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elfin plinth
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@cinder sable step 1: don't disrespect your customer when the said customer is having obvious issues

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but yeah, good response would be to explain that pack contains what was advertised and ask the person to contact the seller to solve the issue

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now what I see is that seller is just bashing the customer

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even if the customer got his issue resolved after writing the frustrated message, he/she'll sure not change the 1 star review after seller treats him/her like that

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also, seller shouldn't take things this personal, if seller is too proud to reach out for the customer who's struggling with the asset he/she bought (with real money, mind you), things like these will remain unsolved in the future too

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btw, the person who sent that frustrated review isn't just an account created to make fake reviews, same nickname has been posting on the forums too

cinder sable
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I wasn't speaking about this specific issue, rather in general.

elfin plinth
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that would apply in general case too, just drop a note to the customer so things get solved

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even if the customer doesn't reply back, it shows on the review that seller cared enough to try to reach out for the person

cinder sable
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I disagree... the seller reacted appropriately...

elfin plinth
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There are some people recently dropping low ratings /fake reviews on my and other people's products. Please don't pay any attention to such fake reviews.

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so, that's helping the customer in what way?

cinder sable
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It might be fake because if the person had any skill they would know what was included... plus...

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The dude was not seeking resolution...

elfin plinth
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well, we have to remember that we have users here that might not know a thing about game engines

cinder sable
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He was bashing

elfin plinth
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doesn't matter, he was frustrated

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I'm not saying the customer acted appropriately

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I'm just saying responding with disrespect will not solve these kinds of issues now or in the future

cinder sable
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Anyway, don't want to go around in circles....

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I simply disagree with you... and, that's cool.

scarlet wave
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@ebon leaf Well it is nice to know you finally woke up!

delicate dove
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Im with @silver moat on this.

delicate dove
silver moat
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To let buyers know that's a fake comment and I'm not ripping them off is not disrespect towards anyone.
That was actually disrespect towards the seller, in this case me, by saying I have not included what I'm advertising which means I'm trying to rip people off. And that's not the first time. Some time before that someone else was yelling in public my products aren't game ready and run at 10FPS, I tried so hard to help him but he constantly ignored my responses and continued spreading lies and insults. So I've had enough cases like this to know what's going on with people posting such comments. If there was 0.1% change he was frustrated he'd have entered the Support Thread instead of posting a comment and then never coming back to check if there's been any replies on his comment.
Sad fact is, if you disrespect anyone on the forums you either get banned, warned or something. But a seller is expected to tolerate such things forever.
If you have trouble playing Paragon and go on the forums insulting Epic not only they'd stop you but they'll have you leave that place and go to the proper place for support. Sadly, that's not the case when someone insults sellers at all.

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Also, commenting section is for asking questions, leaving suggestions and generally anything but a place to try and scare others off. It's not.
Sadly, many do the mistake of thinking "Someone trying to ruin your public image and scare people off" is considered free flow of information. But it's not. We have support threads for a reason.

candid heart
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I`m still waiting on a reply from EG for my plugin XD

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wonder how long it`ll be.

wooden falcon
ebon leaf
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"sucky sucky love you long time"

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I've seen enough hentai to know where that is going

wooden falcon
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heh

delicate dove
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hmm, thats actual photogrammetry of my ex gf

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wonder how he got her to model for him

wooden falcon
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lol

harsh coral
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i get a re-captcha thing in the checkout phase of the launcher and it says i have to use a supported browser ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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i dunno why there's a third party involved in these transactions to fuck things up

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shouldnt paypal paysafecard etc have a more direct option

ebon leaf
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@harsh coral weird... I wonder when that was implemented, because we still definitely get fraudulent purchases lol... What browser were you using?

harsh coral
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i was trying to buy from the launcher

ebon leaf
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...lol

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oh god

harsh coral
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since it's not a launcher and the third party has a check now it's no go

ebon leaf
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what payment method? Paypal?

harsh coral
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a couple of months back there was another issue

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i was trying to pay with paysafecard

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still am

ebon leaf
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@proven lily Might be worth noting the point above that @harsh coral has made and passing onto the UX team or whoever is responsible - using the launcher, it's possible to get a recaptcha during checkout that does not says the launcher is not a supported browser lol

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@harsh coral I guess your alternative atm is to go via the marketplace in a supported browser. Somewhat ridiculous that you need to exit Epic's framework to purchase from epic's store though lol

harsh coral
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i'm waiting for the processing of payment.. is this a joke?
"We are processing your payment. It may take up to 20 minutes for it to appear on your account. Thank you for your patience."

ebon leaf
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Is that paysafecard giving you that message or the UE4 marketplace?

harsh coral
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the third party that sits between ue4 and paysafecard

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it's pretty wide spread at least here in europe and i didnt have any issues like that over the years that i used the service

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i doubt Epic can do much except work with paysafecard directly if possible or change the middle man

ebon leaf
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Yeah that's pretty annoying though.

proven lily
harsh coral
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Adam Davis i already did so in the past..

proven lily
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Can you PM me what email you used? I'll be happy to look this up so we can get eyes on it

harsh coral
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The issue is that Xsolla is having trouble processing payments often

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the error i often get is "The transactions is not possible at this moment" .. or something close to that

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and i saw other people complaining about the same thing

proven lily
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have you contacted Xsolla about this?

harsh coral
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Yes i have, and they didn't even acknowledge any issues and told me to contact you ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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a few days later it worked

ebon leaf
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/facepalm

harsh coral
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so guess maybe i'll try tomorrow ?

proven lily
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Can you pm me your email address so we can look this up and look further into what may be occurring?

stark zinc
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Is the information here correct regarding the dimensions of the featured image? 894px by 488px? http://help.epicgames.com/customer/en/portal/articles/2592186-marketplace-submission-guidelines-preparing-your-assets#Submission Process
The currently featured images seem to be cut off at the top. Seems like the actual size is 640px by 288px, which is a different aspect ratio. https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace

Epic Games

Preparing Your Assets Submission Requirements Particle Effects Animations Blueprints Meshes Materials T...

ebon leaf
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The inormation available is correct... but epic use the images in multiple situations, some of which those dimensions do not entirely match -.- Unfortunately, based on the responses myself and some other creators have got, there's no way around this other than to alter your featured image to make sure that the text and such fits into these multi-use scenarios. It's... kinda stupid

stark zinc
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Ah, ok. That's good to know. Thanks.

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I guess I'll just design my featured image to still look good when cut off.

ebon leaf
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Pretty much the only way around it yeah.

wooden falcon
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hmm, what will this week's "duck/unicorn" be, I wonder?

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so much antici...

wooden falcon
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...pation!

delicate dove
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consti?

wooden falcon
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...pation!

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๐Ÿ˜ƒ

delicate dove
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resig...

wooden falcon
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n!

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:/

delicate dove
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nation ffs

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slaps @wooden falcon

delicate dove
honest bobcat
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If Im using the Epic Games launcher looking at marketplace, is there a way for me to copy a link to an item so I can paste it to someone? I only see Facebook and Twitter share links, not a direct copy store link

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I dont accidentally want to post to Twitter, and I dont have a facebook.

harsh coral
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yeah copy url +1

wooden falcon
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no new content today?

hollow falcon
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yeah my new Backface Cull texture pack is online now ! only ยฃ49.99

wooden falcon
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I don't see it

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got a link?

heady moth
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@honest bobcat click the twitter button, then copy paste the link

proven lily
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Hey @wooden falcon we are currently working on the new released content. There's been some delays on the backend but it should be ready before the end of day today, at latest in the morning tomorrow

wooden falcon
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thx for the info!

delicate dove
vapid tundra
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its a cycle. i offer a material export plugin ๐Ÿ˜›

ebon leaf
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cant you just get the assest file from the folder?

