ohh is it
#ue4-general
rustic panther
polar hawk
¯_(ツ)_/¯
floral heart
/shrug
rustic panther
/smile
livid haven
Reddit Style:
¯_(ツ)_/¯
floral heart
backspace is the escape character in discord
floral heart
¯\(ツ)/¯
polar hawk
public bool Shrug(String Fuck)
{
// ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
return ¯\_(ツ)_/¯;
}
Fuck is not a recognized type
dark depot
...
burnt nexus
So annoying that Epic uses the same login system for Unreal Engine as it does for their games (fortnite). Can;t log on to download a plugin 😦
polar hawk
def shrug:
return ¯\_(ツ)_/¯;
dark depot
That sucks
livid haven
@burnt nexus They can't be different. They're Epic accounts.
rustic panther
the login server though?
livid haven
Short of having a completely different set of account systems.
dark depot
Makes sense
burnt nexus
@livid haven why am I able to login with their website, but not with their launcher then?
rustic panther
the website is having issues too
livid haven
Can you? The website is having issues for me.
rustic panther
jinx
livid haven
Win some, lose some.
rustic panther
¯_(ツ)_/¯
silver crown
Forums seem fine
polar hawk
def shrug:
return ¯\_(ツ)_/¯;
Yep, website works fine
rustic panther
_/¯(ツ)¯\_
floral heart
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```csharp
string String```damnit
safe rose
They should have different login accounts for Fortnite by now
I mean, it's clearly causing too many issues
And affecting actual devs
I know we don't make them 6 million a day
So the priorities are skewed;)
burnt nexus
Yeah agreed ^
mint raptor
Yeah site giving me troubles as well
long grotto
Yeah as an amateur dev who doesn't play Fortnite.. BOOO. Oh well Epic will hopefully prevent this from happnin in the future
swift spindle
who has time to play fortnite =/
safe rose
What's Fortnite?
indigo vigil
I assume everyone else is getting error ES-OSS-3 too?
Oh, datebase failure. https://status.epicgames.com/
safe rose
Bluehole finally making their move
rustic panther
haha
safe rose
Speaking about them and pubg corp...I hope it doesn't set precedent about people suing other devs for "likeness"
long grotto
I think that's been going on since the beginning of time. Like when Beth went after Notch for SCROLLS
rustic panther
Epic is actually suing the company I work for over the Paragon name
apparently
we recreate pinball machines and one of them is named Paragon
livid haven
Suing or C&Ding?
rustic panther
Im not sure
livid haven
One is far scarier than the other.
long grotto
Hmm, I don't think they'll win that one, but there's probably more to it
rustic panther
ya no way will they
long grotto
Paragon isn't something they invented
livid haven
It's never that simple.
long grotto
You miiight wanna remove the Paragon logo from the pinball machine though ;D
livid haven
There does appear to have been a pinball machine called Paragon back when, so, if making a digital version of that, that seems at a glance like a fair and reasonable thing to me.
rustic panther
livid haven
IP law is complicated and requires dickery.
safe rose
Which one came first @rustic panther ?
livid haven
Seriously needs an overhaul in the states.
safe rose
And who cares, they killed off Paragon
livid haven
Trademarks do apply to a particular field though. It's not that simple.
rustic panther
and we digitized it in like 2014
safe rose
That pinball company just needs to show they used it a long time before
But yeah, US trademark laws are silly
livid haven
Hopefully that all gets worked out and resolved well for everyone. :X
safe rose
But AFAIK, if a company can show clear use of a logo/name for a good while vs someone new who has TM'd it, and new guys try to bully old dudes
The TM will go to the OG
livid haven
I think there can be other complications with regards to likeness of the new product/service though.
safe rose
Oh, I don't doubt it. That's why Trademark lawyers make bank
livid haven
And also why the system is such a mess. 😦
unborn matrix
Yeah I've just noticed a slowdown :/
safe rose
I haven't updated in awhile because of their issues with Creator's update
rustic panther
woah animated text
rustic panther
ya I know
unborn matrix
What drivers are y'all running?
rustic panther
I drive myself
unborn matrix
👏 thanks
young rose
yea
unborn matrix
Anything late last year
young rose
sad
safe rose
anything before 390.65
safe rose
Damn, the one time I was going to create a blank project to repro bugs and I can't get in
Oh. I lied
Just got in
safe rose
Damn, blank projects are so fast
dense quartz
Can anyone help out with sequencer issue.I'm trying to render out flythrough for my project but as soon as I hit capture it renders in low quality.I have set the post processing blend to 0 in camera but still getting the same issue.Any suggestion will be helpful.Thank you
drowsy fox
Is anyone here any good with multiplayer? I posted in the thread and would like someone to look it over to find any flaws
gloomy pollen
Anyone know a good place for some really light ambient background music like for a main menu? I listened to some 'ambient' creative commons music but so far its all loud and not really ambient....
random forum
Servers are broke? How do I access offline mode?
livid haven
I don't have an answer, but a part of me wanted to say to just rip the ethernet cable out and you're all set. That wouldn't be very helpful though.
livid haven
I have been blissfully isolated by interacting only with internal dev servers/services. :X
weary basalt
You only play the game for dev purposes?
patent siren
oofs
livid haven
I work almost exclusively on UI and even with that, more behind the scenes.
Playing a lot of Fortnite wouldn't really give me any great insight in to how to make better UI framework code. :X
devout gulch
@weary basalt do play games you make for few years ?
livid haven
I have been on the team for like 3 - 4 years now, but even so I've largely been able to work in a manner that makes lots of hands on experience (with the game) irrelevant to being able to do my job with a lot of insight.
