#game-jam-chat
pine fulcrum
@wind aspen i have a 1080 so... as long as you can run what you make, so can I
velvet echo
pre-ordered zbrushcore. did i just waste my money?
wind aspen
cool ...good to know
small fern
Core should be enough for basic sculpting, "core" brushes are there
biggest downsides are that there's no poly reduction tools unless I missed decimate, zRemesher definitely isn't there and mesh projection tool is also not there
but for basic high poly sculpting, it should be just fine
foggy shard
yeah you are...
dire heart
Good morning guys! Hope you all have a good and productive day 😄
dire heart
Or if you haven't gone to sleep yet, save my message and read it when you wake up again
foggy shard
i can't build empty project 😦
small fern
@foggy shard what's the error about?
pretty sure there is more descriptive error above that "unkown cook failure"
if it's about virtual memory running out, then that's "normal"
I get that 75% of the time on certain packaging setup
velvet echo
someone reported getting the error with a bad BP, but if your project is empty then that can't be the case right?
foggy shard
apparently fmod
small fern
ah
you need fmod folder in contents folder and need to put that into packaging settings too
foggy shard
mm
velvet echo
guess just do high poly in zbrushcore, then retopo in modo/blender
foggy shard
ok i will try
small fern
yeah, those instructions are poor
foggy shard
MapCheck: Info Map check complete: 0 Error(s), 0 Warning(s), took 27.856ms to complete.
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows (32-bit)): UE4Editor-Cmd: [2016.10.10-06.20.16:749][ 0]LogFMOD:Error: e:\jk\workspace\1. Build_UE4_1.8_Libs\studio_api\src\fmod_bankmodel.cpp(346) - Failed to open file '../../../../../../Work/Games/MyProject2/Content/FMOD/Desktop/Master Bank.strings.bank'
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows (32-bit)): UE4Editor-Cmd: [2016.10.10-06.20.36:623][ 0]LogInit:Display: Warning/Error Summary (Unique only)
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows (32-bit)): UE4Editor-Cmd: [2016.10.10-06.20.36:624][ 0]LogInit:Display: LogFMOD:Error: e:\jk\workspace\1. Build_UE4_1.8_Libs\studio_api\src\fmod_bankmodel.cpp(346) - Failed to open file '../../../../../../Work/Games/MyProject2/Content/FMOD/Desktop/Master Bank.strings.bank'
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows (32-bit)): UE4Editor-Cmd: [2016.10.10-06.20.36:634][ 0]LogInit:Display: Failure - 1 error(s), 3 warning(s)
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows (32-bit)): Program.Main: ERROR: AutomationTool terminated with exception: AutomationTool.AutomationException: Cook failed. ---> AutomationTool.AutomationException: BUILD FAILED: Failed while running Cook for X:\Work\Games\MyProject2\MyProject2.uproject; see log C:\Users\sZXZ\AppData\Roaming\Unreal Engine\AutomationTool\Logs\X+So
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows (32-bit)): Program.Main: AutomationTool exiting with ExitCode=25 (Error_UnknownCookFailure)
PackagingResults:Error: Error Unknown Cook Failure```for example, I have mine like this-> <project folder>\Contents\FMOD\Desktop\Master Bank.bank
foggy shard
entered error in search in output log
foggy shard
ok but there i get this?
foggy shard
oh i see
small fern
they have some bank there
foggy shard
ok thanks 😃
small fern
to make your own, you'd need FMOD Studio
foggy shard
yeah i got that downloaded but i was like i need to check if build works and what size i get
small fern
you also need to add this to your packaging settings
unless you want to manually copy those files after packaging...
small fern
yeah, I wouldn't recommend learning FMOD during the jam though, unless you have some nice walkthrough somewhere 😃
unless I remember wrong, FMOD overhead was like 6-10 MB
on packaged build
foggy shard
I usually learn pretty fast. And got experience with audio software shouldn't be very different?
small fern
well, if you do, please tell how it went 😄
foggy shard
what could be so hard about fmod? As i understand i will spend more time trying to sync standard audio
small fern
I'd love to do interactive music with fmod but haven't bothered to learn how you'd even start doing that
foggy shard
that like main thing in my game idea so it's only way 😃
cos Settling The Music Score
foggy shard
But i have ideas how to simplify if fmod going to be troublesome
uneven basin
start small son
foggy shard
or quit sleeping
foggy shard
coffee
uneven basin
hmm, camera actor wai u not tick when paused
foggy shard
but actually just opening the project and start working is best way to motivate yourself. At least for me
uneven basin
umm
how do I exclude actors from pause
I did set my camera actor to tick even when paused, but it still can't move
glass fossil
Got the battle/consequence system finished, though its terribly imbalanced towards military players over farmer players. Going to start on making a little story segment at the beginning to set up the "why" of the game. (only half the consequences visible from this shot)
foggy shard
Automation.Execute: BUILD SUCCESSFUL yay
you check build size just by clicking Properties on a folder?
small fern
Ye
foggy shard
70 is ok for empty?
somber hazel
I already vote for my game for most simplest game
foggy shard
is it balloons popping?
and just HUD with scores
you just quickly press on balloons with mouse pointer and they pop
if your screen filed with balloons your loose
gradually increase speed for balloons spawn
Call it "Bloody Balloons"
glass fossil
simplest game to make would probably be something that can take advantage of the first or third person template
somber hazel
no, it's a bullet hell game 😄
spawn a s<3t ton of projectiles and make some tweaks here and there to make it not look rubbish ^^
and cross fingers everything works with collision and I don't need to do math ;P
somber hazel
not like the theme is kinda suited for bullet hell 😅
foggy shard
and hopefully with music composing
glass fossil
sounds fun 😃 looking forward to seeing Alex play em
glass fossil
hehe sure, do I get to be a bullet type? Or maybe an enemy 😃
glass fossil
nice 😃
foggy shard
fmod tutorials is pleasure to hear...
