Yeah that's fair
#game-jam-chat
supple sierra
zenith gust
also 'cause I really want to learn to scope things better for solo stuff, so it's always good to practice with jams
supple sierra
I was originally going in with one of my artist friends but he had some personal things he needed to do at the last minute so I'm going solo as well
Going to be interesting trying to see what I can squeeze out all on my own!
zenith gust
You know it already, but reduce that scope size, and then reduce it again ๐
zenith gust
I always tell myself that I'll make a set of standard helper stuff I often use into a library and use that for jams, but never do, so I spend too much time on boilerplate
zenith gust
Oh yeah I remember that, didnt get to jam last time so I forgot about it
I'll check it out now, thanks
west wing
This is awesome thing.
More advanced than project templates, but still quite minimalistic, with a few files.
I wish we had more than one of it. Not for jams, but for general UE4 development.
zenith gust
Yeah I always spend more time than I can afford on recreating menus etc, this looks practical
stable kiln
hmm , mayB i should check that menu, im still usin the old1 i made for my 1st jam, kinda got attached to it tho ๐
but i should at least put 4k in there if i use it again ๐
stable kiln
is there any music in the paragon stuff, there is male announcer voice and characters got voices, but is there also music? ๐
compact cedar
@copper carbon I've sent you a PM. Thank You.
hardy thicket
Hyped for the jam today!
boreal vale
me too
sly salmon
glass fossil
so the lifestream starts in 2hrs and 49 mins?
copper carbon
It starts in just under 2 hours
the theme announce will be at the end of it, around 3pm ET
glad gorge
Oh damn, party time soon. I've bought like 20 packs of ramen for the next days ^^
calm heath
Grocery run soon for me
zenith gust
@calm heath have you ever used it before?
calm heath
Other than making animations for it, no
zenith gust
I'd try to just play around with one of the templates now before it starts
there's a LOT to learn, but just getting familiar with it will help
glad gorge
I'd just read the whole docs before it starts lol
zenith gust
maybe package a template just to know the process so you dont fail to submit your game because you got stuck packaging
(package early and often, etc)
calm heath
ok
glass fossil
in my country there is no ramen, i have only Rolton
glad gorge
in your country, the ppl read upside down apparently ^^ 43 minutes remaining until the stream shows up.
boreal vale
1h 37min
stable kiln
what is the stream about other than jam theme?
copper carbon
artistic lighting ๐
stable kiln
great, i consider myself an artist ๐
boreal vale
artistic lighthing is theme?
stable kiln
wow thats weird
stable kiln
we get to know the theme when the jam is over, its original i give u that ๐
stable kiln
well, im fine with that ๐
dusky vessel
What's the theme?
boreal vale
12miN?
zenith gust
"Transformation" is the theme
tepid light
Finally, a good, flexible theme
supple sierra
TRANSFORMATION
tepid light
Nice
boreal vale
TRANSFORMATION you say
zenith gust
Gonna go for a walk and get some ideas out, pretty hands-on theme this time which is nice
supple sierra
I have one definite cool idea I'm going to try out
Just need to figure out how to flesh it out a bit since the idea currently has a hole in its execution which would need filling
stable kiln
i got a crap idea, those are the best ๐
i still think they should raffle those high end prizes over all valid entries...
supple sierra
It's 3 am here lmao
wind mica
guessing will be seeing a lot of the free epic assets in the games
supple sierra
I tried going to bed at 11 pm but woke up at 2 am anyways
wind mica
supple sierra
I'm still debating if I want to use those or if I'm going to do everything by my own hand
On one hand using those assets would save a lot of time and be a lot nicer than anything I could make
wind mica
no rule say you can't ๐
stable kiln
you cant put expensive prizes on a competition that runs on the honor system
this is super bad
supple sierra
On the other, having most of the game as possible be made by me is an achievement in itself
west wing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86UHZq59HKo
I would probably stick with this style of content, since it's pretty quick to produce.
wind mica
get an idea first, and wait few minutes for the updated rules on the forums, they might prohibit using those assets
wind mica
you can do even better, i did once in LDJam
visually nice, but super easy to make in 1.5 day!
supple sierra
Looks trippy! ๐ฎ
unborn ether
Sorry for this if stupid... But I'm not really understanding what the theme is, anyone elaborate on "Transformation"?
wind mica
it's a word @unborn ether
wind mica
^_^
west wing
Looks pretty standard in terms of creation process.
supple sierra
The idea I have right now is a sort of 2d endless tower climb action game (Or maybe not endless depending on how I flesh this out) where the enemies in the tower are basically a black sort of goo which is harmless by itself but can possess objects to be different enemies. Defeating the enemies sometimes has the goo escape their shell and go possess other objects. To proceed through the level the player would need to collect enough goo to open the gateway (Usually done by defeating every enemy on screen)
safe island
transยทforยทmaยทtion
หtran(t)sfษrหmฤSH(ษ)n/Submit
noun
noun: transformation; plural noun: transformations
a thorough or dramatic change in form or appearance.
"its landscape has undergone a radical transformation"
synonyms: change, alteration, mutation, conversion, metamorphosis, transfiguration, transmutation, sea change; More
a metamorphosis during the life cycle of an animal.
PHYSICS
the induced or spontaneous change of one element into another by a nuclear process.
MATHEMATICSLOGIC
a process by which one figure, expression, or function is converted into another that is equivalent in some important respect but is differently expressed or represented.
LINGUISTICS
a process by which an element in the underlying deep structure of a sentence is converted to an element in the surface structure.
BIOLOGY
the genetic alteration of a cell by introduction of extraneous DNA, especially by a plasmid.
BIOLOGY
the heritable modification of a cell from its normal state to a malignant state.
(I googled Transformation)
stable kiln
well good luck every1, play nice
supple sierra
Good luck everyone!
boreal vale
good luck everyone
west wing
Landscape transformation sounds nice.
broken aspen
Good luck and have fun everyone!
hardy thicket
Was really excited for the jam until my parents told me that I couldn't join the jam because my grades weren't high enough...
boreal vale
Rip
sharp berry
oO
carmine kindle
Looks fine to me
stable kiln
actually its even better
dire pagoda
Such a happy little accident! If you could produce that effect with a blendshape, you would have some cool transformation mechanics!
stable kiln
actually the chatr looks fine, the animation turns it inside out
its just not smooth transition
lone willow
Any teams willing to take in a casual jammer? Just looking to contribute somewhere.
stable kiln
u could join me in making some retarded stuff, i dont have source controll set up tho
and dunno if ill even submit something
lone willow
Sure, do you have anything you need immediately? Maybe set up a repo?