My audience is other programmers, more than it is the actual players.
crisp fable
"Sorry, you are visiting our service too frequent, please try again later."
what is this nonsense
dont blame me if you're getting ddos'd
stable axle
Is there a way to start a new project offline?
crisp fable
uh
so the new python scripting kind of stinks
im sure you can do a lot with it but running the actual script is a bitch
cloud cobalt
So at which point does Epic finally gives us a separate launcher for UE4 ? Tired of this shit
honest vale
just launch from the uproject file
regal mulch
It's not only the Launcher
Everything is offline
Well not the forums
But the CreatorsHub for example
vale osprey
I'm trying to update to 4.19 so I can update my plugins...
regal mulch
Or they just restored it. Idk. Couldn'T reach it
crisp fable
@quasi lake ctrl click i think
vale osprey
launcher crashed somewhere in the middle of the process
quasi lake
@crisp fable Not working
vale osprey
right click - add key
quasi lake
Hot key plz
regal mulch
Maybe there is non? :D
vale osprey
You can import csv file as a curve, in case of symmetrical curves it’s a savior as you can’t copy/paste tangents
quasi lake
Is it possible to generate a vector curve file for camera animation which can be edited in a similar way like level sequence?
Or
Is it possible to change a level sequence keys into a curve file?
quasi lake
Strange
It doesnt work
That's not a big deal though
But I need to create a camera animation vector curve in a designer view
Which is used to give extra camera variation to basic camera logic at runtime
🤕
crystal lotus
Question guys, How would I make an Enemy chase me but only to a certain distance in C++?
honest vale
you need to break your feature into smaller bits you can work with
like..
- make the enemy move towards some goal
- somehow measure the moved distance
- somehow decide when it should stop
- how does it keep track of its original position so it can return
crystal lotus
Oh I see what you mean thanks 😃
quasi lake
Normally you can use behavior tree and blackboard to make AI
I figured it out
It's shift+lmb...
Did they just change the hotkey in new version?
vale osprey
perhaps they did
honest vale
okay
cloud cobalt
That was helpful
livid haven
Not really sure whether to call mods or not. Like half your post history seems to be legit questions and half is just shit-posting
cloud cobalt
I wish we had less shitposting, but well
honest vale
few lines is nothing tbh 😛
livid haven
It isn't, but a page or two of that guy's history here is nothing but random shitposting.
livid haven
Yes, you.
paper rampart
Its called humor. Sorry if that offended you. Im a guy who laughs at my own jokes
Didnt mean for it to be shitpost
Just wanted to crack a joke :D
regal mulch
@livid haven Don't worry. Working on changing the situation :P https://puu.sh/A1ue1/926e7ebdba.png
But yeah, please watch where you post things in the future.
Not long and it won't be just a warning
livid haven
I heard mention of such a thing. I also don't want to just jump to calling mods for every dumb little thing either - that's a waste of everyone's time too.
regal mulch
I also thought about the pinging situation.
We will have a way of silent pings, that don't involve posting @pallid briards here
WOW DISCORD
livid haven
Wanted to at least check their post history and see if maybe they were doing something other than posting random emoticons and tiny non-sequitur blurbs.
Hello, Mo.
regal mulch
I seriously hate that. Cause of this I have to change the bot a bit
Imagine you ban someone by mention and that happens
livid haven
Yeah, that particular bit of Discord seems to still be busted. 😦
quasi lake
Anyone knows how to convert an animation curve inside matinee/sequence into an individual curve file?
frank escarp
for the picture XD
sudden agate
:/
cloud cobalt
Yes, this is really annoying
UE4 devs hostage to Fortnite as per fucking usual
It's been an entire day now
devout gulch
you don't even give the 1/3 of money to epic of what Fortnite does
that cloud explain it 😄
devout gulch
over one month fortnite made 130mln $
on GDC they said that games creted by licensee made 1 bln $
assuming all of them would pay ryalties it would about 50mln
and fixed cost licenses are cheaper
cloud cobalt
1bln including PUBG ?
devout gulch
idk, never specified
languid shard
nice, since we can't log into the launcher the plugins aren't working either
cloud cobalt
Seems very little to me
languid shard
can't use the substance plug
cloud cobalt
I'm sure Fortnite is profitable, just saying UE4 should bring huge money too
devout gulch
it should but I'm sure the money from licensing engine to game developers is not even comparable
to what they get from Fortnite
Films
and Enterprise
we are at the dead end
paper rampart
Lol
tall pendant
i guess the 1 bln is incl. pubg. why would they exclude it? ...
languid shard
yet gamedevs are the front end of UE4
obtuse path
Anyone else having issues logging into Unreal Engine Answerhub?
paper rampart
A Company never 100% profits of an game
If thst was the case every big game development would die out
obtuse path
"Sorry, you are visiting our service too frequent, please try again later."
Literally my 2nd time or third time this morning visiting answerhub
obtuse path
I was using it just fine last night, damn it unreal! I don't get why they couldn't keep their developer stuff separate to all of the fortnite stuff
frank escarp
with the kind of money fortnite is bringing
cloud cobalt
Because they don't care
frank escarp
its definitely more profitable that licenses
even AAA
its a stupid huge amount of money
they are probably around 150 milllion or more dollars, probably past 200 millions, wich is completely ridiculous
thats just so much goddamn money
it will not last for long, tho
thus is the life
obtuse path
I've got a deadline tomorrow at work, and I cannot access any of the materials I need for looking into bugs and such - a bloody pain!
frank escarp
epic knows, i dont think they will try to grow teams massively
they arent idiots, they probably know its a fad
leaden garnet
Yeah just got the "Sorry, you are visiting our service too frequently, please try again later".
frank escarp
their job is to keep that fad alive as long as possible, to keep the cash going
thats why they moved staff from everything into fortnite
only way to grow a team that fast
devout gulch
the other half of the staff
is probabaly looking what the next bangwagon will be
I would say there is place for three BR game types on the market
1 Realistic
- Arcade'y
- With abilities
cedar snow
so they bring paragon back
cedar snow
Paragon: Battlegrounds
devout gulch
yes, they just need add normal shooting mechanics ;d
instead of this 20m range pistol bullshit
cedar snow
collecting abilities instead of weapons
like dota2 ability draft, only during the game
frank escarp
thats kind of the things paladins battlegrounds does
in that stream it looked very nice
like a huge version of wow arenas, with shooting mechanics
the thing is
what will epic do with so much cash
honest vale
what's an acre in real units
sinful pier
roughly about 4000m²
honest vale
sooo 0.4 hectares?
sinful pier
I hate the decimals but yeah I believe so
sinful pier
trying to get sued by PUBG inc.
paper kernel
that's rather low price
warm bluff
Ey guys! I got le question about particle systems! I would like to make a Fire particle, which like has half local space and half not, here's what I wanna make, I wanna make a flamethrower and when firing and moving forward around atm the flames are remaining in place which means my character goes right throw them XD I would like to make something like Moira's Heal beam/spray from Overwatch when walking it does get left behind and it's only getting affected when the character looks left right up down thats when it like gets left behind like fire should be haha
anyone could point me to the right direction to make my fire only react to left right up down and not get left behind when I walk?
