you have sullied my monitor ๐ฎ
#ue4-general
sharp crest
http://prntscr.com/e7j1er
#PlayingTheLie
plush yew
is garbage, 
for life. also what is ๐ข Engine?
in seriousness though, Unreal is not supported by SpatialOS, so I have to use Unity until they get support
sharp crest
lol these icons, I want Nitro too so I can use my amazing :Panda icon! xD
sharp crest
Whats SpatialOS?
sharp crest
Sounds nice, wonna show us what you are working on?
kindred viper
when I clicked the link, Discord opened Edge browser. The disappointment was real.
sharp crest
xD
plush yew
wait, does that allow me to use multiple PCs in order to run one instance of Unreal Engine?
what happens is it creates multiple instances of unreal across as many machines as you need
and those run the server side simulation
oh
sharp crest
Hmm so you need multiple PCs to run a game with this? lol
plush yew
you don't think about the PC's
it probably works with just one as well...
that is all server side and invisible
if you have 5 players it'll run with one
if you have 6000 players it needs 2
anyways the game jam is still in progress so I don't have much to show, but I do have one gif of a bug that happened
http://giphy.com/gifs/l0Ex5NHzEix1fGjwQ
kindred viper
sounds like a scalable cloud server system for unreal multiplayer am I right?
plush yew
@kindred viper yep! once they get unreal support working
but for the next few months it is unity only
kindred viper
I would have thought Unreal supported this already but you live you learn ๐
plush yew
a few mmo's have already been made with it
sharp crest
lol wtf
bronze lava
make it happen
plush yew
I dont need MMO servers
in that case you don't need spatial
I am going to write an AI that will replace online players
for anything less than mmo spatial is overkill
and just makes things more complicated
it will be massive multiple offline rpgs
kindred viper
thats pretty standard practice though. I wouldn't be debugging multiplayer without AI
sharp crest
@plush yew Impossible
sharp crest
Cuz poeple have mind, bots dont :P
And that means that poeple will do stupid things sometimes, and bots not :P
kindred viper
I wouldn't say impossible. It's just a really subjective process to code stupidity :p
plush yew
oh you would be surprised how advanced AIs are nowadays
kindred viper
I mean... online people are generally stupid :p
sharp crest
Yep! xD
plush yew
welll, I dont want to replace nasty online players
sharp crest
Also, you gotta make them noobs when they play first time xD
plush yew
no one said anything about copying the average gamer xD
sharp crest
xD
kindred viper
theres loads of great articles about making learning AI. Nobody ever writes AI with altzheimer's though. That could be useful
plush yew
what I was talking about had more in common with storytelling AI than an enemy AI
well whatever
sharp crest
Well I guess you can copy what the regular players do
Save everything that they do and just tell the bots to do it but a bit different
plush yew
thats not my goal though xD
I want a peasant to act like a peasant
and not like a 15 yo kid who doesnt know how to spend his time
sharp crest
I want a pizza that acts like something tasty as hell that I'm going to eat, do I get it? No
Why? cuz I didnt order one!
xD
lol
kindred viper
here's a thought. Non-observable AI. What determines the rules of AI that cannot be observed. I mean, you would never know what it was doing, therefore it could be doing anything. Even plotting your demise. I say all AI must be observed. This is called the Synthetic Paranoia Observation Rule.
sharp crest
English please
kindred viper
I need to lay off the coffee for a while.
sharp crest
I'm gonna work on AI for my game soon, hopefully it will turn out good :P
plush yew
@kindred viper thats actually a concept that I am heavily abusing for my AI
or at least a concept similar to what you stated
kindred viper
technically un-observed AI works quicker than observed AI because results can be determined with no rendering or manipulation of assets so to speak. It's all done on paper and the complete result, once observed, can be determined and rendered appropriately. So it does make sense to account for non-observable AI in terms of optimisation.
I just don't trust em ยฌ_ยฌ
they might steal my code !
kindred viper
I've been on a bit of an AI binge recently. Not so much in terms of games development though but things like the AI beating professional poker players. Also things like what happens if you give AI the ability to code itself and when we get to the point in human history when we can make things from atomic level interaction, how will we deal with computers that can learn our entire history in seconds and have the ability to create objects from it's surrounding resources.
plush yew
I am doing stuff with AI lately as well
but more in terms of development
not particularly for games though
kindred viper
My next AI expedition is going to be a dungeon master AI for deciding a dynamic experience of traps, puzzles and enemies to fight. Should be more fun than a standard enemy AI
plush yew
i guess I am aiming a little higher...
supple lake
anyone know of a good way i could create a good space like bullet?
fierce tulip
space like bullet?
supple lake
yea
safe rose
So what's the problem?
Just make a beam particle
and put it on a projectile
and go pew pew
fierce tulip
yuck beam particles :p
safe rose
Or, use an emmisive
on some skinny mesh capsule thing
make it really glow
and make it go pew pew
supple lake
hmmk
fierce tulip
thats almost 1:1 the projectile Kylo Ren managed to stop, but for some reason without scenery it looks dull
safe rose
Han Solo or No Solo
supple lake
yea thats along lines of what i wanna make
safe rose
Make it pew pew then
safe rose
ya, show me the money
supple lake
watch all 10 and ill be good in terms of making any particle my tiny brain can think of?
fierce tulip
well, you can use any 3d program you like. I just started with 3dsmax and stuck with it
safe rose
I know I know
supple lake
i use maya:p
fierce tulip
my god man, teach me thy ways
safe rose
You don't want them
worn merlin
Anyone know how to add an Event trigger on a Sequencer Timeline? Nothing happens when I click it.
brave horizon
@worn merlin So it's firing the event, is anything listening to the event?
as in, have you bound another event to listen for sequencer?
past pilot
has anyone used the auto LOD? i set mine to foliage type and if i try to adjust the triangle reduction it crashes every time
feral echo
Is there any way to get mesh picture in ue4 without doing manual screenshots? Like, some function or something?
brave horizon
@feral echo Try execute console command 'shot'
plush yew
cameras can make a material of what they see, thats prolly what you want, see this (random google result, might be able to find better suited to what u want) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWRkM-95k2I
or yea, shot if u just want to save a screenshot
but 'mesh picture in ue4' kinda sounds like you want a camera feed or see trough portal or whatnot ๐
sharp crest
Hmm where would I want to save variables that shouldnt be removed when the player dies?
