@loud basalt around that time, depends on when i wake up
#game-jam-chat
gaunt copper
boreal umbra
really bad of itch io with that bad form
loud basalt
Yeah just offering a link with some time zone conversions ๐
copper carbon
If you had the button issue AND your game was published before the deadline, please message us.
loud basalt
Since I had no idea what 8pm CET was
solid abyss
its 10:30 am .. here.. I pulled a all-nighter.. nothing I can do about it that my game could get submitted .. Amanda is right
pine fulcrum
Did yโall wait till the last minute >:U
somber hazel
but if my soundman realizes that I swapped out a music file he will cancel our friendship ๐ฆ
gusty marlin
nah our build decided to freeze repetitively for no reason and take 12 hours
carmine kindle
They were all going for the closest submission time to the cut off 
solid abyss
I'm okay with it .. I'm happy that me and my team gave their best
wooden bramble
Last day is submission day. Spent like 8 hours testing and submitting making sure it's good. Its literally the most important part of the jam :p
pine fulcrum
12 hour build :o
gusty marlin
4 hour builds twice
pine fulcrum
I woulda stopped that 1 hour in lol
gusty marlin
and then an bunch of short ones
pine fulcrum
Why your builds taking so long
limber bear
@copper carbon I am guessing you would want the same information from the jam submisison page listed in the email?
loud basalt
@carmine kindle Re-uploading your game is the way to do that ๐ฏ
wooden bramble
Slow PC maybe?
gusty marlin
I have no idea - it went back to normal after
indigo bobcat
reading through this is why they say make a build early and update it
gusty marlin
I tried quitting and fixing etc
pine fulcrum
Always upload early ahhhh
tardy quartz
I just saw my project submission page.
"submitted 5 minutes before the the deadline"
is shook
loud basalt
My build takes about 15 minutes for full rebuild ๐ค
wind cobalt
can i run a game jam of late entries?
gusty marlin
Did not realize you could update it
indigo bobcat
oh im not directing that at anyone
wind cobalt
criteria, must have been in work past 12am today.
gusty marlin
please do lol
indigo bobcat
it always sucks to just miss the deadline
tardy quartz
I was this close to missing it my gosh
wind cobalt
yea deadline is: not yesterday
wet parcel
deadline: next 5 minutes
tardy quartz
@gusty marlin Did you make it?
pine fulcrum
Thatโs the game jam theme
wooden bramble
450+ submissions is more.l than double last year
tardy quartz
Oh shoot...
indigo bobcat
that sucks yeah uploading and stuff can take a bit sometimes and just push people over
tardy quartz
Mine actually did make it, but it was about that close
wooden bramble
How many did multiplayer ๐
gusty marlin
๐ ๐ข
solid abyss
now I have to ask though .. what was the thing about space cats.. that made so many people make a game about space cats ?
tardy quartz
Man I feel for ya
pine fulcrum
SPACE CATS
gusty marlin
Been trying to get one in so many years was sooooo close
carmine kindle
special CATegory
civic dock
solid abyss
I mean .. I don't even see the point ๐
wooden bramble
Cats in space
somber hazel
I remember #allar2016 playing some entries that were about an hour late, what a mad lad
sonic echo
man I was playing my game for recording and I spotted one mesh missing its texture so it has the defualt texture... ooops
solid abyss
ah ..!
minor hemlock
You could call the late game jam game jam the Epic Metajam
gusty marlin
we had a bug where the main menu would send us to a frozen char as well
civic dock
The Epic MegaLateJam.
pine fulcrum
What is the button issue
carmine kindle
@solid abyss How far did you guys get with your game?
wet parcel
they released the actual theme an hour late. Kept joking that the theme was space cats during the jam.
indigo bobcat
i remember one of the last jams someone started their upload like 10 minutes before the end and got upset when their like 2gb+ project was still uploading so they missed the deadline
gusty marlin
Mood - I want to be able to load it up as related to the megajam lol
tardy quartz
@gusty marlin Oh man I remember dealing with a bug like that for an old project I did. It was a mobile game in unity though.
solid abyss
@carmine kindle .. we were off by few hours..
everything was in .. UI need implementation .. packaging
wooden bramble
The button on the submission page was like 3 px wide
uncut mortar
Work in 3 hours yay and I didn't sleep last night ๐ฆ
indigo bobcat
@pine fulcrum submit button was just a red box
wooden bramble
I missed it for about 3 hours today
oblique cairn
@pine fulcrum button issue on itch? submit button was a small red box with no text
tardy quartz
@solid abyss Oh shoot you missed it too?
solid abyss
yeah
tardy quartz
Geez
pine fulcrum
Lol
sonic echo
every other mesh including the same models have a texture, just one mesh got missed and left with the Default Texture, hope that won't be a huge issue
knotty frost
454!
uncut mortar
I missed that red button, filled out the form 3 times before realising...
minor hemlock
@pine fulcrum see pinned
indigo bobcat
i accidently hit it when i was uploading during the live stream today haha hope i had entered all my info
solid abyss
I'm paying for being a total beginner at Unreal..
gusty marlin
Is anyone setting up that late megajam?
wooden bramble
You ain't paying nothing. You learned something hopefully
gusty marlin
Because I want to submit lol
solid abyss
hugs Calwyne
gusty marlin
.... oh, maybe this is why it all slowed down
uncut mortar
I feel similar to having gone for a very big poo.. empty and weightless... that was a very intense week indeed
pine fulcrum
Someone assemble a list of all games that just missed the deadline and pm me it later.... this is not an offer of support
gusty marlin
xD
minor hemlock
You can still upload to itch 
tardy quartz
@solid abyss Honestly man me and my friend are noobs as well. We had done only one project before this in UE4 and it's still under construction. I'm beyond surprised that we were able to make a whole game in six days!
solid abyss
@pine fulcrum .. thanks
tardy quartz
Thats a huge achivement, and if you did that as well thats just as incredible
loud basalt
@gaunt copper You should play the missed submission games at the start of your stream ๐
oblique cairn
@gusty marlin you ran out of disk space?
