#virtual-reality | Unreal Source | Page 213

carmine yoke Oct 14, 2019, 12:55 PM

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texture density or something....

willow trail Oct 14, 2019, 12:56 PM

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@carmine yoke Hmm, thanks, I'll try that. The steamVR plugin is on and otherwise working (although I'm modified it).

I wonder what you mean by "delete all derived files and rederive" though?

carmine yoke Oct 14, 2019, 12:56 PM

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You modified steam vr plugin...?

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That's defo the problem then

willow trail Oct 14, 2019, 12:57 PM

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I've tried moving some of the stuff I'm using from the SteamVR plugin into my own project, but I'm using dozens of projects that need the same core BP modifications. Directly editting some of the assets exposed by SteamVR seemed like the best, quick, idea 🤷

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It's working without any issues otherwise

warm wagon Oct 14, 2019, 12:57 PM

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@carmine yoke unfortunately is not a visualizer because like i say in the previous message this glitch disappear if i translate the camera from the default position (in the default position the camera overlap the ground)

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so i think is caused by the overlapping with an object

willow trail Oct 14, 2019, 12:58 PM

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When I tried to move those assets out of the plugin (by duplicating them) I got entangled in a net of dependencies that I couldn't manage to resolve without going insane

warm wagon Oct 14, 2019, 12:58 PM

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and also in the part of the map on my back this glitch happen until i don't rotate myself

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 12:58 PM

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can someonehelp me to implement a simple VR widget interaction?

willow trail Oct 14, 2019, 12:58 PM

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(Also when I say modified I really only mean the default pawn BPs and such)

carmine yoke Oct 14, 2019, 12:59 PM

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@brisk spade there are a few vids on youtube regarding that, check em out

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 12:59 PM

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they dont work for both hands

carmine yoke Oct 14, 2019, 1:00 PM

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@willow trail I'm confused, you edited the SteamVR plugin? or the ue4 VR template?

willow trail Oct 14, 2019, 1:00 PM

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Both technically? I mean I say the SteamVR plugin because the assets reside in the plugin folder

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Oh no, not the UE4 VR template

carmine yoke Oct 14, 2019, 1:00 PM

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Your error said that you redefined a couple functions so you need sort out that redefinition

willow trail Oct 14, 2019, 1:01 PM

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haven't used that, although I think it's used by the default SteamVR plugin map or something

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I really haven't touched functions, as I said, haven't typed a line of C++ on this project

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Really only modified BPs, maybe a material or two and a texture

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 1:02 PM

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can you send me an easy tutorial

carmine yoke Oct 14, 2019, 1:04 PM

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@brisk spade https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Engine/UMG/HowTo/InWorldWidgetInteraction/index.html

Creating 3D Widget Interaction

An example of how to create in-game 3D widget interactions.

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Thats not for VR but you just get the line trace off your hands instead

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 1:05 PM

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thats what i did, but its only working for my right hand

carmine yoke Oct 14, 2019, 1:06 PM

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@willow trail Hmmmm, it sounds like you need to recompile the plugin

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But if you haven't touched any of the source code I'm surprised it broke...

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 1:07 PM

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@carmine yoke i have the widget interaction in my BP Controller with function for press and releass press pointer

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called when i press my motion controller trigger

carmine yoke Oct 14, 2019, 1:08 PM

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As in it triggers the line trace?

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Check that the trigger is working - print something to make sure you're using the correct inputs

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 1:09 PM

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my widgetinteraction is in Motion Controller

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it is using the right input

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carmine yoke Oct 14, 2019, 1:13 PM

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What's your Input though?

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 1:13 PM

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Montion Controller Trigger

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same for the Right

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i found out, that my right widget interaction is always active

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@carmine yoke can i use activate and deactivate widget interaction?

carmine yoke Oct 14, 2019, 1:18 PM

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Not sure - I don't know the rest of your sitch,
you said it works for one hand but not the other?

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 1:18 PM

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only for one yes

carmine yoke Oct 14, 2019, 1:18 PM

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I think you could use that yeah

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try it out

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 1:18 PM

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now nothing works

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anymore

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carmine yoke Oct 14, 2019, 1:21 PM

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Keep them both active all the time then

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If the right one was working with it active all the time?

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Tbh mate i'm not sure

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Follow whatever youtube vids you can find on the subject, i'm sure its something small you've left you

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out*

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I've got to jet unfortunately

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 1:23 PM

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i set up this no it seems to work

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 2:03 PM

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i made it nearly

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but my left mouse button stays on the button :/

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when i release the pointer

crystal oak Oct 14, 2019, 2:09 PM

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@tired tree yeah but then im having issues with visual alignment with base models of different types, i need to be able to offset how forward the camera is, close clipping plane is no good because you cant set it per camera

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Im working on a prototype for a full body VR system similar to neos & VRChat. Im familer with the engine and c++, but not general VR work.

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 2:11 PM

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i want my widget interaction only active when visible

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my pointer stays on the object

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even if it doesnt hover

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it seems the left mouse button stays on the menu

tired tree Oct 14, 2019, 2:21 PM

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@crystal oak the camera IS the player perspective, offset the mesh behind the head.....offsetting the camera would throw off the players actual view. You can MOVE the camera in local space on the character by offsetting its root, but generally offsetting the mesh is better so that you retain 1:1 roomscale tracking.

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however you are setting your head effector, just add a -X offset to it by the heads rotation on local

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or hide the head bone, or handle it a multitude of different ways

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but don't offset the actual camera....

crystal oak Oct 14, 2019, 2:23 PM

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Thanks for the info, il take a play around with it 🙂

tired tree Oct 14, 2019, 2:24 PM

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I have some users that have fully body setups and are running with them if you want direct guidance on an IK system you are using. I obviously cannot roll any third party IK into my examples so I don't know how all of the different options handle their offsets. @crystal oak

crystal oak Oct 14, 2019, 2:25 PM

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Any info would be handy, iv been writing my own IK system up kinda, and using vive trackers for Hips and feet, trying to avoid third party solutions, everytime i try one its just trash or the editor is unstable.

tired tree Oct 14, 2019, 2:26 PM

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mm, well editing the third parties has been the general course from what I have helped some of them with

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i'll take it to PM

warm lion Oct 14, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Maybe this is better here but I'm trying to view stereoscopic images in my vr headset. I've used the tool in UE4 to create the image where the left eye is the top helf of the image and the right eye is the bottom half. Now how do I view the image? I thought I could make a material to do the split but I'm just getting the same image in both eyes.

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carmine yoke Oct 14, 2019, 4:56 PM

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Does anyone know what the root folder of the oculus quest is?

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For example, if I wanted to read an ini file off of my quest, what would be the root?

carmine yoke Oct 14, 2019, 5:31 PM

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^ figured it out, its /sdcard/UE4Game/

sonic tide Oct 14, 2019, 8:10 PM

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When I use a physics handle, the object always lags behind my hand.

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How do i make it stay attached to it?

runic bough Oct 14, 2019, 8:11 PM

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It might be because of the tick group.

sonic tide Oct 14, 2019, 8:12 PM

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What should i be?

runic bough Oct 14, 2019, 8:12 PM

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Try pre physics

sonic tide Oct 14, 2019, 8:12 PM

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It is

runic bough Oct 14, 2019, 8:12 PM

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the object or the hand?

sonic tide Oct 14, 2019, 8:13 PM

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well the hand is inside my character

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in the character

runic bough Oct 14, 2019, 8:13 PM

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so the object is pre-physics?

sonic tide Oct 14, 2019, 8:13 PM

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no idea

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yeah the obj is also pre

runic bough Oct 14, 2019, 8:14 PM

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if the object is pre it will be one tick old

sonic tide Oct 14, 2019, 8:14 PM

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they're both pre-physics tho

runic bough Oct 14, 2019, 8:14 PM

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try post on the object

sonic tide Oct 14, 2019, 8:14 PM

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and the physics handle isn't in the object so why does it matter?

runic bough Oct 14, 2019, 8:23 PM

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Are you using a spring arm?

tired tree Oct 14, 2019, 9:01 PM

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Make sure that you turn off late updates to really compare. Regardless though unless you keep the handle really stiff it's never going to be perfect.

sonic tide Oct 14, 2019, 9:03 PM

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So why use a physics handle then?

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Is there any better option?

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 9:27 PM

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I still have annoying problem with my motion controller pointers and widget interaction :/ need help spent 2 whol days finding a solution

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Why does my pointer stays hoovering on a button, when I release a pointer key?

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:17 PM

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@brisk spade are you deactivating the UWidgetInteractionComponent on release?

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if so it probably stays hovered wherever it was

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:18 PM

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oh nope im ne to Vr development ans still a beginner

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@sturdy coral so what do i have to do? in bp

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in the UMG bp ?

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i have one button with a WidgetUI

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out of the menu i built a 4-ButtonMenu

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:20 PM

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I'm not sure it was you, but someone posted a blueprint screenshot showing UWidgetInteractionComponent being activated on trigger press and deactivated on trigger release or something the other day

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:20 PM

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this?

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sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:21 PM

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ah yeah I think so

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so you are turning off the widget interaction component tick on release by deactivating it

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:21 PM

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yeah thats mine

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:21 PM

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so whatever it was hovered when it deactivates it will stay hovered over I'm pretty sure

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you can just always leave it activated if you need to hover stuff

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set it to auto activate and remove the activate/deactive nodes

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:23 PM

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what does auto activate does?

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:23 PM

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it just activates it on begin play

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activate usually just turns ticking on and off

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for most components

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:24 PM

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ah i dont get it exactly

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:24 PM

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what activate does for widget interaction component is tell it to start tracing to find widget components and doing cursor events if it hits one

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:24 PM

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just a refresher my player holds the trigger to sees the pointer and when hovering over a button sees a popup text over the button

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:24 PM

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if you deactivate, then you won't get cursor movement until activate again (cursor movement of the virtual cursor/laser pointer)

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:25 PM

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i have a onHovered event in my UMG bp

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:25 PM

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onHover won't happen if the widget interaction component is deactivated, because it won't do any traces to find the widget component and widget

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:26 PM

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my problem ist, when i set it on auto activate, will it be active when my player presses the trigger?

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:26 PM

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if you do auto-activate, you will start getting hover events before the trigger is pressed

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:26 PM

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so you sure auto activate solves my problem?

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:26 PM

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not completely

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you said "Why does my pointer stays hoovering on a button, when I release a pointer key" so I thought you meant you didn't want t he hover to stay in place

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and wanted it to keep following the controller

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:27 PM

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the widget interaction is attached to the motion controller

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:27 PM

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but what you are actually saying is you only want the hover to happen while the trigger is down, and not happen when it is up, right?

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:28 PM

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i just want, that the pointer key resolves 😄

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yes trigger is down, pointer is visible and the player sees the popup whil hovering over a button

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:29 PM

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as it is set up now, deactivate is going to leave the cursor in place wherever it was, hovering over whatever it was hovering over when you let off the trigger, no new ticks will happen so it will just stay in place wherever it was

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you need to add something after deactivate to also either move it out of the way, or somehow remove it from the widget component altogether

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:30 PM

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could i set the interction distance to 0 before deactivating?

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:30 PM

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I'm not sure how to remove it, maybe by moving it over a dummy widget component

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:31 PM

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the will be no interactive elements in the motion controller mesh iself

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when hitting an object it won't call my activate WidgetInteraction function.

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:32 PM

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maybe, I'm not sure if interaction distance zero will leave the virtual user cursor wherever it was, or remove it somehow

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:33 PM

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have to test it.

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so my only option is to reset my cursor to a spot it will never hit anything, ok

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:34 PM

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yeah that's the hacky fix, I'm not sure how to just remove it altogether, but there is some way

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:35 PM

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yeah its my first real commercial unreal project and im the only unreal developer 😄

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i found a thread that removing a cursor is not possible with bp, but i will set a comment when i reduce the distance to 0 and release it.

