morning
#fab
flat schooner
jovial thunder
Hello ๐
flat schooner
how's yours sales going?
jovial thunder
7 sales today ๐ Really curious how the rest of the sales period is going to pan out
ebon leaf
24 hour delays is painful ๐
jovial thunder
Very :p
Hard to guess whether I will total more sales this time around than the last event sale, but I'd say no
ebon leaf
I think we will all likely have less... too soon after. But then its longer so... who knows
jovial thunder
Yeah
ebon leaf
haha nice Congrats
plain swallow
Are HDRI's any usefull?
brazen forum
Reporting back here for anyone that cares. That HammUEr tool is awesome. It does exactly what it says. I only tested with very simple maps but lets you build maps in hammer and then quickly import into Unreal Engine. Then if you make changes you can import again and it doesn't duplicate meshes. So happy now. I missed Hammers brush tools for roughing things out.
I mapped the default hammer texture to the grid one but you can also have it convert directly or do a 1:1 mapping if you import the materials.
zealous ibex
Ooooh cool
ebon leaf
hmm nice. That opens up heaps of other options too... like mapping things in various editors, importing them into hammer, then over to ue and that haha.
zealous ibex
Wait would that even allow for working in let's say the steam SDK and porting it over to ue4? ๐ฎ
ebon leaf
isn't Hammer the valve level editor? ๐ so... yes? ๐ only for maps though
zealous ibex
Sorry xD
ebon leaf
haha no need to apologise ๐ I was asking - afaik Hammer is the valve level editor for the source sdk
silver moat
Sale stats are very interesting ( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
zealous ibex
I got none 
shell jacinth
what even is hammer?
silver moat
Hammer is even what.
flat schooner
This is something http://i.imgur.com/N7TWe35.png
zealous ibex
lol
flat schooner
Is Zireael anagram for Alireza?
shell jacinth
nope
flat schooner
It is to me ๐ ๐ ๐
delicate dove
hey @proven lily you might want to use soundhound/shazam on that 1 dollar music pack. a dj-friend of mine recognised some of the songs from other dj's but no mention whatsoever about them in the pack, or on the websites supplied on the marketplace page.
and I find that a tad odd to say the least.
ebon leaf
inb4 everyone downloads and backs up that pack
delicate dove
also rather odd that the songs shazam recogs arent mentioned by name in the tracklist on the marketplace
cc-ing @sleek egret as well
also rather funny you can hear a def. quality difference in the music shazam doesnt recog. vs the ones it does
plain swallow
Aww, to good to be true
Hopefully it gets sorted out soon, might be good to keep quiet about it otherwise to prevent to many people downloading and backing up as pointed out. Good to support the real content creators
delicate dove
didnt shazam all songs, but author/titles not mentioned:
Tu 2 - Turbogaz
Splash (club mix) - Double energy
Angels we have heard on high - chris Rice
Azufre (original mix) - Wally Stryk & Javier Misa
I remember it differently - Near the parenthesis
Darkside - Paschalle Dolle
hahaha
some of these songs are more expensive than that whole pack
so my best bet atm that the "year in the making" comment kinda is a "a year in the pirating"
modern perch
Figures -_-
delicate dove
hmm one seems to be a kylie minogue song without the singing
jovial thunder
As I am thinking about buying it :p
zealous ibex
Wasen't it unavailable?
delicate dove
shazam is odd though, there are instances where it gives multiple songs for the same piece of track.
but i'll leave that research to the marketplace team
delicate dove
yup
jovial thunder
Hopefully they can check it out before they are gone for Christmas break :p
zealous ibex
It's gone up in price ^^
jovial thunder
How so?
jovial thunder
I think it was
modern perch
yeah, the price has changed
zealous ibex
Dang it
modern perch
it was ยฃ0.95 yesterdat
zealous ibex
Anyhow I'm buying it before it's gone ๐
modern perch
but if it's pirated, it doesn't matter anyway
zealous ibex
That's my problem, what if it's pirated, will we get a refund?
jovial thunder
Yes
zealous ibex
Okay buying then ^^
@delicate dove Imma claim that 1.15 back, even if it's the last thing I do
ebon leaf
it was the sidescrolling template that was 40 cents not the music pack
modern perch
the music pack was ยฃ0.95 yesterday
jovial thunder
If it is pirated, it will be removed. If it is removed, they can't offer support. If they don't offer support, you get a refund. ๐ You'd get a refund indirectly even if piracy does not guarantee one
modern perch
it's listed as ยฃ28.36 now, however
zealous ibex
nuuuu
ebon leaf
?? it shows USD $1 for me
jovial thunder
List price != sale price ๐
ebon leaf
zealous ibex
Dang it!
modern perch
it's showing up as discounted to ยฃ28.36 from ยฃ29.31
zealous ibex
I need to have spare credit
ebon leaf
it says you SAVE 28.36
modern perch
OH
jovial thunder
Yeah
modern perch
hahaha
ebon leaf
๐ because you've already bought it it doesn't show the price lol
modern perch
not the best UI xD
zealous ibex
๐
ebon leaf
your poor browser XD
jovial thunder
I used to do that :/ Now I keep 6-7 open
zealous ibex
I am referencing a tonne of articles on the c++ API, sorry
ebon leaf
I might have about 20 open at once SOMETIMES... but they will be spread across 4 monitors and it's just cause I forgot about them ๐ usually its 3-6 lol
haha XD just thought it was funny
delicate dove
midomi cant find any of the song-pieces though, and my phone doesnt install soundhound for some reason
ebon leaf
not having looked into ti at all... is it possible this is just a Matrix / ExistenZ / 13th Floor situation? ๐
zealous ibex
yay bought the pack โค
delicate dove
the one song my buddy recogged def is the same, but with shazam being very unaccurate
ebon leaf
fair enough. They certainly need to look into it for sure then
You really need a "marketplace police" badge or something man @delicate dove
delicate dove
nah
zealous ibex
Jeez the pack is 3.8GB
ebon leaf
better turn on turbo mode on the router to get it before epic pull it ๐ lul
zealous ibex
My internet isn't too abundant tho ๐
ebon leaf
eh, 1.4mb/sec still beats a lot of other connections haha
ebon leaf
ah yeah... that blows for sure haha
zealous ibex
It's been out like half of yesterday & $hit
jovial thunder
I live in a small town in the middle of nowhere. If the town hall or something is using up the internet, the town slows down ๐
ebon leaf
lol... ouch
jovial thunder
Oh, and there are bandwidth limits, so the internet is awful at the beginning of the month
modern perch
I live next to one of the UK's banking districts, so my Internet connection is off the hook ๐
zealous ibex
๐
ebon leaf
Yeah bandwidth limits are still super common here (Australia)... so glad I got on a fibre connection (which is a big deal here) and found a good isp that is unlimited XD
jovial thunder
Well, we have 115 down, 3 up (though not the most reliable in the world). I'd happily trade that in for 50 down, 10 up
Large uploads with say Perforce tend to halt mid-way through
zealous ibex
Just wondering, can I use assets bought on the MP for any purpose I desire? (as long as i am not redistributing/doing illegal stuff etc)
modern perch
in most cases, yes
ebon leaf
what is the purpose? ๐
jovial thunder
Depends on the product license
modern perch
but always check the license
jovial thunder
It can vary by product
jovial thunder
Excellent question
Epic asked me about licensing for my plugin, but I don't know what they did with the information I gave them
ebon leaf
I was under the impression all marketplace content was under the same license? Pretty sure that was in the contract we had to sign as a seller.... (though plugins are perhaps an exception - they seem to be a lot of exceptions lol)
zealous ibex
I mean I'd love to know if I can use this mega music pack in a video I am working on ๐
I mean that would make sound sourcing soooo easy
ebon leaf
not if it's pirated you cant ๐
zealous ibex
This legally bought mp asset pack ๐
jovial thunder
๐คฆ
ebon leaf
yeah ๐ but if the author pirated the content then you can't use it lol
zealous ibex
Oh like that ๐
jovial thunder
It's up to you to make sure content you use it licenses properly
Not the person who sells it to you
zealous ibex
Hm
ebon leaf
if it turns out and that is wrong... then you can use music in videos and that
at least AFAIK... I know lots of people do lol
zealous ibex
I'll wait for the outcome of this dear is this pirated? thing then ๐
jovial thunder
Typos :p
jovial thunder
cya
zealous ibex
Ummmm...okay
ebon leaf
...you pirated the pirated content before you bought it ๐
ebon leaf
guessing epic staged the proejct wrong then and a file is being overwritten. Not a big deal unless it's something important haha
proven lily
Hey @zealous ibex That warning appears generally when Starter Content is in both the downloaded pack and the project being downloaded to. Try adding it to a clean, blank project with no additional content. Do you still see this warning message?
