Would suggest zip over rar, since more people have it, but the link works now
#game-jam-chat
glass fossil
small fern
people help others on discord all the time
sullen flume
It works. Compressing, and uploading
mint flint
I dunno but the underlying reason is the automatic optimization doesnt check the correct box when building out the shader is all
small fern
but it's guaranteed to open anywhere
sweet flame
zip is built in win
glass fossil
for compatibility reasons zip is the safe choice, since otherwise you don't know if they have 7z on their pc, even though they totally should 😃
small fern
yeah
I always just use zip for that reason
just put maximum compression on zip settings
well
pearl roost
is anyone doing a stream where they play the games?
rigid fog
@silver swan where the IDEA guy at?
small fern
there used to be some zip compression setting you should have avoided
sullen flume
YES! It's uploaded!
foggy shard
no ui no gameplay
sullen flume
Not that I will win or anything, but it's still a great achievement for myself, that I managed to pull this off 😃
small fern
@sullen flume \o/
small fern
404
stable kiln
seems like my gdrive is trippin
sweet flame
It feel like i forgot something 😄 I have this feeling after every game jam 😄
pearl roost
1,026 items later, @dire heart and I are done with our game lol https://gyazo.com/ea86ff854ab8714f43dec1ed40be6bf2
rigid fog
grats @pearl roost @sullen flume
small fern
yeah
sullen flume
Thanks guys, and Grats for everyone who managed to finish it, and of course to those who didn't because I am sure, they learned a lot from this experience
Because I did
glass fossil
@pearl roost Allar is going to stream playing all the games on the 17th
sullen flume
nice
glass fossil
it'll be over the course of like 3 days or so yep
frail palm
He's not streaming today?
glass fossil
he's at steam dev days
rigid fog
@frail palm start streaming
small fern
he's at steam dev days
rigid fog
If not, I will
small fern
heh, late
sullen flume
187 submissions so far
glass fossil
tried to make a Mac build for the game, xcode complains about missing metal shader, R.I.P. mac version
only happens on 4.13
4.12 has always been fine
rigid fog
Macs...
small fern
currently about 185 submissions
unless there's been more extra talk on submission thread
I didn't check later pages
on page 3 some got sidetrackd
or was it 2
huh
foggy shard
huh package is like 87mb
small fern
it doesn't look like there will be 400 submissions after all
more like same amount as last year
unless everyone is submitting late
small fern
191 posts on submission thread atm
foggy shard
and i didn't do anything special for it
small fern
2 were from epic
rigid fog
#175
small fern
and 3 at least were offtopic
small fern
heh
just read that
Recommended at least 6 people up to 12 maximum.
that'll be fun to playtest
rigid fog
Those Matinees though
So many First Time Posters: https://gyazo.com/4407d81009b76105b7c7146877c9585f
frigid mist
the people
that post only one time
scares me
this si even worst
posted 3 times
and is jam finalist
looks like some pro devs come here to troll the rest
glass fossil
huh, the art looks pretty good in that shot
rigid fog
Yeah
small fern
@frigid mist that guy has been 3 times game jam finalist
rigid fog
If you have more than one person on a team...
small fern
made only 3 posts
frigid mist
@small fern that is not possible
small fern
it is
small fern
he's not submitted the posts for each winning entry
rigid fog
I don't even know who he is
small fern
he has star on the badge
rigid fog
Never heard of him
small fern
me either
small fern
but you don't get the star badge with 2 game jam wins
glass fossil
It could be a different team member did the post each time
frigid mist
lol
rigid fog
Beard Envy sounds familiar tho
small fern
someone else from the team has submitted the entry in past with him in team
frigid mist
@warped zephyr nice promo here https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?124973-Epic-MegaJam-Submission-Thread&p=608844&viewfull=1#post608844
well the game of that guy is the best looking atm
hard silo
ouch. 22 late submissions in that thread And some of those looked good too.
small fern
late?
frigid mist
there are lot of people with one post
hard silo
small fern
I like how Alex and Chance just keep talking to make the deadline go further out
hard silo
its past
tepid light
I decided to go solo since there is a special reward for that.. But doing my game with a team would be so much easier.
uneven basin
no, as mentioned deadline is until the end of the stream
uneven basin
stream hits offline, you're late
small fern
that timer was just till stream start time
rigid fog
TBH, I would love to get a solid team together every month.
uneven basin
would love to get a solid team
sweet flame
I would love to do a team project, but I don't want to do it remotely.
