Or is it just the build data
#ue4-general
random sapphire
pallid compass
just build data
click the save all button
then untick the build data
and save everything else
serene shale
@grim ore Thanks for your time, I'll let you know if I get it working.
pallid compass
so suddenly when ever laptop is in high performance mode out of no where, cpu usage stays 100% locked and full and is apparently being used by system idle
y u do dis 2 me windows?
alright iv seen it all now
get this
the smaller my game screen
the more frames i lose
thats at like
800x600 or some shit
but if i put it to 4k nice smooth 60 fps
lmao
wtf
it appears to be window mode i think?
having any of the game window off the screen
lose 50% fps wat
gleaming lotus
When importing an .fbx which has multiple parts is there any way to import them as whole static meshes instead of multiple parts?
pallid compass
yeah theres tickbox on import
pallid compass
np
grim ore
heh.. Fortnite on a 4" iphone is... special
paper kernel
why would you do that
plush yew
hey does virtuall memory help if my pc freeze when using unreal ?
grim sinew
Nope
silver crown
virtual memory = swap?
silver crown
It should help then no?
silver crown
I see
south ridge
If you have anything other than UE4 running, the entire system quickly crawls to a halt
I remember when I didn't have enough RAM. It was a race to task manager, if I managed to kill some process in 15 seconds, I wouldn't need to reset later
silver crown
Now that you say it, I remember windows having a 50GB swapfile and still freezing
plush yew
maybe the hard drive/ ssd is too slow to swap
i think it helped me alot since i increased it to 20 gb. i have 8 gb ram only.
silver crown
I think it can adapt its size?
plush yew
yeah, i think i should change it to system manage
plush yew
just an old pc that i feel so lucky to have... i built it in 2012. it has a gigabyte mobo. tbh it was just a perfect deal exchange with a p3
visual beacon
heard of petscop
visual beacon
what do you mean
regal mulch
Stop spaming.
regal mulch
We are currently not keeping people for long that can't behave.
So take this as your only warning.
regal mulch
Please move offtopic discussion, such as Fortnite, to #lounge
Also read #more-resources
keen birch
That looks like an area light o.O
keen birch
Or is that the demo shot for the different skylighting system they made?
keen birch
That's a pretty common thing with UE4's static lighting
rustic panther
I think there's ways to fix it
keen birch
Yeah, that's a screenie demoing 4.18's new multi-bounce skylighting
plush yew
https://i.imgur.com/2EbLkau.png what's wrong with this
keen birch
Because that also works on emissive meshes, so that big shiny wall is basically an area light
That depends on what you want to do, what you want to see and what you're seeing and thinking is wrong about that
rustic panther
you have too many lights touching
keen birch
You mean the cross through the icon?
plush yew
yeah
keen birch
Then yeah, too many intersecting lightst
plush yew
how do I fix that?
rustic panther
less lights touching lol
keen birch
Reduce the amount of lights close to each other
plush yew
just set the range smaller?
rustic panther
that is a solution too
patent siren
did they just release art assets
or are they gonna release any code assets
from paragon
sullen isle
I really hope that they will release some code
patent siren
i just want that anim code
gentle crypt
I seem to be getting 1 friend requests everyday on my epic games launcher is there a way to stop this?
rustic panther
stop being so friendly
gentle crypt
๐
bitter edge
After upgrading to 4.19 our character meshes are acting like they are set to hidden in game when in reality they are not. I can get the capsule collider to show up (or anything else that is attached to a character bp), but, character meshes are invisible. I've triple checked that the mesh is set to show in game and is set visible in editor. I placed a set visibility node on tick to make sure that its set to show up up every frame and that does not work.
Anyone else run into this issue after upgrading?
pallid compass
would advice u go to a backup
not the best idea to jump too the latest version of the engine
frosty bloom
https://gyazo.com/38d210040a985c91704167f9b64211f7
That is what I call Hide & Seek skills
pallid compass
lmfao wtf
cinder iron
@frank escarp hi, could you remind me why you don't recommend git lfs? I remember you said you had a bad experience with it back in the day
weak thunder
Is it just me? is combat weird on unreal engine?
pallid compass
combat weird
what
thats like saying is it just me or is this painting in this art kit weird?
worn granite
I'd say that's like saying the text entry in mudbox is weird
pallid compass
lmao
weak thunder
its hard to put my finger on it but its like most combat... you just don't feel any impact.
Characters strafe or glide on the ground.
Its like skyrim's hack and slash with its odd movements.
silver crown
@cinder iron Cuz it sucks
worn granite
That's not an Unreal problem
pallid compass
ohh that
rustic panther
lol thats not an unreal problem
silver crown
Unless you have a 100TB SSD
frosty bloom
heh...
pallid compass
Impact and feed back is as good as the people who make it
rustic panther
unreal makes games?
pallid compass
then sloppy devs then
frosty bloom
^^
worn granite
I've worked on a combat game in UE4 and when it was using my code it felt right and then we brought on another person and his code was used and it destroyed the feel of combat
cinder iron
@silver crown could you please pm me specifics? I would appreciate it so much. Problems that you had and things you noticed.
worn granite
Don't ask me why my code wasn't used, it wasn't my call
weak thunder
well paragon, ark survival and conan among the few i have seen using Unreal
silver crown
@cinder iron Let's move to #source-control
pallid compass
impact requires alot of things like, Camera shake, animation, visual feedback and audio
weak thunder
they all seem to suffer from the same issue
cinder iron
Better if you feel like
weak thunder
unless you are using guns hand to hand combat just looks and feel odd
worn granite
Its hard to get right, UE4 is easy to learn nowadays
So its easier to get a game released with subpar combat
rustic panther
when you have an easily accessible platform a lot of projects made with it won't be excellent
I don't agree with your examples either
weak thunder
then is there a game that does combat right with the unreal engine?
any success stories?