that sound more pervert then it supposed to be
indigo bobcat
just did my first test build for my jam game it decided to spook me for a minute and freeze for a minute thought it was going to fail thankfully it built
foggy shard
o god she is nervous on second video and i watch it on 2x speed so effect intensified
uneven basin
why does editor connect to epic
LogHttp:Warning: 000000DC66629D80: libcurl info message cache 8 (Could not resolve host: datarouter.ol.epicgames.com)
foggy shard
god fmod is cool
now i god strange mystic music going on
not procedural yet
just random
glass fossil
Added a very basic settings menu so that players can pick the right res, fullscreen, windowed option, that works for them.
somber hazel
reminds I should have follow Matthew's new tutorials where he explains game settings and saving them and stuff
that's just console command and get resolution something, right? ❤
wind aspen
Looks great @glass fossil
My main menu just starts and exits
Wanted Dead - Start Menu
uneven basin
oh my brain started to hurt again
upbeat wren
It's crunch time, I've taken like 12x the recommended nootropic and caffine dose, first game jam is brutal
uneven basin
you doping son
tepid axle
ariticle D section 5 subsection c, thall shalt not exceed recommended doses of caffiene, failure to do so will result in immediate disqualification
dire heart
Im excited to play some of your games 😄
tepid axle
lol say that after youve played mine 😛
sharp berry
troubles waking up yawns widely
somber hazel
running helps me
usually about 8km
then I'm awake
that's 5 miles, maybe, I dont know
sharp berry
After running roughly.... 200 meters gravity starts to increase by 10 times
I've no idea what miles are other then airmiles that you can save up
sharp berry
1 mile is 5280 feet, ~1.609km...... what the actual fuck do they teach their kids
lament oar
1 mile is exactly twice as long as half a mile. :mindblown:
sharp berry
somber hazel
2 american presidential candidates are still 0 candidates
I could work on my game or I watch the 2 hour debate now :3
sharp berry
Current presidential candidates: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/powerrangers/images/b/bb/ZeddAndRita.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090720205925
somber hazel
😂
sharp berry
Im constantly fighting my self, the urge to post a screenshot is big but I dont want to spoil anything
somber hazel
I wanted to put trump in my bullet hell game and his biggest weapon would be a huge wall and you have to move around it and hit him from behind
but political games...
10min in.. nope, back to work 😄
tepid axle
you know though, look at all the field events, do you think they are in metric? 😛
somber hazel
blabla blabla MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIn
tepid axle
1.6km, 800m, 400m, 200m hmm
miles isnt so bad its all those weird gallons and tonnes that arnt actually tonnes 😛
tepid axle
its not a debate actually SI units are well established 😃
sharp berry
Imperial system is like Apple, things must be different because.....
tepid axle
standard units are just to mainstream
sharp berry
me atm https://imgflip.com/i/1c36tl
tepid axle
sounds about right 😃
tepid axle
not much you can do about that
sharp berry
If it works, dont fix it 😛
tepid axle
well least yours works, mine looks neat but its still broken lol
I do have a new list of suggested fixes for BPs though, the reroute node should really be a 4 square instead of a 3 wide so the dot is on a grid point
tepid light
I have all my game mechanics in place, but still no actual game. No win lose condition. I think i will have to work on this now.
Plus, lighting sucks. Two years of using ue4 and I still don't know how to properly setup lighting in my levels.
sharp berry
Easiest: Directional Light -> set to Dynamic, add Skylight. Done
austere glade
lighting is hard, thats why i go self lit
i have too many other things to master first
tepid light
Static lights can't overlap, dynamic lights are expensive, eye adaptation gets in the way
sharp berry
Dynamic Lights are 8ms expensive, unless you have a world of 1km², there is nothing to worry about
somber hazel
I just noticed, you can disable your whole static lighting and go from 140fps to 200fps on a radeon r9 270x here
and yeah, dynamic light for such small games is cheaper than half life on a steam sale
upbeat wren
The only image i will release for now 😛
tepid light
I wanted to post some gifs, but I need to fix lighting first
upbeat wren
somber hazel
already saw it
upbeat wren
the map is coming together so Im not allowed to release it haha
somber hazel
we demand more HARAMBE!"
somber hazel
well, it totally nailed the theme ^^
upbeat wren
I wonder who will get shot first, me, hillary or trump
somber hazel
now Im hoping it's not a clickbait game 😄
upbeat wren
ads, ads everywhere
I've made it so you can do fast arse lunging, slam down, meele, leave devestation in your path
somber hazel
I mean, I just need to look at this beautiful menu and my body wants more :3
tepid light
On the unrelated topic... Would anyone like to see a video playthrough/review of their game, once the contest ends? I want to make some videos, and people might enjoy that.
upbeat wren
I can give you another sneak peak but it's not ready for release 😛
@tepid light yeah man, #HarambeRip
upbeat wren
tepid light
@upbeat wren I see your are going strong with the memes...
upbeat wren
aye, ill tell the other guy haha
sharp berry
One Widget to rule them all!
