idle panther
I don't get this
#fab
delicate dove
t make sure you arent a bot
wooden falcon
guys...what if he's a bot? :/
j/k
Blade Runner 2 is going to be so boring when all the replicants get outted by Captchas
wicked pebble
Lol!!
wicked pebble
What does this say then
1000101110100000101000100010100000101111101010101110101000001010011000111110010100
zealous ibex
@wooden falcon Mine have been quite OK this month, last month was a horrible month (for me) tho 😛
Hope your sales do pick up tho 😃
wooden falcon
yah, me too 😃
zealous ibex
Does anyone have any references on selling a product that requires a third party service? (that you'd get access to with your purchase of the pack)
I can't seem to figure out if it's allowed or not, but I'd love to sell the project I'm currently working on (there'd be a lot of server-side work to be done too, so I'd want to keep that non-free too, or people could just steal my work lol)
silver moat
Hey all, these stuff are on sale: https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?145543-Pixel-Perfect-Polygon-s-SALE-has-started!
Buy even if you don't need them.
delicate dove
hehe
zealous ibex
There need to be more open-to-everyone sales 😛 I quite liked the last sale event I participated in lol
carmine dove
im up for that
stark patrol
Does anyone use MySQL for their games? I've built a MySQL plugin that can be dynamically added to a game to expand, create, destroy, etc. all from blueprints or my custom C++ libraries. I've been thinking about putting it on the marketplace, but I don't know if anyone would even use it.
wooden falcon
I'm sure someone would use MySQL
it's used a lot for websites, not sure about games
ebon leaf
I have a number of customers using SQL in it's various versions for managing save data in their survival games so I would say go for it shrugs
wooden falcon
there's a plugin for Microsoft SQL Server interfacing already, but I don't see anything for MySQL
true torrent
Hi yoeri was looking to friend you if poss I'm a big admirer of your work and looking to get into visual fx but still learning can you suggest any books or tips thank you mike
silver moat
@delicate dove is always very passionate to hear from fans and will do his best to guide you on your trip! 😃
summer jacinth
@wooden falcon my sales have taken a dip this month
wooden falcon
yah, this month's been rough
ebon leaf
@wooden falcon I can confirm this aswell
delicate dove
GET THE FFF OUT OF THIS CHAT @true torrent !!
hehe just kidding
hugs @true torrent
Though this is not really the place to talk about rando stuff, so imm @ you in graphics about books/whatever
uncut niche
Anybody else had issues when trying to create a Unreal Engine Marketplace profle/seller account? My account is newly created and I'm getting this error everytime: "Error
Message: Sorry, one of the items you were trying to create or modify already exists in the database."
delicate dove
I have had trouble logging in, but a refresh often helps
that.. i havent encountered yet
uncut niche
I've opened a support ticket, will keep an update on any progress.
zealous ibex
@Jaysmitt#1843 sure your name haven't been taken?
uncut niche
@zealous ibex Just gave it another ago and it works fine now, maybe some kind of server downtime or something?
zealous ibex
Could be 🤔 It's usually that something in their database already exists (and is marked as unique). But glad it worked! 😃
My youtube "killed" itself 😦 I'll take a look when I get behind my laptop @ebon leaf 😃 From what I can see by the cover image, it looks pretty sweet 😃
zealous ibex
😦 Bummer, just to let you know tho, I'm (personally) not ignoring you 😃 Your work looks awesome!
wooden falcon
that's pretty cool looking Iheanacho
now, if it let tons of people connect in a multiplayer top-down deathmatch, or a coop ala Smash TV, that would be awesome
and needs destructible environments
wicked pebble
Not gonna lie it has his signature creepy tiny limbs in front of face.
Kinda creepy.. 6/10.
wooden falcon
yah, some of his stuff is rather creepy
I like the skeleton and rat people meshes though
wicked pebble
Definitely
wooden falcon
do you have ai (appears so from the video)?
if I were you, I'd get a stable build without multiplayer and submit that, then do the multiplayer as an update
the submission process takes a long time
ah shit, did 4.16 just drop?
yah Iheanacho, most people add multiplayer on later
I mean, if you can get it working before, that's great
but don't spend 6 months trying to perfect in when you can at least be making some money during that time
ugh, 4.16 is going to take me forever to d/l
"low level cloth simulation tools" hmm, interesting
wooden falcon
I don't think there are many paper2D projects, so there shouldn't be too much competition
they tend to be stricter when the field is crowded
I'm glad the udemy.com sale is ending soon...I bought way too many tutorials
harsh coral
what tutorials did you get ?
wooden falcon
you mean, which ones DIDN'T I get? 😃
some Blender, photoshop, worldmachine, maya, unreal, python, a zbrush one, and one on matte painting
harsh coral
i'm not familiar with their catalog, so that's why i asked
😃
ohhh, lol i just assumed they were all ue4 related
wooden falcon
nah, they have a lot of stuff
actually, not a lot of ue4 specific (other than the 3dmotive ones)
I don't like that it's all online, and you can't download the videos, but oh well
harsh coral
yeah, we are just subscribing to stuff these days
but for learning material it would make sense to be downloadable
you can watch it while traveling etc
ebon leaf
Anyone who retweets this for me gets a free raptor credit. Please note that raptor credits are a meaningless made up currency that hold no value in any forum except my heart 😉 Also, thank you XD
https://twitter.com/dapperraptordev/status/867493036850266112
wooden falcon
those look like the health globes from quake 3 😃
ebon leaf
that is no coincidence 😛
I was looking for the easiest way to make a demo health pickup... and Quake is life to me 😛 so... yeah XD
wooden falcon
cool
I always liked the health pickups in Blood...little glowing red hearts...like, real hearts, not valentines day hearts
ebon leaf
I somehow skipped blood the game. Not really sure what happened there lol
wicked pebble
"where do I redeem my Raptor Credits?"
Gets hugged "Like that."
"Oh. That' s it?"
"I can take it back if you'd like."
ebon leaf
XD Pretty much!
wooden falcon
raptor hugs seem like a bad idea
ebon leaf
...you got something against raptors?! :p
wicked pebble
"What can I get with thirteen hundred Raptor Credits?"
"... A signed picture, with a restraining order?"
"Why a restraining order?"
"You'd have to be some kind of weirdo to accumulate that many Raptor Credits."
ebon leaf
lol XD I should employ you for my marketing @wicked pebble
wicked pebble
I'd love it XD
"Buy our pack, and earn yourself five raptor credits! What's that? Not enough? Well, how's about suppo-- I've been told that customer support is bad for my health, but hey, you got Raptor Credits!"
