#virtual-reality | Unreal Source | Page 216

granite jacinth Nov 27, 2019, 6:02 PM

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How is that even an option? You know this is Unreal server right?

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But if you meant the VR Template in Unreal. Then sure.

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You can do whatever you want

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There are many options. Many plugins and templates available to you

unkempt dagger Nov 27, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Oh I wrote unity. Yikes 😂

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I of course meant the Unreal template haha

My question was more if its a good starting point or if people recommend trying to build my own to understand it on a deeper lvl. Or if just looking through the blueprints would be fine

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Gonna leave my typo for comedic effect kappa

spiral marsh Nov 27, 2019, 7:31 PM

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is there a way to get which direction the player moved their motion controller. Say I wanted to call an event whenever someone moved their controllers to the right at a certain velocity. Is something like that possible? I am using an Oculus Rift S

sturdy coral Nov 27, 2019, 10:11 PM

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@lean basalt set supports depth true on the stereo layer component

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Only 4.24 supports it with steamvr though

lean basalt Nov 27, 2019, 10:15 PM

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@sturdy coral Dude that makes a lot of sense! I will download version 4.24 to test, about SteamVR can you tell me the direction I should study? Again thank you very much for clarifying 🙌

tribal coral Nov 28, 2019, 1:59 AM

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@spiral marsh Try Gesture Tracker VR

spiral marsh Nov 28, 2019, 3:36 AM

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that looks like what I want thank you @tribal coral

pine nimbus Nov 28, 2019, 8:21 AM

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When I let UE4 auto choose the Steam models for motioncontroller components, in a packaged build there's no material applied, and switching to knuckles doesn't change the Vive wands to Knuckles models, what am I missing?

tired tree Nov 28, 2019, 1:08 PM

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@pine nimbus got a patch pushed in that fixed that in a recent engine version. Can't remember off the top of my head if it was 4.22 or 4.23 though.

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At least the textures, love switching isn't going to reload it

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Live

pine nimbus Nov 28, 2019, 1:59 PM

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@tired tree ah as expected of such a hero

crystal oak Nov 28, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Anyone got any tips for aligning up a index controller with a hand mesh?

lean basalt Nov 28, 2019, 5:03 PM

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@sturdy coral It really is a bug in the UE4.23 version! 🤦‍♂️ I tested it on version 4.24 and it worked. 😌 Just noticed that in the case of the hand the material of the knuckles becomes transparent. Thanks for the quick and accurate help.

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tired tree Nov 28, 2019, 5:11 PM

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@lean basalt not a bug, they just didn't support depth submission in pre 4.24, it was Oculus only

lean basalt Nov 28, 2019, 5:13 PM

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@tired tree Uhumm now I understand! Unfortunately in my internet searches I did not find this information!

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@tired tree Do you know any way to load an image sequence into the oculus quest? I already tried by conventional methods but it gets a black screen. 🤔

sturdy canyon Nov 28, 2019, 7:51 PM

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https://twitter.com/unrealengine/status/1200134766001041408?s=21

Unreal Engine (@UnrealEngine)

Nathan Rowe, creator of @SculptrVR, shares his unique solution to efficient lighting on the Oculus Quest. #UE4

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I’m famous now!

wicked oak Nov 28, 2019, 9:59 PM

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Destiny and warframe both do that, kinda

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essentially its COOP but world is shared and matchmakes randomly

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@sturdy canyon great work

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its like what Red Matter does, those guys alsoi went with unlit + custom shader entirely

placid spear Nov 28, 2019, 10:10 PM

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Does anyone have suggestions on how to implement a FOV limiter?

sturdy canyon Nov 28, 2019, 10:12 PM

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Mine is way way simpler, though! Thanks @wicked oak

eternal inlet Nov 28, 2019, 10:43 PM

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@sturdy canyon nice job. The voxel manipulation, is that done via cpp or are there some BP alternative?

sturdy canyon Nov 28, 2019, 10:57 PM

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Naw it’s all cpp

odd garnet Nov 29, 2019, 1:12 AM

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https://youtu.be/ZIs8-7sJaUY

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James Nye

[Coming Soon] Full Body Tracking VR Combat with Vive Trackers in H...

Full body tracking is so much fun! https://store.steampowered.com/app/995140/Hand_to_Hand_Combat

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got full body tracking working

crystal oak Nov 29, 2019, 5:58 AM

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is theres quick starter guide for gripping in vr and such?

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kinda new too gripping

pine nimbus Nov 29, 2019, 6:06 AM

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@crystal oak VR Expansion has all the grip stuff you'll ever need probably, and includes a demo project to tinker with

crystal oak Nov 29, 2019, 6:07 AM

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Where about is the demo project? just looking to read over the basics

pine nimbus Nov 29, 2019, 6:09 AM

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https://bitbucket.org/mordentral/vrexppluginexample/src/default/

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https://vreue4.com/#

VR Expansion Plugin

mordentral

About

crystal oak Nov 29, 2019, 6:11 AM

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Ty

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im not familiar with bitbucket, unable to directly download?

pine nimbus Nov 29, 2019, 6:22 AM

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https://bitbucket.org/mordentral/vrexppluginexample/downloads/

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Yap you can download the zippy here

crystal oak Nov 29, 2019, 6:23 AM

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oh u gotta take it all for the example project, gotcha

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Oh btw, where can i find out on index controls action mapping names?

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Like what buttons are called what in ue4

pine nimbus Nov 29, 2019, 6:26 AM

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oh u gotta take it all for the example project, gotcha
There's separate downloads for the actual plugin

crystal oak Nov 29, 2019, 6:54 AM

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Thanks

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i can not for the light of me find info on index controller input bindings

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oh what the fricc theres a plugin for it by valve lmao

odd garnet Nov 29, 2019, 9:30 AM

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@crystal oak Steam VR Input Plugin

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or the OpenInput Plugin by the same guy as the VR Expansion Plugin (not inputs but skeletal tracking)

crystal oak Nov 29, 2019, 10:36 AM

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Thanks

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Anyone got any tips for when your doing Movement input, not too sure where the best place to get my forward and right vector from is

odd garnet Nov 29, 2019, 12:02 PM

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controller

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then project to a plane

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so you're not getting the up / down pointing on the controller

brisk spade Nov 29, 2019, 1:09 PM

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does some have some ideas of interactions form in a Cottage factory?
it should be focused on the steam engine that powers all spindles

tired tree Nov 29, 2019, 1:57 PM

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@crystal oak in 4.24 that valve plugin is part of the engine. And binding in general moves to the openxr paradigm where you define "actions" separate from the keys that call them and then each controller can have different mappings to the actions.

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Also vre is my plugin and you were already in its support discord from the ik talk 😂

crystal oak Nov 29, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Ah gotcha, and yeah im aware

merry raven Nov 29, 2019, 3:57 PM

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is there an easy way to print a string in vr?

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ive tried the one with 35 newlines in front but I cannot read it, its too small for my terribly eyesight x)

carmine yoke Nov 29, 2019, 4:43 PM

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Read it in the console instead @merry raven ?

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What are you trying to print?

merry raven Nov 29, 2019, 4:45 PM

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Oh I was just trying to figure out why something doesnt work

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console will do!

past tiger Nov 29, 2019, 4:46 PM

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I'm also curious if somebody has a nice way to view debug statements in game

carmine yoke Nov 29, 2019, 4:47 PM

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I mostly just use the console, and peak at it when I need to

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Otherwise I have in the past made a dedicated UMG widget for it which I either just place in world or Attatch to HMD depending how I'm feeling. That was only because I was debugging points or something - I forget

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But generally console works for me

tired tree Nov 29, 2019, 5:00 PM

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there are a couple of debug plugins for VR in the marketplace now

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I use a custom console with keyboard thta I made that reads the output log and console outputs

alpine oyster Nov 29, 2019, 5:15 PM

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quick question, i have a punch gesture implemented using a gesture tracker, but taller people finish the gesture quicker and it messes with the immersion

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also the directional attack of the punch gesture comes out of different ends

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how can i calculate velocity and a vector so that the punch creates a fireball that only spawns when the punch is completed (ie velocity is 0) and so the fireball spawns in the direction of punch?

tired tree Nov 29, 2019, 5:26 PM

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you keep a buffer of inputs over a set amount of frames

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average their direction, maybe weighting heavier on the final ones

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throwing out ones that are below a set threshold (fist stops moving)

alpine oyster Nov 29, 2019, 5:28 PM

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how can I go about doing that?

cosmic shoal Nov 29, 2019, 5:28 PM

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@past tiger I just used a simple print screen, but made the font huge

alpine oyster Nov 29, 2019, 5:29 PM

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also, what is the best way for the fireball to spawn? should I create a socket on the mesh? or should i just have a scene component in the hand?

tired tree Nov 29, 2019, 5:33 PM

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doesn't matter either way

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as for the other one, either an array or running average of current position - last on the hand

alpine oyster Nov 29, 2019, 5:37 PM

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do i have to do that on tick?

tired tree Nov 29, 2019, 5:39 PM

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well you'll have to sample it every frame

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so anything that updates constantly

alpine oyster Nov 29, 2019, 6:32 PM

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hmm okay i will try to figure it out

alpine oyster Nov 29, 2019, 9:22 PM

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okay im just having a bit of trouble getting the velocities, or at least, optimizing it

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i have a gesture tracker component that definitely works based on some kind of frame update, just not sure how to get the forward vector

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should i just do on tick?

hybrid plume Nov 29, 2019, 11:02 PM

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@alpine oyster Tried tracking collision spaces for this?

alpine oyster Nov 29, 2019, 11:05 PM

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you mean like collision spheres on the motion controllers? wouldnt that need on tick as well?

hybrid plume Nov 29, 2019, 11:29 PM

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Yes, delta the time between a sequence of collision spaces, that if fires correctly spawns the fireball

alpine oyster Nov 29, 2019, 11:30 PM

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makes sense, could i just use a timer to avoid tick? or could i have an event that only fires when the velcoity is zero?

hybrid plume Nov 29, 2019, 11:32 PM

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Timers probably work, velocities are one way, or tags

alpine oyster Nov 29, 2019, 11:33 PM

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okay cool, will test it out thanks!

alpine oyster Nov 30, 2019, 12:32 AM

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okay it works on tick, but is there a way where i can achieve this using event dispatchers and custom events?

tired tree Nov 30, 2019, 1:09 AM

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you can make them and throw it

alpine oyster Nov 30, 2019, 1:11 AM

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can you explain?

sturdy coral Nov 30, 2019, 6:21 AM

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@alpine oyster you most likely don't need to avoid a tick if it is only for the player

merry raven Nov 30, 2019, 11:47 AM

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Has anyone tried using the Sequence Recorder with VR?
I set it up to record my MotionControllerPawn and all Actors I interact with, but (some of) the actors are just kinda glitching all over the place?
Anyone have an idea what I could be doing wrong? https://youtu.be/AH1KY6UdsH8

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crystal oak Nov 30, 2019, 12:05 PM

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Decent way to check if your in VR mode?

fleet plume Nov 30, 2019, 12:23 PM

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@crystal oak i'm using these two

    bool DisplayConnected = UHeadMountedDisplayFunctionLibrary::IsHeadMountedDisplayConnected();
    bool DisplayEnabled = UHeadMountedDisplayFunctionLibrary::IsHeadMountedDisplayEnabled();

crystal oak Nov 30, 2019, 12:24 PM

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Okay does that work if its on and enabled say from steam vr or?

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Im trying to be able to enter game in non vr mode for prototyping and checking

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but i cant really figure out how to check so i can do control switches

fleet plume Nov 30, 2019, 12:25 PM

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yeah that should work for that

crystal oak Nov 30, 2019, 12:26 PM

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ty ❤️

crystal oak Nov 30, 2019, 12:44 PM

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Btw what sort of tweaks would i need to make too the basic replicated vr character to be able to use typical controller input like the third person for debugging reasons

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use controller rotation & unlock HMD seams to not do it

sturdy coral Nov 30, 2019, 2:58 PM

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@crystal oak basic VR template uses a pawn which has no character movement

cold siren Nov 30, 2019, 3:54 PM

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@high trench I have heard good things about using world machine with ue4. However, I am a landscape architect and i use a lot of GIS data and I have had great success (with some trial and error of course) by importing GIS derived heightmaps directly in to unreal with doing a little bit of math to get the scales to fit. This is has been great for me importing real world terrain in unreal. This also tiles the landscapes and you can even get them to be streaming levels if desired.

tired tree Nov 30, 2019, 4:11 PM

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@crystal oak in my template I keep a subclass of the main character that is an FPS test character. It just locks the hands in place and uses movement bindings and then calls the same grip functions as the master class

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I switch between it with a node that checks if in VR Preview or not so can be used back and forth

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just that kind of setup would work

sage gulch Nov 30, 2019, 5:54 PM

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is there an issue with PickupActorInterface and c++ projects? I'm not much of a coder, but I duplicated the interface and my copy fails building due to "Error: Class 'UPickupActorInterface' must inherit UObject or a UObject-derived class" ... but the files are the same aside from names; afaict the class definitions are the same, and they both work in testing...

merry raven Nov 30, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Has anyone tried using the Sequence Recorder with VR?
I set it up to record my MotionControllerPawn and all Actors I interact with, but (some of) the actors are just kinda glitching all over the place?
Anyone have an idea what I could be doing wrong? https://youtu.be/AH1KY6UdsH8

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hallow knoll Nov 30, 2019, 8:26 PM

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@merry raven The actors that are "glitching" are still simulating physics during your sequence. What is your logic set up to do once you grab them? You need to make sure they stop simulating physics and attach to the motioncontrollers. I've had to do some specific things to make my gameplay logic play properly once recorded in a sequence (like replacing the physics actors with dummies specifically for recording etc).

