if (dot(camdiffvec, coinforwardvec) > 0 && lastresult <= 0) otherside.mesh = randommesh() ?
#game-jam-chat
oblique cairn
desert coral
Like a match game, but you can flip the coins multiple times so you have to remember multiple "faces" per coin. That would be draining for my brain ๐
minor hemlock
well you're the one that wanted infinite sides, so RIP brain
civic dock
Maybe the other side of the coin changes depending on other actions you take.
minor hemlock
maybe the other side of the coin is locked behind microtransactions
what kind of budget do the judges have for purchasing cosmetics in game?
oblique cairn
I'd bet $0 ๐
wise apex
Otoh if they felt like it was a justified purchase, you're probably gonna win because you will have blown them away (hence them wanting to buy micro)
minor hemlock
you're not wrong ๐คฃ
oblique cairn
*Otosotc
minor hemlock
well that's a bit lewd
civic dock
Hah, wow.
craggy zodiac
Has anyone managed to start using Assembla's source control?
civic dock
civic dock
Hahah. Yeah a lot of the ideas it spits out are nonsensical.
minor hemlock
with the whipping and the spanking and the pounding, GAWSH
civic dock
I don't think my friends would be very impressed by that. lmao
minor hemlock
I wouldn't know where to spank a squid tbh
oblique cairn
where is this bot?
wet rivet
!gameidea
glass fossil
Want game ideas? Send me a DM!
minor hemlock
just dm it
wet rivet
^
minor hemlock
after about 100 game ideas you'll start to see patterns... so maybe stop around 50 ๐
glass fossil
@oblique cairn, Sent you a DM with information.
minor hemlock
too bad there isn't a VR category this jam https://imgur.com/a/r3cn4dz
civic dock
@minor hemlock Hey man, don't flip out. 
minor hemlock
I managed to flip it on its edge. that's never happening again ๐ฆ
I wasted my cool moment during initial mechanic test sigh
civic dock
Haha oh man.
minor hemlock
I think I'm gonna be spending all of friday on camera work ๐คฃ
but hey, if it feels good it plays good!
civic dock
๐
craggy zodiac
HALLELUJAH Assembla's Perforce can actually be used!!!!!!!!
biggest pain down under
civic dock
Glad you got that sorted.
slate salmon
need some opinions on this:
typically in games, you're right handed, but you still use the LMB. if im using equipment in both of my player's hands, should i maintain the LMB -> right hand, or should i swap it to left hand now?
i feel like it's intuitive to use LMB for right hand and RMB for left hand but maybe i'm alone on this
craggy zodiac
@slate salmon if it helps in Minecraft the sword is equipped in the right hand of the character but the player presses LMB, and if you have a shield in the characters left hand the player presses the RMB
slate salmon
oh my gosh, i was literally playing that less than 30 minutes ago and didn't even realise... good point! haha ๐
craggy zodiac
I believe it is better to not make the individual hands react to the selected button but instead have the item listen to specific buttons.
again using Minecraft as an example, if a 'placable' item is in the right hand it can be placed by pressing RMB, but if the 'placable' item is in the left hand and a 'tool' in the right it is still RMB to place
slate salmon
very true, that makes sense. it would be confusing if the button to place the block switched when you moved it to the other hand
craggy zodiac
LMB (Attack/Mine), RMB (Place/Interact), if both hands have a Place/Interact use the one in right hand
slate salmon
ill follow a similar pattern for my game, thanks ๐
craggy zodiac
npb
cobalt arrow
How is everyone doing for the GameJam so far?
civic dock
Haven't started yet, but I'll be getting into it tomorrow.
cobalt arrow
yea i'm working on mine right now @civic dock
Mostly downloading assets and doing planning.
Thinking something that has a leaderboard/Global Stats.
Based on Killing Things, just not 100% if I should use Twitch Plugin I created, or the Discord Plugin thats available
Have you been throwing around any ideas @civic dock or naw? Thinking something revolving around money.
civic dock
No ideas yet because I've been focused on publishing my template first.
Gonna do that tomorrow morning, then have a meeting with a potential client, then it's jam time. ๐
cobalt arrow
WOOT rock on man Congrats, what template are you publishing now? @civic dock ? @.@ I get to spend the next day setting this gamejam up, but then also preparing my raspberry pi with open vino for this weekend togo to a hackathon in Fremont
@.@
civic dock
It's a template for people who want to do the "under 100 MB" challenge.
cobalt arrow
oh really? ๐ฎ
civic dock
Basically a blank template that's much smaller than UE4's default blank template.
cobalt arrow
Yea I dont know if i'll hit that unfortunitly.
Since i'm litterally using a majority of assets I've purchased in the past + substance painter Xd
civic dock
Yeah, might be tough then!
cobalt arrow
Wish I had the time to learn modelling
odd moth
Under 100 MB seems tough. I remember trying to get HTML5 jam builds down in size and even my tiny few hour project busted that after removing unused starter content
cobalt arrow
nods
odd moth
maybe it's easier with the newest version of ue4? idk I've been a little out of touch
civic dock
I can get a blank project down to 62 MB.
atomic crypt
100mb isn't an enforced rule about the size, right? It only gives you the possibility to be ranked in "Streamlined" category, if I am not mistaken?
civic dock
Which leaves over 30 MB of headroom for assets. ๐
civic dock
@atomic crypt Correct, it's a special category, not a rule for the whole jam. ๐
cobalt arrow
3mb for just programming
civic dock
I was including code when I said assets. I meant anything custom you make. ๐
atomic crypt
Ok, good to know, thanks.
odd moth
wait bioblaze did you make a twitch plugin
cobalt arrow
yea.
atomic crypt
I got the idea "settled" in my mind, now researching around it, and should be started with the implementation later today.
cobalt arrow
That one with 100+ Functions Twitch Login, etc.
