#game-jam-chat | Unreal Source | Page 23

small fern Oct 21, 2016, 8:44 PM

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ah 😄

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I don't follow competitive gaming at all, no wonder I didn't know that thing

austere glade Oct 21, 2016, 11:48 PM

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i fell out of the world last night too in pumpkin game

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 12:44 PM

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when do the results from epic come in

small fern Oct 22, 2016, 12:47 PM

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on next weeks stream

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 12:48 PM

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oh right

uneven basin Oct 22, 2016, 1:50 PM

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I'm so depressed about that bug in my submission

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one stupid event that was left to run on both client and server, when it was suppose to run on server only

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here's hoping judges played it on lan mode where the issue wasn't as bad

tepid light Oct 22, 2016, 2:12 PM

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We all have problems we regret not fixing 😃

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 2:29 PM

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indeet

austere glade Oct 22, 2016, 5:57 PM

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every jam i get better, i doubt many do super well on their first unless they are a hardened dev

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so just take notes and don't do it next time

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 5:57 PM

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i always assume that rest of myeam knows what they are doing

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which is death wrong thing to do 😛

austere glade Oct 22, 2016, 5:58 PM

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this was my first solo jam.. i would love to have a regular team that runs like a well oiled machine, you could crank out amazing stuff

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 6:00 PM

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it isnt

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i have only taken parts on team jams 😛

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each year different team

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this was my first ue4 jam however

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and first that only lasted for 1 week

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mostly i have found out that organisation is problem. and level design

austere glade Oct 22, 2016, 6:02 PM

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if you jam with the same team next year you'll probably work better together

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being face to face i think would help too - i'd love to do the train jam

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 6:02 PM

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month long jams are nice in way that you can restart if you see that concept aint working out

austere glade Oct 22, 2016, 6:03 PM

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oh man ive never done a month long, a week long is the longest ive done

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are you talking like GB jam and all that?

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 6:03 PM

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nah awful jam

austere glade Oct 22, 2016, 6:03 PM

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that ludem dare or whatever

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 6:04 PM

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http://www.awfuljams.com/big-awful-2016

austere glade Oct 22, 2016, 6:04 PM

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haha oh ok i thout u were calling gb jam awful lol

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 6:04 PM

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it has the best themes for games

austere glade Oct 22, 2016, 6:05 PM

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"Games for Grandpa" lol

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 6:05 PM

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i enjoyed critical omission as well

austere glade Oct 22, 2016, 6:05 PM

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lolol

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 6:05 PM

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a wizard game where wizard doesnt have mana regen

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so he has to parkour

austere glade Oct 22, 2016, 6:08 PM

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lol, is there a stream of all the games like how allar does for epic jam? sounds like a lot of fun

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 6:09 PM

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yup there is

austere glade Oct 22, 2016, 6:09 PM

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cool ill dig for it

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 6:09 PM

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its called gong show

austere glade Oct 22, 2016, 6:11 PM

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found it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XeKaYpX4W8&list=PLvsRQ9bQ1QDPDQAN2DNRjz5AYpXCbq0FX

YouTube

Awful Jams

Little Awful Jam | Gong Show Block 1 / 5

▶ Play video

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 6:11 PM

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https://youtu.be/xXn2dtPNNJw?t=2772 for example heres the wizard game without magic

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that game was impressive in mechanics

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coder pretty much implemented mirrors edge mechanics

austere glade Oct 22, 2016, 6:13 PM

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oh snap, its the something awful game jam?

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 6:13 PM

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yup

austere glade Oct 22, 2016, 6:13 PM

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oh man I love this even more now

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 6:15 PM

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you know theres one common thing that has always happened in gamejam

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not all of assets make it into the game

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for various reasons

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first jam it was AI coding being unfinished and needing to get cut
second jam we figured out that original idea just didnt work out so we redid the game
and now on this jam ran out of time to do level design and had no source control

austere glade Oct 22, 2016, 6:16 PM

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yea i understand that

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my last jam, i screwed up our game logic so close to the end that i got so stressed out I couldnt figure out hwo to fix it so i lopped a ton of logic out to submit

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so pmuch be ready to ship a day early

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 6:18 PM

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I pretty much need to start forcing level design first aproach if i parcipate in jams. Or i need to learn level design.

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which i think is hard

austere glade Oct 22, 2016, 6:19 PM

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theres that plugin you can buy that can procedurally generate levels

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i mite go for that some day

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 6:19 PM

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like making level isnt hard but making it interesting to explore

austere glade Oct 22, 2016, 6:19 PM

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yea true

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its an art, i dont have skill in it

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 6:19 PM

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nah its more like blocking it out first

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also all game engines have lousy editors for level design :/

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drag and dropping is pretty uneven aproach

austere glade Oct 22, 2016, 6:23 PM

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im thinking maybe using the VR editor would make it more fun/better

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 6:23 PM

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dont have vr 😛

austere glade Oct 22, 2016, 6:23 PM

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same lol

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 6:23 PM

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but i think you might have a point there

austere glade Oct 22, 2016, 6:23 PM

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watching the last stream while zak was making his map made me think that

uneven basin Oct 22, 2016, 7:18 PM

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shame Zak does so little tutorials nowdays

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he has great voice for explaining stuff

austere glade Oct 22, 2016, 7:48 PM

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i know rite, i learned the engine to his tutorials

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 8:12 PM

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i think one week is a bad duration for a jam, it's short enough that i needed to crunch the whole way to get the result i wanted and long enough that doing so could kill a man 😛

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although i really should of just found another member i guess

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the thing i love about jams is that by the end of it i have a potential prototype for a game 😛

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whereas with my own stuff i tend to spend too long making things

tepid light Oct 22, 2016, 8:28 PM

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Yea. I make so much more progress during jams than normal.

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but on the other hand my normal work is way cleaner, more optimized and better designer

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At the end of a jam everything is so ugly its hard to look at, or know what is going on

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and I'm kinda 50 / 50 on the duration

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One week gives more time to work on stuff so you can create bigger projects, but i was super tired the last 2 days.

uneven basin Oct 22, 2016, 8:40 PM

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yea I did multiple +12 hour days on jam

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in row

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 8:41 PM

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i really like the 3 day period for regular jams, but it makes sense to do more for a megajam

tepid light Oct 22, 2016, 8:44 PM

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I don't think I did more than 10h in a single day, and at most I was probably under 8 of real work

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plus maybe 1-2 of looking for music, writing design, chatting here, etc.

glass fossil Oct 22, 2016, 8:52 PM

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luckily mega jam is just once a year

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so its a nice mix throughout

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 8:53 PM

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i think doing 12 hours in day is bit excessive in a jam. but on other hand those prices sure are nice 😄

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+who knows maybe epic might hire you based on a jam 😛

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has that actually ever happened?

