I can already taste the horrible fps caused by so many dynamic lights
#game-jam-chat
grizzled zenith
maiden loom
gotta make 'em first
copper carbon
pfft
grizzled zenith
wtf am I even reading
civic dock
Ah, Kubrick. You come across that in researching the theme?
grizzled zenith
yep. Pretty much every google result is about him
stable kiln
soo every1 needs to suppy me some light
grizzled zenith
I understand the contest but still not 100% sure what he's meaning with the however vast the darkness, we must supply our own light
slate salmon
would a vr submission have to be functional on both oculus and vive? or is just vive acceptable?
stable kiln
Sooo i made some darkness, im half done allready
vagrant wharf
Nice
grizzled zenith
๐
civic dock
I take it to mean: the only way to fight darkness is by making light. You can't wait around for someone else to do it.
stable kiln
clearly its about ut goth GF that needs to get light products
copper carbon
@slate salmon one platform is fine
civic dock
If you were lost in a dark catacomb, you could wait forever for someone else to find you (not likely) or try to fashion a torch, or find a flashlight, etc.
slate salmon
@copper carbon thanks!
stable kiln
cuz she is pretty vast
copper carbon
np ๐
civic dock
@stable kiln Keep it respectful, please.
small fern
I have idea for a vr-game
grizzled zenith
pro tip: Just make another slenderman clone
vagrant wharf
Ok
stray crag
so many ideas come to mind
vagrant wharf
I can't get any good ideas
stray crag
I can share ๐
vagrant wharf
Nah, you don't have to, i'll find something good
lament oar
"However baked the darkness, we must recompile Lightmass to Supply our own light"
coral reef
Light and dark can be life and death
lament oar
I wonder how many people will use Nvidia's Volumetric light build to make their games.
fading rock
Woah if only the epic mega jam started last week so we could work on it during Halloween.
Very haunting, very cool theme.
grizzled zenith
yeah..
carmine kindle
Half the games would be very spooky then
grizzled zenith
they will be now too
fading rock
MOAR SPOOKY
vagrant wharf
Darkness is spooky
robust basalt
@grizzled zenith are you jamming?
grizzled zenith
Probably yeah, alone
sharp berry
I guess all entries will be something horror/spooky
grizzled zenith
@robust basalt you're in your potato team?
grizzled zenith
Some, but not really that good ones
robust basalt
same here
rigid fog
GO GO GO
grizzled zenith
It's hard to think of anything that's not taking the theme literally but still has a strong connection
lament oar
Here is an idea. A game where you have to light candles with a heat seeking arrow. Physics based with slight influence.
grizzled zenith
Yeah..
quasi girder
If some creative guy is still looking for a team to jam ... ๐ https://crowdforge.io/jams/epicmegajam/teams/612
stable kiln
hmm think im gunna make some silly char with run animation ๐
carmine zenith
did'nt do a UE4 jam in a while, I'm excited ๐
unkempt finch
vagrant wharf
Can i use fuse and then change my character in blender?
rigid fog
yes,. disclose it
you did not create that character from scratch
Anything you did not create from scratch during the jam, MUST be disclosed
vagrant wharf
Ok
carmine zenith
does that mean that you need to do something over them or you can use markeplace stuff too? (I know this question must be done tons of times)
vagrant wharf
Where do you submit your game when it's done?
carmine zenith
in the rules there is a link to a google form to submit it
vagrant wharf
ok
violet kestrel
Surprised nobody's streaming the jam
violet kestrel
Ah ok, not just me who hasn't got an idea for the game yet lol
rigid fog
heh
I am going to go out on a limb here
And say they'll be at least 25-40 games based on lights
based on like torches, flashlights
Somethingh that teh player can "create" or "use"
somber hazel
'Have fun with the gamejam guys' gives us one of the most depressing themes I've ever seen on any gamejam ๐
sharp berry
@rigid fog Why would Fuse needs to be disclosed? It's just a tool?
violet kestrel
You never modelled it though
sharp berry
You can customize the model by adjusting the parameters, in some sense you just use a base model
violet kestrel
yeah but that's like someone doing all the hard work, you change a bunch of sliders and say you made it all
rigid fog
It's like using a Marketplace Character Customizer asset
sharp berry
I find it pretty gray, in the same sense, if you model a simple wall based of a cube mesh in blender, how much did you make from scratch?
rigid fog
Not sure why this is so hard for people to understand
sharp berry
I dont mind disclosing it, but I found tools like Fuse being in a gray area
violet kestrel
no but if you download a ferrari model and move 1 vertex, is it yours?
robust basalt
it is not illegal to use pre-made assets
rigid fog
Why do you feel it's "gray"
sharp berry
The why is like I said, If you model a wall out of a cube mesh in Blender, you basicly just customized the sizes..
rigid fog
But you made that cube from scratch
robust basalt
sure, just say: "all assets made in blender"
if you use fuse, just add: "characters created with fuse"
sharp berry
As much as scratch as using Male A in Fuse and change the appearance
rigid fog
....
robust basalt
then write that
rigid fog
^
Creating a character from scratch in Blender, Maya, Modo is not the same thing as doing it in Fuse
Nor is the rigging and animation
I don't see how or why you are putting it on the same level
sharp berry
Again, I dont mind (and I will) disclose all tools anyways, but its where the "line" should be drawn, in this sense, I would prefer if Epic would adjust the disclosure rules to disclose all used tools in any case
fathom lily
yeah, thats something that i was confused about as well
rigid fog
If you are ever in doubt
glass fossil
@rigid fog Give us your idea not based around lights/torches ๐
glass fossil
๐
rigid fog
TBH, there's always a chance that a winning idea might be based on darkness and light
violet kestrel
Mind = Completely Blank
copper carbon
You got this!
