#fab
1 messages ยท Page 59 of 1
but yeah, good response would be to explain that pack contains what was advertised and ask the person to contact the seller to solve the issue
now what I see is that seller is just bashing the customer
even if the customer got his issue resolved after writing the frustrated message, he/she'll sure not change the 1 star review after seller treats him/her like that
also, seller shouldn't take things this personal, if seller is too proud to reach out for the customer who's struggling with the asset he/she bought (with real money, mind you), things like these will remain unsolved in the future too
btw, the person who sent that frustrated review isn't just an account created to make fake reviews, same nickname has been posting on the forums too
I wasn't speaking about this specific issue, rather in general.
that would apply in general case too, just drop a note to the customer so things get solved
even if the customer doesn't reply back, it shows on the review that seller cared enough to try to reach out for the person
I disagree... the seller reacted appropriately...
There are some people recently dropping low ratings /fake reviews on my and other people's products. Please don't pay any attention to such fake reviews.
so, that's helping the customer in what way?
It might be fake because if the person had any skill they would know what was included... plus...
The dude was not seeking resolution...
well, we have to remember that we have users here that might not know a thing about game engines
He was bashing
doesn't matter, he was frustrated
I'm not saying the customer acted appropriately
I'm just saying responding with disrespect will not solve these kinds of issues now or in the future
Anyway, don't want to go around in circles....
I simply disagree with you... and, that's cool.
@ebon leaf Well it is nice to know you finally woke up!
Im with @silver moat on this.
https://www.cgstud.io/3d-model/duck-cartoon-character-30088 now, thats a duck
To let buyers know that's a fake comment and I'm not ripping them off is not disrespect towards anyone.
That was actually disrespect towards the seller, in this case me, by saying I have not included what I'm advertising which means I'm trying to rip people off. And that's not the first time. Some time before that someone else was yelling in public my products aren't game ready and run at 10FPS, I tried so hard to help him but he constantly ignored my responses and continued spreading lies and insults. So I've had enough cases like this to know what's going on with people posting such comments. If there was 0.1% change he was frustrated he'd have entered the Support Thread instead of posting a comment and then never coming back to check if there's been any replies on his comment.
Sad fact is, if you disrespect anyone on the forums you either get banned, warned or something. But a seller is expected to tolerate such things forever.
If you have trouble playing Paragon and go on the forums insulting Epic not only they'd stop you but they'll have you leave that place and go to the proper place for support. Sadly, that's not the case when someone insults sellers at all.
Also, commenting section is for asking questions, leaving suggestions and generally anything but a place to try and scare others off. It's not.
Sadly, many do the mistake of thinking "Someone trying to ruin your public image and scare people off" is considered free flow of information. But it's not. We have support threads for a reason.
now that's a duck: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/demon-warrior
heh
hmm, thats actual photogrammetry of my ex gf
wonder how he got her to model for him
lol
i get a re-captcha thing in the checkout phase of the launcher and it says i have to use a supported browser ๐ฆ
i dunno why there's a third party involved in these transactions to fuck things up
shouldnt paypal paysafecard etc have a more direct option
@harsh coral weird... I wonder when that was implemented, because we still definitely get fraudulent purchases lol... What browser were you using?
i was trying to buy from the launcher
since it's not a launcher and the third party has a check now it's no go
what payment method? Paypal?
a couple of months back there was another issue
i was trying to pay with paysafecard
still am
@proven lily Might be worth noting the point above that @harsh coral has made and passing onto the UX team or whoever is responsible - using the launcher, it's possible to get a recaptcha during checkout that does not says the launcher is not a supported browser lol
@harsh coral I guess your alternative atm is to go via the marketplace in a supported browser. Somewhat ridiculous that you need to exit Epic's framework to purchase from epic's store though lol
i'm waiting for the processing of payment.. is this a joke?
"We are processing your payment. It may take up to 20 minutes for it to appear on your account. Thank you for your patience."
Is that paysafecard giving you that message or the UE4 marketplace?
the third party that sits between ue4 and paysafecard
it's pretty wide spread at least here in europe and i didnt have any issues like that over the years that i used the service
i doubt Epic can do much except work with paysafecard directly if possible or change the middle man
Yeah that's pretty annoying though.
Hey @harsh coral, can you send a ticket in to marketplace-support@unrealengine.com detailing what you've experienced here so we can get a better idea of whats going on?
Adam Davis i already did so in the past..
Can you PM me what email you used? I'll be happy to look this up so we can get eyes on it
The issue is that Xsolla is having trouble processing payments often
the error i often get is "The transactions is not possible at this moment" .. or something close to that
and i saw other people complaining about the same thing
have you contacted Xsolla about this?
Yes i have, and they didn't even acknowledge any issues and told me to contact you ๐
a few days later it worked
/facepalm
so guess maybe i'll try tomorrow ?
Can you pm me your email address so we can look this up and look further into what may be occurring?
Is the information here correct regarding the dimensions of the featured image? 894px by 488px? http://help.epicgames.com/customer/en/portal/articles/2592186-marketplace-submission-guidelines-preparing-your-assets#Submission Process
The currently featured images seem to be cut off at the top. Seems like the actual size is 640px by 288px, which is a different aspect ratio. https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace
Preparing Your Assets Submission Requirements Particle Effects Animations Blueprints Meshes Materials T...
The inormation available is correct... but epic use the images in multiple situations, some of which those dimensions do not entirely match -.- Unfortunately, based on the responses myself and some other creators have got, there's no way around this other than to alter your featured image to make sure that the text and such fits into these multi-use scenarios. It's... kinda stupid
Ah, ok. That's good to know. Thanks.
I guess I'll just design my featured image to still look good when cut off.
Pretty much the only way around it yeah.
