I don't know. When I tried again after 7 hrs, it accepted it @merry field.
#fab
unborn dirge
stiff pond
Hmm.. Does saving do nothing with a new asset submission?
I wanted to save as a draft (and I thought it did save) but then I looked and there's nothing in my product list for drafts.
I just wanted to type it all up and save it to proofread again later.
gaunt flicker
delicate dove
lol militaty weapons
graceful arrow
Weapons that are small and in disrepair, obviously.
wooden falcon
maybe it's a potato military? a militaty?
merry field
Wouldn't that be a Militato?
gaunt flicker
Anyone know of a good cheap pack that has a UE4 skeleton Turn in Place anim
I don't need a turn in place system
just a fuckin anim
gaunt flicker
oh man
for this ggj im jamming on something for myself to learn
but I wanted to also partially recreate the gas station from the new re2 opening
there is a marketplace asset called Atmospheric Gas Station
is perfect
okay maybe not perfect, but close
gaunt flicker
I need a main menu + session browser
why don't these marketplace menus have session browsers
modern perch
'cos 99% of them weren't made to be used in a game, ergo tend to have things that games want missing
quaint cedar
@gaunt flicker There is this Open World Anim Set
Not 100% sure if it has one, but it had a lot of anims and wasn't that pricy
Or at least I think it wasn't that pricy
I can't remember and don't want to logout atm
modern perch
after the most recent Filmstorm debacle, I'm not inclined to give them any business
though doesn't the free UE4 anim pack have something basic?
it would surprise me if that isn't the case for a 'shooter starter pack' or whatever they called it
quaint cedar
Seems like I missed the debacle
modern perch
basically someone posted a comment they didn't like on one of their threads, so they reported it. There was nothing wrong with the comment, so we let it be.
...so they reported it again, and created a sock puppet account to report it a third time. We let the original post be and said that we wouldn't be deleting criticism
...so they created tens of sock puppet accounts to report everything that user had posted. We told them to knock it off.
...so said sock puppet accounts start reporting random posts by random users.
It was infuriating
I asked for someone from Epic to intervene but that never happened either :/
I would have liked to have banned them and removed their products from the store, personally
oak fiber
Not sure I would ban their products considering it was the person not the products being a dillhole
But I would definitely remove their ability to comment on anything ever again
delicate dove
marketplace eula thingy requires the account selling the content to behave in a professional manner though.
which is why it can be smart to have a personal/private account along the one you use to sell stuff with.
modern perch
given that the review / criticism posted was about the user's prior behaviour too, well
tender flame
If they are using this tactic, i wonder how many of the comments on their products are legit?
modern perch
I have also brought that into question
modern perch
that is literally not the thing that's done here, because you're describing piracy.
tropic kraken
okay, sorry about that. will remove the message then
graceful arrow
The dynamic water is very nice, but it's not marketplace stuff.
agile shadow
I think it totally is marketplace stuff
quaint cedar
@modern perch Alright. But well I already got the back quite some time ago. Didn't notice it.
crisp garden
Anyone else having trouble accessing content on the marketplace? Both on the website & in the epic launcher adding stuff to the cart doesn't work & when I click on an item the average rating it's loading, so wondering if their backend is down or something
merry field
Doesn't seem to be working quite right for me either
Maybe the servers are overloaded by all the people rushing to buy Metro Exodus
crisp garden
Thanks for confirming it's not just me ๐
Their status page says everything is operational
rare lynx
I've been having that issue the last few days, where comments, product rating and supported engine versions don't show up
tardy orbit
looks like there are marketplace troubles again
tiny heron
https://downdetector.com they are having issues
tardy orbit
damn
modern perch
The product is his animations:
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/open-world-animset
all other threads appear to have been deleted by Epic
wooden falcon
hmm...are there some packs missing from the permanent collection?
modern perch
not sure, which do you feel might be missing?
wooden falcon
there were a few that popped up after the initial release...some weapons
this one was one I think: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/military-character-silver
valid dove
Don`t know if Iยดm in the right section, but Iยดm currently looking for a character customization System (like UMA on Unity) for an RPG-Like system. Anyone knows a good system, which can be bought currently and is powerful enough?
merry field
@wooden falcon I don't recall seeing characters free, other than those animals
wooden falcon
:/
well, they're in my vault, and I sure as hell didn't buy them
there were a couple of guns too
pliant forum
They were indeed a part of the collection, I remember getting them. So I guess things won't necessarily be "permanent" in that collection.
delicate dove
modern perch
looks like the one on the right was discontinued and replaced with the one on the left?
the fact that they're both labelled as 'parts' would indicat something like that
delicate dove
sometimes the buy now stuff doesnt show up until refresh
modern perch
I've spotted marketplace sellers changing their names etc before to dodge things like negative reviews :/
weird
delicate dove
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/modular-scifi-engineer-hallways
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/modular-sci-fi-environment-f
modern perch
one shows up as ยฃ55, the other ยฃ5 :/
delicate dove
yea
modern perch
looking more closely, these look like different assets by different authors
the ยฃ55 one, if you look at the youtube video previews, is way, way higher quality
if I were the first guy I would be having words with Epic about them allowing the second one
delicate dove
same
modern perch
This is clear brand confusion :/
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/Jonathon+Frederick
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/Crebotoly
delicate dove
cc: @idle arch just to look into it I guess
idle arch
I'll take a look
wooden falcon
yah, the quality one is by SE_JonF
who is on this Discord
makes really good stuff...the other one looks like they are completely aping his style (and naming convention...and detail text...)
and REALLY undercutting his price
now I remember why I haven't bothered to put stuff on sale in a few months
summer jacinth
I had someone do the same thing to me in the past
Even used the exact same name as my asset, and used the same formatting and everything for the text + images
wooden falcon
:/
I wish that sellers could see a calendar of seller initiated sales...don't need to know who is on sale, but knowing that you're asking for a sale in a week with 13 pages of other packs would be good to know :/
delicate dove
or if you are competing with same asset :p
delicate dove
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/3d-scanned-venice-north-of-italy-assets-full-pack
dafuq, this looks so much like an old udk/ut2k4 project
as in, there is a venice project for udk/ut2k4
sadly that stuff is so old google doesnt give any proper hitsabout it
wooden falcon
that is not the most flattering pic
when you have vis errors in the pic, you're doing it wrong
gaunt flicker
Has anyone bought and used https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/factions-extension and have any opinions on it?
delicate dove
@sand ruin please remove the caps
lone mountain
@gaunt flicker isn't that free?
yeah
Anyway, I haven't used it. But off-hand, seems simple and light. Nothing you couldn't do without the plugin though.
But also, I think that's the point. You could spend an hour or so creating something like this, or grabbing it for free and saving yourself some time
gaunt flicker
yeah looking at it as a time saver only
sand ruin
@delicate dove I was hype. Given I don't see the post anymore, I assume its been deleted. I don't intend on reposting it.
rare lynx
@delicate dove @modern perch whoa didnt' expect to find this when I woke up lol. I showed that image elsewhere but wasn't sure if there was anything I could do about that. Though I am a little concerned that on initial look you were confused and thought I was in fact that seller. In that case hopefully Epic does something about this since clearly I'm not, and I wouldn't want others thinking the same. @idle arch
rare lynx
The description was essentially copied and pasted from one of my products. The underlined portions showcase that. Apparently it's causing confusion over my asset collection and this other gentleman's, which I would like to avoid.
My scifi assets are branded Modular SciFi Series, and I have an Engineering Collection so when they copy and paste that exact verbiage from the description and just add a letter after it, it's suggesting it's part of the same collection
wooden falcon
I mean, if the guy copies text from other people's pages, you might want to look into whether his meshes are even original
he could be passing off someone else's work
rare lynx
That'd be even more worrisome
Especially if that's the case, and someone thinks there's a possibility that this seller is me
rare lynx
Ok will do, thanks!
covert furnace
I always felt that this was a bit confusing:
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/voxel-plugin
https://voxelplugin.com/
Albeit they don't sell directly on the marketplace but it would be easy to make the mistake.
tawny minnow
@wooden falcon a few months back we (some fellow creators and me) came across a "creator"who was selling slightly modified models from turbosquid and evermotion. Same models slightly different textures. Can't find him on the marketplace anymore.
