#virtual-reality | Unreal Source | Page 222

brisk spade Mar 19, 2020, 12:43 PM

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or should i only do this on spawn?

uneven sonnet Mar 19, 2020, 1:41 PM

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Hello, after hitting a breaking point in VR, the inputs does not work anymore. Is it normal ?

mystic idol Mar 19, 2020, 2:19 PM

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Hey everyone, anyone have any experience using volumetric rays/fog in VR?

uneven sonnet Mar 19, 2020, 2:23 PM

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@mystic idol never tried, it should be impressive !

mystic idol Mar 19, 2020, 2:24 PM

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@uneven sonnet yeah me neither just randomly putting in numbers should probably look up a tutorial

ebon idol Mar 19, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Hello all. Can someone tell me if the IsHeadMountedDisplayConnected function is actually working in 4.24? I have a check using that node in a blueprint and it's still flagging true even though I've unplugged the headset.

shadow radish Mar 19, 2020, 4:20 PM

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does anyone have any experience with running a line trace from the player pawn on a loop? I started running a line trace from my vr camera every 0.05 seconds to identify when a player is looking at UI elements

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but I am wondering if that is a stupid idea and how expensive it is performance wise

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the basic use case is--identify a player is looking at a UI panel--then show lasers to interact with the panel if they are

woeful sundial Mar 19, 2020, 4:21 PM

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@brisk spade i recommend reading the Human Interface Guidelines for AR by Apple. (Also for android) It sums up design aspects for developers. https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guidelines/ios/system-capabilities/augmented-reality/ also this talk explains important aspects: https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2018/805/

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Creating Great AR Experiences - WWDC 2018 - Videos - Apple Developer

Engaging AR experiences are easy to start and navigate, persuasively realistic, and highly immersive. Learn best practices for...

brisk spade Mar 19, 2020, 4:25 PM

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thank you 😄

distant spoke Mar 19, 2020, 4:26 PM

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hey guys im trying to dispatch an event from my UI widget into an actor using Bind, i can hover and click on the UI with my motioncontroller but the event does not dispatch ?

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My setup: on the level I have a BP actor with a widget component inside,
Then I have motion controller bp (from the default be template), the motion controller bp is referencing BP motion controller which has the interactive widget functionality.
And THEN I have another bp actor where I want to send the events to

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motion controller bp is the pawn, which references BP_motioncontroller (where i have my widget interaction)

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here's some screenshots

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📎 myactorbp.PNG

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📎 widget_bp.PNG

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📎 widget_in_world_space.PNG

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📎 viewport.PNG

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📎 motioncontrollerpawn.PNG

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please help!!! i've been trying to figure something out for two days D:

shadow radish Mar 19, 2020, 4:30 PM

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hey mate let me see if I can help you

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I am working on UI for bearhammer also

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are you using the vr expansion plugin?

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with the vr expansion plugin you interact with UI via a pointable laser

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I'm not sure how you are clicking in your use case--first step is to validate that your button press is actually happening by putting a breakpoint in your widget class

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try binding your event to OnPressed instead of OnClicked

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looking at my stuff, I have my events bound to OnPressed

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@distant spoke

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I'd also really recommend the AutoSettings plugin in general for doing UI

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thats what I am doing for my settings

distant spoke Mar 19, 2020, 6:07 PM

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uhmmmm im not sure im using the vr expansion plugin actually !!

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btw i manages to get it working from the level BP but i cant still figure it out how to do it in an actor BP

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📎 ACTOR.PNG

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@shadow radish

wind yacht Mar 19, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Has anyone here worked with mobile passthrough materials for AR? My material looks correct, but I get constant flickering when running in-app. Any way to prevent this?

waxen summit Mar 20, 2020, 10:05 AM

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I'm a long term user of UE4 for modding but about to kick off my first whole VR project - can someone comment on whether for VR projects it's still ideal to use forward rendering vs deferred? Could you comment on performance differences and whether it's worth using forward? (I've used both in Unity for VR, so know the functional differences)

woeful sundial Mar 20, 2020, 12:20 PM

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@wind yacht using 4.23 or 4.24? that is a bug. Fixed for 4.25. https://forums.unrealengine.com/development-discussion/ios-development/1678029-screen-tearing-jelly-effect-on-4-23-arkit-camera

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Environment: OSX 10.14, Xcode 11, iPhone XS Max & iPad Air w/ iOS 13.1.3

The screen tearing issue seems only exclusive to 4.23 (and .1), whereas the

mystic idol Mar 20, 2020, 12:35 PM

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Hey all, does anyone know a way to launch a VR preview in editor and be able to retain access to the level editor to fine tune lighting values etc? It's hard to tell what values feel right from the editor window without putting on the headset. Thanks! 🙂

sudden moat Mar 20, 2020, 1:58 PM

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@mystic idol Which headset are you using? If its oculus I tend to go into virtual desktop and do some tweaking in headset, it does the job but its a bit clunky so if anyone can provide a better suggestion then it helps us both 😄

mystic idol Mar 20, 2020, 1:58 PM

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Hey @sudden moat I'm using an oculus DK2

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so not exactly up to speed

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i think i can get used to estimating the difference between the viewport and the actual experience of the light in the headset, but it would be nice to change it a little more interactively

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im trying to tweak volumetric light rays to feel right

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and what makes sense for a screen is really different to a hmd perspective

sudden moat Mar 20, 2020, 2:02 PM

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Okay I'm using the same 🙂 I know there's a VR editor for ue4 but I've never used it! For scenarios like you say i use the virtual desktop (second left from oculus menu) then position my camera in headset and try to get a good sense of it there

mystic idol Mar 20, 2020, 2:03 PM

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in the oculus home app?

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the vr editor in unreal you need to use vr controllers

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i only have a keyboard and mouse

shadow radish Mar 20, 2020, 5:21 PM

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does anyone have any recommendations for vr hands?

wind yacht Mar 20, 2020, 6:06 PM

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@woeful sundial Awesome. Once 4.25 has full release I'll jump on it, thanks 😄

gaunt pumice Mar 21, 2020, 11:25 AM

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Hey Folks, i am currently looking for a way to fake "chrome" reflections for an oculus quest app. no raytracing, more like a shperical environment map in the reflection channel. haven't found any good resources regarding that... would be happe if anyone has some info regarding that...

half otter Mar 21, 2020, 2:56 PM

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If I was to pick up a headset for a bit of development with a side of gaming while being isolated which of the htc/index set ups should I go for?

ionic jetty Mar 21, 2020, 5:08 PM

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are you set on not going for oculus @half otter I'd say the quest or the rift s are best bang for buck.

Best quality is index.

half otter Mar 21, 2020, 5:43 PM

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@ionic jetty I do a bit of virtual production so room scale tracking is helpful

ionic jetty Mar 21, 2020, 5:49 PM

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oh got you

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for virtual production, you'd want vive pro i think

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lighthouse 2.0

cosmic venture Mar 21, 2020, 7:21 PM

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I'm going to buy a Oculus Rift S. Can you still devlop for handless VR controllers like Index or Quest?

hallow knoll Mar 21, 2020, 9:25 PM

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@half otter @ionic jetty Index is the better option, comes with lighthouse 2.0 and you can use vive pucks as well

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@cosmic venture You can make your game work for those controllers but you can't use Rift S with Vive controllers. Depending on how simple your interaction design is, you can say that other controllers are supported, but I would make sure to have someone test before you say that it's supported. Designing interactions for touch controllers and then playing them with Vive or Index controllers won't be the same, there's usually a bit of iteration involved to make it feel right.

covert ferry Mar 22, 2020, 12:43 PM

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Hi all!
I have been looking around for some advice on VR in unreal and was hoping i might find some here ? (I feel like its a very basic issue)...
I would like to test an Environment I made using unreal engine, I used a VR template but I cant figure out how to preview it it vr WITH hands..
I vaguely remember the initial screen allows you to knock some blocks around with VR hands ?
I would really like to get into my level with them so i would be grateful for ANY help or advice!

Thanks in advance!

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https://gyazo.com/7747c130476c6bd924cea4ace5375f55

Gyazo

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The environment i made is the Severn Gymnasium map, I was hoping i could use the hands seen in the above picture to the right to test out my map.

covert ferry Mar 22, 2020, 1:52 PM

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https://gyazo.com/6cf2ad2ef58015481b209ac16b165b37

Gyazo

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I manged to get the hands in but i cant figure out how to enable locomotion..

Full locomotion instead of teleport would be prefered, having both options would be a bonus though incase i have to show someone who gets motion sickness..

covert ferry Mar 22, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Being able to rotate with the thumb stick would be a start XD

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I now have locomotion but cant get rotation with the thumb stick to work, and the teleport sucks because you have to keep the thumb stick clicked in to choose the orientation you end up in when you teleport ... I would much prefer smooth locomotion...

mint knot Mar 22, 2020, 5:31 PM

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i cant recive the head rotation from live link anyone got an idea?

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brazen tree Mar 22, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Hey guys, question about VR. I modified the VR starter content and added thumbstick locomotion. The problem is the player capsule component stays in the center of the play area and can cause strange blocking issues when the player walks around.
anyway around this?

tough silo Mar 22, 2020, 8:28 PM

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I've been asked to do a bit of maintenance on a VR demo. The Pawn has a MotionController (L) Trigger event and a MotionController (R) Trigger event.

For some reason, with my Oculus Rift, regardless of whether I press the left touch controller's trigger or the right touch controller's trigger, MotionController (L) fires and MotionController (R) does not fire.

I set the MotionController component's MotionSource between Left, Right, and AnyHand, and the behaviour is the same.

I know that they're saying these events are deprecated, but I'm trying to favour minimalist changes to implement three specific features the current maintainer wants without flipping everything else upside-down (if possible).

Thoughts as to why both triggers would be firing a MotionController (L) Trigger event?

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Not that I don't really have much experience with VR (previous projects had motion controllers already setup) so I could be making a stupid mistake.

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I also notice that MotionController (L) and MotionController (R) are not even in the list of "Input Key"s anymore.

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It's UE 4.24.3 btw

tough silo Mar 22, 2020, 9:07 PM

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The issue might be because I'm using Oculus Rift w/ Touch through SteamVR... hmm...

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(They wanted me to use the SteamVR plugin even though I only had a Rift.)

tough silo Mar 22, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Yeah it works correctly with Oculus plugin enabled and SteamVR plugin disabled... so I need to somehow get Oculus touch inputs through SteamVR plugin. Hmm.

carmine harness Mar 22, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Is it possible to code vr motion controllers for a flat game so you can have a controller in each hand?

past tiger Mar 22, 2020, 10:08 PM

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@carmine harness Technically yes, but motion controllers are generally not tracked unless the HMD is being worn. You would have to hack a way around that.

tough silo Mar 22, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Yeah so I setup SteamVR to use its own input bindings, and it works now.

fair hearth Mar 23, 2020, 1:36 AM

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@carmine harness you can do this by adding a tag to the steamvr .vrsettings file to run without hmd

carmine harness Mar 23, 2020, 1:37 AM

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@fair hearth thank you

fair hearth Mar 23, 2020, 1:38 AM

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You’re welcome, ping me if you need help with that. What controllers do you intend to use?

elfin venture Mar 23, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Hello i have this detail, have some hours stucked, its for an oculus quest, this is the script of my project settings.

📎 FB_IMG_1584938441556.jpg 📎 FB_IMG_1584938438430.jpg

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📎 Notes_200322_225910_f9e-1.pdf

obtuse condor Mar 23, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Unable to change VR FOV at run-time
Help!

elfin venture Mar 23, 2020, 8:02 AM

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Hi, how do I add yaw input to a vr pawn? AddControllerYawInput is not working. (C++)
@signal ocean
I have this on bp but using the vr pawn motion controller but changed to character it works fine https://blueprintue.com/blueprint/1ksjkr_1/

BlueprintUE

Yaw vr

pastel fern Mar 23, 2020, 10:03 AM

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I'm currently looking into preventing performance loss when you open another window from inside your VR application. E.g. pop up a explorer to show the save game folder to the user. I'm already able to spawn the explorer, but the VR window goes out of focus and performance is crushed. The user should not be set forcefully into a low framerate state.

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Any clue how to prevent out of focus performance loss?

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https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/145958/huge-framerate-drop-when-game-window-unfocused-454.html

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This solution also works in standalone, but I assume not in packaged game

pastel fern Mar 23, 2020, 11:09 AM

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Just tested with the VR template project. In shipping the problem does not exist. VR Window always has full performance

runic cedar Mar 23, 2020, 12:45 PM

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Hello, i have a VR question, mb someone knows that.
When i have two levels i rotated in VR and open the next level the level is not forwarding my VR camera (and i see all with the same rotated angle). How to fix this better way ? I know a bad way, on open level rotate all assets forwarding but it's not optimized and a bad idea i think. How i can open the level forward to the camera in the level opens?

carmine yoke Mar 23, 2020, 1:38 PM

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@runic cedar https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Engine/LevelStreaming/HowTo/StreamWithVolumes/index.html

Stream Sublevels with Level Streaming Volumes

How to use volumes to control the streaming of Levels based on the player's viewpoint.

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Think that should answer your question

mint knot Mar 23, 2020, 1:49 PM

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guys what could be the cause of this function not getting the value? im stuck need some help

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runic cedar Mar 23, 2020, 2:43 PM

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@carmine yoke It's level streaming, but i want open level or load forwarded to the HMD or VR camera..

carmine yoke Mar 23, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Oh

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Hmm

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Let me understand your use case - You're wanting to always spawn into the same spot in the level? Or you're trying to spawn in the correct place based on your IRL location?

runic cedar Mar 23, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Location is fine but rotation is not. I play level 1 and i rotate for 90 in VR. When i switch to another level that new level will not facing me and i need to rotate -90 in VR to be faced level.

carmine yoke Mar 23, 2020, 2:49 PM

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Why not just set location&rotation?

runic cedar Mar 23, 2020, 2:50 PM

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yes mb needs to work with Z rotation from camera to actor

carmine yoke Mar 23, 2020, 2:52 PM

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Wait, surely you could just rotate your playerstart?

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in the level editor I mean

runic cedar Mar 23, 2020, 2:54 PM

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better pawn coz then i needs to take that player start ref to work with it, i pawn i can change Actor rotation (set camera rotation does not work with VR camera)

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in begin play do the math and set actor rotation it's just one to be faced on different VR levels.

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@carmine yoke but thanks for good idea :)
now i will work on it to do rotate pawn in VR levels

carmine yoke Mar 23, 2020, 2:58 PM

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You could use 'FindLookAtRotation' also if you put something in the world to find the rotation

runic cedar Mar 23, 2020, 2:58 PM

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yea

carmine yoke Mar 23, 2020, 2:58 PM

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that might help you be a bit more modular, rather than figuring out exact rotations for each level

runic cedar Mar 23, 2020, 3:03 PM

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runic cedar Mar 23, 2020, 3:30 PM

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@carmine yoke done i find a great VR node thats reset HMD rotation and i just call it on begin play and it's reset Z rotation like needed 🙂

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carmine yoke Mar 23, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Nice 🙂

runic cedar Mar 23, 2020, 3:31 PM

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hope it's will be helpful also for someone.

tired tree Mar 23, 2020, 3:32 PM

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it throws off your roomscale 1:1, though many won't care

runic cedar Mar 23, 2020, 3:35 PM

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ok i will check it thanks

elfin venture Mar 23, 2020, 3:40 PM

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Unable to change VR FOV at run-time
Help!
@obtuse condor have tried it but its the same

runic cedar Mar 23, 2020, 4:01 PM

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@elfin venture mb try to

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lock hmd change fov and unlock hmd

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also you can change it and call "reset orientation and position"

elfin venture Mar 23, 2020, 4:03 PM

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When i launch the project directly in the quest it works fine

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I need the apk

runic cedar Mar 23, 2020, 4:03 PM

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yes i know, but with changing problem

elfin venture Mar 23, 2020, 4:04 PM

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To my customer its on other country i cant get his quest

toxic oracle Mar 24, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Are these versions of inputs gone?