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 8:55 PM

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i don't think jams are that high exposure

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also you'd probably be better off just making something with more time if you wanted to get hired 😛

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 8:58 PM

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fair enough

uneven basin Oct 22, 2016, 9:04 PM

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Unreal mega jam finalist is something I would put on CV

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 9:04 PM

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pretty much

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thought by that point you might be better off by just finishing the jam game

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and submitting it to steam

small fern Oct 22, 2016, 9:15 PM

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would be nice if there was like some compensation on time based on team sizes :p like, jam lasted one week but you'd need to subtract one day per each team member :p

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that way one man team would get 5 extra days to five man teams

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and still five man teams would have more man hours

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also, could do unlimited team sizes then ;D

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as max would be 6 with one day effort then

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 9:22 PM

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wouldnt work

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and your overestimating the importance of 5 man team

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with 5 man theres 5 man mess 😛

small fern Oct 22, 2016, 9:23 PM

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yeah, but they'd still get way more man hours :p

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that would mean we'd get smaller and more efficient teams as well

glass fossil Oct 22, 2016, 9:23 PM

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more people = more management required to make it work but also = more potential for well used man hours

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 9:23 PM

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that is indeet true

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and i think its better if rules favored bigger teams as artist alone cant really make a fun challenging game

small fern Oct 22, 2016, 9:24 PM

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there wasn't huge correlation between Allars scores and team sizes on megajam though

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but he still gave best scores to teams that had, 5, 3 and 2 members in them

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 9:25 PM

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why can't artists make a fun and challenging game alone

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 9:25 PM

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because math

glass fossil Oct 22, 2016, 9:25 PM

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2 person team is probably one I'd like to try some time, get an artist to combo with

small fern Oct 22, 2016, 9:25 PM

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pong with great graphics

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not sure it would sell

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 9:25 PM

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it could look fun but it wouldnt feel fun i think

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like world prettiest pong would be good example

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 9:27 PM

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this is my friend's game, i met him from irc during aug 2015 game jam, he can't code and he's doing it solo, everything http://ayablaze.com/blog/

aya blaze devblog

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he also won the game jam before that solo

small fern Oct 22, 2016, 9:27 PM

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bzxo is OP

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yeah

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 9:27 PM

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yep

small fern Oct 22, 2016, 9:27 PM

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his game uses my physics code btw :p

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 9:27 PM

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so you've said, many many times 😉

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jk

small fern Oct 22, 2016, 9:27 PM

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I know 😄

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just saying the codebase he has is like 99.999% his 😄

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 9:28 PM

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i guess marketplace assets on gamejam does make artist driven solo gamejams possible

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 9:28 PM

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huh

small fern Oct 22, 2016, 9:29 PM

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I didn't really understand that sentence

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 9:29 PM

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yeah..

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you know what blueprints are right? 😛

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 9:29 PM

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i actually haventh touched em yet 😛

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 9:29 PM

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i'm an artist myself, i taught myself programming and i did this megajam art/programming on my own, the other guy did sound/music

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but i'm definitely still an "artist"

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 9:30 PM

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im still quite new to unreal4

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haventh had enough time to learn it yet

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 9:30 PM

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oh, well that's fine then, i'm making a point that an artist can make a solid game jam entry solo

small fern Oct 22, 2016, 9:30 PM

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if there's a will

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coding is not for everyone

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 9:30 PM

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as for the math being an issue, you should see bzxo doing it, PUNCH IT UNTIL IT WORKS

small fern Oct 22, 2016, 9:31 PM

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like I deliberately avoid some gamedev areas too even I could learn them myself

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lol

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 9:31 PM

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i shall make every value in my code a float then 😛

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 9:31 PM

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i struggle with math too, but that didn't stop me making a character movement component with arbitrary gravity direction along a spline, and if it gets really hard there's always this @small fern guy to bother

small fern Oct 22, 2016, 9:32 PM

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I sense some sarcasm here :p

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you should see my math grades

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good thing gamedev math is nothing like university math

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 9:32 PM

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well, you probably have a better grasp on linear algebra than i do

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haha

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dude i did my last year of math when i was 15

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that shit was a waste of time, that isn't even math, it's math for the sake of math and has no purpose

small fern Oct 22, 2016, 9:33 PM

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basically they do teach vectors and matrices too on uni but only part that really helps on gamedev is on their intro sections

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 9:33 PM

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here's this arbitrary orientation shit i mentioned: http://i.imgur.com/80bmG0W.gif

small fern Oct 22, 2016, 9:33 PM

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then they just start adding dimensions :p

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 9:33 PM

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still very early in dev

small fern Oct 22, 2016, 9:33 PM

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I never understood practical use for 4+ dimensions on vectors

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 9:34 PM

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isnt that quaternions?

small fern Oct 22, 2016, 9:34 PM

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well, my brains can't handle quats either 😄

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 9:34 PM

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i know when to use them, but know very little about them other than that 😛 gets the job done

small fern Oct 22, 2016, 9:35 PM

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I briefly understood the matrix math needed to do to tranlate vector points, scale things etc with them

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but it's been years

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and never wanted to do that stuff manually

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game engines let people stay dumb, and I'm fine with it

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 9:36 PM

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game dev is a broad concept that covers tons of disciplines, i'd hardly call making it possible to ever make a game staying dumb 😛

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i get your point tho 😄

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but there's no time to learn all that, there's too much

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i'll be old and grey and still doin this shit and still fudging stuff together and hoping it works

small fern Oct 22, 2016, 9:37 PM

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yeah

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it's kinda scary too

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if you want to make games solo

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like real games

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you need to pick the game really carefully

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 9:37 PM

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well you can always ask advices

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 9:37 PM

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thats why this place exists 😛

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 9:37 PM

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and then theres freedom to do whatever you like

small fern Oct 22, 2016, 9:37 PM

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as you'll not have time to make that many games

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unless you just do shovelware

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one game can easily take years

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 9:38 PM

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death to shovelware devs

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or more like valve needs to stop publishing them

small fern Oct 22, 2016, 9:38 PM

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well, unless it's some quick money grab thing, it will definitely take few years

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or just really simple game

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I could see casual games being fast to develop

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 9:39 PM

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not sure about that, unless you're silly enough to do realism on your own

small fern Oct 22, 2016, 9:39 PM

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that's why people hire you

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to do the models

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 9:39 PM

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i'm not going to take jobs doing realistic stuff for indie devs ever again

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they can't pay the time cost

small fern Oct 22, 2016, 9:39 PM

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yeah

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you keep telling that now ;D

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 9:40 PM

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and besides, stylized games just look better and take a hundredth the time to make

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imo anyway for the aesthetic

dire heart Oct 22, 2016, 9:40 PM

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That's why you need to charge them by the hour @loud basalt

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 9:41 PM

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indie devs can't afford it

tepid light Oct 22, 2016, 9:41 PM

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Well, you can never make a 100% realistic looking game. but you can make 100% stlized looking game 😃

dire heart Oct 22, 2016, 9:41 PM

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Then they shouldn't go for high fidelity assets.

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 9:42 PM

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thats what i'm saying

past hull Oct 22, 2016, 9:42 PM

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and thats exactly the thing one of my gamejam team member is doing

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though her art is just stellar

small fern Oct 22, 2016, 9:42 PM

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maybe you just need to do more realistic assets

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to get even faster on it

loud basalt Oct 22, 2016, 9:42 PM

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lol

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i'm fast

torpid nimbus Oct 22, 2016, 11:05 PM

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so you say realism takes lot of time ?

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you can scan stuff

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you got substance

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doesn't get easier than that 😛

small fern Oct 22, 2016, 11:18 PM

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low poly is still faster to do

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but yeah, going for realistic look is not impossible for indies

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what's acceptable quality there is another topic

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we are not yet at stage where things look like real in game anyway

torpid nimbus Oct 23, 2016, 12:09 AM

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games will not look real even if they could

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and they can look convincing , but that would look like crap 😃

tepid light Oct 23, 2016, 2:15 AM

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Some games will.

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Racing for example

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It would be totally possible to have a racing game that is indistinguishable from real life footage

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and that is not a far away future

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most games however shouldn't go for 100% realism

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Any shooter for example.

uneven basin Oct 25, 2016, 2:10 PM

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are the results posted on thursday?

stable kiln Oct 25, 2016, 2:14 PM

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any game got a shot at beating those winners from last megajam on the 100 meg?