I have no life.
i'm redoing it, and launching it for 4.22
odd moth
nice. I used it.. kinda fun to type "explosion" in chat and something happened in game haha
odd moth
I felt like a kid again for like 10 seconds lol
cobalt arrow
or using discord plugin for the user system
atomic crypt
To be honest, the theme of this jam is kinda "too obvious". I am sure we'll see many games resembling each other.
cobalt arrow
this way I can keep it without a user/login
who needs ANOTHER username/login
for a game?
like seriously
odd moth
Yeah I'm wondering how... creative I should be in interpreting the theme
cobalt arrow
So either Twitch Plugin Login, or Discord Plugin Login
Yeah that got me for a bit there.
I spent all day even took a nap to dream about it.
I think i have a pretty awesome idea
atomic crypt
I had to ditch the first 5-6 ideas that popped up since the announcement. And I am not sure if what I decided now will be unique at all.
cobalt arrow
lol
I know whatcha mean
i went through i think 3
1 with a coin, and you make decisions in a story and you make a decision and a flip if its correct you continue else another ting happens
then i thught something with having a NPC system where you pass a coin for things which allows you to control the next person
then i went to another one involving twofaced like thing
stable kiln
coinye west ๐
cobalt arrow
LOL
odd moth
I think coin as world mario world style and two worlds overlapping will be popluar
popular
Although i'm not sure I can do that ill get flashbacks from "connected worlds" ludum dare.. I think i played like 100 of those
odd moth
npc passing one seems unique
cobalt arrow
I'm just waiting for assets to fnish downloading
Eh, I didnt like it.
this one is more fighting, with levels
odd moth
cool
cobalt arrow
I feel this one would be interesting and at the same time, I could totally see it being addicting
cause the strongest people in the world would be streamers
but the weakest person in the world can become the strongest
just that concept would make people battle the shit out the game.
odd moth
"Submission may not include personal attacks on anyone or any discernible product, includingcompetitor products." I guess no clinton "public and a private position" games
But an evil dictator pretending to be nice could be fun maybe? <child hospital publicity appearance> coin flip <operate blacksite>
dawn basin
!gameidea
glass fossil
Want game ideas? Send me a DM!
stable kiln
geo cashe
gunna be a fluid sim
cant say i recommend booting up for the first time when the jam started allready ๐
well actually depends on what you want, havent spend 3 hours on it yet
so its not too bad
odd moth
"Submission must not include assets created prior to the Contest Period (outside of noted sourcedassets)." in official rules vs "List any content that was created before the jam that was included in the final submission." in itch.io
odd moth
Yeah they both say that (even assets sourced not from marketplace asset store - non-original), but the itch rules seem more permissive for previously created original assets
It's fine.. but I was thinking to take an old dusty game and reinventing it (usually against jam spirit). I guess as long as I only take the idea and remake stuff it's fine ie: game 1: the alpha crap, game 2: the coin flip
*E.g.
just in the vein to actually finish something instead of adding to the pile of projects haha
eh I'll just do something totally new to avoid all of that
odd moth
night gl on jam
heady viper
Having trouble deciding on something suitable for the theme that isn't the obvious choices ๐ค
stable kiln
hmm houdini cant seem to write to the file it just created, some weird export system right here
could have done this in blender like 100 times over allready
hey what was the free licence indie or apprentice?
im on appentice thats why it wont work
I was able to make stuff but not export it, thats like super not cool
pretty sure i installed indie
well gunna give it 1 reinstall and 1 more hour tops after that its uninstall and back to blender
marsh oxide
@stable kiln from what i know you can export with indie version, but you need to activate the license for it
stable kiln
im on apprentice still this is kinda convoluted
marsh oxide
the apprentice version is the free version from what i know
and does not include the export functions
stable kiln
i actually quit somewhere here lat time i tried to install houdini, the lincense server was down back then and never tried again
marsh oxide
if you requested the free license for indie version you can activated from the license administrator thing, and you have more docs in the email
stable kiln
activating your product like this is kinda user unfriendly
i cant seem to find the licence administrator
its not in the patch they say it is ๐
marsh oxide
it should be another program
if you press window key and search for license administrator it should pop up
stable kiln
it booted up 1st time i started but think i picked the wrong option
ahh lol that does pop up, i tried houdini licence ๐
marsh oxide
yeah, that will open the houdini license and there you can install license from your account
stable kiln
but its installed allready?
marsh oxide
that is ok, you just need to open houdini indie
and the export to fbx should work
i'm a beginner with houdini too so i can't help much ๐
stable kiln
thats dude u got it fixed ๐
man a popup when i tried export saying my licence doesnt permit would have been kinda usefull here
just like there X Y and Z dont have X Y and Z but they are just empty fields
like wtf ๐
glass fossil
Some of you feel confident with the game your are making ๐ ? I'm not even sure I understood the theme the right way xD ! The jam is hard and full of doubts :/
stable kiln
feel good about my idea, this program is fighting me every step of the way tho
did not account for exporting bein harder than actually making a particle
think i got it now, when files starting to get names like waaaa6.abc u know its not going good ๐
glass fossil
haha I think you'r on to something xD
stable kiln
and crash
glass fossil
That's also an hint
Still would love to have technical issue, creative block is a pain in the ass -.- didn't expect it to happen on a jam
stable kiln
phew it was just a bad timed crash on my 1st propper export
retested with 10 frames and its moving in unreal now
think thats about 7 hours to get from booting it up for 1st time to exporting an abc
not too bad i guess
well i still dont have the full sim, and the idea behind it is good enough to be worth it i think
stable kiln
still isnt finished and could have made 200 of these in blender allready, this1 wil look way better if i have time to polish it tho
glass fossil
If I may ask, how do you understand the theme ? DO you have to take the counterpart of what's made usualy in game like "hey You are a zombie and people want to shoot you in the head" or do you understand it as "hey every action you make in the game have two side" ?