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@sturdy coral i will tell you tomorrow, if my bypass works

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:39 PM

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@brisk spade


void UWidgetInteractionComponent::SimulatePointerMovement()
{
    if ( !bEnableHitTesting )
    {
        return;
    }

    if ( !CanSendInput() )
    {
        return;
    }

    FWidgetPath WidgetPathUnderFinger = DetermineWidgetUnderPointer();

    FPointerEvent PointerEvent(
 [...]

    if (WidgetPathUnderFinger.IsValid())
    {
        check(HoveredWidgetComponent);
        LastWidgetPath = WidgetPathUnderFinger;

        FSlateApplication::Get().RoutePointerMoveEvent(WidgetPathUnderFinger, PointerEvent, false);
    }
    else
    {
        FWidgetPath EmptyWidgetPath;
        FSlateApplication::Get().RoutePointerMoveEvent(EmptyWidgetPath, PointerEvent, false);

        LastWidgetPath = FWeakWidgetPath();
    }
}```

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I think FSlateApplication::Get().RoutePointerMoveEvent(EmptyWidgetPath, PointerEvent, false); will clear it out

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:39 PM

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yeah thats what i found in the mentioned thread

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now i just have to find a way to understand it

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rarely worked with c++ in unreal

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:44 PM

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@brisk spade I think you just need to add something like this:

WidgetInteractionComponent.h 

UFUNCTION(BlueprintCallable, Category="Interaction")
void ClearPointerLocation();

WidgetInteractionComponent.cpp


void UWidgetInteractionComponent::ClearPointerLocation()
{
    FPointerEvent PointerEvent(
        VirtualUser->GetUserIndex(),
        PointerIndex,
        LocalHitLocation,
        LastLocalHitLocation,
        PressedKeys,
        FKey(),
        0.0f,
        ModifierKeys);
    
    FWidgetPath EmptyWidgetPath;
    FSlateApplication::Get().RoutePointerMoveEvent(EmptyWidgetPath, PointerEvent, false);

    LastWidgetPath = FWeakWidgetPath();
}

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:45 PM

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inside the c++ file of my widget interaction?

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:45 PM

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of the engine's WidgetInteractionComponent.h/cpp

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you may be able to create your own subclass and add it there without having to do an engine build

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the hacky way to do it if you can only do blueprint though is before deactivating the widget component, manually move cursor off the hovered widget by moving around the widgetinteractioncomponent to point somewhere else; you may have to wait on one additional tick to occur before deactivating as well

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:47 PM

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what your c++ code does: constructor for a new Pointer Event and then move the pointer to this event?

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:48 PM

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yeah the main thing is it tells it to point at an empty widget path which should move the cursor from whatever it was hovering off into the void somewhere

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:49 PM

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ahhh, i will try if my method setting the interaction distance to 0 works, if not i will look how to edit my c++ files

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and add the additional function

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:50 PM

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maybe it will work

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make sure you let it tick an additional time after setting interaction distance

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or it may still leave things in place

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:50 PM

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is there a node for extra ticking?

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:50 PM

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after deactivate put in a delay 0 node

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:50 PM

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thank you for your help 😄

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:50 PM

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I think a 0 delay will wait one extra tick

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:50 PM

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ahh just a delay node

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its a long way to become more proficient whith unreal 😄

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:51 PM

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set interaction distance to 0, delay 0, then deactivate

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:52 PM

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yep i will try that, if not i will try to do the hard c++ way

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:53 PM

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I think that may work, and make SimulatePointerMovement take that else branch that removes the cursor

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:54 PM

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so basically i will have an additional function in my bp when editing th c++ code?

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:55 PM

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yeah if you add that cpp code it will just create a new blueprint node to call that function (UFUNCTION(BlueprintCallable adds that)

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:55 PM

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i think cpp code isnt that hard, but you have to start one day

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its just not visual

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@sturdy coral again thank you for your time 😄

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im going to bed its super late here

sturdy coral Oct 14, 2019, 11:58 PM

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in editor you try: file : add new c++ class, and make it a subclass of UWidgetInteractionComponent from the dropdown, then hopefully avoid modifying engine and just add that function to the subclass

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then you have to go through and change your existing widget interaction component to use the subclass instead

brisk spade Oct 14, 2019, 11:59 PM

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yep wil do some research on how to use cpp

pulsar dome Oct 15, 2019, 2:21 AM

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Trying to figure out how to get my packaged VR game to launch steamvr as soon as it opens, not just having to open steamvr then the game?

languid night Oct 15, 2019, 2:39 AM

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Hey all, how do I get good lighting in the Oculus Quest?

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I understand it's using android lighting but I don't have any pointers to work from besides that

willow trail Oct 15, 2019, 7:18 AM

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I don't get any input when packaging on an Index. Tracking works fine, but every other input fails (SteamVR plugin hand animation works fine though). Everything works fine otherwise in VR preview 😕 any idea?

severe tide Oct 15, 2019, 8:06 AM

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using the mobile preview in the editor helps a lot @languid night, though it's still not matched 100%. So you gotta keep building occasionally to check how it looks

brisk spade Oct 15, 2019, 8:38 AM

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still have the issue that my widget interaction stucks on a button when releasing the pointer

little scaffold Oct 15, 2019, 9:17 AM

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@brisk spade try deactivating the widget interaction component after releasing the pointer key

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also when you move fast sometimes it stays hovered but not everytime

brisk spade Oct 15, 2019, 9:54 AM

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@little scaffold i found a solution releasing my pointer with a delay

violet musk Oct 15, 2019, 10:47 AM

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Does anybody have a working material setup for a 360 stereo sphere with depending on over-under video?

violet musk Oct 15, 2019, 11:11 AM

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Found a solution by searching for "360 stereo" and read a conversation from october 2018 about this problem between vr_marco, Dice and LifeForLife

tired tree Oct 15, 2019, 1:37 PM

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@willow trail using valves plugin only? They have a consistent issue with that, generally you have to delete your saved/config folder.

dense wave Oct 15, 2019, 1:43 PM

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Has anyone used the LiveLink plugin in a packaged game and got a valid MessageBus provider out? Is it even possible outside of the editor? I'm following the docs from https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Engine/Animation/LiveLinkPlugin/LiveLinkBlueprintComponent/index.html but can't ever seem to get anything out of GetAvailableProviders

Live Link in Blueprints

Describes how to work with the Live Link Component in Blueprints granting the ability to establish connections at run-time or in packaged projects.

willow trail Oct 15, 2019, 2:16 PM

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@tired tree I am, I tried removing Intermediate and Saved (I should really look up what those folders are for...) but not Config, I'll try it out

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Oh, does Config contain all your project settings... That's rough

tired tree Oct 15, 2019, 2:18 PM

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not config

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saved/config

willow trail Oct 15, 2019, 2:18 PM

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Ah, well I did try removing the entire Saved folder

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Didn't help :/

tired tree Oct 15, 2019, 2:19 PM

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in packaged or editr

willow trail Oct 15, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Packaged

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Standalone doesn't work at all, VR Preview works fine

tired tree Oct 15, 2019, 2:19 PM

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packaged stores them in a different place

willow trail Oct 15, 2019, 2:20 PM

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Oh, deleting Saved and repackaging isn't enough?

tired tree Oct 15, 2019, 2:21 PM

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C:\Users{UserName}\AppData\Local{ProjectName}

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the config files are stored in app data on packaged games

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its likely you have a stale config in there

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their plugin does some funky things with key re-mapping, so it fails with config overrides from local changes

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think JohnAlch is actually straight up deleting that on launch

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which won't really work for games that actually save changes to it

willow trail Oct 15, 2019, 2:25 PM

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I can't seem to find that folder, neither Local or Roaming seem to have a folder with my project name

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Didn't really find anything by grepping through the files either

willow trail Oct 15, 2019, 2:41 PM

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@tired tree Deleting the Saved/Config inside of the packaged folder does the same thing too

willow trail Oct 15, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Yeah I really don't get it. it's a bit confusing to me that the hand moves and reacts to touch events just fine, but that nothing gets through the blueprint, even the default touchpad-teleporting

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Looking at the game's controls in the SteamVR menu shows up all the actions I've defined too

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Really confused

sturdy coral Oct 15, 2019, 3:37 PM

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@willow trail you may want to figure out why it isn't going to AppData/Local first, you maybe overrode something?

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I think maybe devel and shipping builds use different locations, but I thought that was only for devel editor with -game

willow trail Oct 15, 2019, 3:41 PM

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@sturdy coral I don't recall overriding anything :/

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Ah, packaging a Shipping build instead does create that folder

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But the problem remains :/

sturdy coral Oct 15, 2019, 3:45 PM

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ah ok, so pacakaging devel puts Saved in packaged dir?

willow trail Oct 15, 2019, 3:45 PM

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I guess so yeah

sturdy coral Oct 15, 2019, 3:45 PM

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I thought it was something like that but then wasn't sure

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mac is even crazier, there are like 50 directories it spreads things out to

willow trail Oct 15, 2019, 3:46 PM

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Yeah looks like the Saved folder is missing in the package output folder for Shipping

sturdy coral Oct 15, 2019, 3:46 PM

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depending if running in editor vs packaged etc.

willow trail Oct 15, 2019, 3:50 PM

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Glad I'm not working on a mac then

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Windows is already driving me nuts

tired tree Oct 15, 2019, 3:51 PM

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@willow trail are all of your bindings there in the steam overlay?

willow trail Oct 15, 2019, 3:52 PM

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Wish I could screenshot you, but yeah, when clicking the "show controls" on the bottom (if that's what you mean) they all appear

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My custom "ARightTouch" actions and such

tired tree Oct 15, 2019, 3:53 PM

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i meant in the actual bindings interface, if keys are mapped to them

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http://localhost:8998/dashboard/controllerbinding.html

willow trail Oct 15, 2019, 3:55 PM

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They are for UE4Editor

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Kind of struggling to find the bindings for the standalone app

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Alright found me, and repackaged just in case

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They all look bound to me

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It tells me "HeadsetOn" hasn't been bound

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Don't know if that's really meaningful, it really isn't in the Editor

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I really gotta head out, but thanks a lot for the help as usual... If you got any idea I'll be sure to try it out tomorrow though

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thanks again

tired tree Oct 15, 2019, 3:59 PM

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gl

sturdy coral Oct 15, 2019, 4:07 PM

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the wmr plugin has speech recognition?

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or is that only for hololens?

tired tree Oct 15, 2019, 4:44 PM

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@sturdy coral what engine version are you looking at there?

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mm nvm, that extra check was added post 4.23 preview 1

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#if WINDOWS_MIXED_REALITY_INTEROP__WINDOWS_SDK_VERSION__BUILD >= 18362
#define SUPPORTS_WINDOWS_MIXED_REALITY_SPEECH_RECOGNITION 1
#else
#define SUPPORTS_WINDOWS_MIXED_REALITY_SPEECH_RECOGNITION 0
#endif

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looks like its for all?

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that original define included "PLATFORM_HOLOLENS" but they deleted it

sturdy coral Oct 15, 2019, 4:53 PM

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ah cool.. I wonder what percentage of WMR users actually have a mic hooked up to the hmd though

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really wish they had built a mic into all of them

mighty carbon Oct 15, 2019, 6:06 PM

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deft ermine Oct 15, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Hi, I'm working on a WebAR project for mobile devices and was wondering if unreal supports WebGL for phones? From what I googled I cant find any recent news if Unreal supports mobile WebGL

abstract forum Oct 15, 2019, 10:10 PM

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https://trello.com/c/xfzlH8Ep/117-unify-components-across-vr-platforms

Trello

Unify Components across VR Platforms

We’re working on unifying code between the different VR and AR platforms, which will lead to better feature parity, quicker development times for new platforms, and more consistency in interfaces.

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VR / AR

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It is done!

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WEW!

mighty carbon Oct 15, 2019, 11:59 PM

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what does it mean?

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oh, 4.24 will finally have new Audio mixer on by default

abstract forum Oct 16, 2019, 1:37 AM

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Yep

willow trail Oct 16, 2019, 7:12 AM

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Tried some other things (thanks to some recommendations), like making sure I've turned on "Enable debugging options in the input binding user interface" but still no luck. None of my input work, this for example prints the right axis value on VR Preview, but prints 0.0 on a packaged build https://i.imgur.com/UFEmyBm.png

Imgur

fathom epoch Oct 16, 2019, 8:42 AM

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hi is there a way to follow the player character if the player character is a VR character?