@wide bronze I am so sorry.
ebon leaf
haha XD
wicked pebble
They need to add a wishlist to the marketplace.
Then I could receive a lot of those poisoned gifts because everyone loves me.
Aghk.
@rain oak this is your doing.
ebon leaf
lol 😛 you can have all the raptor credits in the world now XD
rain oak
wot?
wicked pebble
You've given me apundicitis.
wicked pebble
It was your plan all along 😐
Become my friend, and infect me with apundicitis. Turn me into one of them
leaden root
Lol still no code plugin releases
ebon leaf
They usually come out on Friday for some reason.
leaden root
Thats random
ebon leaf
lol yeah... I dunno why they are separate to the other packs =/
zealous kelp
they often dont come out though seems like about every third week or so they do
leaden root
Idk why they got a bloody bunch waiting
shadow geyser
@ebon leaf "I tried for months to get pregnant " lol worth buying just for the trailer so funny man
zealous ibex
@leaden root The review process seems quite slow too
BP's got me a reply back within a matter of days (I think), but this code plugin is taking them close to a week and counting 😛
Epic doesn't give us an API for validating purchases right?
indigo grotto
i think you'd have to make your own
zealous ibex
Bummer 😦
I was hoping there was a quick way for me to validate purchases (as the next idea I'm working on requires a non-free, but provided with the plugin, piece of software I created)
(I have to lock it down as half of the plugins' work is on the server-side lol)
I could easily write an SMTP wrapper, but I'm scared epic may get mad at me for sending them pretty much an email every few days ^^
leaden root
You have to email epic and ask them
zealous ibex
I could do that I guess 🤔
leaden root
Cause a simple email checker is too hard right?
zealous ibex
They left 😦
zealous ibex
I origionally created this idea for something non-gamedev related, but I can quite easily port it to ue4 and think some others could use it too 😃 I'll shoot epic an email asking them about what they think 😃
leaden root
Is the third party software yours?
zealous ibex
Yup
The worst-case senario is I need to create a limited free version and do it that way, as I've seen people do that on the epic MP before
I'm just scared someone will figure out the interface to the app, and pretty much create a free plugin for my server....making all my work pretty much worthless
leaden root
Why dont you include the license cost in the plugin?
zealous ibex
My plan was to give it away for free, but only for people who own the plugin. But in order for that to work, I need to verify purchases with epic, to give them access to the software
(so a user can log into my site, enter their epicgames id, purchase ID and whatever, and in return gets a free license file)
That way I could lock down the software, but not force plugin buyers to pay anything
delicate dove
<_< when you read more kind comments and ratings on your marketplace packs on a pirating website than on the actual marketplace
delicate dove
in this case the french fucks always ignore the dmca's because they are arseholes
zealous ibex
Bummer 😦
delicate dove
not much you can do about it hehe
zealous ibex
I quickly checked if my asset was cracked too, and found this Unreal Engine 4 Crack Full Version Free Download lol (thought it'd be funny to share)
delicate dove
i'd wish more people commented on the actual purchasable pack :p
ebon leaf
@shadow geyser XD glad it made you giggle haha!
@delicate dove yeah man... Piracy sites are great ego pickups lol... So many nice things said by pirates haha
delicate dove
which is the weird part haha
ebon leaf
No arguments here lol
dry gulch
to be fair, it's rather ballsy move to try and sell something with pirated assets
same as handing an open check to creator
ebon leaf
only if the game garners enough traction to be noticed AND the assets haven't been altered enough to be unrecognisable lol
dry gulch
well if you're gonna alter it, might aswell make your own then
it's not really illegal to use something as reference
ebon leaf
well it is if you illegally acquired said reference :p
leaden root
Using pirated assets as reference/learning material is still very much piracy
Most of the bp packs I get is just to learn from
ebon leaf
I think a good 50% of people buy them for that purpose, or at leas tintend to use them for that purpose anyways
fallen meteor
i want to make some 3d assets for marketplace, but i dont known what to do. Today unreal store have almost everything. I thinking about Foliage with bones, physics and animations [broken branches, physic grass, destructive trees]. But if you say someone buy this content for piracy, i need think twice or sell this for huge price.
wooden falcon
selling for a huge price won't help
it'll still get pirated :/ just ignore the pirating, it will happen no matter what...make the best product you can and price it reasonably
zealous ibex
^ there will still be a lot of people that buy it legitemately
And some pirates can be taken down by using the DMCA act
zealous kelp
especially for art assets as its easier to notice if its in a finished game
zealous ibex
Yup
stark zinc
How would you know whether an asset is a game is priated or purchased?
zealous ibex
Piracy is going to happen, no matter what, so just make the best you can and try to take them down
I think most people are legit customers tho 😃
delicate dove
if all the people going "wow amazing pack, thanks!" on piracy websites actually purchased my cavepack (some might have by now) I could buy a new kitchen
zealous ibex
lol, but that many people that pirate your pack? Sorry to hear 😦
wooden falcon
we need a commercial with sad kitties and sarah mclachlan music for Luos: "For the price of just one cup of coffee a day, you too can support a Luos" Have that kitchen in no time
delicate dove
ffs, no voronoi fracture tools for max 2017 that are free
wooden falcon
blender has some 😃
delicate dove
hmm found one where the old version works, but not the '15 one
gaunt flicker
Got Mike V as my asset reviewer, rejected due to folder structure, figures.
Is valid, am not following guidelines
Dont know if i want to make the change though
gaunt flicker
Epic willing to invite me to speak at events regarding my style guide, print books about the guide, and apparently at the same time reject the guide
Fun
Ill probably make the changes, heh
zealous ibex
lol, that's....wierd
leaden root
Marketplace is a whacky place yo
zealous ibex
^
stark zinc
It's not that surprising. A company is not one collective consciousness (aka overmind), it's a bunch of people, and it's not that uncommon, that a few people or even whole departments do some things differently than what the company "officialy" does. Still kinda funny 😄
gaunt flicker
According to the mp guidelines all custom bp nodes must be prefixed with the name Static
Regardless if they are static or not
/shrug
zealous ibex
wait really?
gaunt flicker
I bet if someome did that itd fail review
zealous ibex
Where does it state taht?
