yup
#fab
wooden falcon
robust vector
Do you put the high poly scans up for sale anywhere?
robust vector
You should consider putting them up on places like CGTrader. I use bone scans for stamps/brushes when sculpting and good ones are hard to find
wooden falcon
he did this based off some of them: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/hellish-ruins-mini-pack
I'll consider it
and btw, thx Grep 😃
hallow wagon
np
wooden falcon
if you like any of them, please leave a rating/review...they're hard to come by
and suggestions
hallow wagon
Was about to say after my team plays with them I'll get their feedback and I'll post it.
wooden falcon
cool 😃
hallow wagon
I was going to get UWorks, but noone was responding to my questions about it.
lol
One thing that I won't buy from any marketplace is audio.
robust vector
Well, I have to make a networked project to test my own stuff, so I'll try to use UWorks in it as well.
hallow wagon
My friend that does audio would probably stop being my friend. lol
Let me know how it goes compared to not using it and just SteamSDK.
(From what I can tell is UWorks is just the wrapper that implements everything from the SDK to BP/C++ better.)
Which is that's right then I'd say it's not worth $100.
imo
Now that I have everything that is useful to my project I think I'll buy some random stuff. Is this any good? https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/player-building-template
harsh coral
I would not recommend it for a serious project
you can get some insights and ideas for your own system
but even for the purpose of learning it's not the best example
for a single player it might be ok.. depending on what you want from it
if you think a game like rust it's a no go
clever falcon
I dream of a day where buying marketplace packs is a pleasant experience...and not a trash dump of failed QA.
zealous ibex
😦 sorry to hear you're having trouble
robust vector
Yeah, I steer clear of blueprint items
clever falcon
It's ok mate, just annoying how this hasn't gotten any better since marketplace initially launched
robust vector
Characters not rigged to the proper skeleton, animations missing IK bones, and blueprints being dumpster fires are the big 3 issues for me atm
clever falcon
Well, just general examples include, packs that add the whole /StarterContent/ pack into my project, or have content outside of the content Content/#PackName/ that arent used yet do exist in the download
hallow wagon
I thought Epic was doing asset review before posting public?
clever falcon
Or adding content pack that somehow also place a secondary .uproject file in your project
robust vector
Ironbelly weapon packs -_-
clever falcon
It's surface level stuff that should be easy to catch by QA
zealous ibex
Wait....those are horrible QA slips 🤔. They're usually quite strict about those things
robust vector
Ironbelly weapons are always split across several folders, y-forward instead of x, and use a strange and bloated naming convention, but they seem immune to QA
zealous ibex
When I last submitted blueprints they where really strict about folder structures, and I'm not quite sure what the example content guidelines are, I believe it's discouraged
clever falcon
Some packs had such deep folder and naming that it exceeded windows maximum path length haha, and my root project folder wasn't deep itself.
zealous ibex
Ouch
clever falcon
I don't dare to buy Blueprints, there is too little guarantee on quality or compatibility
harsh coral
if only it was folder structure/naming convention i had to cope with ...
robust vector
I got some kind of inventory system once, discovered it used set item slots because the guy didn't know how to use loops correctly and was adding 4 copies of an item into the inventory array every time you picked up something.
clever falcon
lol
zealous ibex
Ouch, please tell me if that's my system lol, but last time I checked it worked properly 🤔
robust vector
No, it wasn't from you
zealous ibex
Good, but yeah, I generally don't buy a lot of blueprints either, the only reason I buy them is to learn a new technique really, or templates, because they save you SO much work on a small prototype
lone mountain
Hmm, maybe after these contracts and the book, I'll give the MP a few packs of goodies
Pack #1: Victor's Horrible Dance MoCap
sullen lion
c o o l
glossy terrace
hope i can have few hour slip out perday for next marketplace item thou
ebon leaf
not sure if this is the right place to ask. i bought an asset from the ue4 store and I'm trying to export some texture files from it but i keep getting an error code 'insert disk into d drive' anyone had this issue before ?
robust vector
@ebon leaf never heard of that before
Are you trying to export onto a drive you don't have?
ebon leaf
basically when i right click i don't get a drop down menu. i just get the above error. it's weird.
robust vector
What pack is it?
ebon leaf
a redwoods pack
robust vector
If I had it I would try to see if I got the same message
ebon leaf
I've messaged the seller hopefully he can send them to me.
proud glacier
out of curiosity is anyone having trouble using paypal for the marketplace
delicate dove
is it bad to really love the package you are working on?
robust vector
In my experience, it means it won't sell well lol
delicate dove
hehe, I hated the progress on the fireworks pack and that one isnt selling too well
hopefully means the other way around in this case...
robust vector
Still working on the bio saw
Having a problem where decals aren't showing on skeletal meshes
(even though receive decals is checked)
harsh coral
wtf
are prices adjusted in real time to €
why do i have 3 tabs of the same asset with 3 different prices
yep.. hitting refresh changes the price
robust vector
There is a bug where it shows the price in the wrong currency
Once you try to purchase it will correct itself
(supposedly)
harsh coral
it's not $ vs €
robust vector
how large are the differences you are seeing?
ebon leaf
...lol
harsh coral
(whole cart)
robust vector
If they have bandwidth to calc exchange rates in real time I'm even more upset about not having real time sales stats
ebon leaf
Hope everyone else had wonderful sales 😃 I did nicely
harsh coral
sorry, by real time i meant, upon page load
ebon leaf
No noodle dinners for me in January ❤ haha
robust vector
@ebon leaf How do you know how you did?
ebon leaf
sales report?
robust vector
Why do you already have a sales report?
harsh coral
oh right.. i thought there was a new influx of survival games on steam 😛
robust vector
never knew they update different users at different times
ebon leaf
Might be based on timezones idk
I'm in Australia
so... I'm essentially from the future
😛
robust vector
I'm suprised they are competant enough to do it by timezone to be honest
Only 4 hours of sale left
ebon leaf
lol probably a hiccup in the system 😛
and maybe 4 hours left... last year the sale ran over by like 6 hours because it was (possibly still is) all manual XD
robust vector
Josh seemed pretty adamant that wouldn't happen this time
harsh coral
he double checked to set his alarm clock 😄
ebon leaf
lol shrugs it was good last time. I made a HEAP of sales in that 6 hours overtime haha
ebon leaf
Oh well. i did better than I had expected to at only 50% off so I don't mind either way haha. Hopefully this won't COMPLETELY cannibalise december sales haha
robust vector
I was hoping to also publish some content while the sale had eyes on the marketplace, but alas, they weren't processing reviews
tired flame
When does the sale end?
tired flame
In how many hours is that?
shadow inlet
Little less than four hours from now
tired flame
Ok cool then i’ll get out of bed again and start those purchases 😂
wooden falcon
so how's everyone's Cyber Monday been so far?
robust vector
Not having real time analytics makes it highly stressful
I try to cope by working and also vodka
wooden falcon
lol
I've prepared myself to be underwelmed
hope to at least get a couple of ratings out of it
robust vector
I have 6 ratings total
excluding ones that are me
Epic really does a good job getting people to rate 😑
I'd put people that leave ratings and comments into a raffle for a free product if I could
wooden falcon
yah, ratings are gold
more so even than reviews, I think...it's the first impression a new buyer sees
robust vector
Time to face the music
Well, people don't like my characters, but everything else sold well.