Typically use Blender and Krita for asset creation.
stable kiln
yea same
my namin conventions are horrible and i usually dump a lot of crap in there i dont end using ๐
if you want u can join but im just messin around ๐
lone willow
Yeah, I still have to go to my regular 9-5 so I can't dedicate too much time, but anything I can help create or mess around with. Real casual.
stable kiln
well sure, i could end up playin fortnire the weekend and rough up some stupid shit in a few hours i dunno ๐
just be warned there wont be any fancy portefolio piece comin out of it
lone willow
Not expecting it. But hopefully it'll be fun.
stable kiln
okay than, i havent used source in a while so u gunna have to walk me trough it a bit
lone willow
I typically use Github so that's what I have most experience with. That, or could use one you those suggesting on the jam page.
lone willow
I don't think it matters. I haven't used svn in a long time. Is there an equivalent to Github for SVN?
Or maybe you have a server set up somewhere.
stable kiln
ill just install tortoisegit if ur used to usin it
nah i installed it to help some1 with something
he had the server
lets take it to private so we wont clog the chat ๐
tepid light
Well, here we go:
Hours working on the project: 2
Bugs in ue found: 1
Weird workarounds needed: 3
somber hazel
Still trying to transform my thoughts into an actual game idea
supple sierra
My very simple design document is finished
Been scripting for the past two hours and I'm very pleased with how progress is going so far
tepid light
I'm faced with difficult question... Should I use marketplace content to save some time or do everything myself.
Probably to early to worry about it ๐ I have at least 1 more day before I need any actual assets.
and more like 2
carmine kindle
I really need to learn not to keep full glasses of water on my desk next to all of my most expensive electronic things. I think I've spilled something in the last 3 jams I've done.
stable kiln
replace water with coffee and beer and ur fine ๐
carmine kindle
I had to throw away a mouse pad because I spilled coffee with milk on it and it was smelling real bad even after washing it several times.
rigid fog
ho ho ho
unkempt mason
Anyone that wants to use source control, you might wanna read https://www.sondergames.com/single-post/2017/07/19/Game-Dev-Version-Control-Overview
sand edge
Jamming from Tahiti ๐ Good luck everyone! ๐
sharp berry
same same
supple sierra
Core mechanics are coming along nicely
Should be playable on the most basic of levels in a few hours
zenith gust
Nice!
sharp berry
All i got to do so far is thinking about it
glass fossil
@zenith gust I haven't started
It was 12pm when I got idea tho
And then I went to sleep
Now it's 1pm
And I'm not at home
Will be home in 1.5 hours tho
zenith gust
Same here, did some thinking before bed about the theme and now I've got a solid idea to get going with once I'm off work
glass fossil
But I have an awesome idea
And with small enough scope
And I have some pre-made rocks already
By some I mean about 20
But I will use only 5 of them
And make a new one just because
zenith gust
Gameplay! Nice ๐
sharp berry
pew pew pew
glass fossil
now i can transform dead bush into a green bush
and it has that pop into and out of the ground effect
it changes scale by curve so its more fun to look at
before
after
zenith gust
@glass fossil Looking nice! I'm hoping to have restoration as one of my mechanics as well, though probably only for structures/buildings
sage wyvern
Arrghhh.. I'm so frusturated that I couldn't get in on this jam!!! /rant
safe island
Why can't you?
zenith gust
At home and ready to go, let's get this car on the road! ๐
supple sierra
Sweet!
This is taking a bit longer than I had thought
I should still definitely be able to meet the programming finish milestone I set for tomorrow though
sharp berry
i just got the first thing done for the jam ๐
safe island
\o/
boreal vale
bois
can you help me
I am setting up Stv
SO what to click when I download it
go on project files and?
stable kiln
think i used every option for skin weights known to man
even 1 unknown to the internet i think ๐
sharp berry
@boreal vale what is stv?
sharp berry
well, did you try to google it?
boreal vale
I will do tommorow with my team boss
sharp berry
that makes no sense
glad gorge
Well, everything going alright with this bird ^^
boreal vale
nvm remco
sharp berry
seems about right for a bird
supple sierra
Pretty good for 24 hours in!
Base mechanics are mostly done so now it's off to making different classes of enemies and perks
boreal vale
๐
sharp berry
sweet!
glad gorge
An awesome youtube playlist for happy background music ^_^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE4v0ToPSXk&index=0&list=PLZlv_N0_O1gYfw89JtRX0bTb_YbxHOXwz
stable kiln
wut naruto is UE4 too?
that game is sick good ๐
not so good background music if u keep the video on the foreground ๐
marsh oxide
when you don't have assets ... you grow them ๐
supple sierra
Ooooh that looks great!
sand edge
Nice!
supple sierra
The only real thing I'm worried about is the art
It's going to be flash art for my game but I haven't done it in a very long time so I'm not sure how well I'll be able to pull it off
stable kiln
well i just tested if my 6 hour model/weightpaint shit actually works
and it does thankfully ๐
looks freakin sweet ๐
supple sierra
Sweet!
stable kiln
guess doin a custom facerig every gamejam payed off a bit ๐
sudden totem
nice tree grow
haughty sequoia
finally prototype ready! - https://youtu.be/maQLOds3y9U - my first ue4 jam and I thrill!! haha
glad gorge
hope you're having a good time. and don't forget to sleep. Panic Time starts in 1,5 days ^^
west wing
https://i.imgur.com/PSIVV1Y.png
Literally.
slate salmon
no time for clean spaghetti GOTTA GO FAST
the logic is garbage too but hey, it works
pallid comet
that's cleaner than what my storms are like hahaha
glass fossil
glass fossil
progress on map
supple sierra
Looks nice so far!
glass fossil
tnx
supple sierra
Programming is basically done on my end so I've started doing art
My artist friend couldn't join the jam so I need to do the art myself this time around
So it might look less than satisfactory lol
patent cosmos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49QiQOamIWk&feature=youtu.be
i had some free time during jam .... i did a minigame in our gamejam game ๐ ๐
tepid light
Hardest part of any gamejam - sounds.
