#game-jam-chat

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tepid axle
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I think I worked out megajam is like 120hrs hehe

austere glade
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the quiet before the storm

brittle lintel
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I fall asleep around hour 11, total wuss I know.

austere glade
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i had to like, sleep for 2 days to recover from the last mega jam

cosmic summit
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Hey, I'm out and about but I was curious if the theme was announced yet?

austere glade
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in like, 5 hours

small fern
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hmmm, did the math, 24h * 7 days = 168 hours

dire heart
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3 hours 😄

small fern
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that leaves little less than 7 hours to sleep and eat

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although, sure, you can eat while you code

lunar tundra
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this go around, i'm limiting myself to 80 hours max. hopefully far less

austere glade
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ok lets agree on 4, they wont tell the theme till the end of the stream

lunar tundra
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definitely not going to kill myself this time

dire heart
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😄

cosmic summit
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;o

austere glade
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yea, i went too hard last time

tepid axle
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Yeah I'm going more casual this time, gonna try to focus though

austere glade
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keeping scope down this time too, not doing multiplayer either

small fern
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I've never done jam all the way seriously with finishing in mind, so I'll go with the opposite

dire heart
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That's my big thing this time, gonna aim really low. And if i get there, i can add details etc later

thin viper
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underscope, overdeliver.

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if you ever want to do a MP game, megajam is the time

small fern
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although, I'll probably still go all out on scope and fail 😄

austere glade
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its important to have an actual game too

tepid axle
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Lol

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I'm just entering me in a jar

austere glade
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lol

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"help me get out of this jar".. the end.

small fern
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there was a jar game on last megajam

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jam jar

tepid axle
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Its even better than game jam, its game dev jammed

small fern
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he's here on slackers too, just can't remember the devs nick

austere glade
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the baby on shoulders race.. i wonder whats gonna top that comedy this year

lunar tundra
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owninator will find a way

small fern
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I expect a lot of wonky physics characters and mesh slicing on this one

austere glade
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yea true

tepid axle
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Ahh yes but you don't know my cunning plan

small fern
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pong

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there, I said it

lunar tundra
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that should be the theme. "make the most kick ass pong game"

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something really stupid specific like that

small fern
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would probably get bunch of beer pong games

tepid axle
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You know people just gonna whinge bout ping in pong lol

lunar tundra
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(there will be the guy who submits the rpg he's been working on two years, renamed pong quest)

small fern
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heh

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talking of ridiculous scopes, I'd totally want to do mini-rpg

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I want an mmo

tepid light
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I want an RTS

small fern
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I mean, it's definitely doable if the scope is not huge, but all the story and assets..

lunar tundra
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i've seen rts in jams before.

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a lot of them

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*epic jams

small fern
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I can't remember many

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actually, I only remember one

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it was one of the earlier jams too

lunar tundra
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hard to recall specific entries, but i'm pretty sure i've memories of allar playing at least a couple rts-ish games

small fern
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remember to switch into voice control control scheme only if player types Allar as playername

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I dunno why I thought of that, maybe because controlling rts with voice would be incredibly tedious?

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about voice, there's also been many TTS audios on past jams

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I guess it's ok

tepid axle
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There's enough footage of Allar to write voice recognition for just him lol

small fern
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text to speech licenses don't allow that kind of use but it's for game jams only

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some have commercial licenses separately

tepid axle
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This game is passworded sorry Allar you are not allowed to play

small fern
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also, using TTS doesn't usually bring any value to the entry 😄

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one could use TTS with music soundtrackt though

lunar tundra
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the counter-point being "robo oh no"

small fern
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put those vocoders into work

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heh

tepid axle
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I don't really dig the voice overs

small fern
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robo oh no was awesome

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oh robo oh no

small fern
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I don't remember much of the gameplay though

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the memories

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loved that meme

lunar tundra
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robo oh no should have won something. there needed to be a category invented just to give it a prize

small fern
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true

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game became a meme

small fern
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funny thing is

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nobody even remembers the robo oh no's real name

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I mean the jam entry name

austere glade
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lol

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that one with the giant crushing the town with laser eyes was my fav

lunar tundra
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robo oh no's real name was robo oh no

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haha

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i remember the game play

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vaguely

austere glade
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wasnt robo oh no a side scroller

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yeah

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with traps

small fern
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yeah

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and crappy checkpoints

austere glade
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robo oh yea it was

small fern
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heh

lunar tundra
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a slacker made it, or at least was on the team. that guy who sometimes streams....

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black dude. beating my head against a table, but can't recall his name right nwo

austere glade
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Isssac?

lunar tundra
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no

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i want to say jvwanderer but that can't be right

austere glade
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cultural victory

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well, whomever it was, he/she made history

small fern
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i'm scrolling down the last megajam entries just to find it

lunar tundra
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yeah, it was jvthewanderer

small fern
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austere glade
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it was so hard to find things in that thread

small fern
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Did you make all your own assets: Yes

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yet Shawn has admitted that he didn't even make the textures himself

tepid light
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dividing into two categories is not fair

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some people only source one small thing

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other source 90%of their game

small fern
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or wait, am I mixing people here?

lunar tundra
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i pretty sure it's on a sliding scale. nobody's going to knock points for using the cylinder from starter content

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noone divides anything

small fern
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nope, same guy

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they just consider that when judging

small fern
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I don't mean cubes, but actual art

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like textures

lunar tundra
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remember, a winner of the graphics category last year used a crap load of assets from Infinite Blade

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yea

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I was so dissapointed for that

lunar tundra
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i wasn't. that game looked great.

small fern
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he too

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ALlogorithmic picked a visual candy who made like 0 assets

small fern
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game was good

austere glade
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really? that kinda sucks

small fern
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but the category was totally wrong for the win

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as it was meant to be for best art

lunar tundra
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they didn't make zero assets. there was a lot of work in that game

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a fuckton

austere glade
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dev up looked the best imo

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i mean, they took IB assets and made environemt from it

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obviously it will look better than any low poly stuff made during the jam

lunar tundra
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i agree, dev up was my personal favorite. but i think all of last year's winners deserved it

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there were no stinkers slipping through

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a bit unfair to judge visual candy category from 3rd party asseets

small fern
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^

austere glade
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yea

small fern
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I would have had no issues that game winning any other category

tepid axle
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Epic wins the jam :p

lunar tundra
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well, they disclosed the use. and they did so much work that it was hard to tell that it was infinite blade assets, minus that disclosure

austere glade
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judging would be hard, thats a lot of work for someone giving away swag

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everyone at dev days should buy allar a beer before his upcoming judging binge lol

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it was cool idea

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not much of a game though

frail palm
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@lunar tundra What about me?

austere glade
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were talking about the glory of robo oh no

lunar tundra
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@frail palm robo oh no. that was you, right?

