game-jam-chat

[rigid fog]

and it created a new folder under my profile name instead of going into dekstop

bad Victor

[robust basalt]

I wanna like #24

love the intro

but no screenshake for an action game

no hit feedback

on scale from 1 to awesome

this is somewhere in the okay area

[tepid light]

that badass bred. nice

love the intro

I feel like I wasted a lot of potential with my game.

Terrible balance

would be so easy to make it with a team

[rigid fog]

@robust basalt are you comparing this to other submissions?

Or other actual games?

You have to lower your expectations quite a bit

[robust basalt]

actual action games

[rigid fog]

As someone who playthroughs Gamejams

Yeah, that's not fair

[robust basalt]

I don't really have to lower my expectations, people just need to watch this 15min video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy0aCDmgnxg

[tepid light]

yea.. gameJam need a different scale.

[rigid fog]

They didn't have a budget nor months to work on it

[robust basalt]

apply the rules

and make 100% better games

[rigid fog]

?

Dude...what

[robust basalt]

😄

[rigid fog]

Again...

[tepid light]

things like that take a lot of time.

[rigid fog]

Shipped games vs 1-week game jam games...do not compete

Time and playtesting

which most people don't get

in a gamejam

But anyway, my top picks are all subjective anyway

like anyone else's

And my subjectivity is based off of the current playthroughs on gamejam submissions

nothing else 😃

tbh, people who had the week for a jam submission can count themselves very lucky 😭

[small fern]

@robust basalt have you seen that talk from beginning? 😄

like, the version where they show the original introduction

oh wait

it wasn't even on that vid, he apparently does it for all his talks 😄

[robust basalt]

the video I posted?

[rigid fog]

https://twitter.com/victorburgosG3/status/786965362709495808

[small fern]

heh, I just realized

[rigid fog]

whoa... big face

[small fern]

it's not shown on GDC too

I have the original video of his previous talk

it was hilarious

http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1361/(304)-CRAYON-PHYSICS-DELUXE

that was the talk but GDC player cuts the beginning automatically

[tepid light]

So Opus, 129 i think

looks pretty on a screen

not that good in game

[robust basalt]

yeha, felt the same way

[tepid light]

runs terribly

and sound is irritating as hell

[robust basalt]

for sokme reason the performance is terrible

not very fun to play this way

[tepid light]

plus it would be nice to display all the notes / images

all the time

like magicka

[robust basalt]

I like the concept, lacks lots of polishing though

[tepid light]

@rigid fog Videos is broken on stream

[glass fossil]

So weird to be back at the office after a week of nothing but looking at the editor (aside from the short trip to meet everyone at dev days)

[robust basalt]

@tepid light SCREENSHAKE!!!!

😄

[upbeat wren]

Does anyone have a complicated animation blueprint that I could see? just the topology of the states

[tepid light]

I don't, but content examples have a decent animation blueprint for the animation of that rockfaced dude in a coat

Owen?

[proven badge]

yea what do you mean when you say complicated

you want like many different states and blending or something?

[upbeat wren]

@proven badge I've only ever done simple blending mixed in with change states such as, is jump, is land etc, I always wondered what complex BPs were like with more than just 4 nodes and complicated logic transitions in comparison to the newbie level im at

[proven badge]

well I can't say that I worked with really complicated bp's but Normal anim bp's usually have same logic you just mentioned followd by additional states for actions like shooting / climbing / swimming or taunts for that matter.

Real complexicity starts when you input something different than actual animation like blending many different animations by bone into one or setting IK handles of feet / arms and making them to adjust to the environment (Havne't done that myself, actually interested on how its done)

[upbeat wren]

@proven badge thank you for the response, it will be interesting to investigate further into animations

[proven badge]

check the Procedural Animation demo map in UE4 examples

they added it with 4.13

[upbeat wren]

Isn't that where you can great some crazy animations? like ragdolls meets animations?

[proven badge]

yeah they demo'd how to blend physics ragdolls with animations

best one I saw is where you hit a body with a ball, and it ragdolls just that bone and hierarchy attached to it

that's some next gen shit right there

[upbeat wren]

I think I saw that one, did he hit the ball like it was a cartoon? just slammed against it legs and arms spread?

[proven badge]

Imagine your shooter games where you see your bullet impact displayed by dude revolting in the area you shot him at

[upbeat wren]

that would be even better with VR

that immersion

[proven badge]

yeah

shame its a bitch to sync ragdolls on mp

but for single player games will be seeing much of that in upcoming releases

[robust basalt]

where is that anim demo?

[upbeat wren]

it's that dam physics factor, physics + networking is a pain

[robust basalt]

learnign tab?

[proven badge]

that one is in example projects

yeah learn tab > content examples > procedural animation

[robust basalt]

k, will check it out

haven't looked into the content examples for a long time

[rigid fog]

@robust basalt YOUR SCREENSHAKES

[frail palm]

What game jam games have yall played?

[rigid fog]

All the first, some of the 2nd and a few from page 3/5

If you want to stream game jams @frail palm let me know and you can just pick up from the end?

[frail palm]

I might play some of them, but im thinking of working on the game I've made.

[rigid fog]

what number is yours?

[frail palm]

143. But you might not be able beat the game becase i forgot to load in the last level.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0By_Fe9MwPhZSb09oRVRCUnVsajQ/view?usp=drivesdk

However i fixed it and updated it. But fail to get it up there in time.