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I don't think there is a way to export that material so it could be approved by the marketplace team ๐Ÿ˜„

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can't you just upload the .uasset file????

delicate dove
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he's just a newb and didnt even check out the submission guidelines hehe

ebon leaf
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yeah but why wouldnt they let you do that?????

delicate dove
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because you need to send the entire project, and it doesnt hit any of the requirements

ebon leaf
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so you'd have to have the materials as some kinda "bonus" I guess

delicate dove
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no, you need a minimum amount of materials, and even then if its something as basic as this I doubt they'd allow it

ebon leaf
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can you use a different site than the marketplace to sell it?

delicate dove
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yea you could, but anybody who'd want to pay for this instance.. needs to see a doctor hehe

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but yea, if it was an awesome high end material pack, it could sell

ebon leaf
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oh I didnt read the text I thought it was yours

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lol

wooden falcon
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lol

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yah luos, stop trying to sell crappy mats ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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that's my job

hollow falcon
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you haven't seen my mats yet.

wooden falcon
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are they on the mp yet?

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was looking yesterday

jovial thunder
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"that fire texture looks like one of the first hits on google probably because it comes standard with Unreal" ๐Ÿ˜‚

delicate dove
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yea hehe, no comment there

jovial thunder
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Also not sure what happened to his image, I don't see it on the Answerhub question. They must have removed it after your criticism lol

delicate dove
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he did, was up a few min ago

ebon leaf
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oi @delicate dove , learn how to internet ๐Ÿ˜›

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goes to

jovial thunder
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Ew

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You linked to your vault link??

leaden root
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Get 404'd son

ebon leaf
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How can I buy your damn cave meshes now?! ๐Ÿ˜›

delicate dove
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odd though, i can change his name, profile, and email, yet I cant send the guy a pm

jovial thunder
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Never link to your vault link

delicate dove
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wtf, I updated that a few days ago

leaden root
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Welp guess I aint buying any caves, bloody 404

delicate dove
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making it worse, youtube also killed the link

ebon leaf
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I'm gonna go buy some OTHER cave pack now. Jeez ๐Ÿ˜›

jovial thunder
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Same to be honest, I'm in a hurry. smh...

delicate dove
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lol

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there, zelda's fixed

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thanks for pointing them out

ebon leaf
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too late sorry sir. I '

delicate dove
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haha

ebon leaf
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goddamnit ๐Ÿ˜›

delicate dove
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dafuq

jovial thunder
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lol

delicate dove
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Y AM I GETTING ALL THE EMAILS?! hehe

jovial thunder
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Don't get carried away ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

delicate dove
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i wouldnt

jovial thunder
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Go find questions about people complaining about AH spam, and check all the boxes

delicate dove
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haha

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ok, that made me laugh way too loud

ebon leaf
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Oh btw - unrelated to this above... something that seems to be popping up now that we have a little more control over our packs - people are changing their Public Seller Name a bit now (guessing people didn't realise it was possible until they checked changing product details)... Just a note - if you do that, ALL your packs will nolonger link to your seller page anymore, because the links do not update automatically so you ened to annoy @proven lily to get this fixed ๐Ÿ˜› I've seen a couple of sellers who have changed their names and now you can't see what else they've made lol

jovial thunder
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Ouch

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Didn't know you could do that ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

ebon leaf
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I changed mine a week or two ago... but I always check everything as soon as I change things so I knew straight away haha ๐Ÿ˜›

jovial thunder
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You can add social media stuff now too?

ebon leaf
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yeah

delicate dove
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i do find it a bit odd you can change seller name so easy

ebon leaf
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dunno how many people will notice though...

delicate dove
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complain about seller X, seller X changes name to Seller Y, crisis avoided. hehe

jovial thunder
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Yeah :/

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Small world I guess though?

ebon leaf
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@delicate dove lol yeah... should probably be a limit on that

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It's not much good anyways... cause if you change your name it stays the same on the product pages ๐Ÿ˜› that's the issue I'm talking about. Your seller page will changes from "Con Artist Chump" to "Dodgy Dev Guy" but on your product "Legit Scam Pack" it'll still say "Con Artist Chump" as the author, and link toa 404 lol

delicate dove
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haha

scarlet wave
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ponders how he's so good at coming up with "dodgy names"........... lots of practice?

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lmao

delicate dove
nova scaffold
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he won't use it Luos

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what have you done to him?

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๐Ÿ˜„

delicate dove
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if he wants he can do it, but I did suggest to get something he could use as a base instead of buying something he wouldnt use.

nova scaffold
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nice reaction, I guess you've helped him with something

delicate dove
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oh he asked me for the smoke used in my latest package, but its base is just the regular ue4 smoke. would feel wrong to tell him to buy the pack or sell the smoke if its identical

nova scaffold
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depends whom you ask ๐Ÿ˜„

delicate dove
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hehe

leaden root
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I'll sell him the default UE4 smoke

delicate dove
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haha

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psst, wanna buy learning tab content?

pure kernel
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Hey, I'm thinking about releasing a pack (more than the default ue4 smoke ๐Ÿ˜› ) and I was wondering is just posting on the forums the best way to gauge wether it's worth it? And if it is, base the price on community recommendations?

delicate dove
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currently generic smoke is so hot, id replace all materials with the smoke

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and yea, thats a good idea, though dont undrsell yourself

pure kernel
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haha

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Cheers ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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Well I hope to have it posted soonโ„ข ๐Ÿ˜›

wooden falcon
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best way to gauge pricing is to look at similar items on the marketplace

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and then undercut them!

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j/k

pure kernel
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I was thinking of making a cave set with smoke

real dust
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As in

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A mystical setting where everything is made of a thing veil of smoke

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And if you walk into them the smoke puffs up

pure kernel
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Sure, we can go with that ^^

real dust
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And it's all just imagination?

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Like, dark purple/blue/black smoke

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With stars all around you

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Wherever you look

pure kernel
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I'm working on a complete landscape pack, but the prices seem to vary so much on the MP

real dust
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It really depends on the quality tbh

pure kernel
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Hopefully, fairly decent

real dust
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I love the water nearby

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The distant water needs more large scale detail

leaden root
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Thats some nice looking water

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The close up photo

pure kernel
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Yeah, still working on the ocean one

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So the idea of the pack is it's kind of everything needed to get a landscape set up fast. Auto material with the ability to paint. Ocean and lake shader, with rocks, trees, grass and foliage

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All using photogrammetry

real dust
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Can I see a shot without PP?

pure kernel
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Sure, I'll just load it up

real dust
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Assuming there's PP on there

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If there isn't the diffuse are overkill

pure kernel
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There is PP, I was just playing around with it mostly trying things out

real dust
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xD

pure kernel
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I'm still really new to adjusting things in post, and lighting and stuff

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Just the PP disabled, lights left the same

real dust
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Those rocks are done with photogrammetry?

pure kernel
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The ocean has detail in the water, but right now the normal and tessellation are tied together, so they both fade to 0 over distance

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No, rocks are temp

real dust
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Phew

pure kernel
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Only the landscape textures and foliage (- trees) are

real dust
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So

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First off

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Those dark green pixels

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Are those your landscape material?

pure kernel
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No, i think that's the shadows being weird

real dust
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Is that your landscape material being weird in shadows?

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๐Ÿ˜›

pure kernel
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Well, then I guess so ^^

real dust
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Or your grass...

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Can you zoom in?

pure kernel
real dust
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Yeahh that's definitely your material

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Can you decrease your metallic to 0 on it?

pure kernel
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It is

real dust
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Hm

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Hold up

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Wait

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Is your grass using subsurf?

pure kernel
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It is, bu it was the skylight

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The occulsion tint was white not black

real dust
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Ah

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Lol

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That makes sense

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Well then

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Now that that's fixed

pure kernel
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Hadn't noticed because I had the PP on all the time

real dust
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There's an issue with the grass

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Being the fact that you're using tiny planes

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You want your grass to probably cover more distance

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So it looks more dense

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Can you put a mannequin in there for scale?