undone geode
you could take it literally and make a game out of a coin with two sides :>
glass fossil
Thought about that but I think a lot of people will make something like that ^^ maybe it's just me doubting myself tho
undone geode
at the same time, if everyone thinks like that and tries to avoid the "obvious" choice... maybe there will be almost no projects using the literal meaning
glass fossil
Haha true ^^
undone geode
so maybe use both, make a game about opposites or advantages/disadvantages on a two-sided coin :>
glass fossil
Thanks for that i'm gonna keep it in mind ^^
Maybee my subconscious mind will pop something with it
stable kiln
im gunna do a story that plays from 2 sides, but might only have time for 1 side and theme connection wil be nullified ๐
happened b4 and wil happen again ๐
damn if i started playing with houdini last week id be able to leverage it more
glass fossil
Nice wish you luck, hope you will have enought time to make both side tho ^^
or at least to start mastering houdini xD
stable kiln
im a houdini pro now ๐
well i made it my mission to make something at least with it and i think i can do it ๐
glass fossil
That's smart tho, at least you have a precise goal you can reach ๐
stable kiln
the whole 3 vieuwports with all diffrent controlls is kinda confusing
glass fossil
Maybe there is a plugin for that tho
I know there is one for Blender to make the editor controls similar to UE4
glass fossil
Same, especially when working on both at the same time
stable kiln
mayB keyboards should have a thumbstick for cameras ๐
holding R mouse to look around allways annoys me ๐
minor hemlock
3d mouse
stable kiln
if(($F<40,1,0) turns the particle off after 40 frame.. like really ๐
minor hemlock
Of course unreal doesn't have native support for them shake fist
stable kiln
well might use this thing if i dont have time to improve on it
you could do alien plants and stuff really fast with this tho
but its time for blender, do some animations lip sync and stuff
aw cmon crash when its allmost done rendering
lime crane
Iยดm aiming for the most beautiful rocks award. lol
lime crane
lol yeah it will be night or dawn when Its finished. no one will see it anyway.
stable kiln
gettin the idea my vid card is showin its age in houdini :P)
glass fossil
Who said concept art is dead ๐
stable kiln
well actually gettin to the same lvl as blender sims now ๐
exactly what i need ๐
great vertex color also works
smoky canopy
nice
rigid fog
@warm bloom haha, that's pretty nice
warm bloom
Thanks @rigid fog !
lime crane
looks interesting!
stable kiln
any1 know where these apex files are stored?
i was able to remove em and put em back last time i tried but cant seem to do it anymore, is this some 422 thing?
seems super weird that it isnt stored anywhere
stable kiln
well did a copy from another mesh
craggy zodiac
quick question, If I wanted to make an object invisible to the player but have it visible when the player is looking through a "revealing" window what prosses would that be in? Post Process? Material?
stable kiln
boolean
ow w8 u can also see it half?
like if there is a wall around the window and u cant see around a bool wil do
triggerbox on the window that turns visible on the object
1 min mechanic, good stuff ๐
hmm i want another char, but allready on 600mb with 1 and a lil houdini stuff
guess i can model the rest ๐
no w8 i got it
compact cedar
@warm bloom why the face at the beginning smiling?
warm bloom
it's out of sync because the focus isn't on the editor, it was on the app I used to capture the gif
the text on the side still says "good" too so it must have skipped a physics update but still had the red effect from the Post process
if that's what you meant by the question @compact cedar
stable kiln
lol the other side of the coin doesnt quite mean what i thouht ๐
this is actually a bit more easy
cobalt arrow
@stable kiln you good at particle effects? lol
cause man.. I really hate trying to make these
stable kiln
nah, took me about 6 hours from bootin up houdini to exporting a fluid sim firt time
stable kiln
no sprite emitter?
stable kiln
damn i should change my emitter to coins ๐
stable kiln
think im fine on emitters for now ๐
cobalt arrow
lucky you
:p
i'm building a level building system @.@
sitting here and making modular pieces @.@
pulsar owl
Hey Edwin you would do that in the materials using a custom depth mask. basically you have 3 meshes each with there own materials. one is the object you want invisible, one is the glass for the window, and one is a mesh that is not rendered in the main pass, but is rendered in the custom depth pass.
idk if im allowed to link my own tutorials here if answering a question, if that's an issue I can delete this. https://youtu.be/pws2ntTC0NM
slate salmon
bah, more than a day in and still dont have a fun idea, im really not a fan of this theme ๐ฆ
cobalt arrow
XD
I have a gfrew idea
but damnit the amount of setup
is stupid
LOL
@.@ trying to create Modular Corridor Pieces
Made a placement generator
after that I gotta do doors, and a few other things
-_-
cries
I hate level piece building ๐ฆ
undone geode
plenty of ideas, but none that do not use the literal meaning and are actually fun ๐ฆ
cobalt arrow
@.@ i hope mine is fun
its fun to me
lol
i keep laughing at it
cause its like
Evil
lol
undone geode
good luck ๐
cobalt arrow
โค thanks you too man!
Iknow you'll make it fun
even if u dont think its fun
maybe its fun to others?
build out a quick levelw ith the functionality and give it to a friend
ask them what they think
and then keep working on something
thats sorta what i did
:X
stable kiln
if u like laughing u might like mine , well if it gets finished ๐
brisk cape
Yow guys! I was wonder if you anybody would like to check out the game me and my team made in the last three days for the DAE game jam, its a atmospheric 3D puzzle platformer feedback is always welcome!
stable kiln
ppl here tend to be short on time atm ๐
that or they wil steal ur idea ๐
ok, whats a good asset pack that doesnt take too much space
i mean trees and stuff
i mean i need a few decent trees and rocks w/o 4k textures ๐
semi real
cobalt arrow
@.@ that moment when you see a depencie of a Node_module you created has a security issue warning
PATCHED!
UPDATED!
ANNOUNCED!
@.@ I hate security alerts, thank god i have then pinging me lol
restive shell
Finally got an idea... good speed everybody! ^^
stable kiln
think ill go for some showdown VR props , thats for VR so shouldnt be too big
warm bloom
@stable kiln The "WaterMill Environment" has some good trees. decent poly: look and they have lower res textures.
stable kiln
ohh i do have that
glass fossil
How are you going people ? Is this jam killing you and making you doubt yourself xD ?
cobalt arrow
Definitly getting on my nerves
I have to make a webservice for my game
with websockets
:p
glass fossil
At this point I will be happy if I can submit anything playable ^^
glass fossil
Wow well xD you are going far !