[proven badge]

My favourites so far #115, #128 #129. But I haven't played them all

[dire heart]

I'd love it if anyone wanted to try me and @pearl roost game and give us some feedback! It's #159 😄

[proven badge]

that's a weid way to share google drive files

[dire heart]

Me? @proven badge Was my first time using google drive 😄

[proven badge]

haha

nice one

mom wrecked me 😦

really nice touch to tell the narative like that

@dire heart You get style points from me for doing that 😄

As far as the game itself is concerned, there is very little of it

[dire heart]

Thanks! @proven badge I wanted to keep it short and sweet!

[proven badge]

you know, if pokemon will ever gonna make a proper 3D version this is how it should look like 😄

in game cinematics and all 😄

[dire heart]

@proven badge That is the greatest compliment i've ever gotten

[pearl roost]

😄 glad you liked it!

We probably could have made it longer if we made the high score a bit higher, since there are random dialogue cut scenes based on how close you get to the score.

We just didn't want to make the high score too hard to get haha.

[proven badge]

I think its about right not to make it longer just by score

[pearl roost]

Thanks 😄

[rigid fog]

@glass fossil playing your game

[acoustic glacier]

that jam was fun 😄

[dire heart]

Thanks for playing our game @rigid fog

[pearl roost]

Yeah it was awesome to watch you play it haha 😄 @rigid fog

[random parcel]

If you haven't seen or played it yet. Short gameplay video of "Four Score Brawl"

https://twitter.com/exifrexi/status/787031052091068416

@glass fossil

[glass fossil]

Watching now 😃

[random parcel]

Only had 2 rounds with 2 other friends. So to see more of the game you have to play it :P

Ah, It's called "Epic Mega Jam". I failed. But what ever

[acoustic glacier]

I am glad you like our game Slapunas 😃

[upbeat wren]

@glass fossil You have used Adobe Fuse before haven't you Valk? Do you know why after import the model renders like this? http://i.imgur.com/4nf9WOF.png

[glass fossil]

oh for sure

one sec

I'll give you a video that fixes that

[upbeat wren]

thank you

[glass fossil]

https://youtu.be/KLEop3QiRfc?t=31m59s

Start watching from that time stamp

[upbeat wren]

thanks valk

[glass fossil]

he will teach you how to fix it

he gives every step, it is the best

that is how I learned

❤

UE4 and Mixamo don't fully understand each other, so you have to do one extra import of the textures and then just do slight tweaks to the materials

[upbeat wren]

@glass fossil Thank you again, this worked great

[glass fossil]

for sure 😃

[torpid grove]

Hello

[rigid fog]

@random parcel @maiden loom playing your game on stream now

[random parcel]

Awesome (: have fun

[maiden loom]

ah cool

link?

[rigid fog]

https://www.twitch.tv/victorburgos_

@random parcel get your butt into twitch and fix your game

[random parcel]

Fix your ports

The game runs fine across network

[rigid fog]

lies

[random parcel]

I had not a single issue hosting a game

Sorry of something broke for you

[rigid fog]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Kitatus couldn't host it either

But Ambershee pulled through, not sure what was up

[proven badge]

This is how jam games are being made
http://i.imgur.com/HEZnZdt.mp4
well AI for sure

[rigid fog]

Food in my tummy

[austere glade]

what are u hosting on.. ec2?

[rigid fog]

@desert sun what?

what's ec2?

[austere glade]

nevermind.. its a dedicated exe? on ur machine?

[rigid fog]

oh their game?

yeah it was

for whatever reason me (usa), and ryan (uk) couldn't host, but someone else could

this was after disbling ports

[austere glade]

u have to port forward but also setup firewall rules typicaly

[rigid fog]

I was able to get people INTO the session

but game wouldn't start up

[austere glade]

ah.. thats weird

[rigid fog]

ya, no idea, strange little bug

[rigid fog]

@ashen meadow you troll

who makes triggers for jumping?

[rigid fog]

@ruby cradle need a better way for submissions

Should all be one central place. many reasons for this not to include potential cheating, unsafe files, etc.

[ashen meadow]

trigger jumping is awesome

[velvet echo]

anyone played my game? i'm not sure if the download works

i had problems with the server the other day

[brittle lintel]

link it

[rigid fog]

Alright, starting back up with MegaJam playthroughs. https://www.twitch.tv/victorburgos_

[feral halo]

@rigid fog how goes your game project btw?

[rigid fog]

@feral halo which one?

[feral halo]

your game on

@rigid fog on a sidenote Our submission @161 is broken (that copy linked to the wrong server) causing a connection kill

I already Pmed chance about it

[rigid fog]

@feral halo game on?

[feral halo]

Your game one

you were working on

[rigid fog]

Hmm, Technically, I am working on 3 projects, 2 school, 1 work

I don't know which one you're talking about though

[feral halo]

-.-

[robust basalt]

@rigid fog did you find any new gems like the soccer ball game?

[rigid fog]

@robust basalt BadAssBrad, just replayed it and finally won

Return Fire

so 20 and 24

129 is pretty good puzzle too

Theme connection personally is a bit weak

But, eh, people convinced me enough to put it up for contender

[feral halo]

@rigid fog so dont bother doing @161 until chance edits the post

with a fixed version (its just a url pointer issue0

[robust basalt]

yeah I played #129

pretty solid, but performance is terrible for some reason

also some obvious issues that should have been fixed with some playtesters

[feral halo]

Dunno about everyone else

but we are gonna actually release our megajam game soonish

Just taking a few days off

and then gonna go at it hard

[rigid fog]

@robust basalt what gpu you got?

[robust basalt]

560ti

[rigid fog]

I know my rig is decent, but it's only a 980 on my PC

[robust basalt]

oldschool

[rigid fog]

oh

[brittle lintel]

I crashed Segmented 😮

to many slices

[rigid fog]

@small fern @robust basalt DL and play thru #112

Pro game

[robust basalt]

on it

is that the game you are playing right now? looks like rolling ball template without screenshake -.-

okay 😄

[feral halo]

@rigid fog Did you see the menu screen we ended up with?