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that1 was really good

maiden loom Oct 25, 2016, 2:25 PM

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I thought ours was pretty good at 100 meg, but what was the game this time around?

stable kiln Oct 25, 2016, 2:51 PM

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that scary game

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unsettling

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havent seen nearly half tho 😛

glass fossil Oct 25, 2016, 3:19 PM

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@uneven basin yep, Thursday during the livestream

tepid light Oct 25, 2016, 4:23 PM

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https://github.com/blog/2262-github-s-game-jam-game-off-returns-next-month

GitHub

GitHub's game jam, Game Off, returns next month

The GitHub Game Off, our very own game jam, returns next month! Participants will have the entire month of November to build a game based on a secret theme (to be announced later) and share their c...

brittle lintel Oct 25, 2016, 4:24 PM

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with forks?

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lol that pic looks like tentacles holding forks.. so random

rigid fog Oct 25, 2016, 5:17 PM

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hmm

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I don't see UE4 entries;(

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ah nvm, more reading

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all games welcome, all platforms, OS, devices.

stable kiln Oct 25, 2016, 5:19 PM

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ohh, lets make a game for os2 or c64 😛

small fern Oct 25, 2016, 6:05 PM

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One month :)

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Wonder what kind of games we would get one one month ue4 jam

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People wouldnt work on it as many hours a week as for megajam of course

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Month is a decent time already

tepid light Oct 25, 2016, 6:08 PM

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In one month you could totally ship a game.

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Small one, but still

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I wonder if this is single dev or teams

stable kiln Oct 25, 2016, 6:24 PM

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is there a teamsize limit? 😛

small fern Oct 25, 2016, 8:04 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OnvqXL46_Q

YouTube

Draegast

Settle and Score: Love Encore - Finding Love in all the WRONG P...

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streamers have found ue4 game jams

tepid light Oct 25, 2016, 8:09 PM

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https://www.humblebundle.com/humble-gems-bundle

Humble Bundle

Humble Gems Bundle

Pay what you want for hidden gems and support charity!

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Unbox, that game made from a gamejam submission is in a humble bundle

small fern Oct 25, 2016, 8:10 PM

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game was nothing like that on game jam though 😄

tepid light Oct 25, 2016, 8:23 PM

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Well, ideas evolve

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Things that work in a game jam might not work for a full game.

loud basalt Oct 25, 2016, 11:57 PM

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my ideas devolve, thats the issue my games always have 😄

tepid light Oct 26, 2016, 1:24 PM

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Just got my t-shirt from august game jam... The are no loger personalized 😦

glass fossil Oct 26, 2016, 2:15 PM

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Aww, well you'll still know it was a special one

calm bone Oct 26, 2016, 2:20 PM

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Hi guys

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I'm new here

tepid light Oct 26, 2016, 2:32 PM

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hello

calm bone Oct 26, 2016, 3:30 PM

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I'll be taking part in a game jam soon 😃 So excited for it

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It's going to be a retro game. So do you guys have any ideas on what I should do?

tepid light Oct 26, 2016, 3:37 PM

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Next jam will probably be in Nov 10. And this is when the theme will be announced.

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No point in doing anything before that

maiden loom Oct 26, 2016, 4:27 PM

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so, are we all HYPED for the MEGAJAM RESULTS STREAM tomorrow?

glass fossil Oct 26, 2016, 4:28 PM

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stream hype!

pine fulcrum Oct 26, 2016, 4:49 PM

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@tepid light how so? Doesnt say jam title?

tepid light Oct 26, 2016, 4:49 PM

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No. Just unreal engine game jam

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no theme this time

pine fulcrum Oct 26, 2016, 4:50 PM

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Awww

tepid light Oct 26, 2016, 4:50 PM

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last year they had a theme printed on the back

pine fulcrum Oct 26, 2016, 4:50 PM

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Yeah, my shirt has it

rigid fog Oct 26, 2016, 5:53 PM

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But new Game Jam shirts are getting pimped out according to @ruby cradle @pine fulcrum @tepid light , I was also a bit disappointed in the current GameJam winner design

austere glade Oct 26, 2016, 6:27 PM

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gonna be a good stream, i hope Allar made it there ok

uneven basin Oct 26, 2016, 6:32 PM

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I fear it might be dissapointing

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because I never win anything from raffles

rigid fog Oct 26, 2016, 7:07 PM

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Well, if you just joined the game jam to win a raffle, then your motivations weren't the best @uneven basin

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Had you stated something along the lines of, I might be disappointed in not winning in a certain category, well, then..okay, you tried and failed. Which is much more acceptable.

pine fulcrum Oct 26, 2016, 7:09 PM

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Landed in NC, whoo

rigid fog Oct 26, 2016, 7:09 PM

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I suppose, it really doesn't matter what motivations you had, if you were able to produce a playable game in the end, that is an accomplishment in and of itself.

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@pine fulcrum Welcome back to the East Coast

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I should drive up there tomorrow and Streambomb

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(not sure if that's a word yet, taken out of Photobomb..)

glass fossil Oct 26, 2016, 7:15 PM

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Knowledge increasing each jam has been worth it on its own, but hey, can't help but hope you win a NUC or something as a nice bonus~

austere glade Oct 26, 2016, 7:17 PM

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i REALLY want that NUC

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will be so jelly of winners

tepid light Oct 26, 2016, 7:25 PM

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Oh, yes. I learned so much thanks to the jams. But still. NUC, or that pc..

ruby cradle Oct 26, 2016, 7:41 PM

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So hyped for tomorrow!

pine fulcrum Oct 26, 2016, 7:44 PM

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Forgot how god damn green it is here

glass fossil Oct 26, 2016, 7:45 PM

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Can we just fast forward to tomorrow?

pine fulcrum Oct 26, 2016, 7:48 PM

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Nah man

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Did you see Click

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Dont do that

zinc gazelle Oct 26, 2016, 7:54 PM

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lol

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I can't wait

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JUST DO IT

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DO ITTTTTTTTTTT

proven badge Oct 26, 2016, 9:01 PM

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same. normal jam shirt is generic

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megajam ones are still custom

ruby cradle Oct 26, 2016, 10:51 PM

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Oh my gawd, I just saw all the Love Encore gameplay videos O_O

indigo harbor Oct 26, 2016, 11:06 PM

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that slapping game?

past hull Oct 26, 2016, 11:06 PM

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the vr game with great story elements

indigo harbor Oct 26, 2016, 11:09 PM

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Ah the one I was thinking of is called Love AI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy1m5s2YGj8

YouTube

Tatsunori Ishibashi

第五回UE4ぷちコン「アイドルマネー愛の錬金術師」

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it won the japan game jam earlier this year xD

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 12:23 AM

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I need to go back to Japan

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I just need one year

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Not even, I could do one month.

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All the ramen and gyudons

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Chicken bentos

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oh please

tight nest Oct 27, 2016, 2:59 AM

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http://i.imgur.com/eM18Vv7.gifv

Imgur

Imgur GIF

Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet.