small fern
they still keep dropping there
frigid mist
http://res.cloudinary.com/tall-ship-studio/image/upload/v1476381007/DBD_Splash_uwcttv.png this guy will win the speedtree price
uneven basin
every time I meet a game dev in here I ask what kind of games they make "yea so we have this awesome mobile pro.." walk away
small fern
well
frigid mist
I have to play that games
small fern
finnish gamedev industry is all about mobile
frigid mist
this game will win the Substance price https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?124973-Epic-MegaJam-Submission-Thread&p=608887&viewfull=1#post608887
small fern
only handfull of higher profile companies here that don't do mobile
rigid fog
Heh
small fern
also
rigid fog
It's interesting seeing studios partaking in this though
small fern
most mobile gamedev companies around here use unity :p
small fern
why not?
rigid fog
Can't be the prizes.
sweet flame
for fun
small fern
^
small fern
I dunno why it should be any different
frigid mist
@small fern there are many games this time using Unity Marketplace content
small fern
they still attend as individuals
rigid fog
Not as individuals, if you have your whole team/studio in the group 😉
rigid fog
lol
rigid fog
Oh, that, who knows man
small fern
yeah we saw it
sweet flame
I'm going to be an idealist in this case and believe that they have no reason to cheat
rigid fog
😃
frigid mist
uneven basin
I should have made better banner icon
frigid mist
There are games missing
sweet flame
Not everybody makes it
frigid mist
@small fern where is yours ?
haha @rigid fog there is one called "*** You Killed My Cow ***"
do you see need cows as I told you
uneven basin
I wanted to add cows/bulls to my game
but Kinda ran out of time
as it would have needed animations
small fern
@frigid mist I ditched the original thing I was working on and didn't feel like restarting from scratch for last 2-2,5 days
frigid mist
oh okay
rigid fog
hehe, people are just dumping stuff now
small fern
ah
wind aspen
I wasn't able to upload my final version of what I made
uneven basin
Sky has fallen
small fern
@somber hazel did you blacklist EngineSky ?
sweet flame
Every time I'm making jam entry I realize how much I suck at lighting.
somber hazel
I didn't touch anything, except getting rid of StaticLighting
somber hazel
Under Project Settings. Rendering, Lighting, you can actually remove all the static lighting
but I think it broke my sphere
somber hazel
nvm, Im stupd, it was set on static 😄
small fern
I don't do lightmass
somber hazel
I think this should work now
glass fossil
tepid light
that PC has a unreal logo 😃 I need that
small fern
everyone just wants the case 😄
rigid fog
Aye
tepid light
Well, I prefer the insides
tepid light
I still use gtx 770 😦
small fern
reminds me from the scene in Wall-e
where he finds a diamond ring in a box, looks at it, throws ring away, keeps the box
tepid light
hehe
foggy shard
uploaded my unfinished thing
small fern
yay, you finished too 😃
tepid light
we are under 200 games... I hoped it would me more
small fern
not sure why you discloded the textures if you made them yourself though
small fern
I would have just mentioned the tools separately
small fern
yeah, it's ok though
it's clear what you mean
or well
basically you still did the music and textures yourself
just used those tools to help you
foggy shard
yeah
i not sure shold i add HSL node that i created before?
I not sure if it's very important coz it's like defult RBGA merge but HSL
uploaded just in time
this like first thing i did in ue4 that isn't tutorial or research
small fern
heh
foggy shard
well i happy that i am uploaded even if it's isn't complite
tepid light
very intense
small fern
over 50% gave up 😄
tepid light
i think we just had more people preregister than normal
as in people why try to jam but dont preregister usually
small fern
gotta wonder if preregistration helps now though
glass fossil
Super worthwhile week
small fern
as they'll have more people getting removed from the list than submitted anything
glass fossil
don't regret taking the vacation time at all
foggy shard
i did everything except textures first time 😃
rigid fog
Pre registration was alright
THe problem that a lot of people are forgetting is HurricaneMatthew
I am sure a lot of the US East Coast devs, dropped out.
somber hazel
hm... I give up fixing my game :3
proven badge
anyone wanna help us test out the game? 😄
rigid fog
And the West Coast ones were at Steam Dev Days
proven badge
did not had time to run it properly
rigid fog
@proven badge test?
somber hazel
Slapunas, here!
rigid fog
Let's play
rigid fog
a lot
glass fossil
theirs is the one that requires 6-12 people
foggy shard
ok i am going to work now
sharp berry
Anyone doing a playtrough?
austere glade
u play my taxi game yet? v)
if u do.. get the v1.1 i posted 7 hours ago. much better
tepid light
is that the first one?
hmm
I played it
is it just driving people or does it expand the gameplay?