...pation!
consti?
resig...
as seen in Abatron: https://twitter.com/AbatronGame/status/852211045699657735
luos's 4 more elements :p
2: What is the ship used for besides a devastating attack? Retweet, follow us and @ProjectMQ for a chance to win a Steam key! #UE4 #gamedev https://t.co/Ti9Uvv7eBt
If Im using the Epic Games launcher looking at marketplace, is there a way for me to copy a link to an item so I can paste it to someone? I only see Facebook and Twitter share links, not a direct copy store link
I dont accidentally want to post to Twitter, and I dont have a facebook.
yeah copy url +1
no new content today?
yeah my new Backface Cull texture pack is online now ! only ยฃ49.99
@honest bobcat click the twitter button, then copy paste the link
Hey @wooden falcon we are currently working on the new released content. There's been some delays on the backend but it should be ready before the end of day today, at latest in the morning tomorrow
thx for the info!
I wonder how many submissions the marketplace team gets that are just: https://i.gyazo.com/77c913a9284124e8feb84d745954ff95.png
its a cycle. i offer a material export plugin ๐
cant you just get the assest file from the folder?
I don't think there is a way to export that material so it could be approved by the marketplace team ๐
can't you just upload the .uasset file????
he's just a newb and didnt even check out the submission guidelines hehe
yeah but why wouldnt they let you do that?????
because you need to send the entire project, and it doesnt hit any of the requirements
so you'd have to have the materials as some kinda "bonus" I guess
no, you need a minimum amount of materials, and even then if its something as basic as this I doubt they'd allow it
can you use a different site than the marketplace to sell it?
yea you could, but anybody who'd want to pay for this instance.. needs to see a doctor hehe
but yea, if it was an awesome high end material pack, it could sell
you haven't seen my mats yet.
"that fire texture looks like one of the first hits on google probably because it comes standard with Unreal" ๐
yea hehe, no comment there
Also not sure what happened to his image, I don't see it on the Answerhub question. They must have removed it after your criticism lol
he did, was up a few min ago
Get 404'd son
How can I buy your damn cave meshes now?! ๐
odd though, i can change his name, profile, and email, yet I cant send the guy a pm
Never link to your vault link
wtf, I updated that a few days ago
Welp guess I aint buying any caves, bloody 404
making it worse, youtube also killed the link
I'm gonna go buy some OTHER cave pack now. Jeez ๐
Same to be honest, I'm in a hurry. smh...
too late sorry sir. I '
haha
goddamnit ๐
I'm gonan buy this one and dev like it's 1999 https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/13929
O_o i can change this: https://i.gyazo.com/b04cbf9d2c084a71816139742e34ba1e.png for every person on answerhub
dafuq
lol
Y AM I GETTING ALL THE EMAILS?! hehe
Don't get carried away ๐
i wouldnt
Go find questions about people complaining about AH spam, and check all the boxes
Oh btw - unrelated to this above... something that seems to be popping up now that we have a little more control over our packs - people are changing their Public Seller Name a bit now (guessing people didn't realise it was possible until they checked changing product details)... Just a note - if you do that, ALL your packs will nolonger link to your seller page anymore, because the links do not update automatically so you ened to annoy @proven lily to get this fixed ๐ I've seen a couple of sellers who have changed their names and now you can't see what else they've made lol
I changed mine a week or two ago... but I always check everything as soon as I change things so I knew straight away haha ๐
You can add social media stuff now too?
yeah
i do find it a bit odd you can change seller name so easy
complain about seller X, seller X changes name to Seller Y, crisis avoided. hehe
@delicate dove lol yeah... should probably be a limit on that
It's not much good anyways... cause if you change your name it stays the same on the product pages ๐ that's the issue I'm talking about. Your seller page will changes from "Con Artist Chump" to "Dodgy Dev Guy" but on your product "Legit Scam Pack" it'll still say "Con Artist Chump" as the author, and link toa 404 lol
haha
ponders how he's so good at coming up with "dodgy names"........... lots of practice?
lmao
if he wants he can do it, but I did suggest to get something he could use as a base instead of buying something he wouldnt use.
nice reaction, I guess you've helped him with something
oh he asked me for the smoke used in my latest package, but its base is just the regular ue4 smoke. would feel wrong to tell him to buy the pack or sell the smoke if its identical
depends whom you ask ๐
hehe
I'll sell him the default UE4 smoke
Hey, I'm thinking about releasing a pack (more than the default ue4 smoke ๐ ) and I was wondering is just posting on the forums the best way to gauge wether it's worth it? And if it is, base the price on community recommendations?
currently generic smoke is so hot, id replace all materials with the smoke
and yea, thats a good idea, though dont undrsell yourself
best way to gauge pricing is to look at similar items on the marketplace
and then undercut them!
j/k
I was thinking of making a cave set with smoke
As in
A mystical setting where everything is made of a thing veil of smoke
And if you walk into them the smoke puffs up
Sure, we can go with that ^^
And it's all just imagination?
Like, dark purple/blue/black smoke
With stars all around you
Wherever you look
I'm working on a complete landscape pack, but the prices seem to vary so much on the MP
It really depends on the quality tbh
Yeah, still working on the ocean one
So the idea of the pack is it's kind of everything needed to get a landscape set up fast. Auto material with the ability to paint. Ocean and lake shader, with rocks, trees, grass and foliage
All using photogrammetry
Can I see a shot without PP?
Sure, I'll just load it up
There is PP, I was just playing around with it mostly trying things out
xD
I'm still really new to adjusting things in post, and lighting and stuff
Just the PP disabled, lights left the same
Those rocks are done with photogrammetry?
The ocean has detail in the water, but right now the normal and tessellation are tied together, so they both fade to 0 over distance
No, rocks are temp
Phew
Only the landscape textures and foliage (- trees) are
No, i think that's the shadows being weird
Well, then I guess so ^^
Enhance
It is
Hadn't noticed because I had the PP on all the time
There's an issue with the grass
Being the fact that you're using tiny planes
You want your grass to probably cover more distance
So it looks more dense
Can you put a mannequin in there for scale?
Also, you're not allowed to resell speedtree stuff afaik
That's already better
Yeah I had it turned down to make sure it still worked
Because some grass looks bad if you turn the density down
I'll have to install the third person pack to get the mannequin
You can dwfinitwly scale the grass up a bit
That's way better
Cool, cheers
I'll take almost jealous, that's good enough for me ๐
Nevermind
I am jealous
Except now I notice the poor lighting on the fern
Actually
Just up your skylight a bit
@pure kernel
The bush on the left? or the little fern in the grass to the right?