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well, you plus a small team, if i remember right

frail palm
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I was with a team. I made the robot. I didn't say the "robo oh no" Bit though.

lunar tundra
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i thought it was a vocoder

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and you had that rap that the robot sometimes said

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how many games will go for under 100mb caterogy i wonder

glass fossil
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Getting all hype/impatient waiting for the jam to start so I produced a game jam tips video. 😃

frail palm
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Can't say for sure. I don't remember.

glass fossil
frail palm
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But I do know That I'll be joininf this game jam and will be streaming the whole week

lunar tundra
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solo this time?

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place your bets for how many windowsnoeditor games we will see

glass fossil
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Streaming the whole time? That should be really interesting to look back on the vods after and see your own thought process for the jam

thin viper
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i might record myself, dont feel comfortable streaming though

frail palm
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yep.

brittle lintel
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!gameidea

glass fossil
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A fighting game where you fight spirits to score points.

brittle lintel
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so generic

glass fossil
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Nice, might jump in the stream every once and awhile during jam breaks

scenic venture
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how many people are taking off all week of work for this jam again?

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I do

thin viper
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i wish i could, no more PTO 😦

frail palm
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I taking all week off.

glass fossil
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All week off here too

tepid light
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Same here

small fern
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lets just hope epic will not postpone anything because of the hurricane ;p

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that would suck

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when people have reserved the time for this already

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would make no sense on a global event

small fern
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you'd think so yeah

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but Alexander said last time he'll look into what could be done about the hurricane situation

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btw

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that hurricane, how long is it expected to last?

lunar tundra
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that might just mean giving everyone an extra couple days

small fern
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heh, people will be so burned out if they do that ;D

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hey wasup, we have a flood here ik uk, giff us 1day +

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makes no sense

austere glade
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it looks like the hurrican will be a class 1 on sunday night breaking off to the ocean

tepid axle
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Global hurricanes

tepid light
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that might me the theme

tepid axle
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As long as its not Zombie Apocalypse

tepid light
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Zombie Hurricane

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of Apocalypse

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now on Netflix

tepid axle
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Lol Zombie Hurricane vs Sharknado

thin viper
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A hurricane by which sharks fall out of

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zombie sharks.

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game theme right there

small fern
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I'd be ok with Zombie Apocalypse

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would do Fallout clone :p

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with single level 😄

dire heart
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Whats great about making a fallout clone is that it just works

small fern
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nah, you gotta clone the bugs too

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part of the deal

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haha

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theme - At least one major glitch!

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have to intentionally glitch the game 😄

lunar tundra
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you win if allar's computer explodes

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I remember if you overload his gpu his power fuse blows

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so not that hard ;

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@pine fulcrum Prepare for the power blackouts 😄

tepid light
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Make it simpler: Bonus points for anyone who can make Allar give up. And double points if he quits the stream completly

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haha 😄

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bounus points if he says god damn it 5x

lunar tundra
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not hard to make allar give up during a megajam. 150 entries * 30 minutes = 75 hours

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wait

thin viper
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wat

tepid light
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There are 200 teams. So I expect more than 200 entries

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that a lot anyway

granite lion
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[*] Allar

small fern
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well

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most of the games will not last 30 minutes

granite lion
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yeah

small fern
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but some last for several hours

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well 1+ anyway

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some go for 5 in

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min*

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i'd take average 15 per game

small fern
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50 minutes till stream now

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hype yer beards

tepid light
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So, we will meet here in two hours to talk about how hard the theme is?

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nah

tepid light
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Or how rules are still not precise enough?

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once deving starts 0 procrastination from me

tepid light
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He he. I started playing factorio again last week. If my game will turn out poor, you can assume my factory is doing great.

small fern
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lol

tepid light
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Procrastination is responsible for all my failures in life. And the more time I have, the worse it is. :)

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its the same for everyone 😄

stable kiln
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still dont have a team 😛

tepid light
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go solo

quiet dawn
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what can you do?

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@quiet dawn It has to be an Must have followup sentence after saying that you need a team

uneven basin
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460sec hype

small fern
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oculus stream ongoing too now

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such bad timing 😄

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@stable kiln there was some member here asking to team up, like day ago

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can't remember the nickname though

stable kiln
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was it me? cuz he is pretty cool 😛

small fern
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lol

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what

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unreal engine is mirroring oculus?

dire heart
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Yeah, whats up with that? xD

small fern
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We'll be hosting the OC3 Keynote on the Unreal Engine channel leading into the stream, then we'll kick off the Epic MegaJam live!

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well, makes sense now

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just said about bad timing 😄

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uneven basin
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wut is OC3

glass fossil
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Epic is doing an annoucement right now on stream for a new VR game

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no wonder they wanted to delay the jam stream a few minutes 😄

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new unreal tourney?

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pls pls

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awww 😦

glass fossil
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VR Game about blowing robots away, based on the bullet train demo code

small fern
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robo oh no

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tepid light
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Humor in that trailer was great.

small fern
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kind weird that Epic went for Oculus Touch exclusive though

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after Sweeney being so vocal about locking into platforms

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they've done platform exclusives on consoles in past but this is different

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it's about VR device

tepid light
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is it going to be an exclusive?

small fern
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which shouldn't even have exclusives

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it says on that site I linked

tepid light
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well, most of the exclusives are timed anyway

small fern
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hope so

tepid light
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but it's a bit sad nonetheless

small fern
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still bad for VR

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would need as many titles for all gear to play as possible

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oh that sucks

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they are going exclusive way

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feeling threated by vive huh

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watch people making mods extending its compatibility to vive controllers

glass fossil
manic ether
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Dang it. Its so late starting I'm going to be in a meeting.

small fern
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yayy

glass fossil
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is that perfume?

