virtual-reality

[warped breach]

my previous test with physics handle was C++ and involved a pawn with no limbs, idk how much that changes things

but i know something about attaching the constraint, breaks it

and the same thing that was happening with the constraint, appears to be happening with the handle

which is why im wondering if i plugged the handle in properly, since im now using blueprints, not C++

but i know i did the constraint properly, cause that worked when it wasnt attached to the character.

[tired tree]

is your hand colliding with the held object?

if so, it shouldn't be

[warped breach]

I messed with collision channels and it didnt seem to fix anything. I'm testing constraint again in physics room

If it doesnt work, then ill try the handle again

[mighty carbon]

soo, tried Doom VFR

looking good, runs well, controls are awkward but usable, locomotion is surprisingly well done as far as motion sickness goes

a lot of bugs in general though 😦

[warped breach]

How did they handle locomotion?

[mighty carbon]

dash teleport

[warped breach]

I just have the touchpad behaving like a joystick on my game, and i dont get motion sickness

only thing that bothers me a tiny bit, is rotating too fast using the other remote, instead of rotating my head

but running and walking with a controller, seems cool

and if i do a fake jog while doing it, kinda feels real

what is dash teleport?

oh, i see now

i need to google what motion sickness actually is, because im not sure ive had it xD

okay yeah, what i thought

[mighty carbon]

lol

that's too bad, because a lot of people have motion sickness induced by WASD-like locomotion in VR

[warped breach]

im just surprised, because i thought moving via controller would be instant illness, and it isnt lol

really? 😮

i always hear the claim, but never know anyone personally

id like to meet someone, so i can ask them what part

if its all movement, or just rotation

cause spinning around really fast without physically spinning, is kind of icky lol

I got two systems atm.

One uses your HMD like mouse-look, so thats how you rotate.. and the WASD is a joystick on the touchpad, but W is always where you're looking, just like normal

Second is the other remotes touchpad does rotation, but the rotation has to be slow, because fast with that is gross, i dont like it haha

I'm experimenting with it, but I'm doing my best to avoid teleportation, cause it would ruin my game.

teleporting is like hacks xD

Do people still get motion sickness if they play VR while sitting?

or if there is a smaller FOV?

[uneven moon]

Anyone good with profiling here? I can't understand what's happening

Apparently the animation being updated is causing the fps drop but when I narrow it down by extending the dropdowns, it boils down to something that makes no difference at all performance-wise

This happens for a bunch of the skeletal meshes in my game that are animated

I start off at optimal FPS and over time drop 20-30 FPS

(wave-shooter, enemies spawn in but it's not a lot of them, there's never like more than 5-8 in the world at any given time and only a few rendered at most up close)

[wicked oak]

9 ms on character movement

seems about right

try to disable Overlap events on EVERYTHING

[uneven moon]

I do need overlap events on one trigger volume in particular

I can disable everything else

[wicked oak]

disable overlap in every enemy that moves

[uneven moon]

They have a trigger volume to detect the player, though

[wicked oak]

if you have the overlap on the character capsule its better

do not have the overlap on the mesh

ever

becouse on each tick, it will check overlap on every capsule of the physics asset

[uneven moon]

ah fair enough

I'll switch up the logic and give that a shot

Thank you

[sturdy coral]

@wicked oak you try a sale or something to capitalize on the Doom discontent 😃

[wicked oak]

lol

nah not gonna happen

but im finishing my Aquila prototype

i dont think ill put it fully public tho

pc sales of DWVR are 100% dead, PSVR is where its at

[noble crater]

how am I supposed to read the output of stat scenerendering in VR. the text is tiny

[fleet veldt]

have the hmd commands gone away in 4.18? i tried hmdpos reset and it's not workign (or am i remembering it wrong?)

ah found the new ones: https://wiki.unrealengine.com/VR_Console_Commands

[noble crater]

sorry to ask again - but any tips on how to get a more readable version of stat scenerendering in VR?

[cosmic shoal]

On this thread they suggest using "hdm mirror 2" https://forums.unrealengine.com/development-discussion/vr-ar-development/87175-vr-profiling-and-performance-thread

[noble crater]

@cosmic shoal thanks, will give it a try

@cosmic shoal doesn't seem to do anything. I'm on 4.18

[cosmic shoal]

I haven't tried it, just searching out of curiosity

[humble spoke]

Anyone have an opinions on how to handle Spells (specifically for VR, in Blueprint) I guess I could just have an actor BP_BaseSpell and base everything off that, but I don't know. I also have not used the gameplay abilities system before, is that worth looking at for this?

[sturdy coral]

@noble crater you can change virtual void GetOrthoProjection in the HMD plugins to move around overlays like that

[noble crater]

@sturdy coral thanks

[real needle]

@fleet veldt Yeah they changed it

You now use "EnableHMD" function node

[glossy flame]

If I place a ThirdPersonCharacter in the map and stand next to him in VR, I should be just a bit shorter than him right? granted I didn't eff with scaling of anything and VR is working properly. (I'm 5'7'')

[plain glade]

Hello, Is there anyway to use htc vive front camera as AR ? or is that make sense?

[sly shoal]

Hi, I just realised there's a setting called "Viewport Gets HMDControl" inside the Editor Preferences, which is really awesome, but is there a way to allow controller movement in viewport also?

[full junco]

@warped breach I'm easily getting motion sickness from any kind of unnatural movement in VR

dash teleport is fine

[nimble junco]

hey guys i could use some help

i just updatet my project from to 4.17, i did some custom stuff inside the blueprints for the leapmotion
now everything seems tow ork again, some fixes here and there but unfortunately my leap motion pawn doesnt wokr anymore like id expect it

as soon as my hands are in tracking range they stick to the outer borders of my view in VR (vive) and i cant move them

the functionalitys tho still work (i have some debugging stuff to see that, f.e. hands glow when i grab)

i think that maybe something got updatet inside the leap motion plugin aswell and now my custom blueprints dont work anymore, but i dont have the time to redo all the stuff
so my question probably would be how to quickly bring my changes into the new blueprints OR what to do to my current ones so they work again

[wicked oak]

data driven RNG mission generation for my prototype yay

i only have easyand hard mission types tho XD

gonna have to add a few more to have variety in that menu

[nimble junco]

for anybody interested, the problem i described above was appearing because the update reset the assigned skeletons on the hand meshes
reassigning the correct meshes fixed the error

[real needle]

I just realized that Fallout4VR is a completely new game, for $60. I wouldn't mind that unless I was stupid enough to believe it would be available for everyone who already purchased the game, since I bought it during a sale ~6months or so ago

[mighty carbon]

is it just me or Doom VFR's lighting looks flat compare to Doom ?

[sturdy coral]

@real needle you may be able to refund if you haven't played it, the 2 hour/14day rule is just for automatic refunds

I think they still have a manual process

[amber widget]

Hey guys, do you know why vr play in editor is so slow ? I have a 1060 6gb and I7 6700k ...

I try to lower the graphics into the editor, the graphics looks bad but fps drop still happear

appear*

sometimes there is no issue and the second after it's lagging

[granite jacinth]

man

Had to grab a 1070TI

Was going to go for a 1080 for VR Recordings, but decided Volta was too close

I'll save now, and spend the saving in a new rig with Super Sexy Classy Magma Lake and Volta next year

@real needle Any good?

I haven't played any AAA VR games yet

I keep seeing meh/bad reviews all over anyway

[glossy flame]

Robo Recall is AAA imho

[granite jacinth]

hmmm

I haven't played it

But

Is it worth 10 million?

Let me know

Only thing I've played is BulletTime from Epic

Which...

I guess is never coming out to see all the goodies like they promised

[glossy flame]

You have a vive?

