I would love to test this with more than 200 people sometime
#game-jam-chat
rigid fog
$40/month for 5 users
rigid fog
200 users = $1400
/month
And it keeps on going up
So, as you can see, now you know why I want to test out the >200 limit
I think once people realize how good and easy Assembla is (after setup)
They might want to grab themselves a 5-user plan or whatever
wise apex
It doesn't update to show me the per-user price.
rigid fog
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
wise apex
It only shows me the 10 user price.
wise apex
I mean
rigid fog
click on that link
rigid fog
lol
Yeah, that would be a nice little deal
Who knows...
I might be able to swing soemthign with them eventually
wise apex
If it's really no limit (except by user), that might be a good deal for super productive people.
wise apex
If I had a studio of freelancers, I might consider it
rigid fog
For Perforce It's 500GB
everything else technically does not have a limit
But Perforce is a hog
So that's really the only limit
wise apex
Oh I see what they did there.
rigid fog
?
wise apex
The continued the sentence but started a bulletpoint list
rigid fog
Ah
wise apex
Unlimted Code
- Git, SVN, Perforce, and Hg repos in a single project
- Code Review
- Continuous Deployment
Should read
- Unlimted Git, SVN, Perforce, and Hg repos in a single project
- Code Review
- Continuous Deployment
^^
rigid fog
haha
Yeah technically, you can have unlimited repos
Which we call Workspaces
which is a perforce term anyway
but these workspaces are online also
rigid fog
SO, workspace on Assembla = Depot
wise apex
Kind of curious they'd use that when they could say almost anything else.
But it's w/e
rigid fog
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
rigid fog
lol
wise apex
Whoever made this site tho
rigid fog
Right..
wise apex
It's like they don't want to be successful at all
rigid fog
Well, good thing they have people looking out for them
But in reality, I didn't know if they were going to go for my idea, but I thought I spun it pretty well
Free advertisement every game jam pretty much
wise apex
If you're going to use the whole "you get a discount with bigger purchases, so technically you can get this rate" bit, you need to take into consideration your other discounts as well.
rigid fog
To devs who WANT/NEED Source Control
rigid fog
?
Not every dev knows about SC though
Or how to implement
Or how important it is in the first place
small fern
yeah, non-pro devs maybe, everyone who does this for work knows those
rigid fog
Do you know how many devs I know personally who has never used SC before?
Or use some inappropriate form of such
I saw inappropriate, but I suppose thumbsticks, copying projects to dropbox, or just another hardrive can count as SC
small fern
I know people who dev for work and don't use version control but they still are aware that they should
rigid fog
Right
small fern
when you go to new programmers, indies and hobbyists, sure, plenty of people who don't know or care about it
they are also the same people who curse here that they lost all their work for reason x ๐
I can understand solo projects to some degree on running without one as long as they do frequent backups but it makes zero sense when you see teams doing it
glass fossil
can't wait until december game jam ๐ฆ just want to keep competing forever
will settle for november game jam results
wise apex
I see no reason why there can't be impromptu jams
rigid fog
damn, no UE4 category
Google loves Unity and not Unreal Engine @ruby cradle ??? Comment? ๐
stable kiln
special prize for unity cuz they wont make top20? ๐
like the special olimpics ๐
special prizes
digital fern
be in special olympics
train for a year to prepare for it
Rain, wind, hail, keep training
competes in special olympics
comes in first
mfw everyone gets medal
stable kiln
i know a fun game for galaxy note 7, it uses a lot of gpu and u have to keep the phone close to ur eye ๐
violet robin
There's always several jams going on at any given time at https://itch.io/jams
stable kiln
yea, itch is cool, played a few really funny games there ๐
stable kiln
It must not be derogatory, offensive, threatening, defamatory, disparaging, libelous or contain any content that is inappropriate, sexual, profane, indecent, tortuous, slanderous, discriminatory in any way
dunno a lot of those words, but im sure they apply to me ๐
velvet echo
that really limits what i can make ๐
stable kiln
isnt google all of the above? ๐
gloomy thunder
^ Defamatory and libelous.
dense token
Lol
dusky python
When is the result of November jam?
digital fern
begin of december
small fern
hmmm
was there are stream yesterday?
I've missed the last streams totally
ah
last stream was on 17th
dusky python
@digital fern thanks
maiden loom
there would have been no stream yesterday because thanksgiving
digital fern
though watching the epic team have a massive feast cam.. would have been funny
digital fern
hehe
maiden loom
although I'd pay to watch the Stainless christmas party
digital fern
Mark going "TIM HAS THE LAST SLICE OF HAM!" epic battle ensues
maiden loom
Stainless Studios, as per tradition, trashes their studio every year at christmas
to the point where the police don't even bother to turn up anymore, though someone nearly died last year
throwing fire extinguishers into the burning remains of desks is not a good idea
maiden loom
one such example:
http://www.carmageddon.com/blog/oh-christ-mas-party
it gets worse every year
digital fern
shit, thats insane
digital fern
and im sitting here being extremely careful with my monitors
compact cedar
glass fossil
rigid fog
^pin that one too please @glass fossil ?
