also, I'm using their ssd right now on my pc
#game-jam-chat
zenith gust
It's different for different counties, but in general I think that it's only the sweepstakes that require people to be of age, as that's lottery/gambling. For the skill-based part of the contest, I think the reason there's an age requirement is that epic has to have you agree on a contract upon entering the contest, partially to allow them to use your submissions for promotional purposes etc. And as a minor you can't agree to a contract in many/most countries.
zenith gust
haha
glass fossil
another novel incoming
zenith gust
Possibly there are work-arounds in that minors enter a separate contest, or their submissions wont be shown, etc etc. In the end it's up to epic to try and make the best they can of the situation without having to dedicate too much extra time/money to it.
Again the above are just my interpretations of it all, IANAL etc
vagrant wharf
I read about Swedens laws and it said that you can't have a paid contract deal when you are under 18
glass fossil
i will still submit it, in notes will note that im 14 :/ so idk if they will include it
grizzled zenith
or just do like me and ingore it and win anyway
glass fossil
lol
vagrant wharf
But my game ain't even almost finished so i probably won't win anyway
glass fossil
same
rigid fog
Hmm
Interesting, didn't know you were 16 @grizzled zenith
That would explain a few things
rahahhaha
j/k
Interesting to see how many incredibly talented youngins' we got
glass fossil
well im not rly talented
rigid fog
My bad
glass fossil
xd
glass fossil
yes ๐
rigid fog
k
proven badge
๐ค @grizzled zenith that explains when you said you had to go school. I assumed you ment uni
grizzled zenith
yeah, half of fridays go there
rigid fog
@proven badge lolol
Yeah, I had the same thought
Man, I know it's probably not right, and somewhat illegal, but I would love to know everyone's age on this server.
Or probably more legal and safer. Anonymous Poll to see the age groups
zenith gust
I'm honestly very impressed, sure I messed around with some programming and game modding at those ages, but not anything that would come close to get anywhere in a gamejam ^^
rigid fog
Aye
I wish I was 16 again ๐
WITH my current knowledge
Or how the world works
And all that jazz
zenith gust
that'd be cheating ๐
zenith gust
Trying to determine how big of a scope something has is so hard, on saturday I felt I knew roughly what I had left to make and how long that would take, but as always I now find myself with so many things I thought I would do that I forgot to include in the time plan
Better focus on getting something that plays well tonight and tomorrow evening, and give up on the visuals a bit for now
proven badge
good rule of thumb. estimate your time needed., and double it
zenith gust
haha yeah, I thought I had done that fairly well, but apparently not ๐
@proven badge how is it going for your team, are you on time? Looks like you got a good amount of characters at least from all the tweets
proven badge
a bit behind, cutting features ๐
on the edge i'd say
but all jams been like that so it's normal at this point
zenith gust
Sounds normal yeah, I think I've cut half of my features so far ๐
proven badge
if you call that one feature
we had 9, shrank to 3, and probably cut that out too ๐
hearty ferry
I was going to have 3 different kinds of enemies, with different ways of defeating them, but ended up cutting all but 1 (which was way more powerful at first as well), plus the story side I'm cutting out mostly
hearty ferry
I mean, I'd put hints to the story in the environment, not have cutscenes or anything story heavy, just a small amount of backstory to explain what's happening in the game
But now my custom menu's still don't work lol so definitely won't have time to put the story elements in in any way
Like, UI is always a pain to do, but in VR you can't just use a UI bp to create a menu so it's even more work, and it not working the way you'd expect it to work makes it even more difficult
zenith gust
I've got a 2 sentence story as text at the start, feels like plenty ๐
@hearty ferry yeah UX in general for VR is a lot of work to make it even decent
hearty ferry
I just have a button blueprint which on spawning can get a text set on it (like "play", "quit", etc.) and you can set what it should do (load level x, quit game, restart current level, etc.), then I spawn those in around the player depending on situation, and by grabbing them they get executed
nova oxide
when we package our game, should it be shipping/64 bit build?
proven badge
most people normally do
nova oxide
and can we put it into a 7z file or would .zip be preferable?
robust basalt
most people actually build development/64bit
this way you give people access to console to change res and quit
just in case you don't have time to add those things
nova oxide
ah ok, that's a good point
proven badge
damn, this new inbuilt cloth solver is awsum
hearty ferry
I'm having a bug where randomly an object won't show in the right position after scaling the parent object, yet the hitbox, events, everything it does is happening in the right place... I don't need these kind of bugs so close to the deadline lol
hearty ferry
Basically all the gameplay is relying on this, can't just work around it somehow... why you do this to me UE4 ๐
rigid fog
At least you have gameplay!