austere glade
ya thats mine
the idea is you buy additional cars and enable self drive mode
then its a clicker game to keep them in service while you continue to drive to keep your bonus up
... it seemed a lot more fun in my head :)
tepid light
Visual style is ok. I would put the camera a bit further back
austere glade
yes good point. you can mouse wheel but i didnt put enough time into canera
scrambled to get that done cuz of dev days.. was able to crack out a patch this morning
rigid fog
DLed yours @desert sun
glass fossil
https://www.twitch.tv/victorburgos_
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small fern
that topic though
glass fossil
Turns out when I remove the starter content from the build, it goes down to like 280mb unpackaged from 820mb
small fern
yeah, wouldn't wonder
sharp berry
blacklist the StarterContent folder in Packaging settings
small fern
you could also just migrate your project into blank project if you wanted to take only parts you used
I have "Temp" folder which I blacklist
then I can do all kinds of testing under that
or not blacklist, I just exclude that
it doesn't even cook those
if you blacklist, things get cooked still, just ignored when putting them into pak
austere glade
my wifi sucks i cant watch the stream
small fern
well
stream keeps buffering / breaking me now
wonder if it's an issue on @rigid fog 's end or with twitch
anyone else having issues?
glass fossil
it seems fine here
small fern
ok
hmmm
it buffers every minute for me
even now
used to work fine in the beginning
wonder if windows is secretly using all my bandwith or something :p
small fern
victor just played your game 😃
austere glade
have fun??
small fern
he broke it 😄
austere glade
lolol cant wait to watch the replay
small fern
first cars piled up so he couldn't drive through
glass fossil
the ocean is not very friendly to cars 😆
small fern
then he got stuck in the ocean
austere glade
lol
austere glade
i had fun making it. thats all that counts. i learned a lot too
austere glade
alex said over 200 on twitter
small fern
@austere glade yeah, that's most important thing, and you were first to finish too 😄
I was bit curious about the theme connection though
velvet echo
submission thread doesn't have 200 in it
velvet echo
is that counting all the pointless chatter?
small fern
I was estimating it would go to 200 on stream and Alex just spotted that from chat
austere glade
i went into the jam wanting to make that game
glass fossil
@austere glade totally a good attitude to have, same one here, just wanted to learn a lot
small fern
I counted 3 post of off topic and 2 from starting posts
but I didn't check all the pages
austere glade
tried to frame it as taxi driver getting revenge by getung unto uber and seld driving cars.. but meh
small fern
yeah, it's all good 😃 just curious if I missed something there
velvet echo
scallywag squabble look good from the banner
austere glade
ya
small fern
it was pretty buggy on real life networking though
but that's what you get with ue4 networked physics I guess?
still bit curious how that would play on LAN
where latencies play no role
austere glade
thats why i went single player this time.. u spend so much time doing network coding.. plus building ur dedicated
small fern
it's risky alright
even if you did just characters that are supposed to work well on unreals MP
I'd want to make a vehicle game myself, almost did on one of the previous jams but editor kept just freezing on me and didn't feel like doing things blindly
usually themes just don't give me any ideas that would support that kind of gameplay
so far I've tried to do things that I don't usually do and end up not finishing
although even if I did vehicle physics, I'd still try something new there to lose my advantage with it 😄
austere glade
im going to use the epic mega jam as my yearly "take a break from my main game to prototype one of those games in back of my head" phases
so im mostly just gonna ignore the theme lol
velvet echo
last one was 2 years ago, if they are doing it yearly that is great
velvet echo
i will take a week off work each year and enter something
small fern
and there's been 2 years of ue4 game jams
mint flint
everyday should be a jam!
small fern
jam day every day
velvet echo
that would be great if i didn't have to work and spend time with my family
i could forget the work if i didn't need money, but not the family
austere glade
yea 1 jam a year is good enuff for me
small fern
tbh, even monthly jams are fine
mint flint
I've got both and I still manage to do it 😃
small fern
3.5 days is half a week
velvet echo
i've got both and managed to do it too
mint flint
no I mean daily
austere glade
never not jam
mint flint
Always be Jammin' mon
velvet echo
i'm not always making games, but i am always doing something game dev related
mint flint
awesome
proven badge
Thanks to everyone who helped me test the game, it was a bit overwhelming with that ammount of ppl
also huge balancing issues 😄
pine fulcrum
100 people?
proven badge
oh no, not that many
game is limited for up to 12
but it was a mess ;D
Word of advice, when playtesting it on stream, get ppl on discord, and split them into 2 channels based on team,. Otherwise you're gonna have hard time managing your herd ... i mean crew
pine fulcrum
Ayyyy
uneven basin
ay..?