Well I just don't like my idea so much ^^
Couldn't find anything Original/Fitting the theme/That my skills will alow me to do
cobalt arrow
that happens just keep at it
๐
try and makea story
remmeber anything can be applied to a story
glass fossil
Yeah i'm gonna do that ^^ but you know, I was like waiting for that jam since the announcement xD Never thought lack of creativity will be the issue there ๐
I may do just that, if I can have a prototype by tommorow, maybe I will try to add a story ๐ thx for the tip
And I went with the least original idea anyone could have in the last decade
stable kiln
just doin some thing i wanted to do for a while, just happens to fit the team allright i think
glass fossil
Well kinda the same in the end, I will get that game out of my system at least, but unlike you mine need to be tortured to fit the theme
scarlet thunder
Who was it here who made Nano? https://github.com/BlueVoidStudios/Nano
wet rivet
I believe it was pfist#9999 @scarlet thunder
scarlet thunder
@civic dock (or whoever made Nano) you may be able to trim off an additional 32mb if you haven't changed the DefaultBloomKernel. By default it's a 2048 HDR texture. I don't know if you can override it via a template or not, maybe you can override the ini file that sets the default for the engine, and that might prevent it from getting packaged.
Given that that's 42% of your 76mb package, seems worth investigating :p
somber hazel
scarlet thunder
That texture is disabled on mobile, so yes actually :p
But given that the Nano template only targets Windows, I suspect that is not possible here
stable kiln
your source files been updated bla bla... clicks msg away and wonders why stuff didnt migrate
4.22 in a nutshell
100 mb for props
candid fable
Man this theme is kicking my butt
glass fossil
I Feel the same way ๐
civic dock
@scarlet thunder I've looked into doing that with a package blacklist, but I've had no luck getting that feature to work.
Also, removing the file would only shave off about 10-12MB. That 76MB is compressed. ๐
The only way I've been able to remove it is excluding the EngineMaterials directory in Project Settings โ Packaging, but that's unsafe and causes lots of annoying errors.
scarlet thunder
@civic dock Can you override an engine ini using a template/game ini?
I think it's only packaged in because it's referenced by the engine ini, so if you override that to a different texture you can swap it for a much smaller texture.
civic dock
Ah interesting! Will definitely explore that.
scarlet thunder
It's definitely excluded on mobile platforms
civic dock
It's definitely annoying to have it in there since it's huge and only used for FFT bloom, which games generally don't even use.
Especially not tiny games. ๐
scarlet thunder
I understand why it's there (so that bloom Just Works โข) but I agree it's a bummer it's packaged with every game by default.
On the flip side, for most games 32mb is nothing so it's ultimately not a big deal in most cases.
civic dock
Yeah for sure.
Ideally, it would be a checkbox in Project Settings. ๐
"Enable Cinematic/FFT Bloom" or something like that.
scarlet thunder
It'd still have to be referenced via a config file to have a path to the default one, so it'd get pulled into the packaging I think
Actually I guess if you overrode the serializer to not serialize the field when cooking based on the bool
cobalt arrow
Just finished my Corridor Small/Wide Pieces and I finished my Stairs
now I get to work on my 3 Ways, Turns, 4 Ways, XD and Dead-Ends!
After this i get to build out my Level Builder Xd
I still need to create a few pieces thou @.@
minor hemlock
easy to forget how many things I still need to do when working solo
day 2... I think I have the mechanic nailed, time to work on level design and other goodies \o/ https://imgur.com/a/e1O37hg
civic dock
Nice! Looking good.
minor hemlock
probably helps to mention that all launches are done by flicking the controller stick ๐คฃ
civic dock
I just finally sat down to get started on mine. I'm excited because it's been a long time since I jammed.
minor hemlock
yeaaaaah, I skipped the last jam so it's fun to be back on something light
desert coral
I finally got it, down to 53.3MB
desert coral
Yea now I need an actual game ๐
desert coral
Yea for the other 4 jams I participated in I had no issue finding inspiration, but for this one it's a bit more difficult. I tried not to involve coins since that will be 80% of the submissions. But I think I got the basic idea now.
amber valley
@desert coral share your secrets ๐ค
desert coral
I think @civic dock was saying last jam that he would be writing a guide for that
civic dock
Yeah I'd like to do a write up soon, but for now I did make a template you can use to do most of the work.
amber valley
@civic dock I bookmarked to download it when I get hone ๐
Where can I get an update when you release this write up @civic dock?
civic dock
Best way is to follow me on Twitter.
desert coral
I'd love to follow you on Twitter, however they won't let me create an account
amber valley
Same name as here?
civic dock
Twitter
desert coral
If you guys personally know Jack Dorsey and would like to ask him to let me input my phone number in the textbox when confirming my Twitter account that would be great ๐
desert coral
I think it's because it's a VoiP phone number and therefore it's blacklisted. However I can receive text and phone calls from all other majors platforms (Google, Instagram, Amazon...)
Alright, I'm still at 56MB and I have a working menu with Resolution and Sound level settings and background music !
desert coral
Well, I will call that a win for today, see you guys tomorrow !
stable kiln
so much to do today, and also need to put my jam together
craggy zodiac
Finally got one of the key mechanics of the coin working
(The coin will have a hole in it that you can look through)
stable kiln
your level looks exactly like mine ๐
i gotta get stitching together, if i keep making content not all of it wil make it in
glass fossil
Hello fellow jammers
stable kiln
got my main menu set up ๐
glass fossil
Nice ^^ !!
stable kiln
wonder if ppl gunna steal my game and put it on steam ๐
that was like one of the weirdest things ever ๐
also test standalone, not just play in editor
glass fossil
Well if they do you can sue them
stable kiln
doubt u can get o lot of em, could be wrong tho
i put a copyright sign on mine just in case
ok, im gunna package my thing and put on itch, had some problems there last time, and check package size
nothing of the good stuff is in there allready tho
glass fossil
I don't even want to try it ^^, if the size is wrong at that point i'm fucked and have to do it all over
better be disapointed tomorow
stable kiln
hmm u can still fix stuff now
glass fossil
Not really, if the package is too big means the assets I use (for example some parangon assets) will never fit with all I want to add in the game, without the polish I loose interest in my own game ^^, for someone who's not an artist, what's the point of a marketplace takeover where you can't use marketplace assets ๐
stable kiln
no yellow or red lines Im all goood ๐
glass fossil
๐
glass fossil
That's well played tho !
