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#game-jam-chat
minor hemlock
the docs for the LED sdk mention nothing about lightsync hm
does show a few of the featured keyboards/mice though
I suspect lightsync is just the name for the user application that also interfaces with the LED sdk
minor hemlock
also holy cow, huge round of dev grants
how soon until those are on the table as jam prizes ๐
rigid fog
@copper carbon think you can ping someone over at Logitech and confirm?
rigid fog
That LED Illumination SDK = Lighting = Lightsync
Because there's nothing that specifically states "Lightsync" in the SDK
From this article, it looks like two different things
glass fossil
I was planning on heading down to Best Buy and plugging my laptop into the speaker demo there to test it
rigid fog
@glass fossil Ah, you should. If it doesn't work...then we know ๐
glass fossil
Also @copper carbon hereโs the tutorial! https://youtu.be/0eF9GEj-Ryo Partly Atomic linked it earlier
rigid fog
I wouldn't be surprised if they are the same thing, just BS marketing
But then again, why is it only supported by a few of their stuff then
minor hemlock
nah, just wires crossed ๐
dry jetty
Any Artists still need a team for the gamejam? Have a team of 3: Blueprint Guru, Level Designer, Materials/Writer/Designer
minor hemlock
marketing disconnected from dev disconnected from marketing
violet robin
Their Lightsync SDK page links to the LED Illumination SDK, so I assume it's the same.
minor hemlock
one would assume, but the SDK docs don't mention several of those products (like the speakers)
rigid fog
Then why isn't everything in the G-series with RGB supported?
strange also
that download page, I type in "lightsync" in the find
and I can't see it in the damn page
violet robin
The docs in the SDK ( in the plugin) mention the speakers specifically (G560)... but they don't use the Lightsync marketing term.
glass fossil
Iโve been assuming that the LED effects the keyboard and speakers
somber hazel
might also effect my G502 mouse
minor hemlock
@violet robin doh not sure how I missed that
rigid fog
@glass fossil Did you actually package a game?
Test packaging?
Cause this is a bit worrying here...
PSA
glass fossil
I did a test package and it worked
rigid fog
k
glass fossil
What Iโm doing though is building out my project as a blueprint project and then adding it in the last few days
small fern
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they added this into jam link now
it wasn't there few days ago when I checked
but the link says it's expired already
wonder if the link isn't just live yet?
@copper carbon you probably have some info on that?
minor hemlock
The form Request Quixel Megascans for 2018 Epic Mega Jam is no longer accepting responses.
small fern
same
minor hemlock
from the doc you just posted :\
rigid fog
Their Quota of 1 was met
small fern
yay, works now, thanks
zenith gust
lilac fox
Thanks, im not a smart man
safe island
But, do you know what love is
clear surge
what is love babeh, dont hurt me
tulip viper
@lilac fox suck or lazy? ๐
lilac fox
suck q-q
tulip viper
๐
glass fossil
Whoo games jam channel represent!
south dew
lol
minor hemlock
Missing the stream :( stuck at car dealership
Hopefully that's the theme because it's giving me ideas
rigid fog
you aren't missing much
worldly night
agreed
devout raven
hey is this the spot where i can ask for a game dev for the jam? our last one just left the team and so we need someone else
compact cedar
Who's Jamming this time?
waxen trout
glass fossil
๐ ๐ 20 mins ๐ ๐
fading rock
@civic dock is trying to demonstrate using a program called butler and the itch.io desktop app to make uploading your game and pushing changes smoothly while you focus on jamming.
glass fossil
@compact cedar me
2 bad games and 2 good games of experience xd
Whoo! My name was said right ๐
H Y P E
fading rock
glass fossil
lol
gonna set up project settings tbh
just so i dont have to go through it
unreal editor pls load faster
I wonder if I can work on the game during my history class
hmmmmmmmmm
Hmm
dew it
glass fossil
i will work on creating an idea during a history exam
zenith gust
@small fern getting video just fine here
small fern
ah, video works on chrome
I think this has happened before
@pine fulcrum will you be doing playthroughs? ๐
small fern
they are just announcing it
glass fossil
ok
small fern
small fern
and theme is... Reality is often inaccurate
maiden loom
oh damn, I could have some fun with that
zenith gust
Yeah loads of possibilities
tepid light
Weird theme. I hoped for something less specific
worldly night
Loads but it will take me a day to think of anything good
tepid light
Good luck to everybody!
small fern
languid pasture
that's a beast of a theme
tepid light
Hmm.. a shooter where player character is a terrible shot? ๐
zenith gust
Yeah I'll have to sleep on this one and think about it at work tomorrow, many ways to spin this
uneven basin
you know that buffering icon in video players? that's inside my head now
languid pasture
finding a game idea is the hardest thing for that
hardy talon
Can we change/add punctuation to the phrase to alter it's meaning?
waxen trout
I love it
uneven basin
@hardy talon twist it, bop it, squeeze it. any way you like
hardy talon
Ahh cool ๐
zenith gust
Yeah definitely give it a unique twist if you can
tepid light
Just don't go too far off the theme
uneven basin
use of theme is still scored
hardy talon
Not precise / possibly incorrect
safe island
Incorrect, or untrue
civic dock
This theme should be good. Can't wait to see what everyone makes!
Updated the topic with the theme.
