#fab
wooden falcon
is that close enough to Red Cross copywrite, I wonder?
one of the comments: "I'd just like to point out, the Red Cross is property of Canadian Red Cross and any usage in Canada is punishable by law. Being Canadian and living in Canada, if I used that in my game, I'd get a cease and desist letter."
wooden falcon
it's an old pack, so might not have been reviewed yet
but is on sale
what is up with the sorting on the sale? I swear it changes
delicate dove
i know, but just in medi-case
wooden falcon
lol
shadow inlet
Hit me with the direct link please?
delicate dove
looks @wooden falcon
wooden falcon
done
delicate dove
though, i wouldnt want to be hit by a medipack case
would that heal or damage you I wonder XD
wooden falcon
I would think it's probably an easy fix..at least the author doesn't have to completely redo a mesh, like the poor gun guys
shadow inlet
He just PM'd it 😛
wooden falcon
holy crap, that movie's from 1995...I feel old
delicate dove
btw, for those who have twitter, i find this account/bot really handy
https://twitter.com/UnrealAssets
Twitter
wooden falcon
oh yah, love that one
oak whale
Going to need to follow that 😃
robust vector
delicate dove
def not bad BF
robust vector
I'm wondering if releasing during a sale translates into additional exposure, or if people are only going to buy what is on sale.
tiny stag
Finally released my Project what do u think guys? https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/subway-template
delicate dove
it looks good. only thing I can think of to add more value to it is a way to add rust and other decay related details procedurally or by painting manually
leaden root
Yea the bar for subway packs already set pretty high
Ahhh you got blueprints in there
Ok I see the value now
ocean leaf
Soo i have a door model... should i post it on market??
leaden root
Not if its just a door
lunar fractal
robust vector
No takers on Zeke today but had alright sales on other assets.
humble stag
Slightly random, but I found an asset on sale in marketplace with a 404 page.
It's displayed in sellers profile and the official marketplace spring spreadsheet, but the asset is not available.
Try to click the link for "Ruben Leon x Rumble (Ambient Deep Trance Music)" and see for yourself.
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/Ruben Leon
It also shows up in the music assets list, and when you search for it.
sinful kelp
Day 3 of sale... ePic Pls send email i'll give u my firstborn....
odd cedar
If I used asset store content in my project would I be allowed to include mod support?
modern perch
yes
delicate dove
its a bit less black/white than that
you can allow mod support, but you cannot allow users to export the mp content
though I dont think we ever had legal give us a conclusive answer
modern perch
I had a conclusive answer given to me directly - you can do it just fine so long as the end user cannot extract those assets through your mod tools
you can also use marketplace content in mods for games just the same
delicate dove
i still find it a tad weird though, imho the creator of said content should get an additional fee in the case where potential thousands can use it
modern perch
The creator of the game purchased your asset and commercially exploited it, as per the terms of the marketplace agreement
that's where everything stops - I don't see why the original author would be entitled to anything more
delicate dove
im not saying its something legal related, im just saying it would be nice.
In theory you are selling it to a company who uses it for a game, it feels weird that now thousands of others that are not a company and dont have a contract with the mp eula can use that content to mod the game. for a lot of other software companies that would be a big no no
modern perch
That content never leaves the game though, it's been purchased once and exploited once
delicate dove
tell that to the conan people. export all them things
modern perch
if you can export marketplace assets from Conan, that's Conan's problem for breaking the terms of the asset licenses
Ark as an example uses marketplace content, but those assets cannot be exported from the editor
delicate dove
I was contacted by them when mp just launched. if they could use my cave pack. since I didnt know how that worked legal-wise told them to ask the mp team atthe time
never heard from em again
hehe
wooden falcon
Second day better than the first:
ebon leaf
ok
maybe i need to get into it lel
i should make something good
but i cant do art so im kind of limited
only a programmer lel
wooden falcon
plugins and blueprints do well, I believe...but require massive upkeep
ebon leaf
yea
i dont think i would like to do blueprints
i would rather do like
a C++ Inventory System
since there seems to be none
wooden falcon
hmm...not sure if there are any plugin inventory systems...but there are a ton of blueprint ones
blueprint inventory allows for customization, though, by modifying the blueprints...you'd have to program all of the customization into the plugin
wooden falcon
oh yah
real dust
Yup, people are a lot less tempted to buy C++ stuff than they are to buy BP stuff
ebon leaf
Art: "Look at this pretty picture"
Code: "Needs to be functional...etc"
real dust
Because most people feel safer with BP
modern perch
people like BPs because they think they can modify it more easily (ha ha ha)
real dust
^
modern perch
in reality there's a higher likelihood of them being absolute garbage though
modern perch
my success rate with buying blueprints has been quite low
ebon leaf
i bought an inventory system on marketplace a while back
and i regret it lel
but it taught me a lot
wooden falcon
yah, they're probably better as learning tools than anything
sinful kelp
You can make decent income from the marketplace depending where you live. I can get a months wage in a week and i live in eastern europe
wooden falcon
not sure how those are post-apocalyptic, but the comments are interesting
"Don't you think you should be giving credit to the company that makes these weapons, especially since you are charging money for someone else's designs? And, for crying out loud, call them by their actual names, they're awesome. zombietools.net"
"I'm going to admit fault for not giving credit, but I believe using their actual names might actually get me into some copy right troubles. Credit has been added to the description."
ebon leaf
oof
delicate dove
kinda amazed that the person who commented is "zombietools"
shouldve contacted mp team instead
wooden falcon
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/survival-gear another red cross one
really nice assets though
I wonder if the design of mag-lites is copyrighted?
modern perch
why wouldn't it be?
wooden falcon
it's so common to see that style in games
ebon leaf
@shadow inlet Is the marketplace/epic launcher busted right now?
It seems to be loading incredibly slowly
Not just for marketplace, but for fortnite as well
wooden falcon
I believe they're all on the same servers
delicate dove
launcher for me, sometimes takes 5-10 minutes before it loads
shadow inlet
I know they're working on improving the backend to help with such things.
Dang, really?
delicate dove
seems to speed up if I rightclick on the small icon and keep spamming between home/unreal
ebon leaf
It's REALLY bad
And I think its even for fortnite players
and paragon
so i guarantee people on twitch are bitching
at u guys lmao
shadow inlet
So from click of launcher icon to open, it's 5-10 minutes?
ebon leaf
For me it's loading in, as well as opening up marketplace store and such
delicate dove
launching the launcher, it keeps loading
shadow inlet
Is this always or specifically when we've had server hiccups?
delicate dove
atm its loading fine again, but it tends to get stuck on: https://i.gyazo.com/e2ee0cfb62cd169364fb0f046ee05c7f.png
delicate dove
been like that since a week or so
ebon leaf
mine was just recently
oak fiber
Pretty sure that sale ain't helping
delicate dove
its not helping the sale either XD
wooden falcon
what is this, a hoe for ants?!: https://cdn1.epicgames.com/ue/product/Screenshot/OWToolsScreenshot06-1920x1080-9e705b6ae035f4000ce7dfe422cd070a.png
delicate dove
looks like a kids one
wooden falcon
first zombie strike and you'd be poking them with the broken end
he really missed an opportunity...pitch fork?
one of the funnest weapons in Blood 😃
robust vector
I wonder if that hoe is even x-forward
ebon leaf
How long is the spring sale?
wooden falcon
to the 13?