[rigid fog]

@feral halo what menu?

[feral halo]

our game

think i posted it here

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/219790352268132353/236753322126606336/unknown.png

Also fun fact we made 361 commits

in the megajam period

we are taking a couple days off then gonna go hard and release it on steam, etc

[rigid fog]

#84 is cool, but you need some op math skills

and it not to be 4am

[sullen flume]

Any results regarding the GameJam?

[uneven basin]

oh no, it will take at least 2 weeks to get any results

[sullen flume]

Okay thanks

[keen plinth]

Is allars playthrough stream today or tomorrow

[tepid light]

I think it starts on monday

[keen plinth]

thanks allshar

[sharp berry]

25 downloads of my game entry so far

[tepid light]

what site allows for monitoring of that?

[rigid fog]

Yawwwnnn

@keen plinth you guys trying to get a fix in before hia stream?

[keen plinth]

trying to finish all the features we had planned

[rigid fog]

Ah cool

Try not to break it

[keen plinth]

pfffft I cant break my baby

[rigid fog]

You guys should concemtrate on bug fixes inho

[keen plinth]

I fixed most of them

[rigid fog]

Unless you already resolved them

K

We will see around 1 ;)

[keen plinth]

sounds good!

[acoustic glacier]

what time is it for you now Victor?

[rigid fog]

1013am

So I got like 6 hr sleep

But need to get this show on the road

[acoustic glacier]

coolio

I think my game was the second on your list to play today 😄

[rigid fog]

I will start streaming in 16 mins @acoustic glacier

[acoustic glacier]

❤

[rigid fog]

actaully

actually

I'll stream the current list/reviews so people can read and be mad if they want

[acoustic glacier]

sounds good

[rigid fog]

But need to fix me up some food before I start

[rigid fog]

https://twitter.com/victorburgosG3/status/787304715092631555

[somber hazel]

Can someone give me the date for Allars stream?

Need to fix my game before he does :3

❤

But 2 lazy right now

[glass fossil]

monday

17th

[acoustic glacier]

also, the game jam is over

[glass fossil]

But you can't change your game post jam

[somber hazel]

yes I can :3

[acoustic glacier]

...

cool, then you arent "game jamming" you are "making a game"

[glass fossil]

as long as you're cool with not having it be in the running for the game jam, then its fine, but as @acoustic glacier says you've evolved from jamming to standard making a game

[somber hazel]

no, if my game build was broken

and changing 2 values increase the game fun by 200%

[acoustic glacier]

then you failed the jam

[somber hazel]

and?

its not like Im forcing him to play

[robust basalt]

just post a second link

and disclose it

[somber hazel]

ofc I do

[rigid fog]

https://www.twitch.tv/victorburgos_

Who wants to play a MP game real quick?

[fallow lion]

and ... if there is a win lose condition in the GameJam you are cheating. just saying. the point is make a game in the time frame. if you didnt you fail

[pine fulcrum]

Its the megajam

Playing things that are submitted on time

Megajam is the only jam Epic enforces strict deadline rules on, I feel I should do the same

[rigid fog]

You go boy

[acoustic glacier]

3

❤

[somber hazel]

I mean, I never said I want to submit something for the jam though

[pine fulcrum]

Especially since I'm jusging

Er, judging

Aye

[rigid fog]

However, be careful @pine fulcrum

[somber hazel]

well, didnt know you judge this time ❤

[rigid fog]

Some links are to folders or itch.io only

[glass fossil]

ah right, as a judge you have to be extra careful

[rigid fog]

So, people can just swap out builds with ease

[pine fulcrum]

Aye

[somber hazel]

...

yeah, kay :3

[rigid fog]

We need a better way to manage this in the future

[somber hazel]

I dont know

[pine fulcrum]

Yall can figure out a better way next month, I'm retiring after this

[rigid fog]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

No

[somber hazel]

syr for spamming ya ❤

[pine fulcrum]

Spam?

[glass fossil]

I guess you'll just have to take up the mantle Victor

the crown of suffering must pass

[pine fulcrum]

Playthroughs have definitely been worth doing

[rigid fog]

Everyone play #103 after it gets dark

[acoustic glacier]

😄

[rigid fog]

https://www.twitch.tv/victorburgos_ Page 4 playthrus

[rigid fog]

fucking handkor

@terse current nice game

@robust basalt play 130

[acoustic glacier]

yeah, looked really cool

[proven badge]

Allar retiring? noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[small fern]

gotta give @pine fulcrum credit for his persistency on game jam playthroughs still

never seen anyone else trying so long to finish each entry, even if the game has been tedious or difficult to beat

[rigid fog]

@proven badge why you guys kick everyone out of the room?

QQ

Where are you putting the links to your post-megajam builds?

[rigid fog]

@somber hazel did you not submit?

[small fern]

@somber hazel this yours? https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?124973-Epic-MegaJam-Submission-Thread&p=608884&viewfull=1#post608884

404

[rigid fog]

aye

[small fern]

was the google drive link live before?