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opaque gorge Mar 24, 2020, 2:23 AM

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@last knot
Okay I have returned but the lot more knowledge. Also I bought a book off Amazon back before the apocalypse happened and I swear it sucks. I'm sorry but I really don't want to redownload an old variant of unreal because a lot of my plugins are with the new

tame cypress Mar 24, 2020, 7:51 AM

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Is there a plugin around that can display the client desktop in VR?

toxic oracle Mar 24, 2020, 8:11 AM

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@tame cypress is this what you’re looking for? https://youtu.be/0up1Lgmw-Lg

YouTube

Unreal Engine

Creating a VR spectator camera | Inside Unreal

On this week’s livestream, learn how to create a project agnostic, VR spectator camera in your UE4 project. Our team will also demonstrate how it can be used to record trailers for VR games, or to create local asymmetrical multiplayer games.

NEWS

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▶ Play video

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Or are you looking for something more along the lines of virtual desktop

sturdy timber Mar 24, 2020, 8:23 AM

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Hi everyone, hesitated between here and #multiplayer but it's more a VR question: when using the Oculus Platform SDK, do you know if the "Room" features relies on P2P or are the rooms hosted on facebook servers in a classic client/server model?

tame cypress Mar 24, 2020, 8:33 AM

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@toxic oracle looking for a virtual desktop, not the spectator screen. Like display desktop like you can in steam native ui.

covert ferry Mar 24, 2020, 11:06 AM

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Anyone able to give me some advice please ? I want to make a doll in my spin perform a spin animation when a button on the oculus touch controller is pressed (Being able to pause and resume would be awesome too).
the problem is that none of the tutorials for non VR seem to work for VR, i was hoping i would be able to follow along without issues.
I will post a couple of videos as examples of what i was hoping would work for my VR project...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veD-eAIaIBI

YouTube

Bartosz Kamiński

Unreal Engine 4 Minutes Beginner TUTORIAL Open Close Door Animation...

If you need any more help or have suggestions about tutorials join me on discord: https://discord.gg/Npd7TAJ

In this tutorial I show how to create mechanics of opening doors the proper way. In Actor Blueprint with Timeline.

▶ Play video

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbCeQLM1lJQ&t=149s

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Jayanam

Unreal Engine Play Animation On Mouse Click

In this UE4 (unreal engine 4) tutorial I show how to play an animation of a character on left mouse click using the Unreal engine 4 blueprint system. I just add a node into my character setup for pressing the left mouse button and Play the animation adding a new node, it's ver...

▶ Play video

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https://gyazo.com/4f3108fe12349c1840e4ca2f30d4edcc

Gyazo

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The Doll in this scene has a spinning animation, it plays continuously when i hit the play button, as i said before i would like it to start with the press of a button on the oculus touch controller, pause and resume would be a massive bonus!
I would be greatful for ANY advice...

covert ferry Mar 24, 2020, 1:27 PM

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AAAAAny help would be amazing, i dont know where else i can seek adivce...

tired tree Mar 24, 2020, 1:37 PM

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all of the non VR tutorials for that should work just fine in VR

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you are just replacing the input event with a different one

covert ferry Mar 24, 2020, 1:59 PM

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@tired tree oh yes it would seem like that would work but it really doesnt...

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as an example in the video i posted above for play animation on mouse click

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the tut uses the character blueprint but in VR that would be the motion controller BP, and i cant seem to get it to work in there for some reason

tired tree Mar 24, 2020, 2:02 PM

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make sure the input is firing and that your logic is running after it

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there is no logical difference

covert ferry Mar 24, 2020, 2:17 PM

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@tired tree it is driving me nuts XD

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https://gyazo.com/f3780d1a69ac685b963f16f8c47e677f

Gyazo

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I need somethnig like this

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https://gyazo.com/9903c1c56b28cc76c24d4390d083f658

Gyazo

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this is what i made but nothing happens when in VR

tired tree Mar 24, 2020, 2:23 PM

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did you bind a key to that action?

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and if you did, make sure your inputs are working

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steamVR needs manifest regeneration sometimes

covert ferry Mar 24, 2020, 2:26 PM

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if im honest i think its because although there is a skeletal mesh node, i havent done anything to identify what htat mesh is or where it is in the scene

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like in the above picture, i want it to play animation with a button press

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when you asked if i had bound the key to the action, is that through the engine > input in the project settings ?

covert ferry Mar 24, 2020, 2:53 PM

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So far my efforts have resulted in a button press creating another mesh behind me which plays the animation, stops and teleports around with me, each time i press the button another spawns... i know its the add skeltal mesh
node doing this but i dont know any other way to reference the mesh other thern dragging it in from the content browser...

shy merlin Mar 24, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Anyone investigate performance hits in Oculus Quest for streaming sublevels? Is it generally bad practice to stream sublevels on android platforms?

little scaffold Mar 24, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Anyone tried to have a VR experience run on a multi display room using the n-display of Unreal?

covert ferry Mar 24, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Has anyone here ever made a vr interaction where you make an animation play by pointing at it and pressing a button ? if so could you explain how you did it ?

covert ferry Mar 24, 2020, 7:31 PM

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So I followed this tutorial ...

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https://youtu.be/pbCeQLM1lJQ

YouTube

Jayanam

Unreal Engine Play Animation On Mouse Click

In this UE4 (unreal engine 4) tutorial I show how to play an animation of a character on left mouse click using the Unreal engine 4 blueprint system. I just add a node into my character setup for pressing the left mouse button and Play the animation adding a new node, it's ver...

▶ Play video

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but because he uses a character BP, I assumed that would be the motion controller pawn... the result i got iss....

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https://gyazo.com/a9fa2162287fac19ae91de9d076cd3b8

Gyazo

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Instead of me pressing a button to play the animation of the doll further away, I now have one that spawns with me and plays contunally...

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https://gyazo.com/2afbcba06f4bd98a23c5b2fb694e2081

Gyazo

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these are the nodes i got from the tut and put into the motion controller pawn

covert ferry Mar 24, 2020, 9:05 PM

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I guess its not as easy to do as i hoped, I cant seem to find any help or advice anywhere, no replys in any VR discord or even the developer forums on the oculus website.
This is very disheartening

idle marten Mar 24, 2020, 11:41 PM

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[Question] hello everyone.. so I'm using StatUnitGraph to see where my performance is going and I noticed no matter what i do.. no matter how low the gamethread is. it takes 10ms to get through the draw calls.. ive followed guidelines for project settings.. Forward renderer, MSAA, no post processing.. and i've even tried it in a completely empty level.. like no sky box or static meshes or anything.. dark, no floor.. still takes 10ms to get through the draw calls..

idle marten Mar 25, 2020, 12:07 AM

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its also odd to me that no matter what my game thread is... 2 ms.. 6 ms.. it still takes 10 ms for the draw calls..

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i've looked into turning "smooth frame rate"off.. and "r.finishcurrentframe"

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could this have to do with the hardware im using? im using a windows mixed reality headset

wild seal Mar 25, 2020, 5:03 AM

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For some reason if I try to bring up the console while in VR preview it gets cut off of the bottom of the screen

flat shoal Mar 25, 2020, 7:59 AM

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I just turned off instanced stereo in VR in order to get Niagara to work, and I must admit... didn't see a massive drop in performance... what are other people's experience with this?

wicked oak Mar 25, 2020, 9:02 AM

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run unreal Insights and you will quickly find your bottleneck

chilly pasture Mar 25, 2020, 9:03 AM

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Hi Everyone ,
anyone using Oculus Quest Hand Tracking.

I am trying to create a product where I can use One Hand From Controller and One From Hand Tracking , Is it possible ?

mighty carbon Mar 25, 2020, 1:11 PM

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no

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it's either both hands or both controllers

little scaffold Mar 25, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Anyone have a 3D widget in the world not affected by the lighting of the scene?

sturdy coral Mar 25, 2020, 7:18 PM

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@flat shoal I think instanced stereo is expected to be a bit slower on the GPU, main savings are CPU

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if you render a tiny object (in screen space) it can get some cache coherency benefits of keeping its textures in cache while drawing both instances and speeds up, but the bigger geometry overhead is supposed to make it a bit worse on the GPU overall

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I'm not sure how much all that changed after the big refactor adding automatic instancing and stuff, maybe that already has the same geo overhead

opaque gorge Mar 25, 2020, 7:33 PM

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All right I'm back again. I'm trying to challenge myself a bit or at least learn a lot more about the software

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that being the case if anybody has any particular piece of coding blueprints like locomotion or guns you think would be interesting for me to try to learn for myself let me know. Basically just give me a challenge for a beginner trying to learn a lot more and I'll try my hardest to make it happen

flat shoal Mar 25, 2020, 8:35 PM

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@sturdy coral thanks... guess I need to check again if I was limited by cpu or gpu on my dev machine

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I seem to remember reading also that Unreal's instanced stereo is not the same as nVidia's stereo rendering, which you can only get through the fun house VR thing...

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(whereas in Unity, if you choose "single pass stereo", I think you do get nvidia's thing)

sturdy coral Mar 25, 2020, 9:17 PM

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I got them to clarify what was different one time, I'll try and find

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I think it had pretty similar overhead

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it was on the nvidia funhouse forums but they wiped out the forums at some point I think

elfin venture Mar 25, 2020, 10:27 PM

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hi everyone i have this problem the incredibuilt is in a infinite loop is for oculus quest

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nimble edge Mar 25, 2020, 11:34 PM

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@covert ferry I sent you a DM

urban canopy Mar 25, 2020, 11:43 PM

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does windows mixed reality work on the vr template?

mighty carbon Mar 26, 2020, 12:07 AM

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https://twitter.com/SadlyItsBradley/status/1242919234549800960

SadlyItsBradley (@SadlyItsBradley)

These physics are AMAZING! @valvesoftware #HalfLifeAlyx https://t.co/lHEdtdeJYp

▶ Play video

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I don't think one can do it with stock UE4... Can you?

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 12:13 AM

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you should be able to do that

cosmic shoal Mar 26, 2020, 12:14 AM

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@urban canopy it does

urban canopy Mar 26, 2020, 12:14 AM

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@cosmic shoal because it wouldn't let me teleport

cosmic shoal Mar 26, 2020, 12:15 AM

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if I remember correctly it was using the disc

urban canopy Mar 26, 2020, 12:16 AM

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I tried the joystick and the discs and neither worked

cosmic shoal Mar 26, 2020, 12:17 AM

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I used it a few versions ago, and the whole VR input thing changed with unreal after that so that might be it.

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 12:17 AM

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@urban canopy are you runing through wmr plugin, openxr plugin, or steamvr plugin?

urban canopy Mar 26, 2020, 12:17 AM

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steamvr

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 12:18 AM

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yeah I'd check the binding stuff. I'm not sure if they have it all generated by default

urban canopy Mar 26, 2020, 12:18 AM

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well I have mixed reality portal and steam vr open

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 12:18 AM

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ah well that doesn't necessarily mean it is using steamvr, look in project plugins

urban canopy Mar 26, 2020, 12:18 AM

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alright

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yeah I'm using steamvr

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 12:19 AM

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but are the others enabled?

cosmic shoal Mar 26, 2020, 12:19 AM

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I have played with phisics in VR with Unreal, and it does work, but it was pretty unstable, things would jitter and explode for no apparent reason.

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 12:19 AM

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steamvr has lowest priority

urban canopy Mar 26, 2020, 12:20 AM

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should I switch it too wmr?

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 12:20 AM

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I use steamvr for everything, even WMR stuff

cosmic shoal Mar 26, 2020, 12:20 AM

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I was using steam too

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for wmr

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 12:21 AM

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the advantage of the WMR plugin is you'll get joystick clicks where steam consumes them for menu buttons

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@urban canopy check logs for this:

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urban canopy Mar 26, 2020, 12:22 AM

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okay

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 12:22 AM

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to make sure you really are using steamvr

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you can also turn on the steamvr mirror window (not wmr mirror)

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and if things are showing up in there from engine you are using it

urban canopy Mar 26, 2020, 12:23 AM

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alright

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okay so I'm using steamvr

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how do I turn on the mirror window?

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 12:26 AM

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@urban canopy

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'display vr view'

urban canopy Mar 26, 2020, 12:26 AM

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ahh okay

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 12:27 AM

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you can also sort of tell in WMR by returning to cliffhouse and seeing if you have to return to the game by going through a steamvr window in the cliffhouse

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if it is running with native WMR or openxr I think you return through a separate thing for the specific app, not sure

urban canopy Mar 26, 2020, 12:28 AM

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ohh wait I just realized when I installed the drivers for my headset, I started using openxr

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so should I switch that off?

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 12:28 AM

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I think that is different than having UE4 use openxr

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and you shouldn't turn that off in WMR settings

urban canopy Mar 26, 2020, 12:28 AM

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okay

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and I checked to see if my engine display popped up in steam vr, and it sort of did

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it would flicker between waiting and my engine display

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 12:29 AM

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ah, but if you hit vr preview then look, it is in the steamvr mirror right?

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or does it flicker even then?

urban canopy Mar 26, 2020, 12:30 AM

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no not anymore

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 12:34 AM

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@urban canopy try clicking each of these thing in order from top to bottom:

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except the last one

urban canopy Mar 26, 2020, 12:35 AM

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alright

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 12:35 AM

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if it still doesn't work after that you may have to add wmr bindings under input settings, I can't remember if they are there by default

urban canopy Mar 26, 2020, 12:36 AM

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they are

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at least the thumbstick ones are, hold on

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they are mapped to the thumbstick

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I think I'm just gonna map the pawn to thumbstick movement instead of teleporting

sturdy timber Mar 26, 2020, 3:31 PM

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silly question here: do you know if I can test multiplayer in editor knowing that one player is in VR and the other is not? Unreal seems to fail to that (4.23)

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 3:41 PM

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@sturdy timber you may be able to do it by querying if the viewport is stereoscopic

sturdy timber Mar 26, 2020, 3:42 PM

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Thanks!

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 3:43 PM

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I modified UGameInstance::InitializeForPlayInEditor to pass in whether it was vr preview or not, but I think it i possible through looking at the viewport

sturdy timber Mar 26, 2020, 3:44 PM

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I will look into this method, never worked with it! Thanks for the hint 🙂 Right now it seems to just shut down the VR Preview when trying vr preview with player = 2

tired tree Mar 26, 2020, 3:46 PM

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@signal ocean its not moving your pawn, it is your headset moving as it is offset in relative space from the pawn cetner

sturdy timber Mar 26, 2020, 4:13 PM

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Ok I know where my problem is coming from: even if my first local player does not need VR, it grabs steamvr. So when the second player connects, it crashes the first as SteamVR does not like two apps wanting it at the same time. It's strange because I disabled StartInVR

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(so the first player should not start SteamVR)

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should'nt the -nohmd option prevent the launching of SteamVR? Or has the name of the option changed?

sturdy timber Mar 26, 2020, 4:52 PM

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ok it seems that steamvr is started before the UnrealEngine HMD initialization, it seems to be something very low level. Not sure I can disable SteamVR launching without disabling the plugin, which would not work for me 😦

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 5:27 PM

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@sturdy timber I thought you were trying to do it all in one editor session. -nohmd should work for multiple instances

sturdy timber Mar 26, 2020, 5:27 PM

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yes I tried that, but did not manage to make it work

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 5:27 PM

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There were some bugs where they started steamvr even if you used nohmd but I thought they were all fixed by now

sturdy timber Mar 26, 2020, 5:28 PM

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actually I dug into the code, and the initialization of SteamVR is basically forced if the plugin is enabled

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it's very early in the RHI thread initialization

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 5:28 PM

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What version?

sturdy timber Mar 26, 2020, 5:28 PM

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4.23

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A possible solution I can see (even if I don't know how to properly implement that) would be to create a fake HMD module with a higher priority

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 5:28 PM

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One happened from getting audio device, I think only with oculus not steamvr

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The new steamvr input system introduced one or two

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But I think it is fixed on later versions

sturdy timber Mar 26, 2020, 5:29 PM

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hmm well, to be honest, I'm using an oculus on steamvr (don't ask me why xD) but it should not change anything, shouldn't it?