small fern
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4 minutes to get snack

glass fossil
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good music

small fern
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freestyle Alexander

calm bough
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theme is otaku kawaii

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I prefer the micro wave

manic ether
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OMG. I'd be ready for it

upbeat wren
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Harambe theme, I'm calling it now

sullen flume
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can we already know what is the theme of the game jam? My internet connection is slow to watch a live stream

grizzled zenith
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hype 😛

upbeat wren
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It's harambe bot

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theme

sullen flume
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oh okay, but what is that?

tepid light
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@sullen flume theme will be displayed in the forum thread

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no need to watch the stream

sullen flume
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oh, thanks

tepid light
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Wasp is joking. Theme is not known right now

sullen flume
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:))) okay, thank you

austere glade
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aww yea

small fern
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well

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theme is known now already

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Total Recall

austere glade
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theme is robo oh no

small fern
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I thought Robo Oh No

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but total recall fits so well

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it has to be it

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oh wait

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I meant to type total recall 😄

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fixed

austere glade
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THIS IS IT

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SETTLE THE SCORE

tepid light
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First impression: Kinda nice.

small fern
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ha

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no recall

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yeah, this could work

tepid light
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None of my ideas fit - good.

austere glade
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last year was what, shoulders of giants?

small fern
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ye

glass fossil
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Theme is Settle The Score!

grizzled zenith
topaz scroll
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Ok just having a ton of ideaas! xD

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💥

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So just starting an empty C++ project xD

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let the games begin ^^

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thx @glass fossil for the link xD

small fern
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there was one team without member count so I assumed it was one person

tepid light
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I'm so tempted to just make an fps...

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but that is so typical

small fern
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heh, I thought about that prior to jam

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but I don't really feel like doing that

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it's a game genre I've never really wanted to dev for

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yet I've done one fps game with unity

tepid light
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"Shoot someone" is a grate fit for the theme. But that is too easy

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need something smarter

frail palm
glass fossil
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grizzled zenith
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Currently at 0 ideas

tepid light
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Im currently at 3.. And all feel like to much work

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All would require animations

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I could just buy them from the markeplace.. but thats not a sound investment.

stable kiln
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well the idea i have i can do in one day

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simple and dirty

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0 chance on winning anything

small fern
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you could be the first one to submit

cosmic summit
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hey, any team looking for 1 more newbie? =]

small fern
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@tepid light mixamo has free animations

stable kiln
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yea, but im to lazy for that, ill just wait til last day and rush it

cosmic summit
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lol

stable kiln
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hmm, now im temted to team up again

small fern
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you have ghostik here

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wish discord had search

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you could just search for people who posted looking for a team here

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having long conv history is one thing but when you have no means to search it...

stable kiln
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yea, i might want to team, anything u like to do, i think ill 3d model and do some seq

austere glade
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remember last year when someone submitted like half a day after it started lol

small fern
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lol

lunar tundra
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yeah, that was kitusus

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spelled that wrong i'm sure

austere glade
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was it? lol

cosmic summit
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my background is in web development and tech., i did attend full sail's computer animation program in 2013, well i'm sure you could picture what might of happened back then lol, anyway

stable kiln
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yea it was kipatos i think 😛

cosmic summit
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i'm not new to UE4, but i'm new to UE4 work

stable kiln
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well i usually just make some dumb shit 😃

cosmic summit
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lol i don't expect anything less =]

indigo bobcat
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uhh all my ideas are having the need for some AI and i have no idea how any of that works

lunar tundra
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fake it

stable kiln
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yea make it multiplayer and stand by ur pc

lunar tundra
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if an enemy dies 2 seconds after it's spawned, it doesn't need to be all that smart

indigo bobcat
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haha

sharp berry
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Settle the score == revenge?

lunar tundra
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you can just have it move towards the player

glass fossil
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@sharp berry that is mostly correct

sharp berry
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Oki, thanks :3

stable kiln
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@cosmic summit wunna give team a shot? 😛

glass fossil
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someone does something to you, or inbalances you in some way, and you bring things back into balance. Usually through violence or monetary pressure

small fern
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settling the score could mean just paying any debt

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it doesn't have to mean revenge

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you may even owe someone money

lunar tundra
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the implication is revenge

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the strong implication

small fern
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yeah, sure

upbeat wren
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Settling the score! could be sports!! 😛

olive steeple
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small fern
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but we can do all kinds of interpretations from it that are all sound and correct

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heh

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now everyone gets that rockey league ripoff asset from marketplace 😄

sharp berry
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A metafore usually has just 1 meaning

lunar tundra
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there's no need to take the idiom as is. you could parse the words in any number of ways.

small fern
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well

lunar tundra
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like, you need your score to be settled at a precise value to win

small fern
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for once, this one is hard to do like just using the words alone

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like if you think of the speak softly and carry a big stick

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a lot of games had sticks and smooth talking

stable kiln
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sooo, who wants to join this team for great glory? 😛

small fern
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anyway, I'm going to get the dog out now and then start working on the game, good luck everyone!

lunar tundra
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gl

sharp berry
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I rather work solo, goodluck tho @stable kiln 😛

sullen flume
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So, Settle the score is the theme?

sharp berry
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This one is hard again...

sweet flame
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it's always hard

somber hazel
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already got an idea and I won't kill my baby :3

round flower
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Yeah, the themes they drop never disapoint in that realm... hmmm

sweet flame
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I have several ideas, but they are so obvious

tepid light
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I just came up with something amazing

round flower
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I really don't want to run around shooting folks... trying to think of something clever/different

sweet flame
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And I don't have enough skill to make ordinary idea to great game

tepid light
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100% unique idea 😃

sweet flame
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I also don't want unique ideas 😄 to hard to implement right i such short period of time 😄 at least for me

tepid light
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for me too.

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I'm pretty sure I won't be able to make it work

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but I can waste one day on a risky idea

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and still create a backup one in the rest of the time

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if my first attempt fails

sweet flame
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I usually try to find two very simple mechanics that would work well together and create something interesting

glass fossil
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The first thing I pictured as a non native english speaker was a bunch of numbers that are trying to find a quiet place to live somewhere...

sweet flame
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😃

fringe aurora
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So what is the theme

round flower
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Settle The Score

placid cloud
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Hey, does anyone want to team up for the game jam? I can create all of the assets and animations if someone else wants to script?

fringe aurora
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RIGHT HERE

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Mememe

placid cloud
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Really?