wooden falcon
there are a bunch of them, that's for sure
robust vector
If tools are really that hot of a commodity, I might as well grab a piece of that pie
wooden falcon
not sure if it's that they're a hot commodity
or that they're just low hanging fruit
zealous ibex
Great to hear the sales are going well for you @wooden falcon 😃
ebon leaf
I just went through all the items on sale and shared like 30 with our team. If anyone has things that fit into a wild west setting, lemme know I guess. :P
Also, thank you @wooden falcon
zealous ibex
Also - if I may ask, does everyone see a huge spike in support requests? I'd almost be worried at how little I appear to be getting 🤔 I spend a ton of time on my docs (and writing it's trouble shooting section where I see people are having issues), but I keep being surprised at how little I'm getting, especially in such a busy season
robust vector
Been a month or two since my last one
robust vector
I'm only grossing about $200 per day, so not really enough to make up for a drop-off in sales I had before the event sale
wooden falcon
sounds good to me 😃
robust vector
Probably not going to set my discount percentage this high again
wooden falcon
but yah, the post sale drop off sucks
robust vector
Its not enough to live on, and I've been devoting basically all of my time to the marketplace the last couple of months
wooden falcon
it's just a sometimes fun hobby for me
"sometimes" being that it can consume most of my free time if I let it
I like the community more than anything
robust vector
My contract work ended unexpectedly and I don't have a replacement job lined up yet
ebon leaf
@robust vector that's what contract work is man
i need to get another source of income
ebon leaf
lool
robust vector
I suppose its still better than working in a cubicle
lunar fractal
This is fine 😉
robust vector
Oh man, sales are tapering off really fast
sullen lion
that could almost be in FS2004
supple moon
yeah should come up p/good when you're 30,000 feet away, ship it
is that on the MP?
zealous ibex
@robust vector That's more than I tend to make in a whole month 😂 Anyway, bummer it (probably) won't make up for the loss in sales 😦
I'm kind of hating that there's sales so frequently now as it makes it a pain to launch assets at the right time (eg. not in a huge post-sales dip & before the next sale's deadline), and I'm pretty sure it's A. you're not getting any sales/etc. or B. the dip barely makes up for the sales lost and you're stuck with more support requests. But yeah - I'm glad I don't need to rely on this as my (primary) source of income
robust vector
I'm getting better results during my own sales. There's so many products on sale at the same time during event sales that you need to have a big discount margin to compete, and you still don't get enough purchases to make up for it. The frequency of event sales isn't so much the problem as much as it is the sheer volume of content and no real way to sort through except by discount percentage.
zealous ibex
(don't get me wrong - the sales are great for buyers, but they're making it a pain for sellersi n my opinion)
Yeah - I agree, but if there was say one of these sales there'd only be one of the cutoffs, if there are 2+ there'll be 2+ cutoffs, also making it harder to schedule your own sales
But I agree, about 1900 by my math assets on sale really is quite a lot
(5x5=25 on each page -> 25x76=1900; just a rough estimate, I believe the MP published a sheet with exact numbers though)
robust vector
If only there was some sort of system of keyword based searching and filtering to help discoverability. Too bad that technology doesn't exist.
zealous ibex
😦 There are some sort options and filters, but I agree they are kinda sub-par
if we at least got the ability to sort by category in the sprint sale thingy that'd be a huge improvement
(granted as almost everything is on sale you could go to the category too, but still)
zealous ibex
Also, why on earth is a free plugin participating in the sale? That makes no sense to me, but I could be wrong 😂
(it is a great free asset though)
robust vector
Seems a bit unusual
I'm surprised Epic's server's didn't explode from doing calculations on an asset with 0 cost
-_-
Photoshop won't save a file larger than 2GB? How can I be expected to texture assets under these conditions!
34 layers of 8192x8192 is perfectly reasonable...
lunar fractal
zealous ibex
😂
sinful kelp
Well gg still no email regarding the sale, and here i thought valve didn't communicate
zealous ibex
😦
wooden falcon
have you emailed them KiT?
or asked Amanda Bott, here? She's really helpful
yah, sales dropped a bit yesterday, but was still pretty good
sinful kelp
@wooden falcon yeah i emailed them
but no response yet and i don't really like pinging people when they are working
wooden falcon
nah, it's cool, @shadow inlet has always been really helpful
just don't ping any of the others 😉
shadow inlet
😃
sinful kelp
Heya amanda!
shadow inlet
Hi hi! We're checking into the missing emails.
shadow inlet
We realized that some folks were missed for the invite to participate in the Spring sale after you all mentioned it. Many apologies for that.
We're working on determining the cause of that and will be more diligent about making sure all folks are included in future messaging.
lunar fractal
Any requirements for joining the sale?
zealous ibex
I guess not? There's even a free asset "on sale" (or at least in the Spring Sale category), so I belive as long as you have at least one product you should be fine
Don't quote me on that though, and that's for the big sale events and not the invite-based events like the flash sale we had last year.....I think
north stirrup
😐
wooden falcon
except my bone box, which is a pricey $2
wooden falcon
here's a tip...use this url: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/event-sale?offset=25&max=100
shows 100 items per page
any more than that and you get a server 500 error
you can also sort by discount, which is handy...I usually sort by price...I go through the 0 to $5, then $5 to $10, etc
weak bobcat
@robust vector Don't use PSD for files that large, use PSB. Photoshop large document format is better suited for it.
wooden falcon
wonder how everyone elses sales have been going?
marble kraken
hey guys, what can prevent an older version to not show even the textures of a v18 asset pack ? How can i fix that. there is no reason not to show textures or meshes .
wooden falcon
it won't work
you can't open stuff that was created in a newer version, in an older version
I've tried 😦 stuff messes up
robust vector
You would need to export everything back to source files from the newer engine version and then import source files to the old version and redo all the in-engine work.
marble kraken
This is so impractical . ok thanks guys
wooden falcon
yah, I had to do that with my Bone Box once BlackFang...someone wanted it in 4.9, so I had to reimport everything
I actually would like to discontinue support for 4.9, cause it created a new material slot on a mesh for each LOD added
which was an issue they fixed in 4.10 or 4.11
robust vector
I don't think I support anything that old
Although, 4.18 runs terribly for me and crashes constantly when I'm editing blueprints, so if they don't fix that in 4.19 I might be staying at 4.16 for a while
north stirrup
Weird
zealous ibex
I wouldn't even be able to add support for that if I wanted 😛
I can't even update or add support for 4.15 🤦 (on my plugins that is)
wooden falcon
cause plugins they only let you update 2 versions back?
zealous ibex
3 total, so yeah
4.18, 4.17 & 4.16
Worse is when the review process is so slow they require you to drop support for one of the versions you put a ton of time in to to get supported
(In my case one of my plugins required some work to get it to work with 4.15, but review took so long I am not able to release it with support for it)
But I kind of get it, as it wouldn't be 100% reasonable to expect them to have all versions of UE4 installed & check all of the seperate versions/etc.
robust vector
Plugins really take so much time and effort to support
I've not had a single support request for other asset types.
blazing harbor
hey. i have a bp asset thats approved. I noticed a minor visual bug with my widgets when using a server player vs a dedicated server. I've fixed it and emailed epic that Id like the fixed version up before publishing. but I havent heard back. If I publish... how quickly can I put out an update? Does the updated project go through the entire approval process again ?
lunar fractal
@blazing harbor My updated version was approved in two days but also heard different stories 😉
blazing harbor
is there a way to post an update through the portal after publishing? right now its all locked for me other than the text and publish button
or is it all done via email?
lunar fractal
I hope I did it correct, but yeah you can submit a update of the project code. They will review and e-mail you when approved
zealous ibex
It's usually pretty fast, but it's currently weekend & they're probably pretty bussy with the sale going on so it may take a little longer
@robust vector
Plugins really take so much time and effort to support
``` Kind of agree, I don't think I get as many support requests as most (spend a ton of time on docs though), but keeping them up-to-date/etc. is probably the most work for plugins- you can't really sell them on other MPs/for other engines without a ton of work either (like art), so RIP. I guess I'm glad I (mainly) do this as a hobby though, so I don't really mind keeping stuff up-to-date that much
lunar fractal
Where do you host your docs/information? Support website or forum thread or?
zealous ibex
Google docs for me
It's not perfect, especially when you want to update them due to live preview, but it's something (pretty much) anyone can access, will always be online & is pretty much trusted by everyone/online so people don't have to download anything extra
& I kinda like one of google docs's templates for writing docs ^^
But I'm working on an improved support site (that includes a bug tracker/etc.) but that's a pretty low priority for me personally
& Though I considered using a doxygen-like plugin, I never really liked that concept of auto-generated docs showing info that you can see yourself anyway, so I decided against it eventually. If anyone here is reading this, uses my products and thinks I should add it then please ping me/send me a DM though 😃
And forum threads are pretty good for exposure/keeping a change log, but since the new forum upgrade I try and avoid using it as muc has I can
lunar fractal
I was thinking about a forum post for exposure, currently setup a GitHub Pages website for documentation, change log, etc. Free and simple for now.
