someone was talking about it yesterday
#game-jam-chat
hollow bay
the problems of a solo programmer team
my museum will be filled with mostly masks which i already have from a art pack 😂😂😂
i did manage to change the flags from usa to dutch flags though
civic dock
I'm in a similar boat. I'm going solo and the Marketplace will, more or less, be my art department.
I'll be focusing on Blueprints, story, audio and level design.
minor hemlock
story? what's that
sonic echo
Kind of doing the same, a simple Story, Simple Gameplay, and Level Design. So far the only assets right now is just some meshes as placeholders and gonna grab some audio files.
rugged plaza
@civic dock my exact plans lol. I'm even torn shading the whole game just so I can use more stuff lol
civic dock
Does anyone know of a good resource for high-quality animal sounds? They're surprisingly difficult to find.
Since it's a game jam I'm looking for free assets. I've found some amazing libraries of animal sounds from Cornell University and other similar sources, but they don't allow downloads. 😞
cedar spindle
@civic dock No better time like a gamejam to make your own! 😄
civic dock
@cedar spindle Haha as much as I'd love to, I'm not equipped to record the animal sounds I need for my game.
I might be able to fake them, but... oof.
storm blade
dawn lily
I was starting to think im the only one left behind at the idea and finding assets stage but apparently not. Was it the same situation with previous jams? Or is this theme quite hard? xD
civic dock
This is normal for me. I spend a couple days on design and pre-production before building anything.
heavy moon
Does the jam get rated by anyone still or just the Unreal team?
I feel like if it's anyone, the snow thing is still gonna be taken at pretty face level with the theme matching part of the rating
crystal tree
Fairly sure the judging is by folks at Epic, no community ratings
sonic echo
sense I'm going solo, so gonna do some simple graphics, maybe PS1 level in some aspects
glass fossil
I am still deciding on this jam. I am honestly unsure if the prizes are worth the trouble...
The only one that seems to show merit is the Army of One prize.
And even so, I doubt I stand a chance...
I never won a single award in any of these jams, and time has never been more precious for my commercial games since this pandemic started.
sturdy stag
Anybody else using assembla? Did the space get created for you, or do you have to create the space yourself?
short lintel
I could not eneter because I was rejected by teams.
proper fox
@sturdy stag I used the link on here https://itch.io/jam/2020-unreal-spring-jam and then created a repository in the space I got invited to
sturdy stag
@proper fox I never got invited to a space. Got an authentication error too when trying to do a p4 login. Ended up on dev.azure.com using git lfs. Thanks
oblique cairn
augh, missed the start of this jam
(shoulda been checking my email)
no special cats this time?
oh, yes there is - solo, tiny and XR
obtuse imp
well i just text packaged by game so far, just over 100mb at 129 lmao
Tbh, might try and see if i can squeeze it down to under 100mb, but if its starts affecting the quality too much, i think i will end up submitting as is
feral wind
getting something happening! 😄
glass fossil
Trying to do this solo. But having troubles just navigating the interface, much less creating blueprints and figuring out how to actually make functions. So this is going to be an epic fail for me. Maybe that's why they call it Epic...
feral wind
I don't think I needa implment that viewport scale trick that chris murphy does in his Udemy course
@glass fossil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CklW5wZj1Ic&list=PLSlkDq2rO1t62PpQ7WsC_1RkyZTjEdBq4
youtube.com/watch?v=5Gt444eN7Rg&list=PLSlkDq2rO1t5r1tj6gLWD_EesQ8IZtN_h
I'm solo devving it
and I'm just focussing on art! 😄
and getting an AI to like
AI move to player
and kill them
2020 Goty
and I'm going to have fun
and learn some stuff
thats the entire spirit of the game jam
glass fossil
I am also focusing on art and chose really simple mechanics that should be easy. I'm familiar with UDK and Kismet and I hated it back then. I did not think they could possibly make visual scripting any harder. I was very wrong.
feral wind
the winners are always going to be a senior developer, who's made more games than we've played. so the spirit of the game jam, is an extra motivator in learning the power of Unreal engine. 🙂
and you will feel great about it.
what are you having trouble with?
also, use Worldaligned Textures, as much as possible.
to get your environment art done quick 😉
glass fossil
Tbh, I just need better documentation that lists the names of each node and what it does. I need to know the c++ equivalent of what's going on. I keep looking for documentation, but everything I find sends me to video tutorials and what I need is something searchable, or better yet, to see the c++ version of a full blueprint.
feral wind
the power of unreal is usually unlocked through lots of video tutorials :/
you can do this! >:)
glass fossil
I appreciate the enthusiasm.
glass fossil
Not what I need to hear really. But thanks for trying.
short lintel
I could not eneter because I was rejected by teams.
glass fossil
@short lintel Me too, hence why I tried doing it solo. But golly, it's way too much to jump into as an artist.
dawn lily
do you guys use the starter content walls in your games if you need to make a building or something or you build everything from scratch?
glass fossil
I also build the level in my 3D program.
hollow silo
Hello! I saw "Farm Animal Pack" is free right now I wonder it's possible If I sculpt my own Cat and use Animation from this pack? Something like I import my Cat with a Pig animation it's possible?
glass fossil
The rig for your cat would need to be the same as the rig for the pig and then you should be able to copy over animations.
sonic echo
sense I'm going solo on this project, I thought I do the models and textures for my game. (I'm not a solid artist and no tablet), however my game your playing the role of a child so gonna go with a simple Kids Hand drawn look for my game, here are the first tree attempts
glass fossil
Wow
sonic echo
on the what I did?
obtuse imp
btw, if you have say used no thirdparty/premade content, does that or stuff relating to that need to be said/stated in game itself, or will the UE submission section be where to put that if at all? (just as if you third used party assets you disclaim etc)
minor hemlock
it'll have a section in the submission form iirc
vapid thistle
Has anyone had any trouble importing audio from Bfxr? When I import it I can't hear the audio anymore but it sounds right when I play it in VLC Media Player
glass fossil
Same here
hardy rune
crystal crag
quick question that maybe its asked. Can we use megascans textures or some marketplace assets ?
cedar spindle
@dawn lily sure, also don't be afraid to use BSPs then convert em to static meshes. I've used that method entirely for several gamejams
dawn lily
@cedar spindle , thanks man, i guess i will just go with starter content walls and build what i need as i go, i always tend to overcomplicate the situation and these game jams are a good way of learning how to focus
sonic echo
Thats what I'm doing, wondering if the game I'm making is a simplistic puzzle game, wonder if I should keep it to like 3 Puzzles
crystal crag
@glass fossil Thanks for answer
rugged plaza
Still from my games environment
This is from building the start level
Side Scroller level
still osprey
nice art
minor hemlock
https://imgur.com/a/zijzoL9 wheeeeee
verbal tapir
Working on a name generator
hardy rune
Thanks for RTing my meme @wet rivet 😆
rugged plaza
@gleaming lagoon I am using a simple toon shader and an outline and normal line shader I made. No shadows.
minor hemlock
I'm kinda wishing tiny award was for <150mb games at this point 😛
because I might have a chance at that 
gleaming lagoon
ok
rugged plaza
This is first time I'm not going tor tiny award
sonic echo
still making some crude models trying to remember that childern art skills are crude which for a game where your playing a child is probably fitting
stable kiln
@glass fossil why not use megascans? 😛
you should be able to join ur MP place packs with megascan lib or something
those packs are kinda messed up 😛
its even more messed up if u just want a material function 😛
distant ibex
Ya it’d be nice if they fixed some of the packs where the axis is not a mile from the mesh
stable kiln
yea thats some dcc workflow
not verry modular
it has the pivot correct but than they export the whole scene with world origin or something
me starting content examples for a button, about to compile a whole bunch of shaders 😛
civic dock
@minor hemlock Yeah I feel ya. At this point I think they might need to re-evaluate the size requirement. The engine has gotten much larger since they first started the Tiny Award.
minor hemlock
like if they had a "reasonable" baseline and gave 20mb on top of that or something
and if you were able to get more by doing all the blacklisting tricks, power on ya
civic dock
Yeah. As of 4.25, it seems like 100MB is no longer feasible for launcher builds, only for custom source builds from GitHub.
minor hemlock
biggest oof
civic dock
Indeed. I always enjoyed the challenge of the Tiny Award, but now I can't get any lower than 91MB, and that's being very aggressive disabling some stuff that might cause more headaches than it's worth. And 9MB is barely any headroom at all.
sonic echo
I mean if the game is very low polly there is a possibility, but I'm not expecting my game to be that small, though if it has a strong chance maybe I'll try it
minor hemlock
you can have a decent amount of polygons
it comes down a lot more to textures and audio tbh
civic dock
Yeah polys aren't the issue at all.
