Alright, thanks for the tips!
#game-jam-chat
scarlet lotus
No way my current game would be playable outside VR but I'll probably do something to try it out eventually
clever barn
Me if i got time I'll try to make a web browser version, but probably post jam ^^
Still got some UVMaps to paint !
final arch
sweating profusely damn day job
vapid thistle
Should be basically done, just a little more testing and polish
glad wing
I spent a bunch of time this morning polishing UI assets nobodyโs gonna look twice at ๐ฌ
vapid thistle
Does anyone know why my lighting is having problems? I built my lighting and it looked good, I want and worked on a different map and when I looked my other map the lighting was wonky here's what it looks like:
Any ideas?
clever barn
Have you check your normals ?
vapid thistle
I haven't a clue about the normals. I'm using a marketplace pack
How would I go about checking them?4
clever barn
Not a clue how you make this inside the UE...
vapid thistle
I just rebuild the lighting and it looks fine again
keen crown
i went to bed thinking ill sleep an hour or 2 tops
7-8 hrs later when supper is ready
fq
clever barn
At least your are all fresh for the last 11 hours ! ๐
keen crown
๐ well all that's left is the gameplay
but still
till 5 am and got work tomorrow
failed to plan my vacation proper
rough kraken
If i'm not admin in my group i can't send the project ?
scarlet lotus
I finished my game! Relaxing and browsing the other submissions now
vapid thistle
Compiling shaders is so much fun
rough kraken
What i have to do when im here
rough kraken
Oh okay thanks i found ๐
clever barn
@vapid thistle Yay ! So much fun ! โค โค โค I Love compiling shaders !
final arch
he quick question when i move a object using set world location and apply sweep i would expect it to trigger event hit when it collides with something but it doesnt, am i missing something ?
Its even pushing other objects away but still no hit event is triggered
clever barn
Cant help on this... It's well configured to receive/cast hit and trigger the event ?
final arch
Yeah never mind, i realized how random my question was. i'm moving away from a physical "bullet" and will just use a line trace. Thanks though
clever barn
Fine, if I can help, I have some time, I'm compling shaders right now ! ๐
final arch
That sounds like fun, I'm fairly new at this, why would shaders compiling be "fun". Does it just take a long time or is it error prone or something?
analog walrus
@final arch Ue has a built in projectile movement class. But a bp together with that and collision volume and you're good to go
final arch
Thanks ill look into that
analog walrus
Oh, what'd do for one more day
clever barn
@final arch It's just so long on my old computer, each change i do on ONE material I have to wait he recompile 80!! materials, take about 3/5mn each time, and all is frozen during this time
final arch
wow, so you could really use that main prize huh ?
clever barn
Note : I only have about 10 materials in my scene
I realy could, my 600โฌ 10 years old laptop is a bit outdated ! :p
Especialy for the UE ^^
final arch
i wish you all the luck
clever barn
I don't think I'll win this one, and with all the computing time, I got half the time than the others :p
final arch
Well i only started sunday, not sure if i'm gonna make it at all ๐
clever barn
Well, I'll add something to my porfolio and get an excuse to work on something for 5 days, it's already nice ^^
clever barn
I think I'm gonna drop a few features to sleep earlier tonight ^^
wet rivet
I can't wait until there's a VR headset that is a good replacement f or a monitor so I don't have to take it on and off 40 times
amber latch
Thatโs the dream ๐
wet rivet
Oh and also while im dreaming something with flawless tracking having the tracking screw up and making it thing it's something wrong in your game is ugh
scarlet lotus
Honestly I think the index would be fine if you had a tracker for your chair and keyboard
wet rivet
I haven't used the index before, how's reading text on it?
My main issue with the rift and using the oculus dash to see my monitor is it just becomes awkward or I have to upscale my image a whole bunch to get something readable
final arch
Yeah, i am ready to be plugged in matrix style, why depend on your eyeballs when you can just get it directly ๐
scarlet lotus
I haven't tried the index yet but text wasn't so bad on the quest which is the same resolution if I remember correctly
Still recommended to upscale it though
You could do some real coding inside it if you could find your keyboard and avoid falling over I'd say
analog walrus
When you promise yourself you wont add any more features on the last day, convince your self it will only take a few minutes and do it anyway and it ends up actually only taking a few minutes and adds something the game really needed.. It never goes that way for me. I think it has to do with the Ozzy playing while I work. More Ozzy = better games.
oblique cairn
Anyone have a suggestion on best way to record a gameplay video for VR? I am planning to record with OBS, but wonder if someone has a better suggestion
analog walrus
OBS is the best I've got. I haven't had anything that works better.
The only thing I hate about OBS is you can't move the start streaming button from next to the record b utton, at least not that I can find .
I delete my streamning keys everytime I stop a stream now, ....
scarlet lotus
I wasn't even able to get OBS working for me
oblique cairn
I prefer nvidia recorder for fullscreen, but not sure if I can make VR preview fullscreen effectivly
... actually, I think it is in the packaged game
tranquil matrix
@oblique cairn I made a drag and drop VRSpectatorCamera with mouse+kb control that you can use if you want to capture from a different perspective (download in post): https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/events/1586143
analog walrus
So help me out with the itch part of this., If I submit a project early, I can upload revisions until the deadline?
oblique cairn
@analog walrus yes, you can!
oblique cairn
@tranquil matrix sounds good! will check it out ๐
tranquil matrix
@analog walrus You upload to your itch dashboard first, and you can then submit it to the game jam
oblique cairn
@analog walrus yes, I'd recommend submitting as soon as you have something that may have a chance to win, then doing updates with butler
analog walrus
Ok, so then I just update the project and that updates the submission?
oblique cairn
You must update both
oblique cairn
project is for itch, submission is a bunch of extra info for judges
analog walrus
So if the files on the project change the submission stays the old until I also update the submission
I know I'm getting into the minutia, but I want to be sure I understand clearly
oblique cairn
you only need to update the submission if info needs changing, it should point at new files automatically
https://itch.io/jam/2019-summer-ue4jam/rate/467801 is my submission
analog walrus
Do I need to be sure I don't update it after the deadline then?
oblique cairn
after deadline, file upload is locked
analog walrus
okay that was my concern that it would allow me to overwrite and then disqualify myself
oblique cairn
but you can still update game page and submission - info, add screenshots, gamplay video, submission details
wet rivet
Dang that is a tiny filesize
scarlet lotus
Lol we both ended up with a super hot mechanic vr game
oblique cairn
@scarlet lotus which is your game?
analog walrus
@wet rivet I made all my models and textures, and collision , I focused on basic geometry from the start
that's why, plus I ran all the audio through audacity and made it into shorter loops, and a bunch of little things like that
scarlet lotus
@oblique cairn https://tgower.itch.io/make-it-count
analog walrus
The biggest file is the music
scarlet lotus
https://itch.io/jam/2019-summer-ue4jam/rate/467850 Here is the link with gameplay description
analog walrus
This is my most complicated mesh, other than the player
oblique cairn
I'm amazed how well the music compressed in mine, 10min track + 1min track was only about 10mb in packaged game
think it is ogg internally
analog walrus
Yeah, I tried rencoding to ogg before putting it in the editor and it blows it back up on import, but the file on package matches what the size is as an ogg
dmmit, I got to stop gooffin g off and focus
oblique cairn
I perhaps should have done more of my own art, using polygon samurai meshes, some with a few tweaks in blender. A good portion of my "art" was in the level design
simplest asset is perhaps a 1x1 white png, made in mspaint ๐
carmine kindle
Aww yeah, finally done and submitted. ๐
wet rivet
Hey guys I need a second opinion on a mechanic I'm working on basically for the agility, the dog can either be 100% obedient and go to where the player says or have a bit of randomness to it and look more natural, I'm wondering which one looks better. I'm worried that the first one making the dog have it's own instincts may make the code look buggy rather than it's working as intended, as the dog doesn't follow directions exactly
Version with wander: https://youtu.be/o5F1HPb5G7g
Version Without https://youtu.be/tVgcfwNuYog
Personally I'm leaning towards the first version with wander
carmine kindle
The second version looks a lot more robotic and like it's just a "move here" command with nothing else to it.