Oh wait nvm
You mean they have to be declared as staic functions? (not have a prefix like static_)
zealous ibex
Mind linking that? I kinda didn't do that myself either
gaunt flicker
And you shouldnt
zealous ibex
I'm pretty sure I read over the doc like a billion times
Still, please do give me the link
gaunt flicker
zealous ibex
Does that extend to code plugins (that expose a BPFL?)
zealous ibex
Hm
oak thistle
@gaunt flicker What do you think they mean by custom nodes though? When I first read that, I thought maybe they were talking about truly custom nodes implemented in C++.
gaunt flicker
I believe its meant for C++ as well
However
That still is insane
Its either basically saying every exposed bp function should be named StaticBlah or every function has to be Static
oak thistle
Hmm, actually in the new guidelines (that you linked), that comes under the Blueprint section.
gaunt flicker
Aye
oak thistle
But then they talk about plugins... 😉
gaunt flicker
Aye.....
oak thistle
Yeah, honestly that entire section makes no sense to me at all, whatever it's trying to relate to.
zealous ibex
I'll report back if they deny my plugin due to this bull$hit
gaunt flicker
They won't, because it has to go to code review
zealous ibex
(dun dun duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun)
gaunt flicker
And code review is way smarter than guideline review
If you followed that guideline I'd put money on the fact you'd fail code review
Unless your plugin is purely one big bpfl
oak thistle
Haha.
wicked pebble
Allar denied on style.. That's..
That's scary.
gaunt flicker
I also got hit with the PBR requirement for a material that is displayed on errors, because it was too pink
But that was awhile ago
It has been since accepted without change
S'all good, got a way I can fix this I think
wicked pebble
Let us know hehe
wooden falcon
we should all stick to unicorns and ducks, it's the safest bet
wicked pebble
Pf
wooden falcon
I'm going to decimate the unicorn mesh and remove all smoothing groups, then submit it as Stylized Low Poly Unicorn :/
instant approval
zealous ibex
😦 Nooooo
That sucks 😦 Did they give you a clear reason @carmine dove? It looked awesome
zealous ibex
Ah that's the first
carmine dove
its no different from the other packs Ive submitted and had accepted
my art method hasn't changed
carmine dove
Guess I'll put it on gumroad =/
zealous ibex
You can try selling it ongumroad and improving it to suit the guidelines + try resubmitting tho?
carmine dove
im not sure what they want
zealous ibex
Try mailing em back
carmine dove
everything snaps to the grid, it uses pbr, ive made material instances
zealous ibex
From what I heard their usually a lot more clear if you send an email asking them to elaborate
zealous ibex
It's worth trying tho?
carmine dove
"there are tutorials on how to make a door blueprint"
"this isnt a door blueprint..."
"there are tutorials"
zealous ibex
wtf....
zealous ibex
That's totally insane
carmine dove
yea in the end we just added it to the padlock we had on the marketplace already and upped the price by $5
but I dislike doing that, id rather have smaller cheaper packages than big expensive ones
this particular pack was 150 assets though
zealous ibex
The vents one or the door/padlock one?
zealous ibex
Man, it has to suck so bad that it got rejected 😦
carmine dove
sending an email now because I really hate the "nope" answer
I want a way to fix the problem and submit because I follow their guidelines to the letter
I might just submit again and hope to get another person reviewing it
zealous ibex
you only sent e screenshots or the assets too?
harsh coral
they must have specified a reason, no ?
zealous ibex
i used to see getting to the second stage as they may ask you to improve a few things, but your pretty much OK
carmine dove
nope, just a stock email
zealous ibex
But oh boi am I wrong
carmine dove
yea thats what I dislike
harsh coral
wow, that's heartless, and bad business
carmine dove
give me a chance
harsh coral
they want you to succed, to get their cut
carmine dove
it just has a huge list of things "it could be"
zealous ibex
Realky hope you can figure this out
carmine dove
it could be one of the following: stretched textures, bad quality, doesnt snap to the grid blablabla
and I know none of these are true
zealous ibex
😦
gaunt flicker
Who did you get as your reviewer Katie?
harsh coral
how hard is it for the review to type a few words ?
like "git gud", or just "your topology sucks"
ebon leaf
Mike V is in charge of all reviews, so all emails come from him afaik.
gaunt flicker
Hmm
harsh coral
Mike V be like Nope,Nope,Nope, today
ebon leaf
I know that even when I've had Ryan and others review my content, Mike is still the one emailing me. Same as Stephanie is always the one to email with 'your product is out!'
zealous ibex
Oh man, so worried about my plugin rn
carmine dove
I don't normally deal with the email side of things I just make it and pass it on to James to email them
zealous ibex
theres 1 bug in it that's mainly related to the engine, and I can't do anything about 😦 Really hope they don't kill me over it
carmine dove
im not sure if I should resubmit or what but Ive emailed them for now asking for more feedback so we can get it on the marketplace
zealous ibex
(It's a minor bug that you can easily mitigate)
ebon leaf
That does suck though @carmine dove ... there's not really anything like that on the marketplace already (unless I'm mistaken) so it seems pretty stupid they declined it
carmine dove
I checked and there isnt anything for vents =[
zealous ibex
Its got to do with how tasks are terminated (so one of my tasks won't abandon under curtain conditions)
ebon leaf
yeah... and vents are a pretty strong staple of gaming, particularly FPS which UE4 is most suited for lol
zealous ibex
^
gaunt flicker
carmine dove
yea thats why I worked on making sure you could go inside them and its player size friendly
=[
and that darn collision
ebon leaf
that might be the issue. Maybe they are disappointed there's no Bruce Willis included
😛
ebon leaf
I'd definitely keep pushing them to find out wtf is wrong. That's way too much work to just get a few sales on gumroad -.-
carmine dove
I mean we try our best to give customer support and stuff
worst case ill shove it into the pipe pack and up the price by 5$ again but id rather not
ebon leaf
tbh, I don't think marketplace presence means anythign to Epic -.- I'd be surprised if it factors in at all at this point based on what we've seen recently.
carmine dove
I was gonna charge 15$ for the vents
ebon leaf
you should consider raising it by $10 then, but then your issue becomes conveying to people that it has all that extra stuff in it too lol
carmine dove
I just dislike charging too much for a pack if its just background stuff
ebon leaf
You can change the packs name, but you don't want to change the URL of it (which you can keep even after a name change)
carmine dove
pipes are nice but they're not something you NEED for a game, its a background prop
whos going to pay 30$ for some pipes and vents?
