@karmic fiber Here? Forums? Yelling?
#game-jam-chat
karmic fiber
Tried yelling but I live in a pretty lonely place, I recently moved to Sweden!
Last time I did a nice forum post but I don't remember where, probably there was a team up thread
will write here then! Allow me to setup a proper message
rigid fog
?
Just post what you're good at
And/or want to do in the jam
Although... @civic dock any chance we could have a tag for those looking for teams and those looking for team members? Something similar to #career-chat ? [LFM] [LFT] something simple like that?
And have it pinned
karmic fiber
Hello everyone! I am Snowbro (Eugenio Del Vecchio on Facebook). I just moved to the Spelkollektivet, a swedish game developer collective and I'd like to join this summer jam full time! I studied UE4 for 2 years and worked full time on VR for 1 year.
Mainly, I am design oriented, but so far, I can do:
- Blueprint scripting: mechanics prototyping and implementation. editor tools
- C++ coding: handling file I/O, working with .json, stuff like that
- Sequences with Unreal Sequencer
- Not too fancy material and particle effects
- Profiling/performance stuff, fixing deployment issues, handling repositories and everything else I forgot!
In this special occasion I am being joined by my girlfriend for some fancy sound design!
I am mainly looking for someone nice to jam with in general, but mainly I lack in 3d modelling and 2d art. I know it is pretty late and I don't expect to find anyone, but here I am anyway!
Much love.
maiden loom
I should chip in that, if there is an existing team with both code/BP and art skills on board, I'm willing to throw my lot in as a game designer for the jam.
(I am a game designer by trade, and work well with early concepts, so game jams are literally my jam)
rigid fog
Art Skills were lacking in here
maiden loom
yeah, they usually are
maiden loom
artists tend to hang out on the forums more
karmic fiber
I could be artist for this jam! Geometry art!
small fern
@rigid fog yeah, I thought the extra days could help but then again, I'll probably overestimate the scale accordingly then ๐
maiden loom
haha
small fern
will see about the theme, I'm kinda in the middle of learning CE atm, but could take a 5 day break if theme is nice
small fern
most valuable product
maiden loom
and keep it small and simple - the extra time is for polish, embellishment and iteration on your core prototype
small fern
all in
karmic fiber
yeah when a game jam lasts longer people tend to fuck up
small fern
I know
maiden loom
haha 'Minimum Viable Product'
small fern
and I know that too ;D
rigid fog
@small fern CE?
small fern
it's just, I usually start to fiddle with tech on game jams
@rigid fog the engine that spits out jungle fps games
maiden loom
lol
karmic fiber
how many people try jam games with gamepad?
rigid fog
CRYSIS
maiden loom
you can use a gamepad just fine
rigid fog
Did I ever tell you that the Lead Designer for Crysis was my Professor?
maiden loom
you can also do VR if you so desire
small fern
well, engine is CryEngine but yeah, that one
small fern
I think Snowbro is thinking about the gameplay, like should one support gamepads in game jams
rigid fog
CE, Unity, UE4, RPGMaker
small fern
I always implement gamepad support
rigid fog
lol
small fern
or more like, make sure it plays nice
rigid fog
CE/Lumberjack
maiden loom
for jams I defer to whichever scheme works best for the game
rigid fog
*yard
maiden loom
if it's better with a gamepad, build it for a pad
karmic fiber
I think some games are much better with gamepad
rigid fog
Controllers are usually simple
small fern
I don't particularly like mouse at all
rigid fog
But, sometimes, people don't have controllers
small fern
I play most games with gamepad even in front of the monitor
rigid fog
Or controllers ran outta juice
small fern
it's more relaxed that way
rigid fog
Hmmm, I rarely do gamepad if I am sitting at my desktop
The precision of the KB/M is op
But I guess it depends on the game
small fern
I've kinda learned myself to it, I don't care about precision unless it's an online shooter
and I don't really play those much
maiden loom
I defer to whichever scheme is suitable - shooters and strategy games are M&KB, some other games are gamepad
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
small fern
like, I'm currently playing Mafia 3 on hardest setting, no auto aim and I'm using gamepad
rigid fog
I am waiting on Steam Controller 2.0
small fern
sure you get some shots easier with mouse but you kinda get used to the pad
and it's way more intuitive to move around with analog sticks
at least, in 3rd person game
maiden loom
I find it slow and cumbersome in most
and if the game has artificial restrictions on turning when using a mouse, I just won't play it
small fern
one reason I prefer pad is the keybinds, they are always easy to put intuitively and easier to remember, especially since the main buttons are color coded
of course you learn the keybinds quickly if you play a game for a while (and you usually map the keys same way on fps games)
but still, it's one thing less to worry about as fps games still vary on default mappings
while gamepad mappings usually work just fine out of the box
(in modern era anyway, pre x360 controller times were pain)
willow sentinel
has this gamejam started? Can I still sign up?
small fern
you can sign as long as the jam is running
so till next tuesday
and it hasn't started yet
karmic fiber
welcome to the club @willow sentinel !
small fern
I see that <@&213101288538374145> have been active updating the topic on this channel ๐
sinful nacelle
small fern
Summer UE4jam! June 29th - July 4th: https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?145075-Summer-UE4jam!-June-29th-July-4th
I guess you could pin the theme when it's out ๐
announcement stream starts in hour
rigid fog
Time is flying
civic dock
Topic updated.
small fern
thanks ๐
dusky vessel
I feel bad because I'll probably have to go to sleep as the theme is being announced
stable kiln
@rigid fog u missed blender game engine ๐
rigid fog
@stable kiln ๐
stable kiln
id join a team, but preforce is allways such a hassle ๐
karmic fiber
you can use sourcetree
stable kiln
yea i used that once, somehow i use a diffrent client every jam ๐
digital fern
https://www.twitch.tv/unrealengine ue4 summer jam announcement!