pallid compass
Gears of war
rustic panther
it doesnt really have to be made with unreal to be a good example
worn granite
Can't point to one, sorry, but I can tell you as an experienced freelancer that the engine has nothing to do with how final mechanics feel.
pallid compass
infinity blade
rustic panther
you can achieve the same elements with any engine
weak thunder
@pallid compass really?
worn granite
For instance, find me a game made with RPG maker which isn't Undertale and is a good RPG
worn granite
oh no rpg maker is really bad for making good RPGs
pallid compass
quickly covers ue4 project up
weak thunder
I think you fellas are taking this way too personal
pallid compass
worn granite
I think you're reading too far into my messages
pallid compass
dont look the rpg maker shame ๐
worn granite
Wanna make a 2d game? Don't use Unreal.
worn granite
Wanna make a 3D game that involves combat? Use unreal if its comfortable.
pallid compass
nah we are just pulling at u
worn granite
It won't help/hinder combat
pallid compass
the engine is only as good as its users
worn granite
@pallid compass Wanna make a 2d game? Don't use Unreal.
pallid compass
screw u fam its great for 2d
worn granite
the hell it is
pallid compass
u just gotta expand every class ever
LOL
actually ngl
im about 10 seconds away from re writing the tile map system
weak thunder
so... for the sake of argument.
The Zelda BOTW seemed to have good combat, enemys reacted to your blows, good sound effects, good physics and etc...
Lets compare... Ark survival (the worst offender)
what is happening? What went wrong?
pallid compass
I keep thinking about it every day ๐
worn granite
if you want reasons to avoid UE4 I can give you those. But Ue4 has nothing to do with combat mechanics.
pallid compass
Same thing we said before
DEVS
ark has the worst devs
u can imagine
like u go inside there SDK
and HOLY FUCK
pallid compass
Its like everything u shouldnt do in 1 package
worn granite
Zelda BOTW is made by an experienced first party team with all the budget nintendo can use. Ark is a 3rd party indie that got lucky and blew up.
Also Arks focus wasn't combat.
weak thunder
Well what rules did nintendo follow to make a good combat system that ark didn't?
pallid compass
look at paragon's combat
worn granite
ALSO their executable is shootergame.exe
pallid compass
it is strong as fuck
worn granite
IIRc
pallid compass
It feels good
The game may not be addictive, but the combat feels fluid and strong
Nintendo arent potato
weak thunder
@pallid compass paragon still stafes and glides while hitting opponents
pallid compass
Ur asking questions with massive amounts of content too them
u might as well say "how do i be gud dev"
cinder iron
@weak thunder to sum up it doesnt depend on the engine it depends on the implementation, the animations and the game design. Thats all.
worn granite
UE4 has tools to help with footslide. Whether that's prioritized over network smoothing is up to the developer.
worn granite
maybe in testing they decided footslide is acceptable if it makes the game flow better.
rustic panther
BOTW being single player allows them to do a lot of things you can't in a multiplayer game
weak thunder
I was more asking "hey guys can you point me to a UE4 game that does not suffer from these issues"
pallid compass
weak thunder
rather than a fix all pill
frosty bloom
i love that chinese dude
been following him since months back. He got some git gud level skills
rustic panther
that video is sick
pallid compass
Yeah the animation and flow is fucking solid man
i love it
So good for such a "random guy"
weak thunder
whoa thats pretty sweet
pallid compass
sort of thing
weak thunder
that little robot dude is not gliding on the ground at all
worn granite
Sadly, this is a Unity fake. You can tell by the way the feet move. 
rustic panther
I think they made it in RPG maker
worn granite
I've heard that's possible too.
Unfortunately, RPG Maker can't do progress bars like that.
rustic panther
lmao
worn granite
Could be Cry Engine
pallid compass
true dat
worn granite
but its not using the crysis HUD
narrow pasture
alright i need help with a constant crash im running into, i can't find anything related to it online its related to a "Assertion failed: SetWindowRgn( HWnd, Region, false ) " problem.
worn granite
so I'm skeptical
frosty bloom
Well, not to be dropping the hammer here. It's made in paint
pallid compass
pretty sure thats a c++ function for defining the location of a targeted program
narrow pasture
ah, i could send the error log
worn granite
No idea what'd be triggering that error tbh
pallid compass
one sec i might be able to tell u
time to search engine source
start prayin its in there
There is one call for it
in WinUser
.h
Jesus
winuser.h
is used in alot of external stuff
ye gl tracking that down fam
cinder iron
Editor symbols !
And check the callstack
If it crashes in editor you will solve it with your eyes closed
pallid compass
hope u got 10gb of free space for them debug symbols
narrow pasture
blegh
pallid compass
omg
cinder iron
Hahahhaha
pallid compass
i spent 4 hours in a material today
now im not sure what to do
iv got a million things to do but my brain is full of material editor nodes
cinder iron
Hahaha
plush yew
Hey there guys, just about getting ready to work on my voxely, minecraftey world stuff. Wanted to make sure - should I be handling generation, saving, loading, etc. of my world chunks in the GameMode? Not asking for a full tutorial, but a nudge in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
narrow pasture
how can unreal crash on a D3D device lost when im running OpenGL
safe rose
heh
I've gotten that one too many time @narrow pasture
4.18?
And what Graphics Card
narrow pasture
4.18 and 4.19, im using a i7 8550u and an AMD 540
its a laptop
supposedly a fix is coming in 4.20
sinful umbra
zenith flower
narrow pasture
thats alot of unreal
worn rain
cries
that's months of my life upgrading unreal engines ๐ฆ
I've filled a terabyte drive with engine installs. the engine likes to eat disk space
github engine users unite
floral heart
suddenly, unapproved threads visible on the forum!
sadly can't read them
unless you look at them from Latest Activity
latent pivot
has anyone run into the bug where hot reloading completely resets all blueprints and their data when their parents are a C++ class?
livid haven
Under no circumstances should you use hot reload. Period. ๐
latent pivot
really...? devs around here don't use hot reloading at all?
livid haven
Oh, I'm sure some people do. And continue to suffer.
latent pivot
cool. so is the normal workflow to run ue4editor from visual studio and attach to the process, test your changes, then abort and repeat?
livid haven
Yep.