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Also, you're not allowed to resell speedtree stuff afaik

pure kernel
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Trees and rocks are temp

real dust
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That's already better

pure kernel
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Yeah I had it turned down to make sure it still worked

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Because some grass looks bad if you turn the density down

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I'll have to install the third person pack to get the mannequin

real dust
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๐Ÿ™ƒ

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Nevermind then

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Just use a cube

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Scaled to 2 on the z axis

pure kernel
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Also that's the distance shot

real dust
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You can dwfinitwly scale the grass up a bit

pure kernel
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I'll give it a go now

real dust
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That's way better

pure kernel
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Cool, cheers

real dust
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Now the texture actually looks good

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I'm almost jealous x3

pure kernel
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I'll take almost jealous, that's good enough for me ๐Ÿ˜„

real dust
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Nevermind

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I am jealous

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Except now I notice the poor lighting on the fern

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Actually

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Just up your skylight a bit

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@pure kernel

pure kernel
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The bush on the left? or the little fern in the grass to the right?

pure kernel
real dust
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That's good

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And on the topic of that bush*

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As I said, try to up the skylight

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Because it's just that your shadows are really dark

pure kernel
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That's actually something wrong with the bush itself, It's on the list to be rebuilt

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It's just built with planes at the moment, would be nice to give it some real depth.

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It's tiger striped for some reason, looks really wierd

real dust
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Ah

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That explains, then ๐Ÿ˜›

pure kernel
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So many things on the todo list ^^

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So do you think it's a viable pack having basically everything in it, or is it too much? I've noticed that most packs try to focus on 1 part

real dust
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Well

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Odds are you won't do everything perfectly

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But it's mainly just\

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If the price is right and it looks decent people will likely go for it

pure kernel
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Makes sense, now just to find that price ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

shy phoenix
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Guys, I currently have an approved pack waiting for a date to release, usually how much time does it take from approval to getting a launch date?

tiny stag
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@shy phoenix Depends on queue i think.

wooden falcon
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it can be pretty quick

ebon leaf
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My last which released a couple of weeks ago - it was ~2 weeks from approval to getting a release date, and it released 3 days later XD

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That said... I just had a pack approved for the marketplace in less than 48 hours so... looks like things are a little more well oiled atm ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

jovial thunder
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It is that fast now? My first pack took like 3 months from submission to release

ebon leaf
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The last one wasn't (a few weeks ago). But... There's no blueprint packs on the marketplace in the recent content drop. Wondering if they are short in that category haha

jovial thunder
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When was the marketplace search updated?

ebon leaf
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It's been updated several times. THe most recent update seems to have been a stealth drop in the last week or so though not many of us are refreshing every few hours to check ๐Ÿ˜›

jovial thunder
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

ebon leaf
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most of the updates have been announced in the forums, though I dunno if the threads are still there now

ebon leaf
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Hmm they've rejected a blueprint submission of mine that took me over 100 hours not that long ago. I doubt they're short in that category :S

delicate dove
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just dont make any wires overlap :p

ebon leaf
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they didn't even want to see the blueprints ๐Ÿ˜„

delicate dove
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O_o what did the bp's do? and how well did you lay them out?

tiny stag
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Yea, what was that BP?

ebon leaf
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hmmm yeah... Care to share what that was at all? That's nuts =/

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hmmm thinking about extending it at some point and trying to resubmitting it if that's even allowed so I don't want to share that atm

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You're always allowed to resubmit. So good idea on keeping it quiet haha XD

heady moth
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It's a duck generator, and yes always allowed to resubmit

ebon leaf
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lol... duck generator

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notes down for next pack

heady moth
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It's perfect

ebon leaf
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Might be worth to mention that it has some art part on it. I am definitely no artist, I liked the result but it took me clearly longer than it would've took an artist

heady moth
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It's perfect

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Duck generator confirmed

ebon leaf
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dayum. I guess it's unicorn generator for me then

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rather duck

heady moth
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Are the community picks announced?

ebon leaf
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Yeah

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Character integration wont

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able second

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and gr heroine 01 third

heady moth
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I was rooting for duck :(

ebon leaf
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those were some interesting looking packs, though I'm a little surprised able got voted so much

zealous kelp
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im suprised there isnt a drone pack by now

delicate dove
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just get your entire team and friends to vote for it and you can almost be certain it'll be a top pick

ebon leaf
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team? who the hell has a team ๐Ÿ˜›

delicate dove
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some people work at an office :p

quaint cedar
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Office? You mean that chair next to my bed?

summer jacinth
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Anyone notice that replies are broken on the marketplace comments?

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I cant reply to any comment that has replied to another

proven lily
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Hey everyone,

The marketplace team is hard at work on a number of upgrades and improvements to the Marketplace. Because of this, we really need to put our heads down and keep focused on the goals we have here at Epic. As such, we will no longer be available for marketplace business through Discord, or any unofficial channel. You can still reach us if you have specific needs by emailing marketplace-support@unrealengine.com or by posting in the Marketplace forums, but we will no longer be available here. If you have any questions, please feel free to send me a private message on the forums or email marketplace-support@unrealengine.com.

oak fiber
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Thank. You.

wooden falcon
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well, sad to see you guys go ๐Ÿ˜ฆ but you've been awesome while you were here

delicate dove
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yea, ragardless of the occasional banter/complaining/whining from me/us we did appreciate having the marketplace team here.
I do hope that in the future you peeps will return to this chat.

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oh, already gone O_o

ebon leaf
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...Can someone create an Adam bot who can respond to all of us complaining?! ๐Ÿ˜ข

delicate dove
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well, mike is still around. but lets just stare at him from a distance, and hopefully not startle him

quaint cedar
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Hm

oak fiber
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just go to the lounge -- complaints all day -- same/same.

elfin plinth
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so, upgrade and improvement is to reduce communication - sounds logical ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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I'm guessing this is too public place to discuss the potential issues

wicked pebble
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Yeah my thoughts exactly @elfin plinth

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To both your statements

oak thistle
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I think it makes a lot more sense to be honest. It was ridiculous that for most of the last year, you had a much better chance of getting a response by going through an unofficial channel that probably most sellers didn't even know existed.

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Remains to be seen whether communication via the official channels will improve of course.

wicked pebble
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Having multiple sources to communicate through also removes efficiency, but this unofficial area is one of the most filled channels with people though.

real dust
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It's easy to use and active

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The official channels aren't

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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The ratio of issues people have helped me solve here to the amount of issues people have helped me solve on official channels is NaN

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Because nobody ever helped me on any of the official channels

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So I moved here ๐Ÿ˜›

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And, ya know

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Discord is open on my PC anyway

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The UE4 forums and the like aren't

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This is something I can look at quickly

oak thistle
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I'm not comparing to Answer Hub or forums really. More just when you have a specific question to the marketplace team as a seller, it makes sense that it should go through marketplace email or Creator's Hub.

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Although the latter has proved essentially pointless so far in truth.

real dust
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Yeah, that I agree on

waxen basalt
solemn prism
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^ Worth it ^

quaint cedar
wooden falcon
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hmm, ue4 forums are fugly now

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wonder what prompted the Epic exodus from discord?

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was it your doing @delicate dove ?

leaden root
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@wooden falcon You might be in mobile mode on the forum

wooden falcon
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hmm, I think you're right

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any idea how to disable it?

leaden root
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Happend to me to, look down the bottom

wooden falcon
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k, clicked on Full Site and it's back to normal

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thanks abxyxx!