small fern
forgot to check VS installation prior to jam
I literally wiped everything VS related out of the system few days ago and reinstalled VS2017
but it should work as it with UE4
small fern
THEME: BLESSING IN DISGUISE
compact cedar
Blessing indi-skies!
small fern
oh man, does this mean we are back to all odd themes again now that alex is leaving? ๐
civic dock
@grizzled zenith Wordnik is my go to! Check this out:
Super helpful for game jams.
grizzled zenith
These themes are getting harder
compact cedar
slaps @molten pewter
civic dock
@molten pewter Posting in #career-chat was enough. This is not the place. ๐
small fern
I'm pretty sure this is Chance theme
compact cedar
Is anyone looking for a 3d modeller for a game jam? 
molten pewter
sorry I assume game jams was working with others on a game, mb
I literally just asked that Alex
compact cedar
@molten pewter it is working with others on a GAME for a JAM!
molten pewter
as I am looking for a 3D modeller
civic dock
@molten pewter It is, but it's working on a game for a specific weekend event. ๐
molten pewter
My mistake, slap away
white crown
omg thats a hard theme
small fern
prepare to see priests dressed up as clowns in the streets, blessing people
digital fern
good luck everyone!
karmic fiber
I MISSED THE THEME
small fern
too late then
compact cedar
@digital fern are You participating?
grizzled zenith
This should reduce the amount of entries that take the theme very literally
compact cedar
@digital fern sob
small fern
karmic fiber
thanks olento
small fern
!gameidea
glass fossil
A strategy game where you inhibit spacetime in a laboratory.
civic dock
Aw yiss. Who's ready to jam?!
karmic fiber
I'll repost my announcement as I might still be looking for people to jam with
white crown
lol!
small fern
!better gameidea
civic dock
I'm going to be participating and streaming for the first time in ages. ๐
small fern
!gameidea
glass fossil
An action game where you crush hellhounds to unlock achievements and the graphics get better as you progress.
onyx hare
I'm ready to jam but I'm unable to jam because I'm in a crunch boo
white crown
BLESSING IN DISGUISE !gameidea
small fern
I'm ready to jam but theme kinda sucks ๐
white crown
my main character's dick got chopped off, but he found a dildo on his way home
small fern
well, I'm not feeling it yet @rigid fog
karmic fiber
LFG. going to jam full time. I am design oriented, but so far, I can do:
- Blueprint scripting: mechanics prototyping and implementation. editor tools
- C++ coding: handling file I/O, working with .json, stuff like that
- Sequences with Unreal Sequencer
- Not too fancy material and particle effects
- Profiling/performance stuff, fixing deployment issues, handling repositories and everything else I forgot!
In this special occasion I am being joined by my girlfriend for some sounds. I am mainly looking for someone nice to jam with in general, but mainly I lack in 3d modelling and 2d art. I know it is pretty late and I don't expect to find anyone, but here I am anyway!
Much love, kisses, caresses and everything good in the world
wise apex
I tend to never really get a good idea
small fern
I'd be ok with vague enough theme where one could just make any kind of game and slap theme to it ๐
glass fossil
A puzzle game where you slide under enchanted furniture because you were outcast by your family.
white crown
!gameidea
glass fossil
An adventure game where you quiz planet-devouring monsters to avenge your family in an abandoned apartment complex.
small fern
cursed chair was lucky after all?
grizzled zenith
wait what does outcast mean
small fern
someone that doesn't belong to anywhere
like banished person, thrown away from people I think
grizzled zenith
you didnt know either ๐
grave marlin
Is there a team with a programmer that needs a environment artist?
karmic fiber
!gameidea
glass fossil
A strategy game where you pinch unspeakable horrors to slow global warming in a sprawling labyrinth.
small fern
@grizzled zenith I'm actually surprized that site listed that as top definition ๐
white crown
omg global warming is good after all
small fern
it means hylkiรถ in finnish, hence suggesting that
pine fulcrum
That definition is ice cold
placid olive
I'm new to using unreal but if any teams would let me join so I can learn more that would be cool
white crown
grizzled zenith
I don't think it really fits the theme enough, maybe I'll give unrealbot another go
!gameidea
glass fossil
A strategy game where you vanquish ninjas to impress your friends on an empty space station but you can't see anything.
grizzled zenith
I like that
glass fossil
A simulation game where you survive an invasion of pixies to start a business and there's no gravity.
white crown
you stopped at the traffic light, but your friend Jack didnt. And he called you a pussy right before he got ran over by a truck
rigid fog
Looking for a 3D Artist to join the team.
remote linden
!gameidea
glass fossil
A strategy game where you try to understand DNA to start a business and the sun gives you more power.
remote linden
photosynthisising humans? xD
white crown
you lost your dog, but you ended up with loads of pussies
small fern
heh, I kinda got an idea but it's bit grim
remote linden
I feel like this theme was meant to make people go into the grim territory
small fern
once again, gotta reread the rules what one can put there
small fern
Submission may not depict nudity, animal cruelty, or illegal activity or substance, or offensive or obscene subject matter as determined in Sponsorโs sole discretion.
stable kiln
worst they can do is DQ ur submission ๐
small fern
somehow I think quite many entries in past have depicted illegal activity
it's kinda odd rule
small fern
like probably half of the games
carmine kindle
Murdering things probably isn't really legal
stable kiln
mayB poop in ur next swagbox, but odds are low on that happening ๐
small fern
well, my idea is definitely not legal in real world
white crown
just dont kill puppies pls
small fern
I mean, the gameplay elements
glass fossil
An action game where you fling a rapidly-evolving virus for the future of humankind in virtual reality but you're a ghost.
