that duck probably rakes in more money than all of us in here combined ๐
#fab
silver moat
If that's the case I'd like to create a "Happy cucumber" pack.
I might get drowned in sales too.
leaden root
Are you aloud to distribute SDKs for your game with uncooked marketplace content?
zealous ibex
I guess that depends on the SDK's license
It'd (probably) fall under third party content, which requires the software to have a license which allows you to redistribute it (or have permission from the author) & to declare it (at least for code plugins)
For example, the PhotonEngine SDK can't be distributed (atleast it couldn't be when I last checked the license) ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
leaden root
Well I mean I'm looking through the conan sdk and there is so many raw marketplace packs
I could literally copy paste them
ashen sun
man how does some of these blueprints get through to the market place ๐ฆ
or materials
lone mountain
@delicate dove what are your best three marketplace items?
hmm nvm
you only have four up there and I already own one ๐
delicate dove
in order of them being published hehe @lone mountain
zealous ibex
Ascending or Descending? ๐
swift musk
Am I missing something or is the Blueman Vehicle sample project supposed to require the plugin to run? And if that's the case why is it in the description and not bundled with the actual plugin?
zealous ibex
That should be correct
It requires the plugin to run as it's an example of the plugin
And it isn't bundled with the example project as otherwise he'd be giving away free copies, which wouldn't make any sense right?
It isn't my asset, you'll have to ask @fleet garnet for an "official" response (as he's the creator), but I think those are the reasons ๐
swift musk
I meant bundling the sample with the plugin so you get it when you buy it, not the other way around haha
zealous ibex
Also, the plugin installs as an engine plugin & not a project plugin
oak thistle
Epic don't allow it is why.
swift musk
I assumed it would be a cooked sample "game"
zealous ibex
Ah ๐ You can't really, there is a hacky way to somehow package it in, I think, but example projects need to be distributed seperately
oak thistle
The only way you can include sample project with a MP plugin is by linking externally.
swift musk
Aah, that explains that
zealous ibex
Anyone here know if we're allowed to create assets with a third party executable (that is locked under a license key)? Pretty much allow a user to fill out their invoice ID/etc & send epic an email to see if they indeed bought the pack, and are entitled to a copy of said software? I know a few items on other stores do this (for example Exit Games on the Unity Asset Store with PhotonEngine Pro), but haven't personally seen a ue4 asset do this.
solemn prism
@zealous ibex - I am unsure if that is allowed
zealous ibex
Hm, I'm not sure too. Anyone in here tried or should I ask this in the creators hub (where epic may actually see the question and possibly even reply to it)
Because I have seen plugins require (paid with free tier) third party services, the Toggle Plugin would be a good example of this
fleet garnet
@swift musk there is a packaged version on the forum which you can try without owning the plugin. I distributed my example project like this because I can update it independently of the plugin and I'm not sure if we can bundle our plugins together with a project.
leaden root
Its worth it
swift musk
Yeah, not having to deal with the default vehicle nonsense is worth a fair bit
leaden root
Oh hell yea
With blue man vehicle you can do quite a bit of stuff at runtime too, Im setting it up so you can blow off wheels
zealous ibex
Cool ๐ฎ
swift musk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqLafZq-qxA This pretty much sums up my experience with default vehicles
fleet garnet
I should of probably made that packaged version more obvious ๐คฆ
zealous ibex
I love your comparison video btw ๐ฎ Default vehicles are so bugged ๐
fleet garnet
Ty ๐
zealous ibex
Poor, poor driver ;P
modern perch
neat
now all you need is to spawn a wheel physics object and do the gif again, and I'm happy
modern perch
haha, that's not what I meant - I was more referring to using a rigid body to represent the newly detached wheel!
leaden root
That probably would look much cooler
modern perch
yus
wooden falcon
how's everyone's sales going?
after first 4 days or so, mine have leveled off at 1 or 2 a day now
summer jacinth
Ive been getting around $150 a day
ebon leaf
all over the place tbh. First day was $260, second day was like $110, third, $75... some other random numbers then yesterday was $255 lol.
ebon leaf
all in all, the total amount of the first week is in line with most of the other big sales epic have run like this for me, albeit with me putting more packages in it (which makes sense, as the older ones have a smaller potential market)
zealous ibex
My first few days where pretty great, but it's been dying out the last few (2) days
wooden falcon
yah, my sales have pretty much sucked, but I'm hoping I'll get a rating or two out of it
zealous ibex
Also, I recently noticed a refund in my sales report, and I got bored so read the FAQ. Isn't epic supposed to contact me about the issue before issuing a refund or did I get it all wrong? I don't mind the refund, I'm just curious what the cause of the refund was lol
ebon leaf
They are, except in one or two cases. But they always are supposed to let you know even in those cases
The only time they are SUPPOSED to issue a refund without clearing it with you is in the case of fraud afaik.
wooden falcon
you're supposed to get an email in that case
ebon leaf
yeah. But you will get the email after the fact
wooden falcon
I know I did
zealous ibex
Well I recieved nothing and this was like a week back ๐ค
wooden falcon
junk folder?
zealous ibex
How long does it take them to send emails? 4 months?
ebon leaf
I know someone else tried to say that as long as the pack hasn't been accessed they can refund as well, but I don't personally trust them to be able to track that so I always try to dispute that too ๐
zealous ibex
Hm, I'll check ๐ค
modern perch
well, they'll know if it hasn't been downloaded
ebon leaf
I've had a good ~10 'fraudulent transactions' never reported to me until I email them angrily a few days later with a "yo... wtf guys"
zealous ibex
MP emails usually don't end up in my jusk tho
ebon leaf
@modern perch you say that... but then in a thread where someone brough up an issue with paypal not charging, adam and steph asked if the person had eben able to download it ๐
modern perch
D:
ebon leaf
honestly... anythign with the marketplace won't surprise me, regardless of what should make sense XD
modern perch
true that
wooden falcon
just checked my junk...there's an important message from Chase bank...gotta enter my account details (though I don't bank with them)...this seems legit
๐
zealous ibex
Nothing ๐
Nothing in the 15 days before the refund, or after & not in any of my junk like mail boxes
ebon leaf
tbh - when I get a refund, if they haven't contacted me about it, then I email them the moment I notice it lol. I'm sick of waiting for their 50/50 emails ๐
zealous ibex
lol
This refund was 10 days ago, so doubt it's of much worth. But I literally recieved no cries for help that I didn't address ๐ค
ebon leaf
Still email them. They really need to be consistent
zealous ibex
And the ones I recieved I was still helping after the refund, so doubt that's the person
ebon leaf
One this is for sure - the random number generation in UE4 sucks, but the marketplace team has that shit down tight XD
zealous ibex
I'll shoot them an email when I log into my gmail account soonโข
It is pretty funny tho, -1 sales ๐
ebon leaf
the frustrating thing is how refunds are not displayed separate to the sales
so you could have 100 refunds and not know about it if you also had 100 sales -.-
ebon leaf
yep. The lack of transparency int he marketplace is really not cool
zealous ibex
Bummer places like Gumroad (which I finally joined, yay) don't have as much exposure....if any ๐ฆ
When I do a search for a tag I added to my pack it doesn't even show up (yes....I did publish the pack before trying)
ebon leaf
lol i have all my shit on gumroad and itch on sale atm, and a bundle on itch that is save 59%... HEAPS of traffic there, but pretty sure they all see it then just got ot the marketplace XD
zealous ibex
Atleast I got gum.co/InventorySystem I guess
Nice
Also, does gumroad take $10 off your first sale? (you seem to know how gumroad works) Or is the $10/mo kinda a subscription that gets you a better deal?
ebon leaf
I use the free version of gumroad so... idk ๐
zealous ibex
Ah, well I guess the answer is no then ๐ Awesome!
ebon leaf
Gumroad: A credit card purchase of one of your products was "charged back". We are fighting this and trying to reverse this. Please provide any information you may have about this that may assist us (it was a known pirate who bought it for an update and refunded months later).