With (at least) 522 people participating in the jam, I expected it to be more crowded in here
sharp berry
Im shy too
tepid axle
flops out his big long... code
foggy shard
i just not that i would do better if i talk to people
sharp berry
I need to make a dialoge system.. #FM
tepid axle
dem feels when your debug code has been lying to you
foggy shard
well now you need to 😃
sharp berry
It looks like a 5th world country
foggy shard
i usualy don't use so many keyboards
sharp berry
Candy papers, ash, stuff everywhere
foggy shard
procedural music isn't simple
mint flint
isn't procedural music just booping some beeps till your bits are bopping?
austere glade
hmmm needs more boop
foggy shard
it's random one
austere glade
if(boop == 2) boop++;
sharp berry
Haha, boob boob
mint flint
yeah music is easy you just hit the notes till it sounds good right?
foggy shard
also i probably not going to press a lot of buttons/notes and it's mostly blueprints
so just using music theory
mint flint
ah see that's what gets me. you have to be smart to do it well lol 😃
foggy shard
is it strange to hear other instruments if your character with base guitar?
lament oar
when I played bass I would listen to the drums mostly but it depends on the mix in the studio or on stage. You do hear the other instruments of course but focally you have to keep a timing (or in the bass case, timing and off-timing with the drums) so you kind of drown out the rest a little.
dire heart
@upbeat wren Wow Wasp that looks amazing haha
pearl roost
hahaha amazing @upbeat wren xD
upbeat wren
We've improved it since 😛 but thank you, @dire heart @pearl roost the hands are being upgrade now, the buildings have become modular and the frame isnt so bad, also now there are launch pads and you can lunge in any direction you aim if you launch from one so it be going cray cray and you 2 just give me a motivation boost
glass fossil
Hello devs
tepid light
hello
uneven basin
this is getting really fucking hard. client has 0 chance of getting hands on AI controllers
small fern
I'm killing my baby now
small fern
this is where I was day ago:
there's no way I could finish the idea I had on that, even if I got to model the things needed
dire heart
Me and @pearl roost gamejam central
sharp berry
Looking clean
dire heart
@sharp berry Thanks dude, and yes those are pokemon cards on the walls
sharp berry
The pikachuw hat and pikachuw doll gave that away already :p
upbeat wren
@small fern wait, you're giving up?
upbeat wren
man, thats a shame, scope ended up too big brother?
sharp berry
First to sign up... RIP
small fern
yeah, scope is just too big and I can't make any fun gameplay with the parts I have alone
heh
well, I might do a totally different game though
sharp berry
Was is your first idea?
pearl roost
@sharp berry we also have a Pikachu amiibo haha
sharp berry
@small fern You can always go for a Bejeweled game :p
Or a super mario game where Bowser takes revenge against Mario and Toad for kidnapping his true love, the princes
small fern
it was supposed to be mini adventure game thingy, with wing commander element 😄 but even I went full crunch on it, my plot would have too big holes for it to make any sense at this point
oh
if I do another thing, it'll be just as silly as this was 😄
ashen meadow
@sharp berry that bowser idea was on my initial list too 😀
uneven basin
I feel like I might aswell be working at quantum mechanics labs when doing unreal networking 😩
upbeat wren
Aye, better off building your own API to be fair with networking based upon low level sockets used in UE
uneven basin
right, nuke the code and start again
There has to be a way for clients to instruct AI controllers
upbeat wren
@uneven basin Just send a request to the server and they can instruct the AI
foggy shard
@small fern good luck with new one
uneven basin
I tried, it kept telling me it's accessing none on AI controller
like screw this, ill do the whole logic on server side
foggy shard
why not turn it in avenge death of the crew mate?
upbeat wren
Does the server keep a reference list of all AI?
foggy shard
aliens and stuff
uneven basin
no I was referencing character -> get AI controller
and that gave me null on client
it worked on server
upbeat wren
try storing the AI as references in a Tarray on the server side as they are instantiated
and accessing it like that
uneven basin
but I would have to make logic to find out the specific controller too when I want to hand out instructions
mk2 will pass mouse click and vector3
and server has to figure out the rest
upbeat wren
If you add a variable to the AI actor say, ID, just an integer ever incrementing, then use a Tmap<int, AActor> on the server
when the player makes a request concerning the AI actor, send the ID
uneven basin
yea but client would have to be up to date on those ID's too
upbeat wren
then you just access the TMap with the ID and it'll give you the right actor
uneven basin
which creates a point of failure
upbeat wren
You dont need to replace old ones unless you think you'll have more AI than an int32 can handle 😛
just keep incrementing it since TMap uses keys
can just delete by key, add by key, a global incrementing index stored within the server gameinstance
Trust me, I've worked in McDonalds, I know my shit 😛
tepid light
...
I hate lighting so much...
also, droping items work, but I cant pick them up again..
no idea why..
upbeat wren
man, I'm having too much fun with my movement to continue developing anymore, rip jam
foggy shard
i just sit here and play on my little keyboard
dire heart
This is my second gamejam, and the first one I'll probably finish my game. How should i package and submit it? Build windows 64 bit, zip it and provide a dropbox link? Appreciate anyone helping me 😄
tepid light
I don't know why, but if I put 4-6 dynamic lights I get 40 less fps.
dire heart
Damn no D:
tepid light
and Thats too much
uneven basin
Good news everyone
foggy shard
don't cast shadows from them
foggy shard
like use one or something
uneven basin
Linetrace fails every time
tepid light
I cannot reattach actor to component.
don't know why.
i spawn an actor and immidietly attach it - it works. I try to detach it and reatach it again and it doesn't
uneven basin
same linetrace that works fine on listen server
fails for another controller
correction, it works barely
very very unreliable hits
upbeat wren
Are you making sure you're linetracing from the correct player index? 0 is server, anything above is additional players
uneven basin
no, I'm shooting at thin air and getting first hit that matches the character class
lets see if amping up the trace distance helps
it might fall short
upbeat wren
try debugging it with a debug trace
uneven basin
I am
bu there seems to be some sort of issue with the capsule component
trace stops to actor mesh, but does not register the actor
upbeat wren
point of origin is another actor yea?