remote linden
wut xD
glass fossil
A horror game where you tackle villains to find a priceless treasure.
grizzled zenith
Sounds too much like a game that could actually happen
remote linden
xD
small fern
!gameidea
glass fossil
A simulation game where you fight an endless wave of bloodthirsty rabbits during World War I.
glass fossil
A strategy game where you generate enchanted furniture in the year 3,000 and you're the last of your kind.
small fern
oh, it's the cursed chair again
weary sluice
!gameidea
glass fossil
A simulation game where you propel philosophy to unlock a mysterious door inside a computer and the difficulty changes depending on the time of day.
weary sluice
!gameidea
glass fossil
A simulation game where you steal from a rapidly-evolving virus to save the universe inside a computer.
remote linden
this bot is like /r/SubredditSimulator
glass fossil
An adventure game where you click on particle accelerators during the Roaring Twenties but you're made of fire.
glass fossil
A shooting game where you perform experiments on tombs to save the universe and your sidekick is a monster.
weary sluice
glass fossil
A puzzle game where you threaten crows to earn badges and you only have a few minutes to live.
glass fossil
A simulation game where you stare at mermen to earn badges in a pitch black room and everyone in the game speaks a different language.
weary sluice
lmao
glass fossil
A fighting game where you provoke jokes to live forever and you are constantly doing backflips.
remote linden
hahahahaha
glass fossil
An action game where you fling mermaids in another galaxy.
remote linden
"fling" xD
glass fossil
An adventure game where you whack gargoyles to escape the clutches of an evil time lord and everything you touch turns into more enemies.
remote linden
!gameidea
glass fossil
An adventure game where you stare at boredom to stop a giant asteroid from hitting Earth on the set of a blockbuster action film.
weary sluice
hmm this does not sound bad
remote linden
I'm actually really excited to see what people have come up with, at the end
this is such a challenging theme
weary sluice
hmm i do have few ideas
remote linden
I don't even know how you'd really, accurately portray that idea in a game D;
I have a few ideas, but they don't really feel like they'd be very interactible. More like an animation, or maybe a choose your own adv..... oh snap
remote linden
yeah that's my problem... seems like I'm leaning more towards an interactive story. Like, a multiple choice kinda thing. Like in Firewatch
versed needle
!gameidea
glass fossil
A strategy game where you annihilate kittens to slow global warming in a deathmatch arena and you have incredibly good luck.
remote linden
wtf bot! D:
fading rock
how do you stare at boredom?
remote linden
Name somebody Borndem?
fading rock
Anthony Boredom. Chef with no entertaining skills.
remote linden
The idea bot wants us to commit mass murder on kittens... is this who the bot is or what?
wary egret
!gameidea
glass fossil
An action game where you defy ghouls in a deathmatch arena and there's no gravity.
remote linden
http://elitedaily.com/life/motivation/9-blessings-disguise-encounter-choose-overlook/730348/ Here's a good resource, maybe?
sly scarab
!gameidea
glass fossil
A puzzle game where you mentor appliances for glory in cyberspace but a terrifying monster is slowly coming toward you the whole time.
wary egret
!gameidea
glass fossil
A racing game where you drive luxury cars before the apocalypse.
remote linden
lol
civic dock
Mad Max in Beverly Hills.
remote linden
If you drive luxury cars today, isnt that technically before the apocalypse?
fading rock
You die but then you come back to life as a zombie to fight crime?
remote linden
That could work :D
fading rock
pfist said a blessing = a group of unicorns
remote linden
xD
fading rock
!gameidea
glass fossil
A racing game where you sail yachts to escape the clutches of an evil time lord.
wary egret
!gameidea
glass fossil
A puzzle game where you cripple love to conquer the known universe but the game won't stop scrolling down.
remote linden
sounds exciting
civic dock
Yeah that yacht one is actually pretty good.
glass fossil
A fighting game where you push bread on an empty space station but you only have 1 minute to do it.
fading rock
Bad Unrealbot! No~
glass fossil
A role-playing game where you write about slime to avenge your lover.
stable kiln
i should prolly start making something and hope the theme connection comes later ๐
remote linden
HOUSTON! We have lost visual of the bread!!
-What happened to it?
....Sombody pushed it!
(DUN DUN DUUUUUUN)
wary egret
HAHA
fading rock
lol
wary egret
!gameidea
glass fossil
An action game where you flatten animals during the apocalypse.
sly scarab
tell us what you thinking and we can help you with that
remote linden
wth is up with this bot and wanting to murder all these animals?!
fading rock
!gameidea
glass fossil
A shooting game where you control books to form an invincible empire.
remote linden
u wut
fading rock
My books and I will destroy you all.
remote linden
it could be called... The Librarian
civic dock
lol
fading rock
Blessing in disguise= they are all bibles?
remote linden
oh oh, or "The Book Keeper"
fading rock
Unreal bot is an atheist that likes to kill animals.
Fitting the stereotype of a robot pretty well.
stable kiln
not the cylons in battlestar galactica
remote linden
What kind of art styles are you guys thinking of doing?
civic dock
Still coming up with ideas, so it depends.
remote linden
yeah same here... plus we gotta be able to make everything in less than a week :L
remote linden
yeah, gives us some wiggle room
Yeah, this would be good to make a game in the usual time, and then polish it
stable kiln
nah, i dont polish ๐
remote linden
xD
stable kiln
thats for ppl with OCD
remote linden
I'm gonna try and go for the best visuals and android goal.. got some ideas to make it work :D
civic dock
Nice!
stable kiln
im gunna use the varest plugin and store huge amounts of data on the cloud
remote linden
Go for it! I'm assuming that not a lot of people here have VR? Would be a great category to try and rule :D
stable kiln
i can ductape a monitor to my head, but its just not the same i think ๐
remote linden
xD
I wonder if anyone has made a binaural VR game
so you're blind, but you can still play it, based on realistic sound enviroments
carmine kindle
I think someone once made a game that was just based on sounds and the screen was just entirely black the whole time.