~60 days later. Still fighting. I have not yet been charged the amount, but the battle is ongoing.
Epic: Someone emailed us and said their kid bought your content. We refunded without asking you. Deal with it yo.
lol
zealous ibex
lol, atleast they told you ๐
ebon leaf
I'm gonna email them after the sale, once I've downloaded all my marketplace purchases, and say that my kid did that purchase lol
ebon leaf
yeah. The case I gave above is legitimately what happened and is still happenign with gumroad
zealous ibex
What about the kid one?
ebon leaf
I mean that entire message is legitimate. Gumroad AND Epic
zealous ibex
And cool that gumroad is trying to fight back against stuff like that ๐
Oh lol, that's pretty insane lol
Bummer for you tho ๐ฆ
ebon leaf
Epic literally emailed me and said "some one said their kid did this and we just believed them. so tough luck son"
I don't really care that much... but I know a lot of my customers - legitimate and not. If they provided info on the customer, like literally EVERY OTHER marketplace does (doesn't need to be home address, social security number, ip and colour of underwear... just you know, an email lol) I might have been able to say whether they were someone I know is a pirate or not
like I said - the lack of transparency across the board with the marketplace is really uncool
zealous ibex
Yeah ๐ฆ
I wish I was creating art assets & not ue4-specific asset (like blueprints & plugins). Otherwise I'd be able to port them to other marketplaces that get you exposure too ๐ค
ebon leaf
yeah I know them feels ๐
zealous ibex
Gumroad also provides a serial key system btw, so awesome โค
zealous ibex
I have a project I quit because I wasen't sure if verifying every purchase with epic would be feasible (so I could give everyone a license key to a server-side thing for the client-side). But gumroad would be perfect for this
ebon leaf
yep
modern perch
I wouldn't be surprised if Gumroad just absorbed the chargeback loss instead of the seller
they seem to have their heads screwed on
ebon leaf
Talk to epic - you might be able to get one of those "external link" pages on the marketplace... but dunno how hard that is
zealous ibex
Yeah that's the feeling I got too when I signed up yesterday
external link? ๐
Pretty sure those are epic only right?
ebon leaf
nah there's a few plugins and stuff there.
I dunno if you need to be a big company or what
zealous ibex
Awesome, know a specific example?
ebon leaf
not off the top of my head... but can find one for you tomorrow
zealous ibex
That'd be awesome, I'll take a look in a min myself too ๐
Also, I'll wait till these 4 plugins I submitted are on the MP so I may build up a more serious seller reputation at epic. Currently only have 1 asset, so if I give them more revenue & am a more established seller, my odds may be higher ๐
Got one ๐
zealous ibex
That'd mean you'd have to handle payment and stuff yourself, doubt they'll give you one unless you're a huge corp who's been selling stuff through their own site & pretty much gets invited onto the MP lol
ebon leaf
theres another
zealous ibex
Thanks ๐
ebon leaf
if they were clever, and they arent, they would understand an email explaining it all and be okay with you linking to gumroad ๐ but... they aren't so lol
zealous ibex
I guess I could try, but I don't estimate my chances too high lol
Not allowing gumroad would be understandable
ebon leaf
nor do I... but it can't hurt to try.
zealous ibex
But having to set up a website which for sure works 24/7 and is secure....will require me to invest quite a lot in hosting + a lot of time into building a smooth buying experience
But hey, I'll try I guess ๐
ebon leaf
just set up a site that links the sale to gumroad and mask it enough that a 5-second glance, cause let's face it that's all epic do most of the time, will not reveal it's gumroad XD
zealous ibex
Tho sometimes I really think, give someone like allar, or someone who can code access to the marketplace for a week and let them redo the code & implement APIs ๐
lol, gumroad does have website embeds ๐ค
ebon leaf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyAfRi0toi4 << epic doing the news ๐
and on that note, I'm off to bed. Gotta sleep off the plague that I am currently suffering. Night!
zealous ibex
Also for questions like this, what is the best/most proper way to reach them? Sending them an email, using the public/private forum or something else?
Night ๐ค 
ebon leaf
yes email.
zealous ibex
And thanks for your help โค
ebon leaf
No worries ๐
wooden falcon
ugh, got my review results back
still have the seams/texture stretching issue
I re-unwrapped and re-baked 3 of my rocks that I though needed improvement, and used Substance Painter to smooth out the seams on some of the others, until I figured I had acceptable seams (based on other rock packs I've seen)
very frustrating, since they don't tell you what they're looking at
but I give them an A+ for speediness...I submitted the changes yesterday
zealous ibex
Nice
wooden falcon
bought a rock pack on the MP during this sale with great rocks, but it's seams are pretty visible
kind of hard to totally remove smooth group seams on organic objects ๐ฆ
oh well, if I can fix this, I guess the pack will be accepted
cause that would really farking suck to fix everything, and then they go "we don't want your pack right now"
wooden falcon
and I take it that Adam isn't really doing all of the reviewing, and just acts as the intermediary (or they just use his email account)?
rare lynx
@wooden falcon Some meshes, especially rocks, will always have some seams. The best you can do is minimize it to an extent. At least you got a response though, I've been waiting weeks for my Ice material and still nothing but silence.
delicate dove
you can vertex paint away seams <_< :p
wooden falcon
๐ฆ
your mat looks great from pics, btw
how Luos? teach me oh yoda ๐ฆ
having two uvs?
well, I asked for an example from them, so i can figure out what is a bad seam and what is an acceptable seam from them
cause it sucks to re-unwrap and re-bake only to get the same response
one thing I did discover that I never knew...you can't see the seams when using dynamic lighting
stark zinc
@wooden falcon, no idea if you're using blender or not, but this is how I would remove seams. I'm sure you can do the same thing in other applications. If you bake your textures, they will always have seams, you just have to paint over the seams after you've baked the textures. And I'm sure you could do better than my little demonstration, which doesn't look too good.
wooden falcon
it's not really an issue of seams in the diffuse though (well, there was, but I fixed those ones...had to do with projecting the diffuse from the hires photoscan down to the low poly model)
it's lightning seams due to the break of the smoothing group at the seams
but nice to know Blender is an option for that...I've been using Substance Painter
is that a clone tool in Blender, btw?
stark zinc
Texture paint mode with a clone brush.
wooden falcon
ah, nice
I can't get the SP one to work :/
end up just using the projection tool
stark zinc
Do you really need multiple smoothing groups on a rock?
wooden falcon
no, it's just one smoothing group
but the lighting breaks at the uv seam
probably due to the verts not being right on the grid (not sure how I'm supposed to do that with organic shaped, non rectangular islands)
stark zinc
Well in blender there's a snap to grid option for the vertices of the UV islands.
wooden falcon
in fact, not that I think about it, it HAS to be the lightmap uvs
cause the seams don't appear when lit by dynamic lighting
not=now...me no spell good
stark zinc
Yeah, you want to snap the lightmap uv islands to the grid, if increasing the lightmap size doesn't fix the artifacts.
wooden falcon
I fear if I jerk with the verts too much in the uv, it'll distort the textures along the seam, and it'll be just as visible
oh wait, maybe not if it's the lightmap uvs
stark zinc
Yeah, you're unlikely to notice any stretching of the shadow
wooden falcon
and you know what? I haven't even tried increasing the lightmap res yet
thanks Happy, you've been really helpful
stark zinc
You're welcome
delicate dove
@wooden falcon yea, an additional uv-map where the seams arent on the same places can be used to blend away the seams.
still though, requires a load of work depending on the shape
wooden falcon
ok, after requesting it they returned back some good images of seams and a bit of stretching for me to work on...now I feel like I have a goal
nova scaffold
I'm liking style of Syntys Studio assets but found an issue with them
wonder if devs are here
wooden falcon
what's the issue?
nova scaffold
let me double check to be sure
but I think they use separate material for each color
while all color are actually sampled from the same texture
"color" as in differentiation between stone and wood for example - there are no actual textures
just a palette
no, it's done correctly
so it's a bug with grouping multiple meshes into a single static mesh in UE4 itself
yay, I'm happy again ๐
nova scaffold
actually its rather a missing feature than a bug, as you can have different case as how they should be merged into a single mesh
wooden falcon
you mean LOD?
before 4.14 or so, if you loaded an LOD for a mesh, it created an unwanted material id
and you couldn't delete it...now you can
loaded an LOD manually in UE4 I should say
or you mean just loading multiple meshes as one static mesh
probably the same issue
nova scaffold
no-no, I mean "Make Static Mesh" from selection of objects in the level
wooden falcon
ah, k
rare lynx
Some early WIP shots of an upcoming modular fantasy marketplace product. Check it out. ๐ https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?150838-Modular-Fantasy-Environment&p=741515#post741515
stark zinc
That looks very detailed, I like it.