tardy quartz
Heck everyone here who has done that is amazing to me
solid abyss
yeah .. given our main dev quit just 48 hours ago @tardy quartz
the only dev with proper knowledge of Unreal
gusty marlin
@oblique cairn I believe so yeah - it still built just suuuuper slow
all week it has only been a few seconds to build
gaunt copper
@loud basalt huh? which once?
indigo bobcat
maybe a stream on uploading to twitch for the jam would help people i see alot of people not realize how it works. like for instance having to upload it then submit to the jam
hearty ferry
I tried submitting my uploaded project, looked over the little broken button and only saw the "upload project" button, so hit that thinking that would upload and submit, but all I ended up with is an upload that looks like it was uploaded late so can't email them either... ugh, the "joy" of jams lol
uncut mortar
There are tons of cat projects wow...
minor hemlock
Pfist did that once didn't he
gusty marlin
Someone make the late jam!!!
solid abyss
I will ofcourse finish my game this time.. (unlike the summer jam) .. and post it here soon ๐
oblique cairn
I've had some weird issues on the occasions I've run out of disk space - would expect an error, but perhaps build was waiting for disk space to proceed or something...
tardy quartz
Heck yea! I wanna see all the projects made for this whole deal
gusty marlin
Is it easy to start a jam?
hearty ferry
For whoever wants to try it out, here's the link for my game (gonna add a trailer/screenshots today sometime after sleep):
https://riverthomas.itch.io/catsplore-space-explorer
minor hemlock
Yes
tardy quartz
As tiring as it's been I've not had so much fun in a long time
gusty marlin
Otherwise they end up randomly distributed all over
uncut mortar
gusty marlin
@tardy quartz same! It was great
rocky raven
this was quite fun and intense
gusty marlin
We are complete noobs
solid abyss
@gusty marlin .. yes.. but not easy at all to keep people interested .. unless you are epic games with epic pockets
gusty marlin
soooo much learning
rocky raven
here's what I managed to do for the gamejam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I9faqH-_Tg
civic dock
BioXide representing UnrealPDX! ๐
indigo bobcat
@uncut mortar wow that looks amazing
gusty marlin
@solid abyss no need to get ppl interested - just somehere we can see all the late entries
tardy quartz
@gusty marlin If your still around next year hit me up and we can talk about making a game for Epic Jam 2020
rocky raven
solid abyss
@gusty marlin .. oh this chat is gonna die down soon .. you will see...
indigo bobcat
man next jam i need to join i team i keep making the mistake of doing it solo
gaunt copper
@civic dock oh yea which is your entry?
gusty marlin
@tardy quartz O.O might do!
minor hemlock
Wonder if there's any other Kansas in the jam
solid abyss
there are bunch of all-nighter pullers here.. too awake to go to sleep
tardy quartz
I used to live in kansas
solid abyss
including me ๐
untold narwhal
Good luck to everyone, here is my game:
https://nezosgames.itch.io/overcome-the-death-of-a-loved-one
rocky raven
ive been up for like 24 hours or so
tardy quartz
Moved a few years ago
uncut mortar
@rocky raven Looks like tons of fun gameplay, awesome!
tardy quartz
Are we allowed to post our games here?
solid abyss
yeah
oblique cairn
@tardy quartz please do ๐
gaunt copper
^^'
civic dock
But at least I got to help out some folks.
tardy quartz
Cool
oblique cairn
lots of tempting looking games this year
minor hemlock
Like that one space cat one
civic dock
I'll probably upload a short clip so people can at least see what I was working on.
And I do plan to finish it regardless. ๐
minor hemlock
What was it called? Oh right https://partlyatomic.itch.io/cat-earth-society
oblique cairn
@minor hemlock that game made in UE4 was awesome too ๐
tardy quartz
@civic dock Wait you didn't make it?!
Holy crap out of everyone I thought for sure you would!
minor hemlock
@oblique cairn one jam there was a unity web game lol
tardy quartz
lol
civic dock
@tardy quartz I didn't spend enough time on it. I started late and only worked part-time each day.
But I had fun, and I came up with something I like and plan to finish later.
marble flax
Well that was one heck of a Jam ๐
tardy quartz
This is our game
gusty marlin
Screenshot from ours
copper carbon
@marble flax Yep
minor hemlock
@gusty marlin ah that looks like it could be fun
marble flax
Thanks ๐
compact cedar
why?
tardy quartz
Did anyone here do the 100MB challenge?
loud basalt
Lots of people
vernal stratus
I did the 139mb challenge
obsidian smelt
@gusty marlin That looks gorgeous!
gusty marlin
@obsidian smelt ty! ๐
tardy quartz
Agreed!
uncut mortar
@compact cedar Ooops, suppose that was a default?
loud basalt
@uncut mortar Yep
uncut mortar
Fixed
tardy quartz
We did the 1 gig challenge lol
knotty frost
obsidian smelt
gosh darnit, sign me up for any game where you play as an animal in a pretty world
civic dock
@compact cedar Free with optional donations is the default setting, so you'll probably see that a lot.
marble flax
Its just a suggested donation amount. and not necessary to download.
pine fulcrum
Ahhhhh
loud basalt
For new jammers I really recommend watching a streamer play your game, its very satisfying ๐
minor hemlock
@vernal stratus you guys got it in??
loud basalt
@pine fulcrum played my first jam game
marble flax
Usually Shadowriver plays them all.
loud basalt
And the stream died in the middle of it ๐
vernal stratus
@minor hemlock yea boi
minor hemlock
@pine fulcrum played my first jam game. And here I am making a game about physics powered elevators again.
pine fulcrum
I have never offered production quality
tardy quartz
I don't suppose someone could throw some links to streamers here?
vernal stratus
hoping to get another version in because we found a bug thats pretty gross
its slimey
loud basalt
@pine fulcrum You say that, but your vive has googley eyes
mental elk
https://youtu.be/98wMmToCGqc My game that nobody will play cause the wrong file was uploaded ๐
minor hemlock
But his avatar nods. That's how you know it's truth
pine fulcrum
Iโll probably be streaming at 10am PST a small bunch of games
minor hemlock
So early
minor hemlock
I'll wake up Monday thx
marble flax
My first VR game is a Oculus Quest game. Not many of those so far ๐
compact cedar
@civic dock i know, but...