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 5:30 PM

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RHI may be another

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There was a place where this queries adapter from steamvr

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And caused it

sturdy timber Mar 26, 2020, 5:30 PM

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yes it's that

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 5:30 PM

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I'll send you a patch to fix that if it hasn't been merged

sturdy timber Mar 26, 2020, 5:30 PM

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exactly that in DynamicRHIModule::FindAdapter

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that's where it triggers steamvr if there is a hmd + steamvr available

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so basically the engine will start steamvr if a HMD is detected, even if the game/editor does not use it afterward

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WindowsD3D11Device.cpp:762

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I believe it's not a big deal as long as you do not need to test multiplayer on one machine

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but when you need that, it's kind of a deal breaker

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thanks for the patch 🙂

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(I'm on 4.23)

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 5:33 PM

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--- a/Engine/Source/Runtime/D3D12RHI/Private/Windows/WindowsD3D12Device.cpp
+++ b/Engine/Source/Runtime/D3D12RHI/Private/Windows/WindowsD3D12Device.cpp
@@ -292,7 +292,11 @@ void FD3D12DynamicRHIModule::FindAdapter()
 #endif

        // Allow HMD to override which graphics adapter is chosen, so we pick the adapter where the HMD is connected
-       uint64 HmdGraphicsAdapterLuid = IHeadMountedDisplayModule::IsAvailable() ? IHeadMountedDisplayModule::Get().GetGraphicsAdapterLuid() : 0;
+       uint64 HmdGraphicsAdapterLuid = 0;
+       if (!FParse::Param(FCommandLine::Get(), TEXT("nohmd")))
+       {
+               HmdGraphicsAdapterLuid = IHeadMountedDisplayModule::IsAvailable() ? IHeadMountedDisplayModule::Get().GetGraphicsAdapterLuid() : 0;
+       }
        // Non-static as it is used only a few times
        auto* CVarGraphicsAdapter = IConsoleManager::Get().FindTConsoleVariableDataInt(TEXT("r.GraphicsAdapter"));
        int32 CVarExplicitAdapterValue = HmdGraphicsAdapterLuid == 0 ? (CVarGraphicsAdapter ? CVarGraphicsAdapter->GetValueOnGameThread() : -1) : -2;```

sturdy timber Mar 26, 2020, 5:33 PM

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aaah so clever, simple and elegant

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 5:33 PM

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you have to do that on b/Engine/Source/Runtime/Apple/MetalRHI/Private/MetalContext.cpp b/Engine/Source/Runtime/VulkanRHI/Private/VulkanRHI.cpp b/Engine/Source/Runtime/Windows/D3D11RHI/Private/Windows/WindowsD3D11Device.cpp

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as well

sturdy timber Mar 26, 2020, 5:33 PM

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well, I need to get the engine source but at least it will solve my problem, thank you so much!

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 5:34 PM

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np

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oculus fix is:


diff --git a/Engine/Source/Runtime/Engine/Private/AudioDevice.cpp b/Engine/Source/Runtime/Engine/Private/AudioDevice.cpp
index d87938a80e0..2723a4b918b 100644
--- a/Engine/Source/Runtime/Engine/Private/AudioDevice.cpp
+++ b/Engine/Source/Runtime/Engine/Private/AudioDevice.cpp
@@ -6073,7 +6073,7 @@ bool FAudioDevice::CanUseVRAudioDevice()
        else
 #endif
        {
-               return FParse::Param(FCommandLine::Get(), TEXT("vr")) || GetDefault<UGeneralProjectSettings>()->bStartInVR;
+               return FParse::Param(FCommandLine::Get(), TEXT("vr")) || (GetDefault<UGeneralProjectSettings>()->bStartInVR && !FParse::Param(FCommandLine::Get(), TEXT("nohmd")));
        }
 }

diff --git a/Engine/Source/Runtime/Online/Voice/Private/Windows/VoiceModuleWindows.cpp b/Engine/Source/Runtime/Online/Voice/Private/Windows/VoiceModuleWindows.cpp
index d1afb9766eb..4854444d279 100644
--- a/Engine/Source/Runtime/Online/Voice/Private/Windows/VoiceModuleWindows.cpp
+++ b/Engine/Source/Runtime/Online/Voice/Private/Windows/VoiceModuleWindows.cpp
@@ -7,6 +7,7 @@
 #include "VoiceCodecOpus.h"
 #include "Voice.h"
 #include "Runtime/HeadMountedDisplay/Public/IHeadMountedDisplayModule.h"
+#include "Runtime/Engine/Public/AudioDevice.h"
 #include "HAL/IConsoleManager.h"
 #if PLATFORM_SUPPORTS_VOICE_CAPTURE

@@ -269,7 +270,7 @@ bool FVoiceCaptureDeviceWindows::Init()
                return false;
        }

-       if (IHeadMountedDisplayModule::IsAvailable())
+       if (FAudioDevice::CanUseVRAudioDevice() && IHeadMountedDisplayModule::IsAvailable())
        {
                HMDAudioInputDevice = IHeadMountedDisplayModule::Get().GetAudioInputDevice();
        }```

sturdy timber Mar 26, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Thanks! Even if I'm not using the Oculus plugin, just the hardware?

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 5:35 PM

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I think it is fine if not using oculus plugin

sturdy timber Mar 26, 2020, 5:36 PM

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cool thanks

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 5:36 PM

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oculus gives you a specific audio adapter to use, steamvr just changes the system default

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so the steamvr one doesn't end up launching the runtime to look for the device

sturdy timber Mar 26, 2020, 5:36 PM

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maybe stupid question but why not using the bStartInVR for the RHI fix?

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the Settings system is not ready yet at this stage?

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 5:38 PM

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even if not starting in vr I think if you then turned on vr manually it would break if you picked the wrong adapter

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same is probably true of the audio thing, but I guess if you are doing something complicated between 2d and vr with oculus you should handle switching audio devices manually

sturdy timber Mar 26, 2020, 5:39 PM

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ok, thanks for your time and expertise 🙂

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 5:40 PM

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np, I ran into all this and more already because I switch VR/2d at runtime

sturdy timber Mar 26, 2020, 5:40 PM

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wow I see, not an usual case

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Edit: nevermind x)

misty basalt Mar 26, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Hey! I have to provide my boss with specifications for a new laptop for me to use for VR/AR development. Any recommendations for specific models (in different price ranges if possible, not sure where the boss sets the limit) and recommended requirements? I have done some VR development before, but that was on an old Oculus DK2 so not really comparable to high-end headsets of today.

cosmic shoal Mar 26, 2020, 7:02 PM

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avoid laptop if possible, either way get the best graphics card you can afford, that's really it.

elfin venture Mar 26, 2020, 8:07 PM

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hi guys

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i developed an app for a oculus quest and

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when i run the apk in the quest it close in that moment

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and says the app were closed

idle osprey Mar 26, 2020, 10:02 PM

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I'd check logcat

sturdy coral Mar 26, 2020, 11:22 PM

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@misty basalt I’d say 1660ti or up

misty basalt Mar 27, 2020, 2:35 AM

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All right, thanks @cosmic shoal and @sturdy coral !

sturdy timber Mar 27, 2020, 6:42 AM

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@signal ocean what are you trying to rotate?

sturdy timber Mar 27, 2020, 7:02 AM

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TheVRPawn ?

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When you are in VR, your hmd does not modify the Root location/orientation of your pawn, only the camera

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If you rotate the root, it will rotate the camera around the Root , as it is its child

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Therefore the camera will "move", like a planet around the sun (sorry for this Bad exemple)

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If you want to rotate your hmd using an input, you need to directly rotate the camera @signal ocean

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The root of your pawn is the origin of your vr space

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I would say grab the camera component of your pawn and do an AddRotation

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Basically in VR you want to detect the rotation as "on/off' so put a treshold on the axis value, and when the treshold is reached, apply thé rotation and then do nothing until beyond treshold and upon treshold again

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If you use a rotator instead it's easier

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You will directly have the yaw value

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Np, you can construct a rotator from a quaternion

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Cpp or blueprint?

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basically the FRotator constructor can take a Quaternion, as easy as that 🙂 https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/API/Runtime/Core/Math/FRotator/index.html

FRotator

Implements a container for rotation information. All rotation values are stored in degrees.

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oups sorry you want it the other way

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but wait, AddLocalRotation works with a FRotator too

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ah yes seemed strange

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Mmm, check that the input is correctly fired

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can you paste your code?

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are you in the controller or the pawn directly?

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ah

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I'm stupid

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It's more complicated than that, your camera rotation will be overriden by your hmd

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Try by putting a parent to the camera

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and rotate the parent

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but the parent need to have the same position than the camera

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Ok cool!

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Out of curiosity, when you say your scene, you mean what?

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Your scene is the Root ?

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Do you update your scene position each frame so it's the same as the camera?

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Ah yes it would not work

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Mmm I don't know... AddDeltaRotation maybe

dusky moon Mar 27, 2020, 8:27 AM

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Guys I need some tips / I want to to Live streams from VR (with Youtube)
is there a way to load up Live Chat as a widget in VR as an overlay/etc ?!

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I thought of a hacky way to do it and put a webcam infront of my screen that shows the live chat but maybe there's a cleaner way

covert ferry Mar 27, 2020, 8:57 AM

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Could i get some advice please, I recently downloaded the "Ability pack - Time and space" from the market place.
I could really use some advice on changing adapting this to work on my VR character (The original is made for 3rd person).

trail shale Mar 27, 2020, 12:32 PM

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@covert ferry can you show me a blueprint?

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So, anything that affects the global time dilation should work because it's a global event

covert ferry Mar 27, 2020, 12:34 PM

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@trail shale Absolutely

trail shale Mar 27, 2020, 12:34 PM

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VR won't make a difference on that

covert ferry Mar 27, 2020, 12:34 PM

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@trail shale well theres a lot of references for character in the BP

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but im guessing that would need to be motioncontrollerpawn ?

trail shale Mar 27, 2020, 12:35 PM

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Same thing for movement abilities, if you are physically setting the location, that shouldn't matter, you might have to change where the "future location" is getting calculated...like "get forward vector" of a certain component of the character

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not sure

covert ferry Mar 27, 2020, 12:35 PM

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ill show you what they look like

trail shale Mar 27, 2020, 12:35 PM

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what are you trying to get work, specifically, other than everything

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in a way, you might just need to delete stuff

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Characters are more complex than pawns obviously, so they have things like movement components that you won't have to worry about in VR, unless you are setting up some type of spectator or replay system

covert ferry Mar 27, 2020, 12:36 PM

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Ok so i picked up the abaility pack because i have an unreal mannequin in the scene doing various animations. i would like the ability to slow them down or even stop them with button presses

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https://gyazo.com/d2de90ecd9498a6ed828d94be06eba3b

Gyazo

trail shale Mar 27, 2020, 12:37 PM

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reach out to the person who made the pack but in the meantime, slowing down animations, if you want to brute force it, you can just do a global time duration

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sorry, time dilation

covert ferry Mar 27, 2020, 12:37 PM

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here is where the abillities are, ill show you bp of them now

trail shale Mar 27, 2020, 12:38 PM

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covert ferry Mar 27, 2020, 12:38 PM

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https://gyazo.com/137d38463d7b09fb8c661da69169cf30

Gyazo

trail shale Mar 27, 2020, 12:39 PM

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Have you played with just brute force setting the global time dilation?

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Also, you're an evil person if you expect me to read that screen shot 🙂

covert ferry Mar 27, 2020, 12:40 PM

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https://gyazo.com/62be3f25af44c13bfaa558e806800ed2

Gyazo

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https://gyazo.com/260039f6af6125b5b7caf152b79df08c

Gyazo

trail shale Mar 27, 2020, 12:40 PM

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From what I can tell, you really only need to update references, the "math" as it were of that slow motion shouldn't make a difference in VR

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Well you need to retarget your movement events to actually hit your "character" which in your case is your VR pawn

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I need to head to a doctor's appt (no COVID or anything) but my advice to you would be to look at what is being changed and then maybe look at some of the VR Pawn setup videos

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Also, do you want everything slowed down, or just the movement/animations

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Global time dilation is very simple but it affects most things

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hence, "global"

covert ferry Mar 27, 2020, 12:42 PM

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LMAO @trail shale sorry im just trying to give you a rough idea, i can get closer screen shots for you if needed.

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I havent tried time dilation, is that possible to put into a button press ?

trail shale Mar 27, 2020, 12:43 PM

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well I need to go, I can see about chekcing this later but just remember, you need to understand what is different about a character VERSUS a pawn, because that's mainly what this appears to be an issue of, you have a plugin for CHARACTERS but you have a vr PAWN

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yes, very easily but it will affect everything, including timers I believe

covert ferry Mar 27, 2020, 12:44 PM

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that would be totally fine !

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if i can learn to do that it would be a large chunk of my concept done

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hope your appt goes well @trail shale thanks for taking the time to help me with this!

keen prawn Mar 27, 2020, 3:15 PM

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if i try to delete a sequencer keyframe in VR editor i get this error

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/375020247335567360/693087278708293722/unknown.png

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like it tries to delete the whole object from the scene

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any1 know how to just delete the keyframe like it does in normal editor by default?

elfin venture Mar 27, 2020, 5:28 PM

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worthy python Mar 27, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Hmm, I'm trying to create a FPS test character based on a VRCharacter, but whenever I try and spawn it using a PlayerStart or VRPlayerStart it always seems to be offset from where it should be

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I feel like there's something obvious I'm missing, because I haven't actually made any functional changes beyond dragging the camera up and unlocking the hmd from the camera (and settings the vrcapsule offset to 0)

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Looks like I don't have an offset using a VRSimpleCharacter though

tired tree Mar 28, 2020, 12:20 AM

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I manually spawn at them because overriding the default spawn logic would require multiple new classes just for that

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have to offset by the HMD's location / rotation

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can just SetActorLocationAndRotationVR to the player start

weak cloud Mar 28, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Is there a best practice for avoiding off-center HMD rotation while rotating player character with the thumbstick.
By off-center, I mean when the pivot of rotation is at characters' origin, but the camera has different x and y position from the character.

sturdy coral Mar 28, 2020, 8:18 PM

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@weak cloud do you have a character or pawn?

weak cloud Mar 28, 2020, 8:59 PM

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@sturdy coral a character

keen prawn Mar 28, 2020, 9:03 PM

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https://drive.google.com/open?id=1wLyZWPKssLzRnRNpPR8OnCEy8i0pa0x1

Google Drive

2020.03.28-21.34.mp4

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i cant delete my keyframes in vr

sturdy coral Mar 29, 2020, 12:24 AM

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@weak cloud if you don’t have a body and stuff on the character, and don’t have direction related movement speeds, you can rotate the vr root around the headset through inverting and composing transforms and stuff

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You may just want to use mordentral’s plugin’s character though, it handles that and a lot more

ornate scaffold Mar 29, 2020, 2:00 AM

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does anyone know a good way to check if the VR player camera is overlapping? for FPS I could easily check if the actor class is FirstPersonCharacter like so:

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but I tried the same for MotionControllerPawn and it doesn't seem to pass the equality check

tired tree Mar 29, 2020, 2:45 AM

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@ornate scaffold you need to add a collision body around the camera, cameras don't have collision by themsevles

ornate scaffold Mar 29, 2020, 2:54 AM

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oh freakin brilliant, thank you so much @tired tree

weak cloud Mar 29, 2020, 4:14 AM

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@sturdy coral yeah i figured something out, it works fine for time being.

covert ferry Mar 29, 2020, 9:54 AM

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Hi!
I have a concept for an animation viewer.