Could you maybe give an example docs page?
delicate dove
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/archviz-starter-kit
rofl dat price
312.02 euro
"the mp team is really doubling down on copyrighted content"
accepts another thing with a red cross
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/pickups-reload-sfx-weapons-ammo-healthpacks-etc
robust vector
Well, its an SFX pack, so they aren't actually selling the thing they violated, just using it in promo images. So, at least that won't affect customers.
oak whale
@leaden root Loving your avatar
leaden root
Thanks 
delicate dove
that 312 euro pack though, I still cant believe it hehe.
robust vector
His response to the comment about the price is great
sinful kelp
@robust vector is it the archviz one?
wooden falcon
lol, after 422 units sold this sale, I finally get a rating 😃
wooden falcon
yah, the base price sucks 😦
but the take-away is actually better than when I did 50% sales last big sale
delicate dove
sold like **** this sale, even with more packs on sale than last time, and bigger discounts.
robust vector
Yeah. I'm probably not going to go over 30% discount on event sales anymore
There isn't enough exposure to make up for the low base price
nova scaffold
@sullen lion which one?
elfin plinth
wooden falcon
lol
hey, are the images messed up for anyone else viewing this: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/necro-s-utility-material-pack-01
north stirrup
Define messed up @wooden falcon
wooden falcon
they're only showing the top parts in my screen
wooden falcon
I only see a few rows of pixels on each image, the rest is blank
north stirrup
wooden falcon
no matter how many times I F5
north stirrup
I guess it's you
wooden falcon
hmm, maybe it's just me then :/
wooden falcon
ah, that did it!
north stirrup
😃
wooden falcon
thanks!
wooden falcon
yah, hurts to put them so cheap 😦
but it's the only way to get visibility on this MP
delicate dove
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/steampunk-weapons
got excited.. OOH! steampunk weapo....oohh..sounds.
sounds are prolly awesome, but I was hoping for SP weapons
robust vector
I'm going to put out a few scifi weapons, but if those aren't profitable either then I'm dumping the weapons category for good.
Its been a waste of time with everything I've put out in it so far.
wintry pine
Any good nature (trees, grass, etc.) packs or archviz material packs on sale?
Especially trees
wooden falcon
I saw the same thing @delicate dove, lol
polar minnow
Hi ! I bought this on the marketplace and the shadows are very black and not particularly beautiful as on the image on the marketplace.
I buy this only to have the shader and the light. What to do ? Thank you in advance for your solution. 🐰
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/low-poly-forest-asset-pack
delicate dove
@polar minnow ask the creator either on forum thread or trough email how to achieve this, though a bit odd to buy models for their shader and lighting setup hehe
polar minnow
@delicate dove
I know it may not be the best idea but I do not find a cartoon shader on the marketplace that suits me.
Thank you i will try the forum. 😟
delicate dove
this isnt really a cartoon shader though, its probably just a gradient (if any) applied to low poly meshes and a rather global lighting setup.
polar minnow
that's what I want but without the shadow very black and not very beautiful 😟
delicate dove
i'd ask the creator for some advice and see if he wants to give it :)
while not obliged if you ask kindly he might be willing to shed some (pun intended) light on it.
polar minnow
Yea Thank you i will try 😄
vague jasper
Hey guys anyone here known with the MAry Nate MESH TOOL? I wanna know if that plugin also has baking PIVOT points in it? So that it stays on that position.
robust vector
"I would appreciate it if you removed your comment from my attests page as it is already having a detriment to it. you already know that its hard enough to sell here.
I have left reasons why I used the setup I have in the topic page. There has already been topics on the creators hub about the comments section should be for reviews.
If anyone that doesn't want to spend less than 10 min to add a new joint to the root, then what are they doing trying to make games.
Its very annoying to spend 2 months on a pack just to have another seller make comments that effect things like this (you may not of intend to do so)"
Apparently I'm in the wrong for asking questions about an animation pack that decided to add a bone to the skeleton instead of using an existing IK bone.
sullen lion
Innit that even a blatant guideline violation?
robust vector
Yep
sullen lion
pft
robust vector
But, the animations category has always been a cesspool of "Looks nice, not functional. Glad I wasted money."
Which is why I always ask questions before I buy anything.
ebon leaf
@robust vector what was your question?
robust vector
"Important/Additional Notes: Your character skeleton will need a "weapon_mount" bone attached to the root bone"
What is the weapon_mount bone you mention in the notes and how does it differ from the gun ik bone?
ebon leaf
...LOL
robust vector
"The weapon_mound is run off the root bone, where the gun mound is run off the IK bone for the right hand. This allowed for a wider range of motion as it in not tied to the right arm"
You should strongly consider using the gun bone instead as it sounds like your animations would be difficult to integrate into most projects. Most devs aren't going to be eager to have one set of animations that work differently from all the other sets. Its also important that its parented to the hand IK bone so the motion works well with characters of different proportions.
Then he tried to @ me in the forums to move the convo there and when I didn't respond to that he sent me the pm I quoted
ebon leaf
lol... welp, get rekt that guy
robust vector
These people make these animation packs that look great then completely screw up the technical side of things that should only make up about 1% of the total effort.
He could have just animated his custom bone and the gun bone the same to give customers the option
Its important for the animation scaled skeleton retarget option that its coming off the hand though, so that the motion works with the character's proportions. Not everyone intends to use the mannequin as their game's character
ebon leaf
That person sounds like an idiot tbh... "If anyone that doesn't want to spend less than 10 min to add a new joint to the root, then what are they doing trying to make games." That statement could be said about each and every single step of each and every single asset's creation lol. Such a cop out
robust vector
It does entirely defeat the point of a standardized system for marketplace assets
ebon leaf
yeah
robust vector
I just don't understand why somebody would put two months into something then half-ass a crucial technical aspect
ebon leaf
last 10% is way harder than the first 90% for most people in my experience lol
leaden root
Yea that ironbelly weapon mount bone thing is really annoying
Would have been much easier to integrate if it was on the ik_hand_gun bone
supple moon
the idea is
if you have a gun that has a reload animation, and the right hand is actually used to pull the charging handle, the left hand swaps to hold the foregrip, you need an extra bone that isn't tied to the right hand motion
robust vector
Why?
supple moon
I imagine it would be easier to add an extra bone? That's just why I think they do it
robust vector
Just sounds like they don't understand how to use ik bones correctly
supple moon
I have more complaints about not knowing how anatomy / subject matter actually functions rather than what bones they use lol
that's as a consumer
robust vector
You mean like you buy an animal model and the person calls the ankles knees? That drives me insane.
supple moon
No like weapon animations that function completely wrong / fingers wrists etc bending in unnatural ways
robust vector
Oh. Broken wrists are pretty common in animation packs
People animating with the mannequin instead of an actual character don't notice.
robust vector
That guy removed his own comments from the product page now
delicate dove
the spear one?
yea I was wondering what was up with that
is that even allowed?
not to mention there is a difference in lance, spear, and javelin, and none of the animations really match those closely besides basic stance.
worthy pawn
accidently accessed marketplace launcher production server via browser URL.. should this be reported to epic or is this expected behaviour? quite like the dark UI in browser personally 😉
delicate dove
ooh dm me an image. and yea report
worthy pawn
i was hunting around as this page was 404'ing: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/perfect-blocks-idle-tower-defense
but ironically it works on the production server lol
delicate dove
O_o
robust vector
I've got a bug I haven't been able to get rid of in my advanced movement plugin. When I walk off a sloped edge, the character veers away sideways (in the down-slope direction) quite jarringly
I'm just not sure where I should be looking...