Go forth and jam!
glass fossil
Love this theme
civic dock
Me too. I think people will make some great stuff with this.
glass fossil
I have to think a little tho
๐ค
Well I have 15 hours until I can start with ue4
iron musk
I'm not sure if I bought enough pot for this theme.
languid pasture
anything that comes to my mind requires a lot of work
languid pasture
or a duplication of assets
glass fossil
Wait is this ok? 'reality isn't the same as you see it', just thought of this thing
torn leaf
i think that matches the theme
zenith gust
@languid pasture yeah most of my initial thoughts have huge scope, gotta find a good way to narrow it down
iron musk
iron musk
Happy to help!
glass fossil
And gotta make the environment also surreal just to add to the theme
Big Thomas the tank engine
Flying by
As a cloud
iron musk
Macho Man Randy Savage as a giant dragon.
worldly night
everyones planning idea's im explaining to my girlfriend what a game jam is and why i have to stay up so late every night
glass fossil
Lmao
south dew
@worldly night been there before
iron musk
Ha.
glass fossil
Just say "work"
worldly night
XD
glass fossil
Just don't say that it's for fun, she will kill you
worldly night
all my team mates are asleep and i have a pretty good idea but idk
well ill wanna die in a week anyway
worldly night
gl
hardy talon
I can almost hear the cogs turning in everyones heads ๐
worldly night
mines more like metal scraps falling into dust as thanos is clapping his hands
somber hazel
what a great theme for technical artists
hardy talon
"The Guide is definitive. Reality is frequently inaccurate."
~ Douglas Adams, Writer.
neat leaf
theme too complex for simpletons like me
worldly night
I'm a god dang map disinger and all my team members are fucking asleep idk what to do im not meant to be a thinker right now
my brains mush
glass pecan
@hardy talon you left out a key point .. that quote is directly from Hitch hikers guide to the galaxy
iron musk
I'm about to finish this bowl and go take a shower. It's where I do my best thinking!
๐ค ๐
๐
uneven basin
....dragons!
hardy talon
@glass pecan Haha, it is! ๐
uneven basin
that's it! I've come up with a new recipeh!
worldly night
@iron musk Good thinking best ideas come from being in the shower
hardy talon
Wish I had VR
a VR game where everything does the opposite of what you think it will
marsh oxide
hey guys, do you know if Logitech gaming sdk will be soon available for 4.21 ?
small fern
you can probably just upgrade it yourself
I doubt it uses any api that's changed
how you do it is that you first need c++ project for ue4
then you take the 4.20 plugin from your ue 4.20 installation folder (it's under plugins/marketplace)
and place it on your own project under Plugins folder
marsh oxide
ok, thanks, ill try that
small fern
after it's there (and you have c++ project), you just right click the uproject and regen the solution file
after that you can build the plugin along with the solution
marsh oxide
ok
small fern
you don't have to actually have more than some empty dummy c++ file to do that
like, you can start with blueprint project and just add c++ file using the ue4 menu wizard and not use that file for anything
you just need some file to be able to build the plugin
I've done this a lot with preview builds and custom engine builds, as you don't get marketplace plugins for them
you have to compile them yourself
and putting them into project directly is a) easiest way b) how it should be anyway
sometimes the plugins build structure changes a bit and then you have to adapt to changes but there hasn't been such changes between 4.20 and 4.21
marsh oxide
good to know, thanks
brisk oyster
hi folks, does anyone need an houdini/3D Artist for the jam? I'm more or less an unreal beginner, so I'm here for the fun and maybe to learn some things. Let me know, if you have a stylized look in mind and need somebody like me! ๐ Have Fun!
glass fossil
Does idea of reality (world) always changing ok with the theme
minor hemlock
theme is pretty open to interpretation, I'd say that's a decent fit ๐
crisp pawn
Hello everyone.
zenith gust
Hey
hot falcon
hello :)_
crisp pawn
Haai.
zenith gust
So many ideas that are unfeasible for the timeframe ^^
crisp pawn
Yes.
worldly night
i have an idea but i dont know 1. if its good 2. if others will like it 3. if i can make it in time
zenith gust
@worldly night my tip would be to write down the basics of your idea and then work on coming up with more. Then you can take a look at all the possibilities later and compare them
in isolation it's hard to see if an idea is any good
worldly night
level designer theres the world hahah map was the first thing i thought of tbh
zenith gust
I'm a do-it-all-but-kinda-badly dude, decent with code, so my project tend to lean towards the stuff I can make a difference code-wise
worldly night
How are you guys thinking of interpreting the theme?
crisp pawn
Hmm. I'm not exactly a coder, I use blueprints.
worldly night
I cant code and i hardly know blueprints
minor hemlock
@worldly night without giving too much away, "reality is a simulation" ๐
crisp pawn
Well.
worldly night
In a simulation in a simulation INSIDE OF A SIMULATION
minor hemlock
we are going to solve some well known problems in theoretical physics ๐ค
worldly night
agreed
minor hemlock
I can only hope the margins are wide enough to contain the full proof
zenith gust
@minor hemlock all in a good weeks work eh? ๐
crisp pawn
So, WHAT is reality?
worldly night
nothing is real
minor hemlock
if reality wasn't real, it'd be called unreality duh
crisp pawn
everything is permitted, but you have to do them over and over and over.
worldly night
I'm using the theme as reality isnt always how it looks like its almost fake or inaccurate of portaying the truth
crisp pawn
And by everything, I mean everything you see on the minimap.
minor hemlock
I hope some materials guru team does an optical illusion game ๐
worldly night
I definitely dont think i can use this idea what i was going to make was a game were you walk around amazing pretty like bliss type environments but you find rifts that take you back in time and show you what it was like getting bombed or gun smuggling and all bad crimes that makes it hard to believe how amazing it is
stupid but thinking of all the amazing levels i could make is fun
crisp pawn
Maybe the reality is how do one interprets it?
worldly night
we need to make like the illuminati and make theorys about this god dang theme
crisp pawn
Maybe.
worldly night
@crisp pawn You in a team or working alone?
crisp pawn
I'm alone at the moment.
worldly night
If you ever get stuck or feel lonely hmu my shit ass team will welcome you
clear surge
Cat BattleDragon Riderzzzz
crisp pawn
Hmm.
worldly night
Fusion you better make a game about cats riding dragons or i swear to jebus
crisp pawn
I'm more experienced in concepting and level design, if you guys need such stuff.