violet kestrel
I have a great idea that is so unique but the rest of the team don't like it haha
small fern
how do you know it's unique?
zenith gust
Ah I give up trying to be original, game based on light and shadow it is ๐
onyx moon
โThe most terrifying fact about the universe is not that it is hostile but that it is indifferent, but if we can come to terms with this indifference, then our existence as a species can have genuine meaning. However vast the darkness, we must supply our own light.โ
The theme is based of that full quote, which I interprete as meaning a lot of things, like being stranded on an island and making due with what you have. Stuck in a shitty situation you learn to adapt to it and make it positive
If I had to sum up the theme to one word I would say "Adaptation"
zenith gust
@onyx moon That's a good way to sum it up yeah, I got stuck on the specific wording without looking at the whole context.
onyx moon
I think the quote fits in with all of Kubrick's movies, making the best of the situation they find themselves in
rigid fog
I hope everyone's got their idea down and crunching away!!!! Not sure if I've said it already or not, but Good Luck everyone!
crisp coyote
same to you man!
I'm in africa, so i got the theme last night and went to bed. woke up with loads of terrible ideas ๐
sage spoke
@onyx moon Thanks for explaination
crisp coyote
so how does this normaly work, do people keep their ideas secret for as long as possible, or do we share to try and avoid duplicates?
mossy sedge
think its the secret one
some people are much better and faster than others, and when its on a common theme, its easy to argue away having the idea originally
I'm still trying to do a course.
sage spoke
I don't know if everyone starting slamming their keyboards and mouse, I'm still here thinking what to make ๐
rigid fog
๐
mossy sedge
I have so many ideas.
rigid fog
Do the most fun one for you
mossy sedge
currently discussing what appears to be the most obvious one with a mate.
sage spoke
I think my would include darkness. TOO MUCH DARKNESS!
rigid fog
You got this
small fern
he's going with the zombie idea
grizzled zenith
I think I've decided on my idea. Not very creative but if I execute it well it should be fun
crisp coyote
I'm sitting with a huge problem.. everyone on my team has a bloody awesome idea.. can't decide which one, and can't combine them cause that will just water things down... so we are working on the generic stuff and have set a deadline to pick one
so where do people post work in progress threads?
grizzled zenith
here or #work-in-progress I guess
crisp coyote
lol, I thought there was forum threads for the jam
loud basalt
Usually takes time to develop one good idea, maybe your standards are too low :p
crisp coyote
I'm more talking about the visual direction here. We've got our game mech planned, but how we present it is the sticky point
we are a team of 4 artists, none of them have ever made a game b4, But they are all masters at visual comunication, so all the ideas are super strong
I'm the poor fool stuck blueprinting this madness into a game
compact cedar
How's it going?
violet kestrel
21.5 hours after the theme was announced, we finally have the idea
How about you?
compact cedar
@violet kestrel um...we already have concept arts, game logic, few music themes
violet kestrel
Nice, still early days yet anyway, good luck with it all! ๐
compact cedar
@violet kestrel yeah, i'd personally would like to make as much as possible since we probably won't have our main level designer in last 2 days
violet kestrel
Ah that sucks, least you're started already though lol
Only just halfway through the first page of this game idea..
copper carbon
โ โ โ โ
subtle plaza
Anyone looking for 3D art? Shoot me a message
subtle plaza
Anything you want really. Lowpoly, high, chars, enviro, weapons. I do animation but i just got a busy couple of weeks so im not looking to go too crazy this week
violet kestrel
Okay cool, I'll speak with the other guys when they're home see if they need a hand modelling anything, we're still writing things down for the game at the minute so no development has actually started
vagrant wharf
I'm trying to make a game by myself to have a chance on getting the army of one prize, i probably won't get it but i'll still have a chance
If i work hard
rigid fog
Coffee brewing, food about to go into my belly. Production on my end going to restart. Oh baby. Here we go for Day 2
violet kestrel
starting from scratch?
rigid fog
yeah sure
what
Oh, I said restart
But, no. Since i was sleeping. Production on my end halted. Because I can't code in my sleep...not yet anyway
So code production halted. nvm
:0
rigid fog
No idea, I was literally just sleeping 5 mins ago
PC is upstairs, breakfast is first
Need coffee and food
violet kestrel
Fair enough
grizzled zenith
lool I just spent a few hours making functionality with my own blueprints just to realize you can already do it with physics constraints
crisp coyote
well so far gamejams are awesome.. i finaly learned to interface, not a single cast so far, and not much on the event tick either..
i know this is basics for you guys, but for me its pretty big
my vive is going to overheat lol
crisp coyote
bed time.. good luck guys
robust basalt
gn8
rigid fog
** GO GO GO **
Mine's not too bad, making some decent progress. Waiting for my other team members to come back from work/school so they can do cool stuff as well
@robust basalt How's yours going?
naive wren
As for me, I don't even know what to do yet lol
robust basalt
we are on track, I'd say
rigid fog
Awesome! When are we going to start seeing some silly gifs @robust basalt ?