Ocean has a bit more detail now in the distance also
That's good
And on the topic of that bush*
As I said, try to up the skylight
Because it's just that your shadows are really dark
That's actually something wrong with the bush itself, It's on the list to be rebuilt
It's just built with planes at the moment, would be nice to give it some real depth.
It's tiger striped for some reason, looks really wierd
So many things on the todo list ^^
So do you think it's a viable pack having basically everything in it, or is it too much? I've noticed that most packs try to focus on 1 part
Well
Odds are you won't do everything perfectly
But it's mainly just\
If the price is right and it looks decent people will likely go for it
Makes sense, now just to find that price ๐
Guys, I currently have an approved pack waiting for a date to release, usually how much time does it take from approval to getting a launch date?
@shy phoenix Depends on queue i think.
it can be pretty quick
My last which released a couple of weeks ago - it was ~2 weeks from approval to getting a release date, and it released 3 days later XD
That said... I just had a pack approved for the marketplace in less than 48 hours so... looks like things are a little more well oiled atm ๐
It is that fast now? My first pack took like 3 months from submission to release
The last one wasn't (a few weeks ago). But... There's no blueprint packs on the marketplace in the recent content drop. Wondering if they are short in that category haha
When was the marketplace search updated?
It's been updated several times. THe most recent update seems to have been a stealth drop in the last week or so though not many of us are refreshing every few hours to check ๐
๐ฎ
most of the updates have been announced in the forums, though I dunno if the threads are still there now
Hmm they've rejected a blueprint submission of mine that took me over 100 hours not that long ago. I doubt they're short in that category :S
just dont make any wires overlap :p
they didn't even want to see the blueprints ๐
O_o what did the bp's do? and how well did you lay them out?
Yea, what was that BP?
hmmm yeah... Care to share what that was at all? That's nuts =/
hmmm thinking about extending it at some point and trying to resubmitting it if that's even allowed so I don't want to share that atm
You're always allowed to resubmit. So good idea on keeping it quiet haha XD
It's a duck generator, and yes always allowed to resubmit
It's perfect
Might be worth to mention that it has some art part on it. I am definitely no artist, I liked the result but it took me clearly longer than it would've took an artist
Are the community picks announced?
I was rooting for duck :(
those were some interesting looking packs, though I'm a little surprised able got voted so much
im suprised there isnt a drone pack by now
just get your entire team and friends to vote for it and you can almost be certain it'll be a top pick
team? who the hell has a team ๐
some people work at an office :p
Office? You mean that chair next to my bed?
Anyone notice that replies are broken on the marketplace comments?
I cant reply to any comment that has replied to another
Hey everyone,
The marketplace team is hard at work on a number of upgrades and improvements to the Marketplace. Because of this, we really need to put our heads down and keep focused on the goals we have here at Epic. As such, we will no longer be available for marketplace business through Discord, or any unofficial channel. You can still reach us if you have specific needs by emailing marketplace-support@unrealengine.com or by posting in the Marketplace forums, but we will no longer be available here. If you have any questions, please feel free to send me a private message on the forums or email marketplace-support@unrealengine.com.
Thank. You.
well, sad to see you guys go ๐ฆ but you've been awesome while you were here
yea, ragardless of the occasional banter/complaining/whining from me/us we did appreciate having the marketplace team here.
I do hope that in the future you peeps will return to this chat.
oh, already gone O_o
...Can someone create an Adam bot who can respond to all of us complaining?! ๐ข
well, mike is still around. but lets just stare at him from a distance, and hopefully not startle him
Hm
just go to the lounge -- complaints all day -- same/same.
so, upgrade and improvement is to reduce communication - sounds logical ๐
I'm guessing this is too public place to discuss the potential issues
I think it makes a lot more sense to be honest. It was ridiculous that for most of the last year, you had a much better chance of getting a response by going through an unofficial channel that probably most sellers didn't even know existed.
Remains to be seen whether communication via the official channels will improve of course.
Having multiple sources to communicate through also removes efficiency, but this unofficial area is one of the most filled channels with people though.
It's easy to use and active
The official channels aren't
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
The ratio of issues people have helped me solve here to the amount of issues people have helped me solve on official channels is NaN
Because nobody ever helped me on any of the official channels
So I moved here ๐
And, ya know
Discord is open on my PC anyway
The UE4 forums and the like aren't
This is something I can look at quickly
I'm not comparing to Answer Hub or forums really. More just when you have a specific question to the marketplace team as a seller, it makes sense that it should go through marketplace email or Creator's Hub.
Although the latter has proved essentially pointless so far in truth.
Yeah, that I agree on
Shelling System just released - let me know what you think :3 https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?142385-Shelling-System-for-Level-Design-and-Arch-Viz
^ Worth it ^
My #UE4 Marketplace projects are on SALE! (: Lobby: https://t.co/3HSkUSSbk7 Crafting: https://t.co/4WFT4N2STs #gamedev #indiedev
hmm, ue4 forums are fugly now
wonder what prompted the Epic exodus from discord?
was it your doing @delicate dove ?
@wooden falcon You might be in mobile mode on the forum
Happend to me to, look down the bottom
k, clicked on Full Site and it's back to normal
thanks abxyxx!
I thought I was damned to look at that horrible thing for eternity
I dont even wanna say how long I was using the forums like that
big sales on the Unity store this week
@quaint cedar great job!
@turbid echo Ty (:
@wooden falcon nah wasnt me, it might have been a sum of things though.
I think with the few people in their team, they might have re-evaluated what would be best for their workflows.
What marketplace asset has the grenade throwing etc in it?