In the character or the controller? I assume the character but just to make sure
feral echo
@plush yew no, I want to get "preview" picture of mesh for user interface. Like in content browser
plush yew
aaah
that might be some feature of 'Slate' (the framework used for the editor ui)
actually, what i suggested is prolly the easiest approach
youd make a map that has a camera and can loop trough all your meshes that need a thumbnail
then some script to loop trough and take and store screenshots
if your meshes are 'dynamic' (ie; can look different and you wont have much use for predefined thumbs) look at this thread for some advice: https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?43354-How-to-make-a-thumbnail-of-a-3D-mesh
btw @sharp crest i would say in the controller, you dont want everybody with the same character to share their variables right
sharp crest
Hmm what how that could happen lol? @plush yew
And hmm not sure about that but doesnt the controller gets "removed" when the player dies?
sharp crest
hmm then I guess it doesnt matter?
plush yew
i guess ๐
sharp crest
:P
south mulch
hello there, is there a way to have a colored background for the material thumbnails in the main viewport?
velvet fern
is there a way yet to isolate unused assets?
fierce tulip
I just select all assets, press delete, cancel any that's linked :p
velvet fern
works i guess
velvet fern
my textures are very low res when i export a cinematic, how do i fix this?
nevermind, it's textures streaming
signal shore
If someone wanted to break down the difference between the World Outliner and the Content Browser, would it be that everything in the world outliner is just for the current level and it contains objects that are already "active" / spawned vs the content browser having assets you first have to make active by either spawning them or like assigning them in the project settings?
plush yew
content browser is for the stuff on your disk
world outliner is for the stuff in UWorld
signal shore
i guess technically GameInstance is not in UWorld then?
because i edit game instance or game state from the content browser
kindred viper
GameInstance is derived from UObjectBase so it's an independent object and doesn't require UWorld
signal shore
is everthing in UWorld an actor?
kindred viper
not necessarily
signal shore
do you have an example of what wouldnt be?
kindred viper
a component would be one. Anything that isn't an actor and requires UWorld basically.
signal shore
is a component always tied to an actor?
or are there non-actor components?
a component always has some sort of parent, or?
kindred viper
Components need an actor but Actor Components are like a self-contained version
signal shore
thanks
plush yew
@signal shore stuff like GameInstance is being instantiated by the engine at startup
the engine makes sure that it's "always there"
golden tide
How can I make my skeleton show the animation I'm previewing in the "Animation" tab?
oblique fern
how should i handle steam leaderboards using blueprints?
safe rose
@oblique fern Sounds like a #multiplayer / #blueprint issue
But, short answer, you don't
It's bugged
There are some plugins that fix it though
I think someone posted one in #multiplayer the other day
I think it was @plush yew actually
oblique fern
ok ty
i wouldn't know how to make a class from it as he describes.. or at lesat how to and then recompile everything
oblique fern
i have a website, i wonder if i could just connect to it using blueprints, and upload/download the high scores myself
worn granite
@oblique fern well you can use a plugin that'll let you access a REST Api
brave horizon
Packaging a game for windows takes me 6 hours (or so) is that standard?
tiny ivy
Has anyone got the Steam overlay working on 4.14.3? I've tried everything for a couple days now and nothing will show up.
oblique fern
@tiny ivy - when i launch stand alone, or packaged, it works for me
ok i lied, maybe not the packaged game
from older forum for shipping - This is Normal don't worry, you simply need to add in your final release folder the Steam DLL Needed and of course your app_id.txt
that didn't help eitehr, steam dll is there. added the app_id.txt containting the app id.
tiny ivy
@oblique fern That's a jumbled mess, I don't know what you're saying.
Did you get it to work? If so, what'd you do?
oblique fern
for shipping yes, filename s/b steam_appid.txt and it goes in Project name/Binaries/Win64
steam_appid.txt just contains the app id and nothing else
tiny ivy
What about running as as standalone game.
oblique fern
i downloaded the sdk awhile back, and copied the DLL's over, following instructions from a website or two
then updated my defaultengine.ini file to contain the app id
and the steam sdk version somewhere in the ini file
tiny ivy
I did all that and enabled the steam subsystem plugin in the project, but when I run as a standalone game, steam doesn't do anything.
oblique fern
for leaderboards i would like to iterate and display the top 20 high scores, but apparently that is broken. i can only display my score
you put in the '480' app id?
tiny ivy
Yes. I've tried multiple tutorials, and have tried the preinstalled 132 version and the updated 139 version. Enabled the plugin...and still nothing.
I've gotten it to work easily on older engine builds.
oblique fern
kind of weird on mine, folder in packaged game says 'steamworks132' but i have sdk version 138 downloaded. thought i had used the version 138.
tiny ivy
What's the folder name for your engine version? 4.14 or UE_4.14 in the Epic Games folder
oblique fern
in the projects folder in project, nothing like that.. epic games folder, is there one if so how do i find it
tiny ivy
Some people are saying adding the steam_appid file fixes it. @oblique fern Did you say you had one from compiling or something? What does the file look like. I don't know how to format it.
oblique fern
it's a simple .txt file, containing the steam app id only inside it. i didnt say anything about compiling
tiny ivy
I just reinstalled steam and all my engine versions. I downloaded a project that has been said to have "working steam" ingtegration...and still nothing works. This is so confusing
weary basalt
Are you logged into steam?
tiny ivy
Steam is logged in and open @weary basalt
weary basalt
Have you added the NetDriver settings to your .ini?
Did you include the Steam Online subsystem to your Build.cs
tiny ivy
Here's my ini
[/Script/EngineSettings.GameMapsSettings]
EditorStartupMap=/Game/Levels/MainMenu.MainMenu
GameDefaultMap=/Game/Levels/MainMenu.MainMenu
[/Script/Engine.GameEngine]
!NetDriverDefinitions=ClearArray
+NetDriverDefinitions=(DefName="GameNetDriver",DriverClassName="/Script/OnlineSubsystemSteam.SteamNetDriver",DriverClassNameFallback="/Script/OnlineSubsystemUtils.IpNetDriver")
[OnlineSubsystem]
DefaultPlatformService=Steam
PollingIntervalInMs=20
[OnlineSubsystemSteam]
bEnabled=true
SteamDevAppId=480
GameServerQueryPort=27015
bRelaunchInSteam=false
GameVersion=1.0.0.0
bVACEnabled=1
bAllowP2PPacketRelay=true
P2PConnectionTimeout=90
[/Script/OnlineSubsystemSteam.SteamNetDriver]
NetConnectionClassName="/Script/OnlineSubsystemSteam.SteamNetConnection"๏ปฟ
Don't know where my Build.cs file is
If it's a C++ file, my project is only blueprints. I've tried adding a c++ file but it gives me an error
weary basalt
Oh ok
[/Script/Engine.GameEngine]
+NetDriverDefinitions=(DefName="GameNetDriver",DriverClassName="OnlineSubsystemSteam.SteamNetDriver",DriverClassNameFallback="OnlineSubsystemUtils.IpNetDriver")
[OnlineSubsystem]
DefaultPlatformService=Steam
[OnlineSubsystemSteam]
bEnabled=true
SteamDevAppId=480
bVACEnabled=0
[/Script/OnlineSubsystemSteam.SteamNetDriver]
NetConnectionClassName=OnlineSubsystemSteam.SteamNetConnection
That should be the minimum stuff you need
tiny ivy
Testing it
weary basalt
Then you just need to enable the Plugin
Just to make sure you understand, if your game is multiplayer with Dedicated Servers, you need an C++ project to be able to build the Dedicated Server executable.
weary basalt
Really you should just need to enable the steam plugin
tiny ivy
This happened after trying to create a C++ file to make it a C++ project
weary basalt
Oh, once its a C++ project you will need to recompile it.
tiny ivy
I've got visual studio. How do I do that
weary basalt
You should have an .sln file in your Project directory now
tiny ivy
weary basalt
Right click .uproject and see if you can Generate the Solution File manually.
tiny ivy
That didn't work. Looks like a plugin. I'll remove it and try again
Awesome
Have the sln file now
weary basalt
See if it will open a project solution for you
tiny ivy
Parsing everything. Seems good so far
Scanning for additional files
It says "Ready". What do I need to do now?