I'm pretty sure I'm gonna be fucked, but I'm getting attached to what i'm making now ^^
glass fossil
Well maybe you will be the one realeasing it on steam at the end ^^
amber latch
with itch you can use external storage websites e.g. dropbox
glass fossil
That may come as an handy solution ty for the tips
amber latch
nope problem, when your creating the pack it ask you to upload to itch, or use external link
i have had to use google drive in the past as my project was like 1.1gb :\
stable kiln
lollol it took one of my old games automatically
i am the only visible submission?
any1 know if i can remove my submission?
didnt see the dropdown
nm think i got it
ok its gone
how long wil it take from upload /page create to be able to pick it in the dropdown?
lol i hit 10 views and 1 download on balls of snow in the 3 min it was on there
hahahaha i got a download on ownreal editor via Platformer NSFW
like how
these itch analytics are fun ๐
i guess it does have blood
glass fossil
That's pretty cool xD
pearl siren
TurboSquid.com has some free assets, but some are restricted to editorial use only, is it safe to assume that those assets would not be allowed here in the game jam project?
stable kiln
not sure if u package and put on internet its educational
altho it is
anything not from MP wont add to score or something
mayB they bend it a lil with free stuff from unreal forum
I wanted to use ugandan knuckles ๐
perhaps ill make one myself next time
minor hemlock
haha
I'm tempted to take the house back to a greyboxed design ๐
just not default grey ๐
stable kiln
been there done that wil do again, might have a lot of gray this jam ๐
i really dislike lvl design
its easy to do but hard to master i guess ๐
and if i push around other ppls asset in the end it feels like i made nothing
glass fossil
I feel this apply to making a game in general tho xD
stable kiln
i kinda like problem solving, i dont get that with level design
i do enjoy sculpting a bit
cobalt arrow
finally got all the level pieces done
now level builder @.@
and i gotta figure out this stairs situation
lol
after level builder, need to do level generator
after that
I can finally start on the Spawners & NPC AI @.@ jeez
glass fossil
That's fun I started the other way around made the spawner and NPC AI first on now i'm on level design
cobalt arrow
nice
I'm trying to make it somewhat procedural
Cause like SSSS Rank Level would have like, 100,000 enemies in it to battle over the course of 45mins if you cant complete it XD ur fucked. LoL
stable kiln
I allways try to do something funny, but when you try to be funny and ur not it sucks so much ๐
cobalt arrow
lol
I'm trying to make you take your keyboard and smash it
as hard as possible
if I get someone todo that with my game
i have succeeded in life
nods
stable kiln
comedy is tricky business ๐
stable kiln
I at least did something right
now the game ๐
my idea is swinging all over the place now, it changes faster than i can do anything ๐
glass fossil
Lucky you ^^ sort of
stable kiln
100s of things u can make but gotta pick 1 ๐
glass fossil
Make a 100 quick prototype with the smallest viable scope of the idea ๐ and pick ?
Worst case scenario you end up with 100 games to polish for the next year
stable kiln
ow allmost forgot gotta put a resart lvl widget on escape, the fix for most problems ๐
cobalt arrow
I choose 1 concept
I'm enjoying mine now
just it requires a webserver
and user system
sighs
I gotta go make a script to populate the database
and make the SQL queries i need for the data population ingame
as well :X
slate salmon
ive been streaming my end of the jam, anyone interested in a link?
also is anyone else streaming?
cobalt arrow
GOOD JOB! @slender acorn ๐
I havent gotten too the player character yet
i'm just finishing up the level right now lololol
keep up the good work man!
i should post something on twitter
I think I will
slate salmon
here :D
https://www.twitch.tv/uteebs
i'm a bit slow right now, i'm still in the process of waking up, haha
glass fossil
Haha still gonna be cool to have a background while making mine xD
slate salmon
haha thats good ๐ there was around 5 people watching last night for a while, i guess its pretty chill watching dev streams sometimes
glass fossil
Yes it is
- you can learn stuff
Not sur i'm gonna stay on it for long but right now it's just the kind of Background in need ^^
slender acorn
cheers guys ๐
glass fossil
GJ loki that gif make me want to play your game already
simple portal
slate salmon
hey, you the guy that raided me last night? lmao, how's it going ๐
simple portal
how goes your jam man, i was able to watch a ltitle before i passed out :x
slate salmon
pretty good ๐ getting hung up on a few things im not familiar with but im learning so all is good haha
simple portal
awesome, if you need any help you can always drop in and ask
I am trying to make tutorials based off twitch questions etc so jump in anytime even after the jam
slate salmon
nice, sounds good!
desert coral
I'm starting to think that static lighting only was a mistake ๐ Even with GPU Lightmass it takes a while to compute.
minor hemlock
yeah, all about moving fast for jams ๐
I heard gamers love collectibles, so I added some collectibles to collect to my game ๐คฃ https://imgur.com/a/xchjK5v
stable kiln
editor crash on the first time ever i try secuence recorder
seq
pretty sure i did nothing wrong tho ๐
desert coral
Yea, last jam I mixed a wide open level with a character from Paragon and created a Sequence, and once I was done with the Sequence and save the level, that level would be corrupted and I couldn't open the game project. I managed to "fix" the project by opening it in another way and removing the level but I tried doing the same thing 3 times and it would always create a corrupted Level for some reason ๐ฆ
desert coral
You always need to do a test package multiple times during the jam ๐
stable kiln
huh my map is now untitled and my maps are gone
no w8 they back
weirdest thing ever
gunna do a hardcopy ๐
desert coral
That's what Source Control is for, it saves bacons
stable kiln
ok, now i have to spoiler
if some1 buys steamkeys here
could i get in trouble?
like it seems like a good place to buy steamkeys right?
slate salmon
hey i need some alternate words for Buff and Nerf related to magic
best i have is Blessing and Curse, but i feel like there's better ones?
heady viper
Bonus, Enchantment, Boost, Exalt, Favor
Disgrace, Neglect, Stagnate, Hinder, Burden, Impede
slate salmon
ooo nice ones!
