(downside as in, making it harder for me to win the 100MB subcategory)
#game-jam-chat
small fern
slender acorn
Thanks for the link, was wondering when this would get announced and I knew I'd find it here at some point! ๐ cheers!
dusky python
I'll try my best.
somber hazel
@small fern And then you turned something off what other people actually might need and then you realize "f<3k it, if someone wants to go under 100mb, go make it alone" ๐
small fern
yeah, technically, it's just few packaging settings that would make that difference
hmmm
I wonder
I haven't tried to minimize 4.15
somber hazel
But don't understand all the menu fuzz, develop for 1920 monitorand max quality, make only simple buttons and a credit option, that's it, no need to change settings :3
small fern
it doesn't have vehicles in engine core so one could remove even more things
yeah, but still
that takes away time
somber hazel
Making 2 buttons?
small fern
and clearly Epic doesn't care since last winner used a menu template he did beforehand
(although he failed to mention that he did do it before :p)
somber hazel
I don't think he won because of a menu
small fern
yeah
my point being that people should just focus on the game
menu/project settings should not be huge part of it
somber hazel
Epic is smart enough to realize who uses template menus and who doesnt
small fern
but if you need to tweak a lot of things before you get started, that'll be away from the game jam time
point here is not to cheat, point is to make it so openly that it's obvious (that it's premade asset that shouldn't be taken into account when judging the entry)
somber hazel
Everyone who has Options Settings is obviously using a template and if you made this during the Jam, someone should tell you it's wasted time
I think the judges, who ever these guys are, don't care about Settings
The only thing that matters is the Background Image or your Level in the Background of the menu
small fern
yup
which is the reason why such template would be good
as you'd focus on the main thing
:p
somber hazel
It's still 2 buttons, Play and Exit, OpenLevel SetInputMode,ShowMouseCursor False and QuitGame
Pardon
small fern
well, I don't want to debate this here
my only point is that people should focus on the game jam game itself, you seem to agree with that
somber hazel
I don't get the time argument, it's 5 minutes maximum, you still have to adjust buttons and text even with a template
somber hazel
Then I don't get the idea of making a template for a jam
small fern
if you aim for sub 100MB, you would ๐
in megajam, it took me 1.5 days to build the loading system
somber hazel
Why do you need a loading system? ๐
small fern
well, along with the menu and size stripping but still
somber hazel
Well, that's kinda hardcore, I got my size down to 80mb without much fuzz (let's not talk about the Crash Reporter I asked you about <3)
under 100mb is just a bonus and easily reachable now if you build for mobile
small fern
ah, that's true
although not sure if they count mobile games in that category
I guess they technically could
somber hazel
Okay, then let's ask Alex first then and postpone this discussion โค
somber hazel
I mean if mobile games can also be in under 100mb
somber hazel
because if yes, who cares for hardcore stripping on windows โค
small fern
@ruby cradle since you are here
is the sub 100MB thing for android games too?
(lets hope he doesn't run away) ๐
small fern
was that the music game?
maiden loom
Yup
small fern
but yeah, this is also where bigger teams help
you can afford that extra polish here and there
maiden loom
Amongst others, done it more than once
Also not sleeping. Sleeping is wasted Dev time.
small fern
๐
only on jams though
otherwise you spend fixing your awful code a lot more later on
maiden loom
I stayed awake from Friday morning until Sunday evening during Jamchester
small fern
I know I write horrible code if I haven't slept recently
I don't sleep long usually, more like 6-7h max per night but leave that to few hours and results will look like it too
maiden loom
I've probably spent too long in the trenches
Six hours is a normal night of sleep for.me though
somber hazel
"Sleeping is wasted Dev time" We will all miss you when you get depression with 40 and die with 50 :3
maiden loom
In the context of game jams it makes perfect sense!
Friday-Sunday jams include 12-18 hours of sleeping time. That's a hefty percentage of your total time until the deadline
somber hazel
You shouldn't promote this to be the standard
I won't force anyone how healthy someone should live his life, but saying "Sleeping is wasted Dev Time", that's 1 hell of a bold statement
And you are bascially telling people if you wanna make something decent, you have to cut your sleep
maiden loom
Who said anything about 'standard'?
somber hazel
saying "Sleeping is wasted Dev Time" in our public group here
maiden loom
You're projecting
somber hazel
Hm... just making sure people don't cut their sleep now, because it seems wasted โค
maiden loom
All I said is that during some game jams I elected not to sleep, in order to get more done - the rest is projection on your part. I neither endorsed it nor suggested that that was the best way to achieve things. How someone manages their time when up against a tight deadline is their prerogative.
stable kiln
smoke crack and make some game... awww yeaaaa
wise apex
green label being interpreted as official or something?
"officially sleeping wastes dev time"
pine fulcrum
Theres 'can't sleep because my body wants to do the thing' and theres 'can't sleep because if I do I'm fucked'
Should always avoid the latter
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
maiden loom
There's also the fact that getting any decent sleep during on-site game jams is usually pretty difficult anyway.
somber hazel
Sleep under the table and tell everyone to s<3t up ๐
glass fossil
on site definitely changes things, pretty sure if I did one of those I would only sleep as much as the person in the room who sleeps the least
if even one other person is up I'd feel obligated to stay up XD
barren surge
Same. I always end up like a zombie sleeping 1 hour a day. Can't sleep while there are things to do
sharp berry
It makes the morning brutal tho
And one can only take so much coffee before being on the toilet all the time
ruby cradle
@small fern Yeah, you can aim for all 3 special categories even with a GearVR game that's under 100mb
small fern
@ruby cradle question arises, if android game wins, how will you guys stream it? You have a setup for that?