[rigid fog]

dunno

[pine fulcrum]

He removed it

[rigid fog]

but less games for me to play

there are a few others on page 5

build failed

so they removed it

but left link to folder 😦

left a nice little note tho

[small fern]

was thinking about that automated downloaded for jam entries

it wouldn't be that difficult to do for most common file hosts

but there are always some really weird ones

[rigid fog]

TBH, imho, Epic should just see about hosting the submissions

[small fern]

I dunno

that's not a good idea

I mean, on paper it is

[rigid fog]

why

[small fern]

but that's not what they do, and we all have seen how they do things when they start doing things they don't do usually (marketplace still runs with almost everything done manually)

I wouldn't want them to put any resources on building a platform for this

[rigid fog]

True I suppose

[small fern]

as it would end up being half baked anyway as they can't put enough resources to it to make it top notch anyway

[rigid fog]

Then we as a community need to do something

Definitely need to at the very least have some guidelines on zipping/folder structure

[small fern]

well, having various file hosters have worked just fine so far, just bit tedious

I'd prefer requirement with direct download link to single zip file

that would make it all nice and easy

but I understand people might not have always an option or knowhow how to do that so they'll just end up uploading things to the services they already use

[rigid fog]

Will be playing your game later @upbeat wren

[upbeat wren]

@rigid fog I apologise before hand for it, no excuses can bring it around to say i'm sorry enough

[rigid fog]

it can't be that bad

have you watched some of my playthroughs?

[upbeat wren]

I've been watching it all

[rigid fog]

oh

well then, you know..

there have been some ummm...low-entry submissions

[upbeat wren]

It's the first thing I've ever released and the idea guy/ui artist deleted all our work so we had to recreate it all within 2 days while finding a new artist, killed me to have to release it but if I was a solo act I wouldn't have commited it

[rigid fog]

ah

[upbeat wren]

@small fern advice on team work was spot on but I didn't take action

[rigid fog]

@sullen flume will be playing yours soon also

[small fern]

I didn't mean to advice though, more like warned based of my personal experiences

[upbeat wren]

@rigid fog I think I managed to squish most of the bugs though, only one which is awful, if you lose or win you have to restart the game as I forgot to reset the flag. I will offer beer money for your pain

@small fern You should have given it as very strong advice, could have saved me 5 days of hell lol

[small fern]

also, I'm not in position to advice people on teamwork 😄

I'm such a lone wolf myself

[upbeat wren]

If the info is right but hard its great advice 😛

[small fern]

when it comes to gamedev that is

[rigid fog]

Someone needs to finish a game

cough

[small fern]

game jam you mean?

[upbeat wren]

You were talking to me like a dam phrophet, everything you said came to pass, just waiting on the plagues

[rigid fog]

lol

and ya 0

[small fern]

does it count if I've finished every game project with deadline so far that hasn't been a game jam ;D

[upbeat wren]

I'm in the middle of a game now and when I release it I think I'll have to put @rigid fog as an easter egg, sat on a PC playing my game before suicide

[pine fulcrum]

Did someone not use source control again

[rigid fog]

Didn't someone make a Supermarket game for gamejam before?

[small fern]

did and won

[upbeat wren]

@pine fulcrum I used source control, github, owned by the idea guy

[rigid fog]

Who was it?

[pine fulcrum]

Fucking Crackpot Gumption

[rigid fog]

I need to verify this wasn't a rip

oh that newb

he is getting married

Or already married

[small fern]

I actually helped the supermarket game guy on irc briefly when he was stuggling with the cart mechanics

[rigid fog]

damn, what's his dicord name?

[small fern]

newb?

[rigid fog]

I said it lovingly

in my head

anyway, some guy has a supermarket game on page 5

looks exactly like it

[small fern]

yeah, I mean I wouldn't count someone newb that has been using the engine for that long time

yeah, I saw it too

it's possible that it's coincidence though

not everyone follows all past game jam entries

"no time to make up a Name for a shopping Game"

was created outside the jams time-frame.```

that's weird

game doesn't seem to have many textures

[rigid fog]

lol

[small fern]

surely one could make few labels during one week jam

[rigid fog]

I am really curious as to what games @pine fulcrum and the rest of the judges are going to pick

sigh

https://gyazo.com/cda3e5f4fb2272e2e346af8011f71935

i keep coming up to either empties or 404s

from people who were submitting late and then pulled out

At least they pulled out with some dignity

[small fern]

I think they should enforce the "no placeholders" rule on submission thread too

[rigid fog]

Used to be a thing

The only ones I am legitamately annoyed at are the ones who just uploaded folders into their google drive

and didn't bother to zip them

So I have to wait for Google Drive to do it

[upbeat wren]

Thank god I at least did that 😐 lol

[rigid fog]

FML

Virus--filled--ad--spamm---pos fake websits linked

http://www.4shared.com/zip/ihvVfKLqce/AzothStudio_Reveggie.html

😦

[small fern]

?

never heard of that hoster before

[rigid fog]

yeah

definitely should be a rule

[small fern]

doesn't mean it's shady

[rigid fog]

Only Drive, Dropbox, OneShare

I don't even like Mega

[small fern]

well, they can't favor specific sites

[rigid fog]

Sure they can

It is protecting people

Safety first

[small fern]

if I hosted the file myself, I'd be shady?

[rigid fog]

Of course

[small fern]

I mean, technically I could do that

[rigid fog]

You could change the file at any time

we know this

[small fern]

I wouldn't know

😄

[rigid fog]

Ofc, you dates would change

[small fern]

what dates, where

[rigid fog]

but, people might not catch that

who has time to fucking really worry about this shit

that's the problem

[small fern]

well

download all submissions on deadline will fix all these issues

[rigid fog]

heh

someone actually submitted an iOS game

[small fern]

sure, some might get like 1-2h advantage if it's megajam, as there's a lot to download

[rigid fog]

I was like, where the hell was the .exe

it took me a second to figure out what I was looking at

[small fern]

also android game ;p

you know, the cardboard VR one

heh, the Muse was hosted on github

[glass fossil]

http://join.unrealslackers.org

[rigid fog]

!invite

sweet

all extracted

[rigid fog]

Finale stream

https://www.twitch.tv/victorburgos_

[upbeat wren]

To make up for my pathetic game, here is the amazing sound track we made for it, https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxHVvgthGKySV19fZ3YtajduWHM/view?usp=sharing

[ashen meadow]

yo link to your text file @rigid fog

pastebin or something

[rigid fog]

hmm

k

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzdtzBcQ5vxsOUlPLUtpYVZMUUU/view?usp=sharing

[ashen meadow]

thanks man

[rigid fog]

👍

[ashen meadow]

you doing a VR round tomorrow?

