropping your game on a store with no marketing plan is doomed for failiure
round bloom
Bro, Its a bit more like, Negligent but yeah , stupid is like, they're just thinking it;l workout
viral herald
oh and guys
steady sequoia
It's something I want to try and experience and hopefully learn at some point
round bloom
Yeah, I'm not sure exactly what you can do in this day and age with marketing other than, trying to get others youtubers to promote it.
viral herald
is there a node like event beginplay only for the level instead?
steady sequoia
Trying to push a product to people
plush yew
@viral herald Level Blueprint should have a BeginPlay as well
round bloom
You are such a scrub @viral herald
cloud cobalt
Having a small playerbase is something to plan for. Most indies on Steam sell hundreds, not thousands. Granted, that's the lowest-quality indies, but you should probably wonder how great your game really is too.
viral herald
@plush yew i tried it, didnt want to work with me
steady sequoia
In my brain current methods I can think of are youtubers, blog pages for the game, asking friends to help spread word for you, and email media sites
viral herald
and @round bloom how?
steady sequoia
And that's also true Stranger
It's a lot less pressure if your game is a passion project and you don't need it to sell well
plush yew
@viral herald Well that's the node so you're probably doing something wrong
viral herald
maybe. . .
pallid compass
But u do need food to live
viral herald
though i cant seem to find it
pallid compass
U cant eat ur passion
viral herald
looks like i will be needing to recreate everything
steady sequoia
Ye I mean if you're not working fulltime on this game
viral herald
again
steady sequoia
And have some other fulltime job
round bloom
Its like so ez to make games with ue4, makes me wonder why every game ins't a masterpiece, like really well made and such.
steady sequoia
🤔
pallid compass
Welcome to engineering
plush yew
Cos like, it's really hard to like, make video games bro
pallid compass
Inb4 asset flipper
cloud cobalt
My personal take is that most media won't care about your first game, no matter what, no matter how. Big Youtubers also won't unless you know them well. Reddit, social media, work very well for small games if they're good.
steady sequoia
Try your best
cloud cobalt
Paying an editor can be worthwile because that opens the media access to some level
steady sequoia
Don't put all your chips in on the game selling
cloud cobalt
Your first indie game is definitely not getting reviewed by RPS, unless it's wildly good and amazing and it's selling like hotcakes already
Overall I wouldn't (and I didn't) bet on a first game being worthwile financially, it's more of a first entry to get a player base, some visibility, some experience
Unless you're really experienced already
round bloom
@cloud cobalt how good was your first game? Like i mean what could you do in it?
steady sequoia
Oooh neat
round bloom
@cloud cobalt I bert that made you 20k usd. I'd like to know , nice job btw game looks alright.
steady sequoia
I already have a full time job so I'm mainly just making small-ish projects with my friends during my free time
cloud cobalt
@round bloom We made less than that
wary wave
I bought that game, hehe
cloud cobalt
❤ @wary wave
Still in Early Access and fairly hopeful the release will sell some more. It's a passion project with a main job, so it's successful enough for me
steady sequoia
Ye that's really good then
round bloom
AYYY
cloud cobalt
I like my risk minimal
steady sequoia
Minimal risk is best
round bloom
Is your job com sci related?
steady sequoia
You can do pretty much whatever you want without too much pressure bearing down on you
round bloom
I mean cause thats cool if it is. If not Ehh,
cloud cobalt
Yeah I work in software, gaming-related
Great job too
Which I actually got based on experience from a previous, non-commercial game project
Successful project isn't always about sales
round bloom
Uh Save that wishy washyness, bro we all know if you got sales you'd be happier bro. I'm sorry but its true.
Like tons of sales.
plush yew
Yeah bro, don't like, deny it
cloud cobalt
First commercial game @thorny cipher
thorny cipher
neat 😃
cloud cobalt
@round bloom Well sure, It would be nice if it sold by the millions and I could get me a nice house with a sea view for me and the wife, not gonna deny that
What I'm talking about here is expectations and risk
round bloom
okay
wary wave
hmm, is there a way to run the game at a specific resolution when full screen?
I'm trying to use the console command 'SetRes 1024x768wf' as an example
round bloom
Lol I still respect you though, You have a lot more than most people on this chat @cloud cobalt
thorny cipher
yes amber
wary wave
and whilst it does go to windowed full screen, it's matching my native display res, not the resolution I'm asking for
thorny cipher
windowed fullscreen you cant change res
cloud cobalt
@wary wave wf is windowed FS, so it probably can't render at anything but that
thorny cipher
so it would be setres 1024x768f
wary wave
cheers, I'll give that a go
round bloom
Like, ANd the fact you released to steam with a mild population is something you should be proud of.
wary wave
yep, that works, thanks ^^
cloud cobalt
@round bloom The point I'm making here is that success is a relative concept, and the level of risk you're going to take should be based on that metric of success. Personally, I was okay with zero risk, I have a job I love and I'll be buying a flat soon, not going to invest any money that's not guaranteed to make a return. Not taking any risk like moving fulltime obviously diminishes the chances of making a mainstream success
But I also didn't try making a mainstream success, the game simply isn't mainstream in the first place
round bloom
Alright bro Its all good.
Having a job, where zero risk, and you can afford to risky taking deving games, is all good. Independant of huge success of mild failuire.
round bloom
Why does that matter? Like at all?
cloud cobalt
@thorny cipher Funny enough, I profiled last week and found the issue too
steady sequoia
That's going to be super helpful
Not having to deal with random lag spikes during profiling
round bloom
YOu don't need a profiler to know if you add something to a game, if its making it lag. Like you can delete stuff until you game stops lagging.
steady sequoia
The lag spikes are annoying mostly because the profiler picks up on them as well so it can be annoying to sift through lagging points in your game and trying to figure out which parts are actual lag and which parts are lag from the profilier hitching
round bloom
Yeah Im right.
plush yew
Profiling is good to measure how much something is affecting performance
round bloom
Okay, This subject is like just overcomplicated, Its not hard to figure out whats making your level lag, you dont need a profiler.
honest vale
sometimes it is
steady sequoia
It's helpful to determine where the lag is coming from
round bloom
(Yeah THats right BOis i said it 😃 )
LOl i still dont think it matters, but i guess its good you got your profiler fixed.
steady sequoia
It's not something that ruins the profiler since it's usually obvious which spikes on your chart are from profiler hitching instead of your actual game, but not having to deal with them at all is a great quality of life
cloud cobalt
Profiler is vitally helpful
round bloom
Yeah We only got 80 years to live. and than you'l wonder where all those days went. Oh yeah they went into like worrying about stuff like the Profiler in ue4 not working correctly.
steady sequoia
I mean if your game starts lagging wouldn't you want to know what to change in your game for sure rather than removing stuff at random until it works?
It saves a lot of time
round bloom
If My game starts lagging. Boi, I Smack My Computer till it stops lagging.
cloud cobalt
Profiler just tells you which of your 100 000 lines of code suck
honest vale
and without the profiler you can't exactly measure what your changes do
thorny cipher
@round bloom The profiler is probably the most important tool in the engine
plush yew
Can I change some cpp code when I create BP-project
thorny cipher
You can have hybrid projects yes
@round bloom Also i'd recommend reading #old-rules 😃
wary wave
Ark is worse, hehe
narrow pasture
Is there any solution for making a rectanglular light?
pallid compass
no because both there sdk's are trash