I have a blank visual studio window...at least it looks blank
polar hawk
Hey, are you working on a Pod Racer?
weary basalt
NOOOO SHSSS
tiny ivy
@weary basalt Yes
polar hawk
Ah, you must be working on Not Pod Racer
weary basalt
mUST BE
tiny ivy
Right click on my "game" name and build?
tiny ivy
weary basalt
Press F5
tiny ivy
Out of date. Build it?
Clicked yes anyways
Build errors ๐
Do I have to remove plugins before building? The AdvancedSessions plugin is causing an error
weary basalt
Is it an .dll or is it open source?
tiny ivy
Open source
Removed it temporarily to see if I get a new error.
Now I get
Failed to produce item: C:\Users\rojo8\Documents\Unreal Projects\Solanum\Binaries\Win64\UE4Editor-Solanum.dll Solanum C:\Users\rojo8\Documents\Unreal Projects\Solanum\Intermediate\ProjectFiles\ERROR 1
Go to the Output tab, ignore the Error tab
tiny ivy
========== Build: 0 succeeded, 1 failed, 0 up-to-date, 0 skipped ==========
weary basalt
Yeah thats great we need the error mate haha
tiny ivy
1>------ Build started: Project: Solanum, Configuration: Development_Editor x64 ------
1> Creating makefile for SolanumEditor (changes to module files)
1> Performing 7 actions (4 in parallel)
1> PCH.Solanum.h.cpp
1>C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 14.0\VC\INCLUDE\crtdefs.h(10): fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'corecrt.h': No such file or directory
1>ERROR : UBT error : Failed to produce item: C:\Users\rojo8\Documents\Unreal Projects\Solanum\Binaries\Win64\UE4Editor-Solanum.dll
1> Total build time: 4.22 seconds
1>C:\Program Files (x86)\MSBuild\Microsoft.Cpp\v4.0\V140\Microsoft.MakeFile.Targets(37,5): error MSB3075: The command ""C:\Program Files\Epic Games\UE_4.14\Engine\Build\BatchFiles\Build.bat" SolanumEditor Win64 Development "C:\Users\rojo8\Documents\Unreal Projects\Solanum\Solanum.uproject" -waitmutex" exited with code 5. Please verify that you have sufficient rights to run this command.
========== Build: 0 succeeded, 1 failed, 0 up-to-date, 0 skipped ==========
You must not have corecrt.h
1>C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 14.0\VC\INCLUDE\crtdefs.h(10): fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'corecrt.h': No such file or directory
tiny ivy
Any idea on how to fix it?
tiny ivy
Oh duh ๐
weary basalt
You most likely need to update your visual studio
polar hawk
Are you on VS 2013?
tiny ivy
15
tiny ivy
Alright. I'll try that
tiny ivy
@weary basalt Repaired then reinstalled VS2015 and getting the error D:
weary basalt
You may have to google the issue im not at a computer to help you further at the moment sorry.
tiny ivy
I've tried. Found nothing. Now when I try to build I get this. I just give up.
Thanks for the help, though. I wouldn't have gotten as far as I did without it.
kindred mountain
@tiny ivy you need to set your gamemodule as the startup project
tiny ivy
@kindred mountain What does that mean/What do I click
kindred mountain
in visual studio in the solution explorer, you'll see 'Engine' and 'Games' top level folders
open the 'Games' one, then right click on the one that is your project (probably the only one), and selected 'Set as startup project'
tiny ivy
Got it. Thank you ๐
Still getting the C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 14.0\VC\INCLUDE\crtdefs.h(10): fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'corecrt.h': No such file or directory error ๐ฆ
Have no diea how to fix this
kindred mountain
something up with your VS install. May not have included the required stuff in the install?
tiny ivy
@kindred mountain I think so. Whenever I try to reinstall it says "VS may not have fully installed. Detected another install, already." But I've checked all the folders and files, and programs from control panel but can't find it.
weary basalt
Do you have older versions still installed?
If so you should remove all of them and just install the latest VS
weary basalt
Those are redists they are required. The last one is what you need. If you have anymore that look like the last one?
tiny ivy
I only have that one. It said earlier that both 64 and 32 bit duplicates existed, now just 32 bit
Not too worried about it anymore. I've been trying to make a game for over three years and run into stupid issues like this every day. I'm just done.
weary basalt
Dont give up. Perseverance is important. Do some research on the issue and see what you find.
idle cobalt
Hello all. Have some question about linking UE4 and VS 2015
Is this only IDE i can link with UE4?
kindred mountain
I think there are ways to get other IDEs if you want to spend the time investigating it
but really you're best off just using VS
idle cobalt
oh, thanks) just curious about. I currently work with NetBeans, so that is why i'm asking. Always need to learn something new)
and VS 2015 Community Edition is suitable for work with UE4?
or i need to catch up Enterprise or even Pro?
already found answer ^^
weary basalt
Community Edition is perfect for new comers.
cloud cobalt
Community works for everyone save big-ass companies
polar hawk
^not big ass, huge ass
idle cobalt
studying now official UE4 documentation to prevent stupid questions :)
polar hawk
Like, mega
cloud cobalt
Yeah, something like 250 computers if I remember well
Which is quite generous and honestly surprising, coming from the company that sells Office by the hundreds dollars
idle cobalt
quote from help - This guide is about learning how to write C++ code in Unreal Engine. Do not worry, C++ programming in Unreal Engine is fun, and actually not hard to get started with! We like to think of Unreal C++ as "assisted C++", because we have so many features to help make C++ easier for everyone.
hah)
cloud cobalt
Yeah, C++ in Unreal is nothing like regular C++
idle cobalt
oh, that is nice (and weird same time) ๐
Shroedinger C++
hm... from that moment i readed from docs, UE4 providing a huge variety of initial Classes.
so, simple thing could be implemented only with engine resources
interesting, very interesting
tiny ivy
Been working in UE4 for over three years... Didn't realize there was documentaion.
cloud cobalt
There is some, though not enough
Starting with Blueprint to get a hold of the thing is a good idea
idle cobalt
already reading about them ๐
i'm fairy moderate with C++ and Lua, so i don't fear of pure code ๐
weary basalt
You will fear UE4 source
idle cobalt
"They shall know no fear..."
hm...
Model in UE4 consist from 3 things - Mesh, Texture and Material. Am i right?
also, optionally, Animation could be added to this
cloud cobalt
More like mesh, lots of textures and material ๐
idle cobalt
hah) that is exact i wish to mention) thanks)
so, if i wish to add some object with model in level, i need to choose Mesh, lay on it Textures and Materials, and after that i can work with in-game Model, right?
just trying to understand algo of common work
cloud cobalt
What usually happens is that the artist creates a low-poly mesh, along with a normal map, albedo, and other textures ; then imports that in the engine, creates a material that uses the textures, and setup the mesh to use that material
From the code side you usually only worry about the mesh itself
Same for adding it to a level
idle cobalt
and if i need to change object texture (or material) after some event were triggered? i need to use Blueprint to do such kind of thing?
weary basalt
You could use C++ but yes, blueprint works to
idle cobalt
and main question (i hope i don't start holywar) - which way is faster to compute? ๐
cloud cobalt
It doesn't really matter
@idle cobalt The most important thing is to do something that works well and is easy to change
Performance is something you worry about if you need to, when you need to
weary basalt
C++ is much faster, but it really depends on the needs of the project ๐ Like @cloud cobalt said, if your new i wouldnt worry to much about that right now.