As for @rare lynx assets, I don't believe one can confuse his work with someone else's, the style and quality of his work are of pretty high quality. Besides copying Jonathon's text and product naming what worries me are the ridiculously low prices and the trend it sets.
delicate dove
"You will reasonably cooperate with and assist Epic in such enforcement activities. Such enforcement activities may include sending cease and desist notices to suspected infringers of your rights in the Content, issuing takedown notices to service providers pursuant to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, and pursuing such other enforcement actions as Epic may deem appropriate. However, Epic will not file any lawsuit or other formal action against a suspected infringer in a court or with any other governmental authority on behalf of you without first consulting with and obtaining your approval. Unless otherwise agreed by the Parties, (i) you will have no obligation to reimburse Epic for its costs and expenses incurred in such enforcement activities, and (ii) if Epic recovers any royalties or other damages in connection with such enforcement action on behalf of you, Epic may retain twelve percent (12%) of such amounts, after recoupment of legal costs and expenses, in consideration of its enforcement efforts, and will remit the remainder to you."
I cant recall this being here when the mp eula was just made.
delicate dove
i kinda want to see that happen now, regardless if my content is involved or not
tawny minnow
I read that part the other day and I felt it was contradicting itself. On one hand Epic will protect your rights, but it won't do anything essential about it. Did I interpret it wrong?
wooden falcon
I didn't read that in it
it just said that they won't do anything like file a lawsuit, UNLESS they get your approval first
but I doubt you'll see very many lawsuites for this sort of thing
delicate dove
hug
idle arch
Catching up now, ya'lls!
modern perch
ta
tawny minnow
Evening everyone ๐
wooden falcon
hello!
rare lynx
Just to follow up with everyone who may be interested re: the copied text, Epic has informed me they are handling the situation. Thank you all for your support, and the MP staff for taking swift action. ๐
timber dragon
Is there going to be more free assets in a few hours?
narrow wave
Huh, I thought it updated the free assets exactly at midnight eastern. Didn't this time ๐ค
Well, last time I checked it updated the free for the month section, but they weren't free until sometime later that day
Maybe they're avoiding that this time?
agile shadow
hmm they're sure taking their time today
narrow wave
I don't know what time of day they make the post about it, but for two of the three previous ones the first comment was a few minutes before 11 am, so hopefully within the next hour and a half ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
delicate dove
hey a particle toolkit
merry field
Some Luos particles in there
None of the rest looks particularly interesting (to me, at least)
narrow wave
looks like two more added to the permanent collection
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/particles-and-wind-control-system
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/a5b6a73fea5340bda9b8ac33d877c9e2
delicate dove
oh i wanted that control system
pliant forum
I had it on wish list! Nice!
narrow wave
For some reason I'm seeing December's free assets in the free for the month section in the launcher...
narrow wave
Hard restarting the launcher fixed it
pliant forum
Wait, is the Texture kit just a sample collection? I thought monthly rotation content was only for full products?
narrow wave
The Hand Painted Textures Starter Kit says it's normal price is $14.99 and is larger than other packs by that same person, so it seems like a full product to me
pliant forum
I don't have any of his other products, but the description is hinting at samples for sure.
wooden falcon
it's lame when they allow sample packs in the free collection :/
and why does that guy need to offer a sample pack, he has a million packs that look the same
grats on the pack Luos!
agile shadow
I'm kind of worried on the amount of tickets that I'll have to handle because of the promotion
not sure how many people will download though
wooden falcon
which is yours?
agile shadow
the 2d kit
wooden falcon
mines been downloaded about 30k times since nov...I've had 1 email
and a few comments, but not usually asking for support
but mine is just a mat pack
pliant forum
99% of the downloads is probably "For later Usage" ๐
wooden falcon
yup
agile shadow
let's hope so
wooden falcon
hoarders
I wouldn't worry about it
I mean, your pack already has a shit-ton of good ratings
and looks pretty sweet
tawny minnow
Hey boshytime which one is yours ? And grats ๐
tawny minnow
Sweet
wooden falcon
agile shadow
yes
wooden falcon
oh man, there's gonna be a surge of 2d games on Steam ๐
agile shadow
I'm actually really glad the CCG toolkit is free. Actually wanted to buy it soon to get some inspiration for a potential prototype
wooden falcon
I love the artwork in yours
agile shadow
there were a few attempts
there was a guy 2 years ago
made a steam account with my name
modern perch
I have the CCG toolkit, but I don't rate it
agile shadow
and just uploaded the project
modern perch
it's great if you want to make an MTG clone, but it's otherwise pretty inflexible
agile shadow
to steam greenlight
agile shadow
I found it funny
I reported him and it got taken down but still
Well for the CCG kit i'm only interested in the actual card interaction
dragging and dropping
Since I'm really bad at UMG
modern perch
IIRC it isn't UMG
agile shadow
well that sucks
vapid tundra
nice! now we will fanally see more 3rd person shooters with scifi levels on steam 
agile shadow
:))
merry field
Oh, I missed the sci-fi stuff, that looks cool as well
narrow wave
I can finally fulfill my dream of creating an even harder game than I Wanna Be the Boshy
merry field
Though with packs like that, I'd imagine a lot of the assets are too recognisable
delicate dove
change shaders, lighting, think outside the box when using it. win
narrow wave
There needs to be an "I Wanna Be the ___" game jam
agile shadow
yea it seems like super hard fan games have kind of died down in the past years
vapid tundra
change shaders, lighting, think outside the box when using it too much effort, too hard for the avg steam direct game @delicate dove
delicate dove
lol
narrow wave
Having added all free assets to my vault just to have them there (including all free plugins and stuff) it really hurts my head to look at....
agile shadow
@delicate dove Nice particles. What do you make them in? Just the unreal particle editor? Or do you use Houdini or other software as well?
delicate dove
photoshop, knald, b2m, glueIt, max, 3dcoat, zbrush, ipackthat, krita, inkscape
though, i'd suggest others to look into houdini, photoshop, substance
i should do too <_< hopefully this year I can migrate and not feel like 3dsmax stockholm syndrome getting to me again
gleaming elbow
Does anyone know if the ue4 protostar demo project can be downloaded?
tawny minnow
@gleaming elbow Don't believe so. Unless I missed it. I'm sure Epic would have made some kind of announcment if it was to become available.
gleaming elbow
arf, a shame would have been quite interesting to look into it.
tawny minnow
You could always try the Zen garden unless you want to look into Vulkan in particular.
lone mountain
@agile shadow Make it better now that's it free for the month ๐
As for ticket increase
I'm sure the Forknife money you got from this deal helps ease your pains a bit
cobalt crescent
is it true epic pays you in vbucks?
delicate dove
hehe, yes :p
timber dragon
I'm so glad the Sci Fi level builder is free.
timber dragon
Well... RIP my wallet now.
grizzled thunder
@delicate dove Congrats on the free content! nicely done ๐
calm wagon
Hello, just had a quick question. If I buy something from the Unreal Store, am I free to use it in a commercial project or will the owner have the right on some of the revenue I get from that project?
quaint cedar
Free to use it
merry field
Free to use it, so long a the commercial project is made in UE4
calm wagon
No limitation of any kind?
candid rivet
if you use the marketplace assets in another engine like unity, i believe the engine royalty costs still apply as assets are still considered unreal tech.....that's what i was told at one point
calm wagon
Thanks!
candid rivet
that faq doesn't mention royalties in other engines...is that a myth?
wooden falcon
there's no royalties
if you use ue4, the engine, commercially, then you need to look into royalties you might have to pay to Epic
and like the faq says, you can't use Epic's stuff in other engines
here's the million dollar question...do they count permanent collection free packs as their stuff, since they technically own them?
