game-jam-chat

[rigid fog]

Should be good enough if he does it.

[upbeat wren]

I almost fell asleep a few times just watching how tired you were haha, tag me in the stream when you start

[pine fulcrum]

I'm debating delaying a day, depending on how fast I recover

Got sick from Steam Dev Days

Thanks Gabe

[rigid fog]

@pine fulcrum damn

You going to try to to steamroll through them or spread it out?

[pine fulcrum]

Iunno, we'll see

[rigid fog]

If steamroll... should take two days

Well, depends on how long you spend on each game I guess

[austere glade]

wow victor u did em all??

congrats man

[rigid fog]

I think about 85-90%

I missed out on most of the MP ones

and VR games

I think I am going to do the VR one tonight though

[austere glade]

oh wow how many vr submissoons??

[rigid fog]

I have 14 in my folder

[austere glade]

hot damn

[rigid fog]

14 viable ones

I think one was oculus only

so I couldn't play that

and one was cardboard...

and there were one or two that had no files

My team was prepared for a VR submission as well @austere glade

But uh, Hurricane Matthew rolled through...

[austere glade]

u lose power??

[rigid fog]

Yeah

And the other members evacuated

[austere glade]

whoah shit.. hope everyones ok

[rigid fog]

Yeah, it was over quickly

[austere glade]

thats good

[rigid fog]

Left a big mess in its wake though

[austere glade]

also thats what she said

[rigid fog]

😉

[radiant meadow]

well shit, @rigid fog i'm not going to argue with you 😃 ... but your feedbacks invaluable, devs should check the stream out either way

[stable kiln]

lol i entered a semi clone of my jam char into that char design contest

lal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ti8eABDNQ4&feature=youtu.be

i cant stop laughing 😄

[rigid fog]

@radiant meadow heh, good luck then 😃

And thanks

@stable kiln as long as they don't need to play with your crappy cameras

Is that all procedural?

[stable kiln]

no, i recorded it with shaddowplay instead of seq tho serious time budget again

the jam kinda messed up my cyborg plan 😛

and ur right iclone is shyt, this is rigged with bastoni lab

[rigid fog]

Aye, I am always right, 95% of the time.

^ @stable kiln

[stable kiln]

hmm i could do 2 more UVs and try make a seq with a few of those guys, 1 hour and 30 min left

i should ad music or voices tho

[stable kiln]

midnight PT

[rigid fog]

https://giphy.com/gifs/13oTcQaWAmBuSY

[stable kiln]

well didnt get to finish the seq, my clock was stuck 😛

next time 😛

i did learn somethign from that iclone program, they way they adjust animations is really nice, but can also be done in blender by hand

[acoustic glacier]

that pink thing tho

[stable kiln]

the tongue 😛

the face had another uv

total rush job 😛

[sharp berry]

@rigid fog My game (#17) was so bad that you couldnt write a review for it? 😛

[austere glade]

there are written revies for the games? got a link?

[sharp berry]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzdtzBcQ5vxsOUlPLUtpYVZMUUU/view

Yours is the Taxi one right?

3 - Good effort, very buggy, no blocking volumes

[austere glade]

mine is indeed the taxi one

[sharp berry]

He played mine before yours, but he didnt wrote a review on it 😦

[austere glade]

ah, well there wasnt supposed to be blocking volumes, he just wasnt supposed to have been driving with 0 HP, so that it didnt kill him when he hit the water lol

what was urs all about?

[sharp berry]

It was #17, Take It To Court

[austere glade]

oh what was the premise

[sharp berry]

You could select 1 of 3 cases, and try to win the Trust of the Judge by giving the right arguments, if you get too much Distrust, the defendant wins the case

https://www.twitch.tv/victorburgos_/v/94738640 @ 40min

[austere glade]

nice that sounds interesting

[sharp berry]

Tho, Victor only played 1 case of the 3 available :p

[pine fulcrum]

If anyone wants to help out, working on pre-filling this out

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I2qqXG3Z_pyCbkk_Z5tqJUPTdtF964jx9VNkKpnNpCw/edit?usp=sharing

lemme know

[acoustic glacier]

under 100 meg column?

[sharp berry]

#17, Take It To Court, TeamAmsanity, Team size, 1, Download link: https://goo.gl/kgHDaA, Dev Req: Yes plz!, WindowsNoEditor: yes

[radiant meadow]

@pine fulcrum something like this? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XVvif9LF9z7W4XzKAAPAc3byiWEw2M7y21npORYvoVk/edit#gid=0

[sharp berry]

Game Size column maybe?

[pine fulcrum]

No access Tinkurit :p

[small fern]

just under 100mb you'd think

too much work on figuring each zip size

also note that not every post had a game

people did offtopic on page two I think

[pine fulcrum]

aye

[radiant meadow]

try agaiin, changed access

[pine fulcrum]

Ah, sweet

[acoustic glacier]

ha

thats like the entire thing 😄

[pine fulcrum]

Theres a few things I"m gonna add and hopefully script for, so I'mma copy paste steal

[small fern]

not sure about the art award viable thing

[pine fulcrum]

You also have edit permissions on the one I linked if you check your email

[small fern]

it's more like opinion anyway

[pine fulcrum]

If thats aight with you @radiant meadow

[small fern]

unless each asset is sourced

[pine fulcrum]

Art Viable means they didn't disclaim outside game jam assets

[radiant meadow]

opened for edit too

[pine fulcrum]

Any game that claims outside art is not valid for art awards

Usually

[sharp berry]

Including textures?

