#ue4-general | Unreal Source | Page 112

uneven fractal Sep 17, 2017, 9:02 PM

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wow I think I've gone in too deep I recongized that rocket league was made in unreal 4 from just seeing the pause menu in a screenshot

buoyant echo Sep 17, 2017, 9:06 PM

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@rapid oak usually only if you get banned.

rapid oak Sep 17, 2017, 9:06 PM

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was wondering seems like some post i make in here then leave sometime after go missing.........

sharp crest Sep 17, 2017, 9:19 PM

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Is there any way to uncook a map file?

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umap

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Please someone tell me there is lol I reinstalled my ARK Dev Kit and forget to backup a level file

plush yew Sep 17, 2017, 9:27 PM

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Please welcome @tight vessel to the community! :beers:

unique spire Sep 17, 2017, 10:05 PM

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Hi guys i was hoping somone could check out this log for packaging, i have migrated the levels into a seperate project to help with storage space but when i package the game im getting an error 😦

📎 whiteside_log.txt

plush yew Sep 17, 2017, 10:43 PM

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Please welcome @restive wind to the community! :beers:

restive wind Sep 17, 2017, 10:43 PM

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Allo

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I was wondering if someone could help me with a texture question

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is there a difference if I, for example, had a giant castle wall with an 8k texture, or 8, 1k textures?

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a difference in performance I mean

plush yew Sep 17, 2017, 10:57 PM

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Please welcome @cobalt cedar to the community! :beers:

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:16 PM

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@restive wind Hard to say, there's also so many other factors to the rendering overhead involved.

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I want to say that 8 different textures is worse for performance because there's some level of "context switching" involved to reference different textures.

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But that may well be a naive assumption. While that statement may be true, it's isolating just one factor. Maybe having to iterate over 1 huge array is somehow worse than iterating over 8 smaller arrays, for the GPU I mean.

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I think you're just going to have to benchmark this particular case.

restive wind Sep 17, 2017, 11:18 PM

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Ya like...if it's referencing one small image file I feel like it would be faster? or that it would at least take up less vram?

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I just saw a GDC talk where they were saying they wanted to reuse the same texture with different masks

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it wasn't clear if it was for performance or workflow

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:19 PM

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You said 1 8K vs 8 1Ks. Ostensibly, the 8 1Ks would take marginally more VRAM because there's got to be some flat overhead per-texture, besides the actual VRAM for the pixels.

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And I do mean marginal.

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Again, there really are a lot of potential factors, I don't think anyone can really give you a real answer with reasonable confidence without, themselves, benchmarking it.

restive wind Sep 17, 2017, 11:21 PM

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Ya, I'm just a long ways off from actually getting my textures in game, it was just a passing thought, and I couldn't find a real answer online

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:21 PM

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Could test with a blank set of textures. 🤷

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Problem is you should benchmark with a test case that represents what you're likely to encounter, or else you might get results that mislead.

restive wind Sep 17, 2017, 11:22 PM

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Well I have a procedural texture generator that I made, that basically just puts different masks on the same original image file

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Great for saving time, but if it's gonna break my game I'd have to change it a little

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:23 PM

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I guess hedge your bets and write your code knowing that there's a possibility you'll have to refactor it for one approach or the other.

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That seems like it would strike a good balance of not overengineering prematurely, but also spending a fraction of the time on due dilligence in preparation for a plausible future technical hurdle.

plush yew Sep 17, 2017, 11:24 PM

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Please welcome @reef canyon to the community! :beers:

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:24 PM

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Write it as if it needs to be able to operate on multiple textures, but only actually operate on a single texture, y'know?

restive wind Sep 17, 2017, 11:24 PM

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Ya it was originally just to save alot of time in generating the textures with like 5 minutes of work in between each variation lol

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and i could make it work pretty much eaither way

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:25 PM

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There's surely a common set of functionality and structure to both.

restive wind Sep 17, 2017, 11:25 PM

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https://i.snag.gy/fgNGoR.jpg

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https://i.snag.gy/HFvL3x.jpg

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Like...that's the same image file, different masks and gradient

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:25 PM

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So isolating the work for a specific approach is really the due dilligence task.

gray zinc Sep 17, 2017, 11:25 PM

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Hey

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can somone hel.p me

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:26 PM

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Nope.

gray zinc Sep 17, 2017, 11:26 PM

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...

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ok

restive wind Sep 17, 2017, 11:26 PM

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lol help with what?

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oh wow I probably should have been in #graphics for these questions

gray zinc Sep 17, 2017, 11:27 PM

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hal

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come to graphics

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@restive wind

restive wind Sep 17, 2017, 11:27 PM

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Yessit

plush yew Sep 17, 2017, 11:29 PM

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Please welcome @fresh scaffold to the community! :beers:

idle sail Sep 17, 2017, 11:42 PM

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Im asking in here because im not sure which room to ask in but im having trouble importing some Uassets

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ive got a folder with uassets an put it into my directory under cotent but when i open up ue4 nothings there :/

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:43 PM

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You can't just copy paste uassets around.

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UAssets can and often do have references to other assets.

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These references break when those assets do not exist in the location they were originally in when the reference was made.

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If those assets were also made with a newer or custom version of the engine, an older or different verison of the engine can not possibly load them.

idle sail Sep 17, 2017, 11:45 PM

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Mmm thats probably the problem x.x

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sigh

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The read me said just drop the folder under content

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:45 PM

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The engine can not reliably load assets created with a new version of the engine - it has absolutely no way of guaranteeing that the newer version of the engine produces identical, compatible binary layouts to the old.

idle sail Sep 17, 2017, 11:46 PM

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mildy frustrating that they release new versions so often 😅

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ive got a pretty simple scene atm, could i bring that all forward to a newer version? is there a easy way to do that?

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:47 PM

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Moving forward is easy.

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Moving backward is practically impossible.

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And you best be using source control.

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Or prepare to feel stupid for permanently upgrading your project and discovering there's some bug in a newer version that makes working in that particular version impossible.

idle sail Sep 17, 2017, 11:49 PM

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I just honestly use it from an artist stand point making little scenes for my portfolio atm

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nothing too serious

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:49 PM

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Source control, always. 😉

idle sail Sep 17, 2017, 11:49 PM

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i dont even know what that is

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:49 PM

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Well, shit.

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Version control is another term for it.

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Generally, software that tracks what the latest version of a file is and all previous versions of it in backup.

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Saving copies of your file with a number attached for what revision it is is a poor, poor approximation... but... the general idea is that.

idle sail Sep 17, 2017, 11:51 PM

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so how do i upgrade a project, its currently 4.14 i wanna make it 4.17

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:52 PM

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Pretty sure you can install 4.17, right click the project file, and switch engine versions.

idle sail Sep 17, 2017, 11:52 PM

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Ahk will try that thank you 😃

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:52 PM

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That said, I don't know if jumping 3 major revisions is going to work without a hitch.

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You can try it.

idle sail Sep 17, 2017, 11:52 PM

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Its a pretty simple scene just a lay out an some materials an objects

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:52 PM

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Probably fine then.

loud knoll Sep 17, 2017, 11:53 PM

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@idle sail be sure to back up your project fire before switching engine versions and keep 4.14 around for a few weeks

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:53 PM

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Jumping multiple major revisions ahead tends to be more of a gamble with code, where APIs may have changed a lot.

idle sail Sep 17, 2017, 11:53 PM

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yeah

loud knoll Sep 17, 2017, 11:53 PM

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files

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:53 PM

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Yeah, to make it clear, not just your project file, but all files in the entire project.

idle sail Sep 17, 2017, 11:53 PM

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would be safe to juts make a clone of it?

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:53 PM

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A clone? Are you using Git?

loud knoll Sep 17, 2017, 11:54 PM

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you can have many engine versions installed and keep the projects working for each version

cinder iron Sep 17, 2017, 11:54 PM

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Sound engine made it great

idle sail Sep 17, 2017, 11:54 PM

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im using the simple UE4 lancher

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nothing special

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:54 PM

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Okay. Sorry, clone has a particular meaning in Git, which is version control software.

idle sail Sep 17, 2017, 11:54 PM

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lol im an artist not a programmer 😛

loud knoll Sep 17, 2017, 11:54 PM

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I would let the launcher clone it but before that I would copy the entire project directory to a safe location and zip it up

cinder iron Sep 17, 2017, 11:54 PM

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I guess clone means copy/paste

idle sail Sep 17, 2017, 11:54 PM

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kk

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:54 PM

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Being an artist doesn't change the need for version control software.

idle sail Sep 17, 2017, 11:55 PM

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stop it

loud knoll Sep 17, 2017, 11:55 PM

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launcher will clone it

idle sail Sep 17, 2017, 11:55 PM

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with the version control 😅

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:55 PM

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No?

loud knoll Sep 17, 2017, 11:55 PM

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but you can copy and past it to a save place before it does it

idle sail Sep 17, 2017, 11:55 PM

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lol

cinder iron Sep 17, 2017, 11:55 PM

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But clone on source control means dowloading from repo

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:55 PM

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Anyone here not recommend using source control?

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Anyone? Bueler?

idle sail Sep 17, 2017, 11:56 PM

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I agree its probably a good idea

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i just dont use UE4 much at all

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im using it for this current project but

loud knoll Sep 17, 2017, 11:56 PM

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no but it is slow if have a large project and are not paying for good up bandwidth

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:56 PM

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Even outside UE4, you're an artist yeah?

idle sail Sep 17, 2017, 11:56 PM

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will go back to not using it again soon

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:56 PM

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@loud knoll you don't need to pay for bandwidth if you don't use any.

plush yew Sep 17, 2017, 11:56 PM

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Please welcome @stiff badge to the community! :beers:

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:56 PM

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It's not ideal to use local source control, but it beats nothing at all.

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It just means you're still in danger if you have a total hardware failure.

cinder iron Sep 17, 2017, 11:57 PM

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Create a gitlab acc

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And use those 10 free GB

loud knoll Sep 17, 2017, 11:57 PM

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I m saying it is slow if you are moving 1 to 5 or more gigs up stream most pro teams put everything in the repo not just code. 😃

ruby chasm Sep 17, 2017, 11:57 PM

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Any PSVR developers here?