Once again, it's that time next week for #ue4jam! So if you need a Perforce hosted online, I got your back for you and/or your team. The post above explains everything. Regulars will get their own custom workspace to use every month or whenever they want to do the jam.
glass fossil
ashen meadow
pin all the things
when is the results stream from the last one
thursday or next thursday when they start the new one?
rigid fog
This thurs @ashen meadow
I forgot most of the games I played
Turkeyday played with us a bit
ashen meadow
yeah thats why i was curious
seemed to make sense just to push it another week
have a full gamejam stream
judge the old start the new
glass fossil
Yep, Alex confirmed in stream today that this Thursday we get the results
rigid fog
I think it was @Luos and @Celeste game not sure if Cedric was involved, and that ice game by @fpwong
For top contenders
Can't remember my 3rd pick
sinful nacelle
Nah Cedric wasn't in it, was @waxen island, @tardy thicket and @queen thistle with @digital fern and me
glass fossil
yep! that is who I would put money on to win. so much polish
maiden loom
anyone got a link to the submissions thread?
glass fossil
Sure thing @maiden loom
https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?128345-November-ue4jam-Submission-Thread
maiden loom
thanking you!
glass fossil
We're less than a week away from the next jam, everyone should start thinking about reaching out to people about forming teams in the days leading up to the jam.
small fern
tempted to do this one just to mess up with the marvelous designer I just got
goal: make a game with lots of cloth
binary size will be 10GB for game consisting only from alembic animations
sounds good to me
stable kiln
i havent made any music since i had to play war of the world on piano on school, think im gunna give that a shot ๐
some of that electro sound them kids like so much these days
seems like something a retarded 12 year old w/o any skill could do in 5 min, when the time comes ill find out ๐
any1 know a nice free prog to give that a try?
stable kiln
hmm that sounds so crap , i might just go for that
is there a screamtracker 1?
wow thats for DOS
awwsome
small fern
there's this
Impulse Tracker was the best
it's really similar to scream tracker
but that schism tracker works on windows
I think this is most popular free tracker nowadays
there's also https://lmms.io/ for more traditional DAW route
but it'll start to resemble actual musicians work already now
Reaper also has unlimited trial and is not expensive if one decides to buy it ($60)
stable kiln
hmm LMMS looks pretty good, but the 8-bit chiptune seems fun too ๐
small fern
trackers are nice for chiptone kinda thing
LMMS has windows versions too, it was just originally done for linux
could debate about the deadmau5 sound ๐
stable kiln
well that seems easy enough ๐
small fern
if you want to chiptune sound with LMMS, you could try to pick some some of these VSTs for it http://woolyss.com/chipmusic-plugins.php?s=commodore
some are free, some are crappy
I realized my bookmark had that commodore only because I was looking into c64 sound when I found that
stable kiln
when i listen to good music i kinda feel like a musical genious myself, guess we will find out ๐
rigid fog
For Chiptune: beepbox.
stable kiln
yea beepbox looks really fun
small fern
is the whole song data on that url? ๐
rigid fog
yup
stable kiln
@small fern u just made that? ๐
small fern
yeah, sure ๐
that was last link on their twitter :p
oh, you can do note bends too
Drag vertically from an existing note to bend its pitch, or drag vertically from above or below the note to adjust its volume.
rigid fog
You can do a lot ๐
stable kiln
was wonderin, i acttualy got something in my 1st 3 min there ๐
small fern
expect to see more chip tunes on future game jams now
rigid fog
๐
glass fossil
whaaat
this is cool
maybe I'll try making music in next weeks gamejam instead of using sourced assets ๐
pine fulcrum
Sounds better than anything I could ever make
stable kiln
lol just hitting those buttons ๐
ashen meadow
oh man. already looking forward to that.
i second the vote for OpenMPT
thats what i have used for a few jams
that LMMS looks fancy tho
think I will check that out
stable kiln
could load this into lmms too i guess ๐
rigid fog
Beepbox win all
small fern
beep beep boop boop
robust basalt
well, I have FL studio
robust basalt
๐
rigid fog
This is mainly for retro tunes anyway
robust basalt
yeah, I like it a lot though
rigid fog
wtf though
that's some badass stuff @robust basalt
You guys are way better at it
even @glass fossil did something
saw her tweet on here
there*
robust basalt
yeah, I saw it on the twitter feed
glass fossil
nice one @robust basalt
robust basalt
thx ๐
rigid fog
You can spend hours on there
I dont have links for the ones I submitted for my school projects
but they came out way better
glass fossil
next game jam everyone is going to have awesome chip tunes, either that or at least a lot of beeps and boops for some of us ๐
robust basalt
๐
stable kiln
stuff like this makes me wonder how they were able to make music class at school freakin booring ๐
wise apex
Same way my school managed to make everything boring, I guess.
loud basalt
@robust basalt totally empathize, my math teacher made me hate math
small fern
I have had one math teacher that was good at explaining things while studying EE
He died
Got a crappy teacher as replacement
robust basalt
@loud basalt I was lucky with my math teachers
they still failed to make anything really interesting though
rigid fog
Don't forget I have free Perforce workspaces available for the game jam, solo or team, doesn't matter.
small fern
starts a 10-year-jam with jam deal
wise apex
I should be able to participate this time
loud basalt
@robust basalt my math teacher was always angry, yelling at students, etc - he clearly hated his job, my science teacher was even worse but only because he was slow and i mean REALLY SLOW, he never taught anything and was only there because his brother was head of department, class average on exams was 14%, i at least got 50% on math which was the minimum to pass - everyone else failed
robust basalt
thats hard ๐ฆ
stable kiln
lol yesterday i made a bunch of beeps and fed it into semi randomizer.. sometimes its not that bad but its not great either ๐
its missing like structure ๐
sometimes it generates better parts than the original song i stripped it from tho ๐
i kinda doubt i can make it 100% sound good unless i remove 90% of the random ๐
rigid fog
Looking for two artists for this weekend's gamejam.