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I thought I was damned to look at that horrible thing for eternity

leaden root
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I dont even wanna say how long I was using the forums like that

wooden falcon
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lol

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I figured it was one of Epic's "improvements"

wooden falcon
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big sales on the Unity store this week

turbid echo
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@quaint cedar great job!

quaint cedar
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@turbid echo Ty (:

delicate dove
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@wooden falcon nah wasnt me, it might have been a sum of things though.
I think with the few people in their team, they might have re-evaluated what would be best for their workflows.

gloomy bramble
#

What marketplace asset has the grenade throwing etc in it?

ebon leaf
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There are several... do you mean on a mechanical level or animations?

gloomy bramble
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both

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the one that has the line trajectory in it

ebon leaf
#

oh... i remember that but nfi what it was lol

gloomy bramble
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or any with the anims lol

ebon leaf
#

lol i can't find the ones I've seen before... damn marketplace search is awful :p

gloomy bramble
#

^

viral zinc
#

I would like to know who actually review the marketplace content because there is people selling cars plugins etc with models not made by they that actually say in big SCANIA etc

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Or at least they spot in the images models with that and the brand Name/Logo of an actually vehicles company

leaden root
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The marketplace would review the plugin, not the example project

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Cause the example project is always linked externally

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Thats what I would assume

viral zinc
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As second part

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the link the guy give in the marketplace

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for the example project come with the actual sources of the marketplace content

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so double win GG

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There is no demo but the whole content folder etc excluded the source code for the plugin

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Featuring files like VH_DodgeCharger, VH_M1_Abrams, VH_Scania164L pure gold

leaden root
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Epic is legally not responsible for the example project so they dont care

viral zinc
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yeah well the example project is a different topic for sure

leaden root
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I wouldnt use those branded vehicles in a commercial game, not worth the risk

viral zinc
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Yeah but there is people that buy the marketplace content after read the EULA and expect all the included content is legal to use

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since don't say otherwise

vapid tundra
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afaik there are Restrictions on Trademarks etc. "The content must not use any trademarks/logos/brands that you do not own."

vague breach
#

Hey! Can i post here a link to a Model from TurboSquid?

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Is an Indian Axe

wooden falcon
#

you mean an image?

vague breach
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Sorry, i uploaded an Asset to TurboSquid

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Can i upload it to UE market too?

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How can i sell it?

wooden falcon
#

they don't usually accept single item packs...you have to have at least 5 different items

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unless it's a rigged character model

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but yah, you can apply to get it on the UE Marketplace, even if you have it in another

vague breach
#

oh, where do you recomend to sell unique assets?

wooden falcon
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hmm...not sure...turbosquid? ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

vague breach
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is the only place where i upload haha

wooden falcon
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you can do gumroad too, but you have to do all of your own promotoion

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unity

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they probably have rules on how much has to be in a pack too, though (Unity that is)

vague breach
#

thanks necro, i think i will work in 5 more Tomahawks to apply in Marketplace, i think they can be used in survival games or something

wooden falcon
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np, good luck

delicate dove
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lol

wooden falcon
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๐Ÿ˜ƒ

tiny stag
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@vague breach Do u joined Squid Guild?

vague breach
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Not for now, do you recomend? @tiny stag

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Im not Diamond and they dont offer something "great" for normal sellers haha

tiny stag
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Well, if u will join it. You will not be able to publish product on other markets

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By joining it u say that any product is exclusivelly sells there

vague breach
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i dindt read this

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Is like a Partner from YouTube videos?

tiny stag
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That why i ask, i think u can publish to unreal

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benefit is that u get 50% not 40%

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by joining

vague breach
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i think that for 10% is better going with other markets and not only TurboS

tiny stag
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๐Ÿ˜ƒ

modern perch
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Heh, the shape of that axe head wouldn't actually work ;)

silver moat
#

I miss the staff. They're not hear to hear me complaining anymore.. They're not here to ignore me anymore... What do we talk about now....

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Hmmm...

wicked pebble
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Mp?

oak thistle
#

Hmm, so there's a post by Adam on the MP forum about featured updates. It's marked as 10 days old, but I only just saw it and it has very few views, so I guess actually it only just appeared?

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Or did I miss some previous discussion on this?

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Restricting new featured to only 3 assets seems to be pretty much going in the opposite direction to the bulk of feedback I've seen, which is to share exposure as much as possible.

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Oh, and apparently they used to feature stuff on seller request?!

ebon leaf
#

yeah wtf... that post seems bonkers.

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no more community interest poll is a good move though at least

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that said... new content doesn't really seem to get boosted on it's featured days so I don't think it matters much for the new stuff. And it sounds like older stuff is going to be highlighted more so... it might be good shrugs

oak thistle
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Yeah agreed community interest was bad.

quartz acorn
#

Thank god community interest is gone

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However I can't agree on their reasoning for changing featuring

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Sort and Search updates were the basic ones and not that everyone requested. Dunno how current updates will actually help with discoverability. But still okay I guess, not something inherently bad

ebon leaf
#

Agreed. I don't think this is a good move... but I don't think it's necessarily much worse than it was before is all haha

heady moth
#

It's the way of the world, everything is going backwards

delicate dove
#

actually, so many people voted for the duck that we finally proved that the community poll thing was bonkers to begin with.

wicked pebble
#

I was kinda happy to not vote for duck ๐Ÿ˜…

zealous kelp
#

I voted for duck mainly because I liked seeing some interesting characters on the MP, something that wasnt a rat warrior was refreshing

delicate dove
#

lol

zealous kelp
#

im always wondering whether someone will make a game about an army of medievil rats because of the assets(tbh i hope not lol), there is that guy making the ratz game in ue4 but he models himself

ebon leaf
#

vermintide was basically that :p

zealous kelp
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i never looked at that game, yeah its clearly the reason he made a medievil rat army, here i was thinking mr necturus was being creative, how wrong i was

wicked pebble
#

Intriguing.

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If anyone can make a silly idea look good it's triple A studios ๐Ÿ˜

livid crater
ebon leaf
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Them some mighty big hansd! Nice character though ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

viral zinc
#

@ebon leaf @quartz acorn what you mean that vote thing ?

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vote to get spot never was good

ebon leaf
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yeah that's gone now, which is good haha

viral zinc
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yeah I'm not fan of do that kind of things with elements or people

ebon leaf
#

yeah me neither... but in that case, you might dislike some of epic's future plans lol...

viral zinc
#

plus with that I have seen how actually happen like with Answerhub someone with contacts or followers can spam to get the spot

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what make it the worst idea

vapid tundra
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Oh what voting is gone?

vapid tundra
#

So they shut down one of our tools to show them some flaws of the marketplace (Community Interest Poll) they did not care about ... well i can't say i still care about the mp then.

wicked pebble
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The CIP was ill made from the start, and you know it @vapid tundra

silver moat
wicked pebble
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lmfao.

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His characters honestly feel overpriced for their quality, idk, they just don't seem like a good investment.

silver moat
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Werecreature = Were creature > Was creature > Is marketplace assets now.

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That's deep.

wicked pebble
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...

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Damnit, @silver moat .. ๐Ÿ˜‚

oak fiber
#

were- implies human hybrid. Weretoad sounds like it works fine

wicked pebble
#

Aside from being a biped, what else does it share with a human?

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Does it transform, as were creatures are shape shifters?

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Werecreatures (also known as Therianthropes or Shape-Shifters) were the people of Lyssia that could change into various animal-like forms.

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(plural werecreatures)

(rare) A shapeshifter that can change between human and some animal form, such as a werewolf or werebear.
Origin
were- +โ€Ž creature
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While yes it means a hybrid, it also implies it can change forms.

#

Does it have the ability to change into a toad?

#

From what I've seen no, so that's false advertisement as far as I know. ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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Lastly, if it was in fact some sort of creature that would turn you into one.. How did the toad infect a human? A bite? Poison coating? Some sort of measure unknown to us?

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I'm reading a bit too much into it, but you know, it's a were creature.