remote linden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPsonixo-vg
This would be amazing in a game
grizzled zenith
@carmine kindle there was a game jam for that
carmine kindle
I think it was in one of the UE4 jams, could be wrong though.
remote linden
Oh really? I'll have to look it up :D
carmine kindle
It was ages ago though probably.
remote linden
What version are you guys going to be using?
civic dock
Of the engine?
remote linden
yeah
civic dock
I'll be using the latest, 4.16.
carmine kindle
4.16 because I can give everything physicsy cloth capes then
remote linden
oh nice :D
stupid question, but the rules say,"and ends on July 4, 2017 at 0:00 AM EST " does this mean that the second it turns July 4th, the contest is over?
carmine kindle
Aim to get your game up and submitted a fair bit before that. If you go a second over, it probably won't be bad, but if you're way late you won't qualify for prizes I think.
remote linden
Ok cool, just wanted to make sure :)
Thank you
civic dock
Not sure how strict they'll be about it since the official forum thread says "The jam ends on Tuesday, July 4 during the Unreal Engine livestream.
Which is also weird since they just told us on today's stream that starting next week there is no more Tuesday stream. ๐ค
grizzled zenith
We've won with late submission so its not bad
remote linden
Oh good. Yeah they don't seem like they're very strict. They just want to encourage people to make games :D
small fern
where does that 0:00 AM EST even read?
remote linden
In the rules word document... one sec
small fern
I can only see The jam ends on Tuesday, July 4th during the Unreal Engine livestream.
small fern
ah
that's probably copy/paste error
they didn't change the actual end time, just date
remote linden
in what part?
small fern
it used to end at midnight
remote linden
yeah that is midnight
small fern
yeah, they just forgot to change the time
remote linden
oh gotcha
small fern
@copper carbon can you fix the time from official game jam rules?
oh wait
they did tell they are going to stream less often
is there even stream on next tuesday?
but anyway
forum thread says this too: "Post the following to the submission thread before the end of the Tuesday, July 4th Livestream"
so you technically have time until the tuesdays stream ends, if there is that stream
copper carbon
Oops - I'll go fix it!
There is not a stream next Tuesday. It's a US holiday ๐ฎ
small fern
oh, so is that midnight the real end time then?
I was under impression it would be from stream to stream but if it's by midnight, it'll be bit less time
copper carbon
We're gonna end it at 2PM ET.
small fern
ah, that's cool
in that case, I think the countdown clock is wrong too
btw, the post also says this The jam ends on Tuesday, July 4th during the Unreal Engine livestream. on the line right before the line you just changed
That line isn't really needed even as the following line says it anyways
civic dock
Thanks for popping in and clarifying @copper carbon! ๐
copper carbon
of course ^_^
small fern
yay, 14 more hours now ๐
stable kiln
lol i thought she was some new version of unreal bot ๐
small fern
I think the only place with the old time is now in the official contest rules (that word doc)
copper carbon
beep boop bop
stable kiln
!gameidea
glass fossil
An action game where you poison dinosaurs to form an invincible empire.
small fern
so that's how they extinct
stable kiln
this theme is damn hard, art or gameplay wize ...
remote linden
I feel like it works best through a story
small fern
I kinda have a vision but I'd need to implement a framework that UE4 doesn't really provide out of the box
remote linden
what kinda framework?
small fern
just a game in a genre that requires lots of custom work on controller side
it's doable though
remote linden
oh gotcha
fading rock
Good idea Olento
stable kiln
lol i wunna try some pretty elaborate system, but it wil takes 20 times longer than last jam, wont add anything too theme connection and wont be as fun as my last jam ๐
fading rock
Please poke holes in my design - https://sites.google.com/bluevoidstudios.com/unicornfarts/blessed-forest?authuser=1
stable kiln
will u use the marketplace unicorn?
fading rock
oooh I didn't know there was one
remote linden
Sounds pretty fun, but I'm not sure how it fits the theme
stable kiln
cuz id love to see that jam ๐
small fern
I don't see the disguise either
remote linden
would still be cool to see regardless of the theme
fading rock
Well you know the unicorns would be hidden... disguise = hidden?
fading rock
Lol that is one derpalicious unicorn.
civic dock
Or so the internet tells me. ๐
fading rock
remote linden
LOL
fading rock
I dunno if I'd use wiki as a reference but I do want to make a game with unicorns...
remote linden
there should be a "Well, technically..." category xD
civic dock
lol
stable kiln
well i just started with the system i wunna build and see about the theme later
in the end making something worth playin beats the whole theme thing for me ๐
usually i pull it right in the end tho
fading rock
ok ok for the disguise. What if you constantly encountered wild horses and you had to make sure to take pics of only unicorns. So like pfist was telling me about another gamejam game with wolf in sheeps clothing sor of scenario.
remote linden
Maybe when you start the game, you could have a "loading" screen that has the definition in it.
bless-ing
n.\bles'ing
"A group of unicorns."
somber hazel
oh god, I didn't touch Skeletal Mesh Import from Blender for half a year
everything changed
:3
nothing works
๐
stable kiln
gratz on the 555 answerhub thingy ๐
somber hazel
โค thx @stable kiln
Going for that 777
;P
Maybe someone will answer Blender Import
stable kiln
there was a blender stream recent
somber hazel
yeah, but I probably just need to change 1 button
stable kiln
im still on an older version
stable kiln
soon a big blender overhaul i think so ill just w8 a bit
well i dont do that advanced stuff anyways so i doubt much will change for me LO
somber hazel
I have a game here Owni, that could fit some of your older 2D games hehe
stable kiln
somber hazel
close ๐
stable kiln
this jam is gunna be like the theme was: you dont know until its gone
my avatar farted in the end and it said : you had gass and now its gone
somber hazel
stupid me, Blender works fine, I forgot that Forward Shading + Unchecked Support Stationary Skylight is broken in Unreal
Lightning needs to be rebuilt, hey chat, how you doin'?