burnt hedge
Whoa whoa whoa, I love the chiptunes here.
glass fossil
Thursday at the end of the 11am (PST) stream
torpid nimbus
Oh just saw a tweet , nice , will try to participate
stable kiln
well i tried to write my name in beepbox, what a total fail ๐
the W sounded allright tho ๐
bold bane
Do people usually have "fast starts" for game jams? bunch of code set up before-hand to reduce work during the jam itself
generic functionality, anyway
rigid fog
No
That would be essentially cheating @bold bane
However, the line is blurred, since technically, you COULD use old code AND marketplace items
You have to reveal that you did either or though, according to the rules.
bold bane
ah ok, i prefer it that way actually, so i dont feel behind, if im able to participate anyway
@owninator Next for your randomizer, come up with some way to "score" the output and use a machine learning program to create the best song ever.
like this, but with your generator https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qv6UVOQ0F44
small fern
@bold bane wouldn't work :p
because to use neural networks, you'd need to be able to define the error ๐
and if you can figure it's wrong by code already, you wouldn't need machine learning
dusky vessel
**Looking for a Game Jam partner. ** I can be in charge of either the scripting stuff or the artsy stuff. I also have an old laptop we can use as a Perforce server (or we can use that alternative victor posted about). Am willing to either make our own thing or join someone else's thing.
rigid fog
Or use the wonderful and FREE online Perforce Server that is available to all #ue4jam participants ๐
stable kiln
that mario thing could work for music on a big multiple day festival , just needs a sensor to check how many ppl enter the dance floor and when they leave ๐
and any stuff u made allready you can prolly make faster and better now, if that takes too much time its not meant for a jamgame i think
I dont really like making UMg so usually the menu i use for most my jams and just add it to the description
should prolly redo it sometime cuz its a really crappy menu ๐
small fern
you'd need way more iterations to be able to draw a conclusion
basically it would be more like A/B testing that way
stable kiln
yea true
bold bane
I was more thinking that you would penalize/give points, (or error), according to identifying "things every good song has" and "things every bad songs has". Rather than identifying that yourself you might even allow it to make its own conclusions by looking for patterns in a wide array of songs (hope you have a lot of music) and the song's rating or popularity somewhere such as itunes. Either way, allow it to generate many children, and get feedback from many players. Take the best performing children and generate new offspring.
stable kiln
this has allready been done for country songs ๐
bold bane
not surprised ;)
stable kiln
thing is making a hit is not really about good music ๐
wind aspen
@rigid fog are you playtesting the game jam this time around?
tall isle
I believe he is @wind aspen
rigid fog
yup yup sunday @ midnight @wind aspen
I'll probably just roll through them in one shot since I'm off for the month.
wind aspen
awesome
small fern
Heh, I though at first he meant playtesting his own jam entry before submitting
small fern
I know he doesnt ;D
He said on last playthrough he hadnt even finished his own game I think
tall isle
Typical
sharp berry
Good morning
stable kiln
it is a good day to jam ๐
glass fossil
The hype is real! (Stupid work+work related events = missing out on the first 20 hours of the jam)
small fern
@glass fossil that just means you are just in time to do both ue4 jam and LD jam
as LD starts on friday
ruby cradle
@channel If anyone is streaming the December UE4jam games, let me know so I can put you in the list
I cannot summon the channel ๐
small fern
need more powers
actually pretty sure it's been disabled from settings
wonder if they could still allow epic staff and mods to use those
if everyone could ping everyone, things could get crazy around here
sharp berry
Wasn't there a @everyone or something?
small fern
there is but it doesn't do anything
sharp berry
Guess we'll have to wait for @civic dock 's return to get something like that
small fern
like said before, pretty sure that's disabled on purpose
just imagine people at #lounge figuring that out while spamming gifs :p
stable kiln
lol think im finally getting the hang of phat a bit, it doesnt give the you havent saved yet warning when u close it tho
rigid fog
Nick? Who's Nick?
glass fossil
Any Nick probably, I wonder if Darnell is up for the job ๐ฎ
arctic widget
@ruby cradle its @ here in discord, but I think non-nicks dont have the perms ๐
Tho @ here only notifies online people or something, I am yet to grasp the cmd
proven badge
wahhhh, just woke up... Perfect rythim for the jam
rigid fog
@proven badge Do it
proven badge
ofc i'm gonna do it, why do you think I flipped my sleep this much
violet robin
@ruby cradle I just noticed last night (from the Unreal launcher... that was a trip) that I was one of the winning entries in November, so thank you for the kind words on the stream! (And you pronounced Azaia correctly.)
stable kiln
lol im sure he got lucky with that ๐
ruby cradle
Haha congrats @violet robin ๐
glass fossil
we'll know in about an hour
stream starts in 5 minutes, theme is announced at the end
orchid sphinx
tek
stable kiln
hope i can think of some kind of score game, i really wunna try out that leaderboard plugin
glass fossil
Everyone follow along in today's stream for the theme jam a few minutes earlier than it'll get posted in this channel :)
https://www.twitch.tv/unrealengine
dim dove
So what is the theme guys
proven badge
hold your horses
small fern
we'll know soon enough
glass fossil
Theme: Snowball Effect
rigid fog
hmm
glass fossil
The December #UE4Jam has begun! The theme is SNOWBALL EFFECT. Remeber to test your games and package early because this one ends December 12th!