ebon leaf
yeah having the two packs @ 15 is definitely a much more marketable scenario for sure
carmine dove
I guess the vents might be worth more because ive made them gameplay interactive
im sure lots of asset flip games making horror games would love it
;P
zealous ibex
I think my plan isn't 15 usd for most of my assets
Its quite cheap, but not so cheap it sounds like crap etc
is* lol autocorrected
ebon leaf
just keep on hassling epic for details. Even if you don't change anything, resubmit in a week. People have had things denied then approved without changes before lol
carmine dove
yea might as well try
ebon leaf
If you want, put it on gumroad in the meantime and make some money while you are dealing with their shit lol
carmine dove
yea
I just worry about gumroad in case I have made a mistake somewhere
I like to know epic have given it that seal of approval
if anyone buys it from gumroad please feel free to nudge me on here for improvements 😛
(or PM might be better)
ebon leaf
they don't check anythign except their stupid list of requirements. They don't do bug testing or anything (though they do let you know if they pop up during the course of their checks)
I have like 4 customers I've grown to trust that I use for testing my new packs, with the exchange of they get the pack for free on release lol.
carmine dove
I try to pride myself on customer service and fixing things 😛
mice
nice*
which packs are yours?
ebon leaf
them ones 😛
fwiw - and this goes to anyone making marketplace content - i'm always happy to take a look at things and try and break them if you want a tester 😛 Though I reserve the right to say no if I'm too busy or if the Quake Champions beta is running at the time 😛
zealous ibex
^
carmine dove
I often get comments saying nice things but they dont review it 😛
ebon leaf
the survival game template hasd one... very well 😛 the other ones, all I can really offer is that when I do support I actively ask people to rate it if they are happy with it. I also pride myself on a very high level of support so people are usually happy and do it haha.
carmine dove
ahhh, I might start asking too
James does a lot of support help and they always email us back saying we've done an amazing job, but no 5 star review =[
zealous ibex
I barely ever get support requests tho
ebon leaf
@zealous ibex make a full game template -.- you'll get plenty lol
carmine dove
haha
zealous ibex
LMAO
zealous ibex
that requires art tho, and I kinda lack all skills in that department
ill probably foccuss on cheap bp plugins
ebon leaf
haha there are a few higher up than mine... but I think mine is like the 5th highest rated or soething like that (excluding Epic's content obviously)
zealous ibex
(stuff like ssl, databases etc)
ebon leaf
generic shooter, super grid, quality settings menu and some others are higher up though
@zealous ibex that's again something I outsource to a customer 😛 though he offered and now we are working on projects together haha
zealous ibex
Lucky bastard, getting all those conneions
ebon leaf
my art in the first version of the survival game template was... white boxes with images on them drawn by my fiancee (who is an artist haha)
zealous ibex
connections*
ebon leaf
lol 😛 hey I put in lots of support hours to get them XD
ebon leaf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=518GFwrFblE here's the sick art in my original version of the template 😛
especially the beautiful inventory UI 😛 so bad XD
zealous ibex
Not too too bad
(My originals inventory look was worse)
But then I discovered the wonders of minimalistic design ^^
carmine dove
what asshole disliked that awesome video
zealous ibex
My video got a ton of hate
ebon leaf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltS28bl423M and that's the better version haha 😛 just in case someone is unaware and thinks that trailer is my trailer XD
haha @carmine dove I put it down to a combination of competitors for the asset, and survival games in general being what they are
I've had comments of people being like "wow, just what we need, for bad survival games to be even EASIER to make -.-" and shit like that
harsh coral
lol
zealous ibex
https://youtu.be/RGGCXZaj2TM So much hate 😢
ebon leaf
it has an apple and a burger in the thumbnail. How can anyone hate such a balanced asset?! XD
zealous ibex
Lmao
I need to create an updated trailer tho, this one doesn't show off the crafting features
ebon leaf
trailers take so long -.-
zealous ibex
Yup, I've been prostponing it forever
ebon leaf
that said, my most recent one I basically couldn't work out how best to demonstrate the product so I just decided "meh" and did a really dodgy thing and so far the reception has been very positive... so I guess the lesson is try less? XD
zealous ibex
^^
ebon leaf
33 XD
ebon leaf
lol i only have one 😛
zealous ibex
❤
ebon leaf
so thank you XD
zealous ibex
Liked your vid too 😃
delicate dove
boom, both have a like :p
ebon leaf
If we are on the like train... I'd love some on this one 😛 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BINNfawivqM
delicate dove
ello
carmine dove
donee
ebon leaf
thanks XD
carmine dove
I have a personal and professional account
harsh coral
humor is a great selling tool
ebon leaf
@harsh coral yeah people have been pretty positive on this one XD
zealous ibex
*good
ebon leaf
@zealous ibex haha thanks
carmine dove
guess ill take the evening off anyway, I was going to work so more but now im just annoyed 😛
ebon leaf
Yeah take a break and come back reenergised. Play a game or something.
harsh coral
almost the trailer is worth the 10$ for the laughs it gave me
ebon leaf
@harsh coral haha... that can be arranged XD
carmine dove
😛
wooden falcon
they always send a stock email on first rejection...if you email them for clarification, they'll tell you what they don't like
if they really didn't like it, they would never have asked for the project files, so it's probably something nitpicky
carmine dove
its not normally that way for me 😦
my other packs they just flat out said "change the collision"
wooden falcon
probably depends on the reviewer
I mean, Unicorn and Duck made it through...I can't even imagine what those emails were like
gaunt flicker
^submit -> accepted -> staged
carmine dove
either way Ill try again
wooden falcon
yah, don't give up
carmine dove
ill email first and just submit again if that doesnt work
and if that doesnt work ill add it to the pipe pack or something
ebon leaf
apparently either the duck or unicorn (cant remember which) was in review for most of a year going back and forth
ebon leaf
lol
still came out without meeting standards (which is my only issue with either asset lol)
harsh coral
maybe they approved when they saw author would not give up
or just to troll you guys
ebon leaf
haha
wooden falcon
I think there might have been some trolling
although, have you seen the pick of the duck in a horror setting? pretty creepy
harsh coral
i mean there's no end to the duck debate.. I'm not that upset by it
it's not like it will eat anyones profit
ebon leaf
i love that screenshot lol. I'd play the quack out of that game
wooden falcon
the controversy has probably helped his sales
fleet garnet
almost 3 months waiting for plugin review...
ebon leaf
I know plenty of people who have bought it just to stick it to the marketplace elitists 😛
@fleet garnet that is insane... have you hassled them recently about it?
wooden falcon
I'm going to have some tshirts made "I'm with Duck"
ebon leaf
Team Duck / Team Unicorn shirts XD
wooden falcon
hehe
harsh coral
i was almost one of those people when i saw how hard some picked on it, but luckily i didn't have any funds then
ebon leaf
@harsh coral same haha
fleet garnet
I will ask them next week what is happening
gaunt flicker
I bought the duck
ebon leaf
Allar approved, confirmed.
oh god Allar... next video you do please use the duck as the playable character and make duck noises.