stable kiln
im doin fast light builds ๐
sly scarab
are you guys having any progress?
carmine kindle
Yes.
remote linden
a bit, yeah :D
somber hazel
Kinda
stable kiln
yea, but not really theme wize ๐
I set up a leaderboard cloud sorta thing w/o a game ๐
considering my lvl design sucks balls i kinda wunna do a lvl editor like super mario maker
ive done a few tests lately and they worked but i have no idea if it would work full scale with multiple ppl usin it
not too mention a lvl builder for a crappy game is kinda useless too ๐
well i can store up too 1gig of floats and string on firebase and have 10 gig download each months so i might as well go crazy with it
white crown
good luck everyone
after a long ass brainstorming session, i finally settled down on something doable
stable kiln
I recently tried the volumetric fog thing soo ill prolly overuse this ๐
silver swan
the game could be just entirely volumetric fog
stable kiln
making light shafts look ugly
silver swan
cause vol fog is a blessing in disguise you think its great till your performance is really shit
well the reverse of it anyway
stable kiln
set up volumetric fog and a BP that sends floats too firebase
but yea, this fog with lights does kinda tank my fps
If i learned anything from crappy steam games.... when ur fps drops under 30 fps its ready for shipping ๐
remote linden
How did you figure out the secret to making a successful AAA game?!
carmine kindle
You also need to have motion blur on so people don't see that the fps is low, they'll think it's just moving super fast.
wise apex
Over market the fact that the game runs at close to the standard framerate for a film as well.
dusky vessel
!gameidea
glass fossil
A role-playing game where you fight the last of the clouds in a pitch black room but you're the size of a planet.
dusky vessel
Having trouble coming up with an idea that fits the theme well
fading rock
!gameidea
glass fossil
An action game where you jump on controversial topics in virtual reality.
civic dock
@dusky vessel Same here, but trying a new technique is helping.
I'm writing down any old idea as they come. Even if they're all bad ideas, some might combine and give inspiration that way.
I feel like it's hard to come up with a good one if you don't iterate quickly.
This way I can keep track of the ideas I've already had, review them periodically, etc.
๐
dusky vessel
I really can't come up with anything good: it's all just variations on "go around helping people covertly as [jesus/angel/superhero]"
civic dock
Maybe think about it more broadly?
The meaning of the phrase "blessing in disguise" is: An apparent misfortune that eventually has good results..
You can do a lot with that, I think.
unkempt scarab
Anyone know who I gotta PM to get my assembla account set up?
civic dock
Looks like you PM Alex, but maybe try Amanda. I'm pretty sure Alex is leaving tomorrow.
unkempt scarab
can you link me her profile or tell me her last name so I can look it up?
unkempt scarab
Thanks, bud ๐
somber hazel
Why didn't I touch Ragdolls way earlier, looks like fun
Always thought it's silly
Changed my mind
unkempt scarab
it's a lot of fun, but I ended up wasting hours just throwing my dude around ๐
somber hazel
^:D
unkempt scarab
D:
rigid fog
The fun begins in earnest
remote linden
Wha? I thought we were pulling an all weeker! :P
dusky vessel
It's been a few hours and I still can't think of a decent idea to do with this game jam theme
I'm thinking I should just wing it, do whatever I feel like, and just not worry about the theme
civic dock
Yeah.
If the whole first day goes by and you can't get into the theme, it's better to finish something than to back out, imo. ๐
The best thing about jams is getting practice shipping something, I think.
somber hazel
I already have a character and even set up some Animation
I think I will be able to ship this time :3
But that's also what I said last time ;P
small fern
temped to compile 4.17
because, I always compile unreleased UE4 version for game jams
why break the tradition
I only have 71 GB free on C though
and that'll probably take 50
mainly interested on the new clothing tools there
but I'm not even sure if they are in master yet
tbh, I didn't check if some version made it to 4.16 either
small fern
and 1.5 h later, still compiling ๐
well, more like 1h later
it appears that master compiles way longer than actual releases
4.15 took 46 minutes on this comp
still compiling shaders, just realized I compiled 4.18 and not 4.17.. oh well
stable kiln
@rigid fog i was kinda in doubt myself but did do the update
that one jam right after an update had soo many crashing games ..
rigid fog
@stable kiln haha. Only ran into that random crash. Seems to happen when you delete something from a level.
small fern
hmmm, I don't think these clothing tools are ready in master
rigid fog
But not reproducible.
small fern
I still need apx for cloth to paint anything
could try manually bringing something in but the whole point in being able to do cloth in editor was to remove the need for external tools
I guess I'll just stick to 4.16 then, cloth thing was only thing I wanted to use the newer version
stable kiln
in 4.16 you actually need to point too the lvls to include into the package btw
carmine kindle
You can paint cloth weights in 4.16 without any external tools
small fern
how?