For more information:
https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?130014-December-ue4jam-Dec-8th-12th-THEME-SNOWBALL-EFFECT
stable kiln
hmm gotta think a bit about this1
zinc relic
omg...
i have a great and stupid idea for that one
lets built a game where you play as owl
walking on snowy floor
in winter theme
and you shoot snowballs
and you fight against ai owl
with snowballs
and snowmen as boss
small fern
pretty sure we'll see bunch of snowball fight VR games
that theme pretty much begs for it
glass fossil
snowballs is the obvious answer, but it can also be about something growing in size/strength rapidly ๐
zinc relic
well
small fern
I know ๐
glass fossil
woot, glad to see you participate owl
stable kiln
ill just start making some beeps while i think about what game it should be ๐
small fern
beep beep boop boop
stable kiln
id make a rolling ball game where a lot of stuff gets stuck on it, but you just know there are gunna be a whole bunch of those
and mine will prolly be least good ๐
i could make a game about a character with frozen balls, but that might be a bit too much
something in the middle of that
glass fossil
you know, before I said it might be too much for them to be allowed to stream it, but now with genital jousting being a high selling game
stable kiln
ok, ill leave that option open ๐
orchid sphinx
whats the theme
orchid sphinx
damn northern hemisphere
small fern
beep boop beep boop boop boop boop
stable kiln
wow how did u know ๐
i have a terrible urge to make something say : OEGA BOEGA BOEGA
just dont know what or why
but at least its something
small fern
potentially disastrous
The startup process of a feedback electronic oscillator, when power to the circuit is switched on, is a technical application of the snowball effect. Electronic noise is amplified by the oscillator circuit and returned to its input filtered to contain primarily the selected (desired) frequency, gradually getting stronger in each cycle, until a steady-state oscillation is established, when the circuit parameters satisfy the Barkhausen stability criterion.
so going to use that one
just to see people scream "where is the theme connection"
stable kiln
i have a friend comin over later, he has about the same mindset as me so that wil create a snowball effect on itself ๐
ill have an idea where he makes it more crazy so i can build on that again ๐
hmm 4.13.2 or 4.14.1
grizzled zenith
this time we're gonna be serious, because of SUPERSWAGBOX
that means, more ragdolls and more physics!
carmine kindle
More physics? That's going to be tough to compete with.
small fern
super swag?
stable kiln
@grizzled zenith no way u wil win this time, im gunna get all kanye west on ur ass ๐
artist wize, not sextape wize offc
๐
glass fossil
too late, I already won, they'll be shutting down the thread any moment now
pale eagle
What's a super swag box? Is there even more swag this time???
glass fossil
more swag than you can shake a stick at
stable kiln
and my music is done
sweet flame
man, this theme is tough one
Cant think of anything fun that would not involve rolling ball of snow ๐
violet robin
I'm hoping for at least one katamari damacy clone.
carmine kindle
I think there was one of those in a previous jam a few months ago.
stable kiln
no doubt we will see one of those ๐
small fern
@sweet flame you're not the only one
although rolling ball of snow could be fun to do
sweet flame
๐ yeah it is, but I'm trying to do something that doesn't involve snow at all
sweet flame
tron soundtrack... mhm ๐
stable kiln
ok, i got an idea, its just terrible enough
pine fulcrum
I want to game jam but I'm literally getting an office during the jam
small fern
I'd want beepbox piano roll on my DAW
stable kiln
im goin out to buy a snowball so i can jam all night
lol
snowball effect, they kinda askin for it ๐
small fern
has no idea what that is
stable kiln
you take a snowball and the effect is u party all night
pine fulcrum
Someone had an 8 ball
stable kiln
a snowball is a downer in combo with an upper
glass fossil
you kids today and your fancy drugs, in my day we took bathsalts and we were THANKFUL
velvet echo
just get that pumpkin game and make them into snowmen
hmmm. how about a mix between that game with snowmen instead, and Agar.io.
indigo bobcat
^ that could be fun like the more you kill the bigger you get
rigid fog
shhhhhhhhh with that idea on agar.op
๐ but it's so obvious
I'm sure everyone probably thought of that as the first game idea
small fern
nah, I'm still at rolling snowball stage
velvet echo
just give everyone the task of making the same game, and see who does it the best
had you thought of that idea as your first game idea @rigid fog
rose gust
Hello everyone.
Hrm, I have two ideas, but little time for either lol. As is the case.
One is a Burnout Crash Mode-style game, where you start with a snowball and try to get as big of an avalache as possible, and the other is a Rube Goldberg machine puzzle game.
rose gust
Screw it. I'll start the Burnout-style game after I finish work (and talking to girlfriend, food, etc.) tonight.
ashen meadow
if everyone thinks everyone else is doing the snowball rolling down the mountain, does that mean no one is actually doing it?
because i could use an idea
๐
pale eagle
Snowball's Effects : A game about a dog named snowball trying to to find her belongings.