uneven basin
for the trace?`
upbeat wren
aye
uneven basin
camera location
upbeat wren
I guess youll just have to use a visual debug trace to see whats happening and check the return actor
uneven basin
also having issue with logic somewhere
match starts if host is ready, while it should check if both host and client are ready
upbeat wren
build a struct dataclass, store into a list of players which it holds a reference, booleans such as, IsReady which get toggled when the client requests it from some action then when you're about to begin just loop through the list of structs, checking each IsReady
upbeat wren
It looks like this is server side logic only meaning if the client isn't ready it doesnt know as the server will probably be instantiating pawns, it may start before the player has a pawn ready, youll need to get confirmation from the clients prior to advancing
uneven basin
players manually place the pawns
unless that PlayerArray variable is lying to me
since it's gamestate's default variable
dusky wyvern
You guys, i cant make the jam anymore so my music guy is looking to join a team
quartz flax
^music guy
upbeat wren
can you show me your music for reference?
quartz flax
Ooo what genre u lookin for?....man guess i shudda updated my soundcloud before barrelling in here lol
upbeat wren
We're doing a harambe revenge game in a cartoony destructive sense
we've been considering a music guy
dusky wyvern
lol
dusky wyvern
i suggest you post your wip's and he post his sound cloud so ya'll can decide
quartz flax
lolol....well well...so something not tooo serious...or are u going for epic music contrast on silly plot?
dusky wyvern
wips or jam ideas
upbeat wren
#MusicForHarambe
quartz flax
#SkinFlutesOutForHarambe
ok Imma upload a couple demos and link u in a bit.....keeping in mind u can tell me what u want exactly after.
upbeat wren
Monkey music, comical, boom booms, can you do sound effects too?
upbeat wren
get me more examples the other boys will be online soon so I can send them de work and suggest them that we need music guys
foggy shard
going to be*
quartz flax
cool...i'll whip up a short original demo with the exact theme in mind.....fast paced game?
and feel free to say "oh no no no that sucks" lol
upbeat wren
It's fast paced, harambe can slam, jump like a rocket, go crazy, jump pads, things breaking everywhere, walls, trash cans, marriages
upbeat wren
aye np, ive gotta pass this with the other 2 of the team but we do need music and sfx, free stuff never settles as well
small fern
talking about music and games
loved "Loom"
old lucasfilm point'n'click adventure where you basically just interact with things by playing notes to cast spells
if I remember correctly, it also had reverse spells
so if you learned notes for open spell, you could just play it in reverse and it would then do close spell
uneven basin
\o/ yatta
everything works again
but im still 1 day behind because of that controller shenanigan
sullen flume
Well, I think I won't be able to finish this in time..
feral halo
upbeat wren
@feral halo Looking good, especially being drunk 😛
sharp berry
@uneven basin Doesnt array start at 0? So if you == 8, it's 9 in total?
uneven basin
afaik length starts from 1
not 0
I got confused since I use the same array to check does match have 2 players
and it worked there
but at that context I pasted, I switched it to GetAllActorsOfClass and it works now
small fern
yeah
length is 0 if there's nothing in it
1 if there's 1 etc
but array itself of course is starting from 0
uneven basin
ye if you get last element, it will result element count - 1
sullen flume
Any workaround for the Cursor not showing up on a UI widget? Even if I set it to "Show mouse cursor" to true
dusky wyvern
happens in PIE or when you launch the game?
feral halo
CTZN are you using steam subsystem or what for netwrokign
sullen flume
@dusky wyvern when launching the game, and opening "the shop"
small fern
you have the mouse lock on with the set input mode to ui?
not sure if you really need to set it
uneven basin
@feral halo yea I planned on using that, haven't set it up yet thou
once I get the match scoring, round reset etc working tomorrow I'll do first multiplayer test with cooked build
outer quest
Is it cool to use Materials in the StarterContent for our submissions?
small fern
it's allowed
you just need to disclose the materials on your submission
(state their origin)
outer quest
What about textures pulled from the net? Just source it too or do I have to get permission?
small fern
you have to have rights to use them for this purpose
outer quest
Alright, ty!
foggy shard
This plugin is very CPU intensive.
T_T
as always i want to do something impossible
small fern
@outer quest basically the rules mention that too (that you need to have rights to use to everything you include on your submission)
so, random google images are always fishy
but if you got like textures from various cg/game graphics websites, they would probably be cool as is
they all do have licensing though
outer quest
Indeed. Found such a good snowy one tho 😢 but yea makes sense. Its a relief can use the StarterContent stuff though. Our artist is actually a coder so no real artist, so any art stuff is really hard for us to get done x)
outer quest
I offered to do it too (programmer) but apparently bright red blocks are not approriate art \o/
foggy shard
saving like ton of files manually or bad performance?
glass fossil
getting pretty pro at fixing mixamo characters, at this point there should probably just be a script to do it
foggy shard
and i don't know what to do about it.
tepid light
anyone here knows AI?
How do I make NavLinkProxys work? I set it up, left on the ledge, right on the bottom, Link direction left to right
it shows the arrow in the editor
but it doesn't work
glass fossil
out of time?
fringe aurora
Not really just like
Team fell through nothing's got done yet
Is it possible to put together a game with the time left
?
mint flint
the normal jam time is 3 days
you have 3 days still so yes
hell you could get a game done in a couple hours if to focus your scope
foggy shard
ok looks like i am not doing 100mb thing
fringe aurora
time to make amorphous blob goes on a existential journey through weirdly lit cave land and learns true meaning
small fern
well, 2.5 days
so one day less than in regular jam
but if you don't do super complex game, definitely doable still
fringe aurora
yup blob journey is slated for full release in 2.5 days
glass fossil
now to play the wainting game to see how much the blob journey season pass costs
tepid light
velvet echo
i can't work out why my projectile is going right through my static mesh without generating overlap events
small fern
is it a thin mesh?
basically if you don't sweep things, things might teleport through objects between frames
tepid light
Do you have the projectile setup correctly? I had this problem. Projectile needs to have a sphere collision as root not static mesh
at least that was a source of a problem in my case
small fern
no idea how projectiles do things on unreal though
tepid light
If you add projectile component weird thinks happen.
velvet echo
yeah, i have a spherecollider as root and static mesh sphere inside it
tepid light
*things
glass fossil
That's a pretty cool trailer @tepid light already shows a core fun gameplay element without giving too much away 😃
tepid light
Thats 90% of my game.