dusky vessel
@small fern I like to imagine he'll just sit on the couch hunched over his phone, silently tapping away and saying "uh huh..." as his guests try to figure out what is happening right now
small fern
:D
glass fossil
if they have a hdmi cable for phones (we have a few in our office) and a device like a hauppauge or a elgato they could stream it
actually not sure about android, ours is for iphones (lightning)
small fern
Pretty sure at least some android phones allow that
ruby cradle
@small fern Yeah, we can show it in a few ways, we'll probably just hard connect it and run it on the monitor
Or I could just do what jfaw says and be like "Wow" and "Yeah, I see what you mean" a few times while staring at my phone
My self awareness levels are higher than people think
arctic widget
There is that screen sharing thing which I think shares over USB called visor or something, my personal phone didn't support it (android jelly bean or something), so can't give any personal experience with it
Also, those av.io things which like every youtuber seems to be using looks pretty sweet ๐ (tho you still need the HDMI thing as valk mentioned)
ashen meadow
could chromecast it up onto a tv
burnt hedge
When I did a hackathon, I was the only one who didn't sleep. I almost slept through the presentation of our code, but it was totally worth it. We went up against some seniors and my group was newbies. We got second place!! โค
patent quarry
Is this also the lfm-channel for the ue gameJam or should I search somewhere else for team members ๐ And if so, where is the best place for the searching ๐
wise apex
this is a fine place, although you might also try the forums
patent quarry
Awesome ๐ Soa, if anyone would be interested in developing an GearVR-Game for the Jam, Iยดd be glad to participate as an allrounder with BP and C++ beginner experience (working regulary for 6 month in UE and currently participating as an AI developer on an indie project). Have an GearVR myself and would love to create a VR title on this Jam ๐ Participated already in 2 GameJams (incl. this years global game jam) and finally would love to actually finish a game ๐ So if anyone would be interested ... just message me on discord ๐ Iยดm completely free during the jam, so Iยดd love to find some members with the same experience grade to build some working game ๐
urghh ... this smiley ammount
bold stratus
@glass fossil are there any events planned for UCSD campus?
glass fossil
I'm not aware of any jams currently planned for that school specifically but of course students there should feel free to join the jam being held online at the end of this month
signal nebula
Hey guys if you need anything acoustic guitar wise happy to make it for you ^^
night pagoda
Hey anyone looking for a programmer for the spring game jam?
dusky vessel
I think I might try to do this solo for the first time
sudden totem
here is some game jams in Finland and there is US scolarship mention in the post http://www.finnishgamejam.com/
coarse hedge
I just decided to see when the next jam is and I'm so glad I didn't miss the spring jam. I can't wait!!!
silver swan
any word on how android games should be uploaded yet ? whether you can put it onto googleplay as an entry or not
quasi parrot
I would simply upload the files ue4 generates
Since Uploading to Google play costs money
feral hare
Might be early for a post but I'd be willing join up with some people for the Spring Game Jam.
robust bough
only $25, not too much.
$25 for LIFE might I add
(for a google play store publishing account)
silver swan
I already have a googleplay acc which i have ue4 games on thats why i asked if that was a valid entry method $25 for life isnt bad compared to apples $100 per year...it could potentially be easier for them to try the game that way rather than installiing apk and obb via usb
dusky python
i will join spring game jam.
indigo harbor
Ooh game dev league (GDL) jam starts tomorrow if anyone wants to warm up https://itch.io/jam/gdl-march-madness-jam
honest wharf
can someone explain the game jam. they say the theme annoucne will be march 30th.But the deadline to submit finished project is April 2nd. So we have just 3 days, or?
wait yeah they say that ok. nvmd
dusky vessel
I'm surprised that there hasn't been more conversation here in the leadup to the big game jam the day after tomorrow
rigid fog
Probably a lot of reasons
after so much hype over the last few months, the prizes are meh at best
Especially given the reasons for holding the official jam quarterly
Most people have already probably formed teams and are prepping themselves for it
Most of the jammers may have forgotten about Epic Jams since they are only held every few months now
That or they just can't do this one for whatever reason
Most dedicated jammers stay hush hush or aren't on this discord chat
Or are on this discord but rarely chat
Also, "Big Game Jam" is misleading
it's just a regular game jam, nothing special, other than it being held less often
And probably a big one, poor marketing on it
maiden loom
There are only 8 teams signed up this time
It's also Hindu new year, so that might count a few people out
Epic are pretty bad for scheduling jams over religious holidays
rigid fog
Yeah, don't get the last Thursday/month change. Probably didn't help matters. But also, not many people actually do pre-registration
safe halo
What's that? Only one more day?
slender acorn
^ that train though
Aiming for another honorable mention, wish me n nyxi luck!
also, gl to everyone else, gonna go sign up now ^_^
zinc gazelle
lol a team is called !Unity
dusky vessel
I'm pretty sure that I don't have to sign up beforehand by giving a team name, right?
loud basalt
just don't have time for a jam ๐ฆ i'll try and make time but eh, not feeling the hype ๐ flip a coin at this point
rigid fog
@loud basalt noooooooooo
I haven't seen you jam in forever
You don't like the unofficial ones ๐ฆ
loud basalt
@rigid fog It's more that I don't have time in general lately, I was burnt out for a bit too
rigid fog
@loud basalt Psshhh
loud basalt
Life gets busy ๐
slender acorn
^ I respect them feels, burnout is kryptonite
patent quarry
Were looking for 3D Artists and Programmer (BP) for the Unreal Spring GameJam ... were going to develop an mobile VR-Game. Currently we`re 2 developers, who would also be able to create 3D Art. If interested ... just send me a message ๐
dusky python
I think that I want to enjoy that soon.
small fern
heh
Best VR Game
Best Android Mobile Game
Best Game Under 100mb```@patent quarry aiming for all three?
patent quarry
je ... @least trying Simple Graphics VR Game for Android should be in all 3 categories ๐
@small fern
small fern
well, good luck ๐
rigid fog
https://www.twitch.tv/unrealengine stream start for Spring Jam
storm blade
uneven basin
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B__iHigKYSakWkhhdFNqbm5uUms I got spare spring platform asset, I know you guys need one
small fern
That's not a half bad theme
rigid fog
@small fern Submit one this jam?
small fern
Maybe, I have an idea for this one
I have only half day tomorrow but rest of the weekend is almost free
rigid fog
Keep it in scope
small fern
No way :D
sudden totem
scope it spring
wise apex
spring out of scope
rigid fog
Spring in to scope
sudden totem
spring scopes the action when spring is into action
civic dock
Good luck and have fun in the jam, folks! ๐
lament oar
I woudl if I wasn't in the last couple of weeks of crunchtime fixing bugs that shouldn't occur ๐ฆ
stable kiln
aaaand im over 100 mb ๐
small fern
...
you didn't have to tell everyone about my plan
oh, nice, houdini license for special category winners too ๐
so.. under 100mb it is
cosmic stag
<- will just make a game that doesnt fit any specual category and does it just for fun
small fern
I checked all the meanings for word spring
I didn't know some of them
but since we can't do NSFW, it doesn't really help here
gritty olive
lol
stable kiln
lol i checked the dictionay and it said something about lumbersexual
i had to click it and find out what it was
teal heron
"best game under 100 mb"
what?
