especially ones where people have fucking frame rate dependent movement
#game-jam-chat
pine fulcrum
wet rivet
Another fun idea would have been one of those desert island games where it’s like “you can only take 3 things”
Might be a bit out of scope with how many mechanics you would need to program for a game jam though
small fern
well, if my entry sucks otherwise, at least it's somewhat deterministic across computers now 😄
unless some bug creeps in and destroys it
warm bloom
I might end up not having enough time to finish all the animations but the material reminds me of Majin Buu
or Gum
small fern
that should totally just be a hand 😄
warm bloom
I've gotten that a lot, maybe you're right. I got Thing from Addams Family vibes from people while I was modeling it.
there was a game last jam you played as a hand and it was a finalist xD
I was going for amorphous Face Hugger in a cute way
Trying to animate it walking like a spider has been a journey
glad wing
that’s exactly the vibe it has, haha
it’s cute but I don’t want to know what happens if I get near it
polar totem
one night learning and still cant make anything except UI sigh
limber bear
@fallow lion nice work, altho when the character swings from the left, shouldn't the enemies bob to the right
analog walrus
So is it correct that I can submit now, and keep updating up to the deadline and the final upload, as long as it's before the deadline, will be what is judged?
limber bear
Its a nit pick sorry, for a game jam it is awesome
fallow lion
@limber bear understand perfectly but for a gamejam there is other priorities at moment
analog walrus
I haven't written menu handling in a while, redoing it for the jam I realized I could do it a lot simpler than I had been
Do you think we need a video and audio options panel? I'm a little on the fence about whether to spend time on it
Graphics from above, tinted in UI
glad wing
I would prioritize gameplay over menus
I’m making myself get all the gameplay stuff working before I do the art
analog walrus
I only spent an hour on menus, maybe less.
glad wing
related: gameplay stuff is kinda working 😃 https://twitter.com/mahalis/status/1160322874902601728
analog walrus
Looks fun, I'd go nuts with things to smash
glad wing
that’s the plan—your other ability besides launching yourself through walls is smacking stuff with your briefcase 😛
gonna fill the place with office props
hardy rune
Thanks @analog walrus !
analog walrus
Anybody know a quick and easy high score system. Like a web page or server to host scores that the game can get scores from and upload scores to?
easy being relative
analog walrus
thanks looing at it now
hardy rune
But the most update version is for 4.20
hardy rune
Hahahaha
glad wing
4.20 wasn’t that long ago—does it still work?
hardy rune
the engine or the plugin? lol
analog walrus
I t looks like there's not much to it. I just went through the code. I might leave it until tomorrow when I start fresh and give it a go.
glass fossil
@glad wing let me know if you want any sound stuff for the walls i got something
wet rivet
I think every time I've spelt the word "Frissbbee" in this this jam I've managed to spell it a different way
tulip viper
space bear is ready!
scarlet lotus
Do I need to declare engine content like the sky sphere I customized when I submit?
analog walrus
I don't know. I used a sprite from engine content and edited it for a particle and listed it. Better safe than disqualified
scarlet lotus
Fair enough, no real downside to listing it I guess
fallow lion
some air sprint
glass fossil
lol I love the animation
analog walrus
Time to start focusing on the finish line.
stable kiln
so, did that showreel with all the jamgames from last jam get an upload to youtube? couldnt find it
near cairn
@analog walrus hey bro where do I list the contents I used ?
Is there a limit or such?😬
I have already used it for a medium sized exploration type level 😶
stable kiln
you list it on itch submission, looks good
sage edge
@fallow lion , horsie can' t keep up with you 😉
carmine kindle
Is there anyone foolhardy enough to attempt a playthrough stream of all the games this time?
small fern
@carmine kindle
carmine kindle
Ah cool
final arch
welp, decided to no longer ignore the build light for x amounts of objects needed notification, now every non ue4 mesh is pitch black
Well thats weird, selecting all and scale up by one then down by one fixed the issue...
welp not really, rebuild light again and it btoke
vapid thistle
Did you make the meshes yourself?
final arch
Yeah, the look like their normals are off but it worked fine a little while ago. I am knew to this whole thing so maybe i missed something
vapid thistle
Was this the first time you built lighting?
final arch
i wanna say no, but probably yes
vapid thistle
I think that someone in this chat said something about adding a uv map to the meshes or they would go black
I'm not sure if it was a uv map, but I think it was
carmine kindle
Yeah, you need lightmap UVs for baked lighting
final arch
I'll look into that thanks
stable kiln
just go full dynamic light 😛
final arch
the lightmap uv is a real pain in the buttocks with a complex set of meshes, it now says 97% of my uv's are overlapping, whoops
But as i understand i could ignore baking the light and go full dynamic (which would probably take a big performance hit)?
carmine kindle
It's fine most of the time, if you don't have too many shadow casting lights
final arch
Only a directional light and the skybox (but this does not seem to cast a light in itself)
stable kiln
yea but i assume you dont have battlefield type asets and judges run this on like super computers 😛
final arch
Well that's it then. I'll break my head over these light maps another time , time is precious
stable kiln
some devs play em too, but overall these low time spend games run on some top end hardware 😛
final arch
Well its not like i'm recreating the sixteenth chapel over here
stable kiln
sixteenth chapel is full dynamic light 😛
stable kiln
exact same mesh and exact same material
4.19 vs 4.22
this fbx only import is getting pretty retarded
think ill stop this Jam this is just stupid, only import fbx that is actively tryin to down blender
wanton furnace
the textures look different tho
stable kiln
its imported diffrent from the same fbx
and it still shouldnt make the face all black its in the right location
compact cedar
https://gyazo.com/843714d81a06e34955906646908b32c1
Character generator
wanton furnace
did you make sure you exported them in the exact same settings from blender ?
stable kiln
1 export, import in 2 UE4 versions. yea im sure
oblique cairn
can we support vive-only for VR?
compact cedar
@oblique cairn for jam does not matter
oblique cairn
Thanks for the info 😃
Trying to enter all 3 special cats, and cutting occulus libs seems like a small, but good extra step
compact cedar
oh, solo vr under 100?
iirc we managed to make vr submission for oculus and htc just for 65 megs
oblique cairn
Yes 😃
compact cedar
sadly there was no under 100 cat that time
oblique cairn
I'm under 100mb, but want to clear a bit more space, main things that stand out to me at the mo are:
defaultbloomkernel.exp (32MB)
%GAMEue4.exe (40MB)
compact cedar
bloom kernell ahhhah
oblique cairn
though, not sure the bloom kernel is in the PAK build (or it is well compressed), the main game binary really seems to be biggest thing left, but unsure if anything can be done about it
compact cedar
you need bloom in vr game?
oblique cairn
I don't, I have it disabled in project settings too
clever barn
@oblique cairn I was trying to enter the 3 categories too but my coding knowledges make me drop the AR part at day 2, still got some hope for the 100mb ^^
oblique cairn
I'm down to 82mb, half of that is the game binary, sure more can be shaved off in a couple of places, but may have to leave it for now, and worry if I get back up to 100mb
https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Engine/Performance/ReducingPackageSize/index.html covers most of what I've done
also unticked include redistrib and crash reporter in project settings (though, those can prob be deleted after build fine)
I'd love to know if there is a way to reduce main binary size
tulip viper
space bear!!!