Hate that part.
is there an alternative to http://www.superflashbros.net/as3sfxr? things like freesound and stuff make it impossible to find anything with quality
Oh, right..
Soundly.. lets try that
supple sierra
Yeah I was just about to say
Epic is offering Soundly for the jam
Haven't looked at it yet though since I'm still doing my art
tepid light
Yeah, I just remembered that.
tepid light
Well, I don't have all my art done yet. But I usually leave sounds till the very end - and I need to improve on that
oh, jackpot! Soundly has exactly what I need.
supple sierra
Ayyy nice!
That's good to hear since I'll be going to dig for sounds of my own on there after I'm done with my art
west wing
Soundly is awesome.
glass fossil
I almost made my game
Only have to model and program meteors
And last day and maybe a half will be polishing
proven badge
supple sierra
Great animation!
supple sierra
Pretty much added all I've wanted to add (Realistically) art and programming wise!
Now to add on sounds, make levels, polish, and then I'm done!
proven badge
but you got another 3 days to go
supple sierra
It's more like two days for me since I need to go in for work on the last day
Either way, I don't want to accidentally bite off more than I can chew so I'll call it here for now in terms of programming and art and only come back to add onto it if I have a ludicrous amount of time left
I definitely don't want to underestimate surprise problems that could pop up during level making and/or polish time
somber hazel
slapuna's team posted, 50% of game jammers sign up their resignation
glad gorge
yeah, it's hard to handle missunderstandings in the team. one guy wan't dinosaurs, the other one cute puppies, and if you can't get them to make an arrangement, you lost. + frustration might be a factor.
slate salmon
well i spent more time than id like to admit on just wood
i feel pretty good about it though ๐
proven badge
that's some neat looking wood
sand edge
nice!
carmine kindle
Good reminder to test packaging. Apparently I didn't have visual studio installed anymore. ๐
indigo bobcat
working most the jam so im using it to focus on learning more about materials and maybe a fun game will come out of it haha
keen flame
I can use assets from the store as long as they're noted correct? Don't think I have time to make some characters
sand edge
Yes, as long as you mention the assets that you didn't make yourself ๐
keen flame
Yeah just something to replace the cubes I currently got lol
patent cosmos
wow im doing ui work for jam..
accidentally progress bar was set to border render
stable kiln
i have a hard time finding the logic in the paragon materials and how its assigned ๐
slate salmon
another material i spent a bit much time on, unfortunately it doesnt look very good ingame ๐ฆ
sand edge
what is it supposed to be? marble?
slate salmon
a cracked concrete sort of thing
keen flame
If I only have one gamepad, how can I test players 2-4 to make sure they'll work? Do I need 4 controllers?
4 gamepads i mean plugged in lol
aww nevermind found the fix in maps & modes
sand edge
oh ok
glass fossil
Level is done
just made clouds
i just love that DitherTemporalAA effect โฅ
i would say that its going pretty well
win screen done
glass fossil
ok my game is done now
TIME TO POLISH
after playing a round of fortnite... or pubg
keen flame
any idea why Disable Input works fine for my controller, but not for my keyboard? Unfortunately I only have one controller to test with
nvm found away to make it work hehe
set UI mode only in the PC
keen flame
this soundly app is super buggy. Can't click anything in it lol
keen flame
weird, its working now. I have no idea why it was bugging out. Win 7
I could only click when I would resize the window it was weird
west wing
supple sierra
Oh my
supple sierra
I wonder what sort of game all these animations are going onto ๐
proven badge
I just hope I ll manage to make all the stuff in time
and build gameplay with it ;D
tepid light
already?
wind mica
now do polishing
tepid light
๐
wind mica
yup, was born in game jams ๐
kidding, it will be hard to go to work and do the jam, so had to wrap up everything now to make it as complete as possible
tepid light
I will have a "good enough" version later today, but there is still a long list of improvements.
wind mica
hahahahahah
it is always never enough ๐ and always need things to be added or changed
supple sierra
Piecing together my last level now ๐
I'd like to have added a boss at the end but that would've probably been skirting a bit too much on the danger zone for the amount of time I have
glad gorge
oh damn, less than 2 days remaining, ..... tomorrow i'll get no sleep x)
rapid musk
I'm finally getting around to getting started on the jam, lol. Put out a call for a team on Crowdforge, but no luck. Oh well. Decided on trying for a sci-fi terraforming game in VR. My other idea will likely take more time than I've got left; this is maybe doable if I can find enough prefabbed stuff to use. Especially if I limit it to just one or two tasks/puzzles, with more to come as/if I have time
LOL Tankbuster. I know what you mean. My wife wants me to take time in the middle of the day tomorrow to go to a MewTwo raid in Pokemon Go since she's at work then.
sand edge
Yeah final crunch time is beginning lol Good luck guys
carmine kindle
There's still 46 hours left, that's enough to add several more features 
rapid musk
heh
proven badge
i'm bustin my ass here tryin to sqeeze a whole minigun into that tiny hand
these guns take sooo long ๐ญ
tepid light
@proven badge dont forget to add gameplay ๐
proven badge
it's in the hands of the coder
glad gorge
oh no. I'am the coder, so everybody will be mad, if i don't deliver nice gameplay tomorrow x). and it's already 0:10 am
supple sierra
Just finished rounding out my game with all of its levels!
Can be played from start to finish with no major issues at all
Anything I add on from this point on is all bonus ๐
glad gorge
Our level designer wasn't online the whole day. We've only got 1 unfinished level so far, not much gameplay, we need to rig and animate 2 more models, and create some SM, core gameplay needs to be implemented, ..... It's a disaster ๐ But It may be just finished in time. ๐
glad gorge
we'll give our best ๐
slate salmon
new material!
gaunt copper
I started stream showing our current work
https://www.twitch.tv/shadowriver
keen flame
do blueprints have a do while loop?
cant get the regular while loop to work
actually nvm, I'm getting an infinite loop regardless.
tepid light
Another day of work done. Going to sleep. But I'm kinda impressed with my own progress today.
carmine kindle
Dang it, had to restart my PC and windows wouldn't let me do it without installing some kind of major super slow update.
