#virtual-reality | Unreal Source | Page 225

daring mural Jun 10, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Where can I change whether motion controllers tick / update during game pause? By default they do not, currently -- but I need them to

sturdy coral Jun 10, 2020, 5:32 AM

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@daring mural UActorComponent::SetTickableWhenPaused

daring mural Jun 10, 2020, 5:37 AM

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@sturdy coral I've set tick when paused on the character actor, even on the controller components at runtime

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But on pause, they seem to stop updating their transforms

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I heard it has something to do with the recent SteamVR bindings system, I'm using VRE and it recently updated to sync up that logic for controllers on pause

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I don't know if there's an editor solution

sturdy coral Jun 10, 2020, 5:40 AM

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@daring mural test without VRE before asking in general, then if it is vre specific ask there

balmy scarab Jun 10, 2020, 5:42 AM

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@frail leaf check in the learning section, a lot of things like that end up there.

frail leaf Jun 10, 2020, 5:56 AM

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@frail leaf check in the learning section, a lot of things like that end up there.
@balmy scarab Thanks for the reply. I checked, and I'm not seeing anything. Well I see the other learning content examples, but not showdown

balmy scarab Jun 10, 2020, 6:02 AM

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yeah I cant see it there either, sorry

sturdy coral Jun 10, 2020, 6:06 AM

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@balmy scarab I can't tell because I already have them in my library, but I heard couch knights was removed too

brazen berry Jun 10, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Does anyone know how to change the FOV of the VR preview window?

balmy scarab Jun 10, 2020, 6:15 AM

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I guess it is easier to remove them than to keep them updated

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The Vr preview is the left eye iirc

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I think there is some cropping function for it

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Or you could try make a vr spectator

brazen berry Jun 10, 2020, 6:17 AM

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It wouldn't be something in the engine.ini would it?

balmy scarab Jun 10, 2020, 6:17 AM

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vr spectator uses a render target, so has some overhead.

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I am not sure, I havent tried to do something like that since 4.15

balmy scarab Jun 10, 2020, 6:35 AM

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I am still chasing help with enabling oculus mixed reality capture. Would appreciate some help.
https://discordapp.com/channels/187217643009212416/221799478364078081/719937757903847444

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I must be missing something simple

sonic lake Jun 10, 2020, 6:47 AM

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@lunar geyser you may be using the wrong video encoding. Check here: https://creator.oculus.com/blog/encoding-high-resolution-360-and-180-video-for-oculus-go/

lunar geyser Jun 10, 2020, 7:44 AM

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Thanks Marco, will do !

chilly pasture Jun 10, 2020, 9:39 AM

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Hey Guys, I have this common problem, that i can solve inside the Normal Character Game, but not sure how I am going to do this in VR.
I want to make My VRPawn Tilt, Tilt is not that much, but not sure how to achieve that, as far as i understand VRCamera is getting the location and Rotation from the HeadSet itself ?

carmine yoke Jun 10, 2020, 9:42 AM

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@chilly pasture That sounds like it's gonna make people sick if they aren't actually tilting themselves

chilly pasture Jun 10, 2020, 9:42 AM

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I understand.

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But this is the requirement so team can see the effect.

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do you think it is possible

carmine yoke Jun 10, 2020, 9:47 AM

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Yeah, if you know the location of the headset, and the location of the floor beneath it (using a raycast down, or just knowing the floor z value), you could do trig to find out where the heaset would be for x degrees tilt?

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There's probably a better way though

chilly pasture Jun 10, 2020, 9:47 AM

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I want to know, to which i set the value

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Camera ?

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Parent Scene

frigid kite Jun 10, 2020, 9:49 AM

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You can't change the transform of the camera directly, as it is indeed filled in from the HMD. Transforming the parent scene component will do the trick, yes.

chilly pasture Jun 10, 2020, 9:50 AM

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I understand@frigid kite thanks.

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One more thing

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Does Ouclus Quest supports Camera Fade ?

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I believe Without Mobile HDR, Camera Fade does not work

frigid kite Jun 10, 2020, 10:01 AM

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I don't see how those two would tie together, AFAIK it should work just fine

real needle Jun 10, 2020, 1:55 PM

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any one know what this might mean ??

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UATHelper: Packaging (Android (ASTC)): Y:\app\src\main\AndroidManifest.xml:59:3-111 Warning:
UATHelper: Packaging (Android (ASTC)): Element uses-feature#android.hardware.vr.headtracking at AndroidManifest.xml:59:3-111 duplicated with element declared at AndroidManifest.xml:46:3-111

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just got the warning when packing project for android ATSC

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when i then try and launch from the launch button I get this error which halts it starting in quest

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my setting are starting by on the fly

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not sure if thats the reason ??

real needle Jun 10, 2020, 2:21 PM

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How come after i build my lighting with them all set to static I don't see the mesh getting light

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unless I change all light to Stationary or Mobile ?

chilly pasture Jun 10, 2020, 3:14 PM

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Is it possible to this for VR

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actually this is needed

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but above one is happening

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because the ground remains parllel

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I just need the effect

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@frigid kite Scene component is working but not everytime

tired tree Jun 10, 2020, 3:24 PM

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@chilly pasture rotate capsule to face normal of surface, assuming you aren't using a character it will work fine, and the camera being a child of the capsule will rotate with it

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though that doesn't take into effect roomscale, but you can account for that

chilly pasture Jun 10, 2020, 3:33 PM

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But camera is linked with HMD< that is making all the issue, because as i rotate, camera tilts, but as the Axis of rotation does not change for camera because of HMD

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I get up and down movments

tired tree Jun 10, 2020, 3:37 PM

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@chilly pasture you are just trying to align floor position correct?

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root component of the actor is your "floor", in the image case

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the camera moves in relative space

real needle Jun 10, 2020, 4:22 PM

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How come after i build my lighting with them all set to static I don't see the mesh getting light
@real needle any able to help would be greatly appreciated

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supple kraken Jun 10, 2020, 4:23 PM

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Hi, I'm having an issue with the Vive controller position. It is giving me an offset. Can anyone help?

carmine yoke Jun 10, 2020, 4:34 PM

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@real needle Do your meshes have UV maps?

real needle Jun 10, 2020, 4:39 PM

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yes

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they have UVmap 0 for texture then UVmap1 a Lightma from 3d software and UVmap2 which is generated in unreal on import

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selecting either unreal lightmap or one from blender dosen't seem to fix it

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LogPlayLevel: Error: 06-10 17:38:56.063 7148 7167 D UE4 : [2020.06.10-16.38.56:063][678]LogHMD: Error: FOculusHMDModule::GetPluginWrapper().WaitToBeginFrame 6678 failed (-1003)

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i did just get that error above when i just tested it

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I also have never had this issue with anything i've built when it been for standard pc before

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@carmine yoke not sure if any of that helps at all

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that is the lightmap in Blender

carmine yoke Jun 10, 2020, 4:45 PM

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No not really, your meshes not lighting has nothing to do with android/vr

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You sure they've imported into ue4 properly? go on the mesh and check the two uv maps. And check that it's assigned the correct uv map to use in the settings panel

real needle Jun 10, 2020, 4:48 PM

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you mean the lightmap coordinate ?

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also what renderer would be best to use for VR, the am7 or volken ??

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at the moment they are both ticked to be talised

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utalised

carmine yoke Jun 10, 2020, 4:51 PM

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check your UVs are imported using this is the static mesh screen

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and check that it's using the correct index

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for the lightmap

real needle Jun 10, 2020, 4:52 PM

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okay give me two mintues I need to create new from scracth i enable a volken for preview renderer which has broken the file all together

carmine yoke Jun 10, 2020, 4:52 PM

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I use es3.1 because I was GPU bound not Draw bound

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and Vulkan is new so I cba to deal with any bugs

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and you should use arm 64 for Quest

real needle Jun 10, 2020, 4:53 PM

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with starting a new file is it best to run it and leave all settings standard ?

carmine yoke Jun 10, 2020, 4:54 PM

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he?

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eh*?

real needle Jun 10, 2020, 4:55 PM

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so when you make a new VR project using VR template you would go through altering settings optamising etc ??

carmine yoke Jun 10, 2020, 4:55 PM

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https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/unreal/unreal-quick-start-guide-quest/

follow this

Oculus Quest and Go: Quick Start

Describes a quick start for Oculus Quest and Go development in Unreal.

real needle Jun 10, 2020, 4:55 PM

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or do you leave all settings as they are then once you know things work then change whats needed

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yeah I followed that which broke the project wouldn't work on quest at all

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on that screen should i set 1 to store arm64 and set 0 of rarm7 ??

carmine yoke Jun 10, 2020, 4:57 PM

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I don't use that

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Mine are set to 0

real needle Jun 10, 2020, 4:58 PM

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you mentioned something about arm 64 though didn't you

carmine yoke Jun 10, 2020, 4:58 PM

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real needle Jun 10, 2020, 5:08 PM

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cool i've set that and i'm just launched it

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how do you launch it

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on the fly or by the book?

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@carmine yoke

carmine yoke Jun 10, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Supposedly by the book but I do fly cos its quicker

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Or tbh I often don't launch at all, just make packages

real needle Jun 10, 2020, 5:12 PM

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when you make a package, how are you transfering that to the oculus quest is that by drag and drop into folder kind of thing

carmine yoke Jun 10, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Adb

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android debug bridge

real needle Jun 10, 2020, 5:19 PM

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where is this stored i tried to look for that other day

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Also is this normal, as it currently at this stage is this when I should be seeing it running on the oculus ??

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and normally how long does this take to do ?

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do you also set your preview renderer to be the arm64 as well ?? or do you leave that untouched

carmine yoke Jun 10, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Just let it do it's thing, first time takes a while

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I set my preview to es3.1

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but that only gets you so far, need to check it in Quest to really see how it looks

real needle Jun 10, 2020, 7:19 PM

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right well I jist ran it in quest the new project I've made seemed fine

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I have modelled a simple room which i'm going to launch into once Unreal has finished completing shader compile of like 1400 off

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odd

magic parrot Jun 10, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Hey all, I'm starting to dig into the VR template from Unreal Engine, it already sounds like it has a lot of good information there. Do you know of any other learning resources for making VR experinces in Unreal Engine?

real needle Jun 10, 2020, 11:42 PM

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I have an issue for theres anyone that may be able to answer it

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when I load in quest I see this however I don't see floor texutre correctly it's mostly white greyish, and wall where it shows as blue parts actually is black

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any ideas please?

real needle Jun 11, 2020, 12:13 AM

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is anyone able to explain why Rect Lights won't work when trying to build for VR ??

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I had one in start room however after applying the settings of VR stuff it seemed to stop Rect lights from casting any light etc ??

covert ferry Jun 11, 2020, 9:34 AM

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Anyone else had to deal with ghosting, objects trailing in VR, for example, my hands leave a trail behind them as i wave them in front of me.
It doesn't stick around for long but its annoying.

modest cliff Jun 11, 2020, 9:51 AM

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@covert ferry What Anti-Aliasing setting do you have active?

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@covert ferry Shouldn't use Temporal AA

covert ferry Jun 11, 2020, 9:52 AM

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@modest cliff I am unaware, that isnt something i have looked into, how may I check/change it ?

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thank you for the knowledge btw @modest cliff !

modest cliff Jun 11, 2020, 9:52 AM

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It's in Project Settings - Rendering (if I'm not mistaken) or you can open Project Settings and search for "Anti.." in top search bar

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Np

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Are you using the Deferred or the Forward Renderer btw?

covert ferry Jun 11, 2020, 9:55 AM

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@modest cliff it is currently set to Temporal AA, should i just test the others or is there a standard ?
I plan on looking into forward rendering too at some point soon as I hear it is best for vr

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read my mind

modest cliff Jun 11, 2020, 9:56 AM

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For Forward it would be MSAA for Deferred try FXAA

covert ferry Jun 11, 2020, 9:57 AM

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I see a switch for forward shading which isn't currently in use, I haven't enabled it for fear of messing something up (I am already pretty far into my project.

modest cliff Jun 11, 2020, 9:57 AM

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Just be aware to check which features aren't supported in Forward and if they are of any importance to you

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It's a non destructible process to switch between the two...but all the shaders have to be rebuilt

covert ferry Jun 11, 2020, 10:00 AM

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I haven't messed with building shaders yet, So far besides the trailing effect, the project runs nicely in VR preview mode.
I have my fingers crossed that is a good thing as I haven't began doing stat checks/profiling yet, as I still have to learn that process.

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very greatful for that information!

modest cliff Jun 11, 2020, 10:04 AM

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No problem and good luck with your project 👍

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The shaders should compile automatically though

covert ferry Jun 11, 2020, 10:13 AM

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@modest cliff promise I wont pester you again.
FXAA totally fixed the blur issue of my hands but there are now jaggy's all around me (Almost like AA was turned off altogether)
which are rather distracting.

I may try the forward render with MSAA and see if that works.

granite idol Jun 11, 2020, 12:43 PM

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Im trying to move a joystick No Man's Sky style for VR. I currently have my box attaching to my hand and it rotates but it's offset and weird. Any tips?

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This is what I am talking about

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thin solstice Jun 11, 2020, 1:04 PM

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Good Morning all. I’m developing an experience for the quest. For this experience, users will be walking around in their guardian space. No teleportation, no thumb stick movement or anything. This is an enterprise experience, so we have control over the size of the setup, so that is not an issue.

However, what is beyond our control is where the user might start the experience from. There is a specific place in my level that I want the users to start at to ensure they have room to walk around. But users could start anywhere from within their guardian and when they start in the level, the guardian and the virtual worlds are mismatched so there’s not enough room for them to move around. It’s OK if the guardian happens to be bigger - the user just will not venture into that area.

I need to position the virtual world to line up with the guardian boundary, like at the “lower right” corner of the two worlds. The user will be coming into the experience at an on boarding level, so I can direct them to the starting point location they need to be in when they start the main level. However, they need to be aligned. So ultimately, I have two questions:

How can I check the guardian space just to make sure it has been defined big enough for the level?
How can I adjust the levels where it lines up with a point in the guardian space?

Hopefully this makes sense what I’m asking... I drew a crude picture to maybe help. Thanks!

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covert ferry Jun 11, 2020, 1:59 PM

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I need a working VR whiteboard for my project. could someone point me in the right direction please ?

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please @ me

chilly pasture Jun 11, 2020, 2:24 PM

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@frigid kite @tired tree I did that tilt using Character movement, Basically i would need to tilt the Capsule, and i was using a custom Pawn, So my Pawn started sliding, so changed to Character Class, Did the Tilt. and it worked out fine.

Basically I was not able to do it tilting the VRSceneRootComponent, because it has some weired rotation when you tilt the Actor, so getting forward and right vector from there, was not correct for the math. It should always from the Capsule.

