I use an finterp?
#ue4-general
light thunder
vale osprey
out put value that you set is your new rotation
yes, F is for floats and V is for vectors
light thunder
FInterpTo or FINterptoContstant
vale osprey
to Constant will have a constant speed of animation
regular one will go faster the larger is distance between Current and Target
vale cloud
(I hope @light thunder sends you one of those fancy pressure valves as a gift @vale osprey ๐ )
vale osprey
hehehe ๐
light thunder
A little cut off at the top and a bit spaghettfied but is this it?
what should I put for interp speed?
vale cloud
LOL now I can't stop imagining it executing and BOOOM!
light thunder
vale osprey
if you connect output of Set as input your current value will be the same as output during execution and it shoudnt
yeap
set speed to something like 10 and see how it works
light thunder
it jumps to the end and doesn't mvoe at all...hmmm
vale osprey
not completely wrong but sort of
light thunder
I'll be communicate while I wait in the car line
vale osprey
try changing speed to different values like 20 or 0.01
light thunder
i did ...it keeps going round and around brb
vale cloud
Too much pressure! ๐ heh ...er... ok, bad pun ๐
safe shoal
@fierce tulip ๐ฎ
๐
Anyone much of a graphics programmer here?
https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?141781-Filling-the-GBuffer-from-two-different-view-locations-with-a-stencil-mask&p=692205#post692205
light thunder
@safe shoal PM'ed you
@vale osprey I tried changing the different values but it is like going around and around, it's like it's reseting the previous LERP
vale osprey
can you screenshot your graph? maybe execution order is weird
light thunder
spice urchin
i want to see too. and i want to see when it works, i think this is fascinating problem to solve ๐
light thunder
What is the best way to record an animated gif to upload? I use FRAPS but there is probably a better tool (I use JING for my screenshots)
spice urchin
gyazo
vale osprey
put Curve Interp as input to your SetRelativeRotation
right now you connect output and I have suspicion that it re-evaluates Interp because of this
spice urchin
maybe don't use gyazo right now though, server borked
light thunder
odd things happening stand by
Pressure is zero, (valve is closed) but look at gauge....there seems to be no pattern, it's very wacky and will jump around, with no seemingly set intervals
vale osprey
have you connected CurveInterp variable as input to SetRelativeRotation?
vale osprey
try adding PrintString after Interp node and output what its showing
if numbers make sense - they roll from one value to another then issue is in rotation
vale osprey
nooo, not there
vale osprey
in the same execution from Tick
light thunder
yes, it is addming up
vale osprey
yeah
light thunder
it is counting each time and it stops at the A node (135) of the LERP
light thunder
weird...it stops, (when the valve is fully opened) at 318
vale osprey
because by default, float is 0, so when you lunch it starts from 0 degrees instead of A
light thunder
why does it keep going around and around....like when I pull back (which should lower it) it keeps moving it forward around
vale osprey
have you set default value?
light thunder
yes
vale osprey
so, does it start at 135 now?
light thunder
yep
but it doesn't end correctly
it should scale to 415 because of the interp
but it stops at 318 for some reason
and then it doesn't move back
vale osprey
hmm and Lerp is at 415 at this point?
or 410 - whichever value is maximum
try changing speed then, set it to 1
light thunder
I cna tell then the speed is wayyy to low
but that doesn't explain it not moving backwards at all
Okay i think I know what is happening
vale osprey
ohh wait, I'm an idiot
light thunder
there is some lag time based on the interp speed
vale osprey
you need to execure SetRelativeRotation on Tick too! ๐
otherwise this doesn't make any sense as Set.. is what updates rotation
why are you doing that cast btw?
light thunder
GENIUS
works PERFECTLY
The casting is because I have a Core Pump Panel BP, with all the components and static meshes of things that I don't need line tracing for
this was the first time I have done BP communication and Linetracing
vale osprey
why not make needle part of the same BP?
light thunder
So the way it is setup is, I have a Linetrace that triggers an event to open the valve, which calls the event on this Valve BP
because I am moving the valve i nand out of the world and I am also doing a render outline/material change
I wasn't sure if it would end up highlighting the needle too
light thunder
you can mention how you would do it, I'm always wanting to learn and when I go to 'refactor' I might change it that way
vale osprey
you don't have to animate in the same BP, could just send the value of the pressure into BP which contains needle and calculate animation there
light thunder
incidentally, how difficult will it be to make a Macro of all this...because I have like 7 more valves
vale osprey
exactly for this reason^
light thunder
so I'd make two macros I guess?
one at this valve BP and one on the Main Pump Panel BP (where the needle is)
vale osprey
no no, you can make a separate BP with the gauge itself
well, actually yes, you can do it as macro
light thunder
This way I can just drag the pump panel into the world and don't have to reposotion the gauges and the needles (my god, the needles)
vale osprey
true but gauge can be a child actor component
light thunder
I thought about that too, I might play with it
the tricky part is I don't know enough about inheritence
vale osprey
so it encapsulates all logic inside, works as separate self contained thing and at the sametime is always on the panel
light thunder
I might need to do something to just the pump panel itself but not affect the children, I have read a little about overrides but I'm still largerly ignorant
vale osprey
child actor component is a component, it's not class inheritance
it's literally "take this separate BP and pretend its part of parent BP"
like if you have a key chain and keys are separate object with their own logic
light thunder
so, I have it as the component there...what do I need to do to accomplish what you are describing?
vale osprey
so all visual parts of panel are in the same BP?
light thunder
yes
vale osprey
ahh ok
light thunder
the valves are out for now because of linetracing
vale osprey
then just move that animation logic into panel
vale osprey
and send pressure from valve to panel
yes, you can use the same event that changes pressure
light thunder
or cast from the panel BP to the Valve BP
vale osprey
or set variable directly - but it's not as clean as event
well, any of those should do
you will see which is better with time
vale cloud
"just send 500 PSI over a blueprint line and be done with it" ๐
light thunder
lol
I'll play around and be back with question but the progress I have made is awesome
vale cloud
๐ to @vale osprey and congrats to you too @light thunder for the progress made ๐
light thunder
Only question now is, do I have to cast back to get that information from the pump line?
LEFT - Valve BP RIGHT PumppanelCore BP
vale osprey
mmm I think you only need a reference to panel to send this event
you can add pressure as variable of event
like here I have a custom event:
and BreakableForceLimit is a variable
you can add such variable when you create your events
@vale cloud we should have finished it an hour ago ๐
light thunder
@vale osprey I I took a look at it....as far as I can tell, I have to do this with 3 BP's although it might be possible to due to.... right now I have the FirstPersonBP which linetraces and actually physically moves the valves...and it calls the Open/Close Event respectively.... this open/close event is run on the Valve BP and it caculates the math for that particularl lines pressure....then based on the math, it sends out an event with that pressure which is then run and can used that to animate the needle in the PumpPanelBp ...