wet rivet
Right that's what I was thinking, also it makes the game super easy
Thanks for your input ๐
wet rivet
You gotta tag me when it's submitted that looks awesome
wet rivet
Man I only did about 8 commits this jam since I was solo, I really need to get into the habit of committing as I finish stuff so I can revert back when I break it
In other news though all of my medium priority and high priority tasks are now done so back to the fun stuff! ๐
keen crown
๐ noise
i'm glad that i often commit.
but i did stop using branches after the 2nd day
ue4 didn't like it too much + the project got dereferenced a couple of times
but hella handy for some broken scenes and models
clever barn
Almost ready ! ๐
wet rivet
It's less than 6 hours to submit time and I'm rerigging my dog omg
There's some really awesome submissions this jam, I can't wait to play them
I don't have the link to it but the game where you draw with the pencil, I'm calling it now that one will win
100%
clever barn
I didnt take the time to look yet, I only see Sonic and the one on Godot ^^
wet rivet
I'm rooting for the godot submission
analog walrus
A lot of unedited market places assets, and stuff from other places.
clever barn
As team of one (and UE novice and first AR project) I'm quite happy of myself, I still have 5 hours to make the packages, splash screens and others useless but necessary stuffs ๐
And all assets are homemade ! ๐ (except generated voice and small sound effects)
oblique cairn
@clever barn there is a godot submission?
also, could be good to submit before doing splashscreens and whatnot
(you can update it)
clever barn
@oblique cairn Their was ! ^^
I already uploaded a package 10 hours ago ๐
The first one working
An Unreal process has crashed ! ๐ โค
Is 5 hours enouth ? ๐
wet rivet
Yep but much better than where it was at before haha
clever barn
Run corgi run !
wet rivet
For some reason when I move the bones at the far back of the body it moves the whole thing
Not gonna worry about it I guess, just gonna live in denial on it
I didn't need tail animations anyways
keen crown
it fine
... the slowest progression ever
working for finance sure has made me slow in development
sheesh
clever barn
A bit less "break" in the movement and more speed could be great @wet rivet
keen crown
keen crown
fuq i want to implement a http request
wonder if it's possible to do this garbage in bp's even
oblique cairn
@stuck hearth varest?
wet rivet
Ready for liftoff
clever barn
OBSCeption !!!!
I'm still not sure about my game title... Is "A Jellyfish that counts" sound well ? The game is about a jellyfish that learn you how to count in different language.
The problem with finishing an AR project by night, is that with low light it's now working very nice... ๐
keen crown
f
just every time you test open a blank page
or write one for your browser
make an empty html file with <html><body></body></html> and press f11 in your browser
hmm dunno why death screen ain't working but at least my additional win condition works (if your car survives, about 999 explosives charges refilled)
might as well build it now
how rubbish it is still
clever barn
look nice from here ^^
keen crown
it's rather dull, but all my games are ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
but at least got some good practice in for the game ill make next week
goon b good
wet rivet
For some reason importing a new mesh broke all my physics interactions
what was fine on the old one now gets pushed around by the new one
No clue where the issue is and its stressing me out aaa
Found it - physics asset changed
This actually had me so stressed oh my gosh all I need to do is generate a convex hull physics asset and it's working - I need to do more with physics in the future
clever barn
I just add a function that broke everithing else me ! ๐
And now time for the winning condition ^^
wet rivet
I think all my functions do that already
clever barn
It was already implemented, but caused a bug that I couldnot see before build, and the fix broke the rest ! ๐
And I noticed I had forget a "winning condition" but it's 10mn to implement this.
Jellyfish doesnt like cheaters
vapid thistle
I like the accent!
clever barn
I chose british accent, french is canadian :p
ionic yarrow
If Iโm not going for size is there any reason I should package as win64 vs 32?
clever barn
Do both
keen crown
only did 32 bit
oblique cairn
what need is there to target 32bit these days?
analog walrus
So I can edit it to add the highlight reel link after submitting?
keen crown
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
i find it weird that the link on the page itself isn't enough
well time for a small break before doing the rest.
clever barn
What Android build should I pick ? ATC DXT ETC1 ETC2 ASTC ? ๐
west wing
I love the "Unknown error" packaging error.
clever barn
always useful ! ๐
oblique cairn
is there not a real error buried further up, or in another log?
hardy rune
west wing
@oblique cairn sometimes yes, sometimes no. I have failing build when Houdini Engine plugin enabled but not installed into project without any indication. Luckily it fails even empty project, so, easy to isolate.
oblique cairn
@west wing I remember issues with houdini packaging a few months ago: https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/842915/packaging-error-object-reference-not-set-to-an-ins.html
clever barn
Ho ! I start a build, go take some tea and when I come back, Unreal is gone ! ๐
oblique cairn
Thats a nice thing about my current <100mb project... I set a build going, think about going to make some tea.... and the build is done before I get up ๐
clever barn
I'm at 135 with 0 optimisations, but it's already too much for my computer ^^
oblique cairn
Some ultra-cool ninja fighting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ-8s29Y3KA
still making some last-moment tweaks, should have done video after jam really...
clever barn
You should add some corgi to bring you back the shurikens
oblique cairn
west wing
Also managed to get < 100 from ~450 MB. LOD bias on textures works great.
clever barn
98,1 mo ! Well, I can check that box ! :p
ionic yarrow
Will there any penalty if my YouTube video wonโt show cause itโs processing?
clever barn
Only if it's still processing on two days when they'll start looking at it.
ionic yarrow
Lol k Iโll be good haha
gritty beacon
do I need to do anything special when uploading a game created with a team? or does it just go on my personal itch account I just made and I'll list the others in the submission form only?
keen crown
on the ue4's jam page on itch, when you hit submit a menu will pop-up where you'll fill in the team and such
keen crown
ehm if you don't have a proj on itch ja
btw the first time you make an item it will be a draft
after saving and refreshing the page you can edit it and set it to public
once it's public go back to the ue4 page and you'll get this
gritty beacon
do they want usernames or real names of the members?