Looks kinda sci-fi to me. Reminds me of some Stargate interiors.
Goa'uld mothership interior or something like that.
rare lynx
Thanks! I looked at a lot of Cathedrals for inspiration haha. Though given I'm known for SciFi work hopefully it hasn't influenced this. ๐
stark zinc
Also kind of looks like some Elvish or Dwarven halls.
I guess decorations would have to be a bit different.
rare lynx
Somewhat of an elvish look was what I was going for a bit. It looks kind of Dwarven when I make the lights warmer. Once I start adding more of the props and other details it should be a bit clearer I think.
wooden falcon
hmm, jacking the lightmap res up on the rock mesh actually really helped the seam...what's considered an acceptable size, considering it increases build times?
very cool pics JE_JonF...reminds me of Wheel of Time
stark zinc
Depends on the size of your mesh. As small as possible, as big as needed. Personally, I wouldn't take build times into consideration.
wooden falcon
would 256 be overkill for a rock mesh?
cause that's where I start seeing huge improvements
rare lynx
Thanks @wooden falcon It also depends on how many instances you plan on having. If the seams are coming from your lightmap, maybe you should give the islands more space so that they don't bleed in lower resolutions?
wooden falcon
I'm using this rock pack I just bought as reference, and it looks like he's got all his at 256
I'll see if I can improve the lightmaps though
rare lynx
If you can get more space between the islands it may solve your issue at lower lightmap resolutions.
wooden falcon
lightmaps need space around the edges of the uv area too, right?
rare lynx
I'm not sure if that's an issue, but I don't tend to touch the edges on mine.
Check this out. IIRC they tell you how much spacing you need for your target resolution - http://www.worldofleveldesign.com/categories/udk/udk-lightmaps-01-basics-and-important-principles-for-creating-using-lightmaps.php
wooden falcon
thanks SE_JonF! I've seen that one, but it was a long time ago
wicked pebble
@HappyDay#0250 Totally see the Goa'uld vibe ๐น
zealous ibex
Woah ๐ฎ That's so awesome @rare lynx โค
@jovial thunder (from the forums) for example: We couldn't change our own prices, descriptions, or engine compatibilities, for around 2 years, which was nothing but wasted time for the marketplace staff. Pretty sure we still can't update our own prices :P. I am pretty happy about compatibility & description updating tho ๐ค (even when you press edit, it's an un-editable field)
silver moat
@zealous ibex You can update your prices, same place as you update description.
zealous ibex
You couldn't in my research (I checked this thismorning)
There is a field, but even when you press edit, it isn't editable
silver moat
Lemme checkl.
ebon leaf
yeah... you definitely cant update prices atm ๐ Epic said they didn't want to enable that one when they allowed description editing and that
zealous ibex
ebon leaf
there's a field for it... you get a red "NO" icon when you hover over it
zealous ibex
You can't ^^
silver moat
An why is that?
zealous ibex
No clue, but it isn't that odd
ebon leaf
I don't think they said tbh. But I imagine because they clearly don't trust sellers XD
zealous ibex
I mean, imagine prices updating randomly, it wouldn't make a lot of sense
But I am happy we get to edit our description(s) now ๐
ebon leaf
well you see shit like the "Archviz Ocean Shader" updating his price to well over double it's price, not addressing any complaints and just getting epic to slap the word "archviz" in front of it... and you can kinda see why they don't wanna allow people to update. That said - epic don't appear to be worried about customers as they still allowed that one to happen lol
red tape for the sake of red tape
for anyone unaware of what I'm talking about... https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/ocean-water-shader. It used to be $15, had HEAPS of complaints even at that price, as well as a bad rating. Then all of a sudden it skyrocketted up to $150, and the autho hasn't addressed any of the comments or anything. According to a friend who owns the product it didn't receive any update that he noticed lol
zealous ibex
Ouch
ebon leaf
put the word "archviz" in front of your product and multiply your price by 10x ๐ pro strat
coming soon... ArchViz Multiplayer Survival Game Template. $400!
๐
zealous ibex
Love your comment ๐
ArchViz Inventory System Deluxe Edition, Now On Sale For A Mere $999.99 ๐
ebon leaf
I was legitimately trying to give the guy a chance to explain it... it's been 1.5 months and he hasn't replied lol. So fuck him.
zealous ibex
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ebon leaf
I emailed Epic about it too... they said "we are lookign into this" and that was as far as it got lol
zealous ibex
He hasen't replied to any of the comments it seems
ebon leaf
shit like that makes me angry cause it's bad for all of us -.-
zealous ibex
"we are looking into this"
You know you hit a dead end
ebon leaf
yep lol
I recently bought something by one of the UE4 marketplace creators on cgtrader... they have this great thing on there... well lemme screencap
zealous ibex
An example of Ocean water for use as a reference guide or perhaps architectural visualization. I love his description too
ebon leaf
zealous ibex
Awesome ๐ฎ
My fastest reply is ~6m (as it regularly takes me 5+ minutes to write & check the email)
jovial thunder
:o
zealous ibex
๐
ebon leaf
that little % on the response rate is an awesome idea. that said, I don't trust epic with that XD
zealous ibex
But I usually reply within 24 hours if they send me an email
I just hate forum threads don't notify (even if you subscribe) & MP comments have nothing ๐ฆ
ebon leaf
haha yeah I've replied to some emails within minutes of them coming... but almost always within 12-24 hours, extenuating circumstances notwithstanding
zealous ibex
Nice ๐
ebon leaf
MP comments are trash lol. I hate that I have to open 6 tabs every few hours that I'm on the PC lol
it's not a big deal but there's really no excuse for it
zealous ibex
lol, there was some browser extention that I used to use, but it was rather $hit
ebon leaf
the most annoying thing is when I -do- get a comment I then have no idea if the person is ever going to read the response I give -.- Usually I track them down in the forums and PM them too lol
jovial thunder
Ones. I've been reporting them for Epic to remove them but that's a lost cause lol
zealous ibex
(something that checked for HTML element changes)
And yeah, I've told a few of my customers to shoot me a DM when they send something so I'm sure I'll read it
ebon leaf
I know of two comments epic have removed. They were very unfair personal attacks on sellers, and even then it took a team of like 20 of us emailing steph directly to get them removed after like 2 days lol
ebon leaf
Sometimes I get the feeling that doing work is above the paygrade of epic staff ๐
zealous ibex
lol
jovial thunder
Everything else that I downloaded from Unreal Market works and says it's 4.14 compatible and working on android. These should be tested before it's 4.14 compatible!!!! To many complains about not working on 4.14. My money. Not fair!!
Been up for 6 months, 3 down votes
No idea what they are talking about
zealous ibex
I support older versions, but don't always update them with the latest features. Seems quite a lot of other people are doing the same
And for plugins, I don't have the ability to even submit 4.13 versions. They can only stage the 3 most recent versions of eu4
Which is total b$ if you ask me as they do everything by hand, but ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
jovial thunder
I didn't know that :o
ebon leaf
@zealous ibex funny thing is, I spoke to Epic about doing precisely that and was told that I would have ot make it abundantly clear on my page that I was doing it... but we all know they don't check updates for anything lol
zealous ibex
๐ I've pointed it out to some people, but I saw noone mention it on their pages. I guess I'll add a disclaimer ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
jovial thunder
Made any progress on NetShield?
jovial thunder
You submitted a few months ago?
zealous ibex
I had to add a few comments, and clear up a few other things (like using braces on single line for loops & no braces on single line ifs). But it's something!