And only a bit of Blueprinting.
worldly night
So far we have me a shit map maker and 3d modeler and my mate who's semi decent at blueprinting
and i think we have a friend doing music
crisp pawn
Ok then.
worldly night
where ya from?
crisp pawn
Turkey.
worldly night
Yeah you can if you'd like
worldly night
that server i sent you
crisp pawn
You are there at the moment, right?
worldly night
Not atm just listening to music brain storming waiting for my mate to get up
worldly night
probably not
crisp pawn
Or we can head over there and chat a bit, before I go to bed.
worldly night
Voice chat? nah im tired as heck so dont feel like talking but chat chatting sure idm
or you can sleep and we can talk when you get up
crisp pawn
Normal chat can work, no problem.
worldly night
Alright cool
minor hemlock
isn't it all human's lifeblood?
copper carbon
subtle bday drop, Tim
safe island
Thanks bro
I wear a size 42 shoe.
I am the answer to life the universe and everything.
So long, and thanks for all the fish.
proper hull
@hardy talon thanks for posting that reference. gonna watch hitchhikers guide again for some additional inpsiration!
safe island
No no no no NO
Read the book
Don't watch the movie
And read Restaurant at the End of the Universe. Particular chapters 28 and 29.
safe island
Indeed.
the TV show was... passable
Though, I long for a world that Dr Who is replaced by Zaphod Beeblebrox the 4th.
copper carbon
But Bill Nighy...
@glass fossil - added your tutorial link to the jam page, if that's alright?
waxen trout
What are the resources with free trials ending today in particular again? I want to say it's SideFX but just making sure.
small fern
there was a tv show?
safe island
On BBC
copper carbon
SideFX ends today
hardy talon
I've got 3-4 ideas down on paper now. Trying to stew on them for a bit before I start tomorrow. How many others have their concept already?
small fern
I have a plan
iron musk
That shower I took earlier helped me hammer down a rough story, gameplay, and core game loop.
lilac fox
we just started :3
iron musk
I'm still trying to hammer the "fun" into it.
woeful junco
Same here Tomio
lilac fox
think most of us mustered up whatever remaining creative juice we got left after working lol
woeful junco
I have ideas that match the theme but no solid gameplay to match those ideas yet
iron musk
I'm pretty sure sometime in the next 48 hours I'll be taking a short walk in a forest.
Besides the shower, it's another place that helps me think.
hardy talon
Yeah, a lot of the stuff I've come up with sounds fun, but really it needs a proper gameplay loop before it'd work.
iron musk
Lots of things can cause ideas. Like television "aha" moments.
ancient delta
hey @iron musk I think I saw your post on twitter, about the shower xD
still no ideas
robust basalt
hey guys, any free ideas for us?
hardy talon
Something I was thinking about earlier but probably won't use.
"Reality is often inaccurate" basically means "Fake news"
TrumpSim
woeful junco
topical
wicked dune
Hey @civic dock, what was that swanky terminal app you were using on the livestream?
gaunt copper
Anyone have issues with assebla connection, like it saying that user dont exist?
compact cedar
^ yeah, we have really weird issues, random user disconnects and not logging back
@wicked dune https://hyper.is/
dry jetty
Any Perforce gurus out there? Are the teams supposed to be on the same depot?
compact cedar
@dry jetty no!
acoustic crater
is RealityJanitor yours?
dry jetty
Yes
dry jetty
Lmao
I want to say sorry for downloading some of your project, I downloaded a cube to see if I could
gaunt copper
your p4host is ue4jam/Awesome-Cats?
dry jetty
Nope
it is 18-epic-megajam-25
so now I think that's the problem, we need to give it our own name?
gaunt copper
no you suppose to have your own repo
dry jetty
right
so on P4 on the assembla page
is your depot address: ue4jam/18-epic-megajam-25?
gaunt copper
no host change the name depeding on your team name
dry jetty
@copper carbon @safe island accounting error?
gaunt copper
you can rename and thats what we did at begining on last year megajam, we used it in all jams ever since
dry jetty
hmm ok
gaunt copper
@compact cedar did some cleaning before jam and he created new repo and move our old repo with our old projects in to archive
copper carbon
Someone in the wrong space?
dry jetty
I made a new repo, but I could still access your files in the main folder
I am fairly confused myself haha
compact cedar
@copper carbon yeah...I think @dry jetty pushed to uor repo =)))
gaunt copper
whats od i dont see him on premissions
compact cedar
@copper carbon he's not even on out team at Assembla
copper carbon
Grabbing the olโ laptop. One sec.
gaunt copper
yes but why you see our space is also a issue
dry jetty
Right
copper carbon
@dry jetty Can you privately ping me your email?
hidden flicker
so i setup p4 from my own computer last time but i am having a tough time setting up on assembla just following the instructions line by line until i try to login on the command line and it returns Access for user 'ImagineGames' has not been enabled by 'p4 protect'.
has anyone run into that?
hidden flicker
yeah
compact cedar
@hidden flicker we have this issue before and it's gone by itself
hidden flicker
our team is looking at me like ๐
lol
might just have to host it on my own machine
copper carbon
@gaunt copper - I DM'd you
dry jetty
Has anyone else successfully submitted to the perforce provided by epic?
carmine kindle
Well this is an interesting start to my jam... my windows decided to suddenly deactivate itself after about 7 months.
wicked dune
@carmine kindle mine literally just did the same but it's been going on 3 years
acoustic crater
@dry jetty can you commit something (anything) we still see your repo but not sure if its a Clone or if we are actually still sharing across
compact cedar
config is different for each repo, but neither works for me
glass fossil
Anyone else struggling to connect to their repository on assembla via p4client?