Just learn the basics first.
cloud cobalt
Usually performance doesn't really matter because most games are limited by the graphics first, it takes lots of logic to have performance issues on the CPU
idle cobalt
curious about pre-made templates in engine...
need a tip - is it more suitable to make a long way by my own and make some template-like app or i just need to use pre-made template and change it to my needs? which way is more suitable for learning and experience gaining (wow, such a PRG style question)?
about first - i need to have a full understanding of all engine elements involved in template to write my own
about second - i can see a working example and get understanding of how that damn thing is suited
ah, sorry, people
i already received a answer while re-reading a question lol ๐
cloud cobalt
I guess it depends on what you're doing but generally you should start from a template and modify it
Even if you're going to rewrite all of it later, at least you have something to start from
idle cobalt
for now i'm just learning the engine
i have a short period of critical mass of knowlenge (about one-two weeks) to begin make simple things in totally unexplored enviropment ๐
so, best use is study pre-made template and modify it a bit
kindred mountain
if you're new to UE4 then starting with a template would be sensible
idle cobalt
oh, thanks for tips ๐
for now i imagine such algo for me
start template project, learn it preciselly, to reach a fully understanding of process flow...
and after that try to change some things to make this template project looks like i wish to make ๐
sorry for my bad English, it isn't native language for me
cursive dirge
re: c++ is x times faster than blueprints
^that doesn't matter for most of the gameplay code at all
if you game logic takes even one ms to compute but you only do it once every now and then, you wouldn't care. You only care for things that can actually affect the perf (like mentioned before)
idle cobalt
thanks, already understand that ๐
cursive dirge
yeah, everything with heavy iteration / lots of data and you want c++
also
you can do pretty much everything in c++ that you can do in blueprints with ue4
but blueprints are more limited than c++
bluprints are also a lot faster for trying out new things, as they tend to be properly documented vs ue4's c++ api
idle cobalt
but can i code some Blueprint Brick directly with C++ in VS 2015, can't i?
cursive dirge
also, you can just throw in BP nodes and things usually just work
with c++ you need to figure how to setup the whole thing before you can use it
blueprints are unreals own visual scripting, you can only do them in ue4 editor
cursive dirge
you can however code a parent class in c++ and inherit it into blueprint
that's how ue4 engine classes work too
idle cobalt
Blueprints is good for fast prototyping
cursive dirge
they have base c++ classes
I'd say learn bit of both
you'll need to undertsand both when you use ue4
then use whatever feels good for you as your main programming target
idle cobalt
and if i need to callback some heavy to perfromance Blueprint node often i need to re-write it in C++ to get a performance boost, yep?
cursive dirge
yeah
you can just write parts in c++ and expose them to blueprints if you prefer that
glacial belfry
Can anyone tell me why when doing a simple level change, my placed actors double spawns?
cursive dirge
only thing that's way trickier if you want to do the opposite
but from c++ to blueprints, it's an easy path
idle cobalt
hm... i got some understanding here... thanks a lot! But still some things are confuse me
first - i read about Actors, Pawns, and Controllers
^^ in UE4 docs
Pawn is positioned as subclass of Actor
so, if i create an Actor (in example), i can use a Pawn to bind to it? Or Pawn is a static sub-class, which is could be created even if no Actors present in Level?
cursive dirge
pawn inherits actor class already
if you need player controllable actor, you use pawn as base type from the beginning
idle cobalt
oh, understad
cursive dirge
your pawns can of course control other actors if you wish to do so
idle cobalt
no need for additional class to implement this, ok ๐
cursive dirge
idea behind it, is that player can posses one pawn at a time
this also means you need to rethink the controls beyond pawn if you do something like RTS where you need to move lots of actors directly, but that's more of special case with games
usually you mainly control only one thing at any given time
idle cobalt
hm... UE4 don't contain RTS Pawn Controller? 0_o
cursive dirge
not out of the box
idle cobalt
hm. ok
cursive dirge
I wouldn't worry about that unless you really need to make RTS
idle cobalt
that is nice challenge to me ๐
cloud cobalt
That's what the templates are for
cursive dirge
but there's no RTS template
idle cobalt
indeed i need it exactly to make some RTS prototype ๐
cursive dirge
well, there is on the marketplace
ah
well
there's strategy game example on the launcher from epic
it's more like tower defence
but you can see how they did that there
cursive dirge
I've never done RTS myself but I'd start by treating all word units just as actors and keep the pawn (if needed) just to control everything
karmic aspen
Hello everyone.
I ask this here because I don't know in which channel it fits.
I'd like to know if basic collisions (sphere, capsule, cube) are calculated using vertexes or using continuous functions.
In the editor, I see them as spheres with a certain number of polygons. Is that their actual "resolution"?
cursive dirge
@karmic aspen proper channel for that would be #legacy-physics as it's related to physics engine
but no, primitive collision shapes are not using vertices
unreal sonnet
I made an RTS prototype a couple years ago
karmic aspen
@olento famn, missed that.. thanks!
cursive dirge
that's why they are a) cheaper to use b) more reliable
karmic aspen
I see, thanks a lot!
idle cobalt
@unreal sonnet wow) and how is it? challenging?
cursive dirge
np ๐
idle cobalt
i keep in mind the process of creation in fact ๐
unreal sonnet
When I said prototype, I mean it was just a demonstration of the gameplay mechanics. That's all, sadly. Let me show you an old Youtube video I put up a while back of it
idle cobalt
oh, would appreciate that ๐
cursive dirge
@karmic aspen also, if you wonder about physics/collision implementations on lower level, you can just check physx documentation instead of the ue4 one (ue4 docs just describe the things at higher level)
unreal sonnet
@idle cobalt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4UeZArIOP4
unreal sonnet
Yeah I started with the Top-Down template and deleted a lot of stuff
idle cobalt
will check it more closely today ๐
unreal sonnet
I later added group hotkeys and that Starcraft2-like group #s showing above the bottom UI panel
But that was as far as I got before I got discouraged and stopped
idle cobalt
inspiration - is the most important thing in programing ๐
more important that ever engine possibilities ๐
unreal sonnet
@idle cobalt here was another clip showing the group hotkey stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXr94-x2eCU
cursive dirge
btw
not free but most of that stuff is pretty inexpensive in case you need some ideas on the implementation
there's probaby some free tutorials around too
unreal sonnet
Do people actually pay money for that? I didn't know I could've packaged my crap and got money for it
cursive dirge
you can
unreal sonnet
I feel like a chump
idle cobalt
@unreal sonnet hey) your RTS implementation is looks good)
cursive dirge
but you often learn a thing or two or get new ideas when you see others implementations
unreal sonnet
@idle cobalt If you want I'll zip the project folder and you can use it
cursive dirge
most probably just use ue4's navmeshes
idle cobalt
no, thanks ๐ no challenge in that way of work)
i wish to make my own, step by step, with mistakes and a lot of brainstorming
that is cool
UE4 provide those navmeshes to all Pawns in Level? by default?