~2mo
jovial thunder
Hmm
zealous ibex
Lemme check zendesk
jovial thunder
I have so many things I'd like to submit, but these response times...
zealous ibex
Started 2 months ago, and I replied 5 days ago ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
jovial thunder
Unfortunately for me this isn't the only company I deal with that takes 2 months to respond to you :(
zealous ibex
I'm supprised how quickly they handled one of my submissions tho, must be due to them being ashamed about getting one of my submissions wrong
They responded a few times in those 2 months, but only recently got into code review
jovial thunder
Ah
Net shield includes encryption algorithm if I recall? Or just the other network stuff?
zealous ibex
The last reply is incorrect, some zendesk bug which I have no clue how to fix
It contains AES, which is encryption
But also SSL, SHA (hashing != encryption), base64 and a few other features that are in the same area :0
(I'm amazed about their response time to RSSFeeder tho, submitted it in the weekend and got a reply yesterday)
jovial thunder
I was going to submit a plugin for public private key encryption, but couldn't be bothered figuring out a big number library ๐คท
zealous ibex
๐ Don't let my submission limit yours tho, I'm mainly foccusing on network (TCP & TLS/SSL). Public key encryption isn't something I added (as AES is private key) nor plan on adding (any time soon)
jovial thunder
I was working on a thing in Blueprints to do math with infinitely long integers in the form of an array, but that kind of math takes a while :p
zealous ibex
๐ Offload it into a task
modern perch
that sounds delightful
zealous ibex
That way it won't clutter up the game thread, I do it for most of my socket stuff ๐
(that way I can use blocking sockets & callbacks)
jovial thunder
Meh :p
zealous ibex
lol, async tasks are really easy. Just a lot of boiler plate. Anyway, gotta eat ๐
zealous ibex
No clue, tho I have some MP plugins, I haven't ever checked that out ๐ค
I'd presume it is included, but don't quote me on that. Also, for stuff like async tasks, the engine source code is a gold mine ๐
wooden falcon
ugh, these seams are driving me nuts...I'm starting to see seams in real life
oak thistle
@zealous ibex Can you clarify - are you saying they told you to remove braces from if statements with a single line?
Oh no, just checked coding standards, presumably the other way around.
zealous ibex
They didn't mind which one (I think). It was just that it was inconsistent between them. I'll quote the text when I get home ๐
oak thistle
Okay yeah no worries, I misunderstood.
I'd recommend always using braces even for single statement if/for. It can prevent bugs when you later come back and add a line.
And that is also what they recommend in the coding standard it seems.
zealous ibex
Yup
elfin plinth
that's what the engine source has too
they try to enforce having braces on new lines too but there are segments in engine code where they put thing inline
and they definitely have braces there
single if might not look bad initially but when you start chaining things like these, things get messy
like put for loop and if's inside it
rare lynx
zealous kelp
is there no new MP content this week ?
leaden root
Nah MP probably just wanted to sit back and watch the sale income roll in
zealous ibex
It also sucks to be released during or after a sale
Barely anyone'll pick up your pack while it's featured (in the new content section) & getting a lot of exposure
ebon leaf
hoenstly, they shouldn't be releasing content during the sale
leaden root
Thats how they get revenge on content creators though
Notice how blue man was relased during sale
They must be waiting till next sale for uworks
zealous kelp
im sure blueman is probably just happy it got released at all after that wait lol
uworks is the steam plugin isnt it ?
zealous ibex
ue4 plugin for steam, yup
And yeah, he's probably happy, but it does suck ๐ฆ There'll be less buyers right when you're supposed to get exposure
I had sorta the same when I got released just after the sale, sales picked up a bit in the month after tho (guess people got money to spend again)
tame wasp
I bought the physics vehicle project, I think it will get more exposure since people will see it more often browsing new content. Plus it's likely to get added to the cart with sale items.
zealous ibex
True, the physics vehicle plugin is awesome โค
fleet garnet
@tame wasp Thank you ๐ https://media.giphy.com/media/SLD8eKFPuUDuw/giphy.gif
delicate dove
unverified rumours have it that Adam Davis is no longer part of the marketplace team O_o
modern perch
@fleet garnet - how is replication setup with the vehicles?
@delicate dove - That is correct, yes
he's not working at Epic any more to my knowledge
wooden falcon
is that a good thing?
fleet garnet
right now it only has standard ue4 replication, there is a partial support for client side prediction and I plan to add in the future client authoritative replication
modern perch
gotcha, so it's pretty limited at the moment?
fleet garnet
The same thing as with standard vehicles regarding replication. I'm working on client authoritative replication for a private project so in the future that is going to be one of the options.
modern perch
cool beans - that's the kind of stuff I'm quite interested in, so I'll be watching to see how you get on ๐
wooden falcon
adam sent an email back to me just this Tuesday
zealous ibex
Wait, they're letting more staff go? ๐ฆ
leaden root
Wait hold up
You said full client auth vehicles?
Holy shit
Where you hear this @zealous ibex
fleet garnet
yes, that approach is vulnerable to cheating (I will try to implement some checks for cheating) but it won't introduce any lag to player's vehicle
leaden root
Games like arma use client auth vehicles, which imo is kinda necessary
Makes them feels much better
zealous ibex
Well, luos just said this unverified roumor, and they recently let go of another member of staff (well recently, it's a little while back now)
fleet garnet
client side prediction is super hard to get right with PhysX, I got close but not sure how to handle dynamic collisions, that is why I decided to start working on client authoritative system
leaden root
Yea i would rather just client auth vehicles and do cheat protection myself
fleet garnet
can't promise anything yet when it is going to be added ๐
leaden root
Ill give ya 2 weeks to do it
fleet garnet
it might take a bit more than that ๐
leaden root
I thought it was just flicking a switch 
fleet garnet
it has 2 switches
leaden root
Ah yes, need both hands
modern perch
yeah, my username has gone bananas
when I'm logged in it just says 'unregistered'
everything else works though!
zealous ibex
RIP
ebon leaf
new marketplace content just dropped
zealous ibex
Poor fellows
ebon leaf
only 10 packs, and 6 of them are REXARD 2d icons lol
silver moat
@ebon leaf That's the second time this happens.
A while ago again there was like 8? packs from REXARD in one release.
Review 10 icon packs on Monday and go on vacation.
gaunt flicker
Wowwwwww you can't make discount adjustments during the sale, and there was zero indication prior to the sale
Am so sick of mp communication
oak thistle
@gaunt flicker Someone did that successfully a few days ago...
So I guess, try again and see who processes your ticket this time? ๐
gaunt flicker
Fuck it, am so done
lone mountain
@gaunt flicker ๐ญ
@gaunt flicker What were you planning on doing, out of curiousity?
gaunt flicker
I was trying to go from a 51% discount to a 25%discount
I understand the idea of locking sales
Just zero indication to sellers they were going to
lone mountain
Ah, lol
keen dome
Hey does anyone know whatever happened to the plugin for connecting to google firebase
lone mountain
Too bad you weren't doing 90% sale ๐
gaunt flicker
I am on two assets
lone mountain
Third time's a charm
I need to actually grab GS anyway, I thought I already had it
There's another sale for you
Pretty sure I've gotten at least one MP asset from almost everyone here.