Offhand, I COULD move all the math that is done on the Valve and just do it on the pump panel
but I'm not sure what is better, 3 interdepantly but mildly small BP's
or 2 moderately sized BP;s
vale osprey
Just animation math would be better
light thunder
so 3 simpler ones
vale osprey
yeah, simply because the way how your needle rotates is irrelevant to valves
so it would "pack" logic of the needle in a place where needle is moved
this is just good practice in programming to separate things from each other and let them do their own thing
light thunder
So literally take all of that and move it to the PumpPanelBP (where needle is) and call the event, which has an input node of Preconnect2PSI
vale osprey
it makes it easier later when you refactor code and maybe want to send different pressures from different valves to different panel and etc
exactly
light thunder
Yeah, I'm going to have to do this for 8 more valves and 10 more gauges
Hopefully I can collapse some of this into a macro but I've never used those before
vale osprey
yeah will be easier then, you can make a function or a macro which does the same math for different needles
just provide a needle, max pressure, min and max rotation as parametes to it
the you can always change it in a single place and get it applied to all needles
light thunder
ah okay, so macros ARE avaible to all BP's right?
vale osprey
there is a thing called library
function library and macro library
you can use them between different BPs, with some limitation that base class of BPs should be similar
for example macro library for Actor Components:
I can use those three macros in any BP component which is inherited from Actor Component - basically all components
light thunder
Do I have to add it to the library or is it done based on the BP type?
vale osprey
you create library yourselve and decide on class when you make it:
this is necessary for macros only
function library doesn't depend on any class
light thunder
Hmm @vale osprey i still need to figure out where I putting my master pressure variable... Right now it's just the throttle widget (or will be, once I get it working). Right now the valve BP casts to the master pressure BP to get the master pressure variable, then does the math to determine what the valve's psi is, this psi is sent as an input node on an event which is called on the pump panel BP (where the needle is then animated)... How would you handle the throttle/master pressure?
vale osprey
if you have just a single BP in you level where master pressure is calculated, then you can set referece to it in other BPs from the level itself
actually if you have several you can do it too
add variable of the BP class reference that holds data, make it editable and then when you place BP in the level you can set this reference to approriate actor in the level
light thunder
So you mean just use the level blueprint as a bridge using the actual instances of the BP actors, instead of the BPs themselves?
vale osprey
you don't even need level BP for this
GroundDeformationCapture is an actor in the level
Tracking Target is another actor in the level
it's just a variable
of Actor Reference
light thunder
@vale osprey the only potential downside to this referencing of instances is that it can't be used when you are creating new objects, like a projectile or something, as they don't exist in the world at runtime, they can't be reference from the world ?
silent pecan
Howdy folks!
I'm just starting out with Unreal 4 engine. I've got access to Lynda.com for the "essentials" training course, and am aware of the loads of content on the Unreal channel and Learn pages which I can learn from also..
I'm just wondering - what is YOUR favourite "getting started" tutorial or series for UE4? Thank you!
mint sequoia
I have a question about damage types in UE4 and the event system etc they already have in place. When would I want to use that as opposed to making my own system? It's probably overly convoluted for simpler games?
gentle solstice
There's a bug in the Black Jack example. From time to time, it counts down when you draw a card
fallow cliff
@silent pecan you might wanna start reading the Getting Started sections on https://docs.unrealengine.com to familiarize yourself with the basic concepts and terminology, then proceed to watching videos.
grim juniper
I don't know if this is a bug with UE4 or what, but I've found that if you're creating a spline mesh component (like that from the "Using Splines & Spline Components" Livestream) raycasts won't collide with that mesh if you leave the Add Spline Mesh Component's Collision Presets on No Collision and use a Set Collision Enabled node set to Collision Enabled (Query and Physics)
However raycasts will detect the mesh if you set collision to Block All in the Add Spline Mesh Component which means you can't use the Set Collision Enabled node to turn the collision on and off to prevent editor lag like shown in the tutorial without raycasts not working with it.
If it matters, I'm using 4.15.1
vale osprey
@light thunder correct, this is for static objects. Like when you know that placement of objects is predefined.
spare topaz
how do I disable menuanchor dismiss onclick? it seems like there is no way to prevent it closing if I click something else than an input box
light thunder
Anyone advise why my 3D widget is showing in at play but not in the editor viewport? (I can see the widget image in it's own BP viewport, but not the world viewport)
Totally stumped here
render settings
foggy patrol
daring river
Hey there ๐
What is the best way to add a video as a background to a camera?
I'm trying to use the unreal engine for realtime rendering for vfx and therefore I need to do some compositing with real life footage
Would be great if it works with the sequencer
light thunder
Event Sent Fires - (both have the interface in the class settings)
Event never prints received, even though it has the interface in class settings...what step did I miss? this isn't working
torpid hedge
how can i make ramas victory plugin compatible for 4.15? says it's wrong version. i downloaded the last one
vale osprey
@light thunder your event dispatcher AnimateNeedle needs a reference to whom you send this event connected to Target
By default you send it to the same BP where you calling
light thunder
@Bored Good morning! I noticed in my First Player BP, events work and the target says USING
vale osprey
It says This there
light thunder
I thought I just sent it out to everyone who has the interface in their class settings?
vale osprey
No no
You have to do this manually
I don't use event much, this is my understanding of how it works
light thunder
so the target is Pump Interface, is that the right direction?
vale osprey
Yeap
light thunder
Wait, which one of those pictures is wrong?
light thunder
oh i needs to be a message and not a call?
trying to test it
The whole point of using the interface was to avoid having to cast to get references to objects
No idea why this isn't working @vale osprey
vale osprey
so it was Interface call and not Event?
ohh, my bad then ๐
you need to provide reference anyway
light thunder
yeah, so I'm just testing, sending from the Valve BP to the BP where the needle is
I setup the animation BP there (at Needle BP ) and used an interface call to send the event, but it was never received on the needle BP
vale osprey
yeap, because it needs reference too
vale osprey
just add PanelRef variable in your valve BP and make it editable
assign it in the level to instance of your panel
many different way, you can find by tag, or find by class and check name
the simples is to add Panel actor reference variable and set it manually in level itself
as I showed you yesterday with GroundDeformationCapture actor
light thunder
what is the type of variable for the panel reference? jsut actor reference?
vale osprey
no, it's "Panel" or how you named your BP class
light thunder
ah ok
upper heart
is there anything special I have to do to get OnSystemFinished to be called for a PS?
mine isn't getting hit for some reason
light thunder
Still not workingk, what did I do wrong?
vale osprey
did you set it's value in editor?
vale osprey
no, that won't work
light thunder
not allowed to change it
vale osprey
set it on the instance of the valve in the level itself
light thunder
does it matter which BP I used to set it? I was going to use BeginPlay
vale osprey
You have valve placed in the level, right?
vale osprey
Make your reference variable Editable in the Valve BP
Then when you select instance of the Valve in the level you will see this variable in details panel on the right
vale osprey
No not Level BP the level itself
vale cloud
afternoon ๐ you a fireman, @light thunder ? ๐
vale osprey
Level BP is not necessary if you have both Valve and Panel placed somewhere in level
No problem
light thunder
Now, if I move the valve, delete it, and add it back, I will always have to specify that in the details or will it just remember and throw an error of the panel doesn't exist in the world?
vale osprey
You will have to set it again
To automate this process you have to find panel dynamically
Like add a tag to the panel, then when you want to send the message do a test IsValid(panelRef)
If valid just execute function if not then FindActorByTag and cast it into PanelBP
upper heart
hmm I see, so OnSystemFinished isn't going to work on a dedicated server
vale osprey
Save it back into reference variable
upper heart
// Let them die quickly on a dedicated server
if (IsNetMode(NM_DedicatedServer) && (GetRemoteRole() == ROLE_None || bNetTemporary))
{
SetLifeSpan(0.2f);
}
// Set Notification Delegate
if (ParticleSystemComponent)
{
ParticleSystemComponent->OnSystemFinished.AddUniqueDynamic(this, &AEmitter::OnParticleSystemFinished);
bCurrentlyActive = ParticleSystemComponent->bAutoActivate;
}```@upper heart I think normally you don't do anything with particles over the network
light thunder
Why is the Event Animate not working then, it's not being pulled up in context menu on Pump Panel BP
vale osprey
Have you defined it in the PanelBP?
light thunder
um, how?
vale osprey
Well if this is interface call then you need to implement it in the Panel BP
vale osprey
Functions that don't return values are shown as events
light thunder
and ones that do?
vale osprey
As functions
light thunder
You are right about it, those events come up except the ones that have values (this again is in BP)
vale cloud
don't know if I'll be causing more confusion than help, but if you had to cast, to access events from the casted object you drag from the "As [casted] do" output pin, and that will give you access
light thunder
It only lets me CALL it but i need to be able to receive it
@vale cloud I'm using casts but I'm refactoring my blueprints so there is only one direction of flow, right now it works but it is jumping all over the place
vale osprey
If you want to use interface and you don't see interface events/functions on the left side
Add some dummy output to your interface function
Just some book variable
vale osprey
You don't have to do anything with it, but after this if you remove interface and then add it back you will see your interface functions on the left panel
Wait, but it's there!
vale osprey
You don't need to, double click on it and write your implementation
I'll be online later
Good luck with it
light thunder
Here is the Valve BP where it sends it out
Okay, thanks!