I'm trying to optimize to have a whole horde of enemies that fall apart and chase you with axes
small fern
everything is always better in slomo
tepid light
I also used ue4 to make a game that looks like it was made in ue1 😃
velvet echo
small fern
badass projectiles
velvet echo
i want it to destroy the projectile when it collides, but i am not even getting collide events with static meshes
small fern
does it collide with ground?
if that projectile for first person template or something you've setup yourself from scratch?
tepid light
- Does the mesh have collisions setup?
small fern
you use projectile collision preset for the root collider?
velvet echo
yeah, it shows a collision box
tepid light
2)Do you use proper channels
small fern
in fps template, projectile actor has sphere collider as root
and mesh with no collision attached to it
but it should work with mesh that just has sphere collider setup for it
velvet echo
do i have to create a BP for a static mesh to collide with it?
small fern
how you even setup the projectile without actor?
velvet echo
when i drag static mesh on, default is to not generate overlap events
small fern
well
it should still collide
those settings are just to generate the hit and overlap events
velvet echo
i have projectile set to overlapdynamic
velvet echo
so it will only generate overlap events, i want to destroy it, not bounce it
small fern
well, that makes more sense now
velvet echo
always something dumb i do
foggy shard
small fern
Cool Jazz
glass fossil
Game is finished and the player can now get four distinct endings. With the remaining time I'm going to try to balance the game as much as possible, add sound, add visual variety and flair.
indigo harbor
Is this accurate? 2 days 15 hours remaining - http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20161013T14&p0=207&msg=Epic+Submission+Deadline+(start+of+stream)&font=sanserif
oh nvm saw the pinned one
wait thats for the start of the jam
upbeat wren
@indigo harbor its for the start of the stream for the end of the jam
proven badge
this ain't a bug, Anyone can guess what he is doing? 😄
velvet echo
toilet?
so, how can i get a destructable to break on command, and not by getting hit by something?
proven badge
nope
velvet echo
if i disable impact damage on a destructable, it doesn't seem to get hit events anymore
upbeat wren
@velvet echo it will if you use something such as radial force, impulse force and have the damage setting
velvet echo
Cheating instead
Set a large damage threshold on the destructable, then i apply a large damage when i want to destroy it
opaque basin
@upbeat wren you said ui artist?
I might be able to lend a hand
unless that was all said in jest 😛
quiet thistle
did you make that pirate for the gamejam?
why arent you on my team... lol
I still havent been sent a single piece of art yet 😦
though I have seen a screenshot so at least theres that
gray cedar
I spent too much time making animations. Now I barely have a game
wind aspen
Hows everyone's jam?
velvet echo
seems i am making a very simple game
since i have spent far too much time on less important things
wind aspen
Had my day job today so i can't wait to get back to it tonight
somber hazel
Has Harambe Simulator Gamepad Input? @upbeat wren
lapis lichen
2-ish days left until the MegaJam finishes.... How's everyone getting on??
uneven basin
hmm
LogScript:Warning: Runaway loop detected (over 1,000,000 iterations) - see log for stack trace
BobbleHeadAnimBP_C /Game/Maps/UEDPIE_1_TestMap.TestMap:PersistentLevel.SmashCharacter_C_25.CharacterMesh0.BobbleHeadAnimBP_C_25
uneven basin
except I dont have loops in animbp
lapis lichen
runs at @somber hazel and gives them a spectacular flying hug which energises them for the final days of development!!!
somber hazel
❤
feral halo
@lapis lichen Badly -.-
RL stuff getting in the way
and we still need to do like 3/4 of our gameplay mechanics
lament oar
whatever it is, make it fire Donald Trump faces and leave it at that !
feral halo
ATM strugglign to make a throwable object
that destructs
and applies effects
But at least we have a boudicca with booty https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/221796616653373441/235277830508773376/unknown.png
lapis lichen
@feral halo If I was in your situation, what I'd do is strip the game back to one or two mechanics (if possible) - then polish them 😃
feral halo
We uh cant
we have like 3 mechanics total
or 4
But we wrote our own custom netcode
It was hard
lapis lichen
ooh nice
glass fossil
Then it sounds like there is still room to pull back a bit 😮
feral halo
basically our job list is:
Textures & Animations
A few props
Pickup / Throwable Objects
Sword Swings
And the last bits of NAT punching
uneven basin
putting in last logic bits
still need to finish main menu things, and tomorrow will be pretty much tweaking
well "tweaking" adding audio and stuff
postprocess etc
wind aspen
cool i am doing tesing on packaging
lament oar
you are teasing packages? Cmon now this is a family show.
upbeat wren
@lament oar bow chicka
@somber hazel aye it has my default gamepad input along with k/m
somber hazel
Play Dynamic Force Feedback: Intensity: 42
uneven basin
there volume 10, and 11. but for this night we go to 42
tepid axle
over 9000
notice me senpai
pulls out his secret weapon...
dont be scared its just a lil jon 😛
foggy shard
well i not sure if i will be able to do actual gameplay
small fern
@somber hazel do note that different controllers have difference force intensity
I have two same model x360 wireless controllers, just manufactured at different years and they have difference in forces already
either that or other is some superb chinese replica (bought it online)
foggy shard
Or just old joystick decrease it's rumble power
i am redoing all of my proc sound set up coz didn't know better
but then if not on game jams learn new thongs?