I'm assuming user name
I will be able to update the build after submitting this form, right?
gritty beacon
it doesn't explicitly say that though
keen crown
In your Submission, please include the full name and email address of each Contestant on your team and indicate if the work is 100% original or if assets were sourced from an online marketplace. All contact information provided must be current, accurate, and valid.
please do read the pdfs
clever barn
https://youtu.be/OmVPr7XqNHE Well, I'll add a nice app icon and it's done for me ! ๐ I'll take some time later this week for some polishing, splashscreen and menus...
analog walrus
Submitted,....
faint sail
Get back to work Kuro
analog walrus
I spent the last two hours doing play throughs , bug fixes and polish. but yeah there's one or two things I'd like to add, but might let it go
keen crown
faint sail
I am 50% of your viewers.
faint sail
lol
wet rivet
If there's anyone with a VR headset who isn't rushing to submit their game and wants to play test for me I'd appreciate it ๐
Entering my polish phase now
hardy rune
I won't finish my game :/
clever barn
@hardy rune do your best, and you can still finish post jam, it will still be a great achivement. ๐ Publish what you have so you can tell "I did it" ๐
hardy rune
I'm trying to change the game to fit
clever barn
Good luck ๐
keen crown
jams not only to be won but also to gain knowledge
i'm likely even able to clock it as work hours ๐
welp finally able to exit the game with a better control schema
clever barn
I'm updating my porfolio prior to job searching and game jam like this are VERY VALUABLE , even failed
keen crown
idk how my guidance councilor wants to flip this because i took the past couple of days of as part of my vacation. but prolly cause i need to write a blog etc he recommended that i change these to training.
<- work in finance
how dis related
oblique cairn
games have built in exit? alt+f4 ๐
analog walrus
I forgot to disable the debug quit on mine before submtting, I'm on the fence about whether to fix it. I always set the option key on the controller to quit the game while developing
oblique cairn
I'm done, going to bed
Think I have a chance to win this one, perhaps a finalist or special cat - though I am by no means confident
Looking at submissions, I see there is a hitchikers guide game, and a sonic remake, both made long before the jam...
clever barn
Good night @oblique cairn , let's slash some Corgi !
keen crown
do need to model it still doe
hardy rune
Yeah guys, I'm retiring from the jam
clever barn
Me too, lasts edit are done ! Time to sleep (Just i dont plan to win this jam :p )
keen crown
fuq uv unwrapping doe
hardy rune
thanks for the help and support
ionic yarrow
Can you update you info after you submit? I just need to drop in a link
clever barn
I thinks updates are blocked after deadline until juging
ionic yarrow
I just have the submission page all filled out but I canโt put the YouTube link in
clever barn
But you can still work on it for yourself and update the game page on itch.io
Just dont remove the version you publish during the jam
ionic yarrow
Yeah but Iโm specifically talking about just the gameplay video link directly in the submission. Can I edit that form again in the next 30 minutes?
clever barn
You have 1 hour ๐
wet rivet
Does 32bit vs 64 bit matter?
ionic yarrow
Iโve been up for 35 hours Iโm at half speed
clever barn
Give them the youtube link, even if the editing is not finished yet the link will still be the same tomorow
wet rivet
Not going for under 100, just want it to work on everything
wet rivet
Gotcha thanks
ionic yarrow
Yeah I asked the same earlier. Many were recommending both
clever barn
One game I upload with both have 170 dl on 64bit for 40 on 32 bit,...
I'm gone ! Good luck all !
radiant badger
When do they announce winner? This thirsday
clever barn
200 entry ? Dont expect until a week or two
radiant badger
Ok. Just wasnt sure as it didnt really say when winners were going to be announced. And I wanted to be there during the livestream if that's what they were doing
analog walrus
so deleting the file and uploading a new one on the project is enough to update the submission?
clever barn
I think yes
keen crown
quick arse model
minor hemlock
That's a weird arse if I've ever seen one
wet rivet
Got my project submitted ๐ Feeling alright about it
Wish I tied into the theme more but I wanted to try something more of the metaphorical make it count than literal
compact cedar
@wet rivet the link?
wet rivet
If you've got an oculus device https://itch.io/jam/2019-summer-ue4jam/rate/467598
Or vive may work haven't tested
west wing
My submission: https://itch.io/jam/2019-summer-ue4jam/rate/468394
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfmK7apdiCU
amber latch
4.30am i can barely see ๐
wet rivet
Anyone got recommendations for a video editing software?
I need one that can pretty much just cut, paste, and put on audio
keen crown
worth it
marble flax
Got a game published... YAY.. https://itch.io/jam/2019-summer-ue4jam/rate/468163
west wing
@amber latch the only mandatory thing before deadline is actual game build submitted to jam. The page and submission form can be edited anytime.
keen crown
k final build tossing out now
amber latch
awesome
marble flax
20 min left. 176 entries so far.
amber latch
been awhile since iv seen it go past 200
keen crown
still weird how the attenuation of the character is not working
oh well
hmm not sure what to do, already 6 and should work in 3
amber latch
finally posted https://itch.io/jam/2019-summer-ue4jam/rate/468491
amber latch
keep you busy for few days shadow
harsh oasis
Now I got a new game idea for this concept .. "During game jam ever seconds count"
shrewd plinth
is there anyone to get an extension? mine is uploading right now but it is taking forever T_T
anyway*
gaunt copper
217 ๐ฎ
analog walrus
a game where you try to make an upload go faster as midnight approaches.
gaunt copper
20 sec
balmy jacinth
Omg Just made my submission with 47 seconds left on the clock
gaunt copper
10
amber latch
222
analog walrus
I can hear the cries of the pending uploaders
west wing
It will change though.
shrewd plinth
i am a pending uploader and i am sad
analog walrus
...
gaunt copper
I gonna start playthrough tommorow as always ^^ but this itme there iwll be something new
i made a bot that let viewers rate the entries i pla yxd
play
and i will add the score ot the list
analog walrus
twitch?
gaunt copper
so i hope oyu guys come to rate with me
balmy jacinth
Where can I view the list when your done. I would like to see how I did ๐
if I have time I might even join
amber latch
cool
gaunt copper
trail trellis
Victory GIF. High-five everyone! ๐
amber latch
ill be watching it shadow โค
analog walrus
@gaunt copper When?
balmy jacinth
Just followed ๐
gaunt copper
YEs other new hting i plan to use Google Sheets this time ;]
keen crown
u got it... if i am up
west wing
We should start to put Shadowriver references in ue4jam games.
wet rivet
I did!
gaunt copper
so anyone can view it
gritty beacon
oh my god that was the most stressful 5 minutes of my life
balmy jacinth
Oh hey Rhys I was about to try to find your name. What was the name of your game, I would like to give it a try.
wet rivet
||One of the dogs in my games leaderboard is called shadow || <- shadow river easter egg in my game
keen crown
fixed the sound in the last 4 min
gaunt copper
@gritty beacon me too we package the game and reflections didnt work
wet rivet
Its โlast day in the parkโ Iโll get the link for you
gaunt copper
needed to package again
keen crown
still hate not having a custom icon and "unknown publisher" triggering windows warnings
wet rivet
@balmy jacinth https://itch.io/jam/2019-summer-ue4jam/rate/467598
balmy jacinth
ahh it required VR?
wet rivet
Yeah I may make a non VR build in the future though but Iโm wiped out
I think I probably put in 45-60 hours
gritty beacon
now that this stressful time is over, are we allowed to edit the submission and correct typos in the description? obviously not uploading a new build
balmy jacinth
It looks great, its what I am most looking forward to trying, I might borrow a friends oculus and try it out.
wet rivet
I was really happy with this jam, I learned so much about 3D modeling, animation, AI and VR
balmy jacinth
I learned a ton from this jam as well. Had a blast.