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Sequencer won't record the exact logic that's executing in your gameplay code, it'll only record things like "spawn actor/particle", "attach" etc. Any logic that references a player controller etc won't work when you're playing it back in editor

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@crystal oak I inherit from the VR pawn and do a bunch of hacks to it (attach MC's to camera, lock camera, add specific keyboard input to that pawn only etc). When my "spawn pawn" logic executes, I check to see if VR is connected/enabled, and spawn the "FlatPawn" if it isn't

merry raven Nov 30, 2019, 8:35 PM

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@hallow knoll This is all it does when I grab it: https://i.imgur.com/co5OG3n.png

Imgur

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Besides that I really only set Transforms

hallow knoll Nov 30, 2019, 8:55 PM

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Yeah that simulate physics isn't being called in Sequencer. I don't have an immediate fix but doing physics in general as part of a sequence will give you different results every time and should be avoided

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If you want something to look like it's simulating physics in a sequence, then I would record the transforms of the object and play it back as an animation

merry raven Nov 30, 2019, 9:13 PM

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@hallow knoll Thanks, ill look into that
Maybe Sequencer isn't the right tool for what I want, I basically want to record this and play it back to another player (so they can see whats happening in VR):
https://youtu.be/sPPWZ62sFFw
Would Matinee be better for this?

sturdy coral Nov 30, 2019, 9:32 PM

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@merry raven matinee doesn't have any of the recording features, only other option is network demo replay if your game is fully networked

merry raven Nov 30, 2019, 9:32 PM

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its not unfortunately :/

void raptor Nov 30, 2019, 10:12 PM

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Is anyone here interested in playtesting a game with me? I think i got the multiplayer part down, i just only have 1 hmd and no friends with vr so i cant really test it

merry raven Nov 30, 2019, 10:35 PM

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@hallow knoll I'm quite new to UE, how would I do this? "I would record the transforms of the object and play it back as an animation"

cosmic shoal Nov 30, 2019, 10:56 PM

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@void raptor I can give you a hand

void raptor Nov 30, 2019, 11:32 PM

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@cosmic shoal cool! ill hit you up in dms

lapis yoke Dec 1, 2019, 6:15 AM

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Anyone know how to detect the Headset and Controller type in blueprints? I want to switch my in game controller models automatically based on what you're using. I can detect if it's Steam, or Oculus, but that doesn't help me identify if you're using vive wands, oculus controllers, or index controllers on steam.

odd garnet Dec 1, 2019, 11:00 AM

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something something SteamVR something something

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type SteamVR and theres a node for device ID or something

weak harbor Dec 1, 2019, 11:28 AM

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I am looking for the same, and figured out this solution:

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You have to run it after the controllers are on

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Not sure what all the results are. Index return "SteamVR"

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Looks like SteamVR represents both vive and index :/

eternal inlet Dec 1, 2019, 11:38 AM

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i was trying to find a download for "Silent Hill pt" for VR, anyone happen to have a link or can upload somewhere?

cyan kayak Dec 1, 2019, 5:47 PM

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Any one know how to detect if the Vive index or normal vive is connected ?

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and the question above mine is exactly that guess no one know

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or there is no way

sage gulch Dec 2, 2019, 6:46 AM

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is there a way to turn off oculus timewarp/spacewarp? it produces too much distortion when the scene contrast is high

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or when emissive values are high

frigid kite Dec 2, 2019, 8:41 AM

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Improve the performance of your application

fading shore Dec 2, 2019, 12:48 PM

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Hi, test anyone RTX in VR ? In desktop all is right, but in VR editor stucks.

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no crashes, no messages, just stuck foreveк

sturdy coral Dec 2, 2019, 2:47 PM

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@fading shore it is not supported in 4.23in vr, I’m not sure about 4.24. Which are you testing on?

little scaffold Dec 2, 2019, 4:03 PM

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Anyone know if there is a way to fade in the Splash screen of Oculus instead of popping it?

normal wadi Dec 2, 2019, 5:58 PM

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Hey guys does settrackingsource still work on 4.22 ? Because I tried to setup a basic hmd + 2 controlers for my rift and wasn't able to get tracking for my controlers

sage gulch Dec 2, 2019, 6:05 PM

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performance will certainly effect timewarp/spacewarp, obviously.. but you can see it induce very obvious tearing even in published applications that are using minimal system resources, like a loading menu made of black bg and white text in deoVR will tear just from looking at it

daring mural Dec 2, 2019, 6:56 PM

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I can hear audio properly in editor VR preview but in a packaged build, the audio outputs through my speakers instead of the HMD, anyone know why?

fading shore Dec 2, 2019, 9:22 PM

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@sturdy coral where can I read about it? I am testing at 4.23.1.

sturdy coral Dec 2, 2019, 9:49 PM

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@fading shore there is some mention of it in 4.24 changelog

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@sage gulch it shouldn't kick in at all unless the app is missing frames

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unless you have it set to forced always-on maybe

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a loading menu is not necessarily using minimal resources, many many apps drop frames during load

ember forum Dec 2, 2019, 10:09 PM

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@daring mural

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and lastly also check here

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daring mural Dec 2, 2019, 10:11 PM

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@ember forum I thought that too but, shouldn't it automatically play in the rift? I can hear everything else in the rift fine, like when I close out of VR preview I can hear the Oculus Home music play etc.

ember forum Dec 2, 2019, 10:11 PM

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its a windows thing

daring mural Dec 2, 2019, 10:11 PM

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Running games from the Oculus Store also plays through the HMD fine. Maybe because this is an executable I'm running locally I have to set the sound output in Windows

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?

ember forum Dec 2, 2019, 10:12 PM

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your guess

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as good as mine

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but that is the fix above

sturdy coral Dec 3, 2019, 1:39 AM

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@daring mural @ember forum when running with oculus it is supposed to ignore system default device and use the one provided by the oculus runtime

ember forum Dec 3, 2019, 2:07 AM

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"supposed to"

stark wyvern Dec 3, 2019, 4:56 AM

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Hello, I'm having issues with testing out my AR app in iOS. Previously, I was able to test out by launching the project to my iPad and everything worked fine. But recently, it would either:

Be stuck at the UE4 splash screen
Or turn into a black screen after 1 second of the UE4 splash screen.

So far I've tried the following.

Deleting Saved, Intermediate and Build folder.
Updating the iPad.
Deleting the DefaultConfig.ini and redoing it.

The strangest part is that even though I open an empty AR project (from Unreal Engine) and launch it on my iPad, the same things happen. So I thought the iPad itself would be the problem. I tried it on my phone but it does the same thing as well. Has anyone experienced this problem before? Help would be much appreciated!

Edit: Amateur mistake. I just had to update the engine...

balmy lion Dec 3, 2019, 5:36 AM

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Anyone got experience with Weapon Master VR/VR Gun Tool Kit + Advanced VR Framework 2.0 or VRE?

daring pasture Dec 3, 2019, 5:45 AM

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Yes

balmy lion Dec 3, 2019, 5:46 AM

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Would it be okay if I asked you a few questions?

daring pasture Dec 3, 2019, 5:46 AM

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Sure just dm me

solar surge Dec 3, 2019, 6:13 AM

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anyone here use vrep/vr expansion and doesn't mind me asking them a few questions? 🙂

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capsule isn't following HMD at all, and I am using the proper class (vrcharacter)

normal wadi Dec 3, 2019, 10:38 AM

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Hey guys about 6 months ago I made a little demo using my rift on UE4 and I was trying to change it but hand are no longer tracked, it's kinda like MotionController->SetTrackingSource(Hand); this doesn't work anymore

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anyone have an idea why ?

willow trail Dec 3, 2019, 10:40 AM

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Hello, does the engine (4.23) struggle with stencil meshes/tests, and VR?

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Whenever I enable custom stencil tests my left eye goes completely black

carmine yoke Dec 3, 2019, 10:49 AM

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@normal wadi I think 'hand' is deprecated

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Don't quote me on that though

normal wadi Dec 3, 2019, 10:51 AM

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Hand is a EControllerHand in that code

rare sand Dec 3, 2019, 11:32 AM

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Can someone help me out with a ar where u track a image and an object spawns on the tracked image and once the tracked image goes out of frame the object despawns

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I m new to ar

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Help will be much appreciated

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Also it's for a phone if that helps narrow down

alpine ore Dec 3, 2019, 12:02 PM

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Hi all, sorry for asking if this has already been asked, but when the Quest is connected to the PC via a link compatible cable should you be able to use the VR preview feature in the editor through it?

alpine ore Dec 3, 2019, 12:28 PM

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Just answering my own question. The answer is yes. After restarting unreal and the headset it seemed to work

rare sand Dec 3, 2019, 12:42 PM

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When i package the project for android it seemed to create a new local drive on it's own is that suppose to happen and what if i want to delete that drive

lean basalt Dec 3, 2019, 1:50 PM

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Does anyone know of any way to improve AA quality in oculus quest?

mighty carbon Dec 3, 2019, 2:35 PM

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?? Isn't MSAA x4 enough ?

lean basalt Dec 3, 2019, 4:43 PM

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@mighty carbon Unfortunately not! You can't read the texts clearly

mighty carbon Dec 3, 2019, 4:44 PM

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is it a render text? Or is it an image with text?

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if it's a render text (masked font), you are not in luck because UE4 doesn't support alpha to coverage on mobile and thus those things won't get AA'ed by MSAA

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if it's an image/widget with text, then you need to use stereo layers

mighty carbon Dec 3, 2019, 5:38 PM

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not sure if it's for all Oculus products, but https://developer.oculus.com/blog/updates-to-the-oculus-leaderboards-feature-destinations-social-stories-notifications/

ember forum Dec 3, 2019, 8:40 PM

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@hallow knoll are there any plans to support using the Oculus Link(with the Quest) in the Unreal Editor as a Rift?

hallow knoll Dec 3, 2019, 8:40 PM

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@ember forum There's nothing that needs to be done in the editor, it works "as is"

ember forum Dec 3, 2019, 8:40 PM

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oh wow, nice

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so tired of all this cable management

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sorry for the question, i just saw someone asked the exact same thing, but also, thanks

native cedar Dec 3, 2019, 11:15 PM

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Sup guys, I am trying to deploy on oculus Quest (launch level) with UE. I tried 2 versions, 4.22 and oculus custom engine 4.23 and they both yield the same result: either level is black or the quest keeps loading it without ever displaying anything. Is there something I am missing?

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From a second Google search, sounds like a manifest related issue

tame thistle Dec 4, 2019, 12:11 AM

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Double check mobile HDR is off if multi-view is turned on (I think those were the options that gave me that issue)

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@native cedar

tame thistle Dec 4, 2019, 12:40 AM

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UE4.24, does the Vive need additional setup other than plugin enabled to work? I've migrated an archvis to 4.24, slapped the VR template pawn in with all the default settings (except Start in VR enabled), but in a packaged build the hands don't track and no inputs work. Head does track.

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I usually work with Rift/Quest, this is first time trying to package for SteamVR.

tired tree Dec 4, 2019, 1:27 AM

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4.24 moves to the new steamVR input system

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you likely need to regenerate your manifest for it

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first launch of several projects on it had issues due to stale files

tame thistle Dec 4, 2019, 1:31 AM

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Through here I'm guessing?

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Was gonna claim it wasn't there earlier, then I remembered I only installed the SteamVR Input plugin 10 minutes ago.

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Thanks, that seems to have fixed it.

tired tree Dec 4, 2019, 2:43 AM

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@tame thistle thought you loaded up 4.24? its embedded in 4.24

tame thistle Dec 4, 2019, 2:59 AM

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Yeah, 4.24. You're probably right and I just had a moment of blindness.

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 9:05 AM

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Hey, maybe I should try here... I'm trying to have a visual origin marker in VR with a post process effect that fades everything else out EXCEPT for the marker. The only solution I found was to make the marker translucent and ignore depth test, write the marker to stencil and then do a stencil test on the post process fade out effect.
But whenever I do that it breaks rendering for some reason and the left eye go black. The engine doesn't seem to like that combination... Any idea?

fading shore Dec 4, 2019, 10:53 AM

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Hi! instanced stereo completely brakes my niagara! I 100 % need instanced stereo. Any suggestions?

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📎 InstancedStereoEnabled.mp4

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📎 InstancedStereoDisabled.mp4

frigid kite Dec 4, 2019, 11:25 AM

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@willow trail Are you using instanced stereo?

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@fading shore Yes, Niagara has not supported instanced stereo since its inception and it still doesn't, Epic seems to have very low priority for VR

little scaffold Dec 4, 2019, 12:16 PM

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@willow trail I am using custom stencil and it works fine on the Rift S, what headset are you using?

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 12:46 PM

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@frigid kite Sorry had to leave, I tried with and without instanced stereo

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@little scaffold Valve Index

frigid kite Dec 4, 2019, 12:47 PM

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Doubt is has anything to do with headset, it's all DX11

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Unless for whatever reason the Oculus plugin does support stencilling while SteamVR doesn't

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When exactly does the left eye go black?