There are several... do you mean on a mechanical level or animations?
oh... i remember that but nfi what it was lol
or any with the anims lol
lol i can't find the ones I've seen before... damn marketplace search is awful :p
^
I would like to know who actually review the marketplace content because there is people selling cars plugins etc with models not made by they that actually say in big SCANIA etc
Or at least they spot in the images models with that and the brand Name/Logo of an actually vehicles company
The marketplace would review the plugin, not the example project
Cause the example project is always linked externally
Thats what I would assume
As second part
the link the guy give in the marketplace
for the example project come with the actual sources of the marketplace content
so double win GG
There is no demo but the whole content folder etc excluded the source code for the plugin
Featuring files like VH_DodgeCharger, VH_M1_Abrams, VH_Scania164L pure gold
Epic is legally not responsible for the example project so they dont care
yeah well the example project is a different topic for sure
I wouldnt use those branded vehicles in a commercial game, not worth the risk
Yeah but there is people that buy the marketplace content after read the EULA and expect all the included content is legal to use
since don't say otherwise
afaik there are Restrictions on Trademarks etc. "The content must not use any trademarks/logos/brands that you do not own."
you mean an image?
Sorry, i uploaded an Asset to TurboSquid
Can i upload it to UE market too?
How can i sell it?
they don't usually accept single item packs...you have to have at least 5 different items
unless it's a rigged character model
but yah, you can apply to get it on the UE Marketplace, even if you have it in another
oh, where do you recomend to sell unique assets?
hmm...not sure...turbosquid? ๐
is the only place where i upload haha
you can do gumroad too, but you have to do all of your own promotoion
unity
they probably have rules on how much has to be in a pack too, though (Unity that is)
thanks necro, i think i will work in 5 more Tomahawks to apply in Marketplace, i think they can be used in survival games or something
np, good luck
lol
๐
@vague breach Do u joined Squid Guild?
Not for now, do you recomend? @tiny stag
Im not Diamond and they dont offer something "great" for normal sellers haha
Well, if u will join it. You will not be able to publish product on other markets
By joining it u say that any product is exclusivelly sells there
That why i ask, i think u can publish to unreal
benefit is that u get 50% not 40%
by joining
i think that for 10% is better going with other markets and not only TurboS
๐
Heh, the shape of that axe head wouldn't actually work ;)
I miss the staff. They're not hear to hear me complaining anymore.. They're not here to ignore me anymore... What do we talk about now....
Hmmm...
Mp?
Hmm, so there's a post by Adam on the MP forum about featured updates. It's marked as 10 days old, but I only just saw it and it has very few views, so I guess actually it only just appeared?
Or did I miss some previous discussion on this?
Restricting new featured to only 3 assets seems to be pretty much going in the opposite direction to the bulk of feedback I've seen, which is to share exposure as much as possible.
Oh, and apparently they used to feature stuff on seller request?!
yeah wtf... that post seems bonkers.
no more community interest poll is a good move though at least
that said... new content doesn't really seem to get boosted on it's featured days so I don't think it matters much for the new stuff. And it sounds like older stuff is going to be highlighted more so... it might be good shrugs
Yeah agreed community interest was bad.
Thank god community interest is gone
However I can't agree on their reasoning for changing featuring
Sort and Search updates were the basic ones and not that everyone requested. Dunno how current updates will actually help with discoverability. But still okay I guess, not something inherently bad
Agreed. I don't think this is a good move... but I don't think it's necessarily much worse than it was before is all haha
It's the way of the world, everything is going backwards
actually, so many people voted for the duck that we finally proved that the community poll thing was bonkers to begin with.
I was kinda happy to not vote for duck ๐
I voted for duck mainly because I liked seeing some interesting characters on the MP, something that wasnt a rat warrior was refreshing
lol
im always wondering whether someone will make a game about an army of medievil rats because of the assets(tbh i hope not lol), there is that guy making the ratz game in ue4 but he models himself
vermintide was basically that :p
i never looked at that game, yeah its clearly the reason he made a medievil rat army, here i was thinking mr necturus was being creative, how wrong i was
wrapping up a character for marketplace! still 2 more to go in the same pack ๐
Them some mighty big hansd! Nice character though ๐
@ebon leaf @quartz acorn what you mean that vote thing ?
vote to get spot never was good
yeah that's gone now, which is good haha
yeah I'm not fan of do that kind of things with elements or people
yeah me neither... but in that case, you might dislike some of epic's future plans lol...
plus with that I have seen how actually happen like with Answerhub someone with contacts or followers can spam to get the spot
what make it the worst idea
Oh what voting is gone?
So they shut down one of our tools to show them some flaws of the marketplace (Community Interest Poll) they did not care about ... well i can't say i still care about the mp then.
The CIP was ill made from the start, and you know it @vapid tundra
You mean I can't vote for this???
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/gnome
lmfao.
His characters honestly feel overpriced for their quality, idk, they just don't seem like a good investment.
I mean, this looks interesting but.. werecreature? Really?
And I mean, there are materials and textures for this type of thing, right..?
Werecreature = Were creature > Was creature > Is marketplace assets now.
That's deep.
were- implies human hybrid. Weretoad sounds like it works fine
Aside from being a biped, what else does it share with a human?
Does it transform, as were creatures are shape shifters?
Werecreatures (also known as Therianthropes or Shape-Shifters) were the people of Lyssia that could change into various animal-like forms.
(plural werecreatures)
(rare) A shapeshifter that can change between human and some animal form, such as a werewolf or werebear.
Origin
were- +โ creature
While yes it means a hybrid, it also implies it can change forms.
Does it have the ability to change into a toad?
From what I've seen no, so that's false advertisement as far as I know. ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Lastly, if it was in fact some sort of creature that would turn you into one.. How did the toad infect a human? A bite? Poison coating? Some sort of measure unknown to us?
I'm reading a bit too much into it, but you know, it's a were creature.
And if you promise something you should deliver.
Reminds me of Dwarf Fortress and fighting werepinguins ๐
Lmao
I think there are few which are predefined and the rest are procedural http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=128781.30
like becoming a were-spounge
I guees SpoungeBob is one of those
I'm having an issue
It won't let me add my PayPal account
It won't let me add ANY paypal account
i'd contact the marketplace team.
It happened to me. You need to use a card.
MP Doesn't know why, and they can't pinpoint the issue.