wet rivet
Once I get the energy back Iโll probably do a port of it to the oculus quest
And make a trailer
keen crown
i need to get my vive back this weekend or sum
balmy jacinth
Thanks for the excitement everyone, can't wait to try everyones stuff. But this guys ready for a shower and sleep. I smell like adrenaline
keen crown
lending my gear out to a pimax owner... those don't have controllers/light houses yet.
west wing
@gritty beacon yes.
tranquil matrix
222 entries, wow!
keen crown
๐ gl reviewing
solid abyss
I think our game had one of the deepest logic
keen crown
remember when it used to be sub 100 and it took a long ass time back then
tranquil matrix
FYI if you had submission issues in the last minute, DON'T update your game jam build and send an email to community@unrealengine.com with your itch.io user name, and the name of the game.
gritty beacon
I replaced the build before the deadline was over, that's fine, right?
solid abyss
๐
tranquil matrix
Yeah absolutely
solid abyss
I think our game had one of the deepest logic and story
https://img.itch.zone/aW1nLzIzOTQxNzUucG5n/original/ZhOP9H.png
tranquil matrix
If the game wasn't uploaded prior to the deadline, there's nothing I can do unfortunately
gritty beacon
editing the game page (not the submission) to add text is also fine as long as the build doesn't change?
wet rivet
Are we able to DM you guys a link to our trailer later on in the week for it to go in the reel? I didn't get around to having time to make one yet
gritty beacon
also, I replaced the build after doing the submission, but before the deadline, did it properly record the new one? how do I check?
gritty beacon
well the itch page has the new build, but I don't know if that is the one used by the submission
solid abyss
@tranquil matrix .. if we submitted game in time .. but couldn't add a playthrough trailer .. can we add it later?
tranquil matrix
@wet rivet Yeah, send us an email to community@unrealengine.com with the title "2019 Summer #ue4jam Trailer <name of the game>" and include your team name as well
wet rivet
Cool thanks ๐
tranquil matrix
Appreciate if it's 30-60s long, otherwise we have to cut ~45s and you don't get to choose which 45s ^^
analog walrus
Yeah I was too tired to mess with editing some stuff together 30 seconds or not
wet rivet
This jam is like exactly what I needed to get me back into game development, recently I've been feeling pretty burnt out on my main project
I might keep up doing small games instead of trying to do a large project trying out new mechanics
tranquil matrix
Sometimes the best creativity juice is to do something completely different, or not do anything creative at all
keen crown
in all honesty think that this is my most completed game to date... apart from maybe 1.
west wing
@keen crown but what about icon?
keen crown
i mean the icon for the exec itself
i have the standard unreal one now.
wanted to alter it
gritty beacon
does it not display the special categories you checked on the entry page?
analog walrus
It was fun. Had to set a pretty limited scope to make all the art and have what is technically a full game in 5 days.
wet rivet
Have you guys seen "Pencil Heart"? I really love that teams take on the theme
analog walrus
@keen crown what?
keen crown
oh did you add anything after the submission
analog walrus
I switched it to free from paid so it would show the download. Last update to the file was at like 11L15 I think
11:15
@keen crown Why?
near cairn
I am sad ๐ my build finished just 2 minutes after closing ๐ Anyways I will be downloading and playing rest of the games soon will give feed back on the comments cheers !๐
fallow lion
damn cant download 57mb in icthio
placid geode
good luck yall
sleek rivet
When will we know the results? ๐
placid geode
They are gonna be playing for a while with 222 subs
My game is going to consume some time if they try to beat it
lol
gaunt copper
i can tell you few of those entires are probably invalid
keen crown
i heard
placid geode
I saw some weird file structures
gaunt copper
people resubmit old entries
sleek rivet
wat
gaunt copper
the last jam was 2 entries that was resubmits
placid geode
lame
analog walrus
yeah a few aren't unreal, a few are games they have trailers for that are months old
analog walrus
There's a few that look pretty polished though
placid geode
I put on just enough polish to stay under 100mb
gaunt copper
https://karl-emris-jones.itch.io/sonic-4-episode-2 wtf is this?
keen crown
probably have plugins and stuff i didn't need, removed like 100-200 megs before.
keen crown
f the awesome 222
visual drift
ayo, i would have liked to add more information to my submission but i was cutting time suuuuuuper close. If i edit the submition I wont be removed from the jam or anything ay?
west wing
Weird that I can still edit the build files. Last time it explicitly didn't allow it via UI.
wanton furnace
https://mad-mushroom-games.itch.io/moonlight-maze final version , finally done
desert coral
It's weird, when I package the game using the "Development" build configuration, everything works as expected, but when I use "Shipping", then the controls in my Pawn aren't triggering. Have you guys encountered that before ?
analog walrus
You might be relying on something that is removed from packaged builds.
err from shipping builds
desert coral
Not sure what, there is nothing special in that Pawn. I'll need to check exactly what's the difference between those 2 configurations (I don't know what UE is doing, but I observed that the package size is 40MB bigger with dev build)
wet rivet
Kind of similar I was using the debug light of the widget interaction blueprint so I had to package in development
desert coral
Oh, is it because I'm using a plugin ?
desert pecan
I had something like that happen with one of my original mechanics stopped working with shipping mind you I think its because it relied on an unreal command or something, had to take it out ๐ฆ
desert coral
Oh, could it be because I'm calling console commands to set video settings ? That has nothing to do with Pawn but... ?
desert pecan
dont see setting video settings messing with it lord knows ๐
pine fulcrum
yo whats the must plays
frail palm
So I miss my window. But if ya'll want to try out the game you can check it out here. https://jvthewanderer.itch.io/get-to-the-train
analog walrus
I've heard that this one is kinda fun https://itch.io/jam/2019-summer-ue4jam/rate/466073
Of course that was just me talking to myself
wet rivet
@pine fulcrum https://itch.io/jam/2019-summer-ue4jam/rate/468143 personally I really liked the concept of this one
pine fulcrum
low key though if you've submitted something yall should link it now
desert coral
I've submitted something: https://nxgen.itch.io/once-upon-a-timespace
Didn't have time to implement what I wanted but at least it's a game ๐
wet rivet
Well shoot can't argue with that: https://itch.io/jam/2019-summer-ue4jam/rate/467598 mine is VR
@desert coral I love the colors on that, imma download it and give it a shot
desert coral
@wet rivet Yea I think I spent too much time on the style and not enough on the gameplay ๐
carmine kindle
Mmm... sprite based RPGs. 
https://bohrium.itch.io/the-count-of-schwarzburg
desert coral
Well, good luck to all of you guys who have submitted. Have a good night !
placid geode
gritty beacon
since people are posting their stuff, here's mine 
https://itch.io/jam/2019-summer-ue4jam/rate/468521
placid geode
Apparently if you make changes they don't show up on submission page
nice
very interesting concept
gritty beacon
got some brain melting time travel puzzles
gritty beacon
I was able to edit the submission and fix typos and stuff
toxic harbor
As long as we're all pimping our entries ahem ahem https://itch.io/jam/2019-summer-ue4jam/rate/465904 cough
desert pecan
placid geode
Nice, I thought that the detail from the game would auto-update. Didn't realize I had to edit the actual submission.
analog walrus
I'm confused about something. Earlier I was told uploading a new file to the project would change the submission but when I look at the submission time it never changed from the first upload.