Audio is the biggest hurdle. If you're making a game for the Tiny Award, you've probably already forgone textures altogether.
Even then, 9MB of headroom for the entire game with audio is bonkers.
sonic echo
or very PS1 small textures maybe
distant ibex
Do you have to use 4.25
civic dock
No, not at all.
sonic echo
maybe near the end I can take the cartoony textures and lower the quality of them and see
civic dock
But it would be nice to use the latest and greatest, especially after they've promoted the new features so heavily.
civic dock
Sure. I'm not suggesting previous versions of the engine have no good audio features.
It's just a bummer for Tiny Award fans to hit a wall.
civic dock
4.24 is a great version too, and it still supports 32-bit, so that's the best bet I think.
minor hemlock
open up youtube videos in the background
sonic echo
Reall Question though is it the Game itself that has to be 100mb or is it the Zip file
civic dock
The game itself, unzipped.
As it says on the page: "total size of packaged playable game"
sonic echo
Um not gonna say what that looks like
civic dock
I think it's OK if you add a custom material, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
sonic echo
I'm doing a paper flat look kind of like a kid drew the world (your playing a child in my game)
minor hemlock
mine has a hat too 👍 safety first
civic dock
I'm writing a short story before diving into development. (I do a lot of pre-production)
I've spent the past two days absorbed in research, brainstorming and spooky music.
It's great to see everyone's progress. Keep it up!
sonic echo
LOL I'm starting to maybe cause my game takes place in a childs drawn world, maybe I use my own voice to make all the sounds in the game, like a kid is making all the noise in the game. sort of making my game practicaly 100% made by me
sonic echo
man and surprise allot of the themes is gonna be snow, granted I'm doing snow to but messing aroud with the actually saying
proper fox
I'm gonna be super interested in a dynamic winter > spring transition. hope someone goes for that 😄
tepid flower
Is there a way to remove the drum?
I can select the part I don't want, but delete doesn't remove it
sonic echo
that Down to Earth Jam wasn't great for me first time drops, was on my own for a day or two, new team but they didn't coaperate to well
tepid flower
The paragon asset is like 1GB if I strip out the audio clips and FX.
https://youtu.be/B-1FfPSMPBU
sonic echo
Do you wanna build a snow man (out of spheres and planes)
dawn lily
@sonic echo , looks great dude 😃
sonic echo
thanks, trying to make the game simlple, like a child drew/create the world, so in a way pretty much all the models and textures are done by me (and I'm doing this Solo)
cedar spindle
100MB is actually quite a bit. If you compress your build, cut out plugins and features you don't need, you can get games pretty small. Don't forget you can package for mobile as well. I had a 3D Android game built to ~27MB and it had music and stuff.
sonic echo
it could depend on the size of the game and stuff
cedar spindle
But yeah once you start using 8k textures you're hozed for targeting that
But that's why it's there. To reward more minimally styled games
Or 2D!
sonic echo
if my game is very simple enough I might try and have it fit 100, going with alot of very low poly and flat models, with very crude textures to mimix a childs art world
cedar spindle
Neat. Seems doable!
sonic echo
yeah, guess I'm giving myself a little extra challenge, other then just using place holder models to test the programs (there be removed) the whole game is pretty much is made by me, Programing, Art, Models, maybe sound effects
tepid flower
Nah could be Bobbit Downhill Skiing
If you did a barber shop ribbon on the body it might look less eggplant
cedar spindle
There are lots of things you can do to reduce package size, but most important is checking "create compressed cooked packages."
More things you can do: https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Engine/Performance/ReducingPackageSize/index.html
obtuse imp
well ive just submitted, thankfully nothing went terrible wrong haha 😅
cedar spindle
Yep
obtuse imp
i tried half way through, ended up not doing it as well
minor hemlock
I forgot to hook up one little thing
also a little snafu with animation caching I think
they've all got the same animation even though it's dependent on their velocity lol
dawn lily
Yeah 1 wasn't a game, probably its hidden
obtuse imp
@sonic echo oh thats mine lol
sonic echo
ah I see, got it done pretty quick
obtuse imp
honestly wasnt expecting it done till end, also ngl, i feared i wouldnt come up with a viable idea with the theme at first lol
stable kiln
u can just submit now, see if u can upload and download now, and update it later
spend 80 hours and try upload in last min not a good idea
sonic echo
whats is the game about that fits the theme?
obtuse imp
the inevitability of truth / reveals, i took the metaphorical meaning, also one of the endings quotes it in nicely lol
sonic echo
ah, I see, don't have time to play the game so just judging the 1 min video
dawn lily
Are multiple submissions allowed?
obtuse imp
@glass fossil not to mention im guessing theres more entries this time round lol
no idea
how many joined last time roughly?
sonic echo
That PC is inticing for allot of people
sonic echo
1,170
Joined
obtuse imp
so....with the solo dev prize, woah....
sonic echo
well allot are teams I guess
would be cool to win the PC, planning to get one anyway, so might as well try and see if I can win one
glass fossil
i would like that PC, but im not going to aim for prizes. ||Like i had skills for that, lol||
minor hemlock
I can break it down, but yes it's just using character movement
the slope is set as unwalkable, so it's literally sliding physics
with a ton of air control
minor hemlock
it doesn't positively affect your score, but it also doesn't detract
sonic echo
they won't judge them
obtuse imp
so if you made all assets from scratch for the jam, say baring a remixed music piece and some fonts, that would be a positive effect? lol
hollow bay
i'm starting to get some type of world lol
the main level and "tutorial" walkway are starting to be here
crystal crag
mhm thank you
sonic echo
probably, I'm doing the same as you, making the assets from scratch
no they just won't count them
minor hemlock
I'm using the epic provided Capsule 🤦♂️ oh no
obtuse imp
only thing i cant do really at all, but wish i could would be programming
I did the exact opposite i guess lol, only it was visual scripting rather than programming
sonic echo
@minor hemlock if the capsule is an issue, you can go into bender and make a capsule
minor hemlock
@sonic echo I did 🙂 wouldn't be able to bend it otherwise!
hollow bay
i can't do art besides boxes and circles
most of that is from some polygon packs i got
so most of my gameplay elements are programmed already, and have to do a lot of level design now
obtuse imp
usually if its along term project, mechancis/loop priority, with some gamejams though i kinda do the opposite
guess its all about time frame /scope
sonic echo
do wonder if it's okay to use spheres and box meshes in Unreal, or should just make them in blender and import them in
minor hemlock
yes you can use the unreal default shapes 😛
sonic echo
yeah no issues using them, just don't have that default map
minor hemlock
can't remember if that takes priority when you manually select a map to package
sonic echo
if anything I can always make the the sphere and sphere in blender and importing it in
cedar spindle
If you copy the mesh from the engine content folder to your project then it wont be engine content anymore.