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sweet

glass fossil
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Metoometoometoo

placid cloud
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let's form a squad

fringe aurora
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Squad up

placid cloud
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can we make a private group or something

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im new to this site

fringe aurora
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yeah lemme do that

dire heart
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Good luck guys! 😄

sullen flume
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Good luck all!

pine fulcrum
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Have two crazy ping pong players play at superhuman speed

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Your job is to keep score

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#throwaway

somber hazel
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#miliondollaridea

iron epoch
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Good luck everyone!

cosmic summit
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@stable kiln def. i'm down

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i read an article about a bodybuilder that succeeded with his business, his main motivation was to kill his haters with success

fringe aurora
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how into the m rating can we go with this game

stable kiln
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there is a movie about that

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he gave stippers a free pass for his gym so other ppl would come to his gym :p

small fern
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hmmmm, wonder where the line goes on gore / violence, I mean, theme practically shouts it all over it

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Submission may not depict nudity, animal cruelty, or illegal activity or substance, or offensive or obscene subject matter as determined in Sponsor’s sole discretion.
Submissions must be appropriate for a broad audience since the winning Submission may be broadcast on the internet.

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so, no animal cruelty, human cruelty is still ok

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not sure about the broad audience thing

stable kiln
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but baby seal clubbing is a real profesion yo

cosmic summit
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@stable kiln lol that would do it

stable kiln
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soo, any1 else want in on this team? its gunna be good 😛

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completely destry the competition

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and all that under 100 mb

scenic venture
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@cosmic summit hatrid is the best motivation

cosmic summit
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if people hate what they don't understand, does that make it the best and worst motivation lol?

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yea, it must simply depend on the outcome

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like i hate team based match making systems, but i'm still motivated to compete lol

stable kiln
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@cosmic summit lets get this party started 😃

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any1 else is still free to join

hollow geyser
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Evening lads. Ideas, anyone got one or half of one or anything, because fuck me am I stumped.

quiet thistle
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its pretty open ended theme, settle the score could be tons of things

cosmic summit
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settling the score, how about that fact that it's in our blood

quiet thistle
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heres an idea, you could have like a scoreboard... but its characterized as a pet animal. And its like, super pissed off and you gotta feed it treats to make him settle down.

stable kiln
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@cosmic summit i send a friend req, is discord a good place to organize things?

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we should make some channel or something? 😛

cosmic summit
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sure is, do you have a mic?

stable kiln
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yea, but its pretty crappy 😛

sharp berry
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!gameidea

glass fossil
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A fighting game where you swipe moustaches in the year 30,000 but you keep randomly teleporting.

cosmic summit
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lol it's ok, i've got some background noise atm

hollow geyser
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!gameidea

glass fossil
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An action game where you control gorillas to save the environment and you're the last of your kind.

stable kiln
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so, how do we make a channel? 😛

cosmic summit
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scroll down on the left till you see me, then join in

sharp berry
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You tag @civic dock and ask him nicely for a private room :p

lunar tundra
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is the slack slack still open? you could go back there and make a room

sharp berry
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Nop, Slack is deleted

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Gone for ever

lunar tundra
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that's sad. still, you could just make a team on Slack.

hexed falcon
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Or make your own server on Discord. Probably easier?

honest lintel
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!gameidea

glass fossil
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A strategy game where you eliminate giant robots to solve a mystery in the year 30,000.

quiet dawn
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@proven badge I was not sure whether I really want to participate in the Game Jam or not

proven badge
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haha, wan'st ment to you. It was to owninantor looking for a team

quiet dawn
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ah ok that makes sense

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I kinda wanna participate in the game jam, but I also don't have time

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and I do not have a team either, lol

dire heart
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@quiet dawn No damage in giving it a shot!

uneven basin
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!gameidea

glass fossil
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A puzzle game where you survive an invasion of portals to find love.

uneven basin
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oh bot, some day I will understand you

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and your grand visions

quiet dawn
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it only takes time, and thats my biggest constraint 😄

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i honestly think this bot is super legit

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!gameidea

glass fossil
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A horror game where you surprise ogres to avenge your family.

uneven basin
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I can't come up anything else than ball games for the jam theme

quiet dawn
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can you do Multiplayer games?

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or do they need to be SP?

uneven basin
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sure

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MP is not required, but I don't think you get extra points from it either

lunar tundra
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last year, a multiplayer game won the megajam

uneven basin
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didn't the whale game win last year?

lunar tundra
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i was thinking of that baby racing game

uneven basin
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oh the mall racing

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that was pretty neat too

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I think it came second

lunar tundra
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top three last year were the whale game, mall racing, and the book game with the robot

uneven basin
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yea

rigid fog
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Looking for one more 3D artist for the team

somber hazel
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Any idea which Plug-ins reduce the package file?

uneven basin
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every plugin

somber hazel
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aren't some Plugins optimized to not blow you size? 😅

uneven basin
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Editor is pretty good at snipping stuff that isn't used

somber hazel
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I cut all the stuff that seems unnecessary and I'm still at 116

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kay kay, removing all Plugins removes the plugin bar 😄

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still 116

tepid light
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Pro tip. There is an option to compress content

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in settings

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that saves 30 MB, or more

somber hazel
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yes, I did all the stuff mentioned in

quiet dawn
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I have some Idea for you @uneven basin
Two players have some belongings, family, house, peasants, whatever
One Player has like 60 seconds to destroy as much of your opponents life as possible, after that the other player needs to revenge on his opponent
also a score that measures the amount of damage you did

somber hazel
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so, to get under the 115mb you have to blacklist stuff?

uneven basin
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@quiet dawn so catlateral damage, but multiplayer?

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which is a game where you are a cat and you must knock over stuff in timelimit

quiet dawn
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Yeah, going, in that direction
but I think I would do it more in an "RPG" Style, Sidescroller or whatever

somber hazel
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@tepid light Did you get an empty project that was under 115mb? ❤

tepid light
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Yes. Empty project was below 80

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But under 60 is possible

somber hazel
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And how?