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And if you promise something you should deliver.

nova scaffold
#

Reminds me of Dwarf Fortress and fighting werepinguins ๐Ÿ˜„

wicked pebble
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Lmao

nova scaffold
#

I guees SpoungeBob is one of those

wicked pebble
#

I mean Spongebob is a shapeshifter, so maybe.

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But he does not originate from man

steep tree
#

I'm having an issue

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It won't let me add my PayPal account

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It won't let me add ANY paypal account

delicate dove
#

i'd contact the marketplace team.

wicked pebble
#

It happened to me. You need to use a card.

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MP Doesn't know why, and they can't pinpoint the issue.

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Wait, I thought it was saying your PP account was blocked from purchases

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No try to message MP like Yoeri said, sorry.

tiny stag
#

How long basically Support is answer? Anyone knows?

real dust
#

@little latch Am I right if I recall that you own LAM?

steep tree
#

Idk probably a lawng periollically tiem @tiny stag

little latch
#

@real dust yes

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it's definitely OK. however, tessellation and displacement mapping is inordinately expensive on larger terrains, so a great deal of it had to be gutted

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in the end the only thing i think we're still using is the skeletal structure of the material and the water caustics layer

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i wish tessellation and displacement didn't cost 20 fps...but it kinda does. in fact i can't find a single asset of any sort that i can use that feature with, not even props

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i tried it on a tree's bark. BOOM 20 fps gone

delicate dove
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<_<

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its so bad 80.lv wouldnt even make a post about it

wooden falcon
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lol

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if that's the case, how did they accept zeorb's supergrid?

wicked pebble
#

My question for that is the same.

real dust
#

What

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The fuck

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Why did they accept that duck then?

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Assholes

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See, if that was on the marketplace I'd buy it instantly

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I would've already, but I don't ahve a credit card, so I can't get it from gumroad ๐Ÿ˜›

oak fiber
#

So is this channel just a bitch on items Channel now that epic has left?

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Problem of the marketplace didn't just spring up it has always been that way

solemn prism
#

Honestly - Keep your problems between Epic and Yourself please. I am tired of reading about them. I just want to see cools stuff by awesome people.

wooden falcon
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it was a bitch on items channel when they were here, too ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

solemn prism
#

I am just tired of the bitching tbh

wooden falcon
#

...

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ooooorr...just don't read it? :/

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it's pretty easy to ignore stuff you're not interested in

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not trying to be a dick when I say that, btw

wicked pebble
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Yeah. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

#

Free speech btw if you wanna be a dick about it, go ahead. @oak fiber

wooden falcon
#

I feel like this channel is a valid place to note irregularities in the Marketplace

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considering Epic ignores us when we point them out directly ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

wicked pebble
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Yep.

wooden falcon
#

and sure, they say they don't listen anymore, but I bet a few of those Epic guys still check in on occasion

wicked pebble
#

So whoever wants to complain about complaining go ahead. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

solemn prism
oak fiber
#

well, cant imagine why Epic felt the need to leave.

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lel

wooden falcon
#

I'd imagine it was pressure from higher ups going "Why the fark are you wasting time listening to the same group of individual marketplace creators when we have a forums and ticket system?!"

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that and the fact that they put no resources into the MP

delicate dove
#

< bitches about whatever he wants :p

wicked pebble
#

Okay memes == valid criticism

wooden falcon
#

see? easily ignored ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

wicked pebble
#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

gloomy bramble
#

Suggestions for good tree packs?

heady moth
#

They should have trees

gloomy bramble
#

No way!

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๐Ÿ˜„

heady moth
#

Yeah, I think that's the most original tree pack ever

gloomy bramble
#

Ahh ok

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I have redwood forest

heady moth
#

I don't see a lot of asian settings, so that could be interesting

gloomy bramble
#

I need some like lower lying trees

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Some blossom trees

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๐Ÿ˜„

heady moth
#

Blossom trees are pretty

gloomy bramble
#

Would be hot

heady moth
#

Well I assume it's warmer in Asia than here atm

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But yeah, I think asian settings would be nice

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Or african

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Just not our-terrain trees

ebon leaf
#

I think he might have been asking for recommendations on which one to buy not to make? I dunno ๐Ÿ˜›

gloomy bramble
#

hahah

heady moth
#

Ah

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I knew that

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I totally knew

ebon leaf
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lol XD

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I second the vote for more varied tree packs from different parts of the world though. Excellent idea.

heady moth
#

I forget there are sometimes other people than ranting marketplace sellers in here :p

wooden falcon
#

you should buy my skull pack...I know they look like skulls, but they're trees, trust me :/

ebon leaf
#

lol

wicked pebble
#

Make a skull tree and I'll buy it ๐Ÿ˜‚

wooden falcon
#

the thought ocurred to me before :0

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not sure how i'd animate it though

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wanted to have skulls hanging down on ropes from the limbs, swaying to the breeze

flat schooner
#

Hello friends

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Can I ask you for RT?

ebon leaf
#

retweeted from both. Awesome video haha

flat schooner
#

thanks ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

shy phoenix
#

at what time does the marketplace update?

ebon leaf
#

around this time tomorrow I think

shy phoenix
#

awesome ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

ebon leaf
#

It does vary a bit depending on what Epic are doing/how busy they are I think

shy phoenix
#

gotcha, thank you!

ebon leaf
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No worries ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

real dust
#

The fact that Epic doesn't do anything with the feedback doesn't mean we should stop giving it

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That's like saying people should've stopped asking for Volumetric Lighting two years ago when it was backlogged for the second time

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That you don't get what you want doesn't mean you should let people do exactly what they want without opinionating

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(In my opinion)

harsh coral
#

I don't understand why PBR materials have to be on a block-out level design tool.. seems like a waste of resource if anything

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also I dont understand why everyone was promoting that produc so happily

wooden falcon
#

maybe they have some internal tool that autochecks materials to make sure they have all the PBR inputs

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and since it's part of their check list, they just go "nope, no PBR!"

harsh coral
#

yeah that's actually what i've been thinking, it couldn't be a sane human

wooden falcon
#

but if it returns "Duck" it's good

harsh coral
#

searching for animals i see no duck

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which is another thing that puzzles me

#

capable of making UE4 tech and not able to do a simple functional search / tag / keyword system...

wooden falcon
#

don't look too hard

harsh coral
#

in 2017

wooden falcon
#

what has been seen cannot be unseen

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the Duck

harsh coral
#

the UE MP feels to me like steam early days

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where only the select few get in their special boys club

#

and now look at steam.. you can put literally anything on it

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lol

#

yeah well the duck

wooden falcon
#

I mean, you can't buy marketing like that ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

harsh coral
#

i don't really see where the problem is, apart that it wont sell well because its a hard fit for any game

#

maybe if you're making a Five Nights At Freddy's kinda game it could be usefull ๐Ÿ˜„

wooden falcon
#

Maybe if it was a pack full of duck variants, it wouldn't be bad

harsh coral
#

i personally wouldn't put it on the marketplace

wooden falcon
#

but it seems to be pretty minimal effort

harsh coral
#

and my skills are below that

wooden falcon
#

well, yah...I couldn't make the Duck ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

#

lol

harsh coral
#

that's what a personal problem of mine with packs like these

#

just one or a few pieces

#

and most of the time you can't find the rest of the assets you need to fit the style

#

I was looking at your material pack a couple of times @wooden falcon

wooden falcon
#

oh no :/

#

lol

harsh coral
#

i like the first pack and the fact you updated them

wooden falcon
#

be back in a bit

#

gotta head home

harsh coral
#

ok np

wooden falcon
#

and thanks para ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

harsh coral
#

yeah, i'm def gonna get it next time

#

wish i had a bigger budget ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

tribal jackal
#

Ooh, a good pack would be a 'Small Insects & Animals pack', mostly used as background/small insects on the ground; like spiders, etc. It could come in handy when it comes to adding in details in environments

