ue4-general

[vale halo]

Go AActor -> AMyCoolActor

[pallid compass]

dont say that

[urban gyro]

thats sdown 😄

[pallid compass]

u will confuse him

[vale halo]

(assuming AMyCoolActor inherets and both are pointers)

[plush yew]

I'm very confused

xD

[pallid compass]

See

Basically

[vale halo]

Sorry, ignore what I just said

[pallid compass]

you know your object?

Did u make it from an Actor bp?

[plush yew]

I mean

I'm using something called interaction kit

[pallid compass]

from the market place?

[plush yew]

yeah

[pallid compass]

scrap it

[urban gyro]

theres ur problem 😄

[pallid compass]

its not the way to learn

[vale halo]

Though then your "up" should work too right? I can cast a subclass to a superclass, eg. AMyActor* -> AActor* assuming AMyActor inherits from AActor

[worn granite]

I mean, you can

[vale halo]

(^ Ignore that again)

[pallid compass]

Scrap the interaction kit

[worn granite]

in that it'll compile.

Its pointless

[pallid compass]

and watching the umm

[plush yew]

scrap?

[pallid compass]

Interface tutorial on epic youtube

get rid of it

[worn granite]

Until you understand how things work, don't use it.

[pallid compass]

this ^

Its gonna muffle your learning

[worn granite]

Otherwise you have to learn the pack and then also the basics

[plush yew]

I just wanted to set a god damn variable by interacting with an object xD

[pallid compass]

Ue4 is a full fledged engine, its bad to just have things do X for you

[plush yew]

why is that so much to ask for

[pallid compass]

You need to learn that basically

[manic vault]

anyone know where to get ludex gundyr asset ?

[pallid compass]

You have to make everything from scratch

[manic vault]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShJP0oyrJrg

[worn granite]

cause you gotta know how to do it even with a pack

[urban gyro]

get a volume, on overlap, do something

[vale halo]

Explicit casting that way is probably worthless, but implicit casting using pointers that way can be useful. It allows for an array of AActor*s, which can be various different actors, and be casted back at a later point in time

[pallid compass]

That is why the engine is so powerful

[worn granite]

Better yet you could ask the pack author for support

[urban gyro]

at that point ud be better off with an interface tho

[pallid compass]

Your basically skipping learning minestones that are basic af

[worn granite]

Hey Halcyon....

[plush yew]

but even if I gone about it with a linetrace

[pallid compass]

No dont do that

[worn granite]

.....

[pallid compass]

You need to learn the basic's

[worn granite]

;)

[pallid compass]

Then interaction will become a super simple thing for you.

[plush yew]

but like

even if I gone to do interaction with a line trace, I'd still be at the same place

I'd still be stuck not knowing how to do the casting

[pallid compass]

Learning object information exchange, casting, accessing each other etc

Okay so

Let me example casting in the form of a drink

[urban gyro]

@vale halo Yeah Intermediate didn't do anything.
In what world would this not work?
https://gyazo.com/a0cf8c8c35fa5278eb9f63078f1e792a
Assuming correct game mode defaults...

[vale halo]

Server I guess? Since it doesn't receive any input? Maybe?

[urban gyro]

this works on cliend and servers

its on a player controller

[pallid compass]

You know you want a Green drink right?
Casting Takes an object in, then checks if it can be This type and if it can it gives you a reference out

So like this

Hey i want a green drink, sure but there are many green drinks how do you know what one u want?

[urban gyro]

I mean it should work...

[vale halo]

Where is that code placed by the way?

[pallid compass]

Okay il give you a reference too this drink

[urban gyro]

player controller

[pallid compass]

so like this

[vale halo]

Hm, well as long as there isn't some world override or the overridden game mode specifies that BP as the world's PC it should work 🤔

[pallid compass]

Hey i need access my Door BP, but which door blueprint? well it comes from a Actor so,
an overlap or hit event outputs the hit Actor, so i can plug that in too a cast and get a reference too door bp

[plush yew]

why is it so overcomplicated?

[urban gyro]

@vale halo I get a "UIpNetDriver::ProcessRemoteFunction: No owning connection for actor" error. Problem is it's not for a posessable object, so it's not like i can possess a pc.

[vale halo]

Hm, well I'm too inexperienced with multiplayer related matters to help there 😦 Maybe #multiplayer will be of more help though 😃

[urban gyro]

@plush yew Look, You have a car right? A car has 4 wheels and an engine, and it can get you from A to B. But there are some cars that are diesel, others petrol, others hybrid, etc etc. So even though a Hybrid, is a Car, not EVERYTHING that is a Car is a hybrid.

tried it there, nobody has an idea, it's cryptic as hell, or im dumb as shit.

[plush yew]

yeah, I understand, different things to choose from

[urban gyro]

@plush yew so the same way, even though a Box is an Actor, not every Actor is a box.

[plush yew]

yeah, but what does that have to do with me wanting to use a cast without a type

an object type

I thought I need to put something about the object type there

for

[urban gyro]

so if you have a Big Box, and then a Pink Big Box, and you get ur hands on a Big Box, then in order to check if its the Base Big Box or a Pink Big Box, you cast the thing you have to a Pink Big Box. If it succeds, then you have access to it's functions.

[plush yew]

whatever I thought

ugh it's so overcomplicated

[urban gyro]

Or using Halcyons analogy, you buy a drink

[pallid compass]

back sorry

Its not over complicated

[urban gyro]

It's a drink, but it could be a beer or whiskey

[pallid compass]

Its wrapping your head around something you have never seen before

[vale osprey]

is there are a way to copy tangents in Float Curve editor?

[urban gyro]

so you cast it to whiskey, and if it fails then it aint whiskey

[plush yew]

that's exactly what my brain is horrible at

but I don't want to check against a true or false

[pallid compass]

So lets assume you have made all your stuff from Actor or Pawn right

[plush yew]

I just want to change a damned variable

[urban gyro]

you gotta go wayy baack to the beginning and OOP basics mate.

[pallid compass]

You can cast too that class by plugging in a overlap Other Actor in too it

and get a reference too it

can someone whip me a simple example up

Im rebuilding my engine

[urban gyro]

if you wanna simply change a variable, then GetAllActorsOfClass and then set it

but eerm, well, u may need a loop

[pallid compass]

no no

Teach him proper way

There is a ton of issues with that, its brittle af

[urban gyro]

well he only wants to change one variable 😄 the other way is like an essay to explain

[pallid compass]

The first thing you can do

Is make a Switch object

with an overlap

[plush yew]

yes, I just want to change a bool xD

[frosty bloom]

LineTrace->Break the Hit Result, cast HitActor to the Actor you want to access

[pallid compass]

and start by practicing doing X too that object

[urban gyro]

line trace needs origin tho 😄

and an endpoint

[golden idol]

is unreal 4.18.3 the latest?

[pallid compass]

Start simple with an overlap event

[urban gyro]

4.19

[vale halo]

Nope

[pallid compass]

Latest stable yes.