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pretty please ❤

topaz scroll
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even lower ^^

tepid light
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@small fern did it. Not me

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Ask him.

quiet dawn
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you need a clever way how to symbolize family, like playing stones or something

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like some used in a board game

tepid light
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I had only 80

somber hazel
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Even 80 would be a dream for me

quiet dawn
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still alot of work tho, i think doable with 5, but hardly alone^^

uneven basin
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Do ball sports fit to the jam theme?

somber hazel
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I read the docs everyone was posting here, except blacklisting, there is no way for me to get under 115mb @tepid light

tepid light
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Compressing content and removing extras should go below 100

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Shipping build

somber hazel
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4.13?

topaz scroll
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There are ways to get under that limit even under the 40 mark

tepid light
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yes

somber hazel
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supported platforms - windows only?

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and we are talking about the file size of the default WindowsNoEditor , right?

uneven basin
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aight, time to set up the project then hit the bed

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every jam starts with a solid nap

somber hazel
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also, 32bit I guess?

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and package for windows?

tepid light
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No, I did 64

somber hazel
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gives me 142

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which makes sense

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am I blind or something? ❤

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also, did you download UE4 from source?

tepid light
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Uncheck include prerequisites

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check "For distribution"

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I also did full rebuild, but I don't know if that helps.

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probably not

somber hazel
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90, don't get why I should uncheck "For Distribution" after reading the tooltip

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will try full rebuild

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doesn't seem to make any difference in file size

tepid light
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I don't know how. This is the result of my experiments, not my deep understading of the engine.

somber hazel
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it's not like anyone here has a deep understanding of the engine

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it's just sad when people point you to something and tell you if you read the docs you get under 100 mb

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which is obviously a lie, you need to dig deeper

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also a lot of the plugins dont take any space

tepid light
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I didn't bother with plugins

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too small too matter

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as I never tried to go as low as possible

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my game will probably fit in 20 MB of content

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but I'm not sure if i will even try

somber hazel
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well, if you got a secret how you get under 90mb I would feel more comfortable if you said you have one, people telling me read the docs and you automatically get under 100mb makes me feel everyone is lying/ me feel like a retard

tepid light
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I don't remember what else I did.

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I think that was all

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maybe you have example (starter) content added?

foggy shard
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do searching for a team works here?

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i am not sure if i want to go for "Army of One"

somber hazel
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and provided the screenshot

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except blacklisting ofc

small fern
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well

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you don't get automatically there just by reading the docs literally

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but it's not that hard to figure out, just follow the docs + check what's there on packaging settings

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you'll see the obvious bits then

somber hazel
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kay kay, DISABLE CRASH REPORTER

small fern
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one option is to not just target 100MB ;D

tulip barn
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Hey I’m Shane, I’m 28, living in Scotland currently doing my honours degree in Audio for games at the University of Abertay In Dundee. I can play guitar, bass, piano and write music digitally, design sound and know my way around the unreal engine.
If you would like to know more and/or here my stuff I will be happy to send to a link to my (unfinished) website and email/facebook. All the best.

foggy shard
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what if i target Army of One and 100mb one

small fern
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you can target all

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you can stil win any of the categories

foggy shard
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i think i can do that but game going yo be boring full of procedural textures

small fern
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and even if you win like 100mb one, you can still win finalist position too

somber hazel
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one option would be someone tells me, "nah, reading that doc article won't help, you need to blacklist things, but for that you need to know what you are doing", then I could be happy and just throw the category away

small fern
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@tulip barn if you are looking for a team, I think @stable kiln and @cosmic summit might have room on their group

rigid fog
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Still looking for final slot for team. Need another artist

small fern
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@somber hazel you definitely don't need to blacklist thing to get well under 100

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but I kinda promised to myself not to help too much on that as it's still optional challenge 😃

foggy shard
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hm musical game about Scores!

somber hazel
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I thought the challenge on this category is to use low art assets

small fern
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@somber hazel all the info is on the doc + if you use common sense when you look at packaging settings

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it's about everything

foggy shard
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proc gen textures is like 4 kb

somber hazel
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and not how to study the whole engine to get an advantage in a category 😄

frail palm
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Question when coming up with character idea how detail can ya'll get for the gamejam?

rigid fog
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Up to you?

small fern
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and your skills

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if you are total noob with art tools, may not want to try too hard ;p

rigid fog
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I would assume, the better the detail, the better the chances for a win

glass fossil
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In some cases it might be better not to waste time trying to figure out how to do a category when just working on a good game regardless of restrictions would get you more progress.

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So if trying to get under 100mb would take too much of your time, just toss it away.

small fern
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yeah

tepid light
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Yea.. I don't need to try to be in the one man army categry. But I would have to try to get below 100MB

somber hazel
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nah, it's fine, it's not like Im doing jams for winning anyway ;P

small fern
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I'd really love to help more on that too, but it's like helping the competition at this point 😄

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I'll give you this though

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read the megajam thread

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people threw tips there

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it's just like 3 pages long

glass fossil
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@small fern you keep being like "I don't want to give away all the answers.... but here are the answers 😆 "

small fern
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yeah, I know, I suck at this

somber hazel
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no, someone here just told me "do the things described in the docs, you are fine then" which was a lie :3

small fern
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it's not

somber hazel
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it is, because you still need to know what to uncheck/check in the package options

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whatever, I got it now

glass fossil
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But in that case you're asking for the challenge to be compelted for you

somber hazel
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like I said, I thought the challenge is to use low art assets

tulip barn
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Thanks for the tip @small fern

small fern
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it's about getting the game into small size

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it's overal thing

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not just art

somber hazel
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yeah, we think different, which is okay ❤

tepid light
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Lol.

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its going fast

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2h, and I have a game

small fern
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lol

tepid light
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as in the cylinder is moving.

small fern
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I've been watching movie references for additional ideas on setting

tepid light
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and deals damage

quiet dawn
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@small fern whats is your game about? or is that a secret?

small fern
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it's about settling the score ;D

tepid light
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hehe

small fern
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I probably wont share any specifics until jam is over, may post some art though

tepid light
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and now I don't know what to do next.

glass fossil
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small fern
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"art"

tepid light
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I need a plan

glass fossil
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All the details of the jam you need are in there 😃

small fern
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but I guess programmer art is art too

quiet dawn
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I thought you would stream your development anyways, so I thought maybe you could tell 😄

small fern
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I won't, that must have been someone else

glass fossil
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jv is

small fern
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I'll probably just record wip videos after each day, upload them but just publish on submission post, so I'll have some kind of progress there

frail palm
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I am.