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get player character is not working

molten coral Oct 16, 2019, 11:35 AM

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hey guys , any idea on how to use geo referenced 3d models in an AR application ?

pearl tangle Oct 16, 2019, 1:37 PM

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@abstract forum Doesn't look like it's done. Looks like it is abandoned, thats why they archived it

mighty carbon Oct 16, 2019, 1:41 PM

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o.O

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why would they abandon it ?

tired tree Oct 16, 2019, 1:43 PM

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its already pretty platform abstract, and openXR is in engine now

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openXR technically kind of superceedes that entire concept

mighty carbon Oct 16, 2019, 1:51 PM

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I see

brisk spade Oct 16, 2019, 2:39 PM

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I need help with my pointers :/

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when i release my pointer directly over a button my button widget stay hovered

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i have no clue how to solve this

sturdy coral Oct 16, 2019, 3:25 PM

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@brisk spade did you try all that other stuff?

brisk spade Oct 16, 2019, 3:25 PM

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yep

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the main problem is that all what i try my button stays hovered

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only keeping my widget inteaction active and visible helps, so the hit moves alongside the pointer

sturdy coral Oct 16, 2019, 3:27 PM

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you tried the interaction distance + delay for one tick thing?

brisk spade Oct 16, 2019, 3:27 PM

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jep+

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also destroying my widget interaction

sturdy coral Oct 16, 2019, 3:28 PM

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not sure, it may be that no unhovered event happens just from removing pointer, and you instead need to move it to some empty area on the widget

tired tree Oct 16, 2019, 3:29 PM

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they keyup event will remove it as well

brisk spade Oct 16, 2019, 3:29 PM

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key up event helps?

tired tree Oct 16, 2019, 3:29 PM

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oh sorry, hover, not press highlight

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lemme check something

sturdy coral Oct 16, 2019, 3:30 PM

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ah maybe it is also getting a press highlight

tired tree Oct 16, 2019, 3:30 PM

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ran into that a long time ago

brisk spade Oct 16, 2019, 3:30 PM

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set press button did not helped

tired tree Oct 16, 2019, 3:33 PM

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yeah, just checked I had put out a bug report back in 4.16 or so about that

carmine yoke Oct 16, 2019, 3:35 PM

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Has anyone messed around with Vulkan for Oculus Quest? Thoughts?

tired tree Oct 16, 2019, 3:39 PM

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@sturdy coral the interactioncomponent stores current overlapped widget, it would need to throw the pointer off event on deactivation / destruction to that widget if it is valid to work as expected

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as is, it just removes the virtual user and leaves everything as it was

sturdy coral Oct 16, 2019, 3:41 PM

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yeah, I gave a function to send that pointer event

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not sure she tried that but she was going to try setting interaction distance to zero and waiting one tick before deactivating

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@brisk spade have you tried removing your key down key up events? since you just want hover you don't really need them

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and your key up was coming after it was deactivated, so may not work

brisk spade Oct 16, 2019, 3:43 PM

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hm

sturdy coral Oct 16, 2019, 3:46 PM

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(press pointer key/release pointer key)

brisk spade Oct 16, 2019, 3:46 PM

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i tried all variation

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but it could be that i missed the working one

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i want my pointer only visible hwn pressing and holding the trigger and this pointer activates a button

sturdy coral Oct 16, 2019, 3:47 PM

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remove those and try putting a hoverable widget all the way to the edge of your widget component, then try hovering it and dragging the widget interactor off the edge and see if it unhovers

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if it won't unhover like that then I think just removing the pointer with that pointer event won't work

tired tree Oct 16, 2019, 3:49 PM

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@brisk spade when deactivating the interator, make sure it is on HitType custom, and send in an empty CustomHit to it.

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then delay 1 tick

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it will call unhover

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and then you can deactivate / destroy or whatever you are doing

brisk spade Oct 16, 2019, 3:49 PM

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i will try it later thank you 🙂

tired tree Oct 16, 2019, 3:50 PM

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i did verify that it works btw, but I was already on custom hit events for it always anyway

brisk spade Oct 16, 2019, 3:50 PM

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so i dont have to change anything in my widget directly?

tired tree Oct 16, 2019, 3:50 PM

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in the widget? no, this is for the interactor

brisk spade Oct 16, 2019, 3:51 PM

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ahhh i inject a false hit result

sturdy coral Oct 16, 2019, 3:52 PM

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@brisk spade aside from this hover thing, you are also clicking separate buttons?

brisk spade Oct 16, 2019, 3:53 PM

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yes the buttons shall work normally

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and later interactive objects

sturdy coral Oct 16, 2019, 3:53 PM

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you may need to move that pointer released event to before the deactivate

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if deactivate is removing the virtual user

brisk spade Oct 16, 2019, 3:54 PM

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so setting up everytime i activate the pointer

tired tree Oct 16, 2019, 3:54 PM

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yeah you have to wait a tick after clearing things before deactivating

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deactivate instantly removes the user

sturdy coral Oct 16, 2019, 3:57 PM

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@brisk spade release pointer key is going to check if virtual user is valid, and it won't be after deactivate, so release pointer key needs to happen before the call to deactivate in order to work

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for your other buttons

brisk spade Oct 16, 2019, 3:57 PM

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can you give me the order of nodes i have to call

sturdy coral Oct 16, 2019, 3:59 PM

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I think release pointer key, then do the fake hit, then delay 0 for one frame, then deactivate

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@tired tree does it need set interaction distance 0 after fake hit so next tick doesn't generate new hit result?

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or is it always working off the prev hit result

tired tree Oct 16, 2019, 4:02 PM

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@sturdy coral i'm passing in a no hit, no blocking on that hit event

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and since it is set to custom hit events

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it doesn't "generate" its own

sturdy coral Oct 16, 2019, 4:04 PM

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ok, for without custom hit events it would probably need to be: release pointer key, fake hit, set interaction distance 0, delay 0 (one frame), then deactivate

brisk spade Oct 16, 2019, 4:08 PM

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i have to work on sth else so i wont have the time to test it now

brisk spade Oct 16, 2019, 7:38 PM

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@sturdy coral I made it somehow

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I set up a normal interaction and then expanded on it

pulsar dome Oct 16, 2019, 11:18 PM

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Any luck developing to Pimax VR HMDs? Should I be setting tracking origins at eye level or floor level for the Pimax?

sturdy coral Oct 17, 2019, 12:40 AM

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@pulsar dome floor level

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the main issue is if you don't have parallel projections turned on in pitool, shadow blending won't work quite right

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you can set it to floor level or eye level, floor level is just the default for all steam vr (and eye level for oculus)

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but you can set either to either

pulsar dome Oct 17, 2019, 12:42 AM

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Okay so basically for oculus everything works perfectly and then from vive and pimax everything is a bit lower so like they clip through the floor on spawn and in a scene where they are in a car they are beneath the car (all HMDs use steam VR

sturdy coral Oct 17, 2019, 12:43 AM

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@pulsar dome oculus just defaults to eye level and steamvr to floor level, it is usually easiest to default them both to floor level if you are doing anything roomscale

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eye level if cockpit and you want them to recalibrate

pulsar dome Oct 17, 2019, 12:44 AM

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Oh okay so if I'm in a cockpit I should set it back to eye level?

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Like a sitting environment?

sturdy coral Oct 17, 2019, 12:45 AM

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yeah

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set both to eye level

pulsar dome Oct 17, 2019, 12:45 AM

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Okay sweet thank you

sturdy coral Oct 17, 2019, 12:45 AM

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less vive stuff uses it so people may not know how to reset origin through the menu

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so you should also make sure to have a reset functionality within your app itself (and not just a hotkey)

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there is a node for that

pulsar dome Oct 17, 2019, 12:46 AM

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Yeah I will, that's what I need to work on for tomorrow

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Yeah reset orientation and position, I use it for certain things

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Thank you so much charles, can I add you as a friend just in case I need help in implementation?

sturdy coral Oct 17, 2019, 12:46 AM

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yeah sure

pulsar dome Oct 17, 2019, 12:46 AM

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Sweet, thank you

sturdy coral Oct 17, 2019, 12:47 AM

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better to ask most stuff in here though in case I'm wrong or someone knows a better way

pulsar dome Oct 17, 2019, 12:47 AM

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Yeah of course, thanks 👍

sturdy coral Oct 17, 2019, 12:48 AM

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np

cloud quartz Oct 17, 2019, 1:49 AM

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hey guys

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anyone using oculus quest?

mighty carbon Oct 17, 2019, 1:54 AM

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everyone !

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😄

cloud quartz Oct 17, 2019, 1:58 AM

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I can't get past 10 fps

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I have no shadows, no dynamic lighting, Multiview enabled, no post process, disabled mobile HDR, no Anti-Alias

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I do have

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terrain, some foliage trees (with LODs)

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mighty carbon Oct 17, 2019, 2:18 AM

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try no landscape and no trees

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this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0v0-fgIIAo runs at solid 72 fps

YouTube

motorsep

Albergate pre-pre-alpha test

Finally got gameplay framework foundation for the game down and working. Next step is to build a section of the dungeon to show basic enemy AI in action :)

▶ Play video

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@cloud quartz ^^

cloud quartz Oct 17, 2019, 2:22 AM

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geeeeze that is incredible

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but

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I have to have a forest

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so trees are kind of necessary

mighty carbon Oct 17, 2019, 2:23 AM

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then Quest isn't your platform

cloud quartz Oct 17, 2019, 2:23 AM

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I'll show you the scene

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game looks great btw

mighty carbon Oct 17, 2019, 2:23 AM

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thanks

cloud quartz Oct 17, 2019, 2:24 AM

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this is not my project it's contact work

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mighty carbon Oct 17, 2019, 2:25 AM

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have you profiled your scene ?

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~100k tris in the view, simple materials, baked lighting, avoid transparency, ~80 drawcalls

cloud quartz Oct 17, 2019, 2:28 AM

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got these stats

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from the oculus page

72 FPS
50-100 draw calls per frame
50,000-100,000 triangles or vertices per frame

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ok so yeah

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let's see

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Oh one thing first

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are you in vulkan?

mighty carbon Oct 17, 2019, 2:31 AM

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ES3.1

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btw, that video was recorded on Go, ran at 60 fps

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but I ran it on Quest too

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are you running Vulkan ?

cloud quartz Oct 17, 2019, 2:32 AM

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yeah

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the artist wanted to use vulkan

mighty carbon Oct 17, 2019, 2:32 AM

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maybe landscape isn't supported well ?

cloud quartz Oct 17, 2019, 2:32 AM

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I am not sure...Can't find documentation

mighty carbon Oct 17, 2019, 2:33 AM

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https://www.oculus.com/experiences/go/1122106037877975 << that's on Go

Oculus

Phaeton Chronicles: Fallen Titan on Oculus Go

In Phaeton Chronicles: Fallen Titan you will be teleported to one of the corners of a mysterious planet Phaeton to take a glimpse into another dominion and encounter some of its unsavory inhabitants.