Thanks lots! All I want are some tips on where to go next 😄
devout gulch
@frank escarp burn it again on some internal projects
not that I blame them, at least they don't fire their employees
stable orbit
Does anyone else have issue signing into the Epic Games Launcher?
vale osprey
Yes, everyone
tall pendant
works for me tho
cursive dirge
I couldn't even get to the forums earlier
stable orbit
I had issues yesterday but wasn't sure if it was epic or jus me
Good to know I am not he only one but sucks for it not working
obsidian nimbus
well u can still open up projects
vale osprey
Was installing 4.19 overnight and launcher crashed, wasn’t able to resume it in the morning
onyx mural
cursive dirge
also like how they never make any announcements when their services are down
they suck big time on communications
devout gulch
what's the point, you see it's down 😄
cursive dirge
last time they leaked everyones usernames and passwords, they hid the announcement deep down to their website
so nobody could accidentally find it
I just find it shady
@devout gulch point is, people don't have to keep refreshing and wasting their time if they give announcement of estimated downtime
surely they can figure out if this will take days or few hours
reading the news
sounds like this is all because of fortnite
it's a such a shitty practice to tie dev accounts into game system they use
devout gulch
they just used the same backend
but that's not an issue
the issue is that this backend does not scale
so much for "cloud will help with traffic spikes"
I actually can understand why they do not give ETA
that's probaley they have no idea how long it will take
and if commit to some random ETA people will rip you apart if you miss it
devout gulch
yeah I did it longg ago
frank escarp
becouse honestly, its volatile as hell lately
devout gulch
yeah
and once you asociate paypal with epic account
it doesn't even ask you for confirmation
with further purshes
WTF
purchases*
cursive dirge
yeah, it's not good idea to have any of your cards or accounts linked to Epic account
they can't be trusted in these matters
with game as popular as fortnite + epics history on dealing security issues is just a bomb waiting to explode
I still think they should finally decouple the dev services
split into two backends
regal mulch
What do you mean "waiting" :D Multiple people already reported their information being used to buy Fortnite stuff without the account being touched
cursive dirge
it's the right thing to do
yeah, I know it's happened but I'm more of talking full database leak
regal mulch
Yeah well, that would be doomday
cursive dirge
it's not been that long from the last time they leaked stuff
frank escarp
it already happened
cursive dirge
yeah, I have this email address I've used register for services on the internet for past 10-15 years
it only appeared on those "leaked usernames" service checklists when Epic failed to cover their systems properly
cedar snow
out of curiosity: how are the houses in fortnite built? is every wall an actor, component, instanced mesh + collider?
devout gulch
probabaly actor
but idk
I assumed actor because they must replicate their state to clients
and I doubt Epic have some custo tailer solution not integrated into engine
cedar snow
but then non-ticking actors right? players see quite far and when looking at the burger town that must be hundreds of walls if not more
cedar snow
hmm, maybe during the lighting talk
cursive dirge
I wouldn't be surprised if whole building was one actor alone
cedar snow
and walls being scenecomponents ?
honest vale
watch the gdc talk
cedar snow
the one about fortnite optimizations?
cedar snow
cool thanks
viral herald
hey guys
the isinair thing
in a tutorail
it said you can just copy it from a tp roject and place it in (the animationbp)
and when i do
there is an error
honest vale
they have "destructible HLOD" in fortnite
cedar snow
and the decision on whether to draw them comes from a texture atlas
honest vale
here's actually a better part of the video https://youtu.be/1xiwJukvb60?t=42m25s
Ryan Bucks goes into more detail there
cedar snow
hand made LOD's 😭
honest vale
well it's not that big of a deal if you only need silhouette matching
honest vale
yea, I think he released it as a plugin on github
plush yew
if we need to patch our shipped game with bugfixes and maybe additional content, what would be the way to do so?
cursive dirge
most platforms probably have their own automated updating tools
honest vale
honestly the imposter system + hlod is really cool
plush yew
and if we arent using most platforms?
honest vale
they should turn that into an official supported feature of landscape/hlod/whatever it fits with
cursive dirge
no idea if you can force UE4 to not repackage old files somehow to help the patchers job
plush yew
ill read through this for now: https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-us/Engine/Deployment/Patching
cloud cobalt
Yes, this is a good starting piint
This will generate a patch file that adds & updates content, replaces the executable
devout gulch
so it looks like I can't direclty patch pak file (ie remove old content from it)
but i have to stack new pak with patches
devout gulch
yeah, but i think about patching game for like 7 years
cloud cobalt
You're not going to patch that way for years
devout gulch
it will just create shit load of paks to manage
you would need delta patcher that would just directly modify pak files
cloud cobalt
The way the UE4 patching process works is : generate big release, do small patches a few times (<5-10)
Then restart with a clean release
Delta patching is nice but absolutely impossible to handle from UE4
devout gulch
unless you don't use pak files
cloud cobalt
Delta patching depends on the current version on the client
So UE4 couldn't provide that i they wanted
Steam provides that as part of their infrastructure, because they do have the information needed
If you have 9 past releases and do an update, that's 100 possible deltas to resolve
Basically you have two choices here :
- use UE4 patching process, which is the traditional console pipeline of infrequent updates with huge QA everytime
- use a delta-capable delivery service (Steam or your own service) that works from raw, uncompressed releases
Worth mentioning is, delta doesn't work if you have a compressed pak file
Not using paks doesn't solve anything. Slower to load, and engine upgrades will still trigger a complete redownload if you had compression enabled.