I usually do this as I almost always end up using a cube for something, but don't need all the engine content stuff in my build.
sonic echo
so basically don't worry about using the meshes that come with Unreal 4
just only the defualt map
minor hemlock
default player movement is A+ 
sonic echo
so are people able to post games now and update it as the Jam goes on
nothing says movemt
minor hemlock
yes, I've submitted and plan to update my submission daily
just in case I get hit by a bus
or forget to upload
tepid flower
Using the default template movement is good. I'm sure they just won't want a bunch of submissions that are only the 3rd person project template. They want to see something a little more with added gameplay.
I.e. Go ahead and add custom UI, map triggers, some objective, make it interesting
minor hemlock
tl;dr make a game and at the very least change the grid material
tepid flower
If I want an invisible player wall and I use block PAWN. It also blocks any Actor. How is an actor (static mesh) a pawn?
I just want to keep the player in the demo area
There we go
Walls keep in the player, but other meshes can roll into the volume.
ancient delta
can't think of anything good for this theme
minor hemlock
a game where you need to make a meal for dinner, but everything in the freezer is frozen
you can have that idea on the house 👍
sonic echo
LOL, Luckily I have an idea of a simple puzzle game, just need to try and at least make 3 puzzles for the Jam
distant ibex
@ancient delta join the club 😦
tepid flower
I'm using the jam to get more familiar with the engine.
sonic echo
You know this cross my mind, There was this puzzle in the last GameJam and I'm pretty much using the same puzzle in this Jam, I complete programed it from scratch and there is some slight difference, but its similar to a puzzle in my last gamejam, wonder if that is a problem
glad wing
can we assume that the games will be judged on reasonably beefy machines?
civic dock
I'd say so.
glad wing
my VR thing can do 90fps on my 2080 but juuust barely
civic dock
Free idea: A side-scrolling platformer where you play as a snowball. When you roll over cold areas, you freeze and become heavier; roll over hot areas and you shrink but become more nimble.
tepid flower
I've done UE4 plugins. But for the jam, learned how to do custom characters, projectiles, animation blueprints, blueprint classes, and loads of connecting C++.
sonic echo
just wondering any issue in recreating a Puzzle you might have made in a past GameJam. I mean I made a simple combination lock, so don't think its much issue
civic dock
That's fine.
You made it from scratch and it's similar, but identical.
Don't overthink what you're allowed to do. It's very simple:
- Make what you can during the jam
- If you use premade assets, libraries, or plugins, credit them in the submission form
You won't lose points for premade assets, they just won't count towards your score.
From the official rules (emphasis mine):
Three (3) potential Finalist Prize winners will be selected among all Qualified Submissions received during the Contest Period according to the following criteria:
●Unique Use of Contest Theme(Up to 5 points)
●Fun Factor(Up to 5 points)
●Visuals(Up to 5 points)The three (3) highest scoring Qualified Submissions will be deemed the potential Finalist Prize winners. Judging scores will not be revealed.
Sourced (non-original) assets will not be reviewed and scored.In the event of a tie, the tying Submissions will be re-scored with double weight given to Fun Factor.
sonic echo
alright good, I recreated a Combination Lock system cause one of the puzzles for my game using comination and the system fits
and I recreated it for the Jam and such
tepid flower
Messing with the collision flags. It should be simple for two actors to be able to hit each other....????
gleaming lagoon
is adding asset pack to a different project then migrating to my game going to save space when exporting game?
wet rivet
Do you have generate hit results on?
fallen smelt
@gleaming lagoon yes that is a good practice for working with asset packs in general
only migrate the stuff you actually use
rugged plaza
@gleaming lagoon you need to package only maps, that way nothing that isnt IN the game gets packaged.
As far as for putting it on github or something yes you need to strip everything you aren't using.
tepid flower
I have the MeshComponent on Block All. And the Sphere Collider Component on Overlap. I have generate overlap events on for the collider. Generate overlap events is on for the collider.
rugged plaza
And for exporting, anything you export to another project usually only exports what is actually used in whatever you are exporting.
wet rivet
@tepid flower Do you have hit events on?
dawn lily
I wanted to ask @civic dock, as you explained by pointing to the rules about sourced materials not being judged. What if you use them as the basis? As in modifying base megascans in mixer and coming up with something new? Still considered use of pre-made?
dawn lily
@rugged plaza, yeah since Epic is telling you go use megascans if you want, it's free xD
tepid flower
Checking settings the overlap events are on. Simulate physics is on. I think I just saw it fire. Okay this seems to be okay.
dawn lily
@tranquil matrix, any help?
rugged plaza
I guess if you are painting textures it really counts as new if you bake them afterwards
That is still work
dawn lily
That's my guess too but i just wanted to confirm
rugged plaza
My scope is so big for solo in 5 days, I am not sure I will have time to make any 3d assets lol
Just disclose what you did and let them decide
Here comes Victor
tranquil matrix
Any premade assets needs to be listed, but feel free to detail how you utilized them
dawn lily
Alright thats better, thanks @tranquil matrix
My scope is so big for solo in 5 days, I am not sure I will have time to make any 3d assets lol
@rugged plaza same here and i'm a programmer anyway so i really suck with anything art (from scratch) hahaha
minor hemlock
#ProgrammerArt https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669568622665924649/719000045122486302/unknown.png
rugged plaza
That is great. I can make amazing Lego characters but I still can't rig them to an epic skeleton worth a F
Is your game seriously finished @minor hemlock ?
tepid flower
There we go when the eggs hit they explode, spawn a fire emitter and die!
minor hemlock
no, I haven't done the theme tie in yet
or any of my usual polish (menuing, game flow, etc)
rugged plaza
Oh ok I saw it was submitted
sonic echo
man hard part I'm having is coming up with some decent puzzles
rugged plaza
I am gonna be cutting it thin this go around.
sonic echo
what you mean
rugged plaza
Mean I might not get everything done that I want to do. I'm trying to lay everything out and have an entire playable game first then go back and add stuff.
I have always super simple games
obtuse imp
ngl tempted to make an outiside segment for mine...would be ambitious, but honestly looking back think it could be viable
sonic echo
Real debate with me is coming up with some puzzles, I got 2 simple ones down, but could use maybe 1 or 2 more
obtuse imp
wasnt it 3 you were aiming for in total? Maybe combine aspects from 1 and 2, rather than work from ground up if needed
sonic echo
yeah kind of trying to this of the best way to combine the two
rigid fog
tepid flower
Attaching particle emitters as components looks neat
glass fossil
Terrain is setup. Programming the features now.
tepid flower
Looking good!
sonic echo
yeah remind me of Mario
hardy rune
the water texture is temporary, found one in the internet to test the material
brittle tinsel
Working on a little arctic adventure. Just finished texturing the player character.
gloomy palm
I also made a character, but most likely this does not get into the game, because the game will not be 🥳
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/718463449658687488/718580764135915540/unknown.png
hardy rune
loved the style
gloomy palm
I made a hero - an antagonist who according to the scenario of the game, who did not want spring to come))
tepid flower
Wow you can crash your entire editor on launch if you bind an onhit function in the constructor:
OnActorHit.AddDynamic(this, &ASTEgg::HandleOnActorHit);
Works fine when I moved from the constructor to begin play
Just one of those gotchas
hardy rune
combat done
the game is becoming oddly satisfying, wish I had a shorter game idea to polish it more
I still have plenty to do
pastel moth
that looks cute af homes
hardy rune
thanks!
distant ibex
I made an infinite loop earlier and had to task manager my project away
Making something spawn infinitely on begin play is a bad thing apparently
tepid flower
Everybody loves an infinite recursive loop
wet rivet
Everybody loves an infinite recursive loop
wet rivet
That looks really good 😍 I love that character design
What new rendering stuff are you using on this?
tulip viper
@wet rivet took off a bunch of the post processing and went with realtime lighting
using the new sky atomosphere and a few other things
the layout stuff is odd, but certainly helpful sa well
dawn lily
isn't the sky and atmosphere 4.26?
tulip viper
@rigid fog thanks!