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:57 PM

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I repeat, you don't have to use bandwidth if you aren't going over a network.

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You can use a local source control solution.

loud knoll Sep 17, 2017, 11:57 PM

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right if you have a local repro

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and are using a local server

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:58 PM

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For reals though, @idle sail, you should look in to artist-friendly version control software, outside of UE4 too.

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It will save a lot of tears.

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If you've ever had a photoshop file corrupt or something, you know how gods damned frustrating that can be.

cinder iron Sep 17, 2017, 11:58 PM

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Local version controller? Not for me. But if its your only alternative DO use it. Don't pass on it.

idle sail Sep 17, 2017, 11:58 PM

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i keep upto date with all my artist programs pretty well

cinder iron Sep 17, 2017, 11:58 PM

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Just use it.

loud knoll Sep 17, 2017, 11:59 PM

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I had everything happen... I am giving advice that most people can follow and it is easy to follow for non engineers. 😃

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:59 PM

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Or if you've ever had to look at your 50 files named _Revision_Final_ReallyFinal_Reviewed_15_Edited...

cinder iron Sep 17, 2017, 11:59 PM

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Hahaya

idle sail Sep 17, 2017, 11:59 PM

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oh man im notorious for that lol

livid haven Sep 17, 2017, 11:59 PM

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Yeah, get you some artist friendly version control software.

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It'll also potentially save your harddrive space. Potentially.

cinder iron Sep 18, 2017, 12:00 AM

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Use tortoise git or source tree as a client

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Really user friendly

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And they have good guides and community support

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 12:00 AM

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I'd actually recommend SVN over Git for just artists.

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Git is fucking brutal, even with a GUI.

idle sail Sep 18, 2017, 12:00 AM

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I dno though my computer already cluttered with crap an needs a wipe dont like the idea of pushing more stuff on there

loud knoll Sep 18, 2017, 12:01 AM

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have you ever looked a pure artists work station? It is usally a I nightamre. 😃 no ofense to any anal artists who keep a clean desktop. 😃

cinder iron Sep 18, 2017, 12:01 AM

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My god wwwww

idle sail Sep 18, 2017, 12:01 AM

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Vexar once im more gainfully employed maybe

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 12:01 AM

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@loud knoll Plenty. I still don't see the point in avoiding even local version control software.

idle sail Sep 18, 2017, 12:02 AM

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atm im currently starving artist status but hopefully got a job coming up

cinder iron Sep 18, 2017, 12:02 AM

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It will jus make better your life

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Once you'll get used

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Its really a charm bro

tiny loom Sep 18, 2017, 12:02 AM

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preach much bro

loud knoll Sep 18, 2017, 12:03 AM

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local version control is making a copy of files and managing it if he is the only one working on it, the getto approach can be better then nothing.

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 12:03 AM

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And the local version control system is better than the ghetto approach, costs 0 dollars, potentially saves space... really, what is your argument?

cinder iron Sep 18, 2017, 12:04 AM

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Ok then dont cry if you get the reset bug on unreal and get all your values of all your files to default....

loud knoll Sep 18, 2017, 12:04 AM

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setting up version control is hard for folks man is all I am saying, and it makes working a pain in the ass if you are not used to checking out files and all that.

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 12:04 AM

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SVN is trivial to setup.

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Setting up Perforce or Git is whole different story.

loud knoll Sep 18, 2017, 12:04 AM

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you are not an artist @livid haven are ya?

cinder iron Sep 18, 2017, 12:05 AM

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Git is kinda trivial aswell, but svn is a cake

idle sail Sep 18, 2017, 12:05 AM

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Il look into it when i start a company 😛

loud knoll Sep 18, 2017, 12:05 AM

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my god man

plush yew Sep 18, 2017, 12:05 AM

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Please welcome @buoyant oar to the community! :beers:

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 12:05 AM

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@loud knoll I sense an incoming fallacy.

cinder iron Sep 18, 2017, 12:05 AM

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Dude stop saying that you are an artist xD

idle sail Sep 18, 2017, 12:06 AM

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who me?

cinder iron Sep 18, 2017, 12:06 AM

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I would like to bring here some artist friends to speak with you abiut the benefits of it since ima a programmer and svn is so complicated apparently even though we say the contrary

idle sail Sep 18, 2017, 12:07 AM

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Jeeze what did i start 😅 😅 😅

loud knoll Sep 18, 2017, 12:07 AM

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nothing man you good

cinder iron Sep 18, 2017, 12:07 AM

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Im sorry vexar, even with 40 years of experience...

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 12:07 AM

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Cool, well, I'm going to keep up with best practices and not forgo advising source control.

cinder iron Sep 18, 2017, 12:08 AM

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We already said what we had to say

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If you have any doubt about versión controlling dont doubt to ask it

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 12:08 AM

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Yeah, we said that.

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Pretty sure all parties involved said to backup the whole project. We also advised looking in to version control, rather than saying to not bother with it because the ghetto approach of untennable file name management is totally fine.

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:12 AM

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Can anyone confirm if Epic have stopped responding to bug reports on answer hub please?

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I have two that I really need fixed and they're going ignored, well my one from yesterday hasn't been up long enough but I posted a very serious one on Sep 05 and no response

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The one I posted yesterday is going to cause a lot of extra work for a lot less

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Sep 05: https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/703293/acharacter-jumpmaxholdtime-quickly-prevents-jumpin.html

glossy flame Sep 18, 2017, 12:14 AM

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I doubt they just stopped replying to their major source of bug reports :p

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If it's slow, well, it's slow :/

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:16 AM

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The one I posted yesterday will likely never get any support or a fix

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I'm assuming they just don't use ragdolls in Paragon or Fortnite

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https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/707282/copy-pose-from-mesh-does-not-work-when-source-mesh.html

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Then again Paragon probably doesn't need copy pose from mesh

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And when I google for answers there is virtually nothing on the topic in the first place

tiny loom Sep 18, 2017, 12:17 AM

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tough niche situation

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:17 AM

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Yep exactly

tiny loom Sep 18, 2017, 12:18 AM

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guess you gotta be your own pioneer

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:18 AM

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Waaaa

glossy flame Sep 18, 2017, 12:18 AM

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Yeah, I sympathize with that, but the plural of anecdote isn't data :p

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I don't think you can just assume they unilaterally stopped replying to AH just because you see a few that haven't got responses

loud knoll Sep 18, 2017, 12:18 AM

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I am still waiting for them to fix bugs in version 4.12 with the file system so just depends on the internal priorities of Epic, the good news is that they are using the engine to make games so a lot more got fixed in the last few years, I also figure they are all focused on 4.18

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the jumping bug seems like something that should never happen

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:19 AM

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You can test it yourself if you want, I put reproduction steps

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And it happened after they fixed the bug I posted ages before that

loud knoll Sep 18, 2017, 12:20 AM

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I saw it you write nice

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:20 AM

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Meaning their fix just caused another

loud knoll Sep 18, 2017, 12:20 AM

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or is it well I never went to high school or college

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:20 AM

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And yeah @glossy flame but I looked at some older ones, seems they're way behind

loud knoll Sep 18, 2017, 12:22 AM

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well I tweeted tim lets see if he is repsonds 😃

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@drifting finchSweeneyEpic Dear God Lord Tim, first of his name how far behind are you guys on bug reports? Everyone on vacation or working on 4.18?
5:22 PM - 17 Sep 2017

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:23 AM

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Thats not a jump bug

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Thats how it would function

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:23 AM

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No, it's a bug

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 12:24 AM

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Well, that's kind of shitty. What do you expect to happen?

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:24 AM

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Ur ded server is fighting ur client

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And pulling them down

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 12:24 AM

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You want him to come down and yell at us or something?

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:24 AM

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I specifically stated that is what happens in the bug report

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That is the bug

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:24 AM

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Its not a bug its your networking

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:24 AM

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No, it's a bug in THEIR networking

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:24 AM

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U have no interp or predictiin

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Or root motion control

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:24 AM

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Dude

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Stop talking and listen for a second

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:24 AM

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To compensate for it

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:25 AM

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This is their code, not mine

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:25 AM

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If u understand it fix it then

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:25 AM

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Read the bug report properly

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:25 AM

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I read it

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Sounds like u dont know how to network

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:26 AM

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Then you don't understand the problem, especially if you're using the words 'root motion'

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Root motion has nothing to do with it whatsoever

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:26 AM

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If u understood whst i ment

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Mao

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Lmao

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:26 AM

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You really don't

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What are you trying to be hostile

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:26 AM

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We use root motion to send curves of floats

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To avoid issues like this

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Im not ur getting defensive ag

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Af

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:27 AM

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OK, well I'm going to ignore the person who is being a dick while giving advice from a place of inexperience haha

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:27 AM

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Okay im inexp

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And u cant network lmao

scenic chasm Sep 18, 2017, 12:27 AM

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@pallid compass You may or may not be right, but you are being a dick...

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:27 AM

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Even if it was big ol bug million work arounds

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How am i?