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Just when rendering anything to the stencil buffer?

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 12:48 PM

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I think just enabling the custom stencil in the project settings and setting a post process material that uses a stencil test blackens the left eye

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Disabling fully the PP material or disabling writing custom stencil removed the problem

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Right eye otherwise functions flawlessly and does what I want 🤷‍♂️ (has the post process effect only affect that value in the custom stencil buffer)

frigid kite Dec 4, 2019, 12:52 PM

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There's definitely something funky going on, maybe submit a bug report?

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 12:53 PM

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Yeah I'll have to 😕

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Unfortunately I need this to work for friday 😦

frigid kite Dec 4, 2019, 12:53 PM

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Hmm then we'll think up an alternative

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I could tell you how to whip up a custom render pass after all effects in Unity in a few lines of code, sadly I lack the working knowledge for Unreal

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 12:54 PM

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If it helps, basically when I teleport my users around I fade in and out (lot of them will be first time users, like 95% of them)

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But I also fade out manually, and I just want a small puck to be seen through the black veil to tell them to "go to it" to recenter them in the space

frigid kite Dec 4, 2019, 12:54 PM

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Have you tried using a black mesh instead of a PP materal with the stencil?

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 12:55 PM

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Yeah I could use a black mesh I suppose, but I'd like hands to render over the top of it aswell, since hiding one's hands

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for other reasons

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since hiding one's hands can be disturbing*

frigid kite Dec 4, 2019, 12:55 PM

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The hands would also just be writing to the stencil

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You'd also have to do that for the PP approach anyway

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 12:57 PM

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I guess the hands are already rendered to the stencil or something

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because I can already see them through

frigid kite Dec 4, 2019, 12:57 PM

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Hmm I think that's possible because you have the late update for the hands turned on

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by default, motion controllers are rendered separately to the rest of the world for lower latency

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it's a checkbox

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 12:58 PM

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That makes sense, but why do I see the slight aliasing behind the hands if it's a totally seperate render pass?

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I'd send a screenshot but the left eye (the mirrored one) that's black

frigid kite Dec 4, 2019, 12:58 PM

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hmm, can't Unreal pick which eye it mirrors? 😦

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 12:58 PM

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Oh or are you seeing it's not rendered seperateing for me?

frigid kite Dec 4, 2019, 12:59 PM

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Well it appears that it does because you see it through PP

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 12:59 PM

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I'll check

frigid kite Dec 4, 2019, 12:59 PM

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It's just a guess with the late update

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 1:03 PM

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https://puu.sh/ELGRA/9b80acb704.mp4

▶ Play video

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@frigid kite Yeah that aliasing around makes me think it's rendered in the same pass, but I'm not sure 🤷‍♂️

frigid kite Dec 4, 2019, 1:06 PM

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I do believe it's a separate render command for the motion controller model IIRC, I looked at the code some time ago

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Have you tried turning off the checkbox for late updates in the motion controller component?

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 1:08 PM

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The MCs components are spawned by the Pawn actor, but I can't find that option in the pawn or as a blueprint editable parameter in the spawned ones

frigid kite Dec 4, 2019, 1:08 PM

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DisableLowLatencyUpdate?

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 1:09 PM

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Oh yes I did find it hold on

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https://i.imgur.com/DwIEpmc.png Tried with and without and couldn't see much difference to be honest aliasing wise

Imgur

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But I'll definitely keep that parameter in mind for later though

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Also i did find the node changing the stencil depth value, it is set to 200

tired tree Dec 4, 2019, 1:12 PM

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the hands aren't a seperate render....

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they are just resampled just prior to rendering the scene and their scene proxies and moved

frigid kite Dec 4, 2019, 1:13 PM

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hmm alright 🤔

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So why are they above the PP effect?

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oh ok

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 1:13 PM

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Well they're not, they do have a custom stencil value

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Yeah my stencil test is just != 0

frigid kite Dec 4, 2019, 1:13 PM

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Yeah, just saw that

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 1:14 PM

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So I either need to find a way to use a black mesh and show the hands overtop of them without using the stencil buffer, or somehow find a way to fix that weird bug

frigid kite Dec 4, 2019, 1:14 PM

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Does the eye go black without using the PP material?

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 1:15 PM

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If I disable it there's no issue

frigid kite Dec 4, 2019, 1:15 PM

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So just render the black mesh with a stencil test?

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 1:15 PM

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Oh

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right

frigid kite Dec 4, 2019, 1:15 PM

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or actually, it'll just work if your hands and the marker mesh ignore Z testing

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but then your hands will render through geometry

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which you might not want

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since it would be disorienting to users

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 1:16 PM

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Yeah users use their hands and see how much it clips through to get a grasp of scale (which is the main use of what I'm doing) :/

tired tree Dec 4, 2019, 1:16 PM

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@willow trail are you using MSAA?

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 1:16 PM

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Yes

tired tree Dec 4, 2019, 1:16 PM

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and trying to clip things via depth?

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yeah...the depth buffer with MSAA is very imprecise, I assume from the scaling it does

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 1:17 PM

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Oh right

tired tree Dec 4, 2019, 1:17 PM

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you won't get a hard edge on depth buffer operations with it

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 1:17 PM

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Well I'm not to bothered about that to be fair, the fade to black is temporary, users won't notice it much

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Stencil test is only available for post process materials

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Looks like

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I mean it makes sense considering they're not ordered

frigid kite Dec 4, 2019, 1:27 PM

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That doesn't really make sense, it is perfectly possible to test the buffer in any shader

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You would indeed need to be able to fudge the render order of the black mesh to be later than the stencil writers

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 1:27 PM

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Yes but they're all rasterized and write to the stencil buffer sequentially right? who's to say my origin puck or the hands have been drawn already

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yeah

frigid kite Dec 4, 2019, 1:28 PM

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Again I can only tell you how to do it in Unity though >_>

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But surely Unreal exposes something like that somewhere

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 1:28 PM

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Pretty sure I can straight up write GLSL or something equivalent in a material node

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Haven't done it before though

frigid kite Dec 4, 2019, 1:28 PM

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That won't change the render order though, that's up to Unreal's renderer

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 1:29 PM

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Not sure I can write glsl without depending on the material parameters though

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yeah

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Hmmm

frigid kite Dec 4, 2019, 1:32 PM

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Can't you use the translucency render order?

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 1:32 PM

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I can try

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@frigid kite Hmm I'm not sure, I'm out of ideas :/

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This sucks because I made a nice roll in fade in post process anyway (nothing too fancy but tuned right for my scene) so that objects disappear as the black veil gets closer

little scaffold Dec 4, 2019, 1:38 PM

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I bet there is something different in the Oculus plugin because I have no problem in using custom stencil with the same type of PPM

📎 unknown.png

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 1:39 PM

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@little scaffold Very possible 🤷‍♀️ Don't have my Oculus here to test it on the same project though

little scaffold Dec 4, 2019, 1:39 PM

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and I don't have my vive either..

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 1:40 PM

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This is on 4.23.1 aswell?

little scaffold Dec 4, 2019, 1:40 PM

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no 4.22.3

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that may be why

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I'll test on 4.23 quickly

frigid kite Dec 4, 2019, 1:45 PM

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As a workaround @willow trail, you can have all your scene materials inherit from a material which fades to unlit black based on scene depth, so you can fade out that way 👼

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 1:51 PM

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@frigid kite Oh no 😦

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But something could still be in front of the origin circle

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and be rendered black

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Well that's not really an issue, granted

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Like, it's the same issue with PPM and the like

little scaffold Dec 4, 2019, 1:53 PM

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@willow trail 4.23.1 with oculus works fine on my end so it should be about the valve index or steam
Just to be sure, in project settings->Rendering->PostProcessing->Custom Depth stencil is set to "Enabled with Stencil" right?

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 1:54 PM

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@little scaffold Yep https://i.imgur.com/vOgARDX.png

Imgur

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Thanks for testing it out

little scaffold Dec 4, 2019, 1:55 PM

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No problem! I would go deeper in seeing what would be the difference between the oculus and the valve index at this point

tired tree Dec 4, 2019, 2:03 PM

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just an outline setup should work fine in steamVR

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never had an issue with that

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also shouldn't be a difference realistically

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 2:07 PM

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@tired tree What do you mean with an outline setup?

rare sand Dec 4, 2019, 2:08 PM

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I need some help with optimization of ar application for android

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 2:09 PM

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(Also posted a bug reports https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/937922/left-eye-goes-black-when-using-custom-stencil-buff.html)

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Humm

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Chaning the blendable Location fixed it

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Just randomly changed it to "Before Tonemapping"

little scaffold Dec 4, 2019, 2:27 PM

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@willow trail glad to know that changed something I'll remember that

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Yup, and I can't even reproduce the bug anymore, even though I tried a bunch of things, restarted the editor and such 🤷‍♂️

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Favorite kind of bug...

tired tree Dec 4, 2019, 2:32 PM

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i meant what qdefouge was trying to move across to steamvr

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but nice that you "fixed" it ;p

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guess it was besides the issue though

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 2:52 PM

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Now I got each eye rendering two eyes

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I haven't even done anything I swear

tired tree Dec 4, 2019, 2:55 PM

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you aren't running with multiple clients PIE VR are you?

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 2:59 PM

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Don't think so, no

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Only have one editor opened anyway, everything else looks nominal

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I'm gonna make some coffee and reboot... https://i.imgur.com/JxrdMni.png

Imgur

willow trail Dec 4, 2019, 3:56 PM

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Definitely can't seem to shake that problem now

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No idea what's going on, it happens if my post process material is enabled (even when I change it to literally do nothing and just output PostProcessInput0)

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Once again fixed it by doing god knows what, but I guess in the end "After tonemapping" is problematic, but "Before Tonemapping" works

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(I certainly don't do any tonemapping myself)

sly sigil Dec 4, 2019, 7:59 PM

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Have been trying to get SteamVR controller bindings to work with my Vive, I can acess the bindings of the UE4 editor but not sure how to access the bindings of my UE4 project as its not being listed under the controller bindings, have I missed a step?

📎 unknown.png

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The list is longer but does not include the project

sturdy coral Dec 4, 2019, 8:14 PM

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@sly sigil what version are you on?

sly sigil Dec 4, 2019, 8:14 PM

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4.23

sturdy coral Dec 4, 2019, 8:14 PM

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you may want to wait on 4.24, everything is changing

sly sigil Dec 4, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Alright will look into it. Got a link to a changelist?

sturdy coral Dec 4, 2019, 8:16 PM

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https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/announcements-and-releases/1683413-unreal-engine-4-24-preview/

Unreal Engine Forums

PREVIEW!

Preview 4 of the upcoming 4.24 release is available now on the Launcher and GitHub. We are making this Preview available so that our developer community can try our new features and help us catch issues before the final release. As fixes are implemented, we will rel...

granite jacinth Dec 4, 2019, 8:17 PM

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damn

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where's 4.23.2

tired tree Dec 4, 2019, 8:21 PM

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not coming

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they already stated that

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@granite jacinth

granite jacinth Dec 4, 2019, 8:22 PM

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what..why

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wtf

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I need that lol

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📎 unknown.png

sly sigil Dec 4, 2019, 8:22 PM

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Seems they have fixed the issue with the A and B buttons on the index then?
UE-83223 SteamVR Vive/VivePro Motion Controllers no longer register inputs

granite jacinth Dec 4, 2019, 8:22 PM

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Where you at bro?!

tired tree Dec 4, 2019, 8:29 PM

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well it will be in 4.24 ;p

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if its been fixed yet or not

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actually that specific one has been fixed, saw your forum post

granite jacinth Dec 4, 2019, 8:33 PM

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Yeah, that's a shame

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I don't want to go on another broken release

mighty carbon Dec 4, 2019, 8:34 PM

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weren't past few releases broken in one way or another ?

tired tree Dec 4, 2019, 8:40 PM

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"all"

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there is always issues

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name of the game

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engine doesn't stay on one version long enough to totally patch it up of eveything that gets introduced normally

granite jacinth Dec 4, 2019, 8:40 PM

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Nah man

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4.10

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That was the one and only "Stability Release"

tired tree Dec 4, 2019, 8:40 PM

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4.10 had a ton of replication issues

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i remember

granite jacinth Dec 4, 2019, 8:40 PM

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They were supposed to do it every 5 releases

tired tree Dec 4, 2019, 8:40 PM

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weren't solved until 4.12

granite jacinth Dec 4, 2019, 8:41 PM

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Could be, I'm sure there's always things

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BUt I mean, for the most stable version

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4.10 was it, because they made it a point

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I wish they have kept with the every 5 versions a stability release.

sly elk Dec 4, 2019, 8:55 PM

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I have a knuckles user complaining about haptic strength and their hands hurting after playing wrench

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does knuckles have way more powerful haptics?

carmine yoke Dec 4, 2019, 10:14 PM

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Is there any reason why my draw thread might be really high? (Oculus quest) I've only got 20 draw calls in this scene, 57k Prims, which is much less than other scenes which run fine.