I was going to stream my game making process but our team had such a cool idea that now I'm waiting on it
Im super excited to show this off though
rigid fog
@carmine kindle solo jam?
carmine kindle
Yup
rigid fog
very nice
hidden flicker
alright well, setup perforce server locally since the assembla one wasnt working for me... if anyone needs help this is the best tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOaDZEG49Z4
hidden flicker
the only thing missing is he never goes over a ignore file, but you can find that on this guy I have never heard of's blog ๐ https://allarsblog.com/2017/04/05/populating-perforce-with-an-unreal-engine-source-build/
note you will have to install the command line p4 tools to setup the .ignore list
and the tutorial will tell you not to install it
and why not just follow Allar's instruction on how to set it up you ask
because the video tutorial will teach you stuff like port forwarding
pfist was about to say, move to source control
civic dock
Nah this is fine.
Encouraging more people to use source control for game jams is all good in my book. Same with sharing relevant resources. ๐
Perforce is much easier to install these days, too.
If you install it on a Linux server, it's got a mostly automated package-based installation now.
@wicked dune My terminal is a mix of things actually. The front end is Hyper, but the back end is actually Cmder. I've been using Cmder for years - my favorite terminal emulator on Windows - but I love the front end experience of Hyper, and theming is much nicer.
And here's the guide for integrating Cmder with Hyper: https://github.com/cmderdev/cmder/wiki/Seamless-Hyper-integration
Basically: looks like Hyper, functions like Cmder. It's an amazing combo. ๐
compact cedar
@civic dock hah, i was wondering why there's Lambda in it, now i know
civic dock
Hehe yep.
wicked dune
@civic dock Thanks for the pointers. I don't do a ton of console stuff outside of linux for windows environment, but this looked super slick and the lambda caught my eye.
I started thinking, why is he calculating half-lives in his terminal?
civic dock
lol!
wise apex
didn't catch the full stream, what'd they have you on for?
civic dock
Yeah it was fun! There were a few technical glitches, but I'm going to publish a blog post about this stuff soon. Hopefully that will fill in the gaps.
Nice! I like Cmder because it's the easiest method I've found to get a Unix-style experience on Windows.
Even has SSH.
wise apex
well I grew up windows, but hey. why not.
You can find a better alternative to most things MS, bar MSVS.
civic dock
Indeed.
wise apex
like file explorer? Bah. Dopus.
civic dock
I had a client once who used that.
minor hemlock
I've got a dopus ๐
minor hemlock
it has a 3d file preview now!!!! so essential for browsing my model libraries
wise apex
wait really?
civic dock
Oh nice.
minor hemlock
yeah, as of last month I believe
wise apex
Ooooo
minor hemlock
uses the windows 3d viewer integration, so anything it can open..
civic dock
3D Viewer supports fbx and obj.
minor hemlock
I think but am not 100% sure that it doesn't preview text fbx and possibly text obj though
wise apex
wicked dune
I've seen dopus a few times but everytime I read the docs it seems entirely photo-centric and I use lightroom for that. I don't need to see and interact with all that meta-data. The only thing I want is a way to tie 4-7 folder windows to a single taskbar entry to get rid of my folder hell scenario.
wise apex
Also I know I've got a full disk :P
minor hemlock
oh no that must have just been a bug ๐ just previewed a .obj
wise apex
It might seem on the surface to be photo only, but its actually replaced UE4 and VS for my code-class-creation workflow.
wicked dune
What workflow is that?
wise apex
So vanilla UE4: Open the editor, go through the class wizard and either compile and hot reload or know to disable it.
Visual Studio: go through one of their dumb wizards, similar xp to UE4 editor - only it doesn't know about UE4.
Regular windows: Create the files you want for the classes using cmd or through file explorer. Right click the uproject to regen or drag the files into VS.
Me: Hit a button, type a filename, press enter, click another button, tab back over to VS and wait for the regen script to finish.
Anyway this isn't #dopus-proselytizing
minor hemlock
but if it was, consider yerselves proselytized
wicked dune
Got it, yeah, anything to speed up that workflow when you're making a bunch of new classes would be nice.
hidden flicker
@wise apex dark mode ftw
glass fossil
So I almost have an idea
wise apex
We've an idea... I think.
<- me rn
glass fossil
There's almost 1000 people in this jam, that's crazy
glass fossil
Honestly with how awesome this theme is I'm hoping that with so many people there will be some really cool games
The route we're taking with our game is so different than how I'm used to making games, but I think it's an interesting way to explore using games as a medium for storys and I'm super excited
Why is everyone saying that this theme is amazing does everyone here have like mega high creativity?
Unlike me ๐
hollow horizon
Does anyone know how to get the megascan 4k freelance subscription to work? After filling out the registration form nothing happens, im not getting an email or anything
gaunt copper
Some head up, if you got Assebla repo from Epic and you create P4 tool and oyu see files in it that means your repo is broken... same as us :p that repo is unsafe because we can see what you upload and other people can edit that repo too
there already 3 other teams that did uploads to it one even deleted all files in it
So if you got in to that phantom repo inform Amanda that you also effected by it
glass fossil
The trick to source control is to use git and keep deleting files until the merge errors go away
gaunt copper
No there something bad happening on assebla tool managment, because i created to diffrent P4 tools and they exacly the same :p
not to mention deleting those tools dont wipe contence of it
glass fossil
Oh yeah I was just joking, I do need to get better at using some form of source control though
gaunt copper
for now im only one working on project, if this dont get fixed i will throw it to my BitBucket there some other memeber of team that has Perforce server so can also set up his for us
zenith gust
A tricky theme indeed, a good nights sleep still didn't hook me on any idea (any doable idea)
hopefully a day of work will get my mind going ๐
maiden loom
that's pretty damning for Assembla tbh
storm blade
glass fossil
idk
zenith gust
@storm blade make sure that you also store your own stuff elsewhere for now, even if only locally
and reach out / wait for clarification
guessing it's a config fuckup that they can solve, but who knows
glass fossil
made most of code now ๐
in less than an hour
ok i guess will do art today
just more time to polish and finalize ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
zinc relic
is the jam already starting?