proven badge
yarr
velvet echo
twitch ads are breaking my twitch
have to watch on ipad because i can't watch on computer
austere glade
i coudlnt watch on my smartphone
velvet echo
and i'm sick of the jack reacher ad that keeps stopping
frail palm
I felt soo tired from that game jam.
frail palm
What game are you playing?
proven badge
anyone managed to beat that flute game?
or harmonica
that mouth blowing instrument used in western alot 😄
proven badge
yeah
rigid fog
But fuck that puzzle
proven badge
gonna go get pen too
rigid fog
You playing that puzzle game too @proven badge ?
proven badge
harmonica one
rigid fog
ah
small fern
the symbols left to the door, blue ones are only ones that you can subtract, or more of, 2 of them
proven badge
muscial puzzle
rigid fog
Sometime you have to go old school
small fern
but I can't figure any combo that would work with just one subtraction
rigid fog
Lots of games that went music
Interesting perspective
@small fern either you need two or 3 subs
Or this is a fail puzzle
small fern
nah
you literally can't use anything but the ones on left from the puzzle door
all others will remove too much
unless these stack up somehow
but they sure didn't before
so if it does that
it changes it's on logic on fly
ha
got it !
also, discord seems to be having issues
pen and paper did it
well, he got his revenge
proven badge
Anyone played OPUS?
frail palm
@proven badge I have a bit. Some parts became laggy for me to play. It was an interesting game.
velvet echo
i'm guessing discord was only broken for me
velvet echo
i noticed that so i restarted it, and it wouldn't connect for ages
small fern
and have had messages to fail for a quite a bit now
it seems to work now again though
velvet echo
yeah, i think the host died
upbeat wren
@proven badge So when are you bringing scallywag squabble to full production release? this demo needs more, MORE!!!!
proven badge
uhh
upbeat wren
it's awesome lol
proven badge
probably never
upbeat wren
shame, it's great fun 😛
proven badge
omg this game
I was playing a bugged build all along
launched bug free
completed whole game in 10 min
lmao
velvet echo
i dozed off at the computer. i think i missed a little sleep doing the jam
upbeat wren
Despite the huge team issues, inexperience, lack of time... It feels awesome to produce something finally. First ever release.
velvet echo
i can't function without 7-8 hours of sleep a night. i was only sleeping 4-5 a night
frail palm
I Screwd up. there is a bug in my game that I will make the game unbeatable.
glass fossil
is it a gauranteed bug? 😮
frail palm
It a simple Fix.
But I'm not able to update the game once the forums is lock. I can give the updated game if ya'll want.
glass fossil
I was more hoping that it was a bug that can be avoided if you know about it, so that Alex and the other judges could be warned.
frail palm
It can't be helped.
frail palm
yep
ashen meadow
so i should stop running thru outer space
ha ha
your game came out great
looks like you fixed the lighting issues
it is pretty stunning
missed a few of the supergrid textures throughout too
frail palm
What I can do is give ya'll an updated version of what it should happen.
ashen meadow
also the character has this weird piano tie or something?
not sure how to describe it
frail palm
yeah. She was suppose to be a test character. but I've ran out of time any wasn;t able to remove it.
ashen meadow
heh
cant really see it until you are overhead with the camera
i couldve used some more time too
wish it wouldve ended on sunday
10 days
that way you get 2 weekends
of course if it ended on sunday i wouldve been hoping it was 2 weeks, so meh
austere glade
lol im watching @rigid fog play thru of my taxi game.. you found so many bugs lol
ran out of gas but you were able to play with no gas.. you were supposed to die if you went on the water
lololol
youre supposed to click on the car in the garage to refuel and repair it
i have 0 indicators saying to do that tho so my fault
ashen meadow
ha ha
driving across the water was pretty funny
that town pack you used is awesome
that on the marketplace?
austere glade
yep
the map was pretty much the demo map, i just duplicated it and finished it off a bit
ashen meadow
the style or whatever is really cool
austere glade
it was amazing how he found all those bugs lol
i guess you learn a lot watching others play your game lol
austere glade
yea i couldntwatch live i was on the train the wifi wouldnt allow it
ashen meadow
but the feedback is priceless
austere glade
for sure, ill tune in on the next
ashen meadow
allar will break the shit out of it for sure
small fern
when you just play your own game yourself, you know how it works, so you tend to not break it as much
it's weird
small fern
but every time you let someone else play something initially, it breaks into all directions
ashen meadow
it never occurs to me to do it another way
austere glade
i spent so much time on the car upgrade system and passive revenue.. and balancing your earnings - it makes me sad peeps probably wont even get that far
ashen meadow
ha ha
it is amazing to think where the time goes
stupid steam dev days
all i wanted to do was sit back and watch Allar play games tonight
indigo harbor
Made a playthrough video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lbwvnUCsIE
quiet thistle
whaaat the thread is closed???