Thanks guys.

tired tree Jun 11, 2020, 2:30 PM

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@chilly pasture i said not to use a character, because if you try to use the primary locomotion mode it will freak out when tilted.
Normal pawns will have no issue being tilted as well, if it was sliding then you had it simulating for some reason or some logic error.

real needle Jun 11, 2020, 2:53 PM

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can anyone help please

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pretty much tearing my hair out with this

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Normal render, Built lighting, looks fine

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Switch to Volken which oculus quest sees I then get this. I'm unable to build lighting as the option to build grey's out after switching

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chilly pasture Jun 11, 2020, 2:58 PM

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@tired tree yeah was simulating, because Pawn needs move according to the terrain

tired tree Jun 11, 2020, 3:00 PM

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@chilly pasture don't need to simulate for that

chilly pasture Jun 11, 2020, 3:00 PM

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@tired tree Only Reason for using Character instead of normal Pawn is because of the Gravity that needs, because My pawn does not teleport, it moves

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@tired tree Do Custom snapping to Ground ?

tired tree Jun 11, 2020, 3:01 PM

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yeah...well, a stock character isn't going to work on angle ground

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yeah you can just apply offset in capsule -Z vector

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relative, convert to world

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align to surface normal

chilly pasture Jun 11, 2020, 3:02 PM

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@tired tree Yeah it seems like one problem generated another

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so you recommend don't use Character ?

granite idol Jun 11, 2020, 3:03 PM

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I need help solving this rotation issue. Any helpful tips will go a LONG way! I've been stuck on this for hours

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tired tree Jun 11, 2020, 3:04 PM

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@chilly pasture not if you are trying to use walking mode with it on a slanted surface

granite idol Jun 11, 2020, 3:04 PM

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tired tree Jun 11, 2020, 3:04 PM

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there are custom character movement components that handle that a bit better

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but regardless, a stock character doesn't play well with roomscale anyway

real needle Jun 11, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Normal render, Built lighting, looks fine
@real needle any one able to help with my above issue at all ??

tired tree Jun 11, 2020, 3:04 PM

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that capsule being used for collision is stuck center of your playspace

chilly pasture Jun 11, 2020, 3:06 PM

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@granite idol i would recommend doing this kind of thing using physics constraints

granite idol Jun 11, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Dude, if you know how to do this, I will cough over some quarters for you to show me how to do it

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Im tired of this problem and need to move forward

chilly pasture Jun 11, 2020, 3:08 PM

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you wan to make your lever , Physics based and Use physics Handle to grab the Lever from the point, Then Use physics Constraints to do the Effect.
Most challenging is a wheel, but lever is fairly easy.

granite idol Jun 11, 2020, 3:09 PM

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Yeah, I'm simply aiming to make a joystick and throttle like No Man's sky but this stinking offsets gonna make me blow my fuse haha

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So what then, put a bone in it, then add a new constraight then be able to grab that?

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If you have like one hour and a paypal If you guide me through it I will toss you $30 CAD

tired tree Jun 11, 2020, 3:13 PM

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@granite idol I have a 3 axis joystick that is logical and not physics based

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if you want the source, don't know if you c++

granite idol Jun 11, 2020, 3:14 PM

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I only know bp my friend

tired tree Jun 11, 2020, 3:14 PM

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can't just port it as is since its in my plugins framework

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no mans joystick is pretty bad when you get down to it

granite idol Jun 11, 2020, 3:14 PM

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For sure, makes sense. As long as you know the principals you might be able to assist if you're willing.

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Yeah, I was wrestling with the idea of it. I though it was cool, but it can get screwy

tired tree Jun 11, 2020, 3:15 PM

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https://youtu.be/NfbP3jPL_Nw?t=126

YouTube

M72TheLaw

Flight Stick Lever Mode - Website, ect

Going over the new flight stick mode of the VRLever, some 4.22 and plugin news, and the new plugin website at: www.vreue4.com

▶ Play video

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the upside to the logical type is you can control it more accuractely

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the downside is it takes more effort

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physics based you could run it off of that collision cube without physics handles

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if you constrained to it

granite idol Jun 11, 2020, 3:16 PM

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Yeah for sure. That looks good. Do you have a R/V Interp to get it back to base?

tired tree Jun 11, 2020, 3:16 PM

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yeah it returns to 0

granite idol Jun 11, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Looks good. Pretty much what I need to a degree

tired tree Jun 11, 2020, 3:17 PM

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though it has yaw as well, which you may not

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without yaw it is a lot easier

granite idol Jun 11, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Yeah, I was gonna put Yaw to the left thumbstick

tired tree Jun 11, 2020, 3:18 PM

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without yaw you can emulate it just with a RotateTowards

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and then you would have to calculate the angles

granite idol Jun 11, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Yeah man, if you have an hour to walk me through and get it working Im game

tired tree Jun 11, 2020, 3:19 PM

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mmm, wouldn't be able to in an hour, you can pm me and i can give some advice though

granite idol Jun 11, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Sounds good man

covert ferry Jun 11, 2020, 4:12 PM

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@real needle I am just watching a video on the forward render used in VR to optimise my project. About 5 mins into the video he mentions rectangle lights being an issue when using the forward render (as well as possibly fog and spot lights)
I havent watched it all yet but it might be worth your time.

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https://youtu.be/kU-HMlbmMOc

YouTube

Unreal4Real

Unreal Engine - VR Optimization

Note: This video is longer and educational, if you are an experienced user feel free to skip around. The intro ends at 2.30.

Learn how to optimize Unreal Engine for VR with powerful built-in features and settings such as Instanced Stereo and Forward Shading. Epic Games de...

▶ Play video

real needle Jun 11, 2020, 4:32 PM

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@covert ferry I never knew that part however as them lights only really being what is offered in unreal engine 4 apart from point light if there is an issue with them there must be a fix somewhere

covert ferry Jun 11, 2020, 4:34 PM

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There is a few options and likely some work around for the one with issues.
Hope you figure it out :D
I'm learning all about optimizations now so I'm too new to it to say one way or another.

covert ferry Jun 11, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Is it possible to day outright that vr projects should be using forward rendering ?

tired tree Jun 11, 2020, 5:26 PM

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in most cases

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not all

covert ferry Jun 11, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Thank you @tired tree !

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Is the frame rate in the view port any kind of indication of your vr frame rate ?

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As in, if its constantly 120 in the view port, Is that a promising sign ?

cosmic shoal Jun 11, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Poor frame rate in view port means your VR game will probably be unusable, so a sustained 120fps in non VR is pretty much a must. Of course it depends on your system specs, VR originally targeted a GTX 970. If you want to export to quest even more optimization than that will be needed.

autumn magnet Jun 11, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Hello and good day, I have a question that I hope can be answered. When developing using the vive or oculus headsets, is it easy to only have one but develop for the other?

sturdy coral Jun 11, 2020, 7:00 PM

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@autumn magnet should be easier after this: https://steamcommunity.com/games/250820/announcements/detail/2396425843528787270

Steam :: SteamVR :: OpenXR Developer Preview

Valve is excited to announce our current and expanding support for OpenXR, the new industry-wide open standard for VR & AR. Thanks to The Khronos Group and the extensive hard work of OpenXR's many members (AMD, ARM, Epic, Facebook, Google, HTC, Microsoft, NVIDIA, Qualcomm, Uni...

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still beta support, but now all manufacturers have some openxr support

autumn magnet Jun 11, 2020, 7:04 PM

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thank you for your time

covert ferry Jun 11, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Is there any good tutorials out there for making a VR whiteboard ?
The one by Dean Ashford isn't for sale for some reason even though its on the market place on the internet..

I cant seem to find anything helpful on this yet I believe this kind of thing should be pretty common place by now :/

cosmic shoal Jun 11, 2020, 10:13 PM

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@covert ferry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVZS7BHSEkY

YouTube

Reuben Ward

Unreal Engine 4 Tutorial - Making a Usable Whiteboard

Join the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?c=550670&rid=874324
Any questions? Heres my twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ward_reuben

In this video we'll use Render Targets to create a usable whiteboard in UE4. Once you've finished this, you should realize the potential ...

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it's not VR but it should point you in the right direction

covert ferry Jun 11, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Thank you @cosmic shoal ! I will try to adapt it for VR!

sturdy coral Jun 11, 2020, 11:39 PM

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@covert ferry mitch's vr content examples has a whiteboard

hard relic Jun 12, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Damned, Help. Hi. Do you know why my Dynamic Shadow are shown only when i pitch down my helmet and diseaper as soon i'm looking forward ??

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It's on a Quest. Android ES 3.1. My light is a Moveable Directionnal Light.

magic parrot Jun 12, 2020, 5:34 AM

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hello all

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I'm trying to add a dragon model from marketplace to my VR project, but I can't seem to be able to see it when build and lunch in the headset, do you know why?

real eagle Jun 12, 2020, 5:54 AM

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Hey . Is it possible to get a VR (split screen stereo vr view) view in mobile in a AR session .

covert ferry Jun 12, 2020, 7:13 AM

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Thank you @sturdy coral
I believe it is for version 4.22
Would I have to download that version of ue4 to open the file ?

I am just assuming that I wont have the knowledge to port it over to 4.24.2 unless it is literally just a case of copy/pasting nodes.

tired tree Jun 12, 2020, 12:24 PM

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@covert ferry generally for all BP projects it should translate

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with small effort

covert ferry Jun 12, 2020, 12:28 PM

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@tired tree Hey, I have actually downloaded the file and got it working fine (it gave me the option to open in my version).
I cant get it to work when I migrate the parts into my own project though, and I don't think I have the knowledge to make it work.
I tried to migrate what I believed to be all the related items but to no avail.

hard relic Jun 12, 2020, 1:11 PM

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Damned, Help. Hi. Do you know why my Dynamic Shadow are shown only when i pitch down my helmet and diseaper as soon i'm looking forward ??
@hard relic Fixed: my dynamic Shadow Distance MoveableLight was 20000 and not 2000

granite idol Jun 12, 2020, 1:13 PM

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Quick question, any key words on how to get my vr hand to play a proper montage to grabbing a stick. I want to go from "about to grab" to transition to hand parented to object

eternal inlet Jun 12, 2020, 2:01 PM

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I haven't noticed much pop-in with hzb but I've heard it can happen
@sturdy coral I haven't seen it on Vive either, but noticed it quite a lot on Index

real needle Jun 12, 2020, 2:49 PM

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I have this very small room which when I building lighting the Frame of the door goes black but the room remains normal ?

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after light build

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cancel that i can see it when I go into the VR the frame is lite by the light just when I look in editor it's not lit

real needle Jun 12, 2020, 3:23 PM

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can any help

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not sure why but i am getting when attempting to test launch in UE 4 one eye in the quest is very weird doesn't look right

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if i play with VR preview it works fine except for portal door camera view issue thing

sonic lake Jun 12, 2020, 4:30 PM

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@real needle if you have a mesh that turns black after you build the lights, usually it means it has no UV map. Check in the mesh editor. It should have 2 UV maps, one from the 3D software and one created by Unreal to bake the lights.

real needle Jun 12, 2020, 4:43 PM

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it's standard frame thats in starter content which does have one

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the other thing is as you can see in picture the oculus headset seems to have gone wierd after me placing in a Portal door effect kind of thing

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@sonic lake have you made projects in VR before as if you have I may need to call on your expertise

sonic lake Jun 12, 2020, 4:46 PM

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@real needle I may have done a project or two... 😉

real needle Jun 12, 2020, 4:47 PM

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awsome

sonic lake Jun 12, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Then it is not a UV problem. Materials may not be appropriate for the Quest, there are some limitations. First check that you have the proper project settings.

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Did you follow the project setup from the Oculus documentation?

real needle Jun 12, 2020, 4:48 PM

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i'm new to VR and new to creatign things in a way they will be fine for Oculus to handle

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I have followed a youtube video online which someone has done which follows documentation but involses some slight differences which apparently the documnetation dosen't say etc

sonic lake Jun 12, 2020, 4:51 PM

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@real needle First thing is to try with the Standard VR template, applying all the Oculus settings. Check that it works fine.

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Then switch back to your project.

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https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/unreal/unreal-quick-start-guide-quest/#configure

Oculus Quest and Go: Quick Start

Describes a quick start for Oculus Quest and Go development in Unreal.

real needle Jun 12, 2020, 4:56 PM

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yeah that's just doing it's for package for android now with nothing being changed to begin with

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@sonic lake one thing I am slightly confused at as different poeple say different things this has worked in previous project attempts

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however is this something good to do or is setting all three paths reccomed. I know leaving emtpy they defult to certain locations

sonic lake Jun 12, 2020, 5:03 PM

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These are my settings

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@real needle

real needle Jun 12, 2020, 5:14 PM

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@sonic lake what version of UE 4 are you usig for VR at the moment ??

sonic lake Jun 12, 2020, 5:15 PM

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4.24.x

real needle Jun 12, 2020, 5:19 PM

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would you say for now i'm prob best sticking with 4.24 when it comes to VR

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i'm not sure if VR is fully stable yet in 4,25 thats thing ?

covert ferry Jun 12, 2020, 7:00 PM

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I am making a tutorial for my project using widgets.
I have tried to follow tutorials on getting media (short videos) to play within the widgets or even on a static mesh but for some reason the videos do not play...

cosmic shoal Jun 12, 2020, 7:14 PM

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The process is clunky but it works, I've gotten video to play in VR no problem.

fleet plume Jun 12, 2020, 8:23 PM

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anybody built a quest project for 4.25.1 yet?

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did that this afternoon and now the GPU takes ~50ms/frame to render when deployed to the quest

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up from <10ms/frame

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anybody had a similar experience (and maybe solved it)?

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oh and some materials don't even show up when running on the device - yet they haven't been changed in the switch from 4.24 to 4.25

covert ferry Jun 12, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Can I remove the (Lighting needs to be built for 10 actors)
from my VR viewport, so it doesn't distract people who are trying out my VR project ?

sturdy coral Jun 12, 2020, 11:11 PM

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@covert ferry do a shipping build and it won't be there, better to fix the lighting issue though because it will impact performance usually

bright drift Jun 13, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Does anyone know how to set up Unreal Insights for Oculus Quest profiling if there is no UE4CommandLine.txt on the device?

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I think it might have been removed in 4.25

sweet oracle Jun 13, 2020, 3:23 AM

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Anyone tried tracking origin eye level for steamvr?

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it seems to be buggy... works fine in oculus sdk

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trying to set seated mode

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so using eye level tracking for that

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@fleet plume are you on steamvr or oculus sdk

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oculus sdk has a bit of performance issues that i noticed post 4.24

hard relic Jun 13, 2020, 3:09 PM

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@covert ferry I plan to do this kind of SlowMotion with a Multiply values to all moving things except the pawn...

covert ferry Jun 13, 2020, 3:15 PM

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Hey @hard relic
I figured out how to do it so I will be removing my post.