robust basalt
usually when the polishing pass starts
at the monent it is just waaay to plain of a prototype
in other words, a couple of screenshakes deep
rigid fog
stable kiln
are we finnally seein some of that vicB pixel art we hear so much about? :p
rigid fog
What, you've never seen me state I am a pro pixel artist
robust basalt
can't believe I am saying that, but you might have a taaaad toooo much screenshake going on there ๐
at least for the type of weapon
you gotta leave some room for explosions
robust basalt
looks borderlandsy
white briar
hy
rigid fog
@stable kiln Dude, looks good!
white briar
i look at title "However vast the darkness, we must supply our own light" , what is meaning ? ๐
stable kiln
yea its from a tut i seen. i added another offset and inverted the norm for the outline
zenith gust
Friday night, all beer-ed up and ready, time to get started for real and cook some blueprint spaghetti!
robust basalt
aldente please
grizzled zenith
it kinda works.. I guess
I'll have to give a bit more time for this and if it doesn't work, I'll give up the rope rolling mechanic
carmine zenith
Saturday midnight here and I'm about to do the English exam required for immigration here but I cannot stop thinking in the jam xd
copper carbon
Oh man. Hope the exam goes well ๐ฎ
crisp coyote
3:35 am in Africa.. Damit, I needed to sleep more. oh well
crisp coyote
I'm losing my mind.. can't seem to cast vars from my pawn to my animBP
rigid fog
@crisp coyote dont waste time on little things
if you can'f figure out how to get the reference (which should alerady be in your character defaults anyway)
Then just play the animations inside the character BP itself
PlayAnimation
time to see who's been snazzy with #ue4jam
crisp coyote
I'm controling the animation based on a vector i draw on the event tick
So its not an animation i can just play, I'm controlling rotation of a bone based on the direction of a bone
can you see something wrong there?
lol wrong pics
ok these
I've done this a few time in the past.. not sure why this doesn't work but i cant see the var in the cast
rigid fog
@crisp coyote #1
you are calling that on tick
anim tick
so dont
unless, you have to for some reason
But I doubt it
And I don't know what you're doing with that math
Assuming the second pic is VRPawn BP
crisp coyote
i need it on tick, it updates all the time
crisp coyote
its the hand positions
crisp coyote
lol <<<<<-------noob
rigid fog
?
rigid fog
Set->RLagVec
from that As VRPawn
But anyway, next time, throw this over at #blueprint
Or if you need further help go there
forest stream
so everyones jaming?
obtuse vale
yea
rigid fog
Man
In the thick of things now
Everyone's being so secretive of their #ue4jam
I thought I would see a least a few more pics
obtuse vale
holy how can we compete :D
rigid fog
Well
Pretty easily actually
You kind of have an idea of where they are heading
machine gun throtting teddy bear
spray and pray
Rambo Bear
But who knows
this is the one before glow in teh dark
obtuse vale
its so well done
would take me a week to make just it xd
its my first jam so i will get happy if i can at least get a playable game at the end
;d
glass fossil
Good morning!
maiden loom
the extreme quietness in here makes me wonder if everyone is secretly busy working on identical games :p
glass fossil
lol
crisp coyote
well they better not have frogs in theirs!!!
stable kiln
isnt an ikinema license pretty useless if u dont have a mocap suit?
grizzled zenith
alright, 1.5 days in and I think my controls are done
spent way too much debugging physics constraints
and trying to get the rope physics working
I guess I can share a gif
grizzled zenith
zenith gust
Ah bleh, wasted a bunch of time trying to debug an issue I had, turns out it's a known issue for quite a while but the pull request is still under review
One of the hardest things about gamejams is knowing when to give up on your solution and move on to something else ^^
crisp coyote
I know right. i spent half the day trying to add and subtract an an array of objects using custom events.. gave up and put the bloody array on the tick.. its ugly but it works.. NEXT
zenith gust
@crisp coyote Just gotta keep moving eh, I'll have to adjust my mechanics a bit as I can't find a way to circumvent the issue without redoing many hours of work. Still, it works, just more limited than I had intended
worn cipher
crisp coyote
our team's approuch is" don't kill ourselfs.. just have fun and maybe even a game by thursday
rigid fog
Might need a replacement for one of my artists. Anyone up for the challenge of joining a team in mid-stride?
Enviornment Art/Level Designer pref'd
hearty ferry
That moment when you've spend hours trying to fix a bug and then it turns out it's been working all along and the bug is caused by something else...
This is why I usually don't manage to finish gamejams in time hahah
outer gazelle
Opinion wanted: Could a beginner do "plant growth" in unreal in under 8 hours?
to build bridges with plants and stuff
(I know some BP basics, like communications, custom events, loops, variables and stuff)
zenith gust
Unless you have an idea of how to solve it using basic mechanics, I don't think it's feasible in that timeframe. Sounds like you would want a very custom system and even simple systems take time
hearty ferry
Depends how you want to do it @outer gazelle , you could have the artist (or yourself if you're a team on your own) just animate the plants, then in UE4 you'd only need to start the animation (and possibly update/create a collider), but if you wanted it to be affected by environment or other gameplay stuff it becomes more difficult
zenith gust
If you don't need "smooth" results you could probably do a hacky-looking building system in that timeframe though
But as a beginner I think you would be better of with another idea that you already know how to solve, 8 hours is not much time ๐
outer gazelle
Yeah, I don't think I can do it fast enough for the jam!