[granite jacinth]

I have everything

Except OSVR

😉

But who has one of those anyway?

Wonder if they died out or dropped prices since Rift drops

Yeah, looks like it died

Dont know wtf this is: https://www.vuzix.com/Products/iWear-Video-Headphones

[glossy flame]

no idea. got RR for free on rift, and messed with the modkit for vive (free too). it was good enough to make me want to start making mods for it if that's indication.

maybe it's like Oculus GO?

scratch that - vuzix is PC bound

[granite jacinth]

DO you get paid for mods @glossy flame

?

Or are you just a hobbyist?

[glossy flame]

nah i was just messing around - hobbyist

[granite jacinth]

Wish I could have gotten into the mod scene as a kid

Or something, anything.

But meh, not doing too bad now

[glossy flame]

same here. came in way too late

[chilly thicket]

What would be the best way to make a snap to system for placing stuff?

I guess VR might not be the right channel, but it's a VR game, so 😄

[real needle]

@granite jacinth You mean Fallout4?

@chilly thicket We have a pretty active community here and we usually discuss mechanics that are doable in flat games as well

[chilly thicket]

Ah, okay.

[real needle]

So feel free to ask your questions if they are related to a VR project (although some generic things can be kept to the other channels)

I'm not a mod or anything, just giving you my temperature of the discussions here

[chilly thicket]

Ha ha, thanks.

[chilly thicket]

So, rephrased question from earlier:

What's the best way to have a snap to world build system?

And, what would be the best way to save all placed stuff and keep it persistant.

[glossy flame]

anyone here familiar with the vrexpplugin know if it's OK to use Right/LeftControllerRelativeVel to get the speed the player's moving the controller at? Fsr it's returning 0 on me - even though I removed the one and only call that sets it to 0.

Btw, it seems that effin lighthouse issue I was having has been cured by an automatic SteamVR update (yesterday there was a .net redistributable that installed when I opened steamvr. The lighthouses no longer seem to lose tracking ...yet.

[dusky moon]

Hey, doesn any1 know if it's still not possible to Stereo Capture post processing effects in 4.18 ?!

I haven't tested it since 4.15

[thorny niche]

Has anyone tried to measure performance with Profiler tool on 4.18? Behaves weird to me. With fps drop it increases all the stat numbers like Base pass, that should be constant. So with highest throttling settings at 60 fps Base pass of simple scene takes 5 ms., but with lowest throttling settings at 30 fps same scene takes up to 10 ms. Base pass. When on older versions of the engine numbers like these were constant and the fps drop was logged as Stalls here and there.

[finite haven]

how can I detect what's causing "CPU Stall - Wait for Event" for all threads in profiler? everything seems fine, just some occasional drops where all threads are waiting for something

[finite haven]

if anyone will ever run into my problem and read it: CPU Stall - Wait for Event makes CPU wait for heavy operations that happened on previous frame or two so it's necessary to profile those ones instead of spike

so another question: why FViewExtensionPreDrawCommand takes too much time sometimes and what is it?

[tired tree]

@glossy flame rel values are now not calculated unless in a movement mode that uses them to save on processing. You can reverse that and run it every tick if you want the lowpass filtered values back all the time

[uneven moon]

I'm trying to end an overlap whilst inside a trigger volume

How can I achieve this?

(Without actually ending the overlap, but to trigger an Event Overlap)

I tried to just set all channels inside the BP to 'Ignore'

Does not work

End Overlap doesn't trigger

[glossy flame]

@tired tree ah shit sorry. Thanks. It's not worth much, but I did look around in the update section (and the whole thread) but couldn't find any hits on "relative". I'm using hmd orient though, and its running after the velocity smoother that uses it I think.

[tired tree]

Velocity smoothing is only calculated for running in place and armswing

[glossy flame]

That makes sense. Coulda sworn there were gets on the rels getting passed into the smoother so long as the mode is >= teleport which means all modes I think. Ah, is it in code you check for armswing or RIP? I didn't see that check in bp

[tired tree]

no, its bp

[glossy flame]

Dang sorry. Ill check it out again tomorrow. Thanks a lot.

I just checked it. That "calculate relative velocities" function, the first func on tick, is passing in the rels to "get smoothed vel of obj" so long as the mode is >= teleport. My char. Is always in hmd orient, never climbing.

[tired tree]

pm'd you

[sly elk]

I'm working on basic hand tools for my game and have run into a snag. Here is a video showing what it is doing now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJsHvSa-MsA&feature=youtu.be

I'm using a look at to turn the wrench based on the hand position (a reference for the bolt gets the look at angle to the hand). Then I break the rot and plug it into Z to constrain it. I think the issue is that I'm getting the look at in world space when I want it in local space . My first attempt to fix that was to get the local rotation and add it to the world rotation but that just made everything go nuts. Pic of the BP: https://i.imgur.com/X7sYURr.png

[sly elk]

nevermind, fixed it

lol- struggle with something for an hour, ask for help, then figure it out right after 😛

FWIW the problem as that I am attaching the wrench to the bolt which means it was inheriting a rotation from the bolt. I just had to combine the inverse rotation of the bolt to fix it: https://i.imgur.com/9uTxnYN.png

[silk lodge]

@chilly thicket snapping would be doing a modula function. look it up! Saving worlds would be creating your own data struct (s) and sticking it all in an external file. You could look at save games as well

[real needle]

@sly elk I think the universe is like: "oh you're asking for help? let me put the solution in your brain"

Because I do the same thing all the time

[sly elk]

Yep. Honestly I think after I ask for help sometimes I get self conscious and I start thinking about the problem in new ways

[wicked oak]

rubber duk debugging

it is a known thing

[sly elk]

i googled it. Thats awesome. I'll just talk to my dog

[sly elk]

So all the fasteners in my game are modeled with accurate dimensions including thread pitch and I have all of that info in a spreadsheet. I realized I can include thread pitch, major diameter, and bolt length in the fastener object data and then use that to calculate reasonably accurate numbers for clamping load/bolt stretch/bolt torque based on how many degrees past finger tight

[trail shale]

Anyone hear if they are doing anything to the spectator screen anytime soon?

[trail shale]

@granite jacinth I need to be able to record tactical benchmarks and at some point, fire off events, like an Instructor Control Panel. Right now I'm just planning on doing a simple multiplayer lan to get that functionality (as soon as I, um, figure out how to do multiplayer). However, if I could just use a mouse to interact on the spectator screen, I wouldn't need a separate machine...

[granite jacinth]

@trail shale Well, can you?

[trail shale]

I tried but I'm probably the wrong guy to ask

As I'm learning Unreal, everyone tells me that if I am having to do too many workarounds and blueprints that look like a pile of schitzophrenic spaghetti, that I'm probalby going about it the wrong way

The temp work around I might try again was to just get the mouse position and then make a bunch of booleans that trigger when the mouse is in a certain 2D vector range (aka, hovering over the button) .... when those are true the click event can be fired....

pretty cumbersome to set up so if you have any suggestions for a better workflow I'm all ears

[tired tree]

if you set it up correctly its not cumbersome at all

its how game menus were made since the beginning and how slate works at its most basic level

regardless, no new news on the full viewport spectator implementation

[trail shale]

Oh hey Morden...while I've got you hear, how do you Expose the Steam VR loading screen for level streaming to make a custom one?

[tired tree]

use their api

its c++, i just exposed it to bp

[uneven moon]

If I measure the distance between the Player Camera Manager and a mesh in the world, will it always check the distance between the active HMD and the specified mesh? To then, possess a new pawn and re-calculate the distance between the same two variables, will the cam manager now represent the new active pawn?

[real needle]

My VR with my Vive works perfectly in Play In VR, but when I click "dedicated server" nothing tracks.
Anyone know how to do this?