[vale halo]

4.19 is the latest as of right now as far as I know

[plush yew]

what overlap event

and why

[golden idol]

werid it says 4.18.3 on mine

[pallid compass]

Well you need away to get a reference too what u want to access

[vale halo]

@pallid compass We all know that 4.19 has bugs, but technically it is a "stable" build 🕹

[pallid compass]

So most basic would be overlap

[golden idol]

no updates for it hmmm

[vale halo]

Did you press the + sign to add a new version?

[pallid compass]

Stable my ass :p

[urban gyro]

@vale halo yeah, thats why the next iteration comes in 2 months right 😄

[plush yew]

look, I just want to frickin click a static item, which then goes and sets a bool of another blueprint true

that's all I'm looking for

no collision

no anything

[vale halo]

Yeah - so major new engine releases (like 4.18 -> 4.19, not 4.18 -> 4.18.1 (or 2)) require you to download the engine as a whole again

[plush yew]

just a click

[pallid compass]

See your blanking off what im saying

If you dont learn the concept of interaction and casting

[urban gyro]

well, you gotta figure out what you clicked

[pallid compass]

Your not going to be able to do it

Instead of rushing try learning

[frosty bloom]

use level blueprint 😉

[pallid compass]

You cant run before you walk.

[plush yew]

but it's already figured out

[vale halo]

Which means you can (easily) run multiple versions of UE4 side by side, but does mean you need to add it as if it were a new installation

[pallid compass]

Obviously not

Because your trying to use a marketplace plugin

[vale halo]

Marketplace plugins = ❤ #TotallyNotBiased

[urban gyro]

is there a plugin that solves cryptic problems?

[pallid compass]

If you cant take the time to learn the basics then you have no idea what is to come,
like i said you cant run before you can walk

[worn granite]

@plush yew not sure anyone here is going to give you the exact step by step you seem to want.

[pallid compass]

Its already been explained a few times, and had examples given

But hes shrugging it off instead of asking about bits he does not get

[worn granite]

Ah

FFS VS

[pallid compass]

i even gave the Drink example for casting 😂

[vale halo]

^ Just my 2 cents on this matter: Learning things may be annoying, especially when you want to get in to building your awesome new game, but is 100% worth it. It'll help you so much as you create stuff as there aren't ready-made assets or tutorials for everything you want to implement. It's like wanting to build a revolutionary new rocket, without wanting to learn about rocket science and fuel chemestry

[plush yew]

because I don't understand the examples

[worn granite]

This IDE. can you not?

[urban gyro]

@plush yew check the PINNED tutorial in #blueprint

[plush yew]

it just sounds like you're talking about true or false

[urban gyro]

best spot to start

[worn granite]

So you just want to flip a var?

right?

[plush yew]

yes

[worn granite]

Is it a var that is on ALL actors?

[pallid compass]

man

dont tell him to do it that way

its stupid af and brittle

[urban gyro]

haha "D

[worn granite]

no

[plush yew]

all actors?

[pallid compass]

it wont work for everything

[worn granite]

Yeah ALL actors

[plush yew]

I just made one actor a blueprint

[worn granite]

ur ruining my point

stopit guys

[cinder iron]

int a; -> ;a tni (that's how i would flip a variable)

[worn granite]

So its on a specific actor type, then?

[vale halo]

😂

[urban gyro]

lvl bp incoming 😄

[frosty bloom]

GetAllActorsOfClass, problem solved

[worn granite]

guys that's not where I'm taking it

[pallid compass]

Yeah thats another bad habbit too start doing for interaction

[worn granite]

w/e

[plush yew]

specific actor type?

[urban gyro]

cmon let him finish

[worn granite]

y'all explain this from another angle

[urban gyro]

cmon say it ur way, im curious too 😛

[vale halo]

^

[worn granite]

I've got a professional grade IDE to babysit

[grim ore]

As soon as he understands he needs to get the exact item to talk to and figures out how to get that exact item he will understand why he needs to learn casting and communication properly.

[worn granite]

cmon lil vs... let's reset your state for you. whoosa good ide? whoosa good ide? NOT YOU

[vale halo]

What's an IDE, daddy?

[urban gyro]

Interactive Dance Entertainment

[pallid compass]

A Actor BP class with Cube and a Collison box that prints text is best starting example

[grim ore]

I Don't Even

[worn granite]

Incessant Developer Enragement

[vale halo]

😂

Still can't decide if this is on-topic or off-topic

[cinder iron]

on topic defo.

[worn granite]

^

Alright let's try this again I suppose.

[urban gyro]

I can't print a string on a PC client, anything is ontopic lol

[worn granite]

@plush yew So you've got a specific type of actor, right? And you want to change the state of an instance of that actor type- correct?

[cinder iron]

but whichever, i don't even know who was asking, but I heard something about interaction, all i gota say is learn about interfaces please

[vale halo]

Are you using a RPC & where are you trying to print it from

Furthermore, Print String doesn't work in non-Development builds 😉

[urban gyro]

i cant fire any rpc's, because the player controller has no owner for some weird reason

i didn't build it, all in editor

[vale halo]

Did you mess with any of the PC-related functions in your game mode?

Because that sounds real weird 🤔

[urban gyro]

yeah, OnPostLogin i just posess a pawn, but even disconnecting it and spawning default pawn didn't work

[cinder iron]

getting used to UKismetWhatever::PrintString(whatever) for C++ users instead of the annoying AddOnScreenDebugMessage makes your face shine

[vale halo]

I just use UE_LOG for most of my debugging ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cinder iron]

I want to see my things on screen right?

[vale halo]

(Won't work for everything, but proves to be sufficient for most things I need (logging error messages)

[cinder iron]

and I can log em aswell that way

[worn granite]

See, I've never found AddOnScreenDebugMessage to be annoying.

[vale halo]

I don't really see a huge need for on-screen messages most of the time though, if I need real time monitoring of a variable maybe, but I rarely work on actual games nowadays 😂

[worn granite]

That + UE_LOG maybe a lil.

[cinder iron]

it is just too long and it doens't give out networking info.

[worn granite]

But that's what wrappers are for.

[cinder iron]

while PrintString gives you everything out

[urban gyro]

what does UE_LOG do?

i mean is it real time or output a txt?

[cinder iron]

both

[vale halo]

Anyway, that doesn't sound like it'd cause any real issues @urban gyro

[cinder iron]

UE_LOG adds a message to the log you can see on the unreal log

[urban gyro]

you know whats more disturbing, if i swap back to default PC and Pawn, it works..

[cinder iron]

and you can check that log under Saved/ if you are keeping your session logs

[vale halo]

Anyway, doing some looking things up.....PCs aren't replicated to the client, so maybe you need to RPC first anyway?.....nvm

[urban gyro]

ive seen ppl replicate them for some reason

[worn granite]

You can technically do it, but its entirely pointless

[urban gyro]

print string rpc would be useful if i wana run a print from the server when i press 1

[vale halo]

Man, not knowing all this stuff really does make me realize that it's been forever since I've worked with multiplayer stuff 😂

[worn granite]

If you try to replicate one to a client that isn't its own, its nullptr

[urban gyro]

well it doesnt exist on other clients so replicating seems pointless

[worn granite]

Just said it.