Or if I did, it would look too hacky
Thanks for the feedback!
zenith gust
I always feel like I've taken on too big of a scope in jams, this time is no exception. Here's hoping I can get something decent in time ๐
Best of luck with your jamming!
outer gazelle
Practice makes perfect! So perhaps you can! Good luck to you too!
mighty ice
I want to implement a farming aspect to my game, does anyone know any specific tutorials for this? I am looking for the ability to plant a seed, then the player needs to care for the plant throughout several stages before harvesting. I am new to game design and UE4 however willing to put in the time to learn whatever it is I need for this system.
edgy vessel
There really isn't anything specific I think. What you really need to learn is how to be a programmer. Which means to learn how to split that objective into smaller ones, figure how to implement each one with programming concepts and build the feature as a whole
Maybe that didn't make sense to you ๐ But what I'm trying to say is, you need to break that down in your mind and decide how to implement each small aspect of the planting process
mighty ice
I know what each aspect of the process I want to implement is, the problem is I have no idea how to start working on it. I understand programming would be required however a specific lesson/tutorial or pointer is what I am after really
sharp berry
Farming is a combination of multiple things
Also depending on how you want to farm, is it a manual action or something an AI must do?
mighty ice
manual action
sharp berry
So you'll need a farm field actor, that holds a boolean or an enum that shows if the action to farm is possible
Then, if the player automaticly walks towards the farm field, it needs to get the farm field location to get and set the forward vector
And have a collision box (or check vector length) to know if the player is close enough to the farm field to start the farming
mighty ice
Okay, understood thanks!!
What about having the plant growth. Say for instance the crops harvest is effected if not fed on time etc. What should I be learning to implement something like this?
sharp berry
For the jam time sake, I would make 4 meshes of the plants, 1 for the sprouts, 1 for mid-life, 1 for perfect farm, 1 for a rotten, then in the farm field actor I would use a timeline of i.e. 1 minute, then on every 15 seconds a Event trigger, to set the plants life time to its proper mesh
mighty ice
Thanks Remco, much appreciated!
sharp berry
np ๐
uneven basin
I tried downloading the GameTextures sample pack, but engine says there are no assets in it
thumbnails works but opening the any of the assets invalidates texturesamples
storm blade
So, everybody hard at work?
stray crag
hardly working ๐
dull pendant
Trying to cram the gamejam in this weekend because of work -_-
storm blade
@uneven basin do you have allegorythmic plugin installed?
outer gazelle
I want some feedback for my idea. I think it is too basic, but on the other hand it I don't wont to stuff gameplay in there just to say I did something.
My idea is about an exploration game. In this game you die when you run out of light and you can leave some of your light in the world, to make it more beautiful. Plants grow where you leave your light, the walls are colorful and beautiful. Or you can not leave your light anywere. Just race towards the ending, reaping light from the world, making it more ugly, just to achieve the goal of reaching the end.
The world stays as you left it each time you reicarnate. Which means that players that keep giving their light, will make the world more beautiful.
And slowly they can progress to the ending, by building the world slowly.
And with many sacrifices.
But the gameplay is just exploring and the choice to leave some of your inner light in the outside world
storm blade
I think it could work if you make it look really nice
obtuse vale
yeah, when the gameplay is simple u can compensate with beauty :d
outer gazelle
Looks like I need to find an artist
obtuse vale
shit i just realised my game is simple and ugly
dull pendant
What is the idea?
jovial thistle
This being my first game-jam... it is going surprisingly well
zenith gust
Nice!
This is the first time I go purely blueprint instead of mostly cpp, and it's taking it's toll on my sanity. Didn't notice until too late that maps/arrays are not practical to use to store references, so had to recreate a big part of my gameplay stuff
But now it almost works again, and I'm much wiser ๐
jovial thistle
I've been working in cpp recently but the other two guys on my team use bp so i thought it was best for the game jam to stay on bp for the sake of consistency. But i like to think of myself as a traditional programmer so doing cpp just feels.... right. But recreating is quite the task haha
Hopefully it didnt set you back at all!
zenith gust
A few hours is not that bloody for a weeklong jam like this ๐
I do kind of regret going solo though
unique charm
...brain....is.....mush.... too... much.....gamedev
@zenith gust i am flying solo too - it is alot of work
crisp coyote
i hea you man.. I'm not solo and I'm dead
can't imagine doing this on my own.. good luck
ashen meadow
jam jam
wheres @stable kiln
you doing a jam game?
this is where i am at
slowly but surely moving along
and of course awesome theme songs http://www.shatty.com/Images/jamIntro.mp3
crisp coyote
nice
dull pendant
Same ๐ I'm trying to get the game working by the end of this weekend. Work consumes all my dev time in the week.
grizzled zenith
I think I finally fixed a bug that took maybe 4 hours to find
AttachToComponent snap to target bugs out sometimes
if you just set the world location to the parents location before it works fine
stable kiln
@ashen meadow yea im gunna try make something again ๐
havent had much time too work on it yet tho
gunna make a character, codename sundaymorning ๐
glass fossil
glass fossil
hellow guys, i have a quick question, we work on our project with five people simultaniously, however multiply people joined, left, we never exceded 5 though, is this a problem?
outer gazelle
I think it is ok
Need artist to create a surreal world, filled with color, hanging out in the void.
This will be an exploration game, about giving your life's energy to bring out the beauty in the world and making it a better place for the next generation.
hearty ferry
Looks nice
glass fossil
yeah, wasy as wel, just one shader with a swatch texture => 3 materials instances
zenith gust
Amazing what some time off lets you see things with new eyes! Was away during the day today to celebrate a friends birthday, and now when I came back I immediately found the logic errors that haunted me yesterday!