zealous ibex
Woooooooooooooooow, them sales stats amaze me
robust vector
@zealous ibex Did you get a lot of sales?
zealous ibex
Yep, mainly on the asset I put up at 90% off though lol
worthy pawn
@all thanks for all the discounts guys
glossy terrace
@worthy pawn you are welcome 😄
worthy pawn
24hrs is too short
from a buyers perspective i ended up buying some stuff without checking properly... and not buying stuff i would have bought had i had the chance to compare it to other similar offerings
robust vector
Its offset a bit by the dip in sales earlier this month
Looks like this month is going to be about 1.8ish times the sales of a normal month for me
Was hoping for a bit more with how people talked about it last year
worthy pawn
@ marketplace staff... really need wishlist functionality... and also a better way to manage purchased content
robust vector
And tags, and better search
worthy pawn
i've actually purchased more because of this though.. if i knew what i had already i'd probably not buy another spline thingy or model pack for xyz
so it's probably to the advantage of sellers in a way
guessing that the big regular spenders are actually the ones that lose track
wooden falcon
next time I guess I'll go for a deeper discount...in my own purchases, I tended to only buy stuff that was heavily discounted
worthy pawn
yea.. it got to a point yesterday where i had such little time left and so many products to review i just started ignoring the 30% off ones as i knew i could come back to it anytime
wooden falcon
oh well, got some cool stuff on the MP, and renewed my indie Substance Painter license for only $50, picked up a game on GoG cheap...not a bad Cyber Monday
worthy pawn
😉
picked up geoglyph 2 indie
wish i knew about the substance painter renewal though!
i think more and more is getting spent in the marketplace though overall?
but also more sellers?
robust vector
Today I get three different offers for contract work that seem way more legitimate than what I have been dealing with for the past month. Hopefully I don't need to obsess of the marketplace so much now.
Still going to try to finish up the projects I'm working on before Christmas though
Nothing says Christmas like a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ovxlYyN9qc
worthy pawn
hahah awesomely david cronenberg!
good to hear re. the work too.. i think it's a natural progression from the additional visibility
robust vector
Is the holiday sale supposed to be secret at the moment? There are people on the forum complaining that by the time they added everything to their cart the CM sale was over and they want a 'Christmas Sale'.
wooden falcon
don't think they've publicly announced it. Can't remember, did they have one last year?
robust vector
yes
wooden falcon
that's one big chicken
tame wasp
I'm considering releasing 2D isometric assets on UE4 marketplace. Any idea of what to expect as far as sales, would it be worth it? :P
I've got lots of cyberpunk type stuff but also have more generic stuff (tree's etc) planned.
harsh coral
you should release it to other marketplaces also
dont know how many people chose ue4 for their iso game
opal sphinx
release it on every possible market in every facet of the internet xd
delicate dove
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/smart-master-blueprints-package "material blueprints"
thats not a thing
its materials
its also not pbr, uses diffuse, its in the blueprint catagory, and its.. well.. a very basic material setup.
sullen lion
is knowledgeable about the marketplace in some capacity
is shocked utter trash is allowed on marketplace
robust vector
Those two options are mutually exclusive
I got more sale sales yesterday?
Well, I'm not complaining
crisp rapids
Different stock. I want to believe it's more expensive than the real thing.
Strangely the AKS comes with 20 textures and 9 materials, instead of 8 and 4. They also come with sounds, which is praise-worthy.
robust vector
AK vs AKS
The 'S' denotes a folding stock
Whereas 'M' would denote 'Modernizirovanniy' (modernized)
Probably would have been better to release as one pack though
humble stag
Does any other marketplace creator have missing sales data at the moment, or is it just me?
last mango
@humble stag Epic is currently doing maintenance so i would assume that the sales data is being affected as such.
humble stag
oki
robust vector
Government takes 30% and does roads, army, navy, airforce, fbi, cia, etc.
Epic takes 30% and does what exactly?
wooden falcon
not to defend them too much, but they give you a platform to sell your packs 😃
with a sizable audience
oak fiber
and an engine from which to make said product
robust vector
That's only because of how they set up the launcher and marketplace
Without those, the UE4 user base wouldn't be conditioned to not buy from other places
wooden falcon
eh, I think a lot still would, because of convenience
and because it gets some of that "Epic" brand rubbed off on it
they think (right or wrong) that Epic curates and will only let good content on, so no worries
robust vector
until they buy a character lol
The more I gross, the more noticeable that 30% chunk gets
wooden falcon
for all of the crap it has on it, I've seen some stuff browsing through Unity that made me go "Woah...that's pretty cool"
robust vector
I wonder how well blueprint packs do on here? Anytime I try to do a programming project it ends up as a plugin due to BP's limitations.
wooden falcon
I hear the upkeep sucks
robust vector
BP nodes do get changed a lot
wooden falcon
new engine versions can break them on occasion
and customers need a lot more help with blueprint projects
harsh coral
most of them are priced lower then art assets, even tho they take way more hours
wooden falcon
people don't value them as much, for some reason
probably the erroneous belief that "bah, I could put that together myself if I had enough time"
harsh coral
tbh most of them aren't of a good enough quality to warrant a proper price
but still
wooden falcon
true, but even the really good ones are underpriced
harsh coral
people add pro at the end so at least they must feel it's good
or the art is overpriced.. i dunno but there's a gap
wooden falcon
a lot of the art is underpriced too 😃
that's why when we see a pack for > $100, most of us freak out
even if it's really good
modern perch
part of the problem is that I have no idea if it's good until I've bought it
wooden falcon
true
modern perch
this makes me very wary of buying expensive BP products
the vast majority of BPs on the marketplace are not very good
some of them are appalling
delicate dove
there should at least be some bp creators where you know the bp's are good right?
wooden falcon
dammit Necro's Utility Material Pack 2, under-perform like that again and it's the toolshed for you!
wooden falcon
HowTo's stuff is good
modern perch
Generic Shooter is okay, but it's poorly compartmentalised, so it's tricky to strip out features you don't want
wooden falcon
DaperRaptor's stuff, as well
man, after this sale, I'm going to have to reconsider keeping my discounts <= 50%
would have almost been better if I had only done 10%...then at least they might have been on the last couple of pages, rather than right in the middle of 54 pages
harsh coral
compared to other stuff i've seen i could agree that generic shooter is ok... but again it's not something you'd use in a proper game
wooden falcon
great for starting a project though
harsh coral
true, but you can easily get AAA quality art on the various marketplaces
you cant really get AAA quality code.. except for some third party plugins like true sky etc
modern perch
I'm not sure I'd call Trusky AAA, hehe
it does some nice stuff, but fark is it performance heavy for what it is
delicate dove
well, i hear you all complain about the bp's, but ive seen soooooo many art-related content with supercrappy material & instance setups its insane
i bet even the worst blueprint is not as unreadable as some of the vfx/model related materials
harsh coral
sure there's a ton of crappy art.. but there's also art that's on par with the best you can find in the industry
modern perch
quite possible
but Epic's material examples aren't exactly stellar
I mean the landscape material in the landscape example - WTAF?