Yeah, the event just WON'T Come up if it has anykind of input/output
EDIT: UPDATE - I have NO idea why it is working now....the animate event would never come up....but my interface test message (with string variable input) did work....so I literally just changed that string to the float I needed and piped the connections in and it works....wtf, ghost in the machine
green spear
How do you prevent physics bodies from stretching from each other?
dusky chasm
hi, could someone help me with a basic point & click movement please?
I am trying to copy the top to down point&click control for the character to my game, but for some reason it doesn't work at all.
My character inherits from ACharacter, i have added a nav mesh to my level, disabled physics, and added this to my player controller:
NavSys->SimpleMoveToLocation(this, DestLocation);
DestLocation is a valid position but the character just won't move.
I've also tried this through blueprints and had the same result.
Is there something that I need to set up in my character/controller/navsystem to make it work?
jaunty folio
hey someone have some knowelse with terrain stuff ? landscape blending node ?
spice urchin
@jaunty folio yup, what's the problem?
stiff marlin
Got a question for anyone using source control in UE. What service do you guys use for the remote SVN server? The most prominent I've seen is Assembla but was wondering if there were better options.
hybrid scroll
Assembla is super expensive.
@stiff marlin
I was using it to host perforce, now they changed their pricing model to be even higher.
Again, I'm using perforce, and I dont know SVN, but I found out, the cheapest solution is to simply rent a VPS and set up a SC server there manually.
Way cheaper, faster and you have more control.
Literaly zero knowledge about linux / servers is required, I googled everything and was done in probably around 1h
fierce tulip
perforce wise, look at digital ocean
stiff marlin
The SVN I want to use is Tortoise. Had good experiences with it in the past and now I just need a server.
fierce tulip
though might also work with git/svn dunno
stiff marlin
And yeah, I know Assembla is super expensive, which is why I want to avoid it if possible.
@hybrid scroll do you have a preferred VPS solution?
hybrid scroll
I personally use home.pl. thats a polish, local for me company that I rent my web hosting servers from, but know people are using Digital Ocean, as @fierce tulip said.
stiff marlin
I'll take a look at digital ocean and see if it works with SVN
fierce tulip
seems to work
stiff marlin
I may go ahead and use Perforce, not sure, but thanks for the advice, guys.
fierce tulip
@stiff marlin https://m.do.co/c/15e4b890eaa5
referall, will net you 10 dollar in credit
stiff marlin
Oh thanks, I appreciate that.
fierce tulip
well, it helps me as well if you ever pay X money I might get some win as well
so its all good
it was entirely selfish XD
stiff marlin
in any case, it helps. ๐
narrow pond
hello
I've got what's hopefully a simple question. I've been modifying the top down project and it works great.
I moved a bunch of files around, cleaned up redirectors and it works fine in PIE. But if I run with -game, my camera spawns inside the character and my input stops working.
fossil socket
might want to check out vultr too, we get much better performance from them for about the same price
we used to have our game servers on DO, but kept maxing out the CPU with the smaller instance types
light thunder
Can anyone explain why my 3d widgets won't ever render in the editor window, only at runtime?
halcyon marsh
How can i remove the comma from a float please
i transform it to an int but show me the same
quartz patrol
@halcyon marsh Its pretty simple you should use To Text node
and hit little triangle and there is Use Grouping
quartz patrol
It converts your data into text
halcyon marsh
because in every langage when you transform flaot to string
to int*
it renderer it to a sring ^^
int*
daring river
Hey there ๐
What is the best way to add a video as a background to a camera?
I'm trying to use the unreal engine for realtime rendering for vfx and therefore I need to do some compositing with real life footage
Would be great if it works with the sequencer
quartz patrol
As i remember unreal uses video as background in sequencer, they show this on the Stream where there is cars moving
@daring river https://www.twitch.tv/videos/125625961 From 2H30Min there is Shots in Sequencer
daring river
@quartz patrol thanks :)
Now the question is, how they did it ๐
quartz patrol
@daring river xD its much more complex i think
daring river
yeah, I'm afraid it is
quartz patrol
But i think if u have some videos, you can use them in sequencer
unreal sonnet
If I delete my project and empty the recycle bin... but then a week later I want to look at it again, am I completely screwed? Even if I have the cooked, packaged project still?
Because I was thinking of taking my game jam entry and trying to remake it with only C++ as a practice exercise.
daring river
@quartz patrol but how? :D
I tried it, but didn't find a solution other than using a video texture on an object in the scene, which kinda sucks
quartz patrol
Umm sorry, dont tryed it before, hard to say
@daring river Maybe this will help https://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/INT/Engine/Sequencer/Overview/
daring river
I've already looked into the docs, but didn't find antything helpful
daring river
I hope so ๐
plush yew
Can i help? Ar u talking about sequencer @daring river
daring river
Yeah, I am ๐
plush yew
Sequencer is super ez
daring river
What is the best way to add a video as a background to a camera?
I'm trying to use the unreal engine for realtime rendering for vfx and therefore I need to do some compositing with real life footage
It would be enough to just be able to see it. It doesn't have to be in the render
plush yew
Ar u gonna work with skeletal meshes or "rigs"
Im on mobile so i cant send u a link but if u go in youtube and search unreal engine 4 level sequencer there is a playlist that helps u alot
Like camera movement and player modela
daring river
let me explain my situation:
I shot a video in real life, tracked the camera movement of that video and exported the animated camera to unreal engine.
I now wan't to add an object in the unreal engine to that real life footage and for that it would be handy to be able to see the final result (virtual + real life footage) within one view.
daring river
I gues there is no tutorial for that? ๐
daring river
I want to use the unreal engine as a realtime renderer for my vfx/film pipeline
plush yew
I dont think this is the right program , i use unreal to make games so i rly cant help u
acoustic heath
Anyone know any good plugins or resources specifically for UE4? I'm putting together a list but I mostly roll my own or look at example snippets for ideas instead of pulling in stuff so I figured I'd ask around.
pallid flint
What kinda thingies u looking ofr @acoustic heath
acoustic heath
Nifty things that people can pull into their project, like free animation packs ready to import into UE4 or freely available plugins for things like FMOD integration @pallid flint
acoustic heath
Sounds nifty haha
kindred viper
nice
pallid flint
but i have a error/bug ๐ฆ that is apart of the Browser Code
The website is stuck off center
and doesnt actually size too the container
yet it gives the viewport size from the container
at least mine does
kindred viper
are you using a 4k monitor?
pallid flint
kindred viper
I only ask because everything messes up with a 4K monitor and viewport stuff for me
kindred viper
it thinks my desktop is 1704x920 when its full 4K HD res
so it never scales anything viewport based above that
not tested in recent version though. will test the new enablehighdpi stuff
has it flipped it ? maybe its returning its like 900x600?
acoustic heath
@pallid flint FMOD Studio is a middleware that lets you do a lot of runtime audio effects magic. They've got their own tool for authoring that stuff and supposedly you can integrate it w/ UE4 pretty easily w/ their plugin https://github.com/fmod/ue4integration
pallid flint
koo
i`m about to make a Unreal Engine 4 OAuth/User System Plugin I think.
really bored
untill i can get some help with the bug on we browsers
I really am bored.
fossil socket
having a look at your twitch plugin, would be nice if it followed this: https://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/INT/Programming/Development/CodingStandard/
and you don't need to include the Intermediate directory in your git repo
FString fs(cstr.c_str());```
this seems... weird
ruby aspen
acoustic heath
@pallid flint Here's that list I was talking about https://github.com/terrehbyte/awesome-ue4
I'll probably keep adding to it as time goes on
wild dagger
Will UE4 Editor use as many cores as i have? Or is it limited?
narrow pond
Hey guys. I'm running into a weird issue where occasionally (maybe after renaming blueprints?) running with -game instead of with -debug (PIE), my camera will spawn inside my character and I have no control. So it's like my player controller is bad. Last time I got this I had to force sync my whole project. My teammate's getting this as well. Deleting his Intermediate folder solved it for him, but it's not for me. I've never seen this before when working on other projects. Any ideas?