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I'm getting draw thread bound somehow

sturdy coral Dec 4, 2019, 10:37 PM

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@sly elk#79 many have said these help with comfort: https://www.reddit.com/r/ValveIndex/comments/c8oghr/big_hands_problem_solved_valve_has_a_3d_printable/

Big hands problem solved!! Valve has a 3d printable stl file calle...

Posted in r/ValveIndex by u/mikeski21 • 567 points and 200 comments

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did they actually say they hurt due to haptics? maybe it was two separate issues

tired tree Dec 4, 2019, 10:50 PM

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I have a pair of those adapters ony knuckles, helps a ton

pallid pewter Dec 4, 2019, 10:54 PM

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Just a quick VR question, any way to completly lock off oculus home? Or atleast limit its abilities? Need to completly lock off access to the desktop for a project for a client

sturdy coral Dec 4, 2019, 10:58 PM

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@pallid pewter I think you have to pay for a pro

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for "kiosk mode"

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that may only apply to quest though

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err not pro, I think it is called business edition

pallid pewter Dec 4, 2019, 11:06 PM

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See id need this for the standard rift...

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Kiosk seems to be for the go..

sly elk Dec 4, 2019, 11:19 PM

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@sturdy coral yeah they said the haptics were making their hands hurt or something

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i was thinking of having an FFB strength option but honestly it seems kind of unnecessary

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we fire a lot of haptic events when using tools, but thats because I really like haptics and think they add a lot

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each ratchet click, there is an effect for power tools when you pull the trigger, etc

sturdy coral Dec 4, 2019, 11:21 PM

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yeah I don't think they are particularly strong on index vs normal vive wands

polar hazel Dec 5, 2019, 2:00 AM

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any idea how to remove frame rate limit to see what performance impact stuff has?

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I am stuck at my hmd refresh rate

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I am guessing it's running vsync

tame thistle Dec 5, 2019, 3:37 AM

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UE4.24, has anyone had problems with a packaged project not exporting the SteamVR Input config?

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Even after regenerating, it's not included in the packaged project so ofc nothing works.

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It's only happening to one of the six projects I've migrated to 4.24 so far :/

feral bloom Dec 5, 2019, 3:44 AM

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Anyone deployed the FaceARSample without a mac?

brisk spade Dec 5, 2019, 5:24 AM

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are there any established menu concepts when the user only has one button to interact with the environment? when to fade the menu in and out. User looks on the ground for some time?

little scaffold Dec 5, 2019, 8:50 AM

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@polar hazel you can use t.maxfps but not sure if that works correctly in VR

polar hazel Dec 5, 2019, 8:58 AM

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I have t.maxfps at 0

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still locked

little scaffold Dec 5, 2019, 9:12 AM

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then I'm afraid I can't help you more sorry..

willow trail Dec 5, 2019, 10:43 AM

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Hello, I got a big VR demo to do tomorrow morning, and all of a sudden all my Index controls stopped working. The controllers are there but none of my inputs do anything

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I've did the whole regenerate manifest thing...etc, but I can't access to the SteamVR bindings though

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https://i.imgur.com/c4KrqfS.png

Imgur

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Any idea?

feral bloom Dec 5, 2019, 10:53 AM

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in editor or in build?

willow trail Dec 5, 2019, 10:53 AM

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In editor

feral bloom Dec 5, 2019, 10:54 AM

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Hmm, you opened up that remapping page through steam vr?

willow trail Dec 5, 2019, 10:54 AM

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Through UE directly https://i.imgur.com/bVJLB35.png

Imgur

feral bloom Dec 5, 2019, 10:55 AM

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And when you say cant access the bindings, they dont appear?

willow trail Dec 5, 2019, 10:55 AM

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I can't find the application in the regular SteamVR menu

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The page just 404's

feral bloom Dec 5, 2019, 10:56 AM

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Hmm thats weird. Try open through steam vr and see if it does the same

willow trail Dec 5, 2019, 10:56 AM

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In my case it opens localhost:8998/dashboard/controllerbinding.html?app=application.generated.ue.itb_hager.ue4editor.exe, and firefox just says it can't access it

feral bloom Dec 5, 2019, 10:56 AM

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Ah right

willow trail Dec 5, 2019, 10:56 AM

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Through steamVR (not the web dashboard) it works, it does open the panel, but the application (current project PIE) doesn't show

feral bloom Dec 5, 2019, 10:57 AM

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Sorry I dont have any ideas apart from rebooting the project, removing the plugin and reenabling and rebooting pc.

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I have had similar stuff happen before but one of the above usually fixes it

willow trail Dec 5, 2019, 10:58 AM

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I'll try that, thanks

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Couldn't make it work

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Tried disabling/reenabling the plugin, restarting steam, rebooting

mild trail Dec 5, 2019, 12:37 PM

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So I have installed Airserver on my PC in order to try and cast from my Oculus Quest to my PC. In my phone app I choose cast from: Quest. Cast to: PCname but then after a few seconds it comes up with an error - something with "unknown error, make sure your casting receiver is on and ready to connect and then try again, restart the reciever if it doesent help" Any ideas?

willow trail Dec 5, 2019, 1:00 PM

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2 hours and not a single bit of progress 😦 If anyone has any sort of clue why controls just suddenly stop working I'd be very thankful, I'm all out of ideas

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And posting an issue on the SteamVR Plugin now is too late, there's still work to be done and 12 clients coming tomorrow early morning...

tired tree Dec 5, 2019, 1:07 PM

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the generated manifest id is different from the editor launch to a packaged one

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though it should preserve the input bindings from the json files

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you have to make sure that the packaged one is using defaults and not some override in your profile

willow trail Dec 5, 2019, 1:09 PM

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I'm not even packaging the game

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It stopped working in editor altogether

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I've had some serious issues trying to package (some of which you helped me with), but for now since it's constantly in development and I'm changing assets on the fly on an hourly basis between demos I do all of them in editor

tired tree Dec 5, 2019, 1:15 PM

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on the same computer? yeah it shouldn't have issues then between demos

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and you said you could get the bindings interface up in steam and everything was fine in there?

willow trail Dec 5, 2019, 1:15 PM

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Yes it shows up in steam

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But not with the UE4 demo

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It just shows generic "Editor" and not any of my custom bindings I set in editor

willow trail Dec 5, 2019, 1:47 PM

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I fixed my issue with input not working, some other actor was auto receiving input, and "any key" if set to consume also consume every other non-key input

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Dashboard still doesn't work though 🤷‍♂️

tawdry dragon Dec 5, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Hey guys. I have an issue. I have an ARKit app that gets rejected from AppStore because it has the TrueDepth APIs integrated, but I'm not using it anywhere.. Can you disable the TrueDepth without disabling the ARKit plugin it self?

blissful bear Dec 5, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Fixed in 4.24
https://issues.unrealengine.com/issue/UE-83416

mighty carbon Dec 5, 2019, 3:10 PM

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I wonder when they are going to release 4.24

tired tree Dec 5, 2019, 3:40 PM

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the answer is "too soon"

blissful bear Dec 5, 2019, 4:29 PM

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@tired tree Hi. I just pulled VRExpPluginExample 4.24work branch and now get a 'Steam is disabled. Some features may not be available' overlay when I run VR preview. It says 'Failed to load input bindings for Virtual Reality BP Game Template-10387632 [UE Editor]. Please select another binding option.'
Things we working fine until all this Steam input malarky. I have an original Vive and motion controllers.

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I ran the steam client and let it update. Trying VR Preview then worked and works even without the steam client running. I wonder if it needed a one-time connection to it...

ember forum Dec 5, 2019, 4:43 PM

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@brisk spade on rec room

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you have a watch

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that you look at to show the menu

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and when you look away it goes away

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or rather, move your watch out of focus with your watch hand/wrist

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its a very specific motion, of twisting your wrist that way, so its hard to trigger that accidentally

faint quiver Dec 5, 2019, 4:48 PM

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Howdy all, just a quick question. I'm wanting to test projects for VR and was curious what videos you would suggest watching to help me?

tired tree Dec 5, 2019, 5:21 PM

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@blissful bear yeah....it has to use the packaged profiles now

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had to add them to the template

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its going to be annoying changing any keys in that though

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it will re-write the bindings every time you change one and its not auto mapping correctly to the thumbstick

blissful bear Dec 5, 2019, 5:38 PM

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I'll be on the look out for the extra complications. Thanks.

nimble edge Dec 5, 2019, 5:48 PM

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@ember forum & @brisk spade And that interaction in rec room is a nightmare for little bodies. My daughter's arms can't go out far enough to make the menu work properly. It's an exercise in frustration every time she tries.

nimble edge Dec 5, 2019, 6:07 PM

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Does anyone know why I'm getting about 72fps on the blank startup map in VR (plane, sky-sphere, directional light)? It's definitely not a hardware problem.

mighty carbon Dec 5, 2019, 6:10 PM

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what HMD ?

nimble edge Dec 5, 2019, 6:10 PM

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Index

mighty carbon Dec 5, 2019, 6:10 PM

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🤷

nimble edge Dec 5, 2019, 6:11 PM

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If I create a VR template project and then recreate the same thing as the blank map I'm at a solid 144

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I have a level I've built from the "blank" template. 72fps. Migrate it to a different project that was created as a VR template. Same Level: 144hz

ember forum Dec 5, 2019, 6:35 PM

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thats a question that could have a million answers but the right answer is to measure performance, use stats to see the differences, but my guess is dynamic lighting on your directional lightsource...

nimble edge Dec 5, 2019, 6:45 PM

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If I migrate the level to a project based off the Blank template: 72hz. Migrate to a VR template project 144hz. There's something Engine side...

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Every single thing is the same, except the starter template/project.

daring pasture Dec 5, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Forward rendering?

ember forum Dec 5, 2019, 6:58 PM

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forward rendering is enabled on the project itself

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you wouldnt have deffered in 1 map, and forward in another(as far as i know)

sturdy coral Dec 5, 2019, 6:59 PM

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@ember forum the vr template sets scalability settings

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look at the scalability .inis

ember forum Dec 5, 2019, 6:59 PM

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he doesnt even mean vr template

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he means the vr template map

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when you create a new level

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sturdy coral Dec 5, 2019, 7:00 PM

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ah sorry wrong mention, meant @nimble edge

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ok yeah didn't realize that

ember forum Dec 5, 2019, 7:00 PM

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actually now that oyu mention it, im not sure as well (if he means map or project) lol.. but now he has all these comments

sturdy coral Dec 5, 2019, 7:01 PM

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look at the scalability.ini between the different projects, it turns off all kinds of stuff

nimble edge Dec 5, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Thanks, I'll go check the scalability inis. Probably not the best use of my time.

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But I can't help myself

sturdy coral Dec 5, 2019, 7:02 PM

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I think stuff like ambient occlusion may be disabled through that instead of through the post process volume in the vr template

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turning off ssao, ssr, fringe, and several other things can save you more than 2x on a simple scene I think

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there may be other stuff changed through defaultengine.ini as well with the vr template, can't remember

nimble edge Dec 5, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Bingo, thanks.

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DefaultScalability.ini is all the difference.

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[AntiAliasingQuality@0]
r.PostProcessAAQuality=0

[AntiAliasingQuality@1]
r.PostProcessAAQuality=2

[AntiAliasingQuality@2]
r.PostProcessAAQuality=3

[AntiAliasingQuality@3]
r.PostProcessAAQuality=3

;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[PostProcessQuality@0]
r.MotionBlurQuality=0
r.AmbientOcclusionLevels=0
r.LensFlareQuality=0
r.SceneColorFringeQuality=0
r.DepthOfFieldQuality=0
r.BloomQuality=1
r.FastBlurThreshold=0

[PostProcessQuality@1]
r.MotionBlurQuality=0
r.AmbientOcclusionLevels=0
r.LensFlareQuality=0
r.SceneColorFringeQuality=0
r.DepthOfFieldQuality=0
r.BloomQuality=1
r.FastBlurThreshold=0

[PostProcessQuality@2]
r.MotionBlurQuality=0
r.AmbientOcclusionLevels=0
r.LensFlareQuality=0
r.SceneColorFringeQuality=0
r.DepthOfFieldQuality=0
r.BloomQuality=1
r.FastBlurThreshold=0

[PostProcessQuality@3]
r.MotionBlurQuality=0
r.AmbientOcclusionLevels=0
r.LensFlareQuality=0
r.SceneColorFringeQuality=0
r.DepthOfFieldQuality=0
r.BloomQuality=1
r.FastBlurThreshold=0

;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[TextureQuality@0]
r.MaxAnisotropy=0

[TextureQuality@1]
r.MaxAnisotropy=2

[TextureQuality@2]
r.MaxAnisotropy=4

[TextureQuality@3]
r.MaxAnisotropy=8

;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[EffectsQuality@0]
r.TranslucencyVolumeBlur=0
r.TranslucencyLightingVolumeDim=4
r.SceneColorFormat=2
r.SSR.Quality=0

[EffectsQuality@1]
r.TranslucencyVolumeBlur=0
r.TranslucencyLightingVolumeDim=4
r.SceneColorFormat=2
r.SSR.Quality=0

[EffectsQuality@2]
r.TranslucencyVolumeBlur=0
r.TranslucencyLightingVolumeDim=4
r.SceneColorFormat=2
r.SSR.Quality=0

[EffectsQuality@3]
r.TranslucencyVolumeBlur=0
r.TranslucencyLightingVolumeDim=4
r.SceneColorFormat=2
r.SSR.Quality=0```