[small fern]

^

like I said, it's more like opinion

as there could be different levels of asset sourcing

but yeah, that's just my opinion 😃

[pine fulcrum]

Its usually very clear whether they should qualify or not, at least in terms of judging, but aight

Don't want people freaking out about it

[acoustic glacier]

freaks out

[sharp berry]

i'm already freaking out now

[radiant meadow]

is all good

[small fern]

I didn't spot more than one entry that clearly didn't disclose assets but was likely to have assets that were done prior to jam

but it wasn't that solid entry that people should care about it, and probably hard to prove they did that anyway

[pine fulcrum]

If anyone else wants write access for a short time, let me know

@radiant meadow will always have write access because, yeah

[small fern]

heh

that list filled up quickly

[sharp berry]

HOLY **** that you did quick 😮

[radiant meadow]

in my list, i didn't link the posts after 58 because there are some non-entry-posts on page 2&3

[small fern]

did someone build a script to parse those?

[pine fulcrum]

Tinkurit did the hard work

[radiant meadow]

@pine fulcrum do you plan on removing the bad posts? or should i just link the posts where they are?

[pine fulcrum]

Debating

[radiant meadow]

no problem will link them either way when we get to them

[pine fulcrum]

Yeah I guess I'll remove them

Will screw up Victor's list

I also think if I remove them, links stay the same

not sure

I'll remove one at a time, looks like some posts were already removed

Making this hella harder

[small fern]

maybe use X instead of * ?

[pine fulcrum]

59, 61, 63, 66, 67, 70, 75 removed

[small fern]

it aligns better

yeah, that's more readable

[glass fossil]

requesting permission to edit for alice@glass fossil.com

also if you don't object I will make the header a fixed row

[pine fulcrum]

all the things

[glass fossil]

bam, now we don't have to scroll up and down to remember what the columns are

[small fern]

nice

[pine fulcrum]

Oh man, cleaning up submission thread

Some people posted updates as quoted posts

ugh

Removed #93

Okay, don't see any more off topic posts

Time to realign post numbers

sigh

[small fern]

hmmmm, should there be columns for playthrough start times too or will that make into separate list?

[pine fulcrum]

Those should be added

Did someone already align post numbers?

:0

[sharp berry]

Up to where Team Size is filled in, it matched with the post #

[pine fulcrum]

I'm double checking entire list anyhow, whooo

Yay community validity

[small fern]

#117 OctoPods team name is alperenakyuz (not mentioned on submission post but is on pre registrations + his username)

#136 has no team name, but download link is Electrodes_UnderworldOrbs.zip

which hints team name to be Electrodes

#137 is "perfect design"

in lower caps

[sharp berry]

Isnt WindowsNoEditor (Windows) build a yes, unless stated otherwise (i.e. Linux ?)

[small fern]

#173 team is "WaspSix"

[pine fulcrum]

Why is 162 Cowboy Smash yellow?

[small fern]

#117 team size is 1, at least if it's still same as on pre-reg thread where it read alperenakyuz (1)

people really should read the instructions though

[pine fulcrum]

Post number is accurate, at least after my look through

[small fern]

#96 has team size of 5

[pine fulcrum]

@sharp berry Refers specifically to people naming their folder wrong

[small fern]

from pre-reg: Hue-Manatee Productions (5)

[pine fulcrum]

@radiant meadow @rigid fog, why are some games colored?

[radiant meadow]

@pine fulcrum I colored those because they had additional builds (not win32, but android/mac/ or linux builds)

[pine fulcrum]

Does red mean unplayable on windows?

[radiant meadow]

nah, just lazy and picked random colors

[small fern]

there was one cardboard VR game though

and one for iOS?

unless they've been removed already

[radiant meadow]

i have notes on my sheet, but notes don't transfer in google docs :?

[small fern]

not sure if the iOS game had other builds

[pine fulcrum]

guess it didn't transfer, will use your doc as ref

[radiant meadow]

there's not a lot of em, i can add the notes

[pine fulcrum]

The fuck is a .egg file

[small fern]

heh

I can do batch on <100 MB list

unless someone wants to do it manually

[pine fulcrum]

On Colored Columns

X is green

nothing is yellow

[glass fossil]

I put ? in a few MP spots due to them stating multiplayer but not what type

Also put LAN on one

.EGG looks like it is a propriatary compression format that can only be uncompressed by two programs

Choice between:
http://www.altools.com/ALTools/ALZip.aspx
or
https://www.bandisoft.com/bandizip/

[pine fulcrum]

ugggh

really

[glass fossil]

both are free, though altools I have no idea who they are

would go with bandisoft between those two

[pine fulcrum]

Opened it up

Confirmed, is project source

disqualified

[glass fossil]

R.I.P.
https://giphy.com/gifs/nog-bury-xT9DPBMumj2Q0hlI3K

[loud basalt]

@small fern I'm here now because twitch has chat replay when you watch an old stream and I was watching Victor play my game 😉 I didn't know you were Rizu though! IRC really has died
@rigid fog Yeah that's the one, thanks for the comments 😄 It's always amazing watching someone play your game for the first time

[small fern]

@loud basalt nice to have you here 😃

cool entry btw

[pine fulcrum]

What is column N?

[radiant meadow]

making a auto color thing, don't like? or want to use?

[pine fulcrum]

The non-drop down colors support auto coloring, and they turn yellow if its not blank or x

Think its easier that way

[radiant meadow]

okay cool 😃 easier always better

[sharp berry]

OMG, I've been typing =HYPERLINK manually, right-click so much easier 😄

[loud basalt]

@small fern thanks 😛

i might develop it further for a release version, i still have a myriad of ideas for this game that had no chance in the jam period

[radiant meadow]

do you want me to add time stamps for stream, or just add that to the other sheet?

[loud basalt]

but doing prototypes game jam style is probably the best way to eventually lead to a completed game, because it lets you know if the concept works without any serious time investment

[pine fulcrum]

Adding links to posts starting at 120

[radiant meadow]

if you remove some of the empty posts, will it affect the links?