#

See if that duck was included in something like that, I'd definitely buy it

silent shoal
#

Little hint for everyone, who got rejected, because materials is not PBR: just connect scalar parameters with default values (like 0.5 to roughness or 0 to metallic) to all PBR inputs and it will solve an issue. When I was in process of publishing my first pack a year ago, I also got such comment from MP team and solved it like that. It useful, if you have a solid color material, for example.

oak thistle
#

I don't know much about materials at all, but that sounds like Epic requiring sellers to make their materials less performant in order to get accepted!

tiny stag
#

Did someone get any replies from Epic those days?

silent shoal
#

@fringe marlinrann#7656 I don't think that making a customizable scalar/vector parameter will affect a performance a lot. They want only PBR materials (which is fine) and it's a minor disadvantage to require this even for simple materials in order to execute a rule without any exceptions. Otherwise, I guess they will need more complex rules -> more time to check everything -> fewer assets to release.

harsh coral
#

+1 for insects & animals pack

#

butterflies, bees, grasshopers, ants, spiders, ... chickens, pigs, boars, cats, dogs, all kinds of common birds

#

strange lack of animals on the marketplace

delicate dove
#

a friend of mine wanted to do a small hand-drawn-ish critter pack. mostly really small things that dont require 3d. like ants, small spiders, etc.

harsh coral
#

yeah, can work well

#

I've seen cockroaches and ant's beeing made as an animated texture or with particles

delicate dove
livid crater
#

@harsh coral for animals would you go for stylized or you prefer realistic?

delicate dove
#

wouldnt be too hard to add simplistic animations to em. but actual movement would be overkill

harsh coral
#

I'd prefer realistic

#

I'd buy quality animals in an instant

#

since i can use them in so many situations

livid crater
#

isn't there one with foxes and bears

delicate dove
#

^ +1

harsh coral
#

there is, it's a bit expensive and it's only a few of the animals i'm after sadly

#

quality is good though

#

atm i'm sourcing them from turbosquid

#

results vary wildly

delicate dove
#

wildly is still an understatement hehe

harsh coral
#

hehe ye

#

can't really use them in a single game all together, but occasionaly I find use for them as bg elements for some renders (not game related)

#

@livid crater are you the guy who made the swan and hawk and others ?

livid crater
#

no

#

only animal i made was a dog and it was stylized and not for marketplace XD

#

oh and a sheep

harsh coral
#

a sheep would be nice also

fleet garnet
#

It seems like wait times for submissions got longer, my first plugin was processed in around 20 days but my new one is taking around a month and a half.

livid crater
#

oh noo, just made a submission 3 days ago ๐Ÿ˜ญ

harsh coral
#

basically domestic/farm/wild animals is what i'm looking for, mostly the common ones you can find all over the world, since i can use them the most

delicate dove
#

with basic animations. I dont expect them to do all the moves a real animal would do. additionally, an animation pack that extends on the basic animations..

#

i could see that sell rather well

harsh coral
#

yeah

#

i'm happy with basic set of animations

delicate dove
#

and again, an additional pack for stylized/toon versions of the animals

harsh coral
#

walk, run, idle, eat, attack if applicable

delicate dove
#

yea

harsh coral
#

it would make sense to split model + basic set and an additional set

#

some people might only need it for a bg element and dont require all the aditional animations

#

or any at all

#

.. oh and in the meantime if anyone considers buying stuff from turbosquid...

#

make use of their online help system, you can chat with someone and get them to open the file in 3dmax for you

#

and can answer questions provide additional screenshots

#

it's a must if you dont want to buy a cat in a bag

wooden falcon
#

man, that Synty guy must be making massive dollars on the MP, with all those neat stylized low poly packs

#

I just wish I was more creative...only thing I can think of is Stylized Low Poly Boxes

#

:/

harsh coral
#

lol

wicked pebble
#

@harsh coral and deaths.

harsh coral
#

here's my low poly non stylized stuff

#

and non PBR to boot

real dust
#

Thing is with that Synty guy's stuff

#

It's actually good

#

๐Ÿ˜›

harsh coral
#

yeah, it is, and it looks pretty

real dust
#

Most low-poly stuff is alright

#

And that's just

#

"Oh, can I play? :3"

harsh coral
#

i'm a sucker for nice stylized low poly stuff

#

and pixel graphics

#

bought a few games purely because of the nice pixel art or low poly aesthetics

#

maybe it's a bit to do with nostalgia since i started on those games

manic jasper
#

I buy games to look at the art all the time. lol

real dust
#

Same

#

Bought Abzu for that reason

#

Firewatch too

#

(Hated both of them besides the art)

#

Arma 3 Apex in part

wooden falcon
#

reason I buy most games is just to look

#

bought Rage just cause I wanted to see the landscapes

#

though lately I'm in a nostalgic mode and am playing old games from my childhood (Blood, Duke3d, Full Throttle)

#

modern games have a lot to learn from those older ones ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

wicked pebble
#

Starcraft is free, the original

wooden falcon
#

yah, saw that

#

new hd remake is looking good

#

well, not remake I guess...touch up more like it

wicked pebble
#

Is it? Lol feels the same

shy phoenix
#

is there a way to change the forum thread "pre-name" from [SUBMITTED] to [RELEASED], or do I need to make a new post?

heady moth
#

You need to ask a forum mod

#

@Esteves#9031

shy phoenix
#

how do you contact one? ๐Ÿ˜ƒ what's best way to reach them?

heady moth
#

On the right side of discord you see a few

#

you can msg them

shy phoenix
#

thank you ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

noble geyser
#

hi, for Europe, what is "Name of Tax Identification" more precise Romania if needed at all

shy phoenix
#

My marketplace item is showing up as "add to project" instead of "create project", trying to reach out to anyone from the marketplace team that can help out in fixing this issue

#

completely unusable at this point

#

since I'm using custom collision and input profiles

wooden falcon
#

contact marketplace-support email

#

they don't listen in on here anymore

manic jasper
#

why did they stop? did they give a reason?

wooden falcon
#

I blame Luos

#

j/k

#

no, they didn't really give a reason

#

just said they had to focus all their energies

manic jasper
#

did they even announce it?

wooden falcon
#

yes

#

looks like they deleted the thread though

delicate dove
#

<_<

manic jasper
#

Well one of our packs was supposed to come out today. But its nowhere to be found.

real dust
#

Whoopwhoop

#

๐Ÿ™ƒ

shy phoenix
#

managed to fix it, emailed support and was very surprised they replied in <2 h

leaden root
#

Where all the new products at, was only like half a page

tiny stag
#

For some reason iam waiting 3 days for answer now, how did u get it in 2 h =/

oak thistle
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@tiny stag In my experience, they prioritize things based partly on whether or not it's something they can easily answer right away.

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At least I hope that's their criteria.

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But yeah personally speaking, if I get an answer in 3 days I'm pleasantly surprised.

silver moat
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Old content are featured.

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New ones not.

ebon leaf
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they announced that the new content feature cycle was ending. Now they are featuring 3 new items, 3 epic picks and 3 others (could be random, might be themed, etc.)... looks like they removed that thread too though

fleet garnet
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Anyone has experience with Gumroad?

ebon leaf
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yerp

heady moth
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"The Unreal Engine marketplace, where moving backwards is the new forward! Sell your assets at us now to receive changes to our platform without us letting you know and in order to improve our servers we will gladly limit your accessibility to the platform!"

fleet garnet
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And how does Gumroad compare to MP?

heady moth
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haven't sold on gumroad so wouldn't know

ebon leaf
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How does it compare in what way?