robust vector
Got it... Getting closer to release now.... Been saying that for three years....
tired rune
I bought 2 assets from the same vendor, only to discover that the assets contained in one of the purchases was already included in the first one (and not clearly stated). I wrote to marketplace-support@unrealengine.com 10 days ago, still no reply. Is this the support to be expected? I've just spent > €700 and quite honestly I'd expect more than that. Do I have to use another email address?
leaden root
Which packs?
delicate dove
cc: @shadow inlet
wooden falcon
man, sales are gonna suck after tuesday :/
delicate dove
already suck :p
wooden falcon
😦
hopefully Epic gets better filtering/searching in by the next sale
I bought one of your particle packs Luos 😃
shadow inlet
@tired rune - Shoot me a DM with your email and I can follow up!
delicate dove
@wooden falcon ooh thanks 😃 which one?
wooden falcon
the first elemental effects pack, though I think I'm going to buy the second as well
they just look so cool
delicate dove
once I have some time I'll probably optimize the shaders, but then again been watning to do so for months hehe
wooden falcon
yah, I'm the same way...there's things I've been wanting to tweak on older packs for years now, it seems :/
like, go back to my first pack and improve the materials knowing what I know now
delicate dove
everytime I see someone promoting their upcoming weapons pack ( https://www.facebook.com/groups/ue4promo/permalink/1581126071984282/ ) I wonder if they'll be accepted hehe
wooden falcon
yah, sucks to be them I guess :/
those are some beautiful meshes too
592 units sold this sale, and I guarantee I won't see another sale in the next couple of months
modern perch
hehe
novel badger
Is there any good road assets?
I've tried looking for some but looking for recommendations
wooden falcon
hmm...I remember one at one point, but haven't seen it around in awhile
and I don't see it from Search anymore...odd
novel badger
ty
wooden falcon
ah cool, another rating 😃 that is officially more ratings than I think I've seen in half a year
wooden falcon
no idea
I rate all products I buy (I might not leave a comment unless I really love it)
blazing harbor
@sinful kelp i have a lot of graphical MP assets. I have rated maybe 2 or 3.. its literally just because I havent used them or looked at them yet so I cant fairly rate. I think many are in the same boat
wooden falcon
that's true...especially during sales when you buy a bunch of stuff
copper sparrow
Anyone know of a good material pack on sale? Would like to try and take advantage of this last day of spring sale
wheat jetty
Stone Tiles Pack 7 - Pavement by Immersive Estate in Materials - UE4 Marketplace
There is a stone tiles pack on sale for 10 bucks.
Don’t know if that’s what your looking for
copper sparrow
ah just any generic stuff, i picked up a $20bill off the ground the other day so
thought it's a good excuse to blow it on a spring sale hahah
robust vector
So, its good to know Epic is helping sellers hide technical problems with their assets. I'm sure that really encourages people to buy.
worthy pawn
how long do i have left? purchasing frenzy
robust vector
I think I'm done using the marketplace as a buyer
If I see something I like I'll just pm the author and ask them if they have it up for sale somewhere else.
worthy pawn
cheer up fangster
how long do i have?
i should sleep on it before checking out but i can never work out US >> UK time
robust vector
Its 8pm here, so 4 hours, I think
worthy pawn
really? ends march 13th 11:59pm EST
robust vector
Oh, 28 hours then lol
sinful kelp
So you guys got the security updates email?
delicate dove
yup
sinful kelp
this ain't showing up....
delicate dove
O_o
shadow inlet
Could be yours has been verified already?
sinful kelp
Possibly my account was made in jan/feb of this year
shadow inlet
Then you're probably alright, but if you want to send me a DM with your details, I can follow up.
sinful kelp
Sure
robust vector
@shadow inlet Something really disconcerting has happened and it would be great if somebody from Epic could weigh in here https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/marketplace/creators-hub/1442442-epic-an-accomplice-in-hiding-issues-with-products
delicate dove
already send it to her hehe
shadow inlet
I messaged the team to get more details surrounding the situation and then we'll chime in.
robust vector
Its certainly disappointing behavior on the part of Epic.
ebon leaf
In previous instances actually hateful comments directed at peopole haven't been removed until multiple of us reach out to epic staff we have had good relationships with, and only after multiple days of hassling them... meanwhile someone raises a legit question about a product and it gets taken down? lol... gg epic.
In an unrelated matter - I'd like all the comments that don't say my products are perfect removed, as well as any ratings that aren't 5/5. Thank you 
delicate dove
ooh, same! :p
shadow inlet
I'm sorry that previously removing hateful comments has been difficult. Our team has tried to be more proactive in removing such comments recently. I'll give you all an update once I've had a chance to chat with the team.
robust vector
I would certainly prefer than no comments be removed than see legitimate issues with products be swept under the rug
Every negative experience a customer has with the marketplace hurts the marketplace as a whole
last mango
The entire system of customers providing feedback needs an massive overhaul
supple moon
I think the MP team has a really hard time satisfying some of the sellers here since one day they will complain about one thing, then the next complain about something that contradicts the previous complaint.
I only want the MP team to ensure better quality art assets are posted
that spear pack looks like decent enough animations, better than a lot of other animations on MP
in short, less hipoly auto unwrapped art
last mango
@supple moon Not sure i follow with the contradicting requests?
I think most of the MP requests have been pretty succinct
ebon leaf
@supple moon dunno if that was directed at me... I barely comment here anymore 😛 Some level of consistency would go a long way in offering some sort of satisfaction to most of us though 😉
supple moon
@ebon leaf not you at all 😄
I just remember a couple of months ago there was lots of complaining about how people who don't own assets leave negative comments and should be removed, and then the opposite now like it's some conspiracy lol
ebon leaf
oh lol. I think it should say whether someone owns an asset or not next to their comment... but tbh, if its legitimate conversation about the product I don't see any reason to remove it. shrugs
supple moon
And you are right, but what I notice here is the thought line of the complainers is that anyone using their own skeleton, or modification of the epic skeleton for animations should have their stuff taken down because of guidlines, Eg Ironbelly and others, and I think that's stupid because their content is good and pretty much the best option for anyone prototyping
It would be great for their competition however, but the competition quality is really bad to begin with
so in the end the cutomers would suffer
ebon leaf
True. I don't really see the issue with it... it was more the attitude presented in that PM that irked me haha
supple moon
Oh, I might have missed the PM scrolls
supple moon
I guess he went to the effort of asking him to remove the comment, to play devils advocate, adding an extra bone is pretty much commonplace at this point for anyone animating weapons, and getting a comment from another seller who themselves posts animation assets might set off alarm bells
it's his first day sales too, getting a comment from another seller might feel a bit conspiratorial 😛
ebon leaf
I don't appreciate the "then what are they doing trying to make games" attitude lol... that's really not a good attitude for people to have in a marketplace like this... heaps of our customers are people new, or people with specific skill sets that have very little idea about other skills needed, and trying to fill those gaps, etc. I just feel like everything could have been handled a little better lol. But you do raise good points there about how it may appear from their perspective.
supple moon
Then to compound it, you take a flip to the quality of the animations of the complainers page and you go "oh come on"
but maybe that's a step too far 😛
ebon leaf
lol
supple moon
I agree with you on the "why are they trying to make games" part, to be honest I think that's the moral quandary of MP, since a vast amount of customers that buy products won't ship a game and sellers know that
ebon leaf
Yah. I understand where the attitude comes from, but I don't think that makes it okay shrugs that's all.
supple moon
Yeah it's not ok, it's the worst opinion to have considering how many customers are new!
robust vector
I don't sell any animation packs. I actually buy quite a lot of them though, so I check that category pretty often.