unreal sonnet
@idle cobalt Not by default - you have to place a navmesh actor in the level
idle cobalt
and it is a single Actor widering across all level?
or there could be more than one than one NavMesh with different rules? (like marsh with slowing movement etc.)
unreal sonnet
I think it's a single actor across the entire level, but maybe you can go to stuff like that. I'm not an expert on that
idle cobalt
ok, will experiment with this stuff more closely ๐
oh, wish to ask some hardware question
i have a GTX 1060 3 Gb + FX 8350 (8 cores) and 8 GB Ram
is this system suitable for comfort work with UE4?
forgot drive - i have SSD Kingston NOW 60 Gb, where UE4 installed
it hits recommended specs in docs, but i wish to prevent bottlenecking ๐
idle cobalt
RAM? i'm planning update to 16 Gb with set from 2x8 Gb DDR3-1800, should be fine ๐
heady root
hi do you know console command to set windowed fullscreen?
kindred marlin
@fierce tulip That sets it to fullscreen, not borderless windowed which is what @heady root wants.
You want to do the full command but instead of "f" do "wf"!
So it would be r.setres 1920x1080wf
fierce tulip
oh yea, derp
kindred marlin
Has anyone using 4.13.2 run into the issue where the Level Sequence in the Cinematics does not work when using a rail? I've got that going on, but my further testing shows that it is something in my project.
I looked around online to see if anyone else had similar issues to no avail.
heady root
@kindred marlin when I typed wf it's only fullscreen not windowed
kindred marlin
wf is Windowed fullscreen, which is the same as borderless fullscreened. You asked for windowed fullscreen.
Just w is windowed.
Kaftan - Today at 9:14 AM
hi do you know console command to set windowed fullscreen?
is there any option to set fulscreen with border ? ๐
kindred marlin
That is called fullscreen. It will make it so that it does not act like a windowed program.
...
Has anyone using 4.13.2 run into the issue where the Level Sequence in the Cinematics does not work when using a rail? I've got that going on, but my further testing shows that it is something in my project.
I looked around online to see if anyone else had similar issues to no avail.
Here is an example of it not working: http://i.imgur.com/8RSiMD8.gif
heady root
@kindred marlin I've said it wrong I want to change resolution without changing size of a window. For example window size is 1280x800 but the resolution is 720x480
kindred viper
that sounds like you need direct viewport control. Not blueprints.
kindred marlin
@heady root Something like this? https://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/INT/Engine/Performance/Scalability/ScalabilityReference/#resolutionscale
sacred crater
Hey all, looking for some opinions. In a 2D enviorment, what would be the best method to draw lines between 2 points?
mortal crown
guys i need a little help please, i'm making a topdown game, i made a new character so i could play with that one, but everytime i start on play to test stuff, it keeps creating another character and makes me play that one instead, the one i made, every blueprints were made from scratch and i checked the character documents on the ue docs but i still can't play that character
kindred viper
@sacred crater : Not sure if the HUD had anything particular but DrawDebugLines has been useful for me in the past. Sometimes I just have a simple mesh that I stretch and resize if I need a persistent line but that's in 3d terms.
sacred crater
Hmm more of a production ready solution
doing it with DrawDebugLine now but that's not really good for a non-dev visualiziation
kindred viper
indeed.
sacred crater
Any ideas?
Was gonna post in the forums but stopped that when i didn't know what sub-forum to post it in and eventually got distracted by my code :p
kindred viper
well when I switched out DrawDebugLine I make a simple cylinder mesh and resized it. You could do it with a plane too but I was in 3d so I needed it to be solid. I tried it with a material at first but I had issues with that.
I would check the hud class though because I never had use of it at the time so there might be something more appropriate for 2d
sacred crater
Hmm yeah i thought of drawing it on the screen
Might be the best solution
Gonna try that for a sec
sacred crater
if you want to follow @kindred viper, asked on forums https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?136784-Best-approach-to-2D-waypoints in case you're interested
pallid compass
Anyone know why some of my foliage is doing this?
sacred crater
because either shaders are compiling or it has no texture @pallid compass
pallid compass
Its got a texture on it, half of them work the other half dont :/
Texture works fine on two other grass meshes but not this one
hmm
There is no shaders compiling either
This id driving me up the wall omg
Fixed
Erm how do u make a static mesh bigger for the foliage tool
upper heart
does anyone know how collision works with tesellated meshes?
upper heart
ahh okay
cloud cobalt
Maybe particle collision is affected, but definitely not the rest
I'm not sure about traces against "visibility" either
upper heart
hmm so how do you create collision meshes for a tessellated mesh?
cloud cobalt
Well, for static meshes, it collides against what you set up in the editor
Tessellation shouldn't affect your mesh that much
upper heart
this is for a ground mesh, so it seems like my feel would be going through the floor in areas or I would be hovering in others
cloud cobalt
General piece of advice about tessellation, POM etc : use it for terrain
Don't use it for static meshes
You're going to get more predictable results with LOD
upper heart
what exactly do you mean by terrain?
I'm using it on the main cavern floor of my cave
cloud cobalt
Well, terrain. The thing you can editor in the editor
cloud cobalt
Yeah
Tessellation makes a lot of sense there since you may want to generate detail
On a mesh, basically, why not use LOD ?
For your collision question - Maybe test whether the "visibility" collision channel is affected by tessellation ? I'm not sure about that one
It makes sense that it should, though it also makes sense if it doesn't
upper heart
well my static mesh is a very large ground piece
I haven't used unreal's landscaping stuff
I am using tessellation to add more detail to the ground. it is a rocky, cave like ground
cloud cobalt
Yeah I understand. What i'm saying is, doing more smaller meshes with full detail at LOD0 + dithered LODs would achieve the same result as tessellation, but collision would be more predictable
Anyway, test with Visibility
south ridge
It's a good advice
Adding extra polygons onto a static mesh will probably be cheaper than placing a POM material over it all
upper heart
so is displacement also only display?
cloud cobalt
Well, "simple" collision, the one that is used for most physics, uses only what you generate for your mesh in the staticmesh editor
It can be completely alien to the mesh itself
So yeah, in simple collision, all material effects are ignored
What I'm not sure of, is what happens if you use per-poly collision
Or if you use a trace against visibility
It might be affected in these cases
kindred marlin
Has anyone run into the issue where the Level Sequence in the Cinematics does not work when using a rail? I've got that going on, but my further testing shows that it is something in my project.
I looked around online to see if anyone else had similar issues to no avail.