pine fulcrum
Shadowriver does it all tho sooo
fallow lion
oh boy, have to work in couple hours, it is going to be a loooong day ๐
civic dock
@fallow lion ๐
tardy quartz
Twitch or youtube?
loud basalt
@pine fulcrum Where do I get the invite to your exclusive VIP stream
obsidian smelt
Here's my submission. After playing god of war a few months ago, I've been a little enthralled by it. The jam inspired me to make this (took the theme as a valkyrie being sent down to earth). I finished the game loop 4 hours before submitting haha. I wanted a boss fight, but this'll have to do.
https://cuddlebadger.itch.io/song-of-the-valkyries
pine fulcrum
If I had enough people to warrant a vip stream lol
solid abyss
@pine fulcrum .. please post a spreadsheet like last time.. that you updated with live score, again this time. And also, a way to vote for games?
marble flax
I feel sorry for Amanda and Victor. They can't sleep for weeks now... LOL
pine fulcrum
Although I got my first twitch payout
civic dock
That VIP stream is for me. No one else can come.
pine fulcrum
Yeah Iโm not doing anything that requires work
tardy quartz
@obsidian smelt Good job getting it done my man!
loud basalt
@civic dock Sending strange photos to each other on snapchat doesn't count
untold narwhal
When are the finalists announced?
civic dock
I used Snapchat once a few years ago. That was the end of that.
carmine kindle
@gusty marlin Did you host that?
obsidian smelt
goodnight, sweet people! Congrats on getting through the jam, even if the submission didn't go so well. Share your work anyway, it's still awesome.
gusty marlin
@carmine kindle yeah
loud basalt
I tried to install it once and it wouldn't let me because my phone had a custom ROM and ditto
pine fulcrum
Someone do the math
civic dock
@untold narwhal December 12. ๐
obsidian smelt
@tardy quartz Thanks! I haven't slept so I'm gonna go crash hahaha cheers
marble flax
@obsidian smelt agreed!
minor hemlock
8 hours
tardy quartz
Have fun sleeping lol
pine fulcrum
Oh thatโs not bad lol
tardy quartz
I'm gonna be up a while
compact cedar
This jam...bring us so many CAT games...as no one seen in last few years.
untold narwhal
@civic dock ty๐
wind cobalt
5 minutes per game seems short
loud basalt
38 hours..
marble flax
Meow. ๐
pine fulcrum
38 hours at 5 mins each?
tardy quartz
Ouch
minor hemlock
Oh right. 8 hours at 1 minute
loud basalt
5 minutes * 455 entries = 2275 = 37.9 hours
pine fulcrum
Lmao
minor hemlock
480/60 but I forgot *5
frail palm
I did it. I submitted a game on time!
loud basalt
Oh 457 entries now
pine fulcrum
I could speed run it maybe but I donโt think people would enjoy that
vernal stratus
now its 38hrs not 37.9
frail palm
compact cedar
@frail palm which one? i see
marble flax
I wish I had 4 more hours. I had 1 more map almost finished before the clock hit 0. ๐ฆ
ancient delta
hey @pine fulcrum :D
tulip viper
EPIC MEGAJAM 2019 - (THE AFTERMATH) RIUTHAMUS | THE STORY OF HOW 7 DAYS GOT WASTED.... MAYBE..... #gamedev #gameart #indiedev #ue4 #unrealengine #unrealjam #ue4jam https://twitch.tv/riuthamus
frail palm
there are but in the game.
minor hemlock
Why is calculator such a bright app. My eyes
west wing
I wanted to put Enjoyker's Space Cats into the ending. Too bad it's copyrighted.
pine fulcrum
Yay
civic dock
I know the feeling @marble flax! I had a lot more work to do though so... need a little more than 4 hours. ๐
marble flax
Another day would be good too..
pine fulcrum
Is there a way to programmatically download every game
minor hemlock
I put a month of work into this past week
tardy quartz
There was a lot of stuff I wanted to add to our game
But time constraints meant I couldn't
minor hemlock
No more. Hopefully rdr2 is less of a steaming bug fire now that I can get around to it
gusty marlin
marble flax
@pine fulcrum here here.. Would be nice.
gusty marlin
Dunno if I should share this or what
vernal stratus
@minor hemlock gonna add me on rockstar?
minor hemlock
No
vernal stratus
ouch
oblique cairn
๐
tardy quartz
In the first few builds our game had a lock-on function for the camera
minor hemlock
Not gonna pretend to use their services
tardy quartz
It would follow the enemies.
ancient delta
\o/ spaaace
minor hemlock
Is that 4.24?
tardy quartz
We ended up having to remove it when we completely redid the AI halfway into the jam
Oh man I couldn't tell you how many changes we had to make to AI throughout the jam
minor hemlock
Ai in jam is ouch
marble flax
The last Jam. I basically started a 2nd project half way through, since my first idea didn't work.
tardy quartz
Yea I get that feeling
marble flax
Who put their AI in my Jam.. Who put their Jam in my AI?
tardy quartz
At the start the game was more of a scifi styled game
lol
Doing the AI was not fun I can tell you that much
There are so so so so so many things to add
marble flax
I would love to sleep, but adrenaline!
oblique cairn
well, I'm off to bed
gusty marlin
adrenaline!
tardy quartz
Once you finish one part you realize that there are two more features you need
oblique cairn
GN and GJ all!
minor hemlock
@pine fulcrum I feel like I saw itch introduce something recently that'd help with the process
marble flax
I don't know if anyone else had this problem, but the submit button on the itch.io page was a tiny red square.
tardy quartz
Yea apparently it happened to a lot of people
pine fulcrum
Use that adrenaline to stream yourself playing someone elseโs game ahhhh
tardy quartz
I few projects missed the deadline because of it
marble flax
I think I will just sit here drink some beers and listen to everyone coming off the Jam High!
tardy quartz
It's so strange
untold narwhal
@marble flax it happened to me, I had to see the html code to verify that it was the shipping button.