▶ Play video

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 3:42 AM

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that's um crazy, not sure what that has anything to do with gamejams tho @tight nest 😉

loud basalt Oct 27, 2016, 9:05 AM

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7am stream for me ; ;

uneven basin Oct 27, 2016, 9:18 AM

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I think its like 8pm'ish here

austere glade Oct 27, 2016, 10:04 AM

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that car crash makes me so angry

stable kiln Oct 27, 2016, 10:57 AM

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thats how u make an exit 😛

pine fulcrum Oct 27, 2016, 11:08 AM

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7 hours yall

cosmic summit Oct 27, 2016, 11:26 AM

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=O

tepid light Oct 27, 2016, 12:26 PM

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Hype!

pine fulcrum Oct 27, 2016, 1:07 PM

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5 hours

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 1:29 PM

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Allar best time announcer.

tepid light Oct 27, 2016, 1:53 PM

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Hehe.. Allar is sitting in the studio, in front of the camera, looking at a watch and counting down time 😃

pine fulcrum Oct 27, 2016, 2:00 PM

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Not yet... but soon

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Are there any games that got lets played like settle the score love encore

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 2:07 PM

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doesnt that happen in every game jam? especially if the game has fun/crazy ideas

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DymT-oCwXs4 same guy that did settle the score lets play did also kickback letsplay

YouTube

Ctop

The Kickback Gameplay - Revenge of the Ball! - Let's Play The Ki...

▶ Play video

pine fulcrum Oct 27, 2016, 2:10 PM

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@ruby cradle

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I wonder how they found the best ones to play... hmmm

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 2:13 PM

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prob someone told them to try it out. or they watched your stream 😛

glass fossil Oct 27, 2016, 2:16 PM

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Already told my team that I need special allowance to not attend standup today, can't miss even 10 minutes of jam stream

maiden loom Oct 27, 2016, 2:17 PM

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I have to run the Ark server on Thursdays, so I'm relying on people in here to mention me when something interesting happens or fill me in on the deets after the fact

glass fossil Oct 27, 2016, 2:17 PM

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11am standup every day, it's like these guys didn't take Epic stream into account when planning

wind mica Oct 27, 2016, 2:21 PM

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@past hull the kick back is really hillarious 😄 😄

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 2:21 PM

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kickback is great use of theme

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overall i think that is definitive finalist of this jam

wind mica Oct 27, 2016, 2:22 PM

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i just finished watchign the video, and want to watch it again few more times 😄 animations are crazy

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 2:22 PM

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pretty much nailed the theme

wind mica Oct 27, 2016, 2:22 PM

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yeaa, agreed

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 2:24 PM

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ball wants revenge = settle the score
a soccer game where you settle the score by scoring a goal

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multiple settle the score in that game 😄

tepid light Oct 27, 2016, 2:25 PM

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yea... Best theme use by far

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 2:26 PM

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and the implementation was funny

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especially the reveal

zinc gazelle Oct 27, 2016, 2:26 PM

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the site http://www.alphabetagamer.com/ asked us if they could show The Kickback. THey also showed Love Encore, so I guess people found out from there.

Alpha Beta Gamer

Free Video Game Alpha & Beta Tests. The Worlds Biggest Beta Testing Site

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 2:26 PM

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like you see soccer game so you presume that you are controlling player

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but then they reveal that the ball has legs 😄

glass fossil Oct 27, 2016, 2:27 PM

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Yep, it's fun when games play with expectations

austere glade Oct 27, 2016, 3:45 PM

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i never saw Allar stream that kickback game, sounds fun

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i spent SO MUCH TIME watching that stream but i bet i missed a ton

tepid light Oct 27, 2016, 3:56 PM

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just open a spreadsheet and sort by rating

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good games on top, but watching those terrible ones is also fun

tepid light Oct 27, 2016, 4:59 PM

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1 hour

civic dock Oct 27, 2016, 4:59 PM

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MegaJam hype! 🎉

pine fulcrum Oct 27, 2016, 5:14 PM

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Oh snap 45 minutes

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Im sittin in da chair now

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 5:16 PM

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@pine fulcrum so pro

maiden loom Oct 27, 2016, 5:40 PM

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SOMEONE MENTION ME WHEN THEY ANNOUNCE THAT I HAVE WON ALL THE PRIZES

glass fossil Oct 27, 2016, 5:41 PM

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okay but if it is a given do we really need to tell you?

maiden loom Oct 27, 2016, 5:48 PM

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yes

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egos must be stroked

tepid light Oct 27, 2016, 5:53 PM

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lol. I hope to win something, and you want all?

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:00 PM

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well at least they got game running on epic as it was on trailer 😄

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wasn't @maiden loom's game the one which had connectivity issues on every playtest streamers did?

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like, game wouldn't even start

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:09 PM

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Grats @indigo bobcat !!

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You won a NUC 😉

indigo bobcat Oct 27, 2016, 6:10 PM

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thanks.. awesome

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:10 PM

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Don't think anyone else is from discord though

tepid light Oct 27, 2016, 6:10 PM

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no nuc 😦

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:10 PM

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Hmm, I am no illusions on the probabilities of winning one 😉

tepid light Oct 27, 2016, 6:11 PM

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well. the chances aren't that bad

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:11 PM

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?

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Are you serious?

tepid light Oct 27, 2016, 6:11 PM

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how many people are there?

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:11 PM

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There are only 6 NUCs..

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and avg 3 per team

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400+ easily

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

tepid light Oct 27, 2016, 6:12 PM

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6 to 400 isnt that bad in terms of lottery wins 😃

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:12 PM

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📎 megajam_odds.png

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I think I did that on teams initially

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:13 PM

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submissions have nothing to do witht hat

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:13 PM

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it was for individuals?

tepid light Oct 27, 2016, 6:13 PM

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yes

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:13 PM

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yes

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so you need to add up all the people

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:13 PM

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I wonder why I did that 😄

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:13 PM

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Aye

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:13 PM

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I don't think I have the spreadsheet anymore

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there was some reason behind that though

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:13 PM

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It's over, no one cares anymore

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😉

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:13 PM

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we had debate on odds

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:13 PM

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Well, some might

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:13 PM

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yeah

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 6:14 PM

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will there be winner list somewhere?

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:14 PM

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They might post it in MegaJam thread

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 6:14 PM

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because they keep butchering the names 😄

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:14 PM

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I think they did that last year

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:15 PM

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434 people attended if Allars list is correct

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:15 PM

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aye

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:15 PM

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not sure if that counted disqualified entries

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@proven badge congrats on Allegorithmic pick 😃

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:19 PM

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hmm

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they can still win character design right?

tepid light Oct 27, 2016, 6:19 PM

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yea

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:19 PM

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But...if they don't...

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who could win it?

tepid light Oct 27, 2016, 6:19 PM

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but lets be hones. giant ball with legs

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:19 PM

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NO, that's#1

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for MegaJam

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:20 PM

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Allar said "first pick" I think

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so I don't know if it's first or third

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also weird if they started with winner

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as they have different prices

tardy thicket Oct 27, 2016, 6:21 PM

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it;s probably third

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:21 PM

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for #1 and #2 and #3

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that would be my assumption too, they just didn't say it clearly

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usually you start from last

viscid oriole Oct 27, 2016, 6:22 PM

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:)) someone was suspicious about pumpkinHack

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screenshotdump from the creation of it incoming 😉

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pumpkinhack

📎 2016-10-07_10-38-29.png

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📎 2016-10-08_04-01-28.png

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📎 2016-10-08_07-11-29.png

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📎 ScreenShot458.jpg

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📎 ScreenShot459.jpg

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📎 2016-10-07_00-18-08.png

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📎 2016-10-07_00-23-47.png

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📎 2016-10-07_00-26-09.png

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📎 2016-10-10_08-27-50.mp4

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📎 2016-10-10_08-31-33.mp4

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:29 PM

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@viscid oriole I were 😄

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but I saw some artist work on your team and wasn't really suspicious at all anymore 😄

tardy thicket Oct 27, 2016, 6:29 PM

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ya we made it in 7 days 😃

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:29 PM

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just wish game didn't hate me so much

tardy thicket Oct 27, 2016, 6:30 PM

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yaaa you were a magnet for droping off the world