[wicked oak]

@real needle no way around it

editor limitation

gotta test in standalone game without the editor

[real needle]

Can you launch standalone with dedi, or have to launch both

[wicked oak]

you launch both

i had a .bat file around, but not anymore

that just launched the project 2 times, one for standalone, and 1 for standalone dedicated server

and then connected the client to the server

[real needle]

I've got some shortcuts to launch each type. The bat sounds like a good idea

[nimble junco]

hey guys, does somebody know why my landscape is flickering really hard in VR preview?

[uneven moon]

@nimble junco Maybe overlapping mesh

Also, I had a similar problem once and I fixed it by re-doing the landscape and the material(s) so I never did find out why it happened

My flicker had my landscape go from like a half-opaque blue to regular colour

Can you show us a screenshot or video of your flickering?

[nimble junco]

its nothing overlapping at least
i just tried to make a screenshot but then i noticed that its only inside Vive view

not in the preview window

also it looks different now, i disabled tesselation inside the material

so it has something to do with that

[sturdy coral]

@uneven moon player camera manager has a function to get current camera location and rotation

[sly elk]

This is the correct way to get a rotation in local space, right? https://i.imgur.com/FsMkBTq.png

obviously just local Z right there

[tired tree]

https://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/INT/BlueprintAPI/Math/Transform/ConvertTransformtoRelative/

the pin names are the reverse of what you would expect though, be careful of that

[sly elk]

lol, did not know there was a fucntion for that

[west pebble]

Hi guys, I'm in a cursed situation. I'm making a vr 360 video tour at work that needs hotspots that actually move along with the video footage. All the video clips are going through intensive post production, so the camera is going to be tracked in syntheyes so that the shots can be stabilized and camera rigs can be painted out and all that. My plan was to apply that tracked motion to a bone that the camera is parented to, while putting the hotspots in-engine right on their real world space (sorting in front of the sphere) so they can be looked at and teleported to (while also playing their appropriate counterpart video clip)

The problem is, I've only ever used UE4 to test materials. I have no idea how to pull this off or where to start.

[trail shale]

TPCast just showed up in the mail

No idea what to expect, we'll see

[sly elk]

Finally, I am generating the right numbers for the ratchet mechanism. It took me way too long to realize I could just compare my cumulative rotation number between frames... Now i get a total number of degrees rotated (for non ratcheting wrenches) and a total that increments in each direction for a ratchet tightening or loosening

[real needle]

@full junco @sturdy coral I know that epic is working on the SteamVR/Rift issue. Someone over there knew who I was and we have mutual friends apparently xD

@west pebble Run through the blueprint introduction tutorials, what you want to do is not hard. Line trace from camera -> on trace hit and player input -> teleport and load next scene

But I'd recommend learning the blueprint GUI and workflow

[full junco]

@real needle ah, great, so you think they'll fix the issue relatively soon?

[real needle]

@full junco She said she had to stay late to work on it so I hope so ^^

[full junco]

ha 😄

[sturdy coral]

nice, now we need to get back on valve to fix that two hand haptics problem

[real needle]

hmm what's that one about

[cold siren]

Any one how to get the oculus remote going?

[OculusRemote.Settings] bRemoteKeysMappedToGamepad=False in defaultengine.ini didnt do it for me 😦

[barren rose]

Unplug your touch controllers

Or take out their batteries

Seriously

[cold siren]

Really? Thats the only way?

[barren rose]

I hope someone tells me a different way

[cold siren]

cant have controllers plus remote working together?

[barren rose]

Because atm, its the only way I've found

[cold siren]

ok wow that worked

that is ass backwards though

thanks @barren rose

[barren rose]

Aye

I spent hours

HOURS

And then I found some obscure occulus unity forum post

Some fool was like 'just unpair your touch controllers'

...

I believe intention is if you don't have Touch, you use remote

Otherwise you at least use right hand Touch

[cold siren]

interesting

i was hopoing to give a client the controllers, but keep the remote with me incase they dont get the hang of the controllers if the learning curve is too steep

for the 5 minute demos

so that I can still control the experience

or at minimum switch their location if they are struggling

[full junco]

@sturdy coral @real needle yeah, if the haptics issue is still not fixed, they really should finally work on that

I havent checked for a few months though

@real needle its this: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/openvr/issues/639

[real needle]

aaaah that explains a lot

@cold siren I used a wireless numpad 😃

To spawn zombies back in the day depending on how well the player was doing

They're less than 10$ on amazxon

[cold siren]

could just get one of those mini keyboards

i was just hoping to work with the existing and now useless remote lol

[real needle]

Yeah that seems odd

[full junco]

@real needle you mean also also saw that issue just without knowing it exists? 😄

[real needle]

YES

well

yes

also, I wish the haptic values could be generic

I need different ones for touch/vive

[trail shale]

Anyone here use a TPcast...I had a question about the router and couldn't find much on google

[real needle]

@trail shale I wish

[trail shale]

@real needle Don't wish just yet, this thing is buggy as shit

[real needle]

Yeah that's why I didn't get one just yet. Figured the tech needs to mature a bit yet

Also, I don't know if having 60ghz straight to my brain every day is a good idea

[trail shale]

I'm only doing it because my business model calls for roomscale and wireless would be great for that...we'll see how reliable this is

[real needle]

I've seen good results though

[trail shale]

right now I'm in this, "This thing is a piece of shit"

Software says everythings connected

I fire up Steam VR

annnd all my monitors go black

wtf

[trail shale]

annnd it's working now and again I have no idea why

We still need to find the "Steve Jobs of VR" to get this shit to go mainstream

[wicked oak]

@trail shale have you seen how much Oculus is taking from the Apple book?

The Oculus box is designed in nearly the same way an Apple product box is designed

[fresh laurel]

https://research.googleblog.com/2017/12/introducing-new-foveation-pipeline-for.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogspot%2FgJZg+(Official+Google+Research+Blog)

[full junco]

@fresh laurel nice, but seems to be aimed at mobile vr

[sly elk]

This is really fun to use now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp5XWzTNL1c

haptics and sound next

[wicked oak]

looks great @sly elk

are you going to make those videos public? can get you a following

people do like to see the dev doing this kind of attention to detail

[sly elk]

once I finish off the fasteners I will make a public video

[wicked oak]

also dev blog

[sly elk]

Yeah. I do more granular stuff on twitter, facebook, and instagram. Then I use my blog for larger posts

I need to work out how to do a dead zone on the direction changes. Basically the socket needs to ignore a small amount of forward rotation based on how far the back stroke on the ratchet was (with a max of 6 degrees for a 60 tooth ratchet). I also need to set the forward stroke stiffness on the rotation to 0 for that dead zone.

Also I explained some blueprint to my dog yesterday and it totally stopped me from posting a question 😃

[wicked oak]

rubber duck debugging, but with a dog

[full junco]

@sly elk maybe at some point your dog knows enough to code some blueprints for you

[sly elk]

I should totally do this with my 3 year old

though im not sure having her home and in my office while im working is worth the trade off

[humble spoke]

Is there an easy way to take stereo images? not panoramic, my goal is a 2D image that if opened is what you'd see in VR but obviously not moving

I keep googling it and all I find is panoramic

[sturdy coral]

@humble spoke I think you can disable the VR plugins then use "stereo on" on the command line

and get SBS

[sly elk]

my real wrenching for the day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU1TZ8-WHic

[tired tree]

@sly elk When does that DLC come out?