While it takes longer to shut down and start up the engine and editor and all that jazz, it's reliable.
Hot reload is absolutely not reliable.
latent pivot
yeah i've wasted a lot of time with it
weary basalt
Can concur with Sion. HR is more trouble than its worth. Certainly do not recommend it.
latent pivot
many thanks, this is good info
worn granite
Yeah would agree, don't HR.
gray basin
I have my model made and rigged who will animate
floral heart
#work-in-progress
golden idol
anyone good at making a map? need an outline done for me for an island?
odd hornet
Generally you should make a blueprint with BSP and then model it out
golden idol
BSP?
odd hornet
Yeah, BSP shapes. It'll be under the "geometry" tab, you can configure them to meet any shape that you'd really want.
ornate juniper
Hey guys! does anyone know why one of my BP's isn't showing up in the content browser? https://gyazo.com/1c2914b42f499f12e9680dc342873ad6
slate cloud
Guys 2 Questions on the Epic Launcher
it dosent show the compatible engine edition right now correct? (bug)
......and you cant update the Vault too?
can somebody check their launcher for me?
thank you in advance
low vortex
should i keep using 4.19 or download 4.18?
tame thistle
A little bit ago I updated my Nvidia driver, and it seems that they combined Ansel with Shadowplay. In doing this, I am not unable to use Ansel with my projects, it keep saying cannot run on unsupported games. I have it running, and I have whitelist-everything enabled. At this point I'm downgrading to an older driver, because I need Ansel for my projects and as far as I can tell there is no solution. Is anyone else having this issue?
worn ocean
is the Udemy UE4 Multiplayer game with C++ tutorial good? it was released last December has anyone tried it
lethal star
anyone else just had their epic games account locked?
cloud cobalt
@lethal star What kind of account ? One with Fortnite or one with only UE4 ?
lethal star
UE4
just my general epic account, i think someone tried to login from the big leak list
cloud cobalt
Haven't suffered from that no
lethal star
just curious, thought someone might be trying to brute force some accounts
frank escarp
@lethal star its russians trying to bruteforce passwords from the leaked list
or at least russian ips
cloud cobalt
Bruteforcing passwords is useless since Epic has 2FA now
frank escarp
they still try to bruteforce the 2FA
frank escarp
yes
cloud cobalt
One more reason why we should never have shared accounts or a shared launcher for the engine and games
obsidian nimbus
BUT FORTNITE STUFF ISNT TRADABLE RIGHT?
cloud cobalt
I really miss the pure-UE4 days when we paid a small subscription and didn't have to suffer from game-related outages
obsidian nimbus
oops caps
lethal star
hack account, change password, sell acount
obsidian nimbus
send email, get account back
lethal star
yea, im not sure about their angle either
frank escarp
they still sold the account
obsidian nimbus
no1 buys complete accounts
frank escarp
for money
lethal star
^
frank escarp
people do
people are idiots
glad we dont have direct item trading in fortnite
it would become far more extreme if it did
wary wave
they don't sell the accounts, generally
they find accounts with CC details in them and buy the expensive Fortnite edition with the extra key
then sell that key
frank escarp
oh
obsidian nimbus
you know an account you buy is registered to another email that isnt urs so ppl can reset the passw
cloud cobalt
People buy game keys on shady websites too, fully knowing they might be stolen, already registered or entirely invalid to start with
cloud cobalt
People do dumb stuff for money
frank escarp
they are basicaly monopoly on trading stolen keys
cloud cobalt
It's not like they're really risking anything @wary wave
frank escarp
if g2a regionlocked russia, it would go completely empty
obsidian nimbus
mehh u got hackers everywhere
cant point a finger at russia for every bad thing that happens
cloud cobalt
It doesn't help that Epic had our credentials leaked something like 15 times already
obsidian nimbus
hell the news here was pointing to russia for some bank ddos.. ow its soo advanced it has to be gov operated
frank escarp
@obsidian nimbus most of the scam attempts ive gotten were russian
obsidian nimbus
turns out it was some local kiddy here on vpn
obsidian nimbus
most scam attempts im gettin are comin from india
frank escarp
every attempt from a russian IP
cloud cobalt
The game key scams I receive are from all over the world myself, though Russia is definitely one of the sources
frank escarp
yeah, indians too
the spam attempts in epic games forums have been mostly indian, chinese, or russian
cloud cobalt
Most of the time it's a legit-looking gmail address, though
frank escarp
yeh, but they spot themselves as russian commonly
obsidian nimbus
most good tor clients go over russian IPs, that says nothing
obsidian nimbus
any1 doin passw bruteforce has his ip masked
lethal star
speaking of bad security, who remembers runescape...up till this day they still dont have case sensitive passwords XD
frank escarp
i wonder why the hacking ips are pretty much every timee russian
are there lots of cheap "zero fucks" VPNs there?
lethal star
decent internet, authorities that generally dont give a shit about cybercrime unless puts the state in a bad light
obsidian nimbus
just sayin whats popular to use... if u get hack attempts from russian IP it says nothing about where the guy really is
grim ore
Anyone happen to have any hints on what I might be missing getting IAB to work in a BP project. Google Play. Read In App Purchase Info always returns back a failure =/
final owl
=/
soft swan
So, my account is locked for "2 hours" permanently since couple of days (i don't play fortnite at all), however I received only a single e-mail. Is there a way to reach a support without being logged in ;)? I would like to work with my precious marketplace assets...
grim ore
If you set up two factor you can get back in, besides that your hosed from what I can tell
you can probably make a new account just to get into the launcher if you need it or just fire up the editor from outside the launcher as well.
soft swan
It seems i need to be logged in in order to setup 2fa ๐
languid shard
they really should split their databases
idle garden
How I do a Destructible Mesh?