@dawn lily its a new icon to me... so could have been from 4.24.... i honestly dont know
been out on the ocean blue (on a ship) for the past 4 months
dawn lily
yeah xD i'm just asking because i saw a video recently and they were talking about features still coming in 4.26, but perhaps there is an earlier version that got in earlier. anyway great job with the look of the game man
hardy rune
I need one more monster design and then I'm calling its bestiarium done
hardy rune
Still have to work at music and puzzles
I started yesterday because of work so pray for me and my spaghetti monsters (blueprints)
tepid flower
Ooo another way to crash UE4 by creating a method called BeginDestroy() 🙂
If it's so dangerous make it a virtual and require an override
At least it gave a good stack trace
dawn lily
well it is virtual
the word override is just a syntactic thing, if you don't add it, the compiler won't complain. So what you did is basically override that, and i guess if you didn't call the super, you pretty much messed up the order of things. I'm assuming you mean the BeginDestroy of AActor
tepid flower
Neah I was just making a new method that I was unaware collided with the existing AActor.
tulip viper
SNOW GOBLIN
iron matrix
SNOW GOBLIN
@tulip viper T-pose on your enemy to assert dominance
tulip viper
ahaha yep
hardy rune
major functionalities are done
tulip viper
very cool
obtuse imp
thats looking great
proper fox
@dawn lily volumetric clouds come in 4.26
dawn lily
@proper fox , ah yeah i remember now, thanks for pointing that out dude
tulip viper
finally got him rigged! now time to animate this mofo
hardy rune
lumberjacks and orcs, nice mashup
I'm satisfied with everything I've done, but not the game story and theme relation
feral wind
gettin some Patrolling AI working! 😄
crisp rose
Do I need to mention to "List any content that was created before the jam" the Quixel Materials?
somber hazel
@crisp rose Yes, you need to mention Quixel Materials if you used them
crisp rose
Thanks good sir
hardy rune
Finally decided, I'm going to restart the game concept to a more fun way
glass fossil
😢 😢 😢
dawn lily
@glass fossil , what did it cost to compile all those shades? everything
glass fossil
Will tell after profiling
somber hazel
When I see a landscape material I hope you are not using 4.24 and tesselation 😮
hardy rune
proper fox
is distance based tessellation since 4.25?
hardy rune
hey, someone already usedy the 3D text built in ue4?
glad wing
can’t get close enough to the clouds to hold up the scanner 😛
static trellis
Game almost finished
vapid thistle
How big of an impact should displacement be having on my fps?
It's seeming to have dropped it by around 20ish
glad wing
that seems way excessive. are you using raytracing?
vapid thistle
lol, nope no ray tracing, I just realized that I imported the wrong version of a model
So I was using displacement of a couple of hundred thousand triangles per mesh
static trellis
Hey, so for the submission, do we have to write things that we took from either Quixel or The marketplace?
vapid thistle
Yep, anything that you didn't make yourself you need to declare
static trellis
Okay.
But if I took a model and like completely modified the texture and everything
mortal moth
Hi you all! I'm participating of the jam as well and I've been streaming the process it on twitch
vapid thistle
@static trellis you would still need to declare that you used the model and that you modified the texture
mortal moth
static trellis
Okay. Thanks tate.
static trellis
I am doing more of an exploration game.
sonic echo
I'm doing a simple puzzle game where your playing through the eyes of the child
mortal moth
I'm doing an puzzle/exploration where you play as a leaf =D
sonic echo
aw what you do as the leaf
mortal moth
aw what you do as the leaf
@sonic echo you bring spring to your friends trees
idk if i can share the stream link here
if you hop on twitch i can show you the gameplay
static trellis
I want to see it
sonic echo
so like fly the leaf to a winter tree and the tree becomes spring
mortal moth
static trellis
This is the first jam I am in so I do not expect to win but I hope to.
mortal moth
so like fly the leaf to a winter tree and the tree becomes spring
@sonic echo yeee
thats it
static trellis
It looks amazing.
sonic echo
a interesting I'm doing something sort of similar actully though mine does a different thing
mortal moth
I'm planning on finish the loop of the game today
sonic echo
so did you solo or a team
mortal moth
I'm soloing as well!
sonic echo
ah, yeah all doing what we can to see if we can win that gaming PC
mortal moth
that PC looks sooooo coool
static trellis
Yeah.
mortal moth
Good luck you al!
static trellis
Thanks.
static trellis
All of the interior has been made by me but the exterior was an existent model edited tho by me.
But the exterior will be seen about 50 seconds.
tulip viper
snow gun!
faint gazelle
If we are making a solo game, are we allowed to use some megascans assets as long as we state that we used them?
hardy rune
@faint gazelle yes
faint gazelle
nice, thanks
i just found out about the gamejam like an hour ago so wish me luck lol
hardy rune
good luck man! I started yesterday
faint gazelle
ok cool im glad im not the only one kinda late on this
sonic echo
best of luck man
crisp rose
sonic echo
a horror game?
sonic echo
@hardy rune nice little boss, your on a team
hardy rune
no, I'm solo
sonic echo
ah you said we so thats why I ask
hardy rune
sorry, I have invisible friends that help me code
sonic echo
whats the game your making?
sonic echo
lol well was curous what kid of game it is, guessing flamethrower against snow
minor hemlock
I think I have my main game implemented now 🙂 just for menuing 🤦♂️
awful awful menuing
sonic echo
I think I'm getting close to getting this done, like the main game aspects is basically done, just need to finish laying out the levels
then finish some models, add some sounds, menus, and some story bits
hardy rune
models, monsters, mechanics done. Got some sounds too
Still need to make the theme relation more lit
I don't want to implement ui so I aimed for a simpler solution for a title menu
hardy rune
still can't quantify it
I tried to use the buil-in 3D text but it still sucks as beta
no collision and no access to its materials made me create the texts in blender
vapid thistle
lol yeah, menuing is definitely not my favorite part
minor hemlock
do it for the screenshots 😄
hardy rune
I love using widgets, but the game is controlled by keyboard or gamepad
I don't want to take the time to set, or use a plugin to have gamepad/keyboard compatibility, so I won't create mouse menus
for now, only the audio wasn't a game jam creation
sonic echo
Man I am my own worse critic, just thinking my game might be to short or not good enough... gotta stop letting it get to me
dawn lily
@glass fossil , that's some nice ice melting dude
minor hemlock
?
sonic echo
vapid thistle
And our first build attempt
minor hemlock
published vs updated
you want to be watching the Submissions page for actual submissions and not get flooded by updates (shortly) 🙂
side note, this is really cool: https://itch.io/randomizer?jam_id=14773
The randomizer has been configured to show random submissions to 2020 Unreal Spring Jam. If you've rated anything it will be excluded.
vapid thistle
This makes us very happy
sonic echo
Yeah I was confused by the Jam feed, I am a bit tired but looking close to getting the thing done, could give me plenty of time to add models and add some polish and such
vapid thistle
My entire content browser is only 7.62MB 😄
sonic echo
oh whats your game?
vapid thistle
@tranquil matrix just a quick clarification but do we need to have our gameplay footage before we submit?
minor hemlock
it's a required field this time though 🤔
vapid thistle
It looks to be
tranquil matrix
Yes you need to submit it prior to the deadline
vapid thistle
Okay, thank you!
sonic echo
of course no issue posting a current build and updating the game before the Jam ends right?
tranquil matrix
But you can upload your game to your page and do all of that work before you submit it to the jam - If someone's reading this and they're unfamiliar with how itch work, you need to upload your game to your account first, and then submit it to the game jam. There are two steps involved.