[urban gyro]

then again ive seen ppl do it for some reason

[cinder iron]

mp is fun

[vale halo]

Plugins are fun too 😉

[cinder iron]

sure

I work @ Piperift I know bout that haha

[worn granite]

I've purposefully exploited that they only exist on server and owning client - as I'm sure many others have.

[cinder iron]

inb4 quoting cedric exi net compendium

[vale halo]

Looks pretty awesome @cinder iron 👍

[urban gyro]

Goddamnit it works on a brand new PC. How and why and what man i dont wana refactor shit now

[cinder iron]

aye, we focus mainly on plugins nowadays, the web is outdated tbf XD

[vale halo]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cinder iron]

but thanksy XD !

[urban gyro]

now im curious if i fucked something up or the engine fucked me over.

[vale halo]

Same here I suppose 🤔

Oooh - you're the guy who created that functional testing thing 😮 😃

(Well, more like work @ the company that created <...>, but still, awesome)

[cinder iron]

as we. we have things on production currently

that one is something muit himself extended, he did a great job

our initial plan was to have it for free but... apparently at the time we couldn't

[vale halo]

I know the feeling 🤔

[cinder iron]

yeah thanksy, we have now couple things going on, really happy with the mini team we created

[vale halo]

Cool, the best of luck with your projects I suppose 😃

[cinder iron]

☺

[vale halo]

I should probably get back to work though, this server costs me way, way too much time 😂

[swift spindle]

hey.... does anyone know if there is a systemic bug when it comes to videos and memory leaks ?

[plush yew]

Hello 👋 I’m new. I just like doing game design as a creative outlet, have been using UE4 and Blender for a few months now. I’m just a filthy casual bu thought I’d say hi.

[swift spindle]

no such thing as a filthy casual @plush yew

[plush yew]

Haha ty. I like lurking here, I learn a lot.

[swift spindle]

I started unreal as a small test 3 years ago... now it's my fulltime job

[worn granite]

I can almost say the same

[plush yew]

Wow. I do it for fun I’d love to get paid for it. I like what I do now but not forever, hard on family.

[urban gyro]

UE4 is the only engine that has the capability to fully render Solitair in all it's glory. U made the right choice.

[worn granite]

Only it wasn't as much a test as "I'm gonna do this" and then I did.

[plush yew]

I pretty much just have a third person terrain and spend too much time designing materials and plant meshes. Super relaxing.

wonder why we don't have nsfw dev related channel

[worn granite]

GDL does

[urban gyro]

YES!!!! I FIGURED IT OUT! WOHGOOOO all caps sry

Tx all 4 help

[plush yew]

Grats!

[bitter iris]

Is Simplygon free?

[swift spindle]

yes and no

[bitter iris]

No as in what

Apperently Royalties are gone so its free that way

[swift spindle]

hmmmm I've not looked for a month or so

[tall pendant]

simplygon is going to be replaced by epic own solution anyways

[bitter iris]

Ahh with what?

Which LOD Group would a house go in?

[swift spindle]

large prop will be fine

[tall pendant]

Epic's custom solution.... A house depends on the view distance i guess

[wooden pawn]

Hi ! I'm new to ue4 and i'm looking for a way to get the position of overlaping component. i'm using GetOverlappingComponents to get an array of component (UPrimitiveComponent) but i cant find a way to get their individual positions. So, is there a better place to ask this kind of question ? or/and does someone know how to do this correctly ?

[obsidian nimbus]

there is a : begin overlap event

[light thunder]

How does one access the same type of row from a variable data table if they are built off the same enum?

[mortal gale]

Well..... shit........

That's not fun.

[wooden pawn]

@obsidian nimbus Yep but i'm doing it the other way around. Anyway, I think the right way to go is to use "GetComponentTransform" which is available from UPrimitiveComponent

[silver crown]

@mortal gale 😂

What's your GPU?

[mortal gale]

Intel HD Graphics 4000. It's in my laptop. I'm surprised it doesn't like it anymore, it worked fine on 4.18.1, but after updating to 4.19, it hates it.

[worn granite]

called it Kappa

[silver crown]

You want to run UE on integrated graphics?

That's courageous

[mortal gale]

It ran fine.

On 4.18

[silver crown]

fine = 20fps lowest settings?

Really curious

[mortal gale]

Now, more like 60-75fps.

[silver crown]

Nice

[mortal gale]

This isn't Windows. lol

[silver crown]

🤦

Being on Linux doesn't upgrade your GPU lol

If only...

[mortal gale]

The driver architecture is different.

[silver crown]

Obviously

[mortal gale]

So my desktop has been restarting randomly since last night. so I'm trying to run a RAM test, but it only thinks there is 596k of RAM, I have 16GB. lol, so I'm running an address test now.

[urban gyro]

imma take a wild guess and say that u have too many bad sectors on ur hdd 😄

[mortal gale]

That has nothing to do with it.

This is RAM, not the HDD.

[south ridge]

You have too many bad electrons in your wires

The only solution is to download more ram

[mortal gale]

lmao

[urban gyro]

I just read that ur rig was randomly restarting

so that was my initial guess 😛

memtesting is kinda the last thing u do anyway tho, cuz if u get bad results then its off to the shop 😄

[brave lark]

Anyone know if I can unpack my own project file? I forgot to make a back up and I need to check out what I did to break my code. I have my project file still so could I get a key from that or something?

[weary basalt]

What do you mean exactly? You want to recover your project from a Packaged game?

Is that what your asking?

[brave lark]

if thats possible

or view the blueprints within

I'm assuming that it doesn't work that way

or maybe recover uassets from it? Blueprints are uassets right?

[snow crown]

uhm

you can unpack your assets but once cooked you aren't going to get blueprints back

they cook down into a halfway compiled format

[brave lark]

fuuuuuu*******

[snow crown]

which loses a lot of the internal uncooked data

it's even worse if blueprint nativization is enabled, you aren't getting that back at all

since those are converted to C++ and compiled into a .dll

[brave lark]

it's not nativized so thats somewhat good

i'm just trying to figure out something simple I did without having to recreate the whole thing

it was like a 4 day ordeal last time

I have a game where I have been trying to achieve some clever camera tricks for controlling pawns both in and out of VR without having to change the actual pawns code, but instead use separate controllers. I made a working concept that was done mostly in the level blueprint. I packed that up and brought it to a game dev event and showed it off. I still have this file. The project file I unfortunately tried to move all the processes into the controllers and the whole thing went bunk and now I can't make out which way I did things. All I have is the camera transform replicating to the controller transform logic that I needed for this project. That was the tough part to figure out so If I have to I can remake the whole thing, BUT I did do a lot of stuff to the character class and I don't want to have to re-figure out what I did. I was hoping to unpack my .pak so I can see what stupid little thing I did that broke the whole system. At current all my character does is spin in place regardless of what controller I assign to it and or what order things get possessed. It's really annoying.

[weary basalt]

@brave lark You have no choice, start again.