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Oh, crud, sorry, I thought that would be collapsed.

brisk spade Dec 5, 2019, 7:12 PM

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@ember forum so a working example would me move the control in front of the hmd to make menu visible

nimble edge Dec 5, 2019, 7:15 PM

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Here's one similar concept I mocked up awhile ago, @brisk spade :
https://twitter.com/rileyflorence0/status/1035356063959277568?s=20

Riley Florence (@rileyflorence0)

Here's a 3rd person view that's easier to follow. https://t.co/HdzArdb53Y

▶ Play video

brisk spade Dec 5, 2019, 7:15 PM

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I think looking at a watch is too complicated for my users

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They want it as simple and straightforward as possible

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The don't know where the shoulder button on the controller is

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Wow that looks fantastic :)

nimble edge Dec 5, 2019, 7:17 PM

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The target demographic and use case totally makes a difference. For the enterprise stuff I build I have to keep things suuuuper simple, and lots of redundancy.

brisk spade Dec 5, 2019, 7:17 PM

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How do you make sure it doesn't open accidentally

nimble edge Dec 5, 2019, 7:18 PM

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This one I didn't worry about it. It was just a mock-up. But I'd probably put a little timer on it

brisk spade Dec 5, 2019, 7:19 PM

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So maybe holding the hands flat open handed for some seconds and then the menu is visible. If I wanna make it super robust

nimble edge Dec 5, 2019, 7:19 PM

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Yep

brisk spade Dec 5, 2019, 7:20 PM

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It's a super slow application teleport to a spot do sth teleport to the next spot do sth and so on. Mainly listening and solving a simple task

crystal oak Dec 5, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Do we have away to make UMGComponents draw on both sides?

nimble edge Dec 5, 2019, 8:01 PM

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If you turn on Two-Sided in the BP it will have a black back. You can edit the material and make it kind of anything you want.

mighty carbon Dec 5, 2019, 8:01 PM

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it's interesting how UI/UX hasn't evolved, even in VR

ember forum Dec 5, 2019, 8:17 PM

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if the material is 2 sided tho, it might be flipped(if its like text) if its on the opposite side, you can make it rotate towards the camera in the material itself tho.. that way no matter how ever many players look at it, it always faces them on their end.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCE-7Y8WfX8 @crystal oak

YouTube

UnrealSimon

Face camera via Material (without Particle System)

Material Network to connect to WORLD POSITION OFFSET: http://pastebin.com/hkqkkJ9j

▶ Play video

crystal oak Dec 5, 2019, 8:19 PM

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Yeah double sided does not work for UMG rendering and face the cam is not what im after, i want to flip it

ember forum Dec 5, 2019, 8:19 PM

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set the material to two sided then

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which is what Riley said i guess

crystal oak Dec 5, 2019, 8:23 PM

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Like i said, does not work.

nimble edge Dec 5, 2019, 9:00 PM

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📎 DoubleSidedUMG.mp4

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📎 coloredBackUMG.mp4

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The second one is done by tweaking the material thats used to render the UMG widget.

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It's an Engine Content material, so make a copy before you change it.

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@crystal oak You have these controls by default on a UMG widget.

📎 unknown.png

crystal oak Dec 5, 2019, 9:12 PM

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wth odd

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i tried both

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and neither worked

tired tree Dec 5, 2019, 9:42 PM

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@crystal oak it's on a standard widget comp and not a stereo one right?

crystal oak Dec 5, 2019, 9:42 PM

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Yeah

ember forum Dec 5, 2019, 11:05 PM

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anyone having issues using quest link, being too high🤪 and then having to unplug replug cable to reset height

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its happening like every other time i launch in vr preview

tribal totem Dec 6, 2019, 9:40 AM

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hello every one ,i have an issue reagarding the apk . i installed the apk which i deployed by unreal engine in quest using sidequest ,it installed in unknown source but not working
so any one who try this type of issue plzz help

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it is a app which we own created in unreal engine and followed all build process as per oculus guidelines

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my app is running in quest when i deploying it through unreal engine

carmine yoke Dec 6, 2019, 12:42 PM

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I've not used side quest, but in the package from ue4, theres an install batch file, if you install it that way does it still not run? @tribal totem and you say it runs when launching from the engine?

tribal totem Dec 6, 2019, 12:45 PM

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yes it runs

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when i lunch it into quest

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butwhen i add .apkfile into quest it daoesnt work

carmine yoke Dec 6, 2019, 12:47 PM

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try the batch file

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Could be something to do with sidequest, i've not used it

pallid pewter Dec 6, 2019, 1:25 PM

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Im using the VR Template and have made a knife to cut up a procedual mesh, (making a cooking game) how would i make each of the sliced parts of the mesh have the ability to be picked up seperatly??

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currently i can only pick up the most recently made mesh, even though im comparing the components position to the grab sphere and setting it to only attach the closest component to the hand..

rugged yacht Dec 6, 2019, 1:49 PM

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Hello all! quick question; Is there a way to test the node "Set Color Scale and Offset" which targets Oculus function library from another headset, lets say an HTC Vive?

mighty carbon Dec 6, 2019, 4:25 PM

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unlikely

sturdy coral Dec 6, 2019, 5:02 PM

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@rugged yacht probably can using revive

dark light Dec 6, 2019, 7:50 PM

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Hey guys! Not sure if this is the right place for it, but since AR/VR are close to Virtual Production... maybe someone can help? Basically I'm having trouble getting live inputs (a simple webcam) to work in Unreal Engine via media player (with a mediatexture assigned). Does anyone here have any experience with it?
it looks like I need to initialize the camera device or something but I'm not sure how to do that.

sturdy coral Dec 6, 2019, 11:22 PM

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@sturdy canyon seeing any uptick after sale of Medium to Adobe?

sturdy canyon Dec 6, 2019, 11:23 PM

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I had one rando join my discord and ask if SculptrVR is a good replacement

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My most recent review on Quest from 15 hours ago (12 hours before the medium announcement) was 5 stars and the text: “Oculus please bring medium to the quest”

sturdy coral Dec 6, 2019, 11:34 PM

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Hah, well I picked it up, didn’t realize you had multiplayer

dusky moon Dec 7, 2019, 11:19 AM

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the only exciting thing with adobe buying medium for me is possibility of combining it with substance painter

dusky moon Dec 7, 2019, 12:31 PM

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any1 used hair rendering in 4.24 in VR ? wondering how expensive it is

granite jacinth Dec 8, 2019, 1:56 AM

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Actually still surprised about this

📎 unknown.png

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📎 unknown.png

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Interested in this bit, anyone know anything about it?

short aspen Dec 8, 2019, 6:10 AM

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Does any one know of any vr inventory system tutorials or assets? I have a normal inventory but i am trying to implement vr so i would like the player to be able to open the inventory and be able to reach and grab the item that they want out of the inventory. I see plenty of examples for unity but nothing for unreal

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something as simple as linked would work for me if some one would be so kind as to point me in the right direction to get started

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uzxt0uyOFY

YouTube

Kyle Frick

VR Simple inventory

if you're interested in my upcoming VR room escape check out my patreon https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11404561

▶ Play video

mighty carbon Dec 8, 2019, 3:56 PM

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@granite jacinth part of it is just probably typical behavior of modern days entitled gamers

odd garnet Dec 8, 2019, 4:20 PM

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yeah imo tbh play the game for yourself

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its a bit janky but does great stuff

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and is fun

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Ignore anything else other than your own opinion of the game

granite jacinth Dec 8, 2019, 5:17 PM

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Well, you saying it's a bit janky is putting me off already

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This is a team that had some serious financial and marketing backing from a decent sized publisher

devout bison Dec 8, 2019, 5:17 PM

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hi. would anyone have spare time and be interested in testing my game. i need som feedback

granite jacinth Dec 8, 2019, 5:17 PM

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Said publisher also said they helped with various technical aspects of the game

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So, I wonder if publisher had put any (or too much) pressure on the team and this was the result

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Basically most VR games are self-published, very few have ever been published by big guns (like this one) other than Oculus right AFAIK

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And IIRC Oculus doesn't really do much other than fund you.

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But whatever Oculus is doing, they are doing it right because their published games all turn out pretty damn good

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It's just one of those...damn I want to see a post-mortem... how was it working with a publisher for a VR game. Was it worth it or not in the end.

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@devout bison post in #looking-for-talent for a free tester

devout bison Dec 8, 2019, 5:22 PM

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aight

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thansk

odd garnet Dec 8, 2019, 6:56 PM

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So don't play it Victor lol

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If you think me saying its jank is saying "don't play it" then don't play it

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Yeah they had a lot of publishing help but obviously that doesn't always mean your publisher is good or good at their job

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The game is FARRR more complex than almost any other VR game

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and if you're going to pre judge them without even playing the game then like thats your own issue

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I really enjoyed the parts of the game I enjoyed

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I added voice detection myself because of how awesome it felt

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Looks at Oculus's published games that have near the bottom player counts

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Whatever Oculus is doing, they're doing it wrong lol

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70% of the VR Audience wont play Asgard's Wrath because of OC

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__

as for espire you KNOW they use VRE, and that pretty much at anytime you can join their discord / PM/DM them

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ANYWAY, look I made a holoception ability

📎 ReMadeHoloception.mp4

past tiger Dec 8, 2019, 8:17 PM

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@odd garnet What is OC?

odd garnet Dec 8, 2019, 8:33 PM

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Oculus

cosmic shoal Dec 9, 2019, 8:12 AM

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Asgard's Wrath works fine on revive (WMR) I understand people hesitating to buy games at their store without an oculus since revive could stop working at any time. That is why I haven't bought anything, I had a promo code for this game.

odd garnet Dec 9, 2019, 9:52 AM

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not to mention revive eats 5-10% perf

cosmic shoal Dec 9, 2019, 9:53 AM

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I have a 980ti and it played great.

odd garnet Dec 9, 2019, 9:53 AM

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(still eats 5-10% perforamnce)

cosmic shoal Dec 9, 2019, 9:54 AM

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mixed reality portal + Oculus + SteamVR 🤦‍♂️

odd garnet Dec 9, 2019, 9:54 AM

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revive lol

cosmic shoal Dec 9, 2019, 9:54 AM

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yeah

mighty carbon Dec 9, 2019, 12:13 PM

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I have no issues buying on Oculus Store

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I bet if that day ever comes (Oculus closing doors) the hardware will become open platform

fading shore Dec 9, 2019, 1:08 PM

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does Volumetric Fog and lights works in 4.23 in VR ?

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any suggestions, pros and cons to use such things in VR

feral bloom Dec 9, 2019, 1:11 PM

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Think they work but you dont want to use them. Performance cost is huge.

fading shore Dec 9, 2019, 1:11 PM

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alternatives?

feral bloom Dec 9, 2019, 1:11 PM

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Cheat methods will get you 80% of the look

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Like a cone with a fog looking shader on it

fading shore Dec 9, 2019, 1:12 PM

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hand maked fake?

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thank you

feral bloom Dec 9, 2019, 1:18 PM

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No worries, I haven't tried anything for up close VR stuff but maybe this would work

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https://forums.unrealengine.com/filedata/fetch?id=1208707&d=1533251820

old olive Dec 9, 2019, 2:20 PM

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uargh folks.... I need help. Using SteamVR Input Plugin with 4.23 ... all my Input Action Mappings work correctly but I can't get Input Axis Mappings to work?? I did the "Add Sample Inputs" for the Vector2 input as described in the GitHub instructions, but a Print String on the Input Event just prints out 0

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📎 unknown.png

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📎 unknown.png

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must be an update issue with the plugin

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sweet! that was it! I can't believe Rebuilding the plugins after just straight up deleting the folder then adding the new one worked without changing anything else 😂

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Thanks, @old olive ! lol jk

mighty carbon Dec 9, 2019, 2:45 PM

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https://www.blendernation.com/2019/12/07/female-ue4-mannequin-blender-to-ue4-free-add-on-mr-mannequins-tools-v1-2/

BlenderNation

Jim Kroovy

Female UE4 Mannequin - Blender to UE4 - Free Add-on - Mr Mannequin...

Jim Kroovy writes: Hello, i want to thank everyone for the amazing feedback over the past couple of months! Mr Mannequins Tools (Gumroad, $0+) now comes with a female UE4 mannequin! As well as more support for custom characters and big plans for the future. Check out the vide...

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nice

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and 4.24 is out too

old olive Dec 9, 2019, 2:48 PM

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release? I still only see preview 4

mighty carbon Dec 9, 2019, 2:51 PM

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https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Support/Builds/ReleaseNotes/4_24/index.html

Unreal Engine 4.24 Release Notes

Release notes for Unreal Engine 4.24

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https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/announcements-and-releases/1695917-unreal-engine-4-24-released

Unreal Engine Forums

4.24 now available to download

As you may have heard, with this release, we’re retiring Unreal Studio and folding all of its features into Unreal Engine—for free. Unreal Engine is now your one-stop solution, whether you’re working in game development, architecture, fi...