quaint cedar
I don't think they actually own them
merry field
Oh, I am ignorant
Thanks for clarifying that, I thought you weren't allowed to use any Marketplace item in other engines
wooden falcon
nah, they've allowed that since the beginning
merry field
I thought there was something about having to pay Epic the 5% if you did it
Can't remember where I read that
Ah, an old quote of the usage rights: "Only Marketplace products that have not been created by Epic Games can be used in other engines. Be sure to provide appropriate credit and pay any royalties that may accrue"
candid rivet
ya the 5% to use assets in other engines i thought came from an official source, i remember asking about it because i wanted to purchase an asset pack and use it in my custom engine, i didn't because i was told i would still have to pay the 5%
delicate dove
2019-02-01 Luos's Particle Toolkit Vol. 1 Net units: 4857
wonder how drastically that would drop if it was 1 or 2 dollar :p
merry field
That must make graphs look fun
snow mirage
Can't seem to open the free particle pack from @delicate dove , getting an engine crash each time
slim flax
@modern perch The seller's profile page seems fishy... Look above the negative comments, it feels like being spammed by same person with different accounts to praise the seller right after. The reply on it as well. https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/Filmstorm
modern perch
yeah, a number of those comments are super fishy
delicate dove
@snow mirage what ue4 version?
lunar fractal
@delicate dove 4.21.1 source engine (same message in #engine-source ) ๐
delicate dove
hmm, ill download the pack for that version and see whats up.
might take a while though
@lunar fractal @snow mirage the pack on my computer loads on 4.21.2 any idea what specific shader might be causing issues?
lunar fractal
no, just spotted the version in the other channel. Not related to the problem myself
delicate dove
ahh allright, thanks
both my local version and the version downloaded trough launcher work for me in 4.21.2 :/
@snow mirage
faint ridge
it's working for me too on 4.21.2
daring raven
can plugins be distributed with example maps? Having to download an example map off of someone's google drive has always seemed a little sketchy
quaint cedar
@idle arch Is piracy@unrealengine.com still the one to go for in terms of piracy?
Or marketplace-support?
idle arch
If it is related to Marketplace support - use that channel
snow mirage
I'm using the github source build, not the launcher build. I rebuilt the engine last night so will test it now once it loads everything
Medieval Dungeon was also crashing with the same error
nope still getting the same crash.
might be my project is broken actually, let me just try a new fresh project
okay it loads fine, so it must be my main project thats broken. Any idea how to fix an error like this? I'm thinking I should just make a new project and migrate everything
delicate dove
you might want to try answerhub?
someone else (unless thats you) was posting same issue on facebook
delicate dove
hehe I was in instant panic mode for a bit though, if suddenly 4k people who downloaded it all go "its not working!" I'd be rather upset hehe
snow mirage
lmao yeah. not your asset at all. probably an engine bug somewhere
gaunt flicker
lilac heath
@delicate dove do I see that right? You have had 4000+ downloads today ? That's insane even if it's free . Congratulations
lunar fractal
Yeah, interested to see what influence it will have on the number of ratings
delicate dove
@lilac heath it gets more insane
https://i.gyazo.com/51b914b7874c6cabdb5ae77fed4c5e9a.png
zealous ibex
๐ฎ Nice work man, and congrats ๐
delicate dove
cool to see that many people active for sure
kinda shows this discord channel is only a very tiny blip of ue4 users
lunar fractal
delicate dove
went from 62 rating to 72
lunar fractal
haha 10k to 10 ๐
delicate dove
:p
zealous ibex
Nice, I guess that makes for a review ratio of 1 review : 1k "purchases" ๐ I guess it can only really improve over time though
lunar fractal
Yeah and a lot of feedback and publicity anyway
delicate dove
if that was true, then the previous 62k people who ppurchased it.. kinda still need to pay me
yea, I do hope the sale for most other of my packs will improve. though doubt it
will see in a few more days when it starts
lilac heath
@delicate dove wow. That is an insane amount of downloads.
tame wasp
I'm thinking about releasing a BP system in the marketplace, can I use the free infinity blade particles for my particle systems?
lucid osprey
marketplace is broken
like
you can click the description of items
and no links work inside them either
stupid launcher
tame wasp
you'll have to open the asset on the browser to grab the link, it's really annoying though
It must hurt a lot of peoples sales when their YT link is broken
tame wasp
what are your thoughts on requesting reviews for bonus marketplace item content? For example let's say I create a projectile system and suggest after 10 reviews I'll add extra meshes
I thinking in terms of Patreons goal structure
delicate dove
one hand it feels like cheating the system, and people can complain you are holding back"dlc" for sake of reviews.
Other hand its a good way to get reviews.
third hand is, i dont want to be bothered by having to re-download a pack over and over, especially since I tend to modify its location, shaders, or other content.
merry field
It depends on if you have those meshes already
A more fair thing would be "if a lot of people like this, I will work on it some more, otherwise I will work on something else"
gaunt flicker
Promise nothing
quaint cedar
@tame wasp About using Epic's content in your pack: We had this discussion a long while ago and back then you could use it, as long as it's not the center of your project.
However that was about ContentExamples etc. stuff. I'm not sure Epic's free Marketplace packs are allowed, because technically you'd work around their limitation of it only being allowed in UE4 projects. If someone buys your pack, the limitations of using the particle only in UE4 would be gone.
agile shadow
@delicate dove got similar number of downloads as well.It's really crazy
I did see an improvement over people buying my companion pixel art tileset though
though not as many as I would have wanted
void prawn
Reagarding content, I feel its hard to know if you get whats displayed or not
Thats probably my biggest reason for not buying alot of things
If it was possible to "try" them, I think that would make it easier to see if its what you want or not ...
quaint cedar
Well it is possible if the dev gives you a packaged build
void prawn
Yeah but then you couldnt test how compatible or anything it would be to your current setup or project
But i guess that's beside the point
tame wasp
Thanks for the responses
lean venture
@void prawn It's technically possible to "try" plugins in an unpackaged build, without access to the source. That's what I'm working on for my plugins. No technical way for BPs, though.
void prawn
Dunno how one even could solve it in bps. Scramble them or something maybe?
lean venture
You can't. You can cook the BPs for a particular project and sort of load them like mods. But if you don't cook them, you're basically distributing the source.
And the problem with plugins is that, even without source, the engine would still load the binaries. So you need to modify your source to include verifications in the form "if the project loading this plugin is not MY project, fata crash".
grizzled thunder
@delicate dove Must be crazy to see those download numbers. Imagine if they all gave you a dollar xD
grizzled thunder
I'll give youa +1 and a review when i get a mo
delicate dove
hehe
void prawn
A dollar would still be a steal
would generate some monitas :p doubt epic pays that amount ๐
delicate dove
i wish hehe
grizzled thunder
$7.5k isnt it?
nice bonus
but les than a dollar at those numbers ๐
Have you got a running total @delicate dove
delicate dove
almost 15k downloads. wich would come down to almost 600.000 dollar
hehe when you look at that, 7500 sounds like piss all hehe.
but, I bet most of those people wouldnt buy it, perhaps not even for a dallar
*dollar
void prawn
yeah free is still free
even people who dont care pick things up if they're free
atleast for now
altho its becoming quite troublesome to manage the library with the terrible structure of it
delicate dove
yuuup
nocturne scaffold
i with the library would allow us to organize our assets
such as folders.
or book shelves if you will. :p
delicate dove
one day
grizzled thunder
Yes, my library is getting pretty messy at this rate
vivid tide
Published a new free plugin my peeps:
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/export-png
Drove me nuts that you can't export PNG / single-channel textures from content browser.
tawny minnow
@vivid tide Sweet
Btw my assets are on sale until February 15. So, if you need some decals for your scenes drop by and have a look. ๐
topaz pivot
@vivid tide very handy, thanks a lot !
delicate dove
ooh saweet
@vivid tide any reason why you target 4.21 only?
generally its wise to move back a few versions for sales, but since its free
wooden falcon
I think with plugins, they only let you do two back, no?
zealous ibex
^ You only get to support the latest 3 versions to my knowledge
wooden falcon
so even if you had a 4.16 that was working just fine, they don't let you offer that one anymore?