I think part of the issue is, the MP team tries to strip any nuance out of our complaints and suggestions. "Allow sellers to report trolling and spam in comments to have them removed" becomes "Allow sellers to have comments removed"
robust vector
I need a better name for a feature I just added that I'm calling "Tri-axis double-ellipse interpolated acceleration profiles"
ebon leaf
"thingymajig" or "whosywhatsit" is always a good safe bet
robust vector
Idk, I don't want to get too many support requests.
ebon leaf
oh right... "complicated programmer whatchamacallit".... that way no one will even try to use it 😃
robust vector
Basically it lets you use structs with 2 vectors in them to define your max acceleration and max speed for each of the 6 axes
It then interpolates between them by treating them as the major and minor axes of ellipses and calculating the radius
So you run faster forward....
ebon leaf
Yeah I got no good ideas for names 😛
modern perch
I kinda feel like you could hit two birds with one stone by having the associated forum thread embedded within a product instead of the current comments system
it's got it's cons, but at the same time all the discussion regarding said product, and the support thread is right there
ebon leaf
not with the forums as useless as they are it isn't 😛 but it is a better idea than the current comments lol
modern perch
the forums are considerably less useless than the current comments system :p
added bonus, the forum threads are covered by the moderation system too, so spam can be culled more easily
ebon leaf
I dunno... thos forum moderators are pretty dodgy though
swift leaf
So I'm thinking about releasing a modular cart/wagon pack with a larger cart w/ removable roof and wheels. I have the model's and textures ready it, I'm wondering what other stuff I may need to do before uploading onto the marketplace, and how much you guys think it would be. This is very early work btw. Will I have to do anything in the engine? Such as do the materials in UE4, or should I leave it to the customer
delicate dove
delicate dove
k, that tool just saved me two hours of work
swift leaf
@delicate dove fucking love your work man
delicate dove
thanks
wooden falcon
hmm...idea for a pack...a dumpster mesh with fire particles streaming from it...I'll title it The Marketplace :/
wooden falcon
wow, work-in-progress certainly turned into a dumpster fire
real dust
Yup, sorry about that
wooden falcon
any last minute ideas for must have packs to buy off the MP?
robust vector
buy 38 of this https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/scifi-warrior-viktor-armored-soldier-character
wooden falcon
hehe
north stirrup
@robust vector Not familiar with this kind of assets, but the video feels weird, with the character not moving: https://youtu.be/iUcZzECBR8I
robust vector
I thought it would be better to put it on a turntable than to possess it and play as it, because the camera angle is better and you can watch the animations play from 360 degrees to see that it is weighted well.
north stirrup
You could do the same, but with the character moving
Having the camera locked on him, and rotating
Might not look great though with all the cam movements 🤔
lone mountain
**PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL UE4 GAME ART **
MAKE X+ Forward GREAT AGAIN!!!!
sinful kelp
@robust vector why not just add scketchfab/marmoset links to the product page?
robust vector
I can't replicate my ue4 materials in sketchfab and I don't know what a marmoset is.
Its also easy to rip models from sketchfab...
@lone mountain Did you buy something that turned out to be Y forward?
robust vector
Something from Ironbelly?
lone mountain
Had to have another team member rotate them for me so I could use em
Well iron belly is bad also
but they aren't the only ones
sleek crypt
Is using Rama's save system a no brainer? I mean for what it cost why should anyone waste even 8 hours on writing his own?
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/rama-save-system
real dust
Yeah I wouldn't mind some suggestions for cool stuff either
Haven't had the time to go through the sale this time
Haven't spent any money 😦
robust vector
Does it need to be on sale?
Cause I released this last week. https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/cyberneticist-zeke-heavy-armored-scifi-technician
Can't wait for that magical first customer
This is on sale https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/animated-fps-m203-grenade-launcher-with-vfx-sfx-and-bonus-attachments
Or you could go with this if you want something more retro https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/animated-fps-m79-grenade-launcher-with-vfx-and-sfx
real dust
Don't really have a use for that
I would also personally never (more or less) buy a character because of that
robust vector
I bought a crosshair pack that looks decent
robust vector
Another day, another character preview video I need to put together. https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/cybernetic-ninja-rex-enhanced-stealth-martial-artist-assassin
wooden falcon
I bought an vfx pack from Luos, about to buy another
wanted to buy a blueprint, but can never find any thing look good to me
and there's a metric shit-ton of them
not including today's sales, I've made $666 (after Epic's 30%) from this sale :/truely the devil's twerk
pseudo sundial
Ugh, first time seeing a -1 yesterday with no reasoning. I sent an email out to marketplace-support and hopefully they get back to me soon. Probably fraudulent
wooden falcon
😦
surreal walrus
Is there a category on the UE marketplace or another website that sells entire source codes (functional games) ? Not just modules or individual assets
surreal walrus
Any idea?
wooden falcon
not really :/ most people who do complete games don't release source
surreal walrus
ah
wooden falcon
there might be really small games people did as programming projects
ancient flame
Hey what can I do if I purchased the wrong item in the Marketplace? Is it possible to do a refund so I can buy the correct item?
delicate dove
generally I doubt they accept that as an excuse, but you can try and asking the mp team
ancient flame
@delicate dove Cheers. Is anyone from that team on here?
delicate dove
ancient flame
Allrighty, I'll try that. Thanks
elfin plinth
my favourite messed up art asset is the meadow pack from quixel
I mean, it's megascans, you can't expect game ready stuff
but it's pretty absurdly made pack
like, I can appreciate getting all the atlases, but it's not really that good practice to have game assets that use 20% of the UV space (they don't even use half of the textures from the atlas)
again, I don't really mind that, I'd reproject those myself anyway
then additionally, project comes with source fbx files
which I guess is handy if you want to export things out as you don't really need to export
but I thought it would be on marketplace guidelines that you don't put raw files in the packages or is it not?
the real issue with that is that since they are there, UE4 thinks those files have been changed and it asks if you want to reimport them
if you answer yes, it reimports them but without the tweaked import angle
so every plant will rotate 90 degrees to point sideways
then the lods for tiny objects, there's like 4 lods where top of the plant is first four quads, then two, then one and then it's one big chunk, nobody can tell a difference between first 3 lods just by looking at the asset, unless you do a game where you are an insect 😃
shadow inlet
Regarding the comments that were removed yesterday, the team chatted about it and determined that an error in judgement was made. The comments made were legitimate, and the seller's request was not out-of-line. However, the review of the comments should not have resulted in removal.
We will still review all requests flagging comments and remove those that we deem as hateful, trolling, or otherwise an attack on the seller, but not simply because they are negative in nature.
delicate dove
thank you Amanda 😃
worthy pawn
shopping cart just went from 13 to 0
anyway to retrieve what was in there?
user in top right changed to 'zovos'
logged out and in again and cart reset again
are there tech probs?
phew.. browser related i think. recovered
wooden falcon
wow, that's scary, considering the problems they've had in the past
idle arch
Thanks for letting us know @worthy pawn.
candid rivet
anyone know if i can pull apart materials that use the substance plugin so i don't need to use the substance plugin?
ah nm, wasn't on sale anyway. only bought 1 thing
lone mountain
Now if only X+ for Forward all UE4 Art Assets could be enforced by MP team, instead of the simple Unity ports coming over...
supple moon
even though the default ue4 pawn is offset by 90 xD
real dust
How do you know my name? 🤔
lunar fractal
Other victor 😉
leaden root
robust vector
All the animation softwares are Y forward, so its understandable that ue4 has Y- characters as the standard, but there is no excuse for anything else to not be X+
robust vector
Is vault searching broken for anyone else?
worthy pawn
i just use the content pages as i've purchased everything!
can't pay the rent now but i've got digital things on my HD heh 😉
delicate dove
@lone mountain I agree that this is something that the marketplace should enforce.