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:30 PM

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yeah

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📎 another_great_spawn.png

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two out of world + one spawn to the nearby hills

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out of 3 games I played

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didn't finish in single game

tardy thicket Oct 27, 2016, 6:31 PM

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ya i haven't had that even once

queen thistle Oct 27, 2016, 6:31 PM

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I had it once

viscid oriole Oct 27, 2016, 6:31 PM

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:)) hah so weird .. but yea... game needs some work

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:31 PM

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awesome concept though

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 6:33 PM

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these are suprising picks

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opus didnt win graphics pick

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:34 PM

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@viscid oriole @tardy thicket congrats 😃

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 6:37 PM

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@viscid oriole very impressive graphics output for 1 week time

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i was more suspicious on enviroment instead of pumpkins characters .P

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really polished look

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gj

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:40 PM

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game doesn't have strong theme connection though 😃

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 6:40 PM

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also lots of smart design choices in gameplay

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:40 PM

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I read the description

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 6:40 PM

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how did you have time for all of this D:

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:41 PM

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but if you just play the game, you don't know the backstory

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and just having backstory to tie your game into theme is super weak

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(for theme connection)

tepid light Oct 27, 2016, 6:41 PM

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yea

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I agree

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adding "plot" is not a theme connection

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:42 PM

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^

dire heart Oct 27, 2016, 6:44 PM

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Is there a prize for best theme connection? If not, there should be

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 6:45 PM

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kickback wins something anyways 😛

loud basalt Oct 27, 2016, 6:45 PM

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it's factored into the finalist score

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:45 PM

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@loud basalt What's your problem kiddo?

loud basalt Oct 27, 2016, 6:45 PM

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stop talking like that man

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:45 PM

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?

loud basalt Oct 27, 2016, 6:45 PM

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and if you actually wanted to talk to can pm not in public

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:45 PM

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I am trying to figure out what's bothering you

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:45 PM

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I agree

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:45 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:45 PM

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don't bring your fights here

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:45 PM

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Just wondering what was eating his panties

dire heart Oct 27, 2016, 6:46 PM

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Substance was choosing their favorites. Obviously it's going to be subjective.

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:46 PM

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you should stop offending him too ;p

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:46 PM

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I haven't

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Yet

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Yeah @dire heart

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I agree

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I think that's how it started anyway.

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:48 PM

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what did Bad Ass Brad win?

loud basalt Oct 27, 2016, 6:48 PM

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best character

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rip me

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:48 PM

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what?

loud basalt Oct 27, 2016, 6:48 PM

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only category i had a chance at 😛

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:48 PM

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😄

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:48 PM

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They can still win top three

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And so can you @loud basalt

loud basalt Oct 27, 2016, 6:48 PM

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i wont win top 3

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:48 PM

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well, I guess they give a lot of value to the backstory and how characters are built

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:48 PM

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Who knows, you never know

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I mean..I liked their charactes in BAB

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:49 PM

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as chars itself aren't that special

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:49 PM

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But..I don't think they should have won Character 😦

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:49 PM

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I mean the art

loud basalt Oct 27, 2016, 6:49 PM

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i liked their characters too, but i don't think they're that good

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the art came together well but the character is generic

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:49 PM

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Eh

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Again

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And don't get offended this time @loud basalt

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All judges are going to be partial

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To what they like

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 6:49 PM

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I'm guessing they picked this as char pick as they wanted to give it some price

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and it didn't fit to others

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doesn't make it right though

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:50 PM

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There really isn't a 100% fool proof way to make any type of competition non-objective

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 6:50 PM

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i think the combined narrative with character design

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:50 PM

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or otherway around

loud basalt Oct 27, 2016, 6:50 PM

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no one thinks anything is unbiased victor and no one's saying that

proven badge Oct 27, 2016, 6:50 PM

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well to be fair they did not specify that its the Visual part of the design that gets the winner

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 6:50 PM

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yup

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:51 PM

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Aye true story

proven badge Oct 27, 2016, 6:51 PM

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so yeah, they can be vague about it and pick what they want in the end

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:51 PM

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Awww

viscid oriole Oct 27, 2016, 6:51 PM

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@past hull hehe.. i actually painted the skysphere 😄

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:51 PM

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There you go @proven badge

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almost won that one too

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 6:51 PM

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fantastic work 😃

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:51 PM

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But I agree with Alex, there were so many great games

tepid light Oct 27, 2016, 6:51 PM

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yea

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 6:51 PM

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i was just suprised by amount of polish in it

viscid oriole Oct 27, 2016, 6:52 PM

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@past hull also the character was quit the headacke cause at one point i was having trobble because of maya 2017 XD so i had to uninstall it and put 2016 and that took like 6 hours due to liscence issues

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:52 PM

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So, there is still Solo Dev

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and under 100MB

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I think Handkor wins Solo Dev, since his isn't under 100MB

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 6:52 PM

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i have one question did you sleep during the week? 😄

proven badge Oct 27, 2016, 6:53 PM

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don't think any of the winners did

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:53 PM

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@viscid oriole what game was yours?

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 6:53 PM

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pumpkin hack

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:53 PM

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Ah

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That was fun

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You guys used Procedural Mesh Slice @viscid oriole ?

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 6:54 PM

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i do hope that you werent insulted by the comments its only speaking the greatness of the game 😛

viscid oriole Oct 27, 2016, 6:54 PM

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@past hull well the level was interesting to make.. i made the layout and we all colaborated on the assets and the placement of them so yeah 😃 but i'm glad it came out good , we were supposed to have some more background buildings and some other stuff but ran out of time

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 6:54 PM

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welp i didnt even notice any building cuts

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usually its pretty obvious where teams run out of time

viscid oriole Oct 27, 2016, 6:55 PM

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oh no don't worry about that @past hull 😄 i was actually glad you brought up the subject so i could show some behind the scenes screenshots 😄

queen thistle Oct 27, 2016, 6:55 PM

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I worked on environment on pumpkin hack, I can show wip shots of assets, We had 3 artists working on environment only thats how we got it decently polished :).

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 6:55 PM

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actually these behind scene pictures are useful 😃

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it shows how you should do stuff efficiently

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like you had concept art for pumpkin placements

viscid oriole Oct 27, 2016, 6:55 PM

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@past hull ya we didn't have time to place any buildings :))

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those were just for reference.. like for density reference

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the spawn points of the pumpkins we made them random so some of them might spawn , some might not , all of them with different emissive masks for different faces ... 😄

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it was a really fun experience and i'm super glad we got to actually finish it XD

proven badge Oct 27, 2016, 6:57 PM

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still hope you win it

viscid oriole Oct 27, 2016, 6:58 PM

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really proud of my teammates ❤

proven badge Oct 27, 2016, 6:58 PM

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like the Real win

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:58 PM

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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It is going to be interesting

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To see who wins

proven badge Oct 27, 2016, 6:58 PM

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well kickback totally wins

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that;s 100%

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:58 PM

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But my picks are The Kickback

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Bad Ass Brad

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Pumpkin Hack

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But...

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I don't know

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 6:58 PM

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what about opus 😛

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:59 PM

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Like I said, they could have picked a VR game...