hearty ferry
Well I mean, it's your hands (I'm making a VR game), so not being able to use them is kind of difficult lol
True, very buggy gameplay, but gameplay nonetheless
Also have a bug where you can use a flashlight and make the enemies float using it since they avoid light so they'll stand on the beam if you aim right under them and move up
"So many bugs, so little time" <- that's gonna be my game's name
zenith gust
Bugs, bugs everywhere ๐
Just wasted 1 hours debugging my materials, not knowing what changes could have broken my lighting. If I hadn't been as sleep-deprived then maybe I would have double-checked earlier, turns out most of the big meshes for that part had a lightmap size of 64x64 ^^
maiden loom
bugs build character :p
acoustic crater
@rigid fog https://gyazo.com/2a940c785cd1e93cc8fec03e26b7e377 I call my Bugs Features ;P
rigid fog
@acoustic crater feature ship it
The art looks amazing
Super jelly of your art team ๐
dusky vessel
I like the art as well @acoustic crater
rigid fog
@uneven basin Looking good! keep it up!
crisp coyote
still waiting for lots of art, but here is my anim test
lol i just realised the leaf he should be sitting on is gone
stray crag
how's everyone holdin up?
crisp coyote
dying.. you?
stray crag
.... >_<
yeah
I'm not jamming but have to rearchitect a project
nice build you have there though @crisp coyote
rigid fog
All 2017 MegaJam submissions MUST go through this form : https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfuFo5Cr6P8-dVSEn1X8zkPXr-8uvoDEOJVKnTCo-pW8cyelw/viewform
@summer urchin since you're awake, can you pin that please?
summer urchin
crisp coyote
I see the form, but is there a server where we upload to?
rigid fog
google drive
cedar spindle
Do you know if there will there also be a submission thread similar to previous jams? It's fun to see everyone else's games and play them.
rigid fog
@cedar spindle yes
already one up
I think they didn't make it too obvious with the title
because they don't want people to just submit there
cedar spindle
Ah, I think I may have found it. "Epic MegaJam Game Thread"?
cedar spindle
rigid fog
@cedar spindle they wanted a direct link last I heard
so google drive etc
to prevent cheating
but no idea
Things change
you should read the rules
I haven't ๐ญ
glass fossil
Wait when is the deadline
3pm?
Or midnight
It is 1 day, 12 hours, 55 minutes
K
I'm confused with the Grand Prize judging. So each submission is rated out of 15 and the top three are the Grand Prize winners?
maiden loom
there is only one grand prize winner
glass fossil
My bad, I meant finalists
maiden loom
Three 'finalist' teams, one winning team
glass fossil
Does the winning team win anything? I can't seem to see anything on the thread
maiden loom
GLORY
rigid fog
@maiden loom ?
glass fossil
๐
maiden loom
there is no prize for winning, just prizes for being in the top 3 finals
rigid fog
3 grand prize suckers
maiden loom
and yes, there are also 3 special categories
rigid fog
Only 2 random people from the top 3 grand prize suckers
maiden loom
(but the special cats wasn't the question)
rigid fog
go home with sexy ass shit
I say grand prize suckers, but I just want to make sure that everyone knew
You have 6 chances to win
Not 3, or 1
6 out of whatever number valid submissions
But imho, you're a winner if you just submit something cool and had fun
glass fossil
Guess I should rephrase my original question. So each submission is rated out of 15 and the top three are finalists?
maiden loom
yes
glass fossil
๐
glass fossil
@rigid fog I saw that your team was one of the finalists for the last game jam. How many levels did you have for your game?
glass fossil
Shit I was in the 95% lol
glass fossil
Are you doing levels as well? If so, how many are you aiming for?
glass fossil
This is my first game jam so not sure how much content they're expecting
same, first game im making and finishing
everything i did before this wasnt finished xd
maiden loom
as much content as the game needs to demonstrate the game, I guess
glass fossil
theyre not expecting a black guy walking around the level who kills player, hope it scares em
rigid fog
I won't lie
if you waste my time
by making me walk around in the dark doing nothing
I won't be playing much
glass fossil
I wonder if the Overall Visuals criteria should also include audio
Otherwise there's not much incentive for audio people to participate
hearty ferry
Finally have most/all bugs out, plus have some modular level art, just need to pump out some more levels today and I'll be finished in time
dull pendant
feels good to do a play test with your flat mate and the game doesn't horribly break
austere swift
i got all my art assets done
just need to make a game with them.... ill see what can i do with the level design
glass fossil
Best level design is random with c++ or blueprint :D
austere swift
thats for my next game lol
for this thing ive decided to do it enterely with houdini procedural modelling
as an excersise
good thing is that all my art is very consistent, becouse its run through the same formulas
uneven basin
you can't use copyrighted stuff if you plan to win grand prizes
as in, can't download it "from google"
glass fossil
I'm not planning it when I saw others people work
I will not be near the first lines :D but I hope I won't be last ๐
zenith gust
Hard to convey with a still image, but basically the goal is to lead these light beams through nodes, and combine into a rainbow. When a node gets one or several connections to it, it lights up the surroundings in that colour, everything else is extremely dark. And the player can't walk in the darkness, so the light spheres have to be managed
not working perfectly but it is working ๐
glass fossil
Nice
dawn garden
crisp coyote
how do you guys make these fancy gifs?