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I had to make mesh terrain cuz back then landscape wasn't supported

cloud quartz Oct 17, 2019, 2:34 AM

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mmh interesting

mighty carbon Oct 17, 2019, 2:34 AM

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and I chopped it into chunks, LODed each chunk

cloud quartz Oct 17, 2019, 2:34 AM

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alright

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ok so I am at 150 draw calls in worst case scenario

mighty carbon Oct 17, 2019, 2:36 AM

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450 mesh drawcalls max

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465? Or 405? can't tell due to screenshot quality/size

cloud quartz Oct 17, 2019, 2:38 AM

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mmh weird didnt see that value

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and im not getting it anymore

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oh i had turned on the foliage tool with that on

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and it did something to it

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mmh i though foliage would do a better job at cluestring

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it looks as if these trees are almost a draw call each

neat moon Oct 17, 2019, 3:28 AM

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Hey everybody i am trying to make a game that teaches you how use construction tools for example a screwdriver is the color red and when it detects the screw driver it plays a video

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btw I am new to AR so if you know any forums any videos or plugins that would be greatly appreciated

brisk spade Oct 17, 2019, 8:18 AM

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i thinks its a better place

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my teleportation stops working after open level

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when i open every level in the preview it works properl<

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carmine yoke Oct 17, 2019, 10:42 AM

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@cloud quartz FYI you can use the session front end to send stat commands to the quest while it's launched

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I didn't realise that for AGES and now I'm optimising like its nobody's business

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You can also profile with it too

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I also found the draw calls my editor says are in the scene and the draw calls my quest said in the stat command were very different

topaz plank Oct 17, 2019, 11:08 AM

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editor stats include all of the editor elements (slate, etc.) in the stats as well 😉

brisk spade Oct 17, 2019, 12:32 PM

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My widget interaction does not collide with a simple actor all set to the same trace channel

brisk spade Oct 17, 2019, 2:02 PM

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does a widgetinteraction component only works with widgets?

pearl tangle Oct 17, 2019, 2:16 PM

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what else should it work with?

brisk spade Oct 17, 2019, 2:19 PM

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@pearl tangle its only for menu, should i use a simple line when i want a sphere button ingame?

little scaffold Oct 17, 2019, 3:12 PM

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Anyone used a world widget with a cylinder geometry mode and tried to have a laser pointing to the right place on it? My pointer directed by the widget interaction component stops like it is intersecting a plane not a cylinder, any idea why?

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tired tree Oct 17, 2019, 3:14 PM

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@little scaffold because the collision generated isn't curved

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they don't have seperate collision generation setups for the different display modes

little scaffold Oct 17, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Mmmh ok so there is now workaround except calculate our selve the real collision impact?

tired tree Oct 17, 2019, 3:17 PM

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you can override the collision generation and generate it curved instead?

little scaffold Oct 17, 2019, 3:30 PM

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How do I get the collision of a widget?

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for this specific one

tired tree Oct 17, 2019, 3:32 PM

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@little scaffold its in the WidgetComponent

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where it generates the collision structure

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I looked into doing it at some point

little scaffold Oct 17, 2019, 3:36 PM

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ok I'll see if I can trick it around when I do my collision test

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thanks @tired tree

sturdy coral Oct 17, 2019, 4:27 PM

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@little scaffold @tired tree from my code i have this comment:


            // NOTE: with cylinder widgets, hit.Distance is wrong.  UWidgetComponent adjusts Hit.ImpactPoint
            // after first tracing against the plane but fails to update Hit.Distance, so we recompute from
            // TraceStart and ImpactPoint.```

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for scaling my laser cylinder (which is probably 1m) I have:

auto Hit = MC_Left_WidgetInteraction->GetLastHitResult();
NewWorldScale.X = FMath::Max(FVector::Dist(Hit.TraceStart, Hit.ImpactPoint), .0001f);```

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there is still the problem that if your hand is in front of the cylinder, but behind the plane, the trace won't hit since it traces against the plane

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more of an issue with large curvature and large screens

tired tree Oct 17, 2019, 4:31 PM

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yeah which is why I was going to do the full collision change

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I was testing on large surfaces

sturdy coral Oct 17, 2019, 4:31 PM

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after they added widget component they added that thing where traces can query UVs

tired tree Oct 17, 2019, 4:31 PM

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but that would def work as a hack on something smaller

sturdy coral Oct 17, 2019, 4:31 PM

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I'd like to just be able to throw UI on anything and trace against the UVs

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to allow a lot of crazier shapes

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like L shaped table+screen type thing

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apparently it is a project setting so can't be used by default

little scaffold Oct 17, 2019, 4:34 PM

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@sturdy coral that works like a charm thanks very much for sharing

mighty carbon Oct 17, 2019, 6:51 PM

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@cloud quartz did you figure out whether landscape or trees were bogging down performance ?

cloud quartz Oct 17, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Yeah it basically was both

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Lots of tris in the landscape

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Artist hadn't put any lods

mighty carbon Oct 17, 2019, 7:06 PM

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ouch

white fern Oct 17, 2019, 9:21 PM

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@sturdy coral Thanks for the UV tracing feature; glad to know that's a thing.

frigid kite Oct 18, 2019, 8:04 AM

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I'm noticing that on Rift S, when I mount the HMD while a packaged build is running, it sometimes takes up to what feels like a minute before the app is displayed

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It's just a black screen or the Oculus logo / throbber

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Anyone else have any experience with this?

sonic lake Oct 18, 2019, 8:27 AM

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@frigid kite that could be the combination of your starting level being loaded and the Oculus stack being started. You should see the Oculus app being started and appearing in your taskbar.

frigid kite Oct 18, 2019, 8:37 AM

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Both the app and the oculus stack is already running

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It's when taking off the HMD, and then putting it on again, while the game is already running

sonic lake Oct 18, 2019, 9:29 AM

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@frigid kite Do you do anything specific when your app looses focus? Or if the HMD is not worn?

frigid kite Oct 18, 2019, 9:31 AM

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The app is paused when the HMD is unmounted. When the HMD is mounted again, it checks how long it has not been worn by comparing system time (DateTime.Now). If it's under a threshold time, the app is unpaused, otherwise it switches to another, very small, scene

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We've already noticed that the Unreal app completely freezes if you do a scene switch while the HMD is not worn

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i.e., it's stuck on a single frame that's being reprojected by Oculus

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Simply switching scenes while the HMD is worn takes a fraction of a second

sonic lake Oct 18, 2019, 10:13 AM

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@frigid kite for the sake of testing it, try to disable stereo before the scene changes and re-enable it after it has changed

frigid kite Oct 18, 2019, 10:14 AM

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Using vr.bEnableStereo 0?

sonic lake Oct 18, 2019, 10:16 AM

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https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/API/Runtime/HeadMountedDisplay/IHeadMountedDisplay/EnableHMD/index.html

IHeadMountedDisplay::EnableHMD

Enables or disables switching to stereo.

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Or the BP equivalent

frigid kite Oct 18, 2019, 10:28 AM

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Hmm, I'd like to test it, but the S I have available just completely fried

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Plugged it in, did a firmware upgrade, everything went fine. Went into VR, clicked the Home button on the dash, and the screen goes black and the speakers output noise. Restarting the Oculus app / PC didn't help, and there doesn't seem to be a factory reset for the HMD itself? :<

frigid kite Oct 18, 2019, 10:59 AM

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Alright, back in action after reinstalling the Oculus app

frigid kite Oct 18, 2019, 11:30 AM

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Hmm, it's still failing 😧

sonic lake Oct 18, 2019, 11:51 AM

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@frigid kite Is that a shipment build? Can you do a dev build to have some tracking of what is going on? Anything in the log files?

sturdy coral Oct 18, 2019, 12:23 PM

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@frigid kite not sure it is your issue because I haven't been testing with oculus sdk in a long time (doing it all through steamvr now), but this was a fix I made:

Date:   Thu Mar 15 00:41:44 2018 -0400

    Fix oculus GetHMDWornState to create a session

    4.17 changed GetHMDWornState to return false when stereo is off because
    the session would be invalid.  This change creates a session inside
    GetHMDWornState if needed.

diff --git a/Engine/Plugins/Runtime/Oculus/OculusVR/Source/OculusHMD/Private/OculusHMD.cpp b/Engine/Plugins/Runtime/Oculus/OculusVR/Source/OculusHMD/Private/OculusHMD.cpp
index 867ecc09346..e207e161671 100644
--- a/Engine/Plugins/Runtime/Oculus/OculusVR/Source/OculusHMD/Private/OculusHMD.cpp
+++ b/Engine/Plugins/Runtime/Oculus/OculusVR/Source/OculusHMD/Private/OculusHMD.cpp
@@ -984,6 +984,11 @@ namespace OculusHMD

        EHMDWornState::Type FOculusHMD::GetHMDWornState()
        {
+               if (!ovrp_GetInitialized())
+               {
+                       InitializeSession();
+               }
+

compact kettle Oct 18, 2019, 12:27 PM

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Guys, you're all clever, right? Have a logic thingy where some of you may have an idea.
Objective is to accurately measure the length of the users arms and figure out the hands resting position - with one caviat, which is that we cannot just have them drop their hands by their side, as the Rift S and Reverb don't have good enough tracking down there.

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We tried this, which obviously would have been the perfect soluton, but the controllers jump too much around when loosing tracking. It also has to be super easy to do (for the user), so currently we're experimenting with just having them hold their hands like a zombie, but then we somehow have to infer the arm length from the HMD location to the hand locations.

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maybe some of you have a brilliant idea I just didn't think of yet, which removes some of the guess work

frigid kite Oct 18, 2019, 12:29 PM

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@sturdy coral So you were experiencing similar problems which led you to creating that fix?

tired tree Oct 18, 2019, 12:30 PM

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@compact kettle you can figure it out as well from holding them straight out in front of you

sturdy coral Oct 18, 2019, 12:30 PM

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yes, I don't remember the exact problem and I'm not sure it went away after a delay

tired tree Oct 18, 2019, 12:30 PM

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just have to use a shoulder estimation

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not only that, but would be fairly easy to check level as well

frigid kite Oct 18, 2019, 12:31 PM

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@sonic lake Nothing of interest is happening in the logs last time I checked. It's also hard to reproduce consistently, it seems to be more of an issue on the computers on which it is running in the permanent exhibition 😕

compact kettle Oct 18, 2019, 12:32 PM

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@tired tree Maybe you have some better way of estimation than what I thought of so far, but we have to make it really accurate, as that data is used to calibrate some sensitive zones around the users torso. For my body, it works just taking that distance and multiplying it by 1.33, but the thing is that this has to work with anybody

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and this 1.33 was just trial and error estimate of me.

frigid kite Oct 18, 2019, 12:32 PM

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@sturdy coral But the pull request was not accepted, then? 😦

tired tree Oct 18, 2019, 12:32 PM

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you could sample across a swing? would get the shoulder pivot and you can rotate to facing straight down by the length and that pivot @compact kettle

sturdy coral Oct 18, 2019, 12:33 PM

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@frigid kite not a pull request, that was just a commit from my branch

frigid kite Oct 18, 2019, 12:33 PM

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ah alright

sturdy coral Oct 18, 2019, 12:33 PM

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I've kept it up to date but haven't tested it since I moved off of oculus sdk

sonic lake Oct 18, 2019, 12:34 PM

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@frigid kite Could be a graphics driver issue as well.

frigid kite Oct 18, 2019, 12:34 PM

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Hmm I'd like to give it a go, but the project is on launcher 4.22, and I don't think I can get the time to work on it to switch to a custom engine build

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@sonic lake Could be, but they're all up to date at least

compact kettle Oct 18, 2019, 12:35 PM

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@tired tree Yeah that's a good idea. However, it's a calibration step that each user would need to do, and we aren't a game, so our target audience (sorry to say) may be a bit... well... not so tech savy 😅 We ship to enterprises, and their employees use it. So we try to make it basically idiot-safe

sonic lake Oct 18, 2019, 12:35 PM

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@frigid kite I have had erratic behavior form the latest NVidia drivers. Had to use DDU to uninstall them completely and rollback to the version recommended by the computer manufacturer.

tired tree Oct 18, 2019, 12:36 PM

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@compact kettle easy enough, have them reach straight out to something, then move it down a bit and re-sample at the slightly lower bit

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only really need two points, get converging or closest average, treat as pivot

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can even make that part of a menu entry

compact kettle Oct 18, 2019, 12:36 PM

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Good idea.. I was thinking about them just grabbing virtual objects and putting them by their side, which would remove the tracking issues, but that really sounds a lot easier..

tired tree Oct 18, 2019, 12:37 PM

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moving objects would work too

compact kettle Oct 18, 2019, 12:37 PM

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Will run it by my boss, he kinda doesn't want it to include any movement, but I think that's a good idea

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Well... Actually - could you really infer the shoulder socket from that? I am not great in maths, to be quite frank. Wouldn't that require us to know the angle the hands moved?