small fern
@oblique cairn bloomkernel is there and blacklisting it will save 4 MB
(it's 32MB uncompressed)
oblique cairn
@small fern good news! Happen to know how to blacklist it? (from starting to look around, I'm thinking it needs a txt file in build/win folder, or perhaps something in project settings)
tulip viper
So, i had a thought, but wanted to see waht anybody else thought....
what if we made our game ONLY playable once... ever....
could be annoying, but would make the theme perfect 😛
oblique cairn
@tulip viper I'd thought about that (well, actualy the game locks up only if you die - 1 life) but don't think I'll go for it...
tulip viper
yeah
oblique cairn
unless perhaps I am not happy enough with the game, or theme connection 😄
tulip viper
lmao
small fern
@oblique cairn yes, I know 😃
oblique cairn
oh good, I tried adding it to a file \Build\WindowsNoEditor\PakBlacklist-Shipping.txt but seems I am doing something wrong
small fern
have folder <project folder>/Build/Win32 or Win64, depending on your buildtype, put PakBlacklist-Shipping.txt in it and ../../../Engine/Content/EngineMaterials/DefaultBloomKernel.uasset ../../../Engine/Content/EngineMaterials/DefaultBloomKernel.uexp inside the file
oblique cairn
Ah, I'll try that path - thanks 😃
glad wing
lessons in not trying to mess with your skeleton while working on animations: https://twitter.com/mahalis/status/1160574308768346112
oblique cairn
@small fern Perfect! I'm down to 76MB! Time to fill that space up with some levels and whatnot 😃
tulip viper
we ready for space boys and girls!
oblique cairn
Damn, name I was gonna use is already taken "UBERCOLD"
desert pecan
trying to share my character wip and it keeps getting blocked by the bot 😂
stable kiln
well UVs are really broken, this is def not user error
guess ill update 4.23 and try that
tulip viper
unless you are telling UE4 to do your UV's.... it would ONLY be user error
no offense
stable kiln
its blender exporter or UE4 importer
tulip viper
would assume blender, since i have no issues on Maya 😛
desert pecan
whats up with you uvs ?
stable kiln
same mesh same texture same material 1 broken
if i import to 4.19 do my material there, migrare to 4.22 its fine
how is that user error?
its zero nodes material, just 1 texture
was fine B4 i updated to 4.22.3
tulip viper
shrugs never had any issues
and i am not aware of any changes on UE4s end to import methods
stable kiln
well ive done plenty of UVs with no iisues aswell
havent actively used UE4 in a while but i can tell this is broken somehow
a migrated character should look the same as a imported one
tulip viper
shrugs good luck
glass fossil
Recording myself to make zombie crowd sounds :)
tulip viper
those are fun times
sacred wedge
Question: When listing content created before the jam. Do you have to specify assets found in the starter content? Cheers.
vapid thistle
Yep, start content needs to be declared.
But you can just say that you used starter content
You don't need to specify which individual meshes you used
sacred wedge
Perfect thank you greatly!
vapid thistle
No problem. 😃
stable kiln
final arch
@stable kiln looks like blender 2.8, since it just released maybe an easy there with exporting?
easy == issue... ots been a long day
stable kiln
the UVs in unreal seem good, there is no way his face should be black
the circle is the eye material
ive exported a lot of stuff from 2.8 allready
final arch
ah alright, I'm very VERY much a beginner but i had black exports as well today via blender 2.8. In my case it had to do with uv light mapping which i hadnt done. Maybe thats it?
stable kiln
i doubt it, this is not light build
stable kiln
there is no way this should happen, im freaking stumped
feral monolith
Going for a Wario Ware style game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHoD0R5LeX8
analog walrus
High score system done. back to game play.
desert pecan
tulip viper
asnybody know where i can modify the level streaming distance?
i want the entire island to show.. but it keeps streaming out
i have the streaming proxy's setup, but i cant find where to modify how many can be loaded
or distance from player...
vapid thistle
We appear to have a game built with Godot engine
tulip viper
well unfucked that, you have to make a layer then assign the distance 😦
very confusing, but learned something new
analog walrus
@near cairn I'm sure someone answered, but if not it's in the submission form. No limit. Just anything listed probably won't earn points.
@vapid thistle What are you talking about?
vapid thistle
This game looks like it is built with Godot engine: https://itch.io/jam/2019-summer-ue4jam/rate/467342
analog walrus
Yep
Lol. I thought you were talking about one of the posts above, and since mine was one of the last few figured I'd check what you meant.
hardy rune
lol
analog walrus
I mean, the Logo is on the game page 😃
wet rivet
Is it listed in the rules that it has to be made in unreal?
analog walrus
Umm......
analog walrus
"Make a playable Product in Unreal Engine 4 based on the theme “Make it count”. Package your project for the Windows, Mac OS X, iOS,Android, Lumin, or Oculus Mobile platform and zip up all necessary files for submission."
gritty beacon
looks like we got a galaxy brain over here lol
viral bobcat
unkempt scarab
a lot of people on itch make a game and submit it to all the game jams that are active
I'm sure they didn't make it for the UE4 jam
balmy jacinth
So I have never really been a part of the game jam scene, just out of curiosity, how many games do you think will be submitted for this? I see like 750 people are signed up, but I would imagine a large number of people wont actually make a submission (or am I being a pessimist).
compact cedar
MP takeover was nice feature. IMO it should be a general rule. Spent ~3 days making assets for the game.
oblique cairn
well, we can still use MP content
analog walrus
The prizes are really good this time around
oblique cairn
Would be nice to have a "lite" version of MP takeover rule perhaps, you still get credit for picking and making good use of assets, but not as much as making them (I guess this is already being done by judges to some degree)
analog walrus
Part of the fun is in the restrictions.
balmy jacinth
sorry I keep asking questions, I saw that someone submitted a game for ios, is there a way to try that out on a windows pc?
vale mason
does anyone have issues seeing models showing up with no effect of Ambient Occlusion? (I'm using u4e v.4.20), does it require enabling some shaders (post process volumes) or some hidden settings for some effect. I just want to use SSAO. I could literaly see its effect from material editor if I plug a combination of a [AO texture] & a [Color (3- constant; param)] mixed by a Multiply node and have it output to the Base color input of main material. The reason I'm asking this is few things: 1. I don't really see the Ambient Occlusion showing up when its connected as its designed to be. (even examining Starter content materials; barely any change of effect..)
balmy jacinth
I figured out my question 😃
vale mason
and 2. (accidently send message): I just want to follow it through that AO should be noticeable without resorting to some alternative node-salad (resource heavy down the road)
@wet rivet Are you using leap motion for your project?
wet rivet
No, oculus controllers
analog walrus
Just finished the last big system for the game. Now I can focus on level redesign and gameplay entirely.
hardy rune
i'm finishing combat and there is the last major system
then, focus at making this mess beauty
analog walrus
I feel dirty from all the sloppy code I've thrown at this thing to just get stuff done.
analog walrus
You can tell which BPs I worked on at the start and which came later just by looking at the graphs
Day one:
and today:
wet rivet
oh my god
Theoretically here could you have made an array of type text and then just accessed the array at that index?
tulip viper
Still clean
analog walrus
It was like using a sledge hammer to put in a thumbtack
it should have went to c++ or installed a regex library for ascii codes, but that was like 2 minutes whith out looking anything up
vale mason
@analog walrus whynot use reroute nodes? unless it bogs down performance?