delicate dove
I kinda wanted to overhaul all the mat-functions in ue4, but they wouldnt accept it to their builds anyways
modern perch
hundreds of nodes, spaghettified to the extreme, and half of it doesn't even do anything :/
delicate dove
not to mention left over nodes not attached to anything
modern perch
yup
delicate dove
ive also heard artists go "well, the materials arent for learning purposes anyways" no, but that way you cant really iterate on anything either until you clean up the mess
modern perch
Don't call it an 'example' if it isn't intended for learning purposes?
delicate dove
that, but its weird to expect users to only use anything from the mp as-is
modern perch
also, don't put it in the learn tab, maybe...
delicate dove
speaking in general, not only epic's content
modern perch
yeah, this is one of the reasons why OneBit's products are good
it's literally the functionality it describes, wrapped into a small demo
pearl ocean
what is the definition of AAA quality code? 😄
modern perch
it's compartmentalised in such a way that you can copy/paste the relevant nodes into your own project and adapt it as you see fit
delicate dove
its also why I probably only release more modular packs from now on, unless its some sort of "quick iteration" pack.
though modular can be a dirty word nowadays hehe
modern perch
as an example, this is OneBit's Cellular Automata example BP:
https://snag.gy/oR0h3O.jpg
harsh coral
@pearl oceana by 'AAA quality code' i meant something that's fully fleshed out and designed properly, which you could drop in a 'AAA' quality game and it would hold up
modern perch
you can just delete the nodes on the left, and the rest is the part you want to work with
no need to dive through a load of unrelated UI widgets, various other BPs that it relies on to handle settings etc
removing hats from Generic Shooter however would involve touching something like half of the core classes D:
harsh coral
right.. which is why i consider Generic shooter okay at best for learning
try to make a game out of it and you'll run into a bunch of unecessary problems
that would be non-existent with a different design
one way to avoid that is to do like epic does with the engine
they develop games with it, and that in turn improves the engine a lot
wooden falcon
I'm just glad that apparently Luos has never bought one of my packs...hurt, but glad too 😃
ebon leaf
I can't speak on GS, but as someone with a template on the marketplace myself - I strive to put as many options and switches all in one place (the controller components) so that people can easily disable/enable as many of the features in my template as possible. That said... comparing a noise generation BP to a full ready-to-use template in terms of modularity might be a little unfair 😛
delicate dove
before I'd buy anything on the mp for a game I am working on, or if a client decides to buy anything I'd assess the package, is it worth as a base? can we iterate on it? will it actually save us the time we'd like to save or will we need to basically recreate it
harsh coral
for vfx that's enough if you have lot's of experience doing this stuff, and you're pretty much doing it for a living
delicate dove
by now I have almost all vfx packs, and almost all have at least a partial overhaul for more functionality and modularity
i.e. bloodpack where you cant change the color of the blood wut :p
its a great pack, but why not spend a few minutes to add a parameter for blood color
harsh coral
luckily i'm one of those that wouldnt want to change blood color, because i know how hard it is to get it just right
delicate dove
yea, but you couldnt use it on an alien with green blood :p
ebon leaf
Yeah I was about to say the same 😛
harsh coral
the saying i think is 'eat your own dog food'
(that you testdrive your products from a consumer point of view)
delicate dove
yup, though it helps if you do freelance work. the more you do it, the more you realize what someone might want
or shouldnt want :p
ebon leaf
I worked with a team of about 15 of my customers testing my template during development of it. That helped me immensely in catering to varied use 😃
delicate dove
and i'll be the first to admit, looking at my previous packages I should have worked cleaner and added easy to-tweak parameters. but well.. part of getting more experience
ebon leaf
The more you work in the marketplace and such, the better you get at all that stuff. For sure.
harsh coral
as with everything in life...
but you two for example go the extra mile and care about your products
with updates and support
with not a bad product to begin with
wooden falcon
everybody knows the money is in low poly ducks now
ebon leaf
I don't really see another way to be a creator on the marketplace tbh. Although the type of assets I create definitely lend to constant updates and such.
lol... I couldn't even make a low poly duck. Artistically challenged to the nth degree XD
harsh coral
for example someone didnt care about proper orientation for their gun pack
sure i can fix it easily, it just takes me an hour
the author is non-responsive or doesnt care or does not have any plans for update
so let's say 100 people bought the pack.. that's 100 hours spent on fixing the orientation
if he took feedback or tried to place the weapon on a rigged to epic skel char he'd catch the problem
delicate dove
makes me wish we could align the cylinder location module to camera. that would make my life sooooo much better. that way I wont have people tell me the effect isnt aligning outomatically and me not having to say "do it trough blueprint" :p
wooden falcon
so here are my sales for cyber monday: Bone Box: 4, Rock Box: 4, Mat Pack #1: 11, Mat Pack #2: 1 ...sigh
harsh coral
i could give a better example because proper orientation is a bit arbitrary
ebon leaf
@wooden falcon what discount rate did you apply?
wooden falcon
50% on all but rocks, which was 30%
which, since they were roughly ordered by discount, put me right in the middle of 54 pages
I wonder if I can change my requested rate for the next sale?
ebon leaf
I would have expected most things @ 50% off or better to do reasonably well tbh
wooden falcon
I'd love to see a breakdown of sales by page location 😃
ebon leaf
well I was only at 50% off as well, but I had a wonderful 24 hours. So while I'm sure it definitely matters, I dunno how much.
it really only cancelled out the rest of November being a pretty bad sales month though lol.
wooden falcon
were yours all in the middle?
ebon leaf
more or less I believe. One or two were in at about 30% through the pages
wooden falcon
well, your stuff is all head and shoulders above mine in quality anyways, so there were probably people just waiting for a sale to get yours
harsh coral
i made a few sales on cyber monday even though i wasnt in on any sale lol.. it ended my few months no sale streak (turbosquid not ue mp)
wooden falcon
and you have much better presentation (something I need to concentrate on)
real dust
Links to both seller pages?
ebon leaf
That's mine
that's Necrophob30's
@wooden falcon thanks for the kind words 😃
and yeah... presentation makes far too big a difference sadly
harsh coral
to be fair you can't really compare the two since they're different types of assets
real dust
Was about to say
ebon leaf
Definitely
wooden falcon
the raptor logo really jumps out
harsh coral
but apoisonedgift is a def becoming a makerting guru here
real dust
Here's one tip, Necro
wooden falcon
and good lord, 86 ratings?
real dust
No-one cares whether something's yours, and if they do they can see that from the name
ebon leaf
lol wtf... my seller page says the tempalte is featured but its not on the featured items 😛
real dust
So don't bother to put it on the icon, you're better off using that space for other things
ebon leaf
@wooden falcon ikr 😛 I'm fortunate with ratings... have a lot
wooden falcon
true, but those damn thumbnails are too small to put much of anything
real dust
You should also be using better testing scenes for your packs
(That's not just you, that's a recurring theme for sellers)
wooden falcon
yah
hard to make a proper scene though, as the user then thinks that everything that's in the scene should be part of the pack
real dust
You can do pretty well with just rocks and that sort of thing
See, I'd give it a shot if I owned your pack, except I don't
😛
But basically, composition, colors, lighting and focal points
Need to get those right
wooden falcon
yah, something I'm going to definitely look into
real dust
What's your favorite field to work on?