I want to use a menu to view different animations being played (it is to learn/critique skills in sports) it will be viewed in VR.

Do I make a duplicate level for each animation and have the manu open up those levels or is it easier to load in each animation Into the same level?

Bearing in mind I would want the existing one to go away when loading I the new one...

I would be grateful for any advice!

real eagle Mar 29, 2020, 9:59 AM

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i wish to attach the vr camera to the head of my character. so that the character follow my movements in my play area as well. Is this something someone can help me with?

daring mural Mar 29, 2020, 5:27 PM

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How do we show the splash screen in the monitor preview? Player sees it in the HMD but the preview shows the ugly map loading 😅

sturdy coral Mar 29, 2020, 5:51 PM

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@daring mural https://github.com/ValveSoftware/openvr/commit/26fa19eb86ab3c589af2bdbc77449d61a8ff799b

GitHub

# OpenVR SDK 1.10.30 · ValveSoftware/openvr@26fa19e

IVRHeadsetView:

Allows scene applications access the contents of the "VR View" window, including modifying properties of their own instances of that window. See the header file ...

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I think the new IVRHeadsetView will let you get the mirror view texture after compositing, so it includes any overlays like loading screens

ornate scaffold Mar 29, 2020, 8:02 PM

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so with the Oculus Quest with Link enabled, what reason could there be for incredible lag while using the headset in play mode?

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when I change to a first person character instead of motion controller pawn, everything is great and I move around fine

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but once its motion controller pawn and start it up with the headset (or I do stereo on in full screen) the lag is sickening

left dawn Mar 29, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Can someone help me with vr? I'm trying to cast to BP_MotionControllers through MotionControllerPawn

fair hearth Mar 29, 2020, 9:19 PM

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You shouldn’t need to cast to them @left dawn

When they’re spawned in you can set a variable(s) to represent the controllers

left dawn Mar 29, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Yeah, I got someone to help me but thanks

random lichen Mar 30, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Where can I find the C++ documetation on events like the ones for vr controllers? https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Platforms/VR/DevelopVR/UsingTouchControllers/index.html

Using Motion Controllers

Showing you how to pick up and drop objects using Motion Controllers.

sturdy timber Mar 30, 2020, 6:56 AM

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Silly question here but just in case: if using Oculus SDK P2P/Avatar/VoIP solutions, will it work if the user is using a Vive or non Oculus headset?

carmine yoke Mar 30, 2020, 11:01 AM

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when I change to a first person character instead of motion controller pawn, everything is great and I move around fine
@ornate scaffoldI had that, pretty sure it was because the usb I plugged it into wasn't 3.0

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Try a different port

ornate scaffold Mar 30, 2020, 12:27 PM

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thanks for the reply - but the thing is it works great in an empty map, and only happens when I look at an area with a lot of props

carmine yoke Mar 30, 2020, 3:10 PM

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And it works fine when you're just in the oculus home? @ornate scaffold

ornate scaffold Mar 30, 2020, 3:26 PM

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yeah the home "room" and menu specific to oculus link runs buttery smooth

daring mural Mar 30, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Anyone here working with the Oculus Go?

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I have a couple basic questions

last knot Mar 30, 2020, 4:16 PM

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Has anyone here actually successfully uploaded a build to the Oculus dashboard? Here's our situation: we're going some in-house development and have several proof-of-concepts that we're wanting to distribute through the developer feed to our 18 scattered working from home people. I could only create Oculus Go/Gear VR apps through the dashboard because I obviously haven't done pitches for facebook for these proof of concepts. I'm wondering if some of the errorrs that are popping up when I try to upload a build are because it thinkgs it's a Go/GearVR app. Here's the four errors it gives me:

* APK install location should be auto (android:installLocation in AndroidManifest.xml). See documentation at: https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/publish/latest/concepts/publish-mobile-manifest/
* APK is debuggable (android:debuggable in AndroidManifest.xml).
* Exclude from Recents (android:excludeFromRecents in AndroidManifest.xml) must be set to true.```

mighty carbon Mar 30, 2020, 9:15 PM

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damn, https://80.lv/articles/3ds-max-indie-will-be-available-worldwide/

3ds Max Indie Will Be Available Worldwide

Great news from Autodesk.

toxic oracle Mar 31, 2020, 3:15 AM

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Has anyone here has used the audio capture component on the oculus quest? I’m working on getting it to work but running into some issues

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Upon doing some more googling I think it’s PC only

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Let’s say I wanted to do something like yelling to blow bubbles in VR on the quest, does anyone have a recommendation on how to go about doing that?

sturdy timber Mar 31, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Which UE version do you use? The AudioCaptureComponent is coming to Android, I even think I saw the source code for android in the 4.24 so maybe it's working in this version.

toxic oracle Mar 31, 2020, 5:54 AM

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UE4.24, I actually think there may be some code to do mic capture on android as in my debug messages there's a fail assertion that causes a crash

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Assertion failed: AudioCapture.IsStreamOpen() [File:D:/Build/++UE4/Sync/Engine/Source/Runtime/AudioCaptureCore/Private/AudioCaptureCore.cpp] [Line: 189]

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My guess is that it's not detecting any audio devices and when there are no audio devices, it crashes

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*audio input devices

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I'm also making sure the first thing that it does is request permission to use the mic, so that's not causing the issue either

covert ferry Mar 31, 2020, 10:00 AM

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Has anyone here ever made a quick time event in a vr game/app/experience where the prompt for success was to get your hands into or onto a set location ?

mighty carbon Mar 31, 2020, 11:35 AM

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@sturdy timber that would be nice, if it's true.. Mic input on Android was something I wanted to have since 4.16

sturdy timber Mar 31, 2020, 11:51 AM

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I remember seeing on the forum that it was on the road map, and then seeing on Github that some elements in the source code were there

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https://github.com/EpicGames/UnrealEngine/tree/release/Engine/Source/Runtime/AudioCaptureImplementations/Android/AudioCaptureAndroid

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I don't know if it's working as intended or a WIP, and if it needs something in the config to be activated, but at least some code is there

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it seems to be as @toxic oracle says, the default mic detection must be failing

toxic oracle Mar 31, 2020, 2:05 PM

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It seems like it should fail more gracefully than a hard crash

ornate scaffold Mar 31, 2020, 2:09 PM

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should there be any difference in lagginess/performance when "Play"ing in oculus quest VR via Link and FirstPersonCharacter? does anyone happen to know?

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or should they have the same performance since they're both using the PC?

tacit quest Mar 31, 2020, 2:23 PM

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i experienced crashes if i just had an incorrect setup with audiocapture component, but i'm using desktop and recording my wav to file

pastel fern Mar 31, 2020, 8:25 PM

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@ornate scaffold there definitely is a performance difference between Quest VR and non VR First Person

ornate scaffold Mar 31, 2020, 8:28 PM

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hmm do you know what attributes to that difference?

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I recently found a way to check via fps - getting like 35 fps in play vr compared to 80 in firstperson

tired tree Mar 31, 2020, 10:25 PM

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It has to render and project much of the scene twice, once for each eye

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As well as generally being a decent resolution, while pie is usually a small resolution

ornate scaffold Apr 1, 2020, 12:13 AM

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ahh I see

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makes much sense, thanks

chrome siren Apr 1, 2020, 7:32 AM

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how do I set up device profiles for the oculus quest? I can't find any documentation actually talking about it

gilded hamlet Apr 1, 2020, 4:13 PM

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Anyone know what the timeline is for getting Quest hand tracking in UE4? (non-source build)

trail shale Apr 1, 2020, 5:24 PM

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anyone here use the index in any virtual desktop application? seems there are no clear winners yet, looks like a tie between OVR/OVR toolkit and Virtual Desktop, with BigScreenBeta up there as well

toxic oracle Apr 2, 2020, 1:41 AM

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This is a little off topic from that but I really like the virtual desktop in oculus dash

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It’s light weight and doesn’t make you go into a separate application so you’re testing VR code, you don’t have to take off the headset to write it you can just pin the virtual desktop

random lichen Apr 2, 2020, 2:12 AM

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I have two UMotionControllerComponents as part of my VR Pawn, but when I play the game, the controllers are offset from the camera. They are not parented to the camera, instead the camera and the two controllers are all parented to a box collider

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how can I set the initial position of the controllers so that they draw in the correct place?

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the structure:

📎 unknown.png

toxic oracle Apr 2, 2020, 2:40 AM

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@random lichen are the components at 0,0,0?

mighty carbon Apr 2, 2020, 2:52 AM

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https://uploadvr.com/steamvr-hardware-survey-mar-2020/

UploadVR

David Heaney

More Than 1 Million Steam Users Now Own A VR Headset

Steam's Hardware Survey now includes any headset used in the past month, revealing that 1.16% of users have a SteamVR compatible headset! Here's which ones.

random lichen Apr 2, 2020, 3:10 AM

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@toxic oracle I didn’t check but I’m pretty sure they are

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Well they’re part of the VR pawn

keen prawn Apr 2, 2020, 7:29 AM

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i thought there would be more normal rifts that rift S

cosmic shoal Apr 2, 2020, 7:30 AM

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there are, "used in the past month" is a different story, still surprising

keen prawn Apr 2, 2020, 7:40 AM

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the rift is sold longer and the S never really got presented as an upgrade to the rift

cosmic shoal Apr 2, 2020, 7:54 AM

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I wonder how many quests with cable those Rifts are.

mighty carbon Apr 2, 2020, 11:27 AM

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None, because Valve tracks Quest + Link separately

vernal kernel Apr 2, 2020, 3:17 PM

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damn, https://80.lv/articles/3ds-max-indie-will-be-available-worldwide/
@mighty carbon Just use blender, free and far better than max imo

3ds Max Indie Will Be Available Worldwide

Great news from Autodesk.

mighty carbon Apr 2, 2020, 3:21 PM

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I've been using Blender.. since like 2005

opaque gorge Apr 2, 2020, 6:55 PM

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I am currently trying to use the trigger boxes. The only real problem I have is that when I set up my World blueprint in a way where I can actually use it. It doesn't seem to register I even used a print string just to see if it would.

I feel like I'm doing something very wrong here but if anybody has any advice please @ me.

I'm going to see if I can modify a capsule Collision would that work

cedar siren Apr 2, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Hello community! I'm about to start an AR project. How good is UE4 for that and what could be my stepbacks or problems?

opaque gorge Apr 2, 2020, 8:24 PM

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@cedar siren depends what are you trying to do

cedar siren Apr 2, 2020, 8:26 PM

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Let say that I want build something like a furniture ar thing

split burrow Apr 2, 2020, 9:44 PM

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I know this is probably pretty simple, but I'm trying to detect HMD movement left or right of a position recorded when a button is pushed. This works fine when you constrain it to one axis, but I'm having trouble wrapping my head around what this looks like when not along an axis

opaque gorge Apr 2, 2020, 9:45 PM

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@cedar siren
When it comes down to building furniture. You might want to go to blender and use a free add-on they have that allows you to make furniture and then just export it to Unreal. But what you're probably asking about is can you make it touchable for the player?

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@cedar siren
If that is the case then I have quite a few tutorials that work for me that you can easily use. Furniture interaction is easy to a degree. Everything else like trying to shoot a laser blast out of your right hand while shooting with your left from incoming bullet is where things get difficult

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@split burrow are you trying to use locomotion

split burrow Apr 2, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Right now I'm just grabbing the HMD's y-position in tracking-space and checking if it is positive or negative from that

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Think leaning on a skateboard

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Yes, trying to do locomotion controlled by leaning

opaque gorge Apr 2, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Yep I'm sorry to say but we should probably get a moderator involved for that one because I can send you a up-to-date tutorial on how to set up locomotion but not too good with just leaning... I tried and it made me sick

split burrow Apr 2, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Well I guess I'm really just concerned with normalizing the coordinates based on which way the HMD is rotated. I know I need the x-pos, y-pos, and yaw, but I can't really envision how to put them together

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If there's more to locomotion that I need to consider as well, then by all means

opaque gorge Apr 2, 2020, 9:51 PM

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I'm sorry man I don't think I can be much of any help but if you want to learn more about Locomotion I can send you a link. I'm sorry I can't do more for you.

split burrow Apr 2, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Yeah if you're willing then please do!

opaque gorge Apr 2, 2020, 9:54 PM

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@split burrow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtEYIh9ndkc&list=PLBnizEcPzjJQ2ffJsFoXcbkcAjf93btRy&index=3&t=0s

YouTube

Marco Ghislanzoni

[ArchViz] Thumbstick locomotion & gravity with the standard VR temp...

This step-by-step tutorial shows how to implement thumbstick (aka gamepad or joystick) locomotion as an alternative to teleportation in the standard VR template.

It adds the ability to walk up and down stairs and ramps, making it particularly suited for ArchViz.

This method ...

▶ Play video

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I don't know what it is but this man has helped me on more than one occasion with his videos. There's no audio but he hasn't failed me once

split burrow Apr 3, 2020, 12:16 AM

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This was helpful, thanks!

opaque gorge Apr 3, 2020, 1:49 AM

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@split burrow
You're welcome man. If I'm going to help somebody I might as well show them pictures and a video because it's much easier seen then said.

random lichen Apr 3, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Where can I find the C++ equivalent to the Blueprint event MotionController (L) Trigger?
https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/BlueprintAPI/Input/GamepadEvents/MotionController_L_Trigger/index.html

MotionController (L) Trigger

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I'm trying to not use blueprint at all for this project

keen prawn Apr 3, 2020, 6:36 AM

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open the BP and keep goin up the parent

severe stump Apr 3, 2020, 11:30 AM

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Any place where to get more detailed info on this?

📎 screenshot_2020-04-03_at_13.16.54.png

distant spoke Apr 3, 2020, 11:55 AM

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any idea why my fps in VR dropped drastically after building lightmaps ?

distant spoke Apr 3, 2020, 12:24 PM

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@severe stump hey Marta 😄

little scaffold Apr 3, 2020, 2:46 PM

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@distant spoke use the command stat unit and show the result

severe stump Apr 3, 2020, 2:51 PM

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@distant spoke we know each other?:)

distant spoke Apr 3, 2020, 5:02 PM

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@severe stump we follow each other on insta ! And in friend with teaa :)

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It's Matteo zamagni here :)

severe stump Apr 3, 2020, 5:05 PM

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@distant spoke oooh Matteo! cheers ^o^

sonic lake Apr 3, 2020, 8:29 PM

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@random lichen you need to bind a delegate to the input. Check here: https://xrdeveloper.net/2018/11/08/motion-controller-input-for-player-pawn/

Game Development Articles and Tutorials

DarkRyder

Motion Controller Input for Player Pawn

In the last part of the tutorial series, we will look at adding code for input handling on the rift’s motion controller. As with the other parts of the tutorial series, this part builds on t…

nocturne oyster Apr 3, 2020, 10:31 PM

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ummm.. why is there no text chat for windows platform?

torpid steeple Apr 4, 2020, 9:49 PM

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I converted the OpenCV article that got deleted when the Wiki was taken down into a normal thing: https://gg-labs.gitbook.io/unreal-engine-4-guide/wiki-archives/ar-vr/integrating-opencv-into-unreal-engine-4

Integrating OpenCV into Unreal Engine 4

This article was originally written by Ginku; Converted by jfaw

shrewd cobalt Apr 4, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Any Quest developers here? Having a weird issue

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Pushed for UE4 to Quest... suddenly my quest runs it in window mode?