gaunt flicker
I tried getting everyone to vote for it but then they removed the polls
carmine dove
I was gonna put the duck in our horror game as a toy
wooden falcon
it should be the end boss
ebon leaf
nah... get that donald trump model that has been doingf the rounds, have him riding the unicorn, and have the duck be his pet that he uses in special attacks. GOTY easy
harsh coral
duck could be like this generations dopefish in games
fleet garnet
Marketplace section has gone wild o_O
ebon leaf
this isn't on the marketplace afaik 😛
but I think you can buy it externally
yeah it's on turbosquid. Link in the video description. $99
carmine dove
that donald trump model is amazing
zealous ibex
😮 cool!
ebon leaf
ik foot plugin released same week as ik foot blueprint pack... seems like a poor move.
leaden root
6 code plugins, still no uworks or blue man
carmine dove
https://gum.co/Udhkgk on gumroad for now
ebon leaf
Yeah lol. That thing is going to print money... until Adobe pull all the mixamo content down soon lol
carmine dove
hmm
wicked pebble
UNAmedia, you are one smart motherf...
Instead of una media, you can buy two medias!
Anyone?
@rain oak I need some support here
changes name and runs away
rain oak
lol
wicked pebble
Jackie? Jackie who? Don't know her 😅
rain oak
wicked pebble
I still love that show
gaunt flicker
Aye, that retargeting plugin should have been released two years ago
Because dayum
wicked pebble
@gaunt flicker exactly my thought haha
carmine dove
I'm curious what to make for the marketplace this time after the rejection. Maybe I just need to make smaller packs so if they're rejected it's not a big deal
Maybe something cartoony and low poly
zealous ibex
They could think they already have too many packs 🤔. I personally love low-poly tho 😃
zealous ibex
I think those are usually quite popular, if you properly clean them up that is (so they aren't giagantic resource hoggers with a $hitty mesh)
carmine dove
If I ever make something crap let me know guys because I'm starting to think the vent pack wasn't as good as I thought it was :p
I won't be hurt I have thick skin
zealous ibex
I haven't used the meshes, but your video etc looked awesome
Easy to use + really good looking
carmine dove
And yea I know how to retopo photogrammetry stuff so it's an option
I mostly have rocks ATM which has been done 1000 timss
zealous ibex
Nice, I usually suck at cleaning them up 😛
(can't ever have enough rocks, but yeah, there are already a ton out there)
carmine dove
I use 3ds max it has a way to redraw the Polys on top
zealous ibex
Cool, I should check that out some day
carmine dove
It's easier than I thought I was terrified of retopo
It's a bit like a puzzle game at times
I have an idea, what if I make a scene instead to study with and then submit that?
harsh coral
good idea, still epic be like >NOPE.<
summer jacinth
Don't worry @carmine dove my spooky forest has been rejected 4 times and now they've just stopped responding to my emails about it
harsh coral
I really like the mood in that scene
carmine dove
I remember your forest and it was really darn good
:T
I kinda wish after I got 5 things on marketplace they might have a form of...
harsh coral
I bought a scene from gumroad to study
carmine dove
appreciation for the people that populate their marketplace
maybe im just getting a bit uppity
summer jacinth
I dont blame you
carmine dove
but ive I waste 3 weeks of my time making something so I can eat then to get rejected kinda screws me over
and I'm kinda confused where my quality must have dropped if all m y other packs get accepted 5 times over
summer jacinth
Yeah Ive been working on this for like a month and a half
And same here
Although Ive gone back and added a bunch of content, so hopefully it gets accepted now
carmine dove
I get that this isnt there main income stream and stuff but its a big deal to the smaller people using their platform
harsh coral
sometetimes it could be something unrelated like folder structure
summer jacinth
One of their reasons for my rejection was "wont add any value to the marketplace"
harsh coral
also, if you guys want to make a living from this dont be so tied to epic
carmine dove
Im curious do you think they rejected it because it opens to untitiled map by default
summer jacinth
And Ive asked them to give me a detailed description of the issues, but they never have
carmine dove
but if that was an issue tell me and ill fix it
harsh coral
sell it on unity, turbosquid, gumroad
summer jacinth
Adam sent me some pictures, but they were very minor things that I had fixed
carmine dove
turbosquid takes wayy to much of the money
gumroad is good but its hard getting any publicity there 😦
made two sales so far whilst I make one a day on unreal
As for unity have thought about it, im guessing the marketplace is saturated though? ill give it a shot
summer jacinth
I had one of the reasons for rejection being "errors on map start up", but those errors were because global planar reflections needed to be enabled in the project, but of course they didnt think of doing that. If I had it enabled by default then the customer wouldnt be able to "add to project" they would have to create a new project with it and migrate all content over
harsh coral
gumroad you have to pimp yourself, turbosquid is not bad long term
i'm still selling a texture i put up 7 years ago
if your in the uk you dont get taxed, you can get to 60% with squid
harsh coral
their cut is quite high, if you go exclusive and have made a few sales you can get to 70% and it's same as epic
zealous ibex
@carmine dove Just hit every marketplace you reasonably can
carmine dove
you got anything on unity?
zealous ibex
As you have art, your not dependant on ue4 folks, you can just sell it on nearly every engine
carmine dove
what are the sales like
zealous ibex
No 😦 I only code, so stuck to ue4
carmine dove
ah
zealous ibex
But I heard sales where great due to it's larger user base
carmine dove
but what worries me is there are like 50 vent packs on there or something
its gonna be hard to stand out of the crowd
harsh coral
at this point it doesnt cost you anything really
carmine dove
thats true theres no harm in doing it
summer jacinth
Im going to eventually move to using Unity as well
carmine dove
can you even get rejected from unity marketplace
summer jacinth
But there are things that really bug me with unity
zealous ibex
It may be possible, but I doubt your pack will
Anyway, as you don't have to pay an entrance fee, and you have the pack sitting around, it's worth a try 😃
(+ you could evaluate how well it does, and consider copying your other packs if it does well, to get a few more people buying 'em)
carmine dove
I think what bugged me the most is that they made me waste a day setting up all the screenshots and video
accept me and then ask for it so I dont waste an entire day preparing it for the marketplace
anyway sorry for ranting guys
zealous ibex
np, it's a really horrible situation
I'm still really scared my plugin'd get dennied, and I put so much effort into it
harsh coral
post that video and screens on unity 😛
zealous ibex
Like all the time I had available, working late nights till gone 12 😛 It'd all be wasted
harsh coral
never bet on one horse, esp if it's not your horse
carmine dove
have you had something rejected yet
harsh coral
ie dont rely on epic to make a living, you need to be able to get to a spot you're able to sell yourself
summer jacinth
@carmine dove Ive had nearly all my packs rejected at first
carmine dove
ah
zealous ibex
(working on a third one rn lol)
carmine dove
really?