[rigid fog]

I think I will do the VR encore session tomorrow yes

[ashen meadow]

super tired?

ha ha

ive really enjoyed jumping in and out over the weekend

good stuff

its just always on!

[rigid fog]

Eh yeah

Energy was fine when I first woke up yesterday, but aye, as the day went on, I died

That and some of the games kind of wore me out mentally

The good and bad ones 😃

I wish allar the very best, he's going to have to play each and every one of them more legit than I did

[robust basalt]

playing all jam games just seems like a shitty job to me. I would instantly quick after the second action game without screenshake

😄

[rigid fog]

lol @robust basalt

Why do you like screenshake so much?

You just think it adds something?

[robust basalt]

something? it adds everything

[rigid fog]

lol

matter of opinion

I don't mind it left out

Actually, it probably better for me

if it is

[robust basalt]

for motion sickness or what?

[rigid fog]

aye

[robust basalt]

I get sick of everything, screenshake is not on that list though

[rigid fog]

I can't believe @stable kiln rekt me so bad

I was literally going to throw up all over my PC and Mic

I had to get up and go to the bathroom

[robust basalt]

I know that feeling, sucks

a year ago or so I played Satellite Reign

it is an isometric camera game

and they had camera sway

[rigid fog]

That the X-COM wannabe?

[robust basalt]

yeah

[rigid fog]

Ok

[robust basalt]

I felt sick for hours

[rigid fog]

Damn

Yeah, it's crazy

Sometimes I am perfectly fine

But others not so much

I need to do some proper reseach on it

I would like to make sure that I don't design shit like that either

[robust basalt]

best thing if you get motion sickness yourself

you can find it early on in the process 😄

[rigid fog]

ya

[robust basalt]

same for me for color blindness

[rigid fog]

Make sure to play the ones I put as contenders if you haven't @robust basalt

Those are the cream of the crop

[robust basalt]

still have to play #130

[rigid fog]

diamonds in all that rough

[robust basalt]

was it good?

[rigid fog]

...

Was it good

I think he's either some super genius

or some super cheater

lol

[robust basalt]

it doesn't have a picture or something

[rigid fog]

I mean, at first, I was like...wtf is this shit...

[robust basalt]

I though you trolled me again

😄

[small fern]

@robust basalt I hope you don't think motion blur is mandatory 😄

[rigid fog]

And then... before you know it..I was fucking all into that shit

[small fern]

I tend to like subtle effects

[rigid fog]

@robust basalt He didn't have a pic ?

I thought he did

[small fern]

for example, camera shake on racing games is ok, but if it's floating all over the place, I'll just switch view

[rigid fog]

Should show the board

[robust basalt]

oh, there it is

[rigid fog]

But anyway, it was a really well done puzzle and fit the theme well

You should play that now

[robust basalt]

downloading

[rigid fog]

It should take you about 30mins if you are good 😉

It's not something you can really just spam and get lucky

The stupid pieces have physics on them

so, they fall off the table...

and you're SOL

So be careful with that 😃

I got 8 top contenders, while it's completely subjective, I really don't think anything else could compete with them

Unless it's some category I didn't think about

But I have solo, under 100mb and theme connection, with art

they all did so well, it's going to be a crapshoot

Anyway, need some sleep, have fun, tell me how you liked it!

@small fern did you play 130 yet?

if not, do it

[small fern]

what was it?

[rigid fog]

handkor's puzzle game

[small fern]

don't think so

[rigid fog]

play it

you'll enjoy it

it definitely requires some thinking

[small fern]

not sure if I'd enjoy it then

[rigid fog]

lol

[small fern]

I didn't even beat the other puzzlers

[rigid fog]

what?

lol

[small fern]

got stuck at the fancy art music game

[rigid fog]

I won't lie, some of those puzzlers were hard as hell

[small fern]

the one where you had to mash buttons to solve things when they didn't work like you thought they'd work

[rigid fog]

Yeah the one I button mashed?

lolol

[small fern]

yeah

I did that too

and got forward

[rigid fog]

But it didn't work?

[small fern]

but it didn't work on next puzzle =d

[rigid fog]

lmfao

[small fern]

I really don't think it worked properly

I played the notes just right

[rigid fog]

TBH, I don't know either

[small fern]

also

[rigid fog]

But slap said he beat it I thought

[small fern]

I didn't figure the office machine thing

[rigid fog]

not sure if he button mashed

[small fern]

I got it assembled

[rigid fog]

office machine?

lmfao

oh that one

[small fern]

the box thing

[rigid fog]

that was hard too

[small fern]

yeah

I got it powered and all

but after that

nada

[rigid fog]

These mofos made some stupid hard puzzles

[small fern]

well, it's not a good puzzle if it's an ui thing

I really dislike bad UX

[rigid fog]

Oh I agree

[small fern]

if it's to you to figure something out, with fair conditions, then it's all good

[rigid fog]

It was fun figuring it out though

It just depends on the type of player you are

[small fern]

I'd ask how that machine powered up but then again, there's no way I'm going to assemble that again =d

[rigid fog]

Typically I don't like puzzle games

but fuck, there were like 20+ of them

[small fern]

hey

[rigid fog]

I kind of had no choice

[small fern]

at least I beat the pattern game

where you cheated ;D

[rigid fog]

pattern?