zealous ibex
aha that's probably it ๐
It wasen't a real big issue, it was just an annoyance, but I'll create a new project once my computer unfreezes itself ๐
wicked pebble
Interesting.
proven lily
Yes, it shouldn't harm anything and the files can be easily overwritten with the new starter content.
zealous ibex
Aren't you supposed to remove the startercontent when you submit then?
ebon leaf
@wicked pebble it was a joke about the conversation above in which someone has shared information that suggests that some of the content in that music pack that @zealous ibex was talking about may have been stolen
zealous ibex
I went through a tonne of effort to remove it for me ๐
silver moat
I don't wish to not provide support for the packages but sometimes I.Don't.Have.A.Clue as to what I should say in response.
zealous ibex
Same
silver moat
zealous ibex
Tho I haven't gotten any MP I need support emails really, people can be soo vague and demanding
jovial thunder
I know the feeling
silver moat
zealous ibex
Well i guess you landscape isn't big enough ๐
And GG, people are demainding
Just like people want equipment systems with an inventory?
That's like a totally different thing, so now I'll end up spending nearly all holiday adding that in lol
jovial thunder
You're adding it in because a customer demanded so?
jovial thunder
:p
zealous ibex
๐
Nah but only because someone said in the replies of my MP asset
Doubt they even bought my asset LMAO
But yeah @jovial thunder I am adding it because a potential customer demanded so ๐
jovial thunder
๐คฆ
zealous ibex
I know, you want to kill me ๐
I guess it's better than when I did stuff like taht for my free assets ๐
jovial thunder
Even worse :p
delicate dove
O_o hehe @silver moat maybe I should buy your package and demand you make me a full blown shmup according to a gdd thas 100 pages.
zealous ibex
๐
silver moat
@delicate dove Maybe I should refund you.
zealous ibex
Ugh are do this or 1 star threats a real thing on the MP or is it a bit more sane there?
delicate dove
im sure there is always that one guy/girl
silver moat
It's real.
At least that's something when they say do this or else.
But there are instances where you get downvotes/bad ratings without having heard anything from anyone.
ETs downvoting hoomans
zealous ibex
๐
wicked pebble
@zealous ibex whoa equipment too?
elfin plinth
I like the "make it editable" part though
zealous ibex
@wicked pebble I'm working on that. The first thing I am trying to complete however is a redisign of the API sothat it allows for external arrays to work. This could allow for drag and drop crafting, chests etc ๐
ebon leaf
@zealous ibex inventories suck so much ๐ I'm so sick of working with mine haha
zealous ibex
ha ha, same
But what potential customers want i guess ๐
I mean it isn't like I can actually start work on a proper game until I get a new computer, so I can spend all mah time on it ๐
ebon leaf
I wish I could have not included one in the template ๐ but... using hunger items and so on don't really work without an inventory haha
ebon leaf
nah... already finishe dthe inventory a while ago... it's a detailed/extensive one because otherwise people complain ๐
zealous ibex
๐
I think my inventory cost me if I include previous prototypes ~200 hours
Give or take a few
ebon leaf
yeah I have no idea on hour count... but it wouldn't be far off that. If not more because I did an equipment system and chests and all that too haha
but... a lot of the template kinda 'plugs in' to the inventroy so it was important haha
I am super glad UE4 doesn't have a hour counter like steam. I don't WANT to know that shit lol
ebon leaf
haha thanks
silver moat
@elfin plinth Is editable.
ebon leaf
@silver moat am I correct that you are the author of Affordable Landscapes, both Infinite and #2?
I seem to remember that you are, but not sure if Alireza == Maximum-Dev == Pixel Perfect Polygons XD
tall helm
Gotta work on that brand consistency ;)
silver moat
@ebon leaf Yes.
wicked pebble
I mean
If you plug in UE4 into steam
Steam'll keep track
of how many hours
๐
jovial thunder
I have always wanted to be able to track my hours in UE4
wicked pebble
Well you have a solution now
I'm thinking of keeping this bad pair-up, just for how it kinda looks.http://gph.is/2is7nhb
gaunt flicker
Has anyone been contacted by a random company about reselling someones assets
wicked pebble
What
scarlet wave
Merry Christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ebon leaf
Anyone in here a linux user?
brazen forum
@ebon leaf I am, I'm doing my dev on Windows though.
ebon leaf
@brazen forum are you able to access marketplace content for download on Linux?
brazen forum
I haven't tried installing Unreal on my Linux box
I know from the browser where I have bought stuff it points you to the app download to install, but i don't recall seeing a Linux version of it
ebon leaf
Hmm okay. Just had someone email me claiming they bought one of my packs and can't download because of Linux. I'll be waiting for epic to confirm their purchase anyways, but was wondering if it's a legit issue or not.
brazen forum
I can try to install it on Linux in the next few days. 3:30 am for me so I need to get to bed and then family stuff for me tomorrow cause of some holiday ๐
Merry Christmas, I'll try to install it on Maybe monday or tuesday
ebon leaf
Haha no worries. No stress either way.
zealous ibex
It is a legit issue
You need to download marketplace items through the epic games launcher, and you don't have that on linux. You merely have the option to compile the engine from source @ebon leaf
Atleast when I last checked like a week ago ๐
ebon leaf
Yeah, zeOrb just said the same in the forums... that's nuts. Poor linux users lol
They should enable the option to download via the website
zealous ibex
Way to easy to fraud I guess
I mean now it gets installed into your game folder, otherwise you'd just get a zip
ebon leaf
true, though that's not hard to take advantage of either ๐
zealous ibex
But yeah cuz of this and adobe and lack of a proper code editor with ue4 autocomplete linux isn't too nice for gamedevs rn ๐ฆ
ebon leaf
crazy. Thought there was a big push for gaming centric stuff in linux lately haha. Guess not from the business side of things
zealous ibex
I would love more linux support ๐
wicked pebble
@zealous ibex everyone would.
zealous ibex
Tell that to apple ๐
wicked pebble
Even though I use an iPhone and love how risky and innovative they are... ๐๐ฝ them
I love Linux as it has been, and will continue loving them. They are the best for everything :I
(I use an iPhone because it wa the cheapest)
zealous ibex
๐
ebon leaf
I like linux, but don't use it because of issues like the epic marketplace stuff being super common everywhere haha
zealous ibex
I love linux, just the absence of a few key programs makes not able to use it ๐ญ
flat schooner
Morning
How is your sales going?
It goes down from the first to now, but i think its normal.
Whats your experience?
I am talking bout christmas sale.
zealous ibex
I got 0 sales ๐
What about you @flat schooner did your amazing video draw in some customers? ๐
zealous ibex
I have no need for audio rn, sorry
WHat I meant is how did the sales go for you, and do you think your sales video will draw in customers?
flat schooner
1st day 28, 2nd 19, 3rd 10, 4th 7 items sold
Did my video affect my sales its hard to say, it is imposible to measure it, i broken my another dimension transporter.
zealous ibex
Nice ammount of sales tho ๐
sly shoal
hi everyone....i was planning to start making some characters for the marketplace...i've always been a 3d modeler but never really did animations so i was wondering if they are required to be shipped with custom animations
ebon leaf
There are a lot of assets on the marketplace without anims I believe. The ones with anims do a lot better, but there are definitely a lot of weapons and such that do okay without animations. I haven't seen any characters without animations, but the submission guidelines don't specify that they need to have animations as long as they are rigged appropriately.
sly shoal
i see...thanks
ebon leaf
there's the guidelines if you want to look at them yourself ๐ You can always rig them up to the Epic skeleton and use the animations included in the engine and the anim starter pack to demo the character that way ๐
sly shoal
ah thanks a lot, that's very helpful
too bad that the animation starter pack only has fps-like animations
i mean firearms type of weapons
ebon leaf
Yeah. It's a little frustrating haha
ebon leaf
lol I love the way that Adam said "we extended the sale..."... wasn't it ALWAYS going to be 2 weeks? ๐
zealous ibex
^
scarlet wave
@ebon leaf your always such a stickler for the details!!!!!!!! I'll bet you read the fine print in a contract too!
ebon leaf
lol
scarlet wave
but can I add to the list? hmmmmm, huh huh huh huh huh!