wet rivet
I don't know if you even needed to go down to C++ for that, since you're taking an int value from 0-26 so you could access an array of type text at the index of the int that's going in in the function, may not work for your situation though since I don't know what it is
and besides it's a game jam game so it doesn't matter too much
analog walrus
yeah, I jjust spent no thought on it and slammed it together
vale mason
Intellisense for nodes ..
analog walrus
I'm surprised you can read the numbers
in C++ I would have jsut used ascii values and not had to build the index of numbers to letters
if letter ascii value >90 set to 65 else set to current +1
wet rivet
ah yeah that makes sense
Currently working on "funifying" my project, the mechanics I've got are a frisbee toss, tennis ball toss, bike ride and treat eating
analog walrus
I found a function that gives you the ascii value for a text number in BP but nothing to convert an ascii value to text
wet rivet
For gamifying those, with the frisbee I was thinking point system based on catch, catch in air, and distance traveled, then for the bike ride I was thinking maybe time trialing it
Still not super sure on the treat eating and the tennis ball throw
balmy jacinth
@wet rivet I have loosely been following your progress the past couple days. Your frisbee physics looks really good. I forgot to tell you that before.
wet rivet
Thanks! I was really happy with how it turned out I'm beginning to feel a bit more comfortable with working with 3D Math
One thing that I'd like to look into implementing is the curve that it can get when it catches the air, but I do like what I've got now
balmy jacinth
this might be a stupid question, but is there a way to quickly and easily do a slow loop using blueprints? for example, When a player presses button A, a function will call every 3 seconds until they press button B. I could do it with bools and delay nodes, but I was wondering if there is an easier way
tulip viper
Add a wait
wet rivet
I think this'd do it
balmy jacinth
ah thats smart ok thanks
wet rivet
So what's happening there is after you press the first button you call your function, the function executes what you want it to do and then after 3 seconds it calls itself again
balmy jacinth
I was trying to use a do-while loop
wet rivet
I may be wrong with this but I've had for loops ignore delays in the past
balmy jacinth
it was ignoring the delay, that was my problem
I fixed it by using a bool that stoped the loop till the delay finished
analog walrus
@balmy jacinth Use timer by event
balmy jacinth
you way works perfect for my needs, thanks
wet rivet
Timer by event also works well
balmy jacinth
Ive never heard of that (new to unreal kinda)
wet rivet
There's kind of a whole bunch to program something
analog walrus
It's basicly a tick tthat you can turn off/on and control how long between each call
if you set the timer to 0 it stops it.
balmy jacinth
Oh that's really cool. Ill remember that for the future. Its a little more then I need at the moment, but thanks for sharing 😃
vale mason
is creating custom events the way of making finite state machines?
wet rivet
I'm possibly going to have this project wrapped up by tomorrow so I am going to spend the entirety of the last day working on this dog model
IT WILL IMPROVE!
Honestly I've spent so much time looking at it at this point that I'm starting to love it
vale mason
how about dog editor, let users customize and shape the dog
wet rivet
Would that make it better?
vale mason
dogphin
wet rivet
Take your dolphin to the park
tulip viper
i like it!
im still making a fucking dropship, which the players sees for a wopping 3 seconds
lol
damn anal retentiveness
if it makes youf eel better it looks like a duck 😛
wet rivet
Whenever I see the art reels that people make it shocks me that people are so good at working in a 3D space
wet rivet
I can do hard surface but like not good hard surface
tulip viper
thats in part, why i do jams, to challenge my skills and do things i dont normally do
and it has a time limit, so i cant slow roll it
wet rivet
I do them solely for the glory - no intent on improving myself at all
It’s super nice to have that pressure to challenge yourself though, I’ve probably spent more time in blender in this jam than ever before
Kept me making new things and learning more which I really like
tulip viper
hehe
analog walrus
@tulip viper I like it.
wet rivet
See now those are some cute character models, they look great!
The drop ship inside reminds me of the PUBG plane
tulip viper
😛
vale mason
PUBG -> PUPG
wet rivet
PUG-G?
vale mason
that'll do
balmy jacinth
I love your dog, I don't think it needs to change. Its really quite charming.
Someone made a submission that requires you pay to view it lol
glass fossil
music for a fighting level in the game im helping on 😃
enjoy the interstellar vibes
tulip viper
lol my plan of what i want, and the time left do not align
so is the curse of the jam
carmine kindle
My plan is to leave art to the end, so I can ultimately resort to drawing stick figures if I have no time for anything else left 
wet rivet
god I suck at UI
trying to make it not increase in size based on the text
So the white bars would stay at a constant spot
desert pecan
just about to hit submit !!!!
analog walrus
Just did my last play through of the testing level. Most of the stuff is tuned, time to start building the final levels.
wet rivet
whoo! congrats to both of you
balmy jacinth
grats
keen crown
art goes first for me as i'm learning both ue4 (again after years) and want to learn blender properly.
so shaders + modeling + rigging + physics > game ... atm
not like i'd have made it if i didn't make the assets.
but retopo be slow a f
for me at least
desert pecan
just realised its not the 13th and I panic uploaded....😂 😂 ah well time for sleep 😫
ionic yarrow
@desert pecan any issues uploading?
desert pecan
no everything went fairly smooth actually
ionic yarrow
I’ve never done it before. Anything a complete fool like me could manage to mess up?
desert pecan
my first time too, you should be fine once you go to upload a game it makes a page that acts as a draft so when your typing out your stuff or uploading things you can double check it and save things ect before making it public was good
wet rivet
I'm trying to do basic bubble sort in blueprints and it's making my headspin
scarlet lotus
For some reason I thought the deadline was in ~12 hours
wet rivet
I could do it in C++ pretty quick but for the nodes thinking about repeating logic is weird
scarlet lotus
Hype that we have more time
balmy jacinth
how many numbers are you sorting? I might have an idea on how to do it if its not many
wet rivet
It's just 3, I think I've got it working now
balmy jacinth
oh ok cool!
So I have a question if anyone is willing to help. Ive been fighting with this for like 3 hours now and I dont know what I am doing wrong.
wet rivet
Go ahead
balmy jacinth
I have some simple 2d sprites that I made in Photoshop and for some reason when I import the .psd file, unreal adds this really weird outline to it.
I have an example I made with a test file
so image 1 is the file in photoshop, if you zoom in to the pixel level like image 2, you can see it should be solid black outline, but in unreal, its adding that weird ghost thing
balmy jacinth
yes
desert pecan
@balmy jacinth if you send over the file your importing in I could have a quick try to some sollutions
balmy jacinth
One sec let me remake it
glass fossil
I always find that gamejams/ collabs make me think of things id like to do after its over.
balmy jacinth
Test File for 2d
glass fossil
Unfortunately tonight was the last time i can help on my teams game, i am back to work tomorrow and taking a trip so no more game jammin
Been fun though, being the dedicated sound guy on a project was nice, plenty of time and space for me to design and implement how i wanted to
desert pecan
if you open the texture and in the details under texture tab change the filter to nearest and that fixes it
balmy jacinth
wow, I never even thought to check texture settings, I did not see it doing a border on the texture part, so I just assumed my issue was when it translated it to a sprite
do you happen to know WHY switching to filter fixes it? I'm still learning graphic related stuff
desert pecan
absolutely no idea maybe its good for blending like vfx sheets or somehting.
wet rivet
I'd love some sort of intermediate between C++ and blueprints for math
No clue what it would look like or how it would work but running nodes all over the place is a bit rough, and i try to keep my BPs fairly clean
balmy jacinth
couldnt you just make the function in C++ and make it a ufunction with exposure to blueprints?
wet rivet
Then I'd have to make my whole project C++
Something that'd be flush with the BP UI
I dunno, I could just be complaining for the sake of complaining since there are ways to make it easier
balmy jacinth
this is a little thing, but have you tested out using subsystems any? they added them in one of the more recent updates, and its super handy for keeping Blueprints looking nice
I use them for complicated calculations and handling variables that need to be accessed everywhere.