simple portal
An accounting game. I am down let's do it @cobalt arrow
cobalt arrow
lol
XD i guess u could say it
Extreme Fastpaced Action Packed Accounting Game for the Next Generation
jeeeze that actually sounds interesting untill you hit the accounting game part
and then ur like
wait
wtf?!
lol
stable kiln
ur just looking to get ur taxes done best by making it a competition ๐
heady viper
Is there a way to revert to a previous save because i may have just deleted something very important and saved over it
unique glen
rigid fog
the one weekend that unreal docs shouldn't be crapped out
civic dock
@heady viper In your project directory, check Saved/Autosaves/ and Saved/Backup/.
heady viper
Dude i could cry you're phenomenal! You just saved my entire code so far ๐
civic dock
๐
slate salmon
has anyone else ever accidentally tried to create a Switch On Boolean?
i seem to always forget about branches, lol
prime karma
In lieu of using marketplace assets, I have a question if somebody could help. I'
whoops
if I migrate a level to a blank project does it also migrate a copy of all the assets used? Or would I have to manually put in everything I want?
civic dock
If you use the Migrate tool, all of the dependencies will come with it.
Right-click the level in the Content Browser โ Asset Actions โ Migrate
It will list out all the dependencies it detects before performing the migation.
prime karma
Sweet deal, thank you so much! I figured as much but I didnt want to do a bunch of work then be screwed trying to delete everything I didnt use lol
simple portal
lime crane
thats totally not a ridicules amount of particles. lol https://gyazo.com/7b7fc1f3ad822ac857a8c2a3211ffe56
rigid fog
When you're busy doing a whole bunch of shit and don't care
When you are waiting on other teammates and get a breather and start to give a shit
stable kiln
lol 700 is allready low
stable kiln
mobile?
rigid fog
I like being as efficient as I can
No
But, I was having some workflow issues anyway
So, I just redid everything in ISMC
stable kiln
i just know i went full beast mode until i went to sleep, now im not half sure what im gunna boot into ๐
rigid fog
Well, practically all major game systems are done
now it's bug fixing and feature creeping time
and level design
Me and the other programmer went full gosu-mode
stable kiln
its gunna be 80% cinematics for me today
gunna be nice and chill i think dont expect many problems today
rigid fog
Man, I wish I could get someone to do cinematics
But uh, art team has their hands full still
So much so, that I have to start texturing
stable kiln
i used sequence recorder it was great
rigid fog
Right after I crank out a few more levels
rigid fog
I need to look up a sequencer quick start vid/guide/doc then if it's that easy
stable kiln
it is
stable kiln
i should ask in cinematics for some low hanging fruit ๐
rigid fog
Heh
rigid fog
somehow... even though I doubled my levels
from 1st to 2nd build. it decreased in size
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
stable kiln
ow if u boot up a packaged game 1st time and scene starts everything is fuzzy/low rest for like half a sec, there and easy fix for that?
rigid fog
@stable kiln you can force no mipmaps
and/or increase texture streaming
I think IIRC, it's set at some stupid low num by default
1gb
maybe 2gb
should be 4gb by default now, but I guess there are some systems out there
with only 2gb
@obsidian smelt you can do it. good luck
stable kiln
well my vid card is prett old
rigid fog
welll
Nvidia.,...
If they stopped making POS 6GB cards
(or even 3GB)
Actually, I think super low end (sub 100) are at 2GB
Anyway, ram's so cheap
stable kiln
yea my ram is fine
ill prolly look at this new amd thing b4 gettin a new card
i kinda doubt it wil crush nvidia tho, but atm amd is not really an option
no VR and no 4k, so its holding out allright
700 ppl joined, no submission yet
2 days 18 hours?
lol thought it would end somewhere today
so on the submission form why can i only pick my 2 old projects?
I have the project on draft
does it need to be public?
stable kiln
ehm mine ehm ๐
rigid fog
(i.e. people who are going to submit the bare minimum for random raffle)
I don't know why big prizes are up for grabs in random raffle
stable kiln
i dont know why bigger prizes on top3
rigid fog
Well, I meant shit subs, as in people not even trying. Just trying to score a lucky raffle win
stable kiln
prizes on a honor system competition..
stable kiln
there is no way to prevent cheating
stable kiln
cant put big prizes on that
rigid fog
kinda sucks that that's not going to get raffled off to winners
stable kiln
its messed up in so many ways
stable kiln
there is no way to check if they copy pasted a bunch of bps
rigid fog
Who wins it amongst the team
Cause if someone who barely did anything on their team...wins it...
stable kiln
seriously cant put prizes on a comp like that
stable kiln
I put literally 0 value on what team wins it
rigid fog
Man, I don't know. GameJams used to be really good two years ago
stable kiln
cuz i dont know if they did anything at all during the jam
rigid fog
Especially another year before that when it was still monthly jams
stable kiln
i dont even watch who wins anymore
rigid fog
That was the golden age for UE4Jams
Well I completely agree with you.
There is a big chance that people are now cheating
Especially to "win and grab big prizes"
But...you know, it is what it is.
stable kiln
look at the simple submissions that won back then and what wins now
rigid fog
I had really good ideas to try to curb that
But who knows where those are, long gone in my memory for sure.
Fallen of deaf ears
stable kiln
its really easy to justify it too for some ppl, ow every1 is doing it...
rigid fog
Well, I believe there are still plenty of good people around
And those with integrity.