[sly elk]

Lol. Another version of the game where you just fix 30 year beat up trucks

[eternal inlet]

hi guys, any of you good with streaming levels? i have a hard time figuring out if there's some builtin mechanism for managing communication between a persistent level and it's streaming levels. as far as i can see, there's no way in bp (maybe in c++?) to get a list of streaming levels in it. And also i don't see a way to call methods on the persistentlevel's blueprint without storing references on ie. gamemode or gameinstance, which also doesn't seem possible

something as simple as getting a streaming level's name, is also something i don't see exposed, neither though DisplayName or ObjectName

closest i've come, is to get the class of the streaming level, then get the name and then remove the _C it adds

doing event dispatchers also doesn't seem to help me, even though i can fire the events, i don't see an easy way of hooking up to those events, when i can't easily get references to the streaming levels

[noble crater]

is anyone else developing on 4.18 + Rift? if so, how is your PIE performance?

[mighty carbon]

@noble crater horrible

that's why I test performance by building standalone shipping builds

interesting https://uploadvr.com/qualcomm-new-snapdragon-845/

Oculus should offer Go with 845 as premium mobile version

[sturdy coral]

@eternal inlet "And also i don't see a way to call methods on the persistentlevel's blueprint without storing references on ie. gamemode or gameinstance, which also doesn't seem possible" they added the ability for sublevels to implement blueprint interfaces a while back

so you should be able to call methods on it by interface; I don't know the specifics of it though

[eternal inlet]

right, for sublevels it's fine

i may just avoid storing stuff in the persistent level and just use the gameinstance

a bit more worrying now, is that i had the impression i could serialize an actor in a savegame

[sturdy coral]

hmm, the persistent level can implement an interface too

[eternal inlet]

and then restore it again from the serialized data

yes, but if i can't get a reference to the PL, it's not much use

[sturdy coral]

hmm, yeah I'm not sure how to do it in blueprint by default

you could add a getter on the game instance that gives a reference to the current persistent level

[eternal inlet]

hehe, i tried something like that

think engine crashed, because it had a variable type in gameinstance it didn't like

[noble crater]

@mighty carbon do you have the nvidia "in-game overlay" running. disabling it just completely fixed my rift+4.18 in editor perf

[mighty carbon]

@noble crater I do! o.O Where do I turn that off ?

[noble crater]

in the geforce experience settings

[mighty carbon]

aye, thanks

[uneven moon]

@wicked oak Did you ever run into this problem when trying to launch on the devkit?

It worked fine until yesterday, tried to launch today and I keep getting this

[west pebble]

I'm working on getting a gaze based teleportation thing going on rn where if you stare at a point long enough you go to it. I've sorta hit a wall. this is my first time using blueprints in my life lads
https://puu.sh/yBBu4/c72de8d998.png

[uneven moon]

I'm not sure if you left this out on purpose, but

You'll need to connect these two nodes via execution pins

Right now your teleport node is only gathering location/rotation data, it isn't actually firing

Always make sure that the nodes are connected via their main input and output points

[west pebble]

I was gonna put some sorta time delay there

I just blanked on how

[uneven moon]

So even when they're connected, no luck?

If you type in 'delay', you can use that node. Unless this is being done inside of a function. Delays aren't allowed inside functions

But, that system wouldn't work

Because once the line trace hits something, it'll trigger a delay and then a teleport

Even if the player looked away

[west pebble]

https://puu.sh/yBBFL/0b7b196249.png

wew

[uneven moon]

Here, try Mitch's tut: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-7Hu0HzbDU

[west pebble]

will do

thanks man

[uneven moon]

Np

[full junco]

https://puu.sh/yBCBo/66b9e6fba2.png

https://puu.sh/yBCBL/8696c3dc17.png

[granite jacinth]

@full junco not bad not bad

you notice the trend of less and less VR stuff though?

Other than XR

Almost as if Epic's over it

[full junco]

yeah, definitely noticed that

https://puu.sh/yBCGT/0c83b62e0b.png

[tired tree]

Finally on that world locked stereo change, it was very broken in SteamVR

[sturdy coral]

@full junco that multires oculus merge sounds like it's just the mobile thing they talked about at connect 4 (mobile tiled multires)

[sly elk]

anyone know why we never got foviated rendering on desktop?

[sturdy coral]

it's there from nvidia, but requires a branch

different shaders

nvidia has said they are working on stuff for the future to make it require less engine changes

[granite jacinth]

Just noticed I never did this test

I'm about to install this 1070ti, let's see if I am ready yet

[glossy flame]

is there an "easy" way to rotate a VR player character 90° left/right or 180° over x (~.25s) time? Snapping 90 or 180 works perfect, but gets crazy when I try to lerp it.

nm - looks like set actor rotation VR is what I want.

[full junco]

@granite jacinth wouldn't have thought it would recommend an upgrade for a 980

[granite jacinth]

well that was scary

I put in the 1070ti and it wouldn't boot up my other two monitors for a little bit and everything was in like 800x600 on my vertical but sideways.

@full junco ya me neither, I am about to see what it says about the 1070ti

[full junco]

well that will be very good of course

[granite jacinth]

I guess a 1070ti meets the requirements @full junco

2x my poor 980

Guess grabbing it at $415 was a good buy

[full junco]

a 1070 ti is "only" 52% faster than a 980

@granite jacinth why did you buy a 1070 ti and not a 1080?

[granite jacinth]

@full junco two reasons

one, there were no 1080s around $500 price point

I was not going to pay the freaking mining tax

two, I just needed a quick upgrade before volta

I was doing some recordings in VR/1440p

and OBS was not having it

I mean, it wasn't terrible, but it dropped enough every few seconds a frame or two to be noticeable on replay

So worthless for trailer footage

[full junco]

@granite jacinth hm, I thought the 1070 ti would be a card specifically for mining essentially

due to it having the slower RAM thats better for mining while the 1080 has the quicker ram thats worse for mining

[granite jacinth]

You would think

But every 1080 BF deal was already taken, which only took it back down to the "regular" msrp of $500

Every other 1080 during BF/Cyber week was $550+

cheapest 1080ti was like $700

I was going to go all out, but I was like nah, I'll just wait for volta, grab something good in the mean time

And then I was able to snag this for $415 via newegg

[full junco]

yeah, seems the 1070 ti definitely has more attractive prices, weird

[granite jacinth]

no contest

[warped breach]

the 1070 is the better buy

[granite jacinth]

no

[full junco]

would have expected miners to make the 1070 ti have higher prices than the 1080

[warped breach]

if you do the performance to price ratio

[granite jacinth]

1070 is more expensive..

than my 1070ti

The GPU prices right now are stupid

[warped breach]

1070 vs 1080

not TI

[granite jacinth]

ah

[warped breach]

i like my 1080 but

i probably would have been fine with a 1070, and could have bought 2 cards instead

[full junco]

well when I bought my 1080 it was cheaper price/performance than a 1070

because the 1070 is a better mining card

[warped breach]

or just upgraded sooner

get the next series

yeah, if you get a nice sale

always good to get a really good rewards card or something 😛

combine them with discounts

I really love the new architecture on these cards

Nvidia made alot of stuff run so much better

[full junco]

"new"?

[warped breach]

I upgraded from a 580

[full junco]

its old by now

[warped breach]

its still current though

10 series

[full junco]

yeah, but pascal is already 1.5 years old now

[warped breach]

DDR4 is old now too 😛

one of the reasons im not upgrading my motherboard yet

[full junco]

not really that much, since new DDR generations come way slower than new GPU generations

[warped breach]

were probably close to the next gen of things

[full junco]

no

[warped breach]

i really dont like my motherboard

Im thinking of buying EVGA next

[full junco]

DDR3 is from 2007, DDR4 from 2014, so DDR5 you can expect in 2021

[warped breach]

what about cpus though?

different sockets

[full junco]

the next gen of intel CPUs just came out and is still not really available due to being a paper launch

[warped breach]

are they still all very hot?