I'm guessing this is related:
[2017.04.09-00.56.57:143][ 0]LogLinker:Warning: CreateExport: Failed to load Parent for BlueprintGeneratedClass /Game/Character/HumanCharacter/HumanCharacter.HumanCharacter_C
fallow cliff
@eager lotus the main work will happen on the Main thread and the Render thread, but it creates worker threads (number of cores minus three or so) that it will parcel out work items to
narrow pond
no ideas?
It's like it's failing to find any of my blueprints.
DebugGame_Editor with -game
-debug is totally fine
ornate rivet
Will UE4 Editor use as many cores as i have? Or is it limited?
Yesterday I tried to load really huge streamed map and it occupied 100% of my 6c/12t i7-5820.
If I had no decent CPU today, I'd go for 8c Ryzens.
pallid flint
@acoustic heath ๐ฎ Wanna put the TwitchPlugin on there? ๐
floral heart
Ryzen or i7. Never an FX.
narrow pond
I think deleting the Saved folder fixed it btw.
ornate rivet
I wonder how 7700K performs in compiling , compared to expensive i7's and Ryzens
acoustic heath
@pallid flint Clean up your GitHub repo and we'll call it good~ ;P Here's a .gitignore you can use to keep cruft out of the repo
https://github.com/github/gitignore/blob/master/UnrealEngine.gitignore
floral heart
@ornate rivet 4 cores @ 4.5ghz vs. 6/8 cores @ 3.6ghz.
There's a 22-core Xeon out there if your wallet is fat. ๐
pallid flint
Yo Guys whatcha think I should do? Give my Plugin Away for Free or Should I sell it? https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?141809-TwitchPlugin-Everything-you-need-for-Twitch-in-UE4-well-Almost!
hollow plinth
Do you guys have a solution for assets that keep on re-appearing after deletion or move? It's OK for a bit but when you start having a lot of assets in can get quite confusing quite quickly.
hoary wadi
@hollow plinth Read this: https://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/INT/Engine/Basics/Redirectors/
Right Click in the folder the assets are in and click "Fixup redirectors". It also helps to do it in the root folder of your project.
fallen urchin
Hey does anyone knows the link of collision filtering? I've a condition where I want my object to collide on terrain. But not with player. I want behaviour something like 'In unity 3d when you set the ontriiger collision on' my actor should not behave in as a physics collision , but it should fire on overlap actor function
pallid flint
chews on @plush yew
plush yew
๐ @pallid flint go work on your plugin!
not sure what @fallen urchin needs though. Filter the class on hit / overlap event?
pallid flint
@.@ I`m not sure what else to add
@.@
Was thinking of a Event System.
So like Trigger Event, Then have a Async Blueprint Node Listen for Length of Time, to the Commands/Choices broken down in Enum or something.
At the end finish, and spit out what was selected
I wanna create a game with my plugin
but now since i made it
completely stumped on what to make.
cant do art, animations, or modelling so i`m basicly screwed on everything else LoLz
fallen urchin
Overlap events can solve my purpose @plush yew . I want my blocks not to simulate physics collision behaviour when they touch player.
pallid flint
ok screw it @plush yew im going to write a new UE4 Login Plugin :| Going to call it "User System" or something whatcha think? Ill be done within the next 2-3 hours give or take.
fallen urchin
I'm looking forward to it @pallid flint :)
pallid flint
XD Really?
plush yew
depends on where or how you login ๐
pallid flint
hmm
Well I was thinking
URL & BuildKey associated in the Settings Panel
Admin Panel on the Website, should be accessible via the Plugin
so you never have to leave your Editor right?
Everytime you make a build, assign a new Build Key to the Build, and add the buildkey to the database
should be automatic this way no one can fuck up and forget a build key
plush yew
sounds like a security nightmare lel
pallid flint
Have the options to Ban a Key, Force Key Update, Generate Keys
Naa acl system with a normal basic sha256 double salted passwords
Scope based oAuth for Login
Prolly have to do the Widget Username/Password
Could also addin OAuth Login for the Game.
I just gotta wait till they fix the WebBrowser
everycall give a jwt and auth back to validate information
plush yew
except if you send in the fix by yourself
pallid flint
prolly take me 40mins or so for the WebService
plush yew
nah i mean until they fix the browser
pallid flint
Oh i`m just waiting for it.
Prolly going to rewrite the whole browser system
and implement my own XD
plush yew
thats probably the best ๐
pallid flint
but yea i`m bored. XD trying to figure out what to do.
Keep seeing the UE4 Login Plugin and i`m like .......
<.<
fallen urchin
Can't you just use sqllite plugin of unreal engine for database? What kind of user authentication security features you are thinking. What is a build key? This key is what you need to sign into? @pallid flint
silent pecan
Howdy folks!
So I've just started with the Unreal documentation and working my way through the basics.
I'm just practicing buliding some environments, and I wondered if I can swap out an existing actor with another some how? I may just have my lingo wrong, but I can't find anything applicable from the documentation or in searching the Goog's.
e.g. I am using Starter Content, I've placed down a regular wall. I want a windowed wall there now, can I just "swap" out the part? Like select the object in the viewport, and choose a replacement actor?
All good I just found it! I missed it the first time around. Right click on Actor -> Replace Selected Actors with -> choose actor
pallid flint
@fallen urchin no it would be for say, you want to login for a closed beta? Maybe a update was released, you obviously dont want people using the older version. Notifying them, and refusing to Launch the game past the main menu, giving them a download link or whatever to download the newest version. Build key would associate to each build of the game, this way for instance you gave out a development build. Then you gave out abuncha keys associated too the DevBranch of builds, anyone who uses a key can use the devbranch, then you are done with testing you close the devbranch and make all the keys worthless. That Sorta reasoning behind it.
Build has a Key, User can register with or without a key depending on the branch/build key their client has. ;x
@fallen urchin SQLI would be more for like game info, stuff that can be handled just on the server itself. Not for Global information, things that have to pass outside of a single server.
dusky chasm
hi, could someone help me with a basic point & click movement please?
I am trying to copy the top to down point&click control for the character to my game, but for some reason it doesn't work at all.
My character inherits from ACharacter, i have added a nav mesh to my level, disabled physics, and added this to my player controller:
NavSys->SimpleMoveToLocation(this, DestLocation);
DestLocation is a valid position but the character just won't move.
I've also tried this through blueprints and had the same result.
Is there something that I need to set up in my character/controller/navsystem to make it work?
grizzled mountain
Hey! I made a quicktip on how to create and use a Houdini Engine asset to create 3d Text in unreal. (If you are already using a blueprint for this, you could use the technique to create new characters) Check it out: https://vimeo.com/212456354
wild cloud
Hey guys! Any here is using VLC player plugin?
kindred viper
gmpreussner is but then he helped make it.
plush yew
@grizzled mountain Cool stuff
pallid flint
Submitted to the Marketplace: https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?141926-TwitchPlugin-Everything-you-need-for-Twitch-in-UE4-well-Almost!