Like a Seller/Vendor, should know who their customers are?
I know I know, a radicale thought, and for that one should burn at the stake, heat up the tar and pluck the chickens!
but I really cannot imagine, a company that doesn't know who their customers are
zealous ibex
Why would you even want to know who your customers are? ๐
I mean a way to verify if an email is actually one of your sellers yourself may bee handy, but other than that
ebon leaf
I'd like to be able to sent out updates to customers from time to time... give them an option to opt out if necessary/desired
zealous ibex
aha that would be cool
But wouldn't it be better to have that from the MP panel, I mean I would personally rather not have sellers know I have bought their specific pack etc ๐
Not out of distrust, but I mean the less people know my email, the less chance for spam
ebon leaf
I don't think it's necessary... other marketplaces allow you to see your customer's email. But yes, I would be fine with an ability to, via the marketplace, contact everyone.
scarlet wave
I think it's very necessary to know who one's custoemrs are, in order to build a repore with them. If one doesn't wish a seller to know, that is fine too, just that the first time support is asked for, it will be slower, till the person requesting support can be validated, hence if Epic were to give out the transaction number, then it could still be quick. Secondly, I would much rather be the one to send out any updates to my products. I do this in other venues, so it's certainly not rocket science. Would I still want the updates to go through Epic? of course, but for those customers that opted in, to receive updates, I would rather get it to them, post haste.
as well as, customers that like to work with a vendor, are the prime candidates for any Gamme, Alpha, or Betas for new products (again so long as they are interested in the new product, or new features). It's been this way in the software industry, since I can remember.
and as I am a old bastage, I can remember a lot
@zealous ibex chuckles, as to email? I have one that I never give out except to people I know, and over the years? eh, probably 40 email accounts out there floating around somewhere, getting all the spam
lmao
zealous ibex
๐ same. Just I have like 1 account that's tied to my ue4 account, which I actually actively use
scarlet wave
same here, but I find google chrome to be pretty good about filtering the crud out
I know personally, when I buy something off the marketplace, as a customer, I like to tell the vendor, that I purchased their product, and see how they respond. To see if they ask questions, "how do you like it? I just put in feature X, did you use it? What features would you like to see?"
again, it all goes back to repore and building the business
zealous ibex
Yeah like that I would see the use
wicked pebble
Interesting ideas ๐ฎ
jovial thunder
Big marketplace project reveal coming sometime around this week (I hope ๐ )
zealous ibex
Cool ๐
wooden falcon
ugh, why does the marketplace dashboard keep signing me out
zealous ibex
rip
rare lynx
@jovial thunder Can't wait! While you've been working on your big project, I managed to gain a slight lead on your forum post count btw. ๐
zealous ibex
๐
proven lily
Hey @wooden falcon I've been trying to look into this but haven't been able to reproduce it on my end, do you have specific steps I can take to recreate the error?
humble stag
@proven lily I had the the same logout error last week on my cell phone and pc, but it has not occurred the last past two days, It happened randomly when going between forums.unrealengine.com and www.unrealengine.com.
ebon leaf
yeah last week I would be logged out upon visiting any epic site the first time that day. hasn't happened this week though
it's like the sessions were being cleared repeatedly
proven lily
When you were switching, were you switching between two tabs/sessions or was it one tab that you were switching between the sites on?
humble stag
On pc I usually have multiple tabs open, but on cell phone, only one at the time.
so, both
I'm trying to trigger a logout now, opening pages from my cell and pc at the same time, but I cant get the bug now.
brazen forum
@flat schooner I'm using physical materials for https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/20-gun-impact-particles here. I'm curious if I buy your Footstep sounds would they share the same kinda materials I have already assigned to objects? If they don't is there just a big table I would need to go in to update or map the sounds to what materials?
I would think metal is metal when assigning a physical material to the engine but I don't totally know how that all works.
flat schooner
@brazen forum it is setup in project settings
If they are the same it should work, if not you have to change footsteps setup 20 gun setup
brazen forum
@flat schooner Thanks so I think I just need to make them match then
So is there a big table in the Footstep pack I would just need to update?
flat schooner
Most of them should work if it's not capital letters sensitive
but I have only 8 surface
Shouldn't be much work
flat schooner
no problem
brazen forum
@flat schooner I got it working, great tutorial too btw! ๐ฏ
silver moat
Hello
scarlet wave
@silver moat howdy hi!
silver moat
@proven lily CrashA51 was writing absolutely nonsense comments on one of our package pages for a couple days. I replied him with facts, tests and images showing the public what he's been writing wasn't true. I even asked @ebon leaf to test the package and performance and post his results. Anyway, he removed his comments, and with that, all my replies and tests I did for him, and @ebon leaf results were removed too. But now again he's went all out to just hurt our sales during this holiday sale.
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/infinite-affordable-landscapes
I'm reporting him here in hopes of getting the last 4 comments removed. And he'd be very welcome to write anything he wants on the support thread where I can reply him with solid data without him being able to remove the posts.
But as it is, what he's written there is going to scare every potential client away without any reason and I really don't want to fuel it in front of public by making 4-5 replies to his 4 comments.
silver moat
flat schooner
@brazen forum thanks I do my best ๐
rare lynx
@silver moat Be sure to send an email to marketplace-support@unrealengine.com about this as well. That way it won't fade away on the chat here. I had a similar experience like this in the past and the staff was very good about handling it. It's a shame the lengths some people go to hurt sellers. Especially those who make their livelihood off of the marketplace.
It's one thing to provide critical feedback, it's another to spam a product page. Hopefully the customer can formulate their critique in a manner that would actually contribute to the improvement of the product, rather than to erode the reputation of a seller.
silver moat
@rare lynx Hi Jon, Sure. Thanks for the tip. I'll send the email now.
Btw he's not a new customer. He has posts on the related thread months old. He had no issues for months up to a couple days ago where he started this. I don't know what has triggered him to try to insult me and hurt the sales. But what I'm worried about is all the potential buyers I'm losing all of today especially now that it's the holiday sale.
If I could get an immediate response form staff that'd be nice.
rare lynx
It looks like he's trying to use the content with VR, judging by a comment of his.
Which would explain the performance dip
But the pack isn't marketed for VR, so if that is truly the cause he can't really fault you for that
Make sure to provide an appropriate heading in the email letting the staff know it's urgent. That should get their attention
IIRC the marketplace team is off from work by now, but Stephanie has contacted me late at night on occasion when the situation is urgent. Hopefully you'll hear back no later than tomorrow.
silver moat
I hope so. Tagging @sleek egret here in case others were away.
Anyway thanks for the help Jon.
See you around.
rare lynx
Anytime, see you around!
zealous ibex
@Alireza#3139 downvoted, who tf does that person think he/she is?!
silver moat
@zealous ibex What he's reffering to as "Fanboys" is actually anybody who is happy with the product.
Last night I gifted a free copy to @scarlet wave and asked him to post his results "whether good or bad".
If I wanted any fanboys there I'd have approached this differently and he would have had ~200 downvotes by now. ๐
scarlet wave
Yeppers, and I got it, fell asleep before I could really use it
but running around in the demo, looked frigging gorgeous to me
saw a couple that I will probably purchase, for my own game
@silver moat
<=============== Ali's newest Fan Boy
lmao
silver moat
He keeps making new comments and insults me.
Price wise, $100/14= $7 per landscape.
With this 50% OFF it's $3.5 per landscape.
Let alone the 4 new landscapes that are coming with next update.