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:28 AM

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He's definitely wrong, if you read the bug report it's apparent

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:28 AM

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Call it a bug or w/e

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My point being

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U can fix that ez

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Can tell by your post that u dont know whats going on

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:29 AM

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Also as for me not knowing how to network, that might have been true a while ago, but I've learned a lot the past month and I'm building a multiplayer shooter (which is why I learned a lot), so I do actually know how to use their client-side prediction and UE4's networking

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:29 AM

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Othetwise u would of expanded on iy

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It

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There is no client side prediction built in

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The only client prediction is in the GPA

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I think your trying to say network smootbing

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Smoothing*

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:30 AM

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Where CMC is concerned I feel it's better to let Epic fix it, everything is interconnected in some way, even if I know it nearly inside out I'd still prefer to avoid it, it's why it's so easy for their bug fix to have bugs in it

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:30 AM

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Do u know why your pinging back

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Iv got good few ideas with out even testing it

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By sounds of it jump max hold time is causing an issie with no network send over

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And client has no direct replication input/ some sort of auth over jump canceling or release

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So server is playing tug of war

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:32 AM

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I think I'm just going to head back to GDL lol

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:32 AM

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Its not a bug my point is your not setting it up correct

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Why dont u try actually finding out

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What the issue is

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:32 AM

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I wish Discord didn't tell you when there are blocked messages, that's just annoying

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Bye

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:33 AM

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Yeah yeah

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Bloody potato :,)

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networking support no work for me out box
must be bug

plush yew Sep 18, 2017, 12:33 AM

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Please welcome @warped hill to the community! :beers:

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:34 AM

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Also <@&213101288538374145>

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:34 AM

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U can mod all u want man

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:34 AM

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I came back here thinking maybe there would be a more focused community here

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:34 AM

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Dude you are neing ignorant af

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Being

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U cant even say why

plush yew Sep 18, 2017, 12:34 AM

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Please welcome @unreal comet to the community! :beers:

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:34 AM

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Its not working

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@livid haven what was it u use to say to me

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99%its the user and not the engine?

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 12:35 AM

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I'm remaining well away from this little fight.

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Yes, most of the time the issue is the user and not the engine.

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:35 AM

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Well, it's pretty one-sided but you can call it that

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:35 AM

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Thats the point im hust trying to make

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:35 AM

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I'm just trying to get my issues solved, and it's frustrating me

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:36 AM

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Just

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Dude i could solve thst for u

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 12:36 AM

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You've generally been difficult for me to help out because of your attitude, but he's also being inflammatory.

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:36 AM

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In like 5 mins

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 12:36 AM

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So this is generally a shit show all around.

scenic chasm Sep 18, 2017, 12:36 AM

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^^

idle sail Sep 18, 2017, 12:36 AM

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ok so where do i go to upgrade a project to the latest version?

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:36 AM

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Im pretty chill but u cant keep shrugging off what im telling u

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When u could find a solution

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Easily if u where listening

loud knoll Sep 18, 2017, 12:37 AM

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I always blame myself first and am always surprised I find a bug if it is real, I found a bunch of landscape bugs and they fixed most of them. Still want them to add the wire frame color change feature I asked for 2 years ago, but I don't have high expecations.

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 12:37 AM

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I have no idea if either of you is actually correct or not, but at this point I just don't even want to get involved. You're both being pretty hostile about the whole thing.

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:37 AM

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I can already see most of the issue from your report

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:37 AM

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I don't need help with the issue, it's an engine bug and I was trying to find if there's some sort of delay on Epic's end

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:37 AM

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Im not being hostile at all

loud knoll Sep 18, 2017, 12:38 AM

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I have a dumb question for anyone, how do you see the wire frame color on collision volumes the post proc is making it very very hard to see is there a way to increase the size of the wires themselves?

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:38 AM

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See your shrugging it off

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:38 AM

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So when someone is trying to push advice (that's incorrect) on you it's just irritating

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:38 AM

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Aa a bug

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 12:38 AM

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@drifting finch Saw you typing - someone accidentally tagged you while copy-pasting a tweet.

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Wasn't actually meant for you.

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:38 AM

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Do u understand why the dedic is pulling your pawn down?

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Thats serious question btw

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Im actually trying to help you

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Not u the other guy

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 12:40 AM

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I feel like your experience with one person probably insn't exactly a litmus for the whole cummunity on this discord @mint sequoia

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 12:40 AM

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You're right @restive wind

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:41 AM

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Im sorry if i come off as hosyile vaei

worn granite Sep 18, 2017, 12:41 AM

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https://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/leaving-now-grandpa-simpsons.gif

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:41 AM

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I am generally trying to help

loud knoll Sep 18, 2017, 12:41 AM

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yeah we are all trying to make games and learn stuff and you know we are all brothers and sisters so just chill guys its all good. 😃

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 12:41 AM

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Text can be decieving

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So easy to come of condescending

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:41 AM

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Yeah im not being hostile at all

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Iv askef u questions and u have reflected them

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And just grabbed on to labling it a bug

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 12:42 AM

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I've seen you in the substance discord Halcyon I know you're not hostile lol

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:42 AM

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If its such a issue for u then i dont understsnd why u would not accept my input

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Ah thanks hal

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Been in here for like a year and a half

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 12:42 AM

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I've only been in here today

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been in substance for a bit though

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:43 AM

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Not that long for me

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I spent a lot of time in quixel

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 12:44 AM

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I've never tried to develop a whole game before XD

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:44 AM

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I run my own company

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 12:44 AM

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Just got into digital art like a month ago

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:44 AM

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Small nothing major but

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Its something

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Oh nice

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 12:45 AM

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I've painted/sculpted for years though

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:45 AM

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Mainly 3d texturing or?

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Oh shit

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Nice man

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 12:45 AM

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tyty

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:45 AM

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Got any work?

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 12:45 AM

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My wife bought me a wacom, so I've been wearing it out

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:45 AM

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I can only sculpt hard surface

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Oj nice hahs

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Wait u dont sculpt with wacom?

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 12:46 AM

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Ya I've been trying to make a procedural texture module lol

spare citrus Sep 18, 2017, 12:46 AM

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i also use wacom to sculpt, using a mouse is just insane lol

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 12:46 AM

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which is weird because it's not anything like physical art

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Oh I sculpt with the wacom

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But I don't have Zbrush

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just blender

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:47 AM

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Oh dam

spare citrus Sep 18, 2017, 12:47 AM

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zbrush is nice with wacom

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 12:47 AM

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digital sculpting is weeeeeird though lol

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still getting used ot it

spare citrus Sep 18, 2017, 12:47 AM

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its all about the pressure pen

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 12:48 AM

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📎 Monk_Face_3.jpg

plush yew Sep 18, 2017, 12:48 AM

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Please welcome @proper raft to the community! :beers:

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 12:48 AM

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But honestly I've been digging into substance for the past 4-5 days

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Making textures is really fun lol

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:51 AM

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📎 unknown-4.png

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Sample of my old work

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 12:51 AM

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Looks great

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:51 AM

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Im trying to figure out good pipline for hard surface texturing

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Im not really a modeller

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 12:52 AM

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Um...

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:52 AM

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I do engine focused stuff and programming

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 12:52 AM

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1 sec let me hunt somehting up

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https://i.snag.gy/8djfJb.jpg

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I mean this is just for stone

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:53 AM

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I normally use master material with id, scratch&grime, RMA, Normal input

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Iv never used designer

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 12:53 AM

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Ok so basically this

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/162276858447134720/358831934769725440/unknown.png

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https://i.snag.gy/HFvL3x.jpg

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and that

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were made about 10 minutes form each other

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I'm still modifying it, but I've seen a lot of open world games so I've been trying to findd out a way to generate a LOT of textures really quickly

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:55 AM

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Looks nice

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Well we dont use lots of textutes

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Textures

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They bloat game size

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 12:56 AM

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This is true

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:56 AM

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We use material functions for all base

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With full control over it

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Abd use macros to break tiling

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 12:56 AM

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I have no Idea what any of that means 😃

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I mean i know the words...

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So what's a material function?

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:58 AM

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So basicallt imagine this

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I have base material for everything

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Plastic, polymere, metal, brushed metal, thick machine paint

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Etc

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 12:59 AM

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Ya, that's basically what I'm doing here

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 12:59 AM

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And i can control everything about them

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Roughness min, max, tiling, normal strength, metal, etc

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 12:59 AM

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mhm

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 1:00 AM

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Now we map these things to uvs

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But

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We only need a colour id map

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Bring id map in, normal map, and RMA

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 1:00 AM

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Ya, those two stones I showed you are the same "texture"

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 1:01 AM

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We then layer the materials on top of each oghet

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Other

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And can use grime and scratch maps

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 1:01 AM

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Just different masks

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 1:01 AM

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Il show u tomorrow properly

loud knoll Sep 18, 2017, 1:01 AM

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so you have to change the engine wire frame mat to get thicker wires? is this true?

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 1:01 AM

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No idea man

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Can u not see it properly?

loud knoll Sep 18, 2017, 1:02 AM

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not when I am moving with post even with out at 2k its hard to see them

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 1:02 AM

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I can see mine on ultra wide 1440p

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 1:02 AM

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It's the exact same image file, it just has a different normal for the grout, and a different color gradient

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 1:02 AM

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Oh

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Yeah i do similar for landscape

restive wind Sep 18, 2017, 1:02 AM

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So ya there's one parent image I guess

loud knoll Sep 18, 2017, 1:03 AM

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I was looking for a global editor setting and found people changing the engine wireframe mat to make them easier to see

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this should be something in the code imo you shouldnt have to change a debug mat so you can see it

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 1:04 AM

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U know whst be easier

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Make a bind for toggling post on off

loud knoll Sep 18, 2017, 1:04 AM

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you can change the color so I figured it was in there

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 1:05 AM

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I dont normally deflect things but

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F ur unsure

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Stay the hell awsy from editor stuff

loud knoll Sep 18, 2017, 1:05 AM

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yeah but when I am moving my character with a trigger vol attached and playing the game I need to see what is happening wit h the shape of the volume

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 1:05 AM

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U might cause fuck storm in future

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Sounds like u got an issue

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I can see mine fine when i do that on 4l screen

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Can u show image

loud knoll Sep 18, 2017, 1:06 AM

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well I got other wireframe issues the terrain color is dark blue if you are using wire on top of terrain in bright light settings it is very hard to see as well, but maybe I can fix that with a texture change

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sure

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 1:07 AM

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Also i think volume box visual and wirrframe could not be same

loud knoll Sep 18, 2017, 1:13 AM

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can I post image links here?