But in short, I had a time Dilation set up globally when I only needed to slow down 1 actor in the scene.
I put it up in the level BP as
Input event > get actors of class > set custom time Dilation.

My end result is that holding down a trigger slows time (until it is released)

And pressing the B button is connected to a flip flop node allowing me to toggle the play/pause side of things (I couldn't find a way to pause so instead I used a custom time Dilation with 0.000001 as the dilation)

This essentially looks like I have frozen the character when B is pressed.

hard relic Jun 13, 2020, 3:28 PM

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@covert ferry that's look like a way better than my way. I will try to implement that. Thank you for the tip

covert ferry Jun 13, 2020, 3:31 PM

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no problem @hard relic, you'll get the result you are looking for!

tired tree Jun 13, 2020, 5:39 PM

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@covert ferry @hard relic can inverse the timescale on the player character as well and still stay full speed while global time scale is lowered

dry meadow Jun 13, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Hello there,

I'm trying to make my first VR project in Unreal (4.21), and I've got a major problem that I can't figure out -- my view in both the editor and VR headset is just constantly spinning? Like I can't get it to stop moving.

Anyone got any suggestions?

covert ferry Jun 13, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Thank you for the knowledge @tired tree !

dry meadow Jun 13, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Figured out my issue -- in a way, but please @ me if you have better solutions.

The only way that we could fix the spinning was by unplugging my VR headset. That makes editing a VR game far more cumbersome, so if anyone has any ideas I'm all ears

real needle Jun 13, 2020, 8:09 PM

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need help if someone dosen't mind helping

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in VR I have translation setup so the user can move around using thumbstick

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but i want it so they can't "walk" off the edge of an object

hard relic Jun 13, 2020, 8:32 PM

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can inverse the timescale on the player character as well and still stay full speed while global time scale is lowered
@tired tree thank you!

chilly pasture Jun 13, 2020, 8:58 PM

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@real needle setup collisions ?

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use blockin volumes

chilly pasture Jun 13, 2020, 9:14 PM

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@dry meadow you Camera is spinning or whole Pawn is spinning.

real needle Jun 13, 2020, 9:28 PM

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so would it be nav mesh covering the whole area then just blocking volumes on the parts of the mesh I'm not wanting people to be able to teleport onto

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also how can I do it so they can't move through mesh, I've placed in a capsule component with standard collision you would have if it were standard player manaquin etc

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I'm not 100% sure whether its camera turning all whole pawn

covert ferry Jun 14, 2020, 8:41 AM

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I remember seeing a demo video of a vr world being rendered only in front of the player (and everything out of sight being culled until the are looking in that direction again)

Is this an automatic feature or something I need to look into ?

Sorry, still new to this!

sonic lake Jun 14, 2020, 3:24 PM

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@covert ferry it's called tunnel vision. Not sure this is still be applicable, but just to get an idea

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzXReAmV-yA

YouTube

The Unrealist

Recreated: Google Earth VR Tunnel Vision Effect in Unreal Engine 4 ...

(Note, this is a repost. Now with licensed theme music!) This tutorial shows how to recreate the “tunnel vision” travel effect from Google Earth VR using Unreal Engine. I demonstrate the use of the material nodes Camera Depth Fade, Custom Depth, Scene Depth and others.

You ca...

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covert ferry Jun 14, 2020, 3:32 PM

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Thank you @sonic lake !
I was hoping to figure out if I can squeeze out some extra performance if most of the map was not rendered in when a player is not looking in that general direction.

sonic lake Jun 14, 2020, 3:33 PM

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@covert ferry Then I don't think this will do it. Are you CPU bound or GPU bound?

covert ferry Jun 14, 2020, 4:54 PM

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I have to be honest @sonic lake
This is my first project so I am going to have to learn to profile in this next couple of days so I can get that kind of information.

I was just preemptively enquiring about the culling as I was assuming you can never run 'too' smoothly I would assume ?

The project play tests well and feels stable. But now it is time to learn these things, especially with the fact I would like to try and get it working on the quest..

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I know the quest has limitations, but I am hoping I will be able to get away with a lot because the levels are so small, with such a little amount going on under the hood in terms of tick/bp etc ..

placid spear Jun 14, 2020, 4:56 PM

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@covert ferry I believe the feature you’re referring to (ie frustrum culling) is enabled by default.

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https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Engine/Rendering/VisibilityCulling/index.html

Visibility and Occlusion Culling

An overview of Visibility and Occlusion Culling methods in Unreal Engine 4.

covert ferry Jun 14, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Thank you @placid spear !
I will look at that now.

dry lodge Jun 14, 2020, 5:06 PM

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quiet vector Jun 14, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Not sure if this or multiplayer channel is more appropriate, but anyone ever do replication for IK hands and custom movement?

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I used unreal engine way way long ago like 15-20 years, and recently have been reading on current state, and I think I have a pretty good understanding of the different types of replication, but before I start diving in I'm curious on a more conceptual level how people have tried (and perhaps failed) to do this. For example if I replicate the hand positions of each character, upon receiving those I can simply set the new hand positions but then it will presumably be jumpy. I can lerp it, but ideally you'd lerp until the time of the next update, but you don't really know that, so perhaps you just pick a speed?

quick cliff Jun 15, 2020, 2:07 AM

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@quiet vector from my understanding it would be just getting it the client tranform information and replicating on the server for all to see. if you want it to be accurate for immersion sake i would do it on tick

quiet vector Jun 15, 2020, 2:09 AM

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that's kinda what I'm thinking, I basically have 4 transforms (scale unused) to represent the player root and also the head and both hands

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but somehow that seems too obvious or simple, like there must be something more to it

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and for the owned pawn I was thinking of doing mostly local code, but sending enough to server to so that it can check for irregularities or cheating, so that I can (hopefully) avoid local prediction and move queue and all that jazz

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since the local pawn needs to move essentially instantly to be in sync with the players actions

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gonna think about this tonight, but if anyone has any suggestions please let me know

naive canyon Jun 15, 2020, 3:46 AM

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I've been having some issues with bindings and the index controllers. For some reason the thumbstick position vector2 list is always empty. Kind of hard to map my character movements if they dont show up in the vector2 list in steam controller bindings

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Is this a known issue with the latest release?

sturdy coral Jun 15, 2020, 4:09 AM

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@naive canyon you have to name the action ending in _X and _Y for it to generate right

sturdy coral Jun 15, 2020, 5:14 AM

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@quiet vector https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_Multiplayer_Networking#Entity_interpolation

Source Multiplayer Networking

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https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/marketplace/1492482-smooth-sync-sync-your-transforms-smoothly-across-the-network#post1776061

Unreal Engine Forums

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Link to Marketplace (https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/smooth-sync)

Hey! I didn't see any way to sync from client owned objects

naive canyon Jun 15, 2020, 7:22 AM

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@sturdy coral thanks, that fixed the issue for one of the projects I was messing with.

real eagle Jun 15, 2020, 11:31 AM

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how can we disable Vr mode while using simple HMD plugin? The normal Enable HMD node is not working

storm hare Jun 15, 2020, 12:39 PM

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where is this button on 4.25

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cannot find it and I have a Assertion failed: Key.IsValid() when I try to run my game that i migrated to 4.25

quiet vector Jun 15, 2020, 2:32 PM

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@sturdy coral thanks I will take a look. Then implement, then figure out how the hell to test it lol

magic parrot Jun 15, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Hey, how can I enable Play Haptic Effect Blueprint, I can't seem to find it. I can see the Force Feedback Effect though

opaque gorge Jun 15, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Hey everybody I have a simple question. I've been trying to find out how to switch VR hands any kind of hands or hand like message I can make? If anybody has a video about this please let me know because I can't seem to find one.

hallow knoll Jun 15, 2020, 7:36 PM

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@magic parrot Turn off "context sensitive" in the API library (when you right click in the event graph), or drag out from your player controller reference. The function is in APlayerController, not APawn.

cedar token Jun 15, 2020, 8:23 PM

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@storm hare If you go to project settings and search for 'steam' there will be a check box for 'Show Steam Vr Input Toolbar Button'

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Sorry if this has been asked, but I'm stuck. My VR project (4.25.1) works as expected when launched from the engine. When packaged though, the controller motion tracking is working fine, but all the bindings are missing on the buttons. Is anyone else having this issue? I tried just loading up Epic's default VR scene and just packaging it (made sure to check start in VR), and got the same result.

magic parrot Jun 15, 2020, 10:31 PM

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@hallow knoll Thank you 🙂

opaque gorge Jun 16, 2020, 1:41 AM

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I've been trying to find out how to switch VR hands any kind of hands can someone help?

eternal inlet Jun 16, 2020, 8:03 AM

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Im gonna make a camera controller for pilotting a virtual camera around for a vr scene (trailer), and for that i want to use either a ps3 controller or xbox controller. Which one would you guys recommend getting?

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(reason i cant use the mouse and keyboard, is that i use that for a pc-player)

blissful bear Jun 16, 2020, 9:17 AM

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Xbox controller for sure.

covert ferry Jun 16, 2020, 9:45 AM

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Does anyone know of any courses which talk/walk you through the general optimization process of a project ?
I know its different in every project.
Something that would advise you where to look and what to do in certain scenarios.

I know it is a subject with a TON of parts, but if I can get a general idea, at least I will know where I need to branch off/do further learning for which points...

If I am making sense ?
I'm not asking a crazy question like "How do I optomise my game"
I just need pointing in the general direction..

chilly pasture Jun 16, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Hi Guys,
Anyone who has done something with Hand Tracking for Oculus quest.

I need to know if we can toggle between hand tracking and Controller from inside the code ?

brittle salmon Jun 16, 2020, 11:06 AM

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what's up with wmr input not going through at all for some buttons

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none of the trackpad buttons work, neither do menu buttons

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4.25

radiant garden Jun 16, 2020, 2:36 PM

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@brittle salmon Did you setup actions for the WMR inputs?

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I've been having a similar issue for SteamVR where my Index inputs are not registered as button presses but the actions using them still are firing.

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@covert ferry I'm no expert on optimization by any stretch, but I can give a few tips

covert ferry Jun 16, 2020, 2:46 PM

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thank you @radiant garden !

radiant garden Jun 16, 2020, 2:46 PM

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First off, measure, measure, measure, and then measure some more. Don't optimize something unless you are certain it needs optimizing. Then have metrics before your optimization and metrics for after your optimization.

covert ferry Jun 16, 2020, 2:47 PM

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as in measure for scale ? @radiant garden

radiant garden Jun 16, 2020, 2:47 PM

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By nature, optimization tends to increase complexity. Increased complexity is harder to maintain. Thus "premature optimization is the root of all evil" (and I am a very evil bas!@#$ in this regard)

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The measure depends on what you are looking at

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Time spent on the CPU, how long it takes to render each frame in ms (FPS is not a good metric for optimization)

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In formal software engineering schools you learn about big O notation. In a nutshell it is a measure of the computational complexity of a given algorithm. You can find a lot of resources online on big O - frequenly expressed as a function of O, IE O(N)

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I've only just begun working with UE4, so I don't have any experience with the optimization tools available. However I know there is a way to enable a visualizer that renders the relative complexity of each of your shaders on a colored scale

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Always optimize where ever your bottleneck is. Ideally this should move the bottleneck somewhere else. Then you optimize at that somewhere else, until you get to the performance metric you want

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There are undoubtedly some "best practices" in regards to performance UE4, however I am new enough to the engine that I cannot say much about what they are.

covert ferry Jun 16, 2020, 3:18 PM

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thank you @radiant garden that's some great information!
I will follow it as best as I can, I think they are some great principles to get me started.

cosmic shoal Jun 16, 2020, 3:52 PM

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@covert ferry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-6EMTjzvns this is how they optimized robo recall for quest, there is also a talk about superhot optimization, it's not for Unreal, but many principles apply https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr35o5R7EMA

YouTube

Unreal Engine

How Drifter Optimized & Delivered Robo Recall for Oculus Quest | Un...

In this presentation by Drifter's Matt Tonks and Ray Davis, the duo reveal how their small team tackled the challenge of porting Epic's robust Robo Recall to Oculus Quest without suffering and loss in gameplay. Topics covered include profiling performance budgets, game-thread ...

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Oculus

SUPERHOT VR on Quest: From 100W to 4W in 12 Months

Programmers Dr. Luke Thompson and Mark Schramm take you on a (mostly) chronological journey to get their award-winning VR game running on a standalone HMD, and making it the best version to date. This talk will include the technical hurdles, triumphs, hints, tips and mistakes ...

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covert ferry Jun 16, 2020, 3:53 PM

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thank you @cosmic shoal !

rocky latch Jun 16, 2020, 4:23 PM

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how do I enable unreal insight trace on oculus quest?

shrewd cobalt Jun 16, 2020, 7:17 PM

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👋

rotund mountain Jun 16, 2020, 7:45 PM

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any one here ?

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some one can help me with camera

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settings

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?

rotund mountain Jun 16, 2020, 8:26 PM

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after package camera behind my game object, but on game engine all works nice

radiant garden Jun 17, 2020, 3:29 AM

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is there a way to swap a player controller?

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I'm trying to figure out how to have a VR and non-VR mode to my game

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Mostly for testing

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It's looking like I would need one giant player controller to capture motion controller inputs as well as keyboard / gamepad inputs

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I was hoping there could be VrPlayerController and PancakePlayerController, or somesuch

magic parrot Jun 17, 2020, 4:17 AM

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how do you add a 'K2 Get Root Component' in Blurprint?

lament mesa Jun 17, 2020, 9:00 AM

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Hi Devs I pulled the fork of ARCore UE4.21 repo and build it, there were some errors which were persisting in the build, some generic ones which I'm not sure how to fix. I forgot how did I fixed it before. Can you guys help me ? Here is the link of the log : https://gist.github.com/Pranavpaharia/897b22a9ff2a67c205a11bd149fda8b1

More errors are:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\10\include\10.0.18362.0\shared\ndis/version.h(7): error C4668: 'NDIS_MINIPORT_MAJOR_VERSION' is not defined as a preprocessor macro, replacing with '0' for '#if/#elif'

E:\GithubRepo\UnrealEngineARCore\Engine\Source\Editor\MovieSceneTools\Private\FCPXML\FCPXMLExport.cpp(1058): error C4800: Implicit conversion from 'const wchar_t *' to bool. Possible information loss 4> E:\GithubRepo\UnrealEngineARCore\Engine\Source\Editor\MovieSceneTools\Private\FCPXML\FCPXMLExport.cpp(1058): note: consider using explicit cast or comparison to nullptr to avoid this warning

E:\GithubRepo\UnrealEngineARCore\Engine\Source\Runtime\Core\Public\Misc/Attribute.h(43): error C4800: Implicit conversion from 'const OtherType' to bool. Possible information loss 4> with 4> [ 4> OtherType=bool (__cdecl FBodyInstanceCustomizationHelper::* )(void) const 4> ]

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ARCore Unreal Engine build log file

ARCore Unreal Engine build log file. GitHub Gist: instantly share code, notes, and snippets.