Mine's level design, so I really go nuts on this sort of thing 😛
real dust
Do you program or anything? Or just photogrammetry?
wooden falcon
haven't programmed in years
been meaning to learn Blueprints, but never get around to it
real dust
This is a nice comparison, actually
Presentation's key
Left looks bad because of awful lighting and that sort of thing
Right looks good because it does lighting and colors well
delicate dove
its also why the low poly pixel things look so good
wooden falcon
yah, Synty must be banking
harsh coral
lol i bought a 10$ low poly pack for the lightning setup in the sample scene
wooden falcon
his stuff has a lot of style, though
wooden falcon
some of the other low poly packs are lazy
I swear, I should do a low poly Warehouse...just filled with the default Blender cube.
wooden falcon
that idea is gold! gold I tells ya!
real dust
I'm going to make that now
ebon leaf
😂
real dust
I shit you not, I'm putting this on the marketplace for $1
wooden falcon
lol
harsh coral
there's a real $$ idea burried in there
there's a curious lack of things on ue mp that otherwise sell well on every other type of stock asset platform
ebon leaf
too many polys. Too much detail. 1/5 stars
real dust
I might actually go make a low-poly box pack
If only to see how pissy people get if it makes it on
ebon leaf
make sure one of them has a duck in it 😃
real dust
I actually just dun goofed on the topology of a bloody box
I swear to god, I'm the worst modeler on this damn planet
wooden falcon
I like that box
but his is what I was thinking: http://www.mcell.psc.edu/tutorials/_images/cube.png
I won't even change the color
market it all molyneux as : The Box
real dust
Box pack here we go
wooden falcon
I'm not gonna give the secret away...let's just say it's something very "touching"...
ok, it's Kevin Spacey
harsh coral
we should make little yellow duck the next gen dopefish
wooden falcon
now make 4 variations of that box Mr4Goosey, and you have a low poly stylized pack
harsh coral
i'm thinking more of making a duck simulator
where people and animals run around in terror from you and cause deaths and havoc to themselves
silver moat
But we can't release that on mp.
ebon leaf
"Duck Simulator Template"
silver moat
We should make a community duck pack and release it for free for the indie ducking games.
harsh coral
well i was thinking a steam game
harsh coral
for mp i have other fun ideas
silver moat
All the fun is when you see the duck featured on the front.
Jokes aside.
I'm up for creating it's environment.
harsh coral
a collaboration project might not be a bad idea
env, characters, weapons, animations from different authors but work with each other and fit the same theme
robust vector
it would be nice if you could set up a joint account with Epic, but as is you have to set up the revenue split on your end
harsh coral
i was thinking more of an indirect collab.. everyone publishes their work themselves.. the benefit is cross promotion
someone buying a character can see an environment, props, weapons etc that already fits
i see some creators promoting their products via their social media reach
eventually you exhaust your options, and are promoting to people that already have most of your stuff (hopefully)
partnering up on a project like that you could cross promote and reach another crowd
robust vector
I need to make the grip and stock for when using stand alone and then I'll be ready to submit
ebon leaf
I posted on the forums about open source games and ue4 licensing. Specificlly can you use marketplace content in an open source game. I don't think you can, but I want to make sure. Is this the case?
more info https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/marketplace/1393569-open-source-games-and-marketplace-content-can-we-use-marketplace-content-in-an-open-source-game
harsh coral
why couldn't you use them ? it's not really open if you cant
you cant 'open' the mp assets themselves..
nevermind i've read your post in more detail
robust vector
I wonder how backed up submission reviews got during Cyber Monday prep
Before Cyber Monday they were reviewing submissions in less than two days.
supple moon
triangulated models
looks like world of warships
taking bets if our man is from eastern europe
lone mountain
@ebon leaf I mean, basically from what I read in that response, you just can't use MP asssets
As for a "licensee" They would need to download the engine
so they would need to log into epic games launcher
so they would need a login
If all the assets are custom made
No issues
zealous ibex
Isn't it lovely when epic doesn't tell you about refunds AGAIN?!
(I see the -1s in my sales report, but haven't ever received a reason on why, because if it's a technical flaw I'd really like to know what it is so I can fix it)
leaden root
Could be anti fraud?
zealous ibex
My, could be.....but still, if it was fraud I'd like to know about that as a seller.....just my 2 cents
real dust
Was about to say
zealous ibex
(Seeing as fraud probably means I should keep a look out on pirating sites for my assets to be pirated)
real dust
Even if it was, they could just drop you a mail
zealous ibex
I only ever received one email concerning a refund, and that was in case of an accidental purchase where the buyer first contacted me and epic asked me to confirm
ebon leaf
They are supposed to ALWAYS contact you regarding it, including fraud.
zealous ibex
Yep, which is why I just made that comment, that's the idea I got too, but I've probably had a good 5+ refunds without notice now I think, oh well 🤔
The refunds only amount to $3 in total, but still...
real dust
Principle matter 😛
zealous ibex
Yep, that's what I was trying to say ^^
delicate dove
"hello luos,
I loaded the ToolKit into my current scene I am trying to build for school.
I have very basic knowledge of navigating Unreal.
I have no idea what half of these folders mean when looking at them.
Any help you can provide would be great."
kinda out of the scope of support...
"hi, i purchased your package, now I'd like you to teach me ue4"
sleek crypt
"Hi Luos, I bought your effects, can you make my game now?"
delicate dove
sure!
robust vector
If you don't know how folders work, do you really have a basic knowledge of UE4?
quaint cedar
Gotta take my chance!
"Hi Luos, I bought your effects, can you pay my rent now?"
sleek crypt
Well for the rent I think you'll have to at least buy his modular caves!
quaint cedar
@delicate dove Living in Belgium. Your turn.
sleek crypt
Do I qualify for the assets+rent bundle?
quaint cedar
3 Months more at least. :D
delicate dove
hehe
ebon leaf
@lone mountain Thanks man. Very helpful. ❤
worthy pawn
@robust vector just needs a bit of 'judder' on the hands perhaps?? to amplify the physicality of chainsaw being on.
@delicate dove have you tried the pack? assuming that's your comment 😉 https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/smart-master-blueprints-package
delicate dove
no need to try that pack, a material like that is made in a few minutes, and there is no such thing as a material blueprint :p we call them materials
worthy pawn
looking at the exposed param's i'd have to agree
just wondering if there was more to it then appears
delicate dove
nope, just a generic basic material with parameters
worthy pawn
if that's a users first purchase on the marketplace then god help the rest of you guys 🤔
delicate dove
hehe
modern perch
I couldn't work out what that 'smart' material is supposed to actually do
delicate dove
smart as in people durpy enough to buy it
im so tempted to release the same thing for free XD
wooden falcon
was browsing through the props category, and what do I find next to one of my packs? https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/ancient-statues
I would like to file for sexual harassment! It appears to be pointing right at my pack
modern perch
lol
wooden falcon
one of the comments on that pack: "Does the pack include versions where their dongs are still attached? Really important for my project"
modern perch
hahaha
delicate dove
i still find it weird they dont allow for more adult related content
modern perch
American company
delicate dove
looks at all the dongs he modelled during his "freudian slip" years
modern perch
"OMG nipples!"
sleek crypt
BAN!
wooden falcon
I've been thinking about doing a Quake style modular pack, but I think they probably wouldn't even allow pentagrams
delicate dove
OMG SKIN!