@dawn garden love that background! game seems interesting
dawn garden
i use sharex
the background is actually just the default skysphere with really tiny changes to the material to make the clouds lower
maiden loom
run out of critical work to do in the job, so took the day off to do some jamming ๐
glass fossil
nearly don dressing the level ๐ฎ
only need to do the empty-ish green areas, and some artsy asset placement, but the main structure is done
lighting needs updating as wel :p
dull pendant
@glass fossil leave that up to the player :v
glass fossil
@dull pendant true that!
austere swift
damn, that looks good
limpid dagger
๐
glass fossil
ok now i will finish the game ending
glass fossil
i still dont know what backdrop to make ๐
uneven basin
past that it's tweaking
glass fossil
i just look out the window and its just skybox and infinite void xd
wait how do i remove that "lighting has to be rebuilt"?
build
haha
top middle, there's a small arrow next to build, click build lighting only
that should do it
ik
but after building i move all static meshes because theyre black and they become normal
but then that message pops up
zenith gust
@glass fossil them being black are due to the shadows being baked when you build lighting. When you move the meshes those shadows are no longer shown as they need to be rebuilt, which is why ti tells you to rebuild
You will need to tweak your lighting so that it looks good when built
glass fossil
they dont have uv mapping btw
the meshes that light up incorrectly
but i have removed it by in levelBP adding execute console command node with "DISABLEALLSCREENMESSAGES" command
zenith gust
You have to have them at least UV mapped to have a lightmap channel, otherwise they will never get any lightmap baked
hiding the error message like that bites you in the arse now ๐
glass fossil
but when i move them, they look really good in lighting
zenith gust
or do you want them to not be affected by lighting?
zenith gust
when you move them the shadow map is most likely discarded so it shows the lighting without baked shadows
glass fossil
the tables
oke now im ready to package...
but i will add some finishing touches cuz theres 1 more day ๐
zenith gust
Aight, if you need any further help with the lighting you should probably hop over to the graphics channel
glass fossil
well, yeah
austere swift
im starting to package builds, but the thing is half done..
i need to mesh it up a bit and add more map sections
glass fossil
i'm a lighting artist i can help majik
@glass fossil looks to mee like the best/ easiest way for you to fix it is change your lights to movable
this is not ideal for performance reasons though
to fix the black areas in your environment you need a skylight
if you want to continue with static/ stationary lighting is that
i already fixed it
but sky light would ruin the atmosphere
glass fossil
depends on wath you want to go for :p
rigid fog
fml
rigid fog
I don't even have any gameplay done
omg
or art
sooooooooooooo fun
@glass fossil @glass fossil @austere swift yo
glass fossil
my dad will test my game lol
rigid fog
Would you play this game?
austere swift
when my current build ends, ill record a video of the current gameplay i have
glass fossil
i dont understand what it is
rigid fog
ya dont worry
glass fossil
ok i have nothing to say
austere swift
not much tho, i need more levels
rigid fog
nah
rigid fog
Just make one good level man
austere swift
lol good level you say
glass fossil
i have only 1 level
glass fossil
just add a level editor
rigid fog
instant rage quit
austere swift
but my game is about walking around, lost in the darkness
glass fossil
and steam workshop
austere swift
you need to light up the torches
rigid fog
you are a million others
austere swift
everything is super dark
glass fossil
and achievments
rigid fog
This is going to be an interesting playthru
austere swift
i got some combat challenge where shadows attach you from every angle
and a plataforming section
and im preparing a labyrinth
rigid fog
Mine went from pretty damn original to pretty meh
austere swift
becouse i hate players
rigid fog
But I won't lie, having a blast with whatever this thing is
austere swift
ive basically used this thing as an art excersie tho
ive been doing all the art (but characters) myself
for all those simple environment assets
rigid fog
Yea, looks like I'll need to get back into Art man
Which kind of sucks, but whatever
Can't trust artists these days ๐ but some are pretty loyal which in the end is what counts in my book
austere swift
if i had a designer partner (good designer) probably we would win megajam
too bad my ideas are terrible
rigid fog
That's what is nice about knowing the full game dev workflow
austere swift
and i cant level design for siht
rigid fog
Aye, I think that's my major weakpoint as well, LD
And Sound
anything else... I can scrape by pretty well
austere swift
what i can do is good mechanics, core mechanics
glass fossil
my game : u wake up at school at midnight, u have 5 mins to find a flashlight, using that flashlight u have to find a key to closet, when u pick it up, a random black guy is walking around and kills u (#notRacist) if youre not inside a locker (thats how you get past him), you go to closet, unlock it and it gives u a gold key and then u have to go to a front door. oh and if you dont do it in time (5 minutes) you die with a jumpscare which has no sound lol, huh this is a novel...
austere swift
thats why i do vr
sage spoke
Is it okay to share the packaged version if u have submitted the form
austere swift
becouse there, the instant feedback mechanics are important
so i can get very cool shit done
rigid fog
Loyalty is#1 in my book
glass fossil
anyone even read that novel i wrote? :/
sage spoke
People? Is it okay to share the packaged version if you have submitted the game??
rigid fog
Seems pretty triggerhappy imho
sage spoke
Just want to confirm.
rigid fog
I'm sure you're going to get a lot of crap from it
glass fossil
meybe
rigid fog
@sage spoke Share?