sturdy coral Oct 18, 2019, 12:38 PM

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@compact kettle "calibrate some sensitive zones around the users torso" you mean like reaching a holster?

compact kettle Oct 18, 2019, 12:38 PM

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well, not a holster in our case, but essentially a similar system. We are a public speaking trainer and judge the user based on where he has his hands throughout his practice sessions

tired tree Oct 18, 2019, 12:38 PM

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@compact kettle you move the reach point straight down from the original straight up, you can track if the hand moves over

sturdy coral Oct 18, 2019, 12:39 PM

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ah ok yeah that could require something more precise than I was thinking

tired tree Oct 18, 2019, 12:39 PM

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but yeah, inverse of forward vector from plane of hand - hmd to get line back, find converging point on the two lines or closest to converging

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should work?

compact kettle Oct 18, 2019, 12:40 PM

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uhhhh... 😂 maybe? Certainly will test it out. I always need quite some time to think about everything concerning rotations

tired tree Oct 18, 2019, 12:40 PM

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might take a bit of work though

compact kettle Oct 18, 2019, 12:40 PM

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thats my weak spot, those god damn rotations 😛

tired tree Oct 18, 2019, 12:41 PM

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for the resting position they could lower their head too

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at some point if you want high enough precision, you are going to need calibration

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kind of a hard ask unless you are ok with sampling over time and adjusting

compact kettle Oct 18, 2019, 12:42 PM

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yeah that was my first suggestion, just make them look at their hands.. but for some reason by boss doesn't like that idea 🙄

sturdy coral Oct 18, 2019, 12:43 PM

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does vr chat have an arm calibration step?

tired tree Oct 18, 2019, 12:43 PM

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yeah

compact kettle Oct 18, 2019, 12:43 PM

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do they? May check out what they do then

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they prob won't need it as precisely as us though

tired tree Oct 18, 2019, 12:43 PM

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they also aren't aiming for perfection though, they keep the shoulders on the models

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you can align some things though in it

sturdy coral Oct 18, 2019, 12:43 PM

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ah true

tired tree Oct 18, 2019, 12:44 PM

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pretty much i think their ik is mostly pointing the arms in your controller directions

compact kettle Oct 18, 2019, 12:44 PM

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so, just going back to this zombie-pose for a second.. excuse this monstrosity, but..

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📎 unknown.png

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essentially, I just need a way to estimate this orange part precisely

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so the orange part can obviously be expressed as a fraction of the red part, but the question is, would that scalar stay equal for some tall shmuck like me to someone tiny

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and thanks for all the help btw

sturdy coral Oct 18, 2019, 12:49 PM

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maybe just hmd socket to head bone world space delta in ref pose, after scaling to user's height

frigid kite Oct 18, 2019, 12:49 PM

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@compact kettle Just wait for hand tracking to come out for the Quest? 👼

compact kettle Oct 18, 2019, 12:49 PM

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@frigid kite If only we would ship to the quest 😦 😄

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Well, with Oculus Link we will, but that kinda wouldn't help in this situation anway, I guess

sturdy coral Oct 18, 2019, 12:51 PM

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you could guess at exact orange part by having them turn their head and solving for the pivot but due to leaning and stuff it could end up less accurate than just a height based heuristic

compact kettle Oct 18, 2019, 12:52 PM

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yeah, I guess the pivot point really would be pretty close to the shoulder joints

tired tree Oct 18, 2019, 12:53 PM

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if they are zombie, the width between the hands should be pretty close to the shoulder width

compact kettle Oct 18, 2019, 12:53 PM

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maybe we'll have them do like an "eye calibration" with "look here, then look there" while having their arms like a zombie. But optimally, it would be a one-action thing. But starting to think that won't be possible without accepting that you have to do some guess work

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@tired tree It's not really about the shoulder width for us. Essentially, we also don't care too much about the exact arm length itself, we just need to know the resting position of the hands, like when you just drop them by your side.

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(while having both would be optimal though)

tired tree Oct 18, 2019, 12:54 PM

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well you kind of need to model it a bit if you actually aren't going to calibrate to the actual pose is the point

compact kettle Oct 18, 2019, 12:55 PM

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yeah

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Just trying to make it all accurate as possible. So, when you have them move their hands extended into zombie and then have them drop it down a little (while keeping them extended) - I think you would be able to calculate the center of the projected circle by this motion, right?

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I'll just run some of those new ideas by my boss. Thanks again guys!

tired tree Oct 18, 2019, 1:01 PM

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@compact kettle yeah you can get forward vector from the two hands - head normal, then average that to get forward vector

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then you can sample on an extended down swing or three points if you don't want to try and get head pivot, should get enough points to get the circle center

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can project them onto the right vector plane of that original forward vector sample

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since you'll already know the width from that at the same time

carmine yoke Oct 18, 2019, 4:19 PM

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Anyone been using Vulkan for Oculus Quest?

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I'm seeming to get the odd pink artefact for some reason, anyone know anything about this?

mighty carbon Oct 18, 2019, 4:20 PM

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I didn't notice anything like that in my project

carmine yoke Oct 18, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Let me try and take a screenshot]

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📎 IMG_0017.PNG

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@mighty carbon

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see that bit of pink on the corner of the painting?

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I get that kind of thing every so often

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Seemingly randomly

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Sometimes they dissappear/reappear when I move it over the boundaries of FFR

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But theres no constistency like sometime they disappear if i move them in the centre of my vision sometimes they disappear when I move them out into the FFR edge

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Proper weird

mighty carbon Oct 18, 2019, 4:45 PM

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what kind of material is that? I have fully rough materials all around.

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either way, make a clean project with same settings and same material. If you can reproduce, sent it to Epic and Oculus with bug report.

carmine yoke Oct 18, 2019, 5:29 PM

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Okay, will do, thanks

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@mighty carbon

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📎 unknown.png

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It's not particularly complex

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anyway I'll check it out on an empty one

mighty carbon Oct 18, 2019, 5:32 PM

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not complex, but might not be supported in Vulkan on mobile VR

carmine yoke Oct 18, 2019, 5:32 PM

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True

mighty carbon Oct 18, 2019, 5:32 PM

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plug texture sample into Base Color directly and see if you still get artifacts

carmine yoke Oct 18, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Yeah it doesn't have the artefact anymore

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So maybe it was something to do with the lightmass

mighty carbon Oct 18, 2019, 6:33 PM

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or desaturation node

sturdy canyon Oct 18, 2019, 7:11 PM

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@carmine yoke I get that artifact as well.

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It’s a texture corruption usually in the mipmaps of not-quite random textures

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It showed up in renderdoc inside the captured textures

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I don’t know what caused it, and I reported it to Rémi, but he seemed to have more important things to do

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I was able to shuffle around the corruption by adjusting the size of my gpu particle texture in the render settings and now it almost always currupts an unimportant portion of one button texture

carmine yoke Oct 18, 2019, 7:15 PM

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Hmm

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That texture wasn't mipmapped though

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It's not a square

sturdy canyon Oct 18, 2019, 7:16 PM

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I have seen it in the base texture before. I might just be getting lucky most of the time

carmine yoke Oct 18, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Yeah, tbh I don't see it too often and it doesn't really bother me, I mean we're still at such early stage of quest development, It can only get better

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Did you submit a bug report?

sturdy canyon Oct 18, 2019, 7:18 PM

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Not a formal one. Just an email

carmine yoke Oct 18, 2019, 7:19 PM

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Ok I might do it, just to put it on the system

polar valve Oct 19, 2019, 10:41 AM

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Is anyone using Vulkan for the Quest? Is it worth switching?

sturdy canyon Oct 19, 2019, 12:26 PM

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Are you cpu draw bound?

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If so, it’s probably worth switching

thin solstice Oct 19, 2019, 7:23 PM

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@polar valve Forgive me because I'm really new to Unreal, but would there be a reason NOT to switch to Vulkan?

mighty carbon Oct 19, 2019, 7:31 PM

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not really

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but it's a relatively new API and thus still has some quirks/bugs and might not support everything ES3.1 supports

polar valve Oct 19, 2019, 7:44 PM

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Yeah I'm usually wary about switching to new tech mid project. Main reason I want to switch is the hitches I'm getting on the quest due to shaders compiling and setting up caching seems to be a pita. But I tried it with vulkan and the hitches were still there along with some graphical bugs. And somehow the framerate was way worse with Vulkan. I'll do some more testing though.

mighty carbon Oct 19, 2019, 8:11 PM

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what version of UE4 are you on @polar valve ?

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cuz shader caching came in with 4.21 https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Support/Builds/ReleaseNotes/4_21/index.html

Unreal Engine 4.21 Release Notes

Release Notes for Unreal Engine 4.21

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r.ProgramBinaryCache.Enable=1

polar valve Oct 19, 2019, 8:12 PM

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4.23 custom oculus build

mighty carbon Oct 19, 2019, 8:12 PM

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well, then it's just r.ProgramBinaryCache.Enable=1

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nothing complex about it

polar valve Oct 19, 2019, 8:13 PM

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Do you know if it works on the quest?

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I couldn't get it to work

mighty carbon Oct 19, 2019, 8:13 PM

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I never had any hitches, so I never even used that

polar valve Oct 19, 2019, 8:14 PM

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Do you use a lot of particle effects?

mighty carbon Oct 19, 2019, 8:16 PM

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nope

polar valve Oct 19, 2019, 8:16 PM

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I get 70-400ms hitches every time I load in a new particle on the quest

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Would be nice if I can get it to work

mighty carbon Oct 19, 2019, 8:17 PM

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perhaps it has nothing to do with shader caching ?

polar valve Oct 19, 2019, 8:17 PM

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From profiling it seems like it's just the shader compilation

mighty carbon Oct 19, 2019, 8:20 PM

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have you reported this issue to both Epic and Oculus ?

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maybe the fix can make it into 4.23.1 or .2

polar valve Oct 19, 2019, 8:22 PM

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I think it's a known issue, can't hurt to report it though I guess

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https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Engine/Rendering/PSOCaching/index.html this is the alternative I was looking at

PSO Caching

The Pipeline State Object (PSO) caching tools help reduce the time it takes to reload an Unreal Engine 4 (UE4) level and it's content.

mighty carbon Oct 20, 2019, 2:21 AM

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has anyone been able to build Oculus fork of 4.23.0 with GPULightmass ?

mighty carbon Oct 20, 2019, 2:50 AM

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nm, just did and then accidentally hit Rebuild on the UE4 project 🤦 fml

brazen burrow Oct 20, 2019, 9:22 AM

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could someone please help me with packaging for quest on the 4.23 oculus branch? when I click the button to package Android (ASTC), I get redirected to the ue4 docs

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here are my android project settings:

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📎 sdk.png

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📎 android.png

brazen burrow Oct 20, 2019, 10:14 AM

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by the way, I can launch and play the game on my quest using the project launcher, but packaging it is no good.

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side question: is it normal that "Launching on ..." gets stuck and you have to cancel the task by turning off the quest?