Not an issue olinkalex
Your game page will only be locked for uploads once the deadline hits
sonic echo
@minor hemlock did you make the sounds for the game?
minor hemlock
do you think you could find that quality on free sounds websites 🤔
that pristine discordance
yes, yes I did
sonic echo
LOL part of me is thinking of doing the same, the game has a look as a kid drew it, so maybe making like a kid making the noises
crude ether
Hey guys! Hope your projects are good 🙂 Just want to share few screenshots of my upcoming submission to the jam (my game is mostly narrative driven story)
thank you! 🙂
minor hemlock
this is making me want to learn how to model again 🙂
crude ether
yeah you could easily recognize some assets, been using them really much
hardy rune
Hey Dazvolt, are you going solo?
crude ether
hey, yup
tulip viper
intelligent gobos use snow as their cover! 🙂
somber hazel
I like his nose 🥕
minor hemlock
hot tip: if you aren't implementing a save system and your game has some sort of impression it's a good idea to make a publicly usable cheat system!
if your game needs console commands it's already a lost cause
that said, it's fun for streamers 😛
that's kind of on them 😛
it's not like your game is a 100 hour experience
their rig can survive its fans on blast for 15 minutes 🤣
static trellis
Is anyone here going for the realistic category?
minor hemlock
Is This Real Life? is a VR/AR category, not realism
sonic echo
Might see if my game could hit 100mb
minor hemlock
I think I'm out of the running just by using the default skybox 😛
still osprey
imagine not using skybox at all cause your game takes place indoors 💩 👌
somber hazel
anyone going mobile and wants to tell me which android sdk is working with 4.24? ❤️
should have tested before jam, but wasn't hyped about going mobile, until the theme hit 🙂
glad wing
@tranquil matrix do you have any idea how much VR space the judges will have? my game currently works in like 2.5x2.5m but any smaller is gonna require some redesigning
sonic echo
think they have the space they need to play any game type, if the didn't they probably would have mention it.
glad wing
I assume that’s true as a general rule, but given the COVID quarantines I don’t want to make somebody run into their apartment wall 😛
rugged plaza
The plot thickens...
tranquil matrix
@glad wing I think we can make that work - However, you’re limiting the amount of players that can play it if that’s the minimum required play space
somber hazel
alrighty, packaged for mobile, 31mb apk 👌
at this point I might flex and use a couple of 4k megascans textures, because I can 😅
minor hemlock
Hah
tulip viper
why would this node stop working
with a new landscape?
no.... grass
on a different landscape... no issues...
wtf.... i closed the level and opened it back up and it works 😦
k nevermind
tepid flower
That seems to happen every time a new UFUNCTION or UPROPERTY is added. Restart the editor if it doesn't crash.
brittle tinsel
Day 4ish. There's gameplayish.
dawn lily
@brittle tinsel, you are going solo or with a team?
brittle tinsel
Solo this time
dawn lily
good job man, i'm still stuck in art hell. Art handicapped programmer here xD
brittle tinsel
Thanks! I’m an artist who can code/my day job is programming. Best of luck getting those assets done! Can’t wait to see. 🙂
tepid flower
I added a score mechanism. Learning a lot. Like how to connect a WBP to the player to get the score from the WBP event graph. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5sfb13aAuQ
tulip viper
humble begging's
hollow silo
Hi, When "Package Project" Did UE4 gonna Packing everything in project? or just Packing only things that used in The Level I opened?
mortal moth
it will pack the entire project
glass fossil
Unsure if I will even make it to the jam deadline.
I got the turret cannon rotating and firing sound. I just need muzzleflash and working projectile.
hoary trout
"List any content that was created before the jam that was included in the final submission."
does this mean I have to list all the assets used to make the game ?
dawn lily
yes you do, but i'm not sure if we are supposed to be mentioning exactly what we used from asset packs for example or just mention the asset pack only
verbal tapir
ancient delta
going to list every file used to build unreal engine
@verbal tapir cool characters dude :D
polar orbit
Any one have this issue where the editor breaks somehow and now all playerstart, directional light, etc billboards no longer face you in the perspective viewport? It seems to be project specific as I've verified the editor and other projects are still working fine
ancient delta
that's odd .___.
polar orbit
yeah there seems to be other problems too. My last backup was 12 hours ago oof
proper fox
@glass fossil that's some sick ice
proper fox
that pretty much sums up my weekend
hardy rune
that pretty much sums up my life lol
hardy rune
oof, finally decided how I'll relate to the theme, after 2 soft resets
time to go back to work
verbal tapir
the whole cast of the game
dawn lily
that is really cool dude xDDDD
hardy rune
nice moustache
visual rover
What jam is this?
somber hazel
Alright, that's the gameloop everybody 😅 Doesn't make any sense right now, but I'm not gonna touch any code for the rest of the jam 🙂
void hull
after packaging my project, it runs on my machine but some other machines get only a black screen
anybody had this issue? unreal 4.25 on windows 10
tranquil matrix
@void hull Can you package a development build and get the logs from the PCs where it doesn't work?
verbal tapir
A pic right from the doomlord nest 🐦
void hull
@tranquil matrix Thanks man! I had a mpg4 file and it was including it from my local drive
I imported it the wrong way...
crystal crag
Is there anything i have to pre set somewhere like team name ? or when i click submit, i write everything there ? And also i'm working alone, do i need a team name or i write my own name ? i dont want to mess it up 😄
tranquil matrix
@crystal crag You first upload the game to your account, once that's done you submit it to the game jam, and once you do, all of the required submission details will be asked of you
You technically need a team name, but that can be your name 🙂
crystal crag
@tranquil matrix Thank you Victor, first year at UE4 Gamejam, and i luv it 😄
minor hemlock
(and don't forget the thing about zip file naming convention 😂 )
hardy rune
sonic echo
https://twitter.com/AlexOlinkiewicz/status/1270014799150268418 almost done with the game, just menus, story bits, sound effects, and maybe some effects
dawn lily
https://twitter.com/AlexOlinkiewicz/status/1270014799150268418 almost done with the game, just menus, story bits, sound effects, and maybe some effects
@sonic echo Nice portal dude 😄
sonic echo
Thanks having multiple portals render an image did cause some slowdown issues so I had to create a system, wher one portal image (render) will jump to the nearest door while the ScreenCapture will jump to the portal that the other door goes to
so there is only one render image thoughout the levels instead of 2 - 4
gleaming lagoon
yo that looks really good man
sonic echo
hey thanks man, honestly i'm my own worst critic so I keep thinking this is not worthy of a game jam needs to be bigger or complex... really gotta stop letting my mind over think things like that
static trellis
Is it alright if we use version 4.24?
hardy rune
any version is allowed
static trellis
I almost finished my game. I need to make the menu and add some more details.
sonic echo
same, need to just finish up the story, add a starting/ending menu and some sounds/effects
minor hemlock
@glass fossil oof is that Remorse of Revelations nvm I see it now, Horror Engine 😄
List any content that was created before the jam that was included in the final submission.
no
😬
sonic echo
I saw someone post Horror Engine
minor hemlock
I'm reminded of the megajam game that basically said the entire game was created before the jam
minor hemlock
🤷
misunderstanding of the rules
wanting eyeballs on your project
I think there was a realistic New Zealand walking sim that submitted on the first day of one jam
gtg stream some jam polish now 😄
hardy rune
taking shape
static trellis
I recreated the full game and made everything by my own
sonic echo
Yeah, the main point of all gamejams is "Make a Game in a set time starting at this date"
static trellis
I am planning to finish my game tomorrow at about 10 AM.