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I am guessing VTs are not yet supported on Android ?

old olive Dec 9, 2019, 3:03 PM

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uuunnnnghhhhh so many new features

mighty carbon Dec 9, 2019, 3:04 PM

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not whole a lot for VR

tired tree Dec 9, 2019, 3:12 PM

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well considering they redid the entire input side of VR in this one

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and openXR is live in it

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pretty significant release for VR actually

frigid kite Dec 9, 2019, 3:25 PM

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And raytracing support?

nimble edge Dec 9, 2019, 3:37 PM

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I'm trying to build my own grab system for a project. I don't need a lot of what VRExpansion provides. I just want a grab system with "fixed grabs" and "relative grabs" as well as world collisions for held objects. I'm using a physics constraint and everything is almost working, however, I'm getting some major Physics Explosion issues if my motion controller goes into the colliding objects. Any ideas how to mitigate this?

📎 jitterfest.mp4

frigid kite Dec 9, 2019, 3:38 PM

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The problem is that grabbing is inherently complicated - personally I would just opt to use VRE instead

tired tree Dec 9, 2019, 3:43 PM

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your constraint is reprojecting from initial grab position

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you need to make sure it is a soft constraint and play with the stiffness and damping

nimble edge Dec 9, 2019, 3:45 PM

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Thanks, I'll play with Stiffness and Damping some more.

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Another project I'm working on is using VRE. My grabs are all set up as "keep relative offset" type grabs. If I want the object's origin to snap to the origin of the motion controller when picked up, how would I go about doing that?

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📎 unknown.png

tired tree Dec 9, 2019, 3:51 PM

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pass in an empty transform

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with IsAlreadyRelative ticked

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the transform is the relative transform of the object to the controller, an identity transform will be origin to origin

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its a transform specifically because it lets the user do whatever they want regarding position

nimble edge Dec 9, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Ah, perfect.

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I had to maintain the scale, otherwise it went wacky shack

📎 unknown.png

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But that is just what I needed, thanks.

dusky moon Dec 9, 2019, 3:56 PM

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4.24 out! time to wait forever for Substance plugin to come out for it 💀

mighty carbon Dec 9, 2019, 4:09 PM

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Time to wait for Oculus integration 😛

wild seal Dec 9, 2019, 5:26 PM

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Speaking of 4.24, is anyone else having issues with steam vr crashing?

tired tree Dec 9, 2019, 5:36 PM

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@wild seal with MSAA enabled?

wild seal Dec 9, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Using default aa. It's related to the input bindings. I'm working with windows mixed reality and it seems that they changed the generic motion controller inputs to per device inputs.

tired tree Dec 9, 2019, 5:52 PM

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yeah, it shouldn't be causing actual crashes though

wild seal Dec 9, 2019, 5:55 PM

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Assertion failed: Key.IsValid() [File:D:/Build/++UE4/Sync/Engine/Source/Runtime/Slate/Private/Framework/Application/SlateApplication.cpp] [Line: 5543]

UE4Editor.exe has triggered a breakpoint.

dusky moon Dec 9, 2019, 6:19 PM

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One thing I read about 4.24 seems like you should disable steamvr input plugin as its built in now. not sure if thats the case

wild seal Dec 9, 2019, 6:30 PM

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That'll disable get bounds from the steam vr chaperone in BP_KMotionController. Still crashes anyways. I'll try a clean project and see if that helps.

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No luck. Crashing on an empty VR project.

mighty carbon Dec 9, 2019, 6:46 PM

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https://www.oculus.com/blog/thumbs-up-hand-tracking-now-available-on-oculus-quest/

Thumbs Up: Hand Tracking Available on Oculus Quest This Week

From gesturing and communicating with others to picking up and manipulating objects, our hands play an important role in how we interact with the world—and they’re key to unlocking the feeling of true presence in a virtual space. We first brought your hands into VR with O...

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hand tracking on Quest is available NOW!

tired tree Dec 9, 2019, 6:59 PM

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@dusky moon yeah its built in

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@wild seal yeah the one device I didn't test 4.24 on in preview was WMR

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there were original issues with other steam vr headsets in the previews

nimble edge Dec 9, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Anyone have hands on experience with the Rift S?

sturdy coral Dec 9, 2019, 7:22 PM

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@wild seal it crashes for me on latest steamvr beta, rolling back to steamvr stable fixed it

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that was on last preview though, haven't retested final release

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the depth submission stuff crashed for me some too, not sure if that was ever fixed. there is a cvar to turn it off but I still got a crash with that and had to add:

diff --git a/Engine/Plugins/Runtime/Steam/SteamVR/Source/SteamVR/Private/SteamVRRender.cpp b/Engine/Plugins/Runtime/Steam/SteamVR/Source/SteamVR/Private/SteamVRRender.cpp
index ff548bf377c..f5ccca81691 100644
--- a/Engine/Plugins/Runtime/Steam/SteamVR/Source/SteamVR/Private/SteamVRRender.cpp
+++ b/Engine/Plugins/Runtime/Steam/SteamVR/Source/SteamVR/Private/SteamVRRender.cpp
@@ -151,7 +151,12 @@ bool FSteamVRHMD::BridgeBaseImpl::Present(int& SyncInterval)



        // Increment swap chain index post-swap.
        SwapChain->IncrementSwapChainIndex_RHIThread();
-       DepthSwapChain->IncrementSwapChainIndex_RHIThread();
+       // TODO vulkan should always be false!
+       bool bSubmitDepth = CVarEnableDepthSubmission->GetInt() > 0;
+       if (bSubmitDepth)
+       {
+               DepthSwapChain->IncrementSwapChainIndex_RHIThread();
+       }

        return true;
 }```

(not sure if needed in final yet)

eternal inlet Dec 9, 2019, 7:55 PM

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guys, any of you strong with transforms and spaces in BP, that can show me how to take a transform in one bonespace and convert into a transform in another bonespace?

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specifically i have a yaw value from a headbone that i wish to apply to a spine_03 bone's yaw

wild seal Dec 9, 2019, 8:05 PM

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@sturdy coral I'm having crashes with steam vr 1.8.21. Which version are you running?

sturdy coral Dec 9, 2019, 8:07 PM

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1.9.7, I didn't have crashes on stable

wild seal Dec 9, 2019, 8:16 PM

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I tried with 1.9.7, still crashing. Submitted a bug report.

tired jolt Dec 9, 2019, 9:12 PM

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what are peoples thoughts when it comes to raytracing and VR?

mighty carbon Dec 9, 2019, 9:14 PM

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no bueno

sturdy coral Dec 9, 2019, 9:17 PM

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it will solve all the screenspace issues with disparity on AO, and be a big improvement on SSR, but I don't know if the perf is there

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RTAO also doesn't work in VR yet

wicked oak Dec 9, 2019, 9:45 PM

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@sturdy coral it does

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or so they say on 4.24 patch notes

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gotta try it

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they specifically say that rays now work on multiview and vr

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and RTAO should run on vr alright

mighty carbon Dec 9, 2019, 9:56 PM

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2080 Ti min probably, on low quality

cosmic shoal Dec 9, 2019, 10:02 PM

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Steam November hardware usage NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 0.07%, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 0.06% 💩

sturdy coral Dec 9, 2019, 10:17 PM

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@wicked oak they've got this in there still:

        const bool bApplyRTAO = ShouldRenderRayTracingAmbientOcclusion(View) && Views.Num() == 1; //#dxr_todo: enable RTAO in multiview mode```

wicked oak Dec 9, 2019, 10:19 PM

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god dammit

spare yew Dec 10, 2019, 10:17 AM

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Ah great, basic functionality for AR getting backlogged... I guess Epic don't care much for AR anymore

https://issues.unrealengine.com/issue/UE-85146

brisk spade Dec 10, 2019, 11:20 AM

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any reason why motion controller just simply wont be visible in a project?

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i have 5 builts all identical except the maps 2 work 2 dont

mighty carbon Dec 10, 2019, 12:11 PM

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@spare yew Well, it's Google that doesn't care for UE4

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ARKit is up to date

spare yew Dec 10, 2019, 12:44 PM

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@mighty carbon I know Google isn't keeping the plugin up to date but this is a recent bug that's occurred in 4.23/4.24, I submitted it only a week or two ago and it's already backlogged.

mighty carbon Dec 10, 2019, 12:44 PM

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🤷

feral bloom Dec 10, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Has there been any Ikinema updates lately?

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What have people switched over to?

feral bloom Dec 10, 2019, 3:31 PM

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How is it legal to sell a perpetual (defined as never ending/changing) license and then revoke them?

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mighty carbon Dec 10, 2019, 4:00 PM

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power of Apple

pine nimbus Dec 10, 2019, 4:07 PM

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Only got rendering in right eye after 4.24 update, any tips? (Vive)

willow trail Dec 10, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Also getting the StreamVRInput crash, anyone found a fix?

pine nimbus Dec 10, 2019, 4:33 PM

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@feral bloom The hell, yeah that doesn't sound right so you bought a license and then it was revoked? There's gotta be more to the story

willow trail Dec 10, 2019, 4:33 PM

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@pine nimbus Gotta head out, but you're not using custom stencil shader are you?

pine nimbus Dec 10, 2019, 4:34 PM

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Nah I'm not

willow trail Dec 10, 2019, 4:34 PM

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No idea then sorry 🤷‍♂️ Had that issue the other day, but was very specific

pine nimbus Dec 10, 2019, 4:34 PM

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And you have one black eye in VR?

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I'm using custom depth in the post process material

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I'll turn it off and see

willow trail Dec 10, 2019, 4:35 PM

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Yeah

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Only the right one

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And also using transparent material with stencil tests

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or something

pine nimbus Dec 10, 2019, 4:35 PM

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Duude. That was indeed it

willow trail Dec 10, 2019, 4:35 PM

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Yeah really gotta go but if that solves it, my only solution was to play around with some random setting until it works

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I made a bug report somewhere

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Defo not a solid solution out there that I saw, don't remember which setting either

pine nimbus Dec 10, 2019, 4:36 PM

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Alright, I'm not even doing anything complex with it, hmm. Thanks that's saved me a bunch of time, I can live without it for now

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If you link to your bug report I can upvote it

willow trail Dec 10, 2019, 4:36 PM

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Mate no worries, lost an afternoon to it

pine nimbus Dec 10, 2019, 4:37 PM

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Well I hope it's something easy for Epic to fix

sly elk Dec 10, 2019, 6:43 PM

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anyone try GTAO in vr yet?

mighty carbon Dec 10, 2019, 6:44 PM

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isn't it for consoles only @sly elk ?

sly elk Dec 10, 2019, 6:44 PM

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says consoles and windows on the trello notes

mighty carbon Dec 10, 2019, 6:44 PM

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right, but it's only in the console's release notes, not in publicly published release notes

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https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/announcements-and-releases/1695917-unreal-engine-4-24-released?p=1695974#post1695974

Unreal Engine Forums

4.24 now available to download

As you may have heard, with this release, we’re retiring Unreal Studio and folding all of its features into Unreal Engine—for free. Unreal Engine is now your one-stop solution, whether you’re working in game development, architecture, fi...

sly elk Dec 10, 2019, 6:49 PM

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thanks for the info 😦

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we are trying to switch from taa to fxaa and jim was going to dig into making the dither stop happening with unreals ssao, i was hoping this would be a low effort solution

granite jacinth Dec 10, 2019, 7:04 PM

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https://store.steampowered.com/app/823500/BONEWORKS/ not doing so well

Steam

BONEWORKS

BONEWORKS Is a narrative VR action adventure using advanced experimental physics mechanics. Dynamically navigate through environments, engage in physics heavy combat, and creatively approach puzzles with physics. Advanced Physics: Designed entirely for consistent universal r...

Price

$29.99

▶ Play video

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nice numbers though

sturdy canyon Dec 10, 2019, 7:15 PM

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Wow lots of WMR users

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That’s unexpected

mighty carbon Dec 10, 2019, 7:37 PM

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no teleportation 😦

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I guess they are serving a niche market with this one

cosmic shoal Dec 10, 2019, 7:38 PM

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"Dynamically navigate through environments" from the video many of the mechanics would not work well with Teleport, it looks like it needs strong stomach.

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looks fun tho

sly elk Dec 10, 2019, 7:43 PM

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They do a lot of stuff that looks hard on the stomach. Swinging from crowbars etc

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Also when we were setting up physics/collisions in wrench we tried a hand method similar to theirs but I personally find the VR hands decoupling from my real hand placement super off putting. It was especially bad when trying to pick up something super heavy when the object doesn't lift quickly.

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which is why we added ghost hands

cosmic shoal Dec 10, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Things I can't stomach: smooth rotation. (like rotating with a button or joystick instead of my head) and sudden elevation changes.

sly elk Dec 10, 2019, 7:50 PM

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What about snap turn?

wicked oak Dec 10, 2019, 7:52 PM

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it just looks as a crazy overhyped tech demo

granite jacinth Dec 10, 2019, 8:12 PM

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I am surprised they didn't cater to a wider market

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They sure as hell had enough time and money

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and also, how are you going to have these random day one issues with hardware

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If they didn't test it (for xyz reasons) then don't just randomly add "WMR"

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Some of these devs...killing me man

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Have all this funding, PR/Marketing...

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Yet they do the dumbest things

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If I can, as a solo-dev target and test the various HMDs...those guys should have had it done 10x easier

sudden fiber Dec 10, 2019, 8:21 PM

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did you buy or borrow to test?

granite jacinth Dec 10, 2019, 8:42 PM

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@sudden fiber ?

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wmr?