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So My idea have something to do with love.

ruby cradle
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@small fern I endorse this message: "We prefer you make all the gamejam content during the jam but if you so use any assets made outside of the game-jam (sourced assets, templates etc) you need to disclose them on your submission"

small fern
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yeah, it's just more clear when it's in written form, as some just read the forum thread for rules

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although, I'm sorry for nitpicking on rules, I don't want to ruin the fun by being that guy

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@ruby cradle but since you are here, I have a single question for you. How much gore can we put into jam entries? 😄

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I read the rules, only thing I found was "needs to be able to be streamable"

cosmic summit
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@tulip barn hey, we're in the lounge voice channel kickstarting the project

foggy shard
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@ruby cradle what about modified old stuff as assets? declare too?

maiden loom
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SO WHO'S FINISHED :D?

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declare

glass fossil
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@maiden loom almost done, just have to tighten up the graphics on level 3

maiden loom
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hah!

small fern
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@foggy shard he said that on the stream as well I think. Everything done outside of this jam period, whether it's assets you've made yourself, or by someone else will need to be disclosed

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it doesn't mean you can't do that

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you just need to mention that so judges will know to not give you points for work you've done outside of the jam

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@foggy shard actually, it's on the forum page too

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List any content that was created before the jam that was included in the final submission.
This does affect the score, as we judge on what is made during the jam's timeframe. Submitting an entry with pre-made content that is not disclosed may lead to disqualification.

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stable kiln
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@tulip barn did u see the pm?

foggy shard
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ok cool

tulip barn
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Just reading it now @stable kiln

foggy shard
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but what about utility node in substance designer is it something i need to declare or it is a bit too much?

stable kiln
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np 😃

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yea an hour or 2 i think

foggy shard
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or base mesh for something

tepid light
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I need a good plan on the order of things to work on.

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I already have a problem with this 😛

velvet echo
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My main problem is always figuring out a game design that would win a competition, and implementing it

glass fossil
ruby cradle
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@small fern Yeah... it's more or less like "If it is reaching into AO, don't"

glass fossil
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Decided to start with a GDD

ruby cradle
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@foggy shard Declare those plz

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@small fern Finding the right approach to pre-made content is tricky when we want to allow solo-devs to feel empowered still. Can you shoot me a forum PM with that idea for a template?

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I'm running around like a crazy person and I don't want to lose track of it

foggy shard
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@ruby cradle probably declaring software that i used for creating assets is good idea too yes?

small fern
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@ruby cradle what's AO?

foggy shard
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ambient occlusion?

small fern
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@ruby cradle also not sure if the template thing is really a huge issue, some will do it anyway and save like half day with it but it's not going to turn the game good or bad itself

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just thought it would be nice that everyone would have same starting point when the jams start

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but if templates need to be disclosed anyway, that actually solves the whole thing

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I wonder if that AO was about the gore question

upbeat wren
small fern
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getting sidetracked again

upbeat wren
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@ruby cradle I'm developing an idea now but before I proceed into the content of it, I might need to ask your advice on if it would be appropiate

acoustic crater
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Probably not if you gotta ask :D

ruby cradle
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AO is the ESRB rating of "Adult Only"

upbeat wren
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aye it's void of nudity, swearing, gore

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I'll pm you it

ruby cradle
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Sorry, it's like PEGI 18

acoustic crater
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But you can do it in the Style of "Conquers bad Fur Day" everything is fine

ruby cradle
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About to go home for the day, so I'll have to get back to you all soon

small fern
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ah 😃

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hey one more thing

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I just read the detailed rules from sponsors

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there's this thing that sounds bit alarming

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All entries become the property of the Sponsor.

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@ruby cradle ^

acoustic crater
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Wut cO

small fern
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basically that mean we give up all rights to the jam entry

upbeat wren
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hmm

small fern
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so if we want to develop the game after jam, it might not be possible

acoustic crater
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for the purpose of promoting the Contest and future versions of the Contest and Sponsor’s Unreal Engine marketing, but for no other purpose

small fern
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it's not on "Contest Rules" but it's in "Falcon NW", "Speedtree", "Intel" and "Houdini" rules

tepid light
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Yea, what?

upbeat wren
#

I have an idea but alexander has went home, It might be controversial to use :/ bugger

small fern
#
Incomplete, garbled, corrupted or illegible entries are void and will not be accepted. Sponsor is not responsible for lost, late, damaged, delayed, destroyed, misdirected, or incomplete entries. All entries become the property of the Sponsor. Persons discovered entering under multiple identities will be disqualified. Sponsor reserves the right to disqualify false entries or entries suspected of being false. In the event of a dispute as to the identity of a Selected Sweepstakes Entrant, the Selected Entrant```
acoustic crater
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Yeah just read that =/ those license Rules sound a bit fishy not exactly clear for non experts what they actually mean

upbeat wren
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@civic dock Is there anyone from the UE team I'm allowed to ping to ask a question for the gamejam? alexander just left before I had a chance

small fern
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I kinda wonder if that actually means the persons personal details or the jam entry itself

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not sure if it's good on other aspect either

rancid aurora
#

Welp I have an idea but 0 idea of how to impliment it well. Classic start

small fern
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I don't want to sell my soul to them 😄

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well, I'll keep working on the game, but if that rule is still up unclarified, I might not be able to submit

tepid light
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It would be nice to get a response from Alexander. That an important problem.

rigid fog
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He doesn't work 24/7, cut him some slack

tepid light
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sure

small fern
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they had similar rule on first jam or was it on megajam too

tepid light
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I don't mean right now

rigid fog
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Then use some common sense

small fern
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they changed it when people found out

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no wait

tepid light
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I mean before the deadline 😃

small fern
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the rule was, that you couldn't show the work yourself for half a year or something back then I think

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anyway, as silly rule as that one

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just giving someone right to your IP without getting anything in return is just really fishy

brittle lintel
#

i dont like that line at all.

small fern
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yeah, it's not like most of us would keep developing the game after jam, but that pretty much tells we waive our rights to even consider that

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unless it refers just to our personal details, for marketing etc purposes

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without knowing more, I'd still read that entry is your game submission

tepid light
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Owning a submission doesn't mean they own theoretical game that you expand your submission to.

foggy shard
#

you probably not going to have same version if you release game jam game

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and if they own one from game jam it isn't that big deal

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but if you create some ip characters "Coolest Character Design" that is a problem

tepid light
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Ok, 3h of work on day zero, I have a working basic mechanics and I'm going to sleep. Better to wake up early than to waste a night. At least at this early stage.

foggy shard
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but probably going to be very hard to defend in court

tepid light
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I'm sure there is an explanation.