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like so:

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📎 launch.png

brazen burrow Oct 20, 2019, 11:07 AM

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ok, I solved the first issue

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now it's packaging 😄

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for anyone with the same issue, I just had to add a NDKROOT env var to point to E:\NVPACK\android-ndk-r14b

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but I'm still wondering about my side question

polar valve Oct 20, 2019, 11:09 AM

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It's normal, it should launch the build on the quest and keeps running until you quit the game

brazen burrow Oct 20, 2019, 11:09 AM

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awesome, thanks!

polar valve Oct 20, 2019, 11:11 AM

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🙂

pulsar dome Oct 20, 2019, 4:46 PM

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(Using VR template) At times in my game the hands for the motioncontrollers can lag a bit behind where they're supposed to be, is there any fix for this or is it just a matter of optimization?

orchid schooner Oct 20, 2019, 9:22 PM

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make shipping build and check

pulsar dome Oct 20, 2019, 11:37 PM

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Thanks wad, I'll check

pulsar dome Oct 21, 2019, 2:31 AM

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@orchid schooner So I checked with a shipping build, the lag is still kinda bad on just one of the levels which is curious because that's the level with the least amount of stuff so I'll look at that, but besides that it improves

cold siren Oct 21, 2019, 6:43 AM

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Any one know where I can find the Rift S/Quest Motion controller 3d models with accurate origin and orientation?

willow trail Oct 21, 2019, 8:46 AM

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Has anyone ever seen weird motion controller behaviour like that with the SteamVR Plugin?
This is on UE 4.23, develop version of the plugin with a Valve Index.
https://puu.sh/Ev5q5/4099fe969a.mp4

▶ Play video

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(Not a tracking issue by the way, it otherwise works fine in the menu)

willow trail Oct 21, 2019, 9:16 AM

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Same thing happens with the 4.24 dev version

carmine yoke Oct 21, 2019, 10:54 AM

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@cold siren They're in the oculus branch of ue4

cold siren Oct 21, 2019, 11:31 AM

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on the oculus git i could only find the CV1 models

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i ended up finding them via this https://developer.oculus.com/downloads/package/touch-accessory-guidelines/

tired tree Oct 21, 2019, 12:19 PM

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@willow trail you on visual studio 2019 and the latest patch for it?

willow trail Oct 21, 2019, 12:50 PM

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Yes (if not I'm only a few days behind, installed it very recently)

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@tired tree I'm not using VS though, I'm letting the engine compile it itself

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But I suppose it's using VS toolchain

tired tree Oct 21, 2019, 12:52 PM

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@willow trail latest VS 2019 is broken with the engine currently

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screws over a bunch of the transform calcs

willow trail Oct 21, 2019, 12:52 PM

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Ooohh okay

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How does that happen?

tired tree Oct 21, 2019, 12:54 PM

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compiler is bugged

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its happened before

willow trail Oct 21, 2019, 12:54 PM

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Jesus

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That's the last place I'd look for

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Any easy way to swap out the compiler with an earlier version?

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I don't really use Visual Studio

tired tree Oct 21, 2019, 12:57 PM

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think there is a convoluted downgrade method

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but likelyeasier to reinstall

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on an earlier version

willow trail Oct 21, 2019, 12:57 PM

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Hmm alright, you wouldn't happen to know the last functional version?

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You have to update VS to uninstall it.

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Love it

willow trail Oct 21, 2019, 3:12 PM

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Downgrading to 16.2.0 fixed it. And I was then able to fix my previous issue of not being able to package a game!

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Or rather of not having inputs work correctly in a packaged game

white fern Oct 21, 2019, 4:43 PM

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Anyone know where .pak files are stored on Quest?

carmine yoke Oct 21, 2019, 5:28 PM

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@white fern The unreal game folder? or the exact .pak?

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The folder structure is /sdcard/UE4Game/YourGame

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pretty sure

mighty carbon Oct 21, 2019, 5:32 PM

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4.23.1 is finally out!

white fern Oct 21, 2019, 6:15 PM

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@carmine yoke I'm looking for the location of the .pak file of an Unreal project on device. I'm not seeing it in /sdcard/UE4Game/*

mighty carbon Oct 21, 2019, 6:16 PM

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what makes you think it will be there ?

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It should be where .apk was installed

carmine yoke Oct 21, 2019, 7:09 PM

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I use that root to access my game folder at runtime is all I'm saying

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Where the pak is exactly - not 100% sure, would have to check

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if you want it as a root on your pc then just plug it in and find it it in the quest's external storage

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if you're wanting it at runtime - I think it will be somewhere below that folder i mentioned @white fern

white fern Oct 21, 2019, 7:13 PM

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@carmine yoke I've already looked there, but it appears to not be in that folder. I've had the quest plugged in and have looked at it's internal storage, but what I've found it that certain files clearly don't appear in the shared storage (for instance, installed applications don't seem to show up in that storage until they are run for the first time and generate files in that shared storage space)

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@mighty carbon How do I know where the .apk installs to?

carmine yoke Oct 21, 2019, 7:13 PM

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Are you trying to do something at runtime?

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Or from the pc?

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/What are you trying to do...?

white fern Oct 21, 2019, 7:14 PM

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I am trying to add DLC to an Oculus Quest app.

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it doesn't have to be at runtime; from what I understand .pak mounting is done on startup anyway

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The point being that add on content doesn't have to be added while the app is running, but it does need to be added after the base app is already installed

carmine yoke Oct 21, 2019, 7:15 PM

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But you're adding it using your pc right?

white fern Oct 21, 2019, 7:16 PM

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For the moment, yes

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Ultimately an app on quest will pull the needed files by itself

mighty carbon Oct 21, 2019, 7:16 PM

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@white fern https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2507960/does-android-keep-the-apk-files-if-so-where/32312241

Stack Overflow

Does Android keep the .apk files? if so where?

After android installs an application from the Marketplace, does it keep the .apk file?

Is there a standard location where Android would keep such files?

white fern Oct 21, 2019, 7:17 PM

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I've seen that @mighty carbon , but /system/ is not visible from my windows explorer.

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Apparently the device needs to be rooted.

carmine yoke Oct 21, 2019, 7:17 PM

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You might be able to do it through adb

mighty carbon Oct 21, 2019, 7:17 PM

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yeah, adb is what you use

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no need to root anything

white fern Oct 21, 2019, 7:18 PM

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Alright. I'll look into it. I'm still trying to learn all of ADB's features. Any easy way to view the whole filesystem?

mighty carbon Oct 21, 2019, 7:20 PM

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better question is how are you going to make an extra .pak file with just DLC content and how your UE4 app going to add content from that pak to the main game

carmine yoke Oct 21, 2019, 7:21 PM

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That is a better question ^

white fern Oct 21, 2019, 7:26 PM

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@mighty carbon Following this approach https://www.tomlooman.com/add-mod-support-to-your-unreal-engine-4-game/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndHNdUSRpho

Tom Looman

Add Mod-support to Unreal Engine 4 Projects - Tom Looman

Table of Contents IntroductionThe ProjectCreating the modPlugin DescriptorPlugin ContentSetup Launcher ProfilesFull Game ProfileMyFirstMod ProfileCooking your first modLoading a modDone!ReferencesReceive Updates on New Content Introduction I will be running you through the ...

YouTube

A7E7

Unreal Engine 4 Tutorial - DLC

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mighty carbon Oct 21, 2019, 7:33 PM

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"Warning: This procedure is intended for early adopters only! The pipeline may change and will receive improvements as it’s still work-in-progress."

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I haven't really heard of any work done on DLC support improvements in UE4

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tbh, I think RAGE 2 approach to DLC is a lot better and easier (at least it looks that way)

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although it requires IAP

white fern Oct 21, 2019, 7:36 PM

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That's unfortunate. Even if it's not easy, I know it's do-able even if I have to do some heavy lifting. Gears 1-3+ and ME 1-2 had DLC map content, so I know it's possible.

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Does IAP help with DLC at all?

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I thought it was just an authorization mechanism.

mighty carbon Oct 21, 2019, 7:37 PM

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Gears of War ? Those were made with UE3

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Only Gears 5 were made with UE4

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in RAGE 2 they basically released DLC and everyone got it. Only people who purchased it in-game got access to the content.

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Basically you just update your game with extra content. No mess with packaging eternal pak files and whatnot

white fern Oct 21, 2019, 7:40 PM

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@mighty carbon I know UE4 was a significant code-base revision, but I'm sure it's still possible somehow. I just don't know how and am looking for answers. The problem with that latter approach is you end up with a lot of bloat on machines that don't need the DLC.

mighty carbon Oct 21, 2019, 7:41 PM

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well, too bad 🙂

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if people don't want DLC, they'll just remove whole app from Quest

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no biggie

white fern Oct 21, 2019, 7:42 PM

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On a platform like Quest, where storage space is limited it is pretty important. So, to the point, you're telling me there currently exists no mechanism to do this in UE4 @mighty carbon ?

mighty carbon Oct 21, 2019, 7:42 PM

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I don't know anyone who did DLC for their UE4 projects as standalone content

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but like I said, if people want to play your game with DLC, space will not be an issue. If they don't, they won't be getting any updates since most likely they will delete it from their Quest

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what game are you making DLC for ?

white fern Oct 21, 2019, 7:45 PM

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Yeah, unfortunately my application is not necessarily for gaming with optional DLC. It's for a modular enterprise application.

mighty carbon Oct 21, 2019, 7:45 PM

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oh, I see

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well, those folks can afford 128Gb version of Quest I am sure

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and they won't have anything on it but your app

white fern Oct 21, 2019, 7:45 PM

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Yeah, unfortunately the DLC in this case isn't really "optional"

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128GB sounds like alot, but when you're talking about 100s-1000s of DLC modules that are between 1-4GB each it adds up.

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Thanks for your help @mighty carbon . I'll keep my eyes open for what other options are available. Really wish I had UDN access.

mighty carbon Oct 21, 2019, 7:49 PM

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100-1000s DLC modules sounds a poor design, sorry :/

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sign a custom license with Epic and you'll be on UDN 😉

mighty carbon Oct 21, 2019, 8:44 PM

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oh wow, ES2 renderer is removed from 4.24 :/

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on the other hand, "Support for the auto-instancing on mobile devices for improved CPU performance by reducing draw calls."

carmine yoke Oct 21, 2019, 9:09 PM

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Wooooop that sounds awesome ^^^

mighty carbon Oct 21, 2019, 9:16 PM

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I wonder how long it will take Oculus to roll out 4.23.1 with integration

pulsar dome Oct 22, 2019, 12:19 AM

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Does anyone have experience with replacing the VR template's hand mesh? I replaced it, changed it so that my grip animations now work, but how do I rotate the new hand skeletal mesh so that it aligns with where my hand actually is? I rotated the skeletal mesh but that messed up my right hand.

📎 1.JPG

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In game it looks like this

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For some reason they are both appearing as left hands, perhaps it isn't being communicated somewhere which hand is which?

real needle Oct 22, 2019, 12:26 AM

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Honestly, I wouldn't recommend using the VR template at all

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Look up the "VR Expansion Plugin"

pulsar dome Oct 22, 2019, 12:28 AM

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At this point in my project it's too late to backtrack

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I've looked into the VRE Plugin before but for my project's needs I really just need the template 🤷 I've expanded on it a ton in the past few months, now I'm just having troubles replacing the hand mesh

real needle Oct 22, 2019, 12:34 AM

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How would you guys recommend calibrating the height of a character mesh in VR? As it stands my character is a fixed height - it looks right to me, but anyone else who plays is either too far above or below the virtual character's head. I want the very top of the character's head to be aligned with the current HMD height at the time of button press.

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@pulsar dome I haven't looked at the template too much, but it only uses a left hand mesh - the right hand is just a flipped left hand. If you want to add a right hand with a unique mesh, create a new motion controller component and attach a static mesh component to it. Make sure you delete the old one or the logic that spawns it.

pulsar dome Oct 22, 2019, 12:38 AM

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Yeah I know that, I think I figured it out but thank you Solaris

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@real needle I would use the set tracking origin node based on whatever HMD you are using, and then *add local offset * on the Delta Location Z node and then maybe get the HMD Camera's component height subtract by the default player height and plug it into that delta location Z?

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That's just what I would do

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BTW for anyone who encounters the same problem as me, just go into the motion controller blueprint, and add those three nodes. Your numbers of course will differ based on your model but that is what solved my problem!

📎 solution.JPG

mighty carbon Oct 22, 2019, 1:41 AM

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https://youtu.be/N7yzeaVH2RA

YouTube

motorsep

Oculus Quest test 1

Testing old school visuals on Oculus Quest

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somehow it's even darker on Quest. I don't quite get it :/

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I don't have tonemapper enabled

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it's nice in the Editor, but too dark on the device and I guess brightness on the video is somewhere in between

sturdy coral Oct 22, 2019, 2:32 AM

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@mighty carbon 4.23.1 mentions something about fixing quest brightness issue I think

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N/m, was thinking of this:

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Fixed! UE-81524 SunTemple is too bright on the Oculus OpenXR runtime

mighty carbon Oct 22, 2019, 2:33 AM

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I see

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@sturdy canyon @raven halo any ideas folks ^^ ??

sturdy canyon Oct 22, 2019, 2:39 AM

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Have you considered bumping up your brightness?

mighty carbon Oct 22, 2019, 2:45 AM

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like, add more lights and indirect bounces ?