Here is an example of it not working: http://i.imgur.com/8RSiMD8.gif
upper heart
complex collisions also ignore it
kindred marlin
Rotation on the camera works, but not the position on the rail.
cloud cobalt
@upper heart Yeah, I thought so
So your best bet for this is to do regular meshes with highly detailed LOD0
It's not like UE4 has issues with multi-thousand of tris on a mesh
Then you can generate / model accurate collision
It might be wrong at different LODs but that won't be as visible
upper heart
yeah, right now I have a few ground meshes and they are < 4000 tris each. and then I displace a bit to add more detail
so I should break these into smaller more detailed meshes and create LODs to optimize?
how does collision work with LODs? can you have a different collision mesh per LOD?
cloud cobalt
You have lots of options
The default is to have one simplified hull that's generated from LOD0
But foot placement probably traces against the mesh itself (aka Visibility)
You can also setup collision to use complex per-poly
You can choose which LOD is used for complex collision
upper heart
yeah I use complex collision for some things. Like sticky bombs that stick to walls
cloud cobalt
You can't have multiple collision LODs
So you might do a LOD0 that collides at LOD1
upper heart
I see. I guess the closest LOD is really the most important
it will be hard to see collision issues further away
cloud cobalt
Welcome to physics ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
cloud cobalt
You're welcome
slim mica
Best way to downgrade my project version?
slim mica
I've read that, sounds really surreal lol
What about loading just a map, is that possible?
sacred crater
Nope :/
Unless you manage to import all static meshes from the newer version in the same hierarchy in the older version
and then copy paste the level content
but that's hacky
Why do you want to go back?
slim mica
I need to get a plugin
I was using preview to make the project
I have to redo everything, omg lol
sacred crater
Yup
plush yew
hey
have you ever had an issue with camera not allowing you to rotate after certain angle?
velvet fern
how can i make the viewport show the full cinematic with camera cuts?
gloomy apex
guys, I saved my project about a week ago, took a break and now i cant see the projectiles from FP blueprint - i havent touched anything
fallen schooner
What is the difference between IsValid and != null nodes?
It seems like I would want to use IsValid more often.
weary basalt
IsValid is basically the same as not null checking
I guess you have the added benefit of IsValid also checking for the object not pending kill
Just null checking could still return an reference to an pending kill object
fallen schooner
I figured that was the case.
idle cobalt
Hello all)
so, yesterday i were able to create an RTS Camera with zooming and mouse scrolling ๐ With tutorial, of course) First little step of a human, but great jump of community ๐
idle cobalt
hm... get stucked in State Machine. Need help, please!
In UE4 we have a nice Behaviour Tree Editor. It provides a easy-to-understand and implement Beahviuor tree
if i not mistake, main principle is - creating a list of possible states (End State Machine) and wia Behaviout Tree just change current object state to correct for current gameplay situation
like simple Peasant have a Idle State, Move State, Working State and Flee State
am i right?
or this is too complex method? and any other more simple exist?
kindred mountain
behaviour tree isn't really about states, it's about decision making
idle cobalt
hm...
a bit more clear for me now, but still some fog is there...
so, example Unit (Peasant) have 4 possible states
and wia Behaviour Tree (BT) it can make some decisions (like mine resources near target location or flee from enemy who attack him at current moment)
crude rock
So Uhm.. My Foliage painter isn't showing the instances of my foliage actors anymore.. and i can't add or delete any of my foliage anymore..
So Eh... there is more then 0 of each instance.... so i really have to delete the entire foliage to fix this?
idle cobalt
and i need to add Controller influence to this example unit to BT (to make this unit to do some certain thing, other words - force him to change it state)
dusky thorn
hi all. Someone has information about DistanceMatching that I mention @LDelayen
winter patrol
I have a problem in UE 4.14.3. I made a few set of stairs with the linear stairs brush in my project two weeks ago, then deleted them and now as I was building lights in my level the stairs came back but to a different place. They are not selectable, nor are they even in the outliner.
I have a level that has just a directional light, a sky sphere and a skylight and nothing else.
The stairs disappear when I save the level or if autosave comes on.
And appear again when i build the lighting.
and with everything hidden
plush yew
hey, Ive sculpted a landscape that was using a height map (using that heightmap as target) and now the collision seems broken..
what is missing for that to work now too, the collision still seems to be using the old landscape shape
ah works now, toggled overlap events and now it seems to behave
spice urchin
@keen kiln yeah use a texture with the patch shapes you want and make layers LERP between one and the other based on that texture
keen kiln
@spice urchin landscape layers? what about on a single landscape layer?
spice urchin
kinda depends on how you make your landscape layer, but yes
what's your material setup like?
@keen kiln this is how i'd do it https://gyazo.com/75ee21d3f4b24ae24d4c4ea93925620f
keen kiln
20 or so materials
layers
15 maybe
cant remember
setup differently
near + rf
far*
gusty kayak
My eyeballs are on fire
spice urchin
if you want to get fancier with it i'd also try using the Slope Node
keen kiln
ive been adding a ground clutter actor
spice urchin
if you use the grass node like that you can have objects placed based on which layer or part of a texture is white/black
keen kiln
woops
spice urchin
the grass thing lets you distribute meshes on landscape based on texture information and/or layer info
keen kiln
how do i add it to bp?
spice urchin
no need, it's all built into materials
you do have to make a grass type file and assign static meshes to it, but none of it is blueprint-work
what kind of objects are you trying to distribute anyway?
keen kiln
grasses
spice urchin
oh yeah this is definitely the way to go for that
keen kiln
ok tyvm
spice urchin
yup no prob
this is the only way to go for grass - if you try painting it with foliage tool it can get very expensive if your world gets big
this will auto-cull it in a good way as well
keen kiln
happen to have a screen shot of it in use?
spice urchin
yeah
the nice thing with this method is - you can assign color-matched grass assets to different layer sections
keen kiln
horizontal dark patch vs rest?
spice urchin
yeah
different color grasses are being applied automatically on different layer colors
it gets more complicated if you dig deeper
keen kiln
any more complex tuts?
spice urchin
not that i know of. i've been cobbling together bits and pieces of info from a lot of sources
and a lot of trial and error
i mean youtube has some
i'd check there
the newest stream covered some of this
i prefer the text-based documentation honestly, easier to take it at my own pace
but the videos can be good too
keen kiln
that grass node appears in the bp search bar after going though those steps?
or is already there under 'grass'?
spice urchin
it's not in blueprint, it's material editor
if it's in blueprint i'm not sure where or why
spice urchin
can be put anywhere
it's an output node
so it doesn't connect into the main area
here i'll show you
make a whole bunch of these https://gyazo.com/5b1aeec6f03c6a1c5d5ceec13a5b0c04
then assign your meshes in them by double clicking and selecting what you want https://gyazo.com/83c9d585e434fb9b2a535c5be6f25ee3
in your material editor this is how you'd have it hooked up https://gyazo.com/666095edbb6f3cc08d0dc091d3513a2a
keen kiln
TY again.