devout gulch
so if I want to release big patch, I will force everybody to essentialy redownload entire game -;-
if using default unreal patching system
cloud cobalt
That very heavily depends on your game and distribution platform
And other compromises are at stake
The main variables here are : size on disk, download size, and developer ease
UE patching is best for size on disk (only way you can use compression), it's decent on download size (minimal patch 90% of the time, with re-download on huge updates)
Delta patching is best for download size, but sucks at disk size
Delta with compressed files means re-download all the game when you change a boolean (or update the engine)
We went with Steam's delta patching + uncompressed paks because it's easiest to set up, smallest updates (and huge size on disk)
Console devs need to go with UE4 patching + compressed pak because they can afford the hassle, it's the smallest size on disk, and the updates are usually small
frank escarp
@cloud cobalt patching doesnt work with compressed
at least on ps4
it just generates a patch with "changed file: content.pak"
cloud cobalt
Sigh
@frank escarp Talking about UE4 patching here
Which will generate a small file with just the changes, that you will add in your PS4 patch
Main pak file won't be updated
viral herald
guys, my caracter is acting up, after a few seconds of moving, then begins to slow down until it stops
and i cant look up or down even though i got the pitch right
anyone know whats going on?
rocky kayak
could try it with the animation update bp disabled to pinpoint the problem
loud phoenix
viral herald
@rocky kayak what?
rocky kayak
movement is the issue. your animation update bp on the left there interacts with movement. usually i pinpoint problems by isolating them, simply unlink the animation bp at the top there and try moving around then. from there, try to further isolate the problem until you find the issue
plush yew
I'm having the same problem. I can't log in.
rocky kayak
i logged in without any issue about an hour ago, however i also was forced to logout last night
upper heart
frosty bloom
What would be a good formula to reduce Penetration of a projectile depending on Angle? For some reason I'm currently unable to wrap my head around it
regal mulch
Welp you have the wall normal
And you have the direction of your projectile
Use the DotProduct on both vectors (normalized vectors!) and used acosd
frosty bloom
Yeah I already got the values, I just need to figure out how to apply the AngleVal to the PenetrationVal in the correct manner :p
regal mulch
Then you get the angle
RangeMapClamped
Or so
If you want it realistic, then how idea sorry. Might want to use a curve for that
Where you map penValue to angleValue
And just read the value from the curve, passing the angle
vale osprey
you could treat it as in real life - incidence angle practically changes thickness of the object. At 45 degrees, object will appear 2 times thicker
vale osprey
regal mulch
Or 60° , welp
frosty bloom
Yeah I read some WW articles about artillery but tbh it was some insane formulas they calculated (beyond me that is) :p
regal mulch
Wouldn't put that muc hthought into it
It's not like your players will question/understand how that works anyway
frosty bloom
Yeah it will be one of the hidden statistics in the game. Something players can Kinda feel and see
vale osprey
the formula is just calculating lenght of diagonal
you know angle and thickness of the object
let me find it
frosty bloom
I'm currently using a formula like this (not yet applied the Angle of Hit to it) - float Power = (PenetrationPower + (PlayerBaseStats.Dexterity * 0.1)) * ChargeAlpha; ChargeAlpha is how long player has charged an attack in this situation, I have a the TensileStrength of the surface and merely do a Power >= TensileStrength to check if penetrating or not.
I would apply the angle into the Power calculation I believe
vale osprey
which for that diagram will be C = B / sin( angle), where angle is your incidence angle
sin(90) will be = 1 so it will be just thickness of the object at 90 degree incidence
distant finch
uhm I have an little issue. I try to start unreal engine, but I aint even able to login into epic games, i just get the error AS-0
cloud cobalt
Everyone has it
frosty bloom
Yeah, I should be able to figure it out from here. Appreciate the help @vale osprey @regal mulch !
Edit: Solved, works perfectly! 😄
cloud cobalt
Basically just wait
distant finch
ah okay
sudden agate
wtf, when I try to login into my account, i get a message about a code sent to my email, but I didn't receive anything
cloud cobalt
Servers are down
sudden agate
I see, thanks
cursive dirge
@sudden agate https://status.epicgames.com/
viral herald
can someone help mean with my character?
i cant seem to figure out whats wrong with my character up/down view
the input is correct (tried 2 different kinds of input) the bp is correct (a custom one+ the tutorial one)
i cant seem to figure it out
bitter iris
Is it illegal for someone to go into a .pak file
honest vale
why would it be illegal
cloud cobalt
It's probably disallowed in the user agreement, so you might get banned from the game, or the game platform, or nothing might happen
honest vale
it's the same as reading the file
cloud cobalt
If you redistribute it, it becomes very illegal, though
mint raptor
For a PC Only game should smooth frame rate be a thing?
cursive dirge
many countries have laws against reverse engineering, not sure if unpacking game files would be considered there
and like mentioned, end user agreement most likely forbids this
mint raptor
I got a job by reverse engineering an android app for PC, but maybe I got lucky lol
cinder minnow
Hey, I'm not sure where to ask this, but do you know if it's possible to reduce the size of the "white balls" in the viewport ? (without hiding them)
it's kinda big and really not easy to work with
pure jacinth
@cloud cobalt Oh hey, I just came across your old post regarding creating a mod sdk for distribution https://forums.unrealengine.com/development-discussion/modding/95839-how-can-i-release-a-modding-sdk-for-my-game?123419-How-can-I-release-a-modding-SDK-for-my-game=
did you ever figure this out?