gusty marlin
it is not fun
minor hemlock
Mood of final day jamming: https://techcrunch.com/2019/11/21/tesla-accidentally-busted-two-windows-on-the-cybertruck-while-demonstrating-how-tough-they-are/
civic dock
๐ฎ
indigo bobcat
that was so cringe watching
marble flax
LOL
indigo bobcat
he then gave a talk on how strong they were
tardy quartz
lol yea thats how I feel lol
wind cobalt
lol @glad geyser
minor hemlock
Looks like Elon is going for the 100mb build with low poly models like that
indigo bobcat
his theme was N64
wind cobalt
when did they start making warthogs?
loud basalt
@tardy quartz I told my client I'd do a job for them on Monday and it feels too soon now that the jam ended ๐ (also its friday evening here)
hexed dagger
RIP my team's project, git had merge conflicts and they took us an hour to fix so we lost out. Learned alot thou so thats cool
minor hemlock
I had the foresight to tell people I wasn't available until mid December lol
tardy quartz
Ahh good ol git
loud basalt
I sit at the computer and type then I take their money
marble flax
@hexed dagger Always save the full last day for submission problems.
hidden flicker
hopefully we can sleep now
the ideas just all seem to pop when its like 2:43 am
lets make the levels procedurally generated!
tulip viper
I say, come tell me that, to my face!! said the cat
tardy quartz
I had planned on starting the upload at 7:00PM
tulip viper
marble flax
LOL
hexed dagger
@marble flax yeah we planned to do the final build 2 hours before the dealine but lost out. Build a cool game thou
hidden flicker
thats a neat looking space catr
tardy quartz
I actually started it at 8:00
loud basalt
@minor hemlock After leaving my job I realized how much I hate steady work, upped my hourly rate a lot and it did a good job of cutting down the work hours
Can't really do it if I'm not crashing at my sister's though, rent in NZ is astronomical
marble flax
I started my final build at 8AM. Didn't get it up till about 2PM.
loud basalt
6pm friday
marble flax
LOL. Thats a good question.
loud basalt
Good time for it to end actually
compact cedar
it's 9am here
loud basalt
Usually my time zone makes things painful
marble flax
How many hours has it been. Or do I still have time to submit.. LOL
tardy quartz
For me it's midnight
loud basalt
It ended
marble flax
I think it's midnight for me too.. EST.
copper carbon
Alright - good night everyone! Again, great effort. Hope you all had fun and now we've got a few games to play ๐
marble flax
LOL. Have fun playing them...
compact cedar
few games to play
tardy quartz
Cause no way am I gonna download them all
hearty ferry
When it's 7am and I realize I hadn't taken Friday off of work
Guess it's gonna be a long sleepy day at the office, but the jam was a lot of fun, definitely worth it
marble flax
Every Jam I do I have a lot of fun and I always learn something new.
gusty marlin
@loud basalt also in NZ?
hexed dagger
@civic dock Also making something cool.
civic dock
Of course! Making something unique and fresh is a great challenge.
And it's a good opportunity to get out of your comfort zone, too.
Try something you wouldn't do on a more important project.
compact cedar
i've learned that ue4 has many more bugs i've never imagined before
loud basalt
@gusty marlin Yessir, just moved from welly back to auck
tardy quartz
Thats always a good sign!
gusty marlin
xD
the speed and boosts baked out really broken though lol
I would NOT have made it in either way - it came out at 5GB
So I feel less sad lol
(Had not figured out that Butler stuff)
copper carbon
@gusty marlin - We can always add your game to the page if you'd like your game to be surfaced as part of the jam. You would be ineligible for prizes and such, however.
gusty marlin
@copper carbon That would be awesome!!!!
tardy quartz
According to the discription the only third party assets in this game are the sound
Thats really impressive!
rocky raven
time to sleep 
sonic echo
https://olinkalex.itch.io/outside Epic Mega Jam is complete
near cairn
Hey guys I have uploaded my game before the deadline but forgot to add screenshots can I add them now ? In the jam page ?
somber hazel
yes, I just did
hidden flicker
just not the build
tardy quartz
@sonic echo I will give it a shot!
Whoever made this one, it looks really interesting
tulip viper
https://riuthamus.itch.io/catstrike updated the page with art, in case anybody cares to actually try it out LMAO
carmine kindle
The character models look real nice. ๐
gaunt copper
@tardy quartz https://www.twitch.tv/shadowriver
loud basalt
@pine fulcrum @gaunt copper Trying some games from the jam and noticed the download speed is ~3-5mb/s, may pay to pre-download if streaming
carmine kindle
Download speeds seem fine for me.
carmine kindle
Yes, mine 
fringe furnace
๐
ornate prawn
gaunt copper
@loud basalt seems fine to me
carmine kindle
@fringe furnace Seems like some nice old fashioned arcadey alien shooty fun ๐ ๐ฝ
loud basalt
So many people didn't disable VR plugins
They really shouldn't be enabled by default..
compact cedar
@loud basalt 4.24 fixed that
carmine kindle
Might as well let steamvr run in the background the whole time you're trying out games ๐
loud basalt
Oh good
tulip viper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owbJokXvkYc&feature=youtu.be video of the actual game since you cant play it ๐ฆ welcome any thoughts of it or suggestions to make it better
loud basalt
@tulip viper Actually looks really good for a jam game ๐
tulip viper
@loud basalt thanks
compact cedar
@tulip viper upload it to some repo (like gdrive) and link in the comments
tulip viper
im fixing the bullshit main menu bug, then i will ๐
@compact cedar
@loud basalt was a gameplay run through, too late in the night + work in the AM + being up for 48HR +s.... no time for a proper trailer. Great suggestion though
loud basalt
Cool game located: https://itch.io/jam/2019-epic-megajam/rate/517788
loud basalt
@minor hemlock This one looks terribl...y awesome https://itch.io/jam/2019-epic-megajam/rate/517551
The little ship is cool as
proven geyser
Ah, the Gamejam is over and there is so many cool games out now.
Here is the one my Team worked one.