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UnrealBuildTool : error : UBT ERROR: Failed to produce item: E:\GithubRepo\UnrealEngineARCore\Engine\Intermediate\Build\Win64\UE4Editor\Development\Sockets\UE4Editor-Sockets.lib 4> (see ../Programs/UnrealBuildTool/Log.txt for full exception trace)

spring imp Jun 17, 2020, 9:23 AM

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Does anyone know where to download Epic's "Unreal Face" app as mentioned in https://docs.unrealengine.com/ko/Engine/Animation/FacialRecordingiPhone/index.html ?

Recording Facial Animation from an iPhone X

Use the Unreal Face app, ARKit, and Live Link to capture facial animations and apply them to characters in Unreal Engine.

torpid hawk Jun 17, 2020, 11:35 AM

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some know how i can split my pc screen, I want to my my own VR glasses and I dont know how i can split my pc screen. If someone knows how to do it i'll be very greatful

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something like these

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is it possible?

radiant garden Jun 17, 2020, 11:49 AM

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You are looking for side by side (sbs) rendering. Not sure how to do it in UE4, but there are several programs that can do that. It really depends on what exactly you are trying to accomplish

thick plaza Jun 17, 2020, 12:36 PM

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anyone know why my steamvr_manifest.json isn't created or anything for that matter happens when i click on regenerate action manifest/controller manifest

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i switched from 4.23 to 4.25 a while ago and i'vebeen having this problem for a while

torpid hawk Jun 17, 2020, 12:42 PM

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thanks

hot willow Jun 17, 2020, 1:39 PM

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Good morning @tired tree! Is there a way to allow the VR player to climb on physics objects? Kind of like human fall flat to a small degree

tired tree Jun 17, 2020, 1:46 PM

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literally climb, or stand

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because yes and yes, but specifically the standing part you have to be super careful with

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@hot willow

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https://vreue4.com/documentation?section=character-tips scroll to the physics character interaction section

VR Expansion Plugin

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VR Expansion Plugin Documentation

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its off by default due to the hazards of letting it happen normally

hot willow Jun 17, 2020, 1:48 PM

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Thank you! You're an absolute legend!

ionic jetty Jun 17, 2020, 3:11 PM

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Heya anyone here work with quest finger tracking?

real needle Jun 17, 2020, 4:00 PM

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Hi guys and gals could I ask for some help please

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVZS7BHSEkY - i'm following this tutorial to create a whiteboard I can write on in VR

YouTube

Reuben Ward

Unreal Engine 4 Tutorial - Making a Usable Whiteboard

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However this being the code I've done in motion controller pawn it dosen't seem to work

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am I placing this code in right place ??

hybrid plume Jun 17, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Use print strings to debug where it’s not working

mighty carbon Jun 17, 2020, 7:31 PM

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also, wasn't there a visual debugger for Blueprints ?

silk lodge Jun 17, 2020, 9:04 PM

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@real needle if you're running VR, alt tab back to unreal to view the live bp debugging

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 3:46 AM

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@rocky latch I asked about Unreal Insight on Quest on the forums a while ago and never got a response

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It's one of those things that was once documented, but the process changed since then due to updates and nobody ever updated the docs

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So there are no instructions on that for Quest on 4.25

surreal bramble Jun 18, 2020, 3:56 AM

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Anyone know what happened to option to create Haptic Effect assets? All the haptic-related assets seem to have disappeared from the menu? A Haptic Effect Curve still seems to exist in the VR template, but AFAICT there's no way to create these assets from scratch?

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dupe question here https://forums.unrealengine.com/development-discussion/vr-ar-development/1775438-haptic-feedback-effect-in-4-25

Unreal Engine Forums

A few engine versions ago, there was a possibility to add haptic feedback effects under Add New -> Miscellaneous -> Haptic Feedback Effect <something>, like below:

This option is missing now:

Where did it go? How do I create haptic feedback on the newer engine version (4.25 ...

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https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/unreal/unreal-haptics/

The OVRHaptics API is deprecated and only included for legacy support purposes.

So maybe the haptics stuff was developed by Oculus and they didn't keep supporting it so UE pulled the feature?

Haptics for Touch Controllers

Describes adding haptic feedback to Unreal apps.

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❓ Alternative question
How to do curve-based haptics for Oculus Touch controllers? (using non-deprecated tools)

rocky latch Jun 18, 2020, 4:13 AM

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@bright drift From what I understoon at Unreal Docs, if I launch the executable with these parameters "-cpuprofilertrace -tracefile=/sdcard/UE4Game/foobar.utrace" it should dump the info on that file. Supposedly I could push a file called UE4CommandLine.txt to /sdcard/UE4Game/ with the arguments, but that didn't work for me 😒 the arguments seemed to be ignored (tried -NoSound and failed)

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 4:16 AM

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That file is supposed to already be there, and you can add the launch params to it, but they took that out at some point

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I never figured out how to launch an android app with params when you don't know the main launch activity name or something

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Tbh I'm just putting all the Quest stuff off until I've determined whether or not I'd even be able to publish to their store, because my only option otherwise is SideQuest, which I'm still kinda on the fence about

rocky latch Jun 18, 2020, 5:31 AM

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tbh Im saying quest, but I'm really developing to PicoNeo. I assume that they are similar but don't know if that could be the reason why UE4commandline is not working, guess not

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I didn't know that you could sell on sidequest : 0

humble pasture Jun 18, 2020, 6:29 AM

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Hey PEEPS!!! I am new to VR and recently got me a Oculus Quest. I want to tackle some VR projects on UE but I cant get UE to 'play in VR mode'. Any advice? or if you have a step by step web page or something?

sonic lake Jun 18, 2020, 7:09 AM

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@humble pasture You launch the project on the device. Fully described in the documentation, let me know if you need links to it.

humble pasture Jun 18, 2020, 7:13 AM

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@sonic lake Hey please if you can give me links I'd be so grateful. struggling for 2 days to figure out how to set it up

sonic lake Jun 18, 2020, 7:19 AM

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@humble pasture check the engine documentation or on Oculus: https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/unreal/unreal-quick-start-guide-quest

Oculus Quest and Go: Quick Start

Describes a quick start for Oculus Quest and Go development in Unreal.

humble pasture Jun 18, 2020, 7:21 AM

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@sonic lake Thank you so much!! I really appreciate this

violet musk Jun 18, 2020, 8:35 AM

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@rocky latch @bright drift The setup here in the middle of the page worked for me to get Unreal Insight working, but I haven't tried on 4.25. https://medium.com/realities-io/oculus-quest-performance-tools-in-unreal-engine-2210f2581c8f

Medium

Oculus Quest Performance Tools in Unreal Engine

Quick guide on setting up performance tools such as Unreal Frontend, Unreal Insights, OVR Metric Tools, Logcats and Render Doc for the…

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 8:37 AM

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@violet musk that's what we were both talking about

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step 2 references a file, UE4CommandLine.txt, that is not present in 4.25

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so there's no way to tell the quest app about the tracehost

violet musk Jun 18, 2020, 8:39 AM

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I guess you need the SessionId you mean?

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To recreate it

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 8:41 AM

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no

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you need a means of telling the unreal app that we want to log the trace insight info locally

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neither of us figured out a way to do that without that command line file because it was removed

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the main issue seems to be that the workflow for this was changed, but the documentation wasn't updated to reflect it

violet musk Jun 18, 2020, 8:42 AM

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Well, I'm looking at its contents on my 4.24 version here. So you mean it is not even being used anymore?

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I see

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 8:42 AM

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UE4CommandLine.txt is nowhere to be found

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I've looked through all the different files that actually are there, and none of them appear to be analogues for it

violet musk Jun 18, 2020, 8:44 AM

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That's great.. 4.25 has been nothing but problems so far : P

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 8:44 AM

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well, it's been fine for me

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it's quest development that's a pain due to the lack of documentation for IMO fundamental things like profiling

violet musk Jun 18, 2020, 8:45 AM

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I had stuff like flickering dynamic shadows on it, increased shader compile times and editor freezing while compiling (even freezing my 3D application additionally). Re-compiling when restarting my project and opening up an old master material.

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Those haptics that errata is talking about are missing.

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📎 UE425_OculusBranch_CompileError.png

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And I just woke up to the 4.25 Oculus branch compiling with errors.

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 8:47 AM

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I dunno anything about the oculus branch

violet musk Jun 18, 2020, 8:47 AM

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Which I was hoping provides the haptic features.

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 8:47 AM

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but it sounds like that's an oculus problem rather than an Epic one

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dunno about the haptics thing though, haven't tried that yet

violet musk Jun 18, 2020, 8:47 AM

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The oculus branch has a much more up to date OVR plugin

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With hand tracking and other stuff

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Official UE 4.25 is 5 versions behind

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https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/unreal/unreal-compatibility-matrix/

Version Compatibility Reference

Overview of the Unreal editor configuration and components.

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And I'm assuming the haptics will be in that version again.

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 8:50 AM

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have you tried Force Feedback?

violet musk Jun 18, 2020, 8:52 AM

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Yeah

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Nothing happens on the Quest Controllers

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 8:52 AM

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damn

violet musk Jun 18, 2020, 8:53 AM

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That new project I'm working on is only a week old. Might just rip it all out and go back to 4.24.1

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 8:53 AM

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I wouldn't recommend it

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it seems highly unlikely that haptic feedback is entirely broken in 4.25

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but I have seen worse regressions 🤷🏾‍♂️

violet musk Jun 18, 2020, 8:56 AM

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The assets aren't there in the content browser. Somebody said to copy over the asset. But I also don't see any "Haptic" functions to execute in blueprints.

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Why would you not recommend it tho? Is there anything crazy in 4.25 for Quest? I wanted to go to 4.25 because the hand tracking implementation was officially supported now. Before I relied on a third party plugin.

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 8:59 AM

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definitely take what I said with a grain of salt

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I'd recommend using the latest version if you're starting a new project, generally speaking

violet musk Jun 18, 2020, 8:59 AM

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Usually using the latest version isn't a good idea because of things like this breaking 😂

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 8:59 AM

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specifically, it might be better for you to use an older version, but given the reason...

violet musk Jun 18, 2020, 8:59 AM

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But we do try anyways ;)

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 9:00 AM

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if haptics are really broken, then you can't ship a VR game in 4.25

violet musk Jun 18, 2020, 9:04 AM

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I'm sure there are people who can work it out. Mainly doing BP I'm not one of them.

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 9:04 AM

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I can't think of a good reason to remove the haptic feedback type entirely

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But I also don't see any reference to it in the 4.25 release notes

violet musk Jun 18, 2020, 9:09 AM

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Well, I don't think it would have been on purpose. Maybe got accidently left out for tests or something before release.

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 9:09 AM

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have you tried the "migrate it from the vr template" workaround?

violet musk Jun 18, 2020, 9:09 AM

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Maybe a hotfix pushes it back in.

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 9:09 AM

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if anything, it might be worth filing a bug report

violet musk Jun 18, 2020, 9:10 AM

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I only read about it here. But I didn't see any functions to call for haptics in UE 4.25, so I don't know if you can even do anything with that asset.

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 9:10 AM

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considering this bug currently, afaik, prevents every VR dev in 4.25 from using haptics at all (not just oculus), it's probably gonna go in the next hotfix

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hm, you know what

violet musk Jun 18, 2020, 9:10 AM

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hopefully

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 9:11 AM

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I just checked, and found a Play Steam VR Haptic Feedback node

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I think oculus and steam vr handle haptics differently in the backend, so they probably changed it

violet musk Jun 18, 2020, 9:13 AM

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A single steam one yes

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 9:13 AM

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cause I'm willing to bet this steam vr node would work fine for me

violet musk Jun 18, 2020, 9:13 AM

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Everything else is missing

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If you're not using the Quest etc you might be good :p

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 9:13 AM

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there should be some oculus analogue for it in the oculus build

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given that you apparently can't ship on oculus with the epic game store build anyway, that's probably it

violet musk Jun 18, 2020, 9:14 AM

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That's why I'm trying to build this oculus branch. But no idea about those errors :(

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Oh really?

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 9:14 AM

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it's weird that you're getting build errors in hololens files on the oculus branch

violet musk Jun 18, 2020, 9:15 AM

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You mean using EGS or just having the functionality active?

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 9:15 AM

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I mean the binary version of UE4 you can grab from EGS has a very out of date oculus plugin, so you probably can't ship with it anyway

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I'd assume you're expected to use the oculus build to ship for those platforms

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which should have whatever the current haptics system is built in via the updated plugin

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assuming that's why they got rid of the cross-platform HapticFeedbackEffect class

violet musk Jun 18, 2020, 9:18 AM

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Yep

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I don't need to ship personally, it's an off the shelf thing, but yeah.

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 9:18 AM

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oh, you mean sidequest?

violet musk Jun 18, 2020, 9:18 AM

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Select customer headsets

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 9:18 AM

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oh

violet musk Jun 18, 2020, 9:19 AM

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Will be installed in a show room kind of thing on multiple devices.

bright drift Jun 18, 2020, 9:19 AM

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cool

hard relic Jun 18, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Sometimes, my level start but i do not have my controller. Do you know what i'm doing wrong...? I'm on Quest / U4 4.24.3

sonic lake Jun 18, 2020, 3:26 PM

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@hard relic Not spawning/possessing your pawn. Or your hands may be stuck somewhere under the floor.

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Or a tracking issue.

hard relic Jun 18, 2020, 3:29 PM

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aaah sometimes it seems that i'm starting under the environnement mesh. I was thinking that it was not a problem for the moment but it may be the reason i lost my controller, right?

signal ocean Jun 18, 2020, 4:23 PM

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@sonic lake I saw your forum post on rotation, and how to not make the pawn move when rotating, unfortunately I don't think it works anymre. Could you possibly explain it to me?

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Or even show a simpler solution if possible.

sonic lake Jun 18, 2020, 4:26 PM

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@signal ocean you mean room scale rotation? I just published a YouTube tut on that.

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https://youtu.be/1rQvPnKvlfk

YouTube

Marco Ghislanzoni

VR Snap Turn with Room Scale Support Tutorial - Unreal Engine 4

Learn how to make a snap turn function for your VR projects which supports Room Scale movements. Even if your player moves in real life the rotation will always happen around the current HMD location.

Jump to 8:00 to skip the theory and go straight to the implementation

#vr ...

▶ Play video

signal ocean Jun 18, 2020, 4:35 PM

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oh, thank you!

signal ocean Jun 18, 2020, 5:56 PM

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@sonic lake really weird thing happening, I converted it to cpp and made a mistake using roll instead of yaw. Roll worked, i figured it out and switched it to yaw. But for some reason, yaw is not working at all - bps or cpp. Here's the code.