zealous ibex
That isn't being enforced already? 🤔
wooden falcon
well my final sales total for the Spring Sale was 754 units, for a total of $1083 (before Epic's 30%)
zealous ibex
Nice 😮
wooden falcon
I guess the secret was to just sell for almost nothing :/
people really do buy cheap stuff
zealous ibex
^ Yep, that works pretty well, but results may be less the next round as everyone already has your assets 😛
zealous ibex
SC sold about 350 units the first time I believe, it still sold a lot this time, but less...that could be related to other factors too though
(at $0.50.....think it was/is the cheapest item on sale 😛 )
wooden falcon
yah, at that price, people will buy something almost sight unseen :/
zealous ibex
Yep, but I just want SC to be used a ton as I personally think using those darn configuration files for steam is way too much hassle 😛
wooden falcon
I've already gotten 3 ratings out of it, so I'm happy
zealous ibex
Nice 👍 Got a few ratings myself too, and I'm actually surprised at how small the number of support requests I've gotten is 😛 Maybe that's still to come
Anyway, glad going this route seems to have been beneficial to you during this sale 😃
wooden falcon
yah, people haven't d/l everythng yet 😃
zealous ibex
(Also, I wonder what doing a post sale sale will be like 🤔)
(currently still have my assets on sale)
Exposure seems like it's pretty decent, but I wonder if people are still looking for deals/missed the previous sale
Poor Epic, their servers must be dying 😂
idle arch
Good morning ya'll. 😉
zealous ibex
Good Morning @idle arch 👋
wooden falcon
hello!
idle arch
How is everyone doing?
delicate dove
well.. it all started when I was just born and both my parents wherent there.
hehe
wooden falcon
lol
were or weren't? cause that would be really weird if your mom wasn't there for your birth :/
delicate dove
zealous ibex
Oooh, 2FA is enabled now ❤
idle arch
❤
wooden falcon
now we can has tags? 😃
delicate dove
tags @wooden falcon you're it!
robust vector
Pretty much
My 2nd latest character got pushed off the front page in less than a day and my current latest probably won't last long.
Also I have a new bug I'm trying to solve in my advanced movement plugin.
ebon leaf
Dear all Marketplace devs - when can we expect the 4.19 version of your products? Sincerely, impatient customer 😛
delicate dove
did we get an email about it?
ebon leaf
Nah no email yet. But I'm getting amazing download speeds of <500kb/sec... so assuming plenty of people are jumping on the update already 😛 (usually get 12mb/sec lol)
delicate dove
i'll wait a little bit hehe. most will prolly work out of the box anyway (luckily)
ebon leaf
damn you art-based sellers 😛
delicate dove
non-copyrighted cross ftw
I hope they dont get comments with "y u no red cross?!"
robust vector
Red plus
idle arch
Red++, a new programming language is born this day!
robust vector
The only programming language you can't legally use on a white background
idle arch
Thankfully you can change the color of your favorite IDE.
zealous ibex
4.19 released?! O.o
ebon leaf
Yep
Heads up to anyone - if you have any float variables that you called "Opacity", converting to 4.19 will rename references them to "Render Opacity" and, obviously, stop them from working correctly 🙃
In blueprints this is
shadow geyser
is marketplace down cant seem to load it?
idle arch
It just loaded for me @shadow geyser
But I am on our network. Anyone else having issues?
ebon leaf
seems fine to me
idle arch
It might be isolated to you @shadow geyser, I just had someone off site check.
idle arch
@here ICYMI: For the Sellers portal, we have enabled 2 Factor Authentication as a requirement. If you've not seen it already, you will need to set it up the next time you log in to your portal.
lone mountain
@idle arch Not bad, have you all mandated every MP seller to abide by UE4 X+ Forward standards yet by any chance? How's the progress on that going? It should already be a prerequisite in the MP checklist, but obviously the MP auditors don't care about that kind of stuff since it keeps letting them in. Definitely would love to see a mandated call go out to all sellers to rotate all their assets correctly instead of just porting over their Unity assets.
Damn you Discord no-auto-scroll
idle arch
@lone mountain I am not sure, but I will find out tomorrow.
lone mountain
Awesomsauce @idle arch It's sad when you buy a $300 MP asset to find out they are oriented the wrong way
And you have to devote time (yourself or someone else on the team) to fixing it...
Especially at that price
But there are plenty more throughout the MP lands
lilac heath
sorry for jumping in , but i was not aware of requirement to orientate the mesh in a certain way. is this mentioned on the asset seller guide lines? or have i just missed it ( i have not released this asset yet so any assistance here would be ace)
delicate dove
its quite common knowledge that ue4 uses X+ as its main direction for forward
delicate dove
but yea, many miss it
lilac heath
i cant remembre seeing it but i mostly do BPs
lone mountain
Should be oriented x+
all your logic
if it is considered "forward"
you shouldn't use a scene comp to fake orient a mesh
I see that too often as well
wtf is that shit
lilac heath
good to know as it looks like my shiz is squint then lol ,
lone mountain
Anyway, not in guidelines https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/marketplace-guidelines, but looing for that checklist
I can't find that damn thing anywhere
anyone have link
?
lilac heath
i did not think it was in the gude lines , i read that about 50 times
sullen lion
incorrect orientation can actually break game logic
idle arch
Yea, I am reading over it. It makes sense, There MAY be some reason it is not, BUT, I will find out tomorrow. Keep me honest and follow up with me tomorrow?
lone mountain
@idle arch Yeah, no worries I will. I mean, it doesn't look like its on the checklist anymore, or maybe never was and it was all in my head. But I mean, X+ is forward in UE4, so everything should be oriented correctly.
@sullen lion And ypu
lilac heath
Thanks for the data.
idle arch
Like I said, I'll take a look - it may be something perfectly valid, it may be something that got over looked in the process. We'll find out 😃
idle arch
The conversation has been started Victor. Like I said, keep me honest on this. Next week is GDC,s o I don't want to set an expectation that something (if anything) will happen in the next few days. But the conversation is being had.
lone mountain
@idle arch I'll ping you again about it in 2-3 weeks, no worries. I'll forget, until I see the weapons pack again in my art folders
Thanks!
It's a simple fix on sellers, so it shouldn't be grandfathered
Just like the supposed 30day (or less) timeframe sellers have for getting an update to the newest engine version until they get booted off
wooden falcon
anything in particularly cool about 4.19?
harsh coral
material layers ?
robust vector
Select deals on my products all week. Take a peek. https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/Black Fang Technologies
leaden root
10/10 link
robust vector
I have brought a great shame upon my people.
There is no seppuku emoji so I cannot atone.
delicate dove
i think I went a little overboard with my preview map, but since the theme was triangles..
https://i.gyazo.com/16c2c9fa980dcf366bbfe36bcecc8116.jpg
https://i.gyazo.com/9da6a85b2239d76436427c4844c5265d.jpg thats better :p
lean venture
I think the platforms would look better with a simple outline and a contrast between the thickness of their horizontal and vertical "parts" than in a single color and with steps because too many edges may distract from the actual content that's on them. Regardless, very cool idea ✅
robust vector
If anyone here feels like voting on what assets we should make next, here is the link to our poll https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/marketplace/1444120-what-products-would-you-like-to-see-next
wooden falcon
cool, 6 ratings so far from the sale
wth, a non sale-sell yesteday? someone timed that one wrong
robust vector
When somebody votes 'Other' in your poll but doesn't reply to the thread 😕
I really miss the days of the pre-downgrade forum when you could get all those delicious views on your threads and people would even reply to them.
harsh coral
that somebody was me, and you can thank my gf for distracting me
harsh coral
ok
"Your posts will be placed in moderation queue awaiting approval. "
says i have 0 posts, but i'm pretty sure i posted on the forums before .. not much but 5-7 times at least..
zealous ibex
Why is UE4.19 so large?! It's taking forever to download for me :|
oak thistle
Install size is pretty much the same as 4.18.
zealous ibex
Yeah....but still, UE4 is large in general
I'm ommiting the symbols as then I'll be waiting till tomorrow too 😂
#PleaseDontBreakAnythingThatCausesMyPluginsToCrashEpic
harsh coral
i just glanced at the changelog, seems to be a lot of api changes or i got the wrong impression
harsh coral
well you asked about areas the MP isnt meeting our needs
for me that would be proper packs
if you buy stuff purely for prototypes i guess it's not that much of an issue
it's hard to find enough content from different sellers or even the same that would fit together in a single game
I'd buy a pack of modern civilians, if they offered enough variety and looked decent
robust vector
I want to put out a pack of male and female models with a bunch of interchangeable clothes to mix and match, but its going to take a bit to plan everything and have all the pieces sculpted
harsh coral
i know it's a huge undertaking, but i also think it could be the equivalent of a battle royale template
probably a lot of archviz people would be interested also
robust vector
I've heard other people ask for it, so I think it will be worth it.
oak thistle
Can someone tell me what the latest is regards confirming someone has bought an asset of mine?