silver crown
idle garden
so funny
they show a option who is "create destrutible mesh" in the objet, but now doesn't show
silver crown
You need to enable the APEX plugin IIRC @idle garden
plush yew
anyone gotten maya live link setup and does it work with LT?
pallid compass
pretty sure LT dosent allow plugins?
tall pendant
It doesn't.
cloud latch
vivid girder
Can you not get timeline variables from a child blueprint?
pallid compass
should be able too as timelines are components
vivid girder
I can access the delegate functions for the timeline, but can't access the variables
pallid compass
go to timeline variable in components
worn granite
No, that kind of access isn't supported in BP
pallid compass
make sure that u have it set for ughh
can view parent var's
if its not showing up then u prob cant
worn granite
I'm looking at the code, there isn't even a function for that kind of access, and the functions you can build that out of aren't BPCallable
worn granite
The timeline node does some stuff to display the output, but its a special case
vivid girder
Weird, what's even the point of having update delegates
worn granite
I mean. You can do what you want. You just gotta think a lil and do a workaround. :P
vivid girder
I mean, that'd probably work...just surprised they don't allow that functionality
What C++ class are you looking at?
worn granite
UTimelineComponent
vivid girder
On a different note... Niagara
It seems like the source code is already in the engine to some degree, has anybody looked into it?
pallid compass
no idea
But its not ready since its not been pushed in any sort of release yet
Theres just chunks here and there
glass imp
sharp tendon
Hey guys, a noob question but I don't find the answer on the internet. When I apply an animation for my character from mixamo, the animation keeps looping, making my character glitch and look like he is doing the same thing two times. Can you please help me?
I used this tutorial. Thanks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6ZPhld4Q5s&index=5&list=PLL0cLF8gjBpqA8DcrhL_O9kD4jsUqhDR6 Maybe its outdated, can you please help me?
livid haven
The irony of using Baldur from Too Human for a tutorial on anything Unreal related...
sharp tendon
I couldnt understand your answer, can you please tell me what to do?
tall pendant
๐
sharp tendon
I am very new at the program
tall pendant
@sharp tendon just google Silicon Knights vs. Epic Games and you know... ๐
tall pendant
Sorry. I haven't used mixamo at all.
sharp tendon
How you do animations so? do you use the unreal animation pack?
Or do you just do on blender or other animation maker?
tall pendant
mocap data or keyframed animation. Or a mix of both. Really depends on your project. The software i use: Maya and Motion Builder. But you can use Blender or whatever package you like the most.
And theres nothing wrong with mixamo. I just didn't use it. Thats all. hehe ๐
sharp tendon
Thanks mate. ๐ I guess the loops in mixamo are wrong for what I want to do. Ill try to make it work haha Thanks
Okay, for someone who has the same problem, it is a tick on In Place in mixamo , sorry for the trouble guys!
regal mulch
No idea, but you could just search for looping animations in general
Usually it's a simple setting or setup in the animBP
If you have the animation in your graph, you could click it and check if there are settings set to loop
Like this (random google image)
@sharp tendon
sharp tendon
Thanks, I already found the solution, its the first time i make a question and I found the community on this discord very helpful, thanks
mint raptor
I'm confused with unreal's rotation. I'm giving it a 0 to 360 value to add to relative rotation for z and when it loops to 0 it rewinds
What value do I have to give it so that it doesn't rewind with a 0 to 360 value? Even if I try -180 it still does a rewind when it loops
Setting 203 degrees is showing a result of -156?
pallid compass
Give it world and not relative
final tree
Hi, not sure if this is a bug or intended but are you not allowed to drag content around within the content directory? Migrate seems to only be project-to-project.
mint raptor
@pallid compass That doesn't help
Same issue, once it goes from 360 to 0 again or vice versa it rewinds...
livid haven
Something wrong with a MovieScene
mystic fjord
It was not plugged
fickle topaz
hi I'm 100% new but I wanted to make my own game what should i learn
swift spindle
everything.... the main thing is... games do NOT want to be made!
bitter iris
^
Another thing to add to that is your passion for games and the development of them
fickle topaz
what do you mean
mystic fjord
do you guys have this problem?
bitter iris
Nope
mystic fjord
i am experiencing?
fickle topaz
@bitter iris do i need to learn C++?
bitter iris
You can do C++ or Blueprints either way you need to learn both or one
Depending on what you want to do
swift spindle
not at all @fickle topaz
bitter iris
I'm not an expert im learning my self
swift spindle
virtually everything can be done with blueprints
bitter iris
Yup i havent once done C++
fickle topaz
@swift spindle what should i try to do first
swift spindle
@fickle topaz there are example projects in the unreal launcher. Download the one closest in type to your game... learn how things are put together... start making changes to things to get closer to you want... then start pulling them apart and connecting them in new ways... eventually bring in new assets from other places and make new things
snow crown
๐๐ฝ
tame flint
thanks to many tutorials and other examples I was able to create the early stages of my game and learn a little bit about unreal engine. But I have a long way to go!!!! A special thanks to @grim ore
swift spindle
sigh... unreal crashed again =*(
anyone got any tips to get video playback to work properly ?
fickle topaz
Is there like a game jam
swift spindle
@fickle topaz there are many Game jams around. But I'd just get started ๐
fickle topaz
No I don't want to enter
swift spindle
anyone know if Unreal has fixed the video texture memory leaks ?
fickle topaz
I just wanted to see what people are making
swift spindle
fickle topaz
@swift spindle could u recommend any YouTube vids for me to watch cuz I'm currently not on pc since there's a thunder storm and afraid power will go off and my computer broke last time for me using it and the power shut off E.E
swift spindle
@fickle topaz just the epic videos should be fine
fickle topaz
@swift spindle i tried but i can't find any on blue printing for total beginners
swift spindle
@fickle topaz it's really not as hard as it looks.. I started with 0 knowlage of coding myself only a few years ago
fickle topaz
@swift spindle is blender hard?