[full junco]

yeah, the intel ones are really hot

[warped breach]

ugh

[full junco]

so the next interesting thing is ryzen 2

[warped breach]

my E8500 in 2008 was 65w

my current is 88

and when im on newegg, most of the upgrades are 120 or more

[full junco]

well, I want CPUs to eat at least 200W

why should I be happy with less

[warped breach]

i like cooler running cpus

[full junco]

I like faster CPUs 😛

[warped breach]

im in Florida

cold in my house is 80 F

not the best temps for super hot cpus

[full junco]

you probably have AC

[warped breach]

80 is with my AC on xD

[full junco]

if you need a cool CPU, buy a ryzen 1700, thats 65W TDP

[warped breach]

its like 90-100 outside

[granite jacinth]

DDR6 is coming next year

For GPU

[warped breach]

yeah, might have to look into AMD

my friend is convinced on it

im just skeptical

need to do the research

[full junco]

in the past AMD were the power hungry ones, but ryzen is great

[warped breach]

I don't really have any bad experiences with AMD

Only had bad experiences with ATI

but they are gone now

[full junco]

and current ryzen is on a mobile chip optimized process, thats why it has such great TDP but less clock than intel. ryzen 2 will be on a more high performance optimized process, so might get ~1 Ghz more clock

[warped breach]

its healthy to see some competition with intel

I wish them the best

[full junco]

@granite jacinth well GPU RAM is different. there the really good one is HBM2 anyways, not GDDR6

[granite jacinth]

Yeah I want to see HBM2 sooner than later

But I doubt we'll see it on consumer level anytime soon

That crap is way too expensive

[warped breach]

I think for me, the biggest upgrade I felt, going from 2008 sys hardware to 2014, was SSD

[granite jacinth]

Well mainstream anyway

[warped breach]

You see those super fast SSDs, that read and write at like 3200 mb/s or mbps, whichever one it is, i always forget xD

[full junco]

@granite jacinth HMD2 does already ship at "consumer level". vega is consumer level

[warped breach]

How does these other 10 series cards perform?

like the 1050 ti

[full junco]

well thats below VR spec

[granite jacinth]

@full junco you mean 64 and 56

?

[full junco]

yeah

[granite jacinth]

I thought that was HBm1

not 2

didn't know it was 2

[full junco]

its HBM2, thats why vega was so late

[granite jacinth]

Ah, and still not around

Because it's expensive to make

[full junco]

yeah

[warped breach]

is 1060 the recommended min?

[full junco]

yeah

[warped breach]

thats not bad

pretty cheap card

[granite jacinth]

yeah, just put in this:

[warped breach]

im googling about the next architecture

[granite jacinth]

along with my 1070ti

going to use that in replacement of my samsung 850 evo

[warped breach]

I got that m.2 version that reads and writes at insane speeds

but my motherboard sucks, so i only get 800 mb/s xD

[granite jacinth]

yeah, I wish they have a 2TB version

or even 1TB at reasonable price

[warped breach]

yeah i want to see the price on SSD get cheaper

[granite jacinth]

Ended up getting this and a 1TB 850 Evo

[warped breach]

i dont want to ever go back to HDD

[granite jacinth]

Yeah, I have 6 SSDs plus this M2 now in my rig

plus 2 1TB HDDs

[warped breach]

i nearly destroyed my HDD doing video editing for a client

[granite jacinth]

want to get rid off one of the HHD and put this 1TB Evo in

[warped breach]

the new nvidia architecture focuses alot on AI

just thought of this =3 https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/terminator/images/1/19/Terminator_robot.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/300?cb=20090512155233

[full junco]

the AI stuff won't be in the gamer cards

[warped breach]

is there a replacement for PCI-E?

[glossy flame]

what do y'all think of the intel Optane 900p lol It's shaped like a gpu

[warped breach]

this NVLink thing

what exactly is it?

[sturdy coral]

wow the iphone face capture stuff can even get like really rapid lip movements: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w047Dbo-fGQ&t=5m

[granite jacinth]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/titan/titan-v/?ncid=so-you-tnv-29059

[sturdy coral]

we're going to see decent mocap in so many games

[granite jacinth]

@full junco you see this?

lol

Man, I am late today

Hmm

[warped breach]

@sturdy coral one day, we wont know simulated from real

[granite jacinth]

I was about to spend $1k for Faceware

on iClone

And my Realsense

[sturdy coral]

yeah, it is pretty easy to write something like he is showing, the api just gives you an array of blend shape weights over time

[warped breach]

did you ever see that video of simulated Obama speaking?

[sturdy coral]

yeah, the audio synthesis one?

[warped breach]

https://youtu.be/3mNf1euL3vI

[sturdy coral]

or was it video too?

[warped breach]

i think this is it

[sturdy coral]

oh wow, I didn't see that

[granite jacinth]

Well

That's not very new though

Adobe has this thing

Forgot what it's called

[warped breach]

"there is concern that it could be used maliciously"

uhm, it will be, alot xD

[granite jacinth]

But basically, after taking a few seconds of your voice

[warped breach]

and then video evidence will no longer be acceptable

lol

[granite jacinth]

You can pretty much make it say anything you want with that voice

[warped breach]

oh, thats cool

can talk using my fingers

:V

i must see this

[granite jacinth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3l4XLZ59iw

This is actually a bit different

[warped breach]

So its like an automated soundboard maker

[granite jacinth]

Except it uses the speech patterns

uploaded

to recreate new words/phrases

[warped breach]

Hollywood will use it to resurrect dead actors/actresses

Had atleast 2 in Rogue One right?

[full junco]

@granite jacinth ha, didn't know that stuff yet

its great 😄

[granite jacinth]

Yeah

The future...

It's going to be crazy

[full junco]

they don't ship that feature yet though?

[granite jacinth]

Nah, I am sure there are a lot of legal issues that have to get around

[full junco]

no, why should there be

[granite jacinth]

?

[full junco]

its same like removing or adding something to images

[granite jacinth]

Serious?

lol

[full junco]

adobe doesn't have to care about what people do with it

[granite jacinth]

duh

they just want that $$

But I am sure they are getting push back

[full junco]

who complained about that pictures can be edited?

[warped breach]

once something gets real enough

it takes heavy analysing to detect forgery

and you've seen what happens to some people, when they are framed

even if it doesnt stick as evidence in the legal system, some people cant take it and kill themselves.

the more this stuff improves, the more skeptical people will be of audio and video

but that skepticism though is probably a good thing, because faking stuff is nothing new 😛

but yeah, I don't buy that Adobe is going to be able to do much to protect people from that tech

and honestly, if they dont create it, someone else will

but hey, I see some potential benefits

I could put on my best pirate voice for 20 minutes, and then get several hours of pirate speak

[glossy flame]

lyrebird I think can get the data within a minute

[warped breach]

lol, even better

doing that kind of voice, is very rough on my vocal chords

[full junco]

lyrebird does not sound very good

[warped breach]

and actually, if it isnt perfect, slightly robotic, thats kinda cool

[glossy flame]

yeah, it's a bit rough last I checked

[warped breach]

cyborg pirate

[full junco]

https://lyrebird.ai/g/hB2yarx-

[warped breach]

lol, the first clip i get is The Donald

still better at imitating him, than I am

[full junco]

this is funny: https://twitter.com/quasimondo/status/904808255276376064

Mario Klingemann (@quasimondo)

I deleted my previous voice samples and recorded them again, this time singing them. Oh well.... https://t.co/MV5QLT0Afe

Twitter

[warped breach]

LOL

this would work well for the Gman

cant wait to hear the result of this

xD

if only it didnt require reading sentences they choose

id feed it some Gman 😄

😄

https://lyrebird.ai/g/WUKegy-g

😄

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu

Made it say that for me

This thing must require a shit ton of voice recordings to become smooth

and I feel like they are gonna steal my voice after haha xD

But, that was fun, thanks for sharing that website.