Use this as an lesson in why Source Control is an MUST.

[brave lark]

whats funny is I have source control on it. The folder on my laptop that I use to store everything got deleted because I though I moved everything to my new 6tb hdd.

You think I would have done that right lol

[empty condor]

an off-disk backup is always useful. private repo on github or something. onedrive, even.

[brave lark]

two back up locations on my desktop, one on my laptop, and zips in google drive and the one time I wanted to do something for funsies and I didn't have my source control set up propper

figures

[empty condor]

yeah it happens

[brave lark]

right when you think you're good too

oh well

if anyone is curious as to what the project looks like

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7VXaNAVpU5sbGRwaVFOVkEyakE

and yes I borrowed a spider-man model for testing

so sad, i can watch videos of all it's glory and now I have to start over XD

[mystic fjord]

apparently i cannot package my game with a master sequence

[brave lark]

omg I found out why it was broken

I made new event nodes for all my actions so that they could be called from the ai controller and I never finished adding stuff to the ai controller

BUT I JUST TORE ITALL APART TO FIND THAT OUT

[mystic fjord]

is there anyway i can package a build so my master sequence can play

[radiant fable]

anyone know whats the bake materials button does?

does it send the material in the slot to the asset's default mtl slot(s)?

guess not

[mystic fjord]

so i found out my problem

I ended up isolating this issue to a random Level Sequence file that I was using as a shot for an in-game cinematic I made for my project. The level sequence file seemed to be corrupt as no matter what I did I could not fix the issue without simply deleting the level sequence entirely from my project. Inside the level sequence it was showing red text on a couple of actors I had already added to the sequencer (mainly the "CineCamera" and the "ActorToFocus" actor I had that camera always looking at). These actors already existed in my levels and I did no changing at ALL to the sequencer or any associated actors prior to 4.19. I was packaging well through 4.18.

As a side note, I went into the 4.18 files to look for the noted file "MovieSceneEvaluationTree.cpp" but I could not find it so I'm not sure if it was just something that was added to 4.19 as it was easily found in the same file location where it states it is at in the error quoted above.

Tl;dr For me, the error was solved after I removed a corrupted sequencer file that only seems to have popped up after I updated to 4.19. This was not an error I experienced prior to 4.19 and once I removed the corrupt sequencer file, my project successfully packaged. Hopefully this can help you. If not, I hope you find your solution. But i still need my sequencer files

[mortal gale]

I'm still extremely confused.

I can't find what it's talking about, and I can't even see the meshes.

Like, there are only checkboxes and textboxes in World settings.

lol the Editor crashed.

Building lighting.

[mortal gale]

I'm still trying to figure out how to get the terrain to show. lol

[mystic fjord]

@mortal gale this is 4.19?

[mortal gale]

Yes.

[mystic fjord]

seems to me 4.19 been giving people a hard time

[mortal gale]

Huh.

In terms of loading meshes?

[mystic fjord]

No i am talking about in terms of what i've been doing

cause ue4 crashed when i was building some light

[mortal gale]

I can't even texture anything. lol

Do you use UE4 on Linux too?

[mystic fjord]

No on windows

[mortal gale]

Oh.

[mystic fjord]

hey can you test something out for me?

[mortal gale]

Sure, as long as it doesn't take too long to download, if anything.

[mystic fjord]

No i mean on your side

[mortal gale]

Oh, sure.

[mystic fjord]

Okay can you make a short sequencer scene

and try to compile it?

[mortal gale]

tell me how. lol

step by step.

I'm not too experienced with this editor.

Or you can teamviewer, if you want.

[mystic fjord]

Yeah lets do that

[mortal gale]

I have teamviewer 12 on here, so you'll need to get that.

[mystic fjord]

i already have

i have 13 actually

[mortal gale]

Yeah, you'll need 12.

[mystic fjord]

really?

[mortal gale]

Yep.

13 and 12 don't cooperate.

[mystic fjord]

ok

all they have is 13

[mortal gale]

I may have the installer for 12 on my Windows HDD.

[crisp fable]

does anyone know if theres a max filesize for uasset files?

its limited by 16tb on NTFS

[silver crown]

Probably 2GB @crisp fable

int32 array of uint8

[crisp fable]

ok thanks

guess ill stick this massive octree in a generic bin file or something

[faint cedar]

silly question

anyone here from Tokyo?

also, probably more appropriate for the lounge

[proven tree]

hello

so a question

Is std::string viable for text

or should i stick to TEXT

macro

and use std string internally

[floral heart]

I believe text supports localization, so you should use that wherever the consumer is expected to read it

[silver crown]

Don't use std::string

Don't use std:: at all if possible actually

[mortal gale]

@crisp fable I have a 10GB asset file. lol

Although I'm not on Windows.

[proven tree]

Ill always use std string

Why shouldnt i

[silver crown]

Because this is Unreal

So you should use their libs @proven tree

@mortal gale 10GB .uasset file?

What is it?

[mortal gale]

Oh, I thought the Paragon assets were one file.

I guess not.

[silver crown]

😛

[mortal gale]

nvm then. lol

Apparenly the largest uasset file I have is 615MB.

I ran locate "*.uasset" |xargs du -ha |sort -h

to check.

[floral heart]

do playerstates tick?

[weary basalt]

Yes

[vivid girder]

Whoa, amanda hasn't streamed since March 15th?

[buoyant pine]

Hey, I got a question about source control
Do check the source control section if you're willing to help, much appreciated

[daring peak]

Anyone know why the navmesh refuses to build around this square?

There's absolutely nothing there

Replacing the nav bounds doesn't fix it either

Top down template without the blocks

[proven tree]

@silver crown nope, stanard > ue

[crisp fable]

what do you mean "nope"

have you tested them and found one to be better?

when you're using UE you should, you know, use it

use their libs, follow their coding standards, etc

[pallid compass]

u got collison there

is it perfectly flat?

whats nav mesh tollerance

is it custom engine?

tried in another ver?

[honest vale]

try changing the voxelization settings

[oak quail]

What can I use to code on the Unreal engine?

Visual studio is free for 30 days..but what is a permanent free one?

[silver crown]

Visual Studio is free

[oak quail]

I either installed something else, or done something wrong..because it says my 30 day trial has ended

[silver crown]

Enterprise maybe?

Use VS Community

[oak quail]

I'll try that, thank ya :D

VS Community 2017 I guess?

[silver crown]

Yep

[viral herald]

hey guys

im new here and was wondering where the help section was?

[languid shard]

@viral herald what kind of help do you seek ? 😄

[viral herald]

pretty much im new in unreal

and well

i am uploading a model and it acted up

https://gyazo.com/3cbea258b1fbd3a8e07eaf51de04de07

this is my model

https://gyazo.com/ae4e0ed2e661112c8daac3b00c830256

this is what gets uploaded

[languid shard]

hmm

looks like it only exported the bones 😂

[viral herald]

nope

if you look closely, the model is there in the center

[languid shard]

if you talk about the 4 pixels over the grey floor, okay

[viral herald]

yea

[languid shard]

it still shouldn't have exported all these bone models

[viral herald]

XD

[languid shard]

using blender right ?