I mean, if it's yours
you can do whatever you want
ANyone else's, ask permission, but I don't see why they would mind.
sage spoke
I mean share with others so they can play
austere swift
the cool thing is now i have a pretty nice rocky dungeon procedural set
to reuse on different places
rigid fog
@austere swift Nice! You like working with Houdini?
austere swift
im getting the hang of doing "actual" modelling with it
that door is made 100% inside houdini, all nodes
uses copious amounts of booleans + a few edit nodes to modify vertices directly
it seems very very useful for mechanical/architectural designs
for organic not a damn chance
ill probably try to do a really high quality weapon model soon, to see how far you can take boolean spamming
what makes this very useful is that being a node network, i have the whole "history" of edits.
i can edit anything post-fact. change the dimensions or stuff, or even re-do some vertex editing i did at the start
maiden loom
heh, I normally do design orientated tasks but seem to be doing tech art this time around
rigid fog
Aye, game jams are fun like that though
Sometimes you get to spread your wings a little
wise apex
lol rip our jam submission
wise apex
Eh
wise apex
I mean that's the duration thus far. Wouldn't say I've been at it
4 people down to 2 with an ambitious scope anyway? nah.
wise apex
FWIW the 2 are gonna tinker with it on a longer timescale
rigid fog
However
wise apex
I could possibly throw something together to submit
rigid fog
Just like the theme suggests
wise apex
Do I really wanna?
wise apex
Lol if you're gonna pull out the theme I can crush that counter
rigid fog
If you sbumit and it's total poop
everyone's going to think you're poop
@wise apex crush it
wise apex
Gotta bring our own enjoyment, so what's the point in crunching hard to bring a secondary and poor idea to the submit table just to prove a point?
austere swift
but the enjoyment is to do something
its clear i wont get this thing done, but ill try to package it somehow
wise apex
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
compact cedar
glass fossil
looks cool
uneven basin
I think I found a weird bug
Left Mouse button stops registering after map changes
however, if I hold right mouse button(which isn't bound to anything) it starts working again
uneven basin
and this occurs as both input action and input axis
rigid fog
most inputs
uneven basin
wsad works fine for me
uneven basin
and, use keybind (e) as far as I can tell
rigid fog
Did we ever figure it out, can't remember
compact cedar
@rigid fog yeah...last day ;_;
@rigid fog on this game we had issues with FMOD plugin not packaging for 4.18 (it's not available for it yet, so @gaunt copper had to rewrite some sources to do that)
uneven basin
k im not gonna start trying to figure this out, just gonna leave a mention to tutorial
copper carbon
You guuuuuuuys. I can't wait to play your games โค
dull pendant
our whole game just broke ...
uneven basin
I just need to add few images and set level music to play and we are good to go
glass fossil
i have silence except broken light sounds randomly in the level
i just know i will not be at top 10 ๐
Do i have to specify sound i used for a game from startercontent?
uneven basin
not really, but if someone asks you need to be able to point out where you got it
glass fossil
k
uneven basin
and obviously that you have proper paperwork to use it
glass fossil
thats from starter content pack (the one that comes with a new project)
uneven basin
I know, Epic has given permission to use anything they share through the launcher
๐ค
glass fossil
download and recompile fortnite
that have you used?
*everything
that moment when you accedently revert your changes from yesterday and basically have to rebuild a complete level ๐ข
uneven basin
rigid fog
@uneven basin aww nice
austere swift
thats really cool
rigid fog
hm
robust basalt
we are strugglin over here
rigid fog
@robust basalt what
lol
I do like that gameplay video
Jeez, that looks very well done
rigid fog
yeah
zenith gust
Looks great, smart move to keep the gameplay to something that fits well with the engine to get more time to polish all the other things
rigid fog
Aye
That's what I think a lot of us forget
We overcomplicate our gameplay mechanics
And then it requires more bug fixing/ gameplay testing
etc
zenith gust
How can we resist the urge to try making completely novel mechanics? ๐
rigid fog
But, yeah, his is a simple idea. But still nice.
@zenith gust Exactly
But, I don't think I have any original ideas in my game
Well, I don't even have a game
So...
zenith gust
๐ฆ
zenith gust
Crunching hard these remaining 24h?
rigid fog
heh, last 24?
zenith gust
harder* ๐
I'm gonna have to fit in some sleep, a workday, and finishing up my last models somehow.
bet it'll feel darn good once submitted though
zenith gust
Yeah definitely, as someone said earlier it only really has to be long enough to properly show off your stuff
austere swift
with pretty much no effort whatsoever
except the first time i tried to set it up for DWVR. turns out this thing needs you to configure it on the exact way, or its completely broken
pretty flashy
austere swift
mine is
uneven basin
initial "plan b" build uploaded to backup ๐
saved
in case computer decides to just, explode or something
gaunt copper
rigid fog
hearty ferry
So much left to do, so little time
Still, I've already managed to do a lot more today than I thought, and in less time than I thought
All that's left: finish making & mapping textures, 2 last models, some more levels, and maybe if I have time some music/sounds
zenith gust
I was really hoping to try some audio but I haven't touched it at all yet
will have to play around with it some other time
dusky vessel
Luckily for me, I've been on top of my tasks for the jam so far. I'm the only programmer for my team, so they wanted to make their thing more artsy and UI-heavy.
