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minor remnant
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but you seem to be this server's "that guy"

serene nymph
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then f--- off?

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maybe it's a paradox?

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non-stop responses

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bye

minor remnant
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:)

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amazing

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he seems to be a stunning example of the Dunning-Kruger effect

mossy nexus
minor remnant
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lmao i love that image

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i'll take it

granite plover
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Dont bully frend

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Oop

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I guess my specs aren't enough

fluid bloom
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The Mist (movie) sure was bleak

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just saw it the first time ever ๐Ÿค”

fathom wadi
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kind of ruins itself by the ending though. Not really a watch it twice movie.

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that was a short story iirc

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I thought The Lawnmower Man was quite funny. Same with The Mangler.

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the movie of The Mangler was really well done

carmine frigate
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the ending of the mist the movie was great

broken sigil
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damn man, you should find some self-care time if possible
@minor remnant
Yeah, really should

minor remnant
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best of luck man ๐Ÿ‘

fathom wadi
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we all should. I've usually got a handle on my manic depression, and lockdown started ok as I plowed through 3 months of solid worthwhile work. But something snapped at some point. Now I'm like a yoyo, can't think straight, forget what has just been said to me and sometimes I type words I never even meant to, in replacement of others.
I know everyone is suffering and I have a family to support me, so knowing there are people out there in the same situation who have nobody to help them really makes me wonder what the long term effects on people who don't get COVID will be. Some seem to flourish but others are degrading moment by moment.

fathom wadi
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I love that movie. I saw it right as I got into heavy metal and rock, so the soundtrack was played hundreds of times. I can pretty much sing the entire album

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aye

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Bon Scott doing Ride On has to be one of my funeral tunes.

shut bloom
fresh heath
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RIAAssholes strike again

zinc matrix
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ayo is it normal for my model to distort while posing it? i put a decimate modifier on it to reduce vertices so that may have been the reason

light spruce
fresh heath
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Pres. Trump is fighting for YOU! Here are some of his priorities for a 2nd term:

*Establish Permanent Manned Presence on The Moon
*Send the 1st Manned Mission to Mars
*Build Worldโ€™s Greatest Infrastructure System
*Establish National High-Speed Wireless Internet Network

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light spruce
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I really dig that riff. That film is also ridiculous too.

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Yeah, it's almost like he's a person capable of having fun

fresh heath
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Unreal has something called NUTActor

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What an intriguing name

light spruce
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I do love this quote from Schwarzenegger because it's a good setup for the value of perseverance and kinda not giving a fuck. "It was very difficult for me in the beginning - I was told by agents and casting people that my body was 'too weird', that I had a funny accent, and that my name was too long. You name it, and they told me I had to change it. Basically, everywhere I turned, I was told that I had no chance."

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Easy.

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You just need to generate enough mass to cause time dilation due to gravity

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Simple. I should have said simple. It's simple not easy.

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I need to get back to doing some resistance training and put some muscle mass back on

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later on, brotherman

fresh heath
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Unreal's subtractive brushes are so nice

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It's much faster to subtract the corridors I want out of a big additive brush than to make a separate brush for every wall, floor and ceiling

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Like I used to do in Hammer

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Hammer has the carve tool, and it mostly doesn't work the way you need it to

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A careless carve can easily break your map

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I hope UE5 won't get rid of BSP geometry brushes

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I don't think there is a better tool for quick blockouts

rich quiver
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BSP is from UE2 it will never be remove from the Unreal ecosystem

fresh heath
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Isn't it from UE1?

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I mean, BSP was used for level geometry in games since at least Doom

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It would make sense for UE1 to use it

rich quiver
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since UnrealEd

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even older version of ue1

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since the 1996 version of unreal

cursive crypt
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@zinc matrix "sleep faster" is rarely used around, but I have a person who do use it frequently :) It is basically a wish that you have a good, meaningful rest and still have the time to do what you want to do.

marsh garden
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U guys know that moment

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You think of a really good game

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And then it's already been made

cursive crypt
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Definitely not ๐Ÿ˜„

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There are good games tho, which are very close.

turbid willow
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And then it's already been made
@marsh garden theres always something you can improve upon

fathom wadi
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@marsh garden True story. I missed two dream projects along my journey. One being Necromunda, which I wanted to make 10 years ago with UE3, and the other is basically what Ghosts of Tsushima turned out to be (albeit mine was a different story).