[pine fulcrum]

It shouldn't, but, I've already removed all the posts

[loud basalt]

@pine fulcrum do your streams still have a prize drawing of your own? I haven't done a jam since aug 2015 until now

[radiant meadow]

okay, cool

[pine fulcrum]

@loud basalt Not this one... maybe... iunno, we'll see

[loud basalt]

cool 😃

[pine fulcrum]

Depends if I have something laying around

[loud basalt]

you could just do a top pick of your own, don't have to send a prize

that's how much people love you right? 😛

[pine fulcrum]

I'm still debating putting in 'not final' scores for the three categories

As well as a twitch chat score

[sharp berry]

``2 core members, 1 special thanks.
Joseph Michael Corbett II, design/level design
Adam Wolf, Programming and design.

Thanks to
Gabriel Regan, Initial concept for game, and helped brainstorm mechanics with us.``

@pine fulcrum how should I take this? Just 2 members?

[pine fulcrum]

Yeaaah go with 2

[sharp berry]

Ok

[pine fulcrum]

Linking 95 upwards

[small fern]

heh, there are few 99MB entries on under 100 😄

[pine fulcrum]

Guess could be good to include file size for those < 100

[small fern]

does it hold some additional value?

I can do that

[pine fulcrum]

It'll keep whatever is typed in

[sharp berry]

#87 37mb game... what?

[pine fulcrum]

Unpackaged?

[small fern]

I could get blank project running with all engine feats at 25 MB

so, definitely doable

[sharp berry]

67mb unzipped

lol

[pine fulcrum]

ah

Yeah, its the unpackaged that counts

[small fern]

yeah, unpacked is what I've been checking now too

(that 25MB was unpacked btw)

kinda

[pine fulcrum]

Are there <100MB games that the submitter didn't state are <100MB games?

Because thats evil

[sharp berry]

Wait, this game makes a game with 2 members, and goes for the "Army of One" entry? 😄

[small fern]

there are bunch that isn't on that current list

I'll give updates soon

[pine fulcrum]

Just request access / give me an email

[sharp berry]

@echo sage = Universal Problem Solver?

[small fern]

DM'd

[sharp berry]

Team Members: Richard Boegli, Universal Problem Solver
Is it save to assume Universal Problem Solve is a title here, not a second person?

[pine fulcrum]

Yeah, I think so

[small fern]

check the pre-reg

they had to report member count there

if it's on the list that is

[pine fulcrum]

Aye

[sharp berry]

Cant find him on the pre-reg list

[pine fulcrum]

IIRC hes usually a solo'er

[sharp berry]

3 to 88 is done (<100mb filled in only when people mentioned it in their post)

Appearently I'm a Notes spammer 😄

[small fern]

yeah, I'll get the sizes there soon

I've mass downloaded them all 😄

I just need access to the doc

[loud basalt]

surprised no one made a script that located a download link and grabbed them all 😉

[sharp berry]

The edits are auto-commited right?

[pine fulcrum]

Yeah

[small fern]

@loud basalt well, that's close to what I did

[sharp berry]

I just saw the "Comments" button, so I thought I had to commit my edits :p

[small fern]

but I still need to check the unzipped sizes

[sharp berry]

Sweet! Can't wait till it starts

I hope I get at least a 4/10 score 😄

[loud basalt]

stream starts for me at 5am tomorrow 😄

[sharp berry]

3pm for me 😦

[proven badge]

Hey Allar, when does your stream starts tommorow?

[loud basalt]

the jam deadline was 8am too, this time zone thing can be a killer

[sharp berry]

Stream playtrough is starts 9AM

[loud basalt]

PDT

[proven badge]

pdt?

[sharp berry]

USA east-coast time, forgot the timezone

[pine fulcrum]

west coast time

[sharp berry]

3PM for +1 GMT 😛

[pine fulcrum]

WEST COAST TIME

[sharp berry]

oh

😄

[proven badge]

so 1 hour past original jam deadline?

[loud basalt]

i think it's 3 hours before

[sharp berry]

No, damn...

[pine fulcrum]

The Unreal Streams start at 11am for me

IF that helps

[proven badge]

sweet

5pm for me

[loud basalt]

ignore me, the time zone conversions mess with me

what you really should do is go here and plug in pdt, and your own time zone, and then look for 9am pdt http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/

[proven badge]

awww yeah

just finished ze partfolio, time to get jabs

[loud basalt]

no need to guess 😃

[sharp berry]

so if 11am is my 2pm, it means it starts 9am your time which is 12:00 +1 GMT, check!

[proven badge]

last jam was epic addition 😄

[pine fulcrum]

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/launch?iso=20161017T09&p0=137&msg=Allar+Playthrough+Stream&font=cursive

[loud basalt]

i don't even have a portfolio

[pine fulcrum]

That should say 17 hours for everyone

[loud basalt]

sure does

[sharp berry]

17:33

[loud basalt]

@small fern i took a job making a realistic character, never again, it's the most creativity-draining work there is 😦

[small fern]

heh

yeah, you do stylistic and classic animation well

[loud basalt]

i can do realistic well too

its just horrible work

[small fern]

ah

[loud basalt]

i can make anything at all

but i think indie should avoid realism altogether, just my opinion, it takes longer and requires significantly more work to get it to look good

[pine fulcrum]

Trying to figure out VLOOKUP for the request list... dunno whats up

[proven badge]

for realistic anims, motion capture is the way to go

[loud basalt]

whereas you can do stylized in 1/100th the time for much more effect (imo again)

[small fern]

yeah, pretty much

mocap cleanup can take time too

[loud basalt]

do you want to see my realistic character? it's very much a rush job than my best work since he can't afford more haha

[small fern]

sure

[proven badge]

show me

[sharp berry]

Online MP -> entered: LAN, to who did that, the next column is local multiplayer 😄

[small fern]

need to spread a word around, hire Vaei to do realistic chars only

[loud basalt]

disclaimer : lighting is generic and no HDR/IBL whatsoever, so it looks terrible compared to how it can look http://i.imgur.com/2xlv9iZ.png

no one can afford to hire me to do realistic characters

[proven badge]

props are quite low poly

[loud basalt]

oh i don't really need feedback, like i say it's a rushjob

[proven badge]

well at least you got hired

[loud basalt]

if someone wanted an AAA character I can do it, but for a lot of $

[proven badge]

not like you made it for free 😄

interesting that you got hired time based

[loud basalt]

it's just a quick freelance job

i can get hired if i want to though

but i want to make my own games

[sharp berry]

@pine fulcrum Maybe an idea to make every 2nd row light-gray background to make the readability a bit better, after a while the gray lining fades away from the vision :p

[loud basalt]

my actual area of expertise is technical art and creature rigging, and beyond that most of the generalist work i do is stylized

[proven badge]

how come you got hired to do character then, a friend favour?