My only complaint is that they didn't show me their design document until halfway through the jam
glass fossil
I feel lucky. My teammates are great and haven't bailed ๐
dusky vessel
That's what I told them -- everybody else on my team is together irl in the same place, which is why they were late to write it down on Google Docs or whatever
glass fossil
I guess a game jam is a lot of work so understandable people would drop out
rigid fog
one idea the first day
If they wanted to be heard
The had 4 hours
they*
In the end, I ended up mashing something up and it was pretty good
austere swift
i decided it was goign to be too much time to mesh up my levels properly
so i coded a tool that does it for me
mostly inspired by the automap i was experimenting with in the Aquila project
now i might actually be able to show something half good
robust basalt
somebody up for trading playtests with screenshare in a couple of hours?
austere swift
this is what i got myself
you bitchslap those while running around the darkness trying to lit up the torches
maiden loom
@robust basalt - ha ha ha, like we're ready for playtests in a couple of hours xD
maiden loom
too busy I'm afraid
it's 1:20am here and I have work in the morning
still got a couple of hours worth of work to do D:
dull pendant
@copper carbon should we also post something on the forum for the submission?
dull pendant
If there is one I'll post ours there ๐
rigid fog
When you only have one thing in your scene and the FPS drops to 20FPS from 120...you begin to wonder a few things...
dull pendant
Sooo I'm calling set view target with blend but it's not working when I'm loading into the level. Basically what happens is that we get snapped to the player.
Even though the camera is not part of the pawn
crisp coyote
thanks, the girl who modeled and rigged him hates moths ๐
she almost didn't want to do the jam when i sugested moths, but she's pro like that ๐
hows your jam coming along @rigid fog ?
crisp coyote
in other peoples hands now?
rigid fog
Nah
crisp coyote
that would kill me if i didn't know them ๐
rigid fog
I just need like a 3-day extension @copper carbon
crisp coyote
lol
rigid fog
lol
crisp coyote
my wife will kill me if there is a 3 day extension
rigid fog
lmfao
crisp coyote
now is probably not a good time to add a boss to my game ๐
copper carbon
@dull pendant Post here if youโd like! https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/events/1379458-epic-megajam-game-thread
No extension ๐
I wanna play them!
rigid fog
๐
crisp coyote
jeeze, now that this moth is in, the game freaks my shit out
crisp coyote
so this is the first time i make a game for anyone or anything.. do we need a loading screen, cause right now when i build the game, i just get some windows messages about stuff being unsafe, and then the game loads as if vr doesn't work, it closes and then pops back and it works.. not verry profesional looking ๐
dusky vessel
Does anyone know how to edit or change that default Unreal loading thing when you run the game jam project?
glass fossil
And there description window, then game name and display name
dusky vessel
Right on -- I was talking more about replacing that default screen altogether with some other splash thing, though.
Or swapping out the default gray background with my own thing
glass fossil
There is a thing which allows u to change the image here
Project Settings>Platforms>Windows
dusky vessel
Bingo! Thanks guys
glass fossil
Done ๐
hearty ferry
So much left to do, so little time
glass fossil
No
crisp coyote
Can you rename a project? cause right now my game is called epicmegajam
small fern
You can rename the launcher exe manually I think
It's kinda pointless trying to rename the whole project at this stage
Things can break badly, especially if you have any c++ code in it
Renaming bp only projects is easier afaik
@crisp coyote
crisp coyote
damit
small fern
There are either wiki or answerhub posts on this subject
crisp coyote
thanks though
I'm in Africa, so i need to start my upload soon.. long way to upload lol
small fern
But if you have c++, dont bother if you havent done that before
You can change the name in project settings tho
But it will not change the exe
It's actually kinda odd limitation in ue4
crisp coyote
can we zip the project and put it on google drive?
uneven basin
that's what most people have been using
glass fossil
Please name your project file formatted with your team's name attached, ex. TeamName_GameName.
Does project file just mean the .zip file? So TeamName_GameName.zip?
uneven basin
Question: Rules say you gotta submit your Full Name and Email Address but the form only asks for Email address ?
glass fossil
But in project settings do I have to name it teamname_gamename?