while at home 99% of the company looks at porn
modern perch
pentagrams would be fine
wooden falcon
and by "thinking" I mean "I completely lack the ability"
delicate dove
zwatzikwhoever you write em are not
wooden falcon
dammit, I need to check the gamma on my home monitor...this thumbnail turned out way too dark: https://cdn1.epicgames.com/ue/product/Thumbnail/NecrosUtilityMaterialPack2_thumb-284x284-9299715d50d57c002f6e3d720b46e1ae.png
I wish I had a lot more time to work on stuff...I don't know how many times I've thought "Hey, this would be a great idea for a pack" and then never did it...then I check the New Releases and there it is
granted, I never think up anything terribly original
but for a long time, there were plenty of things missing from the UE4 MP.
sleek crypt
I don't know about this specific image, but recently image importers (on gmail and here at least) are delirious. A concept artist sent me a character with a purple outfit and light pink skin, and in Discord it showed as electric blue outfit with grey skin.
wooden falcon
it looks lighter here in discord than in the MP
delicate dove
afaik mp has some sort of overlay
wooden falcon
changed my rock pack thumbnail to actually show a rock: https://cdn1.epicgames.com/ue/product/Thumbnail/NecrosRockBox_thumb-284x284-b8035dd35069b220fb7ee54f0c466e3a.png
delicate dove
lol
wooden falcon
I promise, there is a rock in there :/
sleek crypt
Am I supposed to see the shape of an animal in that rock?
wooden falcon
hmm, actually, now I do see an animal
I'd totally use that name Ambershee
but I think there's a character limit
modern perch
should be under the limit
wooden falcon
it's the dragon's head from The Never Ending Story: http://static.adweek.com/adweek.com-prod/wp-content/uploads/files/news_article/spotify-falkor-final-hed-2016.jpg
I dont' know why there's an old guy riding him in that pick
modern perch
I had a quick flick through the animation packs on the marketplace just now
there's actually surprisingly little on there
delicate dove
yup, even told an animation buddy he should go for it, but he toldme he cant be arsed
he seems to really hate the ue4 mannequin setup for some reason
modern perch
I had a quick look to see if there were climbing anims etc - nothing!
delicate dove
there should be one afaik
sleek crypt
Yes there should 1 or 2 as blueprints
harsh coral
hm i was sure there were climb animations in movement animset pro
just checked, there's just a 1m and a 2m ledge climb animation
whole pack has way less animations then i expected.. with mirrored versions and animations broken down to start, loop, stop etc., it comes to the advertised 180 'animations'
modern perch
seems to be standard on the marketplace :/
"200 materials!" - 8 materials each using the same master and with 25 instances that are a slightly different colour
wooden falcon
sssssh...I did that on my first pack
though I do show images of all of them on my site, so you can judge which are the same
I dunno, I just wanted different colors already made 😃
robust vector
@worthy pawn Thanks for pointing that out
wooden falcon
robust vector
Really wish I could call BP functions from inside materials
Or that materials were more like BP in general
It would really make keeping materials nice and tidy for customers a lot easier
wooden falcon
ok, I don't feel so bad about my pack's presentation now: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/melee-tracing-plugin
west nimbus
Hey guys, Til from STF-3d here
I have a question that I couldn't find an answer to since it's very specific, I guess.
So, we're attempting to launch a product on UE4 Marketplace
However, the link to our zipped up project file is not being recognized (I'm not posting it in here, of course)
We're all able to download it independently
Just Marketplace apparently doesn't seem to like the link
(An https:// one)
Is there any way you could help put us back on track?
robust vector
What service are you hosting the link with?
west nimbus
Hey 😃
I'm using an FTP that we're using
an https:// one
I can send you the link if that's OK with you.
Download works alright with all of our team members
It just fails on the marketplace site
7 am here right now, so I'll have to call it a night, but I'd welcome any posts / messages while I'm offline!
robust vector
I would try uploading it on something like Dropbox or Google Drive.
west nimbus
OK, we have been hesitant because of the filesize, but we'll try that next. Thanks 😃
zealous ibex
Google drive allows 15GB, and if your project is larger than the t that it may play a role in whether or not it's accepted
Just my 2 cents though
delicate dove
@west nimbus any reason the pack is so big?
west nimbus
Hey guys, no, it's not that big really - 1.5gb in total. We were just hoping to be able to throw it onto our ftp server so we'd have a permanent solution for all packs to come, but we'll settle for gdrive or Dropbox and see if that does the trick. Thanks for your input! :)
wooden falcon
cleaned up my rock pack thumbnail a bit: https://cdn1.epicgames.com/ue/product/Thumbnail/NecrosRockBox_thumb-284x284-2777605abd6a28a0c4a8d2a6051968b1.png
photoshop smart remove noise filter does amazing things to a 284x284 imgae
image*
also lightened up this one a bit: https://cdn1.epicgames.com/ue/product/Thumbnail/NecrosUtilityMaterialPack2_thumb-284x284-4085861474b4b42fcfc862a13dcd8634.png think it looks more presentable now
now I just need to work on the pack screenshots themselves
harsh coral
i dont like that blur too much
looks like some kind of dof effect but it makes no sense physically
harsh coral
i mean the skull material
harsh coral
do you have the original image for comparison ?
wooden falcon
lemme look
harsh coral
feels overprocessed with the crushed blacks and blown out highlights
wooden falcon
well, here's the one I cropped from to make the thumbnail: http://totaliterritory.com/images/skullwall05.jpg
so I also adjusted intensity
maybe I just need to hire someone to do my presentation :/
vague wren
what is this asset for ?
wooden falcon
it looks like Epic puts some sort of vignette effect on the thumbnails: https://cdn1.epicgames.com/ue/item/store_NecrosUtilityMatPack_thumbnail-284x284-26b9103eb4e2c199ee240f3f753f7ad4.png
wooden falcon
thanks
vague wren
Vertex Painting ?
wooden falcon
yah, a lot
wooden falcon
my first pack didn't really use vertex painting, so I wanted to try it out in the second one
oh yah, 30%
vague wren
ok
thnx a lot
cause i haev got one pack of mine submitted
and i am just waiting for the reply
wooden falcon
they can take awhile
if they take longer than a week or two, you should do a follow up email to marketplace-support@unrealengine.com
harsh coral
wooden falcon
I think they had a slow down due to the Cyber Monday
hmm...I like that
did you tilt it?
harsh coral
yes
wooden falcon
any color adjustments?
harsh coral
some yeah.. could be made into a LUT so you can apply it in engine and it's not cheating 😃
wooden falcon
hehe, I don't consider thumbnail photoshopping cheating...its more like the window dressing to get the customer into the store 😉
I don't alter the screenshots in the pack page
though I do need to make improved ones
harsh coral
i kind of imagine a wide angle, low to the ground shot of a crypt archway filled with this material
or just a wall in a moody setting
with some light shafts coming from the outside of dungeon
(if you need ideas :P)
wooden falcon
that's pretty cool
supple moon
wallpaper of some demented crib room imo
wooden falcon
hah
this is my desktop background: http://totaliterritory.com/images/skullwall04.jpg
vague wren
i recieved a email from them 7 to 8 days ago telling me theat i will recieve their answer within 10 to 15 business days 😃
formal widget
hey yall. legit just looking for ideas/comments from folks who have been around longer than me. LMK if anything comes to mind. thx 🍩 ✊🏼 https://www.reddit.com/r/unrealengine/comments/7gx7aa/yo_im_finally_able_to_designmodel_objects_in_my/
robust vector
Great
Every time I open this project the physics asset loses its reffrence to its mesh
robust vector
Me no like do physics assets over
pseudo sundial
So did the Cyber Monday sale actually last for 2 days? My sales reports show both the 27th and the 28th as sale price purchases. I'm not upset, just curious (the more sales, the better obviously).
robust vector
Not really sure. I also received CB sales on both reports. There were people on the forums complaining about the sale ending before they finished checking out.
stark zinc
That could also be due to time zone differences? I saw the same thing on my report.
robust vector
The sale was set in est.