😢 😢 😢 😢
Im so confused
Normally the gamejams allow you to post a little after
:/
I mean I wouldnt be so upset if they were consistent about it
I cant be the only one thrown off
😐
...spend a week straight programming
for nothing
@ruby cradle Is there anyway I can submit late? I dont even care about the prizes I just wanted to be judged with everyone :/
silver swan
you just got megajammed
silver swan
i would be pissed if they let you post after the deadline
quiet thistle
why? they do it every gamejam
literally
I mean if they had been consistent about it in the past
then at least people would be aware
silver swan
its just the rule for megajam
quiet thistle
thats the main reason im pissed
well its the rule for all the gamejams
and yet, the thread was open
do you not see the inconsistency of it?
its misleading to say the least
ridiculous... Im sorry. Im just gonna keep ranting because Im pissed about it. I had to work really hard because the artists dont know how to use unreal engine so I had to do insane amount of setup. Probably coded well over 2k lines
ashen meadow
im surprised they locked the thread too
quiet thistle
time to drink all the alcohol in the house
ashen meadow
not sure why they dont do that every jam either
quiet thistle
dont even want to finish it now
silver swan
they locked it last year for megajam
ashen meadow
but to be fair it did close like 9 hours ago
quiet thistle
i didnt do megajam last year, but i did like 5 of the last normal monthly gamejams
and not a single time did they lock it
but for this? oh hey we gonna lock it
wait what it closed 9 hours ago?
quiet thistle
well shit
I guess its my fault for not reading more carefully then. I was so used to it being at midnight
I didnt give it a thought
ashen meadow
yeah they changed everything
ashen meadow
they closed it after the thursday stream
quiet thistle
today
ashen meadow
which ended approx 9 hours ago
ashen meadow
they were even joking that they were talking longer to keep it open for a few more minutes
quiet thistle
SIIIIIIIIGH
whatever. I did this for a local VR gamejam in november anyway I guess...
ashen meadow
just post in in the other forum post
quiet thistle
I guess I will
I'll clean it up a little and submit in the other thread
its so badass too... I feel so bad.
silver swan
one of the big skillsets of jamming is knowing when to get things finalized in time to upload it...allar doent usually play games that are past the deadline in regular jams
silver swan
ive seen him not play them
quiet thistle
Ive never seen him not play them, and ive watched his stream like 5 times
silver swan
prob they dint ask maybe, ive watched his stream since he began but not the last 6 or 7
ive also seen him refuse to play updated version from after deadline
quiet thistle
well, Ive never seen it personally. been doing it for quite a long time
its whatever
Im over it
should have read instructions more carefully and not expect it to be midnight like normal gamejams
silver swan
well on the plus side yoou might post a better version of game in separate thread...alex might spotlight it later if you ask him
silver swan
if they did let anyone post late for megajam they would have nearly 200 people who do post on time screaming at them so ican see why they are strict on it....personally i think they should do it every jam
quiet thistle
yeah i agree with you
they should do it every game jam
thats the main reason Im annoyed honestly
I just had this habit, and seemingly mutual understanding... hey its ok to be a little late
but then it changes and its like, you're SOL
oh well!
silver swan
the mega jam is alot harder on the body and mind as well so after a full week of jamming if theres a problem its not fun
quiet thistle
yeah its way harder, im normally burned out from 3 days
but this one? Im just like
no more programming for a month, kthx
@silver swan if you are curious, this is a video i took earlier today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVu3UqKMv8E
I have this like, whole weapon system and shit for editing reload speed, fire rate, damage per bullet, etc....
and drone movement system with splines
rocket launcher and shields for the mech arms and machine gun
theres art i havent put in as well
it was gonna be this sick G Gundam style VR game.... I guess in the end it was just too much to finish up
like all that stuff is functional, i just dont have a level design set up... because the artists dont know UE4
TOO MUCH
silver swan
yeah it looks cool as i said on the plus side if you continue working on it and tell them it was made for the jam they will prob spotlight it on stream
quiet thistle
thanks, appreciate the compliment
ashen meadow
#5 is literally just click a button and you win and/or lose
it counts down 3,2,1 and then you click game over
playing thru the first bunch for a few minutes each
get a quick taste and see whats worth going back
silver swan
he starts later this time i think
velvet echo
the server where i put my game seems to be going slow. oh no
should have just gone with onedrive
@ashen meadow what are you up to?