[Question] Performance - mesh proxys - how can you increase performance when using multiple hi poly meshes other than individual mesh LODs?
spice urchin
culling, turning off dynamic shadows
give them cheap shader settings for the most part
expensive material + high-poly will generally be doubly expensive
if the hi poly meshes are skinned, then reducing bone count will also vastly improve performance
some of these answers are pretty dependent on what kind of meshes we're talking about and what situation they're being used in
tall pendant
this channel should be correct or according to what you use #blueprint , #cpp
dusk widget
Okay :3 Well I'll go use this channel :p Just for know if someone have tips for Camera setting for a RTS / Moba, about FoV
spice urchin
gah it's frustrating that there aren't any nodes in UE4 for utilizing wind actors in level that aren't Speedtree
do not want to use Speedtree
weary basalt
The engine is open source. Your more than welcome to integrate other solutions yourself. Epic uses speedtree so it has support. It wouldnt make sense for them to add something they wouldnt use themselves. Thats one of the reasons being open source is great.
spice urchin
good point, i need to bug programmer about that
i know wind actor affects Neofur
so it couldn't be too far off
keen kiln
is there a way to transform foliage specifically mirror in a axis
keen kiln
you can
nevermind
unless.. can you do it without using the red green or blue arrows
?
scale -ively?
spice urchin
oh i see you want to be able to flip the actual shape to it's like an inverted shape
so left leaning stuff leans to the right etc
yes you can
you can set all the values to be in the negative
or you can have it random between
keen kiln
ticking random rotation will give varying x and y -ive, +ive values?
when painted in foliage editor
spice urchin
how do i invite someone here?
keen kiln
idk
cursive dirge
!invite
plush yew
cursive dirge
@spice urchin ^
spice urchin
ok thanks
fallen schooner
I am making a tower defense game. I have basic enemy and tower functionality and am ready to build the wave system.
I currently have a game mode that handles spawning the player pawn and placing objects in the world based on level data.
For the wave manager, would it be better to make it an actor component of the Game Mode, or its own actor spawned in the scene?
I'm leaning towards component, since we will always need one.
latent shadow
I'm a programmer (mainly c++) and looking to improve my unreal experince more, would any artist be interested in collabing with me on some form of a short learning project (1-2 weeks of work during work/college)? If you are interested pm me
didn't know where to ask hope it's ok here
past pilot
anyone install 4.15 yet?
and is it not on github yet?
nvm apparently a launcher glitch
grim sinew
Epic posted yesterday that they're targeting within a week. I doubt that it would come out a day later.
tiny ivy
How do you guys add compatability for steam? Do you just enable the steam subsystem plugin and add the config options to DefaultEngine.ini?
Is there something I'm missing? I can't get it to work for the hell of me
grim sinew
https://twitter.com/EightyLevel/status/831515033372938240
So why isn't this an official feature again?
thought Epic said runtime landscape deformation was impossible
kindred mountain
think that guy has done it with procedural meshes. Pretty impressive, although I want to know how he updates the collision without hitching (if he does, looked a bit hitchy in vids)
tiny ivy
@grim sinew It isn't with blueprints
grim sinew
Why would it need to be with blueprints?
tiny ivy
That's just what Epic said. You can deformate landscapes in runtime from blueprints. You've been able to do it in C++ for a while
grim sinew
Ah, really? That's interesting. I wonder what's stopping it from working with blueprints then?
kindred mountain
I thought the landscape tools were too embedded in the editor to be able to manipulate them at runtime ?
glacial belfry
is it posible to have Unreal not do a complete recompile of all modules when cooking a project using a custom version of the engine?
thorn forum
hey guys, quick question, I am trying to design a very basic level like a survey, where anonymous users will submit data and these data will be displayed on the next level. Anyone has done something similar? I have no idea where or how to store the data, if I have to use a plugin or something. I don't care if it's internal or external like a mysql or mongodb, or a simple csv. For example, Level 1: i need inputs of ID, age group, Gender -> level 2: 10 survey questions -> level 3: results based on all participants. Any references would be extremely helpful and much appreciated.
thorn forum
Maybe this guy nailed it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8jMl69alrg
The problem here is, there is no live update for the data. Read and write to the csv in real time
loud vapor
Are you attempting to get this data to be local only or sent to a server?
thorn forum
Local for now, the survey will be used on one computer
loud vapor
Just save it in game save files? Everytime you need to read them, do so
thorn forum
Do you have in mind of any guides or tutorials about game save files? I am quite new to all this ๐
The idea is, everytime the game restarts, a new person submits another set of data
loud vapor
Yeah you just read the save game data then iterate on that
Then save it out again for the next person
thorn forum
interesting. Awesome Kanga. Much appreciate your time. Reading time
loud vapor
More than welcome!
thorn forum
In the meantime, I am trying to create user text input from oculus touch on a VR keyboard. Do you think this might worth changing to a touch keyboard? http://tomofnz.wixsite.com/tomofnz/single-post/2016/12/04/UE4-VR-KEYBOARD-WIDGET-SWITCHER
ancient mist
Stupid question: given point A B and C (all FVectors which represent a world location), how do I calculate alpha (as in, get the euler angles for it, or get an FQuat or FRotator)?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Resolve_triangle_with_c_alpha_beta.png/250px-Resolve_triangle_with_c_alpha_beta.png
cursive dirge
@ancient mist you shouldn't crosspost the same question to many channels, just post it in most suitable channel and then if you don't get replies, you can ask other people to take a look at your problem on channel x
crossposting is bad because people often follow just specific channels and you split the conversation into mulitple channels
ancient mist
roger!
tawdry quail
does anyone have a blog suggestion or really any resource on how rendering works in videogames? I remember I found this insanely good blog with burning books or something but I lost it ๐ฆ
craggy nymph
I recently started reading "Essential Mathematics for Games and Interactive Applications". I like it. Not sure that's what you're looking for though. http://www.essentialmath.com/book.htm
tawdry quail
I'll check it out, thanks
heavy flicker
If i set my light source to movable, does it make any diff if i build lighting?
heady root
hey anyone know how can I set windowed fullscreen on 1920x1080 monitor with 720x480 resolution? Without using r.ScreenPercentage
cloud cobalt
Nope
Windowed fullscreen keeps your desktop resolution the way it is, and uses that to render the game
Contrary to regular full screen when the game hijacks the screen and set it to whatever resolution it wants
viral mantle
Ok so I want to press a button on my UI and cast a spelll what steps should i take to make this happen I've got the button I'm assuming I need some kind of target system for my spell to hit and an animation / character animation for castung the spell with particle effect is there anything I'm missing here?
thorn topaz
Anyone seen this? I'm trying to use the unreal merge tool for subversion conflicts and when I click merge, I get: Assertion failed: Revision.IsValid() [File:D:\Build++UE4+Release-4.12+Compile\Sync\Engine\Source\Developer\Merge\Private\Merge.cpp] [Line: 44]
boreal crown
Was UE 4.15 released? There's no news article about it but when i go to install UE4 the 4.15.0 option comes up as the default.
past pilot
silent drum
So, it's official?
past pilot
dunno, its confusing
silent drum
Now I can't do anything productive until I read the release notes
past pilot
as far as i can tell its not supposed to be out lol
wonder if its a misbranded preview 5 or something
silent drum
Awesome
cursive dirge
odd that they still haven't updates github
silent drum
That came out sooner than anyone expected
And yeah, GitHub is always a bit late on releases
cursive dirge
they usually do that prior to official launch
really?