zealous ibex
To my knowledge, yes. It is even more annoying when the 4.16 version you have up has a bug though ๐
wooden falcon
oh, but it can still be downloaded? They just won't let you update it?
drowsy jasper
Here is an idea for the Marketplace asset - split screen multiplayer stuff that can be configured from Blueprints. I'd buy that.
modern perch
can that not already be done in BP?
wooden falcon
that would be fun
graceful arrow
There is BP only multiplayer split screen stuff in the marketplace
or at least there was
wooden falcon
I like that lava ๐
lucid osprey
its just a test level ๐
your materials are pretty useful
just wish you had called your variable names better XD
wooden falcon
sorry, I always struggle with those, lol
lucid osprey
๐
wooden falcon
I oftentimes call something glossiness when it should be roughness, etc.
lucid osprey
or shiny...
lucid osprey
is awesomne
wooden falcon
thanks, I appreciate it ๐
wooden falcon
hope you find it useful in your projects
and if you like it, my second mat pack is better ๐ at least in my opinion...has a bunch of vertex paintable stuff
wooden falcon
hehe
yah, got the lava, blood, water
I need to go back and add a world oriented option on those ones, though
lucid osprey
and while you there, add speed variables for the animated stuff
panner, append constant
wooden falcon
yah, I'm not sure how I missed that
lucid osprey
yee its pretty annoy ๐
wooden falcon
someone asked about it in the pack comments once, and I was like "wtf, I didn't have that?"
lucid osprey
๐
daring raven
@modern perch there are a few missing levers in blueprints, the one that comes to mind is switching between splitscreen and singlescreen local multi
vivid tide
@junior smelt source is included with the plugin
@delicate dove I just haven't got any other version installed atm. Should be pretty easy to make it work on prior versions, I'll get round to that eventually.
Anything you get from Marketplace uses the marketplace EULA no?
Yes you can - you just can't redistribute it
zealous ibex
^ That (in reply to TheJamsh), and other than third party libraries, including your own license is disallowed
vivid tide
I include the source code for all my plugins, for convenience or for API purposes - but not so people can redistribute it.
And yeah, HTC raises a point - you can't append your own licenses to stuff you put on marketplace
Because if you're working from engine source you have to compile the plugin yourself
If you don't include source code for the plugin then end users can only use it with launcher versions of the engine
Also, putting the code on github means I have to maintain it there too - and I can't be bothered to deal with that ๐
Just easier to distribute though marketplace
delicate dove
@vivid tide I'd appreciate it, as most clients are around 4.16-4.19 atm :p
delicate dove
constant upgrading is more work for them though :p
merry field
I always upgrade to new versions whenever I come out
but I guess I have the advantage that I'm not holding anyone but me up by doing so
... must admit that bits of C++ code love to break during upgrades, though
One advantage to using Blueprints
Plus, it feels appropriate for me to complain about people stuck in the past and not upgrading to the latest versions of software, while typing on my PC running Windows 7
lucid osprey
if someone really somehow stays 3 years on the same engine...
i mean
then they are either a big company
or fucking slow
merry field
It does annoy me when I have to spend half an hour picking at C++ code to get it to work
Mostly because it's always someone else's code and I'm not overly familiar with it
merry field
Seems that they like to re-jiggle the dependencies
So you need to pull in different libraries to make it work
Anyway, I learned my lesson, keep ancient versions of the engine installed in case I think of anything else to make for the Market
Though even with that, 4.16 is really old, pretty sure I came across things that were not supported / broken in that version
delicate dove
yea some things are.
generally I keep my vfx packs on 4.16 so I instantly have a whole array of versions I support. but there are a few things I need a higher version for, not to mention niagara
merry field
I've been vaguely curious how Blueprints would work with Copy from current version and Paste into old
Haven't felt crazy enough to try it yet
delicate dove
that blueprintpaste.com whatever website, would be cool if you could paste version 4.21, and convert to 4.16 or so.
<_< same with materials, but ill keep dreaming
lilac heath
If you know the old name of the BP you can paste to notepad , and replace ( some test and error though )
gaunt flicker
You know what really bugs me
When people release a new engine version of an asset
and they don't run the ResavePackages commandlet
holy fuck that shit slows down an engine more than molasses
pliant forum
Gave me a quick laugh ( I know making modular assets and reusing them isn't a sin, but out of 60 portraits he choose these as thumbnails)
delicate dove
lol
wooden falcon
that's his half brother :/
ebon leaf
hey is anyone in here from poland or knows someone from poland that is a marketplace seller? I can't find any info online on how to fill out the tax form when setting up as a seller :/
quaint cedar
Hiring a bookkeeper is a thing :P
delicate dove
you could politely ask @flat schooner but he is rather occupied a lot.
flat schooner
@ebon leaf sup?
ebon leaf
@flat schooner heyyy sorry to bother ya but any idea where to find information on how one should fill in the tax form thing when setting up as a unreal marketplace seller in poland?
tax form is not the right thing... uhh the whatever it is for taxes when setting up as a seller
percentages, vats and all that jazz
flat schooner
Well I establish my company so my accountant do that for me, but before I did that I paid taxes only once and I regoster it as "umowa o dzieลo"
but if you don't earn more than 1050 PLN per month you don't have too register it at all
ebon leaf
yes! I knew about that part and I'm hoping to not cross that amount so I don't have to deal with it but epic still requires you to fill in vat and other tax %. I really went deep into reseaching everything but all I get is conflicting info, some places state if you sell digital "goods" online its only 8% others 23% and I'm just confused... I can't afford an accountant to get it all done for me and the thought alone of filling something in wrong and having problems later makes me loose sleep :/
I thought about simply contacting epics support but I can't imagine them being any help in this regard... they will probably forward me to the same sources I've already went through
flat schooner
You don't pay VAT if you make deals with foreign countries, so you don't have ot bother about VAT at all, just type NIP where they ask you for VAT number
ebon leaf
now thats already way more information that I found online throughout the last 2 weeks, thank you so much! I'll research a little about it just to be perfectly sure and register
thanks for you time man
tawny minnow
@merry field The moment you paste it on the older version the editor crashes. I was crazy enough to try it a few months back. ๐ ๐
... and hey everyone ๐
delicate dove
hugs @tawny minnow
tawny minnow
@delicate dove hugs back ๐
lone mountain
Anyone know when the next MP sale is going to be?
merry field
I'd say not in the next month
rare lynx
Next one likely to be around summer I think. Used to be summer, fall and winter though IIRC we didn't have a winter sale in 2018.
lone mountain
Spring Cleaning Sale should happen
lilac heath
Looks like the marketplace team are getting more on top of there crazy workload. In under 12 hrs from submitting 2 packages rejected. While it makes me sad they were rejected, makes me more hope that the MP team are not as slammed.
Any one else noticed a difference in submission time these days?
delicate dove
@ebon leaf if it shows the end result it can be alright, but why not spend some time trying to solve it. maybe #blueprint can help.
delicate dove
around 18k downloads, only 20-ish ratings and 10-ish comments XD
void prawn
Did you expect more from me? ๐ I just grab it because its free ๐
havn't used a single thing i've grabbed for free,
altho i will look into your pack soon enough ๐
delicate dove
I think there might be quite a few digital hoarders who just went "ooh, free content for something called unreal engine? installs launcher"
void prawn
i'd probably do that for the games, if i didnt have it already ^^
The ratings goes to the specific product and not the creator doesnt it?
delicate dove
yup
void prawn
Couldnt that be a thing? Rating towards a creator. Along with sorting on it,
would make it easier to find content from good quality creators
separating the salt and pepper in there..
delicate dove
add it to the list of things we want but might not see in the upcoming years :p
void prawn
Hehe yeah theres plenty of things to want..
wooden falcon
I'm a digital Smaug
merry field
If it's free and there's even the smallest chance I might use it later, I'm hoarding it!
pliant forum
Supporting the latest 2 Engine versions should be a requirement on the marketplace
I never use the latest one, I always wait quite some time before jumping on to newer ones.