Does it not update?
toxic harbor
Submission time is when you pressed the submit button for your project to the jam
analog walrus
Ok, I'm just worried because there were a lot of updates in that two hours
toxic harbor
file upload time is apart of the games itch meta itself
oh did you make an update to the project post dead line?
toxic harbor
at the same time itch is kinda weird, structurally speaking
analog walrus
It doesn't make it very clear
gritty beacon
I think the file it shows when you view your submission (not game) page while logged in is the one that counts
placid geode
a featured playthrough on the June 13th live stream?
Like next year?
or was that a copy and paste error?
wanton furnace
to the guy who made the 3d knight on the horse with the funky animations , what your game called ? it looked really interesting
sleek rivet
๐
limber bear
@sleek rivet @gritty beacon my twitter reply did not mention GL ๐ soo good luck on the jam
here is Allar playing your games
and GL to everyone
pine fulcrum
@desert coral yo what
two trees man
theres two trees
and no space
timespace
is fucked with trees man
paper scaffold
A lot of submissions to this game jam
Around 40 more than last time as far as I remember
Here's mine: https://ogniok.itch.io/warriors-and-tactics
hasty pecan
Congratulations to all who survived the jam)) https://realdude.itch.io/count-me-in
solid abyss
As the manager and the person responsible for the level/scope design of this project, I would like to say a few words about this project.
Our game is very high on the narrative, and meaningfullness of the decisions that a player has to take, with even some easter eggs thrown here and there.The Last Confession is an innovative take โon the theme of "Make it Count" in many ways, some subtle .. some very obvious.
First is the plot, you have the one last chance to confess: I was aware, that many of my fellow devs taking part in this JAM would go for a shooter type game, because of the cliche plot of a character who has only 1 bullet, and he has to defeat many enemies or hit multiple targets with just that. So I pleaded my team to not do what everyone else was doing ... and to think out of the box.
The Second way I implented the theme of Make it Count, is that each item is important, you have to make use of each and every item.You start empty handed, and you talk to NPCs, and go through their quests .. to gain an item. And no item is throwable or useless .. and is required to get the final ending (win condition).
The Third way we ended up implementing the theme is, I made a small no of 3D assets and placed them in a way that make sense, and gives you a feeling of a actual town. As you can see from the layout.The art style we went with was non-photorealistic aka stylized style. 1 Tree, 1 bush, 1 grass, 1 House, 1 stall, 1 color for terrain, etc
The Fourth way to implement the theme was that each and every character has a meaning to his conversation. Like in an actual town, there are strong bonds between the characters, and talking to almost every NPC opens up options for some other NPC, which is required to complete the game. In short, almost every NPC (and talking to him) counts!
The Fifth major way we implemented the theme was, that given that neither me or my partner Andgeno knew how to animate characters at all, then how to make the characters come to life?
I planned for expressive sounds like 'hmm', 'sigh', 'huh', etc .. that are character reactions to play that role. Given this was a jam, we didn't have time to record long dialogues for it given that we were heavy on text.On this part I would like to thanks the following members of my team: Ninjamin (Stave Dankerson)(Background Music & Male Voices) and his roomate Zoe Foster(Female sounds) and special thanks to Wister (who had to quit midway due to a family emergency) for getting together a excellent soundtrack.
And when Andgeno, who was responsible for coding into blueprints everything on his own (since I don't know how to even properly move around the camera or place objects in UE, being completely new to it)... added the audio assets to the game...
It breathed a sense of fresh life in all the ragdolls. The ragdolls, ended up giving a feeling of how tasteless and colourless is life when you are helpless in a romantic situation.
Of course the project is not polished in some ways, given it was only the 2 of us (1 for art, 1 for blueprints alone) for the most part of it, after 13 people joined the team and disappeared without doing a single drop of meaningful work including the person in whose team me and geno had signed up to participate in our first jam (we are strangers to each other)...
And top it all of, my own internet stopped working when 6 crucial hours were remaining for the the jam to end .. and we barely managed to submit .. with 2 minutes remaining on the clock.
I believe afterall, we did a very good job, and I appeal to the Judges to consider these points in their final decision.
We will post a polished version of the game in the coming few weeks ๐
gaunt copper
I be start streaming around 8PM CET
sacred wedge
amber latch
glass fossil
Folks, I am updating my game jam submission, both 32 and 64 bits. There are a few bugs I was trying to resolve. It will be ready in a few minutes.
I also need to upload a video of the gameplay for showcase at the UE4 awards livestream.
civic dock
Just wanted to say congratulations to everyone who submitted a game to the jam. ๐
Looking forward to checking them out!
copper carbon
We're so excited to play your games ๐
glass fossil
I am so excited to watch you all try them!
compact cedar
@copper carbon make sure to play all of them...(except some weird entries, like sonic 4)
clever barn
Good, because mine is weird ! => https://itch.io/jam/2019-summer-ue4jam/rate/468172 :p
ionic yarrow
Congrats to everyone who participated and those who didnโt get there submission in on time Iโm still proud of you!
I would like to say thank you to everyone who helped me in chat and those bold enough to ask for help with question I was afraid to ask.
If anyone wants to give me any feedback on where I should have spent my time these last days I would love some feedback. This is my first game ever so I would love to know anything I could improve on.
compact cedar
@ionic yarrow your game is scary
What's the purpose of putting batteries in to house?
ionic yarrow
the batteries and the stars power the dome that protects the house
@compact cedar - I'm super honored that you played my game all the way through. I wish I could have done a breakdown of the final score. to show you that everything you do subtracts from the love you give your pup.
in most cases your final score will be negative
also you can also just stay inside as long as you want and the world will move on without worry. Just like in real life. spend some time with your loved ones... the rest of the world will keep on turning.
final arch
This was my first jam and i did not actually submit something because it simply run out of time. I did no prep work before the jam (and started only on sunday) but i noticed alot of my time went into making and debugging basic movement and stuff. So for the next jam i thought of pre-creating some blueprints for movement and you know some of the basics. Is this something you people commonly do and just have some generic logic ready to go?
analog walrus
Can we add another download to our project page and it not affect the submission? I want to add a version that includes prerequisites.
gaunt copper
Starting my summer #ue4jam 2019 submission playthrough marathon, where i gonna play all 220 submissions ^^ This time you will be able to rate entries with me so hop in, the more the better ;] https://www.twitch.tv/shadowriver
compact cedar
@final arch some people managed to pull the game in 2 days...if you missed few hours after deadline, you may add the game to itch and PM epic
analog walrus
@gaunt copper What entry was yours?
gaunt copper
Single bullet
compact cedar
Sadly main menu RNG got broken -_-
final arch
@compact cedar I actually have a lot to the still, my day job kinda got in the way
*to do
compact cedar
@final arch well, we lost a dev due to his work for a last 1-2 days too -_- and he was our network expert
so Shadow had to figure out it himself
final arch
Yeah Life does that, getting in the way and stuff
compact cedar
ahahah
final arch
Still had fun though, did more in those 3-ish days than in weeks just because of the urge to submit something
gritty beacon
I uploaded a new build today, and it's showing up on the submission page too, what's up with that?
shouldn't it only be on the game page?
analog walrus
I'm not sure. I'm worried that it only takes the version of the file when you hit submit.
oblique cairn
weird, I thought files should be totally locked
in previous jams I wanted to add a "post jam optional updated version" but could not
perhaps this is now permitted, and they check timestamps? Could be a mistake though
analog walrus
Idk, I submitted 2 hours early but updated the project a bunch and the submission time never changed. not knowing how it works I'm worried it makes a copy when you submit on the jam page. I would like to have some clarification. @tranquil matrix
fallow lion
https://twitter.com/immiddlle/status/1161701027986497536?s=20 our game, finally found some time to make a tweet ๐ was destroyed yesterday
analog walrus
So can I add a second file then for people who need prereqs and it won't affect the entry?
glass fossil
Apologies folks, someone informed me another vital bug in Kamikaze's release. The game refuses to launch and I think I may have an idea why. So I am fixing that now.
compact cedar
@copper carbon sorry to poke, are you aware of how this itch submission thing works?