That gives you at best 25MB to work with. The engine and its content is like 75mb packaged.
teal heron
eh the big thing is that are we talking about full extracted footprint or not?
ashen meadow
yeah, under 100mb not zipped
ashen meadow
its not too bad as long as you are starting from scratch, and not adding crazy things
they did it once before for one of the jams
the last mega jam i think
teal heron
lol if you click blank project with scalable 2d and no starter content is 232MB packaged.
ashen meadow
ha ha
yeah you have to go into the preferences and turn a ton of stuff on and off
theres a lot of options under the packaging tab
teal heron
yup if they really want to make that category decent they will either create a better way of packaging smaller footprints or raise the cap
cause I was able to get a 3D Platformer down to 75MB after like 3 hours of work but I can't see that being reasonable in a game jam
you can also go into the package and delete the 40 MB redist exec
if you don't use a pak file the engine is 50mb but if you use a pak file its like 100 mb and the pak file is 60mb even when empty
and if you don't use a pak file your project is like 100 mb
lowest I can get an empty project is 130mb
ashen meadow
think the biggest are compessed cooked packages, and exclude all the prerequisite stuff
that at least gets you going in the right direction
teal heron
yeah I saw those
I am now excluding engine content...
75mb.
so basically "best game that excludes engine content, compresses cooked packages and excludes prerequisites"
ashen meadow
yeah. i think theres other ways to get it lower
teal heron
probably engine level changes
ashen meadow
forget all the settings, just remember those ones being enough to get you started
teal heron
I've done this before
it doesn't get much less than 70 MB
the exe is 40mb
pretty soon you will be setting compiler flags and what not.
in the end it should just be game under 200 mb
200mb to get a 3D game with content is doable. 100MB it's honestly still doable but much less so.
foggy shard
If i make a game about growing leafs on trees and grass and stuff this would be too literal?
glass fossil
dude are you high? @foggy shard
mossy sedge
are any of you working in teams and if so how are you syncing files between each other ?
foggy shard
Git?
mossy sedge
in bp or are you using c++ source ?
its just teh docs talk about using perforce, and its got an awkward check in check out svn thing going on.
atm perforce server is being a dick and not working on my server so looking at options before i go getting burried in it
foggy shard
I use bp and work alone and use git
As far as I know there is some issues then you trying to edit same files so don't do this
dusky vessel
I can feel the fatigue beginning to set in
foggy shard
Isn't usually here a lot more talk about theme?
maiden loom
You can get it all the way down to about 30MB, hehe
sweet flame
Wasn't there a similar theme last year?
silver swan
yeah spring into the future last year
small fern
Yeah, on megajam, I got fully featured blank project down to 25MB
@teal heron ^
I actually expect to get smaller now on 4.15+
you get near 50 with common sense and official docs
silver swan
yeah it should be smaller nowe because now vehicle stuff is a plugin before if you tried to remove wheeled comp stuff via blacklist it crashed
silver swan
lol yeah i still have my blacklist from the megajam when i got project under 100 with quite alot of contentm, so yeah its a big timesaver
teal heron
yeah you could probably strip a lot of the editor and etc but shouldn't a "blank" project start with nothing?
digital fern
engine itself has loads of materials, meshes, and other content you can either delete, or replace all with just a 1 triangle mesh/4x4 texture, etc.
teal heron
yup
digital fern
protip: keep those triangles vertices on grid (i.e. 0.0.0, 0.0.1, 1.0.0) and save a few bits :p
teal heron
in fact you can just check a box and remove engine content from packages
small fern
yes, that option has always been there
but it doesn't remove everything
but.. they seem to have changed something in 4.15
my blacklist doesn't seem to do anything
but file size isn't big either
it does package the blacklisted files still, so all this is odd
I guess one could spend half day on figuring just this one out :p
digital fern
wasnt there a ue4 github branch with a very minimalistic ue4 version?
if not, there should be
small fern
I was going to make one but didn't have time for it
I dunno if there's some other
but if there is, it's probably some ancient engine version
digital fern
that shouldve been a jam-price catagory as well
gamejam game made in 4.0
small fern
well, getting your game under 100Mb isn't an issue anymore it appears :p
I just tried again, with yet another blank project
you can get into little over 50 megs just by adjusting packaging settings and no need to blacklist anything
I mean, just the adjust the project settings
digital fern
<_< did they specifically mentioned it needs to be filesize? else you can just make a game under a line of text saying "100 mb"
small fern
ha
maiden loom
100MB is too easy, they should bring it down to 75MB or even less
then shit gets real creative
at 100MB you can still more or less make anything you want...
digital fern
dusky vessel
@digital fern No, they're all just obsessing over a new category they created for this particular jam.
digital fern
the under 100mb isnt new?
random parcel
That here is also below 100MB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHzzeA4JIr8
it's from the last mega jam
So you can put a lot in and still stay < 100
maiden loom
we could have gotten that way lower too, I mean we have music and sound effects etc, and a reasonable UI
cosmic stag
Maybe a stupid question but is is allowed to use the mannequins in your game if i just change the texture or do i reall have to use a custom model?
digital fern
anything ue4 is allowed to be used in any ue4 game
just give it a hat XD
or weird googly eyes
cosmic stag
I changed the colors does that count? ๐
sudden totem
i dont know why but my ideas always are gigantic
cosmic stag
My game is gonna be weird since i don't have custom models but whatever i am a coder not a designer
Same janisku
i just toned it down for the Jam
sudden totem
as for this ue4jam i get idea what perhaps not suit so well in 3day to get working game
well demogame
sudden totem
i was thinking multiplayer one
cosmic stag
not hard to defeat
yeah mine is co-op
you can play solo but also co-op
(i make it automatically i couldn't help it)
sudden totem
like winter versus summer as (spring into action) like combat game
where elements fight
automatic would be nice to summon AI when it's dont have enough players
foggy shard
I doing puzzle there you grow leafs
cosmic stag
nice
cosmic stag
Let me know when you finished it i would love to try it out
cosmic stag
well my boss will be the default mannequin but it will have certain mechanics that make no sense due to the model
sorry for the late reply @foggy shard
small fern
new one could be newer model from same robot factory or something, and you'd use the old one just to prove it was good model after all
foggy shard
I have a problem here that I want my tree to grow but it doesn't really say spring that much
more like seasons of the year
Should it be just Trees doing it? and you a pollen or something
small fern
that sounds dirty
foggy shard
Or should it be crowds of people and you that jerk tree that puts it's pollen into people with allergies
and that makes your leafs grow
I like that idea and i get to do crowds of people
critic please. Is it offending?