[sharp berry]

technical art? Whats the difference between art and technical art? (sorry if its a noob question)

[small fern]

who can give me write access to that google doc?

[pine fulcrum]

You should have it

I sent you an email

[loud basalt]

i take whatever jobs people need for the most part, but i regret taking realistic

[small fern]

ah, I'll check

yeah, got it, thanks

I don't have that email account on my desktop email client so I missed the invitation

[radiant meadow]

nice request list @pine fulcrum !!

[pine fulcrum]

for sure

84

oops

[small fern]

hmm, I can't change the color?

or is it scripted

[sharp berry]

scripted

x is green, empty is red, other is orange

[small fern]

I started putting uncompressed sizes there

for under 100MB

[sharp berry]

@pine fulcrum scripted it, I dont know how he made it 😛

Ah, right mouse button on L column -> Conditational formatting

This google docs thing is amazing

[pine fulcrum]

Going all out on this spreadsheet

lmao

[radiant meadow]

Spreadsheet++, Allar inhanced

[pine fulcrum]

Request list is fancy

enter in post number, rest is populated

mark as played with an x, turns green

whee

[radiant meadow]

If there was a strict* forum post requirement ... maybe could be even fancier

[pine fulcrum]

aye

[sharp berry]

😐

https://media.giphy.com/media/EldfH1VJdbrwY/giphy.gif

[pine fulcrum]

Theres a list of contributors at the bottom

In case you're not on it

[austere glade]

man it must be a hell of a lot of work to even download all the games

[pine fulcrum]

Was the team list on the forums updated to include submissions

Or is it pre-reg only still

[sharp berry]

Nah, you can do that in a hour or so, if you have any good connection

[austere glade]

still tho, its prob a click fest

[sharp berry]

pre-reg still as far I could see

[pine fulcrum]

I just sorted team list on my end... is it sorted for yall or just me

hopefully just me

[radiant meadow]

yeah, my names on there twice. after i realized i wouldn't be able to finish on monday i sent Alexander another pm, letting him know that i would be withdrawing from the jam, and he just added my name again ... 😄

it was sorted, now it's back

[pine fulcrum]

I want to sort local only

[radiant meadow]

sorted...

[sharp berry]

k, finally setup a 'personal' twitter account xD

[pine fulcrum]

the fuck is filter for then

[rigid fog]

ah shit

my list is invalid now

🐒

[small fern]

is it?

[rigid fog]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Well, I am trying to catch up, but if posts were removed aye

[small fern]

just check where the gaps are on list

paste the list into excel etc

it's easy to fix the order

[rigid fog]

@sharp berry not sure why I didn't write one for you, I konw you were there while I was playing it though, so you heard what I had to say

[sharp berry]

True ^^

Actually watched it again a few hours ago 😛

[rigid fog]

I'm not doing anymore work on that 😉

It was fine, no reason to remove posts imho, heh.

[pine fulcrum]

Did I just sort the sheet again?

[radiant meadow]

yep

[pine fulcrum]

fuck

TEMP SORTING LIST MY TEAM NAME TO FILL OUT PRE-REG INFO

OKAY? OKAY

[rigid fog]

I am watching all this madness live

that sheet is getting rekt

[pine fulcrum]

The pre-reg list isn't sorted

nevermind

lmao

[radiant meadow]

stupid body needs food :/

[rigid fog]

Damn humans

@pine fulcrum What is the scoring range?

[pine fulcrum]

we'll find out tomorrow

lmao

[rigid fog]

oh god

I'll miss quite a bit of it sadly in the beginning since classes start back up tomorrow. But I'll definitely catch up when I get home.

[loud basalt]

i'm glad mine is later in the day, maybe i can wake up at 6am instead of 5am

although with this many entries it'll probably take the entire day.. haha

then again, want to see the others too..

[rigid fog]

removed review sheet if anyone looks for it. They'll need to watch their playthrough for a proper review.

[small fern]

@pine fulcrum this entry only has zip with screenshot on it: https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?124973-Epic-MegaJam-Submission-Thread&p=608635&viewfull=1#post608635

PANK-V PAYBACK

[proven badge]

for real?

lol

[small fern]

well

look at that IMG tag too

[proven badge]

raffle tryhards?

[small fern]

I added a note on google doc

what's up with all these google drive links without zips

[radiant meadow]

they are links to each projects download

[small fern]

I mean, there are lot of them

yeah, but not zipped

there's one I can't even get to zip it

[radiant meadow]

which one?

[sharp berry]

That img link is... brilliant!

[small fern]

this one: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_pAM7NE0iEta3lQTFdlV3BqUGM

I'll try it again after I've done these others that failed

almost done

[radiant meadow]

well, google drive has me offline right now. not sure if it's me or drive

[sharp berry]

hahahahaha, it really just has a screenshot in it

His team mates will kill him 😄

[small fern]

team of five

although

[loud basalt]

maybe 5 people wanting raffle prizes

[small fern]

could be that there's really no team mates

just hoping to win the raffle

[loud basalt]

and didn't see the 'valid entries' requirement

keyword: valid

[small fern]

or.. hope that nobody checks those

huh

[loud basalt]

there's virtually no chance of winning the NUCs / speedtree stuff

[small fern]

here's one entry that has bigger zip than the unpacked

I haven't checked for zips that are over 100 MB 😄

[rigid fog]

I TOLD YOU GUYS

[loud basalt]

6x NUCs, 197 submissions, each with 1-5 members

[rigid fog]

Some of those people...