Or a snowball named Snowball.
proven badge
A culling game where you have to maintain optimal population on earth by causing wars, plagues and executions whilst mantaining public happiness with social media events, celebrity weddings and public holydays
If you don't Population snowballs out of control and everyone starves out
pale eagle
Pretty much every game with resources you can increase the gain of could apply.
ashen meadow
@rigid fog anyone using those perforce servers?
rigid fog
A few
@ashen meadow
Sadly, it didn't make it to the streams the past week, so it didn't get much promotion other than from myself.
And I wasn't going to promote it today, since I was already doing Game Jam + Work + GameJamPlaythroughs
Had enough on my plate ๐
bitter pier
zinc relic
if games and sketches are ok where trump gets shot and hilary parody
well
then everything is absolutly possible XDD lol
i will not do a meme game
stable kiln
I havent been banned yet, so u can go pretty far i guess ๐
than again the CIA might be less forgiving ๐
stable kiln
yea, ur lvl design was on point there ๐
stable kiln
stable kiln
snowballing is a porn thing too btw ๐
zinc relic
skyrim too
stable kiln
lol
small fern
hmmm
got a techy idea I could test
not really feeling the theme, like everyone else, I can only think of rolling snowballs right now :p
grizzled zenith
Yeah I'll or we'll probably make the first thing that comes to mind in terms of the theme, but just make it so good
small fern
that's probably half of the jammers thoughts as well ๐
so, prepare to see some kickass rolling snowballs
oh crap
sweet flame
once again my idea is overly ambitious, but this time I'm sticking with it ๐ And there is no snow, snowballs, snowman, or anything snow related in it ๐
silver swan
freeze also using procedural foliage component on large snow landscape
stable kiln
so, i got music a character a particle system. and even a theme song
basically done
create a sphere in blender make it white thats it ๐
small fern
heh, I couldn't even make a rather simple tessellated material on forward shading
got tons of material errors
oh derp
it was a particle mat
lapis lichen
@small fern "just to see people scream "where is the theme connection"" <-- too late, i've seen your thinking ๐
sweet flame
looks like everybody is hard at work. It's very quiet here
small fern
disneys version of "snowball effect": https://youtu.be/O0kyDKu8K-k?t=56
stable kiln
@small fern what kind of render farm do u have? ๐
small fern
I expect to see at least that level of quality on effect from all jam entries
stable kiln
// activate botnet
small fern
actually, someone made a opencl version of that algo
oh, it was cuda, my bad
GPU still
stable kiln
think ill go for somekind of pacman gameplay, not quite sure in what form
at least that way i can try out that fancy leaderboard plugin
well my test package worked some warnings for materials i dont use, but that minor stuff ๐
ill prolly just migrate the map to a new project in the end
glass fossil
Woot! Finally able to start on the jam. I see Owninator is in the lead as far as screenshots of progression go ๐
stable kiln
yea goin allright, but i thought lets do it all neat and tidy . put stuff where its supposed to be, make game instance and game mode and all that, should just dump it all in my character bp cuz im just gunna make 1 lvl anyways ๐
well actually i dont know that yet, not realy thinking that far ahead ๐
glass fossil
Hello, Check out my game I have been making with UE4 on my own. Please support me on Steam greenlight.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=815057054
stable kiln
a friend of mine did the UV of the main char, its crazy close to a combo of 2UVs from my other jam, great minds think alike ๐
sharp berry
spam powerrrrr
stable kiln
damn couldnt get my shit too work , soo i changed it all up now i found what was broken and i broke everything else tryin to find the problem
note to self : copy paste my stuff and try to fix it than ๐
arctic widget
Only if you mess up the gameinstance settings ๐
Be sure to set it in the gamemode itself or in the world override, if you set it under projects and modes it may mess up and not process the changes ^^
stable kiln
yea tnx, found it on the answerhub ๐
how do i mark it as awwsome answer? it says i have to log in as another user
is that becouse i have 0 karma? ๐ฆ
wise apex
Maybe
stable kiln
well thats weird, cuz i can give stupid answers too question but i cant press the awwsome answer button ๐
ow yea, dominating my own leaderboard
stable kiln
soo, now i just need a gameplay that has score and fits with my music system
ow and i need to make a snowball ๐
glass fossil
Random Tail Flicking for main character (jam)
http://giphy.com/gifs/3o6Zt7nXBC5bgTfmec
sharp berry
Awesome!
rigid fog
Damn, our art team needs to step it up ๐
small fern
are those devils horns??
stable kiln
flappy bits? ๐
glass fossil
cat ears, the bunny unrealbots have been in power too long. it is time for the cat unrealbots to rise up
stable kiln
lol why am i gettin all OCD on my menu when i still have 0 gameplay ๐
sharp berry
ue4 site is not responding?
stable kiln
forum just worked for me ๐
glass fossil
docs are working for sure
small fern
forum works here too
haughty arrow
can gift hub for for working on the same ue4 project at the same time with 1 person for free?
glass fossil
github can be used by one person for a ue4 project for free, yes
you just won't have a private repo, it'll be a public one
haughty arrow
ok i get it u shit
small fern
...
haughty arrow
and I'm sorry for doing that
glass fossil
yeah thats not okay
haughty arrow
i wasn't thinking
because people didn't answer on the first time i said that
@glass fossil
may i ask u a question?
glass fossil
- please refrain from abusing your fellow chatters
- yes, you may ask a question
haughty arrow
can gift hub for for working on the same ue4 project at the same time with 1 person for free?