We'll just have to hope they are the ones that keep winning
stable kiln
you know, If i put the sundays in overtime, in 5 jams i would be able to buy a new PC so i actually dont care
rigid fog
Well yeah ๐
A bit off topic, but it's sort of the same way with devgrants
Especially the old ones
stable kiln
even if i win every time the raffle odds would make it not worth it for me
rigid fog
Now...there's a bigger payoff
stable kiln
time spend wize
sunday is 200% paycheck and sunday overtime is 300% ๐
so yea
not worth it at all for me prize wize ๐
im just seriously laughing behind my pc when i make my crap ๐
its been known for weeks it is a MP jam so lot of stuff can be done B4 hand, rerig make a lvl all sorts of stuff
if u make something really nice by doin stuff B4 hand it makes other games look less good compared
rigid fog
Dunno, all I know... I been working my ass off since Thursday's theme announcement
All I care... is to make the best product I can, in the time I have and submit this shit not broken
stable kiln
stable kiln
ACTION FIGHT SCENE ๐
wish i could color within the lines or touch a texture without completely destroying it
stable kiln
but like really, how do you add your game... i cant pick it from the dropdown on the submission form
ahh got it, needs to be public
autumn abyss
hi guys we are still missing one person in our team we are looking for any positions except sound design we are making a stealth game, shoot me a message on discordr if interested
stable kiln
15 is a lot of jams ๐
cobalt arrow
How is everyone doing on the gameJam Today?
atomic crypt
Is it allowed to use to ActionRPG project as a base for an entry? I mean, changing character and environment assets, adapting the logic/flow to whatever idea I have. Basically, stripping it down to be used as a framework for something else.
glass fossil
Well it's kinda part of the marketplace
Hi Bioblaze, well not bad not bad, just tried to packaged, went fine but the compressed archibe is 1.5G, sad time xD
And you ?
obsidian smelt
Haha ok so having started a bit late on the jam at around midday today, here's my initial bit of progress (game won't actually play like this, just using the top-down pawn right now). Spent most of my time just getting everything together, designing, beginning work on actual gameplay systems, and throwing some stuff into the scene. I've got a decent enough plan for what's to come, but here's hoping I can get it done in 2 days.
https://youtu.be/hQrgl4yK9yM
glass fossil
Looks great ^^
hearty ferry
Wasn't planning to participate in this jam, but just had a great concept idea, lets see if I can manage doing everything in only a couple days ๐
obsidian smelt
@glass fossil Thanks!
@hearty ferry Hahaha, went through the exact same story arc today.
slate salmon
anyone here using the chameleon pack? im wondering if theres a way to exclude specific actors from the texture overlay effects like "Haunted"
olive bloom
@marsh oxide welcome to the club ahah
minor hemlock
ended up having a sound guy join after I thought I was going to be doing this solo ๐
heady viper
That's neat!
minor hemlock
that's pretty cool, how's the coin integrated into the game? I see it said to pick one up at the altar and it giving buffs/nerfs
slate salmon
the player will have a coin that they can toss and as they toss it, the faces change randomly.
when you catch it, youll have some random face that represent a "trait", ie, destruction, illumination, mobility, etc.
if you choose to flip to the other side of the coin at this point, you will either get a blessing or a curse related to the trait
if you get a destruction blessing for example, all the enemies are destroyed, but if you get a destruction curse, the coin is destroyed; thats when you have to find another
later on, the coin will be used in another mechanic that involves completing the level, havent started that yet though, right now it's basically a random status generator ๐
civic dock
Nice to see everyone's progress! ๐
minor hemlock
"why is it so hard to climb these stairs?" collision mesh is a ramp, doh
guess I need to touch up all of the collisions in this house..
cobalt arrow
@glass fossil :x well trying to set my quality to lower settings
but i think i broke it
lol
oh god..
24,000 shaders need to recompile
omfg...
heady viper
by the time that completes the jam will have finished
cobalt arrow
;-;
cries
7mins for 5k :X shaders
I need to finish a few more bits bobs just working on the level parts then i gotta get the NPCs involved and trying to kill me โค old fashion lol
mortal sky
Got my basic concept down.
slate salmon
ooo that's cool!
cobalt arrow
nice @mortal sky :x
i'm not 100% done @.@ i'm just now trying to get everything for the player in XD LoL
and finishing forcing things to spawn correctly @.@
gritty perch
i posted a question in the blueprints channel anyone have a minute to take a look?
im at a standstill lol
mortal sky
thanks guys. i am new to the discord and it is cool seeing peoples progress before the jam ends.
lime crane
oh man 730 people joined the jam, looks like they like the jam concept.
gritty perch
wow
lime crane
I see my 50 bucks giftcard for the MP going down the drain. lol
lime crane
yeah dont know the correct word, that raffle thing
slate salmon
well, on the other side of the coin, having so many people is why we can have so many prizes ๐
gritty perch
is everyone entered into that raffle just for submitting?
lime crane
yes thats true, Iยดm not complaining, just stating facts here. lol
yes every one with a legit entry.
gritty perch
i dont understand why i cant pick up and drop this item
lime crane
but anyway, I learn a lor, did you guys know there is a camerashake component which makes nice shake effects? I didnt. lol
gritty perch
it drops multiple times even though i have a counter set to only drop if the counter = 1
cobalt arrow
Such Scale, Such Wow
lime crane
arrays start with zero thats all I know
slate salmon
my character is too tiny haha
lol looks like we have opposite problems @cobalt arrow
lime crane
Oh I saw your vid, that looks cool.
gritty perch
its not an array i just made an integer counter that starts at 0, and increments everytime you press q
slate salmon
thanks! ๐
gritty perch
then it should only set the spawn actor true when the counter equals 1
lime crane
you could ask in the BP channel with a screenshot, they always helped when I had a problem
slate salmon
perhaps your counter is going past 1? i usually avoid using == and use >= or <= just in case
gritty perch
i asked but no response, it would be hard to take a screenshot
i just added a false print string to see if its actually going through as true, i mean it has to be since its doing the other code after
minor hemlock
yeah I really like the flip animation
slate salmon
the hand meshes came from an IronBelly pack but the animations were done by me :D
it took me forever though... im not very good at animating, haha
heady viper
Reminds me of bioshock infinite with the coin flip scene
lime crane
if you character is too tiny, just change the eye height and it should be fine. better than changing everything else though.
slate salmon
chances are ill change the environment because this scene is just for testing purposes anyway, it's a default scene in the Multistory Dungeons pack,
ooooh skeletons
cobalt arrow
was doing a test with the skeletons for enemy height and clearence
tokes
nods nods
heady viper
dwarf fortress amirite
lime crane
soo boys lets go and do this. lol
minor hemlock
488mb... might not hit that 100mb and under category ๐
(mainly because my lighting build itself is 110mb)
Anyone want to take a break and playtest while I go watch game of thrones? ๐ PM me if so (controller required!)