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@fresh heath funny you should say that about subtractive BSP. I originally moved to Unreal Engine because I was sick of HoM effects from micro-gaps in the BSP. When I first used additive, my whole level design workflow for blocking out sped up and became virtually error free. So it's a trade-off really.

carmine frigate
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those new ryzens sure look nice ๐Ÿ˜›

north torrent
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I'm going to get a 5950x if I can find one.

carmine frigate
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well if i happen to find one ill have 1 too ๐Ÿ™‚

north torrent
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Gonna get a new President and a new processor in the same week.

carmine frigate
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i doubt they just spawn on the ground tho

north torrent
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11/11 is the big sale day in China, but I am not sure they will have the new Ryzens by then.

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Might take a while till they get stock in China.

carmine frigate
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too bad consoles have a zen2

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that 19% ipc would have been nice there

north torrent
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I don't have money for consoles.

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I'm just gonna be a poor man stuck with his 5950x and an RTX 3090...

foggy path
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Coulda bought a 3080 and a console!

north torrent
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That wouldn't mean I have money for a console.

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That would leave me more money in my business account but I would be just as poor in my personal account.

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And be short 10gb of VRAM...

foggy path
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What kind of ridiculously complex scenes are you rendering

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lol

north torrent
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I'll make it as complex as I need to in order to use all that VRAM.

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Gotta make games that fit the technology, not buy technology that fits the game I'm making.

median wraith
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make a usable buttons system is harder than expected tbh

north torrent
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Need more VRAM.

mossy nexus
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Download some VRAM

foggy path
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640kb should be enough for anyone

ancient ingot
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O/

fresh heath
cursive crypt
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So... rice or rice noodles to cook ๐Ÿค”

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No way, lol

cursive crypt
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Done. Asian style rice meal. Bon apeti ๐Ÿš ๐Ÿด

fathom wadi
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This is the kind of stupidity that keeps Apple in the position to abuse developers and send children into cobalt mines in Nigeria.

north torrent
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False equivalency is a cancer.

Apple and Sony are treated differently because they are not equal. These companies do very different things and have very different relationships with developers and have totally different reputations.

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You can hate a company or sue a company without having to hate or sue every company.

fathom wadi
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Apple is only the sum of the people who make the decisions currently. All it takes is someone to change that status quo and it's a new company essentially. Same with the rest. The question is, do we force them to change or wait for them to change?

north torrent
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I once had someone tell me that I can't be mad about authoritarianism in the United States because I am not mad about authoritarianism in China.

But that is exactly how the world works, I can be mad about one and not the others. The countries are not the same. I have every right to choose my battles.

fathom wadi
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its still a hypocrisy in quantitative terms but everyone has the right to their opinions.

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If the world was only one way, it would be because of some authoritarian approach. So diversity is king

north torrent
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So is it hierocracy that I will let a puppy bite my hand but I won't let a tiger bit my hand?

fathom wadi
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heh

north torrent
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Things aren't equal.

fathom wadi
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some things aren't meant to be equal, but human rights are.

fresh heath
north torrent
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I don't have to get mad about someone taking $1 out of my pocket to have the right to be mad about someone taking $1,000 our of my pocket. I can choose what level of something I want to tolerate without being a hypocrite.

fathom wadi
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you can make up analogies like a true disinfo agent. Have you ever thought about working for the Russian government? ๐Ÿ˜„

north torrent
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My students try to pull that BS on me, "But he got away with doing blah blah blah".