Do I need to ask the buyer for some details and then send those to Epic myself?
north stirrup
I think you have to ask him its order id, and send that to Epic for confirmation
delicate dove
yup
delicate dove
sometimes
still waiting on an email about someone not being able to see any maps in my cavepack and them verifying it
oak thistle
Fun times.
lone mountain
Should just do what steam does
oak thistle
Almost as much fun as UE wanting to compile over 10000 shaders when upgrading project from 4.19 P5 to P6. And then wanting to do it again for 4.19.0 upgrade.
lone mountain
Key Verification
I am sure it's something simple and easy for Epic to set up for Sellers
oak thistle
easy for Epic being the key point there 😉
zealous ibex
😂 Maybe we'll get it some day
wooden falcon
Unity has it
delicate dove
"https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/trucks-pack"
features:
Super low poly trucks.Each truck is 1154 Polygons.
tech details:
Vertex Count: 834 per truck
"Quality painted textures in TGA format"
this is not how anything of this works
robust vector
You can either be low poly-count stylized, or you can be realistic, but you can't be both.
Anyone know when the next featured rotation starts?
delicate dove
oh shii good that you mention it
waxen jay
my god, wheres the quality control nowadays, neither steam nor ue cares about that :<. i bet that i could do a better job in a day with 0 experience in modeling
robust vector
@waxen jay You could post your thoughts in this thread and maybe we could try to get Epic to look at the poll. https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/marketplace/1439127-the-lack-of-quality-control-hurts-the-marketplace-do-you-agree-that-overall-quality-is-low
waxen jay
personally from what i have seen, i dont think that epic gives a squat about that, as long as its profitable for them. Even the last thread exposing whats going in the marketplace was shutdown immediately.
I dont have a grudge toward them, I think they are doing a great job with engine related stuff, but it seems that the marketplace is not their top priority. That being said I will try to post my opinion, just want to help people like you who are doing an amazing job. I'm not a marketplace seller myself, thus I'm not that really worried. But from your perspective its probably a little bit frustrating
robust vector
I sell and buy, so its frustrating to me twice over. I do my best to make sure all the technical requirements are met on my assets, only to see other people publish stuff that isn't even scaled correctly. Then, when I go to buy something, I can't sort through it all to find the good stuff.
waxen jay
their forum and marketplace needs a total revamp, but i doubt that it will even happen this year. There's more important stuff on their table. But its hard to blame them, if you consider that its a business and it needs a revenue to make money, without puting the marketplace into consideration. Ofc fixing these issues would benefit them, but maybe they are short handed staff dunno
robust vector
They take 30% and don't invest a dime of it into improving the marketplace. If they would invest in search and discoverability it would pay for itself very soon with increased sales, but they don't care.
waxen jay
ye totally agree, i noticed a lot of people are using alternative sites like gumroad to sell their stuff, and the number is just increasing. ofc you need to have some kind of community/advertisement strategy to promote your creations. I'm a web dev myself and its a bit painful to watch how they are incapable of implementing such minor features
just looked up what frameworks they are using for their website and from front-end perspective (side that user sees/interacts) it made me giggle a little bit 😄
http://prntscr.com/irs3ag
north stirrup
Why?
waxen jay
it wouldnt take a day to implement the features that black fang mentioned
robust vector
I still get errors from the forum when loading threads. Sometimes it says I'm not authorized to view a thread I started. Other times it just says it couldn't load and to try again later.
robust vector
Its been a while since they switch now and it seems like they stopped working on forum bugs entirely
waxen jay
you can buy a forum license like for 500$/year and 0 bugs
but hey its epic games
i would have offered them to use vbulletin, but for my surprise they are using the exact one :D, no idea how it can have bugs
north stirrup
Because it's not that easy
They had to import old posts
Those are the one with issues
lone mountain
they aren't using Vbulletin anymore?
waxen jay
if their old forum was vbulletin then its easy to import old threads
lone mountain
Yeah, it was
waxen jay
currently its vbulletin
robust vector
I get errors loading threads I just made
lone mountain
that shit is sex
waxen jay
just changed the theme 😄
lone mountain
100x better already
waxen jay
you dont even need to maintain the forum, vbulletin does it for you
lone mountain
robust vector
It took too long to get dark mode out. Their default mode already drove most people away
lone mountain
does tagging even work ?
robust vector
I put the tag 'marketplace content' on my last poll, so if you look for that and my poll comes up I guess it works.
I almost forgot I was working on this at one point
Knowing what I do now I might be able to revisit that and turn it into a decent pack.
Def needs some work
waxen jay
ISS concept would be cool
robust vector
There were a lot of nuances about normal baking that were driving me insane back then.
I got inspired to do space stuff after I watched 'Life'
oak thistle
I think some of those errors actually relate to Epic's account login system rather than the forum itself.
You'll get the 'not authorised' message on the Creator's Hub if you're not logged in. And lately it seems to throw me back and forth from logged in to logged out without any obvious reason.
Seller portal also has issues that I think may be related.
wooden falcon
jesus, this guy is a genius of low poly: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/polygon-war-pack
I mean, just look at this: https://cdn1.epicgames.com/ue/product/Screenshot/DestroyedVeh-1920x1080-ca8819b3573fac9a18e2e9621153afb8.jpg
zealous kelp
its a company from new zealand i think not sure how many people but i think a few
wooden falcon
ah, cool
I thought it was a single person 😃
I was about to go all Number One Fan:
delicate dove
@wooden falcon thats how you do low poly compared to aforementioned truck hehe
they must be banking on all their top notch lopo
wooden falcon
yah, they have a huge amount of stuff on the MP
it's really embarrassing, cause I see that stuff, think "that's so inspiring and probably really easy to do!" then try it and it comes out like shit
obviously it's not as simple as it looks to get that good a style
supple moon
ye
you would have to really get your style down, consistency is really good on that stuff
ebon leaf
Pretty normal after sales. I was surprised I got a couple haha
oak thistle
So just reading through this on Creator's Hub: https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/marketplace/creators-hub/1439909-asset-declined-with-reason-yet-again
Does this mean they're saying they no longer accept any third party licensed content in a pack? Like freely licensed icons, fonts, etc?
delicate dove
not sure actually. its a bit of an odd situation
oak thistle
Well, all I can say is, if that's the case then my future demo projects are going to look really, really bad 😉
sullen gulch
Hi..
Do anyone here know about any cheap/free landscape material templates?
Like a fully working material with layers, slope blend, displacement and tesselation. But without textures?
I find it hard to setup displacement on the layers for the material i'm using.
It's blended in a way that makes it difficult to add in a blend node for the displacements on all layers without outputting the whole MAT black, and without any working layers....
delicate dove
harsh coral
good stuff
it has good variety allready, but how about some more traditional 'realistic' effects ?
there's a couple of campfires and smoke, do you have more ?
(for a game that does not have any magical effects or abilities)
candid rivet
hehe fire guy reminds of howl's moving castle
delicate dove
@harsh coral that could warrant another pack. at one point I just need to call it done else I keep adding more and more and end up with a pack that needs a price that nobody wants hehe
ebon leaf
That's a beautiful particle pack ❤
robust vector
I wish we could set up bundles like they are done on steam instead of uploading them as separate products.