📎 unknown.png

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nvm - figured it out. I have to disable bUseControllerYawRotation

sonic lake Jun 18, 2020, 6:32 PM

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@signal ocean good you fixed it. Is it working now?

signal ocean Jun 18, 2020, 6:52 PM

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@sonic lake unfortunately it still moves the pawn on rotation... no idea why

sonic lake Jun 18, 2020, 6:55 PM

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@signal ocean I need to check the composition of transforms in C++

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Maybe the order is reversed

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No it is fine, it is A * B

signal ocean Jun 18, 2020, 6:57 PM

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could it be from me interping?

sonic lake Jun 18, 2020, 6:57 PM

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your first step is wrong

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wait

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It's GetActorTransform() * NewTransform.Inverse()

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NewTransform2 = GetActorTransform() * NewTransform.Inverse()

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Order matters

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It does. A LOT.

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Composition of Transforms is non commutative.

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So A * B != B *A

signal ocean Jun 18, 2020, 6:59 PM

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ty

sonic lake Jun 18, 2020, 7:00 PM

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Check the rest of the code, make sure the order is respected

signal ocean Jun 18, 2020, 7:00 PM

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i will

sonic lake Jun 18, 2020, 7:00 PM

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Same for Rotators and Quaternions by the way

signal ocean Jun 18, 2020, 7:00 PM

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kk

signal ocean Jun 18, 2020, 8:12 PM

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@sonic lake works perfectly now. Thank you very much!

sonic lake Jun 18, 2020, 8:13 PM

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@signal ocean great! You are welcome.

fierce sphinx Jun 18, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Is it better or worse making your game in vr (if it is an fps)?

less competition
smaller audience
Strictly speaking from a profit perspective for the solo indie dev.

radiant garden Jun 18, 2020, 10:10 PM

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There are a few VR FPS games that have a pretty strong hold on the VR market

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Because mod support

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And there a several VR FPS games that have died because online only and not enough players to keep match making smooth

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I don't really play FPS myself, so I can't recall specific names

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Pavlov is one of the more popular games, I think

fierce sphinx Jun 18, 2020, 10:52 PM

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It seems like vr is one of those things that will (in the future) either dominate or tank. I can't tell which one it will be at this time.

somber tinsel Jun 18, 2020, 10:53 PM

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I'm fine with it just kinda vibing alongside PC gaming

pine nimbus Jun 18, 2020, 11:15 PM

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Anyone have advice for inputs where you can pick up and drop objects which you can control

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But the object in the left hand should be controlled by the left controller, and consume whatever imputs it has

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But leaves the other controller free

radiant garden Jun 18, 2020, 11:44 PM

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@pine nimbus Maybe there is a SteamVR demo for this officially from Valve? On Unity there is a SteamVR demo that does exactly this. I'm uncertain if Valve made it for Unreal as well though.

pine nimbus Jun 19, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Alrighty will try look for such a demo

tired tree Jun 19, 2020, 12:06 PM

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@radiant garden the car controller isn't exactly what he is talking about. You can do that just fine easily in ue4, he wants to dynamically consume inputs in BP and i don't think that is possible

radiant garden Jun 19, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Oh I missed the part where they asked about consuming the input events

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https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Gameplay/Input/index.html

There's a hierarchy on this page that shows which objects will consume events before they flow to later events

Input

The Input object is responsible for converting input from the player into data in a form Actors can understand and make use of.

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Is it possible to setup some blueprint configuration to take advantage of this hierarchy to consume conditionally?

tired tree Jun 19, 2020, 3:40 PM

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I guess if you spawned an actor in to block specific actions

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but that is realllllly hackish

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when in c++ its fairly easy to do dynamically

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he wanted to block on an actor depending on which hand was holding it.

marble junco Jun 19, 2020, 4:13 PM

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Anyone else experiencing problems with the camera image that is way too dark in Android AR Apps (actually whites are blown out too - but the image from the camera app is fine, so it's a UE4 issue)?
It’s pretty much unusable for any professional use case and I wonder how other AR devs are tackling that problem.

radiant garden Jun 19, 2020, 5:37 PM

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@tired tree Do you know a way to run both VR and non-VR from the same project?

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Not at the same time

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I'm thinking like a command line parameter for builds or a different run button with PIE

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Essentially I'm looking for a good way to test functionality that doesn't necessarily require VR to work.

tired tree Jun 19, 2020, 5:52 PM

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@radiant garden you can check the current run mode in editor and not launch vr and use a proxy pawn

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its what I do and what my users do

radiant garden Jun 19, 2020, 5:56 PM

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By proxy pawn, do you mean temporarily set a different default pawn?

tired tree Jun 19, 2020, 6:04 PM

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@radiant garden subclass of the VR pawn, with controllers attached to camera

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and keyboard bindings

radiant garden Jun 19, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Oh, so you merge a "VR Pawn" and a "Pancake Pawn" into one class?

tired tree Jun 19, 2020, 6:05 PM

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i base it on the VR pawn, because if set up correctly, it uses the same functions for grasping and the like

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so its 1:1 testing aside from 6dof mechanics and framerates

radiant garden Jun 19, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Ah ok. So it is essentially a VR pawn that also has keyboard controls

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Ultimately I'll probably use your plugin, but I want to make sure I understand how all the parts come together first

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I hate not understanding how the pieces come together

blissful bear Jun 19, 2020, 6:14 PM

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Using that setup I spend surprisingly little time in vr during development. It hugely speeds things up. Recommended

radiant garden Jun 19, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Is there some way to use this to allow non-vr players to play with vr players using the same client for each?

tired tree Jun 19, 2020, 6:20 PM

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i wouldn't recommend it unless you really switch out the vr specific stuff

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but yes

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you can detect active VR, and spawn a non vr pawn

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by not recommending I meant not to use the same pawn typically

blissful bear Jun 19, 2020, 6:24 PM

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I do archviz and it's a big win offering vr and desktop in the same app. Clients love it.

radiant garden Jun 19, 2020, 7:24 PM

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@blissful bear do you have to build a completely different client binary, or is there a command line parameter you can use to launch without VR enabled?

sturdy coral Jun 19, 2020, 7:39 PM

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@radiant garden you can launch with -nohmd

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apply this pull request or steamvr/oculus runtimes may launch anyway:

https://github.com/EpicGames/UnrealEngine/pull/6980

radiant garden Jun 19, 2020, 8:14 PM

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@sturdy coral Awesome! Just what I needed. Really wish that was listed on the command line parameter documentation.

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Looks like I can even check the command line parameter passed from code to do special logic for nohmd. Is there a good way to conditionally swap out the default pawn and / or controller with a multiplayer game?

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I'm toying with the idea of having a dark souls like co- op game where one player in in VR and his friend can jump in and assist with boss fights using pancake / flat gaming.

sturdy coral Jun 19, 2020, 8:17 PM

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@radiant garden you can modify gamemode to spawn differently by checking that parameter but that will only work for singleplayer

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for multiplayer you can add a vr join parameter

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to the map URL

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I switch back and forth at runtime when taking on and off the headset instead of having a separate pawn for each

radiant garden Jun 19, 2020, 8:18 PM

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In effect does it show each player up have a different game mode?

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Sorry if I'm asking very noob questions

sturdy coral Jun 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

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game mode is only on server

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game state on clients

radiant garden Jun 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

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I'm still wrapping my head around the architecture

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Oh ok. That makes sense

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Is there a doc on map join parameters?

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It sounds like there is some kind of "on connect event" that may be used to dictate which controller to spawn

sturdy coral Jun 19, 2020, 8:20 PM

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yeah I think it is something like that

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the pawn is created after the player controlller

radiant garden Jun 19, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Sweet. If that's the general gist I should be able to track it down

sturdy coral Jun 19, 2020, 8:21 PM

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and before the player controller is created the APlayer is created I think

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and that has the url parameters in it maybe

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or the place that creates it does

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you can look for spectator stuff

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there is a similar parameter for joining as spectator

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that's what I based it on

radiant garden Jun 19, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Oh I see

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So the other event will be near that one in code

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Awesome! Thanks for the info.

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Now to get over my AP and actually start implementing things

sturdy coral Jun 19, 2020, 8:23 PM

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@radiant garden cpp // Customize incoming player based on URL options ErrorMessage = InitNewPlayer(NewPlayerController, UniqueId, Options, Portal);

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I think that line

radiant garden Jun 19, 2020, 8:23 PM

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I feel like such a noob still. I managed to blow up a test project when trying to figure out how to delete / rename / move cpp classes

sturdy coral Jun 19, 2020, 8:23 PM

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    /**
     * Customize incoming player based on URL options
     *
     * @param NewPlayerController player logging in
     * @param UniqueId unique id for this player
     * @param Options URL options that came at login
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     */
    virtual FString InitNewPlayer(APlayerController* NewPlayerController, const FUniqueNetIdRepl& UniqueId, const FString& Options, const FString& Portal = TEXT(""));```

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override that to set a vr boolean based on parameter

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then on pawn spawn, check that boolean in the player controller or player controller's player

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I think 'Options' is the URL parameter stuff

radiant garden Jun 19, 2020, 8:24 PM

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The controller gets a pawn spawn event?

sturdy coral Jun 19, 2020, 8:25 PM

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I think you override GetDefaultPawnClassForController(AController *);

radiant garden Jun 19, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Oh ok. That makes sense

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Man this is awesome. I've been so fed up with the weak sauce "OOP LIKE design" in Unity

sturdy coral Jun 19, 2020, 8:27 PM

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in the base player controller's InitNewPlayer they do:

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    bool bSpectator = FCString::Stricmp(*UGameplayStatics::ParseOption(Options, TEXT("SpectatorOnly")), TEXT("1")) == 0;
    if (bSpectator || MustSpectate(NewPlayerController))
    {
        NewPlayerController->StartSpectatingOnly();
    }```

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@radiant garden you still may want one common pawn base class in cpp with a boolean for whether it is vr or not, because the inheritence tree will get screwed up

ivory magnet Jun 19, 2020, 8:29 PM

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is there an easy way to swap controllers ?

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I need a way to set left controller as right and vice versa

sturdy coral Jun 19, 2020, 8:30 PM

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you probably want a heirarchy like

BPPawnBase : BPVRPawnBase
BPPawnBase : BP2DPawnBase```

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because otherwise if you do:

CPP2DPawn : BP2DPawn```

You can't have common BP functionality between the two BP (VR/2D) pawns easily

tired tree Jun 19, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Yeah that would be best, assuming the interactions are made generic enough to mostly be in the base

magic parrot Jun 20, 2020, 12:27 AM

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hey all, i'm trying to replicate unreal vr_template project. at the moment everything sounds identical however I can't get to show the hands when lunch the project into the headset. here I attached parts of the setup that you might be able to help me find why this happens

📎 ComponentAttach.PNG

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📎 ConstructionScript.PNG

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📎 Hand.PNG

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📎 MotionController.PNG

humble pasture Jun 20, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Hey all you cool cats and kittens!! haha I have a simple question! I am busy with a VR sword fight game project just for myself though, can I use a npc rigged for a RPG game enemy as a npc in my VR game?

radiant garden Jun 20, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Yes

surreal bramble Jun 20, 2020, 12:54 AM

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ok so update on my search for "haptic feedback effect curve asset" editor for the "Play Haptic Effect" node, I'm now running the Oculus build of UE4 and the "haptic feedback effect curve asset" editor is not in that build either. 🤷 Just seems super weird to me that this fairly fundamental feature just disappeared without a word, gotta be some politics to blame.

humble pasture Jun 20, 2020, 2:28 AM

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hey guys sorry for all the Q's!! I set up my enemy AI movements and pawn sensing, but the tutorial I am following is for a RPG game. I have an 'On See Pawn' event and have to cast it to my VR pawn. What do I have to cast it to for my VR Pawn?

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I got it for now I think! thanks anyways

sturdy coral Jun 20, 2020, 10:08 AM

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@surreal bramble probably related to: "Deprecated

Buffered haptic feedback is deprecated and only included for legacy support purposes. The API was only supported on the original configuration Rift with external tracking sensors. Non-buffered haptic feedback is still supported on both Rift and Rift S."

https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/native/pc/dg-input-touch-haptic/?locale=en_US

Haptic Feedback

Describes how to use the haptic feedback functionality of the Rift Touch Controllers.

woeful sundial Jun 20, 2020, 11:30 AM

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Anyone else experiencing problems with the camera image that is way too dark in Android AR Apps (actually whites are blown out too - but the image from the camera app is fine, so it's a UE4 issue)?
It’s pretty much unusable for any professional use case and I wonder how other AR devs are tackling that problem.
@marble junco Many complains about this issue for quite some time, also in forums. But Epic does not react and bug reports by different users for this issue strangely do not get tracked at issues.unrealengine.com for unknown reasons. They do not care. Custom licensee with access to UDN needs to speak up, so it seams.

covert ferry Jun 20, 2020, 1:22 PM

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I need to make an area the player cant leave until they have finished the tutorial..
the tutorial is just a series of slides (widgets).
Ideally they would only be able to move around within a box directly in front of the widgets
until they have either closed the last widget slide or clicked on the 'skip' button on any of the widgets up to that point..

any ideas where I should start with this ?

marble junco Jun 20, 2020, 1:28 PM

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@woeful sundial

Great :S

It looks like the actual raw texture is fine, so I‘ll test whether we can actually use it by disabling the default rendering of the camera and place it as textured plane or widget in 3D space. Sounds like a terrible solution performance wise, but at least worth a test. Still better than not being able to ship Android AR Apps altogether.

covert ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:20 PM

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I have placed my VR pawn to face towards my in-game menu but for some reason the players orientation
is take into account, so if they are not looking a very certain way in real life when they put on the headset,
they end up with the menu behind them....

is there a way to make them always face the menu on startup ?

sonic lake Jun 20, 2020, 5:04 PM

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@covert ferry you can use Reset Orientation and Position. Pass a rotation angle to it if needed.

covert ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:05 PM

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@sonic lake thank you for the pointer, are they just nodes I can google then use ?

sonic lake Jun 20, 2020, 5:05 PM

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It's one Blueprint function "Reset Orientation and Position"

covert ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:07 PM

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will that force the player to be looking in the direction of the pawn they occupy when the game starts then ?
if so then that is fantastic!

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would I set that in the level BP of each level then @sonic lake ?

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and run it from a 'Begin play'

sonic lake Jun 20, 2020, 5:19 PM

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@covert ferry you set it where it is necessary yes

covert ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:19 PM

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thank you, and sorry to pester.

sonic lake Jun 20, 2020, 5:20 PM

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No worries. Helping others is what this community is for.

covert ferry Jun 20, 2020, 7:15 PM

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I have been told a few times that Navemesh bounds is only used for AI.
But the whole time I have been working on my project I have only been able to move (teleport) where there is a navmeshbounds path...