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 1:14 AM

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Thats pretty far away

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Any reason u need see wireframe?

loud knoll Sep 18, 2017, 1:15 AM

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yes

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or I wouldnt have them enabled

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they are right up to the front of the choppa but you cant see them

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that trigger is mounted to the front

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you can see them fine in the in the bp viewport

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I have no trouble see wire in editor when I am not playing

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what I am going to do is make my own wire mat with thicker lines seems the fastest way to fix it

plush yew Sep 18, 2017, 1:18 AM

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Please welcome @plush yew to the community! :beers:

loud knoll Sep 18, 2017, 1:18 AM

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I found a great youtube video of a guy making tron materials and it is over kill for what I need but it will work for what I need to see, also if I make that volume visble during game play I need other players to see it

plush yew Sep 18, 2017, 1:32 AM

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Please welcome @jade roost to the community! :beers:

plush yew Sep 18, 2017, 2:43 AM

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Please welcome @manic pecan to the community! :beers:

drifting finch Sep 18, 2017, 6:07 AM

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@livid haven @loud knoll yes no worries, figured as much 😃

midnight mantle Sep 18, 2017, 7:09 AM

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just out of curiosity...what do you guys think first got you into gamedev?

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for me...I think what influenced me most was Starcraft's custom maps

cloud cobalt Sep 18, 2017, 7:10 AM

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Custom levels on counter strike

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That fy_pool_day thing.

midnight mantle Sep 18, 2017, 7:11 AM

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but now that I'm actually getting into it, it's not nearly as simple as making custom maps :<

cloud cobalt Sep 18, 2017, 7:12 AM

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Well yeah. It's not the same thing, really - gamedev is not a job, it's 10 people's job.

midnight mantle Sep 18, 2017, 7:12 AM

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haha right

cloud cobalt Sep 18, 2017, 7:13 AM

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And the most important one is pretty much communication

midnight mantle Sep 18, 2017, 7:13 AM

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I'm still not sure which part of the process I want to focus on either

cinder iron Sep 18, 2017, 7:13 AM

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In my case, it was a casuality xD

buoyant echo Sep 18, 2017, 7:14 AM

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For me, it was a dream I had, thanks to a random advertisement for beta testing games.

midnight mantle Sep 18, 2017, 7:14 AM

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lol

cinder iron Sep 18, 2017, 7:15 AM

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OwO keep going!

buoyant echo Sep 18, 2017, 7:15 AM

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As odd as that sounds, it's what got me into video games, before I knew video games were a thing.

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(This, tied to the fact that I've been 'gaming' since I was 3? I think?) I just didn't realize it until then 😂

cinder iron Sep 18, 2017, 7:16 AM

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Lolmao

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When i was 3 i was smashing my head against things xP

buoyant echo Sep 18, 2017, 7:17 AM

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What is casuality for you, @cinder iron?

cinder iron Sep 18, 2017, 7:21 AM

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Never in my life i would imagine to program games... Just because i don't know, i didnt thought about it even though i found it interesting. I'm a computation engineer still studying (master and doctor purposes)... And one day i saw some guys programming something about star wars, i remember that one of them was russian and the team was a mess, i had no idea about unreal so i started learning by myself and with some organisation experience i had i was able to organise the team a bit, then i knew people that started to say what was wrong and what wasnt inside unreal (when you come in, you dont know what are the bad practices). Once i realised how easy was doing it badly i started focushing more on the good way of doing the things in all the fields inside my area (networking and Gameplay programming)

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Everything happened the first year, around 2014 ~

buoyant echo Sep 18, 2017, 7:23 AM

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That's a cool story!

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Thanks for sharing it 😃

cinder iron Sep 18, 2017, 7:23 AM

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Gluck ~ haha

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I like this kind of things

gray zinc Sep 18, 2017, 7:33 AM

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hey

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anyone here?

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needdd helpppp

buoyant echo Sep 18, 2017, 7:34 AM

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Don't ask to ask, just ask. 😉

gray zinc Sep 18, 2017, 7:34 AM

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lol

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well

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let me explain since someone is here

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I made a model in blender(house) and i exported to fbx

buoyant echo Sep 18, 2017, 7:35 AM

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(There's 1,534 here, not including staff.)

gray zinc Sep 18, 2017, 7:35 AM

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now i want to add textures to it but it wont work

buoyant echo Sep 18, 2017, 7:35 AM

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Did you add material slots in blender?

gray zinc Sep 18, 2017, 7:36 AM

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no i did not

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let me search that up

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?

buoyant echo Sep 18, 2017, 7:36 AM

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Try that first 😃

gray zinc Sep 18, 2017, 7:36 AM

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ok

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ill get back to you

buoyant echo Sep 18, 2017, 7:36 AM

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Mhm!

gray zinc Sep 18, 2017, 7:37 AM

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i want to add the textures in engine

buoyant echo Sep 18, 2017, 7:38 AM

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Regardless, anything made in blender needs a material id that will then transfer into unreal, where you can then work on the textures/material there.

gray zinc Sep 18, 2017, 7:38 AM

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i cant find how to exactly add that

buoyant echo Sep 18, 2017, 7:38 AM

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Remember, unreal doesn't understand that these things can be painted, or that you want them to be painted.

gray zinc Sep 18, 2017, 7:39 AM

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unless they have

buoyant echo Sep 18, 2017, 7:39 AM

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You'd follow the same workflow usually. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gRUUeFteQg

YouTube

URtuts

how to apply textures in blender 2.7x (beginners)

in this tutorial we will apply textures in blender ,we will see the method for blender render and cycles. http://urtuts.blogspot.com

▶ Play video

gray zinc Sep 18, 2017, 7:39 AM

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the material id>

buoyant echo Sep 18, 2017, 7:39 AM

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Yes.

gray zinc Sep 18, 2017, 7:39 AM

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thanks

buoyant echo Sep 18, 2017, 7:39 AM

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This video will give you a general knowledge of it in blender. Do a basic set up there, then transfer to Unreal to complete the texturing process.

gray zinc Sep 18, 2017, 7:40 AM

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alright ill let you know what happens

buoyant echo Sep 18, 2017, 7:40 AM

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Remember that Unreal is not a texturing program, so you can't paint onto the model, it will only accept the UV's that you mark up throughout the creation of the blender FBX.

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Sure thing. 😃

plush yew Sep 18, 2017, 7:41 AM

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Please welcome @high mural to the community! :beers:

gray zinc Sep 18, 2017, 7:46 AM

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video just taught me

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how to do it in blender

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im still confused on what i need to do to do it in ue4?

buoyant echo Sep 18, 2017, 8:05 AM

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Did you follow it through? 😄

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If you did, transfer the textured material to Unreal.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZGc1WwECso

YouTube

ERAU Game Development

From Blender to UE4

Create a barrel from start to finish including modelling, texturing, uv unwrapping, exporting, and UE4 materials. Designed for the Game Development Club at E...

▶ Play video

plush yew Sep 18, 2017, 8:08 AM

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Please welcome @torpid sail to the community! :beers:

gray zinc Sep 18, 2017, 8:27 AM

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@buoyant echo another question if you are there?

plush yew Sep 18, 2017, 8:57 AM

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Please welcome @tacit pollen to the community! :beers:

icy vigil Sep 18, 2017, 9:12 AM

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I want to apologize to everyone here. When I joined this place couple months back I wasn't really ready to learn things from scratch . I needed to take the time to grow up and understand what I really wanted. I understand alot of people here can accomplish great things but they push themselves to do better. I was taking the easy way out instead of doing things and learning things 1 by 1. Thankyou again for helping me understand and helping me grow. @sacred crater ty for your assets and teaching me the basics your wisdom really kicked me into gear to understand the infinite possibilites unreal engine has.

sacred crater Sep 18, 2017, 9:16 AM

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Awwwh you're welcome! :)

gray zinc Sep 18, 2017, 9:24 AM

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awww

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😃

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@sacred crater

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yo

sacred crater Sep 18, 2017, 9:36 AM

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yes?

gray zinc Sep 18, 2017, 10:01 AM

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can you help me with something ? @sacred crater

surreal viper Sep 18, 2017, 10:02 AM

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I hope that one day I stop being annoyed each time someone fails to understand that he/she should just ask his/her questions, not asking if he/she can ask :/

gray zinc Sep 18, 2017, 10:03 AM

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hey i wanna be polite @surreal viper

surreal viper Sep 18, 2017, 10:04 AM

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I understand that tbh, but it doesn't work too well in a chat like this

because there are potential people who would be able to help you if they would see ur question... but they won't ask you what it is

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and last time you asked if you can ask the one who ended up helping you asked you to ask instead of asking if you can ask 😄

gray zinc Sep 18, 2017, 10:05 AM

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aha

surreal viper Sep 18, 2017, 10:06 AM

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I see why posting random questions without addressing anyone feels weird at first, but that is what works best here, and is better for everyone I think

gray zinc Sep 18, 2017, 10:06 AM

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ok

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ill ask

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How do i make a procedriual wall in ue4?

surreal viper Sep 18, 2017, 10:08 AM

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https://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/INT/Videos/PLZlv_N0_O1ga0aV9jVqJgog0VWz1cLL5f/mI7eYXMJ5eI/

should be a good start

Live Training - Blueprint Generating Procedural Rooms

Technical Writer Ian Shadden takes us through a project designed as a foundation for square tile, turn-based strategy games in Blueprints. We'll randomly generate a map,

cold lantern Sep 18, 2017, 10:13 AM

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I see there's 4.18 branch on github, can we compile and run it or is it some sort of in-progress stuff ?

surreal viper Sep 18, 2017, 10:13 AM

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in progress stuff ,but you can compile it anyway

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as long as it compiles ^^

cold lantern Sep 18, 2017, 10:14 AM

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right :3

gray zinc Sep 18, 2017, 10:14 AM

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thanks

midnight mantle Sep 18, 2017, 10:17 AM

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ooomg I'm trying to understand blueprints

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I feel so retarded

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some things I'm like...yeah I get that part

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but other times...@_@

gray zinc Sep 18, 2017, 10:33 AM

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hey guys

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making a house

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on blender to

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im loooking for it to be 90^2

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meters

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does that seem about right?

ionic sedge Sep 18, 2017, 10:49 AM

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@mint sequoia You need to set up the copy pose mesh to be a child skeletal mesh in the hierarchy for it to work properly when simulating physics.