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One thing:

foggy shard
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yeah so you don't sue them in court for showing off your submission 😃

tepid light
#

if this line is in all rules, than what? All sponsord own the submission?

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*sponsors?

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I don't think they would like to share 😛

velvet echo
#

0 hours of work on day 0 😦

foggy shard
#

probably just lawyer that overly protective i didn't know better

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also yeah so many companies having all the rights it's just mad 😃

small fern
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@tepid light yeah I was wondering that too 😄

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as it's on all sponsors rules

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so we just waive our rights to our work and let sponsors fight over it 😄

#

I'm sure that line is not meant to be there like that, it's that legal jargon that people stuff into licenses/rules without thinking it fully through

#

it was like that previously too when they had that rule you couldn't share your own work for half a year etc

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like, no streaming, no youtube etc

foggy shard
#

it's pretty hard to get it right in a small form

small fern
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yeah, not really blaming anyone for that, just wish that part would have a second look

glass fossil
#

@velvet echo so what would you say was your main blocker of making progress?

velvet echo
#

thinking of an idea that i could complete 😄

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especially since i am planning on soloing this

glass fossil
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An action game where you clobber rocks for glory.

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!gameidea settle the score

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There ya go 😄

small fern
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let's just assume rocks made fun of you first

glass fossil
#

seriously though, don't over think the game idea, just go with something you like

foggy shard
#

can i think that scores is music scores?

glass fossil
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sure why not? 😃

small fern
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it can be anything that fits the theme

foggy shard
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is it?

glass fossil
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understanding of the theme is subjective

small fern
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it can be sports, revenge, musical score, paying dept, anything you could interpret like that

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obviously the saying is about payback/revenge but that's just the most obvious pick

foggy shard
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like little game about making music as composer

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arcade

glass fossil
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as long as the composer has to "settle" the music score

small fern
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pretty much, yeah

foggy shard
#

well you put it on paper and finish it

#

i can literally put "settle the scores" text in last five seconds of the game and it's a name of faster button mushing

glass fossil
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I'll just say that for my own entry, every word in the phrase was analyzed to see how far it could stretch

foggy shard
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it's just something that i can probably do alone in 100mb size

small fern
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I have had idea for the game ever since the theme got out, just trying to figure how it all comes together on gameplay side

foggy shard
#

i was a bit late to discover that game jam started

small fern
#

well, not many hours lost 😃

foggy shard
#

so do we have countdown clock?

small fern
#

hmmm, there doesn't appear to be one, they must have forgot

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they don't even have exact time on the forum thread

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I think it's safe to assume you have time at least till the next weeks thursdays stream starts

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can't remember if it was till the stream ends or starts though

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but basically

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when it's on 7 days sharp, you should have your submission in, or if they add that additional time there, it's that + half to one hour tops

tepid axle
#

Wtf is with this theme

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I can't do fuck all with this sigh

silver swan
#

its like the most open ended theme they have ever had

tepid axle
#

No its actually very specific but I'm just gonna ignore it

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If they want a grude match they got one

silver swan
#

they probably purposely used score so people can work with that element if they dont use the standard definition of settle the score

thin viper
#

we have a team of three and im the only programmer sweats

tepid axle
#

Yeah but by putting score in there everyone is gonna be using it

silver swan
#

they have the 100mb category as well so something simple involving score is probably the key for that

tepid axle
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Id just prefer the less literal is all, it doesn't really affect my plans

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I'm just on the train of, if I were making a fully story based title I could do this justice

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Id be really impressed if someone submitted a story based TPS

silver swan
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there will be every type of game imaginable i expect probably around 300 of them and some unimaginable ones

tepid axle
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Doubt it, I'm usually pretty dissapointed even with my own work, I'm a tougher crowd than most

pearl roost
civic dock
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Basically every definition for the word "score."

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^_^

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There's a lot of definitions to work with here.

gray cedar
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I'm gonna make a story based TPS

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not

small fern
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I think theme leaves pretty much room for various gameplay mechanics

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anyway

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first total editor freeze now 😄

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this isn't starting well

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I just tried to open material

tepid axle
#

I'm gonna make a game bout bonkin the ex

small fern
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😄

tepid axle
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Get it, settling an old score trololol

small fern
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well, you could just revenge on ex in all kinds of ways too

tepid axle
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Lol well that's no where near where I was headed so its okay

small fern
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yeah, I figured 😄

tepid axle
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It is limiting in that it implies some sort of versus

civic dock
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That's not necessarily true.

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Settle has many meanings, too.

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This is easily one of the most flexible themes they've ever used.

small fern
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way better than last megajam anyway

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for theme that is

civic dock
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It's a good one for sure.

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I'm envious.

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I don't have time to participate.

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So have a blast for me, will ya? 😄

glass fossil
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Game scenario is moving along smoothly here. Hoping to have it all whiteboarded by end of day so that programming can start tomorrow.

foggy shard
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game about law and some settling scores with patent trolls or something
and if this true All entries become the property of the Sponsor.
then the game going to be ironic

gray cedar
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I think I know what I'm going to do now

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thank you, denzel washington

tepid axle
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@Nick I know what youre saying but the phrase as a whole has a very specific meaning that dates back centuries

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if they wanted us to play on words more than 2 words would have been nice

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I can actually just make what I was already thinking, the theme doesnt matter at all

small fern
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@gray cedar loved that movie as well 😃

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I'm still doing packaging test runs

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only if I had blank starting project ready :p

tepid axle
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I just woke up and havent even started yet, I got plenty of time though, its not a rush to get to UE

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I actually wanted to design something this time not just throw a heap of clone juice in a basket

small fern
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I've been stripping down fps c++ template for a while already

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also got some funky motion controller errors even before I started removing things

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that's always a good sign 😄

tepid axle
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have you done any actual work yet?