@full junco 👍 👌

[wicked oak]

why would i want to have a text to speech with my voice XD

but if you train it with morgan freeman...

[tired tree]

no, Gordon Freeman

[mighty carbon]

Is anyone planning on getting Nvidia Titan V ?

[wicked oak]

you would have to be a fucking idiot to get one

SLI 1080ti is cheaper and much stronger

it barely has more power than a 1080ti for 3 times the price

(for gamedev)

they are only useful if you will want to do AI stuff with it

becouse if you want to do rendering, getting 2 of the older model is a better deal

its essentially a toned down Tesla card.

[mighty carbon]

It's Volta arch

[wicked oak]

you will only have use with it if you are going to do half precision, double precision, or AI stuff

its volta for computing, not volta for games

given it specs, it doesnt seem like its going to be much faster than the 1080ti for games

but it would utterly destroy anything else for AI or double float compute

[eternal inlet]

it will be better for bitcoin mining tho 😛

[wicked oak]

nope

it will be worse XD

too expensive to turn a profit, and, again, multiple of the cheaper cards is much better value

crypto mining uses integer instructions, this just has lots of floating point stuff

[sturdy coral]

Sounds like it will be better for realtime replacement voice synthesis

[eternal inlet]

i see... i actually thought it was worth it for mining

[sly elk]

I have no interest in $1000+ video cards but all of those cuda cores would speed up scan processing

[full junco]

the titan V will have at most 28% more TFlops than a 1080 ti

in FP32

so absolutely not worth the price for gaming

[wicked oak]

not even for normal computing

as you can just grab 2-3 older titans or 1080tis

for the same price

[raven halo]

@mighty carbon do you remember how to force anisotropic filtering x2 on gearvr?

[mighty carbon]

I never knew that :)

[raven halo]

I can't find anything on the web xD

[mighty carbon]

AA is x2 by default, that's all I know

tweet at Carmack.. He might know

or is it "twit"? 🤔

[wicked oak]

looking at the source code will be the fastest

there is probably some place where it sets up the correct anisotropic filtering, so just up that

as far as i know anisotropic is a scalability setting

[raven halo]

I'm going to check

[sly elk]

I think this is simple but I just don't know what nodes to use. I want to play a sound/get an execution wire every time a string increments by 6. This will be for firing a sound effect and a haptic event every time the back stroke of the wrench passes a virtual tooth. I already have string that records multi turn rotation and string that add up all the back and forward direction rotation. I basically want to take the back stroke rotation string and every time it increase by six, fire off an execution wire

The only way I can think to do this feels messy- Get the negative rotation delta between frames and add them to a variable each frame. If variable is > 6 make a branch, do the sound, and then set that delta total back to zero. It seems like this would result in a tolerance stack issue where the amount the delta went past 6 could cause issues with fast motion

[wicked oak]

@sly elk you can just not set the total delta back to zero

but to subtract 6

that way you wont lose precision when it doesnt fall directly

[sly elk]

thank you

[eternal inlet]

hi guys, anyone that can do a vr bug test for me?

it's about this one: https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/726196/bug-vr-pause-menu-3d-widgets.html

which i explain on a video here: https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/726196/bug-vr-pause-menu-3d-widgets.html

the repro project is here (and is really small): https://www.dropbox.com/s/a89jer4o8u8xrtt/MyProject3.zip?dl=0

Rudy from Epic, can't reproduce it, so im starting to think that it's a local problem, but need to hear from others what they say

[sly elk]

Has anyone dug into haptics for the rift or vive in detail? Im wondering where the upper and lower limits are for frequency and intensity before it totally loses detail or intensity. Basically, what operating range I have to work with in the feedback curve editor

[sly elk]

Also, does anyone know how to get VR preveiw mode to play sound through the system and not the HMD?

[sturdy coral]

@sly elk frequency-wise I've heard something like 5ms for the steamvr api, which would be 200hz

@sly elk for sound you may be able to modify FString FOculusRiftPlugin::GetAudioOutputDevice() with an editor check

for steamvr you'd need to add a virtual GetAudioOutputDevice override (it relies on steamvr setting the system audio device so it just leaves it unimplemented)

[sly elk]

thanks

[sturdy coral]

@sly elk on the haptics thing I'm not sure how UE4 implements it though, it might not update it every 5ms

could be tied to tick rate or something

[sly elk]

I have a pretty decent ratchet haptic event but at some point I want to sit down and just test the min/max bounds of frequency and intensity and take some notes

almost done with this.. I think I just have about half day work left to get the teeth to unload on the back stroke and create a dead zone for both the socket movement and the ratchet stiffness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l92ICo-fRA&feature=youtu.be

I also need to implement forward and reverse switching on the ratchet

[eternal inlet]

looks very nice

[real needle]

I've added textures as the brush to some UMG buttons, but whenever I hover over them they flicker and show what looks like a cooldown bar on the right side

Using widgetinteractioncomponent and 3dwidgets

Was just wondering if someone has come across it before, I can't figure out why it's happening

[eternal inlet]

never seen that with any of my widgets

try with another simple texture?

[real needle]

yeah it does the same thing

so I discovered it's actually triggering "on hovered" every tick

[eternal inlet]

ah

strange i don't have that issue then

wonder if something you do keep triggering it on and off

[real needle]

but why only that widget..

I checked other collision

[eternal inlet]

hmm, maybe there's another widget over it?

[real needle]

same BP with a different WBP works

As intended

So it's something about applying brushes to buttons

[eternal inlet]

but why just that one?

try move it somewher else?

[real needle]

yeah I tried it in a nother level even

[eternal inlet]

i mean in the UMG

[real needle]

so it happens when the buttons are set to auto instead of fill

[eternal inlet]

aha

odd

[real needle]

but with fill they don't get the right scale..

[eternal inlet]

can't recall if i have any of those, but good to know

[pale burrow]

asked in blueprint section, but ill mention here: Having a struggle here... in search of help. please @ me in any relative answers. I am looking to have a character climb a cable component in vr and swing on it..... any ideas?

[eternal inlet]

i've only personally done a swing using a fixed point (grapplehook)

that approach is easy enough if you have a climbing logic setup already

but for climbing an actual cable i think u would need to traverse the cable particles and generate collision bodies to climb on and update on tick

@pale burrow

[pale burrow]

yikes

that sounds not so fun

[eternal inlet]

i don't think it would be so hard actually

[pale burrow]

would you like to open a pm?

and i will later post solution?

[pale burrow]

oh

have never seen that node xD

[eternal inlet]

very handy for ie. custom meshes for cables too

not that i've personally tried it, but thought about it

[pale burrow]

the ropes will be fixed to a pirate ship, and id like to swing from ship to ship.

this seems useful... how would you handle the swing

[eternal inlet]

use physicsconstraints

ah one sec... it's called something else or i can't recall how i did it

ah no wait it's right

[pale burrow]

any chance you have a blueprint i can peek at?

[eternal inlet]

hmm, let me see if i can find something

it's not done yet, so just a POC really

[pale burrow]

im launching my project up now.... all i was able to do is pick up a ball on the end of the rope and throw it (and it went on for ever)

[eternal inlet]

meh, it's pretty big... too big to show and explain really

but i recall i just did a simple test in a 3rd person template project first with two boxes simulating physics tied togheher with a physics constraint

and then making a cable between them for the visual effect

or rather one box simulating physics ofc

[pale burrow]

so just attach cable component, and attach physics constraint??