Spread โค
wooden falcon
everyone? ๐
silver moat
People are getting marketplaced by the day and nothing changes. Very frustrating.
modern perch
Rexard however has managed to get 30 icon packs up in a month
the icons are fine of course, they're pretty solid generic icon packs
...but the last four marketplace updates have basically been all Rexard
merry totem
alright I need blood decals and effects. Anything on the market place that might be good? SUggestions?
ebon leaf
apparently don't buy this one if the comments are aything to go by lol https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/master-blood-pack
there was a good one I was going to recommend but I can't find it so idk
merry totem
hmm that looks a bit weak :/
ebon leaf
lol yeah ๐ i was suggesting to avoid it ๐
zealous kelp
@merry totem this free one is alright theres also another free one on the forums with more decals https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?2758-Decal-Quickstart-tutorial-Free-Blood-Pack-Download
i have the fxville blood pack it has some nice blood particles was worth the 20 bucks
zealous kelp
teslas decals are pretty nice thats the link for that above https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/fxville-s-blood-vfx-pack this is the paid one
zealous kelp
its got some gibs like brains and shit in some particles and lots of variations of blood like neck spurts
merry totem
Yeah the blood splosions and the neck spurts seem like a good idea. Also, when the body is on the ground having it make a pool of blood seems like a good idea
only issue with that is the body will be getting moved around sometimes
zealous kelp
the best blood splatter of any pack is in cubit studios ballistics FX project it has a particle that then spawns a decal where it hits, but its an expensive pack to buy for just blood, the other gun effects are really good though
ebon leaf
yeah I would agree with that re: Ballistics FX
zealous kelp
http://prntscr.com/g1bcdz this is a free project with blood decals i got of the forums around 4.12 but i cant find the link now its got about 50 decals
merry totem
Ballistics FX looks insanely good
ebon leaf
Honestly, if you think you will have any use for BFX, you won't regret the purchase. Very well put together pack IMO
BallisticsFX and EasyBallistics are easily the two packs on the marketplace I can recommend without a single thought to anyone plannign on using firearms in their games XD
zealous kelp
yeah its my fave MP purchase
merry totem
whish I knew about this sooner, I paid money for other stuff
:/
its not even close to being on the same level
zealous kelp
ballistics FX uses detects phys mats to spawn the particles so if you havent already implemented that in your game which i dont rember seeing from your streams you could slot it in pretty easy...it might still be on sale now i think, it really is the best gun FX on MP
merry totem
right now I am only using physical materials for impact effects
zealous kelp
it has only one muzzle flash though, your game might not need that variety of impact FX though
merry totem
not yet anyway
zealous kelp
that fxville blood pack is more the outlandish crazy blood fx that you might want,,,shooter game has a decent blood spray too that you can randomize the size for each hit so it looks varied
merry totem
Yeah using that now actually
zealous kelp
plus the epic blueprint project has the space invaders game with voxel explosions you could modify to look like voxel gore etc
merry totem
so far I have been liking the realistic effects with the game
it may not fit but it does seem to make things more dramatic
zealous kelp
yeah i agree the realistic effects suit it well they really pop in contrast to the backdrop
i enjoyed the last build
merry totem
๐
So far this project has been one of the most fun things I have ever done in game dev
reality is likely going to smack me down for this lol
zealous kelp
yeah i can tell your loving it from the streams
ebon leaf
...some more marketplace content just dropped. No 2d icons today though XD
modern perch
haha
rare lynx
@ebon leaf the day isn't over yet... ๐
modern perch
picked up the Perlin noise and cellular automata blueprints this evening
shit's legit, highly recommended
very well organised, commented and compartmentalised
lone mountain
@modern perch Which noise pack? There's like 5 noise packs.
modern perch
well, only one is a blueprint:
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/content/12c1ee999d8d4c348911333b697eee8a
the rest are just textures
lone mountain
doh
modern perch
hehe
upbeat rover
Does anyone know an addon that helps you with grouping stuff?
ebon leaf
Guys, if you have a moment, it would be appreciated if anyone who uses the marketplace, in any degree, could take the time to read this and leave any thoughts. Cheers.
https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?151121-Looking-for-input-to-give-Epic-on-buyer-confidence-and-seller-culpability
upbeat rover
Like, I've seen an addon on marketplace once (the guy was grouping animals together) , but I can't find it anymore.
silver moat
About to submit and wait for a rejection email.
I'm definitely missing a material somewhere that has no 0 connected to Metallic. That makes the content totally unusable for any projects.
summer jacinth
Yup
lean venture
@silver moat Why not Gumroad at the same time?
silver moat
Where's the fun in releasing something without any back and fourth.
Jokes aside, because gumroad doesn't have enough visibility.
lean venture
Yea, but having it on both can't hurt right?
silver moat
@lean venture It does hurt. Content goes up on torrent while you've still sold a fraction of what you can sell on marketplace so I prefer to release on mp first and release on gumroad sometime later.
delicate dove
Yea, ive seen it quite often that content hits torrents before it hits the marketplace
leaden root
Unfortunatly yea. One pack I bought on gumroad only had a few owners and it was already on a torrent site
ebon leaf
Just gotta make shit no one wants. My stuff didn't get pirated til long after it hit the marketplace XD
oak thistle
I have the same approach.
Though I couple it with zero marketing and exposure to really take it to the next level ๐
wooden falcon
lol poison
delicate dove
<_< just (finally) submitted a massive fireworks pack.
delicate dove
not sure yet, its quite a niche thing, but offers a load of variety along with modular parts that can be combined trough blueprint
ebon leaf
@delicate dove can I have a copy for free? I don't wanna pay but I'll put it in my game maybe. It'll be great exposure for you. lulz
j/k obviously :p
delicate dove
sure, I love feeding my girlfriend with exposure instead of food anyway :p
ebon leaf
that... may have sounded worse than it intended too 0.o lol
delicate dove
hehe
ebon leaf
Love when you have a product that has 19 x 5/5 star ratings, you have a sale, don't get ANY emails about complaints or bugs, and that 20th person rates it 1/5 stars XD
wooden falcon
๐ฆ
I thought I hit send on the email, sorry
j/k
somebody's always got to be a combo-breaker
ebon leaf
haha ๐ yeah
stark zinc
Oh, nice to hear it's finally done @delicate dove. Congrats. ๐
Let's hope it doesn't get rejected because there already is a fireworks pack on the MP.
wooden falcon
fireworks pack needs to come with a bloody stump hand mesh
delicate dove
hehe
wooden falcon
sale over tomorrow?
delicate dove
yuz
wooden falcon
oh wow, Steph's back?
sleek egret
I lurk
sleek egret
What's that?
wooden falcon
didn't you just have a baby? ๐
sleek egret
Nope, still cooking
wooden falcon
ahhh
sleep while you can
my kid woke me up at 3 AM for the first year and a half, pretty much nightly
sleek egret
That sounds right. ๐ I'll try to be better about actually sleeping before then
leaden root
Nice work marketplace peeps
gloomy bramble
Are there any "fun" gesture emotes on the MP ?
wooden falcon
one more trawl through the event sale I guess
celest marsh
had no idea there is marketplace content on torrents
Are people actually looking it up and downloading though ?
modern perch
probably
most of them would never have been customers in the first place though
(and if you catch them releasing a product with marketplace content they have not paid for, well...)
modern perch
they do look good
not sure all of them are UV'd properly, might be worth reading the comments ^^
wooden falcon
how would you screw up uvs on a low poly model? ๐
I got them more to analyze the style though
I'd love to do a pack in that style, just don't have any good ideas yet
delicate dove
"how can you mess up uv's on low poly objects"
https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/14720 <_<
those uv's are sooooooo poorly done.
wooden falcon
well, I mean low poly style like synty's ๐
where the materials area all solid colors diffuse, no AO or normals or anything
believe me, I know all about screwing up uvs on rocks
just sent me rock pack back to Epic...fully expecting the same red Fail with "visible seams"
tender flame
delicate dove
yuz, poor uv-mapping is poor
winged raven
Hey so, i thought i'd drop a little during the sale and get some 3D assets for prototyping. Only problem the Skeleton Crew Bundle 02 that I want says its onlly compatible with windows. I usually prototype on my macbook pro so it throws up an error when I go to buy it. I wouldn't think there would be an issue with using these assets on my macbook right? Its not like its a plugin.
winged raven
went ahead and got it... no problems
heady moth
Oh I thought those were your caves @delicate dove 
heady moth
ooh
shadow musk
Anybody here bought the Character interactions or TPS assets?