for people with allergy
digital fern
i never seen people getting offended bcause they are allergic to pollen
if there are, they sure as hell need to get some thicker skin hehe
foggy shard
no you play as a tree and you basically attack people with allergy
digital fern
as someone who is allergic to pollen, i'd lol
foggy shard
it's offending because it exclude people with allergies from people without allergies
If I make a face for this tree like evil smile it could probably be less offending
so pollen going to be like grande but pollen
I think I have a vision
well it's no longer a puzzle
trail crane
my game is about goats ๐
random parcel
Is it a simulator :x
trail crane
no
its a goat on a mission to save its kids
plays similar to old school games like spyro or crash bandicoot
random parcel
So a platformer. Sounds fun
random parcel
Nothing yet
I'm thinking about a small game, but haven't had an idea yet. head is still full from todays exam
trail crane
nice fairy model, makes my strange goat cow look super bad haha
cosmic stag
Makes my default mannequin looks really bad ๐
small fern
makes my sliding box look bad
bit late to the game again
just got this engine build to package properly, had some issues with it
cosmic stag
better late than never
teal heron
@trail crane cow?
trail crane
its a goat but ive textured it so quickly it looks a bit like a cow
ill redo it later once basic gameplay is in
yay goat cow!
sudden totem
made a gamejam friday awesome
small fern
holy cow
I mean, goat
oh and blacklists still work, the benefit is just really tiny nowadays
I think I shaved off one megabyte with the list
so hardly worth the effort unless you are really on the limit
cosmic stag
Hopefully my ambitious project works out within 1 weekend
Almost finished all the player logic
random parcel
Yeah well I hope I have some time during the WE to spend add some random stuff to it
oblique garden
Doing concept sketch for a "baddie" baby jotun just wants to have fun in the snow and ice
cosmic stag
Xd
stable kiln
well things just keep comin up, i cant get any free time at all :/
austere glade
how goes the jam everyone?
trail crane
pretty good almost got my mechanics down
glass fossil
it looks like it's trying to reproduce with itself @small fern
rigid fog
To Jam, Or Not To Jam. That is the question.
small fern
@glass fossil yeah, all going according to plan so far ๐
@rigid fog you could give others another day advantage and just decide tomorrow ๐
cosmic stag
http://i.imgur.com/Xi8cTwx.gifv Well this is not how i planned to be able to shoot
cosmic stag
looks nice katie
cosmic stag
And i am here trying to figure out why my GetControlledPawn always returns an is not valid
austere glade
@cosmic stag how are you placing your pawn in the world? dragging it in? does it have auto posses set to spawn and placed?
cosmic stag
one is dragged in
the other is spawned on the spawnpoint
or NetworkPlayerStart to be precise
autoposses to the dragged in player is on player 0
austere glade
its tricky getting all that lined up
cosmic stag
Appareantly they are both seen as spectators ๐
so i had to change the spectator controller
austere glade
is ur game multiplayer? because that just adds to the complexity
austere glade
"welcome to the jungle baby"
cosmic stag
so i do it automatically nowadays haha
not saying they are great but at least they are good learning projects for my final goal ๐
austere glade
i do single player games in game jams now, its so refreshing to be able to not have to worry about all that stuff
cosmic stag
True
but i did this automatically
and i thought "too late to change now"
I need to do AI as well tomorrow
which is the biggest issue for me
austere glade
im using that ai behavior toolkit
cosmic stag
i never did AI
austere glade
its great
austere glade
that right there is why i stopped doing MP games for game jams, you spend your time on all that instead of making something fun
cosmic stag
well
its my first jam
so i am already suprised i made this
even in its buggy form
within a day
austere glade
BUT if you can figure it out - the last mega jam winner in my opinion was the pumpkin game (multiplayer) it crushed
cool, props for taking on something big like that
austere glade
eh, its good experience ๐
cosmic stag
and i dont want a bullet sponge boss ๐
loud basalt
Can't bring myself to participate, sat/sun only time I have any free time and need it to recharge for the week ๐ฆ
I miss jamming though..
austere glade
yea, thats the hardest part, cant go too hard else im useless on monday morning
cosmic stag
Progress ๐
(using placeholder particles, will replace them with more spring like particles :D)
somber hazel
@trail crane Are you working alone? This cow looks beautiful < 3 Can't wait to play it! ๐ฎ
valid atlas
It's a cow and not a goat? As in Billy goat?
twilit salmon
hey guys, is it allowed to use mixamo animations for the game in game jam ?
ashen meadow
you can pretty much use whatever you want, just in your submission post you note what you used that wasnt created during the jam
twilit salmon
alright, thank you verry much ๐
dusky vessel
Here's my progress video so far: https://youtu.be/kBYLA56RHyc
white briar
Anyone know why on iOS, i can play my develop game, but shipping one is not working?
small fern
@white briar if this is related to this gamejam, do note that iOS is not accepted
from official rules Package your project for the Windows or Mac OS X or Android platform and zip up all necessary files for submission.
white briar
great ๐ฆ
small fern
well, it's always been in both rules and forum thread....
With the higher stakes, we're altering the project requirements for this time around. Here's the list of updated requirements:
The game must include custom gameplay that exceeds that found in Epic Gamesโ starter templates.
All art assets in the game must have a material other than the default applied to it.