So I don't know why he's keep saying not worth the price.
scarlet wave
@silver moat I think it's best if you walk away from this, and let it go, if Epic will not pull the comments, because they are baseless (everything negative he has had to say is OPINION, it's not emperical fact). Then you may wish to get into a war with him
but for some reason, he has singled you out
even when I replied about his comment having absolutely nothing to do with the product, beyond wanting to be impressed with himself, that he could post
the most he called me was a fan boy
but you, he keeps going after
as if you got his sister pregnant, and refuse to admit it
@silver moat It just feels to me, as I said in my post, he's out for blood/vendetta in some fashion, and he's not going to stop. So you need to defuse the situation, and give him nothing to battle against
I'm going to try to go into a new project with one of the landscapes, and use IwSpline to generate about 5000 objects (take like 5 minutes), and then give some actual numbers
ebon leaf
I'd agree. See if Epic will do anything, but if not, just walk try and let it go and ignore it, as hard as that is. Your product is sweet, eventualyl there will be enough nice comments to cancel out his shit
silver moat
Alright I'm not going to respond anymore.
I'm going to defuse it like this:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WuivyzX0X2k/maxresdefault.jpg
ebon leaf
hhaha
buoyant cradle
Do people buy Sound FX on the marketplace? :3
I'm hesitating to buy Sound FX, because I have no idea what I'm paying for. Was way easier to buy a music pack, since people can upload the whole song without any annoying background noise.
Really difficult for Sound FX sellers to protect themself, because you know, stealing a 1 second music clip is pretty easy, so I can understand the protection, but in the end, the customer has no idea what's in the pack...
Also pretty much impossible to give the right preview for a 1k sound files pack ๐
delicate dove
personally I'd never use a regular sound-pack as is, I dont care much for sounds during vert-slices, (unless.. ofcourse sound is really needed) so I'd combine whatever sounds there are to make something new.
in that case, a cheap soundpack can be nice for "kit bashing"
whenever I write kitbashing I think of
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/17/11/c2/1711c260db1252e6413b2daa4641d754.jpg
buoyant cradle
oh, I was thinking about Skyrim Kit Bashing quality
delicate dove
that'be fine if it has sounds in themes you are interested in
buoyant cradle
it has, but god damn it, 1k sounds, guy gives me a 1min preview (out of 90min) and it has background noise, so it sounds the noises he wants to sell me could actually fit ๐
delicate dove
hehe
proven lily
Hi everyone, quick update from yesterday. We were able to reproduce the login error that has been occurring. It is now in our system as OPP-6531.
ebon leaf
@proven lily excellent. Did you look into @silver moat 's issue above with commentors?
proven lily
We are looking into it, however I won't be discussing the results here.
ebon leaf
That's understandable. Just wanted to make sure someone was taking a look at it at least ๐
flat schooner
Hey
I was wondering how place on pages on sales event impact our sales
@delicate dove your 4 elements are on 2nd page
mine footsteps are on 3rd
flat schooner
can you tell me your sales?
delicate dove
15 sales on 4 elements, 11 particle vol. 1 packs, and 5 cave packs
flat schooner
from the 22 DEC?
delicate dove
yup
silver moat
Good morning @proven lily , If anything needed to be cleared up feel free to message me. I'll be around.
delicate dove
@silver moat you still didnt make my game for me :p
silver moat
@delicate dove Please give me another chance to make a game for you before asking for a refund. ๐ฆ
delicate dove
:p
flat schooner
@delicate dove how much did you sale on cyber monday?
ebon leaf
if it doesnt get 600fps on vr... then you should ask for a refund @delicate dove
silver moat
Cyber Monday was really impressive indeed.
This December is officially having the most sales for us in the whole marketplace time. I'm certain it has been the same for almost everyone.
Except music sellers. ๐
delicate dove
first two months of publishing my cavepack was the best for me
man that sold like hot buns on a cold tuesday
but that was during early marketplace era
flat schooner
I didn't take part in Cyber Monday coz I don't know the idea of Cyber monday
I was born Communist...
So please don't tell me how Cyber Monday was awesome
silver moat
@proven lily And there he posted another comment claiming none of the landscapes are playable.
I know you're busy. I avoid writing more replies there. But we're losing every potential buyer.
Would be really appreciated if you can make a decision about it faster.
Thanks.
flat schooner
Hey @proven lily is order of assets on event sale is random?
brazen forum
@buoyant cradle @ebon leaf not sure which one you used cause I'm on mobile. I use sounds from the marketplace. I bought that large sound pack a while back that has the blue cover. I think it's called pro sounds collection. I'm very happy with it. One thing it doesn't have that I need to find are some good death sounds. Mostly have only found scream packs.
proven lily
Hi @flat schooner currently the system is set to a top down approach, so the first on the lists appear first on the page and so forth. We are aware that visibility is a concern and we are working on methods to improve this.
@silver moat I'll respond to your ticket now
flat schooner
3 of 4 my assets are on first 5 pages so for me this order is fine ๐
ebon leaf
@proven lily but how is the list created? First on the list doesn't mean much when the way the list is made isn't shared XD
proven lily
Currently, this is on a first come first serve basis, so those emails that we received in response to the holiday sale invitation first were the earliest on the list, and it was populated from there.
However, as I said previously we are looking into some alternative options, once we have more information to share we certainly will, but this is all I have at present.
delicate dove
Currently, this is on a first come first serve basis, so those emails that we received in response to the holiday sale invitation first were the earliest on the list, and it was populated from there.
thats a bit odd, when Ive seen a variety of packs from the same user ranging as much as first page all the way to close to last.
proven lily
There are a few outliers, and some were entered later than others based on release dates, sales percentages, updates, requests, etc. There are a number of factors at play but the core principle is the same
buoyant cradle
@brazen forum I actually bought the other good one "Universal Sound FX" on a Unity Sale, but this time I'm looking for computer/ sci fi sounds, something specific for a small project. "Digital" caught my ear, but it's difficult to say if it has the type of sounds I need. Dayum, might be easier to find some guy who can do sounds.
brazen forum
There is this really good digital sound pack but its $50 I think. Let me find you a link
buoyant cradle
Please tell it's from ESM, please tell it's from ESM, please tell it's from ESM ๐
brazen forum
THey don't sell it in the marketplace but I want an excuse just to use this pack it sounds so awesome
They have some other assets in there though
rare lynx
@proven lily There seems to be a bug with the compatibility on one of my products. Despite it having been marked for 4.14 for over a month, a user just notified me that it isn't showing up for 4.14, it only goes to 4.13. I'm not sure how long that's been, but reapplying the compatibility in the seller profile isn't updating the product page. Can you see what's going on please?
brazen forum
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/SoundMorph <- Those ones are all pretty good.
@buoyant cradle Users of tomorrow might have what you are looking for
proven lily
Which pack is it @rare lynx? I'll be happy to take a look and see what's going on
rare lynx
@proven lily Thank you, here's the link: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/modular-scifi-hallways
proven lily
We found the problem, it should be correct now
buoyant cradle
It would be awesome if sellers would list the length of all their sound files
rare lynx
@proven lily Thanks! Is it something that I did wrong on my end perhaps? Or just a fluke in the system?
proven lily
It looks like the compatibility was marked as 4.14 for a previous version as well as the 4.13/4.14 version. When it does that it takes the asset that is physically at the top of the list and lists that as 4.14, but since it wasn't listed as 4.13 as well it caused an error to occur. It's a known issue on our end that's been logged in as a bug
rare lynx
I see, thanks for the explanation. I appreciate your help! ๐
proven lily
no problem!
heady moth
@proven lily First come first served seems highly doubtful. I sent my email the day before the deadline and I have my assets spread all over. One on page 21 and one on page 32 and I still need to find the others. So can you explain why first come first serve would result in scattered listing?
proven lily
It is still first come first serve, however there are a number of things that could happen that cause this situation while still following this base protocol. It could be something as simple as an error was caught and the later entry was re-added to the correct sales value/percentage/date.
wooden falcon
this month has been total suck for me, sales-wise
not like they're ever that great, but this one in particular has been bad
cyber monday was pretty good
jovial thunder
I sold 84 units on Cyber Monday (24 the following day), and have sold 29 so far this sale
ebon leaf
I had two packs on sale for cyber monday @ 60% off and got 53 sales
I have three packs on sale for this sale @ 30% off and have gotten 30 sales (so far)
But the rest of december was absolutely awful lol. Expecting January to be pretty average too
silver moat
Last December had low-ish sales as well.