[viral herald]

yea

every thing gets exported

[languid shard]

I've got no clue when it comes to blender 😦

[viral herald]

i found a walk around, by merging all the objects into one object

though i don't know if it will consequences later

also

whe uploading my textures to the hair cards

its uploading the whole png instead of just what it was UV mapped for

https://gyazo.com/09a118b317eaaeda7ea82d5810e5d2bf

[languid shard]

wel

you'll need to work on the materials

it won't magically work

[viral herald]

it did for the other 2 textures

[languid shard]

I suggest you have a look at the unreal engine docs and tutorials on youtube

[viral herald]

guess i will have to

[oak quail]

No it's still the same thing

30 days trial has ended, still not understanding what I am doing wrong on a Free Visual Studio thingy

It says it's free, but when I open it, the trial ended, but I thought it's perma-free

[plush yew]

It is perma free

Did you sign in with your account?

[oak quail]

Do you litteraly pay in Private Data instead of cash?

Because I did not sign in ;-;

[silver crown]

You need to sign in

There's no private data involved

[oak quail]

Weird system

[digital anchor]

@viral herald do you have correct scale

[viral herald]

i did

i re adjusted the scale for all objects/materials befoer export

[digital anchor]

0.01 somewhere

eighter on world scale or export scale

[viral herald]

it was all re scaled

https://gyazo.com/5d89fe02a8b058a4c33a370f7f4841da?token=8c1d6b9a4c885befcd338099580a4c33

@languid shard

got everthiong but preansparency

doesnt look to bad

[oak quail]

Another thing that I need to know..

How to I use Visual Studio with the Unreal Engine?

[frosty bloom]

@oak quail this is the first thing in the list if you google just that(How to I use Visual Studio with the Unreal Engine?) : https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-us/Programming/Development/VisualStudioSetup

[oak quail]

Thanks a bunch :D

I don't know why , but I couldn't find smthing like that

[oak quail]

After installing everything, getting rid of some stuff, following the browser's guide

Same thing

[raven cedar]

you do have VS installed, correct? and the correct version?

[oak quail]

I installed the 2017 Community one

[raven cedar]

And you are making a C++ project?

[oak quail]

Yeh

[raven cedar]

your SS shows us nothing, btw

you have write permissions to all the places in tha folder?

and what version of UE? 4.19?

[oak quail]

4.18.3

And write permissions?

[raven cedar]

yes

as in, you can

[oak quail]

I don't get what you mean by that

New to this

[raven cedar]

you have the ability to make files inside the folder for that project

if you dont understand OS level permissions :\

[oak quail]

I do have permissions to do stuff there

[raven cedar]

write persmission?

is there an SLN in that folder?

[oak quail]

Yeah there is one

I'm probably doing something bad, and it's probably pretty obvious :I

[raven cedar]

sounds like something got fuxked in install honestly

[oak quail]

Probably..but I myself can't seem to figure this out

[raven cedar]

you have the win SDK installed?

only thing I can think they need outside everything else

[oak quail]

I wish I would just share screen this, because I'm lost

I think, I don't know

[raven cedar]

seems like its a known issue for ubuntu

https://github.com/dotBunny/CLionSourceCodeAccess/issues/91

most likely its just a core issue

[languid shard]

looks a lot better @viral herald !

[viral herald]

https://gyazo.com/2c57f97c93e5b787ced0c08bdc40986d

[languid shard]

you'll have to handle transparency within your material

[viral herald]

finished it

aparently

it was a small thing

[languid shard]

😃

[viral herald]

came out pretty nice

[oak quail]

So how do I continue on?

[raven cedar]

use unity

[oak quail]

And learn a new language ...

Geez, I've been using C++ for years now

[raven cedar]

C# is a C lang

me too

[oak quail]

Welp, I guess that's my only choice

[raven cedar]

30 in fact

[oak quail]

Either that, or trying to find out the damn issue

[raven cedar]

that link I posted they fixed it

but its fixed in their source copy

dont suppose you want to rebuild the engine yourself 😄

[oak quail]

Myeah

I'll probably find someone to just dunno, share screen it, doing whatever, or just find a person IRL that knows stuff like this

Nobody seems to know soo myeah XD This is harder than I expected

Not really good with computeers , and finding the problem might take damn years :I

[urban gyro]

Guys, IsValid returns false if the input is Null yes?

[frosty bloom]

yes

[urban gyro]

so there is no way for it to kill an execution chain

[frosty bloom]

unless something isn't valid that is

[urban gyro]

yeah my point is the macro will always fire off one of the pins

[frosty bloom]

a regular reference/pointer would return false as well if the object isn't valid/pending destroy

[urban gyro]

ok thanks bbro

[frosty bloom]

no problem!

[urban gyro]

One more thing, been bothering me for a while, Is there a way to DELETE a node, but keep the connection to the next one.

Like if you have BeginPlay -> Delay -> PrintStr and u wanna delete the Delay node but not break the wires?

[frosty bloom]

In blueprints? Wouldn't you just re connect the execution pin?

[urban gyro]

yeah i mean, not have it break

like save urself the reconnection step

in Substance its super neat, don't like a node, ctrl+del and connection stays

just without the node

[frosty bloom]

Ah, I see. Yeah I wouldn't know, haven't been using BP to much in a while

[urban gyro]

eh its not a big deal, its just a pain in the arse

[dim merlin]

Hey guys.. when is unreal engine going to support svg in the ui? or is that already possible?

[urban gyro]

i didnt know it doesnt

why not flatten them? and have a high res png

[dim merlin]

ofcource yeah thats possible

[urban gyro]

well SVG's are good for scaling, but then there's a max limit to how much u gonna scale em anyway

I've seen people use Font materials to bypass that, but it seems not worth the trouble

[dim merlin]

heh, ive actually done that to 😉

[urban gyro]

well, then theres that: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/svg-importer-plugin#

[dim merlin]

just creating a font with icons

[urban gyro]

is this for menu?

[dim merlin]

well just like borders and such

as vectors are scalable.. i believe it might be even better to use vectors instead of images .. 😉

[urban gyro]

I remember someone from epic mentioning svgs could have performance detriment, but it seems a moot point with modeern hardware

that was 2 years ago that i was digging though

so dont quote me 😄

[dim merlin]

what about the 'old' games.. i remember they used flash ??

im not sure how its called

'scaleform' or so

[cloud cobalt]

Flash games

[urban gyro]

U mean the Newgrounds games ?

[vale osprey]

That plugin turns your svg into a distance field and then you use material to render it

[cloud cobalt]

Scaleform is Flash embedded into game engines like UE

[urban gyro]

yeah those chugged when u get a lot of things

[vale osprey]

So yes, it has performance impact but it’s small

[dim merlin]

@cloud cobalt indeed. i mean that

[cloud cobalt]

Scaleforms was for menus in games, not primarily for game dev.

[dim merlin]

i think when ue can import svg, scaleform becomes nothing ..