Must be packaged for Android (for the Best Mobile Game Specialty Category, unfortunately there are limitations with iOS), Windows or Mac OS. No full, unpackaged projects. VR projects are accepted.```i try to export for android, but when i try to open from S4 phone, is not opening ๐ฆ
small fern
then it's not likely that it'll open on their S7 either
white briar
but the game should be published ? or just apk and obbb file ?
white briar
i just got my google develop account blocked last month, i still wait some email to see why , but if i upload to a cloud ?
soryy i mean .apk and .obb
this is the game, have 64 mb 10 levels, i think is ok
small fern
ummmmm, you've misunderstood what game jams are for
you can't use it as platform to get exposure for your EXISTING game
white briar
yes ๐
small fern
that video says Published on Mar 23, 2017
white briar
i have one month while i'm playng with unreal
i'm still learning
one and a half ๐
small fern
that's great and all, but why are you trying to put this into gamejam?
if you read the game jam description, the idea is to make a game DURING the gamejam period (in 3.5 days), not to submit a game you've worked months with
white briar
hmm....so that is GameJam ๐
i feel so stupid, i did'nt read any description, i was think GameJam was to present your Game :))
as an indie ๐ or something
small fern
In Unreal Engine game jam tradition, we'll be kicking this one off and announcing the theme on the livestream on March 30th at 2PM ET and giving participants a bit more than 3 days to create and submit an awesome game built in the engine.
nah, it's not to showcase your existing game ๐
white briar
so i have until tomorow at midnight to create a game , if i want participate
small fern
yes
white briar
i havee too many ideas, i go to drink a coffee, to choose a template from my head ๐
white briar
:))
nice
i need to choose from one template ?
from unreal engine
or i can create my own template
?
trail crane
dunno? what do you mean
cosmic stag
You can do whatever you want
trail crane
mines just a blank
cosmic stag
I used the 3rd person template cause i lost a whole 20 hours due to constant crashes of the editor
white briar
sorry for you ๐ฆ
cosmic stag
(It was my work pc my home pc works fine)
I hope i can get my AI to work properly
Or at least semi properly
white briar
you hope ? ๐ i'm in second month in unreal,and i want to start a great project with AI and also finish in 48 hours to win a gamejam place :))
cosmic stag
I dont wanna win. I just wanna learn and get better while having fun ๐
white briar
i want to win, but if i get a great experience and have some fun also,is perfect
๐
cosmic stag
Gl to you
digital fern
awesome goats are awesome and goatsies
trail crane
winning would be nice but at the same times its an excuse for me to stop working on the same project
going from a realistic horror to cartoon goats is a nice change of pace
stable kiln
any1 knows how to fix this? ๐
the unreal mannequin has it too
any kind of force and my constrains go fubar on me, is that something i could fix in project settings or with substepping or something?
grizzled zenith
How could I april fool my team?
(Nothing source control related, that would be too mean)
trail crane
depends on the game
sometimes we scare one another by adding freaky stuff to the game and not telling anyone
stable kiln
hide all ur bps under reroute nodes
trail crane
I helped someone once and added a random room and inside was a man covered in blood hunched over
freaked everyone out
onyx hare
afternoon all!
brave current
Anyone jamming?
trail crane
๐
stable kiln
im just derping with physics again ๐
solemn pagoda
Nice to see so many other jammers here! ๐
How's everyone doing with their jam projects so far? ^,^
cosmic stag
Not good haha, probably wont be able to finish in time
That moment when you add an actor to the ignore list but it doesnt ignore you
๐ฆ
grizzled zenith
it would be so good if you could edit others editor preferences
where are they stored?
solemn pagoda
Awww. I'm sure you'll pull through ๐
trail crane
It's annoying because I have lots of ideas that kinda have to be shoved in
Normally each mechanic would be introduced slowly but since I only have time for one level
dusky vessel
Got my first release candidate at 98mb โ
cosmic stag
Here i am still trying to figure out why my projectile hits my own character instead of flying
solemn pagoda
Nice jfaw! That's pretty quick. We're about half way through our workload. Just finished the generic enemy AI and now doing the boss AI while the artists make sprite sheets ๐
foggy shard
So it looks like growing leafs is harder to set up then I initially thought
stable kiln
if plants can do it so can you ๐
foggy shard
wait are we getting Ansel support by default using ue4?
or it's just in engine?
oh well it's amazing
stable kiln
not many screenshots this jam, its all super secret ๐
foggy shard
I wish I had something ready to screenshot
stable kiln
yea slow progress here too, Im aiming at : not the worst game this jam ๐
foggy shard
I somehow chill because I think that my mechanic is simple to create
I think soon I going to feel very wrong
probably it was bad idea to start with art asset
stable kiln
totmorrow ill have some more time, i usually do everything in the last day anyways ๐
solemn pagoda
I wish I had something to show also, but the art is all mid-way and all I got to show is a whole bunch of blueprints XD
I'm working with a bunch of placeholder assets until the sprite sheets get finished ๐
foggy shard
I doing something strange
there is probably a better way to do what I am doing now
It's not good feeling to have
solemn pagoda
Google didn't come up with anything useful?
foggy shard
I think growing leafs is pretty unique task to not find anything useful
solemn pagoda
True. Although sometimes some weird stuff comes up out there. But hopefully you find something that works for you ๐
foggy shard
I creating substance designer material that grow leafs with a slider
but mostly I have trouble with a tree itself for now
stable kiln
just finished one of my main mechanics soo just chillin a bit working on my skybox ๐
foggy shard
solemn pagoda
Ohhhh. Pretty.
solemn pagoda
Hey all. We'll be streaming some of our UE4 jam work. Come in and say hi! https://www.twitch.tv/bluewatergames
frail palm
I don't think I'm going to be able to finish my game jam game.
I'm having motivation problems with myself.
dire heart
Seems legit
proven zealot
Alright i said hi
foggy shard
I consider this good enough
dire heart
Hell ye ๐
cosmic stag
looks good
somber hazel
@mobile participants, since Alex will play on an S7, for what Android are you packaging?
Also, of all the 4 files it creates, do you send all 4 of them (.apk, .obb, install and uninstall .bat)?
cosmic stag
That moment you have been working on collisions the whole saturday since they weren't listening to you and you dont have enough time to implement everything you want ๐ฆ
stable kiln
i still need to make some blendspaces, menu , level and some other stuff, a lot wont make it in there ๐
dusky vessel
What's really holding me back personally is my lack of experience with character modeling, rigging, and animating. Also with particle effects.
I wish I were better at making pretty UIs. Maybe I've just been staring at these widgets for too long but I feel like they're ugly and I don't know how to improve them.
cosmic stag
Jfaw i only started using the UE a month ago or something
so everything will be bad ๐
foggy shard
Fuse or make characters myself?
somber hazel
Yay! I can submit my visuals, now just need to focus and finish mechanics :3
character = cube
somber hazel
Substance got some sick brick materials
foggy shard
Billboard humans!