And then I will test it for about 2 hours to make sure everything is fine and submit it
It will be my first jam so I do not expect to win at all
sonic echo
does this pass off as a kids drawing?
kind of using kid drawings to tell my short games story
civic dock
Yeah I'd say so.
sonic echo
good, trying to draw with a mouse is a pain, but that crude look kind of help drives this is a kid
dawn lily
@sonic echo, i'm not sure if im too messed up but i dont see this as kids material haahaha
mental walrus
https://twitter.com/OvidiuTepes/status/1270073596447281152 lots of progress today 😄
my head hurts
dawn lily
@mental walrus, yeah i get you, the scope got so big for me, even though i tried to eliminate a lot of things. Hope we manage to finish and submit whatever we have man. Good luck 🙂
mental walrus
Good luck to you as well! keep rockin
crude ether
Just want to share some progress, tomorrow will upload my game, mostly just some polishing left 🙂 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCkDfoLqIRg
thanks! 🙂
distant ibex
@crude ether can I make a suggestion and increase the font size of the captions.
mental walrus
Wow that’s amazing
crude ether
@distant ibex thanks for the feedback! That's a good hint
distant ibex
It looks amazing though
crude ether
thank you guys 🙂
gleaming lagoon
damn dude thats crazy
distant ibex
That a solo dev game or team?
crude ether
solo dev
But I used much assets from marketplace (which I will list in the submission of course)
hehe, I have a bit of plans to extend game and it's story to something actually bigger 🙂
after jam
distant ibex
Hey as a solo dev you gotta do what you gotta do. Play to your strengths.
crude ether
cause now gameplay time is just about 10-15 min, can't afford more in such short jam
@distant ibex yeah, couldn't say better myself 🙂
your project looks fun, I like music in trailer 😄
distant ibex
Did they change the interface up in 4.25? like the Mode tab is gone
crude ether
something I would play just to relax
Did they change the interface up in 4.25? like the Mode tab is gone
@distant ibex yep
mode tab is now above viewport
it's a dropdown button
not a fan of this change though
distant ibex
Ok, thought maybe I messed with a setting bc I just noticed it was just called Place Actors
Ya saw that after awhile. had to open up an older version to make sure I wasn't going crazy or something
crude ether
yeah, I was looking for it first time like straight 10 minutes or something
still osprey
@crude ether GG, you just won PC
minor hemlock
mfw I accidentally save changes to an engine material for a silly jam game
crude ether
@still osprey 😄 let's see what the judging team will say later 🙂
verbal tapir
The office is starting to look good 😄
hardy rune
well I think it won't be finished in time, my cooler just stopped working
verbal tapir
The view 👀
tepid flower
I did a build, worried I might hit the 1GB limit. Compile is done after 20000 shaders and... 1.2MB
Turns out I can add a ton of more trees and rocks to decorate the scene
static trellis
@crude ether Your game is awesome.
still osprey
hollow silo
Hi, I got a problem with "Simulate Physics Objects", I took Blueprint Ability to freeze time from Marketplace and When I Freeze time and Jump on Simulate Physics Objects it just kick my character off the map Seem like it have some velocity force or something Anybody know how to fix this?
static trellis
4.24 Is way better for me.
dawn lily
@hardy rune , sorry to hear that man, hope you manage it somehow 😦
tepid flower
I have the same issue @hollow silo When I pick up an item if it touches my character it flings it across the map. I need to update the collision somehow to ignore an actor
civic dock
Man, I'm using this great tree pack for my little game but on its own the tree pack is over 1GB because all the textures are 4K or even 8K. 😱
The tree pack is larger than my entire game will be when packaged. lol
somber hazel
dawn lily
@civic dock, doesn't packaging only include the models and textures you have in your map?
tepid flower
Same but you can strip out a bunch of that. I used as well and my file size was still under 2MB
somber hazel
did I already say how much I love mobile packaging? 😄
tepid flower
I'm storing the repo on private github so trying to keep the source project under 1GB as well
civic dock
I'm using GitHub too. It's not a deal breaker having to store this pack in source control, but I'd prefer not to because it'll take a while to commit.
civic dock
lol
sonic echo
man wondering if I should just take some audio from an asset, everything else was created by me so maybe not a big deal to just grab a set of audio assets
tepid flower
I haven't done any audio yet. Time for Audacity and recording some sounds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0jo8VQ-zBY
sonic echo
still debating if I should make the sound myself, like the game your playing as a child and the style is a kids drawing so maybe a kid making the sounds like how kids do that when playing with toys
somber hazel
@sonic echo if you are already polishing and nothing else needs your attention, have some fun doing sound; otherwise just use free sound, most people use free sound anyway 🙂
obtuse imp
One trick I sometimes use is voice changer apps if you are at stage where you can experiment that can be fun
On paper sounds basic and bottom barrel, but with a bit of creativity I’ve found it can be also could for creating/enhancing original foley sounds not just voice based effects
And on top of that u can always refine it further even in free desktop apps like audacity
glass fossil
Whelp... I give up.
Blueprint barriers and cooking wants to botch on me again. I still don't have a fully workable game.
I did some thinking and I don't really think the prizes are worth the struggle for me this time around. Best of luck with the contest folks.
verbal tapir
@glass fossil Still lots of time left
dawn lily
@glass fossil , you still have a whole day man, don't worry, i'm not in a very good position myself, but no need to give up. If it's affecting your health (stress) then yeah stop it definitely, but otherwise you got this dude
rugged plaza
One day and some hours left. I'm so tired
crude ether
Released my entry, have fun playing all who are interested 🙂 https://itch.io/jam/2020-unreal-spring-jam/rate/666391
glass fossil
@verbal tapir @dawn lily What is the point honestly? Even if I complete my game jam entry, it won't stand a Void's chance to compete (like nigh all of my previous jam submissions). It ends up getting lost in the fog.
Besides, I realized the only thing I truly cared for from the Falcon Northwest computer is the "Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 Super 8GB" video card.
I think I could just buy that one on my own.
dawn lily
yeah i understand, but you will always find an excuse every game jam, cause that was me honestly. I just give up on the day before the last. Just telling you, it doesn't matter winning or losing or whatever as long as you improve your skills ma man
rugged plaza
Jams are good for learning
verbal tapir
Saying you completed and submitted an entry to a jam is worth it for the portfolio. Jam means dedication and dedication is what recruiters wants
crude ether
Personally I don't aim for prizes, and jams for me is a challenge, that's what the most fun part in it. Prizes is just a bonus
glass fossil
Perhaps, but that's why I've been working Maze Qore Arena. I just feel these jams have been interfering with my main projects more than it is benefiting me anymore. This was no issue in the previous years but it started hindering me in 2019. For this particular case, is it one particular prize I care for. I am not even aiming for finalist ones. I know I wont stand a chance there and the prizes on offer are not even of my interests. The only one I thought I may stand close to chance is the Army of One since I generally like working alone.
crude ether
oh yes, especially to plan what you want to include in the final game. Polishing can take up to half or even more of time
glass fossil
The longer I get distracted, the longer it takes for MQA to leave early access, and thus the longer it takes for Maze Qore to recover from stasis and resume development once more.
Not saying they are. I'm just saying personally for me, its probably best I bail on this jam. It's not in my best interests and I realized I am too busy to participate in these contacts (as much as I usually would not mind doing them just for fun). Knowing me, I am very prone to becoming unfocused and easily distracted. It's more of a personal flaw.