25% done in about 15 minutes, woohoo
keen flame
Is there a way to clone my project but only transfer assets im actually using? Need to cut down on size from the assets im not using
keen flame
nvm figured it out
sharp berry
You can just delete the unused files?
dusky vessel
supple sierra
Almost time for submission on my end wew
Literally all I need to make now is the gameplay footage video and I'm golden
glass fossil
Oh no
Idk what I will do with audio
Because now I don't have it
And I need footsteps, explosion, falling, and some random magic idk what sound xd
supple sierra
Go download Soundly
Epic is opening it up for use
I used it for my game and it was super helpful
It's basically a gigantic database of sound files
tepid light
Im not sure if its bigger, but it's much better IMO
at least in my case.
More useful sounds.
west wing
It allows to add local collections, including Soniss bundles.
Time to add actual levels.
supple sierra
Aesthetic looks great ๐
west wing
Thanks! It was a disaster yesterday.
glass fossil
Whoa that's awesome. Solo developer?
west wing
Still unhappy about the buttons. But I guess it will be waste of time considering I still need essential stuff added.
@glass fossil yes.
glass fossil
Very impressive!
west wing
Really? Thanks!
glass fossil
Yeah man that's pretty insane you did all of that by yourself
I would change the finish level sound effect though ๐
It's a bit jarring compared to the rest
west wing
True. It's actually same music, only started at specific time. I should find better timestamp.
supple sierra
Project has been submitted! ๐
I also just realized there's a typo in my trailer so imma hurry up and fix that
copper carbon
Your games are looking great! Ahhhhhh - I can't wait to play!
supple sierra
Hope you enjoy them Amanda! ๐
Oh and as a quick question @copper carbon , for the gameplay footage thing, would continuous gameplay footage be preferable, or would a trailer with text and more editing be sufficient as well? Since I have two videos here which fall into each category respectively (Uninterrupted gameplay and trailer)
Is there one I should choose, or can I just pick whatever one I like?
copper carbon
๐
Most of the time we only end up showing 15-20 seconds, so the more gameplay the better, IMO.
Let's people get a feel for your game (though does make it hard to find!)
dense sleet
I was going to do a 2/3rds game footage and 1/3rd Sequencer and mix it in as an opening or ending. But not enough time due to work, so it got chopped.
supple sierra
Alright I'll use the mostly unedited gameplay footage video for the that part of the game jam submission then!
The trailer will just stay on the game's own page
near coyote
tepid light
yea... 24h is not a lot.. Still plenty of work left
and looking at some screenshots here and on twitter, this jam looks to have a very high level
near coyote
24h is really not that much. We have still some gameplay to implement and our artist is still working on the player character
proven badge
glass fossil
23hrs seems legit
Tomorrow sch- cough cough shit just doing smthn that I can't not do
So I have about 5 hrs when I'm home tomorrow
Now I'm going to bed
glad gorge
Hell yeah. Crunchnight begins \o/
gaunt copper
Twitter
carmine kindle
Doing sound effects always makes me laugh. I'm not sure if it's the lack of sleep or if it's just inherently silly, but every time I'm just facepalming and thinking "what the hell am I doing". ๐
stable kiln
hmm, crunch with 3 animations and no sound is 500 mb
man filesize is hardlocked on itch submission?
thats bull
keen flame
welcome to ue4
carmine kindle
I have no idea what it is or how it works, but apparently there's the Butler tool on itch.io that lets you do bigger than 1 gb uploads.
stable kiln
you can add an external file, is that valid?
tepid light
My game was 460 MB zipped this morning. This might go up (since I added assets) or down (since I will be removing unused stuff), but that's pretty huge either way for me.
glad gorge
Change LOD Bias on textures, should help a lot ๐
glad gorge
oh noes... a very important part of gameplay isn't working anymore... and the guy who did it is sleeping x)
keen flame
can level blueprints not override gamemode variables?
or set I mean?
I'm setting a gamemode variable to 0 in the level blueprint, but its still firing
nvm that's what child blueprints are for xD
gaunt copper
level blueprint is complitly diffrent class
unrealted to game mode
it is ALevelScriptActor is i rember right
something liek that
dusky vessel
Firesaurus Rex! will be the name of our submission
slate salmon
do we need to package for shipping or dev?
supple sierra
Package for shipping if you're submitting
Packaging for dev is only if you're still testing
slate salmon
alright thanks ๐
dense sleet
LAST MINUTE CRUNCHING BATTLE-CRY!!
proven badge
ayeeeee
supple sierra
Remember to share your games when you're all done, I want to see what all of you guys have made ๐
carmine kindle
Woohoo, all done and submitted. Now I can catch up with all the work I've been expertly avoiding for the last few days. ๐
supple sierra
Nice!
carmine kindle
supple sierra
I completely destroyed my sleep schedule the past four days but was magically able to recover on today which was the day I had to go to work
So it all turned out alright lmao
dense sleet
Doesn't look like I'll be making it in time either. Unless things start working right in the next 3 hours.
carmine kindle
Is anyone foolishly brave enough this time to stream playing through the games?
carmine kindle
People tend to be all excited and happy for the first 20-30 games and then you can see the life be drained out of them by the seemingly endless stack of impossible puzzle/platformer games.
supple sierra
Yeah it depends on how many games there are
In a game jam I was a part of a year ago, a guy just asked for people to tell him to play and stream their games instead of going through the entire list
Which was really helpful in filtering out a lot
I think he played around 70-100 on stream and was very cheerful throughout the most of it
dense sleet
The last Jam I was in, in I think Nov was like 270 entries.
dense sleet
sheeeesh
supple sierra
This was our game
I worked with an artist friend of mine and he's very good which helped boost our aesthetic score up a lot
I was originally going to jam with him on this time's spring ue4 jam but he had somewhere to be on short notice so I went ahead and jam'd by myself
carmine kindle
I keep wanting to find a team for one of these, but I'm never even sure I want to jam until the last minute and then it's too late.
supple sierra
Ye I'm very thankful to have my friend
dense sleet
I just don't feel comfortable with trying to jam with a team yet.
supple sierra
He's really good at art and I'm mostly interested in programming so we compliment each other perfectly
dense sleet
I need some normal team exp first. I'm constantly soloing everything.
supple sierra
Jamming with friends is a good place to start because as friends you already naturally have some understanding and epxectations of what to expect from each other
As opposed to going in blind with a stranger
Having a common understanding makes work a LOT more efficient
dense sleet
My only friend I have worked with is already in a studio and does freelance on the side. I'm gonna ask me to do the next Jam with me. Because going solo is fine IF you start on time, if you start late (Like I did last time) or you can't work but a few hours a night (Like this time) than you're in for a hurting.