Keeps me from using casting nodes all over the place.
wet rivet
Do you have a link for that? I haven't heard of it
balmy jacinth
There is very little I have been able to find on it. https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Programming/Subsystems/index.html
@desert pecan I forgot to tell you thank you. So Thank you 😃
wet rivet
I'll take a look into it, thanks
balmy jacinth
no prob
polar totem
a game with only one genre is the worse and a game with multiple genre is the best
analog walrus
Anyone want to take a look at my test level and see if they have any suggestions for anything that might be good to add before I start working on the levels?
or just general thoughts?
I can DM a YouTube link
keen crown
so the deadline for upload is later than the end of the jam
ought it was tuesday 5am CEST
analog walrus
11:59 Pm EST whatever that is for you.
keen crown
:/ fuq i only took vacation till tomorrow not wednesday
oh well another day to code... so maybe my game might be something
😃 and now i can actually design some props to make my lifeless scene look less dead
marsh oxide
hm... what are the special categories in this jam ? i'm just starting now 😄
wet rivet
I am an idiot omg
@marsh oxide
I created a variable I was using to check if my scoreboard was sorted as a global variable, not a local variable
I have spent 30 minutes going over every part of this code trying to figure out where the bug is
Like I could hand write each node from memory at this point
And the solution was so simple
Damn you occam's razor
I mean I am advanced stupid how did I not see this
radiant badger
My final submission for the game jam
wet rivet
I think that mainly comes from art assets
@radiant badger congrats on getting it submitted 😄 imma make sure to check it out after the jam
radiant badger
@polar totem it is highly blueprint heavy. there are a lot of functions for movement, hud, and menus
@wet rivet thanks 😃 I look forward to seeing what you submit. i saw some of the submissions already, and their looking good. I wish you all the best of luck 😃
wet rivet
Quick reminder to everyone, make sure to do some test packages on your project
wet rivet
If I remove 64 MB of content I could go for the triple threat of Solo Dev, VR, under 100 MB
analog walrus
and army of one?
I've checked them all but XR
nevermind, late and tired, ugh solo same thing
Not deleting that , I live with the shame
wet rivet
haha, yeah I think it's impossible for me to go under 100mb though since I'd have to disable oculus
I'm really starting to love my project, I hope I have time to improve the dog model
analog walrus
Same here , I'm really surprised how well it's turning out and it's a lot of fun.
wet rivet
Tomorrow I think I'm going to add in all of the sounds, do the game part of the frisbee, polish up the other 2 mini games and then hopefully just have Tuesday to make it good
Spoilers for those who plan on playing my game: ||I'm doing this thing where it's the last day before you go off to your college and you have to beat the records that other people have set, there's a bit more of a story to it but that's the TL;DR||
hardy rune
the under 100mb special category
I can only send the executable or do I need to send the entire folder with the requisites?
Supposing every judge has UE4 installed
wet rivet
I'd say DM them on discord for that one
keen crown
in older jams it was the executable (all files in the build) only.
idk if you still need to strip some parts out of the engine to get sub 100mb
wet rivet
Should I keep the puns in? 👍 for yes, 👎 for no
cerulean wren
i still thinking about the theme
my idea is not completed...i want to do something simple and online with a plugin i'm making
carmine kindle
TIL that Corel Painter has no auto-save functionality at all. And I also lost 30 minutes worth of work, yay.
stable kiln
must fun thing about itch analytics is what search terms ppl use
had a few really strange ones
makes sense those ppl end up on my page in a way tho
oblique cairn
unreal engine still goes a bit mad with ragdoll at extreme time dilations
Guess it is a feature (though, less so with other physics)
oblique cairn
I think it helps - but not enough (with a time dilation of ~0.01 ragdolls seem to accelerate)
I think this happens with any PhysicsConstraint to a lesser degree
Changing time dilation in smaller steps seems to help
quick vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTBvzxwU4gs
I think ragdolls on the right had gone to sleep, otherwise theyd float off too.
Right at the end of the vid I disable slowmo (it interps off)
sharp peak
has anyone encountered when packaging their game, it opens the documentation in the browser instead of triggering a build?
it worked when packaging with no changes, then adding a new blueprint actor and packaging, just opens the browser. Using 4.23 preview
stable kiln
i dunno preview basically says : here be dragons 😛
sharp peak
found the error message: "LogWindows: LaunchURL http://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/INT/Engine/Tutorial/Installation/InstallingVisualStudioTutorial.InstallingVisualStudioTutorial/index.html". Just confirmed, my VS install is on a drive that has been corrupted. Repairing the disk now and if that fails, will re-install
the hyperlink being opened doesn't navigate to an actual page, so it just lands on the documentation home page. Will open a ticket for that
sharp peak
repairing the disk and a reboot, Windows now can launch Visual Studio. Restarting the engine, and now I've successfully packaged my game
solid abyss
teaser for the game we are doing for the jam:
can anyone guess.. what is it about ? and what might be in it ?
sharp peak
the Sandbox level of my submission
clever barn
@solid abyss A narative game about a talk with someone dying ?
rapid adder
@sharp peak Looks good, and animation looks satisfying. Just the force of the arrow may be a bit too high ^^
clever barn
@sharp peak that's your assets ? that look clean !
sharp peak
@clever barn Those are not my assets, those are free assets from the Store (Paragon/Infinity Blade). Using them just for prototyping and will replace them before submission
@rapid adder Totally agree, that's an explosive arrow that is the default on the sandbox level. The game is basically multiple levels consisting of enemies (similar to Hitman), and all you ever have is a single arrow. You have to assassinate all enemies in the level
stable kiln
might wunna keep em in and make em fit 😃
sharp peak
@stable kiln Can I submit with free assets from Marketplace? I assume I just disclose which assets I used as pre-existing assets
sharp peak
@stable kiln lol, you just relieved a whole lot of stress
clever barn
Just dont forget to tell it in the description, but if it help you be better on more valuable concepts, yes you should. 😉
stable kiln
yea, some ppl on itch actually try these games, might wunna keep that in mind more than the rating
try make it worth the install
clever barn
My concept to make children crazy so far... 😮
It's a "Simon" like game, with numbers, shapes, colors and languages possibly mixed. 😉
sharp peak
@clever barn Nice. I dig the use of colors
@fallow lion really digging the low poly knight
rapid adder
@fallow lion Looks like a lot of fun, really like the short stops when pushing them aside 😄
Really sell the impact
clever barn
It's a "Simon" like game, with numbers, shapes, colors and languages possibly mixed. :p
fallow lion
thx guys, hope the game is fun at the end
clever barn
@fallow lion Well, that look nice for now 😉
rapid adder
@clever barn You can edit your messages when hovering over it on the far right is a context menu : )
civic dock
Morning folks! How's the jam going?