[cloud cobalt]

was/is

SVGs are just images though

[vale osprey]

Scaleform is not just svg

[cloud cobalt]

Scaleform was images + code + an UI library

[vale osprey]

^

[cloud cobalt]

Much more than just SVG

[dim merlin]

@cloud cobalt svg has actual data about points

[cloud cobalt]

SVG is not an UI framework

It's an image format

Scaleform is a C++ runtime that processes vector images with a programming language and a nice library

[dim merlin]

svg is a image format, when if the common programs read it 😉

but it has data that can be converted into unreal engine curves

[vale osprey]

Well, that doesn’t mean much

It’s not only lines

[dim merlin]

curves *******

sry

[cloud cobalt]

Long story short, if you're looking into UI development, vector images aren't exactly usual

They're the opposite of usual, really

[vale osprey]

No only curves, it’s shapes too - not just outlines but surfaces

[cloud cobalt]

Most games strive to have UI rendering at 1:1 resolution, which obviously can be troubling on PC

[dim merlin]

@vale osprey ure refferring to UI still? (not 3d mesh? )

[vale osprey]

Yes

[dim merlin]

yeah thats a good thing

[vale osprey]

Look at the tiger from that plugin^

To have some color of the “fill” you need more than lines

[dim merlin]

so okay what about.. how 'big' would the images be .. for example like a menu background?

would it just a mather of 4k?

[cloud cobalt]

IMHO, the range of valid resolutions for games doesn't justify vector images. 720p is pretty much a minimum today everywhere, and 4K is a hard limit that almost no gamer already hits

Depending on your game, you can either author everything for 4K and scale it down, or you can have fluid layouts with fixed-pixel-size items

[dim merlin]

@cloud cobalt thats sounds as a good advise

thanks

[cloud cobalt]

Our UI is basically meant for 4K and downscaled

It doesn't work for every kind of game - pixel art UI wouldn't work as well

But for our setup, it's great

[urban gyro]

Just rasterize everything at 8k and use that 😄 Memory be damned.

[cloud cobalt]

No one even plays at 4K yet

[dim merlin]

@urban gyro 😄 yea 😛

[urban gyro]

yeah, but that RAZOR SHARP QUALITY BRO

[cloud cobalt]

4K is 0.71% of Steam

[urban gyro]

i like my health bars to be eyegougingly defined 😄

futureproofing

[dim merlin]

i still believe svg can actually take all the images on performance @urban gyro

svg or vector

[cloud cobalt]

Future-proofing is today's 4K

Most gamers really use 1080p

[vale osprey]

@urban gyro it won’t look good actually, without some proper downsampling

[cloud cobalt]

1080p is 72% of gamers, let that sink in. It's huge.

[urban gyro]

1080p i think is the sweet spot tbh. For 4k u need a huge monitor that requires u to move ur head

that, or have it far away enough to kinda neutralize the extra res

[vale osprey]

There are 20’ 4K screens

[urban gyro]

yeah but then how much of it are u gonna actually see

[vale osprey]

Simplest example is IPad

Well, 20’ would be almost smallest desk monitor

There are laptops which are even smaller

Work laptop is 17’ I think, very !fun! to use win7 at its native resolution

[urban gyro]

please, i still have a VGA 15' dell monitor sitting on my desk

thats a nightmare 😄

[pallid compass]

Anyone got a good blog post i could read on procedurally generating maps, waiting for full engine re clone and build 😦

[waxen wedge]

@oak smelt what sort of maps? dungeons? islands? planets?

for overland maps, http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~amitp/game-programming/polygon-map-generation/ is handy. There's a UE4 implementation somewhere on github

[pallid compass]

2d dungeons

[waxen wedge]

@oak smelt I'm actually rewriting my dungeon generator right now. I'm working off the stuff by Dormans made for his PhD + the game unexplored.

[pallid compass]

oh?

[waxen wedge]

Generating Missions and Spaces for Adaptable Play Experiences Joris Dormans and Sander Bakkes

is the paper

[pallid compass]

yeah i just need make a simple 3 layer dungeon flor generator for 2d tiles

you know

[waxen wedge]

directed graphs + graph grammars

[pallid compass]

Floor, decoration and walls

ooo

[waxen wedge]

if you're only worried about spatial that paper won't help

[pallid compass]

Ah yeah its pretty simple

2d squares with walls and a floor and some random bits and bobs 😂

Just never done it before so i thought id search for some info on it

[waxen wedge]

it's more concerned with generating mission structure that is nice. Then there's another piece talking about creating cycles within the mission so the player loops around the level and can see what's coming up by looking across empty spaces, and then finally after generating a cyclic graph describing how the mission should look, you map that graph onto the 2D space to generate the spatial info for the level. Then after that do some tileset stuff and you're done.

if you want something easy + cool do hilbert curves for the high level construction and cellular automata for the detail

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38xLmlomvyE

the start covers CA, but the hilbert curve bit is really nice

[pallid compass]

Jesus thats insane

but so fucking cool haha

[waxen wedge]

heh, I've spent all week trying to build a plugin for doing work with the graph grammars and it's a bit of a slog. NFI what I'm doing and trying to remember stuff from uni.

[pallid compass]

lmfao

Yeah but you know how much growth you will get off this

it be so worth it

[waxen wedge]

yeah, it's fun implementing stuff from papers rather than just making shit up as I go. Makes a nice change.

[pallid compass]

haha yeah

everythin on youtube for dungeon generation is on unity

lmao

so im just watching it anyway

im a sinner

[waxen wedge]

it's all about the concepts. The actual placement of things is pretty simple.

[pallid compass]

yeah i can imagine

im affter really simple tho

[waxen wedge]

the only big decision in UE4 is whether to use streaming levels or actors to represent rooms

[pallid compass]

super basic

like that

lmfao

[waxen wedge]

like a maze?

[pallid compass]

yeah sorta

like that

but then random exit stairs

and mobs placed randomly

iv got everything except the map generation already done

[waxen wedge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maze_generation_algorithm

[pallid compass]

remind me, we dont upgrade the tool kit right?

toolset*

yeah thats what im looking for a guess

maze like

but with more space if u get me

[waxen wedge]

yeah so take that, then pick random rectangles and just open them up

so everything in the rectangle becomes open space

[pallid compass]

oh shit yeah lmao

good idea

[waxen wedge]

start with the maze, but don't make entrance/exits so that the level is closed, and then pick a few nxn areas at random and make every tile in there open.

[pallid compass]

yeah thats a good idea

oh shit i just realised im gonna have to expand on this quite a bit

as my tiles for it are at least 2 thick for walls ops

i think i might need upgrade my kit tbh

actually

u know what i really need to learn

that i keep putting off

https://gamedevelopment.tutsplus.com/tutorials/how-to-use-tile-bitmasking-to-auto-tile-your-level-layouts--cms-25673

bitmask tiling

[waxen wedge]

interesting

[pallid compass]

honestly

[waxen wedge]

when I wrote my crappy tileset system I wanted to make tiles that were bigger than 1x1 matched vs 3x3, so I didn't use bitmasks

[pallid compass]

im really thinking about intergrating it in too the tilemap editor

[waxen wedge]

that let me make a few giant tiles that were hero assets

[pallid compass]

but idk if thats out my reach to do

or even just add a function to umm

UMAP editor

That just

"updates tiles"

and adds the right auto tiling around

[cedar snow]

there's also this approach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwNXtSFQF8Q

link to more documentation in the description

[waxen wedge]

@cedar snow looks like https://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/AAdonaac/20150903/252889/Procedural_Dungeon_Generation_Algorithm.php ?