silver swan
pirate game will prob win that one but they were the only characters that stood out looking at the posts so who knows
stable kiln
i would say the art was strong in that1 yea
dunno if those pirates win from my fishbowl face tho 😛
i haave some advanced morphs 😛
ahh 4got to disclose automotive materials, ahh well i did say prolly some other assets too just to be safe 😛
silver swan
fishbowl face gets my vote
stable kiln
yay 😄
i aint takin no crap from no pixar yo... they got nutin on me 😛
if only i had time for voices, if done right it could have added so much 😛
stable kiln
lol that pic is from fingerbib, it comes in a playlist after donkey rhubarb 😛
my goto inspiration for silly stuff 😛
velvet echo
just got my zbrushcore license
i could probably make a character to get the character award now, oh too late, and not enough skill
foggy shard
with wacom?
i see zbrush core as a way to make new users pay twice and for wacom thing
stable kiln
i think i want zbrush too, altho i like blender for scuplting too
foggy shard
i want 3d coat
stable kiln
im thinking of steppin into that iclone char design contest that been goin for a month with 2 days left 😛
make character, make a seq, should be doable
or i could submit fishbowl face guy
any1 handy with seq want in on this? 😛
velvet echo
i have a wacom tablet already
but also have a cintiq
i wanted 3d coat too, but i think i'll be fine with zbrushcore for now
velvet echo
don't think so
you just have to transfer to another 3d modeller
i have modo which should be good for retopo
blender should be good for it too
foggy shard
but it isn't really
apparently 3d coat better for retopo
small fern
Modo 10.2 has auto retopo
Also regular modos retopo tools are just fine
It is definitely not slow
slim light
Modo has some real cool hard surface stuff
Didnd't know about auto retop!
will have a look at that though I suspect auto anything isn't ideal
small fern
Full version
Indie 10.2 isnt out yet
slim light
just learning a new programis hard
small fern
Indie is a great value, especially if you pick perpetual from those -40% steam sales
Also, zb core feats seem great for the price tag
Regular sculpting is there and that is what zb does best
slim light
It seems geared more towards 3d printing artists to me, it's lacking most of the game relevent stuff
small fern
I wish it had retopo and project tools but other than that, I mainly use same feats that are on core
slim light
though with it and 3dcoat you can get most of the way
3d coat is pretty chepa I think
small fern
Well, I wouldnt do retopo or baking in zb either, or uvs
ZRemesher is exception on some models though
slim light
I thought z rush retopo was pretty good? and the polypaint stuff
small fern
Polypaint isnt ue4 PBR
Nice for stylistic stuff I guess
Proper pbr texturing tools let you paint all PBR channels at once too
My issues with zb tools are that if you get mesh issues of any kind, fixing them in traditional modeler is 100x faster
Could be me noobing
slim light
My main issue it is it's a nightmare to navigate or understand compared to any other 3d package
small fern
Heh
slim light
but I thinkl that's something most people seem to be able to get over
small fern
Well core helps a lot there :D
small fern
They also removed that 2.5d nonsense on core
slim light
so I figure it's possible zbrush just is the way it is for some other reason
small fern
Wish you could disable it on full
slim light
really? I've seen some cool tuts about tiling textures with that
small fern
I never liked mudbox sculpting feel
velvet echo
380 for 3dcoat professional
slim light
yeah but interface wise it made sense
velvet echo
unless you are fine with an edu license and not releasing anything
small fern
Well, 2.5d has few limited uses, but it def shouldnt be on by default, even pixo staff seem to still forget about it on live streams
They noobed with it on last summit too
As you literally have to press the same fricking edit button every time you add the mesh to new canvas
It is a terrible UX decision when you just 3d sculpt 99% of the time
My own percentage would be higher :D
But yeah, zb core doest have that and I'm jelly :D
I didnt like 3d coats sculpting either myself
I tried all the alternatives before zb
Because zb was on it's own price range
3d coats voxel sculpting could be cool for scan cleanups though
As it isnt bound to topology at all
stable kiln
i never rly looked into mudmox or zbrush
small fern
If you like how 3d coat feels and works, it is probably most affordable all around sw out there
No box modeling but heard 3d painting is top notch there, can do pbr, retopo, sculpting
stable kiln
still learn new stuff with blender every time, might be better to just stick to 1 prog when possible
small fern
Yeah, blender is awesome if you have patience to learn it
stable kiln
i still never did any materials in blender tho, allways use unreal for that
blender still looks like an old car compared to UE4
small fern
Some people just cant wrap their minds into blender workflow though
I'm one of those peeps
austere glade
my problem is i dont use it enough to even retain what i learn about it
so im always re-learning commands etc
stable kiln
soo about modelling, any1 that knows audio and seq wunna do that iclone char design contest with me? 😛
some rly good modellers working on their project for weeks, we got 2 days too beat em
tepid light
hello
stable kiln
im thinking a mix of my main char and fishbowl face, stick it on an iclone body and make a retarded cartoon
small fern
@austere glade that is exactly my issue too with it
I always have to google everything again / not worth it
Especially when that doesnt happen to me with other modeling sw
stable kiln
yea blender is hard to get into, where unreal moves the camera like fps blender can really annoy u
rotating around the vert u selected
now i mostly use numpad for camera
stable kiln
havent used modo yet either
velvet echo
but even my last tutor said modo is good for game dev
possibly better than 3ds max
haven't used maya
have only use 3d coat demo
stable kiln
i dont know where maya would beat blender, but i dont think im at that lvl anyways
velvet echo
which was sorta nice, i was going to enter competition with it to win full copy, but i didn't have time
stable kiln
the iclone comp?