^ No I am not trying to mention my project for no reason. No need to gaslight.
crude ether
Dude it's okay, chill, you don't need to make excuses. Everything is okay
somber hazel
just try to bring a stupid idea to life and make sure you are doing it to pleasure yourself
if anything in that process makes you smile, win, if you make other smiles, win win
and if you are lucky and the stars align, then you can think about prizes 🙂
static trellis
Jams are good for experience and having a deadline which makes it less stressful on the next things
I am almost finished with my game
I am happy cuz now that I am using ue4 version 4.24, it does not freeze or crash my pc.
glass fossil
No one is complaining about the jam, I just simply stated it is not working out for me due to time constraints so I'm bailing out. And I even said best of luck with the jam. I have nothing against the jam.
I am trying to be chill, but @glass fossil wants to come off as an ass about it trying to invent trouble where there is honestly none.
Its unnecessary.
static trellis
Tomorrow I will have a lot of stress. I will finish the menu today and tomorrow, I will have to add a lot of details such as smoke, breakable stuff and water.
dawn lily
@crude ether , that's my same comment as ponkkis, the wolves sliding is a bit of a bad thing compared to the effort in the other aspects of the game. love the lighting and voice acting too, great job man 🙂
cedar spindle
Tip for an easy way to reduce project size when you are using asset packs, reducing texture resolutions can massively reduce your project size and memory usage. You can do this by editing the texture under compression. Also remember you can batch-edit files so you can reduce all of your texture sizes in one click. (Select assets, Right click, Asset Actions > Bulk Edit via Property Matrix. This operation does take a bit of time so UE4 may appear to freeze for a few minutes if you do a lot at once.) They must be in powers of 2 so 256, 512, 1024, 2048 etc. Reducing a single 8K texture to 2K can save around 41MB.
Depending on your setting, you can focus reduction on different textures for a material, so in low-light maybe reduce the albedo and displacement, but leave a high resolution normal map so you still perceive a lot of detail from a torch or something. Textures mostly viewed from above might not notice a reduced displacement texture resolution. I like to reduce down until I see a resolution reduction that looks a bit ugly, then go back up 1 step from there. For VR leave it at 'a bit ugly' 😄 Particularly when using assets like Megascans this can save massive amounts of space. Unless you are scaling the resolution up, or it is a large set piece or hero object close to the character (like a first person gun) 8K textures are rarely needed imo. You can do this for any texture, whether UI elements, trees, objects, landscapes, characters, and so on.
Hope that's helpful. Happy jamming hope everyone learns lots! That's most of why I do gamejams. 🙂
crude ether
@glass fossil @dawn lily thank you guys! Wolves animation is a bit hard for me, so yeah that's looking a bit clunky
what about the story, do you liked it? 🙂
dawn lily
@crude ether , yeah i found it interesting, would be nice seeing that evolve if you work on it after the jam too ^^
crude ether
I have such plans after jam end ^_^
gleaming lagoon
Dazvolt, there are animated wolves in this pack i got for free a while ago, would you like me to send them to you?
crude ether
@gleaming lagoon thank you! But I've found out, apparently that was a bug that I missed, I used set animation instead play animation so wolves started to slide instead of playing animation
gleaming lagoon
oh rip, ok
crude ether
also a few bugs in the final cutscene so I will uploaded fixes in a bit 🙂
thanks! And for the hint about end also 🙂
Yeah, voice is mine 🙂 You guessed right, I'm from Belarus, east europe 🙂
thank you very much 🙂 I've been referencing mostly from movies - "The Gray" and "Arctic" (and been trying to imitate voice to the same, heh)
distant ibex
@crude ether Ya the animations you see for the wolf in the opening scene did not play for the wolves in the scene by the 3rd fire.
crude ether
yeah that should be fixed now, update is live 🙂
distant ibex
When you die it says "Sometimes, it remains only a bit to survive..." (what does this mean? The sentence does not make sense to me.)
crude ether
well English is not my mother tongue, what I meant is that, sometimes you just need to be a bit better to survive
probably my spelling is not so good
😄
yeah that's my issue, I speak better than do writing stuff
distant ibex
You could say "Sometimes you need to work harder to survive."
crude ether
Yeah that would sound better I think
void hull
ok, submitted our entry: https://shipster.itch.io/kyainthewhite
and I cant spell "world" ....
yes, just fixed it
😉
obtuse imp
Edit button is always your friend lol
tepid flower
Where's the trailer? 60 seconds?
distant ibex
You know dang well that snow globe was made in Taiwan or China! @void hull
obtuse imp
Also my submissions had like 3 lets plays uploaded to YouTube, guessing it’s the horror tag lol
tepid flower
Yeah Doc, everything is made in China. (Back to the Future)
or maybe it was all the best stuff is made in Japan
obtuse imp
Lol
void hull
@tepid flower The game is super short. I uploaded the whole playthrough (4 minutes)... Should I change this?
I dont know if I break the rules...
tepid flower
I just mean link a short video in the itchy description
obtuse imp
For mine I kind of just stopped recording at 60 secs,
tepid flower
In the rules it wants a 30-60 video - https://itch.io/jam/2020-unreal-spring-jam
obtuse imp
I’d imagine as it’s easier to use in the highlight wheel, so the limit is there
void hull
yea, I saw that... I guess I will cut it. Thanks
dawn lily
i can't see the gameplay video link in the submission @void hull
obtuse imp
So how you guys been doing overall so far with the jam?
tepid flower
I haven't done a main menu and I need to fix my spring arm component on the character. Looking up and down, the character gets in the way of aiming.
It's probably a collider I should have on the mesh component so the camera goes in front of the character
dawn lily
i'm basically just starting my actual gameplay stuff now :"""D but i'm still hopeful
obtuse imp
Still a full day, a lot can be done ^ 👍
dawn lily
yeah exactly
tepid flower
You could do an entire new entry in 24 hours
somber hazel
6 puzzle levels here, but game looks ugly as hell 🙂
distant ibex
I still don't have a game idea so meep
obtuse imp
“But what will it cost? everything”
static trellis
I am almost finished. I should be finishing it tomorrow at about 10 AM
I have done everything myself.
obtuse imp
Same, good stuff
@glass fossil one on hand, I’d say yeah 100% but there are deffo exceptions
Where both are equal
tepid flower
I used the iterative process, small scope. Adding features a little at a time. Step back, brainstorm, add a little more.
I had my wife and kids with me play testing every 30 minutes.
somber hazel
menus are overrated btw 😅
just jump directly into the game 😛
tepid flower
Kids had the landscape tools open, sculpting and painting.
obtuse imp
Interesting, I also had family playtest it lol
static trellis
My PC is way better on version 4.24, it did not lag since I started. In the 4.25, my PC was frozen every 1 hour
tepid flower
We started with the marketplace open looking at the free content for the month and brainstorming ways to use it in the entry.
obtuse imp
True , Never a bad thing to be prepared @tepid flower
somber hazel
my intellisense was slow on 4.25, went back to 4.24
tepid flower
What's intellisense? 🙂
static trellis
Also, most of the tutorials I see are on 4.24 so easier.
tepid flower
The contest has a 30 day free eval for Whole Tomato. I've used it in the past, didn't partake this time.
somber hazel
I used tomato in the past, but intelli has everything I need
tepid flower
I used Tom Looman's Udemy multiplayer tutorial heavily as a guide for working with the C++ API
static trellis
I am happy. My game is not even 1 GB so that is lovely
somber hazel
got like 7x 2k textures that steal like 20mb, might go down to 1k
crude ether
I've got bugs on 4.24 which caused landscapes to build 90 000 shaders so I switched to 4.25 where its okay
void hull
@dawn lily You cant see the youtube link because I probably posted the wrong link here. This is the link: https://itch.io/jam/2020-unreal-spring-jam/rate/666455
I hope you can see it here, otherwise, I did something wrong im my submission
tepid flower
Looks great!