I really like how it turned out ! ๐ฅฐ
https://kggx.itch.io/kami-catse
(Although there is bad bug where when playing it for the second time, it messes with your start location, sadly.)
loud basalt
Another awesome game sighted https://itch.io/jam/2019-epic-megajam/rate/520867
buoyant delta
ornate prawn
This game is my favourite https://itch.io/jam/2019-epic-megajam/rate/517551
small fern
how did the itch json api work?
like it would be really handy for scraping the entry data for people who make the playthroughs
hmmmm, the json api I found is more about getting data out of your own games
so that's not usable for getting the jam entries
wonder if I still have my old html scraper for itch saved somewhere
I quickly did it last time Allar streamed all entries through
but it was more tricky back then as they didn't lock the entries and things could change etc
carmine kindle
You can get the entries if you know the jam ID, not sure how you can find that out though.
There's two examples if you scroll down on this page a bit. https://itch.io/blog/105823/return-of-the-itchio-changelog-markdown-sub-prducts-jam-updates-more
carmine kindle
And the ID is 11973
small fern
heh, faster than me
was just going through the html source for id keyword (it's there)
so
carmine kindle
Yeah, that's what I did
wind aspen
Hey @small fern.. howd you go?
small fern
ah, I didn't really even start
spent two days thinking of the theme and I only got one decent idea and it wasn't really something I wanted to do
wind aspen
Oh ๐
small fern
my original idea was to make a digger spinoff where you'd have some garden where you could play asymmetric multiplayer
other side would have been a mole inside ground and other side would have been gardener
wind aspen
Sounds similar to something i did
small fern
who ever got the most harvest would have won
but I can't rig living creatures well, and it's not the type of art I'd normally do so would have needed to stretch a lot :p
wind aspen
Was there only 462 submissions?
wind aspen
Wasn't there 2000 something joined up?
small fern
people, not teams?
wind aspen
Ah o k
small fern
also everyone doesn't finish
wind aspen
That @#$& little red submit button without text almost had me not getting mine submitted
rugged plaza
Some submissions never posted a game file
wind aspen
It looked like just an colored square
rugged plaza
Yeah it took me a minute to find it
carmine kindle
I never understand how some games get so much attention so fast. Sure the game is cool and all, but to have 10 youtube videos of gameplay posted in the comments before the jam has even ended? What the heck?
small fern
I'd guess the devs promoted the entry to get more attention?
(nothing wrong about it)
maiden loom
Friends, also a possibility
small fern
anyone remember which was the previous game jam Allar streamed?
I'm mainly trying to find the spreadsheet I hacked for it so I don't have to figure out proper format again if I parse these json files for people who stream these
small fern
hmmm, it was probably this one https://itch.io/jam/2018-summer-ue4jam
and yeah, it was, found the thread and spreadsheet
too bad you can't get the modifier catergories out of the json
near cairn
@feral wind it truly was ๐
The overcome the death of a loved one was a really cool looking game but sadly my poor brain can't solve them puzzles ๐
A really cool fun game I loved it
cerulean wren
i made that one, but i always feel awkward, impostor syndrome?
i hate to do mediocre games because i dont have enough time and resources
:/
loud basalt
@cerulean wren a common trait in game dev, I don't think anyone isn't doubting their game.. Unless I'm projecting
cerulean wren
thanks @loud basalt ๐
carmine kindle
All of my games are clearly amazing and there's nothing wrong with any of them and there are absolutely no mistakes in any of them, only happy little accidents.
feral wind
the only thing thats good about my game
is that I got a character kind of working ๐
there's definitely holes in my workflow
such as sound
and good level design
I had fun anyway
and the point is, that you had fun making the game
is what matters
wintry osprey
Yep, that is what matters, we had fun too ๐
feral wind
the unreal prize, and the 2nd hand praise from peers is secondary
wintry osprey
I saw that I had a massive improvement in this jam, much different to any other jams. So this was quite interesting.
brave current
You know that feeling when you discover a 100% recurring gamebreaking bug the morning after final submission?
That one ๐ฐ
Well... not "game breaking". More like.. "rules breaking".
The bug allows the player to finish the game in less than 30 seconds 
Ain't that right, @edgy fulcrum ?
cerulean wren
oh yeah, those kind of bugs you can only fix after disconnect from deving
wintry osprey
Wow, unlucky..... We found a bug after we submitted it but we were tired as it was nearly 3AM. Not that big of a bug but it does kinda take away the point of one of the pickups called the "luck charm" --> Gives Points, Gives Lives, Takes away Lives and Kills Player. Last one did not work out so well, does not kill player.
cerulean wren
it happened the same to me, at that time
near cairn
My game just turned out to be another unbeatable tough game
cerulean wren
3am and i was dead
near cairn
People said they can't beat it
๐ ๐
And hence forth I think everyone didn't enjoy the game
I play tested it for hours checking for bugs but I forgot about the difficulty
And the game is almost 20mins long without saving
carmine kindle
It's always a good idea to make the game easier than you think you should for jams.
near cairn
@carmine kindletrue bro ๐ข
cerulean wren
yes, people want to play faster, so many games to play
carmine kindle
Having said that, I have a boss in mine that might be unbeatable without a whole raid group of people ๐
carmine kindle
brave current
This is ours. Still playable if you pretend the bug doesn't exist ;)
https://connecta.itch.io/dapper-dan-and-the-graveyard-smash
near cairn
@carmine kindle it's really a cool game could have more life though ๐ ๐
I loved the doggo
I played offline though
carmine kindle
Well it's an MMO, you need other people to enjoy it properly
I need to organize a raid to take down that boss at some point, maybe when someone is streaming
cerulean wren
what are you using for networking?
brave current
Cheers ๐ @cerulean wren
carmine kindle
I wrote a custom login server that runs alongside the game one and the game is technically just a regular listen server.
cerulean wren
so, unreal networking?
carmine kindle
yeah
cerulean wren
i wonder how do you manage to connect people over the internet, but that sounds smart
maybe not very scalable right now
carmine kindle
I'll be very surprised if I ever get more people on there than default Unreal networking can easily handle ๐
cerulean wren
one never knows ๐
hearty ferry
Question: Could I update my game for non-judging purposes (basically polish some things for my portfolio) or is it not allowed until after the judging period?