On source?
but best one is on share
or you talking defaults one?
somber hazel
share
are all free
I think you don't even need a Substance product, but no guarantee
PACKAGE COMPLETE
foggy shard
wow never realized that you don't even need substance to use stuff from share. That is cheating somehow
somber hazel
omg, my mobile game
acutally looks
like a game
and the game is running on my toaster phone
I need particles ๐
small fern
@foggy shard why would it be cheating?
You can use share content by substance plugins or convert them into textures with their own free substance player
And share content is mostly done by users anyway
foggy shard
Idk I feel strange about it like I think about share like something that is for substance community
and not having substance and using share materials a bit bad or something
It's not cheating in a way that it's illegal. Just feels wrong to me
so if I think it's wrong I could just share only sbs files
I never thought about it and now I did
in the end I don't care
small fern
@foggy shard it is just you
It's always meant to be free sharing platform
You dont break the terms if you dont own their sw
I own their tools but see nothing wrong about using share without designer/painter
foggy shard
yeah it's just I never realized it was like that
sudden totem
i found that my idea is so big that i cannot think how to do basic one for game jam
moba style but not so moba as more timed things
austere glade
lastttt day
fallow lion
trying to finish this today, ๐
solemn pagoda
Last day everyone! Hang in there! ๐
I finally got my boss AI to actually work. For 3 hours last night I was debugging why it would just sit still and never move XD
It was kinda hilarious since everyone on stream could just watch me struggle as I try to piece together what was going on.
So of course, first thing this morning after a good rest, I had it fixed in 10m.
leaden token
Anyone else dying of hatred for unreal right now?
This game jam is some insane stress
solemn pagoda
Haha. Not hatred here, but it is certainly a crunch ๐
stable kiln
mayB u guys are doin it wrong, im laughing my ass off ๐
stable kiln
its allways hell to get started tho
leaden token
lack of documentation was my failure actually. Wa s pretty in scope until I had to spend 3+ hours debugging a blendshape importing tool.
*importing problem
small fern
unless you have a big team, you'll crunch if you want to finish ๐
somber hazel
@fallow lion Holy, please tell me you have a team of 5 and you are just the artist, that view alone looks sick already ๐ฎ
cosmic stag
I fear my game would not even go through the qualifications of the gamejam xD
i don't even have a menu yet ๐ฆ
somber hazel
Please don't remind me ๐
austere glade
as long as it executes, you are in the running lol
stable kiln
@somber hazel just convince urself its a bunch of marketplace assets , dont ask about it and dont think about it ๐
fallow lion
well ... actually ... @stable kiln i might not make you guys more ๐ฑ
i made asset kit on friday, work on gameplay and character yesterday, and today im building level and need make some menu work ๐ฑ
stable kiln
im just makin a bunch of dumbshit as usual ๐
silver swan
I started with 16 hours left on the jam so it could be the worst android game ever made
solemn pagoda
I may actually see an end in sight XD I just got a mario-style camera working. And my boss AI doesn't seem broken. I just need to slap a level together, get the UI done, and then wait for the artists to finish the sprite sheets ๐
fallow lion
but im not spending time painting assets, all colors is just unreal materials
dire heart
I only have sound and music left, and putting in whatever @pearl roost makes
So i feel good
solemn pagoda
Yay level building!
fallow lion
will stream some of progress
foggy shard
https://streamable.com/dhoqh I am kinda sad that it isn't my mechanic
somber hazel
Can I assume ETC1 for Android will work for the testers S7?
foggy shard
It's more or less allergy simulator
this box dropping not going to be in final version
solemn pagoda
Time to stream crunch time!
cosmic stag
Lol i should not have looked at the submissions that already have been send xD
mine can't even live up to that within a 1000 years
cosmic stag
haha at least i learned stuff
rigid fog
That's the most important part of game jams
cosmic stag
My banner is a bit too big ๐
foggy shard
dusky vessel
Just submitted my thing. This was my first solo jam (fifth overall) and I think what I got out of it was knowing for sure where my weak points are with the engine. On the bright side, I did a good job keeping my scope small enough so that I was able to never feel stressed and just casually make my thing over the weekend. I don't expect that it'll win anything, though. I just wanted to be able to make, polish, "finish", and submit a thing all by myself for once.
cosmic stag
First jam was fun. I enjoyed it a lot
I sorta cheated on the textures tho :p
I just made them white cause snow
grizzled zenith
Finally finished
And I have school in like 7 hours
6.5h of sleep
Fair enough
proven badge
WAAAAAAH finally done
silver swan
love the look of the angry dad game, pictures on the wall behind him are a nice touch as well, very well presented
proven badge
aww ty
solemn pagoda
I'm just sitting here crossing my fingers the artists can get the boss sprite sheet done XD But wow I've learned a ton. Never worked with UMG before so that was fun to learn. And working with Paper2D is quite a lot of fun also ๐
fingers that the artists*
pearl roost
@rigid fog Are you gunna be streaming tonight? ๐
dusky vessel
I did a jam stream for the one last September. If nobody else wants to do the stream once the deadline hits, I can do it.
austere glade
annnnd its time to sleep and go to work tomorrow - game james = RIP weekend
proven zealot
#Game Jam Life @austere glade
austere glade
lol hey bud, get ur server workin?
proven zealot
Oh hey man. Its funny what journey that problem has lead me on, But Im in the middle of fixing it, with this Korean guy.
austere glade
#Game Dev Life @proven zealot
proven zealot
yeah, Hey quick question for you.When you were putting Zombie Town On the Google plus, did you do a lot of preparing social media before hand or no
(Like website, and reddit pages for Zombie Town) Or would you say just upload the game and worry about that later?
austere glade
imagine all the things a smart person who prepares would do, then do the opposite - thats what i did
(i just shipped it and chipped away at it over the years)
proven badge
@austere glade so you got drunk and went to watch power rangers?
proven zealot
XD
austere glade
nite everyone
proven zealot
cya
ashen meadow
submitted
i can beat my game in under 40 seconds or so
good times
cheers to all the other bad games
foggy shard
oh well 40 min isn't enough
rigid fog
I won't be at midnight, I have class in the morning sadly. If no one beats me to it, I'll start tomorrow afternoon though.