random parcel
Usually it starts with the theme being announced. So yes.
worldly night
How's everyones Projects going so far
hollow horizon
my team hasnt managed to decide on a game idea yet
zenith gust
I think I have a plan now, a few more hours at work then I can get home and get started
@worldly night how's yours going?
worldly night
But confusing but we have a main idea now and i've started modeling and making levels
Bit*
zenith gust
nice!
worldly night
what type of game you making? 3d 2d?
zenith gust
I'm going 3d simply 'cause my artistic ability is horrible, but I've practiced some 3d so combined with decent materials it looks a bit more decent than my drawing ^^
lilac fox
we're on the edge of feature creep and wev only just started >_<;
glass fossil
walls
marble flax
I would love to do a game on dementia but I have a feeling it would take more than a week to make it.
copper carbon
Assembla is looking into it - will keep you all posted.
zenith gust
@marble flax yeah there are some really cool things the theme applies to that but that are hard to reduce in scope
copper carbon
Anyone currently here having issues with their repo?
worldly night
Shitty hallway for my game
all though when i exported to unreal it was a solid object even when there was nothing there
random parcel
Probably autogenerated collision?
amber latch
i hope someone is making a game like legion tv show about reality..
worldly night
yo @random parcel I'm not sure if you know but if you or anyway else does do i declare things if i download them import to maya and import that into unreal?
worldly night
you know how you have to declare stuff if you made it before the jam started do i do that for 3D models i downloaded for maya
random parcel
Pretty sure you have to write down all assets you downloaded from somewhere
zenith gust
Yeah better declare everything that is not yours or not made during the jam
random parcel
That's at least what we did a few jams ago
e.g. every mesh, sound, texture, etc. if it's not made by yourself during the jam, write down where it's from
worldly night
Better be safe then sorry i guess
zenith gust
even if you make a derivative spin I would argue it's better to declare the original pieces as well
worldly night
alright thanks
i wonder whos gonna be the one ass who makes there game 30 gigs on purpose
wrong there XD
marble flax
Humm. I have an idea. I wonder how difficult it would be to transpose a 3D object onto a 2D plane facing the player.
carmine kindle
I think the largest game I've seen so far in a jam was somewhere between 6-8 gbs, and that was full of marketplace assets
worldly night
If i win i just want the assets and gametextures
and the laptop and
everything else
carmine kindle
Not just the glory?
marble flax
'For the Doors'
glass fossil
when you dont look at a wall it changes to a door/wall/broken wall randomly
worldly night
i must say @glass fossil They are some Sexy doors
glass fossil
heh
worldly night
i tried to make a door and i said heck it and made it a rectangle
glass fossil
reminds of 'The Witness'
zinc relic
You already did that game ๐ฎ
glass fossil
?
marble flax
I often have a problem with my RecastNavMesh not regenerating correctly. I often have to delete it.
glass fossil
well there is no doors on my itch page so i dont care if i did that or not
no one will know
worldly night
you're to cool for anyone else dude
glass fossil
@zinc relic what skills u have?
zinc relic
i can draw stickmen
worldly night
amazing skill
zinc relic
where is spooky
random parcel
Note: Really bad stickmen.
glass fossil
OH GOD THATS SO GOOD
worldly night
^^^
marble flax
There are 2 places you can set the Navmesh to be Dynamic, in the Project Settings and in the NavmesRecast.
glass fossil
@marble flax this?
marble flax
Yes
glass fossil
k thanks
zinc relic
what are you creating majik
zinc relic
lets do together
worldly night
I just tried to do a card trick to myself 1. i forgot to look at the card i chose 2. the place holder card ended up under my desk some how 3. This is how i procrastinate
marble flax
1 Man Army 4 the Win! ๐
marble flax
Waiting for 4.21.0 to download, I kind of want to make the download graphs into a platformer game.
plucky cedar
Hey everyone! Our team is (a bit late) looking for artists to join for the MegaJam. We've got a composer, designer, and coder already. Thanks! https://crowdforge.io/jams/ue4jam/teams/2560
worldly night
If i wanted to turn this around to be connected like a hall way what do i put in duplicate special?
In maya
safe island
Hey there @plucky cedar if I join your team, we'll have to change my name to something different. Can I be Hue Jackman? (Get it, HUE, because colors)
plucky cedar
Uh yeah sure XD
waxen trout
Yes pseudonyms are encouraged on the team in fact ๐
random parcel
The rules of Epic Staff not being allowed to win in the Jam is still a thing?