tulip glen
๐
glass fossil
@haughty arrow
"
github can be used by one person for a ue4 project for free, yes
you just won't have a private repo, it'll be a public one
"
sharp berry
.... this guy...
stable kiln
i dont usually do spoilers, but just as a tention breaker
stable kiln
glass fossil
perforce is free if you host it yourself
haughty arrow
may u help me with that
glass fossil
if you have it hosted by anyone else, you'll have to pay
haughty arrow
just when i give my ip to someone and they try to open it it won't work
do u have to get a domain or something?
glass fossil
Victor was offering free perforce hosting but that was for people that asked before the jam started
@haughty arrow you can just host it on your own machine if you want but you'l need to make sure your ports are open
haughty arrow
like i don't mind hosting it on my pc and leaving that on
small fern
he's probably not asking about this for a jam
remember he's asking this on every channel
sharp berry
But people will just ignore him >.>
haughty arrow
but he tried to connect and it didn't work
glass fossil
unfortunately I can't tech support today, working on the game jam
tulip glen
If you're looking to go the git route though, I would suggest GitLab, they have free 10GB private repos
glass fossil
or visual studio team services, unlimited free private repo's of unlimited size as long as your team is 5 or less
also, deleted your question from all the other channels where someone hadn't already responded
haughty arrow
wait really
glass fossil
yeah, VSTS is probably one of the best free options available that I've found
no file size limits either
small fern
their upload speeds and web interface used to be rather slow though
haven't checked if they've improved since
when I tested it with some few GB big project, I had to try like 3-4 times because it always disconnected in the middle
but of course that wouldn't be as big of an issue if you used it from the beginning and not when you try to push a huge project there at once
glass fossil
ah that might be their drawback then, never tried something bigger than a game jam
small fern
and one could debate how big projects you'd stuff into git in the first place
I don't personally have issues working with big git repos
I know some think git doesn't handle them but it's more about convenience
as big repos are really slow to clone
there's not a huge issue if the team members keep the projects in sync with the repo
and local disk space cost isn't usually any issue
unless you are really making a huge game or try to stuff all the marketplace assets there "just in case"
one thing that does bloat git repo fast is lightmap bakes
radiant meadow
I've added a list of previous game jams, and the winners to the spreadsheet for this months jam if anyone's interested: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cxBOwVu_IrsKTbc6fwWRPWJ7jHPECZ50LwHg8GdXHg4/edit?usp=sharing
small fern
that's cool ๐
would be cool if you could list each teams members there somehow so that we could keep track how many times those people have won already ;D
but I get it would bloat that a bit
and not always easy to identify the team member is the same guy
radiant meadow
yeah, that would be a good stat, but probably for another sheet
small fern
we can now tell if a person has won once or trice from the forum badge but that's about it
stable kiln
put 2 extra button in my menu... somehow everything broke for no reason... try fix it for an hour... still have no idea why 1 back button didnt work while its 2 nodes and other back button does work
just migrated an old menu and set it all back up working in 5 min
now its done, i like my gray buttons ๐
lol and i thought setting up phat for my 40 bones rig was gunna be hard... that was done in 10 min
small fern
"only" :p
dusky python
!gameidea
glass fossil
A role-playing game where you threaten secret societies for reasons you can't explain.
radiant meadow
@rigid fog thanks! the list ended up being shorter than i thought too.
glass fossil
@somber hazel that elf has swagger
ashen meadow
database master
ashen meadow
glass fossil
hope it was a fun party at least then ๐
zinc relic
well
lots of bang bang
and
alcohol
was like 5 hours party o.o
and im destroyed
ember saffron
How is it going is any of my friends gamejamin?
stable kiln
just woke up. gunna check what i did last night in my zombie mode ๐
that UMG thing was so confusing ๐
sweet flame
I have some more anims done, but I just like the excited idle ๐ http://wlosok.cz/files/images/idle.gif
stable kiln
lol loving it ๐
sweet flame
Have another sneakpeak coming ๐
stable kiln
should try keepin it to lil saying sneakpeaks, there is only so much u can make in 3 days, dont wunna spoil it all ๐
sweet flame
Surprisingly the animating is going very well (knock on the wood) ๐ It's simple enough character, that it doesn't take that much time
ember saffron
@sweet flame to je dobre ๐
sweet flame
sneakpeak http://wlosok.cz/files/images/dance.gif
sweet flame
no problem ๐
stable kiln
haha thats awwsome:)
used my greenscreen again ๐
still not really sure about what kind of gameplay i should make so im just going to make an evil snowball ๐
sharp berry
good after noon
arctic widget
Hey
stable kiln
hmm he doesnt really look evil
ill just make him yellow, every1 runs away for yellow snowballs!
sharp berry
Something, somewhere, it's going wrong..
How does a circle end up as 2 lines?