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I have every single HMD

sudden fiber Dec 10, 2019, 8:42 PM

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oh dang

granite jacinth Dec 10, 2019, 8:42 PM

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As a VR dev you should also

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Get it for free or buy it if needed

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But, I do admit, I get quite a bit for free

sudden fiber Dec 10, 2019, 8:43 PM

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free is always preferable haha

mighty carbon Dec 10, 2019, 8:55 PM

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@granite jacinth that's where all the money went https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/e8w094/in_boneworks_if_you_get_close_enough_to_the_crt/

In BONEWORKS, if you get close enough to the CRT TV's you can see ...

Posted in r/oculus by u/Lysergiix • 28 points and 3 comments

sturdy canyon Dec 10, 2019, 9:09 PM

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lol that’s awesome

granite jacinth Dec 10, 2019, 9:11 PM

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heh

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It is cool, but yeah...they seem to have spent time in random places

sonic tide Dec 10, 2019, 9:28 PM

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so they deprecated all the current motion controller events?

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Okay so whenever I use a motion controller event, this happens:

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and this is the warning

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daring pasture Dec 10, 2019, 9:35 PM

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I believe you are required to make action mappings now, rather than calling a key directly

sonic tide Dec 10, 2019, 9:39 PM

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but aren't they already there?

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why else would they come up

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if not, does anyone know how to do that? i haven't done anything with action mappings

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nvm found it

frigid kite Dec 10, 2019, 9:52 PM

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To any EU person here with the Index, is it possible to avoid/reclaim VAT when buying as a company on Steam? I can't find any clear info on google

white fern Dec 10, 2019, 10:53 PM

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So my understanding is that you cannot use Unreal to make landscape (persistent world-space) apps for Magic Leap. Is this correct? Has anyone found a way to leverage UE4 for Landscape apps?

feral bloom Dec 10, 2019, 11:20 PM

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@pine nimbus Yeah. Seems Ikinema was bought by Apple and have revoked all indie licences. They aren't telling anyone why

tribal coral Dec 10, 2019, 11:23 PM

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What do you mean by Landscape Apps?

nimble edge Dec 11, 2019, 4:10 AM

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@white fern Are you talking about persistence like this?
https://developer.magicleap.com/learn/guides/persistence-snippet-unreal-engine

white fern Dec 11, 2019, 4:14 AM

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@nimble edge That's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks! I got confused because of this page, which shows Unity and Unreal only doing immersive apps https://developer.magicleap.com/learn/guides/develop-choose-platform

nimble edge Dec 11, 2019, 4:15 AM

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Good luck.

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I've never used that, by the way, so I'm no help beyond the link.

willow trail Dec 11, 2019, 7:58 AM

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Trying to move my project to 4.24 (hoping to see if Datasmith has been improved), but it crashes about 1 second after loading :

Assertion failed: Key.IsValid() [File:D:/Build/++UE4/Sync/Engine/Source/Runtime/Slate/Private/Framework/Application/SlateApplication.cpp] [Line: 5536]
...
UE4Editor_SteamVRInputDevice!FSteamVRInputDevice::ProcessActionEvents() [d:\build\++ue4\sync\engine\plugins\runtime\steam\steamvr\source\steamvrinputdevice\private\steamvrinputdevice.cpp:3636]
UE4Editor_SteamVRInputDevice!FSteamVRInputDevice::SendControllerEvents() [d:\build\++ue4\sync\engine\plugins\runtime\steam\steamvr\source\steamvrinputdevice\private\steamvrinputdevice.cpp:390]
UE4Editor_ApplicationCore!FWindowsApplication::PollGameDeviceState()
...

(https://pastebin.com/z4WaRRif)

Has anyone had that bug before?

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(Also @pine nimbus the bug report about the left eye going black https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/937922/view.html, playing around with the blendable location is what fixed it for me. Sometimes I randomly need to change it again to another value for it to work again 🤷‍♂️ )

willow trail Dec 11, 2019, 8:22 AM

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Interestingly enough, I also get that bug if I tell it to load without the SteamVR plugin (which I hear is now built-in anyway?) and to disable it

willow trail Dec 11, 2019, 10:16 AM

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The crash log already points towards it, but it's definitelyeh controller handling that fails. Turning my controllers off bypasses the problem. As soon as I turn one one, the editor crashed

frigid kite Dec 11, 2019, 10:21 AM

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How did the presentation go last week, @willow trail ?

willow trail Dec 11, 2019, 10:21 AM

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@frigid kite Haha, went flawlessly thank you

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11 first time users if I recall correctly

frigid kite Dec 11, 2019, 10:23 AM

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nice work 👌

willow trail Dec 11, 2019, 10:23 AM

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😉 👍

frigid kite Dec 11, 2019, 2:04 PM

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So, can anyone shed some light on this?

To any EU person here with the Index, is it possible to avoid/reclaim VAT when buying as a company on Steam? I can't find any clear info on google

willow trail Dec 11, 2019, 3:30 PM

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@frigid kite Can't help, no idea personally. We bought an Index through our company but didn't try to reclaim VAT sorry I can't help

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Have you tried contacting Valve directly?

frigid kite Dec 11, 2019, 3:33 PM

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I haven't, but from what I read on the Steam forums it takes quite long for support to respond and I don't have that much time

willow trail Dec 11, 2019, 3:34 PM

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@frigid kite Took a couple days for me last time I had to do it (regarding the Index)

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Otherwise all I can do is point you to ressources you've probably found, and mention the sort of administrative protocols I generally try to avoid 🤷‍♂️ https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/eu-vat-rules-topic/vat-refunds_en#section_2

Taxation and Customs Union - European Commission

VAT refunds - Taxation and Customs Union - European Commission

VAT refunds

frigid kite Dec 11, 2019, 3:59 PM

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Hmm alright :/ still hoping someone here happens to have done it

dusky moon Dec 11, 2019, 4:01 PM

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@frigid kite You mean you want an invoice from them which is VAT included to claim later ?!

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I also need it for my business as their receipt doesnt mention VAT. but yeah seems like you need to ask support

fleet plume Dec 11, 2019, 6:17 PM

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@tired tree i'am using your VivePawn (yes you warned ;)) and get the right thumbstick axis events mirrored to the left thumbstick axis binding i did in c++
is there anything you do in some nested BP in that pawn? i can't find anything ...

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the values are different between both thumbsticks, as if some scaling is applied

tired tree Dec 11, 2019, 6:20 PM

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@fleet plume check the input bindings, but what engine version are you doing this in? You'll have to drop that entire setup in 4.24

fleet plume Dec 11, 2019, 6:20 PM

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using 4.23.1

tired tree Dec 11, 2019, 6:21 PM

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i wouldn't bother if you plan to move to 4.24 ever

fleet plume Dec 11, 2019, 6:21 PM

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i checked the input binding, but can't find anything

tired tree Dec 11, 2019, 6:21 PM

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which you should, 4.23 was pretty bad

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but no there is no scaling, read that wrong, thought you meant it was inverted

fleet plume Dec 11, 2019, 6:21 PM

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and what do you mean with entire setup?

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not inverted, values when using physical right thumb are larger

tired tree Dec 11, 2019, 6:22 PM

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you won't be able to live change any motion controller bindings in 4.24 unless you call into the respective interfaces to regenerate action manifests

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that would be on the API/controller side then

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what controller you on

fleet plume Dec 11, 2019, 6:22 PM

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quest + link

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or do you mean the player controller?

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[/Script/Engine.InputSettings]
+AxisConfig=(AxisKeyName="MotionController_Left_Thumbstick_X",AxisProperties=(DeadZone=0.000000,Sensitivity=1.000000,Exponent=1.000000,bInvert=False))
+AxisConfig=(AxisKeyName="MotionController_Left_Thumbstick_Y",AxisProperties=(DeadZone=0.000000,Sensitivity=1.000000,Exponent=1.000000,bInvert=False))
+AxisConfig=(AxisKeyName="MotionController_Right_Thumbstick_X",AxisProperties=(DeadZone=0.000000,Sensitivity=1.000000,Exponent=1.000000,bInvert=False))
+AxisConfig=(AxisKeyName="MotionController_Right_Thumbstick_Y",AxisProperties=(DeadZone=0.000000,Sensitivity=1.000000,Exponent=1.000000,bInvert=False))

+AxisMappings=(AxisName="MotionControllerThumbLeft_Y",Scale=-1.000000,Key=MotionController_Left_Thumbstick_Y)
+AxisMappings=(AxisName="MotionControllerThumbLeft_X",Scale=1.000000,Key=MotionController_Left_Thumbstick_X)
+AxisMappings=(AxisName="MotionControllerThumbRight_Y",Scale=-1.000000,Key=MotionController_Right_Thumbstick_Y)
+AxisMappings=(AxisName="MotionControllerThumbRight_X",Scale=1.000000,Key=MotionController_Right_Thumbstick_X)

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PlayerInputComponent->BindAxis("MotionControllerThumbLeft_X", this, &ABuilderVRCharacter::LeftThumbstickX);
PlayerInputComponent->BindAxis("MotionControllerThumbLeft_Y", this, &ABuilderVRCharacter::LeftThumbstickY);

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there's not much that one can do wrong here

tired tree Dec 11, 2019, 6:52 PM

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yeah i didn't mean in the engine side @fleet plume

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it would be hardware / API

fleet plume Dec 11, 2019, 6:55 PM

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never touched any settings there besides enabling dev mode

tired tree Dec 11, 2019, 7:05 PM

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@fleet plume bind a new action to the same key and test values on that

fleet plume Dec 11, 2019, 7:06 PM

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will try that thanks

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there's something really funky going on here

granite jacinth Dec 11, 2019, 8:43 PM

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ddamn

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they turned that around

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Assuming the 10%ish rule. That's 20k+ sales in less than 24 hours

mighty carbon Dec 11, 2019, 8:48 PM

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how long that's going to last? A lot of people will get sick from the game, I am certain of it

tired tree Dec 11, 2019, 8:57 PM

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well thye also have a large warning to not buy or play if you can't handle motion sickness

wicked oak Dec 11, 2019, 9:09 PM

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20k sales for something as hyped as that? thats peanuts

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probably more than 20k tho

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tends to be more of a 2-3% review ratio

sturdy canyon Dec 11, 2019, 10:06 PM

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Early on the reviews are many. People like to review new releases

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But yeah probably 60k sales

mighty carbon Dec 11, 2019, 10:30 PM

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I wonder what the budget was (development and PR)

sturdy coral Dec 12, 2019, 1:51 AM

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I think way more than 20K sales, they had 7K+ people online playing

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(yesterday) and there were still around 5K playing at one point today

granite jacinth Dec 12, 2019, 2:23 AM

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@mighty carbon you don't know anything about them huh?

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Before they did gamedev they were a bunch of famous YTers

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Still are

tired tree Dec 12, 2019, 2:23 AM

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PR was pretty free for them lol

granite jacinth Dec 12, 2019, 2:23 AM

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They don't need a budget

tired tree Dec 12, 2019, 2:23 AM

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actually made them money

granite jacinth Dec 12, 2019, 2:23 AM

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They have their freakishly rabid following

tired tree Dec 12, 2019, 2:23 AM

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eh, their youtube has some good content

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no hate

granite jacinth Dec 12, 2019, 2:23 AM

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Meh

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Obviously it caters to some. A lot of people

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So their budget....

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They probably make more money via YT honestly

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But no clue how to quantify that as they probably won't ever release numbers on either side

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Their first game was a "commerical flop" according to them

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But I think it's because they make so much on YT and back then they had no clue

mighty carbon Dec 12, 2019, 2:28 AM

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I see

pearl tangle Dec 12, 2019, 2:33 AM

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anybody manage to get the hand tracking on quest yet to test out?

mighty carbon Dec 12, 2019, 2:36 AM

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nah

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people say it's good, but UX is shit

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(because Oculus UI wasn't designed for hands and it's awkward to interact with it without controllers )

pearl tangle Dec 12, 2019, 2:47 AM

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yeah more just curious to test out what quality is like. Only needs very basic interaction capabilities for navigating most stuff anyway. Better than using controllers for events

lapis yoke Dec 12, 2019, 4:56 AM

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Anyone here ship a VR game on Oculus with UE4? I'm need to pass their VRCs but can't get the pause game/unpause game stuff working when taking off the headset/bringing up the dash.

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I can get it to pause the game, but since the game is paused, there's nothing running to unpause it when the user puts their headset back on/closes the dash.

pearl tangle Dec 12, 2019, 5:23 AM

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@lapis yoke Why not just pull up a pause screen for them and then let them unpause it? You can disable certain things from gettig paused

lapis yoke Dec 12, 2019, 5:36 AM

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I have to hide/disable controllers when the game is paused too so there would be nothing for them to use to unpause it with a menu

frigid kite Dec 12, 2019, 7:52 AM

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people say it's good, but UX is shit
Yeah, you should just be able to touch the UI directly, instead of having to use the worst possible VR UI interaction, the laser pointer

willow trail Dec 12, 2019, 8:37 AM

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So Runeberg's SteamVR plugin is now integrated in the engine in 4.24? How do I access the content the plugin had (default pawn BP, hands and stuff)?