floral heart
technically it's software
floral heart
16 rams
weary basalt
Anyone quickly know estimated time for release of 4.20?
rustic panther
4/20
weary basalt
har har har
weary basalt
Mmmm sounds about right.
south ridge
Just get it from github if you can't wait ๐
narrow pasture
so i have an object i moving along a spline with a simple transform bp, but when i move or add points to the spline, the thing spins out of control
crisp fable
you need to constrain its up axis
narrow pasture
is there a button for that or is it something i have to do in BP?
or is that what the "Default up vector" is?
paper kernel
direction spline tries to orient itself to
narrow pasture
now its spinning in a different direction
wary wave
morning folks, I have a weird one today
In the editor, when certain actors are visible in the content browser, the output logs are spamming:
"LogSpawn: Warning: SpawnActor failed because class XYZ is abstract"
spawn actor seems to be coming from drawing the thumbnails
wary wave
it's only happening on a handful of classes though, not just all the abstract ones
pallid compass
What ver u on
wary wave
it's particularly weird because these actors haven't been modified since February
pallid compass
Always weird shiz happening
wary wave
I don't get to choose which version we're on sadly, but yeah, I share that sentiment
wary wave
'bug report logs'?
pallid compass
To see if its been reported
wary wave
I tried answerhub
pallid compass
I forgot there name
wary wave
but to be honest the error message is pretty generic
so it's hard to find anything
mostly people who can't work out why they can't spawn their abstract classes...
pallid compass
U could break point the class that sets editor thumbnails but
Ur prob gonna end up going super fucking deep in code
wary wave
I breakpointed the error message itself, but the call stack was not useful
pallid compass
Prob not worth
wary wave
it starts at the editor thumbnails
pallid compass
Well no live editor thumbnails for u until 4.19.2 :,)
wary wave
hah
okay so I know what causes it, thanks to a little group debugging
it is the thumbnails
pallid compass
Oh?
wary wave
if the abstract class has a component that would render something
it tries to render a thumbnail, and to do that, it spawns the actor
but it can't because it's abstract
this is why some abstract actors would cause the issue and not others
they have a default static mesh or whatever
wary wave
abstract class, just like in C++
it's a base class for other classes, that itself cannot be created / spawned
but also I'm relieved this is an engine bug, hahaha
I thought we might be doing something horrible somewhere in native code that would be impossible to find
pallid compass
Oh wtf its trying to thumbnail c++ classes!?
wary wave
no, but it might be a native class that's triggering it, somewhere
wary wave
through some obscure chain of references, trying to spawn it in the editor
yeah, definitely
glad we found the problem quickly, because that's obscure as feck, I could have been on that all day
wary wave
I was looking at our loot manager / spawning systems because I've been working on those recently
but they're complicated
pallid compass
I can imagine omg
random grail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afJBNP9vcJs it's so relaxing
cloud cobalt
What are you trying to do and what doesn't work ?
proven tree
Trying to use boost
or well, amazon aws
and i need to do UEBuildConfiguration.bForceEnableExceptions = true;
but i can't seem to find anyway that would work in rules
cloud cobalt
proven tree
I made it work by editing [ProjectName].Target.cs in the directory above. Adding bForceEnableExceptions = true; there fixed my build so I could use exceptions.
but i can't find the autocomplete there
it should find UEBuildConfiguration right
in vs
cloud cobalt
There isn't autocompletion in the cs files no
glacial belfry
Hey guys, just a question.. I cant seem to find information. In the recent GDC State of Unreal they keep showing an AR ipad that they use a virtual camera tracker for UE. You can see it in the corner here:
https://youtu.be/jwKeLsTG12A?t=1455
I think I heard about them talking about releasing that tool for the masses, but cant find it again.. Anyone knows something about it?
Heres a screenshot ๐
wary wave
that might be custom software, I'm not sure
but the Vive implementation supports something similar I believe
glacial belfry
yeah it is custom. I just remember they mentioned somewhere they would ship that app too
but cant find it again and any information regarding it
They use it later for the realtime raytracing demo
like here: https://youtu.be/jwKeLsTG12A?t=2268
mint raptor
Can someone elaborate on "In first-person mode, the Pawn's mesh is hard-attached to the camera"https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-us/Resources/SampleGames/ShooterGame
honest vale
it means that the pawn mesh follows the camera and not the other way around I guess
mint raptor
I only ask because it seems like when I enable crouch and make the capsule shrink to crouch that "hard-attached" looks more like a soft attached
So IDK why that would happen but I don't even know how they hard-attached to begin with
mint raptor
Ha! Solved it!
plush yew
how would multiple line traces hit performance?
grim ore
test it and find out, the short answer is not much.
plush yew
alright
because the way I'm going about things with interaction is setting up different line traces for different interaction objects
probably a bad idea
safe rose
Guess docs are dead once again @wicked tiger @elfin jacinth ?
this is what I get, can anyone else confirm?
regal mulch
Endless loading
wicked tiger
Np
polar token
I VERY often get Unreal who stop working (doesn't crash, it just loads forever) when I try to import models, any idea where that could come from, or is Unreal that unstable?
regal mulch
Hm, what models are you importing?