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not full screen vr, its playing as if it were a movie

shrewd cobalt Apr 5, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Well, I've no idea 😅 Just restored UProject to a point that worked and recommited/built from there. So weird.. Fullscreen immserive was on both times but wouldnt launch in my broken project file

shrewd cobalt Apr 5, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Ooof. Now compiled with Vulkan on and i only get one functioning eyeball..

split burrow Apr 5, 2020, 2:50 AM

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Did you follow all the steps in here regarding Android versioning and Oculus manifests? https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/unreal/unreal-quick-start-guide-quest/

Oculus Quest and Go: Quick Start

Describes a quick start for Oculus Quest and Go development in Unreal.

uncut silo Apr 5, 2020, 12:14 PM

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Guyz

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How to make Scene Capture Component work as a normal camera but without VR?

shrewd cobalt Apr 5, 2020, 2:59 PM

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@split burrow thanks for sharing that. I had bene following a YT video, but this is a lot clearer!

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Fullscreen immserive was my issuee

split burrow Apr 5, 2020, 3:01 PM

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You're welcome! I'm glad that the Oculus documentation on the subject is fairly clear. I had to fight with it a little bit, so if you have any other questions, let me know

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Ah, I had a feeling it was that problem

real needle Apr 5, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Hello, I have been making maps for fun for Pavlov VR, I make darker maps, and made a bp flash light, works on my end, but no one esle can see it, other players can pick it up and i cant see the one they have , I have replicated all in the bp, new to this, any ideas, thank you.

shrewd cobalt Apr 5, 2020, 3:13 PM

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@split burrow biggest question: How do I profile this :X I've been using adb logcat -s VrApi but (and I am new to UE4's profiler...) I'm still 30 some FPS, so thinking I need to evaluate how many drawcalls are going on

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Do you have any recommendations for figuring out optimizations?

split burrow Apr 5, 2020, 3:26 PM

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That, I don't know. My apologies

shrewd cobalt Apr 5, 2020, 3:36 PM

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Np 😄

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Do you play a lot with Quest/UE4?

keen prawn Apr 5, 2020, 3:54 PM

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any1 know how to delete sequencer keyframes in VR editor, it tries to delete the object from the scene

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those keymesh things dont exist in normal sequencer

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https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Yrt71OsdqKP999LHV5MWX8UvynKu8ZgJ

Google Drive

2020.04.03-11.58.mp4

split burrow Apr 5, 2020, 5:10 PM

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@shrewd cobalt I am using Quest/UE4 for class right now and we all had to fight with the setup process for a little while. I'm not super in-depth in the actual engine yet, but I'm familiar with the setup process

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Right now, I just eyeball the performance

shrewd cobalt Apr 5, 2020, 5:12 PM

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I have a feeling we all do that haha

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@split burrow as soooon as i make an APK, do yo uwant one

split burrow Apr 5, 2020, 5:12 PM

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I actually don't have access to a Quest right now (global pandemic means I am in exile from campus) so I'm afraid not

shrewd cobalt Apr 5, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Nooooooooooooooooooooo

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You couldnt "borrow it" for research purposes 😄

split burrow Apr 5, 2020, 5:13 PM

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No I am physically distant from the university

shrewd cobalt Apr 5, 2020, 5:53 PM

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I hear ya. I hope you're able to stay safe 🙂

jade bronze Apr 5, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Hey guys, I'm developing in UE4. I'm using Oculus Quest.
Building (packaging) for Quest is not a problem.
But how can I package/build for Rift S?

I would like to package my game for Rift S and play my game with Quest using Oculus link. What steps should I do?
I've packaged my project for Windows (64-bit) and when I run it nothing happens in VR headset.

jade bronze Apr 5, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Solution found:
My Quest device wasn't being turned on. Stereo on command solves the problem.

covert ferry Apr 5, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Has anyone here worked with or made a QTE in VR that could give me some tips ?

I'm looking to make one that requires you to put your hands in set locations I to play the success animation (it's for a sports app I am working on)

I would be grateful for any advice!

rocky latch Apr 6, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Hey guys, anyone having trouble with Skylight on VR?

maiden fable Apr 7, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Hi all, mb some one know how render scene in texture but only roughness ( use forward shading )

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in deferred i use postprocess material, get scene texture/roughness, but in forward...

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or other method how use only roughness in pp material on forward

mystic idol Apr 7, 2020, 3:09 PM

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Hi everyone, anyone know how to go about switching the eye that is rendered to the single eye spectator screen mode with an Oculus DK2? Someone pointed me to this post about the Vive which talks about editing the values in a .cpp file and recompiling some code, but i've no idea where to start finding the equivalent for oculus/ue4 or how/what i'd need to re-compile: https://forums.unrealengine.com/development-discussion/vr-ar-development/89298-problem-about-monitor-resolution-display-in-vive-vr-mode?117032-Problem-about-monitor-resolution-display-in-vive-vr-mode=

Unreal Engine Forums

All things Virtual and Augmented reality. Development resources, news, tutorials, and discussion inside.

nimble edge Apr 7, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Just started porting a project to Quest ... wish me luck.

steel crown Apr 7, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Hi all!, it seems that MSAA + UE4.24.3 is broken for PSVR at the moment, the image is filled with noise squares. 😦

sturdy canyon Apr 8, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Yeah I’ve had to switch psvr back to deferred

crude nova Apr 8, 2020, 2:47 AM

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hi all im new to discord does anyone have experiance with samsung odyssey in unreal engine

eternal inlet Apr 8, 2020, 12:45 PM

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For anyone that might need a VR-upperbody ik solution, @sonic lake and i made an implementation inspired by Mathias Parger, that is now freely available as a Plugin. It's still early days (version 1.01) and it may have issues. But in case you're interrested, give it a go, and send me a PM if you have issues or have suggestions. The Plugin is pre-built for ue4.23, but all c++ sourcecode is available and im using it for my own game, currently running 4.24, with no issues so far. https://bitbucket.org/jonas_molgaard/ubik https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxVIBGg59-I

Bitbucket

YouTube

Jonas Mølgaard

UBIK - Basic setup using the plugin

In this video i show how to setup a basic project using the plugin.
I also mention a current limitation regarding the skeleton the skeletal mesh must be rigged to.

Link to repository: https://bitbucket.org/jonas_molgaard/ubik/commits/branch/feature%2F4.23_Plugin

Feel free to...

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note, it's currently a 1:1 conversion of the BP version i made a tutorial series over, so no optimizations attempted yet. It's using an avg of 0.03ms to solve, so it should be fairly lightweight still. Any pullrequests are welcome if you want to participate in the project.

little scaffold Apr 8, 2020, 1:06 PM

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very nice job @eternal inlet and thank you for making this open source

cyan kayak Apr 8, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Any one know how to get AR plane mesh from UE4 ? Can draw a box but cant seem to create a mesh

full frost Apr 8, 2020, 3:11 PM

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@cyan kayak You looked at the HelloAR example?

cyan kayak Apr 8, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Yeah but thats no different, just draws a debug box

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No actual mesh

full frost Apr 8, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Doesn't hello ar create procedural meshes? Pretty sure it does

cyan kayak Apr 8, 2020, 3:34 PM

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Hmm ill take a look agian

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aaah right its a different app i had

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Okay cloning now

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thank you

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Yep got it, thank you

full frost Apr 8, 2020, 3:45 PM

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There's only one c++ class in it and think it does what you want

eternal inlet Apr 8, 2020, 10:17 PM

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hmm, ue4.24 question

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isn't this supposed to give me a non 0 value when i move my finger on the left thumbpad?

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📎 unknown.png

toxic oracle Apr 8, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Does anyone know if the quest supports an in-line microphone plugged in through the headphone jack?

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I can't find anything definitive on it on google

fickle sky Apr 8, 2020, 11:52 PM

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anyone here with experience in the VRE UE4 Plugin? I got a few questions regarding the snapgrip/snapslots. Like overall I have no clue how to create them and such. Some pointers would be great. Through pm maybe even better?

tired tree Apr 9, 2020, 12:04 AM

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@fickle sky will PM you, there is a tutorial for it on my website

shrewd cobalt Apr 9, 2020, 3:33 AM

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Is it me, or does switching to ES3.1 preview just seem to make the preview material orb and in generalighting dimmer?

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https://send.maketheory.com/viewer?File=a4160ee9-40bc-40eb-a5d7-4d697d3a806c.gif

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ES3.1 just seems dimmer.

fierce blaze Apr 9, 2020, 1:04 PM

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@jade bronze are you using quest + link to develop? I develop for oculus rift and vive, and I hope I can use quest + link to do that ... did you that before?

last knot Apr 9, 2020, 1:24 PM

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I have a video I need to chroma key on Quest. I already have the green screen areas in the video replaced with pure green (#00FF00). I can use Chroma_Key_Alpha to knock that part out, but only on Quest using Link. If I play the same code as a native app, it leaves most of the green and just masks out a thin border around the person. Is there some way of making Chroma_Key_Alpha work on Quest? I have already tried turning on "Use Full Precision" under Mobile.

lost kraken Apr 9, 2020, 3:18 PM

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I wonder how a system for VR that tells the person to extend their arm as far as possible, has them press a button when done, then models an in-game arm with a skeleton between the wrist and shoulder would work

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Or if it would work at all

mighty carbon Apr 9, 2020, 3:21 PM

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oooohhh https://www.roadtovr.com/starvr-one-launch-acer-starbreeze/

Road to VR

Ultra-wide FOV Headset StarVR One Now Available for Purchase

StarVR One, the ultra-wide field of view (FOV) VR headset, has traveled a long and winding path on its way to launch since it was first announced in late 2018 that developers and enterprise would be able to apply for hardware. However now the company has officially opened up s...

lost kraken Apr 9, 2020, 3:22 PM

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Bonus points if it could create limited ball/socket joints for the shoulder and wrist with a “hinge” for the elbow

honest temple Apr 9, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Does anybody know if pixel streaming is supported for Oculus quest?

sonic lake Apr 9, 2020, 3:56 PM

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@lost kraken scroll up few messages, check out what @eternal inlet has shared

lost kraken Apr 9, 2020, 4:17 PM

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I’ve never tried to make a VR game, so I’m not familiar with the blueprints. I just thought it’d be an interesting idea

mighty carbon Apr 9, 2020, 4:20 PM

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well, Blueprints are used to make any game, not just VR games @lost kraken

lost kraken Apr 9, 2020, 4:21 PM

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I’m aware. I just meant I wasn’t familiar with what Jonas made

sonic lake Apr 9, 2020, 6:26 PM

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@lost kraken you seemed to refer to some form of Inverse Kinematic in your message, this is why I referred you to UBIK

lost kraken Apr 9, 2020, 6:31 PM

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I somehow completely missed the video. I was looking at this, which definitely explains my confusion

📎 image0.png

sonic lake Apr 9, 2020, 7:23 PM

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@lost kraken yep, the UBIK video. 👍

opaque gorge Apr 9, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Hello I'm having some problems dealing with the trigger box in VR. I can get it to work perfectly in first-person third-person but for some reason I can't seem the figure it out on VR

sonic lake Apr 9, 2020, 7:32 PM

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@opaque gorge the VR Pawn (Motion Controller Pawn) from the standard VR template has no body so it cannot generate any overlap per se.

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What you can do is add a collision sphere to it, parent it to the VR Camera and make sure it can generate overlap events.

opaque gorge Apr 9, 2020, 7:35 PM

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@sonic lake
O_o
You have officially become my new favorite person on Discord

sonic lake Apr 9, 2020, 7:36 PM

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😅

opaque gorge Apr 9, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Sorry about that is not every day that somebody actually gets back to me so quickly and with an actual solution. I'm used to people getting back to me in at least six or seven hours

sonic lake Apr 9, 2020, 7:42 PM

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👍 you are welcome!

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Usually this community is pretty responsive and helpful.

nimble edge Apr 9, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Working on optimizing for Quest : is it better to have a static mesh with ~6 material instances (all the same base material) or a single material using a texture to drive the colors?

fickle sedge Apr 9, 2020, 7:59 PM

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@nimble edge It's a close call. Probably the latter? If it's being applied in your project at a large scale, it's probably worth profiling.

nimble edge Apr 9, 2020, 7:59 PM

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And I recognize I'm totally ignorant in this - so my question might not even make sense.

jade bronze Apr 9, 2020, 7:59 PM

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@jade bronze are you using quest + link to develop? I develop for oculus rift and vive, and I hope I can use quest + link to do that ... did you that before?
@fierce blaze Yes, I'm using Quest with Link. You can develop for Rift S just fine because for Rift (S) and Vive you are building for Windows 10 and you don't need to have the device AFAIK.

fickle sedge Apr 9, 2020, 8:01 PM

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@nimble edge the built-in profiling tools for UE4 are a good palcce to start; for graphics analysis, my go-to is Intel GPA

sonic lake Apr 9, 2020, 8:02 PM

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@nimble edge the latter as it will be just 1 draw call. Materials instances cost anyway 1 draw call each.

nimble edge Apr 9, 2020, 11:29 PM

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Do I need to set up all the distribution signing settings in the Android Tab within Project Settings to sideload an App onto the Quest or is that just for going through a store?

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I can't get the build to complete because I'm getting an error that the distribution settings aren't set, but I have it selected as a Development build. I didn't think that would be necessary for a Dev build?

real eagle Apr 10, 2020, 7:54 AM

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Hi , I am looking into adding a 360 video in my VR scene?

sturdy timber Apr 10, 2020, 8:48 AM

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Hi everyone, I seem to have a strange bug: I created a debug pawn to test my project without VR. It's working fine in PIE as long as I'm Offline or Listen Server. But when I PIE as client with dedicated server, all i see in editor is a blackscreen.
I know the correct map is launched as I hear the sounds, and if I do the same (client + dedicated server) with VR Preview, it's working. What is not working is simple play in editor without VR in dedicated server and editor as client mode.

I'm using Oculus version of the engine, 4.23 branch. Does anybody have an idea of what could be going on?

sturdy timber Apr 10, 2020, 9:04 AM

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mmm seems to work if I play as client standalone

sturdy timber Apr 10, 2020, 9:26 AM

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however it will break elsewhere, the only way to make it work is to start standalone editor and direct connect to the server with command line argument. Starting standalone and then "open xxx" won't work it will freeze the game because ovr will kind of crash

vagrant sky Apr 10, 2020, 12:10 PM

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Hi there,

So I'm experiencing this weird issue. I'm trying to port an android AR app I made in UE4 to iOS. Works perfectly on Android, but causes this issue on iOS.

Assertion failed: Dimension <= GMaxTextureDimensions [File:/Users/build/Build/++UE4/Sync/Engine/Source/Runtime/Apple/MetalRHI/Private/MetalVertexBuffer.cpp] [Line: 171]

Note: The max dimension my textures have is 2048x2048.

Any kind of help would be appreciated.

nimble edge Apr 10, 2020, 7:07 PM

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I got my quest app running at frame rate for the Quest (thanks for the help!) - but now I'm running in to packaging issues. I'm not submitting to Oculus or anything, just sideloading. Anyone willing to help me out with this? First issue: Distribution Signing, I can't seem to bypass this by going with a Development build, so I made a storekey file and everything, and that's fine, but now there's a com.oculus.svclib error.

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I don't know what that is, or where to start poking at it.

fickle sedge Apr 10, 2020, 7:11 PM

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@nimble edge - From Max, at my studio: 'It looks like the generated gradle project is not correctly set up with a reference to some Oculus Java library that's required by the Oculus plugin. Probably something wrong with their Oculus plugin installation, or their android tool setup. Are they on the latest version of UE4 and the Oculus plugin? Might be worth trying a clean build.'

nimble edge Apr 10, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Camille, you are a life saver. I'll try updating everything and see what happens.

fickle sedge Apr 10, 2020, 7:15 PM

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@nimble edge - Also from Max: 'If they're brave enough to build the engine from source, Oculus' fork of UE4 on GitHub is the most reliable version of UE4 for Oculus Quest builds.'

nimble edge Apr 10, 2020, 7:15 PM

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I'm a designer/prototyper that got thrown into shipping something and I have water way over my head in some areas!