I am also in est, so that shouldn't have had an impact for me.
vague wren
are these fails due to my dynamic lighting?
wooden falcon
that's odd
looks like they couldn't get some of your maps to load...are they pretty large?
vague wren
nope
but i have changed the lighting setting to build method instead of dynamic
and then i did a little something with layer blend info
and re submitted it
hopw it goes well this time 😃
robust vector
Unwrapping mechanical objects is so painful
Hopefully these weapon packs are worth it
zealous ibex
Hope it'll work now @Utsav Singh#6674 😃
Has anyone here noticed a spike in (support) requests/queries after the CM sale? I was thinking I'd get a ton, but haven't seen a spike myself 🤔
delicate dove
gotten a few since, one of em asking me to send the base files (fbx, png, etc) because hwants to use em in a version not supported by me. guess he/she doesnt know you can xport em :p
sudden mason
That sounds like when I get messages on linkedIn with questions about my courses since they don't have access to the discussion forums... Bloody pirates
delicate dove
lol ikr
robust vector
They've gotten really slow with product reviews again
zealous ibex
Oh well, what are you calling slow?
One of mine's at over 4mo now 🤔 But I'm not complaining as this is literally the worst season to release now everyone's spent their money on the CM sale
robust vector
The last product I had reviewed was only one day from submission to release
Now I have 3 products submitted before the CM sale still waiting
robust vector
I just don't think it should take longer to review the content than to create it, but I guess the MP has almost always been that way
vague wren
@zealous ibex thanks
delicate dove
crisp rapids
Obviously it's time to make your assets in 4.1 so they're forward-portable.
robust vector
I bet that mod hes working on is really fabulous given his knowledge level
delicate dove
im awaiting an email with fuuuu y u no send
split iron
I'm just curious, is there a reason why Epic don't prohibit people from rating marketplace assets who recieved it for free?
real dust
Because it's a pretty debatable thing to do anyway?
harsh bluff
robust vector
I wonder if there are people who give out their product free to people in exchange for high ratings and positive comments
I've bought assets that turned out to be complete crap but had high ratings and positive comments
split iron
I already know there are people who share their assets and give each other high ratings, so..
The answer would be yes
ebon leaf
Yeah. People who get it for free, as well as the creator themself, really should not be able to rate lol
ebon leaf
There's some assets that, the second they are out, have 5 ratings lol
Even if they legitimately got 5 sales, seems unlikely the customer has used the product enough to give a considered opinion and rating lol
Ratings should be attached to a review, so people can judge the validity of it based on the content. But... We have more or less a zero percent rating attachment rate as it is so Idk
supple moon
@solemn prism @split iron who does that?
split iron
Since I can't provide solid evidence I won't name anyone
I think headclot knows a lot of the same I know
ebon leaf
Theres a number of people who very clearly do it - like I sai d- you only need to pay attention to products on the day they release. If they get 10 5 star ratings within 1-2 hours, you can bet that there's probably a chunk of those that aren't entirely above board, especially if they seller doesn't have an immensely successful product that might have garnered them a following (though arguably those ratings are debatedly not legitimate either lol)
supple moon
aw
lone mountain
Hmm
If you give me your asset to review
I shall do so
That's pretty much the point of those types of deals.
Although it would be handy if there was a little tag for those. Like how Amazon does it.
Or steam
Product received for free
aka, take this review with a grain of salt if 5/5, but if 1/5, probably true
solemn prism
^
ebon leaf
Give asset to review is fine. Giving asset to boost rating, not so much haha
delicate dove
i thought that was something kids did in littlebigplanet
wooden falcon
unity will tag a review from someone gifted an asset
my sole review on unity is from someone who emails me with a story about being too poor to afford unity packs. Says he'll write a nice review if I gift it to him, so I give him a free copy and tell him to review it honestly
his review was too rosy, and therefore useless 😃
harsh coral
<- will write useful reviews for food free asset packs
zealous ibex
I give my assets to a few oh er debs who help me a ton for free, but I can't control it if they rate it 5 🌟's, I don't rate my own assets though, and implementing something like blocking free users and the creators would be great
wooden falcon
synty needs to do a game at this point: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/polygon-dungeon-pack
pack from former MP dude, Adam Davis: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/zombiebear-s-platforming-blueprints
zealous ibex
Oooh, he released an asset 😮
Sorry to say this.....but his screenshots are.....sub-par, with some text being almost unreadable 🤔
I'd be interested to see how well it goes seeing as there is a free platforming template.....and people seem to really like it 🤔
(I released a platformer that I pulled within like 24 hours or so as it was horribly received - I thought it offered some unique features people may want, but oh boi was I wrong. Hope this template fares better ^^ :P)
zealous ibex
The asset does look pretty solid though, with all of the parts that you would need for a basic platformer, including some awesome things like a key system or something like that 😃 Provided assets also look good enough for a quick prototype I'd suppose - I've seen worse 😛
I wouldn't call it bad programming art, it's just the presentation - the text on one of the screenshots is partially black, and half of it is in a shadow, meaning it's quite hard to read
Annotating the screenshots for example would make a huge difference - but I agree, there are a few art-like things that could use a small improvement, but I suppose it's a toolkit, which shouldn't just be copied and thrown on steam 😛
wooden falcon
the first pic says you can interact with some objects, but the interaction isn't really clear as to what you're doing...I'm assuming he's pushing the box?
zealous ibex
He doesn't appear to have a video 🤔
But not sure - wouldn't he be to the left of the box if he'd be pushing it? 🤔
Also, looking at Synthy's work, it's so awesome 😮
wooden falcon
he has awesome presentation
split iron
I find I save time by not using toolkits for the most part, 9 times out of 10 they're suboptimal and I end up rewriting everything anyway
lone mountain
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
harsh coral
@HowToCompute what kind of unique features .. and you must have really triggered people if you decided to pull the plug in 24hrs of releasing ... now i'm intrigued and want to know more
robust vector
I had intended to save the female version for an update, but meh
Hopefully I don't get people asking why there isn't more skin showing on the female version.
delicate dove
hmm, i tihnk it should be required to make a forum post about released marketplace packs. so annoying if a seller doesnt have one
wooden falcon
not a bad idea
harsh coral
in that case they should change the comments to reviews, and make an auto generated forum post for discussion & support ..
wooden falcon
harsh coral
SUPERGRID lighting gets build only when you move!
split iron
@robust vector May want to check the comment on your MP asset
sullen lion
@robust vector hey why isn't there more skin showing on the male version? 
robust vector
Wonder why that guy asked about the licensing in two different places?