And I say, "I don't care what he did and what I said to him, I told you to stop and if you don't stop I am going to take away your playground time."

fathom wadi
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that would have been a blessing to me. I was bullied every time we have a break.

north torrent
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When I see kids fighting they all get in trouble. I don't care who started it or "but I was just defending myself". I am not sorting out their BS, I'm not a detective. You hit people you get to go sit in your desk and read the rest of play time.

fathom wadi
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that's how you help break the spirit and disenfranchise a child. It's the wrong approach if you ask me. Being on the end of that kind of treatment only causes resentment to the authorities who neglect to protect you.

north torrent
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It stops all fighting.

fathom wadi
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no it stops the inconvenience of you dealing with it

north torrent
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It is a school, if they get mad about having to read a book that is their problem and not mine.

fathom wadi
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wow you're a shit teacher

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I take that back actually. I don't really know

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I just don't agree with how you do it

north torrent
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Books and schools go together. That's how school works.

fathom wadi
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my apologies

foggy path
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It sorta depends tbh

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If you throw a punch you deserve to think about it

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But if it's punishments for everyone because someone's getting bullied just because you can't be arsed to figure it out... wrong vocation :P

north torrent
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There is no room to risk letting someone get away with bullying because they can tell a good lie. You fight you are going to sit down and read.

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90% of the time the kid who got hit was somewhere he shouldn't be doing something he shouldn't have been doing to someone.

fathom wadi
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I remember being beaten up by one of my bullies. We were dealt with in the same manner. Both of us in detention after school for a week. So for the next week, I had to walk home with my bully, who would blame me for us being there, then constantly threaten me about what was going to happen. I lived in terror.

foggy path
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Yeah if it's something like that and the teachers can't be arsed to deal

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Get a job teaching adults or something instead

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:P

north torrent
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Nobody gets beat up in my class because I have zero tolerance. You hit someone it is dealt with and I don't listen to excuses.

ancient hornet
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Sony sure takes 30% too, but Sony must invest a lot of money at every generation to make sure their new console gets a good enough market share to make it even worth making a game for them

north torrent
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There is no being beaten up by bullies, you are not going to get more than one punch before it is dealt with.

I can't read the future, so the first punch is not always something I can stop.

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Sony is a totally different thing than Steam which is a totally different thing than Apple which is a totally different thing than Pizza Hut.

fathom wadi
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One of the worst things about my experience is that I haven't been bullied by anyone I haven't stood up to since I was 17 years old. I'm 44 now and have had night terrors and severe sweating through the night ever since. I was told "fight back" but they would beat me down (1 vs a group of 5+). I was told to stay out of their way, but how do you do that when they goto the same school? One time my bully beat me up and was expelled. I took several more beatings for getting him expelled by hitting his fist with my face. This is why I have a zero tolerance on bullying.

foggy path
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It's so weird how US schools are so violent, and I guess it's kinda like that here too now

fathom wadi
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this was UK

foggy path
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When I was in school yeah people got bullied but I never heard of anyone having been physically beaten up

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yeah I mean I guess UK, US, etc.

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there's stories about it happening here too now from time to time in the news

north torrent
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I just stop all of it. Nobody gets beat up, there is a 0% chance of a student getting beat up by 5 kids. Never going to happen, impossible at this particular school.

foggy path
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not sure where it comes from

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Yeah you think they won't beat the kid up after school if they wanted to tho :P

north torrent
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The kids are picked up by their parents with multiple teachers watching.

foggy path
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ah

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I cycled to school in fucking -20 C temps lol

north torrent
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There is no point after school the kids can get beat up unless the parents take them home and they go out of their home and go meet the kids after school in a totally unrelated meetup.

fathom wadi
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I cant even spend a full night in bed with my wife because I soak the sheets in sweat. And I ain't soft. This hardened me up to the point I didn't care if I lived or died. In fact, I preferred death. Tried a couple of times. It's something we should have a more appropriate response to than just dump the victim in with the bully as they get punished the same.

north torrent
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We have zero students that walk to our school.

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I was in a meeting yesterday and looking out the window because meeting are boring. Some kid on the football field threw a punch and it wasn't 2 seconds before the teacher on duty was there.

You can't always stop the first punch, but there is never anything beyond that.

cursive crypt
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Darn, some big bro policy you have there. Back then at my school, fights were kinda occasional.

north torrent
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It is just a teacher standing on the playground as the students play... that isn't very odd...

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Most of the time he/she will just watch and maybe throw the ball back to the kids if someone kicks it off the field.

cursive crypt
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Yeah, teacher on sight reduced. In fact, postponed the event.

north torrent
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We don't leave small children around to cause trouble after school. When school is over your parents or the bus take you straight home.