candid fable
How to you guys fight the burnout over the weekend???
minor hemlock
by doing a game jam
gritty perch
whiskey
slate salmon
lots of soda
candid fable
Yeha I got mead
gritty perch
mead is like beer but brewed differently right?
minor hemlock
honeeeey
candid fable
nah its like wine but sweeter
gritty perch
oh
candid fable
One of my buddies owns a meadery
gritty perch
awesome
wet rivet
Don't forget to save fellas
candid fable
ooooh, rough
gritty perch
saved
slate salmon
my engine's been crashing more often since i got 4.22.1
gritty perch
im using 4.19 and mine is crashing a ton, but im also not using a GPU right now i just sold my 2080
for bill money
wet rivet
this was pretty much my face when it happened
candid fable
I have stayed in version 4.20 ๐
minor hemlock
I'm on 4.22, no crashes yet ๐
slate salmon
๐ฅ
wet rivet
I've run into issues with it crashing on my laptop in the past when unplugged, personal theory was it had something to do with GPU
^lack of power to GPU
gritty perch
probably, ive been checking CPU temp and its fine, its a 7700k so it should be fine
im just staying away from level design letting my partner do that while i do BPs
whats the easiest way to export blueprints? is there an export button or should i just copy paste
wet rivet
You could copy the file or migrate them I think
gritty perch
alright cool i may need to look into that
also 1 more question since this chat is active and i have easy questions
for print string i want to print text and a number how do i add them
slate salmon
agreed, lol
minor hemlock
@gritty perch I also like Format Text node for interpolation
candid fable
If you hover over a folder and right click it allows you to migrate
cobalt arrow
tokes
gritty perch
thanks @candid fable
@minor hemlock im not sure what that means, this does the job for now haha
minor hemlock
gritty perch
ohh that looks nice
gritty perch
is there a way to enable and disable only certain keys?
minor hemlock
such as..?
if I understand correctly, just toss a branch after the key event with a variable for controlling when its enabled/disabled
gritty perch
D: i think thats what i need
ill try that, but i think im still having issues with my trigger boxes
basically press e to pick up, disable e, press q to drop, disable q and enable e
seems simple but maybe a bool will be better, im using a counter and setting it to 0 or 1 which i guess is literally a bool lmfao
wet rivet
shoot i dropped my spaghetti
I feel like there's a great graph you could make of the quality of my code VS the time left in the jam
minor hemlock
Mine starts poor and gets better as I realize I need to refactor or stall
Kind of like an airplane I need to maintain speed for lift ๐คฃ
wet rivet
I wish people that made tutorials would skip their intros and show an example of the finished part at the very beginning
Then again I'm relying on them so I shouldn't be complaining
minor hemlock
Hehe
gritty perch
still an issue with enabling and disabling input
setting it to a bool helped a lot with organization though
lime crane
do you guys know, if I packaged my game, does it put everything, even unused meshes into the game folder or just the used ones which are in the level?
civic dock
As far as I know, assets that are not referenced in any of your levels will not be cooked unless you explicitly say so in Project Settings.
lime crane
ohh okay thank you very much
rigid fog
however, pause comma for effect
You can and should specify only the maps your are planning to use
lime crane
okay, yeah was thinking about putting that dungeon set in my project folder but I wont need all of the meshes.so not that it packs all the stuff into the packaged file, but I last time it was very small as well even though I had a lot of stuff in the content folder.
slate salmon
i feel gross for doing this, but time is running out
lime crane
I feel you on a different level. lol
rigid fog
@slate salmon Nothign wrong with that. It's actually pretty legit
Better than six branches
seven
slate salmon
since marketplace assets dont hurt our score anymore, does anyone know if royalty-free music would or not?
wet rivet
I don't believe any premade content ever hurt your score, it just didn't add to it
Due to that, you can use royalty free music from a source other than the UE4 market place, but they will judge it as if it was not on the project
stable kiln
well i think they look more at the full package, cant really tune out the overall quality
there is soem free music on the MP tho
my biggest animation workaround ever ๐
not sure what this unreal studio does, but sequencer has some unexpected results from time to time
few weird bugs and messes with ur camera speed
sometimes i fly 2 KM in half a sec on camera speed 1 in editor
cuz it picks the spped of my cinematic camera im sending from 1 place to other side of the lvl for next shot and editor camera just takes it over
have to a bunch of stuff blind cuz it wont show up in seq unless the gamethread is running or something
maiden loom
it's because your keys are set up to blend rather than snap
so it'll blend through that 2km
stable kiln
nah it changes my vieuwport camera
when i exit seq
not talking about the weird paths it sometimes takes
most def a bug and not as intended shouldnt go light speed trough editor with cameraspeed 1
i think most of their camera movement is done in external software
lot of other stuff too
for their demos and fortnite
amber valley
@lone willow what font is that
stable kiln
ok lil question b4 i got to go
these points in anim curve, can i copy paste em to the curve above?
seems like something that can be done but i cant seem to do it
can select em all and drag em around but not copy
glass fossil
Can you copy the full curve ?
stable kiln
no, not even on the same timeline
glass fossil
Weird
Hm maybe when selecting a key and checking on the details you can copy the values from the details panel
stable kiln
i have been pressing shift D instead of controll C a lot but that aint it ๐
glass fossil
Well I feel you, ^^ i do Ctrl X a lot
stable kiln
details is empty when selected
glass fossil
I must say I don't know sry mate :/
stable kiln
yea np
heady viper
Does god stay in heaven for fear of what he has created https://i.imgur.com/utrI6mY.png
glass fossil
That's a yes from me
rigid fog
last full day huh...
stable kiln
@heady viper i make stuff like that on purpose, its actually hard
glass fossil
4 entries already and they look kinda cool
Just played one of them, kudo's to you COry Brow, cool concept
minor hemlock
ohey it ends at 11pm tomorrow, more time than I thought ๐ฎ
should give me enough time to build lighting at full quality ๐คฃ
lone willow
@amber valley It's a custom font from my handwriting made using Font Maker
balmy drum