Created with what software and using what format?
polar token
fbx in that case.
might want to mention I tend to import from either zbrush and 3ds max, and both often have this problem
regal mulch
Lowpoly?
polar token
500k
regal mulch
Does it load eventually or just freeze?
polar token
Though I already had this problem with meshes with much lower poly
neither
it never loads
nor freezes
well, until I stop it
regal mulch
Weird. Sadly not an artist. Maybe try a different format just to check if FBX has a problem?
gusty widget
@polar token Did you check your task manager performance tab to see if the memory is exceeding the amount of memory your pc can handle?
polar token
hmm, I haven't, but again I had that before with small stuffs, so it's weird.
gusty widget
Hmm yeah it is weird, I only had issues with importing 2000 2k textures at the same time, that was a memory issue ๐
sharp tendon
Hey guys. I made a whole temple in Magica Voxel and I decided to import it to ue4, but as it counts like a whole model, even the air cubes are counting on the colisions. so the character can't even stay in it. Any solutions to my problem? (I only found one but it is extremely hard, which is to make the colisions false on the model and use meshes to work as colisions). Please help me.
gusty widget
@sharp tendon Can't you import the meshes seperately? Importing a whole temple as 1 mesh isn't really a recommended thing to do most of the time ๐
sharp tendon
well, I dont think it would resolve the problem, because I still couldnt enter the temple, maybe with a picture I can explain it better.
gusty widget
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXGW6Vf2rzY you can also use a different mesh for collision, so maybe import it first to a program like 3dsmax, optimize the collision and export it as a seperate collision mesh? ๐
polar token
Hm, seems like it worked with obj
Oh, could it have something to do with the type of fbx?
sharp tendon
Maybe, ill try to do that, thank you so much
gusty widget
@polar token Could be possible, FBX is a standard format but still there can be differences in them depending on which program and fbx version is used I believe
modern kite
he guys could anyone give me a head start for ue4 android developing? im confused of all the thing that i have to do
gusty widget
@sharp tendon You're welcome!
polar token
Seems like I was exporting it at 14/15
I'll try with 16
And it worked right away
heh
gusty widget
@polar token Yeah could be that indeed, not sure why though
polar token
"The UE4 FBX import pipeline uses FBX 2016. Using a different version during export may result in incompatibilities."
Welp
grim ore
@modern kite follow the docs and the guide you can get to by clicking on the android section of the project settings. beyond that you would have to ask for specific help if you get stuck somewhere
modern kite
i already got stuck at installing android sdk its says it cant completly install cause i havent installed visual studio but i it (2017)
@grim ore
grim ore
you used the nvidia installer in the engine directory?
rose kelp
I'm trying to figure out how to optimize mobile materials so I'm looking at 'sun temple' demo materials. Can someone please enlighten me why there are so many mask textures in materials? Doesn't it make build heavier and hits GPU harder? I'd be happy to find a way of 'baking' particular node of material editor to texture and use simplest texture lookup possible to achieve same effect without performing math operations with masks and base textures.
pallid compass
dont use the nvidia installer its shit
run it once
then restart
then find the GUI for android sdk it installs
open that
and get it too install all the shiz
i had ton of issues with that
grim ore
@modern kite it's possible the included installer is the older version, this thread might help and links to the latest installer https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1030169/nsight-tegra-visual-studio-edition/visual-studio-2017-support/ alternately like was said above you can use the manual SDK installers. I never had an issue using codeworks so I just used it to be lazy personally
hazy birch
guys plz answer me ?a teams,made a game with a story and good graphics and they put game plan that is all?
๐ ๐
grim ore
you dont need that so feel free to uncheck it. You only really need the sdk
that might be why I never had the issue I always uncheck it
it actually looks like the rest installed so you should be ok
grim ore
pretty much yeah. If you just uncheck the tegra stuff from what you tried before it should install fine, you probably don't even need to actually do anything else at this point as it says it already installed fine earlier
ionic hornet
Staged filesystem reference may not start with a path separator or contain an empty path fragment (MyProject3\Content\Test\c\living_eddie_BEAMS-LIMESTONE_SHINYDC1307C3D2_STONE-LIMESTONE_SHINYDC1307C3D2.uasset)
what does it means?
i tried to package my project and this error shows up
plush yew
XD Teapot missing preview mesh
modern kite
@regal mulch its just for educational purpose
modern kite
no
modern kite
btw guys i tried now to install android sdk only in code works and im getting an error or two...any help?
@safe rose
modern kite
problem is the package should be installed cuase its in android sdk included
@regal mulch
polar token
is there really no way to fix the shadows update like at 0:02?
Even just at the time of the render export?
teal tulip
there is another shadow update later
probably if you render on cinematic mode but no idea
realtime limitations
and shadow model limitations
modern kite
Codeworks is shit
First it gives me error that are changing for every try next when all is ok it gets stuck for what ever reason
I dont get it
tough kayak
anyone around to help me with my swarm? I can't seem to get it to connect to 2 of my laptops
urban gyro
Guys what to do when a player controller has no owning connection?
if tried everything i could think of
and there aint much info on the net
drowsy fox
Your player character has no controller?
urban gyro
no, my player controller has no player
drowsy fox
I believe in your player controller, or your game mode it is set
Unless Iโm being too primitive
urban gyro
the game mode class defaults have the correct player controller assigned
ive tried creating separate controllers, no go, on postlogin gives me controllers and i can possess stuff with them, but the actual controllers have no player, so i cant even spawn a hud, or fire inputs
drowsy fox
In your game mode there is a default pawn class, is it set?
If you want to start off with โno playerโ you still need a pawn. And that pawn has to control setting up the next pawn itโll posses (a real player)
drowsy fox
Itโs always the simple things.
urban gyro
aye, i was half expecting some bool needing flipping
mortal gale
I really do not like that the Unreal Assets can only be downloaded via the Epic Games Launcher, in Windows, and not in Linux.
That really needs to be addressed.
mortal gale
Oh, really?
safe rose
yup you should complain in #linux
someone should be able to help you there, but here's one real quick nibble: https://forums.unrealengine.com/community/community-content-tools-and-tutorials/1436836-launcher-marketplace-downloader-for-linux
couldn't find allar's
oh, I lied, that's allars
well, modded
mortal gale
Oh wow, that looks good.
But I'm already almost halfway downloading in Windows.
Is it possible to just copy the files over? lol
mortal gale
Huh, awesome.
devout gulch
what is the intended workflow behind Asset Manager ?
mortal gale
Even though my laptop was designed for Windows, it functions better in Linux, and I'm downloading them on my laptop currently, because I'm at the college, and at home, I have shitternet. lol
devout gulch
right now i just directly register my abilities assets within asset registry
but it looks like the intended workflow is to create seprate asset which will be search and that will store refereces to in my case ability
mortal gale
It's nice that UE4 and the editor runs on Linux, but it kinda feels like an afterthought, they made linux-compatible code, and then left.