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We also don't let them walk or ride bikes because they will literally get run over by a car.

cursive crypt
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Seems very "established" process. Back then, and at a bit in the countryside, was normal to have some older bullies. You either eat the fist or drop your money, lol. Then depending on the target war starts, like there were cases several people gather and go to revenge.

foggy path
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I guess it depends on age but I cycled to school from like 8 or 9 pretty sure, though I imagine we have way less traffic and better bike paths lol

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not sure how it goes these days with kids over here, I'd imagine it's still like that

north torrent
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It isn't a matter of age here but a matter of the road design. It would be very dangerous even for adults.

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There is no sidewalk and the street is very busy at the time school gets out.

cursive crypt
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I have a friend who told me they played football on the boulevard back then when he was a kid, lol

north torrent
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Maybe when the construction is done it will be different, but right now the road is a mess.

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But here at this school 90% of the time when someone gets hit it is because he walked across the room to the desk of the hitter, messed with something on his desk or called him a name, and then he gets hit. Then he comes to the teacher and wines that he got hit.

fresh heath
plucky pagoda
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Me and my 16yr are thinking of playing GTFO later. Haven't played it yet but I guess it's setup for like 4 players if anyone's interested in joining up and is also not a total asshat.

cursive crypt
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gtfo? get da fuq out?

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... ah, it is a name of a game, lol

plucky pagoda
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yeah, I guess it's balanced for 4 players and requires a lot of player interaction

cursive crypt
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hehe, enjoy, sounds kinda fun

cunning orbit
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Would you guys release a game on PC if it basically required a controller? My prototype require two joysticks, doesn't work with m&k at all

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Seems like it would be asking for complaints I guess

cursive crypt
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A bit niche, but if you want to. If joystick only, you may port later for consoles?

cunning orbit
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Yeah I might go that route if mobile people like it. ๐Ÿ˜

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I'm probably thinking too far ahead anyway. Best to just make the stupid mobile game and finish a project for once. I'm supposed to be keeping it simple this time lol

cursive crypt
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Well, at least check your market share, though if you care only to release it - its fine too.

fathom wadi
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@cunning orbit You can release whatever you like. Someone will always complain. I worked on a VR game where people complained you couldn't use kb/m with. Like wtf?
What I would consider is giving them the option anyway. Also consider accessibility options so people can play with ANY controller.

cursive crypt
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I had one hole of 20+ years not using any controller. Felt weird, 1st time, lol.

cunning orbit
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@fathom wadi makes sense!

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@cursive crypt I had that experience when I got an Xbox recently and it is indeed weird. I look like a 6 year old trying to play an FPS with a controller lmao

fathom wadi
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@zinc matrix volumetrics. Usually used for clouds and fog. Can also be affected by vortex fields I believe

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Im sure there was a content example for this

fathom wadi
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I'm still waiting for OpenMeshEffect to get some love so we can use modifiers from Blender and Houdini natively instead. It kind of annoys me that you hear very little about attempts to do this. Non-destructive mesh editing between apps and parity should be a priority for any company that is serious about getting the most usage out of their product.

fluid bloom
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oh my

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Thunderbirds the movie on tv

fathom wadi
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screw that. UFC254 main event about to start ๐Ÿ˜„

lucid walrus
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ugh... 4.26 breaks some things I use ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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reported it and fingers crossed the functionality will be restored

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(they fixed one of my two reported issues at least, so there's a sliver of hope)

rare sparrow
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At least 4.26 fixed SSR without TAA YEP

fresh heath
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This channel is really interesting, especially if you are making an FPS

light spruce
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I just wish their TAA wasn't so awful

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I still don't understand why they never incorporated SMAA

rare sparrow
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You mean you don't like coating your eyes in vaseline just to remove jaggies?

median wraith
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Ue4 AA is based on SMAA

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From the Zaragoza and Crytek docs

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But is custom

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There was a pure sources from an external company anyway

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Anyway AA isn't needed at all on newer resolutions and cost more

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So the fact is the TAA works for big resolutions

rare sparrow
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I don't know that much about this stuff, but I do wish unreal had more options for AA. It's either, no AA, better than nothing FXAA, or vaseline coated TAA. TAA can take great screenshots, but depending on your project the artifacting is just too much.

median wraith
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TAA is the layer you had before the new AI systems cover the image edges now, so now all is fake

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:p

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As result looks decent xd

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Or pretty bad compared to forward Shading old systems

fresh heath
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It looks horrible on Twitch and YouTube for one

broken sigil
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also why does everyone hate motion blur?
In case you are playing something competitively you want the image to be as crisp as possible at all times, it's the first thing I turn off in games

north torrent
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Ryzen 5950x

fathom wadi
elfin kernel
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BP is JIT right?