Don't forget to make sure your game packages and runs successfully! ✨
stable kiln
lol i just started my 1st package 😛
still dunno if i get anything decent to submit tho
vapid thistle
I've decided in the future I'm going to leave multiplayer games alone in game jams
final arch
I actually turned mine into a 4 player couch game just so i don't have to write any ai 😄
clever barn
@final arch That mean you requiered friends to try your game ? >< As requierment to play it's almost more limitating that an Occulus ! :p
final arch
There are some great local multiplayer only games out there and a lot of fun with friends, But ai could be possible but not within my timeframe for the jam
stable kiln
make sure you add it on itch, some ppl use coop as filter
get some of them free indy coop off itch when a friend comes over
radiant badger
@wet rivet that reminds me, what can I delete from the content (like the starter content folder) for assets I'm not using
@keen crown so does the executable have to be under 100mb? Or does all the contents of the packaging have to be under 100mb?
stable kiln
@radiant badger on package it should just include what you use
radiant badger
Is there a way to remove the "WindowNoEditor" folder during packagem
civic dock
Just rename it before submitting.
stable kiln
why? every1 loves windows no editor 😛
civic dock
Unreal names the directory after the platform you packaged to.
radiant badger
so it would be safe to just rename it windows?
civic dock
If that's what you want. I usually rename it to the name of the project before distributing it online.
It depends on how your local dev environment is setup too, how you organize your folders, etc.
small fern
you don't have to even have that folder
just zip things inside it
@radiant badger
this jam went like previous jams for me, I implemented tech, but no content 😄
I still like my idea tho
radiant badger
ok that makes more sense now. thanks guys
gritty beacon
does the packaged build have to contain the prereq installer in the zip file when aiming for the under 100mb category?
because that thing is huge and incompressible
it takes up like 40% of the allowed size by itself
vapid thistle
I don't believe that it is required, at least it wasn't required for previous jams. But I would still check with judges, just to be on the safe side
small fern
@gritty beacon definitely not
I mean, you can't even realistically fit the game and content under 100 megs if you need prereq
gritty beacon
depends, not every game needs ginormous textures :o
sleek rivet
😍
small fern
@gritty beacon I'm more interested on how much that is unzipped
gritty beacon
130 currently
small fern
as that's what counts afaik for the 100mb category
gritty beacon
under 100mb unzipped is literally impossible, that's full with just the binary + engine content you can't remove
small fern
it's not
but definitely challenging with that prereq :p
I got my older gamejam entry to 75MB unzipped
and it got few textures and many minutes of audio 😃
gritty beacon
yeah that doesn't seem possible to me
small fern
I got 4.22 packaged for this jam without extra content to ~60mb
that's 40 mb of content left
gritty beacon
the binary starts at 48MB and there's a 30MB bloom kernel in the engine content, how'd you remove it?
small fern
blacklist the bloomkernel
altho it's just few megs with compressed pak that you save by removing it
and win32 shipping build is smallest
@gritty beacon put PakBlacklist-Shipping.txt to discord search and look at my comment for it
gritty beacon
interesting
small fern
you can blacklist other engine content as well
gritty beacon
ee wtf has pak file compression changed since the last time I used it
small fern
and from packaging settings, make sure you don't package editor content (unless you used it - which you shouldn't if you go under 100mb)
gritty beacon
just noticed it's not actually doing anything because the new compression format field isn't filled in
small fern
it does work
gritty beacon
that'll be why it's so big
small fern
nah
it works
try without it and you'll see
the new fields are there just if you want to use 3rd party compressor
fallow lion
last ability "i think" 😄
gritty beacon
there we go now it's under 100mb unzipped
final arch
@fallow lion You're a one man team?
fallow lion
2 man
final arch
Still incredible, it look so smooth
final arch
Wow, i absolutely love the main character. It reminds me of something though du you guys wanna share your inspiration for the character?
final arch
Hahah, i just love it and can't wait to see/play the final game
fallow lion
I hope the gameplay will be fun in the end
glad prism
oh man that's a beautiful art style
final arch
quick question: Should a ps4 controller work when connected with windows 10 or does it still require third party software?
Just for testing gamepad control sheme
clever barn
@stable kiln It's not precised that the game has to be free ! ^^ He will sold at least one for the jury ! 😉
Their is also a game that been add to itch.io one year ago (it's the one not free)
Just have to look for the feed
carmine kindle
I don't think that particular one is really going to make the top 3 either way
Oh wow, I didn't even read the part with the sweepstakes bit
clever barn
Good idea, let's go back to work, I'm already 1 day late on my schedule ! 😒
vapid thistle
I'm rather off my schedule too
scarlet lotus
I never bothered coming up with a schedule so I can't be late
Work is putting a dent into my gamedev time
Excited to actually have something to submit this time! It's my second game jam, and the first one never got to a stage where it was ready enough.
glass fossil
What work do you do?
scarlet lotus
Write code for drones and fly them
Has a VR game ever been a finalist before?
It seems like a pain for them to setup a playthrough for the livestream honestly
clever barn
I dont have schedule neither, but the last day was suppose to be only polishing and play tests, and it will be more than just polishing ! ^^
Especialy if I make an AR version as i wish... 😒
scarlet lotus
Interesting, what kind of game are you working on if you don't mind me asking?
tranquil matrix
@balmy jacinth @wet rivet FYI, I'm planning a future livestream dedicated to Subsystems
clever barn
Just a simple "Simon say", with hardcore options :p Quite basic but I have to put some efforts on my assets so it work well
scarlet lotus
Ah, cool! Seems like it would be a good fit for AR so I hope you get around to it
clever barn
Model is here, logic code is done, right now I'm configuring my click to respond the logic.
The problem is that last time i used UE it was almost 2 years ago, and It was for a very simple project ^^
tranquil matrix
@scarlet lotus I have no problems setting up the livestream studio to play a VR game on the stream. I've done two streams with VR equipment already 😃
It might get a bit tricky with Oculus Quest, but as long as the screen sharing works as intended we should be able to make it work.
desert pecan
once youve submitted you can still change your game yeah before deadline ?
tranquil matrix
@desert pecan Correct
I always suggest submitting one build early. It allows you to fill out the submission form and gather all the information for it before the deadline is over.
clever barn
@desert pecan Even after the dead line, but let the "on time version" available to download (for juging) and tag the new one "PostJam"
desert pecan
ok sweet
anyone got any good resources to learn how to make an end game if score reaches a certain amount I've been learning BPs as I go with this jam and I cant seem to work that out everything I've made crashes or instantly wins lol
actually I might just do a game countdown timer
scarlet lotus
@tranquil matrix Awesome, glad to hear it! I saw that last jam the VR game was pre-recorded so I figured it was more hassle than it was worth with so many people in the studio
@desert pecan I'd recommend creating a "end game" event in your blueprints and having the score keeper trigger that event
desert pecan
I think I got it actually I think yesterday I was overcomplicating it and kept trying to do it in the level blueprint instead of in the gamemode thanks
scarlet lotus
Sure thing, glad you got it working
final arch
Hi guys, Regarding a timeline i kinda expected the finished node to trigger when i triggered the stop node, but this does not seem to be happening? Is it supposed to work that way ?
oblique cairn
@final arch have you set the timeline length correctly? I've before assumed it would finish on the last point I put in it - but it needs the time set in seconds at the top of the timeline
**reread your message - no idea about triggering the stop pin
Though you could put a sequence node before it, and link to the node you run after finish
final arch
Yeah got that going for now as a "work around" atleast it feels like a workaround
oblique cairn
I'd guess finish is only when the timeline reaches the end, not when stopped before finishing
final arch
Yeah its appears so, i have it on repeat however and this make sit never finish so it makes that node a bit useless 😄
oblique cairn
I often use the finished pin, but it does sound usless in your case
final arch
I guess i could make my own loop, plug the finished in the start from beginning node but with a if brach before that ?