Or only folder needs to be teamname_gamename
crisp coyote
I'm calling everything i can teamname_gamename ๐
crisp coyote
jeeze, zero hour.. people don't talk much
rigid fog
๐
crisp coyote
I'm looking at my upload like paint drying
small fern
it means the zip name
if you have subfolder in zip, then name that also that way
and you can probably rename the exe too
just in case
(as long as UE4 is happy)
I mean the launcher exe, not the other one
crisp coyote
everything that can have a name on my side is called MothBalls_GuardTheLight... ๐
small fern
the point of them wanting that is mainly that when they download the submissions, they can differentiate and id them easily
crisp coyote
this is our play vid
small fern
if everyone just called it EpicMegaJam.zip, it would be horrible
@crisp coyote I don't think you are allowed to use the sponsor logos like that
they haven't sponsored your game
just the event
so it's misleading
crisp coyote
hood point
good
Thanks for pointing it out
I hate showing vr videos though.. you never get the real idea of a vr game from a video
somber hazel
so... anyone want to cook some coconut rice for me?
kinda busy right now ๐
but I'm hungry ๐ฆ
crisp coyote
@small fern re-uploading now without the logos thanks dude
dull pendant
The judges have controllers, right? ๐
maiden loom
Judges will have access to Vives, yes
crisp coyote
good, cause my game sucks without one
carmine zenith
hey, good night (here).
What's a good place to upload the game build? Is there any known preference about that? ๐
zenith gust
Any reasonable hosting, I think many use things like google drive
Finally back home again, time to crunch out that UI/menus that I was stupid enough to leave until now ๐
carmine zenith
thanks
I was planning to keep crunching all the night but... 2 am already and I need t ogo work tomorrow ๐
crisp coyote
I'm done.. Now I can die
wait.. no.. paying work just kicked down the door and demanded mys ass
ugh
orchid bolt
Just seen the video very impressive . Love the particle effects although they seem a bit random for dying moths . Like the fact you incorporated the team name into the game design too or was it the other way round . Can't wait to see everyone else's games
crisp coyote
@orchid bolt thanks man. we couldn't decide on a group name. en the end someone skyped that and we all lolled enough to keep it
the death particles were houdini vertex animations, so i stuck them on actors
so there is way too much spawn and destroy actor going on there
but this is my first game so i don't know better
orchid bolt
I need one of them devices everytime im coding in my room I have to have the door open because I get too hot and all the moths and mosquitoes fly in and attack me because they are attracted to the monitors lol
crisp coyote
lol
but what you don't see in the game is the amount that frog will shit on everything
I got the moth early this morning, and the beatle late this morning. rigged but not animated at all
so i ran a sine node through most of the bones, and bam, flying insects. Bah .. keyframes are for noobs
uneven basin
๐
crisp coyote
I'm such a gamedev-thuglife-nerd right now
uneven basin
I managed to mess up some animation imports
UE4 said 2-step run loop had +500 frames
uneven basin
no idea, probably
as long as you can find download button without registering first, I'd assume its ok
copper carbon
Good morning ;p
glass fossil
hello
dull pendant
@copper carbon jury has atleast 2 controllers? ๐
copper carbon
Yessir!
glass fossil
packaging the project ๐
copper carbon
And as long as you name your folder with the teamname_gamename format, thatโs enough. We just donโt want to dig through a million randomly named folders!
Yay!
How ya all feelin?
crisp coyote
ded
copper carbon
Woo!
crisp coyote
but empty cause the chase is over
copper carbon
Oh no, no ded :0
crisp coyote
you know the worst part is.. i have to work on a stupid tv comercial right now
tv after gamedev is just the pits
glass fossil
@copper carbon am i supposed to rename the windowsNoEditor folder to teamname_gamename?
crisp coyote
@glass fossil jeeze i hope not
cause then i messed up
i renamed the folder above that
glass fossil
well, the first folder has to be teamname_gamename
that one which is downloaded
(or extracted form zip)
crisp coyote
ye
glass fossil
wait when project packages it packages on highest settings or the settings that were in my editor while packaging that?
uneven basin
@copper carbon question: Were we suppose to submit name along with email address in the form?
there was no separate field for it
copper carbon
You didnโt have to, no
uneven basin
mkay, I kinda panicked and submitted twice because of the confusion
crisp coyote
so here is another funny part about our game.. no one on my team has seen the game in vr. I'm the only one with a vive. man I hope they are not disapointed when they see it next week
@copper carbon will we get some kind of email to confirm the submision went through?
glass fossil
do i have to specify my name in submission form?
crisp coyote
no field fer that
glass fossil
ok submitted ๐
glass fossil
i dont have any (on my potato pc 30 fps when not recording on low settings 720p)
if recording it would be like 20 fps
dull pendant
@copper carbon Does the link to the game have to be a direct download link? Or is a link to the itch.io page good too?
copper carbon
@crisp coyote - No, no email. But did you get a confirmation message when you submitted?
crisp coyote
yeah, the internet told me to get some sleep
crisp coyote
thanks, just paranoid.. I don't want 3 angry artists on my back cause i messed up ๐
austere swift
im really happy with my new stuff now. Preparing final build
finally got all the art assets (and level generators) with game logic, so i was able to create the big-ish level today
crisp coyote
nice
austere swift
currently baking geometry
zenith gust
Good stuff!