[sharp berry]

they have no valid build, isnt that disqualification? No raffle if disqualified?

[rigid fog]

funnny

[small fern]

no wait

zip is same size

they've just used "no compression" setting

[rigid fog]

BTW, who is DOING THE DOWNLOAD links?!@

Because you are fucking it up

The Primary DL link should NOT be Itch.io

[glass fossil]

One person team advantage, no argument on who wins the Nuc 😄

[rigid fog]

You are allowing people who have worked past the deadline to submit updated builds

[radiant meadow]

@small fern western revenge doesn't seem to be packaged.

[small fern]

well, it doesn't even download

I didn't check the folder structure

[loud basalt]

@glass fossil is it based on the team of the participants, for example does one team win a NUC then decide who gets it, or does every participant get the chance to win

or the *..

[rigid fog]

@loud basalt 100% random person

[loud basalt]

ah

[small fern]

@loud basalt all raffles are 100% random

[rigid fog]

has nothing to do with team

[small fern]

well

not all

[loud basalt]

so 197-985 people, 6 winners = between 0.03% and 0.006% chance

[rigid fog]

he is talking about nucs

[small fern]

the computer is raffled amongs team members of 3 winning teams

[radiant meadow]

i downloaded two of the files, you'd probably have to download each file/folder seperately

[small fern]

but other raffles are 100% random

well

[rigid fog]

Anyway, you cheaters

[small fern]

is it under 100mb?

[radiant meadow]

but because it's not packaged, it wont matter

[small fern]

@radiant meadow ^

oh ok

[rigid fog]

So...

@pine fulcrum Are you downloading from posts or spreadsheet?

[sharp berry]

0.03-0.006% is still better odds than a jackpot lottery

[loud basalt]

haha

and depending on how many people in the 3 winning teams, there's between a .333% and .067% chance of winning the falcon NW PC.. if you win

excuse my extremely pessimistic way of looking at the raffles

also that isn't a %

it's a 0->1 ratio.. doh

[glass fossil]

It's realistic more than pessimistic 😃

[sharp berry]

I don't think I will win anything at all and ever will, but it shouldn't be a reason at all to participate in these jams to be honest

[loud basalt]

33.3% -> 6.7% chance

oh of course not, if i wanted a payout i'd do a job instead of a jam

i will say that leaving the ultimate prize to a raffle is a little silly

but that's just my opinion

that computer's worth ~$3000

[sharp berry]

It's a kind of fair raffle for that computer

Every individual from the three finalist teams will also be entered into the Grand Prize Raffle, where only one lucky person will receive the Epic MegaJam’s biggest reward; a Falcon Northwest Oculus-Ready Tiki PC.

[small fern]

unless

the winner is some idea guy who did nothing on that winning team

[loud basalt]

if they really want to do a raffle they should do two drawings

one to choose the team that wins it, then random between the members in the team

[rigid fog]

tbh

[sharp berry]

That extra team-step will make no difference

[rigid fog]

I predict the winnings teams

will have less than a total of 10 people

[loud basalt]

sure it will, because if you enter with 1 member that member auto wins with a 1/3 chance and doesn't worry about potential two 5 team entries

[rigid fog]

It'll be a 10% chance of winning

or more

[sharp berry]

@loud basalt If with only 1 drawing, or 2 drawings, the winner is potentially the same, so it wont make a difference

[loud basalt]

one of us doesn't understand what the other is saying i think 😉

but it really doesn't matter, the rules are set

[sharp berry]

Which submission is yours?

[loud basalt]

i'm not arguing for my sake if that's what you're thinking 😛 i'm just debating for the sake of it

@sharp berry https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?124973-Epic-MegaJam-Submission-Thread&p=608903&viewfull=1#post608903

[small fern]

@sharp berry if you first raffle for team, team has 33% chance to win the raffle, if you have only one member on team, your winning chance is 33%

even if other teams had 5 members

well

if that system Vaei suggested would be done

now if you are one member team and compete with two other winning teams with 5 members each, there will be 11 people entering the raffle

so naturally your odds to win are a lot worse

if you are that one man army there

[loud basalt]

^

of course then the argument becomes should winning with less people count for more

[small fern]

oh wow

here is one entry that has package size of 79MB on OSX

103 MB on win (zipped)

I guess I'll try to see how big the mac thing is unpacked

[rigid fog]

@small fern are you guys downloading these?

And putting them on the spreadsheet?

[small fern]

I've massdownloaded all that are under 100MB in size

just putting the under 100mb things there

[rigid fog]

gotcha

[small fern]

would have been easy if people actually put zips there :p

ton of google drive links

should not be allowed IMO 😄

I mean, google drive is ok, if there's direct zip link

[loud basalt]

maybe epic should have a submission page

but maybe they don't mind, otherwise.. i think they would?

[rigid fog]

I'm surprised there aren't more <60 MB

[loud basalt]

i'll show you guys soemthing funny if i can dig up an old gif

well not really old

but during jam

[small fern]

@pine fulcrum ok, I checked all the under 100MB submissions, they should be listed there now, I also marked every entry that had zip over 100 MB on my local list just to make sure I didn't miss any

should be all good now

[loud basalt]

it's a minion generator i made for creating the minion choir, it can change body proportions and keep animations intact etc, you can see it on the fatter ones where the legs move outwards (removed until i fix)

will make a full version of it for later use when making NPCs 😄

[small fern]

I was surprized how many music games were submitted

I mean, sure, it had score there but still

[loud basalt]

i think it was the first stage in thinking outside the box

because doing a revenge based game is too obvious

ah crap i just realized in that gif, nothings updating in the editor, it has to simulate

http://i.imgur.com/2rhSH9y.gifv

[rigid fog]

I didn't mind the music games

SOme of them were good, some not so much

[pine fulcrum]

Thanks @small fern

[small fern]

@pine fulcrum I also marked the entries with invalid downloads there on red, I dunno if those should be removed from thread or how are those usually dealt?