This December too.
Buying from marketplace isn't a priority for people during this time.
But it'll pick up again during Jan-Feb.
Compared to November we've sold 105 units less which quite awful number.
Let's wish December to disappear from the calendar. ๐
modern perch
we sold only 1 item in the Christmas sale, compared to 30-something in November
I guess our stuff is buried in the middle of the list somewhere
but yeah, we're actually performing worse during the sale than normally
ebon leaf
0.o geez. That sucks. Sorry to hear!
flat schooner
3 of 4 my assets that are selling best are on 3rd-5th page
ebon leaf
mine are all about the place and I feel like I'm definitely not doing as well as I would usually with this sort of sale lol
Both this time and the cybermonday sale my assets have been in the middle to second half of the list... first time I replied with 3 minutes of the "would you like to participate?" email, this time round I replied the second to last day in the deadline lol... not sure the first come first served worked out like they think it did ๐
ebon leaf
ouch. Yeah... hopefully by the next big sale they get this shit sorted haha
modern perch
we replied fairly early, I don't think 'first come first serve' is working at all, by the sounds of it
ebon leaf
agreed... I just didn't want it to sound like I was calling Adam a liar ๐ every dev I know who replied super early is no where near the front of the list, and there's other devs with like 20 packs that are all over the place, some with 2 that are 15 pages apart, etc. ๐
scarlet wave
@ebon leaf Oh geeze, and here I thought you were calling Adam a liar, and I was well................ mmmmmmmmmmmmm taken aback............. I was how to say...... MORTIFIED!!!!!!!!!!! in Shock!!!!!!!!!!! Flabberghasted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! geezo peezo, now I can come out of my safe place, as the you have straightened out the world once again...... Thank you for that..... lmao
ebon leaf
lol
ebon leaf
?? who said I wasn't? ๐
scarlet wave
well you had gotten awefully quiet!
ebon leaf
bugfixing test build lol
wooden falcon
@modern perch I feel your pain. I think I've sold like, 3 units total during the course of this sale. I'm on page 27.
then again, it's only on %30 sale.
scarlet wave
@ebon leaf I hereby dub theeeeeeeeeeeee..... KING OF THE REROUTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (even if your noodles do cross!!!!)
ebon leaf
tips hat thank you sir ๐
scarlet wave
well of course! lmao
gaunt flicker
~50% off, moving double the usual units... equates to no change, heh
elfin plinth
Unity Asset Store usually shuffles the sale item positions on list
I was expecting Epic to do the same but I guess it was too much to ask from the manual process they have
although I can see the issue while browsing through pages if the list shuffles at that point
could still shuffle it once a day though
humble vapor
or have a seed that regenerates every time your session expires
i usually make a point to go through every page, but i'm sure i'm the minority.
brazen forum
They should at least keep it per session. I visit each page during a sale. Then I have to visit them all again when I see the number change from 34 - 36 pages. I wish newly added items would be tacked onto the very front or end.
Hiding stuff we already own would be nice, but I could see why they wouldn't do that to make caching easier. Or maybe gray the items we already own out with CSS.
proven lily
Hey everyone, I want to make a clarification, as I reread my posts and realized that they weren't entirely clear.
So, what I said is accurate right now - it is a top down FCFS system. This is not the intended end result, however. We are aware that it is problematic and difficult to use at present, and that there are a number of additional factors and outliers that are causing odd placements within the sorted list
This is something we are looking to bring up to the developers after the holiday break to attempt to put in more efficient systems. This, along with a number of other community requests (shopping cart, wish list, search functionality) are all topics we are currently very aware of and we're looking into better solutions.
But this was the best option we have at this present moment for sales sorting, so we used what is currently available. We definitely value your feedback and we want you to know we're listening and pushing to improve the marketplace. Keep that feedback coming, especially if it's on subjects we may not already be aware of that could be a sticking point for your marketplace experience, either as a community member or a content creator
hardy void
ey, just leaving a little tip, I wouldnt mind seeing more weather systems or particles in the marketplace ๐
rain, specifically
solemn prism
delicate dove
with the occasional "we already have something like that on the marketplace" approach we occasionally hear, I dont feel like spending time on a whole snow/rain system just to hear a potential "there is already one"
else I'd love to make one
ebon leaf
There's also Orbit as well
scarlet wave
@delicate dove this is a bit disconcerting, to wit: "we already have something like that on the marketplace", as one would hope that the marketplace was large enough to support multiple vendors of the same product. Especially as the cost to carry additional products is quite low, as compared to brick and mortar, where physical shelf space is limited.
silver moat
As long as it's top tier there'd always be audience for it.
scarlet wave
@silver moat yes, and there are of course many different ways to implement almost anything, some better, some worse as well, and that kind of response boils down to a "subjective" decision, nothing emperical about it. Hence perhaps even a better product is kept from being in the marketplace for the customer base to decide what is best.
hardy void
@silver moat agreed
silver moat
Marketplace is actually filled with endless opportunities.
It needs hard working people to create amazing assets.
It doesn't matter if there is 20 weather system there, if you do one that's worth 20 of those you'll steal all the sales.
But to be honest people mostly don't go for perfection.
OR
Their maximum perfection level is still lower than expected by majority.
Iron Belly for example is taking advantage of the weapon market.
But the rest of the market generally doesn't have high competition.
Just inspect the similar product, try to deliver something far better, and you will have your sales.
Btw last night December officially became the most profitable month for us since our Day 1 with marketplace. \ (โขโกโข) /
scarlet wave
but one thing I would like to see, is for the guidelines to be updated, as to what is actually required, for a submission, at least for blueprints.
instead of bouncing all over the place, and seeing tidbits here and there that conflict
@silver moat and congratz on the champagne!
lol
hardy void
like have any of you ever played MGS Ground Zeros?
because that game has some good rain
modern perch
"Marketplace is actually filled with endless opportunities.
It needs hard working people to create amazing assets.
It doesn't matter if there is 20 weather system there, if you do one that's worth 20 of those you'll steal all the sales."
Nah, because if they can't find your superior version, they'll never buy it
hardy void
I think you would just have to give it a really simple or direct title
and make the thumbnail look good
silver moat
@modern perch There's little discovery tools on marketplace but the search isn't broken.
modern perch
the search is broken
modern perch
it doesn't work properly - if you search of 'object' and 'objects', you'll get completely different things coming up
silver moat
I can find my work there with a search.
modern perch
it can't handle simple things like plurals, alternative spellings etc, it's hopeless
hardy void
Epic needs to increase the performance of the Marketplace Browser
silver moat
I know it doesn't work properly, but it works.
modern perch
it doesn't work, period. I tried deliberately finding something on there the other day and the first search term I put in did not find it
(even though that search term was part of the NAME of the product)
silver moat
What was the name?
modern perch
can't recall, unfortunately
hardy void
because it runs smoother using google chrome than the official program does.
@modern perch I second this, I cannot find TrueSky, Ive tried spliting them apart, putting them together, it just doesnt come up
modern perch
yeah, just tried searching for 'landscape' and 'landscapes', and you get two completely different sets of results
@hardy void - I just tried that since I have the tab open, and you are quite correct, you cannot find it by searching for it by name
silver moat
I mean 'we sold $12437 this month.
And I've worked my butt off for that.
If I wanted to blame the search and such things I'd have been in the same shoes as most others.