Wait, I thought it was saying your PP account was blocked from purchases
No try to message MP like Yoeri said, sorry.
How long basically Support is answer? Anyone knows?
@little latch Am I right if I recall that you own LAM?
Idk probably a lawng periollically tiem @tiny stag
@real dust yes
it's definitely OK. however, tessellation and displacement mapping is inordinately expensive on larger terrains, so a great deal of it had to be gutted
in the end the only thing i think we're still using is the skeletal structure of the material and the water caustics layer
i wish tessellation and displacement didn't cost 20 fps...but it kinda does. in fact i can't find a single asset of any sort that i can use that feature with, not even props
i tried it on a tree's bark. BOOM 20 fps gone
so.. .this just got rejected from the marketplace because its not PBR
https://anarchystudio.itch.io/shellingsystem
<_<
its so bad 80.lv wouldnt even make a post about it
My question for that is the same.
What
The fuck
Why did they accept that duck then?
Assholes
See, if that was on the marketplace I'd buy it instantly
I would've already, but I don't ahve a credit card, so I can't get it from gumroad ๐
So is this channel just a bitch on items Channel now that epic has left?
Problem of the marketplace didn't just spring up it has always been that way
Honestly - Keep your problems between Epic and Yourself please. I am tired of reading about them. I just want to see cools stuff by awesome people.
it was a bitch on items channel when they were here, too ๐
...
ooooorr...just don't read it? :/
it's pretty easy to ignore stuff you're not interested in
not trying to be a dick when I say that, btw
I feel like this channel is a valid place to note irregularities in the Marketplace
considering Epic ignores us when we point them out directly ๐
Yep.
and sure, they say they don't listen anymore, but I bet a few of those Epic guys still check in on occasion
So whoever wants to complain about complaining go ahead. ๐
I'd imagine it was pressure from higher ups going "Why the fark are you wasting time listening to the same group of individual marketplace creators when we have a forums and ticket system?!"
that and the fact that they put no resources into the MP
< bitches about whatever he wants :p
Okay memes == valid criticism
see? easily ignored ๐
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Suggestions for good tree packs?
They should have trees
Yeah, I think that's the most original tree pack ever
I don't see a lot of asian settings, so that could be interesting
Blossom trees are pretty
Would be hot
Well I assume it's warmer in Asia than here atm
But yeah, I think asian settings would be nice
Or african
Just not our-terrain trees
I think he might have been asking for recommendations on which one to buy not to make? I dunno ๐
hahah
lol XD
I second the vote for more varied tree packs from different parts of the world though. Excellent idea.
I forget there are sometimes other people than ranting marketplace sellers in here :p
you should buy my skull pack...I know they look like skulls, but they're trees, trust me :/
lol
Make a skull tree and I'll buy it ๐
the thought ocurred to me before :0
not sure how i'd animate it though
wanted to have skulls hanging down on ropes from the limbs, swaying to the breeze
Hello friends
Can I ask you for RT?
My Building Sounds #UE4 marketplace asset is on 75% sale! https://t.co/r47cc5gOk4 #gamedev #indiedev #GameAudio #UnrealEngine https://t.co/FHErYWEM23
retweeted from both. Awesome video haha
thanks ๐
at what time does the marketplace update?
around this time tomorrow I think
awesome ๐
It does vary a bit depending on what Epic are doing/how busy they are I think
gotcha, thank you!
No worries ๐
The fact that Epic doesn't do anything with the feedback doesn't mean we should stop giving it
That's like saying people should've stopped asking for Volumetric Lighting two years ago when it was backlogged for the second time
That you don't get what you want doesn't mean you should let people do exactly what they want without opinionating
(In my opinion)
I don't understand why PBR materials have to be on a block-out level design tool.. seems like a waste of resource if anything
also I dont understand why everyone was promoting that produc so happily
maybe they have some internal tool that autochecks materials to make sure they have all the PBR inputs
and since it's part of their check list, they just go "nope, no PBR!"
yeah that's actually what i've been thinking, it couldn't be a sane human
but if it returns "Duck" it's good
searching for animals i see no duck
which is another thing that puzzles me
capable of making UE4 tech and not able to do a simple functional search / tag / keyword system...
don't look too hard
in 2017
what has been seen cannot be unseen
the Duck
the UE MP feels to me like steam early days
where only the select few get in their special boys club
and now look at steam.. you can put literally anything on it
lol
yeah well the duck
I mean, you can't buy marketing like that ๐
i don't really see where the problem is, apart that it wont sell well because its a hard fit for any game
maybe if you're making a Five Nights At Freddy's kinda game it could be usefull ๐
Maybe if it was a pack full of duck variants, it wouldn't be bad
i personally wouldn't put it on the marketplace
but it seems to be pretty minimal effort
and my skills are below that
that's what a personal problem of mine with packs like these
just one or a few pieces
and most of the time you can't find the rest of the assets you need to fit the style
I was looking at your material pack a couple of times @wooden falcon
i like the first pack and the fact you updated them
ok np
and thanks para ๐
Ooh, a good pack would be a 'Small Insects & Animals pack', mostly used as background/small insects on the ground; like spiders, etc. It could come in handy when it comes to adding in details in environments
See if that duck was included in something like that, I'd definitely buy it
Little hint for everyone, who got rejected, because materials is not PBR: just connect scalar parameters with default values (like 0.5 to roughness or 0 to metallic) to all PBR inputs and it will solve an issue. When I was in process of publishing my first pack a year ago, I also got such comment from MP team and solved it like that. It useful, if you have a solid color material, for example.
I don't know much about materials at all, but that sounds like Epic requiring sellers to make their materials less performant in order to get accepted!
Did someone get any replies from Epic those days?
@fringe marlinrann#7656 I don't think that making a customizable scalar/vector parameter will affect a performance a lot. They want only PBR materials (which is fine) and it's a minor disadvantage to require this even for simple materials in order to execute a rule without any exceptions. Otherwise, I guess they will need more complex rules -> more time to check everything -> fewer assets to release.