It would also boost sales I'd imagine
modern perch
I'm still in 4.19 for my most up to date project xD
pliant forum
For some of the content I got during a previous sale I was forced to jump to 4.20, was more than content with 4.19 :[
delicate dove
hence me always trying to go for 4.16 and up for now.
merry field
Why should it be a requirement, though?
The engines are not backwards compatible
Means that you have to use an old, buggy version of the engine to work on marketplace content, and if it's an actual mandated requirement, it would mean that you can't sell anything using new features until they're two versions old
(Of course, you have to use that old, buggy version anyway if you want to sell to those people who won't upgrade for whatever reason, but that's just to gain more potential sales, not a hard requirement)
delicate dove
as if the current version is soo much more stable.
and do you know how much it would cost in production to keep engine up to date and keep fixing issues?
While early in development updating isnt as much of a problem, try introducing a new engine version in the last few dev cycles.
many of the clients I worked with are still around 4.16-18
that said, when a mp pack uses a new feature, obviously they could be expelled from the minimum x versions support.
pliant forum
^ I couldn't have given a better answer myself
rain fossil
What's the deal with the Marketplace only accepting the latest three versions of Unreal for code plugins? It shows I have a 4.18, but I can't update it, so 4.18 people are just going to have to use an older version unless I send them new code myself?
merry field
4.16 is almost 2 years old by now though, that's not "last few dev cycles"
daring raven
even more reason for them to stay on 4.16 at this point ๐
modern perch
they're not likely to want code plugins at this point though :p
rain fossil
When 4.21 released, 4.18 was less than a year ago.
lone mountain
Damn, the market for firearms on the marketplace is blah
Especially ones that are broken down in pieces as static meshes
delicate dove
I just miscalculaed. 950k dollar of free particle packs given away so far.
north stirrup
950k what?
delicate dove
oh right
flat schooner
hey
does anyone have nice exel spreadsheet to manage sales reports?
to setup it in order to: type, date, sales, etc
quaint cedar
Can't you just export Epic's reports? @flat schooner
flat schooner
I can but I want to have nice macros to see in order of month, sales, quantity, frequency with charts and predicting trends ๐
But I guess I found a guy who can do it.
quaint cedar
:P Make sure that his work actually allows you to share it.
flat schooner
I never though about it, I guess I can do everything with it since I pay. It is custom, made for me.
quaint cedar
@flat schooner No, it's all based on the license they give you
quaint cedar
Don't think so?
You might want to check why that is the case :P
They already have an SDK For Unreal I think
north stirrup
Kinda related to this channel: https://medium.com/@shl/reflecting-on-my-failure-to-build-a-billion-dollar-company-b0c31d7db0e7
long sand
Why do they keep offering lower quality assets as sponsored content. I find it funny that my high rated, high downloaded, quality content never gets selected. It's content that actually helps people build games. Wouldn't that be the type of content they would want to sponsor?
@sleek egret ๐
rare lynx
I submitted about 3 times now, virtually all of my products excluding one of my bundles. It seems they're going for more stylized content I guess? I probably won't be participating again in the future.
As a developer though I would like to see more higher quality content as well. The free content rotation would have been a perfect venue to bring back the Trello voting we used to have way back at the start of the marketplace, to let the community decide what they'd like to see each month.
azure tundra
There has only been what like 15-20? free assets out of so many and you find all of them low quality too? Stop being so entitled.
quaint cedar
Hm, the marketplace page seems to duplicate entries when auto extending the list
Is that known? (Barely use the marketplace)
modern perch
I recall it's been brought up before
tawny minnow
Hey ๐ How do I go about releasing a free asset pack on the marketplace?
delicate dove
monthly free? permanently free? or just a random free pack?
tawny minnow
Just a normal free asset pack.
delicate dove
I think you might need to contact mp with that request, and showing the content. generally they only allow select things to be free (outside of the free monthly community stuff thing)
tawny minnow
Thanks I'll do that.
robust vector
Has anyone here purchased animations from InfectedFury? I'm wanting to confirm they are set up correctly. Not missing animation on IK bones, etc.
lone mountain
Out of curiosity. Who here has 250(or more) assets in their library/vault?
lunar fractal
Only half way ๐
lone mountain
@delicate dove You can see the free games in Launcher? EGS ones
delicate dove
never looked for em
I had show games disabled
dafuq, it never registered the free games
guess it did, just a mess to find out how
rare lynx
@azure tundra Not sure if that comment is directed towards me, or someone else but to clarify I am in no way saying they should have picked mine, nor did I say they were all low quality. Saying I'd like to see more higher quality content wasn't a dig at the previous releases. In fact a better choice of words probably would have been to say more realistic, as that's what I meant by that - note my reference to more stylized content being present.
That being said I do still think it'd be a great way to involve the community as a whole to adopt a similar approach to the trello voting system. Though at this point I'm aware it's unlikely to occur, especially with the sheer volume of submissions Epic must be receiving. ๐
north stirrup
@ebon leaf You upload a zip per engine version
timber dragon
Wish there was a way to sort by popular...
delicate dove
or, if nothing breaks, you can tick a box and it'll auto-update to the new version. but you need to test to be sure it doesnt break stuff
tawny minnow
@rare lynx Most people will probably go for the most expensive assets rather than the most useful ones.
Hey everyone ๐
north stirrup
You can look at what's already there @ebon leaf
Can help give you an idea of the price ranges ^
tawny minnow
Sales can not be derived by anything, especially not by the reviews a product has received.
Care to share with us what you want to sell, maybe we can help out?
Well pricing has proven to be a difficult riddle to solve. It all depends on what you believe about your product, if it is useful to devs, if it is in trend, etc etc. Unfortunately since we don't have any kind of sales statistics from Epic it is not easy to figure out how competitive asset packs perform.
If it is good , well made, well documented (if needed) and logically priced it will probably sell well. How well is really up to you to decide how many sales are considered a good performance.
green sinew
I guess I should share this here as well as WIP. A modular stone kit I'm working on and thinking of selling...ive never sold my work so ill most likely over think and over clean it up. Anyway...its getting close to done.
wooden falcon
looks good!
green sinew
Thank you!
uncut silo
Looks great, what program did you model/sculpt and texture these in?
flat schooner
I am working on marketplace report tool in Unreal Engine and I am gonna put in on Unreal Engine marketplace.
lilac heath
@junior smelt the editor for the store page doesn't always recognise Hrefs after you save them. And shows them as text when live. It does take a little fiddling to get it to show an actual link.
merry field
I think a better question is why the marketplace doesn't automatically parse links like every other system
timber dragon
Question, in your guy's opinion which asset is the most useful to you?
turbid pier
anyone got the link to the advanced locomotive v3 discord?
vapid tundra
the link is for customers only afaik. (it's part of the package you'll get)
turbid pier
i just want to see if i would be able to follow the set up instructions
im kinda new to ue4 but willing to learn, but this "you need GOOD UNDERSTANDING of the blueprints" turned me kinda off
vapid tundra
if you're pretty new to UE4 the locomotion thingy isn't exactly for you. It has parts which are involved.
turbid pier
is there no documentation or why?
vapid tundra
There is documentation. But you really should have some solid understanding of BP's etc if you want to work with it.
turbid pier
let me guess the documentation is only for customers? ๐
vapid tundra
Yep. Also part of the package hehe
merry field
@timber dragon I'd imagine that very much depends on the skillset of the person answering
Basically I'd imagine people would like things that they cannot easily make themselves
daring raven
@flat schooner wow that seems incredibly meta :p
flat schooner
@daring raven I am not sure what you mean by that, but thanks ๐
wooden falcon
it's like UE4 Inception
lone mountain
Someone release a UV Snapshot plugin
I'm actually surprised we can't do that yet in editor and/or someone hasn't made one yet
north stirrup
@flat schooner That's your stats?
lone mountain
Seems like ezmoney
north stirrup
UV Snapshot plugin 
lone mountain
@north stirrup You don't know what that is?
north stirrup
Yup
lone mountain
UV map, screenshot
(exported in whatever file format, pref png but jpeg works as well I suppose)
north stirrup
I don't get it
merry field
Wouldn't you export that from your 3D modelling program?
lone mountain
You can
but my point is
here
If you buy assets from Marketplace
Why do I want to waste more of my time to export the asset and then get the snapshot from Maya
Why can't I just export that damn picture which is already inside the editor directly from the editor
north stirrup
So basically u want
lone mountain
Yup
I want to be able to export the UVs directly from the editor
So I can use for whatever diabolical reason I need to
north stirrup
There are no tool to do that?
lone mountain
Not that I can find
Dunno, it's one of those ease of use things that I think could sell pretty well on the MP
summer jacinth
What would the use be?