I found the cloth paint tool but it didn't really seem to do anything without apx
carmine kindle
I think by default the cloth paint window doesn't open, so you have to open it from the top menu bar
small fern
well, I needed to enable it first from editor settings->experimental, and I got the dialog open, just wasn't obvious how one would use it after that step
that dialog literally had apx slots in the top
rigid fog
@stable kiln on now you have to include levels you want... manually...good and bad.
small fern
I've almost always listed the levels manually on packaging settings anyway
rigid fog
But yeah. Might as well do a package test once I have had my coffee
And figure out what everyone was up to while I was asleep
carmine kindle
There's info there that tells you how to do the cloth stuff https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?143302-Is-there-a-documentation-tutorial-for-the-4-16-Built-in-cloth-system
rigid fog
@small fern yeah, I have been excluding directories and maps lately myself
small fern
I havent really been following ue4 forums in months now
stable kiln
its bad if you dont know you have to include the maps and you have no idea why ur menu doesnt open em ๐
small fern
@carmine kindle ah, I missed that section selection button was related to clothing tools, this explains things
I didn't find any option to actually create the cloth asset anywhere so I was confused
I don't like naming conventions like that, things should be obvious just by looking at them
but yeah, I'll stick to 4.16.2 then, I don't really need any feats from master
now need to wait for VA to parse all engine files for 4.16 again
small fern
hmmm, 4.16.2 executable size is a lot bigger
oh, I must have built win64 version
32bit version doesn't even build though
we don't have sub 100Mb category this time though, would have still wanted to minimize the size
also, BP nativization throws errors on template ๐
(it's a c++ project)
carmine kindle
You're scaring me into packaging to see if it even works.
small fern
shipping x64 without nativization seems to work for me
I also tested the 32bit stuff with full rebuild, just in case but couldn't get it to package
89 MB for the template packaged with x64 build, no blacklisting or asset stripping
could get ~15MB off with 32bit build I think
unkempt scarab
was anyone able to create a P4 depot on Assembla yet?
rigid fog
@unkempt scarab What's the issue?
While I have left the Assembla business (since I don't like how they changed their business model out of nowhere)
I have worked in it enough
unkempt scarab
I just sent amanda another email
I have a space set up and all that but I can't create a p4 depot
it tells me to contact the sales team for that
I can set up git but not P4
@rigid fog Thanks either way ๐
rigid fog
@unkempt scarab Yeah, that's about the time I left that
They messed up their whole set up by being greedy
$45/month per user, tsk tsk
When Perforce is free for up to 5
Essentially, you're paying $225/ month for server space
everything else they do, doesn't add much value
You can get yourself a droplet for 5-10 a month
and do the same thing with more access and control
When it was $40/month for perforce, for 5 users, I was content
They couldn't justify the 500% increase
unkempt scarab
I mean... It's still that price because someone is paying for it
more than likely
unkempt scarab
cool, I just figured I'd use the free services that were offered for the jam. I probably could have spent less time setting up my linux box with p4 server ๐
it's all good though
thanks for your help!
rigid fog
How is everyone's jam going so far?
small fern
bit slow start but building the framework now
rigid fog
@small fern Nice!
I built up some PUG team, slow and steady progress, they are good peeps.
small fern
like monkey islands
small fern
I grew up with those games, I know it's not a popular genre anymore but always wanted to make one some day
remote linden
What do you guys think of one of the characters so far? :)
somber hazel
^ Lovely
remote linden
:3
somber hazel
I made some Stick characters :3
remote linden
At least you're workflow is way faster than mine xD
somber hazel
๐
Don't worry, wasted 2 hours to find the magic button that makes my animation stop when using ragdoll
somber hazel
lmao
remote linden
yeah this character took around 3.5 hours to make. Was technically my first and original character I've ever made. So hopefully the next 2 will go way faster, now that I know what I'm doing
somber hazel
I already throw in some animation and made all the anims and what not, feels great to have something "playable" early
stable kiln
is a timeline update just as heavy as tick?
somber hazel
Adding a timeline is the only thing that should make you concern about something, but update and tick is pretty much the same/ you shoulnd't care
There was a post from Peter L. Newton, who said something interesting about Timer and Tick, I think Timer was CPU bound and Tick GPU bound or something
stable kiln
i got it from an epic tutorial, so i guess it should be fine
somber hazel
What's the real hashtag on twitter for the jam?
#ue4jam
?
Also, is that even a thing? ^^
stable kiln
lol 1st submission is in ๐
remote linden
LOL that's amazing
somber hazel
woopsie, just realized I can't spell ApplyingForce
civic dock
Hey folks! How are the jam games coming?
fading rock
Lol I've never had a video tutorial whisper secrets to me before. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fXQhILVl9U
remote linden
@civic dock Good so far! I got a great (hopefully) story planned out, just designing the characters and some assets now
civic dock
Cool! Can't wait to see progress shots. ๐
remote linden
This is my first progress shot, but I'm actually going to redo the character design. Going to be a lot more boxy and flat, while still retaining their distinct characteristics. I actually think this new idea will work better anyways. Saves me time in almost every aspect, but it allows for a more expressive feel to them
remote linden
Thanks! Sticking to a nautical color scheme :)
stable kiln
got 13 widgets, startin to drown in em ๐
remote linden
Merchandise idea for devs... Widget spinners
remote linden
Do that too
somber hazel
that's a great idea ;P
somber hazel
yeah, sitting 2 much already ;P
remote linden
I just made cookies too.... not the best idea, and THE BEST idea I've had xD
stable kiln
hmm i get a package warning that my cast will allways fail, but it never fails ๐
somber hazel
I learnt so much about packaging the last 2 weeks while helping others on answerhub
My first build will be my last build ๐
stable kiln
fixed the warning anyways... all that white text.... its soo pretty ๐
well my on the fly leaderboard seems to be kinda workin
fallow lion
wondering what your game is going to look like in the next days @stable kiln ๐
stable kiln
well i prolly cant do anything monday and tuesday so i dunno ๐
fallow lion
need get that wierdeness done
stable kiln
doin my best ๐
remote linden
She has hair now! (night time render)
civic dock
Looking good!
remote linden
It's kinda funny that I've spent my entire day making her, and you don't even play as her...
civic dock
Oh. lol!
remote linden
You only see her like, half the game Dx
civic dock
Well at least now maybe you have the character workflow down, so making others will be faster? ๐
remote linden
yeah seems like I might... I couldn't figure out how I was going to do the hair earlier, so I took a break. I came back and whipped it up in like 5 minutes. Hopefully it stays that way :P
somber hazel
civic dock
Ah, there we go. ๐
somber hazel
Ah.... it's working ^^
remote linden
xD
Kinda reminds me of Totally Accurate Battle Simulator
civic dock
I am a terrible jammer. I'm still figuring out what to make. This theme is killing me.
remote linden
I'm taking the story route.