Found it, if a decal is placed from BP, set Y rotation of decal to -90
stable kiln
stable kiln
well most my art is done, now just the gameplay... i have some idea but no total picture yet
stable kiln
lol the better it gets the more motivation to make it more awwsome, talk about snowball effect ๐
totally need to force myself to take a food break now ๐
sharp berry
nearly finished with core gameplay :p
sharp berry
My AI so far ๐
stable kiln
lol can we let them fight echother? ๐
sharp berry
hehe
Woot, my player-npc fighting works :3
always awesome to see things coming alive
stable kiln
damn forgot the time, have to eat again ๐
sharp berry
I ate yestery, its sufficient
stable kiln
hmm my gameplay is prolly not gunna be MLG proof ๐
stable kiln
made a present BP, can attach it to my hand,. givin lots of problems so think ill just fake it all ๐
sharp berry
for some reason, my AI isnt working when I spawn it from BP
MoveToLocationOrActor just isnt working
wtf
carmine kindle
Maybe there's no controller for them?
glass fossil
nav volume is down?
sharp berry
when I drop the npc BP in the level, it works fine
if I spawn it from another BP, it doesnt
but I made a PrintString in the NPC ai, it's printing tho...
carmine kindle
There's a thing somewhere that lets you pick if you get a controller automatically possessing the pawn and it lets you pick if whether it does it when placed in world or when spawned (or both)
glass fossil
But what's in the box?
https://giphy.com/gifs/cheezburger-cat-box-whats-in-the-UhUsPe4ZzIISc
sharp berry
@carmine kindle I've set that too
carmine kindle
Is it maybe stuck in the floor then?
sharp berry
Thought that as well, I made them spawn 5 meter in the air
sharp berry
my pc decided to hang up
stable kiln
damn have to make UMG totally booring ๐
glass fossil
just use diegetic design, never do a user interface again!
The little minions running around looking for new members for the revolution
stable kiln
flappy bits! ๐
glass fossil
thats why watching the twitch streams is essential!
sharp berry
pew pew
stable kiln
hmm my character is like totally defenceless ๐
glass fossil
particle hype!
sharp berry
pretty much
glass fossil
Pick the right people and get a massive snowball effect going
http://giphy.com/gifs/3oriNU73SOQG39lPSo
rigid fog
Crazy question. If someone leaves your team, for whatever reason, and then they state they don't want you to use their assets for the jam. What would you do? Technically all assets created during the jam belongs to the team. This is how it works in the real world as well. Would a simple credit to them suffice? Would you just not use their asset, even if this screws over the rest of the team?
@glass fossil That's coming along pretty nice.
Going to be fun playing it
Not sure what @sharp berry is doing, but that looks interesting as well ๐
glass fossil
@rigid fog that is a hard position to be in. If they already handed over the assets to the rest of the team though an argument might be made for keeping the current version of the assets in the repo as they were given to the team
On the other hand you'd probably still feel conflicted
Gameplay is 99% working now so now time to make a somewhat interesting place for them to run around in
rigid fog
Good luck! Crunch Time!
proven badge
@rigid fog there is no such thing as "it belongs to the team" unless you guys signed a contract. Any work an individual has produced is his interllectual property as belongs to him. If he expressed his wished that it should not be used, you have no right to use it.
otherwise its identical to stealing.. "borrowing" your neighbours car without his approval ๐
rigid fog
I don't agree with that
If you submit something to the repo
You are essentially saying, here use this.
Andthat can be seen as a contract
Also, the car thing, well, if you let your friend borrow the car, and then while he is using it, you get mad at him for whatever reason, then later call the cops and then say you stole the car....that doesn't seem right in anyway
It's like a little kid doing take backs
glass fossil
still, if that is true about about submitting to the repo not being enough to have the team own it without a contract then it might pay for you to be careful
rigid fog
yup
ashen meadow
why you always getting yourself into trouble? ๐
proven badge
@rigid fog Didn't you said he does not want you to use it. In that logic you are stealing a car from a stranger in a street when he explicitly does not allow you to
unfortunally its intelectual property and its creator owns all the rigts to use it / sell it or do wahtever he wants with it unless stated otherwise in written concent
rigid fog
Hmmm, but he wouldn't be a stranger!
He obviously knew me and gave me the keys for a test drive by that logic ๐
But it doesn't matter since we should be abiding by game jam rules anyway
@ashen meadow as for me always getting into trouble. Nah, not this time anyway
Snowball effect OP though
stable kiln
well if a friend helps me paint a wall and comes by later to scrape it off again...
dick move for sure ๐
dont think i would want any of his stuff im my game from that point and i would just submit art w/o code or code w/o art ..
on the megajam i teamed with 2 guys.. an audio guy and a fairly new guy
after 2 days i did most of the characters , but there was no plan or anything, i told the audio guy send me some of the music u made lately so i can listen and say parts i like so we can trow something together
and he said he was super professional and could only make music with a full picture of the game
wouldnt put his name under anything that was super professional. so i just used a soundpack
kinda demotivating... the n00b didnt bring anything too the table other than ideas he couldnt contibute too and i couldnt make in a week either but he wasnt a total dick at least ๐
lol last day i send him a UV of one of my chars and told him to made a face, he grabbed something from comedy central and put it on there so i couldnt use that either ๐
stable kiln
offc i dont know what happened who it was or if it was in any way justified
best speech ever ๐
sharp berry
@rigid fog Im not sure either ๐
stable kiln
I wouldnt use it, I would rather make a paper 2d flipbook game in 3 hours
and i would make it awwsome ๐
pll said i was too n00b to join... I made Jamstory ... their game was horrible
simple and crappy can be really good ๐
carmine kindle
Bah, none of the variables I've made editable and set for specific actors on the map are getting saved
somber hazel
yeah, Im the guy who left the team for personal reasons and I think you exaggerate if you are saying I called the cops :3 It's like you borrowed my car, you could drive around with it, but in the end, its my car, we had a fight and now I want it back, easy as that, there is no contract for a jam, we didnt sign up anything, saying it's contracted by putting it in the repo is ridiculous, that's my point of view
stable kiln
there was no fight or something b4 u said that?