I want to make an area the player cant leave until they have read the tutorial widget fully, or skipped it.
Is it possible to change from one Navboundsmesh to another through BP to achieve this ?

surreal bramble Jun 20, 2020, 9:02 PM

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@covert ferry you could probably achieve that without involving messing with the navmeshes at all e.g. add a new custom check in your "can teleport" function that disallows teleport if the potential location is outside your "tutorial volume" (not necessarily a navmesh volume, any volume will do), and player hasn't completed tutorial. You could also do it based on distance from some point.

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if you're using the vr template, IIRC what it's currently doing is something like: casting a ray down at the ground, then only allowing teleport if that ray intersects with a "navigable" point on a navmesh

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navmesh isn't necessarily "only used for AI"

covert ferry Jun 20, 2020, 9:07 PM

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Thank you for the information @surreal bramble !
I was going to try a blocking volume tomorrow when I attack it again to see if that is enough to block the teleporting.

surreal bramble Jun 20, 2020, 9:08 PM

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unlikely

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maybe

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yeah actually I guess that could work too

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you'll need to block the whole area they could potentially teleport to though, not just a wall. I have a feeling it doesn't check to see whether the spot is navigable from the current position i.e. isn't blocked by some obstacle, rather it just checks whether the spot is valid at all, even if there's no way in or out

covert ferry Jun 20, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Sounds like it is worth a try!
Thank you for your time.
It's only minor but very annoying when the player begins teleporting everywhere, then doesn't finish the tutorial and wonders why they don't know what to do 🤣

mellow edge Jun 21, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Do we need need to enroll for apple developer program of 99 dollars to test the faceARSample in my ios device??

blissful bear Jun 21, 2020, 6:27 PM

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I'm pretty sure you do.

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Before you shell out the dollars be aware that AR in Unreal is a mess. Imho of course.

sage gulch Jun 21, 2020, 8:20 PM

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so I'm trying to get my 5th Oculus warranty call handled.. since I had multiple CV1 cables die and now my S has been dead for months..
Is anyone doing DESKTOP PC ue4 dev via Quest on USB Link?

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like.. does it really, really work? or are there problems? this might be the last time I'm able to make a warranty call and my budget is still in the red on dev work from last year(s)

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I'm all about being able to do Quest builds and play with hand tracking.. but my main project is DESKTOP pc, so I thiiiiiink it's supposed to work...

mighty carbon Jun 21, 2020, 9:23 PM

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If you plan on getting official Link cable, should be almost identical to Rift S

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It's not the same when using standard USB3 cable

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(But still good for development)

quiet swan Jun 21, 2020, 9:26 PM

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does render custom depth pass not work on vr because of forward shading?

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its suppose to look like this

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bright drift Jun 22, 2020, 4:42 AM

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@mighty carbon @sage gulch oculus link works with the cable that ships with the quest and USB2 cables in general if you switch the PC Oculus app to the test version

idle osprey Jun 22, 2020, 4:46 AM

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I don't think you need test anymore.

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I was using the original cable with Link, tho I was plugged in to a thunderbolt3 port (MacBook running Windows)

covert ferry Jun 22, 2020, 8:22 AM

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couple of questions for you Superior developers out there!

I use the generic teleport which comes with the VR project.
But most of the time, If I turn the thumbstick while teleporting I do not end up facing the way the arrow was,
instead, I keep my original orientation.
I have to conciously, slowly lift my thumb from the clicked position pretty slowly, making sure the stick is still in that direction
in order to achieve the proper functionality...

I know the people I get to test out my project are going to have trouble with this...

covert ferry Jun 22, 2020, 10:05 AM

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Does anyone have any experience adding hand animations ?
I could do with being pointed in the right direction.

gaunt pumice Jun 22, 2020, 10:05 AM

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does anybody know if there is a function to check if the oculus quest is being put on/off the users head?

sage gulch Jun 22, 2020, 1:28 PM

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thanks, guess I will try it

daring mural Jun 22, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Is it possible to have collisions during game pause? Players are able to walk through walls (in playspace) while the game is paused

tired tree Jun 22, 2020, 4:06 PM

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@daring mural enable ticking while paused

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its nothing to do with paused

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its the CMC not running

brisk spade Jun 22, 2020, 5:14 PM

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i finally have a wheel that i can rotate 😄 like a valve 😄

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finally after 2 months or so

sand wraith Jun 22, 2020, 5:21 PM

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@brisk spade how did that?! I want that! 😫

sand wraith Jun 22, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Not it...
Anyone do have link to how-to or tutorial website for two hands interaction?

sonic lake Jun 22, 2020, 8:45 PM

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@sand wraith you can have a look at my tutorial here: https://youtu.be/wxKYgJmc5a8

YouTube

Marco Ghislanzoni

Two hands weapon handling in VR tutorial - Unreal Engine 4

Learn how to grab and handle a weapon with two hands in VR!

Includes an MK16 and a Katana example. The weapon can be held with one hand or with two hands. Plus it can be switched from one hand to the other on the fly. You can even teleport while holding your weapon.

This has...

▶ Play video

sand wraith Jun 22, 2020, 8:53 PM

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@sonic lake thank you! This exactly what I was looking for

surreal bramble Jun 23, 2020, 12:31 AM

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@sonic lake great tutorial.

smoky valve Jun 23, 2020, 12:37 AM

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Hey all! I was wondering if you could help me resolve this error. Not entirely sure how to go about this.

LogPlayLevel: Error: 06-22 17:30:02.888 4271 4300 D UE4 : [2020.06.23-00.30.02:888][ 0]LogNavigation: Error: Attempt to build nav collision data for /Engine/EditorMeshes/MatineeCam_SM.MatineeCam_SM:NavCollision_2147482599 when we are unable to. This platform requires cooked packages.

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I'm building a project via the Oculus Quest.

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I wasn't getting this before, and I don't have any sequences or cameras in the scene.

smoky valve Jun 23, 2020, 12:57 AM

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I made some optimization fixes to a master material and rebuilt lighting...now the first error I posted about has mysteriously vanished. not sure how that's related to MatineeCam... 0_o?

smoky valve Jun 23, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Found some more warnings.

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Sorry, I'll stop spamming now. Just wanted to give as much info as I can. Still trying to figure it out myself as well.

bright drift Jun 23, 2020, 2:07 AM

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@sand wraith if you aren't already, you should check out the VR Expansion plugin. It already has 2-handed grabbing and weapon handling

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And it's open-source

hard relic Jun 23, 2020, 3:34 AM

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Hi there, is Cubemap accessible for Quest user inside a ExponentialHeightFog? It seems that the white tint is all over...

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sand wraith Jun 23, 2020, 9:19 AM

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@sand wraith if you aren't already, you should check out the VR Expansion plugin. It already has 2-handed grabbing and weapon handling
@bright drift Where is that? Mr Google wasn't very helpful.

bright drift Jun 23, 2020, 9:20 AM

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@sand wraith https://forums.unrealengine.com/development-discussion/vr-ar-development/89050-vr-expansion-plugin

Unreal Engine Forums

VR Expansion Plugin

Updated: Constantly

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Playable Template Demo
Template Packaged Download (filedata/fetch?id=1697558&d=1576159007)

Plugin Website:
[URL]https://vreue4.com/

Plugin Partial Features List:
https://vreue4.com/features

Documentation
https://vreue4.com...

sand wraith Jun 23, 2020, 9:22 AM

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I should have go on forum a bit more! Thank you Roderick!

bright drift Jun 23, 2020, 9:23 AM

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np

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That plugin is amazing, and it's not your fault you missed it. It should be stickied

sand wraith Jun 23, 2020, 9:24 AM

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Indeed. Too many misdirection in that forum, cant find what I am look for.

brisk spade Jun 23, 2020, 1:38 PM

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is there any tip how i can test in VR without having the actual PC?

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my room has such astrange ratio

mighty carbon Jun 23, 2020, 1:49 PM

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lol, this is a new one.. Usually people ask how to test VR without HMD..

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if you have Quest, you can take it anywhere and test your VR app without PC

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but you need PC to build it first 😉

hard relic Jun 23, 2020, 2:18 PM

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Hi all, Are you using Vulkan or Es3.1?

mighty carbon Jun 23, 2020, 2:22 PM

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depends

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es3.1 is the safe bet right now

hard relic Jun 23, 2020, 2:30 PM

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ok thank you

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i suppose it depend if the effect you need is supported or not... or maybe about complexity of the shader?

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i'm trying to understand where vulkan is better than ES3.1..?

mighty carbon Jun 23, 2020, 2:46 PM

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do A/B test

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it's the only way to find out for sure 🙂

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if you are using stock UE4, stick with es3.1.. If you are using OC fork, then it depends on your project

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one thing is that currently VK is slower than es3.1 and "eats" a lot more RAM

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but that's mostly due to Qcomm drivers .. being sh!t

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plus it has some rendering artifacts

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however, Oculus is not going to support es3.1 in UE4 with new features - all effort goes into VK

hard relic Jun 23, 2020, 2:55 PM

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sorry, stock UE4? OC fork?

mighty carbon Jun 23, 2020, 3:03 PM

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stock UE4 - launcher. OC fork - engine's fork from Oculus.

hard relic Jun 23, 2020, 3:18 PM

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I'm not sure to understand. i'm using Unreal to make a game for my Quest. I do not find a choice about what engine to use. So i think i'm by default.

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But i will stick with ES3.1 for the moment. We will see when Vulkan add necessary improvement... it seems that it is not the case now.

covert ferry Jun 23, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Does anyone know how I can actually get my project onto my oculus quest to test it our wirelessly ?

Or at least know where I can look to learn the process ?

mighty carbon Jun 23, 2020, 5:25 PM

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do you folks ever read official docs?!

sand wraith Jun 23, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Use Sidequest I think? @covert ferry

mint knot Jun 23, 2020, 7:09 PM

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guys anayopne has a clue why my iphone isnt showing in the blueprints in live link as a subject?

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i dont get it

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i have checked my firewall settings as well

obtuse spruce Jun 23, 2020, 7:17 PM

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@covert ferry You can Launch your project on your quest, or you can package it, install the apk on your quest, and then run it from the quest. Poke through here: https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/unreal/unreal-ide-guide-android/

Oculus Go and Quest: Compile and Package Apps

Describes how to debug or test your Oculus Go or quest app.

mint knot Jun 23, 2020, 7:17 PM

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the app is running

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it used to work before i moved

obtuse spruce Jun 23, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Is there a BP solution for figuring out what HMD a certain Key is for? I'd like to build a function that takes in a key and outputs Mouse+Key, Gamepad, Vive, Rift, etc. based on what input device that key is for.
edit: Made one myself by checking what substring the key starts with

obtuse spruce Jun 23, 2020, 7:50 PM

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BPs are missing VR keys! None in this drop-down list...

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covert ferry Jun 23, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Thank you @obtuse spruce !

sturdy coral Jun 23, 2020, 10:17 PM

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@obtuse spruce not built in; you could iterate all keys, put them in a map of key_name->type by looking at their string prefix

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my pull request here will let you quickly check if it is a motion controller key without string compares or map lookups: https://github.com/EpicGames/UnrealEngine/pull/6987

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(by default you can only tell it is a gamepad key and can't tell gamepad keys apart from motion controller)

obtuse spruce Jun 23, 2020, 10:19 PM

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@sturdy coral That's exactly what I did!
I'll take a look at that pull request

sturdy coral Jun 23, 2020, 10:19 PM

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@obtuse spruce you want to be careful though, the steamvr plugin doesn't even send the key that uses for the action necessarily

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it may send one for a totally different controller

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they lookup the action, then send any motion controller key bound to that action kind of randomly into the input system

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@obtuse spruce what I do is manually check which devices are hooked up through checking model name string

obtuse spruce Jun 23, 2020, 10:28 PM

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@sturdy coral Thanks for the heads-up! I'm future-proofing for VR now, so I'll make a big note of that to resolve later

bright drift Jun 24, 2020, 12:48 AM

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@obtuse spruce FYI on steam you're strongly encouraged to use the steam configurator

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even Boneworks directs people to use that for changing bindings

smoky valve Jun 24, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Hey all! I was wondering if you could help me with this error.

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The project fails to launch. The words in whiteout is the name of the project.

sand wraith Jun 24, 2020, 8:19 AM

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I wish I can help but I am more artist myself 🙈
Look like Targets was the errors. Try narrowing it down?

sturdy timber Jun 24, 2020, 10:15 AM

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@smoky valve it is strange, what launching configuration do you use? It seems like it's skipping the build step (compiling the C++ part of the project), but more details would help

little scaffold Jun 24, 2020, 11:34 AM

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@smoky valve try to compile manually first to see if it really is the problem

daring mural Jun 24, 2020, 1:32 PM

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any idea why 'start camera fade' only seems to affect my left eye?

frigid kite Jun 24, 2020, 1:43 PM

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Are you using instanced stereo by any chance @daring mural ?

daring mural Jun 24, 2020, 1:43 PM

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@frigid kite Yes

frigid kite Jun 24, 2020, 1:46 PM

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That might be the culprit, but someone with more recent UE VR experience would have to confirm

south trench Jun 24, 2020, 2:15 PM

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has anyone successfully gotten all the HMD inputs to fire in 4.23 using steamVR Input? Is it true Index requires axis to have _X or _Y but Vive ( Cosmos also? ) requires double axis entry (X and Y)?

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WMR sticks fire nothing unless WMR plugin enabled which breaks all other HMDs, new standard has Steam VR Windwos MR Controller Joystick X and Y axis but nothing fires

chilly pasture Jun 24, 2020, 7:06 PM

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hey guys, i need some ideas of integrating login system for oculus, what would be the easiest ?

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facebook ?

mighty carbon Jun 24, 2020, 7:49 PM

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oculus?

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they have entire Platform SDK

chilly pasture Jun 24, 2020, 8:05 PM

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okay thanks

hard relic Jun 25, 2020, 12:26 AM

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hi, on a Quest VR, i'm trying to get the camera Height location at event BeginPlay. I'm surprise it's 0.0.

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The only way i can get the correct height location is after a Event Tick...

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doh... it's okay with a delay

true magnet Jun 25, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Hey, anybody know how to make a rope swinging / web slinging system?

smoky valve Jun 25, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Can anyone tell me how to resolve this?

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I'm using ES3_1 for Oculus Quest.

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I optimized some things, but not sure how to handle these.

smoky valve Jun 25, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Can someone help me share a build of a vr game to another team mate?
We're developing on Oculus Quest, and a team member needs to play around with the project on their quest.
We're not in the same location or else we would use the same HMD.