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Pretty sure I said this yesterday too. 😛

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But it would still work if it wasn't a child, just with a one frame delay.

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 10:49 AM

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I know, that isn't the solution, they are childs

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Sec

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https://i.imgur.com/3rW07po.png

Imgur

ionic sedge Sep 18, 2017, 10:51 AM

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Yeah that should work.

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 10:51 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/gWs3Lnh.png

Imgur

ionic sedge Sep 18, 2017, 10:51 AM

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📎 record.gif

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Does your armor have a similar skeleton?

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The best option is to use the same hierarchy. You can add bones if you need to though, but the general hierarchy before the new bones (if any) should be the same.

empty adder Sep 18, 2017, 10:54 AM

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Hey. My game seems to be a bit too trigger happy when it comes to optimization. In the corner of the screen i can see meshes dissapearing. How would i go about fixing this? 😃

sacred crater Sep 18, 2017, 10:58 AM

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@gray zinc, zealsavvy is a client of mine. I'm here to moderate, not help everyone :)

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 11:04 AM

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The skeletons aren't the same, maybe you're thinking of Set Master Pose Component, that requires the same, Copy Pose From Mesh can be different, it only copies animation from bones with identical names, if it was still doing that properly then it should simulate fine @ionic sedge

ionic sedge Sep 18, 2017, 11:05 AM

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They don't need to be the same but they should have the same hierarchy before the additions.

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That being said I wouldn't mind a mode where the bones are copied without having the same hierarchy, I had the same problem you were having when trying to attach meshes to a head using a bone called head. It didn't have the same hierarchy before the head so it didn't work.

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The difference between Set Master Pose Component and Copy Pose from Mesh is that with Set Master Pose Component they need to be 100% the same, with Copy Pose from Mesh they need to have the same hierarchy, but you can add children bones on top of the bones that already existed in the hierarchy.

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@mint sequoia I wrote a feature request of the behavior you (and I) want but for now you'll need to use the rig of your character+a bunch of extra bones (if you have them). Forum thread: https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/feedback-for-epic/1355564-copy-pose-from-mesh-should-work-even-when-the-hierarchy-isn-t-the-same-modularized-rigs

mint sequoia Sep 18, 2017, 11:37 AM

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I might resort to making the change myself eventually, I figured it could be an oversight rather than a missing feature, we'll see

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Anyway goodnight, thanks for the assist

plush yew Sep 18, 2017, 11:40 AM

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Please welcome @plush yew to the community! :beers:

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Please welcome @plush yew to the community! :beers:

plush yew Sep 18, 2017, 12:26 PM

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Please welcome @ancient trench to the community! :beers:

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Please welcome @stoic cobalt to the community! :beers:

plush yew Sep 18, 2017, 2:02 PM

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Please welcome @teal pollen to the community! :beers:

teal pollen Sep 18, 2017, 2:02 PM

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Hello

frosty bloom Sep 18, 2017, 2:23 PM

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Hi

plush yew Sep 18, 2017, 2:30 PM

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Please welcome @fleet lantern to the community! :beers:

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 2:57 PM

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if anyone needs a hand with anything today im gonna be around for once 😂

primal prairie Sep 18, 2017, 2:57 PM

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make my game pls

scenic chasm Sep 18, 2017, 2:57 PM

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^^

plush yew Sep 18, 2017, 2:59 PM

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Don't forget to offer a ~~50%~~ 30% cut of the profits

primal prairie Sep 18, 2017, 2:59 PM

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and 3% of the profits

scenic chasm Sep 18, 2017, 3:02 PM

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and a mother-in-law tossed in for good measure.

primal prairie Sep 18, 2017, 3:30 PM

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to be honest i dont think he is actually around like he said he would be xD

plush yew Sep 18, 2017, 3:32 PM

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Please welcome @plush yew to the community! :beers:

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henlo

primal prairie Sep 18, 2017, 3:55 PM

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hi

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 5:54 PM

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I am around

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no one has DM'd me :p

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 7:04 PM

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Man im getting sick of quixel crashing 24/7

plush yew Sep 18, 2017, 7:21 PM

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Please welcome @rustic panther to the community! :beers:

rustic panther Sep 18, 2017, 7:21 PM

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Welcome, self

plush yew Sep 18, 2017, 7:33 PM

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Please welcome @plush yew to the community! :beers:

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Oh wow. Didnt knew this discord exists. Always were in game dev league

vast pine Sep 18, 2017, 7:39 PM

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Welcome

safe rose Sep 18, 2017, 8:37 PM

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@plush yew +1 Yeah, you can get banned for promoting other discord channels

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Especially this one for some reason over in GDL

vast pine Sep 18, 2017, 8:44 PM

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Must be a discord hilander going on

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 8:50 PM

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Popping on to another server to advertise another server is generally frowned upon as spam.

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But there's no rule against linking other servers in GDL where relevant and I've pointed several people towards Unreal Slackers from there before.

wild kestrel Sep 18, 2017, 8:51 PM

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Well it made me join it ;3 didn't knew about Game Dev League

frank escarp Sep 18, 2017, 8:53 PM

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GDL has its own unreal chat

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 8:54 PM

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Much smaller crowd there, mind.

wild kestrel Sep 18, 2017, 8:55 PM

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well i join because i figured it not just Unreal, which makes it good place to also be

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 8:56 PM

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Definitely handy.

proper quiver Sep 18, 2017, 8:57 PM

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for some reason VR keeps starting when my game starts

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how can I disable this?

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 8:58 PM

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Serious question - have you tried searching on the subject?

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I feel like I've heard this issue mentioned many times, surely someone's written about it online?

proper quiver Sep 18, 2017, 8:59 PM

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yes

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 8:59 PM

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https://www.google.com/search?q=ue4+vr+startup
Third result for me: https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/441149/how-to-disable-auto-steamvr-launch-on-ue4-launch.html

proper quiver Sep 18, 2017, 9:00 PM

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I tried all those solutions

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did not work

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ofcourse I searched :p

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first thing I did, in fact, did so MANY times before resorting to asking question in a discord lol

safe rose Sep 18, 2017, 9:00 PM

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?

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 9:00 PM

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You say of course, but you'd be surprised at how little effort some people make to resolve their own problem. 🤷 Wasn't a personal offense.

proper quiver Sep 18, 2017, 9:01 PM

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yeah I'm aware low effort yadda

safe rose Sep 18, 2017, 9:01 PM

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@proper quiver Just diable the plugins

proper quiver Sep 18, 2017, 9:01 PM

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I'm asking in case I missed something super obvious

safe rose Sep 18, 2017, 9:01 PM

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Have you tried that yet?

proper quiver Sep 18, 2017, 9:01 PM

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ok, I haven't tried disabling the plugin, I will try thanks

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 9:01 PM

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So you tried both changing the setting in Steam to not auto-launch AND tried disabling the SteamVR Plugin for that project?

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Lies! So much for trying all the solutions. 😛

proper quiver Sep 18, 2017, 9:02 PM

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I did set Steam VR to stop auto launching

safe rose Sep 18, 2017, 9:02 PM

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Sion, UE4 will sometimes start it up, even if the SteamVR option is unchecked.

proper quiver Sep 18, 2017, 9:02 PM

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it still does so

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yeah

safe rose Sep 18, 2017, 9:02 PM

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People have been having to disable the VR plugins to get it to really really stop

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 9:02 PM

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Not surprised the SteamVr option isn't enough.

safe rose Sep 18, 2017, 9:02 PM

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It is kinda annoying

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But, meh.

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All you have to do is disable the plugins

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 9:03 PM

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I imagine it's UE4 that's actually starting SteamVR in the first place, not Steam starting SteamVR in response to UE4.

safe rose Sep 18, 2017, 9:03 PM

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Should be disabled by default as I would assume most devs aren't working on VR projects

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 9:03 PM

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Yeah, I'd think the same.

safe rose Sep 18, 2017, 9:03 PM

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And it shouldn't be assumed that they are

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 9:04 PM

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If I had to come up with a reason for having it enabled, it's because the average person diving in to UE4 is horribly helpless and will just shit a brick at trying to start their VR game's development if they have to learn how to enable a plugin.

safe rose Sep 18, 2017, 9:05 PM

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Hmm, if that were the case, they would have SteamOSS enabled by default

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Because that's one of those things people seem to forget when trying to make Steam MP games

proper quiver Sep 18, 2017, 9:05 PM

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I think if someone were to invest 1000+ dollars getting a vr headset, downloading unreal engine and starting development, they are probably smart enough or aware enough to enable VR by themselves

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you can't really stumble into this lol

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 9:06 PM

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You'd be wrong, Flux. 😛

proper quiver Sep 18, 2017, 9:06 PM

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yeah yeah..

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 9:06 PM

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Have you not seen people writing C++ code, learning UE4, take a potrait orientation photo of their screen on their mobile phone to share their code?

proper quiver Sep 18, 2017, 9:07 PM

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cool, that worked, thanks for helping me, for some reason last time I googled this solution, and saw that exact post, I thought I had actually disabled the plugin

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 9:07 PM

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👍

proper quiver Sep 18, 2017, 9:07 PM

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and even, for some reason, the PACKAGED version of the game was starting VR which was super weird because my game isn't VR at all

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but w/e

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 9:08 PM

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If the project has the SteamVR plugin enabled, I'd expect the plugin to get packaged too

safe rose Sep 18, 2017, 9:08 PM

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Hmm

proper quiver Sep 18, 2017, 9:08 PM

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oh, that's silly

safe rose Sep 18, 2017, 9:08 PM

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The only way that would start up in packaged games...

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would be if you had it checked off

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In project settings

tribal kayak Sep 18, 2017, 9:08 PM

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What would stop a particle system from appearing in game when spawning it through blueprint?
It works fine if I drag it into a map

safe rose Sep 18, 2017, 9:09 PM

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because sometimes I forget to check it off on new VR projects

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That's an annoying thing too. If I have a SteamVR plugin enabled, it should be assumed that I would want that enabled by default

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But nope, it's two separate options

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 9:09 PM

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@proper quiver Why is it silly for a plugin that your project depends on (by virtue of having the plugin enabled) to get packaged with your game?