manic pawn
@mint raptor smooth frame rate should be off and unlocked for pc
heady obsidian
@cinder minnow try editor billboard scale under rendering in the actor details
cinder minnow
@heady obsidian thank you, that works perfectly 😄
plush yew
Here's what 90 degrees at idle looks like 😂
grand patio
I don't know where to ask this but I've been having issues taking a character from Zbrush/Maya into Unreal Engine and turning the cloth/hair dynamic. Anyone know of any good workflows? I've managed to turn the clothing and hair dynamic, but the mesh of the character doesn't collide with the assets so the hair and clothing just clip through. Been trying to find an answer in physic asset videos but I haven't come across anything that helped. The character is one fbx with different material selection, rigged with a skeleton from Maya. Any help is appreciated!
plush yew
Repasted and dusted, when from 50-90 degree idle down to 32. Never had cooling issues in the past, but this is something to remember
grand patio
It still works?
plush yew
@grand patio You talking about my gpu?
grand patio
Aye
obsidian nimbus
that a laptop cpu?
plush yew
Desktop gtx 1070 FE GPU
rustic panther
story of my life 
obsidian nimbus
damn couldnt u rma it?
plush yew
I could, but why wait two weeks for MSI to do the same thing I just did, ya know?
Look at the thermal paste above. Might be because I've used it since the day it came out, but it's terrible (edit: my perfect internet sent this late 😦 )
obsidian nimbus
lol submit it into the nvidia edge program 😛
plush yew
Wym?
rustic panther
dont you wanna be edgey
obsidian nimbus
you can still open projects tho
plush yew
I haven't made anything worth submitting lmao
Damn I'm still thermal throttling
Fucking FE
cedar snow
time to watercool it 😎
plush yew
Yeah. It's either buy water blocks for my 1070s or upgrade to the 11 series cards
Although, I wouldn't be surprised if EKs block fits on the new cards
We'll see
cedar snow
i'd be surprised by that
frosty bloom
I would love for opinions regarding TP Archery View.. Can't make up my mind so took a few shots from different angles that wasn't all to bad.
Add: The pictures are a little squished, real view is wider.
gleaming shore
Has anyone used nvideas gfe sdk? Im getting some major errors with it
charred raptor
Is it possible to do space to planet
gleaming shore
yeah theres videos on youtube demonstrating it
charred raptor
ok
rocky kayak
@frosty bloom 1 and 4 look great, you could alternatively do a mix of both. 4 for long range, pressing shift or something changes the view to 1 for close quarters should the player ever want that.
rustic panther
@frosty bloom 2
livid haven
It helps that they're ex-Epic guys, so they've got a leg up on tracking these things down. :X Reading now.
safe rose
Jeez... I wish I knew how their QA worked for Releases at Epic
digital anchor
is it possible to separate my instanced static meshes into multiple actors? i have too many of them in a single actor
safe rose
It's like I am alpha testing
livid haven
@safe rose QA is going to test the usual things and of course anything known to have changed, but actually trying to thoroughly test the entire surface of the engine is impossible.
safe rose
Can anyone else confirm that trying to create a New Level then Default level, causes a hard crash?
In 4.19.1
Ah, so it doesn't actually test stuff that worked previously?
They just assume it works, until reported
I guess that's the most time-saving way of doing things
livid haven
I mean, besides the usual stuff that gets automation tested and general workflows, yeah.
livid haven
I don't know that UI interactions like that are automation-testable within UE4. I don't think so.
safe rose
That would be so golden though for them
livid haven
For sure. Hell of a time investment now though.
devout gulch
that GC leak is not THAT serious if you are running standard UE4 games
but if you run persistent game, it's going to be huge issue
little token
I am currently learning UE4 through a video, how do I get out of this and back to my level?
nevermind, found my way back : )
grim ore
@safe rose no issue here making new default levels in 4.19.1, I've tested it a few times yesterday and used it a few times today in an older project I just upgraded from 4.18.3
safe rose
hmm, I guess my project is just cursed
Another team-member confirmed the issue, oh wells
charred bluff
Hey question, the new UE4 launcher where do I access my prjects?
I can't find where my library is. (Sorry if this is wrong chat for asking)
charred bluff
It doesn't look liek that anymore
safe rose
Just click Library and then it'll show up on the right
?
I haven't gotten an update for it
charred bluff
My friend is trying to open her project and she says her launcher changed
safe rose
Click Unreal Engine up top
cursive dirge
oh, launcher is up now?
livid haven
It's going to be hard for us to help while talking to a middleman.
safe rose
It was only down for me for a few hours.
cursive dirge
you sure?
charred bluff
Same, but my frienf is saying they changed the older launcher just now ^_^; I mean I could be wrong but I'm trying to investigate
cursive dirge
thought it was down for everyone for almost one day
livid haven
They should hop on here and provide screenshots themselves if they're having trouble with it.
charred bluff
ok
cursive dirge
btw
can you somehow turn off fortnite auto-update?
I never asked Epic to do that
livid haven
No clue.
cursive dirge
they don't auto-update UE4 (thankfully)
vale osprey
"I've never asked for this"
cursive dirge
but it's annoying that fortnite always hogs all bandwidth when I happen to open launcher
yeah
I really want them to separate UE4 development and their games
charred bluff
Yeah I agree
cursive dirge
this is really crappy situation for devs
charred bluff
I just want to work on my project I don't want to get bombarded with all this other stuff
safe rose
agreed
vale osprey
I have a feeling that it hogs it even when not installed :D
was installing 4.19 yesterday and coudn't do anything
cursive dirge
ah "manage games" "allow auto-updates"
charred bluff
It;s like I get it
advertising but, as a developer no matter how many ads they put up I'm not going to buy it
because I'm here for development not as a customer
vale osprey
it's free
cursive dirge
I wouldn't mind if it wouldn't break things from devs
but current setup is very broken
every hickup on fortnite servers and no ue4 dev gets access to launcher
or gets a line to wait
charred bluff
Ok so does anyone else has a launcher that looks like this
grim ore
If you dont want the other stuff then shut off the other stuff on the launcher
charred bluff
pallid compass
look at tabs at the top
grim ore
go to the gear icon, and "Hide Game Tabs" to fix that problem from happening again 😃
safe rose
charred bluff
ok the unreal tab does not work
obsidian nimbus
just no respect for correct answers these days 😛
charred bluff
she's able to click on all the tabs but the unreal tab doesn't do anything
obsidian nimbus
unreal engine
charred bluff
Whoops sorry
grim ore
Chances are the Unreal Engine tab does do something but it's super slow
charred bluff
ok now it works thanks guys
grim ore
there is a green bar at the bottom when it loads
it loads... every... time... you... click.. it...