dawn lily
yeah it's there now don't worry
crude ether
angry snowmans are funny
void hull
Ah, thanks. The submission process is one of the weirdest parts with jams... making sure you got everything right, getting everything right...
minor hemlock
I was wondering how jam games got so many youtube lets plays
that blessed horror tag 🤣
sonic echo
@void hull nice game based on the current situation
void hull
@sonic echo thanks. the inspiration is all over the news right now
sonic echo
no doubt
void hull
some team members were not sure about the political side of it, but why not? lets do something with games, if we can. at least I think so
distant ibex
or keep games fun.
void hull
@distant ibex or (hopefully) both
sonic echo
ah a team project?
void hull
yes, 4 people.
sonic echo
ah cool, i'm doing this solo.
sonic echo
yeah right now I'm pretty much done with my game I just need to add sound effects and a begining and ending menu.. Debating on using audio assets
somber hazel
72mb windows 32, no prereq., textures at 512 take like 0.2mb (41mb zipped)
pretty neat 👌
sonic echo
gotta remember no issue using sound assets for the game, as long as you credit the asset where you got the sound files
wintry vine
Are we allowed to use content from the sample projects?
civic dock
@somber hazel Nice! That's pretty tiny.
@wintry vine Yes, but you need to list which ones you used in the submission form.
static trellis
Wow, I am surprised of myself. I did not use any bridge assets and the only thing that I used is Mixer to create textures
I will be finishing tomorrow
rocky raven
spooky
warm bloom
😿
dawn lily
4MBs of greatness
civic dock
@warm bloom So clooose.
rocky raven
rocky raven
snow everywhere 😦
civic dock
Damn snow. Now you're trapped with Samara.
rocky raven
civic dock
Meanwhile, I'm alone in a national park at night.
rocky raven
as long as you have a jacket you'll be fine
civic dock
You better believe it. ❄️
Really happy with how the aesthetic is turning out for mine.
I went for the 90s-esque pixelated 3D look. So good for horror.
civic dock
Exactly what I'm going for.
The main reason I love pixelated 3D for horror: if you see motion in the distance, you can't quite tell what it is.
Oof. I want a CPU with more cores. 4-core really blows for compiling shaders, especially on such a tight deadline.
rocky raven
oh boi, pretty tense
civic dock
I guess this is why people have build machines: so they can keep working while builds are packaging. 😅
sonic echo
Snow
feral wind
is anyones Unreal 4.25 crashing at the beginning of the packaging stage?
glass fossil
That's what happened to me.
Except was not the beginning, it was more so in the middle.
ancient delta
melting some glaciers xD
warm bloom
did you grab the hotfix/ what them logs say?
I'm absolutely losing my mind over here.
sonic echo
About to submit my game for the Jam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wlbi7QAfMkg
cedar spindle
@sonic echo Neat!
feral wind
@glass fossil I'm going to try and rewrite the BPs for the Ai I had going on in 4.25, but in a new project in 4.24, and cut the scope by 30%. so no UI art for this one 😄
fallen smelt
anybody know a good screen recorder? I cant seem to get windows game mode working on my laptop
lean bear
fallen smelt
@lean bear thanks!
sonic echo
OBS
small fern
I just use geforce experience since it's there :p
rocky raven
hardy rune
finished the title menu
sonic echo
Looks like my game is a 112mb, wondering what else I can do to shrink the game
tepid flower
Looks like I'm at 2GB I also need to shrink things
I guess I need to trim out any unused assets from the game
1.4GB compressed
distant ibex
@tepid flower There are a couple of check boxes in the Project Properties that help only put things in that are in the levels
tepid flower
I see development build options
Maybe shipping build is smaller?
I'll turn off the pak file so I can remove unused assets
distant ibex
tepid flower
Yeah it's included maps that I didn't use
rocky raven
things getting a bit more creepier https://streamable.com/dz8ble
sonic echo
Well my game has been submitted with 21hrs to spare, so after I sleep I can use the remaining time checking for falts to fix and heck maybe see if I can make my small game hit that 100mb
tepid flower
That worked well down to 400MB, compressed 263MB
cedar spindle
What is sleep?? ☕ 👀 ☕
tepid flower
The Butler tool is ugh
Need a tutorial just to upload
Profile->Upload new project, that's probably it
sonic echo
wonder, I just used my full name as my Team name, hope thats alright
dawn lily
@sonic echo , yes it is
sonic echo
thats good, game was solo made by me, so just use my full name
tulip viper
love the texture portion of the job!
tepid flower
Hmmm where do you add a game image to the submission?
There it is cover image
I think I'm done
We can submit updates until the end, so maybe there's time for some sound effects.
hardy rune
is it fair to compete in under100mb with two different version sizes?
I just saw x32 and x64 builds are different in size
somber hazel
as long as the under 100mb version is working, I can't find any argument why it would be unfair 🙂
feral wind
producing all the BPs from a 4.25 to a 4.24 project 😄
verbal tapir
The office can get a bit messy
dawn lily
same here
tulip viper
trying to find a good angle for my main menu
i cant make up my mind, if closer is better
two new people
and two old ;P
so bit of both
yourself?
tulip viper
hehe thanks 😛
i like him
i cant think of a name for the project though lol
LumberJoe's Tale
i dont fucking know.. lol
oh well
i cant waste time on that
some random freaking name will have to do
nova oak
How many times a year does Epic hold #UnrealJam ?
maiden loom
4, normally
somber hazel
but it's also 2020, so...
hoary trout
with my extremely horrible internet connection
is it possible to do a submissionnow then update it later ?
hardy rune
yay, fixed my cooler and cut around half of the project to make it fit the due time
let's see if it makes into time
sonic echo
man I'm like 15-12mb from being under 100mb
wondering what else I can do get my game to 100mb
mental obsidian
or, if you don't need baked lighting you can just set the lights to Movable to get rid of the message
rugged plaza
Juuuuuust finally got my game loop finished. 🙄
Now I have to spend the rest of the day optimizing it down from 730 MB lol
Hopefully knock 300-500 off 😬
civic dock
I'm stuck with a 1.2GB project because of the tree pack I used. At least I can reduce the size of the pack in the actual packaged game. 😬
In theory I could export all the textures, reduce their resolution, and reimport them. But would that take longer than just committing them to my repo? Hm... 🤔
rugged plaza
I am busting textures down to nothing lol. I am toon cell shading so I don't need even 1k really
civic dock
I only need 1K at best, but I discovered after the fact that the tree pack I'm using has 4K and even 8K textures.
somber hazel
I just realized... I need 4.25 screen shake component 😮
civic dock
There's an 8K tree bark normal map that's 190MB by itself.
@somber hazel Yeah, it's a cool new feature!
You can do procedural screen shake based on distance from player using that.
somber hazel
wait what?! 😄 8k normal map is 190mb? lemme grab my calculator
civic dock
Yeah they're huge. lol
OK, screw it. I just did a test and it's quite easy to export the TGA from Unreal, open in Affinity Designer, reduce res, and re-export.
Yeahhhh I'm taking the time to do this. By reducing it to 1K, it's gone from 190 MB to 3 MB. 😂
It'll be worth the 10 minutes.
civic dock
@glass fossil That only reduces their memory use in game, not the size of the asset in the project.
I need both. 🙂
static trellis
I think I will not win.
somber hazel
itch.io has some weird algorithms, I just posted the cover image for the first time and the entry went 4 ranks up in poplularity
civic dock
@glass fossil You're right, it does affect packaged project size because a lower resolution texture is being cooked. But I want the .uasset in my project to be smaller, too.
😄
Hm, I might even delete the imposters for these trees since I'll never see them from a great distance.
turbid timber
So 12h remaining now right?
civic dock
What happened?