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I tried just moving the plugin over from 4.23, but the editor crashes as soon as I turn a controller on

frigid kite Dec 12, 2019, 8:42 AM

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I believe I read a few days ago in here that someone removed and readded the plugin in 4.24 and everything returned to a working state

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though I'm not 100% that it was the same scenario

willow trail Dec 12, 2019, 8:45 AM

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@frigid kite Honestly I think I just don't know where to look

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I used to see a couple folders for the plugin content in the content browser, but they're gone 🤷‍♂️

flat shoal Dec 12, 2019, 11:19 AM

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I'm dipping my toes in the baking lights for the first time ever

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we have a room with many spotlights in very close proximity, enough to go over the real-time overlap limit

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can we make those static, and then put, say, 1 point light that's movable on top of it and have that light up the player?

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or will that mess up the lighting in some way I don't know about yet?

frigid kite Dec 12, 2019, 11:22 AM

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The player will be lit by the volumetric light map @flat shoal

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If you keep them as stationary, they can also still cast dynamic shadows, if you like

flat shoal Dec 12, 2019, 11:27 AM

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I can't leave them as stationary since it's more than 4 and they all overlap

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but ok, I need to investigate volumetric light map... I hadn't added that to the scene last time I tried and the player was completely dark

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(except for the stationary skylight)

flat shoal Dec 12, 2019, 11:58 AM

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man, the light system in Unity is a whole lot more flexible than Unreal 😖

willow trail Dec 12, 2019, 12:16 PM

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@flat shoal It's up to you to "fake" it. Put some of them as static or just make the source emmisive and keep the dynamic ones to a minimum

pine nimbus Dec 12, 2019, 12:40 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/562411486719377428/654658079396200468/unknown.png

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After 4.24, none of my trackpad inputs work for Vive or Index, and the Steam Controller bindings doesn't seem to represent what I've set up in UE4 and there are things missing

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Is there any way to just drop using the binding system altogether, it's causing me so many problems

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Can I force UE4 to look for the motion controller inputs like hardware inputs for gamepad / mouse rather than going through Steam's bindings wrapper thing or however it works behind the scenes?

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For example, only the action mappings seem to be in the Bindings
But none of the Axis mappings
So I can't move in-game but I can interact with objects

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I have things missing and can't assign everything I'd need even if I could edit the bindings manually

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For example, Move Forward is missing

tired tree Dec 12, 2019, 1:11 PM

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@willow trail its integrated, but there are some key bind crashes happening in engine because of it currently

willow trail Dec 12, 2019, 1:13 PM

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@tired tree Hmm okay

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Do you know where I can find the content that was part of the plugin?

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All the template MC stuff

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@pine nimbus God damn, this also sounds familiar

tired tree Dec 12, 2019, 1:15 PM

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from the plugin still i assume

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that part isn't integrated

willow trail Dec 12, 2019, 1:15 PM

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Well perhaps not that problem exactly, I assume you're sure you've still set on the default bindings and have gone through all the plugin steps (regenerate manifest...etc)

tired tree Dec 12, 2019, 1:15 PM

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don't need to set default bindings

willow trail Dec 12, 2019, 1:15 PM

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@tired tree Hmm alright, I can't make the plugin work with 4.24 though

tired tree Dec 12, 2019, 1:15 PM

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those just spam up your actions list with ones that you may/may not need

willow trail Dec 12, 2019, 1:15 PM

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Also it's probably colliding with some of the integrated stuff

tired tree Dec 12, 2019, 1:16 PM

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just need to assign the correct keys everywhere

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the map and content should work

willow trail Dec 12, 2019, 1:19 PM

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@tired tree I wanna ask if there is any "clean" way for me to port a project that makes use of that content, I assume I just need to port the map properly and it might still reference the assets/blueprints relative to it properly, but then I get confused again about the fact that there seem to be multiple maps in my level at the same time

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Some objects in the scene are on a different "map" (whatever that means) that some of the others

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Those are probably key, foundational concepts of UE, but I've been using it for a while and could never find a decent answer online

tired tree Dec 12, 2019, 1:29 PM

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yeah its normal for that, although likely not intended that a demo level is setup like that?

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don't know too much about their project though, don't use it

wraith sky Dec 12, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Is that me? or preview of 4.24 had option to disable VR, and 4.24 has no...

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on project creation stage

sturdy coral Dec 12, 2019, 2:59 PM

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I had the same problems with MoveForward, you have to make the bindings end in _X and _Y I think

compact kettle Dec 12, 2019, 4:31 PM

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@pine nimbus Hey. DId you figure the Vive / Index issues out?

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We are having the same issue

mighty carbon Dec 12, 2019, 4:35 PM

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has anyone tried having Landscape on Quest ? (Es3.1 or Vulkan)

brisk spade Dec 12, 2019, 4:51 PM

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has someone worked with ndisplay`? to create sth like a cave experience?

mighty carbon Dec 12, 2019, 5:07 PM

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not unless you have access to those kind of displays, for testing

glass ginkgo Dec 12, 2019, 5:12 PM

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is it possible to load external video from sd card in android with just blueprints? this is to make something like cinema room VR

woeful sundial Dec 12, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Hi, about ARKit on iOS: nasty Screen Tearing bug since 4.23. Unusable for production. Did anyone get around this issue? (https://issues.unrealengine.com/issue/UE-81611) V-sync does not help

eternal inlet Dec 12, 2019, 5:35 PM

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im looking at options to replace my current ikinema solution. As far as i can tell, there are only few realistic options. I need advice.

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https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/slug/vr-ik-body

VR IK Body by Yuri N Kalinin in Code Plugins - UE4 Marketplace

VR IK Body Plugin is designed to evaluate body position from VR input.

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https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/slug/full-body-ik-plugin-for-vr

Full Body IK Plugin For VR by Anim IK in Code Plugins - UE4 Market...

AnimIK Plugin implements human full body IK for VR games in Unreal 4, with the functionality to work together with keyframed animations by blending data

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making a custom solution (but in BP, since i can't do cpp)

nimble edge Dec 12, 2019, 5:44 PM

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@eternal inlet You may want to look at this one: https://www.coopinnovations.co.uk/licensing/ikabod-2/

Cooperative Innovations

Simon

Ikabod | A powerful Unreal Engine plugin from Cooperative Innovations

A procedural, runtime animation tool that takes FABRIK & extends into a powerful Unreal Engine plugin. Full body Inverse Kinematics solved convincingly.

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Havent' used it, but it looks interesting

eternal inlet Dec 12, 2019, 5:45 PM

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@nimble edge yeah i talked to them about it, but then after an initial quote, i didn't hear back from them

nimble edge Dec 12, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Bummer

eternal inlet Dec 12, 2019, 5:45 PM

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also the price is sorta steep for my budget... it was several times more expensive than the two other options

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yeah

daring pasture Dec 12, 2019, 5:48 PM

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I have used both and prefer yuri's plugin over animik. It's more of a pain to set up, but to me it feels more accurate

eternal inlet Dec 12, 2019, 5:48 PM

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hmm, it looked better too, that was my impression

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thanks @daring pasture

daring pasture Dec 12, 2019, 5:50 PM

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No problem

tired tree Dec 12, 2019, 5:51 PM

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the Ikabod also lists their VR solution as FABRIK, which normally doesn't have joint limits unless its extended

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there are some extended FABRIK solutions with limits but they are less common

eternal inlet Dec 12, 2019, 5:52 PM

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right... good point @tired tree

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i would optimally prefer to code it myself actually, but ran into issues as soon as i started to work with different spaces... my head basically can't comprehend the math behind transforms in different spaces

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as a simple example: my head effector (the hmd) is passing componentspace transforms to the animBP

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the headbone gets that transform just fine np

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so the neck is also pretty straight forward

tired tree Dec 12, 2019, 5:54 PM

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@eternal inlet there is a great whitepaper on upper body IK with examples

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actually i linked that before didn't i

eternal inlet Dec 12, 2019, 5:55 PM

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but then the damn spine_03 seem to be rotated 90 deg and then i ran into issues with gimbal lock i think

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@tired tree yeah, that's what im working on atm

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implementing that excact algorithm, but it's just the math im struggeling with

tired tree Dec 12, 2019, 5:56 PM

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i solved for the shoulders when i did some testing to work out some leaning stuff

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I still keep the paper around to spend time on eventually, just haven't had the time

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the problem is that it needs modifications for issues it has

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and also to be converted to quats optimally

eternal inlet Dec 12, 2019, 5:58 PM

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Right i was affraid i had to use quats too

tired tree Dec 12, 2019, 6:00 PM

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@eternal inlet you don't "have" to, the original setup isn't

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but it really should be

eternal inlet Dec 12, 2019, 6:01 PM

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In that case i may have a sorta trivial problem to get sorted first

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Will write later when im home

mighty carbon Dec 12, 2019, 6:05 PM

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have you looked into Advanced Locomotion System v3 @eternal inlet ? I think it has full body IK

tired tree Dec 12, 2019, 6:11 PM

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that is entirely not the same @mighty carbon

mighty carbon Dec 12, 2019, 6:17 PM

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I see

sullen bramble Dec 12, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Does anyone know what it takes to get a dev version of the ps4?
Also has anyone worked with the psvr aim controller?

mighty carbon Dec 12, 2019, 7:57 PM

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I am sure you need to have a solid project to pitch to Sony. Check this out https://www.playstation.com/en-us/develop/.1/ @sullen bramble

PlayStation

Become a Registered Game Developer on PlayStation

Find out all the steps to self-publish your games and become registered developer on PlayStation Network across all the platforms PS3, PS4, PSN, PS Vita & PS TV. Know more about becoming registered developer and requirements in detail.

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that's for Americas

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EU has different site

sullen bramble Dec 12, 2019, 8:03 PM

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that is kind of intimidating

sonic lake Dec 12, 2019, 8:05 PM

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@eternal inlet this is from some time ago and open source. Note sure whether it could be a fit for Tall Order. https://youtu.be/Cm-hjahqLh8

YouTube

hacoo36

RTIK Unreal Engine 4 inverse Kinematics Demo

Demo of RTIK, an inverse kinematics system for Unreal Engine 4. For source code, project description, and install instructions see: https://github.com/hacoo/...

▶ Play video

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It supports joint constraints to a certain extent.

mighty carbon Dec 12, 2019, 8:11 PM

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@sullen bramble then perhaps you are not ready for console development 🙂

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note that you are going to have to do a lot of CPP coding and most likely some shader work too (not materials in the Editor, but actual low level shaders)

tired tree Dec 12, 2019, 8:15 PM

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thats not really true...

mighty carbon Dec 12, 2019, 8:18 PM

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well, I have XBO dev kits, so I know I need to get a few things done in CPP in order to even launch on XBO, not to mention to pass TRC

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and I recall vblanco had to f#ck with shaders in order to get stable performance on PSVR

sullen bramble Dec 12, 2019, 8:21 PM

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@mighty carbon you might be right there not really wanting to stray from stock shader support

eternal inlet Dec 12, 2019, 8:26 PM

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@sonic lake looks pretty cool actually. I noticed he's using a custom node he made, which had the name "rangelimited fabrik"... hard to tell if it's angle-limited or how it really works...

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either way, thanks for the link... i'll investigate

sonic lake Dec 12, 2019, 8:27 PM

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@eternal inlet The paper he mentions is the one about FABRIK with constraints, but then he also says he made variations to it.

eternal inlet Dec 12, 2019, 8:28 PM

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oh and about Tall Order, i've limited the scope of the game quite a lot, since i realized i would otherwise never finish it... so if all goes well, i'll be done in January with a version that has some simple fun levels, along with some assymetric pvp gameplay

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in any way... i'll clone it and see if i can figure out how to get it running and do some tests. Thanks again @sonic lake

sonic lake Dec 12, 2019, 8:31 PM

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@eternal inlet Sounds cool Jonas, looking forward to it! 👍

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I will also take a look at the plugin, I want to experiment with it.

eternal inlet Dec 12, 2019, 8:33 PM

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great... just watched the video again... even though it's hard to tell, because he has location snapping on, it looks kinda like the reaching for effectors are quite slow

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i mean... like it's taking a few frames to actually reach the effector

sonic lake Dec 12, 2019, 8:53 PM

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@eternal inlet yeah, it's not the fastest. The good news is that it compiles under 4.23

eternal inlet Dec 12, 2019, 8:54 PM

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ah you're already at it?

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he mentioned that it had issues with packaging if it was used as a plugin

sonic lake Dec 12, 2019, 8:54 PM

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yep, just cloned it and gave it a try

eternal inlet Dec 12, 2019, 8:54 PM

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did you also try that?

sonic lake Dec 12, 2019, 8:54 PM

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nope

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let me try

eternal inlet Dec 12, 2019, 8:55 PM

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aw man, that would be sweet

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thanks a ton

sonic lake Dec 12, 2019, 8:58 PM

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@eternal inlet getting a bunch of linker errors

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let me check

eternal inlet Dec 12, 2019, 8:59 PM

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🤔

sonic lake Dec 12, 2019, 9:23 PM

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@eternal inlet it's more messed up than I expected, it will require some work to fix the packaging

eternal inlet Dec 12, 2019, 9:24 PM

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Shit ok.. do u know how to do it? Or have an idea what is wrong?

sonic lake Dec 12, 2019, 9:25 PM

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I am fixing the warnings, then I will move to the linker issue

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Not 100% sure about the problem, but I have seen it already in old projects ported to 4.18 and higher

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📎 unknown.png

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We can ask in #plugin-dev

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@eternal inlet fixed the linker error