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that would mean it's possible to decompile it from a packaged game

dense atlas
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doubt it if you use encrypted pak, if it's a concern just nativise it

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you wouldn't decompile it anyway, you'd try and load the uasset and look at it, wouldn't you? Due to dependancies I imagine that'd also be a bit fiddly

turbid willow
bleak rain
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Anyone knows about unreal engine game dev bootcamps?

broken sigil
median wraith
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So you did x3 of the second one

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And you get a 20% more points lmao

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No idea what game is that but stop playing ๐Ÿ˜‚

light spruce
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never stop stopping

median wraith
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Lets go with serious topics
Shouldn't the GetAllSocketNames() function should be named GetAllSocketsName(); because there is an array of sockets with 1 name each, rather than sockets with names ?

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๐Ÿค–

foggy path
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lol

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If we say the "name of a socket" is a "socket name"

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thus, "all socket names"

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it makes sense, and is less painful to write than GetAllSocketsNames alex

fresh heath
fathom wadi
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Good. They are funding Facebook ๐Ÿ˜„

median wraith
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What about dev kits?

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And seriouslywhy are doing such crap

fathom wadi
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because if they can get away with it, they will create a closed environment like Apple. And they have seen how powerful such a relationship between hardware can be. Especially with stupid people willing to pay over the top for "limited supplies" and such. I think there is going to be a point we have to take a stand and force this legally.

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Same with Apple using child labour

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and Google.

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And Microsoft. And Dell

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Conflict resources are the new blood diamonds.

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Holy moly. Did you know a PPE mask is a luxury?

soft night
fresh heath
fringe sundial
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their issue was trying to clone unreal/unity

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if you make an engine specifically for a game, its not nearly as bad

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specially because thats what all AAAs do

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ubisoft has one custom engine per game, basically

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they share some core tools and libraries beetween projects, but every game has its own engine

cursive crypt
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lmao, that dude is on fire - he attached the youtube-dl to the dmca repo itself

zinc matrix
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how do i actually use blueprints on my own? im so over just copying tutorials without actually understanding anything, i just wanna be able to do something without tutorials babying me

broken sigil
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instead of just copying you should take time to understand what the thing you just copied does

fathom wadi
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@zinc matrix I feel you on that. I have spent so much time with old or bad tutorials teaching bad methods that I kind of stopped unless it's official documentation or from peers who I respect. If I can give you any advice I would say use the Unreal Academy whenever you can.

cursive crypt
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Yeah, and think twice or you gonna do what I have to do now - redo 1h of work ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

zinc matrix
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thanks y'all

fresh heath
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@zinc matrix With blueprints you need to remember that you are writing a computer program, even if it's in a visual form, so all of the fundamental programming knowledge applies

zinc matrix
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aight, i don't really know anything about non visual scripting

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so

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oh well, i think i'll just follow the unreal academy

fathom wadi
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there are very few basics to learn with programming, as a whole, which extend to most other languages. Variables, loops and conditionals, functions, pointers, references and OOP. If you get them, you can pretty much transfer all your knowledge between languages. I've learned 10 different languages in my time.

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all that goes out of the window with ASM and Haskell though ๐Ÿ˜„

foggy path
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Yeah big picture stuff like that is similar in most langs

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even in Haskell, even though Haskell is a mindfuck otherwise

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:D

fresh heath
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Haskell is closer to pure math than the usual von Neumann machine programming

zinc matrix
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i think other than blueprints i got most things figured out in gamedev

broken sigil
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Once you learn C++ or C you can pretty much learn any other language within a few days, every other seems like joke compared to C (complexity wise)

zinc matrix
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i know i will eventually need to do some non visual cpp for optimization and stuff tho

solid aurora
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Haskell is functional

fathom wadi
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I find C as easy as C++ with one easy trick. Ctrl-C, then Ctrl-V ๐Ÿ˜„

solid aurora
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which actually lends it self far better for multithreaded software

fresh heath
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Yeah, less mutability

fathom wadi
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yeah I'd like to learn it but my brain is borked