zealous ibex
😦
carmine dove
what packs do you have up atm
everyone send me your marketplace pages im curious now 😛
zealous ibex
⭐ Marketplace Sellers ⭐
Shirk -> https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/Mackenzie%20Shirk
Katie -> https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/Blueprint%20Games
Apoisonedgift -> https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/Dapper%20Raptor%20Development
Luos -> https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/Luos
Celeste -> https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/Panda%20Studios
HowToCompute -> https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/HowToCompute
Necrophob30 -> https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/Jacob%20Bowers
Let's start a list!
ebon leaf
I am Umm, ruler of the raptors.
zealous ibex
I know it's you
ebon leaf
XD
zealous ibex
It's an awesome logo lol
ebon leaf
I shall pass your compliments on to teh artist (my fiancee :P)
zealous ibex
I got all the ones I can remember out of the top of my head, but if a mod could pin it + people could give me their links, we could possibly make this list a thing ^^ (until discord runs out of characters for me to use)
harsh coral
imo a gumroad list woulb be more valuable
ebon leaf
harsh coral
it's hard finding stuff on gumroad
ebon leaf
^^ sure is lol
harsh coral
i hate you cant click and see artists profile
have to manually fish for profile link
harsh coral
hm
ebon leaf
is my gumroad special or something? 😛
zealous ibex
Added @ebon leaf
ebon leaf
hmm maybe it's asetting
harsh coral
this is what I see, so i just google gumroad + artist name as I see it in the search list but it's not clickable there
ebon leaf
...thats so weird lol. I just checked it in opera, chrome, edge and IE and they all show it haha
regardless of logged in or not
carmine dove
ebon leaf
https://gumroad.com/apoisonedgift
https://dapperraptor.itch.io/
If we are adding external marketplaces to it 😛
zealous ibex
😛
stark zinc
I'm currently waiting on epic to give me a release date on my pack. When they email me, will the release date be immediate like "tomorrow" or rather several days into the future?
carmine dove
Usually I get a "yes your pack is fine here is your date"
Same email
And it's usually a week away
ebon leaf
That's not been how it has been done recently.
carmine dove
Ah
stark zinc
Ah, ok. A week is fine.
ebon leaf
They send a "your pack has been approved and is entering staging. We will contact you with a release date soon"
then you get 1-3 days notice -.-
zealous ibex
I had ~1 week
zealous ibex
How long does it take them to get back to you about plugin review?
(this waiting is killing me lol)
ebon leaf
thats only recently though. Before that - it was more like 1-2 weeks. But I got 2 days on my most recent, and someone else I know got 1 day lol
Blue Man is at 3 months for plugin review and counting... so... a long time
zealous ibex
Initial reply or just waiting?
stark zinc
I was just thinking when the best time is to release on gumroad. I don't want to release too early before it's on the marketplace. So if I get a mail from epic for the release date, knowing I have a few days I can then put it on gumroad like 3 days earlier.
ebon leaf
Code review I believe
carmine dove
Hm
stark zinc
hmm 1-2 days is a bit short
carmine dove
You can do a preorder on gumroad
ebon leaf
or that ^^
stark zinc
Can I make a preorder without a date?
zealous ibex
You can? 😮
stark zinc
Hmm, doesn't look like it. The first thing being asked is a release date
carmine dove
Not sure
ebon leaf
you can definitely prepare your product on gumroad and just not make it public yet. I have one there waiting
stark zinc
Basically I don't want to put it on gumroad several weeks before it gets on the marketplace. In my mind that seems to invite piracy.
ebon leaf
been waiting for about a month. Didn't ask for a release date
you just save it as a draft rather than publishing it
stark zinc
Yeah, that's not really an issue. I can put it up in a few minutes anyway. Just would like to know about 3 days before it gets on the marketplace 😃
ebon leaf
sadly, with the way epic are, you can't really even be sure you will know before it goes live lol
stark zinc
Maybe it's already live? 😛
ebon leaf
haha probably
stark zinc
That would be quite the trolling 😄
Hmm, does it help if I mail the marketplace team and inquire about an estimated date? Maybe they already have some schedule figured out.
ebon leaf
I tried that three times during my 6 week wait. Didn't get responses to any o fthem 😛 so give it a go but don't bank on it haha
ebon leaf
I can't speak to harder - possibly, but definitely longer and with less communication -.-
And them pulling out of the discord was a HUGE backwards step -.-
ebon leaf
yeah. That's how we all feel lately I think
carmine dove
And when you actually work hard on your products, work with your customers and listen to people it's frustrating to feel undervalued
ebon leaf
Yep. For sure.
carmine dove
Im curious because you see quite a few products slip through that clearly don't go by the standards they've set
zealous ibex
😦
ebon leaf
Yeah. Inconsistency is definitely the most annoying part of it all.
carmine dove
One I saw was non pbr with only 4 models or something
ebon leaf
Supposedly they were aware of that and attempting to rectify it.
carmine dove
That's good
I like how they don't allow people to do the same idea over and over again so we don't undercut one another but if someone hasn't updated the pack, has super poor reviews they kinda hog that spot?
If that makes sense
stark zinc
Oh, another question, while we're all here: 4.16 has been released now. Do I just email them a 4.16 version zip? Or do they add it, when the 4.15 version works for 4.16 without any modifications?
ebon leaf
if a pack is not updated, let them know - they usually tell the author they have to update it or it will be taken down.
@stark zinc if they haven't approved it yet don't worry. If the 4.15 files work under 4.16 you can just mark them as compatible in the seller backend. If you need to change something then you send them a separate 4.16 zip but no need until they are getting done with the review process or ask for it.
stark zinc
It's approved already, just waiting for date. And when it's released, it would be a shame if there is no 4.16 version. I just checked, I think I need to make a small update.