austere swift
some of my generators for stoney stuff are very heavy, specially for long-ish sections
crisp coyote
are you using houdini?
zenith gust
I was a bit stupid and waited with making levels until now, prioritizing other stuff. But with a puzzle concept I kinda need the levels to back it up, gotta churn out something the coming hours
crisp coyote
nice
austere swift
given that the game is stupid dark, i have a "trick" for level editing
i have a sublevel
that is "blueprint loaded"
and contains a big light
crisp coyote
are you usin houdini engine, or just fbx
austere swift
but as its blueprint loaded, when you game its not there
becouse i dont load it
engine, all with the plugin
its so much more convenient than fbx
crisp coyote
have you tried to package yet?
austere swift
it works
crisp coyote
cause i had problems
austere swift
becouse ys, i did
crisp coyote
i had to disable the houdini plugin to package
austere swift
also tested in another pc that doesnt have anything houdini installed
well, you are doing something wrong, then
becouse it works without any edit for me
crisp coyote
i think there is a redshift conflict
austere swift
what version of the plugin? im using the absolute latest one you can get
crisp coyote
cause redshift poped up in the error log
yeah
but its all sorted
just baked and unticked the plugin
I'm using the latest before h16.5
dont know which one now
austere swift
im using 16.5 wich has a neaaat new polyreduce
austere swift
its so nice epic games removed the 65.000 polygon limit on static meshes
becouse im abusing that so hard
my game doesnt have textures
literally nothing but the main chracter runes
everything is on mesh
crisp coyote
you should look into hierarchical instances
you can use the array generated by packed primatives to scatter them on points
its a bit of a ballach, but works like a mofo
dull pendant
Is there anything special I need to do to make media player work in a packaged build?
austere swift
no, im not using that
becouse im not using scatter
with a more talented level designer the end resoult could have been spectacular
but eh, had to do everything (but the main character) myself
ill see if i can use the rest of the time to add a bit more detail to the stuff, more objects
crisp coyote
that looks pretty baddass
did you vdb those blocks into a single mesh and then polyreduce?
austere swift
i tweak the settings of the volume and polyreduce toget the exact look i want to get
glass fossil
fingers crossed that im not last ๐
dusky vessel
My team is dumping all of the last minute work on me because I'm the programmer guy
๐
glass fossil
then next time go solo
dusky vessel
That's what sucks -- I am bad at art stuff.
So any portfolio thing I make in a game jam won't look pretty enough to HR people.
Or at least that's what I'm paranoid about.
copper carbon
Sure
sudden snow
Awesome, thanks!
compact cedar
glass fossil
nice
dusky vessel
I feel like my team's designer made the scope just a little bit too large for a 3 days of work (he never showed us the GDD until 3 days left)
It's pretty frustrating because we have all these systems and features done or nearly done and we have only 30 minutes to hook it all together into an experience
austere swift
hey, i did all the maps and final mechanics today
dusky vessel
Lesson learned: having a designated Designer on your team is only good if they can make a basic GDD within a reasonable amount of time (e.g. less than 6 hours)
austere swift
the rest was all experimentation and art assets and pipeline
no, dedicated designer is 100% useless
dusky vessel
Yeah that was basically my experience when I did the Spring Jam this year
dusky vessel
He's also doing that to his credit at least
the level thing
For the Spring jam this year I actually finished everything like 2 days early, so I just took it easy. It was all programmer art, though, sadly.
maiden loom
I'm a dedicated designer
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
though to be fair, I had a basic design document for the guys doing the jam ready before they started working on it friday morning ^^
dusky vessel
You can do that? Start making the GDD before the jam begins?
maiden loom
theme was announced thursday night
dusky vessel
Timezones
uneven basin
wouldn't the world be much nicer place without timezones
dull pendant
There's still 3 hours left right?
austere swift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlAdYjHwK9Q here is my video
maiden loom
our video will probably come tomorrow, because tired and getting submission in before the lock
dusky vessel
This is not my finest finish to a jam ๐
I spent like 6 hours working on implementing a Dialogue Tree system so that we could have NPCs to interact with and whatnot. We weren't able to use it for lack of time x_x
austere swift
its kind of sad my levels are all basically boxes
why am i so bad for naming things holy shit
hardest thing of the gamejam coming up with a name
copper carbon
use a random name generator ;P
safe halo
Igor's Revenge. It looks amazing!
rigid fog
....