brave current
We didn't feel confident enough in our networking-skills :D
So we just went for up to 4 Players Local Coop
cerulean wren
not bad
brave current
I'd also like to know the answer to @hearty ferry question ๐
carmine kindle
You can't change the files you uploaded to your project during the judging period (they're actually locked on itch), but other than that you can do whatever you like.
hearty ferry
Ah itch locks them, that's fine then, means I can't accidentally cheat ๐
brave current
I think I still see some of the projects get updates. Perhaps they end up on separate branches?
carmine kindle
You can change the game page and even your submission info.
gritty beacon
last time, you could still upload new builds for two days for players, but only the build uploaded before the deadline will be judged
carmine kindle
Shows this for me. I suppose you can still delete things. https://i.gyazo.com/417d4ab2cdacf16e7eef58f768a66e09.png
rugged plaza
If I upload anything itll be a new download with NonSubmission in the title
gritty beacon
interesting, guess they locked it right away this time
rugged plaza
Sweet. I think the spring jam they didnt and I wound up disqualifying myself lol
hearty ferry
I accidentally left an unused plugin enabled in my final build pushing build size just over the 100mb, really makes me wish I could've build/uploaded sooner so I'd have cought it in time
I was already wondering how my project had gotten so big without textures and only 2 models...
Still, I couldn't start until last night due to work, so I'm really happy with the result I ended up with, especially since I didn't use any premade assets (kept artstyle simple and generate pretty much everything in the game on the fly at gamelauch)
Cannot wait for the next UE4 jam!
rugged plaza
I managed a win32 at 99.3Mb as a last minute addition to the already low Android build. I was afraid the android wouldn't play on a judges particular device
wintry osprey
Yeah, I won't be doing jams probably next time, this is like my 5th one, and IDK, this was more fun and I felt more confident and actually interested in doing this, However I usually get so stressed during game jams.
Mine is 90MB for Win64
minor hemlock
@carmine kindle I think the real question is how the Raven game got on the curated front page featured list, I'm pretty sure that's where the youtubers picked it up from
brave current
This was my first jam ๐
It was great fun!
But next time I'm probably gonna take out vacation from work so I don't have to stress as much
small fern
looking into this json parsing now
they actually don't order the items in any way here for individual game's fields
so basically I just have to parse first each game's json entry and then search within
title, url, description could be there in any random order ๐
it's no biggie but haven't seen people doing this in ages
considering it's super trivial to just output them in same order
also probably just should use some existing json parser which would take care of all this ๐
pine fulcrum
The fuck lol
Maybe that is the result of many micro services running in parallel and aggregating the result
oblique cairn
@small fern what language are you in? there should be some kinda of parser built into python and JS (even in blueprints - I think you can use VARest ๐ )
gaunt copper
I got everything set up for streaming
goinf to sleep :p and when i wake up after dinner i will start
@oblique cairn actully UE4 got json parser in it's C++ APIs, VaRest just exposes it
theres laso XML parser
i mean it need to read uproject and uplugin files somehow :p
near cairn
So how do you guys approach these game jam ? I usually figure out a narrative with the theme and then create mechanics.
To tell the story in the game
How do you guys make these cool mechanics stuff ?
With only a theme
oblique cairn
@gaunt copper good to know
@near cairn My approach is more
- think of the possible interpertations of the theme
- think of gameplay mechanics that fit the interpertations
- spend half the jam being unsure what to make
- rapidly implement something
paper scaffold
@near cairn My approach looks like this:
- Come up with a game idea that matches the theme
- Start working on it
- With every day realize the scope is way too big
- Start feeling more and more stressed out because there is no time to implement everything you wanted
serene girder
if you're not stressing out during a gamejam, you're not doing jams correctly ๐
paper scaffold
haha ๐
near cairn
@serene girder true ๐
trail trellis
It's such a rollercoaster, especially the last part. Relief for 1-5mins after the jam finishes before you realize that you left debug spheres on or you broke a key level. ๐
oblique cairn
@gaunt copper @pine fulcrum @small fern https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16E5a_jPUGp4NfhD7faY9-YQ9A63GgQVs69Epoyd51Zo/edit?usp=sharing - Tried out using js+gsheets to parse the json
though, didn't see a way to directly download games, may have to do a little scraping for that
rugged plaza
Me too
rugged plaza
@glass fossil I think the idea of the jam is really not to win the jam, but to get your ideas flowing and it really grows you for what you do afterwards
I came up with just a basic game at first but beyond the jam I could take the idea and the ideas I didnt have time for into a releasable game
Or use as features in a different game
minor hemlock
But also the approximate value of first place is like 8k so strong incentive to win :p
zinc junco
you guys need a scraper for this info?
rugged plaza
All I want is a damn swag pack and bragging rights if I ever win lol
serene girder
๐
wet rivet
So I think it'd be really cool to have a shirt from each jam, kind of like the infinity stones
wet rivet
I'm really happy with how much I pushed myself on this jam, I feel like we had a really original idea which I liked
wet rivet
Win jam, make bread, spread jam, enjoy toast
zinc junco
no toaster.
wet rivet
Did anyone else go for the multiplayer special category?
carmine kindle
yup
wet rivet
Right on! Mind linking your games? I wanna check em out
carmine kindle
wet rivet
You made an MMO in a game jam? That's insane and awesome
carmine kindle
I wasn't going to, but then they joked about it in the stream, so I had to
wet rivet
This is all solo as well @carmine kindle ?
carmine kindle
yes
carmine kindle
The best part is being able to stalk people who are playing the game ๐
wet rivet
How do I level up?
carmine kindle
you click on the thing, hit enter to enable cursor
small fern
@oblique cairn what's weird is that your list has 458 entries instead of 462
my own parser counts 450 atm for the json ๐
so there's something obviously going sideways on mine
the missing 4 could just be deleted pages
ah, there is 458 game entries on mine as well, I initially looked at field entries but apparently there's 8 games outside of that....
zinc junco
@small fern I love this game man! great job
compact cedar
um...
small fern
no worries ๐
paper scaffold
@zinc junco Thanks!
zinc junco
gonna play it now
lime crane
lol I gonna play that mmo.
compact cedar
@glass fossil you can finish game as you like...but upload is locked
carmine kindle
can't change anything with your upload until the judging ends
serene girder
that greg and the great evil game looks ok i guess ;P
paper scaffold
@pine fulcrum You can play my game cause you liked the last one I did. Let's see if this one's better ๐
pine fulcrum
i can't search the itch app thats so shit
small fern
@pine fulcrum how many games are you looking to play?