velvet echo
3d coat comp
velvet echo
yes, i read that. i haven't got time. need sleep after missing so much doing megajam
back to work next week, need to be rested
they want me to work overtime 😦
stable kiln
2 days might just be enough for what i wunna do
foggy shard
i think i will buy 3d coat eventually
better sculpting then blender
better ui then zbrush
stable kiln
i really suck at sculpt anyways i do it all in edit
stable kiln
just like my drawing, my hand doesnt do what my mind wants
edit is all good for me tho
foggy shard
just learn by reading books
about drawing
there isn't anything special if you know theory
you can't really do it without it
practice will only let you come up with theory in a long way
stable kiln
nah, ill never make a portrait ill be able too sell 😛
velvet echo
@stable kiln have you seen any of the other entries?
stable kiln
ive seen a few
velvet echo
and you think you can beat them?
stable kiln
have u seen fishbowl face guy?
stable kiln
he is in my jamgame 😛
its not like any of those submissions those professional artist are gunna submit
mine is ghetto
can i win one of those prizes... prolly not
who knows tho
would depend on the seq and audio
velvet echo
is iclone free or something?
stable kiln
u get 5 free fbx exports
or something
that animation system of iclone seems really good tho
u can make small run variations in sec where it would take me way long in blender
the character creator is a bit mwahhh if u ask me
rather use bastoni lab blender plugin
foggy shard
i wonder why characters here look so bad http://www.reallusion.com/iclone/iclone_feature.aspx
this one looks good and made in same program https://skfb.ly/TrYu
stable kiln
yea, but that1 doesnt count in competition
btw i love their event style. u get rated on char and tutorial
so there wil be good tutorials there when finished
prizes are pretty hefty, but if u think they get 50 tuts from good modellers thats worth way more
not a huge amount of submissions tho
not like megajam
i still need to check the tut on that female pirate, didnt get to it
well i think he lost me at mudbox, i do remember he used blender for UVs 😃
foggy shard
looks like a lot of work
velvet echo
i'm guessing some haven't completed their entries yet, probably the best ones
stable kiln
mine is in there too, but if i go on ill abort and and go fishbowl style 😛
this1 is mine 😛
but it sux
altho i had the brain lookin pretty wicked in the end its no good
my jam char is way better and has his own style
and was done within an hour 😛
iclone has some weird rig the 20 min i tried to animate it in blender i got nothing done 😛
really need to use the iclone anim prog for it i think
their puppet mode is kinda the bomb tho
proven badge
oh god. feel like I have the worst hangover from 40 hours of nosleep
anyone has any MP jam entries that need testin?. If you do poke me
stable kiln
gj on the pirate game 😃
ruby cradle
Thank you everyone! I'm blown away!
sharp berry
Thank you too @ruby cradle !