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I was thinkin of using Unity, hows that for settling the score epic... 😄

small fern
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nah

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I need to get the project slimmed down first

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so I know how much content I can put under 100mb

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almost there

sharp berry
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238 teams so far, many with multiple people in a team, I'm screwed 😄

tepid axle
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Im gonna enjoy watching you all squirm 😛

foggy shard
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I wonder what number I am going to have there

sharp berry
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You didnt sign up?

foggy shard
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just now

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239 probably

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but i want 242

silver swan
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my team hasnt even registered so i would imaagine others havent either so submission number is going to be high lol

foggy shard
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  • time zones
glass fossil
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specially since pre-registration wasn't a requirement, just a suggestion, there will be teams that decide to forget that part

foggy shard
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there should be some stats about that

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but this one isn't normal so multiply by 3

silver swan
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it took allar i think 4 to 5 days of streaming last mega jam so this year will be a week easy id say

small fern
sharp berry
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You're keeping track of that? 😮

small fern
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one man army will definitely be hard to beat

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I made excel that can calculate that automatically when I just copy/paste the list there

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and was curious on stats

foggy shard
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2 3 4 dos't have advantage of being in extra wining thing

small fern
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well, it's not about winning for most people

foggy shard
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also 1 now 130 just isn't counted yet

small fern
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more about challenge

foggy shard
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0lento how you managed to be 1st in a list?

sharp berry
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So 522 people in total, the raffle is going to be a b*tch

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so far..

small fern
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I pre-registered when the thread was up 😄

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so, like 3 weeks in advance

foggy shard
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lol nice

small fern
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I tend to be near top of the lists anyway if they sort them alphabetically

foggy shard
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that will make your game most playable probably

small fern
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since the nick starts with zerro

foggy shard
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like by people and stuff

small fern
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I dunno, I think people still look at the description and images / possible video

sharp berry
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That depends on when you submit it, you may be first to signup, but if your last to submit, you may be like #300 😛

foggy shard
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pressing 1st link is like easy 😃

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also if it's less then 100mb

small fern
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oh right

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got the packaging sorted out

foggy shard
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well there going to be links

small fern
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now can start working on core framework

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will probably not touch the actual game related stuff until tomorrow

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or well, today really but I need to sleep at some point

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first day basically goes on doing the "game jam template"

sharp berry
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I think I wont touch any actual gameplay till sunday (my family decided to steal my saterday away with crappy family activities (people have stuff to do you know -.-)

small fern
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ouch

foggy shard
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it's 4 am here

small fern
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4:41 AM here

sharp berry
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at least i've already finished the rough concept idea, made concept drawings... at least it wont be flying in the dark

foggy shard
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well i dropped minutes 😃

small fern
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where are you from?

foggy shard
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we are in a same time zone

sharp berry
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Still in the witching hour here, 3:42am 😛

foggy shard
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moscow

small fern
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ah, Helsinki here

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tbh I though Moscow would have been one hour ahead

foggy shard
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we got strange things going on with our time zone

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i don't really care about it 😃

small fern
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heh

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yeah, jam on

foggy shard
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i hope that people around me tell me about whats going on(as short as possible) so i not going to be complete weirdo

sharp berry
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What do you mean¿

foggy shard
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I live in imaginary world

sharp berry
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Do you also own a boat where you need to sing the Imaginary song on to travel between the real world and the Imaginary world?

foggy shard
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Lol

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no it's more like i want to use UTC time instead of local time

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like who need local time it's confusing

tepid axle
foggy shard
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abut judging wooden benches?

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10/10 will sit again

tepid axle
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score settled 😛

foggy shard
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that actually could work with procedural generation
proc generated settles to score

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then you can look at list of benches that you scored before

tepid axle
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let me guess you can also have a benchmark XD

foggy shard
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also you can be scared of anything but settle so if you sit on a normal bench you die

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or fight with this bench

foggy shard
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there should be "strangest game" award category

ashen meadow
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owninator already has that category wrapped up

sharp berry
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I love it that there are multiple catagories this time

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I hope the normal Jams will get different categories too 😛

tepid axle
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they need to give out a polished turd to who ever makes the worst possible entry

ashen meadow
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finally a category i could compete for

foggy shard
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that meats requirements*

small fern
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This is why people having polished templates have advantage over users who do things from scratch 😄

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believe or not, I've done UI's for living too

tepid axle
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this is why you should be making a game not pissing about with UIs 😛

small fern
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some streamer complained on my previous game jam that I'm so noob I should learn how to use UMG 😄

tepid axle
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screw streamers man, did they compete?

small fern
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he totally missed the fact that I actually used UMG on both starting and ending screen

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I dunno

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but I guess I did good

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as he didn't even realize there was UMG

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😄

tepid axle
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its easy to be a critic, its difficult to be a good critic

small fern
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subtle things and small polish usually go unnoticed

tepid axle
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some voice over of someone playing my game doesnt compell me at all

small fern
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I still do that small detailing

tepid axle
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you dont have to finish the game by the end of Jam, you got plenty of time after to polish... if you come up with something decent

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the keyword there being if

small fern
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yeah, well, I just usually leave the polish at the end

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trying to build the framework first this time

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plus I need it for other reasons too

tepid axle
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lol a framework, well build one for me while youre at it

small fern
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if I just work on game, I tend to try and stuff more and more content on it

tepid axle
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I'll be over here making games 😛

small fern
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and then I'm screwed in the end when trying to put it together

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yeah

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this is why game jam templates should be allowed

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would save easily one day on polished template

tepid axle
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what if I told you Im making all my assets, starting from blank this Jam? would that change your mind?

small fern
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how others do things will not change how I do my own thing, so answer would be no

tepid axle
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a framework is a great piece of help from an engineering standpoint and can even be awesome from a design perspective but its not going to help you design cool games 😛

small fern
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but..

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I am an engineer :p

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anyway, better get back at this now

tepid axle
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still has a cunning plan

velvet echo
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you need a bigger photo so i can steal your ideas

glass fossil
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pretty sure you wouldn't be increasing your odds by doing the same idea as someone else 😛

velvet echo
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probably wouldn't drop them either