Looks real nice @glass fossil
glass fossil
@glass fossil nice man, pretty cool for 1 year of experience! good job!
tnx
@zenith gust thanks man, and i know i have this sometimes as well :p
and yours looks awesome @glass fossil
i never did something with that low poly artstyle and have no experience with it
dat end message
glass fossil
lol i have lockers that player can hide in but there is noone to hide from :/ im stupid
anyone has any tips how to make a backdrop on windows so its not just sky?
obtuse vale
Arachnids are further distinguished from insects by the fact they do not have antennae or wings. shit
glass fossil
zenith gust
@obtuse vale looks like you got a proper alien thing going there ๐
maiden loom
@obtuse vale - LMAO i didnt realize a bug has only 6 legs
Eh? Have you never been outside?
(do you live at the South Pole?)
stable kiln
its a computerbug ๐
maiden loom
hehe
hearty ferry
Huh, my computerbugs usually have at least 15 legs, all throughout the code ๐
hearty ferry
@glass fossil Looks nice, depending on the artstyle you're going for you could add some chalk text or chalk stains on the board to make it look more used (if you're going for realistic artstyle though)
glass fossil
tnx for advice
and yes realistic artstyle
hmm how can i add those stains?
oh nvm, in material editor
with noise function
hearty ferry
Try to prebake the noise, as it can be expensive to generate each time
hearty ferry
Yeah looks nice already, maybe a bit more subtle though in some areas, look up blackboard in google for examples
glass fossil
k
hearty ferry
(you may also be able to find a texture that way, then you won't need to play with the noise anyways)
Oh wow @rigid fog , looks amazing
And here I am not having any art ingame yet lol
rigid fog
Quick sneaky peeky
glass fossil
wow that was awesome
rigid fog
The artists are talented
glass fossil
well im not ๐
blackboards added alot to my level
i cant come up with idea on how to add backdrop to my windows
its now like this
very strange look out of the window xd
hearty ferry
Finally finished all gameplay mechanics, now I "just" need to do the art and then make some more levels
glass fossil
im almost done with level
hearty ferry
I really try to make way too large projects for gamejams lol
storm blade
Looks good, on my phone at least
And i am stuck away from my pc second day in a row
Barely done anything
Thought my idea was not ambitious enough this time
For once
glass fossil
Tomorrow I will make a mech who will walk randomly and if he sees you, he follows you and if he catches you, you die. :D
hearty ferry
I've got enemies that won't walk in the light, but due to a bug if you now aim a flashlight on the floor in front of them and then move up, they start flying
It's hilarious
rigid fog
@glass fossil Looking good! All art created during the jam?
glass fossil
hahaha naah i could get away with a 16 px texture w/o mip mapping
:p
it's 512 atm
hearty ferry
btw, would mapping it like this not be better space wise? You wouldn't have the empty space around it so it could be either smaller or larger colored areas, while still being square
It's not laid out as nicely though, so idk if it's worth it in the performance you'd save
glass fossil
Nice texture :D
I'm stuck with a bugged navmesh
true that @hearty ferry, the reason why i did this was just because later on i might add more colours :p
dull pendant
ahhh, the fun in changing your entire level and half your game design ๐
rigid fog
@dull pendant You too? ๐
dull pendant
maybe ๐
zenith gust
Too much UE messes with my brain :D. Was hunting a bug where I could not get blue and green to show through my material, thought it was some floating point arithmetic problem as I'm packing many values into each. That was not the case at all, it just turned out that I had an if where I masked out only red to check, and pure blue/green were the only inputs that fully lacked in the red channel :๐
I keep wasting time chasing bugs that are just basic oversights, gotta be more rigorous!
robust basalt
the game we are making pretty much changes every day
๐
hopefully for the better
rigid fog
@robust basalt Oh, I am sure you guys are killing it!
robust basalt
I think we are making a better game than our last 2
so that should be a step in the right direction
rigid fog
hehe
robust basalt
how is it shaking on your end?
rigid fog
Hmm shaking, no shakes in there yet...but I will add a few to tribute to you
But no, practially starting over at this point
So, it's going in an interesting direction
Sometimes, it's good to shake things loose
robust basalt
we went through a couple of dramatic redesigns, but nothing too major
like we could use most of our code
starting over, huh?
that bad?
rigid fog
Meh, I didn't think so, but others felt it was.
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Fun thing about working with strangers ๐
You get to see how they really work (or don't) in a team environment
teal heron
you always get that one guy who wants to always make their game of course ๐ "Theme is light so its an MMO with abilities and effects and hotbars"
crisp coyote
I might be that one guy ๐
I'm the only person on the team who can run unreal ๐
and i only have experience in a very narrow field
so before the jame we decided its going to be a vr game with a certain kind of mechanic
we then adapted that to work with the theme
Our darknes is kinda vast, and we do supply our own light ๐
unique charm
too much game jam.... need to take break
but packaged and tested build... early and often!
crisp coyote
just did a pack build now.. so far so good
teal heron
Well, if it was known before the jam thats a bit of another thing too ๐
jovial thistle
Quick question... are yall using git or svn for this?
rigid fog
@GingerKendall#0576 I am using Perforce, the best of the best
@jovial thistle
But, SVN, Git, PlasticSCM are viable options as well
jovial thistle
Gotcha, I was just asking because I've been using GIt (mostly because my CS degree) and it has been fantastic for the game jam so far.