Just mark products that are part of the bundle and let people who already have some of the bundle have a discount on the bundle price.
harsh coral
that's actually a good idea
robust vector
The way it works now I don't see a point in doing bundles
harsh coral
win-win for sellers and buyers
robust vector
People would be much more likely to upgrade to the whole bundle if they already have something. As it is now you feel like you have to buy something twice.
harsh coral
idk why they are so idle with the MP
even if it's not worth to them money wise, i'd put someone to work on it for a day or two just to keep this vocal minority happy, and build a good image
delicate dove
mp generates quite some money, but its peanuts compared to i.e. fortnite
harsh coral
i know but it's not always about money
well mostly it's about money but not in the short term always
i guess projects that rely on MP assets aren't that likely to bring in big numbers of money
delicate dove
ark and that conan game use it quite extensively
harsh coral
😄
delicate dove
and a lot of even bigger comps use blockout props and placeholders
harsh coral
ark is still built as shootergame.exe...
delicate dove
hehe
harsh coral
i tried conans mod kit almost a year ago when it came out and it had a lot of unused MP assets
was really surprised to see that
well even more reason then why it should be sensible to invest a little in the MP
delicate dove
weve been saying/telling/asking that for years, some promises where made last month-ish, lets hope they dont break em 😃
robust vector
I'm sure PUBG gave them a decent amount in royalties, and it was built from 90% MP assets
Normal and AO bake came out well
robust vector
Welp, never seen this one before. I tried to like somebody's reply on the forum and got
Error loading delete form.
Please try again.
Error information: " 200 parsererror SyntaxError: Unexpected token < in JSON at position 0"
I almost feel like I'm risking the birth of Skynet or maybe identity theft when I log in to this forum.
rare lynx
I get a weird error when trying to access the marketplace from the forum
Had to use a direct link to one of my packages
robust vector
Invalid Page URL. If this is an error and the page should exist, please contact the system administrator and tell them how you got this message.
Got that when clicking the marketplace button at the top of the page
The whole thing feels like its falling apart
robust vector
I would actually rather they consistently didn't work instead of working sometimes and sometimes not, because that's just weird.
fleet garnet
I simply can't believe this https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/ai-blueprint-car
read the description and now read mine https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/item/dec7a44f06c54ff28d2db5b62574629c
they also named the components the same name I did, but their pathfinding just follows a spline, how is that pathfinding?
and they just copied the tutorial from a forum guy who did a spline following vehicle AI and they named it Advanced pathfinding 😐 🔫
they copied from Peter L. Newton
he made a tutorial on this and this is basically his tutorial
blazing harbor
lol.... he even used the same level? wow.
fleet garnet
I'm not sure if I should tag Amanda or contact support
sullen lion
pffft
blazing harbor
i think they should really expand the scope of the whole whether or not the system is easily creatable for code assets. If this kinda stuff is gonna be allowed. the Marketplace is gonna be a junk yard of 5 minute blueprints being put up every few mins
delicate dove
@shadow inlet ^^^ few lines up
blazing harbor
he copied your description like.. word for word. im pretty sure its safe to say all of the stuff is 'borrowed'
delicate dove
some ball-droppings on the mp
@fleet garnet its best to email marketplace support as well
fleet garnet
I was like, this seems nice.... wait a second, this looks familiar
sullen lion
I think I'm going to make a wrapper on the savegame system and then see if I can put it up
owait
blazing harbor
im surprised he didnt just link to that tutorial for his video demo. why bother wasting his own time making a video showing it off
@sullen lion just do a TPS template and add doN for a double jump and release "super customizable double jump system"
robust vector
Here I am wasting my time programming, modelling, and texturing all original stuff when I should just be flipping tutorial blueprints
sullen lion
Ooh I know - I can make a function lib which just prints to the screen and call it Uber Debug Strings
fleet garnet
he released 3 things today and all are "borrowed", he even has a collection, what a nice guy https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/NicholasRoe
blazing harbor
post a comment on each one and just say "this asset in on sale for free right now!" and link to the actual tutorials
sullen lion
I'd probably be making a lot more money if I could get my pride and concern for having to support stuff out of the way.
You know that's gotta be the easiest support ever
just link the tut and say "Hey here's how you can do all this on your own, know you know how it all works and how to fix"
blazing harbor
@sullen lion well yes. because newbs don't know what they dont know yet. so they will get suckered by this crap. Epic MP team is there to protect THEM which in turn protects the sellers that actually make fresh assets. but if anything goes. then there really is no reason to put any kinda quality out.
sullen lion
not sure they can really check for tut copying tho
particularly with BP
Ought to be able to check code for plagiarism tho
shadow inlet
@fleet garnet - Please report them to the MP team at marketplace-support@unrealengine.com
I'll follow up when I'm not on a train!
delicate dove
@shadow inlet trainjam ftw
sullen lion
If he did, there's another tutorial rip on the MP and its so bad
blazing harbor
well i think more important than tutorial copying is just making sure the asset has some value really. like if it can be created in 5 mins. its probably not something thats worth selling
fleet garnet
Ok, thanks, I will send an email tomorrow morning
shadow inlet
Thank you!
ebon leaf
I can't download ArtV1, I click install to engine and nothing happens. This is not the case for any other plugin I have purchased; does anyone have a direct link or a solution to this issue?
fleet garnet
I had this problem with my plugin, it turned out that I sent broken files, I would contact the developer
robust vector
I think I had somebody message me about that before, and the only thing I can say is contact Epic
Or if you contact the author, maybe they can send you a direct download
ebon leaf
I see, thanks
robust vector
Seeing those tutorial flips is really demotivating though
Probably took less time to make the whole asset than I spend mocking up a material to check my bakes.
delicate dove
hehe
fleet garnet
they could of at least write their own description 🤦
blazing harbor
registers TutFlipper username at epic
fleet garnet
lol
sullen lion
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
everything I flip is approved
freemoney.exe
robust vector
I wonder how many sales that stuff actually gets though
blazing harbor
well it also just saturates the market making it tough to find quality
delicate dove
looking at the smoothing groups on some of his mp packs I bet he ripped the models from something as well
fleet garnet
gonna go sleep, need to regenerate my brain cells after this
oak thistle
@fleet garnet Maybe I'm missing something, or maybe someone screwed up even more, not sure. But just letting you know that for whatever reason, your AI asset is showing as 'Unavailable'.
sudden mason
How do I report a seller? I've tried reaching out to make them sell the assets they made from my tutorial for the minimum price but they didn't comply. Now, I want them gone.
nova scaffold
I'll follow up when I'm not on a train!```@sudden mason ^ was the same question
@fleet garnet this is fun 😄 What surprises me is how BP only assets that do physics interaction can actually pass to MP
sudden mason
Thanks
nova scaffold
the whole interaction will collapse at different FPS - this can't be used in game or in anything that is suppose to run on more than a single machine
oak thistle
Don't be surprised.
The MP reviewers have about as much understanding of how the engine works as Epic's support staff on AH do 😉
Hell, there are packs on the MP that claim to support BP multithreading by just spawning threads and calling into arbitrary blueprints. No consideration of the fact that BP isn't threadsafe, or that huge numbers of blueprint nodes call functions that assert they're being run on the game thread...
nova scaffold
I don't expect them to be very knowlagable or experience in UE4, but there should be some sort of checklist, which either funnels it to one person who deals with this kind of assets or to get an opinion from someone who is experienced.
but yeah, it's not something that is easy to deal with
oak thistle
Honestly, right from the start I didn't think curation was going to be feasible.
No curation + good searching and filtering is way better than bad curation + terrible tools/interface, I think.
nova scaffold
can't open MP website
ohh launcher is dead to, nevermind then
@oak thistle
No curation + good searching and filtering is way better than bad curation + terrible tools/interface, I think.
Is Unity MP done this way?
real dust
Yup
Unity doesn't have any kind of decent curation, but you can easily find decent stuff due to the awesome search functionality
delicate dove
@sudden mason I already emailed the mp team twice about it, twice replied with we'll look into it but nothing.
sudden mason
Bleh
delicate dove
might be more leverage is the actual tut maker tells em to remove it
nova scaffold
@sudden mason did he used your assets from tutorial?
sudden mason
I haven't downloaded it and checked but they are so similar so it's not impossible
delicate dove
looking at his other content, he did the same with some other tutorials as well
nova scaffold
could include a license agreement into the assets attached to tutorial, to have at least some legal grounds