so stupid
rustic panther
xD
charred bluff
Are you being a jerk?
grim ore
Every other tab is instant, the UE one is not and its super silly
charred bluff
I know I asked a seemingly dumb question but I just wanted some help
no need to be an ass
livid haven
What?
rustic panther
wat
livid haven
How did you even interpret anyone insulting you?
charred bluff
"there is a green bar at the bottom when it loads
it loads... every... time... you... click.. it...
so stupid"
cursive dirge
he was criticizing the launcher, not you
charred bluff
ok I am just making sure
obsidian nimbus
problem fixed, move along 😛
vale osprey
is it just me or 4.19 projects open really fast?
pallid compass
time to have it out
rustic panther
its just you
cursive dirge
@vale osprey editor loading is supposed to be a lot faster
vale osprey
lucky bastard 😄
rustic panther
I havent noticed that
cinder iron
They open faster.
vale osprey
I think it is
cursive dirge
at least I think it was in 4.19
obsidian nimbus
ow i thought that too, sometimes i get heavy fps drops in 419 tho
cursive dirge
they promoted that on some stream
vale osprey
noice
cursive dirge
could be half the old waiting time
rustic panther
is that for bigger projects?
vale osprey
not many assets
cursive dirge
I'd expect smaller projects to notice it more
rustic panther
hmm
cursive dirge
you still need to stream the assets for bigger projects
vale osprey
normally it's about 30 seconds or more, now it was like less than 10
cursive dirge
I mean, if it's a big level you open
cinder iron
Same project halved the time, community purpose project with some things here and there, the time diff is noticeable
obsidian nimbus
20 second gain, lets start a hour long convo about it 😃
cursive dirge
it makes c++ devs happy for sure
rustic panther
I guess I'm just used to doing soemthign else immediately after I load a project and never time it
vale osprey
yeah, that helps greatly
cinder iron
So much time lost 😔
vale osprey
dunno how I would handle c++ debug with large project
I have one that take few minutes to load, maybe will create some stripped version of it for c++ dev
gleaming shore
You guys know your way around C++ plugins i have a weird problem?
cinder iron
I mean... The same, debug symbols are super handy and the call stack drives you where your dumb error is
cinder iron
Do you use ensure( and check( ?
Its a good way always to keep track of your references and to have a gnome telling you what you did bad
I've experience debuging both, big BP projects and big C++ projects
vale osprey
no, what is that?
worn granite
I prefer ensure to check
cursive dirge
they are just assertions
cursive dirge
you can use them with ue4 c++ to check you have sane values
I personally haven't found them all that useful for gameplay code, but they do make more sense when you deal with larger systems that my interface the code in different ways
cinder iron
ensure will produce a callstack so you can follow where that nullptr (or w/e) came from
cursive dirge
but you get the callstack anyway if you run with debugger attached
cinder iron
If it crashes sure,
vale osprey
sounds really useful
cursive dirge
if you have NPE that you try to access, it will crash 😄
epic seems to favor check() in the engine code
bitter iris
Has anyone got this
cinder iron
The assertions can be utilised aswell for primitive types
I had a bug while ago on a BP only project related to async loading and 2D textures
Purely engine side, debug those is a bit more crutial because I'm always skeptical to think that it is not my fault
So sometimes you spend more time debugging than necesary just because user end errors are more common
bitter iris
getting this, but cant find it
cinder iron
cursive dirge
well
since it's a paid asset
contact the asset seller
or check if the asset has forum thread
people on this discord can't fix marketplace assets
by can't I mean, you literally can't share the asset so people would know what's wrong + there's moral issue on asking community to fix something someone else got paid for
cinder iron
We could if you would understand and share the asset, but you cant do the later lol
livid haven
I think it was more of a "What am I doing wrong with the plugin?"
That error he's seeing looks like a simple diagnostic message from the plugin saying that he needs to set something up that he hasn't yet.
Not that the plugin is broken and someone needs to fix it.
cursive dirge
still, this is no marketplace asset support group, you'd get better responses by contacting the seller or checking if there's forum thread for it
cinder iron
Who knows some content creators sometimes mess up their uploads and upload faulty versions
livid haven
I don't see the problem with a quick "Hey, anyone else used this thing?"
livid haven
Well, not if you're loading, maybe.
cinder iron
No thats great hehe XD check if the seller has a discord or something and try to explain to him your problem, maybe you are not the only one experiencing it
But sounds like its trying to load a non-existent file and the creator placed some failsafing messages
And somehow those messages are showing up when they shouldnt since its your first "load" so should be a "create" instead.
gleaming shore
where are the build logs stored, i can't find them
cinder iron
saved/
Oh wait, build ,,, mh... Would have to check that out, but those might be on saved aswell hehe
gleaming shore
Yeah, its not there unfortunately the little box opens then vanishes before i can read the error code lol
cinder iron
Geh, im not on the computer man, I don't know, google doesnt helped much, right?
gleaming shore
Nope, been googling all day
cinder iron
https://wiki.unrealengine.com/Locating_Project_Logs addressing to official documentation
livid haven
That doc is unofficial, but yes.
Contains helpful information that jives with my memory.
cinder iron
Doesnt show up the author, or is jut the phone version?
livid haven
I don't see anything mentioning an author.
I can look at history and see that Alex (Paschall) originally posted this back in 2014.