[pine fulcrum]

define invalid download

[small fern]

404, Page not found, or link to a note "we couldn't make it"

one had link to just single screenshot

I put descriptions on notes

[glass fossil]

wow you guys ended up adding tons of styling to this thing 😄

[pine fulcrum]

Any particular stat anyone would like to know?

[sharp berry]

How many <100mb entries are there?

[pine fulcrum]

Lets find out

[proven badge]

quite a lot, would not suprise me if 50% ~

[small fern]

around 20 would be my guess

nah

there weren't that many

20-30

24 it appears

if that counter is correct

[glass fossil]

some of these post number links are wrong

[sharp berry]

Thats not many on 191 entries

[small fern]

@proven badge

now with right link :p

what

that's not right 😄

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I2qqXG3Z_pyCbkk_Z5tqJUPTdtF964jx9VNkKpnNpCw/

that should work

[glass fossil]

From lines 87 and back all the post number links are wrong, going to start correcting them

[pine fulcrum]

87 to 0 or 87 to 190?

[glass fossil]

87 and a few before it

so the range of 0 to 87 at max, though I haven't checked as far back as 0

[small fern]

btw, also post 64 had funky link (I see you marked others better)

[pine fulcrum]

Not sure what happened to those

I linked ~95+

Stuff before that was linked by others

[glass fossil]

I did 88 through like 94

[rigid fog]

lol

[pine fulcrum]

Tinkurit also did 190-back a few

[rigid fog]

that is what happens when too many hands in the cookiejar 😉

[pine fulcrum]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sharp berry]

I linked 60 or so to 88

[pine fulcrum]

Meh, is alright

[rigid fog]

68% pre reg submitted

Not bad

[small fern]

well

[pine fulcrum]

Seems like most links I click on are correct

[small fern]

418 pre-regged

[pine fulcrum]

You may have just found the bad few

[rigid fog]

418?

[small fern]

yeah

[rigid fog]

huh?

Oh

418 pre-registered

[small fern]

I made this when megajam started (and messed it up, see the new link)

that's pre regs there

[rigid fog]

418 really?

Are you sure?

[small fern]

well, you can check yourself

[rigid fog]

there are 418 entries here?

fuck no

lol

[glass fossil]

okay its actually not that bad, its only lines 83 to 88 that are wrong

[rigid fog]

https://gyazo.com/8c701bb7095d4641742ae2693404b70a

[glass fossil]

unless someone just fixed them really fast

[small fern]

just paste the team names into excel

it's just 3 rows

[rigid fog]

if you say that's 418 entries, then okay

[small fern]

you'll see the amount

[rigid fog]

k

[small fern]

well, I could have done a bad paste 😄

but that's where I ended up with

[rigid fog]

wait

I have 280

are you talking about "people"

280 teams registered

you should be counting teams

not members

[small fern]

I did

[rigid fog]

?

well, one of us did it wrong

100 teams on row 1 and 2

[small fern]

hmmmm

it's 280 now

[rigid fog]

80 on row 3

lol

[small fern]

Alexander must have removed people who gave up?

[rigid fog]

Hmm nope

[small fern]

Last edited by Alexander Paschall; 10-11-2016 at 08:34 PM. Reason: TEAMS!!!!

yeah

that's odd 😄

[rigid fog]

that hasn;t changed since oct 11

[small fern]

wonder if I have the original spreadsheet somewhere

[rigid fog]

I was like, man, how did I mess up such an easy count

[small fern]

to see where the error is

[pine fulcrum]

Looking at post edit history

million edits lmao

[rigid fog]

lol

418 teams

seems way too high

[glass fossil]

okay fixed about 4-5 of them, looks like they're fine now

[rigid fog]

223 single man teams?

[small fern]

well

I'll do a new count

I don't know where that got messed up

[rigid fog]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

someone else already did btw

[pine fulcrum]

There are a small number of team names that were removed over time

Like +-5

[rigid fog]

https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?122362-Epic-MegaJam!-Oct-6-13th-2016&p=609064&viewfull=1#post609064

^ some metrics

https://gyazo.com/0f271b90a4c2b0801bf7f9e579befcf8

[glass fossil]

its kinda cool, seing how 1-4 person teams tend to register but then not pull through

[radiant meadow]

so i guess my scoring system didn't stand up to scrutiny

[glass fossil]

5 person teams decided not to register at all

[rigid fog]

Well, see

This is the deal

Most teams like a surprise attack

[small fern]

there's diff on the stats too

[rigid fog]

And @glass fossil

you are wrong

2-person teams were the most effective

[glass fossil]

ah right

[rigid fog]

solo still being least though

[glass fossil]

flipped it in my mind

[rigid fog]

4 people 2nd place

5 being last

3 being 3rd

wait

5 being 4th

[glass fossil]

Still, 1 person teams dropped out quite a bit

[rigid fog]

Hmm

I wonder what the issue is

Probably same as @small fern

Out of scope projects

And they don't finish

[small fern]

😄

[rigid fog]

😉

I mean, why else would you not submit right?

[glass fossil]

Some might over estimate their skills

[small fern]

well, last year I just couldn't get a single decent idea

this year my initial idea sucked and I still tried to do it

[rigid fog]

@small fern you notice... 2-man teams most effective... hint hint hint

[small fern]

lol

[rigid fog]

The brothers did The Kickback

The soccer ball game

Probably going to be #1 pick by everyone

TBH, the best games were made with 3 or less people

[small fern]

my top pick would have been the music one if it had actually worked with my logic

[rigid fog]

Which music one you troll?

there were only 50+

[small fern]

but apparently people solved some of the puzzles just by mashing buttons

[rigid fog]

Oh that one...