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Feature wise it's light years ahead of the marketplace. Same with potential profit per sale. But the exposure is awful lol

fleet garnet
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That is kinda what I expected, thanks

ebon leaf
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No worries ๐Ÿ˜ƒ Sorry for the delays haha, was on my phone. If you want anything more specific, at my PC now ๐Ÿ˜›

fleet garnet
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Np, just wanted to see if it is a trusted site to sell stuff ๐Ÿ˜‹

ebon leaf
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haha definitely. Just make sure you put a licence on there to cover it as there's no automatically inherited one like there is on the marketplace

fleet garnet
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@ebon leaf Stupid question but where do I put the license?

ebon leaf
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Just in a text file with the download, or something on the product description, etc. Just so you are covered legally.

fleet garnet
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Ok, thanks. Never sold anything outside Ue4 MP...

ebon leaf
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yeah... MP makes it super easy in that regard ๐Ÿ˜›

oak thistle
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Honestly I have no clue what they're playing at. Putting up major changes in some forum thread without ever emailing sellers, then deleting the thread a couple of days later.

heady moth
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Marketplace 101

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They have the worst communicative skills

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I don't think they realize they're a public entity and just saying something and then deleting it is very bad practice

oak fiber
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Since when are they a public entity?

ebon leaf
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It's not deleted, just not stickied anymore so the marketplace forum section doesn't have too many sticky threads

oak fiber
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Dann it pepe! This room is only for bashing on things, not using your brain. How dare you take the time to actually go look instead of just spout and some s*** out of your mouth hole

ebon leaf
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sorry for that

oak thistle
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No apparently it's also for abusing people who are unsurprisingly fed up of continued incompetence and bizarre decisions, which seems to be the sum total of your contributions.

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And unstickying such a significant announcement so soon is effectively the same as deleting it. It means it goes by largely unnoticed by most sellers, which was the only point I was making.

oak fiber
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Well I'm glad you have my contribution summed up nicely for me thanks

heady moth
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public entity i mean that they're public and not hidden somewhere, a lot of people use the marketplace and what they do affects a lot of people including sellers and buyers so they have a public face

oak fiber
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Public facing businesses don't automatically become public. They offer you things in a public space there still a private companies so whatever they decide to do is their right to do. You all seem to be complaining about epic the company yet still Patron the company. That is indeed your right as a consumer. It is also your right as a consumer to complain about the company when they're doing practices you don't agree with.

The question is is it okay to only come here and b**** about the negative things? We don't all work in the marketplace we use this channel as a place to touch base with what's happening in the marketplace.

It has literally become such a b**** fast that it seems to have sparked epic to even just leave.

Everyone can play that out however they want but at the end of the day a company hearing nothing but negativity endlessly from a single outlet is probably going to stop listening to that outlet.

And while some of the concerns are legitimate a lot of it is mostly wrapped in noise and hyperbolic hate.

It also doesn't help that people don't understand how businesses work nor how they work differently between countries.

heady moth
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I am not talking about a public company, and this has nothing to do with different countries, the way they handle communication is just plain wrong.

oak fiber
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Then you should stick to that statement

heady moth
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What's happening is exactly what's being written

oak thistle
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Your description bears no resemblance whatsoever to how this channel has been for the past few months, and on Slack before it. It's far more likely that Epic left because they realized it just made far more sense to communicate through official channels.
Well anyway by far the most bitching and spouting has been coming from you, so I guess I'm gonna make you the first person I've ever bothered to block. Maybe if enough others do the same you'll take your desperate attention-grabbing moniker and flashing avatar and go attack people elsewhere.

oak fiber
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Actually that's exactly the description is channel ever since it started. I've been here and Slackers ever since day one

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So trying to tell me how it's been from your perspective is great and all but that's your perspective

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Just like when I laid out is my perspective.

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Not for nothing but there's only a seemingly a couple of you who seem to b**** about my bitching about you bitching

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So yeah maybe they can all block me feel free do what you need to do bro but at the end of the day epic isn't here you all keep bitching and a lot of people are tired of listening to it

wooden falcon
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that's such bullshit

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while there were complaints, all I ever saw was "you guys are great"

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no body was ever trashing on the Epic employees themselves

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well, I doubt Epic the "entity" decided "screw you guys, I'm going home!"

oak fiber
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Considering they said screw you guys we're going home.... lol?

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And nobody said employees. Epic the entity.

wooden falcon
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well, they basically said that it made no sense to sit in a channel and process random requests when they already have a forums and ticket system to handle that

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and I kind of agree on that point, even though it was nice to get immediate response

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but in the end, they were only serving a very small fraction of MP sellers who would come to this channel

fading swallow
harsh coral
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Well, offering free stuff is good marketing strategy anyway

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you'd be surprised how many offsers for paid work I got from stuff i released as public domain

lean venture
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Anyone here who has ever sold a plugin on the marketplace? I could use a bit of help with the final debug step. Thanks!

heady moth
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I have

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What's up?

lean venture
solemn prism
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YAY

wooden falcon
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cool

visual sierra
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didn't know about that plugin , amazing!

blissful plume
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instant bookmark

leaden root
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Yea I'm buying that haha

wicked pebble
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Very bloody nice

leaden root
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@lean venture Will you have an example of a simple dedicated game server with steam authentication and listed on the steam master server?

lean venture
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@leaden root I just dropped a link with 2 example projects, one of them being a server listed on the master server, but without authentication, just basic registration and updating with a unique ID generated based on time

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Check this post for the link if you want ^

leaden root
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Cheers thanks man

lean venture
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No problem. Also probably worth mentioning I've included the BPs for the client/server examples in the plugin. All you need to do is SpawnActor(ClientManager) or SpawnActor(ServerManager) @leaden root

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The client's interface and everything is included (except the 2 fonts + background image because I don't own a commercial license for those yet)

wooden falcon
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Epic's been a bit slow in updating packs lately

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they have something in the works? Like, the ability to sort alphabetically? j/k ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

heady moth
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They're too busy hiding our emails :p

wooden falcon
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lol

oak thistle
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So anyone know what the deal is with this info, was it announced somewhere?

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I only stumbled on the link on Twitter. Didn't even know this section of the website existed before.

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And the submission guidelines on forum/seller portal are unchanged...

silver moat
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@oak thistle Be happy with it...

oak thistle
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Well, I don't really mind either way, just wondering if they've even taken effect.

lean venture
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Assuming my product gets accepted and I get paid directly via bank account, how can I calculate the fee my bank is going to charge? From what I've learnt so far, I have to know which bank the money comes from (i.e. Epic's account) but I couldn't find the info on the internet. Thanks!

wicked pebble
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@lean venture That seems like something you need to talk with your bank and epic

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All banks differ on direct transfer fees.

harsh coral
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I wish epic had stricter rules for acceptance regarding BP's and code, now it appears as if they are super uptight regarding art assets and anything goes for BPs

viral zinc
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holy .. 90โ‚ฌ Steam api plugin o_o

harsh coral
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sounds promising

leaden root
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It is so worth the 90

sullen lion
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@harsh coral the trade off is that you gotta make a tut bp from what I've heard. Try making one of them.

harsh coral
sullen lion
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Oh that's your example?

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๐Ÿ˜†

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That's pretty bad but I'd argue that there's way worse out there

harsh coral
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something i got from the marketplace thinking i'd save on development time, and have a more proper system then if i'd make it myself.. cause someone who knows his stuff is doing this profesionally

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.. i know there's worse out there which is why i'm scared of buying and more bp's

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i can deal with a missing roughness map.. i can see it from the screenshots

sullen lion
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My personal favorite has seperate classes for something which should just be changing an int.