He must've been really concerned that I'm a pirate. Yargh!
ebon leaf
Cap'n Blackfang is a pretty badass pirate name to be fair
robust vector
I'm going to keep that in mind next time I redraw my logo
ebon leaf
I'll expect the cheque for my creative consultancy work in the mail. 😛
robust vector
Yeah, you keep on expecting a pirate to make good on that check
ebon leaf
damn... foiled again 😂
zealous ibex
@harsh coral stuff like spline based moving platforms and a few other things, I'll link the video I created later as I abandoned the project anyway ^^
robust vector
I wish people would pay that much for my products, and also leave all those ratings
ebon leaf
Stop stealing shit off cgtrader then kappa 😛
robust vector
If I could sculpt I wouldn't license
ebon leaf
I was only joking man 😛 There's absolutely zero wrong with what you're doing as long as both parties are happy to do it and covered legally 😃
ebon leaf
lol
robust vector
I need to get faster though. Got a huge backlog of good sculpts to work through
ebon leaf
Do you take contract work? I know a lot of my customers really struggle with rigging and stuff like that. I can point them your way in the future if you like. I'm certainly no good inside a 3d modelling app 😛
robust vector
Sure
ebon leaf
Noted 😃
robust vector
Been advertising as "Programming, retopology, and rigging" for a bit but still only get programming requests
split iron
I've worked as an artist long enough to know to take programming jobs instead anyway 😄
leaden root
Its because programming is hard and anyone can do art work
delicate dove
lol
leaden root
Haha
leaden root
@delicate dove That facebook group isnt just tutorials its marketplace assets too
zealous ibex
If only 😛 Art is so hard 🤔
delicate dove
O_o allright
robust vector
You just have to break the thing you want to make down into a series of mathematical formulas. The more 'art' you take out of the art, the easier it gets.
wooden falcon
hehe
delicate dove
all 12 guide-videos done
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuqNhfvpWXRggGySh5Sf0fd-MrXG4W2Qs
might submit the pack tomorrow.
472 effects should be enough right? XD
wooden falcon
meh...473 would be better
solemn laurel
Good morning everyone! Took me a while to remember where to find the slack XD.
modern perch
...on Discord?
solemn laurel
yeah that one, it's early I've only had one coffee lol
and only half paying attention since I'm at work
wooden falcon
hey adam!
solemn laurel
How's it going?
solemn laurel
Thanks! I was exceedingly nervous about it since I've not released anything before, but I'm glad it's out and about now. I can work on other things on stream now XD
wooden falcon
seems really cool...you might want to touch up the screenshots a bit and add a video link, though
first day of sales go ok?
ebon leaf
Also, I see noodles that cross in the screenshots 😛 kappa
solemn laurel
I got one sale, good enough for me :D. And yeah, sadly photo editing seems to be a major weakness for me, I need to find time to work on it and get some better quality pics. The video I plan on doing soon once I have more time available, probably just use OBS to record something and show it off. It's not meant to be anything awe inspiring or super amazing, just hopefully helpful to some people 😃
wooden falcon
well, welcome to the seller ranks! now you too will know our pain! 😃
solemn laurel
:P, I appreciate it!
wooden falcon
we're all just hoping some of Luo's sales trickle down to us
sees Luos 472 effects pack and throws away the one he's been working on
solemn laurel
You both have some pretty awesome stuff out there. Hell, I'm half-intimidated to say I'm a seller with some of the really cool content that's already available :D. I'm just hoping I can bring some stuff to the table in the future ^_^
zealous ibex
Congrats on your release @solemn laurel :)
solemn laurel
Thanks!
wooden falcon
this looks absolutely beautiful, but I wonder how many he's selling at that price: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/victorian-house
has a lot of assets
zealous ibex
I love the looks of that thing too <3
wooden falcon
lol... LOD: 8....8 meshes out of all of those have LOD
guess it doesn't matter in a house, where stuff will be up close in a room, then occluded when you leave anyways
oh no wonder...same dude who did: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/classic-room-pack
that guys' a pro
wooden falcon
zealous ibex
😮 That seems so useful for the people into that stuff, I wonder if the technical simulation/animation world is as big as the ArchVis world 🤔
harsh coral
oh, that just got released lol.. was searching for something like that a week ago
nova scaffold
Isn’t there “as is” policy for purchased product? I honestly don’t know how I would deal with such buyer.
wooden falcon
ugh, I miss the days of Unreal 1 and using subtractive BSP...made for such each level prototyping
wooden falcon
but doesn't that just subtract from an already placed additive bsp?
so you'd have to make a huge additive and carve from it to simulate unreal 1?
ashen sun
What do you want to subtract from instead? a mesh?
crisp rapids
In Unreal Engine 1 you could create a space entirely out of subtractive brushes. All outside space would be considered filled. Not possible now.
ebon leaf
well arguably you could just make a giant brush that was the equivalent of 65536 UE1 UUs and go at it? I dunno how you'd go with performance though given that BSP isn't the primary method of anything anymore
crisp rapids
Geometry brushes are compiled into static meshes now. The resulting performance problem is that the result is converted into hundreds, sometimes thousands of meshes, rather than an easily processed BSP tree. Plus side is... there is no plus side.
ebon leaf
plus side is the static mesh pipeline in general lol
crisp rapids
That's not really a plus side when the geometry brushes aren't a part of that pipeline.
ebon leaf
Yeah. Maybe geo 2.0 one day lulz
vague wren
i wanted to ask something
i have submitted an asset of mine and have been in contact woth Epic daily
there ue4 editor freezes when they try to open any file from my asset pack
i am using Google Drive for the file sharing
is Drive messing up my project ?
if yes
is there a better alternative ?
ebon leaf
unlikely google drive is causing issues. But you could try dropbox, mega, or your own hosting
robust vector
Its VERY unlikely that the issue is with the file hosting
robust vector
How are you compressing the project?
robust vector
The project loads fine for you once you download it back from Drive?
vague wren
never tried that
🤔
it had 8k textures
i have replaced them to 1k now
on Epic recomendation
and might have to resubmit again with 1k textures
le me download and check
doing it
be back in an hour or so
robust vector
harsh coral
'bout time for a launcher
delicate dove
someone should make a plugin that can filter unused content in the content browser. i think many people would lovve that
modern perch
it's almost impossible to quantify what 'unused content' is though
delicate dove
anything that isnt referenced anywhere?
solemn laurel
was just about to say that lol. Use the reference tool, if not referenced anywhere it is unused. Would be a really nifty tool
delicate dove
its often something you'd do at the end of the project to get rid of bloat, and by then its stupendous tedious
also, 80.lv just promoted my guide for a vfx pack as a 12-series tutorial and now im getting downvotes and posts saying the "tutorials" are bad
O_o
solemn laurel
That sucks, sorry to hear it 😦
modern perch
you might be using content that isn't directly referenced though
I tend to have a fair amount of content that's loaded dynamically
solemn laurel
It shows up in the reference viewer even if it's referenced solely in script IIRC. I could be wrong (happens a lot), but I think it's designed to take any reference to the actor/material/thing by any other thing, regardless of whether it is a dynamic or static call to it.
modern perch
if something is dynamically loaded it isn't referenced
(until it has been loaded)
so no, those things do not show up in the reference viewer
delicate dove
that would then be something for the user
still getting a list of "potential" unused content is better than nothing
modern perch
true enough
fleet garnet
It doesn't sound too difficult to do. I first need to learn slate for the UI (which is awful)
wooden falcon
that launcher looks cool BlackFang, but the pics are really dark
zealous ibex
😮 Almost had a year of selling on the UE4 marketplace!
solemn laurel
nice!
wooden falcon
good year?
wooden falcon
ebon leaf
Yarr. Thar be gold to be sure.
wooden falcon
this is for you, One-Eyed Willy
you know, it's hard to be nostalgic for movies like The Goonies when you realize half the cast of kids was probably molested in Hollywood
ok, sorry...that got dark
sorta like the vortaguns from hl?
damn, I wish I had talent and a maya license
zealous ibex
@wooden falcon
Necrophob30 - Today at 3:31 PM
good year?