It was probably never made because I cant see any use for it
lone mountain
Well my usecase would be custom masking
summer jacinth
But the straight UVs that unreal displays would be useless
lone mountain
...
summer jacinth
They are just wireframe
lone mountain
I would export the Color map as well ๐
summer jacinth
Im assuming you would want it to autofil the uv islands?
lone mountain
Well, that could be another thing the plugin could do
north stirrup
Half of the stuff they monitor is in the static mesh preview lol
lone mountain
Well, they spend quite a bit of time on revamping it every so often
So I'm not surprised
north stirrup
And yeah that plugin idea isn't a good idea
Too much work for not much as Shirk pointed out
daring raven
There are a lot of plugins for 5 minute jobs in external software though it seems ๐ค
Seems like an idea worth a dollar
modern perch
what in the heck
last mango
At least he will be back soon with his words of wisdom
lean venture
That guy deserves some thumbs up just for originality.
delicate dove
true XD
flat schooner
That's Kanye West, obviously.
wooden falcon
I feel like this is the beginning of the plot to National Treasure 3
opal garnet
I need an admin to PM me. I have some questions. Or someone who is an expert on the market place for content submission
delicate dove
admins have nothing to do with the marketplace
opal garnet
Ok then.
delicate dove
you can ask for advice in this channel though, if the ue4 marketplace submission guidelines arent enough
opal garnet
Well itโs more of a question of I only have models and I want them to work when I release them. (If I am able to release them)
delicate dove
you want them to work how? try to explain in-depth the problem/issues you are facing
or what worries you
opal garnet
Ok, if I release the product, I want them to work. Like there are some people saying that it doesnโt work with a certain version or there are missing things.
delicate dove
make sure you clean up redirectors, perhaps send the pack to a friend for them to test it.
opal garnet
Now the product Iโm wanting to releases has no animation or texture. Itโs just a base model
delicate dove
base models should probably be retargeted to ue4's mannequin unless its non-human, and in that case it def. needs its own skeleton and some anims
unless its a static object, and its hard to mess those up
delicate dove
make sure it snaps, should be enough
modern perch
I'm a little lost here - what part of 'not working' are you worried about?
it sounds like basic static mesh assets
opal garnet
Snaps. Gotcha Iโll try to make that happen lol
modern perch
if you're not confident releasing something that simple, I'd probably steer clear of the marketplace
opal garnet
Well the first one I do will be free just to make sure nothing goes wrong and just to see if I upload everything right
merry field
If you are just making asset content, e.g. models, textures
Then get the oldest version of UE4 that you can and build your content pack in that
That way, it will be compatible with all later versions
Go at least as far back as 4.16, if not earlier
tawny minnow
@wooden falcon True, asked about that a few days back.
rustic belfry
All great points given. You could also give a free "lite" version of your package to gauge reactions and gather good will for the launch. I know @delicate dove has done it before and many of us noticed and remembered. I've done it as well
If you go that route, post on the Community Content forums and advertise on social media
grizzled thunder
@rustic belfry what's the process for free lite content like you mentioned. Do you have to mail marketplace support beforehand?
tawny minnow
Hey guys ๐
Just a heads up. I've released an update for HG: Periodic Table Decals that doubles the content and it also includes a new material that lets you change the texture sizes via a variable.
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/hg-periodic-table-decals
Also all my assets are still on sale until the 15th. Cheers :)
delicate dove
modern perch
lol
delicate dove
its like games and putting review quotes in their trailer.
"its a great game" - ign
actual quote: "Its a great game, but filled with flaws"
delicate dove
they email you, asking which pack you want featured and you can pick one of your packs
void prawn
how is the mail reciever selected then? Random?
delicate dove
iunno, I kinda expect them having a list, and go trough a batch each month
void prawn
Ahh ๐ And here i thought epic was looking through content, suggesting (asking) stuff to be featured based on some quality/value /interest sort of thing
Seems like i really gotta turn down my expectations to things
grizzled thunder
@delicate dove it could also be that Enrico submitted for the featured marketplace item on the forum. Epic has to pick it to be featured, and you might not be picked
wooden falcon
always bursting bubbles Luos ๐
delicate dove
@grizzled thunder you get an email about requesting which pack you want to have in the featured rotation
grizzled thunder
Yeah, I got the email. I didnt know that submitting meant a guaranteed feature though?
delicate dove
it is, though it might be for a few weeks/month later
grizzled thunder
Burst all of our bubbles why dont you
merry field
๐ ๐
grizzled thunder
wooden falcon
guaranteed random feature for a short amount of time that most likely results in no sales
I don't even bother registering for it anymore
we're posting smurfs now?
grizzled thunder
I dislike this alternate timeline, wake me up when my childhood isnt being made into dodgy 3d... and Yoeri isnt shattering dreams
wooden falcon
I imagine in that gif, that Will is saying "Welcome to Smurf"
wooden falcon
oh man, I looked at my sales report and thought I had a sale
I was mistaken :/
was just a fly on my screen
grizzled thunder
link to your store?
grizzled thunder
@wooden falcon I like your descriptions ๐ Bone box looks cool
wooden falcon
hehe, thanks
lilac heath
@wooden falcon @opal garnet when I was putting my newest product on the MP there was an option now to post for free.
This is a new feature or a change from the last time
Can I ask for an opinion / suggestions, about an submitted asset here or is that in breach or the rukes.?
modern perch
free is a new thing, relatively speaking
and I don't see why you couldn't ask about assets here
lilac heath
There was a thing a while back about any thing not released was to be posted in "work in progress" but you never get feed back or suggestions. People only got to show there stuff ,but no one goes to look .
timber dragon
Is there a city builder anyone recommends?
tribal lotus
Can someone confirm a couple things pls? Marketplace assets I've paid for. I can use them commercially? I credit the original artist in the game? I can edit those assets?
north stirrup
Check the marketplace faq @tribal lotus
tawny minnow
@tribal lotus You can use them in any Unreal Engine 4 projects commercially or not, crediting the creator is always nice and yes you can edit the hell out of them. ๐
tribal lotus
Thanks guys.
merry field
You can also use them in other engines
modern perch
unless they're Epic assets
tawny minnow
@modern perch Oh, when did that change, because I remember seeing games released on steam and other stores using assets from Epic's Infiltrator demo.
tawny minnow
Well the game out here isn't from Epic or any affiliated companies as far as I know.
north stirrup
I remember seeing games released on steam and other stores using assets from Epic's Infiltrator demo. as long as they're made with UE4 it's fine
tawny minnow
Not according to ambershee. ๐
north stirrup
Well yes? ๐ค
tawny minnow
That's what I thought too. That it's ok as long it's made with UE4.
north stirrup
That's basically what ambershee said?
tawny minnow
Nope, he said you can't use assets created by Epic for commercial use.
Ahhhh shucks
north stirrup
hehe
tawny minnow
Yeap that's what he said must be the fatigue kicking in. ๐ฆ apologies
daring raven
plugin dependencies on the marketplace are still a big no-no, right?
tawny minnow
Hi! You mean releasing an asset that needs a plugin from another creator to work?
daring raven
yeah, but for my own plugin
I was thinking something like a Lite version that is the plugin and basic assets to start using it and a Full version that depends on the Lite version but has some fully developed assets using the plugin
if that makes sense ๐ค
tawny minnow
You could always bundle the plugin with the asset pack you want to release.
aaaahhhh ok
daring raven
obv. I could include the entirety of Lite in Full, but that might be seen as confusing
north stirrup
Having to download lite with full would be confusing too
tawny minnow
I don't believe so. If the assets are in the same location in the browser and you explain it very clearly in both asset packs, it shouldn't be that confusing.
daring raven
more of a thought experiment at this point since I'm still several months out from a release ๐
tawny minnow
People downloading the Full version wouldn't know the difference if you kept the file structure the same in both asset packs. I do the same with my bundles, exactly for that reason. ๐
daring raven
can you link an example?