Are they rigidbody based?
I mean physics based
Or custom platformer code based on .. what was it. raycasts or something
Double post.. sorry
rare lynx
Yep. ๐ How about you?
wooden falcon
it was meh
still, was better than my normal month, I guess
not looking forward to this month, though
how's the fantasy environment coming?
delicate dove
sale went stupendously well
silver moat
Cyber monday always does tons better
leaden root
Thats still a couple of months away right?
ebon leaf
november 27th
gaunt flicker
My asset that was accepted 3 months ago just got rechecked and and is no longer approved
wooden falcon
๐ฆ
silver moat
@gaunt flicker Congratulations! ๐
lean venture
At least there are changes
When I read the MP team's replies, I almost believed things will improve
leaden root
They've been improving the actual functionality of the marketplace, but I haven't seen them say anything about the incompetence of the review team
gaunt flicker
Have yall seen the new review checklists?
gaunt flicker
If enough of us share reports we might be able to get a full report
ebon leaf
is it different to the one shared on the forums?
wooden falcon
nah, doesn't appear different
gaunt flicker
I can't see it on my phone, it says somerhing is attached but i can't access it
But if its the same, aye
I crippled my folder structure and it apparently still wasn't enough
God I hate the mp recommended folder structure
wooden falcon
yup
gaunt flicker
Apparently so does Epic since they don't use it
Somebody start a thing requesting Epic put all their public facing content through the mp pipeline
Am too tired <_<
delicate dove
I would already be happy if we all where asked to put our content in a content/MP/yourpacknamehere folder
waaay less clutter in content browser
tame ruin
If I buy something from the marketplace, how do I know it's 100% legal? Like, what if the seller used pirated photoshop or something of that sort, could I get in trouble if I used their product?
lone mountain
@gaunt flicker lolololo
silver moat
@gaunt flicker https://i.imgflip.com/1tjp6q.jpg
silver moat
delicate dove
@tame ruin anybody who uploads pirated/non legal content gets a permaban from ue4 & the marketplace. additionally in the few instances where it happened you can ask a refund, and well.. you need to remove that content from your project.
silver moat
they get banned maybe, and then register new account.
seller has to refund the purchase
his content continue to be on the pirate site though
its only the seller who gets burned in the middle, always
rare lynx
@wooden falcon sorry didn't see your reply yesterday. I'm sorry to hear that. Sales are usually slow during the summer, probably due to Steams sale which overlaps a bit with UE4 users.
Fantasy environment is coming along nicely. Will have more to show soon. ๐
zealous ibex
Dang it, getting a release date 5 days in advance while on holiday ๐ฆ
Oh well, let's see if I can somehow postpone this release. Releasing just after the Summer Sale would probably be a horrible idea anyway]
Can't really complain tho, 5 days seems to be pretty good nowadays & it took them a mere ~2mo to review these plugins (tho another one of mine has been waiting for nearly 3 lol)
wooden falcon
yah, after the Summer sale is a bad time to release
so is adam out? I thought someone mentioned that...hope people are still checking his ticket queue
ebon leaf
adam is gone yeah
jovial thunder
Gone as in on vacation?
ebon leaf
nope. As in nolonger with epic
jovial thunder
Ah
ebon leaf
Him, Ryan and I think one other person attached to the MP are gone, though I may be wrong and I don't know who it was lol
jovial thunder
Which Ryan is that?
ebon leaf
kitatus
ebon leaf
he's been gone for a bit now
ebon leaf
yah. He was the only BP reviewer at the time. Was there for about 8 months I believe
jovial thunder
I see
wicked pebble
Why'd kitatus leave?
ebon leaf
I dunno. Rumours have he got fired but I have nothing to confirm that either way lol, so it's probably just people talking shit
jovial thunder
It was just a contract position though wasn't it?
slim marsh
Hey guys, question: In the UE4 MarketPlace submission guide, it says to erase every folder but the one you are selling. In UE4, there's a bunch of engine and C++ folders. Should I keep those or try and erase them. They seem pretty important. I'm just selling some sound effects. So I just have a folder with audio files and another with sound cues.
zealous ibex
Make a copy, and nuke Everything except Content, .uproject, Config & <sec>
(for BP projects, please make a backup before attempting ^^)
Anyway, did you create a c++ project? I'd reccomend migrating everything to a blueprint project if you're doing sound ๐
zealous ibex
Anyone mind telling me the USD price of https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/ms-sql-integration ? I'm going to be selling a product a bit like this soon, but I think my price is way too low (which I don't want, I kinda respect his work) ๐ค
(I live in the EU, so taxes etc make it kinda hard to see how much they're charging)
ebon leaf
34.99
zealous ibex
ty โค
(that means my price was a little over half, which'd be unfair towards the poor fellow)
zealous ibex
True, true
He has a few features I didn't add (like image support, because storing images in a db is pretty horrible practice in my opinion) and I have a few like he doesn't advertise (he may have them tho. An example'd be prepared queries & the way I create them, mine essentially uses a special format string node specifically created for SQL queries)
And ofcourse, we differ in database "engine". I'm using PostgreSQL where he is using MSSQL
zealous kelp
so no new MP content this week by the looks of it....i saw the post about creators being able to submit themselves whenever is it perhaps switching to that system maybe
jovial thunder
I thought that was just being able to set your own release date after your thing passes review?
zealous ibex
I may have 2 releases next week ๐ค
Really going to try and separate the 2 launches lol, it's my first plugin so 2 of 'em would be a ton of work & exploring the unknown in one go
And being able to set your own release date....yes please lol
zealous kelp
i thought the post said upload updates yourself etc but im not sure...first thing i thought of was mixamo anim packs on sale lol
jovial thunder
oh, dunno
I just need something that convinces me to submit all of the things I've worked on over the last 12 months
zealous ibex
O.o
I just did a plugin creation/submission marathon, don't reccomend it tho. So much hassle waiting multiple months for them to get back ๐ค
jovial thunder
Eh I was done submitting things after my pack was rejected
zealous ibex
Bummer man ๐ฆ
jovial thunder
Once review procedures and standards are clear, I will happily submit everything
zealous ibex
Yeah, they shared their internal checklist tho....I think
jovial thunder
Lol
a few words on each checkbox is no checklist unless you know how they judge whether or not to check it off
zealous ibex
True, true
jovial thunder
Like 'Clean and commented Blueprints', means nothing if I'm told my Blueprints aren't clean, when they look clean to me
zealous ibex
Yeah ๐ฆ
It tends to refer to logical order & no wires that cross over, but I'm not the one judging ๐ค
slim marsh
Thanks @zealous ibex i made a blueprint project but c++ folders are still there i don't think i can erase them though
zealous ibex
Ah, in that case it's probably showing them, there should be a setting, but it's nothing to worry about. They don't really exist in your project, it's just that the engine is showing 'em to you
slim marsh
Ah ok cool bacons! Thanks.
slim marsh
Ok looks like I can't erase the Engine Content either. Tried doing that and UE4 crashed.
zealous ibex
๐ค
slim marsh
I'll just submit it and if they yell at me for hanging on to it, I try again to erase it.
zealous ibex
๐ Good luck with your submission ๐
slim marsh
Thanks! I'll let you all know how it goes.
zealous ibex
What's the best place to ask the marketplace team a question? I don't really want to use the forums as part of it could be confidential & I need an official statement, not some random joe's opinion. I know I'm supposed to email marketplace-support@unrealengine.com for product related questions, but I have a question before I actually submit the product ^^
zealous ibex
I guess I'll give that a shot ๐ Thanks ๐
lol, I think I have 5 open requests to epic (of which 4 are plugin submissions)
jovial thunder
Looks like some comments on my marketplace products that I marked as spam a few months ago have been removed sometime in the last few days. Good to see!
shadow musk
lol! There is no 3d platformer asset in marketplace
ebon leaf
@shadow musk off the top of my head there is this: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/platformer-starter-pack
there are likely others but I don't know the whole marketplace like the back of my hand haha
shadow musk
@ebon leaf Those are 3d asses not platforming pack with code and assets
shadow musk
Yes
ebon leaf
you just said assets ๐
shadow musk
You could easily get 3d assets from anywhere else other than marketplace
ebon leaf
agreed. Like I said - you just didn't specify template/blueprint haha
I imagine there's not a big enough market to warrant someone making it. 3D platformers are somewhat of a niche genre now, sadly ๐ฆ
ebon leaf
shrugs I'm just going by the number of 3d platformers I see released these days
if I thought there was a market I would probably make a template for that... that would be super fun haha.
shadow musk
I hope 3d pltatformers make a comeback, but alas I'm probably just dwelling in the past
ebon leaf
I'm there with you
I love 3d platformers and collect-a-thons
sadly, its all survival games and cover-shooters now ๐
shadow musk
Well for the asset flip that has been succesfull there's Brilliant bob.