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But I can't really criticize it, because its not like BP never drops variable values

harsh coral
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there's a helper function which gets actors to ignore during raycasts, and it's used only once, the rest of the places have just the same duplicated code

gaunt flicker
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I'm going to need a high res of that grapth @harsh coral

harsh coral
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i made the low res on purpose since i dont want to point any fingers around to be mean

sullen lion
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And its prob frowned upon to show high res of MP pack nodes

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just sayin

harsh coral
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yeah

sullen lion
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I don't buy many BP MP packs these days, so I don't need to avoid that particular product especially

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But maybe let @gaunt flicker know in PM, seems like he wants to explore it or something

harsh coral
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Epic has a good philosophy with the engine of "eating their own dog food"

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wish marketplace assets were also more battel tested

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it's all fine and dandy in showcase maps, but when you put it into a real scenario things start to fall apart

sullen lion
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You considered hiring a freelancer to work on the game directly?

harsh coral
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no

gaunt flicker
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You're allowed to create non-interactive content from mp assets

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Which includes screenshots of graphs

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yolo

harsh coral
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I'm just gonna have to roll my own stuff out

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and stop looking to cut corners

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(in this instance)

sullen lion
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nice save

harsh coral
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๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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Allars generic shooter was a super helpful reference to get me up to speed on multiplayer stuff

sullen lion
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IDK if you've seen it, but Cedric's got a handy PDF pinned in the #multiplayer channel

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Not to diss GS or anything, but its a quicker reference than loading up UE4

harsh coral
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yeah i agree, but it was helpful to also see it practice

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i'm dabling with gamedev for years now, comfortable in most roles though i'm not really great at anything, but multiplayer and character modeling/animating is my weak spot

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I've made 1 turn based mp game prototype in the past

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this is my first time doing a full on mp game

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which is why i bought some mp enabled BP's to save on time and to learn from

sullen lion
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"MP Enabled" usually just means "Yeah things don't explode, and you can see something happen as a result of another person doing something"

harsh coral
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๐Ÿ˜„

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i'm starting to realize that nwo

ebon leaf
lean venture
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@wicked pebble That's exactly what I'm confused about. I'll rephrase: what am I supposed to ask for? who would be the person I should contact for the respective info? how do other people on the MP handle direct bank transfers from Epic? I can't believe I'm the only one contemplating direct account transfer

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direct transfer to my account* (as in: without PayPal)

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Or, in short: what are the pro's and con's for each of the 2 cases

gaunt flicker
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My bank doesn't charge a fee

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

lean venture
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I was under the impression they all do

livid crater
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Mine doesn't charge a fee either

gaunt flicker
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Theres usually a fee for sending, not for receiving

lean venture
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And I remember reading an article saying the fees can go up to 30%

fleet garnet
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mine takes 1$ on very 400$

livid crater
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they charge a fee for exchange rate conversion

lean venture
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I've never worked with bank transactions across the border, only "in-doors"

gaunt flicker
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Just walk into your bank and be like, yo, listen

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Ah, if you're doing a currency exchange

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then

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iunno

lean venture
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I intend to, on Thursday, but from what I've heard, they're going to ask me what bank is going to make the transfer, like who's going to pay me, because they have different fees

fleet garnet
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it is usually a very small fee

lean venture
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But I won't know anything more than that until Thursday so that's why I thought I might as well ask in here

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I'm not particularly interested in a currency exchange I guess

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  • there's another thing I'm brainstorming, but I doubt I'll find more info about it around here: I've also heard here and there that if I leave my money untouched in my PayPal account, I don't have to pay income taxes for it
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But as far as I know, that can be a very country-specific thing

wicked pebble
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It is very country specific

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And paypal is basically a virtual wallet.

lean venture
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@viral zinc @leaden root @harsh coral I intend to add a second module to the UWorks plugin, an OnlineSubsystemUWorks module which would implement Steam as an OS the way I believe it should be implemented. I don't agree at all with their current implementation

leaden root
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That sounds really nice

lean venture
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I don't agree with how they split their ThirdParty binaries and headers in 2 places either, but that's not in my power to change. The least I can do is have my own plugin self-contained

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Thanks! But I also intend to raise it to 110-120 after I add the OSU module and another utilities module or something

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Probably 110

harsh coral
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paypal is pretty country specific, but i think almost all countries would like you to report any income you get there to be a nice citizen.. though I think only a few are in a position to find out/do anything about it

lean venture
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Does anyone here have a clue about the average response time of the MP team when it comes to code plugins? Thanks in advance!

stark zinc
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When submitting a package, where do I provide a link to the zip file? On the marketplace submission page (https://publish.unrealengine.com/marketplace-submission) there is no textbox for the actual download link for the epic team. Neither is there any place to provide more than 5 screenshots, or the mandatory _featured and _thumb images. Are those things handled after I press the submit button?

lean venture
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@stark zinc Yes, after. Handled through a ticket mechanism powered by ZenDesk

stark zinc
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Ah, ok. Thanks.

lean venture
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Np. That's where I'm at as well

obtuse wren
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Could I share What I bought on the market place with my other Epic accout?

ebon leaf
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Why do you have two accounts?

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Technically, seeing as you are working on your own projects, it's okay to do ๐Ÿ˜›

wicked pebble
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technically

obtuse wren
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both are not MINE, but it's my coworker's one.
It's okay to do, like to connect on one account, dl the project, then connect on the other account and use it?
There is not an "automatic" way?

ebon leaf
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No automatic way no. But as long as you and your coworker are working on the same project it's oaky. You coworker cannot take the content and use themselves later for their own projects.

obtuse wren
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Okay good. He technically can't or legally can't? Use what I bought later?

ebon leaf
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Legally he can't use content you purchased for his own projects, only for projects involved with you.

obtuse wren
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ah okay!
Good, thanks ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

ebon leaf
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No worries ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

wooden falcon
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anyone been having trouble getting a response from marketplace-support lately?

ebon leaf
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like... more than usual or just the usual trouble? :p

lean venture
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@wooden falcon Yes, I've updated my ticket early Friday and I still haven't gotten a reply. It's almost as if they didn't work at all during weekend or on Labor Day ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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I actually wish I had any idea what their average response time was, for a code submission

ebon leaf
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they don't work on weekends or holidays ๐Ÿ˜›

lean venture
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What a surprise lol

wooden falcon
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their response time has usually been pretty good...but not lately (at least in my experience)

tiny stag
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Same here, waiting for answer 3 weeks already

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4 week just started

modern perch
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there seems to be something going on with the Marketplace at the moment, but I couldn't say what it is

delicate dove
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guess we will have to wait it out a bit

wooden falcon
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hopefully it's not like "We're closing the Marketplace"

wooden falcon
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hmm, Adam's right on top of sale requests though...put in a request for sale this morning, and he already sent me the email saying he set it up

tiny stag
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Hm

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Idk what happen but i hope all going to be fine, just need to wait

wicked pebble
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How odd.

tiny stag
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Sad that there is no more official answers on this channel

tiny stag
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Did someone ask Support what happens with Marketplace?

silver moat
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They are working on making things more transparent with the community.

tiny stag
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Ahh, i see, thanks

wooden falcon
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lol

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was that sarcasm?

silver moat
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I don't know...

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They said they have been working on making things more transparent with community.

elfin plinth
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@ebon leaf @obtuse wren it's not as black and white like that if it's a code plugin

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and I don't think even sellers know the correct terms

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EULA mentions that code plugins are or can be per seat

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but it's really oddly put

stark zinc
wooden falcon
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cool

tiny stag
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@stark zinc Cost?

stark zinc
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I submitted it as 35 USD

tiny stag
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Looks really nice

delicate dove
tiny stag
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Intresting how long u will wait for Epic reply

delicate dove
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@white osprey since the marketplace voting thing is gone now, whats gonna happen with the star-thingy for the marketplace badge?

white osprey
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I'll talk with the team about how we want to give those out going forward

delicate dove
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can I have a forum-bug report badge? :p

white osprey
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"Epic's Little Helper" badge

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lol

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Thanks a lot though, really appreciated the help

delicate dove
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np ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

rotund schooner
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magic @white osprey