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@sturdy canyon ^^

mighty carbon Oct 22, 2019, 3:19 AM

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Here are comparison screenshots in the following order - Device, SM5 preview with Tonemapper on, SM5 preview, Vulkan/ES31 Preview

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https://i.postimg.cc/h4Q9GhHp/Quest-brightness-Device-Preview.jpg

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https://i.postimg.cc/3JgmgVrG/Quest-brightness-SM5-TMPreview.png

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https://i.postimg.cc/9QCT1bzn/Quest-brightness-SM5-Preview.png

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https://i.postimg.cc/mgj9n9H2/Quest-brightness-ES3-Preview.png

flint blade Oct 22, 2019, 5:54 AM

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Hi everyone I have a quick question, can I use occulus services like matchmaking, in app purchase etc for non vr games

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Basically my game won't run on occulus at all

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I just want to use occulus game backend service

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Am I allowed to do this?

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If so can anyone share me the official link stating the same.

raven halo Oct 22, 2019, 8:37 AM

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@mighty carbon First time I've ever seen anything like this happen? Perhaps it's an issue with the color space?

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You simply need to add the following tag to the <application> section of the manifest:
<meta-data android:name="com.oculus.application.colorspace" android:value="<your colorspace>"/>

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Supported colorspaces are:
Rec.709 - This is the color space used on Oculus Go, and most computer monitors and TVs (often referred to as sRGB)
DCI-P3 - The closest color space to Oculus Rift.
Adobe - A reference color space commonly used for photo editing.
Rec.2020 - The widest gamut, and the default color space on Oculus Quest.

orchid schooner Oct 22, 2019, 8:42 AM

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@pulsar dome turning left mesh inside-out by scaling -1 have some negative consequences. every item what you will attach to this hand will have scale -1 after detaching, and PhysX don't like scale -1, it count it as collapsing object

rich canopy Oct 22, 2019, 9:04 AM

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@mighty carbon would love to follow up with you if you manage to solve the issue as well. For me its the editor that is too dark and the quest is fine. It works but just irritating to adjust to a brightness I would like my scene to be in.

mighty carbon Oct 22, 2019, 11:09 AM

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I'll try that @raven halo thanks

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@rich canopy turn off Tonemapper in the Editor

brisk spade Oct 22, 2019, 11:40 AM

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i have aproblem with grabbing my objects in VR 😦

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my user interface is called i think

dusky moon Oct 22, 2019, 11:50 AM

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just found this node :
https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/BlueprintAPI/MotionController/MagicLeap/PlayHapticPattern/index.html

Play Haptic Pattern

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I'm wondering what's standard Motion Source names for controllers ?!

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Oh sorry I'm stupid. found it in Motion Controller component

thin solstice Oct 22, 2019, 1:01 PM

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@pulsar dome Unfortunately, I don't have an answer to your hand mesh replacement. However, I was wondering how you achieved animated custom grips? I'm new to Unreal (getting too frustrated with VR dev in Unity) and this is an area that is crucial to my project. Thanks for any links/tutorials you could provide.

mighty carbon Oct 22, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Remember there was Rift title called Climb, by Crytek ? Well, apparently it's not coming to Quest any time soon. I just checked their roadmap and I see that Quest support in Cryengine was moved to 2020

pulsar dome Oct 22, 2019, 4:04 PM

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@thin solstice If you keep reading I find my answer. Don't worry, so basically I looked everywhere and there aren't any real guides for how to go about this but if you DM me at around 4 I can definitely tell you how, it should only take an hour

sly elk Oct 22, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Is there an accurate rift s controller model around?

sonic lake Oct 22, 2019, 9:16 PM

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@sly elk it's in the Unreal Github branch of Oculus.

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mighty carbon Oct 23, 2019, 2:13 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTmO-9gmsKg

YouTube

motorsep

com oculus vrshell 20191022 205755

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apparently ticking "sRGB" on those textures made materials using them super dark. That's with "sRGB" unchecked. I don't recall having issues like this before.

carmine yoke Oct 23, 2019, 11:14 AM

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The sRBG flag info says 'This should be unchecked if using alpha channels individually as masks' But I assume that's not what you were doing @mighty carbon

mighty carbon Oct 23, 2019, 11:15 AM

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I got no masks

carmine yoke Oct 23, 2019, 11:23 AM

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Yeah... I don't get why that helps you then

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I guess all your alphas are just set to 1?

mighty carbon Oct 23, 2019, 11:31 AM

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I don't think there are any alphas in those textures

carmine yoke Oct 23, 2019, 11:40 AM

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Well then - consider me baffed

real needle Oct 23, 2019, 12:21 PM

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sooo the quest has 3 cores which applications can use. How many does Unreal actually use? Game+draw+async physics stuff or just 2 cores out of 3?

carmine yoke Oct 23, 2019, 12:47 PM

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@real needle The Snapdragon 835 has 8 cores, 4 of which are large, fast “gold” cores that run up to 2.3 Ghz. Of the four gold cores, applications have full access to 3 of them, while we reserve the fourth for TimeWarp and other system services. The remaining low-power “silver” cores are reserved for tracking and other system software. Like Oculus Go, Quest supports dynamic clock throttling, so applications can automatically scale the speed of the GPU and CPU up or down depending on their needs at the time. This lets us ensure your application has full power when needed, but also won’t burn the battery when running a lightweight scene.

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Think that means they're auto assigned depending on what's necessary at given time

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From here : https://developer.oculus.com/blog/down-the-rabbit-hole-w-oculus-quest-the-hardware-software/

real needle Oct 23, 2019, 12:50 PM

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yeah I was just daydreaming about accessing the third core for async operations since the quest has 3 and UE uses mainly 2 (game and draw)

brisk spade Oct 23, 2019, 12:54 PM

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I have a problem with my motion controllers, when editing my motion Controller with a spring arm i only get two right hands

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carmine yoke Oct 23, 2019, 12:58 PM

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@brisk spade In the VR template it Mirrors your right hand mesh to create the left - you must have turned that off or something

white fern Oct 23, 2019, 2:22 PM

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I keep getting a "Failed to install <apk path>" error from adb. Where can I see logs for this? It gives me no additional information on the console; (or, if applicable, what logcat filter should I use)

mighty carbon Oct 23, 2019, 3:08 PM

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@white fern https://twitter.com/motorsep/status/1186732479807479809 << like this one and tell Tim you'd love to see training stream about this subject too 😉

Alejandro Zuboff (@motorsep)

@TimHobsonUE4 Creating DLC pak(s) for Android project (packaging only DLC relevant content) and accessing said DLC content (let's say DLC package was downloaded through 3rd party means - when does it need to go, how to make main game "see" DLC and have it accessible in the...

white fern Oct 23, 2019, 3:34 PM

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So my solution to @white fern from about an hour ago was a good old fashioned reboot of everything.

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Anyone else been able to successfully use the built-in Motion Controller Visualization to show the correct controller for a shared Go/Quest APK?

mental halo Oct 24, 2019, 2:25 AM

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Quick question - does anyone know where to find the hand controller meshes for Oculus Quest/Rift S? Doesn't seem to be inside the engine along with the older models, or maybe I'm not looking in the right places?

hybrid plume Oct 24, 2019, 2:25 AM

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I have meshes for Quest controllers

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Forgot where I found them, but let me know I’ll send it to ya

mental halo Oct 24, 2019, 2:27 AM

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I'd love that @hybrid plume

hybrid plume Oct 24, 2019, 2:27 AM

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Gimme like an hour, I’ll be in front of my system

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What’re you working on?

mental halo Oct 24, 2019, 2:28 AM

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Awesome, I really appreciate it

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I'm making a battle simulator where you can play as a war god and create battles or fight on the ground as a mortal. It's an AI sandbox basically - I learned Unreal through it. It's been about a year into it

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https://youtu.be/Tvtner3fOFQ

YouTube

Simulated Minds LLC

Cry of Athena - Gameplay Trailer 1

Trailer was made for Oculus Launchpad 2019 application. Cry of Athena is VR battle simulator where you can play god, place units, watch them fight, intervene...

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The community Discord is in the description of the video, no pressure to join or anything, just putting it out there 🙂

hybrid plume Oct 24, 2019, 3:18 AM

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hiya

mental halo Oct 24, 2019, 3:24 AM

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Hello

hybrid plume Oct 24, 2019, 3:28 AM

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Quest controller mesh, a not too expensive gift for all you good devs out there

📎 Mesh_quest.FBX

brazen burrow Oct 24, 2019, 4:43 AM

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@mental halo hmm, reminds me of that other game

mental halo Oct 24, 2019, 4:48 AM

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@brazen burrow Totally Accurate Battle Simulator? UEBS?

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Asgard's Wrath maybe? They do have the whole switch between god mode and being smaller. I think that's as far as similarities go though since mines is focused on being a sandbox with AI across different time periods rather than a story driven RPG.

odd garnet Oct 24, 2019, 6:31 AM

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I made a VR Game Jam game yesterday

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https://potatofacejames.itch.io/jankovr

itch.io

Janko VR by PotatoFaceJames

Jenga but also not but also there's explosions and physics

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mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 8:25 AM

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In the editor its dark, in the quest its suuuper bright.

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What do I do wrong?

hybrid plume Oct 24, 2019, 9:49 AM

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shaders issue most likely

frigid kite Oct 24, 2019, 10:08 AM

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@mild trail Switch to OpenGL ES3 preview in the editor?

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 10:35 AM

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@frigid kite Yeah okey now I see that it in fact is overbright, the real question is what do I do about it.

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frigid kite Oct 24, 2019, 10:37 AM

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Figure out what the issue is - start by making sure post process exposure is off

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 10:39 AM

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right now it is set to manual

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I have tried to delete all lights in the scene.

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Just wierd that everything works perfect on the pc it self. But in VR its a mess.

frigid kite Oct 24, 2019, 10:44 AM

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The problem isn't VR, there's something wrong with the way your scene is rendered in OpenGL

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What does the scene look like in Unlit mode?

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And can you try disabling exposure alltogether?

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 10:46 AM

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I have delete turned post process volume off

frigid kite Oct 24, 2019, 10:50 AM

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Can you check that all recommended settings are used in your project? https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/quest/latest/concepts/unreal-oculus-utilities-window/

Easy Initial Project Settings

Describes the initial Unreal development environment settings.

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 11:04 AM

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Select Edit > Project Settings.
Scroll down and select Plugins > OculusVR.

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I dont have that

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the oculus vr plugin is enabled

frigid kite Oct 24, 2019, 11:05 AM

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Very strange

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what engine version are you on?

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 11:06 AM

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4.23

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tried to turn it off and back on, no help

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restarted the engine both times

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https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/922678/view.html

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this says something about the oculus software. But what oculus software?

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https://www.oculus.com/setup/ it says oculus rift but im guessing its this software that I am missing.

Oculus Setup

Download VR software on your PC to set up Oculus Rift S and Oculus Rift. Download the Oculus mobile app on your phone to set up Oculus Quest and Oculus Go.

frigid kite Oct 24, 2019, 11:48 AM

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Yeah you need that tool to do anything with Oculus headsets, I'm not sure how you are using the Quest without it

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 11:50 AM

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well I have just installed it and it asked if I got a rift og rift S

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I picked the rift and went on even tho its not correct.

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it told me to update my grapics card driver, so I am doing that right now.

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cant imagine this software has anything to do with the Quest. I cant complete my installation because it expects a different headset to be plugged in and sensors too.