You just have to do hard work and the sales will come in.
hardy void
I agree with that
modern perch
hard work is only part of the means though
later down the line when there are 50 competing products, how do people ever find yours?
silver moat
You can stop creating awesome assets because the search and such things don't work as expected, or you can create the awesome content and you'll eventually make the sales you desire.
hardy void
I never nodiced there was a search bar until last night
modern perch
or worse, when those categories have hundreds of pages, and your stuff doesn't even come up in a search if you look for it by name?
hardy void
@modern perch however, whenever I buy something, I make sure that I look EVERYWHERE for what I want
silver moat
@modern perch The same way they are finding mine.
modern perch
you don't even know how people are finding yours, because the marketplace does not provide that information
hardy void
It's just slightly inconviniont that I have to scroll through every page
but in the end, I DO see everything
modern perch
you can find YOUR products
that's great
other people's don't even turn up if you search for them BY NAME
silver moat
Part of the issue is people name their packages something completely irrelevant.
modern perch
then why does TrueSky never show up?
if you search for 'sky'? or 'TrueSky', it never shows in the search results
look, just because the system is working for you, doesn't mean it's working for everyone
hardy void
@modern perch wait, if they already know the name of your products, than wouldnt they have allready heard of/seen it before?
modern perch
sure, but you still can't sell it to them if they cannot find it in the store
hardy void
you can
it just takes some time
Im pretty sure there arnt many care-free spenders on the marketplace
they wouldnt settle for less just because they cant find it with the search bar
they would browse through until they saw it in its catagory
silver moat
I figured the search works fine if I search any of the words that's included in my package names. And because of that when I create military assets I call it Military Base because I know if anyone is looking for military assets they'd search "Military" keyword.
If TrueSky went ahead and changed it to True Sky then they'd show up when you search Sky.
I don't know why you'd not do that while you know that's a solution.
modern perch
@hardy void - that will work, until the categories get too crowded
hardy void
I still look through all of them
wooden falcon
it helps when your pack is on page 2 :/
silver moat
Put yourself in the same shoe as the buyer and see what they'd type in the search if they wanted your product, and name it accordingly.
Problem solved.
modern perch
that still dosn't work when there are landscape packs that don't show up in the search for 'landscape', despite being called something like 'XXX Landscapes'
this one does not show up in a search for landscape, as an example:
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/landscape-pack-one
wooden falcon
try this: type necro in the search box
silver moat
The S at the end does make a difference and that sucks, but still it's not preventing you from making sales.
modern perch
it's not the 's' at the end
because some packs called 'XXX Landscapes' DO show up
the search, simply put, does not work correctly
modern perch
that's great, but if the user searched for 'landscape', they didn't ever see it
silver moat
Yes that's what I mean when I said "The S at the end does make a difference and that sucks, but still it's not preventing you from making sales."
modern perch
no fault of the marketplace seller
well obviously it is prevent sales, because it isn't coming up in the search
just because YOUR situation is fine, doesn't mean it is for everyone else
silver moat
The debate it whether you should blame some functionalities and do no work or try to find solutions and do your work.
If you want to stay away until the issues are all fixed that's fine. But in the end if you do the work now, you'd have made some sales until the issues are fixed.
abstract hatch
So, just to remind everyone. Adam has already mentioned "A number of other community requests (shopping cart, wish list, search functionality) are all topics we are currently very aware of and we're looking into better solutions." - we are aware of the requests, there's no need to fight with each other about it ๐
silver moat
^ To be honest man, we've been reading those from long time ago.
modern perch
I just don't like Alireza's implication that poor sales are entirely the fault of the seller, when there are a number of problems with the marketplace that cause visibility issues in favour of some users over others
silver moat
I didn't blame the seller for low sales but I said if the seller wishes more sales there are many ways they can improve the sales instead of only waiting for some functionalities to be fixed.
modern perch
perhaps, but in our own case, observing these problems it would be hard for us to want to even take the risk of putting more assets up
silver moat
Maybe I have lost 50% of the sales due to the search not working properly, but even then $12000 is a lot of money for one month. It's worth it for me. I'm not sure about you.
modern perch
it depends on what it costs to make that $12,000 in the first place
if it took you 6 months work, then it's absolutely not worth it for us, not by a mile
silver moat
No one spends 6 months on a marketplace package.
modern perch
people who write complex code plugins might
but I digress, it did not have to be one package to make a $12k return
ebon leaf
Just to chime in... I have had 3 people in the last month buy my pack after a conversation with me, because they had no idea a pack of mine existed because the search didn't show it up when they entered what are realistically completely understandable terms to use for those packs. I don't think anyone is saying that the search is the reason people don't make money... but i definitely DOES hurt your chances of making income in a lot of instances.
There's a reason that people use google when they want something on the net rather than just guessing URLs ๐
modern perch
tbh I still use google when trying to find threads in the forums too xD
scarlet wave
@silver moat It's quite easy to spend 6 months on one product, I know with IwSpline, the blueprint library alone, took quite a bit of time, I mean hell there are over 100 exposed blueprint nodes in the library, much less the actual functionality of the blueprint
ebon leaf
And the point made about Epic promising fixes for these issues forever... yeah. I don't think telling us "we are aware and are working on these issues" is good enough anymore to put these debates at rest.
wooden falcon
my poor sales this time around are partly my fault
I didn't want to get greedy, so I only put one pack (my least popular) on sale for only 30%
silver moat
Apart from the search there's also "Categories". That take about 30 seconds to take a look all the items within the desired category.
wooden falcon
I shoulda just done a cyber sale again, and put them all on at 50%
btw, something really cool: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/aB5rz
ebon leaf
@silver moat the categories are also inconsistent and sluggish. There are things in the blueprint category because they are blueprint systems, that are systems that are used to apply post processing and material effects, so they should be tagged with blueprint, material, post processing, effect, and a search should pick up on this.
modern perch
the categories are only going to get get worse over time; the environment category already must have something like 200 items in it
silver moat
All complains about asset discovery are valid.
Thought my point is the problem isn't as big as making you have 0 sales.
ebon leaf
I don't think anyone was saynig it was?
wooden falcon
I dunno, ambershee's pack is really neat, and not expensive
and stylized are really popular right now
I would have thought he'd have shitloads of sales this month
modern perch
we've had three in the sales thus far xD
silver moat
You're throwing up doing any work for marketplace because one day in the future there will be 50 other similar products on the market that'd make it hard to see yours. I can't digest that to be honest.
modern perch
it's actually performing worse on sale, than when not
silver moat
But your opinion is your opinion.
wooden falcon
I think people go through the sale in order, and the lack of a shopping cart sucks
they pick up the first few they see that they like, and call it a day
modern perch
lack of cart is indeed a killer there - we're something like 20 pages in too, which doesn't help
(there's only one competing product, but it's on page 2 or 3, IIRC)
their's is the better product though, IMHO
ebon leaf
yeah... LOTS of people have been complaining about not being able to sift through the sales data adequately. A working search would be the very minimum to rectify this lol
scarlet wave
I'm not trying to say, that I'm a typical buyer, but I have went through every page of the sale twice, read the comments for each product, checked to see what version levels were supported, etc. In orderr to figure out what I was going to buy. So for me, a Cart makes no difference
ebon leaf
also all things that, honestly, there is no excuse to not have, let alone now, months and months after "we are looking into these things" has been said
@scarlet wave during the cybermonday sale, lots of people had their credit cards blocked because they made x many purchases (buying each pack individually) and were unable to buy more things
modern perch
@scarlet wave - that must have taken ages since there's over 30 pages of stuff (unless you weren't interested in most of it)
ebon leaf
SOme people had multiple cards AND their paypal blocked haha
scarlet wave
Taken ages? no, about 45 minutes per pass
ebon leaf
Not to mention it overcomplicates people who are trying to run a business (20 receipts instead of one haha)
I was kinda worried my card would be blocked >< managed to make it through without it happening though
I hadn't even considered it being an issue tbh ๐ but I've never had enough disposable money to go nuts like that on a sale haha
scarlet wave
lmao @ebon leaf
modern perch
the marketplace has been around for over two years now, it's kind of disconcerting that simple basic features are still missing
scarlet wave
@modern perch but generally I don't trust comments for anything, what I look for is trends, how fast does the seller respond, etc, are multiple people complaining about the same thing. I've bought some pure crap off the marketplace, and some excellent stuff as well, but as in all transactions, Caveat Emptor
modern perch
yeah, that's fair
wooden falcon
are there any environment packs anyone would recommend?
scarlet wave
but my grump is, heck I don't know if I can name directories under the primary directoy for a blueprint, my own names, or do they have to be "textures", "blueprints" etc, (which I personally find less than usefull, I like to have a prefix to the directory name for each of my products"
silver moat
@wooden falcon What sort of environment?
wooden falcon
I dunno, dungeon?
silver moat
You don't know what you want? ๐
wooden falcon
preferrably modular, so I can learn some good technique
wooden falcon
yah, I have one of those
very nice
been thinking of working on a modular pack, themed off old shooters like Quake
something to quickly come up with some nice deathmatch levels
modern perch
@wooden falcon - not a specific pack, nor Unreal, but handy:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/537828380472530486/
zealous ibex
You get a payout at 100usd right? Would that mean you would not get a payout at $99.97?
wooden falcon
probably not HowToCompute
ebon leaf
yeah you wouldn't lol
zealous ibex
LMAO f*ck it when someone 1 stars something without even sending you an email
ebon leaf
damn man. That sucks.