ashen meadow
TeamyMcteamface is an automatic download for me
dire heart
The Springify game is pretty darn cool
stable kiln
@ashen meadow u gunna like it i think ๐
i really need to get some sleep soon tho ๐
dusky vessel
Sounds like I'll be doing the jam stream then if that's okay with you guys
I guess I'll start downloading the stuff then
dusky vessel
Sure just a second
ashen meadow
pretty successful jam .. lots of entries. lots of VR entries too.
not many android games
shouldve gone after that category
dire heart
Me and @pearl roost will be watching ๐
pearl roost
yeahhh ^_^
dusky vessel
Yup it's offline, I'll start it in like 10 minutes as I download the stuff. No sense streaming before it's ready. I'll post here when it's up
foggy shard
this is actually first time my game actually builds from the first try
pale eagle
it's a good feeling
I've started building every hour or two. Doesn't take long if you aren't loading up on high quality assets
indigo bobcat
wasnt able to enter this one since i just got out of the hospital for a kidney transplant but good luck to everyone that entered lots of nice looking entrys
pale eagle
yay kidney!
solemn pagoda
PHEW! All submitted.
The victory screen is still bugged. And the boss AI is still derpy. But Mansel In Distress is complete ๐
The internet was being buggy so my upload was late. So I panicked and tried to fill out the forms as fast as possible XD
foggy shard
tired going to sleep now ๐
solemn pagoda
Have a good night! Nice work on your game sZXZ ๐
fallow lion
Im so wasted right now, the crunch was real ๐ค
solemn pagoda
Haha! it was indeed.
The boss sprites couldn't get done on time and we had to use a pre-generated set and get the sprite animations and debug the boss AI in under an hour XD
How your crunch time was more friendly @fallow lion
fallow lion
@solemn pagoda luckily i had twitch chat to make me company, but the crunch was real, ๐ i just build 90% of the level sections in stream today
im so hungry that i lost the appetite
dire heart
We had the softest landing for a gamejam ever. We even got time to put in easter eggs lol.
solemn pagoda
@dire heart Really? Got to put in easter eggs too? I can see how the very blocky layout of the game can make level generation a lot easier though. But the game is quite polished.
dire heart
@solemn pagoda Why thank you! Yeah, it was very in scope for us. But I'm glad with how it turned out.
solemn pagoda
I'm going have to get through all 10 levels that you built tomorrow XD
dire heart
Oh shit, good luck my dude. People are saying it's hard!
fallow lion
tomorrow i will check all te games too
solemn pagoda
Oh yea? That's great then. More play time out of the game ^,^
We were only able to get 1 level for our game, but I like the think the level turned out pretty well and we got a megaman-style boss fight which I am quite proud of.
dire heart
What's ur game called? @solemn pagoda I'll check it out!
solemn pagoda
Mansel In Distress. Page 3 of the submissions.
cosmic stag
note to self, next time don't go for a shooter game.
solemn pagoda
My only regret is I didn't have time to do our little cutscene with our Mansel XD
solemn pagoda
Awww. Well hopefully work goes well for your @cosmic stag What was your entry so I can give it a shot!
cosmic stag
Snowman if i recall correctly
solemn pagoda
Cool! I'll check it out!
cosmic stag
It's nothing much, if anything i learned a lot. And i now know that i have to focus on AI + Collission in terms of what i need to learn
fallow lion
@cosmic stag thats the spirit man, moust ppl never finish a game jam
cosmic stag
Well i actually was doubting if i should send it in ๐
fallow lion
just keep doing, and you will improve over time
cosmic stag
Cause like i cheated the texture part (just made a blank white texture)
fallow lion
dont worrie about it @cosmic stag
cosmic stag
Hey failing and crawling back up is how humans learned to walk right? xD
fallow lion
the best way to learn is by doing it
cosmic stag
yup i agree.
solemn pagoda
Hye Ryada, 6ty4 is streaming your game on twitch XD
fallow lion
just keep doing, and make sure next day is better than previous, dont compare yourself with others, compare your work with your previous work @cosmic stag
fallow lion
๐ tough scores
cosmic stag
well not like i expected much hehe
solemn pagoda
It's ok. He just has a hard on for needing some sort of UI explaination XD
cosmic stag
Haha fair enough
solemn pagoda
You get like 2/5 if you don't have it ๐
cosmic stag
All my time went into figuring out why my collissions don't work properly
fallow lion
๐ im doom not UI explanations
cosmic stag
when walking left you can't shoot since the projectile will hit yourself ๐
hence i just went for hitscan last minute
solemn pagoda
XD Yea, there is all kinds of weird stuff that comes out of the woodwork eh?
Last minute bug for the boss fight, I had to figure out why the tall vine was being spawned well into the ground and not at the same Z co-ordinate as the boss XD
cosmic stag
xD
solemn pagoda
Also was debugging for like 2h on why I was able to still move while attacking. Only to figure out I had a trigger in the level blueprint used to help with my camera control that was forcing the "CanMove" boolean to true even though my attack function wanted it false ๐
cosmic stag
haha
yeah i tried adding ignore to my projectile
but for some reason that way worked fine for the enemies
while not working at all for my own character
solemn pagoda
Lmao. Yea. Something that you can figure out given a little bit of time to debug it. But with a tight deadline it's better to just bypass it and figure something else out eh?
cosmic stag
yup
spend a whole day figuring that out
I should just team up with somebody next time, so i have somebody who can help me whenever i don't get something ๐
solemn pagoda
Haha. Very true. And it helps a lot to be able to split the work load.
cosmic stag
yup
Gonna practice a lot this week so my next jam will be better xD
Just sucks i can't model/texture etc
solemn pagoda
Nice. If you want a hand with AI, I can probably give you a hand ๐
cosmic stag
oooh sweet ๐
Gonna watch the Unreal livestreams about AI during this week
Sad side is i want to learn C++ as well, but all of them are in BP
solemn pagoda
True. But what you can do is code your modules in C++ code and then just call the C++ function in blueprint as a whole module.
That way all the code executes in native while the behavior tree only handles when to trigger them.
cosmic stag
hmmm thats pretty handy to know
solemn pagoda
That's how I worked with engineers a lot at my previous studio.