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I have the app for it on the Ipad, cant do much on that tho.

frigid kite Oct 24, 2019, 12:08 PM

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Ah right, the Quest is set up through the mobile app, nevermind :x

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 12:08 PM

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And I have done that

frigid kite Oct 24, 2019, 12:08 PM

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Yeah my bad

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 12:08 PM

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np

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still strange I dont have that menu

frigid kite Oct 24, 2019, 12:09 PM

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it is

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 12:10 PM

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https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/922678/view.html

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guess it is as they say it here

frigid kite Oct 24, 2019, 12:10 PM

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Ah well, too bad they removed it :x

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I've recently discovered that only people who have never installed Oculus software (for Rift) are not seeing the plugin options in 4.23 project settings. I'll need to see if this is intentional.

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just started the editor AFTER i launched the oculus software and now i can see the plugin in the list... so alex was right 🙂

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Try that?

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 12:13 PM

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hah just uninstalled that software 🙂

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reinstalling now

frigid kite Oct 24, 2019, 12:14 PM

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In the mean time, how are your materials set up? Just pretty basic stuff or anything special, emissive or something like that?

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 12:15 PM

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it is all vray stuff going thru datasmith. I have tried to remove emissive materials guessed that was the problem at one point but its not.

frigid kite Oct 24, 2019, 12:15 PM

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And did you try rebaking after removing the lights?

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 12:15 PM

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nope

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gonna try that

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the build button is now all greyed out

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diabling the preview helped

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still overbright

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frigid kite Oct 24, 2019, 12:23 PM

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So there are no lights in the scene, and lighting has been built?

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 12:23 PM

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yes

frigid kite Oct 24, 2019, 12:23 PM

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And emissive?

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 12:24 PM

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disabled

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no lights left

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frigid kite Oct 24, 2019, 12:31 PM

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Can you add 1 directional light? It seems to be just unlit now

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 12:32 PM

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it is in unlit mode 🙂

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okey just deleted a bunch of stuff and now it all turned black, gonna back track what I did.

frigid kite Oct 24, 2019, 12:34 PM

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@mild trail well it should be all black without any lights

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 12:35 PM

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sorry cant share my file

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@frigid kite true, so I just have done something right 🙂

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is there a way to turn down all lights as a percentage or something?

frigid kite Oct 24, 2019, 12:40 PM

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Reducing the exposure

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 12:50 PM

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tried that at first but at -30 it was totally blurry

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and still overbright

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well it is working now but it is with the wrong lights

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so I have to find a way to turn down my lights

hybrid plume Oct 24, 2019, 12:51 PM

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@mild trail have you tried to deploy the vanilla VR template to Quest?

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 12:52 PM

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yes, my template is based on that

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you do mean the one with the blue boxes that you can pickup right?

hybrid plume Oct 24, 2019, 12:53 PM

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Yes did that cook ok?

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 12:58 PM

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yes

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I just think that there is too much power in my lights

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problem is that it is IES light profiles

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If I turn them all down I cant count on the amount of light in the shop.

hybrid plume Oct 24, 2019, 12:59 PM

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Turn off all lights and place a simple “l” + “click” point light on the map

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 1:00 PM

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dont understand

hybrid plume Oct 24, 2019, 1:01 PM

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Hold down the “L” button on your keyboard and click the left mouse button

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 1:01 PM

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oh yes well I have done that

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it works with that

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hybrid plume Oct 24, 2019, 1:02 PM

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There you go 👏👏

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 1:03 PM

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been walking around the shop, but problem is still. I need all the spots that the technician have placed in the store.

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just found out that I can only do a 60m2 guardian

tired tree Oct 24, 2019, 1:24 PM

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@mild trail you can turn the guardian off entirely if it is 1:1

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 1:42 PM

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yes, was thinking that I might be able to find a large building in the company 🙂

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and spread out some crackers to do the outer bounds, then at least I can hear if I run too far 😉

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@tired tree I have now the oculus application running and started up the editor and now I have it!

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mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 2:16 PM

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Testing now, all my spot lights are 2308 lm changing them to 10% of the light.

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 4:20 PM

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@tired tree It all turned out pretty well in the end, thanks for your help.

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tired tree Oct 24, 2019, 4:25 PM

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@mild trail think you meant LLorkan

mild trail Oct 24, 2019, 4:29 PM

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@frigid kite Thanks for your help, it turned out pretty well. Still got alot of work to do but its a nice start.

carmine yoke Oct 24, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Is it possible to use the GPUvisualiser with Quest?

chrome tinsel Oct 24, 2019, 6:38 PM

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u mean gpu profile

nimble edge Oct 24, 2019, 7:45 PM

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@carmine yoke I haven't used the UE4 profiler for Quest, but have you checked out OVRTools?

sage gulch Oct 24, 2019, 7:52 PM

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what's the best practice for making multilayer procedural animated 2d assets in vr? render a camera view to a texture or something? last I looked there were problems with 2d compositing in certain workflows but that was a year or more ago

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I remember the traditional method for drawing HUD elements wouldn't work etc

nimble edge Oct 24, 2019, 8:04 PM

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@carmine yoke This leads me to believe it's possible, just haven't had the need to, yet:
https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/quest/latest/concepts/unreal-debug-quest/?locale=en_US#unreal-profiler-tool

Oculus Quest: Testing and Performance Analysis

Performance recommendations for the Oculus Quest.

mighty carbon Oct 24, 2019, 8:50 PM

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https://trello.com/c/rVPJvVzX

Trello

Variable Rate Shading

Quest support. More platforms to come in future releases.

Labels

VR / AR

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Sounds like a good thing, right ?

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what about this ? https://trello.com/c/NrPjINFb

Trello

XR Input Refactor

Deprecation of motion controller keys. Moving to explicit binding methodology based on OpenXR.

Labels

VR / AR

carmine yoke Oct 24, 2019, 9:53 PM

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I mean this one ^

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@nimble edge @chrome tinsel

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I know you can use the profiler - but that's more helpful with CPU stuff

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I need to look at GPU side

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and yes, I can use renderdoc, but ngl - that is so complex I barely even know what I'm looking at

carmine yoke Oct 24, 2019, 10:29 PM

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I might try out the snapdragon profiler instead

tired tree Oct 24, 2019, 11:58 PM

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@mighty carbon yeah the input is a great thing

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been waiting for that...

mighty carbon Oct 25, 2019, 12:01 AM

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what about Variable Rate Shading on Quest ? Shouldn't it boost performance ?

tired tree Oct 25, 2019, 12:47 AM

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yes

mighty carbon Oct 25, 2019, 2:22 AM

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ah, sweet

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my guess is that Oculus fork will pop up after new years, which will be probably March :/

mental halo Oct 25, 2019, 4:31 AM

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Anyone use custom depth pass in their VR project? I'm using it to highlight pickups that people hover their hands over but while it works in Editor, the highlights don't appear in the packaged build

pearl tangle Oct 25, 2019, 4:57 AM

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@mental halo What device are you trying to use?

mental halo Oct 25, 2019, 5:04 AM

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HTC Vive and Oculus. Tested it on Vive so far. Good in editor, no dice in packaged build or Launch Game

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Custom render depth should work in VR right? Anyone have a project using it and had it work in packaged? Hopefully it's just something on my end and not custom render depth in VR in general

devout bison Oct 25, 2019, 5:23 AM

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whats up everyone

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can anyone give me some insight on how to use screen space widgets with VR?

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currently my widgets are rendered once, like without VR

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the blue circle marks widgets which should be on the object i marked with blue arrows

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currently widgets are rendered like its not in vr

hybrid plume Oct 25, 2019, 5:52 AM

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Are you using widget interaction on your hand?

frigid kite Oct 25, 2019, 7:20 AM

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@mild trail No problem, good luck 👍

mild trail Oct 25, 2019, 8:00 AM

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Anyone know why the floor is not precisely at floor level, and what to do about it? I tried to align it with the controller when I made the guardian shield.

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little scaffold Oct 25, 2019, 8:57 AM

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@devout bison look into stereo layers

orchid schooner Oct 25, 2019, 9:47 AM

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it is just a screen widgets, but you need an objects with attached widgets for vr

dusky moon Oct 25, 2019, 12:53 PM

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Since I updated my OBS I can't record my VR Preview "Window Capture" anymore it just shows as black. is it just me ?!

nimble edge Oct 25, 2019, 3:58 PM

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@mental halo It definitely does work. I have a packaged project that custom depth is being used to highlight items when they are within "grabbing distance." There must be something in your project giving you guff.

sturdy coral Oct 25, 2019, 5:39 PM

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@tired tree is that input thing in github already?

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maybe this? https://github.com/EpicGames/UnrealEngine/commit/31162d9c8e0d2afb95b73757616dd5ec206db203

mental halo Oct 25, 2019, 5:45 PM

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@nimble edge I see, that helps narrow it down. Thanks for the confirmation

tired tree Oct 26, 2019, 12:44 AM

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@sturdy coral nah, that is just the openXR hacky way to get it working for now

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they intend to overhaul all of the input pretty sure

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so you can directly call actions without keys and the like

sturdy coral Oct 26, 2019, 12:44 AM

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ah ok that could be really nice

brazen burrow Oct 26, 2019, 6:29 AM

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is there a good way to get really accurate motion controller velocity and angular velocity? I know of the "attach a sphere collider" trick but I'm wondering if there's a better method nowadays.

sturdy canyon Oct 26, 2019, 6:40 AM

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You can just cache last frame’s transform and compute it when needed

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Some platforms have function calls to directly query velocity, and angular velocity

brazen burrow Oct 26, 2019, 6:43 AM

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by platform, do you mean vive/oculus/etc or steamvr/oculusvr/etc?

eternal inlet Oct 27, 2019, 11:06 AM

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hi guys, anyone know what good alternatives there are to Ikinema?

spark atlas Oct 27, 2019, 11:07 AM

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Does anyone have experience with AR and SkeletalMeshes? My test mesh refuses to show up. The StaticMesh I put underneath displays fine.

eternal inlet Oct 27, 2019, 11:07 AM

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alternatively, how difficult will it be to make a reasonable ok ik-solver for hands to chest?

spark atlas Oct 27, 2019, 11:08 AM

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Psshh you of all people probably will find a good way to make your own ik solver! 💪

eternal inlet Oct 27, 2019, 11:09 AM

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me? i know nothing about ik-solving... but wouldn't mind investigating it for sure

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i wonder if there are some good starter papers/articles to read up on the topic?

spark atlas Oct 27, 2019, 11:26 AM

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I remember a coworker having done quite a lot of experimenting, since we originally intended to use iKinema as well but then the price pretty much was a no-deal, for only having one or two characters that require it

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but there is some premade ik chain stuff in the Animation Blueprints (LegIK, TwoBoneIK, etc) , so if you combine that with tracing for locations (as foot placement tutorials do it, for example) then that should get you where you want to go, I assume X:

tired tree Oct 27, 2019, 12:28 PM

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those ik solutions have no joint limits

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only built in IK node with joint limits is the new CCDIK node, and it is a ball and socket limit, so not that useful for say, elbows

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you can get away with running arm ik off of these, but you will end up with unnattural poses fairly often

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@eternal inlet the parger paper is a reproducable shoulder / arm IK setup with very good results (needs some tweaks from brief implementation) and example code

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFWKp4UiuFk

YouTube

okreylos

Inverse Kinematics Upper Body Model

Early experiments with an Inverse Kinematics-driven upper body model, based purely on tracking data available from commodity VR headsets, namely head positio...

▶ Play video

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doc-ok did some testing with a modified Quaternion version of it

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other than that, there are a couple of ik solutions on the marketplace

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and some full limit papers around that could be used to extend the built in nodes

eternal inlet Oct 27, 2019, 2:08 PM

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@tired tree nice, thanks @tired tree i'll look into it and see if it's something i think i can do

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on a sidenote, IKinema has been acquired by Apple, so atm everything points towards us indie dev licensees are getting screwed over

wary yoke Oct 27, 2019, 2:14 PM

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guys how can i record motion controller component's transform to sequencer?
i made a pawn with the components and a mesh child to it, and i dont know where to continue from there

eternal inlet Oct 27, 2019, 2:15 PM

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personally i haven't used the sequencer really, but if the problem is that the components are getting tracked, then make two seperate actors that on tick follow the locations of the motioncontrollers

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im sure someone else has a better solution though