teal heron
if you aren't on a team then git lfs works great but perforce is basically a sad requirement for source control
things like file locking for the uassets are needed and while git lfs provides this there are a lot of bugs and issues with unlocking locked files
hearty ferry
Only now that I realise that because of work I have to finish the jam game at night, do I realise how much still needs to be done/how long my nights will be
rigid fog
@hearty ferry You got this!
glass fossil
๐ค if I can't fix the ai problem that it doesn't go through doors cuz of subtractive brushes (it thinks it's a solid wall) then he will go around corridors, mhmm thats even better idea in my mind, cuz you have to go through corridors
@vague gate yes it is ๐ and i do this after work as well, sacrificed my whole weekend for it, still need a main character and dressing the blockout design ๐
I was sitting 10+ hours a day programming/modeling playing warframe xd
No one is talking to me :|
glass fossil
troubles of game dev :p
small fern
@glass fossil ask yourself, do you really need the collision on top of the doorways
maiden loom
but Discord does do gifs
random parcel
maiden loom
I don't believe so
robust basalt
discord just being lazy these days
I think they only parse stuff when they have server capacity
maiden loom
first random gif from Discord:
https://i.imgur.com/s0dA14P.mp4
.mp4 file extension, works fine
(also, what?)
robust basalt
or they are working on it, just noticed that gyazo gifs randomly work sometimes, sometimes they don't
maiden loom
I think some individual gifs may be encoded in a way that cannot be played back
obtuse vale
maiden loom
hah
I've been throwing plenty of bones to the guys in the office doing the jam, but they don't have a game to show yet
robust basalt
gotta work on your bone throwing skills then ๐
hearty ferry
@glass fossil For the AI to work, does your navmesh go through the door? It should work, as I have doors using subtractive brushes and my enemies walk through it. Also, if the doors open/close during gameplay, make sure the navmesh can update during runtime.
maiden loom
I have work to do :p
glass fossil
@hearty ferry i made the door to ignore vehicle and set nav mesh collision object to vehicle. In editor it has links between it, when I play, it disappears
But I don't need that anymore
I will make it so he goes only in corridors
It sounds better
hearty ferry
Pros of working for a small company: I can work on the jam instead of work during office hours without needing to worry about deadlines
maiden loom
I like deadlines
I like the wooshing noise they make as the roar past me at high speed.
hearty ferry
That is indeed a nice sound
Still, being inbetween projects that have a strict deadline, and just being able to work a bit more relaxed, it's nice every now and then
vagrant wharf
Is there any way in ue4 to lock the characters hand in one place to hold a torch while the animations play?
robust basalt
sure
several with animBPs
you can blend by bone
or use slots
or two bone IK
vagrant wharf
How does it look on the flashlight? @glass fossil
glass fossil
just colors
vagrant wharf
Ok
glass fossil
yay now player has to find the flashlight, then find a key to closet (it will be hidden in dark corner randomly in level), and open the closet, there will be a key to front door and you can leave then ๐
and there will be a black guy walking around the level, if he catches you, you die
jovial thistle
crisp coyote
good luck guys, I'm off for tonight
grizzled zenith
crap my motivation is dead
rigid fog
@grizzled zenith Noo, why?!
grizzled zenith
idk, I've spent too much time debugging stuff and haven't accomplished that much concidering it's the 4th day in
and now I realized that the movement speed is way off when I lower my fps
rigid fog
Man
@grizzled zenith All I have to say to you is: don't give up.
You can accompish a lot more than you think in the next few days
If you are running into a lot of bugs, simplify your systems
glass fossil
@rigid fog is saying real good shit
rigid fog
Take a look at them
Draw them out on a board or paper
Find wtf is going on and if you can simplify your systems
You just spent 4 days working on a project
Don't let it go to waste
glass fossil
@rigid fog how u doing with ur game?
rigid fog
@glass fossil lmfao, well let's just say that sometimes things go as planned while other times, they don't. I mean, had to practically start over from scratch yesterday ๐
glass fossil
lol
glass fossil
gl then
glass fossil
DEM SKILLS
zenith gust
Is the website extremely slow for anyone else right now?
compact cedar
Well, since he's in the game already i think it's safe to share...
https://twitter.com/mc_lo/status/927603350887116800
zenith gust
Nice!
rigid fog
@compact cedar Oh baby!
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oh boy if only he knew what comes next
glass fossil
Lol
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who wants to see the next gif? ๐
glass fossil
Me
compact cedar
@proven badge i'm recievend bits of insanity from this game
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tada
glass fossil
Xd
violet kestrel
That like something straight outta Sid's room from Toy Story
glass fossil
That's hilarious
keen pewter
That is amazing haha
rigid fog
@proven badge lol
indigo citrus
Hello, I want to participate in Epic MegaJam, but my team consists of 4 16-year-old schoolchildren. Is there a way to take part in the competition, for example through the father or something? (according to the rules the minimum age is 18)
rigid fog
hmm
@copper carbon ^ ?
I mean, whatever the rules state is law
but
I know it would suck to have someone "claim" to have a team of 5
to increase their chances of raffles
Because you know...people sadly do that
Which is why I don't like the random raffles as much.
Of course...
there's really no way to verify age, unless they state showing a picture ID with date of birth of each team member when submitting
Now that would be awesome
But, of course, no idea the legality of it
Sadly, if people are going to cheat, it's just going to happen. I wish there were more things protecting jammers from cheaters though.
rigid fog
Cheating or lying should never be excusable though ๐
BUt read the rules
Read that fine print
glass fossil
Today I didn't do a lot :/
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glass fossil
Omg what's all that
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what does it look like? ๐
glass fossil
Potato electricity ๐ฅ
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yup
glass fossil
That for game jam?