It uses the Physics platformer from asset store
For a complete asset rip off it did well
lol
shadow musk
I guess they gave away steam keys, that's why they have so many reviews
The word successful might have been used wrong, but it is for a rip off successful
enough
ebon leaf
haha
ebon leaf
lol wow... yeah. GG 'developer' XD
Now you got me curious as to whether something like that would do well on the UE4 marketplace
I really don't wanna make another template though =/
ebon leaf
haha
gaunt flicker
50 questions, from 2 people
ebon leaf
"how can I solve the single thing that has been plaguing 3d platformers since their inception and make the camera good in all situations?!"
gaunt flicker
Make perfect camera system
"How do do this camera system in game known for having a bad camera system"
My favorite
How do I convert from third person to first person
ebon leaf
lol
zealous ibex
I stopped reading, but didn't smurfies create one?
I had one, but I didn't throw it on the MP because he's awesome & I wasn't that into the MP ^^
shadow geyser
@ebon leaf I think that platformers are making a comeback but only in the vr market . Because most platformers are simple controls and simple gameplay. Jump here ,collect this , press that that it is suited to vr and being able to see as the character makes it more immersive . Also a platformer will have less vr sickness as they are generally slower paced
ebon leaf
True. Though I still don't see them being very big even in VR. I would -love- to be wrong though
zealous ibex
I really could have sworn that there was a template, sighs
I guess I'll dust off mine ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
I'm usually very unhappy with 3d platforming but this wasn't half bad! (prototype...so I guess it isn't even that bad ๐ )
shadow musk
@zealous ibex What do you mean by dust off mine?
zealous ibex
That I pretty much have a template, that needs some work before it's ready to publish
For example, I'd need to replace the mixamo asset & terrain textures + clean up my blueprints
zealous ibex
๐
heady moth
o.o
zealous ibex
Mind explaining? The characters use gravity & have velocity etc if that's what you're reffering to
(that was a lot of prototyping to get some spline action going btw, man is that hard stuff)
shadow musk
Like Rigidbodys etc using built in physics in Unreal
zealous ibex
Most of my stuff is using static mesh components (which could have something like a RigidBody) collider, default colliders & other unreal default physics components
I didn't want to re-write stuff that was already done ^^
shadow musk
Yeah. I guess in the old days consoles couldn't handle full physics engines so they wrote their own implementations
zealous ibex
Yep, physics are reasonably optimized nowadays tho ๐
shadow musk
What features are currently implemented?
zealous ibex
Dissapearing platforms, standard platforms, elevators (both automatic & when a player steps on them), checkpoints, moving platforms & more to comeโข
shadow musk
I mean in the character movement
zealous ibex
That's what I'm still working on, currently trying to implement a well working grapling hook system
For the rest running,walking is the only thing currently implemented
Oh, and double-jump
shadow musk
I think grabbing, ledges etc are more important than Graplling Hook
real dust
@zealous ibex One with proper pendulum physics? :3
zealous ibex
I'll work on those too, but for now I wanna get a few basic mechanics done (and grapling hook is pretty easy)
wooden falcon
hmm, Epic was doing so good with responding back to me on my submission, then Adam leaves and I haven't heard anything in a week
surely they're checking his backlog?
ebon leaf
Steph said in the forums that currently response times are between 1 and 2 weeks. Which sucks, but I wouldn't panic just yet.
ebon leaf
hah aXD
wooden falcon
it'll be a month later, and the response will be "Fail: visible seams"
ebon leaf
even better "Fail: No visible seams" XD
ebon leaf
I mean... if you say they are invisible rocks they can't argue right?
"visible seams" XD
wooden falcon
yup
one invisible rock at 15k tris...had to get a lot of detail in it...but it's got LODs!
ebon leaf
haha
zealous ibex
I'm concirned as I have 2 emails concirning packs that launch in 2 days ๐
olive plume
zealous ibex
Hng, I need to record some in-game stuff...but OBS keeps running at 8fps ๐ญ
Why is actually submitting harder than creating content, why?! lol
real dust
@zealous ibex disable windows aero
zealous ibex
win10 doesn't have aero I believe
I think my main issue is that this computer I'm working on doesn't have a gpu
(well, it has an intel HD but that's pretty $hit when it comes to GPUs)
ebon leaf
lol oh god... doing ue4 stuff with a intel hd XD
zealous ibex
๐ I could choose between $hit compile times but a gpu on my own computer & fast compile times but no real gpu on another computer ๐
As I'm mainly doing plugins today, I opted for the second option ^^
rotund schooner
@zealous ibex the fluent design system is what aero had but not that heavy
ebon leaf
welp 4.17 is out
gg epic
and I was hoping to get some productive work done this week too
heady moth
^
zealous ibex
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I have multiple plugins.....in submission stage.....about to release......kill me please
autumn perch
4.17 is out?
zealous ibex
Nuuuuuuu, it's true ๐ญ
ebon leaf
Yeah.
zealous ibex
Welp, looks like I'll be doing a lot of updating lol
fleet garnet
whyyyyyy???? ๐ข
ebon leaf
I wish Epic would give us a heads up on this shit, and ideally a week or so access to the FINAL RELEASE version so we could update in a more timely fashion (preview builds are a waste of time for marketplace stuff)
fleet garnet
with plugins you just hope that everything just works and you won't be trying to fix it for the next week
zealous ibex
๐ yeah
I remember 4.15->4.16 broke quite a lot of $hit
(due to the change is the .build.cs)
zealous ibex
Mine's still downloading ๐ค
wooden falcon
damn, you must a good internet connection
I have like, 1.5 meg downstream...rural DSL
takes all night to download a new engine update
heady moth
Yeah 220mbits :p
wooden falcon
"Add "Reset Material Slot" fbx option when doing a re-import with the import dialog option. There is now an editor preference option to show the fbx import dialog when doing a re-import to allow the user to use the new "Reset Material Slot" option."
yeeeees
"Fixed some cases where folders wouldn't be removed from the Content Browser when deleting them"
heady moth
Oh that's a good one
zealous ibex
Woohoo! 4.17 supported without any issues for my BP project โค
Now for the tedious task of updating my plugins tho ๐ฆ
ebon leaf
Whats up with the marketplace team? They take ages to respond... ๐ก
wooden falcon
lol
ebon leaf
what?
zealous ibex
That's become the standard now
wooden falcon
zealous ibex
It takes anywhere between a few hours to a few weeks ๐
wooden falcon
it's pretty much expected behavior now
zealous ibex
Also, I really need to chase 'em up about taht refund ๐ค
(~1mo and heard absolutely nothing)
I just don't wanna spam' 'em, I already have 5 open requests ๐
ebon leaf
I mean everything was alright, they just wanted me to rename some assets so that all begin with capital letter, and since then they did not respond for more than a week ๐ฆ
wooden falcon
yah, that's my situation too
zealous ibex
(soon to be 6 or 7 ^^)
wooden falcon
submitted my pack, they responded within a couple of days with required fixes, fixed, then they replied a couple of days with additional fixes (well, pretty much the same fixes), and now I haven't heard from them in a week
but based on horror stories I hear here, a week isn't bad
ebon leaf
If it is handled by their system and providing they are too busy with too many submissions, it could at least give an automated response. It drives me crazy. Like change one letter and wait a week omg no ๐ฆ
zealous ibex
Dude, I've waited 1mo+ for that ๐
ebon leaf
me too, Ive been waiting for MONTHS literally
wooden falcon
I almost screwed up my submitted fixes too
fixed the seams and reimported, but forgot to regen some collision...caught it before I resent
ebon leaf
got no response and then asked why and they said they JUST CHANGED RULES and soo need to RECHECK my stuff and omg. ๐ฆ
wooden falcon
did you get the check list?