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Really appreciate the help! 🙂

maiden willow Jun 25, 2020, 4:43 AM

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@smoky valve You could get them the apk and they could use SideQuest to install it.

thin solstice Jun 25, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Has anyone implemented a curved UI in VR with user interaction? If so, could you point me in the direction to see how you did it?

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I'm looking for something like the Oculus Home menus, where I can play videos, etc., from there

marble junco Jun 25, 2020, 9:34 PM

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@thin solstice
widget component (can be curved in the settings) on an actor, widget interaction component on the player (one per hand if two needed).

thin solstice Jun 25, 2020, 9:37 PM

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@marble junco wow, it's that simple? Thanks!

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I mean to say, "simple"... There's always a gotcha or two in there

marble junco Jun 25, 2020, 9:38 PM

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@thin solstice I last tested it in 4.17 or something... So not sure it still works that way 🙂

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@thin solstice we even created a smartphone with usable touchscreen this way (htc vive touch pad mapped to phone screen) 😆

thin solstice Jun 25, 2020, 9:46 PM

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That's pretty cool. I think I've been implementing UIs the hard way - defining a UMG, then defining a blueprint "controller" that contains the UMG widget which also contains colliders for the pointer finger to press buttons. It works but is tedious and limited on the animations in the UMG

marble junco Jun 25, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Yah.. We started this way too, but it’s just too much work. Widget interaction component works great.
In the end we used overlaps to trigger a pointing animation to let the user know it’s interactable and to let him know where he points at.

thin solstice Jun 25, 2020, 9:52 PM

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That's what I'm doing with the hand, to animate it into a pointer as it comes near the UI (like in Vader Immortal). But the pressing was DEpressing when it came to setting up the interactions. 😉

tardy sparrow Jun 26, 2020, 1:53 AM

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currently trying to use a stream media source in order to display a udp video stream onto a wall which works perfectly when Im in the editor and use VR Preview. But as soon as I launch to my oculus quest and have it running directly on there, it doesnt seem to work. Would anyone have any kind of ideas why this might be?

serene sluice Jun 26, 2020, 2:38 AM

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hey just got back to Unreal after a long time. How it's going with AA in VR for Unreal?

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anti aliasing*

neon oyster Jun 26, 2020, 3:50 AM

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got temporal AA and then old school FXAA and MSAA if you use the forward renderer

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that's the big question I think with VR right now.... if you are doing VR for PC or maybe PS5.... do you use the forward renderer or the deferred?

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A couple years ago I think forward was always the way to go.

languid night Jun 26, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Anyone have experience with Foveated Rendering for use in Eye Tracking headsets?

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I just want to know if it's possible, if so how much of a pain in the ass it is to implement it

hybrid plume Jun 26, 2020, 5:00 AM

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A couple years ago I think forward was always the way to go.
@neon oyster now you're leaning towards deferred?

neon oyster Jun 26, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Now I'm working on a game that is still a few years out and isn't solely VR so I'm using deferred. If I was doing a pure VR game that was coming out in a year I'd be doing some performance testing to figure it out though.

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Two years ago though it was very clear that forward was the way to go imho.

hybrid plume Jun 26, 2020, 5:03 AM

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I just wanna be able to manage threads

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some work does better on deferred for me tbh

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what kinda game?

neon oyster Jun 26, 2020, 5:05 AM

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FP puzzle game. U?

hybrid plume Jun 26, 2020, 5:05 AM

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all over the place, bunch of enterprise corporate stuff

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my own stuff is wilder

neon oyster Jun 26, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Ahh just make them buy 2080's and you'll be fine 😉

hybrid plume Jun 26, 2020, 5:06 AM

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and I'm really into the VR art space

neon oyster Jun 26, 2020, 5:06 AM

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nice

hybrid plume Jun 26, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Cannes XR happening now

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in MOR, you can walk the red carpet lol

neon oyster Jun 26, 2020, 5:07 AM

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haha

hybrid plume Jun 26, 2020, 5:07 AM

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the joy of dev

neon oyster Jun 26, 2020, 5:08 AM

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You showing something there?

sturdy timber Jun 26, 2020, 7:08 AM

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Hello everyone! I've got a particle system showing perfectly in the Quest with the Link, but once packaged in standalone mod (as an Android app), the Particle System is nearly invisible, I just can see glimpses of it, just a bit of a texture. It's a fireball (from InfinityBlade FXs). Any idea? I forced the directory containing the assets to be packaged to be sure, I tried to preview in Android ES3.1 in the editor and it's working, so I really don't understand why on the Quest it does not work... Thanks 😄

velvet pasture Jun 26, 2020, 9:11 AM

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Hello, I would like to add VR on my project. I start with https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Platforms/VR/SteamVR/HowTo/ChaperoneInteraction/index.html But SteamVR Chaperone does not exist. How can I add it ?

Interact with the SteamVR Chaperone System

Interact with the various components of the SteamVR Chaperone system.

desert saddle Jun 26, 2020, 11:06 AM

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ello,soooo i'm kinda stuck in a small conundrum,i am trying to setup a wrist interface and it's supposed to be curved

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i made a curved one

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but the widget interaction was supposed to work on two sided i belived but didn't

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i did a hack fix before trying vr to put the widget interaction facing the finger on a offset

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but it doesn't seem to budge,it doesn't seem to interact with the widget,but it seems like it does a 2d hit trace on the widget

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for reference

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https://i.imgur.com/qki33Ad.png

Imgur

full frost Jun 26, 2020, 11:50 AM

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any gpu profile gurus up in here? Anyone know why Tonemap 2468x2740 (PS GammaOnly=0) sometimes starts taking over 3 seconds? Its a vr project and only happens in View1 which I think means only in one eye

sturdy timber Jun 26, 2020, 12:26 PM

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PostProcessing is not recommanded in VR projects, it's very heavy. 3 seconds seems to be a lot though

daring mural Jun 26, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Still struggling with fading only affecting one eye, someone here suggested it may be due to instanced stereo being enabled -- can anyone confirm and/or what I can do about this?

full frost Jun 26, 2020, 1:10 PM

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PostProcessing is not recommanded in VR projects, it's very heavy. 3 seconds seems to be a lot though
@sturdy timber im not doing any post processing. in fact i have all the usual suspects disabled for pp

sturdy timber Jun 26, 2020, 1:11 PM

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@daring mural I do not remember exactly but classic camera fade cannot work (on Oculus at least) because of the way it's done. There is another way to do it, I would need to find again the link x)

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it was on the Oculus doc I think, something like this page: https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/unreal/unreal-color-functions/

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@full frost strange, isn't Tonemapping a post process? I do not work a lot on this stuff so I may be wrong

full frost Jun 26, 2020, 1:17 PM

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tone mapping is a pp yes. i meant that im not doing anything specific. i dont fully understand what tone mapping is but from what i can find its not something that makes sense to just disable like you can with bloom, lens flare etc. @sturdy timber

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and its weird because it doesnt happen all the time. just every so often i can see frame timings go up and in profile can see that tone mapping thing. but, like i said, only in one of the views

sturdy timber Jun 26, 2020, 1:22 PM

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ok, I thought ToneMapping needed to be explicitly declared in a Post Process volume or in the post process settings of the projects

eternal inlet Jun 26, 2020, 5:51 PM

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im currently building light and noticed that with some meshes, it seems that the volumetric light makes my skeletal mesh "flicker" from shadowed and non-shadowed... anyone seen this issue before and happen to know how to work around it? 4.25.1

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actually in some fully shadowed areas, my skeletal mesh doesn't even get "darkned" from the volumetric light build... i can post a short video showing the issue in a bit

eternal inlet Jun 26, 2020, 6:15 PM

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https://youtu.be/xE7aIXGsA9Q

YouTube

Jonas Mølgaard

Volumetric light issue 2020 06 26 20 05 59

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sturdy coral Jun 26, 2020, 7:54 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/games/250820/announcements/detail/2522527900755718764

Steam :: SteamVR :: Transitioning To OpenXR

We are thrilled that over the past four years developers have released more than 4000 OpenVR titles on Steam, supporting all major PC VR headsets. The challenge we as an industry have faced with many of these titles is that for developers targeting multiple VR platforms, it re...

eternal inlet Jun 26, 2020, 8:13 PM

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did some more testing... notice how the Moveable cube is shadowed correctly underneath the static cube

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vs. how it's shadowed inside the building (wrong)

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aha... it would appear that the mesh that is casting shadow should have "Dynamic Shadow" flag set for it to work 😦

tardy sparrow Jun 26, 2020, 8:24 PM

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hey there, new to VR stuff. I need some screen shots of a project im working on that is rendered in this type of way, is this easy to do?

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nimble edge Jun 26, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Anyone ever built a "poseable mannequin" like the one in Gravity Sketch? Or something like it? I have a rigged skeletal mesh, and I want to be able to pose it in VR. I don't need to save the pose or animate it or anything.

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I feel like I'm hitting my head against a brick wall and there's an obvious door right next to me I'm too dumb to see right now

tardy sparrow Jun 26, 2020, 8:49 PM

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^^ Sorry, I'd help if I could

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If anyone knows how to to set the editor to have the screen show this type of view on monitor while playing that would be amazing

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=cZJmh881FCo&feature=emb_title

YouTube

Epic Games Docs

VR Editing Mode Auto Entry

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got it 😁

keen prawn Jun 26, 2020, 10:17 PM

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any1 tried blender VR allready?

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just seen the 2.83 vid or something and about to download it 🙂

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ow , no motion controlls or sculp yet i think

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mayB next version 😛

hallow knoll Jun 27, 2020, 4:38 AM

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@nimble edge Use the Poseable Skeletal Mesh component and you can set the location of the bones without having to set it up in the animation BP - I've also seen it done with the skeletal mesh simulating physics and time dilation set to 0, but that's not as easy to work with and limiting

nimble edge Jun 27, 2020, 4:40 AM

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I was going the simulate physics route, I'll try the poseable mesh tomorrow. Thanks @hallow knoll

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I had to "push" it around, I couldn't wrap my head around grabbable anchors that the mesh was connected to.

hallow knoll Jun 27, 2020, 5:18 AM

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I'd spawn grabbable actors from an array of bones you'd like to pose, and assign a relationship to the bone

dusky moon Jun 27, 2020, 10:45 AM

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@hallow knoll Oh amazing how this tip is exactly what I'm looking for too. Poseable Skeletal Mesh seems super underrated haha I'm gonna dig it too. thanks

dusky moon Jun 27, 2020, 11:40 AM

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BTW, I'm stuck with this hope someone knows a solution. So I made this simple rigged alien hand. want to posses this in VR. I used FABRIK with AnimBP to attach the Index bone to Motion controller (world position) and it works perfectly. but I want solve rotation of the root of this Arm too and this is what I'm struggling at. I want to attach the root to VR Camera.

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chilly pasture Jun 27, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Hey, Guys anyone has experience with Oculus account linking or face book account linking, basically i want to make a multiplayer version of the app.

timber bobcat Jun 28, 2020, 1:39 AM

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What's a good first step for making a ping pong type game? I've found an example project from a few years ago but not much else.

thin solstice Jun 28, 2020, 12:06 PM

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I would say the first step would be to identify the platform you want to put it on, and see if the platform will really support a ping pong style game. As much as I love the Quest and the Rift, I'm not sure the inside out tracking would be good enough for a game where your hand is outside your field of view as you keep your eye on the ball AND you are moving your hand at high speed.

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An application like that definitely would benefit from basestation tracking

timber bobcat Jun 28, 2020, 4:30 PM

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I have a quest and the game racketnx works well

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I think they do some tricks to simplify the physics, I think the ball only moves at a few discrete speeds

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and the angle the ball moves off the racket I think is adjusted to make it more predictable

sturdy coral Jun 28, 2020, 5:26 PM

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one of their first demos for quest was tennis which probably has your hands even farther back out of view: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70_4zvkZ3fo

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Oculus Quest VR headset tennis

Demo of Santa Cruz, now called Oculus Quest, with tennis game at OC5

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sweet oracle Jun 28, 2020, 8:35 PM

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is this expected behavior?

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/609876675005775882/726898010344259596/unknown.png

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if i have two widgets

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and i move my slider all the way to the left
and then go past from the first widget into the next widget
the slider still moves

sturdy coral Jun 28, 2020, 8:46 PM

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@sweet oracle yeah it won't get the mouse up event once off and I think something else with hover stuck in the virtual window

sweet oracle Jun 28, 2020, 8:50 PM

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@sturdy coral so its not a bug? If i go to the left widget holding the controller button

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My slider jumps from 0 to like 20 percent depending on the width of the widget beside it

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Which cant be right

sturdy coral Jun 28, 2020, 8:51 PM

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That must be a tick order thing or something sending one last mouse event to the prev virtual window based on the new one

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Does sound like a bug

sweet oracle Jun 28, 2020, 8:52 PM

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its not just one time... when i m on the widget right beside it

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i can fully control the slider as long as i have the controller button holding

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when i release it... it all resets

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i guess i just need to detect if i my mouse is still hovered over the main parent widget or not

sturdy coral Jun 28, 2020, 8:55 PM

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That's strange, I guess the slider widget keeps querying mouse cursor pos, I just thought that pos would get stuck in place not get calced from the other window

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I'm pretty sure hover gets stuck in place by default when the interactor traces start missing or go to another window

sweet oracle Jun 28, 2020, 8:57 PM

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it gets stuck when you the interactor traces start missing or leave the widget

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but not when they go to another widget 😛

chilly pasture Jun 28, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Hey, Guys anyone has done a account system for any oculus app, needs some information.

Best way to do this for Unreal.
What are the process involved ?

spare yew Jun 28, 2020, 9:23 PM

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If you need to ask that question then you probably shouldn't be doing it. Look for a third party service that has security

chilly pasture Jun 28, 2020, 9:39 PM

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I am just trying to get an idea, what people has used ?

rich canopy Jun 29, 2020, 6:28 AM

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Epic online services?

real eagle Jun 29, 2020, 7:58 AM

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App with google vr plugin crashes on launch on mobile. Any help?

pastel fern Jun 29, 2020, 10:13 AM

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Anyone ever used the SetSplashScreen node in Unreal? Only got trouble with it. We need to do lots of work AFTER the level is loaded. For that we Fade the screen to black and then display a SplashScreen texture that is changed depending on the progress (0%, 20%, 40%, ...). It got this working after some trial and error (as SetWorldToMeterScale also affects the SplashScreen). Though now its broken again. When standing in the center of the play area, the splash screen widget is rotated to the left around the Z axis. How do you do loading screens in VR?

gaunt pumice Jun 29, 2020, 10:19 AM

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question for users of hand tracking and the openVR expansion plugin: which UE version/branch and SDK/NDK/JDK are you guys using?

dont no why but with unreal 4.25 (official release as well as the oculus branch) i am getting crashes or just black screens during launch on the quest

mighty carbon Jun 29, 2020, 8:40 PM

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I am guessing Rift S will be retired next - v18.0 update from Oculus has a ton of new features and fixes for Quest and only 3 items for Rift S, which are Oculus Link related.