Probably not a mistake ๐ you have to rate it and THEN click 'rate it' after lol
ebon leaf
probably some kid that was angry some feature they think is important is missing and that you didn't make a 'make game' button ๐
zealous ibex
No they left a comment
I fn tested what he/she/it said is not working before I submitted
So gonna verify in a sec ๐
Oh well, atleast I tried to sell stuff ^^
ebon leaf
Don't let it discourage you.
silver moat
The person that was insulting me on my product page changed his rating from 5 to 1 after like 4 months lol.
ebon leaf
The most common one I see is 1 or 2 stars out of 5, or angry complaints in the comments, about "this doesn't work in VR!" when it's not listed as a VR pack lol
zealous ibex
It isnยดt working... You can pick up the Items only from 1 side, if you want pickup from the other side, nothing gets added ... sometimes if you pick up any item, other items in the inventory get removed.
You canยดt pick up all items, if you do it, no one is in the inventory.
(tested with 4.14.1)
``` Can't even use the proper ' ๐And it's soo clear ๐
ebon leaf
wtf...
zealous ibex
I think that's the 1 star rater
ebon leaf
unless you specifically coded something in so that you could only pick up items when you are in a small range of degrees around that item, that seems almost impossible haha
zealous ibex
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ebon leaf
sounds like they tried to implement it in their character and screwed up raycasting tbh
zealous ibex
It's coded to go on overlap on a sphere collider around a sphere
(you pick an item up by walking over it)
ebon leaf
... yeah okay. I don't see how their comment can make sense at all then =/
zealous ibex
Hey it only f*cked up my packs carreer ^^
Let's try and be overly helpful and understanding xD
wooden falcon
all you can do is show you helped
zealous ibex
Yep
ebon leaf
That and ask the customers who contact you who are hapyp to vote up and leave reviews if they don't mind
ebon leaf
They only by stylized packs ๐ sorry
zealous ibex
Will do ๐
scarlet wave
lmao
rotf
It would be funny as heck, to have Bugs Bunny, and insane wicked version, chomping down on a carrot, and tearing into players
silver moat
@ebon leaf Don't ask your fanboys to leave reviews. ๐
scarlet wave
lmao
ebon leaf
haha ๐
silver moat
During his whole 3 raging days he never asked for a refund. ๐
ebon leaf
probably went on to buy AL2 ๐
zealous ibex
wow reply limits on MP comments
ebon leaf
lol yeah
wooden falcon
this comes out: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/public-restroom and a few weeks later, George Michael dies...coincidence?
zealous ibex
Welp did a multipart reply ^^
silver moat
Did Tim talk about marketplace in the last twitch?
scarlet wave
@silver moat no idea
elfin plinth
@wooden falcon what's the connection to GM?
jovial thunder
@silver moat Nope
wooden falcon
lol @elfin plinth, it was a joke...he was busted one time for 'lewd acts' in an airport restroom
wicked pebble
@zealous ibex Honestly, I don't see the star rating until after i decide if it's useful to me or not. Didn't notice it until I started scrolling mp and saw you had 1 star ๐ฎ
zealous ibex
It's at 3 stars now tho โค
delicate dove
@silver moat dont think so
wicked pebble
Of course it is! ๐
zealous ibex
wait wuuut
I replied to a comment 2 days ago, it was still there yesterday but now it's gone? ๐
flint snow
Happy New Years, time for marketplace 2017 ๐
zealous ibex
Happy new year to you too @flint snow ๐ And the best of luck on the marketplace
idle token
If I buy something on marketplace, can that be later removed or do I still have access if e.g. the author decides they no longer wish to sell the thing?
idle token
Yeah that'd be understandable. Cool
btw just ran into a HTTP 404: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/Tyler Gibbons linked here: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/z-mech-robot-giant
delicate dove
hmm @sleek egret ^ ^ ^
hollow tundra
is there anyone from epic in here?
ok, its on the right, @abstract hatch or @worn jewel could you, if your the right ones to ask, bring back the option of downloading from the marketplace with out having to add to a project first?
in the launcher.
elfin plinth
@hollow tundra instead of tagging random people on discord (who probably have zero influence on how launcher works) it's better to write a feature request about it, you can do it here https://forums.unrealengine.com/forumdisplay.php?24-Feedback-for-Epic
elfin plinth
we have plenty of epic staff here that has nothing to do with marketplace, kitatus has but he doesn't handle launcher development in any way
also, in general, it's not adviced to "bug" staff members for issues that are not related to them, especially when they are not clearly attending the channel ๐
delicate dove
^
elfin plinth
btw, I don't think there are ANY epic devs on this discord group that actually handle launcher development, so that feedback subforum is truly the best way to reach the right people
hollow tundra
its there a way to add content from the marketplace to a project that is outdated, like over-ride the warning about a version that is not compatible?
elfin plinth
you can't easily add newer content to the older engine
hollow tundra
older content to newer engine.
elfin plinth
ah, that's just one checkbox away
elfin plinth
yes
usually you'd just pick the newest engine version for that specific asset in that case
hollow tundra
*and I meant out dated content to a newer project.
elfin plinth
unless there's been huge changes, things work as is
hollow tundra
ok
elfin plinth
for art and that kind of content usuallyupgrades nicely
code & blueprints may break / need manual changes to work fully
which is why the sellers are obligated to update them for the marketplace
that rule hasn't always been enforced though
hollow tundra
I see that
wide bronze
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/wasteland-rocks-pack does anyone else own this, can you see if its available?
silver moat
@wide bronze It's available for purchase. Are you having any troubles buying it?
wide bronze
I own it, it tells me its unavailable on the launcher
I was in the middle of downloading it and now it just wont show up
omg it just appeared by itself :S
how does that make any sense
shell jacinth
launcher recently has been bugged
telling people the stuff is incompatible when it is, etc.
wide bronze
you mean there was time when it wasnt bugged? ๐
silver moat
What makes sense is that it doesn't make sense.
wide bronze
I just really needed to download this pack to continue, I made a top down shooter in a night ๐
I suppose youre right @silver moat any reasonable person should expect the nonsensical from Epic software ๐
This is what makes sense --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is what Epic will do instead
oh look at that, atleast it'll resume the download. Thats the best part of the launcher, it tells you, please dont quit it'll fail but its actually really good at picking things up mid-stride
shell jacinth
yeah, it's good about resuming
I hate it when download won't resume after my net randomly goes down
wide bronze
yeah it gets jammed at 0k/s
the issue I have is downloads count backwards, I know I get some packet loss but Epic launcher is terrible
I lose like 10mb in the space of a few mins even if its paused, I dont get it
I think its just heavily optimized for decent fibre and not anything else
for all I know Im downloading off some server in bumville idaho
silver moat
The idea of having a launcher is ok. It brings a lot of stuff together and makes them easy to access.