Let your character go through a terrible situation, but just one step later, it turns out to be a wonderful story afterwards
*in the long term
remote linden
Oh nice :D
Yeah I had a terrible time trying to figure out an idea for that kind of style. I really can't wait to try out your guys' arcadey games :D
rigid fog
Need a nap....then more crunch for jam....
The theme was good
I think it was definitely one of the more thought provoking ones for sure.
somber hazel
I started with this comic
Then I realized, I don't have time for such a character, need to cut it ;P
rigid fog
And I am sure we lost some jammers who just couldn't come up with anything for it.
remote linden
LOL
I love that comic!
rigid fog
But TBH, you don't even have to abide by the theme. Some jam winners have gone on to win without theme connection
remote linden
wait really?
rigid fog
Yeah, plenty in fact
As theme connection is only one category that they look at.
I don't like it though
civic dock
Yeah, they also judge fun factor and overal visuals.
rigid fog
Since anyone could submit prior work and say they built it during jam, just didn't want to follow theme
But alas, we can only do so much
civic dock
I don't remember, though... do they pick all 3 finalists using all 3 of those metrics, or is there 1 finalist for each?
remote linden
...that's true... I guess it's really an honesty system
civic dock
Ah. I wasn't sure because the forum thread makes it sound that way, but the rules doc says otherwise.
rigid fog
Then special ones
Yeah, they need to update their rules
It is probably two years old
civic dock
lol
rigid fog
You laugh, but I am probably right
civic dock
Well, the rules doc has the correct special category prizes, so it's not completely out of date.
rigid fog
Yeah, they must have updated it for the new jams
But probably didn't do a full look over
civic dock
The main point of confusion is the rules doc doesn't have a Major Categories header above the main 3.
So it makes it sound like "All games are judged against these 3 criteria", which sounds like you need to have a balance to win.
civic dock
But the forum thread makes it look more like you could pick one and go for that.
Just like the special categories.
rigid fog
Yup. That's how it has always been under the hood though
If you remember the first Epic Jam
They made it more clear
Or was it second. Who knows. With their categories.
civic dock
You're right. It was the first one.
"Instead of normalizing the scores across each judgement criteria, we're giving teams the ability to target one specifically and compete to be the best in a given category." https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?83792-Epic-MegaJam!-October-8-15th-2015-THEME-STANDING-ON-THE-SHOULDERS-OF-GIANTS
stable kiln
yea it makes no sence that now only 1 cat gets judged by theme connection alone
civic dock
They were Addiction, Eye Candy and Philosophy (now called Fun Factor, Overal Visuals and Unique Use of Theme, respectively).
stable kiln
well the judges are not the same anymore, but usually they just went with the most pretty game anyways ๐
somber hazel
Sounds like Epic is actually a company and just want to promote good games :3
Only possible by their engine
stable kiln
if u ask me last jam they had best visual and best theme connection mixed up ๐
civic dock
I guess I have to play it to get it because I'm not seeing any theme connection for Angry Angry Dad, which won Unique Use of Theme.
stable kiln
there was a spring in his chair ๐
i would say that game should have gotten best visuals or fun factor
civic dock
Oh! And I see after watching a video.
You "spring into action" constantly because some task will surprise you.
I see why Dig For Spring got the visuals award. Very unique yarn-like style.
somber hazel
That one was okay, also how can you give a huge game like this no fame?
somber hazel
I mean, the dad game
civic dock
It was widely covered on YouTube!
somber hazel
Yeah, you could already call it a real game
civic dock
That team seems to know what YouTube wants.
Their last jam game, High School 101, also got a lot of YouTube coverage.
stable kiln
Im not really liking it that they included work days for the jam
somber hazel
Doing GameJams for a living... everyones dream ;P
I heard they don't much from itch.io though
while youtubers who cover those games...
whatever, back to work :3
civic dock
๐
somber hazel
Just had the idea to give my characters some youtube faces
So I could smash them with 1 strike
:3
civic dock
lol
somber hazel
That has a nice touch
A game developer, our blessing as disguise, to clean the world from mediocre youtubers
Does it make sense?
stable kiln
lol than u should do soundboard like my allar game too ๐
somber hazel
Soundboard?
stable kiln
lol totally killed it when he was playin that ๐
civic dock
I remember, I think! lol
Here's the funny editing mishap I referred to. I feel like I can't mention without sharing it. https://www.dropbox.com/s/l4pbrewccn1i10e/ghostalk-ep8-outtake.mp3?dl=0
Two unrelated tracks that happened to be near each other while editing. ๐
stable kiln
somber hazel
I can hear that in the background while fixing my anims
It's exactly what I needed right now, and I didn't even know
somber hazel
tank you! โค that means... I deserve some sleep ๐ด
civic dock
Yeah! Get some well-deserved rest. ๐
rigid fog
Not bad from ealier today: https://twitter.com/victorburgosG3/status/880841752160219136
remote linden
Nice work! What program are you using?
remote linden
@glass fossil Oh very cool :)
carmine kindle
Ooh, that looks nice
placid olive
hey for the jam does everthing you use need to be done in the week game jam is on?
so like i cant develop a game a month in advance for it right?