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In other words v18.0 update is 100% Quest focused

rich canopy Jun 30, 2020, 2:42 AM

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Maybe for pcvr side, they just feel that it is stable since its been around since 2016 and no need for any new changes. I don't think it will go away as long as graphics on pc is way superior.

misty halo Jun 30, 2020, 3:47 AM

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So, I am working on multiplayer VR, any thing I should be aware of? It is basically a VR racing game

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I already have a project with multiplayer. Just anything for VR I should consider before implementing it?

wintry jewel Jun 30, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Quest is getting the love because it's the future. Although there will be a place for PCVR, Facebook wants to push for the masses and so the Quest is the lowest-cost, easiest option

misty halo Jun 30, 2020, 6:26 AM

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Already developing with it in mind :3 I am getting one for testing/so my employee can test stuff using link

tame stream Jun 30, 2020, 11:20 AM

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using Oculus Rift S i need to redefine the floor level and play area each time i put the HMD down on my desk during development. this really slows me down. i'm thinking about going back to using the Rift again for development purposes. do you guys have similar issues?

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or is there any development mode i can activate or anything...?

tribal coral Jun 30, 2020, 12:34 PM

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It shouldn’t happen, only if you move location physically where it can’t detect the play area and needs to be recalibrated

flat shoal Jun 30, 2020, 12:45 PM

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Has anything been said about Unreal Engine 5 and VR?

tame stream Jun 30, 2020, 1:20 PM

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@tribal coral but it does happen each single time... after testing my application i place the hmd on my desk. five minutes later i might have moved objects on my desk (pens, paper stuff, my mouse, keyboard, etc...) and the play area cannot be detected anymore. i'm just wondering how developers are dealing with that.

tribal coral Jun 30, 2020, 1:37 PM

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i never had that issue

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and by play area it checks for the surroundings, like walls a furniture

thin solstice Jun 30, 2020, 2:15 PM

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@tame stream I've never had that issue, either. I DID have an issue where it kept making me taller than I should be. When I reached down, I could not touch the virtual floor. Every time I got into it, I would be raised higher where in the "home" area, I could reach up and touch the virtual ceiling. I ended up updating my graphics driver which solved the issue. Maybe try that?

carmine yoke Jun 30, 2020, 2:27 PM

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I'm trying to mess around with the level streaming for oculus quest. I still get frozen frames between the levels deloading/loading. Is there anything I can do to make it more seamless? I know there's the option of splash screens but I'm using an elevator style level transition. t'would be nice if it was seamless

tame stream Jun 30, 2020, 2:30 PM

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@thin solstice I'll try that, thanks

mighty carbon Jun 30, 2020, 3:12 PM

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@carmine yoke no sir 😦

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You might want to turn on async streaming and play with the values there, but no matter how much I experimented, there hiccups were always there.

misty halo Jun 30, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Reset oriantation and position and use only the yaw value set to 0.0

carmine yoke Jun 30, 2020, 3:19 PM

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@mighty carbon yeah I saw your post on the forums. I've done all that already 😦

misty halo Jun 30, 2020, 3:20 PM

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using Oculus Rift S i need to redefine the floor level and play area each time i put the HMD down on my desk during development. this really slows me down. i'm thinking about going back to using the Rift again for development purposes. do you guys have similar issues?
@tame stream read my comment above forgot to quote ya

eternal inlet Jun 30, 2020, 4:56 PM

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scenecapturecomponent in 4.25.1 is broken?

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it seem to work sort of ok in PIE, but as soon as i package i get insane FPS drop (edit, seems related to this bug UE-86191)

pulsar reef Jun 30, 2020, 5:09 PM

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anyone here used vr trackers for virtual production stuff?

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i've gotten it working, but it seems there's some kind of weird tracking going on

eternal inlet Jun 30, 2020, 7:04 PM

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What is "some kind of weird tracking going on"?

pulsar reef Jun 30, 2020, 7:41 PM

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when i pan left and right it acts like it's a head on a body, hold up, let me post a video

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📎 4ddc7255ed094dd17e6bc9247f5fa74e.mp4

sturdy coral Jul 1, 2020, 2:38 AM

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@eternal inlet didn't you see the same thing with spectator screen scene capture a while back?

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though you said it didn't work in editor either then I think

eternal inlet Jul 1, 2020, 5:03 AM

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It was bad earlier, in 4.25.0 yes but now in 4.25.1 its terrible. I can see memoryusage starts to build up too, so maybe a memoryleak of a kind. Will do a blank test project when im back from work

sturdy coral Jul 1, 2020, 6:00 AM

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@eternal inlet one thing to watch out for is if your scene capture size is larger than eye viewrect resolution, I've seen several comments in the code mention bugs related to that

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Try those resizemethod commands mentioned before too though (they must go in ini and won't work right from the console)

eternal inlet Jul 1, 2020, 6:17 AM

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i will look into that for sure

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in the meantime, i've managed to smack together a dummy project

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JhKgm44oaDlDbGqMYzTnsJ8teJkLxiEz/view?usp=sharing

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@sturdy coral remind me which resize commands that was...

candid viper Jul 1, 2020, 6:54 AM

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@eternal inlet you're probably looking for "r.SceneRenderTargetResizeMethod=2" and "r.SceneRenderTargetResizeMethodForceOverride=True"

verbal kiln Jul 1, 2020, 11:08 AM

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Is there a good "cheat scene" for UE VR stuff. For instance a scene with examples for picking up an object with 1 hand, picking up with 2 hands, navigation, etc etc

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I would class this as the basics but maybe I'm being naive

wheat holly Jul 1, 2020, 11:24 AM

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Unreal has a default project with teleportation and picking up objects, it's a bit limited. But at least shows something, if you want more advanced things you probably will have to look at YouTube or Google. https://gyazo.com/f719f4b1910ddbeb3f923291cd36bdf1

Gyazo

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There are some tutorials on this channel if you use Blueprints. https://www.youtube.com/c/marcoghislanzoni/videos

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Marco Ghislanzoni

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And otherwise you could probably translate it into C++ based on the concept / blueprints :D

verbal kiln Jul 1, 2020, 11:35 AM

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Thanks @wheat holly - I've just gone through the tutorial from @sonic lake but its not working as expected. Its hard to really understand whats happening with such a complex setup and diagnose the issue. In this example its built upon the example scene, switching out the geometry with a gun but I need to do this from scratch in my own scene, I'm wondering if the example scene has some settings that I'm missing which is causing the issue. Not familiar with UE makes it even trickier 🤦‍♂️

wheat holly Jul 1, 2020, 11:38 AM

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Then it might be a good idea to spend some more time to get familiar with the engine it self, some time ago I also really wanted to start with VR. But as someone pointed out to me it's really difficult to do if you don't know your way around. Which I think was a good point.

verbal kiln Jul 1, 2020, 11:39 AM

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Yea, I think I was expecting to have a lot more "presets" to work off and figure out. Seeing as a lot of these things are standard in most games. For instance navigation and picking up objects. I was guessing there would be a shelf button that you just click for basic setups

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I think you're right, need to go back to basics

wheat holly Jul 1, 2020, 11:40 AM

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Best of luck! Hoping to see some cool things in the future from you 🙂

verbal kiln Jul 1, 2020, 11:43 AM

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I hope so too haha thanks mate

thin solstice Jul 1, 2020, 12:24 PM

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@verbal kiln I totally agree with you, you would think things like movement, custom hand poses as you pick up objects, hand animations and snapping, gravity, changing out hand mesh skins, etc. would be kind of standard but they are not. I honestly don't understand why as it seems we have to start VR project with first re-creating basic functionality. So that being said, I also agree with @wheat holly - take a moment to become familiar with the engine and how it does things and then add in VR. It will definitely help you maintain your sanity.

rich canopy Jul 1, 2020, 1:07 PM

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@verbal kiln this is quite old but what i started with many years ago https://github.com/mitchemmc/VRContentExamples

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mitchemmc/VRContentExamples

Unreal Engine 4 community VR content examples. Contribute to mitchemmc/VRContentExamples development by creating an account on GitHub.

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Also something highly recommended and updated frequently is the VR Expansion Plugin that Mordentral made so you can even poke him here if i need help working on it https://vreue4.com/ definitely should check it out.

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If you have some money to spend, this looks good too but i have not test it out myself. https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/advanced-vr-framework

Advanced VR Framework V3 by Human Codeable in Blueprints - UE4 Mark...

A complete VR framework to develop VR applications such as games, VR experiences, Architectural Viz or product presentations. Implementing a huge variety of VR functionalities such as level management, menus, interact objects, panels, maps, catalogs...

verbal kiln Jul 1, 2020, 1:21 PM

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Thanks for the links @rich canopy - I'm gonna take a course for sure!

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Even right now, I've got a camera rig setup in VR where you pickup a camera and that camera has an output feed to a monitor. Its got the valve index gloves in there working and also navigation but as soon as I try to load in some custom geo as an fbx my camera decides to disappear... 🤔 - I'm thinking that I'm working in logical steps but UE keeps throwing me curveballs!

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Ah, seems to be the default collision shapes, as I'm bringing in a room interior I think it was launching my camera outside of it

sonic lake Jul 1, 2020, 1:37 PM

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@verbal kiln like everyone else in this channel, happy to help you on specific VR questions if you have any.

verbal kiln Jul 1, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Thanks @sonic lake - Very kind! I think I'll go away for a bit, do a basics course and then come back. Save asking obvious questions or causing confusion

sonic lake Jul 1, 2020, 1:58 PM

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@verbal kiln good thinking! If you are missing some engine basics you won't definitely find them in a VR tutorial.

verbal kiln Jul 1, 2020, 5:13 PM

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I'm basically aiming to make what you see @1:24 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjb-AqMD-a4

Do we know if this toolset is availible or wil ever be availible? In the description they seem to say it comes with 4.23

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Behind the Scenes with UE4’s Next-Gen Virtual Production Tools | Pr...

Epic Games has partnered with Lux Machina, Magnopus, Profile Studios, Quixel, ARRI, and DP Matt Workman to put the latest virtual production toolset in Unreal Engine 4.23 through its paces. In this video, we take a more in-depth look at how all of the tools come together to pr...

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modest cliff Jul 1, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Hi all. Has anyone of you got the occlusion material (camera overlay) for AR Kit working in 4.25? I've found this: https://forums.unrealengine.com/development-discussion/vr-ar-development/1675228-pink-arkit-passthrough-material and it seems to crash the app on IOS with 4.25.

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Hello,

Using the AR/Handheld device template, assigning the ARKit Camera Material to the geometry in the BP_Placeable BluePrint, renders Pink on the device

tranquil pelican Jul 2, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Honestly anyone have any decent ARCore sources to learn from with ue4?

misty halo Jul 2, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Hmm how well do you know ue4 already?

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Also, I recommend using 4.24 since .25 breaks VR a lil

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Plus read up on theories around vr game dev

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Like sound, lighting, etc.

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Also, blueprints make VR easier I believe.

radiant garden Jul 2, 2020, 12:16 PM

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Has anyone put together a list of things that have been broken by 4.25?

brisk spade Jul 2, 2020, 1:14 PM

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i want to have an object that i can swing around itself like a wheel

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ok im using a physics constraint but when grabing and releasing the object it spins in the wrong direction

worthy vapor Jul 2, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Also, I recommend using 4.24 since .25 breaks VR a lil
@misty halo I'm about to start a VR project and was about to switch to 4.25. Why should I use 4.24 instead?

worthy vapor Jul 2, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Also, has anybody gotten hand tracking to work on Quest? Trying to follow Oculus Documentation, but can't find Oculus VR in Project Settings.

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ok im using a physics constraint but when grabing and releasing the object it spins in the wrong direction
@brisk spade How are you spinning it? Maybe add an + or - impulse rotation?

brisk spade Jul 2, 2020, 6:32 PM

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nice name you have 😄

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when i grab and spine it it spins in the opposite direction :/

final perch Jul 2, 2020, 6:45 PM

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hey everybody. I need immediate help. I can pay whoever helps me get this working $50. Using the Oculus SDK, I need to be able to re-orient the VR headset to a specific rotation (only the up axis rotation needs to change). the user sits in a specific motion chair. We are finding that the guardian determines where the experience is oriented

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I cannot rotate the VR camera, or player pawn. This has no effect (im guessing the SDK locks this off?)

sonic lake Jul 2, 2020, 6:48 PM

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@final perch Reset Orientation and Position should do it

final perch Jul 2, 2020, 6:48 PM

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is that an SDK function?

sonic lake Jul 2, 2020, 6:49 PM

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It‘s part of the standard VR interface in Unreal.

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You can check in the source code what it maps to for Oculus.

final perch Jul 2, 2020, 6:56 PM

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@sonic lake thank you. that did it. I assumed it was something like that but the team was under the impression that a function like that didnt exist, so we were looking for other solutions

sonic lake Jul 2, 2020, 6:59 PM

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You can give the 50 bucks to charity. 😉

worthy vapor Jul 2, 2020, 7:12 PM

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I think you can just hold the Oculus button for a second and it resets headset rotation

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when i grab and spine it it spins in the opposite direction :/
@brisk spade So this is just physics you are working with? If you are using vectors at any point inside a blueprint you can always try to multiply said vectors by -1, so it goes the other way. Not sure if that helps tho. In any case, I prefer to use Rinterp nodes using some information from the physics input, that way you have more control over the object's movement. (If that makes any sense 🤷‍♂️ ) (btw, it's nice to see you like capybaras 😁 )

brisk spade Jul 2, 2020, 7:17 PM

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@worthy vapor best spirit animal 🙂

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yeah physics

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i create a physic constrain between my interactor and a wheel

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tough geode Jul 2, 2020, 7:58 PM

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hey guys how do you set things to where the camera only follows the hmd rotation and not the movement?

errant slate Jul 2, 2020, 8:03 PM

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So I've found how to "shrink" the player by adjusting the World to Meter scale. However now I have what appears to be a scaling issue related to how the HMD is offset from where it thinks my neck is. Any suggestions?

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hallow knoll Jul 2, 2020, 8:19 PM

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@tough geode Why would you want to do that? It's important to have head movement to reduce the possibility of nausea

tough geode Jul 2, 2020, 8:20 PM

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well i guess i dont want that but i would like to make the camera's initial position not be determined by the headset

hallow knoll Jul 2, 2020, 8:21 PM

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You move the pawn then

tough geode Jul 2, 2020, 8:22 PM

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well my problem is im doing a cutscene and while everything looks fine outside of vr mode when i enter vr mode the camera moves up and to the right so the initial angle is off

hallow knoll Jul 2, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Depending on the setup, you can also do "Reset Orientation and Position" function