@north stirrup yeah.. I'm thinking it might not be worth structuring a pack like that if the store doesn't explicitly support it.. having to detail anything in the description seems like I've already lost at that point
north stirrup
๐
tawny minnow
sure give me a sec
north stirrup
It's an asset pack or a plugin?
daring raven
in my case, plugin. another potential scenario is that there are two sub-packs with no relation other than using the core plugin (eg Traffic plugin core -- Semi truck pack and Complex Intersections pack ๐คท )
north stirrup
I just realized that having a lite and a full version of a plugin installed might create naming collisions
tawny minnow
Why?
tawny minnow
From what I gathered it would be the exact same plugin with the only difference being the 3D assets.
north stirrup
Was speaking more broadly, not specifically about PartlyAtomic plugin ๐
daring raven
if you did Full as a superset of Lite it would collide
although, can you deliver a C++ plugin AND assets via the same marketplace item??? I feel like all code plugins I've used had examples as a separate project :\
north stirrup
You can
But it might not be a good idea
As then those assets ends up in the final packaged game unless the user manually delete them
daring raven
that's a good point
automatically instanced meshes are in the engine now, maybe automatically referenced-only packaging will be next ๐
north stirrup
automatically instanced meshes wait what
automatically referenced-only packaging will never work
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Cuz C++ refs etc
dynamic loads
...
daring raven
right, but it's already an option in the packaging menu
daring raven
you just have to make your C++ reference explicit enough that it can follow the chain I guess
north stirrup
Or most likely tag those assets manually somehow
daring raven
yeah
anyways, overshadowed (heh) by RTX this release: Refactor adds auto-instancing at runtime and more efficient renderthread mesh drawing
north stirrup
Niiiiice
tawny minnow
@daring raven That's how I name my assets. I start with the smaller. Then I migrate the smaller into the larger asset pack to maintain file structure and continue from there. So whichever asset pack the buyer downloads the assets always stay where they are. But, as we said with plugins it might not be that easy.
daring raven
looks like there's a post from 2017 saying that any plugin dependencies must be on plugins available in the marketplace and the requirement must be very clear ๐
daring raven
just have to finish now! ๐
drowsy jasper
I am looking for stylized fires, explosions, smokes and magics.. Can someone recommend something from the MP? (or if there isn't anything like - it's a good idea for someone to make something like that for MP ๐ )
delicate dove
simple cartoon fx pack looks ok
<_< I am getting people angry at me because my free pack isnt niagara
daring raven
could be worth mentioning in the description at this point, no?
delicate dove
no room in description if I am correct <_<
daring raven
hah, that's what you get for being so descriptive ๐
delicate dove
but simply said
- cascade wont suddenly disappear.
- All the materials and meshes will work with niagara.
- if Epic does release a cascade to niagara converter (besides some inconveniences) they'll work
tawny minnow
I love it (not) when people bitch about free stuff... /shakes head
lilac heath
If there not happy they can always ask for a refund. I think your pack is pretty wicked. There's only been cool stuff so far.
timber dragon
Is there a way to create different files on the library for different stuff EX. File for models?
tawny minnow
@ebon leaf Depends on what you mean by "too simillar".
@timber dragon Could you please rephrase that because as it stands it doesn't make much sense?๐
...and good day everyone ๐
timber dragon
@tawny minnow Sorry. I was meaning that in the UE4 library for all of your assets could you make a file so it's a little more organized.
merry field
You mean folders?
merry field
You can just make folders. Right-click on the parent folder and select "New Folder" at the top of the context menu
Or just right-click on some empty space
Easiest to do it on the folders in the Sources panel (e.g. explorer view) though, saves trying to get an empty spot in a full folder
tepid pivot
Hello guys, we will add a new AR furniture product
https://youtu.be/cgex1sQ8tZk
grizzled thunder
Anyone with experience of updating an already released asset pack I've a question. ๐ Lets say in v1.0 of the pack I have a master material "M_Bob" and a material instance "MI_Jane." What happens when in v1.10 I do a few tweaks to "M_Bob" and also decide to change it's name to "M_Bill" ? The relationship between the master and instance still exists but the master's name has changed (location etc is all in the same place). What happens when someone who already owned the pack updates? Do they end up with two masters? Does unreal know that Bill used to be Bob? Do the pitchforks come out?
daring raven
that's the one case where you don't want to fix up redirectors ๐
grizzled thunder
well that ship sailed... lol. Fixing up redirectors is a reflex now.. and part of the submission guidelines I think . Looks like I might have to copy my work into a fresh version of the pack, but leave old Bob with the same name...
What happens if people who already donwloaded the pack but made their own changes to materials. Will my version splat over?
*new updated version
uneven wave
Aloha, fellow creators, craftsmen, developers, gamers and those of unspecified functions! Glad to have joined and find this rich community.
grizzled thunder
I liked your optimistic post, how did you fare with the response? ๐
on the creators hub that is
uneven wave
You mean the one with the markeplace suggestions?
grizzled thunder
Yeah ๐ I think I made the same when I joined 6 months ago
Although they mentioned they're working on.. comments and wishlists I think it is at the moment
it was in a community spotlight
uneven wave
Well, a community manager jumped in and reassured that ideas are taken into account and it takes time to implement them, which is understandable.
That's it in a nutshell.
Btw, what's a community spotlight?
grizzled thunder
I for one like the idea of epic sipping cocktails laughing at our misfortune. Made me chuckl
uneven wave
Agreed, had a chuckle as well on that one.
Alas, lots of gears spinning in the system, takes time from A to Z.
grizzled thunder
Community spotlight is part of Epics livestream social stuff. You can see it here in events
or in their facebook etc
uneven wave
Great! Thanks for sharing, lots of stuff to take in as a newcomer, it's easy to get lost in the seas of topics and links.
grizzled thunder
Hope your shop does well, lots of fun tracks there
jagged badger
Hey all anyone know how I can find the feedback provided if a marketplace project I submitted was rejected? I deleted the email a long time ago but I would like to re-read it to attempt again at submitting.
merry field
Uh, why would you delete that? You could maybe contact Epic support and ask if they still have it
jagged badger
Dunno I just assumed I wouldnt resubmit it, but now of course I changed my mind. I remember some stuff but not all of it.
merry field
You can check my pinned message here in this channel, it links to a guide where I listed a lot of the common pitfalls / issues that they will reject something for
You can also get similar from the official Marketplace guidelines
jagged badger
ohh ok will read that at some point, thanks
tawny minnow
@jagged badger You could always email Marketplace Support and ask them to sent you the rejection feedback again.
jagged badger
Yeah thats what I did @tawny minnow, hopefully it wont take long before I hear back and hope they still have a record of it.
I was hoping it would be on the product page as there is a rejected section but all it does it guide you to the marketplace guidelines which isnt really useful.
tawny minnow
No worries, it may take them 1-2 days to get back to you but you'll get the answers to the questions you may have. So far I don't have any complaints about the people over at Marketplace Support. They do an excellent work. Always there when you need help or answer with something.
merry field
Yeah, they seemed pretty helpful, my only issue with them was that they initially outright rejected my submission instead of tagging it as needing some changes
(So I had to copy-paste everything into a new product to re-submit, was a pain)
jagged badger
Hmm surely they told you what was wrong with it, can we not just make the changes and re-submit? Do we have to make a brand new product?
merry field
That's the idea, but they put mine into the wrong state so I couldn't resubmit
I'd imagine it was just a simple mistake, didn't take that long to work around anyway
jagged badger
Ahh is that standard procedure or just by accident?
merry field
I'd say by accident
jagged badger
hmm thats a bummer
ebon leaf
Hello guys soon to be released free content?
delicate dove
next month again
tiny stag
Is someone have issues Submiting product?
getting Error: We encounter a problem, please retry later or contact admin for help.
shadow inlet
We're having issues with save/submit functions on the Publisher Portal atm.