sharp berry
Cool computer, looks somewhat like a thin client 😄
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@ruby cradle It would great if you guys ask people to add their game genre into description upon submission. Been hunting for puzzles, only found 2 so far 😦
stable kiln
mine is a puzzle 😃
proven badge
On that note Opus is an awesome game! #129
sharp berry
Mine is somewhat a puzzle too
sharp berry
At least, it was puzzling to @rigid fog when he played it yesterday on the playtrough 😛
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owninanotr
rigid fog
Bad idea to lay down for a "small break" after not sleeping for over 24 hrs
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what's your game post number#
sharp berry
No such thing as a small break when being awake for more then 16 hours :p
sharp berry
For the next jam I'm definitly going to make an action game -.-
proven badge
came up with like 5 cool action game concepts, but coders dismissed those as too ambitious 😦
stable kiln
i downed the trail for that competition, the puppet mode looks good, dunno the pricing
rigid fog
If anything, learn how to actually model characters yourself. It will open up many doors for you
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@stable kiln Concept art is legit 😄
stable kiln
i only checked out that iclone animation program 20 min but it seemed good 😃
@proven badge cant make a game w/o concept art 😛
dull basin
dont like concept art in game jams, got to sit and wait for like a day or two before you get anything to start with 😭
stable kiln
not with my concept art 😛
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@stable kiln What happens when you swtich all the "alien pods" into corret buttons and press the button?... Nothng is happening on my end ;s
stable kiln
ur not correct than
rigid fog
"too ambitious"
stable kiln
i didnt get to put an error sound on the button 😦
rigid fog
Let's do a multiplayer pirateship battle game though
sharp berry
2 days for game jam concepts?
rigid fog
I'm curious as to your other suggestions @proven badge
stable kiln
ur not supposed to put the button on the picture that stands next to the face, would be too easy
stable kiln
and the ai deosnt really have any use 😛
dull basin
theres like more jams for the rest of the year :O!
rigid fog
Pirateship battle isn't original
stable kiln
ahh concept art for a text game 😛
sharp berry
cant wait for the november jam
proven badge
mecahnics we had on the original concept were
;D
this was a very scrope stripped version
sharp berry
I've done 2 "1 room games" in a row, 0 action games, time for a MASACRE, causing amok and discord!
dire heart
We did super simplistic concept art for our game jam game
proven badge
I matched all the pods to their eyes. but nothing happends at the end. besides that eye guy dancing up and down @stable kiln
stable kiln
@proven badge its an eye for an eye 😛
stable kiln
that wall picture with multiple icons just show u there u go with the right combination its not a hint to the combination itself
sharp berry
A bit messy 😛
dire heart
I love it 😄 @sharp berry
sharp berry
Haha thanks 😄
I should continue with my main project, but this jam filled me with new ideas..... 😐
rigid fog
man...
Yandex
Mega
anytime I DL from there...scary
Should make Drive/Dropbox mando for submissions
@proven badge my game is a puzzle game btw
text adventure puzzle 😃
kind of sucks for this guy: https://gyazo.com/a9df5142a8ebf1c27f62838f98778b44
stable kiln
yea, just closed the thread, brutal 😛
rigid fog
@tepid light oh snap
tepid light
?
tepid light
are you streaming?
rigid fog
I will be once I am done DLing the 2nd page
stable kiln
ive seen like 5% now 😛
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Damn i wish this had online co-op. would have been a blast to play with more ppl #115
rigid fog
stupid ass windows explorer crashed on me
all these download screens creashed it..
stupid windows
dire heart
love when that happens @rigid fog
stable kiln
5% of the games 😛
rigid fog
Ah, yeah, well, I am going to finish up the few on the 1st page I missed and then do the 2nd page
I hadn't planned on doing all the games, but w/e
tepid light
how much time did it take so far?
rigid fog
3 hours on the first playthrough session, then I meant to only take a small break, but fell asleep
robust basalt
did you find any gems yet?
rigid fog
Yeah
24 - Solid and polished gameplay
It's like damnit, already forgot the name already
the old school 8-bit one with the pig mask
tepid light
Badass Brad?
rigid fog
yeah
tepid light
hotline miami?
rigid fog
I meant the game is replicated
yeah there you go
That name always escapes me for some reason
tepid light
well, I loved hotline, so I will check this one out
rigid fog
Everything was just so polished in that game
tepid light
anything else?
robust basalt
what about #129?
rigid fog
A lot of decent ones but nothing polished
robust basalt
didn't test yet, but art style is awesome
proven badge
denny try #129
just make sure you player bug free build, they provided 2 builds there
stable kiln
lol content created none, its all marketplace
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its 1 link
rigid fog
TBH...it
robust basalt
ah, gotcha
proven badge
clue*
tepid light
@rigid fog can you post a link to your stream?
robust basalt
whats wrong with dropbox? are they out of servers or what
robust basalt
download speed abysmal
stable kiln
71 looks good for 1 man army
frigid mist
what happened
rigid fog
half the games I unzipped didn't go into the folder...so now trying to figure out where they went
frigid mist
👽
robust basalt
#71 awesome audiovisual style, not sure if gameplay is worth testing though