But bugged launchers, they piss people off.
zealous ibex
Especially when they are forced to start ^^
wooden falcon
yah, the launcher sucks
would be nice if you could download from the marketplace website
zealous ibex
Tooo easy to hack/crack I guess
Then everyone would just get zips, now there is a slight art for pirates ๐
elfin plinth
launcher is still lightyears better now than what it was on the first year when ue4 launched
oh horrors
it used to hog all the CPU on idle
not talking about some 15-25% CPU load but way more
and even that wouldn't be acceptable ๐
ebon leaf
lol I remeber when it had a memory leak XD
scarlet wave
Olento, your damning with faint praise! lol Even though it consumed a lot of cpu, there was a simple cure, just kill it. For some of these other things, there is no cure available to the customer
elfin plinth
well, you had to kill it, I couldn't even build lightmass if it was active
it literally stalled the whole progress
it was that bad
wooden falcon
I just left it for a couple of hours, came back, and it was oscillating at 326 meg of a 1.6 g d/l
fark you launcher :/
326 meg is what I left it at, btw
didn't do this a month or so ago
lethal thistle
I'll be releasing this as part of edition 4 of my Advanced Material pack within the next few weeks.
gaunt flicker
Aight yall, what do I need to buy during this sale
rare lynx
@gaunt flicker some modular scifi assets to go with that awesome generic shooter package. ๐ https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/Jonathon Frederick
wooden falcon
picked this up in the sale: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/rome-fantasy-pack-i
wish the launcher would work right so i could finish d/ling it :/
crude edge
i picked up this: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/generic-shooter-sample-project
Finally on sale so I figured why not
buoyant cradle
I want to have unique assets, which package you would never buy? ๐
@gaunt flicker if you like ripping off other people: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/game-music-mega-pack-01
modern perch
that game music pack is still up there?
ebon leaf
haven't seen anythign about it anywhere since the initial convo with lous in here
heady moth
@gaunt flicker all my stuff x10
delicate dove
@gaunt flicker my kidney
proven lily
Hey @idle token I fixed the 404 error for the Z Mech page, thanks for letting us know.
zealous ibex
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silver moat
It would be interesting if Epic shared how much profit they made from marketplace in 2016.
ebon leaf
THen they'd need to actually give the marketplace team the resources they should be getting ๐
zealous ibex
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Also can anyone tell me why you have to send updates by email etc to the team and you cannot just do it from in your dashboard?
ebon leaf
Uh oh...w e've got a questioner guys. Quick! Git'im! ๐
zealous ibex
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But in all seriousness, it sucks having to open up email etc, hope the request arrives all in one peace, hope noone highjacks the dropbox link etc
ebon leaf
yep. It's one of the biggest complaints among sellers and buyers alike.
We can't even update the product description ๐
We only got the ability to update the version compatibility a few months ago haha
zealous ibex
Oh that description thing I change
It makes me just leave typos in there which I didnt realize before as I dont wanna bug the team with just updating 1 word xD
Also it's slow, they are pretty fast for a support desk, but if I for example finish something on friday or in a holiday, it can take forever to get up there xD
ebon leaf
lots of times people submit updates, new images/descriptions, etc. and it gets 'lost'. The marketplace team have to deal with several thousand packs... so no surprise lol. But... yeah
wooden falcon
jesus, I'd kill for a < $15 filter :/
ebon leaf
@wooden falcon https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Xi8lX7IThJ9VWPSV-_w5CQIqpC6GhfovviVdQjnrim8/edit#gid=0 sort by price. You're welcome ๐
though @humble stag is more the one to thank
ebon leaf
haha XD
humble stag
ty for credits ๐
ebon leaf
lol np ๐ you deserve it
wooden falcon
thx scraphead!
humble stag
np!
wooden falcon
I'm pretty tapped out after buying that rome pack
supple moon
Bugger I was just about to make a purchase and the sale ended haha
At least I bought the main things which I wanted about 10 minutes prior (leaving it to last minute haha)
Didn't manage to get this for $100 off though kinda broke so was on the fence whether I should buy it now or later when I plan to fully utilise it ๐
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/ultimate-fps-weapons-pack-vr-ready
But yeah we really need a countdown timer for event sales on the actual Events Page...
I believe the sale ended for me personally at 9am on the dot
Though I did look it up on a Timezone converter so I knew when it ended but still that's an inconvenience for most
jolly smelt
Yeah that stinks don't get paid till the 8th and missed out :x
abstract hatch
@supple moon I see you have the power of Nitro ๐
supple moon
@jolly smelt I was lucky and got paid on the 4th (today) and the funds usually hit my accountant 2-3am of that day
Ended up falling asleep and waking up just before 9am and went into panic mode haha
Only had my mobile phone and PC was still booting which was a pain to go through 30 ish pages worth of event sales content...
Managed to get to page 23 before the sale ended
Shame since I had all the shit I wanted to buy bookmarked on my desktop
(โฏยฐโกยฐ๏ผโฏ๏ธต โปโโป
strange yacht
I'm still pondering which ones I want to save for
jovial thunder
@zealous ibex If someone hijacking your dropbox link is a concern, I think you have bigger things to worry about regarding email :p
lime glen
As per someones request
tall helm
fuck yeah... finally got the modo script working that I need to make content creation for my new pack a few orders of magnitude easier \m/
flat schooner
@tall helm good for u :)
gleaming echo
quick question. why is the recent additions category empty?
ebon leaf
Been no new additions for two weeks because of holidays
zealous ibex
@jovial thunder Not my biggest concirn. But it just feels a bit insecure sending links ๐
jovial thunder
Doesn't seem much different than submitting those same files/info over the internet via a seller portal :p
zealous ibex
Hey noticed this post: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/the-2016-marketplace-holiday-sale was still up ๐
modern perch
Not surprised
sales stuff seems to be done by entirely by hand, rather than using an automated system?
ebon leaf
Yeah everything is manual atm lol
modern perch
Two years of UE4 marketplace - still do everything by hand ๐
ebon leaf
If they don't start automating things then it's only going to get worse... So many packs avail already haha
modern perch
I get it with the submission process; a lot of stuff is subjective and needs to be looked at by a person
but so much other stuff could just be done with a web front-end instead of having to e-mail support all the time
zealous ibex
Anyone know who to hit up to get my marketplace creator badge? It's nearly been a month since my asset released and I still don't have it ^^
ebon leaf
@zealous ibex I believe (though could be wrong) that @white osprey is usually the go to guy for forum related stuff, though I'm sure if you ping @proven lily or @sleek egret one of them can sort it out for you.
zealous ibex
wow thats a lot of mentions ๐
As you already pinged them I'll see if they reply to that, if not I'll quickly PM alexander ๐
ebon leaf
lol ๐ eh. Mentions make it easier for that precise reason ๐
they probably all have discord on DND anyways XD
silver moat
One might spend one day creating 50 gmail accounts and vote himself. Then enjoy the countless sales for months.
jovial thunder
My exact thoughts
silver moat
There is no way to prove it's being abused. But there is also no way to prove it's not being abused. And there are plenty of people out there who would abuse anything if they can.
jovial thunder
No way to prove someone is abusing, no risk.
silver moat
With asking for community input on this I'm not sure why this is still happening.
jovial thunder
@delicate dove Saw your tweet btw
delicate dove
^ been saying that since it became a thing
jovial thunder
It was the first thing I thought when I saw how votes were casted
delicate dove
when my cavepack was on trello, I leveraged my community-gained buddies to vote the shit out of it
it was the fasted voted on pack since the marketplace
if i wanted to, i could get my cave pack on it every month
(IF they actually update every month :p)
but im against that voting system
it should be gone
jovial thunder
Yeah lol
delicate dove
seriously?
jovial thunder
Yup
jovial thunder
I'm surprised it only has 4 ratings by now
delicate dove
guy must be making bank due to that ffup
jovial thunder
Definitely
2 months of visibility... Who wouldn't try and abuse? That's the probelm
sleek egret
@zealous ibex We can set you up, just send me your forum name.
sleek egret
@zealous ibex You're all set.
zealous ibex
Thanks โค
wicked pebble
If I were to make a robot asset without legs, would it still need to be rigged to ue4 mannequin?
wicked pebble
Interesting.
wooden falcon
I think they're sort of expected to be rigged to something though
unless it's a broken down robot prop ๐
new stuff on MP!
somebody's been watching The Walking Dead, I see
and people seem to love fuse boxes, lately
wow, that's the fewest things I've seen on-sale in a long time
wicked pebble
I mean, it'll have a rig, but since it uses propellers/jets/etc it doesn't use legs so wtf am I supposed to do xD
buoyant cradle
I swear, I'm gonna make the ultimate Low Poly package, so people can stop submitting this stuff in the marketplace aready ๐
And I'm gonna include that s<3tty tree, that is made up by a stretched icosphere, and I'm gonna submit it in 256 colors :3
buoyant cradle
But wait there is more