[cedar snow]

that post actually mentions tiny keep 😄

[waxen wedge]

derp

[cedar snow]

you mentioned proc gen with graph grammar further up, somebody implemented that and released the lua source code for it

looked amazing

this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAtdFKiqs34

[waxen wedge]

I'm partway there: https://streamable.com/232p5

[cedar snow]

nice! so you're implementing that paper?

[waxen wedge]

yeah, I've got branching and lock+key placement done, need to do lock movement and key movement

and I added another one that takes 4 tasks and makes a diamond for multiple paths

I hadn't seen this video before thanks for the link

[cedar snow]

you're welcome

[waxen wedge]

I really like how he has hex grids within the voronoi field, i guess to show man-made areas.

[cedar snow]

i hontestly don't know

really loved the graph editor in the 2nd half of the video

btw. here's the code https://code.google.com/archive/p/demirogue/source and the reddit thread https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1bne5o/graph_grammar_and_voronoi_based_level_generation/

[upbeat tendon]

Does anyone know if anymore paragon assets will be released?

[grim ore]

yes more characters are planned per the original blog post

[frosty bloom]

Projectiles are sooo delicate. It just feezes in spawn location... If i enable physics or Auto activate after they have been shot (detaching myself from character and changing settings on runtime) they fire away as one would suspect.
If i try to do the same thing, in the same manner, but in the code nothing changes. It either just drops to the ground like a rock or stays frozen at spawn location

[sharp crest]

Tryina figure out how to generate actors in a radial "shape" and make them generate from the center out
Anyone have any ideas
Please @ me if you answer

[digital anchor]

left: white light, right: red light

default pp, material is only a color to base color, 0 roughness and specular

Better question would be: can i make light brighten even meshes that doesnt have the same color as the light

[floral heart]

make the red light less 'pure' red

[digital anchor]

yea that works

but why does that happen

[floral heart]

also probably make the surface less pure green

it's a thing with color and light: a 'green' surface is one that reflects only green light
but in most real scenarios there are rarely any purely green surfaces or purely red lights

[digital anchor]

ohh

makes sense tbh xd

so its like mirroring all the green light

[fierce tulip]

its kinda like at night and you drive trough a tunnel with yellow lights, some car colors are almost black

like blue cars

[urban gyro]

Anyone know if FloatingPawnMovement replicates?

cuz its weird that the higher the netupdate speed is the slower it goes.

[upbeat tendon]

I hope they release the ui assets

From paragon

[pallid compass]

certain things wont get released

Like core segments of code

UI code

prob not UI art assets

etc

can u increase a int by a ref?

im gonna assume this will work lmao

[safe rose]

@pallid compass is it just by one?

You can just use IncrementInt

[lyric owl]

there is no way to make curve handle longer?

[pallid compass]

By X amounts so

i thought id tried that

[obsidian nimbus]

i wouldnt split fortnite and unreal launcher, when some1 plays fortnite hes only 1 click away from downloading UE4 😛

well if playing on pc 😛

[worn granite]

the fornite launcher could still link to UE4 or something

[safe rose]

should def be two diff launchers

it's sad when an actual dev tries to log in, and they can't because of fornite players

(in queue)

[obsidian nimbus]

havent had the launcher give me a que yet

just when i launch fortnite

most of the times u wont event need the launcher

just launch the project

[livid haven]

WRT splitting launchers, I don't think that would change the login queue stuff.

Ultimately, Epic accounts are Epic accounts.

[obsidian nimbus]

a few of these players gunna make a robo recall mod thats awwsome and one of em is gunna make a hit game

[livid haven]

Logging in to any Epic account ultimately has to hit the same servers somewhere.

[obsidian nimbus]

those 14year olds getting UE4 is gunna be gold for epic later on 😛

[urban gyro]

Assuming they dont give up

[obsidian nimbus]

some will some wont

[livid haven]

It's not just a matter of whether any of these people actually end up producing royalties for Epic

It also means there will be more people with knowledge and experience using UE4, which means it's easier for a studio to pick an engine for which they can easily hire people with competency right out of the gate.

[obsidian nimbus]

this is why making moves is free and there is no subscription anymore

[livid haven]

Rather than having to deal with more inefficiencies in onboarding new employees without familiarity.

[obsidian nimbus]

you need like 0 skill to get started on making something like a basic scene or a sequence

its not like UE3

friend of mine does gtaV machinima...

makes some good stuff... he wanted me too try do some of that

im like... yo editor... controller dat shit dont mix

[sharp crest]

Hey is there a way to montior fps?

[obsidian nimbus]

stat FPS

[sharp crest]

I mean

[obsidian nimbus]

in console

[sharp crest]

For hmm

For it to show the fps for the minute

[obsidian nimbus]

and do stat unit too

the profiler

[sharp crest]

how do you open that? the profiler @obsidian nimbus

oh

profile data visualizer?

[obsidian nimbus]

https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-us/Engine/Performance

[sharp crest]

I want to monitor fps not cpu? Sorry if it's on the page and I missed it

[obsidian nimbus]

its not super easy at start, its kinda advanced

https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Engine/Performance/CPU

if u do stat unit,. the GAME is cpu

frame is directly related to fps and draw is gpu

[sharp crest]

I guess I'm just going to make a UI visualizer that saves the fps lol

https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/kantan-charts

Perfect :p

[obsidian nimbus]

well if u dont wunna use the profiler u can just capture the fps in an array by tick i guess

but just learn the profiler, its good

if some1 here asks why his fps is low i can tell him to send a screen of the profiler.. and i can tell him all his shit be broken

its a tool to live by

[copper wing]

Hi

Question

[loud phoenix]

Is Unreal Engine support available on weekends (emails submitted to Epic)? We lost our FTP login for console files but are worried we may have to wait until Monday to get a response with a recovery link.

[copper wing]

I wanted to know if it’s possible to find animation like dark souls, bloodborne and bosses for multiple phases?

[fierce tulip]

@loud phoenix they are afk during the weekend.

I think (though @elfin jacinth might respond) they just left

[livid haven]

It would be 7:30 PM on a Friday at HQ right now.

[fierce tulip]

@({Desolation}) Fear#6212 if its not on the mp, not really

fricking summer time stuff, I thought it wa 5:30 over there hehe

[loud phoenix]

Thanks @fierce tulip

[faint urchin]

Can anyone point me in the direction of a project or template that has lobby/steam integration already set up? I'd rather not work through that right now.

[zenith flower]

What channel do I visit to get unreal to recognize the fact that the dedicated gpu always hides behind the integrated in a laptop?