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 6:59 PM

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opus didnt win graphics prize

proven badge Oct 27, 2016, 6:59 PM

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ye I root for opus too

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:59 PM

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Opus is up there too

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But I don't know who to take out

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Maybe BAB

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 6:59 PM

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i think its weird that opus didnt win graphics cat

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 6:59 PM

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since they won character

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I don't know

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Hmm

proven badge Oct 27, 2016, 7:00 PM

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I really hope they make a VR category, Some vr games totally deserve a win but can't compete with normal games bcz reasons

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:00 PM

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I was going to say it was stylized

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:00 PM

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@past hull they were allerogithmics picks

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:00 PM

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But so was Pirates

proven badge Oct 27, 2016, 7:00 PM

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VR should be there instead of 100mb challenge imo

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 7:00 PM

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i know but still

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:00 PM

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unless you mean char cat that Bad Ass Brad won

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:00 PM

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@proven badge

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I agree

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Next year, VR category

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Ah, didn't know they were under 100mb

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:04 PM

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what did I miss

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just tuned in

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:04 PM

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Not much

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:04 PM

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I don't even know what game this is

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:04 PM

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saw character design

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:04 PM

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Pirates, Shooter, Pumpkin won "Best graphics" awards

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Um, the "shooter" was the one where there were two side converging on each other

viscid oriole Oct 27, 2016, 7:06 PM

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https://a.uguu.se/pMM0kTwBOxDt_2016-10-27_22-05-45.mp4

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there you go guys 😄 that's how messed up our character was XD

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 7:08 PM

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oh damn you dont notice that

viscid oriole Oct 27, 2016, 7:09 PM

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:)) i know XD most complex rig i ever did.. but it was worth it... could have gone with an easyer method but i wanted to see if i can do it

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:11 PM

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do you have further plans for the game?

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too bad it wouldn't make this halloween on steam

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 7:16 PM

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oh dear someone won multiple prizes

viscid oriole Oct 27, 2016, 7:16 PM

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yea... true but yup we are thinking of polishing it and greenlighting it

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also the guys from the stream had a great ideea

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:17 PM

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seasonal thing?

viscid oriole Oct 27, 2016, 7:17 PM

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so we could make different props.. snowmen for christmas, turkeys for thanks giving

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yup

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:17 PM

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yeah

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that would be great

viscid oriole Oct 27, 2016, 7:17 PM

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it could be a cool idea

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 7:17 PM

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you only need to switch graphics every season 😄

viscid oriole Oct 27, 2016, 7:17 PM

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and also you'd have access to all the game modes and all the maps.. multiiple maps for every seazon.. and also bonuses in the specific season

tepid light Oct 27, 2016, 7:17 PM

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oww 😦 I hoped for single dev award...

viscid oriole Oct 27, 2016, 7:17 PM

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this could be great

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well was thinking of letting all the seasons play but you have some bonuses depending on the season

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also one idea was to make multiple skins that you can buy with in game currency that you earn or lose in the actual game 😄 so this would increase the reason for people to play careful

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:18 PM

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Path of Revenge won single dev cat?

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that was surprizing

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:19 PM

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hmmm

loud basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:19 PM

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sur..prizing?

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:19 PM

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Surprising is...

viscid oriole Oct 27, 2016, 7:19 PM

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and by skins i mean when you transform

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:19 PM

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I mean, it was just a bland card game

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imho

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AI was bad

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:19 PM

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it's pretty polished still

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:19 PM

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I guess

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:19 PM

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but wouldn't have guessed it would win

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:22 PM

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I mean, if they were Heartstone gamers...

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Then I would get it

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But, I'm just trying to figure out the rationale

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:22 PM

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well, picks will always be slightly random 😃

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different people like different things

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 7:22 PM

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i think this is good but this is kinda too common of game

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its basically one of minigames in spacestation 13

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:23 PM

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this game has zero depth, has it?

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I didn't play it, but it looks like just card luck

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almost no strategy

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:23 PM

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It was

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 7:23 PM

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but i dunno what kind of competion it faces in under 100 mb

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:23 PM

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AI was eh

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I stopped playing after the 3rd round

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it was just the same every round

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the only difference was that everyone got more hp

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or rather, the cards had more dmg

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Hm

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Top three

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here we go

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:29 PM

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kickback

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:29 PM

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aye

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:29 PM

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atilla the gorilla (for good use of screenshake)

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:29 PM

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defnitely #1

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but who is #2 and #3

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well, I guess they are all "#1"

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:29 PM

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yeah

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:30 PM

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kickback theme

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:30 PM

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I don't think they are in any order

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:30 PM

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But anyway

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:30 PM

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atilla gameplay

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:30 PM

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same prizes

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and epic doesn't rank the winners

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:30 PM

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kickback, for theme?

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hmm

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gameplay for pumpkin hack?

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 7:30 PM

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gameplay pumkin hack i think

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:30 PM

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what was the last category?

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:30 PM

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yeah

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 7:30 PM

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opus for graphics i think

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:30 PM

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maybe

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or visuals

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:30 PM

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oh graphics?

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hmm

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 7:30 PM

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visuals

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:30 PM

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maybe opus...

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:30 PM

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opus was actually ugly

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:30 PM

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they should be for full package

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:30 PM

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but...

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:30 PM

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the color theme was off

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:30 PM

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not for one thing

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:30 PM

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I don't know

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Could be pirates...

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:31 PM

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pumpkin game best visuals, by far I think

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:31 PM

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pirates was too buggy to win IMO

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:31 PM

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I mean, I don't know what they are thinking anymore after that solo pick

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visuals

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if it's visuals, gameplay/bugs don't matter

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:31 PM

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it should be the full package

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bugs make the game less fun

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:32 PM

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We'll find out soon

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:32 PM

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yeah

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they haven't mentioned kickback at all so far

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so it's pretty sure winner

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otherwise they would have said something about it on other honorable mentions

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:32 PM

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okay

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So Pumpkin Hack for gamplay, we good

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:33 PM

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huh

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they separate them?

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All entries will be judged for their aesthetic, unique use of the theme and gameplay.

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that implies all those need to be good

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:33 PM

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I guess they separated it

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which is weird

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but they did that last year too

tepid light Oct 27, 2016, 7:36 PM

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I think they always separate them

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just never tell us

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:36 PM

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NOOOOOOOOO

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https://gyazo.com/080544325c52445eb64872e7555ba0ba

Gyazo

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:40 PM

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game had respawn button? 😄

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I just sat down for the rest of the matches

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 7:42 PM

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@viscid oriole i must say it impressive that you got the mix of walls and open spaces correct in level design

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:44 PM

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i JUST EXITED

loud basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:44 PM

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they seem separate

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:44 PM

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and came back

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OPUS!

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cool

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:44 PM

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for visuals?

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:44 PM

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Yeah

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:45 PM

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It wasn't a bad game, but visuals were kinda off

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imo

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the textures were cool

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:45 PM

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ok

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:45 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:45 PM

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but

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:45 PM

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At least it wasn't some troll pick

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:45 PM

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so winners are pumpkin hack, opus and kickback

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:45 PM

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Yeah

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But..

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If The Kickback doesn't win...

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:46 PM

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well, this was the top three on Allars list too

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well, it has to win

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:46 PM

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Well

viscid oriole Oct 27, 2016, 7:46 PM

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@past hull thank you 😃 ya i played a looot of games and i always pay attention to the map designs and game mechanics and everythign .. i love games 😄

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:46 PM

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it doesn't "Have to win"

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But of course it was definitely a #1 pick by anyone's account

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:47 PM

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well, considering they haven't even mentioned the whole game so far

zinc gazelle Oct 27, 2016, 7:47 PM

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did they mention love encore at all?