+1 for insects & animals pack
butterflies, bees, grasshopers, ants, spiders, ... chickens, pigs, boars, cats, dogs, all kinds of common birds
strange lack of animals on the marketplace
a friend of mine wanted to do a small hand-drawn-ish critter pack. mostly really small things that dont require 3d. like ants, small spiders, etc.
yeah, can work well
I've seen cockroaches and ant's beeing made as an animated texture or with particles
@harsh coral for animals would you go for stylized or you prefer realistic?
wouldnt be too hard to add simplistic animations to em. but actual movement would be overkill
I'd prefer realistic
I'd buy quality animals in an instant
since i can use them in so many situations
isn't there one with foxes and bears
^ +1
there is, it's a bit expensive and it's only a few of the animals i'm after sadly
quality is good though
atm i'm sourcing them from turbosquid
results vary wildly
wildly is still an understatement hehe
hehe ye
can't really use them in a single game all together, but occasionaly I find use for them as bg elements for some renders (not game related)
@livid crater are you the guy who made the swan and hawk and others ?
no
only animal i made was a dog and it was stylized and not for marketplace XD
oh and a sheep
a sheep would be nice also
It seems like wait times for submissions got longer, my first plugin was processed in around 20 days but my new one is taking around a month and a half.
oh noo, just made a submission 3 days ago ๐ญ
basically domestic/farm/wild animals is what i'm looking for, mostly the common ones you can find all over the world, since i can use them the most
with basic animations. I dont expect them to do all the moves a real animal would do. additionally, an animation pack that extends on the basic animations..
i could see that sell rather well
and again, an additional pack for stylized/toon versions of the animals
walk, run, idle, eat, attack if applicable
yea
it would make sense to split model + basic set and an additional set
some people might only need it for a bg element and dont require all the aditional animations
or any at all
.. oh and in the meantime if anyone considers buying stuff from turbosquid...
make use of their online help system, you can chat with someone and get them to open the file in 3dmax for you
and can answer questions provide additional screenshots
it's a must if you dont want to buy a cat in a bag
man, that Synty guy must be making massive dollars on the MP, with all those neat stylized low poly packs
I just wish I was more creative...only thing I can think of is Stylized Low Poly Boxes
:/
lol
@harsh coral and deaths.
yeah, it is, and it looks pretty
i'm a sucker for nice stylized low poly stuff
and pixel graphics
bought a few games purely because of the nice pixel art or low poly aesthetics
maybe it's a bit to do with nostalgia since i started on those games
I buy games to look at the art all the time. lol
Same
Bought Abzu for that reason
Firewatch too
(Hated both of them besides the art)
Arma 3 Apex in part
reason I buy most games is just to look
bought Rage just cause I wanted to see the landscapes
though lately I'm in a nostalgic mode and am playing old games from my childhood (Blood, Duke3d, Full Throttle)
modern games have a lot to learn from those older ones ๐
Starcraft is free, the original
yah, saw that
new hd remake is looking good
well, not remake I guess...touch up more like it
Is it? Lol feels the same
is there a way to change the forum thread "pre-name" from [SUBMITTED] to [RELEASED], or do I need to make a new post?
how do you contact one? ๐ what's best way to reach them?
thank you ๐
hi, for Europe, what is "Name of Tax Identification" more precise Romania if needed at all
My marketplace item is showing up as "add to project" instead of "create project", trying to reach out to anyone from the marketplace team that can help out in fixing this issue
completely unusable at this point
since I'm using custom collision and input profiles
why did they stop? did they give a reason?
I blame Luos
j/k
no, they didn't really give a reason
just said they had to focus all their energies
did they even announce it?
<_<
Well one of our packs was supposed to come out today. But its nowhere to be found.
managed to fix it, emailed support and was very surprised they replied in <2 h
Where all the new products at, was only like half a page
For some reason iam waiting 3 days for answer now, how did u get it in 2 h =/
@tiny stag In my experience, they prioritize things based partly on whether or not it's something they can easily answer right away.
At least I hope that's their criteria.
But yeah personally speaking, if I get an answer in 3 days I'm pleasantly surprised.
they announced that the new content feature cycle was ending. Now they are featuring 3 new items, 3 epic picks and 3 others (could be random, might be themed, etc.)... looks like they removed that thread too though
Anyone has experience with Gumroad?
yerp
"The Unreal Engine marketplace, where moving backwards is the new forward! Sell your assets at us now to receive changes to our platform without us letting you know and in order to improve our servers we will gladly limit your accessibility to the platform!"
And how does Gumroad compare to MP?
haven't sold on gumroad so wouldn't know
How does it compare in what way?
Feature wise it's light years ahead of the marketplace. Same with potential profit per sale. But the exposure is awful lol
That is kinda what I expected, thanks
No worries ๐ Sorry for the delays haha, was on my phone. If you want anything more specific, at my PC now ๐
Np, just wanted to see if it is a trusted site to sell stuff ๐
haha definitely. Just make sure you put a licence on there to cover it as there's no automatically inherited one like there is on the marketplace
@ebon leaf Stupid question but where do I put the license?
Just in a text file with the download, or something on the product description, etc. Just so you are covered legally.
Ok, thanks. Never sold anything outside Ue4 MP...
yeah... MP makes it super easy in that regard ๐
Honestly I have no clue what they're playing at. Putting up major changes in some forum thread without ever emailing sellers, then deleting the thread a couple of days later.
Marketplace 101
They have the worst communicative skills
I don't think they realize they're a public entity and just saying something and then deleting it is very bad practice
Since when are they a public entity?
It's not deleted, just not stickied anymore so the marketplace forum section doesn't have too many sticky threads
you can find it here https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?142176-Update-to-Featured-Section
Dann it pepe! This room is only for bashing on things, not using your brain. How dare you take the time to actually go look instead of just spout and some s*** out of your mouth hole
sorry for that
No apparently it's also for abusing people who are unsurprisingly fed up of continued incompetence and bizarre decisions, which seems to be the sum total of your contributions.
And unstickying such a significant announcement so soon is effectively the same as deleting it. It means it goes by largely unnoticed by most sellers, which was the only point I was making.