That works like a ||hack|| charm
azure flicker
@tranquil matrix just to wanted to ask for confirmation
is it allowed to remove the prerequisites installer to make a game fit the under 100mb category?
basically that is the installer for things like directx on machines which never played an unreal game before
I assume no judges would struggle playing the game, however I wanted to make sure that making a game that could not technically run on some windows machines would be allowed
tranquil matrix
@azure flicker Yes, you're not required to have the Prereq installer for the judging. But, I would recommend to add that information to the description of the game for others who might want to play your game!
analog walrus
It's fairly hard to get under 100mb without unchecking include prerequisites in packaging options.
azure flicker
@tranquil matrix awesome, thanks!
btw you wouldn't happen to know if there is a way to provide the same installer separately?
tranquil matrix
@clever barn You can't submit anything to the jam post-deadline, but you can upload another build on your profile if you'd like to update it between deadline and winners announcement (uploads will be turned back on once we've announced the winners)
@azure flicker I was actually going to figure out if that's the case, I'm not sure myself
azure flicker
@tranquil matrix I think I've found it: open your engine installation folder, then go > engine > extras > redist > en-us > and inside there you'll find the installer
gritty beacon
@tranquil matrix is it allowed to repack the exe for 100mb?
scarlet lotus
Woo, work was slow so I got off early. Back to the gamedev grind!
small fern
@gritty beacon do note that if you compress the exe, some virus scanners can flag it
so that's always risky
this happens because shady things often use these compressors to hide the malicious code from the scanners
@gritty beacon do note that if you compress the exe, some virus scanners can flag it
gritty beacon
I don't know if it's necessary yet, but for example upx -9 reduces the exe by 20MB so that's quite a bit
small fern
yeah, I got similar results when I tried it on ue4 executable
gritty beacon
only difference is it takes a few more seconds to launch
small fern
got the empty project with packed exe to ~30 megs
but because the risk of getting stuck on virus scanners, I wouldn't recommend it
it's not worth it
especially since a lot of players can download these and you don't want to get a rep for sharing malicious code 😄
gritty beacon
can you add multiple builds?
so the small one and then a normal one that is win64 like it should be + prereqs + stuff
small fern
you could have win32 and win64 builds separately, and ask to get judged on win32 build
or I dunno how the submissions work now
itchio itself lets you put multiple files
gritty beacon
I'm not really aiming for the 100mb thing, just if it happens to fit, that'd be nice
of course the challenge is to get it to exactly 100MB
wet rivet
Just started on development for the day, time to work on the delicate art of dropping stuff to make sounds
tranquil matrix
@azure flicker I don't think you're allowed to redistribute the prereq installer, but you can add instructions on how they can get it themselves
@gritty beacon What do you mean by repack? It needs to be under 100mb unzipped. You can still compress it using the setting when packaging.
small fern
it's basically visual c++ runtime redist
gritty beacon
sure, that reduces the size of the pak file, but we can also replace the exe with a smaller one
small fern
@tranquil matrix there are tools that let you compress the actual exe, how it works is that when you run the compressed exe, it uncompresses itself in the memory again and runs it from there
it will looks like any other exe
since the rules are not explicitly telling you can't use this, I'd expect it to be allowed, but I wouldn't recommend it for reasons explained before
broken stone
how much time before end of jam should I start packaging game?
broken stone
I haven't finished it yet
I mean how long does it took to package
more than hour?
keen crown
regularly till the time ends but since about 200-500 people are going to submit at the same time itch might crash like it did with GMTK
broken stone
oh
keen crown
they had to extend it to 3-4 hrs because of the site getting overloaded with requests
clever barn
The good idea is to make your Itch.io page early, you can already make the draft, and upload your package when it's ready, the earlier, always the better ^^
broken stone
Btw if I use music from internet can I still win in category of game made by one person?
keen crown
cause the first time you make it you can't post it. itch always requires you to make the draft first before releasing it publicly
dunno
making like 90% myself. rest are engine stuff.
clever barn
@broken stone Only if your game is good enouth ! ^^
keen crown
if you need a DAW use soundtrap
i suck at making music but it's easy to make a drone like bg music/sound
i should prolly make a build tonight... even if it's just a boring 5 second driving sim
vapid thistle
And we are starting our draft build for itch
oblique cairn
Think I still prefer LMMS to soundtrap (Though, sure I suck at making music more)
wet rivet
I love it when systems work together - I can upload a sound recording from my phone to my one drive then get it on my windows PC and it all happens just seemlessly
ionic yarrow
I will move my questions to the packaging channel if this question gets out of hand but i wanted to know after I'm done packaging what specifically is required to upload to itch.io. the >1GB .zip is intended to include what exactly? When packaging the output is an Engine folder, Project paks, manifest and .exe. Is that all that is require or should my .zip file include my UE4 project files as well?
oblique cairn
@ionic yarrow you only need to zip up what the packaging process spits out (folder called windowsnoeditor usually, you can rename)
ionic yarrow
a second question is the itch.io a basic browser based upload (select file, click upload) or are there any technical specifics. i should take everyone elses advice and upload early to test.
@oblique cairn - Thank you! Thats a relief. I've been busting my butt keeping my project file under a Gig
oblique cairn
I run butler using a git bash script
rm -rf EdgelessChill/
mv WindowsNoEditor EdgelessChill
butler push EdgelessChill chozabu/EdgelessChill:windows
removes size limit (though, my game is only 80mb now anyhow 😃 )
ionic yarrow
nice. is a command line upload required?
oblique cairn
I don't think butler has a GUI, unsure though
ionic yarrow
got it. i was asking are there other alteratives for upload rather than butler... checking itch.io now as well.
analog walrus
@tranquil matrix @gritty beacon Repackers are not allowed as far as I've been told by people whose knowledge I trust. Might want to verify on your own. I don't know why they'd allow them though. It's more potential for trouble than it's worth dealing with.
gritty beacon
just seems a bit weird that they'd go "try making it below 100mb... but 50mb of that is used by engine stuffs, good luck"
analog walrus
@small fern Oh , throw back to the past. UPX use to be a trojan writers best friend.
Just uncheck include prerequisites in packaging.
ionic yarrow
ok so we're talking about repackaging now not uploading to itch.io. I'm just looking for some basic upload info if anyone can quickly form an answer.
analog walrus
I'm under 80MB with a ton of stuff.
small fern
50mb for your game code and content is fine
40mb is too
the whole point of the category is to keep it down
analog walrus
Engine content is under 15MB if you hit all the settings to bring it down.
gritty beacon
wtf does this bloom kernel thing actually do considering it works just fine without it
small fern
yeah, I got mine to 14 mb
civic dock
The 30-something MB file? It's for cinematic bloom, so it's not needed for games. I wish it was excluded by default.
small fern
@gritty beacon cinematic fft bloom
gritty beacon
ah 
civic dock
Probably.
small fern
probably harder to check if it was needed
gritty beacon
lmfao
I must have accidentally reverted the config file
because the prereq thing was back on...
there we go, 65MB unzipped
wet rivet
@civic dock Do you have a link to the small project template you made? I'd appreciate it thanks 😃
civic dock
@wet rivet https://github.com/BlueVoidStudios/Nano
wet rivet
Thanks! I may end up disabling the prerequisites installer so I can include the VR plugins
civic dock
That should leave you with a little less than 20MB of headroom.