[small fern]

opus

[rigid fog]

I won by mashing buttons

[small fern]

I got past some puzzle like that too

it wasn't funny 😄

[rigid fog]

I am sure @pine fulcrum will too

[small fern]

oh right

we shouldn't give him tips

[rigid fog]

nope

But, I think he'll use the MLG strats

[small fern]

we definitely didn't mash any buttons

none whatsoever

[rigid fog]

TBH, I am curious as to which games he will give more attention to than I did.

[small fern]

you should still have finished the note collector game

[rigid fog]

Note Collector?

[small fern]

that'll be allars favourite for sure

probably

[rigid fog]

Which one?

[small fern]

the game, where you literally collect notes

blue and red

[rigid fog]

hmmmmmmmmmm, don't remember that one

[small fern]

you first pick one note, then you had to pick a pair for it

[rigid fog]

OHHHHHHHHHHH

that one...

lol

nah

he'll give up

[small fern]

yeah, he'll love it

[rigid fog]

There's no way

[small fern]

I'm going to be on the stream requesting it if the dev doesn't

[rigid fog]

I mean, he'll probably try twice until the time limit runs out

And then figure out he can't win

No wait

[small fern]

but you can win it

[rigid fog]

don't do it until I get home

@small fern did you win?

[small fern]

nope, but Allar is great at these kinds of games

[rigid fog]

then you can't say you can win it

lol

[small fern]

I don't have enough patience

well

I don't remember the time you had there

if it was like 500 seconds

and you had to collect 20 note pairs

12.5 seconds to collect single note

[rigid fog]

nope

[small fern]

I dunno, sounds doable

[rigid fog]

not possible

well, you saw me try

[small fern]

yeah

[rigid fog]

I died or got stuck way too easily

[small fern]

I tried it too

I gave up after 2 minutes 😄

[rigid fog]

lol

yeah, no, I don't have time for untested games

[pine fulcrum]

Note: Only devs request their games :p

[rigid fog]

Good

[small fern]

dang

[rigid fog]

@pine fulcrum Do you suffer from motion sickness at all?

[pine fulcrum]

Not usually

[rigid fog]

Hmm

[pine fulcrum]

It takes a fuckton for me to suffer from it

[small fern]

well, it's still submitted pretty early

[rigid fog]

You might just want to skip @stable kiln 's game and give him a 1

[pine fulcrum]

Sounds fun

[rigid fog]

j/k

just be careful

[pine fulcrum]

I think that spread sheet is as data packed as its gonna get

iunno

[rigid fog]

Aye

[ashen meadow]

@stable kiln wins art award for best options screen

[small fern]

heh, Handkor had to kill his project too

and then he did that other game in just 2 days

[rigid fog]

Yup

And tbh, probably will win because of it

[ashen meadow]

wonder what his other game was

[rigid fog]

some whale thing

https://youtu.be/59ugzYG0aC0

[ashen meadow]

oh yeah

meant to try that

watched you for a little bit playing it and was confused

[rigid fog]

He said I beat it better than he did

How that was possible.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[small fern]

I don't think I used all the things either

[rigid fog]

Well, I gave you hints 😉

[small fern]

yeah, although if I had seen that post mortem, I would have figured it all out a lot sooner =d

he spoiled so many things there already

not going to tell what but first thing he showed there was the thing that caused me the most issues to figure out

[pine fulcrum]

Neat, when game is added to request list, is auto marked as such on main list

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rigid fog]

nice

[small fern]

@pine fulcrum oh right, #129 should be disqualified as well

(no link at all)

https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?124973-Epic-MegaJam-Submission-Thread&p=608850&viewfull=1#post608850

[rigid fog]

@pine fulcrum Have you been given authority on disqualifying entries that do not meet minimum standards? Such that you know they just threw some shit together in an hour and threw it up there?

[pine fulcrum]

That will have to be discussed at Epic

[rigid fog]

Will you be keeping track?

[pine fulcrum]

Aye

[rigid fog]

K, because you'll run into a few of those

And I smell something organic being smoked around my house

brb

[small fern]

@rigid fog you know what, the carrot game was 4 player local co-op 😄

well, that makes sense why there was literally nothing on it with 1 player

that's the game that have registered domain for the entry

[rigid fog]

hmm

don't remember carrot game

I played it?

[small fern]

but...

1) Last man Standing
2) Couldn't get 4P local play to work in my first GameJam, so I started from scratch for this one```

so I dunno if there actually it local MP

well

there were no carrots

[pine fulcrum]

Think I'm gonna need @wheat axle or somebody for local stuff

[rigid fog]

He live close by @pine fulcrum ?

[pine fulcrum]

Kinda

[rigid fog]

You can probably get @pine glade then too

[small fern]

but the game had carrotattack.com written on huge letters in the middle of the game screen

[pine fulcrum]

Aye

[small fern]

http://carrotattack.com/

[rigid fog]

You'll definitely need 3 more players

Also, you should make a post for people to pre download the online multiplayer entries

[pine fulcrum]

So annoying to get multiple people for a big game jam thats mostly single player

[rigid fog]

Aye

Well

you can front load them

figure out what time people are available and just do all the local MP stuff first

hmm

[small fern]

heh, I just tested

[rigid fog]

Only 7 Local?

Are you guys sure?

[small fern]

carrot attack need 4 gamepads

[rigid fog]

It seemed like a lot more

[pine fulcrum]

List probably isn't 100% accurate

[austere glade]

lol wha?

[rigid fog]

and only 3 Online MP?

Oh okay

Because I was like...