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why else i'd be posting it here ๐
glass fossil
๐ค 
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guess what is my game about ๐
austere swift
becouse im much more tech than art, i created a parametric dungeon door for my dungeons
rigid fog
@austere swift you're doing megajam?
austere swift
yes, but badly
rigid fog
solo?
rigid fog
heh
austere swift
and well, my art/level design skills suck
plus ive barely given it 3 hours
becouse ive been doing translation stuff and just dont really knowing what to do
austere swift
dwvr
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I think he means movement in 3d space
austere swift
no, ive added spanish and french translations to dwvr
compact cedar
Twitter
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well it doesn't break entirely
compact cedar
stable kiln
hmm, should i just do some turning on lights like most submissions? ๐
i made my own lighting system , but it was buttugly
robust basalt
we have tetris shaped lights
stable kiln
I made a character, not sure what too do with him :/
stable kiln
ahh but i done that allready
hmm i could do my 2nd attempt at a local coop
nah lets not
rigid fog
@glass fossil Love it
dull pendant
hehe, @glass fossil great for supporting me on the art side ๐
glass fossil
i wanted to kind of the break the style because the characters are gods that want to light up the world so they can get believers
@dull pendant Leeeet's freaking go!
zenith gust
Looking really nice! ^
glass fossil
thanks man!
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@glass fossil nice curves
compact cedar
IMO Epic GameJams* are amazing! I'm struggling to make something great again!
*(other jams are obviously amazing too)
compact cedar
@rigid fog I did! It was amazing...and after it I barely made something. And, here, Jam again forcing me to work!
compact cedar
i.e. my work mostly - boring, not like game jams
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if not jam i'd be nolifing on sc2 or overwatch right now.. really only thing that motivates me lately ๐
rigid fog
Always nice to see what folks can come up with
@proven badge Oh, you play SC2?
Hmmm
I might have to 1v1 you sometime
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started last month, super new to it
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got hooked right away
rigid fog
I loved SC1 though, vanilla
I played that for 8 years easy
Yeah, Blizzard and their strategy games...
They always hit the mark
But sadly.... MOBAs are killing RTS'
proven badge
not really
rigid fog
?
proven badge
different audience entirely
rigid fog
Nope
If you look at the pro teams
You will see the shift
While there are still pro teams that do all of them
proven badge
its not a team game
rigid fog
SC/League/OW, etc
rigid fog
Hm, maybe, I mean, other than 1v1, it is
wtf
hmm
need to get a FFA going
I was pretty good with Terran
I just wish Epic would fix long-standing bugs
Every once in awhile when I hit Save and then quickly hit Compile (or viceversa). shit goes boom
austere swift
not the char
rigid fog
I won't lie
All these characters look dope
I am super jealous of your character artists!
I might have to pick that up on the side from now on
glass fossil
lel i'm basically doing every thing art related whilst watching tutorials, only a lighitng artist right here :p
keen pewter
I cant art at all lol. Everything I have is always usually programmer art :/
So im always super jelly
austere swift
i have a insane bottleneck due to a lack of creativity and art skills
i have all the tech skills needed and know pretty much all of the techniques and theory
dull pendant
I let @glass fossil do the art basically.
rigid fog
@dull pendant And you did gameplay?
glass fossil
yes, he does the stuff i know jack shit about :p
keen pewter
Makes me sad, wish I coulda been participating this go around ๐ฆ alas, must go to work instead ๐ฆ
zenith gust
I've spent the time I've had so far on gameplay and some materials to support them, now to cram out a shitload of programmer art the coming evenings ๐
Who needs sleep anyway!
rigid fog
What's that?
austere swift
moved the parametric walls to make parametric floor
i tihnk i now have enough to build all the level
glass fossil
that's one fancy character!
austere swift
its a game about bitchslapping shadows
glass fossil
hahahahah sounds fun
austere swift
you run around the map lighting the torches while fighting shadows coming from all over the place
but level design is a mayor weakness of me. I dont think ill be able to have interesting levels
keen pewter
I mean, all im good at is programming which makes it hard since I work alone lol
glass fossil
yeah we were lucky that we work in a nice company with some good designers that helped us a bit
zenith gust
houdini looks like such wonderful procedural magic, will have to grab myself a license sometime
austere swift
but its free right now
3 months
due to the jam
well, there is an apprentice license for learning, but you cant export anything
houdini "indie" lets you export to unreal
zenith gust
I do a bit of procgen now and then for fun, but houdini looks like it does most things you'd ever want out of the box
unique charm
yeah houdini is definitely on my "i want to learn" list
glass fossil
can't be bothered to learn it in 3 months
austere swift
good luck learning it in 3 months
im starting to be able to do some of the modelling stuff, basic-ish level, after a couple weeks of tinkering. But i know pretty much all 3d softwares and know programming really well
so i can program my own nodes to do stuff
zenith gust
That's what so enticing about it to me, programmer art on a new level!
austere swift
pretty much
uneven basin
ehh this constant late night working is messing with my head, not really sure what day is it
dull pendant
I never have enough time to do both programming and art in 1 jam. And then my art would be meh anyways
uneven basin
2 days before deadline right?
compact cedar
Okay, more news from uncanny valley...