[small fern]

the add subtract thing

[rigid fog]

oh

yeah, because I didn't do it on paper

I just gave up on that one

lol

[small fern]

it would have nice last puzzle

like properly hard

[rigid fog]

tbh, if you have to do a puzzle on paper...your game is eh

Even Fez...

Fez omfg...

[small fern]

but difficulty just suddenly ramped up

[rigid fog]

FML Fez...

The horror stories I could tell you

I mean, great game and all, but shit...

[small fern]

I got bored after first level of FEZ

can't tell much

I didn't get the appeal at all

[rigid fog]

Ah, yeah, it takes some patience for sure

I think it's more for sadist

sadists

People who like to figure out tough ass shit

But anyway, I really don't like a 100% puzzle game

I never finished portal...

don't kill me

or 2

I should though

[small fern]

oh

those were great ;p

[rigid fog]

wtf @onyx hare you guys going to OiX?!!!

[small fern]

portal 2 co-op was great too

[rigid fog]

damn I missed OiX this weekend too

ah wells

[small fern]

I'd make portal based game jam entry, but I suck at creating fun puzzles

[rigid fog]

Haha @small fern

Do you think you can do the correct physics?

[small fern]

?

what you mean

like through portals?

sure

[rigid fog]

ya

[small fern]

there's no difficulty on that

basically you just get the ingoing velocity and then translate it to outgoing direction

it solves itself automatically

[rigid fog]

if you are lacking in something, that is when you just team up with someone who isn't lacking that area 😉

[small fern]

yeah, I'm lacking the idea guy it appears 😄

[rigid fog]

Well be careful the idea guy doesn't kick you off the repo

[small fern]

😄

[rigid fog]

Too soon?

[small fern]

well, I've had my own share of idea guys (and girls)

always vocal, never do anything

[robust basalt]

#130 is really good

😄

[small fern]

I'll give it a go

ha

he did 32bit <100MB thing too

huh

screenshots look scary

oh well, the whole process froze 😄

had to reboot to get rid of it

[robust basalt]

now sure how to beat #130

trying to kill the slumlord to prevent the fire, but I just don't get it 😦

[onyx hare]

@rigid fog yeah, Remi is showing off Floppy there. It's the first time we're showing it publically, and apparently people are loving it :)

[dusky python]

@rigid fog　
Thank you for comment to the game.
I think that as.
I'll do my best next.

[radiant meadow]

Link to Victor's playthrough spreadsheet. It's just a start because of stuff & things that are taking time to do away from this. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SszqD3Z51XdwQ2T6CvDosvWNBXn574hHuV5d7JJZF-Y/edit?usp=sharing

Allar's will be linked as soon as it's started.

[loud basalt]

@rigid fog I watched your saved stream where you played my game, I think the goal of the game didn't come through clearly 😦 the cutscene explained what to do but there was no indication as you played of how well you were doing or what you did wrong/right, and also right at the deadline our music setup died, each note gets introduced into the music track as you obtain them, in the end we just switched them all on to use as background music to make the deadline 😛 (Of Musical Minions & Singing Scores) The idea is you hear a note as it 'escapes', then you have to locate that note by jumping on the animated objects, if you hear a cello note and get a horn one it's "varied" but if you get a frog croak it's "wrong" for example

[tepid light]

so, for those who played more than a few games... What is your favorite so far?

[robust basalt]

#130

and kickback

and the horror game on page 4 or 5

[sharp berry]

Oh shit its Allar playtrough

[small fern]

@loud basalt oh you are here after all :)

I'm rizu btw

[pearl roost]

Is Allar streaming his playthrough? if so, do you know when?

[acoustic glacier]

monday

[rigid fog]

@robust basalt lol

did you finally beat it or watched my play?

[robust basalt]

nope

gave up

[rigid fog]

lol

Yeah, that was a good one

Once I figured it out...it told a story

it was really good

[small fern]

I didn't get it to even launch

it just never opened and then the process was stuck

I couldn't even manually kill the process from task manager 😄

[robust basalt]

do you have to kill the slumlord somehow?

[small fern]

had to reboot

[robust basalt]

all I could get was the piano accident

or car crash

but neither kill him

[rigid fog]

@onyx hare Ah okay. Glad people are enjoying it!

Yeah, you had to rethink the kills/saves a bit

the piano accident IS what kills him

but that's the only hint I'll throw out there

Just remember, you have to save the good people, while all the baddies die

@dusky python Hehe, it's fine. It would just be nice to see something fresh and new next time!

[robust basalt]

then I think mine was bugged

or I couldn't figure out the last bit

had everything set up

had him collect rent on the piano day

didn't work

[rigid fog]

@radiant meadow Thanks for the playthrough list, but it's not really needed, Allar's stream is tomorrow. Get some reset before then 😉

@robust basalt on what day did the doctor crash her car?

Or did you know she had to crash her car 😉

Okay so, I'll spoil it now. Wish we had spoil alerts... but... do NOT read this if you want to play #130... doctor has to crash her car on day one.

[robust basalt]

why on day one?

[rigid fog]

You'll see

it was ingenious

[robust basalt]

k, trying again

[rigid fog]

tbh, just because I gave away beginning and end, doesn't mean the middle is any easier

[robust basalt]

I think I had hid all figured out, just couldn't kill the slumlord

and at that point it felt a bit too trial and error like

[rigid fog]

Hah

it took me awhile to realize stuff was changing up top

I didn't think anything was affecting the slumlord

So I guess that's the last hint, the black text does change.