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Sure, I can try that. I've built from source before.

fickle sedge Apr 10, 2020, 7:16 PM

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@nimble edge - Cool! Best of luck. Let us know how it goes!

nimble edge Apr 10, 2020, 7:17 PM

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@fickle sedge - I will! Thank you! When this is done I'll need somewhere to send the Slurpees or something.

hard relic Apr 10, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Hi, I'm so stuck that i need to beg an answer here. My export to Oculus Quest from Unreal 4.24 is working fine. But i need to install that apk to a Quest without Unreal. I'm using ADB for that like that: adb install MyGame.apk

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This install correctly (my Game in in unknow sources) but i'm not able to launch it. I have a never ending 3 loading dots.

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Any idea about what is wrong with my steps?

fickle sedge Apr 11, 2020, 12:11 AM

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@hard relic Max, from my studio says: 'They should do a packaged game for android, which comes with a batch file. If they read it, they can see that it does more than just install the apk - it also puts an obb file on the device.
...Alternatively, they could change a setting (doesn't remember exactly which) in UE4 that lets you have a single file - which puts everything into an apk (without needing the obb as well), which they can then use adb to install like they're trying to.'

nimble edge Apr 11, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Doesn't Android/Quest have a size limit on the APK though?

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This blog post has how to install both the APK and .OBB through ADB

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https://toddkleinhans.wordpress.com/2019/12/30/building-and-deploying-projects-in-unreal-engine-to-the-oculus-quest/

Todd Kleinhans

toddkleinhans

Building and Deploying Projects in Unreal Engine to the Oculus Quest

Background Over the years I have successfully deployed my own Unreal Engine projects to: GearVR, Oculus Go, and Oculus Quest. But it wasn’t always easy or straightforward. “Official&#82…

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@hard relic

eternal inlet Apr 11, 2020, 12:26 PM

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in ue4.24.3, with spectator cam, does anyone know what's the cause of all this reallocates. It results in shit-performance obviously - only happends in packaged

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[2020.04.11-12.25.04:563][ 24]LogRenderer: Reallocating scene render targets to support 3704x2056 Format 10 NumSamples 1 (Frame:25).

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blan project with just this:

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inside a char

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and rendertarget defined like this

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eternal inlet Apr 11, 2020, 1:00 PM

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Fix:

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covert ferry Apr 11, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Why does it take so long to reset level when I make a widget and use it to reset in VR ?

the level isnt big or complex, it can take around 30 seconds of wierd glitchy screen before reopening the level.

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the level is just the motion controller map of the basic vr blueprints

sonic lake Apr 11, 2020, 4:35 PM

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@covert ferry indeed, that is not normal. Did you try to disable stereo, then reopen the level, then enable stereo again

covert ferry Apr 11, 2020, 4:38 PM

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@sonic lake I havent, im very new to this so i havent learned about that function yet.
would that possibly fix it so I can reset the level and continue without having to take the headset off at all ?

sonic lake Apr 11, 2020, 4:46 PM

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@covert ferry it is a possible solution. For the moment I am just trying to guide you through understanding where the issue could be.

covert ferry Apr 11, 2020, 4:50 PM

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@sonic lake Im guessing Ill find that option in project settings ? thank you

dusky moon Apr 11, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Not VR, but has any1 else noticed the update of substance plugin now asks you to recompile all the substance shaders first time you open your project ? it's now 30 mins 100% CPU load and I'm not sure whats goin on lol

sonic lake Apr 11, 2020, 6:05 PM

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@covert ferry you can use Enable HMD with the stereo option unchecked, then after the level has reloaded, call again Emable HMD with the stereo option checked

hard relic Apr 11, 2020, 9:46 PM

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@fickle sedge @nimble edge Thank You. Sorry. I was doing wrong. Uploading to the Quest from the Binaries folder. Now i am packaging the right way. And it works.

gaunt pumice Apr 12, 2020, 2:47 AM

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is it possible to use SSR (screen space reflections) with the oculus quest or is it just reflection probes?

unique berry Apr 12, 2020, 5:45 AM

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Is there a way of scaling the VR player at runtime? With the Unity Steam VR plugin, you'd just scale the whole chaperone play volume and everything would scale appropriately. Everything I'm reading about in Unreal points to using the Set World to Meters Scale node and setting your new scale, but the controllers and camera don't scale appropriately so that they aren't tracking correctly with the view, and the IPD scale doesn't seem like it changes so everything still feels the same scale, just that the camera has moved position

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Every search I've done online leads me to a bunch of unanswered Unreal Answers threads or Set World to Meters Scale answers that don't seem like they are working as intended

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I'm using Unreal 4.24.3

chilly pasture Apr 12, 2020, 8:58 AM

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Hey Guys, I am working on a project for Oculus Rift, I am having this problem where , i Can see Oculus Menu UI inside My Game , and it so much laggy, While one of the other project which is made for VR as well , is working fine.

idle meteor Apr 12, 2020, 2:41 PM

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Hi, i am working on an app in which you need to place buildings on the desk, i want to be able to scale them rotate them and all of that. UE VR editor can already do those things and i like how they work, is there a way i can use that in my game and not in editor?

unique berry Apr 12, 2020, 2:42 PM

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You'd have to rebuild those interactions for your project

idle meteor Apr 12, 2020, 2:43 PM

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So, there is no quick way of doing that? I am new to unreal and completly new to VR, but i have it as a school assignment ... So i kind of need to do that. 😄

unique berry Apr 12, 2020, 3:56 PM

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No I don't think there's a quick way of doing it, editor stuff is separate from in game

tired tree Apr 12, 2020, 3:56 PM

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The vr editor mode can be referenced for it, but it's all c++

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There are also plugins that have that functionality, though likely not as easy as you are looking for

idle meteor Apr 12, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Can you link me to those plugins and to that c++ referencing, would like to read about it.

long comet Apr 12, 2020, 4:02 PM

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hey guys, im trying to load the default VR template and launch it with rift S but it doesn't work, i dont see anything in the HMD (just three dots, like if it is loading something forever) I used to work with vive time ago and no problems, but now, don't know what's happening...

fickle sky Apr 12, 2020, 4:07 PM

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have you tried starting it in vr preview mode?

long comet Apr 12, 2020, 4:09 PM

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yeah, and i just get a black screen with three dots in the center

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do i have to install extra software or something?

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dind't see anything in google or youtube...

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the led in the HMD remains orange...

fickle sky Apr 12, 2020, 4:20 PM

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check in plugins if oculus is installed. it should be but better check. right?
also the hmd should work regardless of running ue4 or not. when you put it on it should throw you in your oculus hub.

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check in your oculus settings if your rift s is properly set up

long comet Apr 12, 2020, 4:22 PM

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i play every day with my rift, what could be wrong? when I click perview in VR it lauches the oculus software, but nothing... thanks man

fickle sky Apr 12, 2020, 4:24 PM

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you wrote about the HMD led remaining orange. that doesn't sound like an ue4 issue

long comet Apr 12, 2020, 4:25 PM

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it's odd because i have the ue4 app running in the oculus soft...

fickle sky Apr 12, 2020, 4:27 PM

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i just tried it. it doesn't run with ther "selected viewport" for play but "VR Preview"

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also you could go into maps and try the motion controllermap?

long comet Apr 12, 2020, 4:27 PM

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yeah, im in that map, and i run it thru VR preview option...

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doesnt render anything...

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I have just downloaded the engine and use a fresh vr template

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(though i have been using blueprints for a year with vive)

fickle sky Apr 12, 2020, 4:30 PM

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I didn't download the engine new but I just downloaded the template. switching to vr preview worked.
I would recommend checking why the led is orange. maybe oculus is not allowing a dev connection and you need to set it?

long comet Apr 12, 2020, 4:31 PM

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sounds good

fickle sky Apr 12, 2020, 4:31 PM

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I did allow in my oculus settings in"general" to allow "unknown sources"

long comet Apr 12, 2020, 4:31 PM

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i have that checked

fickle sky Apr 12, 2020, 4:31 PM

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but that was for steamvr

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I didn't do anything else. try troubleshooting it with the oculus docs. they have an extensive doc for unreal on their page

long comet Apr 12, 2020, 4:32 PM

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i was there minutes ago, will pay more attention, thanks man for your time

fickle sky Apr 12, 2020, 4:33 PM

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good luck!

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also. maybe for the peace of mind. maybe try a restart. 😄

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or also reconnecting your rift s completely

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when I first connected oculus with unreal. I somehow constantly lost connection to my hmd. It needed some unplugging and restarts till it worked. not sure what happened there

long comet Apr 12, 2020, 4:36 PM

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omg, i restarted the service and now is working...

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thanks man, the most obvius solution...

fickle sky Apr 12, 2020, 5:04 PM

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the classic 😄

unique berry Apr 12, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Does anyone know of a fix or workaround for the set world to meters scale node not working properly?

fierce blaze Apr 13, 2020, 12:31 PM

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@fierce blaze Yes, I'm using Quest with Link. You can develop for Rift S just fine because for Rift (S) and Vive you are building for Windows 10 and you don't need to have the device AFAIK.
@jade bronze thanks!

bright basalt Apr 13, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Hello I'm new to vr development and I was wondering how to set up motion controls, the only tutorials I can find are deprecated due to the 4.24 update.

fickle sky Apr 13, 2020, 3:15 PM

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@bright basalt create a project and select the VR template and look at the character blueprint. That is how most done it.
I can also recommend go into the VR section of the unreal board. There you have quite some "VR Template expanded" and such. Just look how they do stuff.

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When you press play in the editor, select VR Preview. The template consists of 3 maps. 1 start and 2 depending what you want. the starter explains what the other 2 maps do

steel crown Apr 13, 2020, 3:37 PM

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@bright basalt you may also want to do this:
go to project settings / Rendering and turn on Forward Shading (this is forward rendering). and use MSAA as a Antialising method. To get a sharp render on VR (just be aware that MSAA on PlaystationVR is currently broken since 4.23 and it seems that we are not going to have a fix anytime soon).

bright basalt Apr 13, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Thank you guys

languid night Apr 13, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Hey guys, do any of you have any ideas how to display inventory in a VR game?
I'm not asking about technicals, but how something would look.

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I'm making a game where the player needs to collect clues

split burrow Apr 13, 2020, 11:35 PM

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I know a lot of games will do something like a wristwatch-type device. That or just pop up a screen within arms-reach

worthy python Apr 14, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Hi, can anyone else confirm that having Splash Screens auto enabled in the OculusVR plugin causes OpenLevel to hang in 4.24?

languid night Apr 14, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Yeah, wrist watches seem to be where a lot of people go with inventory, but I was thinking if there's a more fluid aproach to inventory

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Like I dunno, "realistic"?

worthy python Apr 14, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Personally I think my favourite inventory is just "attach to the body", but for something like clues that might not be appropriate

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If the clues are small I can imagine them being placed in a rucksack on the player's body

languid night Apr 14, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Would it be like a real rucksack?

gaunt pumice Apr 14, 2020, 12:17 PM

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Hey Folks, a client asked me for an option to control his VR-App with second input device (simple UI to switch products) while his customers are wearing the HMD.. any ideas how approach this?

blissful bear Apr 14, 2020, 12:37 PM

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This might be suitable to implement what your client wants.
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/vr-spectator-control-window

VR Spectator Control Window by MarcoAlting in Code Plugins - UE4 Ma...

Want to be able to use Unreal Engine UMG together with the spectator view in your VR apps? You can now do so with our Spectator Control Window plugin!

bright basalt Apr 14, 2020, 2:18 PM

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I have a question, is it possible for me to import most of the assets ive done so far to the virtual reality template? I have gotten a decent amount of work done and would prefer not to work from scratch

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Im also only wanting sliding locomotion and all I see in the vr template is teleporting

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this includes materials and blueprints

cosmic shoal Apr 14, 2020, 3:09 PM

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@bright basalt make a project with a VR template, go back to your regular project, select stuff and right mouse button menu look for "Migrate"

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and select the content directoy of your VR project

alpine kiln Apr 14, 2020, 3:23 PM

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I was able to get one of my PC-VR projects working on the Quest. I have to say that you have to use level streaming to get the needed frame rate. Also LOD's on models is a must.

bright basalt Apr 14, 2020, 3:25 PM

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thanks

carmine yoke Apr 14, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Has anyone developed for the Pico Neo 2 headset at all? Would be very keen to talk if you have, thanks

alpine kiln Apr 14, 2020, 3:52 PM

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I've never heard about it. Sounds interesting. Is it Android based?

carmine yoke Apr 14, 2020, 3:52 PM

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Yeah its basically the same as the Quest but with none of the Facebook infrustructure

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its acually got a better screen, better processor

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Lighter too

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Its pretty much only useful for business cases though

alpine kiln Apr 14, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Then dev should not be to different. I have no integration in my current project, and may not ever add it. Just make it available via SideQuest.

carmine yoke Apr 14, 2020, 4:13 PM

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I'm more interested in the capabilities and drawbacks that people have noticed. I'm currently in the process of packaging for it, so hopefully should be fine!

gaunt pumice Apr 14, 2020, 5:24 PM

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@blissful bear thx, this looks pretty good but it looks like its just designed for windows...
I am currently testing the web remote control - works so far but only in the editor, not during runtime...

hallow knoll Apr 14, 2020, 5:29 PM

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@carmine yoke Please do share your results

jade bronze Apr 14, 2020, 5:34 PM

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I'm developing using Oculus Quest (Oculus Touch Controllers).
How can I assign an event to (L) Menu Button on Oculus Touch Controller?
I can go to Project settings Tab -> Input and create Action Event, but it does nothing once used.
The same goes for (R) System Button but remapping the system button would be kinda silly since it is essential to projects functionality.
So, my question is:
How can I remap (L) Menu Button for Oculus Touch? Is it possible at all? I would like to use it for Options/settings button.

carmine yoke Apr 14, 2020, 5:47 PM

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@hallow knoll will do

hallow knoll Apr 14, 2020, 5:48 PM

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@jade bronze Prior to the OpenXR input refactor I believe it was "Gamepad Special Left"

jade bronze Apr 14, 2020, 6:08 PM

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@jade bronze Prior to the OpenXR input refactor I believe it was "Gamepad Special Left"
@hallow knoll Thanks for your answer. This works!
I forgot to mention that I'm using 4.24 version. I've just tested it out and it works.
For others looking for similar thing, I also want to mention that I'm using Oculus Quest in Rift S mode (Oculus Link cable mode)

slender fjord Apr 14, 2020, 8:25 PM

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hi everyone, any chance to create a BP for turn on/off light in oculus quest?

last knot Apr 14, 2020, 8:31 PM

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okay, so i'm running into Yet Another Weird Quest Problem. I mentioned it before but I have better examples of it. I have a material that does this:

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(this is just a dumbed down version of something else i was doing, just to show the issue)

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you can see the test pattern image i fed it. I did this two ways. first, i have that test pattern image. second, i have a movie i made that's just that test pattern for 3 seconds. i created a material for each of those and applied it to two different planes. then i put the original full color image on a third plane just for reference.

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here's what it looks like running natively on the quest:

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And here's what it looks like if i run it on the PC instead:

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I don't understand why the movie texture version (top left) is replacing the blue square with black on the Quest version. it doesn't do that with the image texture, and it doesn't do that with the exact same app run on the PC

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i feel like i must be hitting some weird mobile thing, like when I had to turn on Use Full Precision to avoid some weirdness.

quiet vector Apr 15, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Does anyone know of any VR C++ tutorials? I know how to program but I find blueprints incredibly difficult to read. I just want to get head and hand tracking (Oculus Touch) working, everything else after that like movement I know how to do.