btw, all those gifs are messups, it's not how it will be in the game...so, no spoilers ๐
zenith gust
You're producing quite nice-looking failures ๐
rigid fog
discord is getting poopier and poopier every day
compact cedar
@zenith gust hahah, yeah...i thought they are quite nice, but i'm not sure i'll have time to polish them and put in to game as easter eggs or something
rigid fog
why did they minimize gyazo gifs
so tiny now
@compact cedar what did you use for that gif?
compact cedar
@rigid fog to make it?
rigid fog
aye
and upload on here
cause discord doesn't do gyzao direct links as good anymore
so sad
compact cedar
ScreenToGif2 to make, and just drag'n drop here (up to 8mb is fine iirc)
nova oxide
Twitter
crisp coyote
@nova oxide Nice!!!
nova oxide
thanks man! ๐
glass fossil
For a puzzle game, what would be a decent amount of levels?
crisp coyote
looks like the same mech as that arena game on oculus?
nova oxide
lone echo? yea very similar
nova oxide
hehe
sage spoke
Hello there.. How's Jam going for everyone..
dusky vessel
I feel like every time I do a jam I spend most of my programming time farting with the UI
rigid fog
@dusky vessel uyi sucks
ui
So much shit you gotta do with it
I'm tempted to hire out a UI dev just for that next time
UI/UX
2D
sexy
glass fossil
I just added 5 borders layer out as battery and hide them depending on integer value 0 to 5
And some text messages
And in general ui for me is very fast to do
glass fossil
Can u show pls?
rigid fog
Meh
At least you have art
I have two BSP boxes
But I'm going to make these boxes my b*tches
glass fossil
Someone had low poly Rome idk how it will be good with darkness
stable kiln
lol no i dont have that much content, i would spoil it all ๐
rigid fog
damn
I forgot I left stuff running in the background
I wonder if it's time to optimize now
Or just wait until Thursday morning
๐
glass fossil
I don't really know what's going on in that pic
rigid fog
Meh
It's just tracking all the shit going on in game at that point in time
using debuggers
Anyway, basically lots of shit running on tick for some reason
glass fossil
I use that thing which says the ms for physics, render etc (4 things)
rigid fog
Probably dumbass AI
actually
I know it's the AI
I just don't care about the AI anymore
glass fossil
U can do in tick delay for 0.1 second
glass fossil
I do that it helps
stable kiln
there are ticks in que ๐
rigid fog
Yeah
glass fossil
Well it has noise for refraction
stable kiln
its the one from automotive?
stable kiln
ohh nice
glass fossil
Well now it's even better
It was taken yesterday
How am I supposed to make a video 30 seconds long with 4 fps boi
stable kiln
sequencer ๐
stable kiln
they are not recording video themselves anymore?
glass fossil
optimise your games boiz and galls!
onyx hare
how's everyone holding up?
crisp coyote
I'm not there yet, waiting for art
glass fossil
at work so no progress ๐
crisp coyote
I'm also working so my one machine is rendering a job, and I' stuck on the shit-box for gamedev
but its probably better to dev on the shitbox.. if it runs there, it should run on most pcs
glass fossil
*Bakes some light in silence on gtx 1080 ๐
crisp coyote
lol, this is the second time during the jam I've saved my jam assets into my work database
glass fossil
hahaha i have @dull pendant to help me with switching workspaces :p
dull pendant
I can't get my p4v to work with p4config files which annoys me ๐ฆ
dull pendant
psh
I use it from different locations
don't really feel like hosting my own p4 server
hearty ferry
I just spend 30min trying to figure out why my function wouldn't do anything before realising I just never called the function...
stable kiln
lol i abandoned all my fancy plans due to time contraints and just go full fucktard ๐
hearty ferry
Haha yeah I also had to bring my projects scope way down
Had plans for 3 different enemies but ended up with 1 that has some bugs (instead of fixing the bug I just made it so you can't get in the situation that makes it bug)
small fern
@glass fossil you optimize that by not using any noise nodes at runtime
you can prebake the noise
use it as texture
some noise stuff might be ok, but there were some really heavy ones
I'd just disconnect part by part and see what makes the biggest difference
you don't have to run it through that visualizer
just look at your shader operation count in the material graph
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compact cedar
@proven badge are you making strategy game?
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maybe
copper carbon
@indigo citrus Sorry for the delay - was on the road a bit this weekend.
I can't prevent you from participating, but unfortunately, I can't award you all any prizes. We chatted internally and the 18+ call was made - there is some weirdness with sending items to minors. It's something I'd like to find a way to streamline for our future jams, as I'd like to be as inclusive as possible.
indigo citrus
@copper carbon Can we arrange to have the prizes sent, for example, to the parents?
hearty ferry
Finally starting on my art stuff. Have way less time for it than I thought I would have, so I guess it's just gonna be some "stylized" art, in programmer art style ๐
glass fossil
wait so its only 18+? shit. im 14 xd
vagrant wharf
I think it's only 18+ when you join the random prize things
glass fossil
oh
vagrant wharf
Cuz i'm 14 too
glass fossil
but participating without a prize is allowed tho if not 18? @copper carbon
zenith gust
Making an educated guess here:
Things always get a bit tricky when there are prices tied to a contest, iirc the rules for both the contest itself and the sweepstakes is 18+. If you're under 18 you can of course still make a game etc, but I don't think you can be in the actual contest? As that contains prices too, and as such has the 18+ stuff there for legal reasons
grizzled zenith
I doubt they'll get back my used t shirts
but just to be sure I'll hide them all
glass fossil
my parents are okay with prize, but i think its illegal :///////////
zenith gust
Think it's always been in the rules, just that the team hasn't been doublechecking ๐