But that can go a long way because it's 20MB of compressed headroom.
ionic yarrow
are you all just banking on the >100mb category or is there something important i should know about? The jam requirements says the .zip needs to be under a gig.
am i mistaken?
analog walrus
I'm hitting all of them except XR
ionic yarrow
congrats to you thats super cool but thats not my question.
analog walrus
My game concept just fits well to the under 100MB too.
wet rivet
It's more if you can go for it why not go for it @ionic yarrow
analog walrus
I'll probbly ship this after the Jam and add mobile controls
wet rivet
Also smaller file sizes make people want to download more so there's also that
ionic yarrow
understood! Thank you @wet rivet - helpful info for the future i'm just concerned with qualifying.
analog walrus
for ios/android . It turned out a lot better than I would have expected
wet rivet
For me personally I'm probably going to do a Quest build or my project after the jam, so smaller packages are good for that as well
Happy to help 😃
analog walrus
I'll add some levels , right now it's just one main level but it's setup to allow for more to be streamed in and out
wet rivet
It's time to eat cookies and chips into my microphone solely for game development I swear
analog walrus
@ionic yarrow It's more chances to win and bragging rights.
small fern
I just like the additional challenge
analog walrus
and that
small fern
which is why I never finish
ionic yarrow
@small fern thanks.. the more info the better.
small fern
doesn't look likely this time either 😄
ionic yarrow
I was just asking other questions and everyone kept talking about packaging i was making sure i didn't miss anything specific.
small fern
I did come up with new setup for fixed timestepped physics and made a vehicle with pacejka tire model tho 😄
analog walrus
I decided to switch to physics too. SPent a bit of time messing with the substepping settings to get a good feel to it
scarlet lotus
Are we expecting the results to be announced during Thursday's livestream?
small fern
this weeks thursday?
no way
more like in 2-3 weeks
@scarlet lotus
you can't even playthrough all entries in 2 days they have
civic dock
It's usually about a month after the deadline.
small fern
unless you do it nonstop
analog walrus
How long do you think is reasonable for a playthrough to take? I only have time to do one level, which has about 5 sub sections to it, and I have control over how long on average it will take to get through it completely. This is a puzzle game and best times are recorded.
analog walrus
Last one I promise.
Every model, every texture, every particle made during the Jam.
wet rivet
I hate my own writing man
Is it possible to write something, read it back, and not find it cringy?
If so where do I learn that skill
scarlet lotus
@small fern ah makes sense, thanks
@analog walrus not a super useful answer but I'd say it depends on the content. Playtest it and tune the time based on how it feels
analog walrus
Thanks for trying at least. It's one of those , who knows kinda things. I'd idealy make a bunch of smaller multiple levels but I don't really want to deal with that in the time left for the jam.
gritty beacon
considering how many entries they have to review, if it takes more than 10 minutes that's probably a problem
wet rivet
I'm trying to decide if I want to redo the dog model or add another mechanic at the moment
I could add in an obstacle course mechanic which may be a lot of fun, it'd take a little while to program but it'd be pointing where the dog goes and also pressing a button to tell it to jump
Or I could spend a day and just figure out how 3D modeling works to redo the model
small fern
or learn sculpting 😃
you could just tweak the existing model with it
in general tho, I don't think it matters that much
wet rivet
I dunno, the existing model is pretty, ruff
small fern
probably worth more making the game more fun instead
wet rivet
Yeah that's what I'm thinking since I've only got 2 point based mechanics and 2 normal mechanics
small fern
or polish it in general
small fern
it's not a huge difference
gritty beacon
just call the character a doggopotamus and the problem is solved
ashen parcel
Dog has no nose - How does he smell? 😄
analog walrus
Like roses.
hardy rune
dude
been having a hell with simulating bones in UE4
can't find the error, but one bone interferes in the other
keen crown
brussells, ez through the mouth and eyes
still think it looks like a halfbreed of a duck doe
wet rivet
Oh jesus christ it is a duck
omg
People have been saying it looks like a duck and honestly I haven't seen it until now
gritty beacon
but does that make it a dug or a dock?
wet rivet
I'd be down to call him Dug
dawn basin
Looks like we have doe weiner!
balmy jacinth
I said it yesterday and I will say it today. I absolutely love your dog the way it is. Its your creation and you are free to change it, but If you do, can I have a copy of the original? there is something about it that makes me wanna make it my background.
balmy jacinth
lol thats kinda what I am doing.
I thouight I would have time to make some simple 2d animations and I didnt
keen crown
so instead of https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/352437497244155904/609881041502470169/unknown.png
balmy jacinth
so I am using 3-4 frame mr game and watch esque animations
thats looking really nice
keen crown
something like that i guess
glad i made a toon styled game so this will work fine
just a bit weird with the zombie noises..
WAIT since this will be a 3d model
i'll tape a speaker to the back
wet rivet
is this an improvement?
balmy jacinth
I updated the meme for you
This jam has awakened my hidden passion for VFX art. I always had other people make them for me, but I have been making particle systems and having a blast.
keen crown
👀 i'm dreading it
need to make an explosion
so t'is what im gonna be doing for the next hour or 2
... great tutorial, 'gonna show you how to make texture', shows steps of how he did it and skips making an actual texture (with dimensions and sizing) cause ' here is how you make texture, already have texture so let's move on'
upper stream
make your textures in substance painter
once you start getting the hang of it you'll wonder why you even have photoshop or gimp installed
keen crown
yeah people been telling me that on stream, but still no one answered my question. is it free now or sum cause way back when i came in contact with it it was paid only
also does substance work for sheit like this
upper stream
you could probably do that kinda stuff in substance yea
just uv map a plane to that grid
i could probably make that texture in 3-4 minutes
if not quicker
would probably take 5 minutes total including the getting the plane uv mapping the plane exporting to substance and exporting as textures
keen crown
welp guess for this i'd stick with ps
same amount of time
but ya... beats making textures like this i guess
upper stream
That and you can UDIM them and they're dynamically scalable
keen crown
upper stream
so if you want to make them 16x16 and then dynamically alter them to 8k textures with 1 click you can do that
without loss
And yea substance comes with those kinds of things in the "shelf"
prepackaged
photoshop isn't bad but it feels abnormal to me now
keen crown
ah well maybe next jam
upper stream
whenever i use it i'm just like "I wish i could see my model in real time."
keen crown
been (re-)learning ue4 and blender 2.8 and its been my undoing
anyway i have no need for high res textures (luckely)
upper stream
Yea, atm i'm really not a fan of UE4.
the editor is broken for me
It is so stuttery
my game runs fine easy peasy 100+ fps
it's the editor that is wrong for me
keen crown
haven't been able to use ue4 in 2 years + have barely touched unity.