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I think I need a vacation

solid aurora
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OOP in current twisted form

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is nightmare

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original concept of OOP

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was actually way closer to Actor Model

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communicate only trough async messages

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with isolated state

fresh heath
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Like Erlang?

solid aurora
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close

foggy path
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part of the problem with haskell is that so much of the material for learning it is just.. completely weird

fathom wadi
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I like the way Unreal deals with OOP principles by saying "You can do it anyway you like but if you don't do it like we do, you're on your own" ๐Ÿ˜„

solid aurora
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but more like SmallTalk

foggy path
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like the whole monad thing... it's just an interface basically, but good fucking luck finding a tutorial about monads that says it's an interface

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:D

fresh heath
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Smalltalk didn't do much to isolate state iirc

solid aurora
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i know

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but frankly neither really any other OOP languague :

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but similiar in concept still

foggy path
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as someone who's done programming for like 20 years, Elixir and Haskell are the two langs which are kinda interesting just as languages :P

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Elixir might be the more approachable one out of the two

cursive crypt
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Haskell is nice.

fathom wadi
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I still enjoy actionscript 3.0. There. I said it.

fresh heath
mossy nexus
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Coronavirus walks into a bar and orders a beer...

Barman says, sorry we don't serve Corona here...

tulip orbit
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MOA.d walks into a bar...
...ha ha.

oblique sandal
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Anyone with bluetooth headphones know how to fix audio delay? I've got a solid 3 second delay on these new headphones I got. I'm on windows 10 with stable internet

ancient hornet
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did you try rebooting? ๐Ÿ˜›

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I've had delay very occasionally on bluetooth audio stuff and I felt like it was a bad "calibration" between the two endpoints

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that was solved by a power cycling to redo the link

fathom wadi
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A muslim, a jew and a catholic are sat having a soft drink in a bar.
What a lovely example of a multicultural society.
#PoliticallyCorrectJokes

fresh heath
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Don't fingernails keep growing on corpses for a while?

fathom wadi
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no they just keep the coffin lid shut

median wraith
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Oh money does it, and is awesome

fathom wadi
median wraith
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gamemodes you cannot play outside of playstation until 1 year later

fathom wadi
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just realised that guys twitter handle is Foone. Mine is f00n. Perhaps we are related.

fresh heath
fathom wadi
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Im just reading that now. Awaiting the fortnite trolls and anti-epic crew.

fathom wadi
turbid willow
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A muslim, a jew and a catholic are sat having a soft drink in a bar.
What a lovely example of a multicultural society.
#PoliticallyCorrectJokes
@fathom wadi lmaoooo good one

cursive crypt
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It is 2020 and that MS Notepad still does not have dark mode, the ignorance

light spruce
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it took them this long to handle unix line endings properly

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bigger issue is why anyone would use notepad in the face of far better alternatives.

cursive crypt
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Fair issue. I use it because it is a lightweight and already integrated, my Vim is built toward a bit more heavier ops.

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In fact, if I was not so lazy I could reconfigure it on runtime to run in light mode ๐Ÿค”

light spruce
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I use vscode for everything on my windows user. Still use notepad++ if I need to edit something with my root account. vim is for linux.

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vim-tiny can eat a box of butts and I wish people would stop shipping it

cursive crypt
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Ah... what was that even? I use Vim everywhere, its config is synced across my win workstation and linux laptop.

light spruce
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it's some lighter weight bullshit that has its own config file... so you'll put whatever inevitable fixes you have to have in your vim config stuff.. and then it won't work because.. oh.. it's vim-tiny

cursive crypt
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eww ๐Ÿ˜„

light spruce
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And the dipshits that did the distro that runs on my chromebook made it a dependency, so I can't even throw it in the trash

cursive crypt
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Yeah, regretfully some distros just have this big fat package which you can't decompose as it is usually full of useless stuff.