It looks right to me, but I wouldn't call anything on the wiki official documentation, even if it comes from someone from Epic. It's still a wiki that gets edited by anyone and doesn't have the same level of guarantee of accuracy as the actual official documentation (non-wiki).
gleaming shore
@cinder iron I had a look through all those aand none of them seem to be the log for this https://i.gyazo.com/5f6c2e769c02ebcbd4469b5e58196a77.png
The log opens and pretty much instantly closes before I see anything
cinder iron
Ooooh okay, good to know Sion
livid haven
I'm not sure about where those logs go, but I'd just do that from commandline instead of through the right click menu
Then you'll have your commandline window open with the output visible there, after it completes.
gleaming shore
Ah! How would I go about doing that? Would it be in the editor or VS
livid haven
Neither
And then you'd have to run GenerateProjectFiles.bat <InsertFullPathToYourUProjectFileHere>
little token
how do I get rid of these checkered boxes?
dense quartz
Does anyone know why Camera is rendering from wrong view in Sequencer although I have placed camera cut?
dense quartz
This is what I have in sequencer.
quiet harness
I found this in my logcat thing: W WindowManager: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Requested window android.view.ViewRootImpl$WEx@4e0f603 does not exist
This has something to do with why my game is crashing
not sure what to do about it though
E Adreno-UNKNOWN: ApiNotSupported:84: API not supported!
E Adreno-UNKNOWN: ApiNotSupported:84: API not supported!
E Adreno-UNKNOWN: ApiNotSupported:84: API not supported!
E Adreno-UNKNOWN: ApiNotSupported:84: API not supported!
E Adreno-UNKNOWN: ApiNotSupported:84: API not supported!
E Adreno-UNKNOWN: ApiNotSupported:84: API not supported!
E Adreno-UNKNOWN: ApiNotSupported:84: API not supported!
E Adreno-UNKNOWN: ApiNotSupported:84: API not supported!
E Adreno-UNKNOWN: ApiNotSupported:84: API not supported!
E Adreno-UNKNOWN: ApiNotSupported:84: API not supported!
THAT i can fix
stable orbit
is there a way of getting rid of the camera preview in the bottom right corner every time I click on the character object?
quiet harness
click that little pin in the bottom left corner of the preview @stable orbit
i think that might remove it
stable orbit
That just pins it so it never goes away
rustic panther
why would a pin get rid of something...
zenith flower
Because it releases the lock that the pin placed in the first place
But as for the actual answer, I have no idea
fervent pendant
Guys ii can't move the mesh in mesh preview any idea what i missclicked?
this thing on top is greyed out
Ok i found it gg
wintry jacinth
Hello, I’m the Project Manager & 1st Junior Level Designer at Slade Studios And I need to ask you guys a question, can anyone here help us convert C++ to Blueprints (Obviously can’t be 100% converted). If need be, we can pay (albeit a small amount; ~$75) it would really help us out, but a quick warning, the code might be a little complex. Thanks!
silver crown
@wintry jacinth Any NDA?
wintry jacinth
Not really, it’s just converting some past work done into blueprints
But it’s all really simple basic stuff already done
We just need some tips on how to build it into Blueprints, or someone can do it.
wintry jacinth
Can I send it in pm?
silver crown
I don't think I'm going to do it, I just want to have a look
weary basalt
@wintry jacinth You maybe better making an job listing in #looking-for-talent for this.
wintry jacinth
@crisp fable we would just need some tips, it’s not like your doing it
weary basalt
Consulting usually costs money.
wintry jacinth
I see people giving tips here all the time!
All I need is someone that knows it and can just give tips on the proper way to build it
rustic panther
ya but like it's developer to developer, not developer to business
hidden heart
make a job post
worn granite
If you hesitate to call it consulting, keep in mind that tutoring is normally a paid service.
rustic panther
ok, well if you want to represent yourself as a project manager for a business you should like... act like one and not 'maybe pay you' 🤷
worn granite
I wouldn't take $75 unless it was purely walking you through the concept and not the entire process.
If y'all don't have C++ guys just use the nativize feature
wintry jacinth
Still though, I’ve done this to help out a lot of people with things they need with level design, didn’t know this community has taken a turn for the worse as of late
We just needed to know the correct settings to build it with.
Or how other people set it up as.
worn granite
Even if I'm a money grubbing scumbag, hows that mean the community itself has taken a turn?
hidden heart
do you mean making BP callable events with your existing C++ code?
speak some sense man
wintry jacinth
Yeah, just some basic converting
zenith flower
Which channel for this?
I have a square block, with six sides of armor, if I heat one side, I need it to dissipate to the other 5 sizes. This would happen until all sizes read 0. My current setup stopped working and since I knew it wasn't all that great, I wont try to fix it. Instead I wish to do it properly...
worn granite
wintry jacinth
Alright, thank you!
worn granite
Uhrm.
zenith flower
Mind you this is like the 10th iteration, and while this worked, this caused "heat" to oscillate back and forth until it cooled to zero.
worn granite
#blueprint I think
zenith flower
k thanks
wintry jacinth
Any tips on converting it?
safe rose
Yes
wintry jacinth
Care to share some?
hidden heart
smh
gritty zinc
I asked this in level design, but i figure ill ask here too: Does anyone have any suggestions for assets for level prototyping? i can just use brushes and the basic floors and walls but id love to use something with a little more personality.
fluid stag
I usually just use boxes with grid materials so I get all the dimension right, then use some nice materials with vertex paint to give it some atmosphere
gritty zinc
thanks I appreciate knowing that workflow is used
fervent pendant
Hello, i'm trying to rotate my character and i don't know why it doesn't work, i made this really simple thing just to see if he rotate what ever the axis and he doesn't do anything: https://gyazo.com/ca6c1bac53593b2dd72274164c2102ad
I want to rotate on the Z axis in a side scroller game
gritty zinc
what is it doing now?
it looks like it should just lock the rotation immediately to -180 when you give that input axis any input
@fervent pendant to trigger a ding
fervent pendant
I had some "pawn yawn" what ever checked unchecked this and he turns, but now he also turns to normal after i finished moving in one direction let me make a gif
Any idea why ? x)
that's how i rotate him
karmic igloo
There's an option in the character movement component called something like Orient to Movement that does it for you.
fervent pendant
THANKS!
gritty zinc
@karmic igloo almost certainly can help more than i can
karmic igloo
Cool. You can adjust the speed and stuff too.
fervent pendant
yeah yeah i was playing with this for hours
i started with empty project and tryign to understand how everything is linked instead of using the template
little token
is there a rule on how many used assets you can use in your own game? Say if I bought assets from the unreal marketplace and I make my whole game out of them and sell it is that possible? i wouldnt do that but I am just curious how it works.
livid haven
It is possible to use 100% bought assets, legally.