@tranquil matrix same question
tranquil matrix
@compact cedar What's your question?
@analog walrus Give me a link to your submission
compact cedar
@tranquil matrix sorry again, the discussion above, about ability to reupload the files after the deadline
tranquil matrix
There's no possibility of uploading a build after the deadline
compact cedar
only to add new ones?
tranquil matrix
If you uploaded one prior to the deadline but wasn't able to fill out the submission form, we will take a look at it (and if you're in that boat do NOT update your build since it will invalidate the timestamp for your previous submissions that might have been within the submission window)
Once the judging period is done, uploads will automatically open up again
compact cedar
"submitted 2 hours early but updated the project a bunch and the submission time never changed. "
"Zeblote: I uploaded a new build today, and it's showing up on the submission page too, what's up with that?"
tranquil matrix
Give me links to your submissions plx
analog walrus
oblique cairn
tranquil matrix
I've never tried to update a build once submitted, so I might be wrong here, but I think you need to re-submit your new upload for it to be the one that gets put in our judging queue
tranquil matrix
As the host of the game jam, the list of submitted games works a bit differently from yours
gritty beacon
but for me it shows both that and the one from today on the submission page
analog walrus
That would have been great to know. I uplaoded my final build at 11:15 and there was a lot of bug fixes between then and the first time I submitted
oblique cairn
using butler, the submission seems to point at the latest file automatically
paper scaffold
@tranquil matrix Is editing the submission itself okay? I updated the controls descriptions today after the deadline. Hope this didn't mess up anything
gritty beacon
@tranquil matrix how do I see which build has been put in the queue then
compact cedar
@oblique cairn maybe that's inconsistency of api on ITCH side?
oblique cairn
I suspect it is because it keeps the same filename
hey, looking at my "edit game" page, the file section does not look locked...
analog walrus
That sucks if that's howit works, my first upload was a buggy mess
oblique cairn
This does seem different to previous jams - before I could not upload an extra file, and I just uploaded something to test
@tranquil matrix I think something has gone wrong (though, I could just be misremembering)
gritty beacon
well if it doesn't update the build for the queue when we replaced the file before the deadline, that'd make this whole thing pointless
because most people did that
oblique cairn
(or the process has changed intentionally)
gritty beacon
especially since you encouraged people to make a submission early and do just that??
analog walrus
Yeah, if that's the case I'm pretty peeved. Everyone said the opposite was the case and it would update until the deadline
oblique cairn
I think even if there is some kinda issue, it should be easy for judges to see upload date, and pick latest upload before deadline
doubt this will cause any real problem
tranquil matrix
I looked into Zeblote's page and compared it to the builds that we have in our queue and the one prior to the deadline is the one we have. Same goes for @analog walrus, I can see the last build you pushed before the deadline was over.
gritty beacon
nice, you have the one with CL265?
tranquil matrix
Yes, not 8
gritty beacon
as long as it's not 264
because that one is broken
so I uploaded 265 a few mins later but still before the deadline
tranquil matrix
@gritty beacon I don't even see 264
gritty beacon
stable kiln
@tranquil matrix any1 at epic using VR to make stuff, i seen the VR edityor for lvl design and seq, but are some pp like actively usin that?
tranquil matrix
I pretty much only work on VR/AR projects myself, but I usually have the locomotion scheme at runtime that I need to inspect my level design in VR so I rarely use the VR Editor
The VR editor is used a lot within certain verticals (virtual production etc), and I know a few level designers that likes to use it. But, it's mostly for validating your work, no so much for long editing sessions.
gritty beacon
oh hey. it's been locked
stable kiln
i guess its hard to beat mouse/kb
tranquil matrix
@gritty beacon You did not have that before?
gritty beacon
no, that's how I was able to upload the 268 with the bugs fixed
sleek rivet
Heh
tranquil matrix
I double checked the times that were set, and they're correct
gritty beacon
thought it was intended to be open so we could put new builds for players without updating the one for the jam
it wasn't locked a few hours ago
oblique cairn
@tranquil matrix Can confirm, it was not locked 10mins ago, it now is
I just uploaded that yen_alt.jpg to test
(10 mins ago, I now cannot upload more)
glass fossil
YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME!!! I REALLY need to fix an urgent bug on my game! People stated it wont even run on their computers and now I can not even fix this anymore!
What in God's fuck Epic!
oblique cairn
@glass fossil even if you did update after the deadline... it would not be judged
ionic yarrow
@tranquil matrix will notifications be sent out when the judging is completed or is there a date for that? Hate to be a bother and babysitting the idea.
glass fossil
Why would it not be judged?
ionic yarrow
@glass fossil itโs stated in the rules
oblique cairn
this is a bug/mistake/problem-with-itch, not a free pass on the rules
gritty beacon
only the build uploaded before the deadline is judged
new ones are just for people who find the game on the internet
glass fossil
So then what now? They just work with a project that practically crashes on startup?
ionic yarrow
@glass fossil you can always update you game page for public version but you submission delivered late will not be judged.
glass fossil
I have already submitted the project before the deadline
ionic yarrow
@glass fossil thatโs what I assume. Part of the jam was to have something working by the deadline. You can ask them to look at an earlier build if thatโs the case
glass fossil
I just need to update the build to make it run and not crash on startup.
They can not judge something that does not run.
stable kiln
whats ur submission, ill check if i crash ๐
glass fossil
Damnit. I hate Datasmith! Stupid enterprise tool complicated the cooking process and sabotaged my jam submission.
small fern
in good faith, people will trust your initial submission was proper
oblique cairn
only real solution is to get a couple of people to test it a while before deadline.
Though, if there is a workaround people can do locally to make it run (like install datasmith libs?) that can be added to instructions post-jam
small fern
but people could also try to make dummy builds that don't run properly to buy some extra time
stable kiln
i had to fix package errors for a marketplace asset ๐
glass fossil
What can they trust? It does not work. It crashes on start and now none will have a chance to play it.
stable kiln
i think you can update your itch page
ionic yarrow
@glass fossil lol you must try to understand. Thatโs like me competing in a race and then the race ends and I say โwait can I still race? I forgot to run when you said startโ many of us tested our submission on multiple machines ahead of time. I even made sure other machines could play before I even submitted
analog walrus
yeah mine says uplaods disabled now
small fern
@glass fossil I'm curious tho, you didn't actually test the packaged version at all?
analog walrus
That makes me feel better
stable kiln
or just make a new game page, and put in description the link of the non crashing page
small fern
I mean, I guess it's good lesson to learn for the next jam but sucks alright
glass fossil
It slipped this time around. Usually I test the packages, but I had to submit the game before deadline. I uploaded around the last minute.
stable kiln
@small fern you got it finished?