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I mean, yeah, you don't actually want it, but it is doing the right thing by packaging up all dependencies.

tribal kayak Sep 18, 2017, 9:10 PM

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NVM I set the camera facing position wrong while using ortho

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all is well

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 9:10 PM

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The default may be unreasonable, but if it's enabled it should be packaged.

proper quiver Sep 18, 2017, 9:13 PM

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@livid haven ah because I can imagine building my game in VR (in editor) but not actually using VR in my game (not a VR game)

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VR can be an input device for world building etc

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 9:13 PM

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Ah.

proper quiver Sep 18, 2017, 9:13 PM

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but w/e 😃 not my concern

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 9:13 PM

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I can see that potential workflow, yeah. Problem is that plugins are specified by the project, not local to the user's editor.

proper quiver Sep 18, 2017, 9:13 PM

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makes sense

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 9:14 PM

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Though that's an interesting idea.

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 9:19 PM

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i cant stop laughing over epic enabling cross platform by mistake

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 9:22 PM

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?

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 9:22 PM

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https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps4-and-xbox-one-cross-play-was-briefly-live-in-fo/1100-6453406/

GameSpot

PS4 And Xbox One Cross-Play Was Briefly Live In Fortnite, Described As "Configuration Issue"

Players on the two consoles will reportedly playing with each other, something that Sony has famously not allowed.

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 9:23 PM

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Huh.

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 9:23 PM

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i find it way funnier than i should

livid haven Sep 18, 2017, 9:23 PM

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... I wonder if that had to do with our servers going down. X|

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 9:23 PM

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lmao most likely

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shame that sony are so no no

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and wont play with other people

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i imagine there is alot of legal stuff behind it though

fossil ore Sep 18, 2017, 9:35 PM

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l o l

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 10:02 PM

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omg ps5 already confirmed for development expected to be on view in 2019

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jfc

primal prairie Sep 18, 2017, 10:06 PM

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man the teaming in fortnite is fucking bad

safe rose Sep 18, 2017, 10:10 PM

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@primal prairie Get Gud

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Get Sum Frends

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Hmm, I can't even l33t speak

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😭

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But yeah, that's every Multiplayer game ever created. #PUGlife

primal prairie Sep 18, 2017, 10:22 PM

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noo no

torpid ingot Sep 18, 2017, 10:22 PM

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The unreal engine questions being sent to my email are 50% not marked with "Question Matched in". 😦

primal prairie Sep 18, 2017, 10:22 PM

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its against rules to be in teams in Battle Royale @safe rose

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its a bannable offense

pallid compass Sep 18, 2017, 10:24 PM

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never forget fam

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people dont give a flying foof online

primal prairie Sep 18, 2017, 10:31 PM

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hopefully they will when they get banned

safe rose Sep 18, 2017, 10:31 PM

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@torpid ingot Aye, not sure wtf is up with answerhub

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I keep thinking I responded to those messages

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Since that's how it usually is

torpid ingot Sep 18, 2017, 10:32 PM

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Yea. Thanks to that my filters are failing!! D:

safe rose Sep 18, 2017, 10:43 PM

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hmm

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crap is filtered on the forums

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I could see shit or fuck

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Didn't know crap was a "four letter bad word"

floral heart Sep 18, 2017, 11:19 PM

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What's the point of banning teaming in battle royale anyway? Is it not the point of the mode to appeal to every type of scumbaggery imaginable? Seems like you'd be banning the players who are perfectly suited for it.

safe rose Sep 18, 2017, 11:21 PM

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@floral heart Well, seeing how they just want to copy PUBG

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I mean, they might as well keep the same ruleset as well

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Although, not sure if PUBG has actually banned anyone yet. I've seen plenty of teamups happening in viral videos

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Streamers definitely teaming up

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sooo.... /shrug

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But, if you're trying to mirror a game that made over $100 million in less than 6 months... you might as well copy the shit outta it

floral heart Sep 18, 2017, 11:23 PM

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Mostly I'm criticising the incredible naivete of having a 'solo queue' that is practically unenforcable. Though probably less of an issue in PUBG if you're less likely to end up in the same instance as your teammates.

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Because PUBG has so many players right now.

safe rose Sep 18, 2017, 11:24 PM

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No idea. But

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I do wonder what next year's hit will be.

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PUBG concurrent sustainability... I just don't see that being the same next year. But who knows really. We'll see what they do in the next few months.

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Gotta gobble every bit of $$$ they can, while they can.

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It's pretty much surpased League and DOTA, so if we can expect something similar to what they do for eSports. Could be something interesting to see.

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meanwhile... StarCitizen

gray zinc Sep 18, 2017, 11:32 PM

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hey

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can i get in a call with someone nee dhelp

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anybody?

river scarab Sep 18, 2017, 11:35 PM

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hey guys, my cpp project is just not being recognized as a cpp anymore by the editor. I don't see the c++ section in the Content Browser anymore and the Compile button on the Editor is basically not doing anything. It's a no op button now.

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has any seen this before?

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nvm, I think I see the issue.

safe rose Sep 18, 2017, 11:39 PM

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@gray zinc No, but you can ask your question and one of us may be able to help you with something

safe rose Sep 18, 2017, 11:58 PM

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@gray zinc in public channel, not via PMs please

gray zinc Sep 19, 2017, 12:01 AM

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@safe rose How could i insert a .fbx file and texturize them in the engine?

safe rose Sep 19, 2017, 12:02 AM

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@gray zinc https://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/INT/Engine/Content/FBX/index.html

FBX Content Pipeline

Content import pipeline using the FBX format for meshes, animations, materials, and textures.

proper quiver Sep 19, 2017, 12:34 AM

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anyone here have a post build step working that I can take a look at as an example?

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trying to copy folder + delete another folder after packaging

vast anvil Sep 19, 2017, 1:01 AM

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hmm, I just changed my deploy method for test versions of my game to rsync to a remote server, and compress there (pak files disabled)

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but that makes me think - I may get clogged up with old files a little if I remove them from the game

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ooh, nice, rsync has a --delete option

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so I guess I can just wipe the build directory once in a while

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@proper quiver you can see my bash script here:

rsync -vr WindowsNoEditor userredacted@chozabu.net:/home/userredacted/w2upload/

ssh otherhost << EOF
    cd w2upload/
    tar -zcvf uracerz.tar.gz WindowsNoEditor
    mv uracerz.tar.gz ~/chozabu.net/stuff/
EOF

echo "seems complete?"

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I'm actually running it in windows using openswan (a cygwin distro, gives some linux/unix/gnu functionality)

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that copies files to my server, compress and places in a public directory

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oops, I see ssh otherhost is incorrect! (not yet run this script yet, just chucked command I typed into it)

proper quiver Sep 19, 2017, 1:13 AM

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@vast anvil thanks but how did you get UE to run the script in the first place? are you using UBT/ABT or whatever it's called to do builds off of the editor?

vast anvil Sep 19, 2017, 1:14 AM

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@proper quiver oh, I just do the build off the editor and run the script from a terminal window (that is always open anyhow) at the mo

proper quiver Sep 19, 2017, 1:14 AM

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ahhhh

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yeah I mean like automated 😃

vast anvil Sep 19, 2017, 1:15 AM

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would be nice to automate more - but I think I am happy with this for now - only takes two actions from me to update existing link

proper quiver Sep 19, 2017, 1:15 AM

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so press build -> when its done run a script automatically

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right ok

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https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/411431/prepost-build-step-in-ubt.html

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this ALMOST works but

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I can't get a path to the target build folder

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if I make it an absolute path it might break for teammates

vast anvil Sep 19, 2017, 1:18 AM

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hmm, I'm not yet familar with UBT or win/powershell commands, so there my guess is probably less usefull than the answers already on that question

proper quiver Sep 19, 2017, 1:18 AM

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sall good thanks for trying to help 😃

vast anvil Sep 19, 2017, 1:20 AM

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no worries - good luck! It'll probably be easy... once you know how to do it 😄

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@proper quiver if you get it running, would be great to see your setup - I'd sure like to extend it to upload and compress for me too

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 1:36 AM

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Please welcome @frozen ruin to the community! :beers:

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 2:19 AM

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Please welcome @sand thunder to the community! :beers:

hexed lance Sep 19, 2017, 2:26 AM

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ok, something is wrong and I dont know how to fix it

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my packaged game crashes with a "fatal error"

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but shows no details

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it wokrs fine in editor

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I have no idea waht ot do

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this is the log file https://hastebin.com/dewevinihu.md

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ive tried several full rebuilds, but to no avail

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 2:45 AM

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Please welcome @plush yew to the community! :beers:

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 3:32 AM

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Please welcome @plush yew to the community! :beers:

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Aye!

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HUUGEE issue here and I can't find a fix

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So, when putting these meshes inside my project it says I need to rebuild lighting which I do, and this happens

📎 Screenshot_283.png

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but then this happens... Almost as if both shadows are mixing

📎 Screenshot_284.png

hexed lance Sep 19, 2017, 3:36 AM

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wtf

brave horizon Sep 19, 2017, 3:36 AM

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lol

hexed lance Sep 19, 2017, 3:37 AM

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probably ask in the #lighting channel

brave horizon Sep 19, 2017, 3:37 AM

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Terrifying. @plush yew maybe try posting in graphics, might be better answers / help for ya

hexed lance Sep 19, 2017, 3:37 AM

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wait

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theres no #lighting

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what happpened to #lighting????

brave horizon Sep 19, 2017, 3:37 AM

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Probably too fragmented.

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 3:39 AM

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Please welcome @grave roost to the community! :beers:

tired aspen Sep 19, 2017, 4:06 AM

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hey quick question all, this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NioWo0B8hc) has a bunch of awesome effects made in unity. I was wondering specifically if unreal can do the more cel-shaded type effects like that video?