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:47 PM

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it would be really surprizing if it wasn't the last winner

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:47 PM

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no @zinc gazelle

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if they did, it was very brief

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they did on Twitter though

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 7:47 PM

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@viscid oriole same here thats why i apreciate when ppl get map design right

uneven basin Oct 27, 2016, 7:47 PM

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so winners this year were: GarrysMod - prophunt, Guns of Icarus and Hotline miami

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:48 PM

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?

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prophunt?

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what's that

uneven basin Oct 27, 2016, 7:48 PM

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youtube it

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:48 PM

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basically pumpkin hack

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:48 PM

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and hotline miami won character design

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not top 3

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 7:48 PM

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also last winner is kickback

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so badass brad wont win 😛

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:48 PM

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guns of icarus won allegortihmic

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:48 PM

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or doodad hunt in sc2

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:48 PM

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Man

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 7:48 PM

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i already know that kickback won the theme connection

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:48 PM

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We expect it to win

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Let's hope

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:49 PM

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it canno not win

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lol

uneven basin Oct 27, 2016, 7:49 PM

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which means original ideas do not get points as much as they should

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-> defeating the point of game jam

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 7:49 PM

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err kickback has fantastic theme connection

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pumpkin hack for most fun game pretty much

uneven basin Oct 27, 2016, 7:50 PM

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but it's not original concept

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:50 PM

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?

uneven basin Oct 27, 2016, 7:50 PM

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not saying it can't be fun

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:50 PM

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Did you create an original game?

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All games are referenced by others in some way or another

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 7:50 PM

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its basically implementation and graphics that carried pumpkin hack

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:51 PM

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pumkin hack is just fun, even better than prop hunt actually

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 7:51 PM

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also guy is right theres prophunt and that box game that has similar concept to pumpkin hack

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:51 PM

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I never played prophunt

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But, it doesn't matter too much

uneven basin Oct 27, 2016, 7:51 PM

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but you can watch videos from it on youtube, very very popular streamer game

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:51 PM

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It wasn't an obvious copy of a game

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 7:52 PM

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indeet the bigger point is that they got things right in creating that game

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:52 PM

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the hotline miami game was though

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:52 PM

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Watching it now tho

slim light Oct 27, 2016, 7:52 PM

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Not sure originality was ever cited as a winning critera?

uneven basin Oct 27, 2016, 7:53 PM

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but it's kinda idea that new ideas get tested in game jams

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:53 PM

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It wasn't @slim light

uneven basin Oct 27, 2016, 7:53 PM

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something you wouldn't do commercially

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:53 PM

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haters gonna hate

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But

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 7:53 PM

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http://store.steampowered.com/app/527340/ like this is pretty similar to pumpkin hack

What The Box?

What the box is an Online Multiplayer shooter in which players control living boxes hiding amongst regular boxes while trying to destroy each other. Run around with your trusty box cutter in hand or stand still and wait for the perfect moment to strike!

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:53 PM

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idea is that you make a game in limited amount of time

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:53 PM

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If you don't think even major AAA studios get inspried by other games...

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you are wrong

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Look at ALL BLIZZARD games

uneven basin Oct 27, 2016, 7:53 PM

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again, not the point of game jam

slim light Oct 27, 2016, 7:53 PM

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I mean it's the spirit of game jams to be creative but when prizes are involved it's a differnt trhing I guess

uneven basin Oct 27, 2016, 7:53 PM

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game jam

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:53 PM

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it's more of a personal test that you can pull it off more than anything I think

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 7:54 PM

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the thing here is that the implementation of pumpkin hack was great

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:54 PM

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like how much game you can make in few days

uneven basin Oct 27, 2016, 7:54 PM

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you get one extra day to work if you dont have to design gameplay

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:54 PM

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Of course it would be awesome for originality, but it wasn't a criteria or category

uneven basin Oct 27, 2016, 7:54 PM

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it kinda should be for GAME JAM

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:55 PM

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if it would be easy to make a new game mechanic and get it to play in game jams time frame, we'd have lots of original games

slim light Oct 27, 2016, 7:55 PM

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yeah but you can say game jams should have no prizes, or game jams should all be open source or anything

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:55 PM

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most of original ideas just aren't fun to play

slim light Oct 27, 2016, 7:55 PM

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truth is there'[s not set rule this is how this one is run

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and that's fine

uneven basin Oct 27, 2016, 7:56 PM

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@small fern exactly, but you dont seem to get points for doing so

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:56 PM

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you get if the game is good

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:56 PM

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Sometimes...original games...just suck

uneven basin Oct 27, 2016, 7:56 PM

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they do

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:56 PM

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I mean...what's the point of giving it a grade if it sucks

uneven basin Oct 27, 2016, 7:56 PM

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then the idea doesn't work, better luck next jam

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I'm pretty sure most devs have notebook full of ideas

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:57 PM

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Again...if you can make a 100 % original game, for a game jam..not inspired by ANY other game at all, essentially creating your own genre... let me know

uneven basin Oct 27, 2016, 7:57 PM

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pick one

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:57 PM

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it's not about creating somewhting entirely new

uneven basin Oct 27, 2016, 7:57 PM

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creating something that isn't on steam front page

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:57 PM

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taking stuff from other games, adding stuff and making it your own is one thing

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but blunt copies just suck

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:57 PM

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But that's not originality

wise apex Oct 27, 2016, 7:58 PM

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Actually, if you have to be 100% original, better not start with a game engine

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:58 PM

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I mean, I guess, let's define what you all mean by "originality" then

tepid light Oct 27, 2016, 7:58 PM

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ok... So, who is looking for a team for the november game jam? 😃

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:58 PM

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@wise apex I agree

uneven basin Oct 27, 2016, 7:58 PM

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by not being a copy of existing commercial product?

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:58 PM

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@uneven basin My Summer Car was on steams front page and it's definitely not something like any other game out there ;p

slim light Oct 27, 2016, 7:58 PM

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It's like Jalopy

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😛

wise apex Oct 27, 2016, 7:58 PM

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I understand where you're coming from, but you have to draw the line.

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:59 PM

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pretty sure Jalopy ripped off MSC

wise apex Oct 27, 2016, 7:59 PM

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It has to be objective, not subjective.

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 7:59 PM

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but if you play both, they are nothing alike

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:59 PM

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wtf is jalopy and msc

wise apex Oct 27, 2016, 7:59 PM

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What determines the degree of originality.

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:59 PM

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damn

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that has high reviews

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 7:59 PM

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@rigid fog my teams game game had original concept of score being thing you needet to handle to keep yourself from being too heavy 😛

slim light Oct 27, 2016, 7:59 PM

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neither ripped off the other they just have a similar core idea

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 7:59 PM

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completely original idea

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:59 PM

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where there is a simple reason why copies of games suck

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 7:59 PM

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that we had no time to implement

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 7:59 PM

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@past hull what game?

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:59 PM

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because they have the same skills needed to beat them

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 7:59 PM

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withc revenge

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 7:59 PM

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and beating it is the fun thing

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 8:00 PM

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you gave it 0 because it was too short 😛

uneven basin Oct 27, 2016, 8:00 PM

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oh no, I got minus points for too hard game back in 2015 jam

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:00 PM

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@past hull I gave it a 0?

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lol

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 8:00 PM

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well the witch game had no gameplay

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:00 PM

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What was the game about?

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 8:00 PM

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indeet

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 8:00 PM

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nice art though

uneven basin Oct 27, 2016, 8:00 PM

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afaik you haven't never played my games @rigid fog

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:00 PM

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@uneven basin so?