small fern
nah
glass fossil
Had a hard time fixing the other bugs already as is within the project.
sleek rivet
heh
glass fossil
Especially with AI.
ionic yarrow
@glass fossil you should still be very proud and itโs a good lesson learned. I am technically proud of you for your concern and effort .
small fern
I really loved my idea tho
stable kiln
i got a minimal viable product goin ๐
gritty beacon
lol we had no time to test anything in the end either
oblique cairn
in a previous jam, I messed up my mob spawner in the last few moments before upload, ended up with a "tower of wolfs" that would destroy player. Kinda funny, but totally broke the gameplay
stable kiln
was gunna quit cuz i had to work, but in the end i just used 4 hours to rough my assets together ๐
analog walrus
The lack of a file lock is what had me worried
gritty beacon
it was package -> archive -> upload asap
got quite lucky there are no game breaking bugs
stable kiln
i had a good laugh hitting the submit button again ๐
glass fossil
@ionic yarrow Perhaps... But if I had known this would happen, I would have not bother wasting my time with it, as was the case with last year's Summer submission The Veil. I ended up bailing out and removing my submission because it was in a bad state of playability.
glass fossil
I did not want the same fate to happen to The Kamikaze.
analog walrus
@gaunt copper
oblique cairn
Must admit, I've not tested my game on anyone elses PC this time... If anyone has a Vive (or perhaps other steamVR or occulus headset), I'd love to know if it works: https://itch.io/jam/2019-summer-ue4jam/rate/467801
glass fossil
So much time better spent updating the 2D Top Down Shooter template instead.
gritty beacon
@analog walrus what's that one called
glass fossil
sigh
gritty beacon
I want to play it but I'm too blind to find it on the huge page
oblique cairn
Put alot of effort into this one, have an adventure mode and endless mode
gritty beacon
oh nvm. I found it
small fern
@oblique cairn testing on someone elses PC is probably something most don't do on jams
there's no time for that ๐
stable kiln
@glass fossil you can still upload to itch again, just wont count as submission
small fern
unless it's a multiplayer and each dev tests on their own computers
but I dunno if that counts as same
oblique cairn
@small fern I've done it every jam except this one (my second machine, and getting a few people to try it)
Though, this time, it is VR
sleek rivet
Looks nice choza!
glass fossil
@stable kiln No, I can not.
https://i.gyazo.com/dcccda7811a9aeeb38dd7ea7ea425905.png
oblique cairn
good thing too, in a previous game, my game "Unscher" crashed on most PCs (think it was due to using early version of vulkan API)
@sleek rivet Thanks ๐
stable kiln
@glass fossil make a complete new page
glass fossil
Temporarily disabled until the jam awards.
If that is the case, I might as well just remove my submission and bail from the jam.
stable kiln
put in descriptio n of old page a link to the new1
small fern
can you even edit the description?
gritty beacon
I've been editing the description so yeah
small fern
ah ok, just checking
glass fossil
Alright, how about Google drive?
Link the update on the description.
Will that work?
oblique cairn
Oh! Shadowriver is starting streaming soon?
stable kiln
you could do that too
small fern
so, both win32 and win64 are unplayable?
oblique cairn
he has already: https://www.twitch.tv/shadowriver
glass fossil
@small fern Yes. They do not load the map.
They either go black screen or silently crash on execution.
analog walrus
@gritty beacon Clarity of confusion.
gritty beacon
yep
oblique cairn
@glass fossil does the itch build work on your local machine?
gritty beacon
did you forget to set the startup map ๐ค
eee I need to figure out why my controller magically stopped working
small fern
@glass fossil you did shipping build or development?
because if you got console there, you could just put description on the page on how to manually load the starting level with console ๐
analog walrus
@tranquil matrix Thank you. I was very worried. That's a big load off my mind.
small fern
curious what the actual fix was?
glass fossil
@oblique cairn No, it does not apparently. I am witnessing the same symptoms the few who tried it had.
@small fern I cooked the game using Shipping mode.
tranquil matrix
@ionic yarrow The judging period ends on September 5th (day of the winners announcement)
small fern
yeah, shipping doesn't have console :/
sleek rivet
@analog walrus you're the dev of that ball game?
analog walrus
yeah
gritty beacon
huh was there a mention here
sleek rivet
Nice :) did you watch allar playing it?
analog walrus
No, damn. would have loved to see that. Did I get thrashed?
glass fossil
Doubt a console would matter since one can not even loading the game.
analog walrus
@gritty beacon I thought you wrere talking to me about the startup map, and realized you weren't
sleek rivet
Check out this video "#ue4jam Nothing In Particular" http://www.twitch.tv/awesomeallar/v/466996570?sr=a&t=3714s
gritty beacon
ah I see
small fern
oh se played some of the games
analog walrus
@sleek rivet Oh man, yeah I got to see that thanks.
small fern
should have finished then ๐
sleek rivet
Wrong timestamp
analog walrus
I'll find it. Thanks.
sleek rivet
I think it's the first one
gritty beacon
I just realized how long that stream is
analog walrus
I found a bug in my first play through 2 minutes after midnight
sleek rivet
He played it like 1h haha
sleek rivet
Nope
@oblique cairn Check out this video "#ue4jam Nothing In Particular" http://www.twitch.tv/awesomeallar/v/466996570?sr=a
Dunno if he played your game though
desert pecan
that dude broke my game twice ๐ซ
west wing
I don't launch my game after deadline specifically to avoid finding a critical bug there.
oblique cairn
I think this is perhaps the first jam I have wanted to play my game after, sure I can get further on "endless" mode...
Perhaps should have made some UI for it, and not reset completly upon death (could retry same difficulty of fight instead)
analog walrus
@sleek rivet Thank you soo much. I am falling out of my chair laughing watching that. It's gold.
carmine kindle
Dangit, I got softlocks in my game. Seems to be only one fight though, which can be avoided. ๐
desert pecan
whats a soft lock ?
carmine kindle
when you just screw yourself and you can't progress
desert pecan
ahhh
analog walrus
Oh man, he found a bug I didn't know about and broke the end
glass fossil
Alright folks, so considering my situation, it seems I no longer have to worry about the UE4 jam or its results. I will still upload the updated fixed version later however at this rate, unless Epic is willing to judge the working build and ignore the broken one, consider my submission and the 5 days I spent on this jam forfeit.
Enjoy the UE4 jam. I'm off to the bar.
analog walrus
I'm ot sure if he downloaded the final build or not for that playthrough
glass fossil
It is not yet uploaded.
He probably has the broken version.
Whelp, so much for updating...