They gave me basic AI functions like "Move to" and such, and I would use BP logic to just handle triggers and feed appropriate targets.
cosmic stag
@solemn pagoda
any good sources for AI?
as in to learn how to and best practices etc
solemn pagoda
Epic's streams on AI are really good. The streams are long but super detailed.
Personally, I didn't know a single thing about AI in UE4, and from those streams (with a bit of supplimental reading from various sources) I went to making production level AI for a turn-based strategy game. ๐
cosmic stag
Ah sweet then i will watch those this week ๐
Hopefully i can actually make multiple phases next boss that i make haha
solemn pagoda
Boss phases are actually really easy to handle in Behaviour Tree.
You can make a blackboard key that keeps track of your phases and have certain functions enable or disable based on what key you're on.
solemn pagoda
Haha. I look forward to what you'll make on the next jam ๐
cosmic stag
haha thanks ^^
pearl roost
Is @dusky vessel done streaming tonight?
foggy shard
oh well now I know how to make make game better
robust basalt
anyone streaming jam playthroughs today?
fallen pawn
Would love to see that too !
Our submission ๐ : https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?140995-Spring-UE4jam-Submission-Thread!&p=689671&viewfull=1#post689671 (Petal to the metal)
stable kiln
feel free to stream urself, its only 90 submissions ๐
stable kiln
time to play some games than ๐
stable kiln
my mic is total crap, and the cam i have is like 15 years retired in the dust ๐
robust basalt
we clearly need @pine fulcrum back ๐ฆ
small fern
We need #Allar2016 , the one who still streamed playthroughs
stable kiln
i could get a crackjunky off the street and pay him 50$ ๐
grizzled zenith
epic should fund the allars streams ๐
fallen pawn
@grizzled zenith +1
robust basalt
#19 Bounce Sprout is a winner
and also it sucks that there are no streamers
force me to play the games ๐ฆ
cosmic stag
There was somebody who streamed them earlier today
robust basalt
yeah, I checked, no recording
robust basalt
Epic should pay allar to do it imo
4 times a year
pretty sure they can afford it ๐
cosmic stag
I would do it for free tho
altho i am a bad streamer ๐
offtopic: I don't look forward to marathoning a 22 hour training of game ready AI
Did you play all of them already denny?
robust basalt
half way through
but #19 is really high quality
so I am kinda certain it will win
cosmic stag
any numbers you recommend playing so far?
robust basalt
#19 ๐
cosmic stag
So i know which to save for last ๐
solemn pagoda
Bounce Sprout is really good.
I'm now working on a day 1 patch for our game XD
Since I discovered an hour after submitting the game that the generic enemy AI is broken and just charges at you instead of attacking XD
solemn pagoda
Mansel In Distress. A 2D sprite based action platformer with a megaman style boss at the end.
fallen pawn
Oh did you add a video?
solemn pagoda
And my artist make a custom sprite sheet for the main character.
I havn't, no. Maybe I can do that after my little patch XD
solemn pagoda
I'll let you know when the video is up then ๐
fallen pawn
cool !
stable kiln
i do have the day off tomorrow, wonder if i should install obs and give it a go ๐
fallen pawn
tell us if you do it please !
fallow lion
@stable kiln do it!
stable kiln
does it record and upload automatic ?
sweet flame
is someone streaming?
dusky vessel
Hey I'm the douche who streamed the thing yesterday. I can't for the life of me figure out how to activate the Twitch option to archive my videos again. They keep resetting them every year and continue obfuscating the setting all the time for some reason.
As for my recommendations on what is good/bad: I gave a 5/5 to (off the top of my head) Petal to the Metal, Angry Angry Dad, Sprout, Sunflower Warrior, and Spring Armed. I played only everything on the first page of the submission thread, though.
fallen pawn
@dusky vessel Thank you very much !
(Petal to the Metal Programmer here)
@dusky vessel Did you play it with people ?
stable kiln
gunna make some dinner, i think i could stream a few games on request in 30 to 40 min, i got a nasty buzz in my mic tho
this is where allar requests all 90 from start to finish ๐
fallen pawn
@stable kiln If you have someone to play with I would be interested to see you play Petal to the Metal ๐
small fern
I feel that @pine fulcrum gave up on gamejam playthroughs at bad moment, I get that it took him a lot of time when gamejams were a monthly thing but it wouldn't be as bad now if he only did it 4 times a year. He must miss doing it a bit too ๐
fallen pawn
@small fern We clearly miss him !
solemn pagoda
There! The day 1 patch is done XD
stable kiln
@fallen pawn nah its just me here ๐
proven badge
yep #19 was really fun. Great work devs!
solemn pagoda
If anyone tries out Mansel In Distress, let me know what you think! Although I'd recommend playing the day 1 patch file since it plays a lot better XD
fallen pawn
@solemn pagoda Ahah I will try that once I get home !
Where did you put the link of day 1 patch?
solemn pagoda
It's in our submission thread, but let me get you a link.
Our submission entry and the patched version are both in there.
fallen pawn
Oh okay thanks
solemn pagoda
You're welcome! ๐
fallen pawn
@solemn pagoda I like the 2D art of your banner
solemn pagoda
Thank you. Christine also did the main character sprite sheet and all the menus in the game. It really turned out good.
It would have been nice to also do the boss sprite sheet but that time crunch ๐
fallen pawn
Oh okay
solemn pagoda
I made it functional. She made it pretty XD
solemn pagoda
Haha. Nice. Are you an engineer or a designer primarily?
solemn pagoda
Cool. I would have loved to have an engineer/programmer on the team XD What was your entry? I'd love to give it a look.
fallen pawn
@solemn pagoda Cool ๐ It is Petal to the Metal (First page)
solemn pagoda
Oh yea! I saw that on a stream last night. It looked really good! ๐
fallen pawn
Thank you very much !
I would have realy love to see the stream =/
Did the guy played alone?
pearl roost
@proven badge hey! @dire heart and I are really glad you enjoyed our game ๐ thanks for playing!
fallen pawn
@pearl roost Any chance to have a video =D?
rigid fog
Reallife OP
fallen pawn
Cool
rigid fog
So no one streamed all the games correct?
pearl roost
@rigid fog Are you going to be streaming playthroughs later today?
correct, @dusky vessel did get through a good amount though
rigid fog
Yeah, not sure how to do the mobile ones, I guess I'll look that up