And UE3, Linux support was even worse.
livid haven
laptop was designed for Windows - que?
silver crown
?
livid haven
How is a laptop designed for Windows? Unless you mean one of those rather particular ones, what are they called...
Surface? Which isn't exactly a laptop, per-se.
worn granite
I think that means We've tied the BIOS to windows more than usual and want to use that to hype the marketing
mortal gale
Yup. ^
worn granite
good luck easily throwing linux on here
silver crown
Ah yeah, forgot about those shitty bios
mortal gale
It was kinda a PITA, but I gitr done.
livid haven
I've honestly never experienced anything like that, but I guess it'd be more common with laptops than desktops which aren't really integrated as one "atomic" thing anyways.
mortal gale
Had to fuck around with EFI shell and UEFI variables.
worn granite
Well they get MS to agree to low pricing in exchange for holding the end user hostage
livid haven
Fair, fair. Just hadn't realized that was a thing. I do need to get a laptop for work at some point anyways.
worn granite
And they gotta at least look like they're trying it
mortal gale
I have 8.1 on the Windows partition right now, but I might just install 7 onto it.
worn granite
If you get a decent laptop or an older one its less of a problem
get a modern, cheap HP?
gl
livid haven
IMO, if you're a power user and you are going to use Windows at all, use Windows 10 and neuter it of the parts you don't want to deal with.
If you're a power user, you can neuter the bloatware/telemetry.
At which point, you're just getting a better OS than previous versions. But obviously only if you do said neutering.
mortal gale
The touchpad in Windows, acts like an idiot, a.k.a. I try to move the pointer, and it slects a fuckpile of shit, or, it scrolls insanely fast, or it doesn't work at all. Yet it works just fine in Linux. lmao. ANd, even funnier, the GPU performance in Linux is FAR better than Windows.
worn granite
Right.
livid haven
If you can't/won't, then yeah, I totally understand not upgrading from some other Windows version to 10.
worn granite
And you'd automate the neutering as much as possible.
that way if you ever update you can just run your script(s)
livid haven
Yep.
worn granite
win10 out of the box comes with a lot of bloat
silver crown
Like?
silver crown
(asking so that I can remove it)
silver crown
Didn't got that IIRC
worn granite
gone
silver crown
Maybe because it was Windows Pro
worn granite
Then there's a load of their own software on top of android games
Stuff that if I'm gonna use I can install
Kinda just normal android-esque bloat
silver crown
Yeah the mail/calendar stuff
worn granite
That's not a huge deal really
but as for other features I'd cut out
There was a time when my OS was complimenting me on my new (its not) phone.
Found the setting for that
mortal gale
mortal gale
I'm never installing Shitblows 10.
worn granite
Lemme go see, actually.
silver crown
Windows 8 is actually a lot worse IMO
mortal gale
I don't even fully like 8.1, I think 7 was the last good version of Windows.
worn granite
I didn't mind 8.1
worn granite
I originally did not mind 10
mortal gale
8.1 at least has alot less bloat, no fucking cortana or all that crap, not alot of forced bullshit, and it runs considerably faster.
worn granite
But I'm getting used to my linux install
upbeat tendon
i wonder if the paragon ui assets will be released
worn granite
So we'll see if I can make the jump
mortal gale
But, Windows does use more RAM than Linux.
For the same amount of things I'm doing.
mortal gale
Which DE?
silver crown
Yeah
mortal gale
KDE on my laptop, XFCE on my desktop.
Openbox on my Arch 32 on my ol' Dell D600 too.
silver crown
KDE is pretty resource heavy
mortal gale
No it isn't.
GNOME is. lol
I did before and after tests of switching my laptop from XFCE to KDE, and split my dick and call me Bruce Jenner, I was very much surprised.
Even power consumption was less.
using powerstat
iGPU, CPU, and memory usage was less.
silver crown
Interesting
mortal gale
A little bit of a choke there. lol
This college internet is much faster than at home. lmao
mortal gale
Yes, it is.
tight bridge
hey im new to this server where do i go if i need help with blueprints?
silver crown
#blueprint lol
upbeat tendon
@tropic solar oh you so funny
tropic solar
@upbeat tendon What do you mean?
livid haven
I mean, it was kind of funny in that it was somewhat naive, but I'm going to guess it's because they legitimately don't have much experience so they don't know yet.
TL;DR: If you don't have much experience, big open world stuff is a very bad place to start.
upbeat tendon
that has got to be a joke
tropic solar
Forget it, My mistake for asking questions and expecting people not to be assholes
livid haven
Oh, sometimes they are. Let's not pretend they're not.
upbeat tendon
you aren't trolling?
livid haven
And that was probably a bit harsher than necessary of a response for someone just popping in for the first time.
upbeat tendon
i wasn't harsh
livid haven
@pallid compass They removed their question, probably because they were embarassed by the response.
pallid compass
What question?
Gather around children let me tell you a funny story about the other day
livid haven
They were asking about where to go to learn about making open world stuff.
pallid compass
Actually SIon i was ment to PM you this the other day
livid haven
The first response to that being laughed at is pretty harsh.
urban gyro
was it an MMO?
pallid compass
I legit asked the other day, how to do a for loop in c++
tropic solar
I have 0% experience in game creation, So of course I don't know the basics. @pallid compass I removed it because I posted it elsewhere, and didnt want to have the same question in multiple chats, not embarrassed
pallid compass
because i didnt know lmao
writes GAS execution calculation classes ez
cant remember how to for loop
livid haven
@tropic solar My mistake, I was the one who assumed it was out of embarassment.