I have no recommendations, just curious
small fern
๐
paper scaffold
@zinc junco You played solo or coop?
small fern
you can't use the itch app to show only megajam entries?
pine fulcrum
i can but there is no way to search for a title
small fern
ah
pine fulcrum
at least search within the jam
zinc junco
@paper scaffold solo
pine fulcrum
i can do a global search
small fern
there's only 458 entries, just look around
small fern
I still wonder what the 4 ghost entries are
small fern
but itch lists were a mess last time around as well
paper scaffold
@zinc junco We wanted to make the first level easy so you can complete it in the first or second try and then gradually increase the difficulty but I guess it didn't turn out that way ๐
pine fulcrum
its not even listed
lime crane
the mmo is cool. impressive.
paper scaffold
@pine fulcrum You gonna be streaming?
zinc junco
@paper scaffold the second level is a lot harder
paper scaffold
Just wait for the 3rd one ๐
minor hemlock
https://partlyatomic.itch.io/cat-earth-society there you go @pine fulcrum
small fern
@pine fulcrum @gaunt copper here's a more parsed and automated list if anyone streams any of these (based on the sheet I made for Allar's 2018 summer ue4 jam playthrough): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hdpj7oJaFMQ4cyDVki9BoD0zorJa1CzMsVgYTFykfGU/
can make a copy or whatever from that
I haven't locked fields that shouldn't be written on this one as I don't know if anyone is going to use it even
basically the idea is to fill the stream sheet with entry number and it should autofill the details
and entries sheet is only to enter base data of the entry (and mirror back possible stream time)
sonic echo
@tardy quartz like stuck on a puzzle or stuck in the world
copper carbon
@small fern Is there a particular ID you need to help make it easier to download?
minor hemlock
that's a good lookin sheet @small fern
small fern
@copper carbon no need, we already found the id from html source ๐
minor hemlock
I appreciate it's in order of popularity
copper carbon
okie!
minor hemlock
makes sure I'll be able to catch my game before getting bored :p
small fern
@minor hemlock LOL
minor hemlock
but also #1 is That Game
small fern
I think the itch just sorts these based on when the first entry was submitted
minor hemlock
we were like 30th to submit
small fern
hmmmm
minor hemlock
the first one just got a lot of popularity for reasons
pine fulcrum
is there any way of querying modifer qualifications
small fern
they are not in the json
pine fulcrum
was there a dataset asking people what people were going for
minor hemlock
I think that's a private field in this submission form
small fern
nor on the itch page
pine fulcrum
does that data exist
small fern
not publicly at least
pine fulcrum
but it does exist
minor hemlock
small fern
if you were asked to submit that on the entry, then yes
pine fulcrum
is that a type in or a check box
small fern
but it's not public data even if was asked
pine fulcrum
I suppose its too late to make that data public @copper carbon ?
small fern
why even have none of the above?
small fern
basically what we get on the jam entries json now are: user id, user name, user url, game id, game title, game url, game cover color, game cover image, game platforms, game short description
I guess it could be nice to parse the platform
but most of these are windows anyway
wintry osprey
Yeah
gusty marlin
We got our late upload functioning anyway ๐ In case anyone is interested https://solinta.itch.io/flit
pine fulcrum
4.1gb
copper carbon
@pine fulcrum - the categories?
small fern
yeah, the modifiers @copper carbon
gusty marlin
We are super noobs unfortunately so it is super simple and with not a ton of understanding
small fern
@copper carbon basically they are submitted to Epic by the form but that doesn't appear to be public data
also I'm sure there's also data you wouldn't want to expose to all
I see someone put tags for modifiers on the entry but in general, players won't know which were meant to be the targets
like, we can figure out most by case basis of course
but it's 458 entries to figure out and you need to unzip to see if it's under 100mb etc
tardy quartz
@sonic echo I got stuck behind two objects and couldn't move
I was looking for a cable for the box when I got stuck
tardy quartz
I saw a lot of games come really close to the 100 MB mark
Not so many actually did it though
small fern
I bet many did
pine fulcrum
I think 3/5 that I downloaded came in archived under 100mb
small fern
here's a list for summer 2018 jam: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xIrRBA3yoRmxdk4R_JXggOxHvPTSj3I2mzuP0t5M2L4/edit#gid=814092398
look at the army of one
it's super popular
small fern
yeah
minor hemlock
yeah!
small fern
I made that template for it back then
minor hemlock
that was muh first jam
can army of one be renamed "I hate working with people" category ๐
small fern
"Lone Wolf"
wooden bramble
rip i thought most people worked on teams lol
small fern
^
wooden bramble
My game estimates for 7 mins ... 
minor hemlock
mine is probably 15
wooden bramble
But it's fine you also gotta setup a dedi server, and get people to connect zzzz
minor hemlock
I don't know I haven't played it start to end >_>
pine fulcrum
for sure thou epic can only afford 5 minutes
minor hemlock
does every judge play every game?
small fern
current streaming status:
minor hemlock
or is there some sort of tournament bracket setup
wooden bramble
I'm sure its a company helped volunteer thing
pine fulcrum
its really a giant rock paper scissors conundrum
small fern
458 is crazy
it's over twice what we had on 2018 megajam
or did people remove the entries and the number went down?