YouTube

cokey li

My VFX reel

:)

▶ Play video

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 6:05 AM

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Please welcome @plush yew to the community! :beers:

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 6:35 AM

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Please welcome @torpid brook to the community! :beers:

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 7:04 AM

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Please welcome @plush yew to the community! :beers:

ancient trench Sep 19, 2017, 8:26 AM

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anyone could give me pointers on how to create a tether between two actors/components? I've been trying with physical constraint actors, but doesn't seem to work like I expect it to

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 8:50 AM

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Please welcome @wise birch to the community! :beers:

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 9:06 AM

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Looking towards twitter I remember the UnrealBot giving random game ideas when the "Unreal Slackers" where still on Slack. Does this functionality still exist somehow/somewhere?

floral heart Sep 19, 2017, 9:50 AM

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!gameidea

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 9:50 AM

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A role-playing game where you watch dogs for the future of Earth.

glossy flame Sep 19, 2017, 10:07 AM

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@hexed lance that most definitely shows details, an EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION means you're accessing invalid memory, most likely null

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If you get a dmp file, you can load that into VS and see the root of the issue

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If you don't get a dmp, enable "Include Debug Files" in your packaging settings

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Also, I don't see any evidence of a lighting channel ever existing, based on posts in the announcements channel

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:p

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 10:24 AM

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@floral heart thank you 😄 ^^ I loved that feature

warm pelican Sep 19, 2017, 10:29 AM

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@everyone http://pdgconf.com

PDGC

Jesse Collins

PDGC: Syntax Error

glacial belfry Sep 19, 2017, 10:36 AM

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Anyone here with access to the Microsoft Mixed Reality headsets that have 2 seconds to answer some questions?

livid haven Sep 19, 2017, 10:57 AM

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@warm pelican Oooh, neat. Will have to check that out.

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Will need to do some research, but I could see about being a speaker.

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 12:20 PM

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Please welcome @scenic stump to the community! :beers:

river scarab Sep 19, 2017, 12:40 PM

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Hey guys, I'm reading all blueprints from a folder using UObjectLibrary but its returning the correct blueprint reference but a duplicate of the file with SKEL_ prefix. I can't find any reference online about it. Any idea what this is and how to filter it?

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The SKEL_ reference succeds on Actor casting too. (I thought it could be a skeletal reference for my blueprint)

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found a reference from 2014 from a Epic Staff about the SKEL_ thing being a bug. 💩

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 1:48 PM

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Please welcome @viscid pelican to the community! :beers:

scarlet echo Sep 19, 2017, 1:59 PM

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Might interest some of you regarding the state of UE4 official documentation http://timhobsonue4.snappages.com/blog/2017/09/16/9-16-17-chris-told-me-to-post-something

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Source: https://twitter.com/timhobsonue4/status/909443375107006464

Tim Hobson (@TimHobsonUE4)

When I'm asked why I don't post on AnswerHub/forums/my own site anymore, I think this sums up what I've been doing.

https://t.co/Xo6M39y41c

vast anvil Sep 19, 2017, 2:03 PM

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@proper quiver I had a glance at PS/UBT - it looks like it should be dooable to call a bash script from it - though it may be easier to write in PS/UBT straight up, here is the latest version of my bash script

echo "Sync complete"

ssh alexpb@chozabu.net << EOF
    cd w2upload/
    echo "compressing"
    tar -zcvfu ~/chozabu.net/stuff/uracerz.tar.gz WindowsNoEditor
    echo "compressed?"
EOF

echo "seems complete?"

I just added the --delete to rsync and -u to tar - which should make it remove remote files that are not on my machine, and quickly update the compressed archive

sudden agate Sep 19, 2017, 2:10 PM

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Is there a Livestream today?

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There's no announcement

ionic sedge Sep 19, 2017, 2:19 PM

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Good question. 😛

viscid pelican Sep 19, 2017, 2:19 PM

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Hey guys I'm trying to follow the C++ Tanks vs. Zombies tutorial but it doesn't work for me. It seems to be using an older version (And the AttachTo() function) and I'm getting errors even when I follow the tutorial exactly. Is there any point in trying to go through it now or should I just find something else?

wary wave Sep 19, 2017, 2:22 PM

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Try AttachToComponent, perhaps

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 2:23 PM

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Please welcome @plush yew to the community! :beers:

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this the biggest UE server on dis.?

cloud cobalt Sep 19, 2017, 2:33 PM

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Yeah

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 2:36 PM

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Is UE4 for single makers or for teams?

ancient trench Sep 19, 2017, 2:42 PM

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that depends on what your goal is I guess? 😛

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I've been learning it through udemy courses, I think you def can make stuff alone 😃

inner mountain Sep 19, 2017, 2:44 PM

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@plush yew don't listen anyone who tell you that "ue4 is only for AAA games/large teams/etc". Just install and try it, it's free

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also there are good free tutorials right on their website. And Udemy UE4 course is great as well, but paid.

ancient trench Sep 19, 2017, 2:49 PM

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if you're patient, udemy often offers discounts, you can pick it up for 10 €/$

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it's a long course, have not done all sections yet, but the first few are definitly worth imo. If you're a programmer already it can feel a bit slow but eh

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 2:50 PM

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Please welcome @plush yew to the community! :beers:

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@ancient trench if I could now what a "single maker game" and what "team maker game" is I could answer.

ancient trench Sep 19, 2017, 2:52 PM

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just start small

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 2:52 PM

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ya. but what is small?

ancient trench Sep 19, 2017, 2:52 PM

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if you're thinking of making mmo's & multiplayer stuff, I think you're overreaching

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err well, that udemy course teaches you to make a tank game, it's driving a tank, shooting with it at another tank and some basic AI

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landscape

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it's a good tour through the aspects of unreal, the game isn't fun wsoe, but at least you've gone through the process once

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 2:54 PM

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i want multiplayer games 😳 I do not want a mmo.

ancient trench Sep 19, 2017, 2:55 PM

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well, you can't run before you can walk 😃

inner mountain Sep 19, 2017, 2:55 PM

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@plush yew: if you don't have any programming experience – then start with tic-tac-toe or maybe tetris or something like that

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just to earn some experience before making the game you really wnat to make

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then you can make, say, Battleship (Sea Battle) with multiplayer for 2 players

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to learn multiplayer basics

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 2:56 PM

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i can make rock paper scissors with python

inner mountain Sep 19, 2017, 2:57 PM

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try to make it with new tool (e.g. UE4), maybe with 3d objects or some visual effects. Try to make it both in Blueprints and c++, to make yourself familiar with the editor

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it's just an examples, you can try to make anything you want, just it's a question of time

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and also if you're stuck with something complex probably you will abandon it and won't complete

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 3:02 PM

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ok

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 5:35 PM

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can you make multiplayer with paper2d?

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 6:18 PM

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Please welcome @lusty elm to the community! :beers:

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 6:48 PM

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Please welcome @civic osprey to the community! :beers:

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 7:13 PM

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Please welcome @royal hare to the community! :beers:

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Please welcome @misty holly to the community! :beers:

tulip vault Sep 19, 2017, 7:29 PM

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My editor is constantly unable to save worlds, and i haven't the slightest clue why

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no editor settings have been changed past quality of life settings for myself

tulip vault Sep 19, 2017, 8:13 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/R1SJRxk.png

Imgur

livid haven Sep 19, 2017, 8:31 PM

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Using source control?

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Or were previously and have it off now?

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Double checked that file isn't set to read-only?

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At the file system level.

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@tulip vault

tranquil osprey Sep 19, 2017, 8:37 PM

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I was wondering how hard do you guys it would be to create a custom widget, I want one thatcombines the rotate/move,scale all in 1 but also have one for free roate, not loced to any specific axis it bothers me alot that this is not posible for placing rocks and such

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📎 image.png

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this thing

📎 image.png

tulip vault Sep 19, 2017, 8:44 PM

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blank level?

livid haven Sep 19, 2017, 8:44 PM

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... eh?

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📎 unknown.png

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That file.

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Check if it's read-only for whatever reason.

azure sierra Sep 19, 2017, 9:19 PM

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is rcon something built into unreal engine or some type of plugin?

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I can't find any information regarding it

safe rose Sep 19, 2017, 9:22 PM

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@azure sierra Never heard of rcon before, so I had to google it

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wtf was that

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testing

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wtf testing

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that was some strange shit going on in here

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oh there it is

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wtf

azure sierra Sep 19, 2017, 9:22 PM

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i see it too...

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mines doing it

safe rose Sep 19, 2017, 9:22 PM

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@maiden swift

azure sierra Sep 19, 2017, 9:23 PM

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testing

safe rose Sep 19, 2017, 9:23 PM

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Okay, I think there's some illegal bot action going on <@&213101288538374145>

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@azure sierra https://wiki.unrealengine.com/Server_Administration

Server Administration

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^ read that for rcon

azure sierra Sep 19, 2017, 9:24 PM

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ah thank you

worn granite Sep 19, 2017, 9:24 PM

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?

safe rose Sep 19, 2017, 9:25 PM

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Why does it only happen in here though?

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Testing this out one more time

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Now I have to spam

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I think the culprit ran away

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It's gone now

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What a shame

worn granite Sep 19, 2017, 9:25 PM

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lol what was it?

safe rose Sep 19, 2017, 9:25 PM

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Damnit

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Testing to see what the freak is going on

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Hello wtf

ashen brook Sep 19, 2017, 9:26 PM

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boop

safe rose Sep 19, 2017, 9:26 PM

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hmm...

worn granite Sep 19, 2017, 9:26 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/275199526695075841/275201125878071296/1.PNG

safe rose Sep 19, 2017, 9:26 PM

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oh wells, it's gone now

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Some bot, was copying our messages

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and displaying them

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for a very quick second

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and then deleting it

worn granite Sep 19, 2017, 9:27 PM

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very odd

safe rose Sep 19, 2017, 9:27 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Maybe admin bot to catch people who shittalk and then delete their own messages, records them

worn granite Sep 19, 2017, 9:27 PM

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you really think unrealbot got a new feature?

safe rose Sep 19, 2017, 9:28 PM

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No

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I don't think it was unrealbot though

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At least @azure sierra saw it too

azure sierra Sep 19, 2017, 9:29 PM

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yup

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testing

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it stopped though

worn granite Sep 19, 2017, 9:29 PM

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I gotta wonder why it'd even post

safe rose Sep 19, 2017, 9:30 PM

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No idea

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It was really strange

worn granite Sep 19, 2017, 9:30 PM

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Not like you'd even need to for testing that

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Though if its a bot I wonder...