[robust basalt]

deleting it if I knock one more thing of the table though...

not sure why the collision was necessary

[rigid fog]

@loud basalt Oh, you did the music note collecting one, yeah, I thought it was a cute game overall, lots of charm and effort put into it. As for the cutscene, TBH, after watching so many bad ones, I might have unconsciously tuned it out, but I thought I remember laughing a bit at it. But, I was probably focusing on the character design and not what was being said. But yeah, there was no real feedback for the player when the tunes were coming out. Even still, minor flaws, really good game.

and you liked the scary ass game @robust basalt ?

;p;

[robust basalt]

well it was well made, kinda

art style was really solid

[rigid fog]

Man, I admit, it was good, because it did what it should have, and it scared me.

[robust basalt]

monochromatic

looked solid

and it was kinda scary

[rigid fog]

But, what was the theme connection tie in?

[robust basalt]

didn't really fit the theme

yeah

[rigid fog]

I mean, obviously I've had to debate enough over the past few days about theme connections

That is why I stopped talking about it on stream

and not writing it in reviews

[robust basalt]

to be honest, with a theme like that

where everything with a score in it kinda loosely connects to the theme

[rigid fog]

Yeah, that was the problem really

too loose, many interpretations, many people stretching their interpretations to fit

[robust basalt]

well it is a game jam though

as long as you have fun, learn something and are not just in it to get some prizes

I don't really care

as long as there is a bit of a connection

[rigid fog]

Hmm

But in your case, anyone could have done something up in less than an hour (and there were such projects), while having fun, and had some connection and it be a valid submission 😃

But obviously it was for a raffle prize

[robust basalt]

well raffle prizes will always attract games like that

nothing you can do

having a chance to win a $600 nuc for a few hours of work

sure sounds like a good deal

[sharp berry]

I hope my game didnt came over like a made-in-1-hour game

[small fern]

@robust basalt did you see the game that did that and had registered domain? :D

[rigid fog]

@sharp berry #?

[robust basalt]

I don't think so

[small fern]

Pretty sure domain was existing though, just reused for jam

[rigid fog]

I'm rolling through some of my playthroughs, to see how stupid I look

The number of times I say WTF in a minute is astonishing

[sharp berry]

Game #17 - Take it to Court

[robust basalt]

good code review metric

wtf's/minute

[rigid fog]

But, there are two kinds of WTFs though

[small fern]

"You're a liar" was probably pretty well used too ;D

[rigid fog]

I said that?

[quiet dawn]

are there game jam results yet?

[rigid fog]

no...

[quiet dawn]

or when are they gonna come?

[small fern]

Need to wait 2 weeks

[rigid fog]

we said this a zillion times already 😉

Why you keep asking the same thing?

Two weeks

[sharp berry]

Its always 2 weeks after jam deadline for the results..

[quiet dawn]

I am sorry, I do not read every single message that is send in this chat 😄

[rigid fog]

No, but you've asked this question more than once already

Your name is hard to forget 😃

[quiet dawn]

I am pretty sure I didn't ask anything after the deadline

[rigid fog]

@robust basalt It took my 40mins to beat 130

[quiet dawn]

I asked once when the deadline was because I thought it was tuesday

but w/e thanks for your answer

[rigid fog]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[robust basalt]

can you give me time stamp?

I am sick of knocking off the thingies

can't take it anymore 😄

but still wanna know the solution

[rigid fog]

https://www.twitch.tv/victorburgos_/v/95104022

3:32 it starts

[robust basalt]

thx

[rigid fog]

4:10 it ends

4:13*

[robust basalt]

I also hate the 3d UI in this

[rigid fog]

and I was wrong

[robust basalt]

not* sure why the text is beneath he figures

[rigid fog]

I actually changed it

but originally the car crash was in the beginning of the week for half the game

Aye, I agree, there were some stuff that can be improved upon

[robust basalt]

also a small tutorial level would have been good

[rigid fog]

I couldn't tell the story at the end tho

[robust basalt]

took me 5minutes to realize the text changes when you drop stuff the right way

[rigid fog]

He restarts game too fast after you win 😦

[robust basalt]

if you didn't tell me the game was good

I would have probably just quit

and never played it again

[rigid fog]

lol

Yeah, I mean I took 40 mins to play it

If a puzzle game can keep my attention that long...it has something special

I gotta find my Sub Reigns play, dev was complaining I wasn't playing it right

[robust basalt]

you cannot not play somethign right or wrong

tell him he deved it wrong

lol

[rigid fog]

But pretty sure that was the game that didn't even pass the start screen

[small fern]

oh

I just watched first few minutes

looks like nice puzzle

[rigid fog]

oh what?

oh

[small fern]

130

[rigid fog]

Hehe

Yeah man

It's good

[robust basalt]

yeah, it's a nice logic puzzle

[small fern]

love that kind of puzzles

[rigid fog]

don't watch it if you want to play

I think it's a good brain teaser

[small fern]

yeah, I'll give it a second try

first try didn't let me play the game :p

[robust basalt]

reminded me of the puzzles we had to write solvers for

in logic class

like Fox, goose and bag of beans puzzle

river crossing

or bridges of koenigsberg or however that is called in english

the only thing I didn't like (besides the obvious UI flaws) is the trial and error approach you need

[rigid fog]

Well

I like it because it tells a story regardless

[small fern]

this ui though

[rigid fog]

Even if it is the wrong one

[small fern]

he misses 1st rule of mouse zoom

[rigid fog]

Like, there are multiple outcomes, not all correct

[small fern]

you need to zoom INTO the cursor location

and out of it

[rigid fog]

teach me 0lento

oh

[acoustic glacier]

maya gets that wrong

[small fern]

that would make it lot easier to navigate

you don't have to pan at all if you do that

just zoom in and out, boom

[rigid fog]

Same thing with the damn card game I played

lol, man, I got distracted so easily, especially when I started getting hungry towards the end of page 4

[small fern]

I don't like how the table updates after each drop

[rigid fog]

?