If anyone wants to Test it let me know i`ll drop ya a Zip file with the Plugin โค
last loom
not sure where to ask this, but I've got a multiplayer project in version 4.12, and I recently dowloaded (yet to install) the github repository for UE 2.13 with HairWorks and Flex pre-compiled into it..... just curious if anyone knows how painful the process of transferring my current project over to this other version of the engine might be?
it's all in blueprints, and this is the first time I used github for anything so just nervous ๐
unborn matrix
getting a lot of errors like this in the packaging stage:
LogLinker:Error: REINST_KnightCharacter_C_96 has an inappropriate outermost, it was probably saved with a deprecated outer (file: F:/Wow/UploadedBuilds/Content/VirtualRealityBP/KnightCharacter.uasset)
fiery harbor
@last loom it won't be painful at all
last loom
really? I feel like someone who's been through a traumatic breakup (engine crashing bugs) and is tentative to try dating again (fuxing w the engine) ๐
fiery harbor
@unborn matrix just resave that blueprint
unborn matrix
I have but it's still bringing up errors
I've re built from source to try and fix it but it doesnt help
fiery harbor
@last loom everything will just continue to work same like before, you might get crashes related to nvidias stuff but that's fine I guess
@unborn matrix you should only need to resave the blueprints where it complains
so make sure you modify them before saving so that it actually saves something
unborn matrix
so like make a new variable/function/something to save
fiery harbor
yeah
last loom
When I install the github version, should I remove the current UE version or will it just show up as a separate option like a different version # on the epic launcher?
unborn matrix
@fiery harbor I did that, saved it, and re opened it. Didnt change anything
last loom
And then just load that version and open the project file from it? Not sure how exactly to transfer my project as it's from a seperate version too, been a while since I updated versions and doing this simultaneously seems like a bad idea lol
unborn matrix
I'm also getting this error when packaging not sure if relevant or not:
LogOutputDevice:Error: === Handled ensure: ===
LogOutputDevice:Error: Ensure condition failed: false [File:D:\Build++UE4+Release->4.15+Compile\Sync\Engine\Source\Runtime\Engine\Private\Components\SceneComponent.cpp][Line: 1692]
LogOutputDevice:Error: Template Mismatch during attachment. Attaching instanced component to template component. Parent 'StaticMeshComponent0' Self 'StaticMeshComponent0'
fiery harbor
@last loom don't need to remove anything, keep it
last loom
thanks for your help!
fiery harbor
@last loom only need to right click the uproject file and select switch engine version
last loom
niiice ๐
fiery harbor
@unborn matrix what do you mean with reopened?
unborn matrix
the whole project
fiery harbor
so you get the issue on project startup too?
unborn matrix
Yes.
fiery harbor
for me these issues were always fixed after reasaving the asset
fiery harbor
what engine version?
unborn matrix
4.15.1
fiery harbor
strange
unborn matrix
LogOutputDevice:Error: Ensure condition failed: false [File:D:\Build\++UE4+Release-4.15+Compile\Sync\Engine\Source\Runtime\Engine\Private\Components\SceneComponent.cpp] [Line: 1692]
LogOutputDevice:Error: Template Mismatch during attachment. Attaching instanced component to template component. Parent 'StaticMeshComponent0' Self 'StaticMeshComponent0'
That one is the really annoying one
dawn linden
Is there any obvious reason to prefer using components or actors for character-held weapons?
quiet falcon
Anyone Understand sequencer?
having trouble rendering out a video
Straight Black screen comes out
unborn matrix
@fiery harbor It fixed itself somehow?
vale osprey
@dawn linden my only concern with using actors (assuming child actor component) would be synchronization of their movement
It can lag by one frame
dawn linden
@vale osprey Interesting, didn't know that. Do you know why?
Something to do with ticking order?
vale osprey
Yeah, if you add a skeletal mesh into the mix it gets even worse
BlackFox was adding control panel of the train like that and had to do some workarounds to sync it correctly, don't remember if it worked at the end
dawn linden
Hmm okay. Shouldn't matter for this as it's just a rough demo project, but worth knowing for the future.
vale osprey
There are some hidden issues too, you can get visual mesh synced but collision will lag
So it just need vigorous testing
steady sequoia
Is anyone here familiar with patching for the PS4?
river trellis
Hello - I am seeking some advice. I am currently working on a scene at home in UE4 and I need to take it to my univerisy for the degree show. I am working in version 4.10 and the uni has 4.12. Will the change in versions have an effect on my scene? cheers
onyx pewter
I can't tell you for sure, but it'll probably work fine.
It would most likely be more problems if the versions were reversed.
It's usually easier to convert to a newer version than to an older
But yea, I'm not sure.
But couldn't you try it yourself at home first?
But make sure to do a backup of the project first
@river trellis
cursive dirge
@dawn linden having actor is cleaner design as it can be treated as completely isolated object, also you can drop it and other players can pick it up etc
do note that I've never done any shooter on unreal, just saying that from design point of view
if you don't need to pick up weapons at all, and have preset gun setup, then components would make a lot more sense
as it's always going to be part of that actor no matter what
dawn linden
Yep that makes sense. I went with actor as it seemed more flexible.
Only real downside is that it's uglier to configure default setups as you say, since you have to use child actor components.
safe shoal
I used Components for Weapons personally, but that's primarily for reduced bandwidth and cost. In an RTS game that stuff starts to matter
Sub-Components like meshes are spawned as additional children of the owning actor, I haven't really lost any flexibility so far ๐
If anything it made my life easier
fiery harbor
if you need features of actors, use actors, if you are fine with components, use components since its cheaper
for example only actors can have timelines I think
last loom
^ pro tip
What's the best (smallest file size) to manually back up a project?
Like just zip up the whole project folder? I tried just copying the project file but that didn't work :[
beat way*
best* way :[
river trellis
@onyx pewter Thanks for the advice. I'll try it at home. ๐
last loom
@vale osprey @dawn linden I solved the problem with my multiple skeletal mesh components and a master pose component node causing that lag (assuming same issue) by turning off unreal engine's lag-compensation mechanism entirely D: one day I might build my own or find a workaround to make it work properly, but for now, everything is smooth and AFAIK, this means less processing is done right? So that's good... it doesn't look janky yet when I play with 3 clients on the same computer, but that's not a real gauge to test...
it's a checkbox on the movement component I believe, not at my desktop rn
Also I'm using actor components for my in-hand items and I destroy/spawn when dropping the item so that I can keep all the "interact" functionality on the "world actor" and keep the combat/use stuff and a different hand model on the "hand actor" hope that helps ๐
^ probably bad design
stoic moth
Hello i have a rigging problem with my bones in 3ds max, it seams the axis are messing up from time to time (at one point its certain it will happen to me) so how can i reset the bone so that when i rotate it, it does not skew my mesh and itself ?
helping video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MQFb7WQ0fk
so far Martinez from this blames it on improper transforms applied to the bone but that bone from the video was created with the bone tools 'connect bones' and still it misbehaves ๐ข http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php?t-495669.html
zinc bison
Has anyone else had trouble with "write achievement"? It works ONCE then seems to just do nothing
Is there something I gotta do between writes?
stoic moth
Found the fix and made a video https://youtu.be/0M-FWyfobQs any other tips are welcomed
vale osprey
@last loom what you don't use CMC at all?
last loom
CMC?
:x
oh
right yeah
I use the movement component
I just turn off the smooth replicate movement
the thing that does some interpolation between where you are and where it thinks you are on the server - it doesn't sync up properly with attached skeletal meshes afai can tell
and the smoothing looked bad to me before, too - when I turned it off, yeah, it's more of a choppy look to lag, but it feels more accurate to me
looks better I think :x
vale osprey
I see, the lag happens in single player too, in my case there are no character component and root body is simulating physics. There are some workarounds like having animation only in local space
last loom
realllly? yeah if you're in singleplayer, that smooth replicated movement could totally be checked off , see if that helps?
you mean there's no movement component?
craggy charm
What's kinetimatics? The google's definition or it's general definition gives me no idea about it - "The study of motion without reference of forces which cause motion"
vale osprey
@craggy charm in gamedev it's usually ment as a body which is moving or animated but not by means of physics
craggy charm
Thanks! What's the meaning of it outside gamedev?
vale osprey
study of the movement of the objects
craggy charm
how do you study movement of motion without studying of forces which cause motion?
vale osprey
vale osprey
or you mean how does this apply to non physics bodies in gamedev?