I just checked the old 2018 megajam itch page and it said 202 or something like that
copper carbon
The last record was 2017's MegaJam with ~280
minor hemlock
everyone is tired of paying for GDC
wooden bramble
My chair is fucked. But really i just want a tshirt
small fern
I still have no UE4 swag :/
minor hemlock
I've seen some of the swag, I wouldn't mind that keyboards shortcut pad thing
tardy quartz
Honestly I don't know if I could even go to GDC if I won
small fern
I still have to keep wearing my Unity swag
pine fulcrum
the chances of me taking selfies and other social media imagery go up dramatically if I'm sent a UE4 branded chair with my name custom on it somehow
I'm just throwing this thought out into the world
small fern
๐
minor hemlock
I'm on my 3rd folding chair
wooden bramble
you might need one more than me
minor hemlock
trade you?
minor hemlock
I'm keeping my Purple butt cushion though
pine fulcrum
im on this shitty chair that started out alright
but thats how office depot do now
oooh I should sit on my purple pillow
but then my pillow would be ass
hmm
I should buy a second purple pillow
minor hemlock
no, they make cushions specifically for sitting
pine fulcrum
or that
wooden bramble
it's a brand called purple
wooden bramble
I thought you went to wallmart and got a purple pillow...
pine fulcrum
oh my god how have I never sat on my pillow
minor hemlock
@pine fulcrum uhoh. now you're compelled to treat the seat
tardy quartz
I'm sitting in a fifteen year old dining chair right now
minor hemlock
I'm using the Royal cushion and it is A+ ๐ฏ
minor hemlock
it turns my $30 folding chair into a $90 folding chair
wooden bramble
For someone who does not have an ass... Maybe that would be nice
instead of sitting on bone
tardy quartz
I just sit on my feet
small fern
there's 5 mac only games
pine fulcrum
time to install osx
wooden bramble
6k to play a game jam game, gotta know your audience
minor hemlock
I wish there was a way to explain how great the Purple stuff feels but there isn't ๐ it's just magic jelly that doesn't feel like jelly
small fern
two games have linux builds
pine fulcrum
i just bought the Ultimate Seat Cushion
small fern
which is surprising
minor hemlock
going big booty bro
small fern
but these have also windows builds
pine fulcrum
I got my first twitch payment of $100 so
small fern
one has win + mac + linux
pine fulcrum
twitch bought me this cushion
wooden bramble
"The Purple Harmony Pillow"?
minor hemlock
it is twitch colors
pine fulcrum
sponsorship possibilities
minor hemlock
I'm tempted by that pillow tbh, the old one is great ๐
pine fulcrum
twitch, if you're streaming 8 hours a day buy the twitch cushion
minor hemlock
just wish it was a bit thicker without using the airbags
wooden bramble
like a sand pillow?
pine fulcrum
its a silicone pillow
thats mostly air
its like ghetto aerogel
its like that deadly laser beam in resident evil that chops that guy into pieces
except comfortable
minor hemlock
not sand, it doesn't deform permanently
pine fulcrum
its also a brick
minor hemlock
^ comes with a warning to not have pillow fights with it
pine fulcrum
like you could probably use it as a stand in for a cinder block
minor hemlock
like 10 pounds ๐คฃ
pine fulcrum
if you roll it
small fern
hmmmm, now there's two additional entries?
wooden bramble
But you could heat in the mircowave and have a heated seat
small fern
I thought the jam page was locked?
pine fulcrum
oh shit
small fern
this craps the lists tho
pine fulcrum
itch is simultaneously killing it and being really stupid
small fern
because new list isn't in the same order ๐
I already filled the nonWindows platform notes
basically all modifier marks would need to be redone one by one if list updates again (altho they are not filled in yet)
heh, according to my parser, there's now 459 entries instead of 458
minor hemlock
that post is from 2014 ๐
small fern
would need to store the already added entries to prevent duplicates
minor hemlock
how are you scraping??
small fern
from the json they give
small fern
but yeah, the missing entry is actually that Flit: Down to Earth that was just submitted
at least you can see last editions on the feed
bleak cairn
I guess it was submitted but not published yet.
acoustic glacier
My entry was added late as some stuff was weird last night and i was to tired to notice
i submitted well on time initially
so thank god for the late entry stuff
copper carbon
Some folks have been added late, to be included as part of the event, but deemed ineligible for scoring/prizes.
small fern
@minor hemlock https://itch.io/jam/11973/entries.json
minor hemlock
@copper carbon that's awesome ๐ I know some people last night were frustrated that their efforts wouldn't get grouped together if they didn't get it in the jam
excuse me?
bleak cairn
uhmmm
oblique cairn
coolness is really measuring temprature - so 0 is great!
minor hemlock
@small fern sorry not sorry if my emoji broke your parser ;P
small fern
lol
they are actually wrong on the json itself
I should filter then manually
or well "wrong"
minor hemlock
(โฏโตโกโฒ)โฏ๏ธตโปโโป
bleak cairn
I feel so bad atm... I had 2 people play my game now for over 1 hour and they noticed about three really nasty bugs. I'm just not happy with the situation.
rigid fog
@bleak cairn Don't be like that
You accomplished something that a lot of folks couldn't
I didn't even get to submit! (or even start)
bleak cairn
yeah but it just feels bad man xD
rigid fog
Be proud of what you accomplished
Which honestly is a lot!
Trust me man...I guarantee you...there are crappier submissions than yours that are much more buggy
Been doing these jams for years, was streaming the playthroughs for a little bit. I know some things ๐
This was actually the first MegaJam I missed out on since it started. Now talk about some disappointment. (of course, I did have some valid excuses, so not that disappointed I guess ๐ )
bleak cairn
oh... It was my first one of the MegaJams
wooden bramble
I screwed up the balance of my game. so i made 3 difficulties 1 i knew was hard and 1 i kew was easy and found a middle ground. Screw up happen. just roll with them
pine fulcrum
lol what
wooden bramble
i read that as "i have never felt available for windows"
small fern
yeah, I just pasted that ๐
pine fulcrum
@gusty marlin alright imma play your game <_<
bleak cairn
yup lets go xD
brave current
So how come there are Jam submissions that was uploaded roughly an hour ago?
Did they have really slow upload speed?
small fern
paper scaffold
I'm more concerned about the games that were uploaded to itch before the jam started
sonic echo
wonder when they begin to judge the games
paper scaffold
With so many games they'll probably start soon ๐