I still can't get the game play proper.
supple sierra
Ye if you wanna do a jam it's usually the best experience if you fully commit
You're already going to be strapped for time, having even less of it is only going to make it worse
dense sleet
We got 8 hours. If I can fix the game play in 4 or even rewrite it in 5, I should make it.
dense sleet
I might just have to cheapen it, and built in an auto function to replace what the player should be doing on their own. (Changing into a house hold object to hide from the AI on the table.)
supple sierra
Yeah if you're running low on time, compromises will sometimes have to be made
dense sleet
I HATE taking away from the player but I also want to get the idea across.
supple sierra
Yeah I see what you mean
There are ways to set things up so that the idea is still conveyed without taking away from the player's control
One of the lazier but still efficient ways, and what I did in my entry this time, was to have tutorial text as part of the world that the player can read while still playing
And also have an applicable scenario right close to it
So that I don't technically "force" them to do anything
But still provide them the opprotunity to learn the mechanic
dense sleet
Mines more Concept-Jam 2018 ๐คฃ
dense sleet
Damn straight!
slate salmon
is there a quick way to light all my levels decently without building light for them all?
i tried switching the directional light to movable but the old ugly shadows are still there
(the only light source is directional)
carmine kindle
I always just set everything to dynamic in game jams.
carmine kindle
Well sometimes you need to give your objects a little nudge too.
dense sleet
I'm not seeing a way that you can update the lighting without rebuilding it. Still looking tho
Try static lighting
slate salmon
will do, thanks ๐
dense sleet
If i'm understanding you correctly. That will be the fastest rendering times
tepid light
7 hours, 30 min o go... So lets assume its 3, just to be safe - Wayyyy to little time ๐
Once again, I'm way over with the scope of the game
keen flame
yeah man this is my first game jam ever lol learned sooooo much tho so far
supple sierra
I calculated my scope just about right, finished one day ahead of schedule
Just in case of emergency
west wing
Can we update our itch submissions before deadline?
west wing
I finished my game and want to submit, but I want to add more levels and maybe gameplay features.
Okay, good to know, thank you @supple sierra.
stable kiln
dont make more lvls, make ur 1st levels better if ur gunna do anything
90% of entries wil never get played til the end
supple sierra
You should be able to upload new files and take down old ones
If you want to be sure though, give Amanda a ping and ask her
west wing
If you use UPX for exe and dlls, unzipped game will be about the size of the zip.
tepid light
I'm building my first "release candidate"... But I will probably work till last possible minute. I should probably upload something now and update it, just in case my net dies or something. ๐
tepid light
Well, as long as it's before the deadline I don't see why not
Im not sure if itch allows it.
somber hazel
but update personal information? that would be great to know
tepid light
oh, shit... I don't have a name for my game
foggy shard
name of a team
I will hope that team mate will wake up in time to give his personal info
sharp berry
Just smash the hand on the keybord. What ever the output is, add a vowel and you have a name
Ohudepu as example
west wing
Damn. I already came up with stupidest name possible.
Should use keyboard smash method.
tepid light
Team name doesn't matter. But game name can be pretty useful. Especially now, that they are all on itch.
slate salmon
so who here pulled an all-nighter? โ
sharp berry
Not me. With a 3.5 month old baby and day job, I decided to throw the white towel and just work it out to a mini game the coming days
dense sleet
I slowed my roll but I'm still grinding.
dense sleet
I'm sorry to say I'm throwing in the towel. Gotta go help my Dad in 1 hour, and won't be back in time.
It sucks so bad to not met a deadline but that's the risk we all take. And honestly I'm not even that down about it. Because I have a basis for a decently fun and interesting game I can expand on later if I want to revisit it. To everyone that already submitted my hats off to you. And to everyone still whipping it 'til ya bones collapse. I'm rooting for you!!
glass fossil
how much time left until deadline?
glad gorge
Oh damnnnn ! starting the first build soon, but some things still need to be implemented ๐ฎ
glass fossil
oh so i did all my meth math correctly
glad gorge
my first gamejam in a team... and teamplay is really the hardest thing about getting a thing finished. I feel bad, but the level designer just didn't do a great job, so i have to build the main level now last minute.... but i feel kind of wrong for deleting some of his stuff... maybe my expactations are too high or I'm ashamed of my lack in communication skills ... ๐ฆ
west wing
It took me some time to submit the game. Well, it is possible to rush it, but it is not done in 3 minutes.
hasty glacier
Just wanted to share my team's submission:
https://youtu.be/KhSYq2tKAR4
Feedback and critique welcome :)
dusky vessel
Uploaded my game to Itch.io but it won't let me submit anything as my team's thing for some reason
west wing
@dusky vessel I had some problems too. Did you make the game public? It won't see the draft and private pages.
west wing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqWKzy_D9iU
Here is mine.
glass fossil
lol i had 5 mins for the goal being achieved
and i did it in under 3 mins
gotta update timer
keen flame
how do you make a video of your game?
tepid light
I use shadowplay
west wing
I use OBS.
keen flame
Oh I have OBS nice
But when I click start recording, it doesnt save my videos lol
no clue why
nvm fixed it
safe island
Yea, anything to cap your screen is the best bet, OBS, Shadowplay, FRAPS, etc
weary sleet
Guys does Unreal allow late submission at least 30 minutes late just in case the build takes a longer time
keen flame
We need to zip up the build right?
sharp berry
deadline = deadline
west wing
It still exists?
keen flame
can OBS cut parts out of a movie?
west wing
I use it for recording only. I'd just cut with ffmpeg. Isn't especially convenient, but I don't do a lot of video editing. I binded OBS toggle shortcut to Scroll Lock, so, videos usually timed as needed.
sharp berry
you could always do video editting with Blender
neat leaf
hey guys, can I edit the stuff after i've submitted? forgot to list a preexisting asset
sharp berry
not when the deadline passed
neat leaf
has the deadline passed? thought it was a couple more hours
west wing
Yes, it is possible.
sharp berry
1hour and 46min left
west wing
Go to your jem page (url like: https://itch.io/jam/2018-spring-ue4jam/rate/258006 ), there is blue button:
https://i.imgur.com/gq5FJTj.png
I slowly edit this page myself.