fq regular office work
keen crown
buttery smooth, even on 100% cpu load
though if i try to interact with a slider... oh dear here we go again
upper stream
Mine is around a 2018 pc
6700k 1070 SC 16gb ddr4
This is what we're working on atm for the jam, it's just a race to get everything into the scene now
keen crown
3770k + cheapest 1060
keen crown
i went full asset before gameplay just cause
prolly more because i wanted to properly learn blender and took vacation for this jam
wanna finally make God of War VR a reality instead of an old vid on me yt's
upper stream
lmao i tried to upload an image and for some reason discord thought it was NSFW
keen crown
dat hot
keen crown
already a retopo'ed zombie in the game, shame i'll replace it with a texture
i should probably also reimport some models with the missing smoothing data if i have the time (like the fqing door)
upper stream
: D
keen crown
i'm happy that i was able to cheat some of the modeling work with making "props" in photoshop
old school fake it till you make it :）
balmy jacinth
This might sound like a stupid question, but in regards to submission, It says to list any assets we did not make. Does that include engine default things like the skysphere?
keen crown
👀
🙏 dat be a good question ... maybe something for on the forum
balmy jacinth
I just thought one of you would know the answer off the top of you head. I will ask on the forum 😃
balmy jacinth
fuck it imma just list it just in case lol
keen crown
better safe than sorry right?
only engine thing i have left is the gun anim, and first person bp (which be modified) taketh that the skybox is just default thus in engine thus not to be listed
balmy jacinth
I know, just thought it cant hurt. I would rather lose points for not making it, then get disqualified for not documenting it
keen crown
hmm would, using a picture i took of last year, count... if i take the clouds from those and add 'm as a texture.
desert pecan
you know if you can submit two games ? thinking of using the last 24hrs to challenge myself... see if I could get something out in that time.... but don't know if its allowed cause of sweepstakes ect...
keen crown
you can always do it whilst waiting for a response no?
carmine kindle
You can only make one game. Make your current one better instead if you've got time to spare. 🙃
wet rivet
Just finished a version of my game that could be submitted, feels good 😃
Gotta do some average and minor bug fixes then see if I have time to squeeze in a new mechanic and dog model - I don't think I will but I hope I can
keen crown
dat de spirit
ripe sapphire
Does anyone know the rules on using Substances or textures in the UE4 Jam? Like, if I go to gametextures and snag a texture or use a Substance, do I have to list that out as a "premade asset?"
keen crown
default textures from another software probably, yes. but those altered/made in the software I'd say no.
but you can always add those to the description just in case.
ripe sapphire
That's what I figured. I just know they said any premades won't count toward the score, so wanted to be sure it was vague before I spent my last day designing new substances so my nice textures will definitely count toward the score.
Thanks
keen crown
a regular person with a tablet, lets draw this asset digitally. me an intellectual, draw on paper, take photo and trace with a mouse (cause tablet functions poorly since win8). big brain
wanton furnace
BIG BRAIN
finally got the first playable on itch https://mad-mushroom-games.itch.io/moonlight-maze
keen crown
👀
nooks nise
welp .. went from my 3d model to this
so i'll stick this as a sticker to bunch of planks and animate it like a "stick" figure
wet rivet
@keen crown I love your art style
@wanton furnace can't wait to give it a try after the jam 😄
Realized a fun mechanic last minute, now I gotta do it - Rip improving the dog model https://clips.twitch.tv/ElatedEntertainingButterflyDoggo
keen crown
@wet rivet ty, do suq at it... also here is the thing i mean with what i'm about to do
maybe an idea for someone else whomst be behind
analog walrus
Theoretically, a finished game at this point. Not necessarily a good one. Taking a break and going to get back to it in the morning and work on polish until the last hour.
wet rivet
I didn't even notice we're past the 1 day left mark
My sleeping schedule has been so screwed up recently that I'm just keeping it screwed up at this point
analog walrus
Yep. Final push
wet rivet
I did spend 30 minutes trying to figure out why my dog isn't running up a surface with physics enabled
analog walrus
I promised my family I'd take a week off after this
wet rivet
turns out he had collisions disabled for it ]
analog walrus
I just cleared my schedule for the jam
wet rivet
I really need a checklist of things to go over that are basic and I don't check when debugging
wet rivet
I didn't even have a schedule really before the jam started so I've been enjoying it
analog walrus
I ussually use trello for that but for this just used an evernote notebook
wet rivet
Everything goes to chaos for me in 7 days though so this is a nice thing to do beforehand
analog walrus
I'm going to spend the last hour doing run throughs and set my 4 best times as the 4 top scores in the high score list by defualt
You want numbber 1 you got to beat the guy who made the game
wanton furnace
@wet rivet thank you! Looking forward for your opinion on it
analog walrus
Just finished a playthrough from start to finish on a packaged build. At the least, it's technically a complete game.
glad wing
submitted! finally. https://mahalis.itch.io/business-dynamics
carmine kindle
So little time, so much to do. Nowhere near done yet. 😀
gritty beacon
ok for like the first minute I thought you were placing bear traps lmao
wet rivet
Yeah I gotta gamify it a bit by making it rotate and also probably scaling it down
west wing
https://dl.dropbox.com/s/uj7om4z93xqlus7/2019_summer_ue4jam_makeitcount_title.mp4?dl=0
Menu teaser. And a low effort title.
wet rivet
That's a really cool loading screen with the lighting and gravestones, looks great!
west wing
Thanks. It's level geometry, I usually don't dedicate time on title screen.
wet rivet
Park is coming together
Looks a bit emptier without the arches since those are spawned in when the player starts the bike race, may fill it up a bit more with other props
west wing
@wet rivet here is easy to setup 15mb skybox asset, if you need it. I think it's free (I own it, so I only see the Download button): https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/slug/good-sky
wet rivet
Ah yeah I love that pack
I may replace the default sky kind of depends
From my understanding premade content is judged as being invisible (correct me if im wrong) so i generally try to do it myself
In other news I put subdivision modifier to 12 instead of 2 and all most crashed my pc
Looks smooth though
100 million faces
hardy rune
Gosh
At these final moments of game jam I always wish to be unemployed and have more time to work at the games
copper carbon
Remember it's a good idea to package and upload a version of your game early - also can get that submission form filled out. 😃
wet rivet
Just to double check we're able to go in and edit all the submission info after we submit via this button before the jam ends right?
wet rivet
Ok cool, thanks
carmine kindle
You can use the uploader thing there
carmine kindle
the butler thing, there's a link on the jam info page to it
rough kraken
Mmh i'm going to try
copper carbon
Here's the info on Butler: https://itch.io/docs/butler/
rough kraken
So i have to use this ?
dawn basin
No, you can also upload directly through the itch Web interface
maiden loom
not if it is over 1GB
wet rivet
I can't believe I haven't really used physics in my projects before, they're so much fun
To be honest I've always been a bit hesitant to use them since in the past I've gotten unexpected results but it makes more sense now
wet rivet
Who would have thought the hardest part of this jam is coming up with a team name
I'm thinking "DuckDogs" personally
clever barn
⏱ 12h 30mn
Got my first "working build" in AR ! Time for some hardcore polishing now ! 😃
clever barn
I never got a coloscopy but I think the pain must be close to that. 😃
In real it's not that hard if you use the preset, but I just lost a full day waiting by folowing the wrong guides with endless installs (and useless at the end....) and a few blue screen on my old laptop ^^
If you want to try, follow the Epic doc, NEVER the Google/arcore one (that make you build a custom highly instable version of the engine....)