So, yeah, I'll email them a new one then.
ebon leaf
ah yeah just send them the zip for 4.16 then as well. They will get that sorted (in theory at least :P) before release lol
strangely enough, they've been processing updates VERY quickly the last week or two (like same day/next day sort of thing)
stark zinc
That's good to hear
ebon leaf
Definitely. It blew out to a couple of weeks or more for a bit there. Apparently they worked Jake super hard so they gave him some time off haha. Been much better since he got back though =)
wooden falcon
Since we're listing author's packs, here's mine: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/Jacob Bowers 😃
zealous ibex
⭐ Marketplace Sellers ⭐
Shirk -> https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/Mackenzie%20Shirk
Katie -> https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/Blueprint%20Games
Apoisonedgift -> https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/Dapper%20Raptor%20Development
Luos -> https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/Luos
Celeste -> https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/Panda%20Studios
HowToCompute -> https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/HowToCompute
Necrophob30 -> https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/Jacob%20Bowers
thanks HowToCompute!
zealous ibex
Updated list (I updated the earlier one too), @quaint cedar (or some other staff) mind pinning that?
stark zinc
Hmm, another question. Is there a way to get a different seller profile / profile name/url than the one used on the personal account? Create a new account?
zealous ibex
I think so
Not quite sure how you'd transfer the stuff etc, but your probably best off asking them at marketplacesupport@uneralengine.com (I think that's the right email)
They'll probably know the best procedure to get it sorted!
wooden falcon
zealous ibex
Yeah that, sorry
quaint cedar
Is it a good thing to pin that? Idk. It's not having all sellers and people can't enter themselves without you being available.
Maybe gather more names and put them into an open document. I could pin that then?
zealous ibex
^ that'd be better
Or we could add it to unrealbot 😛
Anyway, some idea for having a discord tag -> seller link list would be awesome 😃
harsh coral
I would be more interested in a "black" marketplace list - links to other marketplaces having epics rejects, assets in staging limbo etc, basically for ue friendly stuff that's not on the marketplace (for whatever reason)
stark zinc
Gumroad links?
stark zinc
If HowToCompute makes a doc, we can add those too.
wooden falcon
sounds like a good idea
carmine dove
I got this comment on my pack but I dont understand the question
"I'm a huge fan of modular stuff, very nice work. How does it handle switching model?"
anyone know what he's trying to ask o0
gaunt flicker
@quartz acorn https://www.gumtree.com/p/video-games/unreal-engine-4-old-projects-assets-blueprints-models-textures-audio/1243237545
Someone may or may not be reselling SuperGrid unintentionally
neat widget
Aye took it off the Promo FB group for now messaged him to clarify. Did not notice it at first =/
summer jacinth
I wonder who would buy someones old files?
ebon leaf
It's the super grid demo I think but yeah... I wondered how much other mp content was in there lol
zealous ibex
For who who haven the read it yet, this post gives some excellent tips on selling/marketing 😃 https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?145931-A-guide-to-selling-more
ebon leaf
https://youtu.be/VWTBO4UyFtE
Would you like to see this on marketplace? 😃
ebon leaf
looks cool but there are already a lot of minimaps on the marketplace, so just be aware that you may run into issues with that 😃 worth a shot though eithe rway
gaunt flicker
Reading thread about something relevant to what I do
Has link to mp asset
Read my name in mp asset comments
the fuck
ebon leaf
don't quite follow but okay 😛
gaunt flicker
Basically, stumbled upon an asset where someone commenting comparing the assets support to my support
ebon leaf
ah lol. Were they commenting favorably? 😛
gaunt flicker
Yeah, but I'd rather they didn't
they basically said if I can support GS the way I do, this guy can support his asset the way he does
And I'm barely holding on with my support
People need to understand mp asset support can be a nightmare
ebon leaf
lol yeah... it sure can.
gaunt flicker
Just like Epic supporting sellers is probably a nightmare
ebon leaf
New rule: Everyone needs to make a game template and deal with the support for a month before they are allowed to comment XD
I've not had the sales you have (though I have done well enough)... I can definitely empathise though. So many silly support tickets and shit for my own template lol
gaunt flicker
The majority of my sales are deep discounted sales
And launch sales
Launch day sales still make up the majority of my sales...
...almost two years later...
gaunt flicker
vocal minority
er
I guess, vocal minority of community, vocal majority of my customer base
¯_(ツ)_/¯
ebon leaf
haha I get what you mean.
must be time for Generic Shooter 2 😛
GS2: Even More Generic
ebon leaf
haha XD pretty much GOTY in an asset
gaunt flicker
500% more shit anims
grim canyon
Haven't seen a good VoIP plugin yet.
tame ruin
any ideas on when the next event sale will be happening?
ebon leaf
haven't heard anything, I wouldn't expect one anytime soon.
quaint cedar
Don't forget the awesome sounds @gaunt flicker
zealous kelp
them sounds are the highlight
lucid horizon
Is it just me or does the marketplace forum seem pretty dead at the moment, all the recent release topics have a few hundred views and a handful of comments at best
carmine dove
Mm I stopped using it because it always seemed quiet
silver moat
I think most of us just don't have much inspiration left these days to engage and build a great audience.
lucid horizon
Fair points
wooden falcon
there are always so many threads, they disappear off the 1st page quickly
and after that, who has time to click on other pages 😃
quick geyser
There was in the marketplace a system where an A.I is attacking you at your location?
Someone knows
wicked pebble
The AI Behavior Toolkit?
zealous ibex
Man, the marketplace sure takes its sweet time to tell you about wether or not they like your plugin lol
zealous ibex
LMAO
lean venture
Thursday ends the 5th week since I've sent mine
It does have quite a few lines though...
silver moat
Just because someone's sitting there to review your plugins it doesn't mean someone's sitting there to review your plugins.
Bet you never looked at it from that perspective :p
gaunt flicker
summer jacinth
Does anyone who own that get really, really low fps?
I have a 1070 and Im getting less than 20fps
silver moat
Hey all
Prepare to buy whether you need it or not: https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?146303-Pixel-Perfect-Polygon-s-*PHASE-2*-SALE-starts-on-June-1st!
zealous ibex
Awesome 😮
silver moat
Meh and le friend.
real dust
Cewl! I bought them a while back, quite like 'em
I might also actually get the Military pack
wooden falcon
lol
real dust
;3
wooden falcon
ugh, head colds suck
wicked pebble
Viruses are worse 😭
Especially when you get better and then one of your family members gets sick, and passes it on to you.. endless cycle..
wooden falcon
yah, basically what's happening...my 1 year old brings a bug back from daycare, I get it, then my 4 year old gets it, my wife gets it, some of us get better, then we get sick again
real dust
@celest marsh YOu need to send them tax forms as a seller so they can handle taxes and verify you're a person
celest marsh
oh really so its like selling through them and not directly from me ? @real dust are they taking care of that ?
real dust
YOu still need to take care of your own taxes
But I think they need 'receits' or something
Not 100% sure
But it's that kind of stuff
lone mountain
@celest marsh Well
If you're in the US
I'm like 99.999% sure they will need to send out tax forms out to the sellers so we can do our taxes
something like a 1099-MISC
lone mountain
No idea outside the US though
celest marsh
so its like we have nothing in common
lone mountain
?