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Specifically I'm trying to set up something like Echo VR, and found a nice blueprint sample that does half of what I need and would be a good reference to work from, but even though I can understand some of what the blueprints do (thrusters, etc) I don't see any obvious way to just make a C++ class with head and hand/touch tracking.

keen prawn Apr 15, 2020, 7:11 AM

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@quiet vector the VReditorpawn is full C++ its on editor time and has lots of stuff u wont need for gameplay but it has C++ tracking UI and all sorts of stuff

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also the default VR template has the tracking done in C++

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I think

sonic lake Apr 15, 2020, 8:08 AM

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@quiet vector a couple of people have ported the original BP VR Template to C++ and made it available to others. For example: https://github.com/Sombusta/UE4_VRTemplate_Cpp

GitHub

Sombusta/UE4_VRTemplate_Cpp

Unreal Engine 4 VR Template Porting Full C++ Project. - Sombusta/UE4_VRTemplate_Cpp

quiet vector Apr 15, 2020, 2:33 PM

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oh awesome, thanks guys!

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I know how to do the gameplay stuff so once I figure out the c++ VR "hello world" tracking the rest is straightforward. Making it work multiplayer with IK body dedicated server hit detection is a hurdle, perhaps insurmountable, but at least the gameplay portions are easy 🙂

dusky moon Apr 15, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Wow 4.25 preview 7 ! I think we're going to have a stable ue4 😛

sturdy canyon Apr 15, 2020, 3:27 PM

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I think they were planning to release an unstable 4.25 at GDC, but now they’re taking their time

dusky moon Apr 15, 2020, 3:28 PM

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haha Thanks to the pandemic we're getting a good one

sonic lake Apr 15, 2020, 3:28 PM

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Wow 4.25 preview 7 ! I think we're going to have a stable ue4 😛
@dusky moon Hallelujah!

grand zealot Apr 15, 2020, 5:34 PM

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https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

last knot Apr 16, 2020, 2:39 PM

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For the IF problem I posted earlier that only bugs on the Oculus Quest, I've posted an answerhub if anyone is interested or wants to vote on it: https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/954835/why-does-this-if-node-not-work-on-oculus-quest.html

elfin edge Apr 16, 2020, 3:12 PM

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It's probably got something to do with the video colourspace still being YUV in the texture - that would be my guess @last knot . You could try replacing the 'and' with a minus 0.99 and a ceil to get the same effect I think or try a dot product if you are doing chromakey

last knot Apr 16, 2020, 3:18 PM

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@elfin edge you think that'd be a difference between Quest/mobile and PC VR? (using the same mp4 file on both)

elfin edge Apr 16, 2020, 3:22 PM

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It depends on how they handle it. The video is likely in YUV space not RGB. So you can either convert it on the CPU to rgb or leave it as YUV and convert on the gpu (which should be faster).

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At any rate, the data should be RGB when you get to it in the shader.

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But it's possible PC and Quest use a different approach and have different values

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It looks like you are trying to get 0.99 out of the blue channel and YUV to RGB isn't an exact conversion (to my knowledge)

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I'd use a dot product of the blue vector and as a bonus you have a threshold value

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So alpha blending

last knot Apr 16, 2020, 3:48 PM

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I just tried it at 0.5 instead of 0.99, with the same results

last knot Apr 16, 2020, 4:56 PM

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so it seems somewhat of a quirk. I'll also note that I used the Chroma_Key_Alpha node originally, and ALSO had it work on PC VR but fail on the Quest, with the same video and code

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I've tried this a handful of completely different ways so far, and they always wind up with no getting correct results on the Quest. perhaps I'll try it a handful + 1 and go with the dot product. I suspect it will fail as well, though

last knot Apr 16, 2020, 5:18 PM

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I switched it around to use the dot product. Still have the same issue. Of course, I could be using it differently than you intended. Feel free to elaborate.

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And to clarify, I'm knocking out the green. The blue is accidentally coming along for the ride on the Quest (but not PC VR).

hard relic Apr 16, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Hi, anybody know, how to remove gravity of the teleporter? i would like a straight line. Can't find the nodes.

hard relic Apr 16, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Find it: OverRide Gravity Z = 1.0

dusky moon Apr 16, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Any1 tried this inside VR ?
I'm wondering how it performs:
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/fluidninja-vfx-tools

FluidNinja VFX Tools by Andras Ketzer in Visual Effects - UE4 Marke...

Bake real-time fluid simulation to flipbooks, flowmaps, materials and vector fields. Create presets. Generate fire, smoke, and fluids for character and environment effects. All inside Unreal Editor.

quiet vector Apr 16, 2020, 8:49 PM

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I still haven't even figured out how to get HMD to work in C++ so.... next week I'll check that out hehe

sonic lake Apr 17, 2020, 8:01 AM

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@quiet vector I suggested you to look into the ported VR template. Didn't that help?

idle meteor Apr 17, 2020, 12:30 PM

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Hi, i am working on a VR game and i want it to have some features from VR editor that is build in, is there somebody who can help me to get them? I opened up UE4 only like a week ago, but i really need it done due to my school project. (tag me or dm me)

quiet vector Apr 17, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Yeah I'm going through those still marco, yesterday I was frustrated with the code side of things so I decided to learn how to prototype a map

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figured out how to export a model with texture assignments from fusion 360 to unreal which is great, uv mappings are all borked but it's good enough for now

alpine kiln Apr 17, 2020, 4:11 PM

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Question for folks. Has anyone been able to get an .mp4 video file to play on the Quest? Our app will play it fine on PC, Vive, Rift, but not on the Quest.

last knot Apr 17, 2020, 5:40 PM

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@alpine kiln yes, many times. How are you trying to play it?

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Also, have you tried other mp4s, just in case there's something particular about that one?

alpine kiln Apr 17, 2020, 5:47 PM

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@last knot , I have tried playing it, but still doesn't play on Quest. I will try another file.

last knot Apr 17, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Dumb question, but are you sure the movie is being copied over to the Quest?

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This was something that took me a bit to grok in UE4, since I'm new to it. If it wasn't in the Content/Movies directory, it wouldn't copy over

alpine kiln Apr 17, 2020, 5:52 PM

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I did manually move the file to the directory prior to the import just in case. I did have a second video file that was a wmv that was listing first in the media player, so that may be the issue. I just deleted it, and will be testing it shortly.

torn crescent Apr 18, 2020, 9:51 AM

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general question: is there a recognised way of describing VR for mobile and VR for a headset? That's not disparaging to VR on a mobile like 'proper VR' vs 'Crappy phone version'

cosmic shoal Apr 18, 2020, 11:55 AM

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Well I think the DOF (degrees of freedom, as in rotation in 3 axis, movement in 3 axis) is what separates them. Phone VR is 3DOF and the more advanced headsets are 6DOF

long comet Apr 18, 2020, 3:22 PM

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hi guys, one question, im implementing snap turn and so far it wors, but it rotates over VROrigin (center of playspace) so if i move 2 meters away it keeps rotating with that center instead of my current location... any help?

tribal spear Apr 18, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Hi Guys, i'm trying to work in vr mode. but the menu's are all dark. Am i the only one with that issue?
working in version 4.24 and 4.25 preview 7. It's like the sun is to bright and the camera does not adjust for the dark menu's.

alpine kiln Apr 19, 2020, 2:06 AM

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@last knot Thanks for the advise. I actually made a few changes and we now have video working!

feral ember Apr 19, 2020, 3:00 AM

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has anyone used vr mode with oculus quest? just curious if it works well

sonic lake Apr 19, 2020, 7:11 AM

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@alpine kiln Interesting. So what was the issue at the end?

covert ferry Apr 19, 2020, 12:45 PM

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Is it possible to create make the unreal mannequin "posable" using your vr hands ?
if so, what would it entail ?
Like you actually had the unreal mannequin in front of you and you could put it into all kinds of actions poses.

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@feral ember I use VR mode with the quest to test out my levels and I think it is brilliant.
not having to think about the sensors is a game changer.
The quest also has a feature now where you can double tap the side of the headset to go into and back out of the camera pass through mode (I use this a lot ).

sonic lake Apr 19, 2020, 1:04 PM

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@covert ferry have a look at the UBIK plugin created by @eternal inlet and me. It is free/open source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxVIBGg59-I

YouTube

Jonas Mølgaard

UBIK - Basic setup using the plugin (UE4.23)

In this video i show how to setup a basic project using the plugin.
I also mention a current limitation regarding the skeleton the skeletal mesh must be rigged to.

Link to repository: https://bitbucket.org/jonas_molgaard/ubik/commits/branch/feature%2F4.23_Plugin

Feel free to...

▶ Play video

covert ferry Apr 19, 2020, 1:15 PM

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ah @sonic lake that looks brilliant and I think I will bookmark it because I think I do have use for it!

I don't think i was clear enough with what I was asking though.
I was hoping to find a way to have a mannequin in the scene as an object that you can manipulate into poses (like you would a figurine in real life).
My hope is I can use it to demonstrate various positions an athlete needs to get into in a sports application.

sonic lake Apr 19, 2020, 1:44 PM

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@covert ferry ah ok, since you posted it in #virtual-reality I thought it was related. You want to pose it using VR interaction or what?

covert ferry Apr 19, 2020, 1:50 PM

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@sonic lake yes that's right
I want to use my VR hands (oculus touch controllers)
to pose the unreal mannequin as if it were an object in front of me (a life size action figure if you will)

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So if I lifted its arm up and stepped back it would stay in that position, this way I could make it look like it is throwing a punch/ kick or spinning like a ballerina etc...

sonic lake Apr 19, 2020, 2:03 PM

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@covert ferry I am not aware of any ready-made solution to do that. You could definitely do it using effectors linked to the different body parts (head, hands, etc,) and a bit of Inverse Kinematic. Or replicating the functionalities of the skeletal mesh editor in VR. Interesting idea.

covert ferry Apr 19, 2020, 2:08 PM

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@sonic lake thank you, I will have to look up those things to see if it is something I am capable of putting together with my limited knowledge.

sonic lake Apr 19, 2020, 2:10 PM

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@covert ferry breaking it down into pieces:

Raytrace from the controller to the skeleton
Identify the bone closest to the hit - provide a visual clue of the bone you are about to manipulate
Set its rotation while holding a button (it's a kinematic chain so you cannot set locations directly) - maybe you need to cycle between axis or use the MC as rotation proxy
repeat

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Not sure if you have all the necessary functions in BP. It may require a bit of C++.

covert ferry Apr 19, 2020, 2:12 PM

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@sonic lake Very cool of you to lay it out for me like that! makes it much easier to manage, thank you!

tired tree Apr 19, 2020, 3:24 PM

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You could also do it by physically simulating the bone chain and snap shotting the pose on release

covert ferry Apr 19, 2020, 3:40 PM

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that sounds great too @tired tree what would that entail ?

tired tree Apr 19, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Physics constraint from the hand to the bone you are manipulating

nocturne sundial Apr 19, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Hi, can folk help me? THis isn't necessarily a unreal engine VR question but my vive has been not working properly and I'd appreciate it if folk can help me troubleshoot

real walrus Apr 19, 2020, 7:12 PM

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@nocturne sundial what's the issue

nocturne sundial Apr 19, 2020, 7:13 PM

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when i try and use my vive, it keeps going "searching"

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and whenever it does pick up one of the base stations it flashes blue again

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📎 steamvrlog_1904191.txt

tribal spear Apr 19, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Hi Guys, i'm trying to work in vr mode. but the menu's are all dark. Am i the only one with that issue?
working in version 4.24 and 4.25 preview 7. It's like the sun is to bright and the camera does not adjust for the dark menu's.

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oke, figured it out. the directional light on the sunsky was cranked op all the way to 75000 lux. if you bring that down it wil show you the menu's.

quiet vector Apr 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Does anyone know why the headset camera would be aimed almost straight up and offset slightly to the side? In this view my headset is on BACKWARDS on my real head in order to have the headset see my player head from above.

📎 vrposition.jpg

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I've been looking at tutorials, source, and videos all week and still can't quite get things set up so that my VR player has a body where the camera is in his head.

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I'm trying to set up something like Echo VR, where the player character 'center' is their waist or chest, their head is the headset with neck and upper body having IK, their controllers become the hands with arms having IK, and their feet are floaty IK.

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I've tried different combinations of object/camera/skeleton/controller hierarchy, in c++ and in blueprint and nothing seems to put anything in the right spot

real needle Apr 19, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Anyone have any idea on how to make the camera be where the controller is.
I did this already, but for some reason vr isn't working in this unreal project.

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Am I missing anything?

eternal inlet Apr 20, 2020, 5:11 AM

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@real needle i think you need a motioncontroller component and then get the transform from that instead

sonic lake Apr 20, 2020, 10:10 AM

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@real needle Make also sure the camera is not Locked to the HMD (which is by default) and that you are Enabling stereo.

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@quiet vector looks like you are not resetting your Orientation and Position to start with.

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 1:52 PM

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Marco do you have an idea what the hierarcy should even be? I'm thinking I want the pawn 'root' to be their waist or one of the spine segments. Then the head/neck and hands/arms would be driven by headset and controllers and IK, so you could lean and your game body would follow, but if you walked out of your playspace center your body would not follow. Collision would be the pawn mesh collision, so if you put your arm through a wall your in-game arm would stop at the wall. This might require an 'intermediate' link object between the headset/controller and the head/hand of the pawn, almost like a "you want to be here but if you can't go there go as far as you can then stop" type of thing. Not sure on that.

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 2:18 PM

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I'm thinking more from general logic and game design experience though, so maybe UE4 would need to be set up differently due to how it's specific systems work

hard relic Apr 20, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Hi! May i ask if somebody have experience in Decals with Oculus Quest? Decals is displayed but there is a strange artefact inside them, like a pixelized digital pattern banding, that is moving with the helmet... I can see that into transparency aswell. It may be something due to translucency...

sonic lake Apr 20, 2020, 3:16 PM

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@quiet vector the functionalities you have described would take quite some effort to implement. Basically you are seeking for full room-scale support with smart collisions and physics. You may consider taking advantage of the VR Expansion Plugin, which already does most of that, and/or UBIK for the IK part.

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 3:18 PM

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I don't really want room scale at all, the plan is to limit it to sitting-scale evne if people try to use room-scale

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yeah I might try one of the plugins, I'm mostly worried that they handle the movement and I don't really want that

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so it's sgoing to be pulling out lots of stuff

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afk one moment, have other things to add/ask though...

sonic lake Apr 20, 2020, 3:26 PM

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@quiet vector for a purely sitting experience you can probably take an easier approach. You just need upper body IK with physics collisions.

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Actually there are two different school of thoughts regarding collisions in VR. One states that you should never take away from the player the possibility to know where their actual hands are, so you won't block them if they try to go through something "solid". According to the other it is ok to do so as long as you provide some kind of feedback/clue to recover from the situation. More recently I have seen many applications implementing phantom hands. The real hands are blocked by the collisions, but the phantom hands keep following the controllers.

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@quiet vector

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 4:34 PM

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sorry had real work... this would be along the lines of Echo VR where you wouldnt be able to go through objects but the feedback is good so it still feels correct

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basically I see different components to making this work

Basic headset and hand tracking
having visible head and hands for the player
have hand-based drag-yourself-around movement
attach head and hands to a body with IK, as described above for player 'root' and head/hand control with rest of body being IK
give the body collision
make this work over networking (possibly done individually for each stage)

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The biggest problem I have is that blueprints are overly complex and difficult to read compared to code (for somebody who is a programmer), but most of the tutorials or examples are blueprint based. Without already knowing how everything works it's difficult to translate the blueprints into code. Looking at code examples or plugins, many of them are tightly coupled to joystick or teleport movement, or blueprint focused, or set up in a way that is clearly incompatible with my goal (such as object hierarchy based on a collision cylinder). Finding a reference or base to work from has been incredibly difficult.