normally it means that you have some other logic driving their movement, for example inverse kinematics or other type of procedural animation
or you have your own calculation which can be using physics formulas but not using physics middleware like PhysX
craggy charm
Thanks
paper maple
Hey guys, not sure if this is the right spot to ask, but here goes. I've started playing around with UE some (no real goal atm) and am trying to get somethng pretty going. The idea is to make essentially an sfx, like a distorting wave. Think the effect you see in movies/games/wherever when a large xplosion creates a wall of compressed air moving rapidly outwards. Except I was thinking it going in a ring outwards from a point (not a sphere). My guess is I need at least to use a particle system somewhere in there. The issue is I'm not sure what to google for. Anyone can point me in the right direction of research? (this is also a crosspost from the general gamedev server)
kindred viper
well... thats a pretty tricky thing to start on.
paper maple
I've been getting that impression, yes.
fierce tulip
if you can scale the ring in blueprint thats fine too
cascade does come with some nice options
but the main refraction is just from the material
west fulcrum
working with reflection probes makes unreal dead. am I only one? 4.15.1
paper maple
so it was that after all. I wasn't suure if I should be googling for using shaders for this (as I probably would in Unity). Guess I'll keep digging in that direction then. Thanks.
keen birch
Anything shaders in Unity is material editor in UE4 @paper maple
(With the very rare exception here and there, of course)
paper maple
so it would seem. Much appreciated
tame token
Hi All .......Does anyone know how to make somthing like the mapping for Fall out shelter I love the way it is made
floral heart
It's basically tiles, no? Pretty similar to the ant farm from X-Com: Enemy Unknown. Though, come to think of it, X:EU didn't have elevators...
supple idol
kind of curious to know what is causing these dots on my light maps. would any of you guys know?
unborn matrix
What's going on here? It's just in the folder view and no where else
halcyon marsh
Hey guys
i have a question
do remove from parent for widget
restart all the Widget UI ?
someone tell me no but when i put a print string in the construct event
it prints everytime i remove it from the parent
plush yew
hey people
Got a feature request for the ability to change "Skip Assigning Gamepad to Player 1" option at runtime (basically option to have either one player use keyboard and second player use gamepad1, or have only player use the gamepad 1)
If anyone thinks it's something they want, please upvote
https://issues.unrealengine.com/issue/UE-43841
valid oar
tawdry quail
What would be the best video format for UE4?
we are trying with mpeg 4 but when it comes to many fps the engine can't handle the load
languid shard
@valid oar oh wow that's awesome ๐ฎ
cursive dirge
@valid oar that's great, people have been waiting for that ๐
last loom
@halcyon marsh yeah remove parent keeps the UI variables and such in memory, it's only removed from the viewport.
idk how to clear it from memory entirely yet ๐
lost orchid
Once you remove from parent and clear all the references, garbage collector will take care of it eventually, as far as I know @last loom
last loom
^ ah so if you don't make a reference to the UI, it'll get cleared from memory eventually? Good to know...
lost orchid
as far as i know, yes, you can actually test it using debug filter in the widget, after couple seconds the widget reference will not be in the debug list after you remove it
dim arch
Hi guys when I alt drag a SM actor in the scene to clone it it creates an actor but doesn't add the mesh so I get an empty actor. When I try to assign a mesh it won't drop into the slot, so basically I can't. Duplicate an object
last loom
ah yes, collapsing and such, that works too
dim arch
Ok seems kike if you make a directory which contains any special characters such as [ it won't be able to duplicate assets
golden oasis
Hi everyone, need some help! I cannot build light anymore, have no idea why that's happening. I press "Build Light", it shows "Building lightning 0%" for a few minutes - and nothing, it still shows "Lightning needs to be rebuit"... I even created a new level and copied all the contents to this new one, but no effect - it's still not working...
craggy nymph
I've seen that happening when there are two actors in the level with the same name. Each actor needs a unique name for the build process to work. Check the outliner and rename actors when needed.
last loom
It can take a lot longer than a few minutes
did you check what quality lighting build you're doing?
you can go from production quality to low quality with the drop-down menu under build
and also the first few percentages tend to take longer, while the end is faster
it takes a long time sometimes before the 1st % shows, then it starts moving
craggy nymph
Also, check the swarm agent for progress and possible error messages.
golden oasis
@craggy nymph Thanks! Actually it were indeed duplicated actors in the level. Fixed now! ๐
craggy nymph
๐
pallid compass
How do i add rotation to a object, to just rotate the object and not move it
Like a stationary gun
pallid compass
wtf.. my event ticks wont fire at all :/
Not even my level blueprint is ticking errr?
My custom gamemode
is not letting bluepritns tick
anyone got any idea why
unborn matrix
@pallid compass have you set your default game mode to your custom game mode
pallid compass
yes
it freezing all ticking
I have not changed any settings in it apart from custom game mode to custom pawn
nvm fixed
Erm why cant i move my pawn with add movement input?
golden oasis
have you added MovementComponent?
pallid compass
Its alright i fixed it
didnt realise u cant use movement input
has to be umm
addactorlocaloffset
Whys it so hard tto make it so you fly the way your mouse points
You know like gun aiming?
unborn matrix
anyone know how to fix "has an inappropriate outermost, it was probably saved with a deprecated outer "
pallid compass
If anyone gets any free time could they help me with setting up my simple movement for a flying ship
last loom
there's a spaceship in one of the blueprint examples that has all of that coded out already
in the Content Examples project
pallid compass
Yeah iv seen it its not what im after sadly
Im trying to use A and D to move my spaceship left and right, and while it moves left and right i want to rotate it slightly
But its all going wrong
last loom
just change the nodes around, use it as a starting point
I copied it over and ended up with descent style controls in my side project
pallid compass
Its not what i want, i want my camera too stay still if u get me
last loom
then make the camera stay still
it's a starting point ๐
it has camera lag on the spring arm in that example
just check it off
pallid compass
Im trying to get it so when i hold A
Your ship moves to the side and tilts
But your camera does not
pallid compass
I got the camera down, and moving it to the side
But when i rotate it weird shit is happening
last loom
first "Get location" of the camera, then "detatch component" then "set location" to the one you just got
it'll just stay put effectively
pallid compass
I think i realised where im fucking up haha
when i move it and then rotate it im taking it off the X axis
last loom
๐ yeah man there you go
pallid compass
How the heck do i tell it to rotate but stay in the world X axis when moving left and right?
pallid compass
How do i inverse a number? like turn 25 to -25
last loom
multiply it by -1 ๐
you want to add to the camera's location transform, and tell it to keep the rotation the same
or maybe there's something else weird, try playing with the spring arm component
are you making a side-scroller?
dawn crescent
hey guys, is there i way i can lock the frame rate for my mobile game im making, i launched it on my phone today and it plays okay but just barley whenever the player moves and whenver the enemies chase me there is a "seeing double" effect where you can see a vauge image of where you where in the previous frame. i think locking the frame rate to 30 would fix it since but im not sure on that either. all suggestions are welcome
dawn crescent
well i was able to cap frame rate at 30 through console commands, but im curious if you guys have any thoughts as to what would cause that weird effect apart from lag
prisma bloom
where do i go to pitch stupid ideas. 8D
gentle solstice
As much as I love UE4, I'm really fucking sick and tired of it launching SteamVR every single time, whether you work on a VR game or not. Furthermore, if you close SteamVR, the game closes too ๐ก
And SteamVR changes audio device, so I end up having to change audio device constantly, unless I want to uninstall SteamVR any time I work with UE4
vale osprey
2-nd edition of really good book is out:
http://www.informit.com/store/3d-user-interfaces-theory-and-practice-9780134034324
heady root
hey Ive got problem with localization. I added 2 cultures but in project settings->packaging->localization to package in show localized I've got empty list
cursive dirge
@gentle solstice just disable steamvr plugin from your project
You can enable it again when you actually need it
But I agree, it is annoying
pallid compass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX1Prbs_vd0
anyone got an idea how he created the trust lines on this?
anyone good with particle systems?