[small fern]

or well, i have 2 gamepads, so I can control 2 out of 4 chars on that game

[rigid fog]

definitely a lot more Online MP

[pine fulcrum]

I think 120 on hasn't been filled in

looks that way at least

Also, could be submitter didn't mention in desc

[rigid fog]

You are right

There were a lot of those

Next time, need to make that a rule

same shit with VR games

[pine fulcrum]

Game description notes as

Requires motion controllers

wat

[rigid fog]

aye

[pine fulcrum]

Does that mean VR?

[rigid fog]

Some say touch controllers only

I am like what?

[pine fulcrum]

Or does it mean VR without the HMD

[small fern]

gotta make PS move controller game for next jam 😄

I have those things here

used them for mocap

(for additional hand tracking)

#186 looks bit fishy

although it's possible it's just 3 brothers who did the game

heh

kinda weird that there's 20 VR games

11%

[pine fulcrum]

I just had to edit a post

Because someone included their mail address

what

I think the green/red fields are now 90%+ accurate

At least based on description

But too many people don't include those important details in description

I have 6 online mp games listed

hmm

[small fern]

why the cool char score is at Q and not after chat score?

or, should all scores be after the game details?

or, maybe after team sizes

I dunno

[pine fulcrum]

Iunno, seems 'less important'

Might just remove it

Although it is a category

Iunno

[silver swan]

ill make sure i label future submissions with singleplayer/MP i guess they should make that mandatory

[small fern]

well

they even did template this year

and people still didn't fill in the details that was on the example

some didn't even put in the team name

[silver swan]

thats those same people who pull out in front of traffic without looking

[velvet echo]

"those people" argh!!

[rigid fog]

I agree @silver swan

MP/SP/VR should be mando

MP+Local/Online, # of players

All of these should always be mandatory

[glass fossil]

68% pre-registration metric is pretty cool

[rigid fog]

TBH, we as a community can make this right

[glass fossil]

gives a good insight into what next year might be like

[rigid fog]

Since @small fern is so good with small apps

He could do something like a registration app

[glass fossil]

Google Forms is a free easy thing to set up

[rigid fog]

You fill it out, and it autoposts it

Well, it would need to upload to forums somehow

[velvet echo]

next up... epic jam website.

[rigid fog]

TBH...

[velvet echo]

jams.unrealengine.com

[rigid fog]

That should be a thing

But I know people don't want Epic getting their hands on it

So, it'll have to be a community run thing

[ashen meadow]

if only we had a community somehwere full of unreal people

[velvet echo]

wouldn't be too hard would it 😄

i know i could make a site to do most of it

[small fern]

@rigid fog well, that kind of thing should be web app

[velvet echo]

not right now, they want me to work overtime 😦

[small fern]

but I don't really do webdev

[rigid fog]

damn

[small fern]

I mean , I could but that's like most tedious line of sw work there is

[velvet echo]

it's easy

[rigid fog]

"easy"

to those who do web stuff

[velvet echo]

peasy

[small fern]

well, it's not difficult

it's just something I deliberately try to avoid at all cost

as it's not something I enjoy doing at all

[velvet echo]

i wouldn't trust my server for downloads though

all downloads would need to be hosted somewhere else

[rigid fog]

Well, I guess that's the issue really

Server still needs to host

[pine fulcrum]

If you're a game jam dev in the mega jam and wants to be in voice chat during my playthrough of your game, pm me

[rigid fog]

But it'll take it away from the forums

[ashen meadow]

that sounds pretty funny

[rigid fog]

Could be the best thing though for game jams

[ashen meadow]

now shatty, why does your game suck. uhhhh

[velvet echo]

would allow others to comment on each game though

[rigid fog]

Only have a link from the Community Website

[pine fulcrum]

It'll either go great or terrible

[small fern]

I wouldn't force uploads to certain server though

[rigid fog]

Why not?

[velvet echo]

nah, just provide link

[rigid fog]

That's the whole point of it

[small fern]

well, regional issues for one

[rigid fog]

Upload the game to the community site

[small fern]

some could get crappy speeds

[rigid fog]

Why, everyone can access the website?

Hmmm

I guess

[velvet echo]

just onedrive

[small fern]

or in general, you'd get peak on upload moment

[rigid fog]

Might have to bounce off other servers

[small fern]

on server

[glass fossil]

I could make something like that without much issue, but it would be tedious and probably overkill for what we really need

[rigid fog]

Not really

The benefits

Outweigh the cons

If someone is willing to put in the time and effort

There's so much you can do

[glass fossil]

my implementation would use S3 so speed and availability wouldn't be an issue

[pine fulcrum]

$

[glass fossil]

since I use S3 for all the sites I build for the company I work at

[velvet echo]

uploading 300mb+ to a server using browser. always buggy

well 100mb+

[pine fulcrum]

I'd say the best person to do it would be someone committed to doing something every month regarding it

I.e. the twitch exposure / etc

[velvet echo]

i would do it for no exposiur

oops, bad spelling

[pine fulcrum]

2 years of jam playthroughs has been quite helpful career wise

So hosting + more stuff would probably be aight

[glass fossil]

I'd probably also set it up to automatically transfer the files to glacier after a month or so, unless Epic wanted to give money to help hosting costs

[rigid fog]

Aye, I don't mind the Game Jam Playthroughs

But have no idea about web stuff, so would need that help 😃

[glass fossil]

not glacier actually, s3 Infrequent Access

[velvet echo]

epic hosted would be best... use same login, etc.

not gonna happen though without someone making it first

[pine fulcrum]

If Epic would give me OAuth access, I would have already built it a long time ago

But thats an ongoing battle

[velvet echo]

haha

build it and when it gets popular they give you a grant?

[pine fulcrum]

aye

[glass fossil]

He already started building his marketplace tools, but that hasn't auto resulted in api access yet

as far as I know

[pine fulcrum]

Aye

fucking

jltghkdflgd

[rigid fog]

lol

When you're too good...

...people get scared...

[velvet echo]

you just looking to build something like gamejolt? 😄

[rigid fog]

tbh

pretty much