tepid axle
game jam thongs... Lil Jon approves
small fern
heh
I'm done with this jam now, I got way better idea now but I don't feel like crunching next two days for entry that'll be super bare bones again
tepid axle
done as in giving up or finished?
small fern
sad still because I was really excited about the 100 MB thing, didn't get to even utilize all my planned tricks on that
giving up
small fern
for the record, I got empty fully working unreal project with physics and audio still working down to 25 megs, on desktop ;D 30+ with some additional plugins
that would have given me plenty of room for content, especially since it would have been proc gen for all but modular meshes
tepid axle
all that power and Im using UE4 to render text.... cmon Im a genius admit it 😛
small fern
heh
uneven basin
most advanced post processing for text
tepid axle
I still got alot to do but the data stuff was the trickiest bit and thats out of the way now, I havent even started on gameplay really 😦
tepid axle
I didnt even need an engine to do this really I coulda used webgl straight up
foggy shard
java script
tepid axle
slate does render text good tho 😛
foggy shard
but there is requirement for platform mac or pc
tepid axle
well its under 100MB thats what matters 😃 and Im a solo dev making a reasonable sized game
should have decent replay value I hope
small fern
you have to make the game with unreal to qualify though
tepid axle
lol which is why Im doing it this way 😃
tepid axle
upbeat wren
Is there a way to make a spline straighten up on a specific axis/path?
uneven basin
was there an option to not package un-used assets?
lament oar
@upbeat wren yeah. You get the Spline point and set it's rotation and tangents to equate to a straight line
well you will have to do it on two spline points to get it right but if one is already the right direction, you can do it with a single point
small fern
@uneven basin not that I'm aware of, but if you don't know what's used or not, you could just migrate your maps into blank project and it would leave unused assets behind
proven badge
@quiet thistle I did not saw you looking for a team. Might have teamed up if you have placed your post ont he forums 😉
upbeat wren
@lament oar Thanks matey
upbeat wren
@ruby cradle What kind of spec will the jam computers be running mate if you do not mind me asking?
mint flint
I think something badass is the normal answer. It's probably similar to the stream machines so massive cores and titans
basically "don't worry about it" seems to be the response heh
somber hazel
if you ask the question, it looks like you made something wrong 😄
usually if you can run it, they can run it ;P
mint flint
challenge accepted!
somber hazel
except you got your own youtube channel about making tutorials on Unreal Engine, then your rig is probably more beast :3
tepid axle
Im gonna make tutorials on how to make tutorials
mint flint
nah epic's machines are beastly by every stretch of the imagination
it's like nothing held back for them as every second counts when doing dev work the money pays for itself
tepid axle
Epic has giant battle robots
mint flint
when "the dude" at Nvidia gives you the first Titan X you know your awesome
and then when you give said signed Titan X away as a prize to your customers you just made awesome look bad
upbeat wren
Does anyone know why I have to restart the editor to get spline control points to show up XYZ movement?
somber hazel
they are like... "it's new, it's probably gonna explode, better give away as a prize"
mint flint
lol
upbeat wren
"New driver released, quick, give the titan away"
somber hazel
^:D
tepid axle
ruby cradle
@upbeat wren I have one with a titan x, i7, 16gigs ram
another with a 780 and similar specs
980ti with vive at my house for VR games
tepid axle
what about your laptop? 😛
somber hazel
16gigs ram? I hope it's DDR4 :3
upbeat wren
@ruby cradle thanks matey
@somber hazel difference between DDR3 and 4 is barely anything in terms of raw FPS performance Q_Q 😛
somber hazel
lol, no idea, I just know they are new... and more expensive...
upbeat wren
haha yeah RAM is a weird one
some people go for raw higher MHz and don't realize they get bottlenecked due to the latency
I learned it the very hard way
I got corsair platinum 3xxxmhz ram
had to sell them on
small fern
for just gamedev purposes, type or speed is not the most important thing
what matters is that you have enough of it :p
I have 24 GB on my system and it still runs out
will make sure my next system will have 64
for games, 16 is just fine
somber hazel
I will upgrade if I get them for 30€
mint flint
I was running kite demo last night fully loaded in the editor ate up 24GB alone lol
sharp berry
Timelines are so awesome!
foggy shard
i need to save around 160 audio files
foggy shard
! i need to download that
small fern
if you just think of things on unreal alone that need much ram
foggy shard
why else i need 1070
mint flint
yep I mainly went with extra ram for lightmass. I can actually do it now lol 😃
small fern
yeah, even some epics examples need more than 8 GB
mint flint
oh yeah 8gb was rough on the laptop and even 16gb was pushing it for stuff like infiltrator
and kite demo hated 16
tepid axle
need 16GB of vram 😛
mint flint
yeah the kite demo was slurping down 7gb VRAM.. I was impressed
redownloading GTAV now to see if I can break the machine heh
should just play with particles one of these jams and just do the entire game out of it both cpu and gpu particles
somber hazel
a game only with particles? sounds fun if you had access to single particles
tepid axle
would be a good way to test the new particle stuff when it gets released 😃
mint flint
yeah I am 3% experienced with Particles so it should be fun to learn and try
attach an emitter to an actor and move it around. kinda form a particle blobby character thing. have it like go do stuff. As you can see the design is quite rough... heh
hah
I wonder if you can get the current FPS in game? like actually get it. "Settle the Score" theme game could be you having to introduce particles to the scene by holding down a button. You have to reach, or settle on, a defined target FPS. You are timed on how long it takes to hit it without going lower.