maiden loom
I would assume so
random parcel
They can join though I guess? Just not win :P
random parcel
60% sure they are allowed to "join", but the team can't win then
I mean, nothing keeps you from "joining" anyway
maiden loom
dunno, can't recall
worldly night
@safe island Come join my team we just need you to sit in our discord repeating You can do it! for 8 hours everyday for a week
it's the dream job
minor hemlock
tims dream has always been to be a very small shell script
safe island
I need someone to encourage the encourager
worldly night
We need a line of 30 people encouraging each other to encourage tim
safe island
for (x=0, x<10000000000000, x++)
{
cout << "You can do it! << endl;
}
worldly night
I'm a level designer that falls under art I'm an artestie
safe island
I am an artisan bread eater
maiden loom
level design isn't normally an art role :p
safe island
Depends on what aspect of level design
If all you're designing is the grey box then you'll have to have an artist come in and spruce the place up
Our level designers at my last company fell under the art team
worldly night
Maya is really pissing me off right now
maiden loom
they do here as well, but as a result the levels aren't really 'designed'
little to no consideration for gameplay, lol
safe island
It becomes a balance when you have 7 days to make a game ๐
Do we work on systems that are going to improve the game play/functionality of the game
maiden loom
it's a game jam, not an art jam :p
worldly night
IM AN ARTIST OKAY MUM
maiden loom
you can jam some art into a sandwich, it's still a sandwich ๐
worldly night
yes thats right its spelt mum
safe island
I am the last person in the world to ever function in art
maiden loom
Subway shakes fist
safe island
Every time I have to sign paperwork, I have to commission someone to do it for me
worldly night
why
safe island
Joining the military was EXPENSIVE
Because signing stuff is artistic ๐ IDK
I just thought it sounded funny
maiden loom
they don't let me near anything that does anything vaguely arty
worldly night
This is about the best art i can make
warm bloom
I asked a couple people if this was too far, turns out yes was the overwhelming answer
maiden loom
is that trump throwing stuff at journalists, the game?
worldly night
looks like hes throwing sex toys ay
warm bloom
He's giving the golden microphones to journalists.
lilac fox
oh my >.<
worldly night
@warm bloom Can you add hillary clinton in full gold form and if you shoot her you get 1,000,000 points
warm bloom
negative. you're playing for votes though, so win or lose, you win! there will be special abilities such as the Intern, who will recall the microphone.
copper carbon
lol
worldly night
hahaha fair enough
dusky vessel
Here's a free idea that I wanted to use but we decided against it:
Alexander vs Amanda: the fighting game
copper carbon
๐
uneven basin
getting major creative block from the theme
glass fossil
(โฏยฐโกยฐ๏ผโฏ๏ธต โปโโป
uneven basin
^exactly
welp, at least got the character mesh done today
gonna be pain to rig tho with that much cloth
dusky vessel
@uneven basin nice! I like it
sharp berry
marble flax
I don't know, but this theme just doesn't escalate my inspiration very quickly.
worldly night
same
wispy kernel
@marble flax tell me about it. I was watching last year's jam and I immediately got inspired by its theme. I have this theme in front of me since yesterday and I started to fall asleep (LOL).
civic dock
Don't forget: you can always DM @glass fossil for randomly generated game ideas! It's hard to get one that fits the theme, but it's a good creative exercise that may lead to you coming up with an on-theme idea.
dry jetty
Is there a command?
civic dock
!gameidea
wispy kernel
@civic dock Thanks, I had a couple of Ideas and even mechanics down, it just didn't seem fun to build.
civic dock
You can't use the help command in DM, unfortunately. You have to do !help in a public channel and it will DM you. It's permissions related.
It's because the bot checks your guild permissions to decide which commands to list, and it can't do that in a DM since you're not messaging from the server.
So... here's an idea of what madness to expect from the bot.
https://i.imgur.com/SpLELnw.png
dry jetty
Ahh
Wow thats actually pretty good
I would make that
You are the pixel plant and photosynthesis gives you strength
civic dock
But you're in the darkest place on Earth, so there's no power.
civic dock
Maybe you have to go back to the surface to recharge, then go down to the dark place and you have a limited time to shoot.
dry jetty
Survival, gotta survive the night
Ahhh I like that
You have a limited amount of time to get in and out, you can get upgrades to clear areas quicker to descend deeper
civic dock
This is what I like about the random ideas. That one's not really on theme, but trying to imagine a game around it gets your creative juices flowing. ๐
dry jetty
Or the caverns dont go deep
Yeah good point, how do you generate them? Madlibs style or precanned
civic dock
The bot has dictionaries for each of the different components of the idea. Each one is randomized separately, then combined into a sentence.
dry jetty
Gotcha
civic dock
There are a few different possible structures, too, for extra variety.
dry jetty
Im guessing there are different component layouts too? Except the beginning is always genre
Gotcha
civic dock
Yeah, the beginning is always genre, and it's always followed by a verb and a thing, but the end varies.
dry jetty
Cool
civic dock
There are also unique structures for racing games because they all revolve around traveling.
Here's all the structures: https://i.imgur.com/qpLMoEA.png
I'd like to do an improved version for my next bot, but I'm not sure yet what kind of improvements to make.
dry jetty
Probably something to do with sub-tags and a graph like structure, like if you have strategy games then anything to do with war/army/kingdom is close on the sub-tag graph and can be used to generate verb/things/goals with those sub-tags. Creating a graph-like dictionary would probably be a lot of manual labor though
Might make for less interesting ideas though since there is more consistency among the generation
civic dock
Hm yeah, but it could be interesting too.
Basically being "smart" about what verbs, things, goals, etc. to use based on genre.
But yeah I agree. I do worry that would start to generate very homogeneous ideas and reduce the possibility of coming up with something innovative.
civic dock
I have no idea how to do it, but the ultimate would be if I could feed the bot a game jam theme and have it try to create relevant ideas.
dry jetty
I feel like the dictionary strategy just can't work for it though, that is what we are running into with chatbots/machine learning, it is just too hard to fully decompose an idea to it's root components
civic dock
Yeah it's very challenging.