carmine kindle
You can use marketplace assets and such, but you have to mention all the things you used from before.
placid olive
ok
small fern
the real idea behind the jam is that you make a game DURING the jam
maiden loom
making the game prior to the jam is cheating
stable kiln
they dont check it tho, so if u want to be my guest ๐
green marsh
Unless you know what theme the jam is going to have before it is announced you're just wasting time
unless you're actually going to do something with the project
stable kiln
ow there is tons of stuff u can copy paste no matter what the theme is
carmine kindle
And some games have very minimal theme connection anyway
stable kiln
and only 1 submission gets judged by theme connection
theme hardly ever gets used in gameplay
silver swan
i think people are more along the lines of wanting to incorporate a certian mechanic they have been working on or thinking about
some people do enter pre made games just for the exposure though like the Resthouse series lol from past jams
stable kiln
these wont run during runtime ๐
I used a plugin so that might also make it harder to native bps
ahh lol it does nativize
less editor overhead ๐
silver swan
it only works in packaged build nativize
stable kiln
but im making an editor, so it applies for me ๐
silver swan
oh i see just make sure you test packaging in 4.16, nativize has some issues with packing, 415 was fine but build seem to fail with it in 4.16
silver swan
cool man interested to see what your game is....dynamic light should work for that
stable kiln
yea, but more expensive ๐
my lvl design kinda suck so i thought id ship it with an editor ๐
takin a lot more time than i thought tho
dusky vessel
I feel really bad because I haven't been able to come up with a project to use with the theme. It looks like I'll have to pass on this one.
stable kiln
my theme connection is abstract to say the least ๐
rigid fog
sweet flame
Just experimenting. http://wlosok.cz/files/gj/blob02.gif
stable kiln
damn after adding transform it all turned into a big mess ๐
rigid fog
@wlosokjan#6766 look like braid? other whatever one of his games was called
def not braid tho
limbo*
balmy ermine
remote linden
Finally getting around to rigging my character... I'd say it's going pretty great so far! :D
https://im3.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-3-6d76857c8f.gif
remote linden
working good now.
Apparently, an obvious looking T-Pose is needed, other wise the meshes are too close together, and they interfere with the weighting :L
remote linden
๐ต ๐ ๐ต ๐ฅ ๐ซ ๐
somber hazel
Progress so slow today :3
Had broken translucency on Forward Shading :3
Everybody else doing fine? โค
carmine kindle
The panic of running out of time hasn't set in yet. But I haven't even started on art, so I'm sure it will. ๐
compact cedar
I think it's OK to share: https://youtu.be/2Sp0Kb3f4zM
compact cedar
Yep.
civic dock
How's everyone jamming today? ๐
compact cedar
@civic dock tough... ๐ผ ๐
civic dock
Heheh.
Me, too. I wasted the first two days figuring out a good idea. First few ideas weren't very good.
Today I'm full speed ahead, though.
somber hazel
God damn it
Always so hyped after animating and making animbps
The moment you hit the import button for the animation and hope the state machine is correct
๐ฎ
rigid fog
@somber hazel ??
Oh yeah
@civic dock It's going, @compact cedar having the hardest time in his life ๐
compact cedar
@rigid fog Actually, never tried that before
rigid fog
tried what?
compact cedar
@rigid fog making animations for ue4
rigid fog
Oh...I know
lol
But it's good that you are all trying somethign new
and learning something in the process
Just need to learn to be faster in game jams
Words please
rigid fog
rigid fog
@somber hazel ๐ฆ
rigid fog
rigid fog
@somber hazel Looks awesome
Now
Make pixelated blood splatter
And maybe heads rolling off
wait, heads are rolling off
somber hazel
Everything is rolling off :3
rigid fog
Aye
balmy ermine
Holy crap you guys deliver such good production values so quickly ๐
remote linden
My 2 main characters are 90% done! Just gottan finalize the rigs, gather some animations, and we're off to the races! :D
@civic dock You were right too! It took me about 1.5 days to make the girl, and about 3 hours to make the guy! Definitely learning a lot, and I'm loving it! :D
civic dock
@remote linden Nice!! ๐
remote linden
๐ ๐
balmy ermine
rigid fog
@balmy ermine I thought that was poop at first
wait
is that poop?
are your spreading poop?
balmy ermine
haha yeah that's a bit hard to make out but its supposed to be fire ๐
balmy ermine
gif compression isnt helping I see
fading rock
Lol Poop don't go up trees.
rigid fog
well
I've seen poop on trees
But, also
it doesn't look like the guy is on fire
when he is standing still
It looks like he's a bag of poop
civic dock
I could tell it was fire. ๐
fading rock
Can't you use assets from content examples for game jams?
fading rock
More like feces-tious...
balmy ermine
haha pun game is strong
rigid fog
@fading rock winner
fading rock
I live with the master
rigid fog
@fading rock and yes you can
@balmy ermine but really, what's that thing he goes into to "catch on fire" ?
looks like jello
fading rock
Yea I think @balmy ermine I would just steal some hot fire from those sweet content examples.
What's that one where they light a sphere on fire and then extinguish it?
balmy ermine
@rigid fog it's a cone with a world position offset material + noise
I can definitely see why you'd think its poop
wanted to have a more volumetric flame effect but ๐
rigid fog
If you can
Do anim trails
Instead of whatever you are doing
with the character flames
That would look much better
civic dock
OK I need help. What's a word/phrase/idiom for someone who gets stronger the less health they have?
balmy ermine
Hmmm, there's an idea!
civic dock
I feel like there's something I'm forgetting and it's bugging me.
rigid fog
@civic dock Berserker
balmy ermine
Berserker ish
civic dock
Besides berserker. XD
rigid fog
what about magical?
civic dock
Maaaagical. โจ