[eternal inlet]

and the other box = fixed point

[pale burrow]

thats not so horrible

[eternal inlet]

attach a sphere simulating physics to a physics constraint at the anchor point

and yes then make sure the cable component is updated to the sphere and the anchor point

then it will look like you're swinging

[pale burrow]

oh, so cable component is irreverent to this whole setup?

[eternal inlet]

yes

it's just visual

[pale burrow]

okay. ill give this a go

[eternal inlet]

looking forward to see what you do with it 😃

once it's working it's good fun

[pale burrow]

ill see what can be done.... i havent really done much work with physics constraints yet

[eternal inlet]

me neither, but a good starting point is to poc in a simple setup first (non-vr)

to see how it behaves easierly

[pale burrow]

alrighty

[eternal inlet]

GL mate

[pale burrow]

ooooooooo i feel so sick

i just did it in vr and it swung around insanely fast

BUT it works

[eternal inlet]

hehe

[pale burrow]

any way to like.... dampen the movement?

[eternal inlet]

yeah

dampen the sphere

linear damping

[pale burrow]

ah

great

thank you, i wanted to hold my dinner down

[eternal inlet]

i increase it the closer the distance to avoid the worst

yeah, it takes a bit to get right

but once it works, it's damn good fun

[pale burrow]

yea, seems like it needs lots of tweaking

gravity enabled but no gravity applied?

[sly elk]

are you going to have the player swing through the air in VR?

That would make me puke

[eternal inlet]

its actually not that bad

im quite prone to motionsickness, and swinging isn't making me sick

but i suppose it's different for everybody

[pale burrow]

this project is already far from motion friendly.... only for the true vr stomachs

you are on a pirate boat floating around through storms

[eternal inlet]

hehe mine too

with the vr stomachs 😃

[pale burrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHVyiEDr3rI&t=35s

[eternal inlet]

oh wow, looking really nice with the shadows and all

[pale burrow]

Sea Sickness in VR

[eternal inlet]

i may get sick from that hehe i have to admit

but looks really amazing man

[pale burrow]

haha, thank you, its a big feature im trying to hold onto for my game. havent gotten forward shading working yet because of my terrain textures, that may prove to help performance lots

thanks alot for the thumbs up, ill be posting videos when possible if youd like to have an eye on the project/ get in on some test versions

[eternal inlet]

for sure yes

actually because there's the horizon to look at, it might not be so sickness inducing

would have to try it

[pale burrow]

add me on discord/steam and ill send you some testers when possible....

ill be releasing a comfort mode with a cage as well.... but i find it ruins the immersion

[eternal inlet]

i should do some dev-videos too on my game

[pale burrow]

i try and keep up on it alot... even unedited..... ill be starting a kickstarter at the end of the month, so i think it will help people look back on progress made

this project is about 2 months old, with only a month of actual work

[eternal inlet]

nice progress then for sure

im 2-3 monts into mine, and there's so much work to do

[pale burrow]

humancatnip on steam, or add me on discord. maybe we can colab on a few things.... im quite good at the art.... not so much game mech

[robust spoke]

Well done to you both 😃 Keep going

[eternal inlet]

im ok on game mech, shitty at art, i buy all the stuff

[pale burrow]

whoops, wrong link

[eternal inlet]

looking really nice!

impressive

[pale burrow]

thank you... i buy some 3d models, but paint them myself, and make simple ones alone

[eternal inlet]

i could use some tips on painting things myself... i have lots of stuff i need to retexture in a good way

[pale burrow]

well just message if you want to collab. i dont mind working for free, just for the exchange of tips on engine tech

[eternal inlet]

just to get them different from the stock marketplace look

[robust spoke]

I like the colour, the last picture kind of reminds me of an ARK survival style graphic but with your own theme

[pale burrow]

thank you, the lighting has been a struggle..... same with terrain texture... no forward render

[eternal inlet]

will do for sure... and i don't mind sharing game mechanic tips, since im doing it on my youtube channel anyway 😃

[pale burrow]

ill check it out, drop a link. i may have even seen a few vids.. i dont mind texturing a few things for you either.... if its anything big maybe a credit mention, but honestly just looking for help kicking my game forward.... so much to do

[robust spoke]

The lighting is a big deal for sure man

[eternal inlet]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRAf7dZULce8SRLa9TdgjNw

[pale burrow]

sorting through AI combat rn as well.... ive added "prediction boxes" that the ai sense when your weapon is near, just need a way of moving their arms to the location

running most scenarios at 80-90 fps with world composition and a very very large map (currently 4x4 terrain tiles)

a couple pictures, not to spam chat.

[eternal inlet]

what do you use for fullbody ik?

[eternal inlet]

love the two houses 😃

[pale burrow]

fullbody ik?

[eternal inlet]

i saw arms on the character

[pale burrow]

and those are a tavern and a blacksmith

thats my own idea xD just springer arms attached to wrists

kinda stupid but works

[eternal inlet]

ah, coz i used a fullbody solver myself for my game

[pale burrow]

id like to see that

[eternal inlet]

it's a bit of a bitch to work with, but it adds to the immersion i think

[pale burrow]

hmmm

i would love to see that in action.

[eternal inlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjivQhZfpR0

[pale burrow]

i was thinking of adding kicking in vr

[eternal inlet]

think this video show it

actually it doesnt show so well

will do a short video where it's more visible

[pale burrow]

very nice work

the body is all slumped over xD

[eternal inlet]

hehe yeah

[pale burrow]

i love the doors, i have one in my game but sounds are a nice touch.

[eternal inlet]

thanks

[pale burrow]

looking good

[eternal inlet]

took a while to get right too

[pale burrow]

my doors are a bit buggy, but well im trying to work with climbing and swinging because there will be a stealth aspect in my game for when in military towns (as a pirate) you will have to take rooftops

[eternal inlet]

i got some stealth mechanic too

[pale burrow]

trying to not ripoff assassins creed.... but all i hear from everyone is "add wristblades add wristblades"

sp im starting to give in and may put them in for a mission or two

[eternal inlet]

i will add a knife as a melee weapon, and ofc a crowbar 😛

[pale burrow]

i have scimitars and rapier (pictureed way above) but havent implemented much for combat against ai yet.

[pale burrow]

@eternal inlet just add on steam or on discord and send some models you would like textured, and id love to help. ill flip through your videos later today but well ill do whatever i can to help you out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeqLbhoqeN8

some tweaking MAY be necessary xD

[real needle]

Hey guys I'm about to upload the first multiplayer patch for The Nest but I could use some ppl to stress test the build (currently vive only...). If you're available during the next hour let me know and I'll hand you the beta password

[pale burrow]

damn, no oculus support?

[real needle]

@pale burrow Everything is prepped for it, and it was working fine until 4.18

Then shit hit the virtual fan

[pale burrow]

damn

[eternal inlet]

im about to hit the sack now, otherwise i could

it's really late here in denmark

[real needle]

for faen!

[pale burrow]

i sent you a pm just so i have you in my list.... send me a few models you need tweaked @eternal inlet and ill see if i can do one or 2 tonight

[eternal inlet]

hva satan? nordmand?

[real needle]

japp, men jag bor i NA

[eternal inlet]

aha 😃

[real needle]

had many tats done in copenhagen

[eternal inlet]

og NA er?

[real needle]

north america xD

[eternal inlet]

ah i see

here's a small video before i head out btw

https://youtu.be/XxPTLAv4PlU

[pale burrow]

THE ARMS! 😮

wholey crap

[eternal inlet]

yes! it's lovely right?