They're working on a fix!
Are any of you having issues downloading MP content and adding it to your projects?
tiny stag
@shadow inlet Thanks for the information! = )
tiny stag
Looks like it fixed right now, successfully submitted
shadow inlet
Great - glad it's working!
north stirrup
rofl
modern perch
hahaha
daring raven
Heh
uneven wave
I want to make sure on something: on the marketplace, was music and sound effects one and the same category last year? or where they separate like they are now?
were*
Whoever answers, please mention me in your reply so I'll get notified
merry field
What do you mean by "reinitialise" in this context?
If the thing doesn't work at all until you click, that's pretty bad
If you just can't edit its current state, that's probably okay
eager laurel
How Feasible is making money from asset creation on the market place?
for most people is it a small secondary source of income, or can people make a significant amount of money?
lilac heath
Hard to have as a primary income, unless you make the pack every one wants
You can spend 6months working on something only to have 5 people buy it in the same time frame
north stirrup
Depends on what a significant amount of money is for you I guess
I'd agree with purple here
delicate dove
"You can spend 6months working on something only to have 5 people buy it in the same time frame"
or know how versatile your pack is, yet nobody seems to get it (am I out of touch? no its the meme) and you need to lower price to make it sell hehe.
but, I pay my rent/food with the marketplace income, and have some clients on the side
lunar fractal
You're probably one of the few though ๐
I would suggest to trying to create a pack and see what happens. If it seems viable, you can always quit your job
delicate dove
nah, there are people who earn way more than their rent trough mp, but only a select few. (best guess at least)
north stirrup
Yup
harsh coral
a guy i know left his job at ubisoft, because he makes more selling archviz stuff online
merry field
I think the hardest part would be coming up with the really good ideas for things to make that would sell
delicate dove
yea, I generally just make what I want.
but if you want a good idea. small vert slice projects.
platformer vert slice, fps vert slice, etc.. things that allow people to iterate faster on ideas.
merry field
I was thinking little utility stuff
Small systems that need a bit of fiddling to set up
Which can be made fairly quickly and sold fairly cheaply
vapid tundra
you can't do a vert slice with mp stuff imho
unless you want your games style to be an incoherent mess ofc ๐
delicate dove
if its just for the testing phase it should be fine
e.g. I rather have a turn based vert slice, than a whole rpg kit with stuff I prolly wont use
vapid tundra
but a vert slice contains final quality assets etc
just boiled down to 1 or 2 levels
delicate dove
I dont see it like that, a vert slice can just be a particular gameplay element with placeholders
then again, my definition of vert slice might be different
merry field
I thought a vertical slice was one small section that was totally finished, like a demo
vapid tundra
It kinda is.
delicate dove
basically I mean a protoyping thing
so to rephrase myself, tiny prototyping packs for specific game types
saves time, and a good starting point for beginners
graceful arrow
@delicate dove Liked the free pack and saw your earlier free caves, so decided to buy your cave pack. Looking forward to utilising it in Dungeon Architect. ๐
delicate dove
aww, thanks @graceful arrow hug
graceful arrow
plus, it's the thing I really needed for my own personal project, saves me a shed ton of time.
daring raven
This is an unsubstantiated claim but it seems like functionality from external programs wrapped up in an easy to use format for Unreal are fairly popular (and by extension should do well?)
Thinking of little time savers like pivot tool that some swear by
delicate dove
node assistant in ue4 is what I swear by
daring raven
Exactly
delicate dove
38644 times my free pack got downloaded so far
daring raven
Downloaded downloaded or "purchased" downloaded?
wooden falcon
you can't know how many downloads
they don't tell you :/
but congrats on that number...took me 3 months to get there with my free one
daring raven
Yeah I was just thinking I've only downloaded probably one or two of each months freebies
wooden falcon
it's been interesting..."downloads" on my free pack have hit a steady state of about 200 a day
daring raven
Gotta grab them because #hoarder though
wooden falcon
yah, I haven't downloaded a single free pack that I've "bought"..but then again, I have ones I've paid for that I haven't downloaded yet either
wooden falcon
not unusually large ๐ In later years I don't tend to even bother with Steam sales
uneven wave
@delicate dove 38k downloads and only 121 ratings. That's a ratio of 1:300. Maybe we should have automated reminders sent by the marketplace after 3-7 days to ask clients to rate the purchases/downloads.
merry field
How could I rate something that I merely dragon-hoarded without even downloading? ๐
daring raven
@uneven wave sorry, but I'd automated delete them :\
delicate dove
^
it would be nice to have an option somewhere in launcher/marketplace website where you can easily vote/review like they do on nexus
sand timber
so the rating is not accurate in numbers? for example you have 8 ratings it means only 8 entity purchased? whilst the reality is 16 entity bought it.
modern perch
the vast majority of people who buy never leave a rating
delicate dove
@sand timber more like, 8 ratings, probably 800-1600 entities might have purchased it. (also depends on the kind of pack though)
sand timber
@delicate dove @modern perch then why Unreal allowed it to happen? so i'm also blind with the ratings that just unfair.
modern perch
you can't force people to leave a rating
delicate dove
just how people are, they dont want to spend effort going back to a package to rate/review it
modern perch
that and they might not actually properly use the pack for weeks after buying
delicate dove
^
modern perch
Epic doesn't make it easy to rate something after you've navigated away from the purchase page
azure tundra
or go back to leave a negative rating because there i no replication even if its cleary stated in the discription, etc
delicate dove
im fine with it though, rather a hearthfelt review of someone who really enjoyed it, than someone forced to write something because they are forced/nagged about trough email
azure tundra
i would prefer a rating system with feedback though like for example amazons
sand timber
@azure tundra I totally agree with. they should at least leave a mark after spending an amount, it's not force @modern perch you can also help the author.
modern perch
there's nothing in place to bring them back to the page though
which is why most won't leave a review
delicate dove
they should make something like the nexus mod manager
"we noticed you have this pack installed, care to leave a rating?"
and you can rate it trough the manager. can even get a list of all installed mods and leave ratings for each with a few simple clicks.
delicate dove
the launcher itself is already quite slow
sand timber
@modern perch that is why I don't see an actual sell count on each item for sale.
@delicate dove yeah it's really slow.
modern perch
I mean you can already rate things through the launcher
delicate dove
even when I keep it in the icons tab, it takes about a minute to load a page when opening
modern perch
it's just a lot of faff
delicate dove
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/cute-hamsters
arent those hamsters some anime-copyrighted thing?
modern perch
dunno
they're familiar, but I don't know that they're copies
pretty similar
(but not copies)
delicate dove
I do have the urge to watch a hamtaro episode all of a sudden
wooden falcon
my ratings on my free pack seem to be stuck at 69 :/
flat schooner
Hey I made a tool for marketplace reports
You can get it for free from here: https://gumroad.com/l/qwkKN
You can get it for free from here: https://gumroad.com/l/qwkKN
daring raven
I'm curious what you gain going from google docs into unreal engine
flat schooner
you don't have to be, you can check for yourself
daring raven
makes me think of http://psdoom.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html ๐
merry field
Do the monsters get bigger the more resources they're using?
Have to kill a cyberdemon to kill the one hogging all your CPU
hoary ferry
Hi, this might be a stupid question, but this is the first time I'm working with multiple people on a game. How do I share a plugin I bought from the marketplace with them for the project?
(I'm talking about the spline twist correct plugin)
modern perch
you probably want to set up a version control server
hoary ferry
We're using Perforce
But we just found out that you can also include engine plugins in the project plugins folder, so its solved ๐
drowsy hawk
shouldn't a window* pop up automatically in the launcher asking for you to rate your purchases, after a week or so, if you didn't already? And ofc rate via the pop up. Since the launcher sucks very much... That would certainly increase rates at least by 50%, if they really are as low as you say they are compared to total purchases.
modern perch
that would require me to ever open the launcher