I've seen releases there before official launch
maybe it's just my memory playing tricks on me
silent drum
4.12 and 4.13 in proper release form took about a day to hit GitHub IIRC
tall pendant
yay for color grading controls!
silent drum
I guess it varies from release to release
Oh yeah, I just remembered it's hotfixes that usually arrive on GitHub late
My memory is the one who's playing tricks lol
kindred marlin
Anyone know of how to diagnose a memory leak when you stop the game in the editor? It ws fine while running, but as soon as I stop it shoots from ~2gb of RAM to maxing out.
kindred mountain
circular references causing the GC to spaz out?
kindred marlin
Must be, but I compared the blueprint using the same exact plugin in another project and it doesn't leak. I even made sure my code was the same. ๐
I routed around the plugin and it works fine without leaking, now I just have to figure out why it is being stupid.
gloomy apex
So, I have an idea about a game mechanic that i want to make for a project of mine for portfolio for GD university. And everything I come up i have to learn about and stuff, im very limited that way because i dont know what i can or cant do. Anyway I want , for example to have a gun that shoots, lets say arrow, when they hit something( a wall or floor) white color starts spreading radially from the inpact point. And whatever get colored white, has no collision
now I learned that i have to build walls and floors from small blocks, so i can control collision, but i am wondering how to do the effect itself. I already did a simple gun that applys a decal, but that looks shit
versed pawn
Good news
kindred viper
god I hate that. It's a tagged release. Which means I can't get it directly from Github for windows. They really need to fix that issue
cursive dirge
they tag all releases
it's here too
but for some reason it's not on https://github.com/EpicGames/UnrealEngine/tree/4.15
kindred viper
yeah its annoying somewhat. I mean once you are aware of it, you just get it direct from the site but when you want to update within the client it can bork your setup
cursive dirge
yeah, it's bit stupid
not as stupid as their bulk commits
where you have like 40k files changed in single commit
versed pawn
Wow, that was unexpected
kindred viper
something I found odd about Perforce is I can't seem to find a way to do Pull requests. All my commits are directly into the depot. Not sure why
cursive dirge
gl finding out what broke your thing with that
sturdy turtle
blissful reef
just you
cloud cobalt
Oh hi @blissful reef ! Nice work on the widget blur
blissful reef
Ill take all the credit even though it was MattK
cloud cobalt
Thank him then ! ๐
main cobalt
There are a lot of people trying to become game developers without thinking about anything that goes into developing games
Eg. People on the unreal forums with "I like x mechanic from x AAA game is there a tutorial to make that thx"
I don't get it
cursive dirge
@main cobalt you cant find those tutorials?
Btw, this is more of a topic for #lounge
vale osprey
time to update!
thorn forum
Yeah, the UI Blur Rects and Cooking Blueprints to C++ are awesome features
anyone has experience with JSON Query ? Is it reasonable easy to read and write data sets ? I am trying to create a survey in UE
vale osprey
Want to try full nativzation, previously it would just fail on MMT
past pilot
im curious about this cooking blueprints to c++, would be nice if you dont understand a section of c++ but know how to do it in blueprint being able to see roughly how its done.
vale osprey
I don't think it's human readable, easier to find specific node implementation in the source
past pilot
oh, so it just takes blueprint overhead off in an unformatted easy to read way then
vale osprey
from what I understood yes, it's still not as optimal as hand made c++ for the same reason
past pilot
ive been doing prototype in blueprint and then trying to do c++ version to replace it when i know what i want it to do and how, was hoping this would help with that ๐ฆ
vale osprey
it helps greatly, working like that myself
worst case scenario you can look at implementation of the specific BP node in the source of the engine. Overall its not too difficult to just find things by wiki search or asking here
past pilot
i just hope they fixed crap like BP debugging being broken. I get issues where dedicated server wont have instances listed, client wont have any listed and all worlds has a bunch listed yet none are server lol. its completely random too. it will work fine then get progressively worse lol.
kindred viper
I avoid blueprint debugging when possible. It's only good for a "top layer" debug approach. If you need to get into the real nuts and bolts, it saves tonnes of time to use the debug symbols and VS2015
unreal harness
I need to know how to animate. NOW!
I'm fucking pissed because everything on fucking youtube is about the unreal engine when it's completely different from unreal editor!
safe rose
Cool Story Bro
The engine changes every few months
You can't expect people to constantly update their YT vids
cursive dirge
I hate it when unreal engine is all different than the editor
cursive dirge
well
cursive dirge
you shouldn't
upper heart
lol
safe rose
Are you talking about Persona?
Making small edits?
Or what the hell are you talking about?
unreal harness
Animation.
cursive dirge
guy wants to animate in editor
safe rose
Animation...
cursive dirge
just let him
safe rose
Yes...
upper heart
hrm a bunch of my materials look different in 4.15, can someone else test this out for me? should take 2 secs
safe rose
What about it?
upper heart
cursive dirge
@upper heart new tonemapper
upper heart
super orange
cursive dirge
yes
safe rose
Yeah TONE MAPPER
cursive dirge
people complained about that
safe rose
is the best
cursive dirge
it's "By Design"
unreal harness
GUYS!
safe rose
"TRUE PBR"
upper heart
sigh
safe rose
GUYS
cursive dirge
@upper heart you can use the old one
safe rose
@unreal harness Seriously, what are you asking for?
cursive dirge
it's one console command away
unreal harness
How do I import something from the unreal engine into unreal tournament editor?
Like animation!
unreal harness
I DID! They know JACK SHIT!
safe rose
But thanks for clarifying wtf you wanted
vale osprey
something didn't nativized well ๐
safe rose
Yeah, well, I doubt we'll do any better
unreal harness
Has NOBODY done it?
safe rose
99% of us don't mess with UT
unreal harness
Well I want to to make the game better!
cursive dirge
@upper heart ```The Film Tonemapper (r.TonemapperFilm=1) and DBuffer Decal (r.DBuffer=1) support have been enabled by default for new projects.
These settings can be reverted via project settings and the related cvars.
Bloom defaults have also been tweaked to match the new look. ```
@upper heart just use 0 for old one
safe rose
@unreal harness Then apply at Epic
upper heart
@cursive dirge r.TonemapperFilm=0 this guy?
safe rose
@upper heart yes
cursive dirge
yeah
upper heart
okay cool, I'll try that out
unreal harness
Will they expect me to know everything from the get go?
fierce tulip
@upper heart nontheless the bloom behaves differently as well
cursive dirge
@unreal harness they need to be impressed :p
fierce tulip
so even reverting it wont make stuff look exactly the same
(also, next time read changelog)
unreal harness
Well I know nothing then!
unreal harness
YES!
safe rose
Cool
cursive dirge
@safe rose like he'd admit he's trolling even if he was ;D
vale osprey
@cursive dirge with Nativization I can spawn twice as many BP tanks than before
unreal harness
I'm not!
safe rose
Nice
cursive dirge
@vale osprey because it doesn't do half the physics?
unreal harness
You guys are the professionals, are you not?
vale osprey
potentiall ๐
cursive dirge
I think his tanks are bit too hippy
cursive dirge
I mean, they are meant to deal some damage
but none of them have functional firepower
cursive dirge
it's all peace and love kind of thing now
vale osprey
without nativization its compiled correctly, weird
upper heart
okay, I guess I need to go read up on the new tonemapper
cursive dirge
sorry, I shouldn't start trolling on this channel
that's what #lounge is for
look at those images ๐
that's take some time to get used to
that bloom doesn't work like it used to
this pic ๐
vale osprey
aweful
upper heart
๐ฑ
vale osprey
nahh, it's just some small bug somewhere