lament oar
yeah I have done that before
I did it for an interp system that required exact frame times to determine any discrepency from fluctuation
lament oar
one sec ill dig it out
mint flint
I can just use the frame delta time, doi
upbeat wren
strange, these spline roads end up looking like they're off, I've tried using flatten as well select the landscape components to get them right but something seems off
mint flint
man I wonder if I could learn particles and make a stupid entry out of this in a day 😃
small fern
@uneven basin not sure about the partial mesh but if it can be separate mesh, then you can just set custom depth buffer for it
and if you need to separate many that way, you can additionally use stencils
you can read those in PP material
hmmm
got yet another idea on the theme
bit late though
basically you could make a game about fixing the results of some sports event, to make gambling.. less gambling
like boxing etc, sabotage opponents you want to lose etc
mint flint
nice
that could be fun, like one of those small mobile sim games like gave dev tycoon life but your bookie
uneven basin
problem was, my character mesh was already set for custom depth for the post process
but I made the material self-lit
looks "ok"
small fern
well, if the char is custom depth, you could still separate various submeshes with stencil values
but it's like the custom depth thing, so needs to be applied to the whole mesh at once
uneven basin
right almost forgot, need that waypoint indicator
tepid axle
51.5MB without the prereqs and extra exe
think I'll call that a night after the successful package, got the crunch to go still 😛
foggy shard
i did only music this whole time
tepid axle
I only started on actual game stuff today 😃
austere glade
wild man
i was surpirsed to be the first to submit a few hours ago
psure by this time last year half the submissions were in
tepid axle
still 48hrs to go
austere glade
not sure how much i could get done with devs days so blitzed to get in early
tepid axle
yeah those game events are insane, you could pretty much travel the place all year around these days and still miss a few 😛
austere glade
ya dev days is the only one i do.. so much better this year with ue4 presence
i think 4.0 wasnt even out last time
tepid axle
last event I went to I was actually pretty dissapointed tbh, I was expecting to have some cool dev talks but everyone was kinda tight lipped
being pre-PAX probably didnt help
austere glade
i typically dont like dev conferences but i was impressed at the value of the last steam one
tepid axle
hmm might have to check it out in the future, Im not big on small talk so yeah I dont really go for the social 😃
austere glade
we need a unrealcon with a giant onsite game jam
tepid axle
that would be something Id attend, might be hard to fit us all in one room though 😛
mind you Unity seems to have a bigger presence here still 😦
austere glade
unity has a big summit rite?
maiden loom
smaller regionalised events work better
tepid axle
probably but they seem to dominate most of the events here regardless
its because we lost alot of our AAA studios so theres a huge indie culture, its pretty much all we got is hipsters, whales, cows and coffee
austere glade
ur in NC?
tepid axle
I saw someone pitch a game about a Melbourne coffee shop...
austere glade
ooh aussie
tepid axle
pitch was decent, game was lame as shit XD
or oh the guy with the new born baby who pitched this little mobile game which was basically a metaphor for a new born baby
sigh one day I'll meet someone who will impress the shit outta me, until then...
I really hate having to patronize people, like oh hey yeah thats really great dude lol
I should really just go Jim Sterling on peoples arses tbh bwahaha, no thats shit, gtfo and dont put it on greenlight
I got an idea, its called Army of the Clones, its about game developers who make the same games as other developers and just rebrand them... <insert awe>
mint flint
aww
lament oar
You know how Hillary Clinton has been found to say she has a public standpoint and a private one? Probably a good idea as long as neither know about the other :p
tepid axle
Bill Clinton is her private face 😛
lament oar
have you seen his face recently? Man looks gaunt. Probably gonna die soon.
tepid axle
its like Batman and Bruce Wayne cept they can both be present at the same time
tepid light
Does creative Commons share alike license mean I have to release the source code if I use music with that license in my game, or is game being free enough?
tepid axle
nope its not really the same as proper open source, which license in specific is it?
austere glade
first born child.. minimum
tepid axle
lol is that your entry requirements?
uneven basin
@pine fulcrum here?
glass fossil
Probably going to spend half the day trying to balance this game. Keep fluctuating between too hard and too easy.
uneven basin
oh, I was just asking if your steam subsystem tutorial is up to date
but I found the issue, the plugin was not enabled by default >_<
foggy shard
I have an idea! I can do slimes as enemies coz they are easier to animate!
glass fossil
proceeds to make 65 bone slime
manic ether
LOL
pine fulcrum
Slimes got bones yo
foggy shard
why bones i can use blend shapes
it needs exactly 1 bone for jumping and stuff
but what if i want my slime to hold items?
2 floating slime arms blobs
but it is sure easier then tentacles
frail palm
Streaning game jam stuff. https://www.twitch.tv/jvthewanderer/
sullen flume
is there any way to disable input for certain keys?
tepid light
just add ifs after key events.
pine fulcrum
Either means 2 clients same machine (cant do that on steam)
Or firewall or something
uneven basin
we did try with 2 different machines and steam accounts
both report fine playing spacewars
uneven basin
bAllowP2PPacketRelay=true?
uneven basin
its on
uneven basin
could be nat issue really
I've tried getting public ip from ISP, they outright said no
welp, I'll add direct connect tomorrow
and debugger for connection errors
foggy shard
america?
uneven basin
nah, north europe
uneven basin
they said it's a policy issue, they have ip addresses
foggy shard
i got my public ip for free but it's not static
uneven basin
business lines only or something
foggy shard
you have to pay for static
uneven basin
oh static costs extra on top of the public
foggy shard
got to have good internet
uneven basin
I got solid 50/25
which is more than enough for me, I would feel bad for paying x4 for x10 bandwidth I don't use
foggy shard
i would not understand
It's only reason why i don't want to move
i got 80/80 for 7.170$
dire heart
Doing a leaderboard type thing for my game, it's a part of the story. Anyways, i need a name or two for it. Anyone want their name in my game?
somber hazel
Ninjin - 42.000 Points
dire heart
I got you
somber hazel
that was ez 🤔
somber hazel
give him 1337
somber hazel
😘
sullen flume
Any idea how to make bullet trails if for shooting, I use line traces?