Well I'm glad you have my contribution summed up nicely for me thanks
public entity i mean that they're public and not hidden somewhere, a lot of people use the marketplace and what they do affects a lot of people including sellers and buyers so they have a public face
Public facing businesses don't automatically become public. They offer you things in a public space there still a private companies so whatever they decide to do is their right to do. You all seem to be complaining about epic the company yet still Patron the company. That is indeed your right as a consumer. It is also your right as a consumer to complain about the company when they're doing practices you don't agree with.
The question is is it okay to only come here and b**** about the negative things? We don't all work in the marketplace we use this channel as a place to touch base with what's happening in the marketplace.
It has literally become such a b**** fast that it seems to have sparked epic to even just leave.
Everyone can play that out however they want but at the end of the day a company hearing nothing but negativity endlessly from a single outlet is probably going to stop listening to that outlet.
And while some of the concerns are legitimate a lot of it is mostly wrapped in noise and hyperbolic hate.
It also doesn't help that people don't understand how businesses work nor how they work differently between countries.
I am not talking about a public company, and this has nothing to do with different countries, the way they handle communication is just plain wrong.
Then you should stick to that statement
What's happening is exactly what's being written
Your description bears no resemblance whatsoever to how this channel has been for the past few months, and on Slack before it. It's far more likely that Epic left because they realized it just made far more sense to communicate through official channels.
Well anyway by far the most bitching and spouting has been coming from you, so I guess I'm gonna make you the first person I've ever bothered to block. Maybe if enough others do the same you'll take your desperate attention-grabbing moniker and flashing avatar and go attack people elsewhere.
Actually that's exactly the description is channel ever since it started. I've been here and Slackers ever since day one
So trying to tell me how it's been from your perspective is great and all but that's your perspective
Just like when I laid out is my perspective.
Not for nothing but there's only a seemingly a couple of you who seem to b**** about my bitching about you bitching
So yeah maybe they can all block me feel free do what you need to do bro but at the end of the day epic isn't here you all keep bitching and a lot of people are tired of listening to it
that's such bullshit
while there were complaints, all I ever saw was "you guys are great"
no body was ever trashing on the Epic employees themselves
well, I doubt Epic the "entity" decided "screw you guys, I'm going home!"
you seem stressed out, have a duck: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/little-yellow-duck
Considering they said screw you guys we're going home.... lol?
And nobody said employees. Epic the entity.
well, they basically said that it made no sense to sit in a channel and process random requests when they already have a forums and ticket system to handle that
and I kind of agree on that point, even though it was nice to get immediate response
but in the end, they were only serving a very small fraction of MP sellers who would come to this channel
This guy commenting on some marketplace asset ๐คฆ
Well, offering free stuff is good marketing strategy anyway
you'd be surprised how many offsers for paid work I got from stuff i released as public domain
Anyone here who has ever sold a plugin on the marketplace? I could use a bit of help with the final debug step. Thanks!
Debugging has been discussed in private. Thanks! This isn't related, but I just updated the UWorks thread: https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?141019-UWorks-(Complete-Steamworks-C-BP-Integration-Plugin)
YAY
cool
didn't know about that plugin , amazing!
instant bookmark
Yea I'm buying that haha
Very bloody nice
@lean venture Will you have an example of a simple dedicated game server with steam authentication and listed on the steam master server?
@leaden root I just dropped a link with 2 example projects, one of them being a server listed on the master server, but without authentication, just basic registration and updating with a unique ID generated based on time
Check this post for the link if you want ^
Cheers thanks man
No problem. Also probably worth mentioning I've included the BPs for the client/server examples in the plugin. All you need to do is SpawnActor(ClientManager) or SpawnActor(ServerManager) @leaden root
The client's interface and everything is included (except the 2 fonts + background image because I don't own a commercial license for those yet)
Epic's been a bit slow in updating packs lately
they have something in the works? Like, the ability to sort alphabetically? j/k ๐
They're too busy hiding our emails :p
lol
So anyone know what the deal is with this info, was it announced somewhere?
I only stumbled on the link on Twitter. Didn't even know this section of the website existed before.
And the submission guidelines on forum/seller portal are unchanged...
@oak thistle Be happy with it...
Well, I don't really mind either way, just wondering if they've even taken effect.
Assuming my product gets accepted and I get paid directly via bank account, how can I calculate the fee my bank is going to charge? From what I've learnt so far, I have to know which bank the money comes from (i.e. Epic's account) but I couldn't find the info on the internet. Thanks!
@lean venture That seems like something you need to talk with your bank and epic
All banks differ on direct transfer fees.
I wish epic had stricter rules for acceptance regarding BP's and code, now it appears as if they are super uptight regarding art assets and anything goes for BPs
holy .. 90โฌ Steam api plugin o_o
sounds promising
It is so worth the 90
@harsh coral the trade off is that you gotta make a tut bp from what I've heard. Try making one of them.
Oh that's your example?
๐
That's pretty bad but I'd argue that there's way worse out there
something i got from the marketplace thinking i'd save on development time, and have a more proper system then if i'd make it myself.. cause someone who knows his stuff is doing this profesionally
.. i know there's worse out there which is why i'm scared of buying and more bp's
i can deal with a missing roughness map.. i can see it from the screenshots
My personal favorite has seperate classes for something which should just be changing an int.