ebon leaf
you mean the list with changes to be done?
wooden falcon
yah, they send a list with a list of things they check...things to fixed are marked with Fail and a comment
ebon leaf
Funny thing is, they did not even send it, they just said it needs to be changed so I had to asked for what is to be changed and then received it. Then resent back, wait and wait until now
wooden falcon
although the second time around, my list had an additional Fail (my Overview map didn't include a reflections capture probe)
well, the check list thing is very recent
ebon leaf
haha they even told me my map is too dark (even if I set the luminosity according to the guidelines) ๐ :/ so now it exceeds the guidelines, but hopefully its okay ๐
sullen lion
lol what if they say its too bright
ebon leaf
yeah like what the hell set it by yourself okay? I give you the permission, come on its just one number, its quicklier to set it by yourself ๐
wooden falcon
maybe you can add a postprocess volume and change the eye adaptation? set it to a constant brightness
ebon leaf
maybe ๐
wooden falcon
I hate the eye adaptation feature in UE4
ebon leaf
anyway, this is my asset btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMV4Zar55I4 I tried to make the most flexible and customizable mini map system ever available on the marketplace
(if u wanna have a look)
wooden falcon
looks pretty cool (though the music in the video was driving me crazy)
ebon leaf
yeah sorry ๐ copyright free music ๐
zealous ibex
Pretty nice minimap ๐ฎ
ebon leaf
thanks @zealous ibex , it can take any shape (you can set by vertices cords), offers both simple and advanced rendering... MORE info here: https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?147071-UltraMap&p=720951
wooden falcon
what's the price point?
wooden falcon
via email request
ebon leaf
Its my first submission, so I hope I set the price about right.. I added 10 dollars for the functionalities and flexibility that already available mini maps lack
thats why 60
zealous ibex
60 is a lot ๐ But it's probably worth it ๐
Would this be considered offensive? (working on the submission trailer for an asset)
wooden falcon
not sure why it would be offensive
zealous ibex
Hm, true
I'm trying to be a bit more like @ebon leaf ๐ But I don't want to be rude against any group of people in the process ^^
wooden falcon
lol
hearty olive
https://80.lv/articles/procedural-landscape-ecosystem-for-ue4/
This is freaking awesome
zealous ibex
wooooow, that's so awesome โค ๐ฎ
ebon leaf
Ikr?
when is that coming out lol
it woudl replace the need for a lvl designer on open world maps
ebon leaf
@ebon leaf haha it cant replace a level designer. Level design is like a game design on smaller scale. It has a lot to do with psychology and influences the overall experience player has when moving throughough level. Thus, it cannot be replaced since good level design is NOT just a genuine & real looking environment generator.
wooden falcon
hand made environments usually feel better than procedural ones, but the procedurals have come a long way
dagger fall was huuuuge, but got really boring...morrowind felt more personal, and there was reward for exploring, in seeing the cool little nooks and crannies of the environment
ebon leaf
morrowind โค
slim marsh
There are plenty of games with BIG worlds with no design. Walking through trees and grass is only fun for so long.
And also... I'm pretty sure I just submitted my content without actually uploading the content itself... xD I couldn't find the "upload content" button and figured it'd be on the next page, nope.
Only saw something for uploaidng the screenshot.
Now Epic has a submission for sound effects with no actual sound effects. . Where do you submit the actual .zip file?
ebon leaf
That's the first stage of submission
you have to get the okay then they ask for content
I imagine it is ludicrously stupid for sound assets lol
at least it KINDA makes sense for other stuff ๐
basically stage 1 is an elevator pitch to epic
stage 2 is actual files
slim marsh
Oh... wow that's weird. They don't make that extremely clear. They even ask for a video file and screenshots.... there really should be a section that says "What type of asset is this?"
I put a soundcloud link in the video area and left examples of the sound effects in the description. Hopefully they don't think they're too cartoony or something. xD
ebon leaf
Agreed they should make it clearer lol. There should be more fields to accommodate the appropriate asset types lol.
zealous ibex
What's the best way to chase up the MP team? (stephanie specifically). I have 2 tickets about items which are supposed to be launching within the next 36 hours ๐
ebon leaf
@zealous ibex email her directly
zealous ibex
Mind sending/DM-ing her my email? I'll give them another 12 hours, but after that it'll take too long for my liking ๐
(oh wait....nevermind, thanks <3)
ebon leaf
๐
zealous ibex
What? It'll be like the only time both epic and me will be awake at the same time before they release....kinda
ebon leaf
I mean @ asking me to do something but it being done ๐
@shadow musk re: conversation yesterday: https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?125187-FREE-ThirdPerson-Action-Platformer
shadow geyser
I feel for you marketplace creators . I only wrote one guide like 6 months ago and I still get constant daily emails and people adding me about it so i dread to think what it's like to have to provide support for market place packs lol
zealous ibex
๐ It can suck at times, especially when it comes to compatibility with other assets....that you don't even have. But hey, atleast we get paid to do this stuff I guess ๐
(for example, someone's HUD was blocking my InventorySystem's UI....but it was pretty much unfixable, even setting ZOrder & Priority didn't do things ๐ค)
ebon leaf
dont even get me started on helping integrate other packs XD
@zealous ibex the customer is allowed, under the terms of the marketplace puchase, to provide you with a copy of the asset in question for the purpose of covering the integration. You just can't use it for yourself obviously
zealous ibex
Hm really? Wasn't aware, but it's usually self-made assets that form an issues + doubt they'll wanna send me stuff
ebon leaf
It basically comes under doing contract work, but just for free haha
zealous ibex
๐
ebon leaf
and yeah the self made stuff is a different matter haha
zealous ibex
I'm pretty happy most of my customers can just plug 'n play ๐
ebon leaf
just... don't realease a template XD that's my tip for avoiding giant support queues
zealous ibex
๐
Well.....I just submitted one (like a few minutes ago)
There ain't no going back now 
ebon leaf
haha platformer?
zealous ibex
Yep, so it won't be as popular as a survival template (woohoo!)
But it differs from the free one you linked there ^^
And with a few minutes ago....I actually mean a few minutes ago ๐
shadow musk
@zealous ibex You already made the Platformer template?
gaunt flicker
I'm on the event graph
ebon leaf
oh yeah lol then I put a print string
make an empty function taht just goes to a return node and use that XD
gaunt flicker
Its not an error for it to fail a cast, its proper behavior is to literally do nothing
gaunt flicker
Ayeeee
zealous ibex
@shadow musk Yeah, I made it ages ago, but then someone else (who I knew) released one...so I didn't want to compete
It required some work to upgrade from an ancient version (4.11 I believe) to 4.16....but hey, if I have it lying around and the old one isn't there anymore, I'd just as well publish it I guess right?
ebon leaf
Yerp. If they turn it down, whack it up on some other site and post it on the forums. Getting 1 or 2 sales is still better than none (not saying you will only get that many, but you know what I mean ๐ )
zealous ibex
Yep
gaunt flicker
I don't really know how to handle this
Confetti, its.. confetti
SodaSprayer... it sprays soda
ebon leaf
You need to list all the colors in the name for the confetti, clearly
and the chemical makeup of the soda
geez allar ๐คฆ
gaunt flicker
Ah, thats it
modern perch
haha
yeah, I'm not quite sure how you get more descriptive than 'Confetti' for a confetti particle system
'PS_RedWhiteBlueGreenPink_Confetti'
ebon leaf
lol