And to be honest, the inherent randomness of the ideas generated can be charming, funny, or even lead to novel combinations of things.
civic dock
Oh wow. https://i.imgur.com/sPJOsMr.png
glass fossil
i have an idea for a very short game
but the problem is, that game is like 2 minutes long at max
civic dock
Those are the best for game jams. More time to polish. ๐
Especially if it's repeatable, like an arcade game.
glass fossil
well it is fixing the unlogical thing
like idk how to explain
you have some things laying and flying around, and you need to put them in places they need to be
for example, table and chairs, you have to place chairs facing the table
i got this idea by googling "inaccurate", and it included - faulted/defective/imperfect
glass fossil
but it will be bad ๐
trying to fix physics in packaged project
because theyre very buggy when packaged idk why
civic dock
Physics definitely makes things more tricky.
glass fossil
but oh well, its needed for this ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
or i could make it so its not based around physics that much
where you grab them and just move those objects, but idk what to do with them touching then
i think i should think of something else
the only good thing i have at the moment is cool looking sky ๐
civic dock
Getting started is the hardest part, I think.
glass fossil
idea is the hardest part for me
civic dock
Yeah, it's difficult. But it's normal to trash your first idea or two before landing on one that works.
civic dock
Yeah, that's exactly why I use the game ideas from the bot.
I don't expect to actually use the ideas it gives me: they act as a creative workout.
Try to imagine a game around each idea.
glass fossil
oh i thought you would say "just practice lol"
civic dock
It helps put you in a creative mindset, then coming up with your own idea is easier.
Practice is the only way to get good at anything, and I consider workouts to be practice.
๐
glass fossil
but i dont wanna practice reeeeeeee ok
glass fossil
alexa, play rusty cage - family friendly noose song
worldly night
Pfist I thought your picture was a penguin but itโs not ):
worldly night
Penguins are cool tho
civic dock
I agree.
worldly night
I bet the p in pfist stands for penguin!!!
Wait..
Penguin fist you better not be punching no penguins
civic dock
Nope.
worldly night
Pepperoni fist ?
civic dock
@glass fossil Here's an example. Take a look at this game idea and let's imagine a game around it!
https://i.imgur.com/uWqqCpM.png
@worldly night It's just the first half of my last name. Sorry for the boring answer. ๐
civic dock
So @worldly night are you participating in the game jam?
worldly night
Yep
civic dock
Nice! How's it going so far?
worldly night
Slow and almost falling off the platform of unsteady ideas and procrastinating
civic dock
Having trouble finding an idea that works?
worldly night
Having trouble agreeing with my team and settling
worldly night
We have 1 main idea we are just chipping away the dead ends and adding better things
civic dock
Excellent. Well good luck! Can't wait to see the first WIP shots.
civic dock
Haha.
The community is amazing, and my moderators help me manage things day to day. They're great folks. Couldn't do it without them.
worldly night
Thatโs good to hear
civic dock
We just passed 18k members, which is just incredible to me.
glass fossil
I'm back
worldly night
I have a discord with like 12 people so I know the feeling ๐
glass fossil
What's deities
civic dock
Generally speaking, gods that are worshipped.
civic dock
Zeus, Thor, etc. These are deities.
glass fossil
Oh
wise apex
Or... are you saving humanity?
civic dock
Oh snap.
wise apex
muh subversion
civic dock
Maybe that's the inaccuracy.
glass fossil
Zeus wants to kill the humanity cuz humanity's a mistake
worldly night
A bad game of sims
glass fossil
Heh
worldly night
Zeus trying to uninstall
glass fossil
Are you sure you want to permenately delete folder "humanity"?
Yes No
worldly night
Humanity.exe has stopped running
civic dock
There's your game name. Humanity.exe
glass fossil
Send crash report to Zeus?
worldly night
Cancel
glass fossil
True
worldly night
Just 3 dudes being weird in a discord server I like it ! 7am is a fun time
wise apex
<< this twisted game needs to be reset! >>
glass fossil
Restart your computer "world"?
Just delete system32
And install a fresh copy of world
worldly night
You have moved humanity.exe to recycle bin would you like to restore this executable?
glass fossil
No
worldly night
Well to bad mum said itโs my turn on the humanity
glass fossil
I do everything while holding shift
civic dock
Zeus asks you to delete Humanity.exe, and you defy him.
glass fossil
That includes pressing the delete button
wise apex
gotta work fast!
worldly night
You need delete^2
civic dock
You think stopping him is saving humanity, but... in reality, Humanity.exe was the name of a program he designed to save humanity from an impending cataclysm.
worldly night
๐ฉ Zeus grows angry as he sits in shame reinstalling humanity.exe
civic dock
It'd be all about how perception shapes your purpose.
worldly night
Space, evil AI, survive, 2 endings choose your path type game
glass fossil
Idk where the theme is but ok
worldly night
Itโs like hard to explain
Itโs hard to explain because I donโt know where the theme is tbh I didnโt make it
glass fossil
Lol
wise apex
Your character plays a board game involving colored pieces on a grid. The colors on the grid alternate, between the colors of the pieces. The character and opponent take turns, and can move pieces which sometimes result in removing the other's pieces or granting theirs special powers.
The entire time you thought this was chess but it was really checkers. Eh? EH? oh come on.
glass fossil
Ok now I feel better about myself
glass fossil
Ba dum tsss
worldly night
Majik make a roblox copy and the theme fits in because itโs gonna be shit ๐ฆ
Ecks Dee
civic dock
Shitty Roblox sounds like a YouTuber-friendly game. lmao
worldly night
XD
civic dock
Like Surgeon Simulator.
glass fossil
Inaccurate synonyms include defective, faulted and imperfect
worldly night
ShittyRobloxClone.exe has been deleted
glass fossil
I like that imperfect
wise apex
I actually had an idea that kinda fits into the wacky "sim" category.
glass fossil
I can make a game about perfectionism
glass fossil
Who
wise apex
but instead going with a different idea, at least until init prototype
glass fossil
Is perfectionism too far from the theme?
civic dock
Still thinking of ideas myself, but not working actively yet. Got a blog post to finish first.