Which would be an understandable response, anyways.
pallid compass
I got roasted in the cpp channel lmao
upbeat tendon
ok first thing to do would be to code up a version of snake
pallid compass
Actually step 1
Go do random BP tutorails
Learn basic's all over
So you can get your hands use to the engine
urban gyro
first thing should be Pong. Because it was 1st ๐
livid haven
@upbeat tendon Don't get me wrong, I get annoyed with what I often feel are naive or stupid questions and I may not always be as nice about answering as I could be, but I try to make an effort to not be too judgemental.
@tropic solar To give you some actual advice, if you have no experience with game dev, you really should start very small. Don't try to make a game you'll be proud of and ship to start with - learn the basics making clones of simple things that will never see the light of day.
tropic solar
I have no embarrassment, We all have to start from somewhere. I just don't know much. I have been interested in game design for years, but just now have had the time to look into it and attempt to understand the basics. My questions are not stupid, but i do understand the vagueness of them.
upbeat tendon
i am pretty sure most kids that are into gaming know how much work it is to develop a game
pallid compass
Also a realistic tip
tropic solar
Also I don't plan on making a living on off games, Just a hobby ๐
livid haven
@upbeat tendon No, they really don't.
pallid compass
Expect to spend a year faffing about in the engine
Before you produce anything remotely acceptable
Games Development is hard, but it gets easier's every day, but u gotta keep doing it
easier*
upbeat tendon
really go write text based snake in basic
urban gyro
To put it this way: When you start realizing that the docs are kinda meh, then u make a game.
tropic solar
Career: college for counseling, Just thought it would be interesting to understand the basics, attempt a little, and gain a better understanding of how much work goes into it
pallid compass
do basic tutorials every day, read non c++ doc at night
no joke when i say iv been doing that for two years
upbeat tendon
@tropic solar youtube extra credits
pallid compass
and it was only yesterday that i started actually saying "hey iv read everything, time to start reading random source files"
livid haven
@tropic solar It's alright. Your question was naive, but that's forgivable - how could it be anything but if you don't know anything yet? Starting with Unreal is possible but you're going to have to learn a lot of things because you're diving in the deep end.
upbeat tendon
i still think he could be trolling
pallid compass
Hes not a troll
worn granite
I don't think he's a troll or a poe or w/e
urban gyro
To be fair, the Paragon assets are estimated at 12kk$ so it is possible some wacko to come in and try to flip them
livid haven
If you want to develop all on your own, just for hobby's sake, you're going to have to learn a bit of design, a bit of programming, and a bit of art, @tropic solar.
Trying to jump to "how do I make an open world game" is skipping a few hundred steps is all.
upbeat tendon
depends what you want to create
worn granite
How to create: World Machine
How to optimize: Make it so you can do occlusion culling
upbeat tendon
i am hopeless at art, so i use assets, i use world machine, i read the code from the shooter demo, and have created 4 really awful games so far
worn granite
WM -> Some sculpting program -> UE4 Landscape -> be sure and break that down a bit I think
upbeat tendon
has anyone tried the new WM update?
urban gyro
u forgot textring
worn granite
rekt
pallid compass
be programmer
use world machine
write everything to be generated by volume box's
ez
worn granite
Just get an auto mat
tropic solar
Its fine, I realized what you and unity people have in common., and it was my mistake to ask for advice from assholes. Also, My question was about performance issues and how to size maps in resolution in regards to terrain size in open world maps. I am not stupid enough to create a large map with 0% experience
worn granite
the MP has a few packs which have auto landscape texturing
upbeat tendon
i use some terrain assets and have WM generate me a layer mask
worn granite
Alright you gonna lump me/sion in with somebody that responded with lol that's funny
fuck it, google is over there
upbeat tendon
no one has been an asshole
tropic solar
I said people not "everyone"
urban gyro
dude, 80% of beginner questions are answered in the official tutorials
urban gyro
theres about 75 hours of live training
tropic solar
I watched the tutorials and I read the basic information, I just wanted to know what worked best for other people, that was all
urban gyro
and while the docs are sucking, lots of em still are valid
upbeat tendon
@tropic solar you want to learn about game design, on youtube you should watch extra credits
you will learn a lot
floral heart
noooooo
urban gyro
hell no
pallid compass
Start by Making a tiny island
urban gyro
extra credits is the worst place for game design lol
pallid compass
and when i say tiny
i mean
5x5 row boats
Get some visual's in there
add a tiny UI for food
that drains
worn granite
guys stop being assholes
floral heart
I tried landscape the other day
landscape tools get the hell confused out of them if you're using them at the edge of the lanscape
upbeat tendon
damn, i say create a large flat land and run around it
pallid compass
Watch landscaping live training
worn granite
you're all so toxic, stopit
upbeat tendon
then mess around
pallid compass
thats enough immutablelambda it stopped being funny ๐
upbeat tendon
i have an asshole, i don't think i can stop it
urban gyro
I presume from ur post saying that we are the same as the Unity guys, i suspect you've tried that engine already. And honestly, you'd probably be better off playing round there, it's much more beginner friendly. @tropic solar
tropic solar
Forget I even asked for advice, Ill go elsewhere
worn granite
๐๐ป
upbeat tendon
@tropic solar i gave you great advice
urban gyro
and yes u got plenty of advice
urban gyro
im not a fan
floral heart
ARK, open world, Unreal, famous for having half-assed it
PUBG, open world, Unreal, famous for having half-assed it
Fortnite, open world (ish), Unreal, famous for cross-pollinating Unreal with niche features that don't actually help
cursive dirge
I removed extra credits from my RSS feed once they started promoting lootboxes
pallid compass
You wont find better advice than from in here
urban gyro
@cursive dirge same
pallid compass
@tropic solar You wont find better than here, just ignore there others aftera awhile in here you get the +2 sarcastic trait
upbeat tendon
i don't agree with everything they say, but they do put effort and reasoning in
worn granite
I feel like EC can get you thinking on something, even if you ultimately don't agree.
upbeat tendon
not sure i like the squeeky voice