And it's also generally frowned upon and pejoratively referred to as an "asset flip" game.
Both by devs and by players who find the practice unsavory.
cinder iron
UBT is failing at rebuild but not at building ~
Or at least that's what I'm seeing here, turns out the dependencies that are failing are external libraries bundled on a plugin
not from my authory
I must be doing something wrong, but it even refuses to generate the sln project files
little token
alrighty, thank you. Yea I was curious about it because I basically watched a 4 hour video for a intro to ue4 and I was wondering have people ever made a all premade asset game
safe rose
Plenty do
little token
yea on my spare time this weekend I will try to learn how to make assets from scratch, the roughness and normal parts of the textures really interested me
livid haven
Aye. It's not unusual. It's just... not usually a positive factor in reception. For sure, some games definitely do use store bought assets and don't get skewered for it though.
The cases I can think of are VR games though.
little token
yea I have a little knowledge in Blender so it kinda opened my eyes with models and textures and how they are made, I noticed a lot of VR games use pre made assets
livid haven
Some of them are even well received. I super enjoyed Vanishing Realms.
Some other VR game has exactly the same enemies, I found out, which was kind of disappointing... but... 🤷 Vanishing Realms is fun and novel.
languid shard
Vanishing Realms is kind of a proof of concept that you can make simple yet very engaging games for VR
I wish Kelly Bailey was not working alone on it
So far he's made an awesome job though
cedar snow
single dev working on that game?
livid haven
It's a "small" VR title.
livid haven
Bit of each?
cedar snow
haha
livid haven
It's hella fun and satisfying, but it's not complex beyond being VR, there's not a lot of narrative involved, graphically it's relatively simple, and you can finish it in a few hours.
Still, it's a damn solid early VR title.
First time I managed to physically assault my apartment in VR was because of it.
cedar snow
i may have gotten it in a sale but not played it yet
livid haven
Smashed the fuck out of my ceiling trying to jump and stab a huge enemy.
frank escarp
oh god
livid haven
Still got the scuff marks.
frank escarp
@livid haven have you tried In Death?
cedar snow
my VR space is a bit obstructed but will get an update this weekend
livid haven
I have not.
frank escarp
you might like it, for rogelike-ish games
cedar snow
ouch for the ceiling
livid haven
I can check it out. Not done much VR in a while. Space is filled with... laundry, actually.
And all my time is trying to deliver on Fortnite deadlines right now. :X
frank escarp
this weekend is Orbus VR free weekend
you can try that one
is that VR mmo
actual mmo
tons of player
made by like 2 people on 3 dollars budget, so it shows due to how ugly and basic it is
livid haven
Yeah, heard the name and seen it was an MMO. Not necessarily my cup of tea but... maybe I can check it out.
frank escarp
but can be a novelty
cedar snow
any of you played skyrim vr yet?
livid haven
Most of my VR time has been House of the Dying Sun, Subnautica, Vanishing Realms, and The Gallery Episode 1.
(And a bit of Elite: Dangerous)
frank escarp
skyrim vr is amazing
unlike fallout 4, this one is a good port
and it shows
you can mod it to death, and it runs perfect
livid haven
Noice. Been meaning to pick it up. After laundry. And deadlines. And visiting the SO out of state.
cedar snow
so you're actively playing it?
frank escarp
yes
cedar snow
might buy it after i revamped my vr space
frank escarp
i have a few mods, mostly gameplay related, nothing any extreme
extra weapons/armor/spells
specially spells, becouse vanilla magic is shit
and magic in skyrim works great
cedar snow
also hands instead of controllers?
cedar snow
oh 😄
frank escarp
hands only when you get a weapon
cedar snow
an expensive port
frank escarp
performs well, supports both vive and oculus really well, and has no issues
cedar snow
to keep on harping on that
frank escarp
yup
fallout 4 is unplayable on the rift
i had to refund it
wich is a shame, becouse shooters mesh with VR FAR better
cedar snow
i will buy it with tightly clenched teeth
frank escarp
at least pc users only bought skyrim once
we got the special edition for free
but console users...
ps3 skyrim, ps4 skyrim SE, PSVR skyrim vr
cedar snow
i own it on PS3
frank escarp
what a shame
cedar snow
lucky me -.-
frank escarp
its a game that is just so bad on console
frank escarp
cant open console to fix bugs, cant edit saves when they break, cant mod it
cedar snow
yeah
frank escarp
i wonder if bethesda will release skyrim for IOS
its a thing i see happening
with their obsession of skyrim on every platform imaginable
wich is smart business
i do the same myself xD
cedar snow
i'd do the same
frank escarp
skyrim vr made them a few million dollas
and the effort is not really that big
biggest thing is to change the render code to work on stereo
the rest is pretty basic translation
little token
learning ue4 is a real eye opener how games are created, this is really cool
wish I learned this during spring break 😢
paper rampart
Ue4 is a really welcoming engine to everyone.
Its UI is what made me choose it any other engine.
fervent pendant
Guys i have a strange issue, my character has some spasm effect when he's falling and it only happens once https://gyazo.com/fad535a2b12c11124518572f85f89ef3
Any idea what may be the issue? The falling animation is a loop
little token
So is this Unreal Engine the same version AAA studios use it do they use a special version for them? If so this is pretty cool
fervent pendant
Oh i actually found it but idk what it means >.>
if i put "time remaining" for jump animation is lest than 1 then it plays correctly
before i had 0.1