2 hours and 48 mins huh
what kind of game can I make in that time
no
@copper carbon Are you accepting Gameplay Trailers post jam submission deadline?
austere swift
@crisp coyote were you able to see the video i uploaded?
you can see how i abused the HELL out of houdini to do the map meshes
copper carbon
You won't be able to edit your submission after 3pm ET, so you'll have to message me
rigid fog
@copper carbon awesome thanks
copper carbon
good luck!
unique charm
Just submitted! https://youtu.be/YOzVWe-ROiU
quasi girder
This moment ... when you want to punch on the wall
austere swift
thats why ive been doing test builds since 2 days ago
quasi girder
zenith gust
I feel ya, suddenly while trying to make some more content, I now stumbled upon some very weird behavior with my angles
austere swift
thats why ive been doing test builds since 2 days ago
zenith gust
for some reason in one level, the actors "get forward vector" returns 0 after a second or so, but valid values before that. And they aren't rotating one bit, nothing is affecting them
works in the other level
very confused
quasi girder
anyone a idea how to add childactor in BP on runtime and set a public variable in it?
rigid fog
๐
copper carbon
just shy of 2.5 hours from now
warm marlin
Is there a confirmation when you submit the form? Other than the one right after clicking submit
copper carbon
just the one after clicking submit, telling you to get some sleep
I'll do an email next time. Think that would make ya'll feel a bit better ๐
copper carbon
yay โค
Still feel free to share over here though - https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/events/1379458-epic-megajam-game-thread
median flume
@copper carbon Do you want the links to the sourced assets or are just the names enough? (Was probably asked before but did not see)
copper carbon
Listing them is enough
median flume
Ofc, the packaging fails now... ๐
glass fossil
gotta go fast
zenith gust
The bug I've been hunting for the past hour seems to have been some corruption, now everything works again phew
now to try get the last things going
austere swift
game is done, im uploading it and stuff
rigid fog
maiden loom
D:
austere swift
thx for the weeb music again, lost it
and there were a few cool songs there
enjoy
kind of impressive the amounts of things that were thrown out
i had a boss fight, traps, and mechanics where you would use the light ball to activate stuff
stable kiln
i filled in that form, i dont need to make a forum post anymore?
its another masterpiece
warm marlin
How our game turned out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-0y85LOBo4
copper carbon
you don't have to post to teh forum but it's fun to share ๐
austere swift
im also using default animations but with some blending stuff
dull pendant
what is the link again @copper carbon ?
austere swift
@copper carbon any way of confirming the submission was right?
i sent the 3.5 minutes video (full playthrough)
warm marlin
@austere swift We didn't have an animation expert, gotta go with what you have :p
austere swift
mostly becouse the game is about running around
dull pendant
https://jonathansty.itch.io/meronikto
Our game ๐
austere swift
just crop anything from half to end of video and thats good enough. Start is slower
@dull pendant dem graphix
dull pendant
thanks to @glass fossil
glass fossil
now it's bed time F* this shit :p
austere swift
i did all the art in mine except the character
too bad my skills are limited. I aboused tech quite a bit
the maps are essentially BSP + a "filter" to make it rocky
warm marlin
it looks really cool your Kyndill game ๐
warm marlin
to do the grayscale -> colour in my game we used a technique Alan Willard did a tutorial for called Location Based Opacity but instead of opacity we change the saturation
austere swift
you mean doing a distance check to the player?
and using an "IF"
or is it a postprocess
warm marlin
You have a point and in a sphere around it you change the colour, tried first with post process but couldn't handle more than 1 person close to another
median flume
"Please name your project file formatted with your team's name attached, ex. TeamName_GameName." "Project File" meaning the zip, or the folder containing the exe or what? Just so I'm sure ๐
maiden loom
I'd assume the submission file
hearty ferry
I know you have to disclose any assets made prior to the jam, but what about the default UE4 templates? (the first-person, third-person, VR, vehicle options when creating a new project)
I'm assuming you also have to disclose if you used that, but not sure since it's the default stuff that gets added when creating the project
austere swift
btw, for the last section of the game
its all 1 mesh
for the whole labyryinth of ruins
its actually 2 million polygons
- cubemap shadow
XD
pretty damn fucking extreme, but it ran 60 fps no issues on my 970
dull pendant
@copper carbon I meant the forum page ๐
copper carbon
d'oh
dull pendant
I think I saw a "go get some sleep" message
rigid fog
HEre's hoping this package test goes smoothly
Meh
I was a bit over ambitious on this one
I mean
I literally only need like another hour or two
austere swift
i just need a bigger team to go ambitious and go for the win
austere swift
i know i cant win alone
or nearly alone
so i do it chill, to experiment with some stuff
rigid fog
But i needed that two hours to crunch this effectively anyway
austere swift
btw, the doors and torches arent hardcoded
its a smart system using gameplay tags
each torch can have some tags, and doors have tags too
austere swift
when a torch beginplay-s, then it adds its tags into a thing in the gamemode
if you have 4 torches with the tag Torch.EntryPart, then there is a storage in the gamemode like "Torch.EntryPart = 4"
rigid fog
ROFL
median flume
3gb package for 4 mins of gameplay, gawd... them assets really weigh on them bytes.
austere swift
when a torch gets activated, it removes one from the storage, and when it reaches 0, it iterates through all the doors and checks if a door has all its tags satisfacted
then it callbacks into that specific door to activate it
median flume
Ressource, as in icons, or something else in this case? ^^
austere swift
@rigid fog read only