gentle solstice
@cursive dirge It's not a VR project. SteamVR opens every time any UE4 editor opens. VR or not
cursive dirge
@gentle solstice yes, because all projects have steamvr plugin enabled by default
just go into plugins and untick steamvr
or put it manually to your .uproject like: "Plugins": [ { "Name": "SteamVR", "Enabled": false } ]
pallid compass
fml i hate particle systems D:<
jade warren
@pallid compass look on these, maybe will help you http://iryos-workshop.com/en/overwatch-winstons-gun/
pallid compass
That is not through though
I just cant figure out how this guy made thm straight lines in ue4 cascade
fierce tulip
its just a cylinderical mesh with a gradient panning around it, and another panning along it
pallid compass
Oh? ๐ฎ
i thought it was a particle system
iv been trying to do it for ages
lmfao
fierce tulip
it can be, but doesnt have to
fierce tulip
get a cylindrical mesh, get two noise textures, one panning along it horizontal, other vertical, add color and emissiveness, and either use vertex colors or a gradient to fade out the ends
pallid compass
Hmmm maybe not i dont know how to do that haha
fierce tulip
saying you cant and trying are two different things
pallid compass
I dont know much about textures, and stuff with materials
Im not too bad with cascade but materials are really not much iv dived in too before
fierce tulip
^
cursive dirge
what Luos said will give you an idea what to research for
fierce tulip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Civkr1OsOsA follow this without skipping stuff and you can basically make anything
pallid compass
omg lmao
okay haha
Holy fuck
thats long
mfw just trying to make jet engine particles for college ๐
cursive dirge
2h is too much?
we spend years learning this stuff...
not a single effect but gamedev in general
fierce tulip
< almost 15 years of experience
cursive dirge
I started in the 80's ๐
fierce tulip
tssk about complaining something is 2 hours
or you pay me for two hours of work and i'll get you the best thruster ever seen
craggy nymph
Actually it's even less than 2 hours. I usually watch tutorial videos at least at 1.5x the normal speed, up to 2x, depending on how slow the speaker talks. Especially when you watch a lot of videos, you end up hearing the same thing a dozen times, waiting for the new info you seek. Saves a lot of time.
pallid compass
Im not saying its too much, what im trying to figure out for college i would of thought it was relatively simple
vale osprey
if something takes just 2 hours to learn - it is pretty simple
kindred viper
gonna have a play with that on a day off. Looks fun
keen birch
Same as HappyDay for me
Girlfriend told me to do that because of the sheer amount of talks and tutorials I watch for the sake of gathering knowledge
And it's actually really damn clever, though I'd have never come up with it
raven cedar
so long as you are actually learning and able to apply what you learned. Speed of learning is irrelevant IF you are absorbing material. If, however, you need to re-re-re-watch and re-re-re-click along, you might want to slow your roll.
Also, anyone who thinks that an investment of 2 hours, 2 days, or even 2 weeks, into a single process, to understand it, is a long time, needs to find another business to be doing work. Development, Design, Pipelines, Production, these are not "I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night -- I know everything". I am 20 years in this field of engineering, and I learn, new shit, everyday.
keen birch
I disagree with any statement saying "not the field of work for you" unless it's because someone hates games
But on the other note
Yeah, obviously you do need to pick stuff up from it
THat's where having multiple screen comes in xD
raven cedar
I dont make games
keen birch
Well, unless someone hates whatever the field has to do with
raven cedar
You dont put someone who has no skills at making software, at making software. Just because they "love" something, is not enough to actually be good at it
The world works on expertise, not hopes and dreams
kindred viper
I have seen this first hand. Its the worst thing you can do to a game
keen birch
Yeah, but you can't make a flat statement about a single thing making a field of work inappropriate completely without context
raven cedar
the context is here
its been established in what was stated
this is not some new abstract rando statement
making games/software is hard. Learning is HARD
pine yoke
Hey people, new to the forum and to unreal I am trying to make a camera orbit around a static mesh , i cant find anything useful in the unreal learn content is there anything you can point me to? Or anyone who can help me out?
raven cedar
you skip on the learning part because you think you can, and you will not end up well
again, not saying dont speed run training material, I do it all day, everyday.
but dont think that watching it == osmotically absorbing it
keen birch
I know hopes and dreams don't make stuff happen, but be careful with claiming stuff like "Not the right field of work" because you don't know that ๐
That's my point
raven cedar
yes I do
I do know that
I have hired and had to fire plenty from the "I have a dream" category
keen birch
I just stated
That those two are separate points
Or at least, I meant to insinuate it
raven cedar
not really. If you want to be in that field, you learn, practice and apply. You dont watch a tutorial, get a thought, and apply for a job
keen birch
When I come across a tutorial stream done by e.g. Epic and it's two hours
I go "Oh, damn, that's long"
raven cedar
2 hours == nothing
keen birch
Not because that makes it undo-able
But just because I usually don't have stretches of two hours available
And if I do I usually spend them on other stuff
raven cedar
there are series that span days, again, nothing to do with the material topic, or length, it has to do with the end user and what they do with that after
if you dont apply that knowledge, to any problems, you have zero practical experience
everyone can watch tutorials. Not everyone can actually learn, absorb, iterate, and reapply
keen birch
You made a statement about someone being in the wrong business because he said "That's long" -> without context because he never said Too long, and even if he did it could just indicate a lack of time, or a weighted consideration of time it takes to learn it against the benefit of doing so
ANd that's what bugs me
raven cedar
context is making games? no?
kindred viper
I wont name names here but I know someone who makes games. He's not a coder but he has learned enough to string together the logic. He loves what he does which is why he makes games obviously. However he doesn't learn properly and just dives in. I have debugged some of his stuff and its like someone told him the right way to do it, and he did the opposite. Now his code works, but not optimally. Now if I was his boss and he brought that work to me, I would fire him. Just my perspective as a professional.
raven cedar
we are all here to use UE to make a product, no?
context is, someone watched a tutorial, and now can do what they need to do to solve whatever problem they faced
hasnt changed?
keen birch
I don't mean that context
I mean the person's context
As I literally just said, he may just be short on time and expecting it to be easier
And then it wasn't that simple and he was just surprised
I have that too at times
Doesn't mean I'm not suitable for this
And that's why I'm being pissy about this
Because you're basing your claim on a single statement
kindred viper
Im pathetic at maths.... doesn't mean I shouldn't be a coder.
raven cedar
like I said, for four times now, time invested does not matter unless they are only watching and not applying
yes, I am, and 25 years of school and business experience watching people do it?
keen birch
That's got literally nothing to do with the discussion, though
keen birch
The discussion was just that I feel you shouldn't claim that he's in the wrong field purely based on a single statement
kindred viper
same. I even do calculus quite often
raven cedar
cause I didnt just copy-pasta some dudes bullshit
kindred viper
I just learn what I need at the time and if it's maths, forget it until later :p
keen birch
Because claiming that is just ignorant of everything else that may be going on with the person, e.g. that this is of minor importance and he therefore doesn't feel it's worth looking into if he's short on time
raven cedar
I guess the short answer is easy: If you feel I am wrong, get an industry job, hire a bunch of whomever, and make cool shit
till then
keen birch
That's really not my point, though
raven cedar
but appearntly it is
keen birch
You're honestly 100% missing the point I'm making
raven cedar
you are being obtuse to the original topic of learning quickly
and keep wanting to apply what I am saying to more than is here
kindred viper
DEFINE POINT_YOURE_MAKING;
keen birch
"Also, anyone who thinks that an investment of 2 hours, 2 days, or even 2 weeks, into a single process, to understand it, is a long time, needs to find another business to be doing work. Development, Design, Pipelines, Production, these are not "I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night -- I know everything". I am 20 years in this field of engineering, and I learn, new shit, everyday."
raven cedar
yeah, please, define it
keen birch
THat's what I'm referring to
raven cedar
still stands?
raven cedar
I even pointed out, time is non-factor?
raven cedar
If he watched it and didnt learn jack shit, yes, yes it does
raven cedar
just cause you have no time, and can watch it quickly, doesnt mean you should?