It is possible to reupload the game also.
neat leaf
ah, thanks!
stable kiln
Is it just me that thinks its weird handing out expensive prizes to finalists when there is no way to check if they cheated?
glass fossil
Couldn't get file size under 100MB ๐ฉ
sharp berry
@stable kiln thats been my thought with every jam ๐
spend 3 months on it and just package before the deadline
stable kiln
a few SSds in a raffle for every entry is fun but this makes no sense
tepid light
pfff.. I'm done.
Still, something like 10 things I need to fix.. but I can't be bothered anymore
sharp berry
@stable kiln then even still, nothing prevents you from buying stuff from the marketplace and use it in the jam. Winning entries did it before
stable kiln
yea but some entries that shouldnt have been valid have won B4 aswel
tepid light
Well, I used marketplace content this time for the first time.
๐
Almost all my assets.
But I worked solo.
dense sleet
@tepid light That looks like Earth bending so that's awesome. And over all it looks like a top down free style angry birds'ish controls. All in all it looks fun!
sharp berry
would be nice if the entries would be 'validated' and cheaters get a life-time ban from joining jams
tepid light
It would be nice. sure.
glass fossil
Dat crunch: https://tommyzhanj.itch.io/pleinair
sharp berry
to avoid massive work, just validate the potential winners
tepid light
but how would you validate them?
sharp berry
well, they send you the message "You won! Send us the project source files to validate"
if cought cheating, move to the next place
tepid light
Last time someone made a VR game and they had dev logs on youtube from 3 months back working on it ;P
sharp berry
well, if you put it in the content disclosure, its within rules
tepid light
I seriously doubt they would have time to validate an entry like that.. It would take more time then it is worth it
you could work on something for 3 months and then port it to the new project or something
no way of checking when something was made.
sharp berry
files have creation date and modify date
tepid light
only thing they can rly do is just kick stuff that doesn't stick to the theme.
stable kiln
yea but u can import fbx
sharp berry
even the creator of a file can be easily traced
stable kiln
and copy paste BPs
sharp berry
yea true, but if you want to go that deep in cheating, you earn a kings seat in hell ๐
dense sleet
^
stable kiln
just sayin the honor system wont work verry well when 2k$ laptops are involved
west wing
Still, someone could memorize whole game and just place nodes from muscle memory.
sharp berry
@west wing if you can do that, by all means, please take first place
stable kiln
this is kinda called practice tho ๐
maiden loom
generally speaking the winners should fit the theme, so it should be difficult to win by trying to mash an existing game into the theme
it usually shows
tepid light
But winners don't always do that
stable kiln
theme usually doesnt count as heavy as lookin good
tepid light
There is a cateogry for theme, visuals and gameplay. and they all should fit the theme... but they often dont
sharp berry
some themes can be interpeted generic, like transformation (its fits like 80% of all games where something transforms)
tepid light
also.. for the theme like transformation... everything can fit in some way
maiden loom
I would suggest that's a flaw in the judging criteria; matching the theme well should be essential to even be considered a winner
tepid light
"I'm transforming enemies from alive to dead!" or "From humans to a pile of ash" ๐
and boom, any shooter fits
dense sleet
The effort of deep code cheating, VS putting up a long time project and just showing how you implemented the random theme. Just showing how you adapted the theme into it would do you way more good.
sharp berry
"Im transforming my ammo count from 30 to 29 by pressing MainFire"
tepid light
yeah. That would be great. theme above all
west wing
There probably jams with more restrictions. Working in some event hall on-site while being watched, using defined low-level toolset, etc.
tepid light
The problem isn't IMO using a complete game. Even creating a "template" with FPS movement, AI, menus, saves, anim bp, etc.
this can save like a week of work
and people do that. And even sell that on the marketplace
dense sleet
When a game Jam looks and feels like a Pokemon card tournament. XD
tepid light
anyway... I need to eat ๐ Super tired. But it was fun working on this jam.
west wing
I used framework myself.
tepid light
I don't think my game is super fun compared to others I made - As usual it suffers from last of balance
but it was a lot of fun making it.
west wing
Without it, I would just spend whole 5 days doing it.
stable kiln
I made some super cool stuff but no1 wil ever see it ๐
dense sleet
Prizes are nice, but to me the Jams are just personal challenges.
tepid light
I don't use anything like that. The only thing I had "premade": I have marketplace content downloaded and sorted. But thats fall all projects. not this specific one.
Sure, its a personal challange. And making a game is the best part.. but winning is also very rewarding.
when people appreciate your work and effort.
west wing
@dense sleet for me, it was general interest in jamming, since I never participated before.
sharp berry
I hope that some times a "Unreal Epic Month Jam" comes along, so people with less free time on their hands can make something nice too ๐
west wing
There are different jams going constantly, check itch jams page.
dense sleet
This was my second one. Last one was the last of 2017s. That was literally no sleep for 2 days XD because I goofed on the start date.
tepid light
Yeah, that woudn;t work for me..
stable kiln
filesize ended 3 gig and kinda needed 12 more hours to finish it
stable kiln
but it looked freakin awwsome ๐
west wing
There are probably some long-therm too.
tepid light
Yeah, Next time I need to make it a hard rule: Last day is only for polish and bug fixes, no new content.
I didn't even have a complete game 4h ago
sharp berry
@west wing I know, every month I look around, but so far I've only done Epic Jams. The others feel like a stranger saying hi to me (STRANGER DANGER!)
tepid light
Plus, UE4Jams have cool rewards ๐
sharp berry
That too, and seeing what other people made that you speak in here is cool too
Making you watch the Playtrough stream
dense sleet
Check out Virtus Dev Squad's discord they run Jam's with decent prizes and partnerships from Epic.
stable kiln
well too bad, this game would have blown gameymcgameface out of the water in terms of weirdness
west wing
@tepid light I planned to make quick mechanic, and polish it for the rest.
sharp berry
@dense sleet thanks for the tip, I've joined it for the next one
keen flame
just submitted. woo what a weekend
west wing
It was a big miscalculation.
raven sundial
Just wanted to check that we just upload our game to itch.io right? Is there any check box or anything we need to check?
west wing
Upload, make public and fill submit form on jam page.
raven sundial
k grt
west wing
If everything is correct, it will show in entries immediately.
dense sleet
Well good luck to ALL. And I'll definitely be back for the next Jam. And bringing so much more with me, like the source code and better prepping for sure.