Or who do I talk to

[fierce tulip]

answerhub/forums seems to be best shot at that @zenith flower

[zenith flower]

um... yea...

[fierce tulip]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[urban gyro]

it runs on the integ gpu for u?

u running Nvidia?

[zenith flower]

amd

I have a pre gcn integrated and a post gcn dedicated

I get the "pre gcn adapter detected, some work arounds will be" ect ect

[mortal gale]

Font rendering on Vulkan for Intel HD Graphics needs some work.

[weary basalt]

Looks ok to me

.<

[zenith flower]

LogD3D11RHI: D3D11 adapters:
LogD3D11RHI: 0. 'AMD Radeon HD 8650G' (Feature Level 11_0)
LogD3D11RHI: 2771/0/3840 MB DedicatedVideo/DedicatedSystem/SharedSystem, Outputs:1, VendorId:0x1002
LogD3D11RHI: 1. 'Microsoft Basic Render Driver' (Feature Level 11_0)
LogD3D11RHI: 0/0/7779 MB DedicatedVideo/DedicatedSystem/SharedSystem, Outputs:0, VendorId:0x1414
LogD3D11RHI: Chosen D3D11 Adapter: 0
LogD3D11RHI: AMD Pre GCN architecture detected, some driver workarounds will be in place

[urban gyro]

Cant help u, not familiar with AMD problems

[zenith flower]

this isn't an amd problem

[urban gyro]

how so?

[zenith flower]

OCCT runs the dedicated just fine

using dx11

[weary basalt]

What version are you using?

Pretty sure there was an mention of an fix for something like this in 4.20

Something about the engine not using the primary adapter for some reason

[zenith flower]

Well the primary adapter IS the integrated, and HP laptops do not let you change this

[weary basalt]

Oh...

[zenith flower]

While I can deal with this in the editor, I cannot deal with this in production ready games, such as fortnite or paragon, or even my own game

[weary basalt]

The feq

Honestly you shouldnt be doing production on an laptop lol

[urban gyro]

then thats not an engine fault

if all game executables run on ur integrated by default

[zenith flower]

um... yea... yea it is... works fine on other software using dx11, detecting the SAME adapters

I'm aware of that

I already have set that up in the radeon settings, however unreal chooses to ignore this

[urban gyro]

Have you dug around in BaseHardware.ini?

[zenith flower]

While the laptop may be old, it actually does just fine

[urban gyro]

iirc you can see some info there

[zenith flower]

quad core, 3.2 turbo, 16gb ram, dual gpu, ssd

The only reason I need the integrated disabled, is because its an a10 apu, so if I use the integrated, it heats up the cpu, and downclocks the turbo, all the way down to 1800mhz

[urban gyro]

get ice 😄

[zenith flower]

lol, yea... I've been thinking about spending $$ on dry ice for my gaming needs xD

A few pounds a day should do?

[urban gyro]

i found this in WindowsEngine.ini

[Engine.DeviceConfiguration]
ConfigClass=/Engine/DeviceProfiles/SetDeviceProfileWindows.SetDeviceProfileWindows_C

[zenith flower]

I carefully chose this laptop, it has a dual pipe heatsink

[urban gyro]

you may be able to change something there

[zenith flower]

Well for example I cant get to that in fortnite

[weary basalt]

Ive never used an Laptop extensively but i wonder if plugging in an external Monitor to the GPU will force it to use that as primary?

[zenith flower]

only GameUserSettings.ini

[urban gyro]

what does fortnite have to do with anything lol

[zenith flower]

I am on a 4k 55" tv as we speak

[weary basalt]

Mmm

[zenith flower]

because, I can't force it to use the dedicated, paragon included (before it shutdown)

[urban gyro]

oic, i thought u wanted to solve it for ue4

[zenith flower]

Like I said, OCCT detects the integrated only, but knows to look behind it to find the dedicated

ue4 = fortnite

[urban gyro]

no..

[fierce tulip]

lol

[zenith flower]

uh yea

[urban gyro]

k

[zenith flower]

I guess fortnite doesnt use unreal engine

must be blizzard then eh?

[weary basalt]

Fortnite uses CryEngine 6

[fierce tulip]

using ue4 is way different than playing an ue4 based game

[zenith flower]

lol

[urban gyro]

it was made in GameMaker

[zenith flower]

WannaCry 6.4

[weary basalt]

CryMeARiver 1337

[urban gyro]

u mean 31337 😛

[zenith flower]

oh, you got trump'd

[urban gyro]

i think the problem is with ur platform and not the engine, or the game

[zenith flower]

okay, I'll tell OCCT that they must have Gods for programmers

[urban gyro]

occt is hardware tester

[zenith flower]

yea and?

it works

whats your point?

[weary basalt]

Can you disable it in Device Manager?

[urban gyro]

thheres a difference between something operating, and working with other applications

[zenith flower]

tried that xD

[weary basalt]

Gah

Why so difficult

[urban gyro]

cuz HP 😄

u ever tried to disassemble one?

i;d rather dig a pool in Sahara

[zenith flower]

I thought that was clever too, but here is why:
Integrated = Primary
Dedicated is "Linked" to Primary

I tear my laptop apart a lot

[urban gyro]

the monitor hinges on those things are crap

ok i know how u can solve ur problem

[fierce tulip]

https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/19612/nvidia-optimus-always-using-intel-gpu.html the last few comments might be interesting

[zenith flower]

Thats how I got a dual gpu motherboard (apu + gpu) in it. (Can't buy it ANYWHERE as an actual model) it was some unlisted shit, that didnt even come tattooed from HP

I have that open already, doesn't help

[urban gyro]

id never buy a laptop

anyway

in ur BIOS

disable the integrated

[zenith flower]

I don't go to walmart to buy my laptops

[urban gyro]

that should force the one

I make my own rigs

[zenith flower]

Kensei, I notice you read little, and just spew

Yea, and I just go buy the mother board I want and put it into my laptop frame

[urban gyro]

right, good luck, i cant be arsed anymore with tangental problems

[zenith flower]

well good, its just a repeat of how you treated that poor soul yesterday

You learned nothing from the admin that stepped in

@fierce tulip In that thread, the issue was the Name of the dedicated was incorrectly displayed, but it was actually being used, and also the speed test confirmed

in my case, the log is straight up telling me older hardware is detected and its using workarounds

[weary basalt]

You might just have no choice, if HP ensures that integrated trumps dedicated then thats the end of it

[zenith flower]

While I agree HP is at fault, I still insist, that this is only an issue for unreal based games

OCCT detects the same adapters, but at the bottom, you will see it also shows the dedicated thats "behind" the integrated

And while the performance between the two is roughly the same, by being forced to use the integrated (by unreal) it burns up the cpu and clocks down the cpu and spikes the frame rates

[plush yew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eOaI6wSP5E when is this game coming?

[safe rose]

I'm not going to add crap to this, but damn that gpu is old @zenith flower

[distant finch]

is there a difference between unreal studio and unreal engine?

[zenith flower]

yea I know

[safe rose]

I am surprised it even can min specue4