``` Nothing like the big sellers ofcourse, but it's been a good year that far exceeded my expectations 😃(Well....it's almost been a year ^^)
zealous ibex
For sure 😉
It's just that this is a horrible season to release - but I expect to start releasing pretty frequenty starting around February 2018 😃
(oh - and a lot of documentation and trailers still need to be create, oh the joys of creating MP assets)
I have noticed that creating good documentation (with troubleshooting steps) helps decrease the time you need to spend answering support tickers - so I'd deffo reccomend spending a good chunk of time on your docs before releasing to (new) sellers ^^
steel locust
Hi guys,
We just published Quest Extension update 1.2.
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/quest-extension
It would be awesome if some of you give it a try and let us know your opinion!
wooden falcon
oh nice...two sales of my Bone Box at regular price yesterday
that's almost more sales than I got on the Cyber Monday
zealous ibex
Nice, and bummer it went so bad during the sale :(
wooden falcon
meh, I'll get over it 😃
zealous ibex
I'm quite suppressed at how small the regular sales impact is here too btw
wooden falcon
MP is just supplementary income for me
zealous ibex
Nice, pretty much the same here. I'd hate to rely on it to live off of
harsh coral
hard to imagine you could actualy make a living from epics marketplace
in the long run
you can if you spread out to other marketplaces
it's easier if you do art obviously
zealous ibex
Yep - you're pretty much stuck to the UE4 one if you do BP/C++
harsh coral
well you can make a .dll and just do implementations for ue/unity if it's not a engine specific thing you're making
zealous ibex
True, but then that's generally a service integration as there isn't a lot one of the engines doesn't have built in + isn't already provided (for free) by the manufacturer
And that still requires quite a lot of work, as on one of my recent project, I think the slate alone is a few hundrerd lines.....and it isn't even finished yet! (+ it's very, very ugly)
harsh coral
yeah, only viable for some things and even more work
with art you can afford to cater for more niche audiences, if you are present in enough marketplaces to max out total sales
i have some plugin ideas based off my personal needs but dont see myself ever going through the trouble of selling them
cause it's a specific thing few people would need
delicate dove
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/crystal-gems < not worth 1 star.
those are some good looking gems, and well set up.
not sure what the comment means.
harsh coral
.. code sells for a fraction of what art does, and usually takes longer to develop, test, etc.. and then you have to maintain it and support can be a bitch
delicate dove
that really depends on both the artist and coder though.
agreed on the support
harsh coral
given they are of qual skill.. an artist can make a next gen char in a week and sell it for 100$ on all the marketplaces
a smaller plugin would not be done front to end, including testing etc in a week
you'd sell it for 20$ on a single mp
delicate dove
arent coders able to also set something so people need to buy it per-seat though?
harsh coral
you can sell accessories for your char, or make a female version ...
there's more marketing opportunities also for art
split a pack in two
chair collection 1 , chair collection 2
to maximize your income
delicate dove
i wish i could easily move my vfx to unity, but would need to build em from the ground up
harsh coral
vfx is more specific form of art..
delicate dove
so are plugins :p
but I get your point
thing is, i personally expect to pay more for a good plugin, than for a generic piece of art that probably wont make it in the final build anyway
if something can speed up my workflow, its worth the money
zealous ibex
@delicate dove Not anymore I believe - I had someone enquire about the fact that other people on their team would have to buy the plugin because he commited to vcs to it, told him the solution with a warning to check the EULA, but from what I can see it's not per-seat
(Not a lawyer though)
delicate dove
hmm, odd. i remember Jon boasting about it. and I agreed that it made sense that there is code that should be purchased per seat
zealous ibex
d. Distribution of Paid Plug-ins - You may Distribute Paid Plug-ins to each of your Paid Plug-in Users so that they may use those Paid Plug-ins on your behalf under the License.
They cannot use it for other projects, but they can for the same project using your license...again, I AM NOT A LAWYER!
But that disputes 1c from what I can see,
You also may Distribute Content (other than Paid Plug-ins) to an Engine Licensee who is your employee or your contractor who does not have rights under their license to the same Content
But then there's
For Paid Plug-ins, in addition to use by a single User, each Paid Plug-in User with respect to whom you have paid the associated fee may store the Paid Plug-in on any of the Paid Plug-in User’s computers and may use the Paid Plug-in on your behalf under the License, but the Paid Plug-in cannot be otherwise shared with others except through a permitted Distribution as described above. You are responsible for each Paid Plug-in User’s compliance with this Agreement.
``` implying that the project owner would need to buy a "seat"? All I can say is I'm glad I'm not a lawyer ^^You may Distribute Paid Plug-ins to each of your Paid Plug-in Users
what would 'paid plug-in users' mean otherwise
kind of ambigous
zealous ibex
Hm, I guess that makes sense......I generally try and stay out of this stuff though 😛
And don't you still create a lot of meshes/images(textures) outside of ue4 and then use them to create the VFX @delicate dove? It'd still be a lot of work (probably more than it's worth), but atleast you'd be able to keep something 😉
Reading the marketplace seller agreement was more than enough work for me 😛
delicate dove
yea, id keep the meshes & materials, but I fooking hate unity's material & particle editor
god awful
zealous ibex
True, true
harsh coral
hm no microtransaction system on the mp
zealous ibex
Ah man, we can't create a pay2createAnAwesomeGame asset?! What a bummer!
delicate dove
"Hi everyone. We're planning on making an update on Friday, December 8, that will increase the image size limit from 1MB to 3MB for each image."
robust vector
Wait what?
delicate dove
for marketplace
delicate dove
hmm perhaps they recently removed the cap and just gave us an overall max for total images
ah yea, 20mb max
robust vector
Yeah, so I can have good quality images, but not very many
delicate dove
wonder what it means if each image is now 3mb. lose the 20mb cap then?
but image amount limit?
robust vector
No idea. I would rather it stay the way it is than go back to having a per image cap that low.
delicate dove
i find it more than enough personally
waxen jay
or they could implement external links for uploading images? f.e imgur
20mb limit seems like a joke, even on their own servers
leaden root
@zealous ibex How many copies of subsystemconfig did you sell when it was $0.50
harsh coral
@robust vector you could just use .jpg at max quality and have many pictures, hardly a difference to the average eye
harsh coral
bad choice of lighting makes it worse then jpeg compression
robust vector
Yeah, but all my images have bad lighting, so I don't want to stack compression on top of that
gaunt flicker
I make my .pngs the maximum file size because Epic should be better
harsh coral
it's good on the stock but the barrel is all dark, specialy the sawed off version