worldly night
I thought it said โimperfectionsโ it did not
glass fossil
Oof right, imperfect not perfect was the synonym
Perfect is antonym
I'm retarded sorry
worldly night
Nah bit dumb tho
glass fossil
Frick off ๐
worldly night
๐
glass fossil
@civic dock is perfection and imperfection too far from the theme?
red quail
I had one idea that I had to kill because it made me too sad: A sim game where you play a recent grad from a game dev program who has been told that getting an industry job would be easy. You then proceed to apply to jobs and seemingly never get one
wise apex
that's just reality though?
worldly night
Argh I was gonna dm you majik but I canโt copy and past properly on discord on phone
worldly night
I know how xd
glass fossil
Xd
worldly night
It just glitches when I hit paste
worldly night
Iโm not typing it on the phone xd
Nah Iโm a nice boy from Jesus Christ him self
glass fossil
Oh
frick
Now I'm not gonna get forgiven by you, on this Christian MC server
Wait hold on
worldly night
Got it
Make me food and your forgiven
@civic dock
I have something to tell you
worldly night
How rude o
worldly night
Iโm a little annoyed
glass fossil
You didn't answer my question
1 moment
"is perfection and imperfection too far from the theme?"
civic dock
That depends on what you do with it.
worldly night
You get pfist9999!!!!! How unfair!!! Mean
civic dock
@worldly night I set it myself. Part of Nitro benefits.
glass fossil
I feel like I need to explain why it is that for judges to actually not be like no this is not even close lmao
worldly night
Ah fair enough
glass fossil
I want 2169 tag
waxen trout
Hey everyone! Our team is looking for an additional Artist. We have our idea in development already. Our team consists of a composer, designer, coder, and one other artist! https://crowdforge.io/jams/ue4jam/teams/2560
worldly night
Well I have to sleep itโs 7:30 am and I havenโt slept yet
civic dock
I found an article that could provide a lot of inspiration for this jam. Hope you guys find it useful!
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/pieces-mind/201208/few-the-many-ways-we-distort-reality
worldly night
Cya everyone!
civic dock
Take care! Get some rest and come back refreshed. ๐
worldly night
I will have a good day or night which it is (:
violet robin
Compared to regular UE jams, are Megajam games generally longer? Or just more polished? (Or both?)
civic dock
A mix of both.
violet robin
Seems a bit like torture.. more and longer games to review. :)
Btw, thanks for the butler rundown @civic dock ... I've been really digging the continuous delivery aspect of it.
civic dock
Glad to help! Sorry for the glitches during the stream. Not sure who's end it was on, but I'm working on a blog post that goes over everything, too.
uneven basin
damnit, I keep forgetting to blink when 3D modelling
hasty glacier
Any team out there need a programmer or vfx person?
civic dock
@hasty glacier Did you check the CrowdForge site? Epic has that available as an option for team building.
hasty glacier
@civic dock yeah I did. Actually had a team but one of the teammate tried to inflate the idea a bit too much and kinda pissed everyone off, kinda made the team disperse :p ...
civic dock
Yikes. That's no fun.
Wow! Almost 1,000 people signed up to participate in this game jam! ๐ฎ
zenith gust
First two prototypes scrapped, just keep having too big of a scope, but this third one is feeling promising
copper carbon
It was all made pre-jam :/
civic dock
How boring. ๐ฆ
And weird, frankly. Oh well.
@zenith gust That's how it usually goes for me, too.
I almost always ditch the first few ideas before I nail down a good one.
zenith gust
yeah, a lot of ideas look good on paper but once you try to put them into practice it just doesn't work
maiden loom
it's possible to make stuff in 24 hours
though the end result will likely only be dubious
civic dock
Indeed.
wise apex
nah it was up for months before or something
tired raven
The improved cook time in 4.21 is so efficient that you can now complete the jam before it even starts.
wise apex
oh looky here, a place I can plug my previous project
zenith gust
"The entire game was made before the jam's time period, and took about 1 month from start to finish." - then why participate at all? ๐ฎ
civic dock
Yeah, people are strange.
zenith gust
I mean I guess it got us looking at it for a bit
civic dock
Probably what Lambda said: someone looking for an easy win.
ancient delta
@hasty glacier I'm an art guy, and I haven't thought of a viable one-week project yet. Would love to contribute if anyone has an idea.
civic dock
@copper carbon OK, I'm aiming high. I'm guessing we'll see 400 submissions.
hasty glacier
@ancient delta would you mind if I invite you to my server?
copper carbon
daaang - that'd be a lot ๐ฎ
ancient delta
sure!
civic dock
Yeah haha, probably not realistic. 300 is more likely.
wise apex
Ok I think there'll at least be one
civic dock
lol
civic dock
๐
copper carbon
I would guess around 300 as well
maiden loom
300 seems reasonable and in line with past megajams
tired raven
Yeah but reality is often inaccurate
civic dock
tired raven
Do you get extra points if you code during the Unreal Dev Day Montreal presentations ?
rigid fog
@copper carbon What happens if we go above 300? Extra Prizes?
wise apex
what if we double the amount of participants in entries?
rigid fog
?
wise apex
eg, there's 1k signed up and we do 2k entries
civic dock
That would be... unexpected.
copper carbon
^^
civic dock
That would mean everyone worked on an average of 2 entries.
copper carbon
which is against teh rules
civic dock
Yeah dude
rigid fog
Heh, realistically... I don't see that happening. What was last Megajam's entry count @copper carbon ?
copper carbon
guess I'll keep the FragBox and chairs
rigid fog
I hate having to work sometimes... takes away from my jam time...
copper carbon
about 280 last year
rigid fog
So yeah, you could definitely see 350+
civic dock
I think Tim really wants the Fragbox.