I look forward to seeing everyone's work during the live stream!
velvet sorrel
GoodLuck Everyone!!! โค
west wing
Hope to see more jamming tools in future. For example, I doubt it is possible for developer to learn about Houdini 3 weeks before the jam (from announce page) and use it somehow. But if it had some rapid level-generation toolset, it would be quite a different story.
I should probably release my own toolkit somewhere, to contribute to the idea.
sand edge
Finally submitted our jam project! 8 am here in Tahiti... one more sleepless night... time to go to bed ๐ด
btw, here's our gameplay trailer, hope you'll like it ๐
https://youtu.be/ecmMNWF9wDs
west wing
@sand edge just watched it. Awesome!
sand edge
Thanks a lot @west wing
sand edge
We put a secret spot in the game where you can trigger alternative "transformed" sound effects ๐
safe island
45 minutes!
near coyote
Use Bitbucket with its provided git lfs during jam
Slowly fill lfs storage without realizing
1h before jam ends LFS storage is full, no more pushes
Activate panic mode
stable kiln
i couldnt finish, half a day short
supple sierra
Friend helped me find some improvements that could be made
Finished uploading 30 minutes before final deadline wew
Got some decent improvements in!
west wing
I became lazy after upload. Planned to add features (make better buttons), but didn't move a finger after that. Upload late, people!
glass fossil
have to package it too
terse current
Packaging and screenshots and video took a while but I am done/
supple sierra
Go snap some random pictures at least D:
west wing
Submitting took me ~2 hours, but for the first time it's ok, I suppose.
terse current
Same about 2h to submit
glass fossil
oke
terse current
But this includes two last second bugs
glass fossil
how to access highres screenshots?
west wing
Me too. I forgot to unbypass savegame.
west wing
terse current
In the game's saved folder
take another screenshot and click on the link to the folder in the bottom right
west wing
It's Project/Saved/Screenshots/Windows/ for me.
west wing
Looks sexy.
glass fossil
i have only 2 pics
i love that cloud DitherTemporalAA effect
haha its 91mb
I submitted game, im at its page rn so its all i have to do?
but i still have "Submit Your Project" thing on jam page
supple sierra
Once you have a game page up
Go back to Submit at the Game Jam page
It will now display your game to be allowed for submission
glass fossil
supple sierra
Now fill in the fields and you should be good!
west wing
It's ten minutes left.
glass fossil
where do i add screenshots?
supple sierra
Game page edit
glass fossil
and i can edit it after submitting to jam
glass fossil
aw i feel so good pressing Submit button
supple sierra
Niiicee
west wing
https://itch.io/jam/2018-spring-ue4jam/feed
Don't see it there.
glass fossil
and when you edit the game itself where do i add screenshots? xd
oh nvm
on the right
west wing
Ah, it's "Dried Out". No cover.
west wing
Yep, I see the cover now.
glass fossil
i almost forgot about submitting while playing fortnite xd
good that i looked at time
west wing
People still submitting. It must be stressful to submit 5 days of work in last 5 minutes. Especially when a large scary form with a lot of mandatory fields appear.
glass fossil
i would estimate my time spent on this is about 7-8 hrs
safe island
The last minute
glass fossil
novel incoming from Glunder...
safe island
30 seconds!
west wing
Time is up! Good luck everyone!
glass fossil
i doubt that 30 secs is enough to do all that form
near coyote
safe island
165 total
near coyote
just in time :D
glass fossil
lol was 111 10 mins ago
lament oar
I hope all of you jamming have taken a shower. Smells like wet socks in here !
glass fossil
i bet someone was like 5 seconds late to finish the submission form,would be so sad
west wing
Submitted by ... with 25 seconds before the deadline
glass fossil
if someone submitted 1 second before deadline hes a real man
supple sierra
So does anyone know when the winners will be announced?
marsh oxide
did i manage to submit or not ? ๐
near coyote
@marsh oxide have a look at the submission feed
glass fossil
ok so i have to go ๐ฆ
lament oar
I submit my game. It's called "Submit 1 minute late Emulator". It seems there are no bugs on release. ยฌ_ยฌ
spice flame
is it possible that i deleted my submission for the jam?
i have pressed something, I havent seen it because it was grey on grey and now I cant find it in the submissions
glass fossil
its my 2nd game that i finished
i feel good
and now peace im out
cuz gtg
๐
marsh oxide
well, i submitted in the last minute, maybe i was too late ... thou no error or nothing
supple sierra
Rest well peeps!
spice flame
i submitted like five minutes before it ended, but I think i deleted it :/ well fail xD
west wing
I'd at least compute hash sum on the archive I planned to submit and publish it online.
I doubt it will work, though.
But if I hosted a jam, I'd allow such submissions.
thorn quartz
I spent 3 hours at troubleshooting engine and windows sdk and I got Error_UnknownCookFailure again ๐ก
(โฏยฐโกยฐ๏ผโฏ๏ธต โปโโป
west wing
Plugins?
thorn quartz
Nope
west wing
Try to clean project directory.
west wing
Leaving only .uproject file, content and config folders.
marsh oxide
yeah ... i can not see my submission ๐ฆ
supple sierra
It's late here so I'll try and play everyone's games tomorrow ๐
wind mica
tried to go "story" driven this time, have to try new things at the end of the day!
west wing
At least someone did it.
glass fossil
Pew pew pew
terse current
nice animation
glass fossil
So do we just give you the VR award now?
warm marlin
My teams submission:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TypANH5k9Lo
raven sundial
Are we allowed to edit our download page after the cut off?
spice flame
Could anyone please check if he can find a submission with the Name "Shapeformer"?
wind mica
can't see it
supple sierra
@proven badge Which submission is yours? I wanna try that game out for sure ๐
west wing
https://david-gamedev.itch.io/shapeformer
It was only uploaded to itch.
spice flame
:/ well, guess I am out, thanks anyways :/
proven badge
@supple sierra https://slapunas.itch.io/riseofthebotsvr
supple sierra
๐
wind mica
@spice flame it is really confusing if you didn't submit for a jam before
proven badge
bear in mind, it's designed for 2 players
spice flame
the thing is, I did already one i think. But I acutally hit submit on the uejam page, and submitted the game, then I clicked something, and it was gone
proven badge
you'll need a partner mate ๐
west wing
@spice flame I don't think it's too late. Just don't change anything and contact someone.