keen birch
You just know that it was more complicated than he expected
kindred viper
I once spent 3 months learning the maths to make a top-down marble madness style camera for UDK. 2 of those months were purely down to learning about calculus and trigonometry.
same thing every day though
raven cedar
just cause you have no time, and can watch it quickly, and CAN learn, also doesnt mean you should
raven cedar
but that is not the point, at all, of the original CONTEXT
watch it fast, watch it slow, watch it not at all. If you are not applying that knowledge, what speed matters?
keen birch
We're arguing completely past each other
We're both arguing about a different thing ๐
So never mind
raven cedar
I guess. I am simpy saying, you can read all the books ever, you can watch all the videos ever, if you are not actually doing any work, what good are your skills, at all.
watching, reading == not enough
keen birch
Very true
kindred viper
I think everyone should quit games dev. Then see how the world copes until all games are considered retro. Then make one giant new super MMO game the world can enjoy ! We can call it "Thermonuclear war is good for your complexion".
raven cedar
we can sell sunscreen
keen birch
And I'm just stating that I feel you shouldn't say, based on a single comment without context, one should call the person unfit for a job
That's literally my only point
And yes. We should
Dibs on making the bad parts of the code
kindred viper
honestly.... reading and studying doesnt need to be work based to learn. For the past 2 years I have worked on a single title. In the meantime I have watched Epic streams, tutorial videos, read websites, followed the facebook group and helped others to learn and assisted with their problems. Now if you ask me my hands on experience, you would think I am a noob, but I am not. That is osmosis and dedication working right there.
keen birch
๐
That's a thing which bugs me about the "Without shipped titles you're not credible"
The fact that I haven't shipped my things yet doesn't mean I haven't worked my ass off for the last two years
kindred viper
I can live with that though. You haven't experienced the traits of released titles
keen birch
In some respects I understand it
raven cedar
in semi-related advice news: https://twitter.com/Emre_C_Deniz/status/851612834437808128
keen birch
In other respects it's just ignorant
raven cedar
yeah, no shipped products sucks, but that is evidance of nothing
your work is your work -- even if it never sees the light of day
keen birch
"Whether you use Maya, Max or Blender, you're always going to be absolutely trashed by the UI and weird bugs, so learn how to cry instead."
kindred viper
I have no degree. I do have 3 shipped titles now though. So technically I am employable. Im not sure it means I have the right skills, but I am employable and thats all my credit card bills care about
keen birch
xD
raven cedar
so tru
keen birch
Was about to say
"Every single GDD you will ever write will be worthless by the time you actually start production and will be completely forgotten by the end"
Oh
Define GDD though
kindred viper
game design document
keen birch
Yeah, I know
raven cedar
God Damn Doughtnut
keen birch
But there's a million ways to set up a GDD
kindred viper
generally distressing doodoo
keen birch
So some ways may be completely useless, while others can be useful throughout for just keeping track of things
But uh
kindred viper
if you are working with others, none of them are entirely useless. You need some way to convey visually
cursive dirge
how do you do that?
oh right, it wasn't discord where I wanted to format text like that, it was on the forums
figured it out
vale osprey
@keen birch it doesn't say that gdd is useless it says it's worthless when production starts
this assumes that your protoype phase is already semi-finished, by that time, bunch of "solutions" and "ideas" are already changed
it doesn't mean that you shoudn't even write it, quite the opposite
and it's always important to distinguish between cases when someone teaches gamedev or software development and then reality of the job
like you final job can be about coding physical simulations, after few years you won't need to put everything on paper. But when you are still learning, its very important to have everything on paper
but I agree with @raven cedar Gamedev or software development is all about learning. Besides business side thats more or less all what you do. You don't need to be coder for this either, artists need to learn new tools and pipelines all the time.
pallid compass
how does stuff work with more than or less than when your in minus numbers?
vale osprey
-20 is smaller than -10
if you imagine a line with a 0 at the middle
everything further down left is smaller than everyhing further down the right
which makes people buthurt with opertations like Floor and Ceil ๐
pallid compass
gotcha haha
btw do u know how to set local rotation on a mesh object inside a bp?
keen birch
@vale osprey Fair enough
But even so I tend to keep my GDDs updated as the project continues
So there's an overview of the entire plan there
plush yew
hello, just a quick question - i downloaded content examples from learn tab. Can i use the blueprints (with meshes) in commercial capacity for my project. (will be releasing it on steam) or are they for learning purpose only?
vale osprey
@pallid compass drag it into event graph and pull pin, type SetRelativeRotation
pallid compass
I think relative is messing up my movement
hmmm
Depends which way im facing depends if it works properly or not
vale osprey
@keen birch it's not a useless thing, that recomendation is more to the point that people shoudn't get suprised or attached to it too much
pallid compass
A and D move u left and right and depending how far left or right u go rotates your shit with it to add some gliding look
keen birch
Yup, I see
vale osprey
"rotates your shit with it" - should go into signature ๐
pallid compass
I dont get it, if i face the other way it moves the ship down in to the ground
vale osprey
I'm not sure what that code is suppose to do to be honest - you use position as input to rotation
pallid compass
You press A and D, your camera remains in the same position but it moves your ship left and right, the further you move left and right, your ship tilts with it
vale osprey
well, first thing is to make sure that your ship is aligned with X axis, otherwise Yaw/Roll/Pitch don't have much sense
pallid compass
Of the movement im trying to create
light thunder
I have an actor BP that is set to No Collision but my pawn can't move through it...what am I forgetting?
light thunder
I was just the pawn to be able to move through the BP actor...
light thunder
so i went to the main collision static mesh and change collision to no collision
vale osprey
@pallid compass you need roll for this movement, not pitch
what I don't see in your graph is what will make offset smaller when you already went over the movement limit
@light thunder maybe you have some other object there?
or multiple components with colliison meshes
vale osprey
do you have just one of them?
light thunder
a few, but one of them is a big truck, the other is a laptop in the truck...but when I try to move through the BACK of the truck, which is just the truckSM, I still get blocked
pallid compass
Help blake first, il brb 5 mins, if you dont mind Bored, if u could help me with this it big a huge help
vale osprey
but does truck have collision mesh?
light thunder
does that matter if it is set to ignore collision...maybe I should just make the pawn character ignore eveything
I need overlaps becasue I have a lot of trigger volumes but I don't want collision
so I could go to pawn and change to overlap only?]
light thunder
k
vale osprey
so truck is a seaprate model? or it's a part of BP?
vale osprey
is there are anything else beside truck and laptop?
light thunder
not enough to collide with size wise
like if I was hitting those other actors, wouldn't I know it
vale osprey
you can set preset to Custom and then explicitly say NoPhysicsNoQuery
not sure what is going on there
Show Collision from console might give some clue
light thunder
I got it, thank you!
wait, I don't got it
that's weird
I can move through the object ONCE
but when It moves again (i'm transformming it across the map) it collides again
Yeah confirmed...it is the EXACT BP but it gets moved ....I'm starting the map and running through the truck all around but when it gets move twice, it stops me from moving through it
OHHH i know what is happen
EDIT: Since I was moving the truck around, I had made some dummy SM's that I'm using as a positioner, and I hide them at game time
vale osprey
that was it I guess
light thunder
ugh is happening it's still doing it
vale osprey
have you disabled collision on those dummy SMs?
light thunder
the ones I needed
normally I want some collision this was just to grab a screenshot without switiching out actors ...I had to be in the MIDDLE of something
pallid compass
back
Whats a good way to figure out the distance between Scene root and a static mesh in it?
cobalt locust
Hello, I have a question related to variables in .ini files. Could you help me with this? I'm not too competent in this matter to understand this myself ...
Please, watch this from 15:53 to 16:03. You can see, what trees appear at very short distance.
https://youtu.be/pTZBizRiTkk?t=953 He did this by adding a variable to one of the .ini files, I think it's something related to the draw distance, could you help me understand how he did it?