You are doing business in the USA
lol
Of course you have something in common
real dust
They still need your tax forms for their business stuff
celest marsh
its not just in US
lone mountain
Same as going through Steam/Valve
celest marsh
but through them
real dust
They're making money too, and paying you
celest marsh
so it counts as them selling it ?
celest marsh
Oh I see
celest marsh
so they are selling my content and im going through them
real dust
Yeah
celest marsh
that might make things easier 😛
lone mountain
Yes
lone mountain
And give you your cut
real dust
With all their cash
Then they pay you your cut
You don't actually get paid out of the earnings
You get paid out of Epic's bank
real dust
Which also has the earnings from all sellers on it
lone mountain
I would be astonished if no one's ever asked this before
hmm
They actually do need to update their FAQ
celest marsh
yep they just tell to keep updating and check for quallity
lone mountain
But yeah, however you all do taxes in your country
marketplace is a source of income
celest marsh
so by forms they dont mean the piece of paper i fill and carry to tax office ? 😛
lone mountain
so you would include that as a source of income in your taxes
celest marsh
because its local thing and they wouldnt not have any use of it anyway
lone mountain
I'm surprised there aren't more non-US MPers chiming up
pretty sure they make up a good bit of the MP
celest marsh
oh i actually got one on skype
bothered him recently about marketplace
i guess ill do that again
eu based
but ye they made a list on what to preper
but what exactly do they mean , who knows 😛
ok got answer
they don't need anything like that if I'm outside of US
harsh coral
no they don't need anything extra from you, but they tax you 30%
if you're in a country like uk and you provide papers then you get that to 0%
some countries have a tax treaty with the us
harsh coral
in my case i get 20% of listed price when all is said and done
(after my taxes also)
stark zinc
@harsh coral, when setting up my profile for the marketplace, I was looking for somewhere to provide them my EIN, so they don't keep the 30% US income tax, but I couldn't find anything. Did you just email them the info?
real dust
Don't they just give you some forms to fill in for tax forms?
harsh coral
i never went for ein bacause our country does not have any treaty with the us
stark zinc
Hmm, k
harsh coral
i assume you need to get that from your tax office
stark zinc
I've got one, epic just doesn't provide any way in the marketplace profile to supply one. I'll mail them and ask.
harsh coral
i really wish eu would solve this
don't know how other members have their work policies made but here you cant just get paid out of the blue
you need to be self employed, which costs you 400-500€ monthly
or if you already have a regular job, you can get part time self employed for 150€ month
if you want to be legally selling stuff online .. either your own website or third party marketplace
stark zinc
Wow, that's a lot. Here it was like 50€ for the registration to get self employed. That's it.
harsh coral
but 3rd party markteplaces make it even worse because of the double taxation
for 50€ i'd be self employed happily
they tax your income at the end of the year anyway
carmine dove
Update to the people who knew about this but marketplace have got back to me with some real feedback so I can now improve my pack and hopefully get it up 😃
stark zinc
@harsh coral and anyone else interested in this. I got a reply from the marketplace team after about 1 hour already: "As an international seller, any funds you earn through Marketplace sales will be paid to you via Epic Games International, S.à r.l. and will not incur any US taxes."
Epic Games International, S.à r.l. is a company in Luxembourg, not the US.
stark zinc
Oh @carmine dove, that's nice to hear! 😃
gloomy bramble
is there any melee animations on the mp?
real dust
There definitely is
Not going to look for them atm, but I'm certain that I've seen them
@gloomy bramble
delicate dove
some can be re-iterated but yea, some more variety be nice
celest marsh
@harsh coral same here its like 250$ a month to be able to do something legally , sell or anything. Would be free if you were employed, but only if your agreement does not forbid it
and it usually does
fickle arch
http://puu.sh/w5WYr/58906c9138.jpg anyone know whats the best one?
or should i just find a way to code it myself
lone mountain
@fickle arch Why waste anymore time?
I would look at the reviews, if any, then looks at their videos, if any, and make the choice.
Look at their threads
gaunt flicker
Don't buy any of them
Make a new one
Sell it yourself
That way the next person who needs one will do the same
And so on
elfin plinth
@fickle arch I'd also read reviews from the other assets that the same people made
it tells much if they've done a sloppy job on other assets
also, is the foot IK really that difficult that you need to buy an asset for it?
I thought UE4 handled that with small effort on your part
zealous kelp
theres even an example project on the forums for foot IK it an old engine version and its messy but it works pretty well on most angles......
neat cargo
Well people be interested of I sell a voxel terrain generator in marketplace
summer jacinth
If it works well I imagine people will like it
real dust
^
ebon leaf
Yeah if it works well, especially in multiplayer, people will be very into that tbh
There was a voxel terrain demo video that went around for a very Minecraft looking generator and that got crazy interest.
neat cargo
I thought devising the chunk generation algorithm would be the only ordeal.....
Now multiplayer logics will make my brain implode from the inside
ebon leaf
haha I wouldn't say it's vital, but it definitely will increase your market
neat cargo
Yeah, thanks for the idea 😛 I didn't realise its importance before...
ebon leaf
looks v. cool
neat cargo
thx dude
harsh coral
are you planning just for landscape generation ?
hoary ferry
so this might be a stupid question, but I dont exactly know how this works in the market place.
I'm working on a character creation/customization system for the market place, am I allowed to add some idle animations I bought on the market place? or do I have to create them myself?
real dust
Anything you buy on the marketplace you can use commercially, but you're not allowed to resell source assets
So no, you're not allowed to include those animations in your own marketplace pack
hoary ferry
alright, thanks for answering! 😃
hoary ferry
true, but they still take a while to make 😛
lone mountain
?
Not really. And I am not an animator by trade.
(idle)
Anyway, it was just strange you wouldn't do all your animations yourself in your own MP package.
hoary ferry
high quality animation takes a long time to make. (Im trained by dreamworks animators)
And I can do my own animation, but I want this package out asap. so I have to save time where I can 😃
lone mountain
K
gaunt flicker
Fuck animation
I hate the whole animation section of game dev
Easily eats up the most everything
lone mountain
LOL
hoary ferry
animation.... I hate it..... and i love it -_-
lone mountain
Someone buy my raw MoCap anims
wooden falcon
hmm...next project idea, motion capture animations of me watching tv on the couch for hours
wicked pebble
I'm sure someone will be interested in it.
neat cargo
@harsh coral foliages and npcs are parts of my plan 😃
harsh coral
what about terrain modification at runtime ?