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This is pretty close and a decent reference but reading the pawn blueprint is really difficult https://forums.unrealengine.com/development-discussion/vr-ar-development/1354452-zero-g-hand-based-movement-locomotion-mechanics-similar-to-lone-echo-echo-vr-updated-1-23-19

Unreal Engine Forums

This is my attempt at recreating a similar Zero-G VR locomotion system to the one found in the Lone Echo/Echo VR games.

It allows you to grab onto walls, and push

sonic lake Apr 20, 2020, 4:47 PM

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@quiet vector as an experienced programmer you should have no problems reading through Blueprints, which are just visual code. A common misconception is that you can use Unreal Engine either with C++ or with Blueprints, but actually to be really proficient with it you need to know both. So it is rather a and.

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If that template has already what you need, you should definitely spend some time to understand how it works and later to port it to C++.

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Networking is a whole different subject. Again, the VR Expansion plugin has that fully covered, so you may want to look into it, even if just at source code level.

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I am trying to help you get productive as quickly as possible, but Unreal has a bit of learning curve we all had to go through.

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BTW, there is also a port of the standard VR template to C++ if you are interested.

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 4:50 PM

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yeah, my problem is I'm trying to skip a lot of that

sonic lake Apr 20, 2020, 4:51 PM

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which is understandable but not really recommended

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 4:55 PM

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do you how long do you think is a reasonable time to learn enough of the engine workings and VR integration to get some of that up and running? Perhaps without networking, or perhaps with networking but only simple collision cylinders and floating hands instead of a body with collision and IK?

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float hands and head with a floating sphere as a body might be an easier way to start, and would still let me test out the things that I'm really trying to test

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I've been frustrated with what seems like a pretty steep learning cliff just to get anything at all working, but I know once I get something working to a minimal degree the rest I'll be able to figure out, just not sure if the learning cliff is too steep to be worthwhile for what is essentially a hobby test of an idea for another game

real needle Apr 20, 2020, 5:00 PM

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@sonic lake Above you said for me to enable stereo I'm not sure what you mean by that.

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@quiet vector In my experience with unity, it is just best to learn it the slow way

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it can take many months to years

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focus on small projects, don't go too big

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 5:01 PM

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unity was suuuuper easy to set something like this up, like within a couple hours, but unity basically has no real networking solution which is kinda a big problem

real needle Apr 20, 2020, 5:02 PM

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There's a price to everything

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 5:03 PM

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yeah 😦 I should just pay somebody to set this up lol

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it would be less stressful

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I just want to work on the gameplay logic and weapons anyways

real needle Apr 20, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Good idea, specializing in one area is sometimes better too.

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@eternal inlet Like this?

📎 unknown.png

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I'm somewhat new to unreal so sorry for my inexperience. I'm not going to be using it after this blueprint is fixed though.

eternal inlet Apr 20, 2020, 5:10 PM

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The motion controller is what is beeing tracked

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It has a transform itself

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 5:10 PM

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aha it's Jonas, the latest video I'm trying to follow to learn this VR setup hehe

eternal inlet Apr 20, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Hehe hi there

real needle Apr 20, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Oh you're a youtuber that's cool, still don't know how to get the transform though lol.

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is there anyway I could hop in a voice chat for 10 min, just to fix this. It's for a greenscreen project, I just happen to not be very good at blueprints.

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or do you have any tutorials on your channel that go over this?

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at this point I'll even pay someone lol

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It'll take 4-10 minutes of your time though.

tired tree Apr 20, 2020, 5:29 PM

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@quiet vector you can literally reference my C++ replication for the controllers (the VRE plugin), and if you are going fully client authoritative then the rest is easy as far as movement goes. But you are asking for a fully realized movement system in multiplayer, and doing it smoothly takes some effort. Unity may have been easy to setup using frameworks (like it would be in ue4 so I think you are using double standards here).

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you don't use unity's native IK for your full body, you use final IK or something of the sort

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just like you "could" use ue4's FABRIK or CCDIK for it, but it would be far less than ideal over a third party solution

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 5:30 PM

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I've been looking at that also. I was planning on doing server-authoritative with client prediction to see how it feels.

eternal inlet Apr 20, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Im not at my pc atm but from your motioncontroller drag out and type getworldtransform

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 5:31 PM

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but I know that there might be too much resync and jitter and other problems

tired tree Apr 20, 2020, 5:31 PM

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no

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its fine if you have a robust setup

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your issue is going to be that it isn't easy to do

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also you can't rollback motion controllers or HMDs, you can just adjust roomspace to correct for movements

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characters already do everything you want to do, the issues is that characters weren't built around VR and there is no other networked equivalent in engine until they finish the seperated network prediction module (soonish).

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so they take a lot of work around setup if you want to use them

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if not, then you are rolling your own

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 5:33 PM

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characters have a lot of movement code and stuff though dont they?

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that's why I was basing off pawn or base pawn I think

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walking and anims and all that stuff are not needed since they would never be used, and a lot of the other pawn stuff is designed for 2d and/or vertical-only player orientation

tired tree Apr 20, 2020, 5:41 PM

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characters have movement "modes"

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you don't need to use them, but you can add new ones

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that make use of all of the already built in networking

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ie: I made a LowGrav movement mode with velocity retention fairly easily

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as for your component setup, put a scene component on your root capsule, center capsule is 0,0,0, so you want to move it down by half capsule height

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 5:43 PM

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what if there is no capsule?

tired tree Apr 20, 2020, 5:43 PM

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then its not a pawn

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 5:43 PM

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sure it is, but it's not a collision cylinder

tired tree Apr 20, 2020, 5:43 PM

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if no capsule then 0,0,0 is foot position

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 5:44 PM

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unless there is some different capsule thing

tired tree Apr 20, 2020, 5:50 PM

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oh sorry, pawn isn't capsule forced, forgot

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you can just add one though, it only requires a primitive component

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characters are default capsule

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it won't move with the HMD though

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 5:53 PM

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would it make sense to have:
root

capsule (larger than player, for overlap detection, not blocking collision)
skeleton mesh (for vis and blocking collision)

tired tree Apr 20, 2020, 5:53 PM

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so if basing on pawn you can have a scene root

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you'd have to write your own movement component though

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 5:53 PM

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but if I want the 'root' to be one of the waist or spine bones of the skeletal mesh, that confuses me then

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I'm going to have to write my own movement anyways

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that part is easy

tired tree Apr 20, 2020, 5:53 PM

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it wouldn't be a waist or spine bone

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it would be a primitive component

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you can make your mesh the root and move it, but you would have to run your collision code logic around a seperate collision body

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root component is the actors location in world

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 5:55 PM

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can I attach a skeletal mesh to the root via a certain bone? so I have my root component, then attach the skeletal mesh as a child, but use the waist bone for example as the attachment point?

tired tree Apr 20, 2020, 5:56 PM

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no

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not unless it is simulating

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you can move it so that the pelvis is at 0,0,0

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which is effectively the same thing

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 5:56 PM

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the idea being that moving your HMD will cause the mesh head to move, and the upper body to IK any leaning you do, but walking out of your play area wouldnt move your character at all

tired tree Apr 20, 2020, 5:57 PM

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...what?

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you are going for standing vr?

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 5:57 PM

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yeah, and you should be able to lean or look around for example, but walking around in real life shouldnt move your character more than your character model could lean or twist

tired tree Apr 20, 2020, 5:58 PM

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that won't change your camera perspective any

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you'd have to black out or handle it somehow

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 5:58 PM

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camera would have to be locked to the head

tired tree Apr 20, 2020, 5:58 PM

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camera doesn't "lock" in ue4 like that

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you will have to override its behavior

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 5:58 PM

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so if you step to the left 6 feet, your character model would lean as far as it could to the left then your camera would stop

tired tree Apr 20, 2020, 5:58 PM

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when tracking to an HMD

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you can clamp the camera in bounds though

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I do it for my seated mode

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 5:59 PM

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camera bounds would basically be the character mesh IK limits

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or generally speaking, the amount you could lean or twist while your feet are planted in real life

tired tree Apr 20, 2020, 5:59 PM

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and if they crouch?....

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or jump?

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 6:00 PM

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you'd go to the character pose limit

tired tree Apr 20, 2020, 6:00 PM

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def have to put in some camera black out at that point

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 6:00 PM

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if it felt horrible it could be changed, but the idea would be that you cant 'cheat' by moving in real life

tired tree Apr 20, 2020, 6:00 PM

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it will totally feel horrible

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its enforcing nearly 3DOF on 6DOF systems

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 6:01 PM

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still 6dof, just not with unrestricted size

tired tree Apr 20, 2020, 6:01 PM

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you can't IK inward on height unless you start bringing in a shrinking spine or weird adjustments around it

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 6:01 PM

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problem is not setting those bounds means that by moving in real life you can violate all the game rules about how fast your character can move, etc, and it becomes cheating

tired tree Apr 20, 2020, 6:02 PM

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when your pelvis is always static

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 6:02 PM

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there would have to be some buffer area for normal human movements, but it coudlnt be unrestricted

tired tree Apr 20, 2020, 6:02 PM

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you can totally do all of this, for sure

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not sure how much people will like it, depends on the final implementation

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and REALLY depends on how good the IK ends up

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 6:03 PM

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basically it's Echo VR

tired tree Apr 20, 2020, 6:03 PM

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thats not echo VR

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echo VR uses a collision body around the head

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 6:03 PM

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the only difference is that in echo your body follows your head

tired tree Apr 20, 2020, 6:03 PM

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and trailed the body to it

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which is a lot cleaner

quiet vector Apr 20, 2020, 6:04 PM

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I'm not proposing something hugely different though, just mainly preventing a player who walks in real life from moving outside the limits in the game

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part of what I want is for the player movement speed to be slower by default, and have in-game things you can do to speed yourself up, but if a player can quickly walk 6 feet in real life and move their player they essentially violate and break that balance and functionality

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in Echo it's not so bad because players can all move at the same speed

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but if all players couldnt move at the same speed it becomes a bigger issue

mighty carbon Apr 20, 2020, 9:08 PM

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I think 4.25 release might drop this week

carmine yoke Apr 21, 2020, 11:18 AM

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Have they done anything with stereo layers yet? @mighty carbon

mighty carbon Apr 21, 2020, 11:21 AM

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Nah @carmine yoke, haven't messed with them for a long while

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I think they are broken in 4.24 anyway

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Should be fixed in 4.25

carmine yoke Apr 21, 2020, 11:22 AM

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Hopefully

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They're way too good not to be using them. It makes such a difference

mighty carbon Apr 21, 2020, 11:29 AM

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Has anything changed with setting up widget to be rendered in the stereo layer ?

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Used to be a cumbersome setup in BP

mighty carbon Apr 21, 2020, 11:45 AM

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@carmine yoke ^^^

carmine yoke Apr 21, 2020, 11:54 AM

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No its still the same, but tbh I don't find it that bad. Just setup the widget as you normally would, make it invisible and stick in a stereo layer instead. Once you know the process its easy to repeat. I've got all my widgets in quest running on that and they look great.

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@mighty carbon

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Problem is I'm trying to port to the Pico Neo 2 and they don't support stereo layers. So I'm having to go back to regular widgets and they just look..... trash.

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I'm not sure I can justify the switch literally based on a lack of stereo layers. And I can't imagine them working without integration in Pico's SDK for 4.25 😦

mighty carbon Apr 21, 2020, 11:59 AM

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and stick in a stereo layer part is what I forgot how to do 😅 @carmine yoke

carmine yoke Apr 21, 2020, 12:00 PM

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Just get the render target (check its valid first though) and set texture in stereo layer. Might have to mess with settings a little bit like support depth, live texture. But I got them working well on quest. And as I said, the legibility is 1000% better. Like night and day difference

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Shame Epic just isn't putting in the work to support them that they should be 😦

tired tree Apr 21, 2020, 12:06 PM

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@mighty carbon you are using the plugin anyway, there is a stereo layer widget component in it

mighty carbon Apr 21, 2020, 12:06 PM

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Ahh, sweet

tired tree Apr 21, 2020, 12:06 PM

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Just place it and set the class

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Keep in mind that last I knew, some transparency combinations can brick rift builds

mighty carbon Apr 21, 2020, 12:07 PM

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Got it, thanks

carmine yoke Apr 21, 2020, 12:10 PM

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If you put /OculusVR in the additional assets to cook it seems to get rid of most bugs in 4.23, can't confirm for 4.24

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@mighty carbon @tired tree

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Like the support depth translucency issue

mighty carbon Apr 21, 2020, 12:13 PM

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I use Oculus fork of UE4, I am not sure about the bugs there

carmine yoke Apr 21, 2020, 12:14 PM

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Ye so do I 👍

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Still on v 1.42 though

mighty carbon Apr 21, 2020, 12:33 PM

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I see

tired tree Apr 21, 2020, 1:14 PM

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@carmine yoke different issue and occurs in PC as well

broken fable Apr 22, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Hey guys. Does anyone know why Online Subsystem Oculus plugin has leaderboard read limit of 100? I'm looking at the source code ReadOculusLeaderboards method in OnlineLeaderboardOculus and it has a hardcoded value of 100 that gets passed to the native oculus api. So what if a leaderboard has more than 100 users. Why is it so and how to get around it?

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heres the source code

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bool FOnlineLeaderboardOculus::ReadOculusLeaderboards(bool bOnlyFriends, bool bOnlyLoggedInUser, FOnlineLeaderboardReadRef& ReadObject)
{
auto FilterType = (bOnlyFriends) ? ovrLeaderboard_FilterFriends : ovrLeaderboard_FilterNone;

auto Limit = 100;
auto StartAt = ovrLeaderboard_StartAtTop;

// If only getting the logged in user, then only return back one result
if (bOnlyLoggedInUser)
{
    Limit = 1;
    StartAt = ovrLeaderboard_StartAtCenteredOnViewer;
}

ReadObject->ReadState = EOnlineAsyncTaskState::InProgress;
OculusSubsystem.AddRequestDelegate(
    ovr_Leaderboard_GetEntries(TCHAR_TO_ANSI(*ReadObject->LeaderboardName.ToString()), Limit, FilterType, StartAt),
    FOculusMessageOnCompleteDelegate::CreateLambda([this, ReadObject](ovrMessageHandle Message, bool bIsError)
{
    OnReadLeaderboardsComplete(Message, bIsError, ReadObject);
}));
return true;

}

oak ridge Apr 23, 2020, 3:41 AM

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hi, question about ARCore (Android) Does image tracking work now? If so, Are there any docs on how to set it up

topaz plank Apr 23, 2020, 9:09 AM

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Does anyone know how motion controller <-> UI widget interaction works in VR expansion plugin? I can't find a widget interaction component...

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nevermind me, just found it in the teleport controller

mighty carbon Apr 23, 2020, 3:35 PM

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😦 https://issues.unrealengine.com/issue/UE-86191

sturdy canyon Apr 23, 2020, 3:40 PM

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There's a workaround. You just need to flip two console variables

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r.SceneRenderTargetResizeMethod=2
r.SceneRenderTargetResizeMethodForceOverride=True

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This will cause it to eat more memory than needed, but perf will be good

mighty carbon Apr 23, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Thanks.. I probably don't need it on Quest (cuz it will perform like sh!t most likely), but just sad to see it being "fixed" and then not fixed and moved to 4.26

sturdy canyon Apr 23, 2020, 5:19 PM

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I use it on Quest and it's fine

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well.. "fine"

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It's quite expensive in terms of draw calls

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I use it in a few places. to create an icon for the player avatar, it snaps a picture of your sculpted head. When running around with the camera tool, it shows the world on the camera's screen. And I have a comfort mode for linear motion that shows motion on a rendered screen, but infrequently teleports your VR view

covert ferry Apr 23, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Hi all, I use my quest plugged into my pc for vr preview while working on my project...

For some reason today I am appearing like I am VERY tall and I cant seem to fix it

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any idea what I might need to do ?

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Im looking down on everything that should be eye level...

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nevermind, I just had to fix the floor height in my guardian settings