somber hazel
there was, but what happened doesnt matter
stable kiln
ahh ok, cuz i dont see why u would say this if there was no big disagreement
somber hazel
I mean, I can also exaggerate and compare it to a test drive, basically he tested my car and because I let him sit in the car he thinks he owns the car now
stable kiln
mayB save them for another prohject if they are really good and u dont want spoilers
becouse u can still use them for stuff after he used it in a jam
somber hazel
but I dont want him to use them and planned to make another game for the jam
stable kiln
ahh ok, if u wunna go solo and use the assets u made i can kinda understand
still not cool towards him if he allready started integrating it
somber hazel
I can also argue its not cool for me to come up with a game with art assets only now, in a work environment I would s<3k it up, stay in the team and finish the project, but this is not a work environment, its a jam, its supposed to be fun and finding people you enjoy working with and it shouldnt remind you of work, because we all do this for free and fun only, so yeah, that's what I think about jams
stable kiln
well like i said, i dont know if he is allowed to use it, but he shouldnt
hope u both can get back to having fun ๐
this is not the 1st time hours and hours of work are for nothing and prolly wont be the last ๐
this jam I spend like 4 hours on a system that is not gunna work too
lesson learned
grizzled zenith
proven badge
@somber hazel Its your intellectual property, noone has any right to use it without your permission
unless stated otherwise on a written document you signed
and even then, the use of assets in question has to be clearly defined
stable kiln
well u shouldnt need a lawyer for a jam, if u get in a dispute id say drop it all and start from scratch, but thats just me
silver swan
it would just get disqualed if the assets were used and epic notified i imagine
sharp berry
everything went south, opening any bp causes editor to crash
sharp berry
jam
stable kiln
did u try create a new project and migrate ur maps?
sharp berry
I tried first to delete the actor i started to get problems with
then restored the map from the Backup folder
still crashing
now trying other project
other project runs without problems
going to make new project and migrate all now
small fern
did you remove a plugin?
sharp berry
no
stable kiln
any1 used that epic leaderboard plugin many ppl use for their jams?
small fern
usually BP dependencies are not enough to trigger crash and burn
not saying it's not possible though ๐
sharp berry
its wierd
stable kiln
i tried to implement but wouldnt package. If i download the plugin fresh and try package that project it fails too
small fern
just saying only time I've had something like that is if I've had custom c++ code that's been changed/removed (hotreload) or engine version has been upgraded in the middle of the project
@sharp berry you are not on a version control?
if you were, you could roll back to get the actor back
sharp berry
i made a new pawn actor, give it pawn sensing, set it to 360 degrees, I drop it in level, save project, hit play, bam - problems
4.14.1
small fern
you could also migrate the BPs to a new project one by one
you'd really need to migrate them at once, you'd at least see if it's a single bp that breaks it
sharp berry
only map and that pawn actor should give problems then, not every other bp
sharp berry
i cant right click them, engine wants to preload them or something, which already triggers crash
small fern
right click on the root of content explorer and do the fix up redirs thing
just throwing random ideas here ๐
silver swan
that sort of thing has happend twice to me now with 4.14 once in .0 an once after installing the hotbreak
sharp berry
what the hell is going on
sharp berry
PRAISE THE BACKUP FILES
stable kiln
<starts making a new backup ๐
and just removed all those ugly red lines from my package log
sharp berry
There is a folder, Saved\Backup, in the project folder
The problem was in a actor i least suspected to be the problem >.>
sharp berry
Arrow -> set Hidden Ingame to true -> engine crash
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
OH WAIT THE HELL THE CRASHES START AGAIN
grizzled zenith
just realized I need audio too ๐
rigid fog
Moar chiptunes!
safe halo
Where are all these progress pics?
grizzled zenith
rigid fog
Looking good @grizzled zenith !
safe halo
niiice
glass fossil
dawn of the final day, good luck everyone!
small fern
8 PM here ๐
sharp berry
Making test build now
I did a lot less focus on art and more on game this time
Excluding the few particle effects..
rigid fog
Heh, our "game" was done on Friday
other than some tweaks throughout the weekend, all we had to worry about was art
stable kiln
hmm wondering if i should just dump a bunch of sourced materials and particle systems in my map,
rigid fog
Might as well
Unless you have the time to do it all by hand
In the end, they don't really take that many points off for source assets
Well, from what I've seen over the last year anyway
But that's mainly music source
Not every team can have a composer/ sound designer
glass fossil
Traditionally history has shown us that revolutions are often followed by dance parties.
rigid fog
lol
glass fossil
If I have time later I might add a bit of randomization into their dance.
ashen meadow
ugh worried about my game
feel like its going to be one of those games that plays good on my computer and is all fucked up on everyone elses
runs at like 10 different speeds depending on what im doing
stable kiln
lol my team has the next Kanye west , so im not worried about sound ๐
well this made my game look a lot more winterwonderland so ill keep it in
sharp berry
just lost and won my own game to be sure its working ๐
small fern
hopefully with lots of beep and boop
zinc relic
time to play ya games
oh my fucking god
are you kidding me
how can one compete with that
somebody built a freakin age of empires clone
carmine kindle
Yup