No matter what I do, I can not seem to resolve this barrier.
limber bear
I had Allar's stream running on the TV while I was working
turns out
I cant work whilst he is memeing on game jam content
sleek rivet
hehe
wet rivet
Ah man nothing like a game jam to get me a solid 7 hours of sleep followed by a 6 hour nap
And nothing like playing through your submitted project and seeing a bug D:
That's supposed to say agility races, I naively thought I had fixed most of the bugs
limber bear
We submitted our Epic Mega Jam 2018 entry 6 seconds before the deadline, without even making sure that multiplayer worked on the latest build
And our game was multiplayer only ๐
This year's mega jam, I'll try to beat these 6 seconds
gritty beacon
these guys have you beat
sleek rivet
haha
glass fossil
If it is not too late to stream my game and showcase it, please, please, PLEASE, give this one a chance. For any live streamers reading this.
small fern
@glass fossil BP nativization has always been iffy, it's not just 4.22
it totally depends on your content and what you do with the BPs that get nativized
some things may work fine but most people I know that tried that feat along the years have had issues with it
oblique cairn
last jam I used nativization and it worked fine - but I have had issues with it in the past
Also, here is a version of my game that should work for rift users: http://chozabu.net/stuff/EdgelessChill.zip
(Thanks to @wet rivet for suggestion on alternate way to capture HMD motion ๐ )
small fern
I have one project where nativization worked just fine
and other where it breaks in all directions ๐
oblique cairn
I guess this is one of the reasons why there are inclusive/exclusive options for nativization
small fern
yup
I tend to avoid BPs for anything but prototyping anyway
(jams go under prototyping)
oblique cairn
I am happy with BP for just about anything not performance-critical myself
oblique cairn
that is sure creative use of theme ๐
ionic yarrow
I really wanted someone to make a game that is a crafting/building game where you play as dracula and you're a craftsman. it could be call " Make it, Count" that was my original game idea hahah
west wing
@ionic yarrow taken.
compact cedar
@limber bear hmm...but link is broken...probably will scored as 0
limber bear
well ya, it is a meme submissions afaik
ionic yarrow
@west wing whats taken? I said i wanted someone else to make it! does that mean it exists?!?! send me links !
omg i found it! yay someone did do it! i'm so happy!
west wing
ionic yarrow
hahah yes! not exactly what i was imagining but at least they used dracula and the name!
glass fossil
@small fern
@oblique cairn
Well that is the interesting thing about nativization. The same process I tried to use for The Kamikaze, I used for Valentide! II, including the Game Jam Kit offered for free specifically for the UE4 jams. Yet, Valentide! II compiled and run perfectly with full Nativization, whereas The Kamikaze compiled fine, but failed to run on execution.
oblique cairn
@glass fossil what is the game jam kit?
compact cedar
@oblique cairn http://www.tomshannon3d.com/2018/01/game-jam-toolkit.html
small fern
it could break on anything really
I had my this jams entry (which I didn't finish) on 4.22 and I tested BP nativization on it
it did work for my content
I mean, I did actually playtest on the build
west wing
@ionic yarrow actually, the count is a craftsman here. Though the gameplay is about dealing with consequences of his own craftsmanship. So "make it" is different meaning. But still, it was close!
ionic yarrow
yeah i'm still super happy someone did it. This is actually more interesting than my dracula idea. It was thinking of a much more humorous approach
oblique cairn
@compact cedar looks interesting! Thanks
glass fossil
Let me know if anyone has tried the Kamikaze.
And let me know what you think of it.
west wing
I found that about 5MB of build size is taken by DefaultBloomKernel used in one of the bloom postprocess methods. According to the tooltip, it's even too expensive for actual use in game.
small fern
@west wing yeah, we talked about it's removal few times here ๐
you can blacklist it from build
west wing
Yeah, and it doesn't work for me.
small fern
put PakBlacklist-Shipping.txt to your discord search and look for my comment
west wing
Yeah, tried that.
west wing
For some reason, it didn't work for me.
small fern
you sure you got the relative path right inside the file?
filename exactly like that?
folder according to the build type?
also do note that txt name only works for shipping build
west wing
I'll retry everything again, just to be sure.
@small fern and it does work. I'm glad I tried again.
My issue was I was using wrong folder, probably common mistake.
small fern
it is
that folder for windows builds isn't even documented anywhere
had to find out the exact naming convention by peeking into source code
docs only got android example
west wing
Also looks safe to exclude, it doesn't result in any error if you try to use FFT bloom in game, it just won't work.
small fern
I usually exclude most of the engine content
but that bloom kernel is the biggest file
this is what I had in mine:
../../../Engine/Content/EngineMaterials/DefaultBloomKernel.uasset
../../../Engine/Content/EngineMaterials/DefaultBloomKernel.uexp
../../../Engine/Content/EngineDebugMaterials/*
../../../Engine/Content/EngineFonts/*
../../../Engine/Content/Maps/*
../../../Engine/Content/MobileResources/*
../../../Engine/Content/Tutorial/*```got 32bit 4.22 empty template to ~61 megs with that I think
I also exclude editor content on the packaging settings
west wing
My workaround until now was hacking the actual asset in engine by reimporting downscaled 128px version of it. You may notice how it affects the bloom by looking on my screenshot above: everything is blurry if "Convolutional" blooom is used in PP. Still, the intended solution wasn't broken as I thought, and it changes a lot.
@small fern Thanks for the list, BTW. The checkbox was never useful for me.
small fern
I think the checkbox removes all default engine content, like meshes and materials
not 100% sure anymore
I usually redo the primitives anyway as the engine ones don't have UVs
west wing
It also warns you that things might break if you use content. So I thought it should remove stuff like bloom kernel as well. It's a texture asset, and it's being used.
small fern
you can slim some extra MB if you also remove the skysphere
but it's not as huge as it used to be
especially the night star texture is tiny now
it used to be huge
pine fulcrum
small fern
don't quote me on that last line pls
west wing
@small fern just got that "~61 megs 32 bit build" too.
small fern
there's still room to slim it tad more
west wing
40 mb with upx compression of engine executable.
analog walrus
I switched to the forward render after the jam ended and mine looks much better with msaa. I suspected it would but didn't want to risk breaking it before the jam
west wing
Yes, except the plugin browser.
west wing
It slimed about 2 megs from engine built binary.
small fern
like, really really don't like it
analog walrus
It depends on the models for me.
small fern
issue with forward is that you don't get SSR with it.. if you need it
analog walrus
anything that has strong contrast and definied lines looks much better in my opinion
small fern
forward exists in UE4 only because of VR
analog walrus
nevermind
small fern
and ssr doesn't really work on vr
small fern
SSAO used to be deferred only in ue4 as well
but they added support for forward few versions back
analog walrus
@small fern I thought SSAO wasn't there anymore
small fern
?
analog walrus
I saw a build for it but it looked like it hadn't been updated
ugh, nevermind
I am really off today and mixing up acronyms
small fern
issue with unreals screenspace effects is tho is that they rely heavily on TAA to smooth the noise
this applies to SSAO as well
so it's bit noisy on forward shading if you don't use TAA
west wing
This TAA opacity convolution thing is pretty unbearable with low fps or on low dpi screens, to be honest.
analog walrus
When I want really crisp[ lines like for a 2D game or really defined geometric shapes that kind of thing is when I switch to the forward rendering
small fern
well, TAA and low refresh rate is poison
it relies on getting almost same data from previous frame
same thing if you got fast moving objects in the scene
can I link my old TAA vs MSAA comparison once again? ๐
west wing
Sure!
analog walrus
I want to see it
small fern
this is how TAA was on 4.15
and this is how MSAA was on it
that case is specifically made so that it fails hard on TAA
you get better results on current engine versions
but there's still some ghosting
small fern
probably yeah
this is TAA on 4.19
you can see they got rid of the bright ghosting but shadows issue is still there
so the model itself doesn't bleed anymore
west wing
The car is faster now.
small fern
sure there are some differences on the takes
I didn't have the original project stored since it's just a template
explains minor differences on the materials too
first ones had unlit material where that latter gif doesn't
but it does show the actual ghosting issue well
it only happens that bad if you got specifically noisy ground material there
like that one