[small fern]

and then the text is still the same

[rigid fog]

I liked it

Told me if I was doing something right or wrong

[small fern]

no

I mean

[robust basalt]

it updates everytime

[small fern]

it updates the same text too

[robust basalt]

regarless if somethign changes or not

[small fern]

so it's hard to tell what changed

yeah

[robust basalt]

changes text size and stuff

[small fern]

yeah

[rigid fog]

Oh, I see what you mean now

Yeah

[small fern]

that's distracting

[robust basalt]

honestly, the whole UI thing is stupid

having the text below the thing you drop

[rigid fog]

How would you have doneit?

[robust basalt]

just 2D

click into the day in the calender

right click for bad thing

left click for good thing

click again to remove

[rigid fog]

I see, that is a way to do it

but people double click a lot

out of habit

While I agree the UI could use some cleanup, I don't think the original intention is flawed, I was able to play it just fine

And beat it eventually

[robust basalt]

it is playable

but the UI just worked against me

the only source of frustration, really

if you drop something and you can't see if the text below it changed or not

then pick it up to read it and it goes back to what is was before

just not a good solution

[rigid fog]

If anything, what could be done instead is, auto snapping

[small fern]

has also bugs

[rigid fog]

the piece can shrink and snap to a corner

[robust basalt]

and of course the knocking of thingies

[small fern]

wife keeps getting notes even when she's dead

[rigid fog]

wife got notes?

[small fern]

"Husband wrecked my piano, had enough of him"

[rigid fog]

damn I didn't even see that

[small fern]

but she was already dead the day before

[rigid fog]

oh

[acoustic glacier]

ghosting up in this hoousseee

[small fern]

also the beater can beat the dead wife 😄

[rigid fog]

well, he is a wife beater

and there is no mortuary

so, no one got the body

intended feature

[small fern]

I don't get it

I'm DM, to not spoil more

[robust basalt]

ah, pizza

[small fern]

hmmm

[upbeat wren]

You only get something such as tshirts for the jam if you manage to get into the top dont you? I havent sent my details in as requested due to knowing i wont get anywhere with my entry

[acoustic glacier]

aw

you get badges and a sticker as well!

[upbeat wren]

Haha yeah but i wont get any of them with my entry

[acoustic glacier]

and a box that holds it!

well.. a package box thing

[upbeat wren]

@acoustic glacier stop the tease or ill commit hara kiri

[robust basalt]

@rigid fog just watched the resolution

I had everything but the reporter thing

kinda weak, I think

hard to logically make the connection

the only thing really that comes out of the blue

[rigid fog]

lol

I kind of agree on that

But you enjoyed it overall @robust basalt ?

[robust basalt]

yeah

[rigid fog]

What are your top picks so far? Same as mine?

[robust basalt]

haven't play all games

so kinda hard

top I think is kickback

[rigid fog]

Just play the ones I tell you ;l)

But yeah Kickback is #1 theme connection in my book

BadAssBrad is probably #2

both had great gameplay

also

[robust basalt]

I didn't like badassbrad

gameplay

[rigid fog]

Oh no?

Did you play Return Fire?

#20

Hmm, damn forgot Handkor

[robust basalt]

nope

[rigid fog]

Too many good ones

It's a crapshoot

But I think all the games I picked for top contender will get something

the music ones were cute

I have three picked

3 music, 4 non music

[robust basalt]

didn't have a chance to test exi's entry

[rigid fog]

not too bad spread

Ah yeah, I did

[robust basalt]

just saw the trailer and that was kinda meh

[rigid fog]

I am not sure what they focused on personally

There were some connection issues, but overall network play was fine

Gameplay was lacking fun though

On the opposite end

Slapanus and crew, had some fun gameplay

marred with networking issues

I didn't get to play any other MP games though, no support from viewers 😃

So who knows what the others actually hold

[robust basalt]

yeah, making mp games is bit of an issue for jams

[rigid fog]

Aye, too many issues that could happen

[robust basalt]

Settlers of the Score wins the theme connection for name

[rigid fog]

I applaud them all for doing them though

[upbeat wren]

@rigid fog The stream was a good one, long but I was there for the majority

[rigid fog]

lol

Ha, @upbeat wren thanks, but, I realized a few things while I was doing the stream. especially when it came to reviewing them

[upbeat wren]

What were your realizations ?

[rigid fog]

It's also hard to be "engaging" while playing some of these games

I need to come up with a proper review sheet

[robust basalt]

how was drone war, btw?

[rigid fog]

I've already had thoughts, I will use the criteria we use for our School Projects

[robust basalt]

that looked awesome, didn't it play it though

[rigid fog]

Drone War?

[robust basalt]

#71

[rigid fog]

short and sweet I said

let me see if I can remember

Oh

[robust basalt]

didn't play, but looks somewhat satisfying and polished

[rigid fog]

It wasn't anythign special

Yeah um, tbh, it looks like a reskin

Just something the guy was working on and slapped on a new start screen

There were a lot of those that kind of looked suspicious

Especially the halloween themed ones...

Also @upbeat wren trying to playthrough so many games right after doing a 24 hours crunch jam entry wasn't a good idea

[upbeat wren]

You did look rather tired towards the end, just a wee bit haha, you went through what, 150 games?

[rigid fog]

I think I skimped out on roughly 20ish games due to MP and VR

If I get enough schoolwork and regular work done today, I'll stream the VR entries. But, maybe not, Allar starts his tomorrow.