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!help

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 9:30 PM

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@worn granite, Sent you a DM with information.

worn granite Sep 19, 2017, 9:31 PM

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!info

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 10:24 PM

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Please welcome @woven falcon to the community! :beers:

plush yew Sep 19, 2017, 11:05 PM

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Please welcome @grave forum to the community! :beers:

shell jetty Sep 19, 2017, 11:05 PM

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it was super weird for me too as user list wasnt loading that time

tulip vault Sep 19, 2017, 11:42 PM

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@livid haven there's no read-only shenanigans happening, and it happens to every world level file

livid haven Sep 19, 2017, 11:42 PM

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Taken a look at the logs to see if there's anything in there that could be helpful in diagnosing this?

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Output Log works

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Just look immediately after attempting to save

tulip vault Sep 19, 2017, 11:44 PM

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alright i'll find a log

livid haven Sep 19, 2017, 11:47 PM

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I mean look at the Output Log tab

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In the Editor

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When you go to save.

tulip vault Sep 19, 2017, 11:47 PM

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yeah i gotcha. unreal is being slow processing some new materials

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i don't have an SSD to put it on

livid haven Sep 19, 2017, 11:48 PM

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looks at Fortnite workspace...

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... yeah... I don't have a big enough SSD for this...

tulip vault Sep 19, 2017, 11:51 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/XF6urzd.png

Imgur

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i'll try to get a better image in a sec, Unreal decided to clutter the log after this

grave roost Sep 19, 2017, 11:56 PM

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hello yall

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@tulip vault u doing code

tulip vault Sep 19, 2017, 11:57 PM

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no

livid haven Sep 19, 2017, 11:57 PM

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He's just trying to save a map.

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Not code related.

tulip vault Sep 19, 2017, 11:58 PM

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i haven't touched anything really

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just standard place mesh and texture

grave roost Sep 20, 2017, 12:57 AM

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has any 1 used the landscape auto material

grand sonnet Sep 20, 2017, 1:28 AM

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Newbie here.
Rotating the camera with right-mouse + drag uses a different pivot point in orthogonal vs perspective projection.
Is there a way to have the perspective view behave like orthogonal? (ie, rotate around the focused object, rather than around camera position)

white magnet Sep 20, 2017, 1:41 AM

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You can do that by holding Alt and then left-click+drag

grand sonnet Sep 20, 2017, 1:47 AM

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@white magnet Thanks. Is there anyway to have it as default, ie, not to have to use Alt?

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(Is there any rationale for making ortho and perspective behave differently?)

white magnet Sep 20, 2017, 1:53 AM

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Unfortunately I'm not seeing anything like that in editor preferences.

plush yew Sep 20, 2017, 1:53 AM

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Please welcome @upbeat kettle to the community! :beers:

grim carbon Sep 20, 2017, 2:04 AM

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I have a general question - I have an effect I'm trying to create that I'm finally giving up on just winging it, and need help - is there a particles/effects channel here? Would I be better off taking it to #legacy-physics ?

grand sonnet Sep 20, 2017, 2:05 AM

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@white magnet Cool, thanks anyway 😄

swift spindle Sep 20, 2017, 2:11 AM

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hey... having problems with foliage not changing my navmesh

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any ideas ?

dire storm Sep 20, 2017, 4:44 AM

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So simple question most likely but while watching speed level design vidoes I was wondering when people spam terrain assets all over the map, duplicate and stack them does the engine render out the whole asset during runtime or just the faces shown to the camera. I'm assuming its the second answer. Does spamming assets everywhere in speed level design reduce performance if it used as an actual level which would make a selective approach more viable? I get that the speed designs are great for rapid prototyping.

brave horizon Sep 20, 2017, 4:48 AM

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Anyone get this error when using remote build for mac (from windows)

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LogPlayLevel: UnrealBuildTool: ERROR: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.

plush yew Sep 20, 2017, 4:56 AM

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Please welcome @nimble plaza to the community! :beers:

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Please welcome @raw ravine to the community! :beers:

tulip vault Sep 20, 2017, 5:12 AM

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@dire storm renders the whole asset unless you managed to figure out realtime backface culling

livid haven Sep 20, 2017, 5:13 AM

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@dire storm Realtime backface culling?

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I feel like you mean something different.

south ridge Sep 20, 2017, 5:13 AM

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Back faces are not drawn by pixel shader, but they are absolutely processed by vertex shader

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The reason people spam assets nowdays is cause vertices are usually cheap

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Occluded faces may or may not be drawn too

livid haven Sep 20, 2017, 5:13 AM

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Yeah, that distinction is what I figured needed to be made.

south ridge Sep 20, 2017, 5:14 AM

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So yes, spamming terrain assets is probably OK, but those assets must be prepared properly

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Cheap shaders etc

livid haven Sep 20, 2017, 5:14 AM

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Reminds me that we had horrible performance issues in Smite for a while until we realized the problem was our damn trees.

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You could see between them enough that practically the whole "jungle" was still being rendered.

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Your framerate would steadily increase as you moved towards the enemy base, because more and more of the map was behind you, rather than having the entire map in front of your from when you spawned, and most of it not being occluded due to the trees not being thick enough (be it tree density or trunk thickness)

south ridge Sep 20, 2017, 5:16 AM

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A mesh chunk will be rendered if at least ONE pixel is visible

livid haven Sep 20, 2017, 5:16 AM

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Right.

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I don't recall what exactly we did.

south ridge Sep 20, 2017, 5:17 AM

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Which is bullshit sometimes btw

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Imagine you have two meshes that fit to eachother perfectly

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Now imagine that due to going away from world origin, there is one jittering pixel in it

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And you can see some of the level through that pixel

dire storm Sep 20, 2017, 5:18 AM

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Thanks for the feedback guys! 😃

south ridge Sep 20, 2017, 5:18 AM

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And suddenly it renders something 😄

livid haven Sep 20, 2017, 5:18 AM

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Yep.

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I guess there could be some logic behind requiring a minimum pixel count

south ridge Sep 20, 2017, 5:18 AM

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Not feasable to count it I guess

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I'm just gonna put additional sealing polygons in some places on some meshes to ensure that in our game tunnels are well sealed

dire storm Sep 20, 2017, 5:21 AM

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Sion you worked on Smite? Thats awesome if so.

livid haven Sep 20, 2017, 5:25 AM

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I did. Was actually the worst 2 years of my life. ^^()

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I was supposed to work on Tribes. I got bait and switched with Smite on day 1 of the job.

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And the rest was dealing with a toxic work environment and an overbearing, egotistical, micromanaging boss.

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But, it was experience with UE3 and a sufficiently big enough title that I was able to land a job working on UE4 itself through another company that was contracting for Epic.

dire storm Sep 20, 2017, 5:29 AM

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I hear ya. I was a nuke in the navy for 8.5 years. I'm well aware of terrible work environments. I'm completely new to game development but as a gamer for most of my life I would rather do something I enjoy. Getting a fresh start is nice. Just take the bad stuff and learn from it, builds character 😃 It could always be worse!

livid haven Sep 20, 2017, 5:29 AM

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Yeah, I could have been a woman at Hi-Rez. 😛

south ridge Sep 20, 2017, 5:29 AM

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Sounds cool @livid haven

dire storm Sep 20, 2017, 5:29 AM

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You could be 33 just starting off learning game dev. See, things could be worse.

livid haven Sep 20, 2017, 5:29 AM

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But, it is what it is. That's like 5 years ago now.

south ridge Sep 20, 2017, 5:30 AM

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You're a very notable member of this discord, I keep seeing you around in positive way all the time 😄

grave roost Sep 20, 2017, 5:30 AM

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whats up chat

dire storm Sep 20, 2017, 5:31 AM

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I've been dumping around 10-12 hours a day on crash course learning as fast as I can. There's so much stuff to learn!

grave roost Sep 20, 2017, 5:32 AM

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@dire storm if u need help i can on 1on1 bases

livid haven Sep 20, 2017, 5:33 AM

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@south ridge I try. In fact, I've been saying for well over an hour now that I'd stop this, go have a beer, and watch Made in Abyss. Yet I'm still here trying to help out because I can't let questions I can answer go unanswered. X|

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Was going to setup a Patreon soon, but I need to get a lot of other ducks in a row first, nevermind wrap up some big tasks on Fortnite that are causing me to pull allnighters.

grave roost Sep 20, 2017, 5:35 AM

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wat kinda games yall into?

livid haven Sep 20, 2017, 5:37 AM

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Currently avoiding the blackhole of spare time that is No Man's Sky and Subnautica.

dire storm Sep 20, 2017, 5:37 AM

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@grave roost Thanks man I'll def keep that in mind. Right now I have 800 hours of tutorial vidoes and the entirety of the UE4 learning to go through as well as working on a few basic udemy courses I picked up on the cheap to get my chops wet. The biggest issue I'm having is staying focused on really learning every bit of the foundation and what everything means. I catch myself daydreaming or mentally taking an idea and running off with game concepts.

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I like strategy games, mobas, jesus I should just say I like all games... except for horror games. Not a huge fan. Heroes of the Storm is my weakness. I will not discuss how many hours of my life I've thrown into that game but lets just say my account probably has a significant impact on avg hours played per player lol

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I'm interested in learning how to build relatively low poly city builder type games, rpgs. Right now I'm just doing the basics provided in tutorials. Figuring out why and how everything is done then building from there.

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How did yall get your start in game dev?