marsh oxide
@west wing who can we contact ? i don't see my submission too
west wing
Dunno. Maybe @copper carbon can answer this?
rapid musk
I'm done with trying for jams. Each and every time I either don't get a team or I have other stuff crop up making the 5 days go down to 1 day or both. Had to leave the jam because all I managed to get done in the time I had left after crises in RL was one room. That I couldn't even get to launch on my phone thanks to subpar development equipment
west wing
I had positive experience. Almost regret I didn't participate earlier.
gaunt copper
here our entry
sadly is not really completed we rushed on level design
on last day ^^'
and incidently left one placeholder ;p
west wing
Me too. But I had, like, 3 objects to arrange, so, I was able to make 5 levels.
gaunt copper
but atl;east is better then our entry in megajam imo
thats better then us
we only abled to pull 2 ssections
its quite short
Somebody gonan do entry stream :>
?
entry showcase stream?
fallow lion
here our entry https://twitter.com/immiddlle/status/996459874732175360?s=20
spice flame
I even included the great unbaked lightning info for everyone to know in ๐
stable kiln
spend too much time on asset design so couldnt finish it
that transform button would blow ur mind tho ๐
foggy shard
searching for a team was a great decision. So fun that you can do a lot more with a team
neat leaf
ya i regret trying to solo this one, not enough time to art and code
west wing
I actually enjoyed doing solo.
Working out really nice when you know a bit of everything.
rapid musk
I couldn't get a team going. I signed up for the crowdforge thing and while I was at work, two people joined then left after not getting a response from me. Then someone else joined later on, but never spoke or responded. So ... I ended up being entirely on my own. I know some of most of the steps, but not enough of any of them to go fully on my own. I tried on my own anyway, hoping I'd have enough time after losing three days to a Boy Scout trip with my son and Mother's Day, lol.
Then yesterday ended up being out most of the day as well, so I ended up with about 1.25 days to get something done. I'm lucky I got a room done, lol. Didn't get to any coding and didn't even get to see if I got the scale right in my Gear VR (couldn't get it to launch from my laptop)
gaunt copper
IF no body gonna do showcase stream... i gonna try doing onwe tommorow... im to tired right now to start it :p
i got fasts internet so for me downloading entries should be fast
carmine kindle
Pretty much, yes
foggy shard
@rapid musk you got to advertise your team searching thing
I found my team there
also if you understand what people you actually need helps
rapid musk
I did advertise as much as I could. Posted on Facebook and Twitter and got retweeted by (presumably) a bot or two, lol. Guess I should've posted here as well?
Either way, it didn't work out for me very well. Maybe it will next time, but for right now, I'm just licking my wounds and trying not to get too bummed about failing on the jam. Need to focus on the fact that I did get something done, even if it wasn't submission-worthy
near coyote
Our trailer didn't make it in time, but here it finally is:
proven badge
https://gfycat.com/RespectfulFlatHarborporpoise BRiiiiiiing... damn this ended up lookin so smooth
glad gorge
Hell yeah, finally all forum posts are done and now i can enjoy the jam afterparty ๐
spice flame
yeah, sleep is a good idea now ๐
glad gorge
hell yeah. ๐
we submitted just 8 minutes before the deadline, the last upload % took sooo damn long. rly scary ^^
white crown
I was packaging at last hour. took so long. it was really scary
need some McDonalds tonight to calm down
dusky vessel
Wait a minute - I was supposed to make a forum post like in the old jams along with the itchio submission?!
carmine kindle
I don't think so, that wasn't even necessary last time. As long as you filled out the submission form, it's good.
copper carbon
@dusky vessel nah - some people just like sharing there ๐
raven sundial
@Amanda Bott#4365 We can continue to spice up our download page right?
copper carbon
Absolutely!
wise apex
hey is it too late to start 
glad gorge
Can we rate the games or is rating limited to unreal staff? I can't find any button ๐ฎ
glass fossil
Ok I got some sleep
Gg people
I like jamming
Heh I got a comment on my game, for the first time ( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
And I felt good reading it
robust basalt
any playthrough streams yet?
glass fossil
I think you should ping @epic staff oh wait it isn't mentionable
sharp berry
Its disabled to avoid spam
glass fossil
then ping all of epic staff manually ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
just dont tell them that i suggested this
gaunt copper
Ok no body doing it so i try to do it :p starting UE4 GameJam entry showcase stream, i will be playing in submission chronolectal order https://www.twitch.tv/shadowriver
glass fossil
๐
raven sundial
@gaunt copper Not sure if you got to CastleDayโs WarHill yet but give me a heads up before you log in and I will get on too!
west wing
@gaunt copper I don't think it is necessary to search for latest version in feed, since links lead to the same page with most recent release.
tepid light
To those who played games: Anything worth playing / any recommendations?
robust basalt
quite surprisingly a ball game
rigid fog
Ball games do pretty well actually @robust basalt , not sure if y'all remember the soccer game, where you turn into the soccer ball itself?
robust basalt
ya, remember that
rigid fog
@robust basalt You have a link to this new one?
robust basalt
damn, there are a lot of games this time around
glass fossil
@rigid fog https://tylercowan.itch.io/skyward
robust basalt
oh ya, that one
robust basalt
ball rolling game
rigid fog
Grr, wish I had time to have participated in this one
Ah, that's nice
Kept it simple
robust basalt
super polished and well designed
rigid fog
Oh, you transform the ball to get through the course
Yeah, it's super simple concepts that usually do well
They have the time to just grind polish
@glass fossil ty btw
dusky vessel
@gaunt copper Hey I watched your play-through of my jam entry, the one with the girl and fire and the dinosaur. If you make your camera stick out to the side instead of have it behind you all the time, the platforming is much easier!
Thank you for playing it though!
compact cedar
SkyWard is the one of the best games this jam has.
supple sierra
I should have some extra free time this weekend, so if anyone wants me to play their entry, either ping me with what it is or DM it to me. I'll try and leave my thoughts in the comments after playing!
rigid fog
@compact cedar Did you participate? link?
compact cedar
@rigid fog yeah, but screwed, again... https://shadowriverue4.itch.io/enter-the-zone
compact cedar
@rigid fog also, look at the comment section https://itch.io/jam/2018-spring-ue4jam/rate/258204
compact cedar
i'm trying to fix all of it, hope @gaunt copper will assist me (i have no clue how the logic work, it is in cpp)