[pale burrow]

very nice.

i like it

if you had a nice map you have a finished demo already

well, with ai combat

send me some models and ill do some for ya, or even map design if needed

[eternal inlet]

the ai is working, but needs a lot of attention

they see and hear you, but i made myself invisible for this video

[pale burrow]

love your attention to detail.... bullet holes, body manipulation, glowing interaction items.... i love it

looks very very cool

[eternal inlet]

thanks 😃

and yes, i wanted to get those small details in

also a lot of work is done on the sound design, but lots of work to do on that still

just did enough to have a good framework to build on

[pale burrow]

yea, seems very good. i have almost no sounds in my game... should probably revisit that

[real needle]

@eternal inlet Did you play around with steam audio yet?

I implemented their HRTF but I didn't have time to learn their reverb and occlusion

[eternal inlet]

current map has about 800.000 polys, can handle up to 10ai with a cpu load on my pc of about 7-8ms in packaged

in idle it's about 2-3ms

no haven't done any steam audio, it's c++ thing right?

i use the builtin audio occlusion stuff and reverb volumes

not on this map though

[real needle]

@eternal inlet No it's just a different audio solution. The plugin is disabled by default

[eternal inlet]

Hmm i think i enabled it yes, but not sure i use any of the extra features

Actually i know i did.. but still not sure what is new

[sly elk]

Okay. last time I will post this ratchet stuff for a while. All done now. The backlash between teeth is accurately simulated and it feels really good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JnIswHbGoc

[pale burrow]

great tech.... i love those hands

[supple coyote]

anyone dealing with insane SlateUI budding in

when I run GPU profiler

4.17

for some reason, all projects in UE are killing my oculus performance

is it the new dash? I reverted. new nvidia driver?

anyone experiencing sudden UE performance issue with oculus?

hell even without oculus when I hover over my outliner it slows down.. really puzzled what the heck is going on

[lime dagger]

when you run the gpu profiler?

[sturdy coral]

@supple coyote someone suggested disabling the nvidia overlay the other day

not sure it was a slate ui thing

[supple coyote]

oh man

i literally just did that

cause suddenly noticed that was happening when I started UE

i saw improvement without VR

just restarting editor to see

when did that overlay start to happen?

[sturdy coral]

not sure

@real needle I finally tried out 4.18 to see if I see that same steamvr issue

[supple coyote]

its unpleasant

[sturdy coral]

turning on the headset mirror shows something of what is going wrong:

[supple coyote]

wow

[supple coyote]

it was 100% that overlay man

went from 24fps to steady 90

[sturdy coral]

the eyes aren't split down the middle

@supple coyote yeah ask @mighty carbon about it I think I saw him mention it here

I think he said there was a fix on the way maybe

[supple coyote]

❤

[wintry escarp]

anyone recommend an amazon dp to hdmi that works with rift?

[sturdy coral]

@wintry escarp https://www.amazon.com/HTC-Vive-Link-Box-pc/dp/B01LXR6DKV/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1512847696&sr=8-1

that's what I use, a regular adapter didn't work for me

[supple coyote]

I also use the linkbox!

its great

[fossil stratus]

anyhow try out the Facebook SDK to try and get something with the Gear VR?>

[full junco]

@supple coyote hey data, how did you disable the overlay?

@sturdy coral interesting, weird issue though

if you look at it with renderdoc you could easily see where the issue is introduced

[supple coyote]

through Geforce experience @full junco

theres a tickbox in there

Pro Tip: using decals to fake dynamic shadows

Hot

[full junco]

but can I still do stuff like start a recording if the overlay is disabled?

[supple coyote]

Dno

I never record

[full junco]

where is that checkbox?

ah, guess I found it

thanks 😄

[supple coyote]

😄

[wintry escarp]

shame it doesn't come with the power supply, that's strange

[sly elk]

I need to order a vive soon so I can start looking at button mapping parity

seems pretty close to the touch except the grip button isn't analog.

[real needle]

@sly elk yeah the touchpad can be used as a d pad

[sly elk]

Yeah- from looking at it I can use it as 4 buttons and an analog input

[sturdy coral]

hmm, so in 4.16 oculus get worn state was:

{
    FOvrSessionShared::AutoSession OvrSession(Session);
    // If there is no VR Session, initialize the Oculus HMD
    if (!OvrSession)
    {
        InitDevice();
    }
    if (OvrSession && !pCustomPresent->NeedsToKillHmd())
    {
        ovrSessionStatus sessionStatus;
        ovr_GetSessionStatus(OvrSession, &sessionStatus);
        
        // Check if the HMD is worn 
        if (sessionStatus.HmdMounted )
        {
            return EHMDWornState::Worn; // already created and worn

        }
    }
    return EHMDWornState::NotWorn;
}```

but in 4.17 it is:

EHMDWornState::Type FOculusHMD::GetHMDWornState()
{
    ovrpBool userPresent;

    if (ovrp_GetInitialized() && OVRP_SUCCESS(ovrp_GetUserPresent2(&userPresent)) && userPresent)
    {
        return EHMDWornState::Worn;
    }
    else
    {
        return EHMDWornState::NotWorn;
    }
}

but turning stereo off makes ovrp_GetInitialized return false

so you can't check the worn state if you want to toggle stereo on and off when the user puts on the HMD

I don't fully understand how the VR editor handles that issue, it seems to just check GetHMDWornState without initializing the session

maybe it just never turns stereo off and so the session is initialized

[real needle]

@sturdy coral hmm that need to be fixed for "social screen" to work

[sturdy coral]

@real needle this fixed it:

    {
        if (!ovrp_GetInitialized())
        {
            InitializeSession(CustomPresent->GetRenderAPI());
        }

        ovrpBool userPresent;
        if (ovrp_GetInitialized() && OVRP_SUCCESS(ovrp_GetUserPresent2(&userPresent)) && userPresent)
        {
                return EHMDWornState::Worn;
        }
        else
        {
            return EHMDWornState::NotWorn;
        }
    }```

however in 4.16 it was instant when I put on the headset

now it takes like 3 seconds

well with that I'm finally merged to 4.17, I'll hold off 4.18 until that oculus via steamvr bug is fixed and probably until nvidia merges

[sturdy coral]

oh nice, with that change as long as you are querying the worn state it will keep things initialized and the Oculus controllers still work outside of VR, they didn't work in 2d in 4.16 even if the session was kept initialized

maybe caused by the ovr sdk bump

[sturdy coral]

does GEngine->HMDDevice->GetCurrentOrientationAndPosition need a worldtometers conversion? I'm trying to use it for a height calibration thing and want the actual current real world height of the HMD

[cold siren]

can any one help with quick cpu/gpu profiling? Im having a couple trouble spots, but i dont understand the profiler enough to narrow it down

[raven halo]

sorry if this has been discussed before

but I just read this in the master branch:

http://puu.sh/yE2yD/437c288e1e.png

Lens matched shading?

I thought that was exclusive to nvidia 10xx cards

and only available on nvidia's branch of Unreal

[wicked oak]

oh hell yes

whats the commit for it? i would like to have a look

@raven halo LMS is indeed only on nvidia branch

but that only works on nvidia cards

Oculus has done their own implmentation of LMS that is cross platform, or so it seems

as part of the SDK

AMD cards do have support for LMS style stuff, its just that no one ever uses the VR stuff of AMD, becouse you gotta implement it on engines yourself

if this is a "generic" implementation, then its a huge deal

lol

trademarks on the source comments...

too bad its a huge multi-commit so not going to be easy to find the code

this one is for Pimax

          - Blueprint get set nodes for the Hand property will still function but will warn as deprecated, this is achieved via using deprecated BlueprintGetter and BlueprintSetter on the property (plus a change to UHT to allow that to compile)```

well, dammit

thats a huge change

changing it to a fname is super easy to get wrong

and they now have left and right oculus touch 3d models in the engine

looking at the code

yup, now MultiRes is official

there is also some ps4 HDR changes in the commit

for some reason

this is how they changed the ControllerHand thing

this is cluttering the commit...