Haven't found any tutorial on Line trace shooting, only for mesh projectile shooting
foggy shard
@sullen flume something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTNO4kULts4 ? I wasn't watching this tutorial just googled it
sullen flume
I know, this is how I use my weapon. With a line trace. But this does not add bullet trails. Only an explosion on hit. I would need bullet trails, but I think I just figured out how I'll do that.
lament oar
interp between the start and hit location
stable kiln
so i need to think of somekind of puzzle or mechanic fast 😛
foggy shard
oh no i forgot about something then was doing my music
well now it's pretty hard to implement and i don't even know if it's fun
sharp berry
BlueprintEditorCompileResults: Info The execution path doesn't end with a return node. NewEnumerator1
I wish it told me the location
Oh wait, it does
lament oar
try turning the volume down a bit :p
sharp berry
6 hours of continious work, can I take a break? 😛
mint flint
every 2
glass fossil
Used blueprint debugging for the first time today, previously I had made liberal use of print string. Really powerful debugging tools here.
mint flint
👍
rose gust
Did you figure out how to step through just your code in blueprints?
glass fossil
yep, discovered "Step Into" which appears to be equivalent to most debuggers Step Into for blueprint stuff but doesn't go down into the C++/API layer and so is kinda like Step Over at the same time
rose gust
It goes through Blueprint standard library, though.
pine fulcrum
IT NEEDS STEP OVER
foggy shard
anyone know some software for writing procedural music(actual sound files) ?
coz saving loops one by one it's fun
upbeat wren
its coming along, never used the mapping tools before but harambes stomping ground is coming together
tepid light
@ruby cradle is it ok to use UE4 logo as environment decoration in the game? Like a poster on the wall, etc.
small fern
rules tell to not use any trademarked logos if I remember right
tepid light
There is also a rule about not showing Epic in negative way
small fern
then again, you can use example content on your own games and they have ue4 logos all over them
so I dunno if that applies
yeah, I'd not use anything that goes in the gray zone though
tepid light
I was thinking UE4 logo is an expection since 1) they own it, 2) it is a tradition to show a logo before the game anyway
tepid light
90% of games advertise the engine logo
tepid light
nah, I mean after launch
small fern
yeah, I was thinking in game here as that's what you were originally asking about 😃
@rigid fog heh, now we know why you were too busy to not attend the gamejam ;D
tepid light
also, major update on my work: spent few hours yesterday trying to pickup dropped weapons.. With no luck. Couldn't reattach them....
workaround:
just destroy the old weapon and spawn a new, identical one in hand.
5 min of work
and it works.
small fern
yeah, whatever works 😃
it's not like these games would be production quality in code anyway
as long as it doesn't break too bad
rigid fog
Power came on a little bit ago
tepid light
Mine always start nice and clean.. And as I go along it gets ulgier and uglier..
rigid fog
I still plan on participating, but have homework to catch up on 😉
small fern
@rigid fog yeah, I'm just messing with you, I know you didn't really have a chance
glass fossil
@rigid fog with less than 2 days remaining that's some strong effort 😮
upbeat wren
Trying to work out the logic, it looks like they seperate the layer base colour then they plugin the base color to the wrong layer at the top
tepid light
It is a bit of a #humbebrag, but shooting enemies in slow-mo and watching them fall apart is so satisfying
But I also have so many ideas that I won't be able to add to the game..
That one lost day cost me a lot.
fringe aurora
how would one make a slime that has physics, think like breast physics(retains form but forces make it wobble/jiggle)
essentially jello
tepid light
If I wanted to make it fast, for the jam
I would just use a material with world offset
and some sines there
to make it look wobbly but not actually change shape
fringe aurora
not sure how to go about that tbh
tepid light
you can also just scale the whole mesh
add and event for impact
create a timeline or sine that would scale the actor
x and y increases and z decreases
to make it wider and shorter
like a compression
on landing
and then slowly returns back to normal
small fern
@fringe aurora for jiggles, just use animdynamics on unreal
it's built for that exact use case
if you need slime/blob physics for gameplay, you need to approach it totally differently
but if it's for visuals only, then the builtin anim thing is what you'd want
fringe aurora
blob physics
small fern
well
but you'll have hard time implementing that for this game jam with the remaining time
unless you are really good with physics and coding 😃
small fern
physx itself doesn't have any soft body physics
flex has but it's cuda only and not in the official ue4 builds
but...
you could still fake it
fringe aurora
I'm honestly surprised at then lack of soft body physics
small fern
well, physics driven gameplay has never been any bigger focus for unreal
even the way how they've integrated physx tells that
as it plays totally differently from computer to another
fringe aurora
am i allowed to use flex?
foggy shard
just use blend shapes and fake it
small fern
you can use anything
just disclose it
you can even just just WPO on materials if you need to fake it
or blendshapes/morphs (probably even easier to do if you are not familiar with shader approach)
small fern
yeah, it's not that hard to setup
foggy shard
then drive this morph with some blueprint
small fern
I've only briefly tested that in past
but it was really straight forwad to use
that's a really really old test project I had
from early 2015 I think
fringe aurora
I got flex (I needed/wanted it for a few things)
I'm gonna have some fun with this
foggy shard
i don't want to save 200 files manualy again
velvet echo
so many particles and lights!!!
small fern
wonder if you could have just embedded some VST to FMOD, although I'm pretty sure it doesn't support that
not for instruments anyway
velvet echo
71 for me so far
velvet echo
music, haven't even thought about music yet