But I can't really criticize it, because its not like BP never drops variable values
there's a helper function which gets actors to ignore during raycasts, and it's used only once, the rest of the places have just the same duplicated code
I'm going to need a high res of that grapth @harsh coral
i made the low res on purpose since i dont want to point any fingers around to be mean
yeah
I don't buy many BP MP packs these days, so I don't need to avoid that particular product especially
But maybe let @gaunt flicker know in PM, seems like he wants to explore it or something
Epic has a good philosophy with the engine of "eating their own dog food"
wish marketplace assets were also more battel tested
it's all fine and dandy in showcase maps, but when you put it into a real scenario things start to fall apart
You considered hiring a freelancer to work on the game directly?
no
You're allowed to create non-interactive content from mp assets
Which includes screenshots of graphs
yolo
I'm just gonna have to roll my own stuff out
and stop looking to cut corners
(in this instance)
nice save
๐
Allars generic shooter was a super helpful reference to get me up to speed on multiplayer stuff
IDK if you've seen it, but Cedric's got a handy PDF pinned in the #multiplayer channel
Not to diss GS or anything, but its a quicker reference than loading up UE4
yeah i agree, but it was helpful to also see it practice
i'm dabling with gamedev for years now, comfortable in most roles though i'm not really great at anything, but multiplayer and character modeling/animating is my weak spot
I've made 1 turn based mp game prototype in the past
this is my first time doing a full on mp game
which is why i bought some mp enabled BP's to save on time and to learn from
"MP Enabled" usually just means "Yeah things don't explode, and you can see something happen as a result of another person doing something"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRaTTbMKBQY Its not on the marketplace yet, anyway, hope you like it ๐
Ultra Map is a new UE asset which renders minimaps of any shape, in 2D/3D, draws areas and paths, can be zoomed in/out, renders points with advanced options ...
@wicked pebble That's exactly what I'm confused about. I'll rephrase: what am I supposed to ask for? who would be the person I should contact for the respective info? how do other people on the MP handle direct bank transfers from Epic? I can't believe I'm the only one contemplating direct account transfer
direct transfer to my account* (as in: without PayPal)
Or, in short: what are the pro's and con's for each of the 2 cases
I was under the impression they all do
Mine doesn't charge a fee either
Theres usually a fee for sending, not for receiving
And I remember reading an article saying the fees can go up to 30%
mine takes 1$ on very 400$
they charge a fee for exchange rate conversion
I've never worked with bank transactions across the border, only "in-doors"
Just walk into your bank and be like, yo, listen
Ah, if you're doing a currency exchange
then
iunno
I intend to, on Thursday, but from what I've heard, they're going to ask me what bank is going to make the transfer, like who's going to pay me, because they have different fees
it is usually a very small fee
But I won't know anything more than that until Thursday so that's why I thought I might as well ask in here
I'm not particularly interested in a currency exchange I guess
- there's another thing I'm brainstorming, but I doubt I'll find more info about it around here: I've also heard here and there that if I leave my money untouched in my PayPal account, I don't have to pay income taxes for it
But as far as I know, that can be a very country-specific thing
@viral zinc @leaden root @harsh coral I intend to add a second module to the UWorks plugin, an OnlineSubsystemUWorks module which would implement Steam as an OS the way I believe it should be implemented. I don't agree at all with their current implementation
That sounds really nice
I don't agree with how they split their ThirdParty binaries and headers in 2 places either, but that's not in my power to change. The least I can do is have my own plugin self-contained
Thanks! But I also intend to raise it to 110-120 after I add the OSU module and another utilities module or something
Probably 110
paypal is pretty country specific, but i think almost all countries would like you to report any income you get there to be a nice citizen.. though I think only a few are in a position to find out/do anything about it
Does anyone here have a clue about the average response time of the MP team when it comes to code plugins? Thanks in advance!
When submitting a package, where do I provide a link to the zip file? On the marketplace submission page (https://publish.unrealengine.com/marketplace-submission) there is no textbox for the actual download link for the epic team. Neither is there any place to provide more than 5 screenshots, or the mandatory _featured and _thumb images. Are those things handled after I press the submit button?
@stark zinc Yes, after. Handled through a ticket mechanism powered by ZenDesk
Ah, ok. Thanks.
Np. That's where I'm at as well
Could I share What I bought on the market place with my other Epic accout?
Why do you have two accounts?
Technically, seeing as you are working on your own projects, it's okay to do ๐
technically
both are not MINE, but it's my coworker's one.
It's okay to do, like to connect on one account, dl the project, then connect on the other account and use it?
There is not an "automatic" way?
No automatic way no. But as long as you and your coworker are working on the same project it's oaky. You coworker cannot take the content and use themselves later for their own projects.
Okay good. He technically can't or legally can't? Use what I bought later?
Legally he can't use content you purchased for his own projects, only for projects involved with you.
ah okay!
Good, thanks ๐
No worries ๐
anyone been having trouble getting a response from marketplace-support lately?
like... more than usual or just the usual trouble? :p
@wooden falcon Yes, I've updated my ticket early Friday and I still haven't gotten a reply. It's almost as if they didn't work at all during weekend or on Labor Day ๐ฆ
I actually wish I had any idea what their average response time was, for a code submission
they don't work on weekends or holidays ๐
What a surprise lol
their response time has usually been pretty good...but not lately (at least in my experience)
there seems to be something going on with the Marketplace at the moment, but I couldn't say what it is
guess we will have to wait it out a bit
hopefully it's not like "We're closing the Marketplace"
hmm, Adam's right on top of sale requests though...put in a request for sale this morning, and he already sent me the email saying he set it up
How odd.
Sad that there is no more official answers on this channel
Did someone ask Support what happens with Marketplace?
They are working on making things more transparent with the community.
Ahh, i see, thanks
I don't know...
They said they have been working on making things more transparent with community.
@ebon leaf @obtuse wren it's not as black and white like that if it's a code plugin
and I don't think even sellers know the correct terms
EULA mentions that code plugins are or can be per seat
but it's really oddly put
Yay, finally finished my FX and UI functions pack. Submitted it two days ago. https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?143921-FX-and-UI-Functions&p=703665#post703665
cool
@stark zinc Cost?
I submitted it as 35 USD
Looks really nice
because great justice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH4Q1n77SAQ
The awesome HappyDay created a package around math-based vfx (or procedural vfx) and allowed me to try it out and play around with it. I can see so many poss...
Intresting how long u will wait for Epic reply
@white osprey since the marketplace voting thing is gone now, whats gonna happen with the star-thingy for the marketplace badge?
I'll talk with the team about how we want to give those out going forward
can I have a forum-bug report badge? :p
"Epic's Little Helper" badge
lol
Thanks a lot though, really appreciated the help
np ๐
magic @white osprey