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What games do you have?

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 8:01 PM

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dont leave level design last

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and have source control

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:01 PM

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I don't remember With Revenge 😦

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What was it about?

wise apex Oct 27, 2016, 8:01 PM

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Also, it does help if level design complements your mechanics.

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 8:01 PM

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pretty game which was completed under 5 minutes

wise apex Oct 27, 2016, 8:02 PM

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Had that problem in the past

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 8:02 PM

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have had this problem in every jam but im never leading my team 😛

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 8:02 PM

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@rigid fog http://i.imgur.com/4U4ccRL.jpg

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 8:02 PM

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that game was sad, awesome art

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zero gameplay

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 8:03 PM

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im sorry :/ 1 of coders got sick and other one ran out of time on level design

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because he left it to last day

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 8:03 PM

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don't be

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just organize the team and project better next time

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:03 PM

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I don't even remember why we're talking about your game now @past hull

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 8:03 PM

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artwise i learned a lot

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 8:03 PM

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it's silly to have that big team and let one coder do everything alone in unreal

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 8:03 PM

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well you asked which game it was

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:04 PM

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Oh, you said it had some original thing

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Anyway

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If you have a 5 member teams

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you need at least two coders

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 8:04 PM

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it didn't seem that original to me

stable kiln Oct 27, 2016, 8:04 PM

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i had a super original camera system 😛

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 8:04 PM

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or if there was, it wasn't implemented

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 8:04 PM

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and we had but 1 got sick mid the jam

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:04 PM

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two coder, two artists

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one sound

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or wildcard

wise apex Oct 27, 2016, 8:05 PM

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team of wildcards kappa

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:05 PM

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I had a stacked team before Hurricane Matthew

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 8:05 PM

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the concept was that score would stop you from progressing in the game

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so you needet to settle the score

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to progress

wise apex Oct 27, 2016, 8:05 PM

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I had an idea that played off of that, but I wasn't able to participate.

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 8:08 PM

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@rigid fog which one was your game btw?

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kickback won btw

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:08 PM

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Some POS Text Adventure I only had 24 hours to create

tepid light Oct 27, 2016, 8:09 PM

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ehhh

slim light Oct 27, 2016, 8:09 PM

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so that seems pretty original?

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kickback

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I'm not sure what the argument was

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:10 PM

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This shit was the shit yo

slim light Oct 27, 2016, 8:10 PM

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it seems well done on every level, good look, fun gameplay

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:10 PM

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I can't even express how awesome this game was

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Not sure how viable it would be commercially

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 8:10 PM

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it was super well done

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:10 PM

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But as a Game jam game... PERFECT

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 8:10 PM

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for a week

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theme connection was perfect

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BUT

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I don't like the goal of the game

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:11 PM

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There were some issues

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 8:11 PM

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for some reason you have fun for 5min

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and then what?

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:11 PM

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So close to perfect

slim light Oct 27, 2016, 8:11 PM

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I love games like this where it's just one core thing worked on hard

tepid light Oct 27, 2016, 8:11 PM

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Use of the theme man

slim light Oct 27, 2016, 8:11 PM

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did e5 mins is perfect for a jam game

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:11 PM

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@robust basalt

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 8:11 PM

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yeah but where do you go from here with the game

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:11 PM

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that is why I said perfect for game jam

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 8:11 PM

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gamedesign wise

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:11 PM

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not commercially though

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THIS IS A GAME JAM

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 8:11 PM

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I know

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:11 PM

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not Demo for Commercial games

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 8:11 PM

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my favorite jam game

slim light Oct 27, 2016, 8:11 PM

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I feel sorry for the guys who have to play through loads of levels on jam games 😛

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:11 PM

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So, it did what it needed to do

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And won

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 8:12 PM

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but I was thinking about how to take this to a commercial game

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 8:12 PM

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use of theme was great gameplay was great and animations are great

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:12 PM

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I don't think you could

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 8:12 PM

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and initial reveal

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:12 PM

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Unless they fought back

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and you had different levels

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I don't know

slim light Oct 27, 2016, 8:12 PM

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you could have a few stages with differnt sports

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:12 PM

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I don't think you could make a 2-hr game out of it

slim light Oct 27, 2016, 8:12 PM

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and charge <$5

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:12 PM

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Maybe

wise apex Oct 27, 2016, 8:12 PM

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I think you could

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:12 PM

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You need at least two hours of gameplay

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so people don't troll you and refund

slim light Oct 27, 2016, 8:12 PM

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multiplayer mode maybe

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:16 PM

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Maybe

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Man

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This was such a blast

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Well deserved win

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 8:16 PM

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yeah

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execution and technical excellence

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polish

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and everything

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:16 PM

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I am so jelly

tepid light Oct 27, 2016, 8:18 PM

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Yea. this game absolutly deserves to win

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pumpkin hack was fun, but no theme connection.

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and opus was bad imo.

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looked nice, but not amazing

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 8:20 PM

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this raffle method favors 5 man team

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:21 PM

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yeah

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 8:21 PM

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on one hand it does favor for forming a big good team

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on other hand what if finalist was 1 man team

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 8:22 PM

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raffle is single individual though

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 8:22 PM

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it is

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but it favors big teams as overall winner for grand prize

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 8:24 PM

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better still than last year

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:24 PM

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Well

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TBH

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If anything

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It favored the Brothers

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 8:24 PM

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where grand prize was raffled amongs everyone

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:24 PM

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from Kickback

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 8:24 PM

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actually having 1 man team actually raises your overall change to win

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:24 PM

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But, yes, the bigger the team, the more

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chances in that team

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IF

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you had some sort of "contract"

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of who would win

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BUt tbh...

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I think it would be really hectic

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and drama filled

wise apex Oct 27, 2016, 8:25 PM

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I wouldn't jam on a team that did that

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:25 PM

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Imagine being in a 5man team and being the weakest link?

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And wining the Tiki?

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Winning*

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I can't even imagine

wise apex Oct 27, 2016, 8:25 PM

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Maybe, perhaps, if the team sold the prize and did equal split.

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Otherwise, winner of prize takes it.

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None of this "You win, I get the prize" bs.

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 8:25 PM

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you could just go 5 teams then

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same raffle chance

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:26 PM

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I mean, I got carried by @proven badge and @robust basalt in my last win

loud basalt Oct 27, 2016, 8:26 PM

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my visuals didn't even get mentioned, maybe i over-estimated them 😐

tepid light Oct 27, 2016, 8:26 PM

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I would like too see those low effort games filtered out +

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of raffles.

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Like low 20% for example

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:26 PM

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@loud basalt you got mentioned...

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 8:26 PM

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that would filter newbies out

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its terrible idea

loud basalt Oct 27, 2016, 8:27 PM

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must have been went i went to bathroom 😐

robust basalt Oct 27, 2016, 8:27 PM

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what game @loud basalt?

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 8:27 PM

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gamejams are to get ppl into making games

loud basalt Oct 27, 2016, 8:27 PM

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musical minions

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:27 PM

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It was quick

past hull Oct 27, 2016, 8:27 PM

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not the opposite

small fern Oct 27, 2016, 8:27 PM

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I can find the spot

wise apex Oct 27, 2016, 8:27 PM

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If you could properly measure it though

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:27 PM

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But it got mentioned

loud basalt Oct 27, 2016, 8:27 PM

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thanks @small fern

wise apex Oct 27, 2016, 8:27 PM

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And could actually determine what is low effort

rigid fog Oct 27, 2016, 8:27 PM

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That is why I mentioned you on Twitch