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I'm not versatile in package management, but there might be ways ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ Still, annoyance.

light spruce
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I don't care enough to run straight debian on it and have to bring in some of the specific chromebook tweaks

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I only ever run like four things on it. Browser, media player, text editor, and a terminal.

cursive crypt
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It is an entertainment device?

light spruce
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I wouldn't say entertainment device really. It's the random bullshit machine. Get upset at r/politics before I get out of bed. Drag it into the living room when I want to play Bloodborne and need to look up tomb codes. The thing I use when I need to wipe drives

light spruce
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turns out that designing a tiny house inside a rectangle is hard

north torrent
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I decided on my new motherboard.

light spruce
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okay

median wraith
light spruce
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The struggle to avoid people posting things from Twitter is real

median wraith
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oh excuse me, my lord

light spruce
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You're goddamned right. Now have a whiskey and punch a nun.

median wraith
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@north torrent oh god, never seen such big input area in a mother board

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its like a brick of input ports

north torrent
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Input is life.

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That's kind of standard for 2020.

foggy path
#

that kind of a "shield" around the ports seems to be some kind of new fad

light spruce
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Actually, I would say that isn't enough ports

foggy path
#

yeah that's definitely not enough ports

light spruce
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Because there are three video ports that are worthless

foggy path
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there's like what 2 and a half USB ports

median wraith
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yeah tbh seems half of the ones I got lol

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but is a whole brick

light spruce
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Unless you have an APU, they don't actually do anything

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My old one is 6 USB3, 2 USB3.2

cursive crypt
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I have 11 usb ports on my mb, and dont use 3 of them ๐Ÿค”

light spruce
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no USB C.. but. my phone is the only thing I have that uses.. nope, my keyboard does too

north torrent
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I only need 4.

light spruce
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I have a couple of things plugged into an old USB2 hub

foggy path
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I think I use like 9 or 10, this is all I got including front panel connectors :P

light spruce
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only my tablet and mouse actually do anything plugged into it. Have a charging cable for a stylus.. and a micro USB cable that I have no idea what was plugged into at some point

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yeah, I have another 2 panel USB 3 panel connectors as well

foggy path
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My Rift is eating like three

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or maybe four

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the headset itself and three cameras

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I have a few things I don't need to have plugged in at the same time though

light spruce
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keyboard, mouse, spacemouse, tablet, xbox controller, mic

foggy path
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mouse, keyboard, USB DAC, USB mixer, webcam, three oculus cameras, wheel, pedals, wireless keyboard receiver... actually that's more than ten...

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oh and that doesn't include the oculus head unit...

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:P

light spruce
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And I know I keep a cable hooked up for my phone for firmware flashing

foggy path
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have you ever used hardware flashing devices for phones

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I was subcontracting at Nokia for a while a few years back, got to play with neat toys like that

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:D

light spruce
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Negative. Just ADB with TWRP

foggy path
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tbh they probably functioned much in the same way :P

light spruce
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I need to get around to checking up on custom rom status

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Since the version I have likes to lock up and shit itself every 6 - 10 days

foggy path
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that's why I don't bother with modding phones these days lol

light spruce
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Though, to be fair, if I actually wrote out the entirety of my "to-do" list, I wouldn't need to kill myself

foggy path
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I just want it to work and not run out of battery immediately

light spruce
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Yeah.. I don't even remember what tossed me back down that road at this point aside from security updates

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I still use an old phone because I don't use a phone often enough to have real use for newer phones.

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And, while it's less important now that going anywhere ever is basically not a thing, I'd still rather light myself on fire than have to use bluetooth headphones

foggy path
#

heh

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old phones would be adequate but they have a tendency of failing, be it because of batteries, or because updated apps somehow work slower and slower

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my old iPhone 4 was perfectly adequate for my usage back in the day, but it got to the point that launching the spotify app literally took 1-2 minutes because it loaded that slowly

light spruce
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I remember using Hangouts (when that was a thing) on an old phone... where you couldn't see anything at all after they updated it

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And I went looking for screenshots and found one of my phone setup images where I had messages from a ladyfriend from back in the day

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file under things I didn't need to be reminded of

analog bone
#

How much do you guys spend on marketing? Or do you only do free marketing?

light spruce
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I haven't released anything in a long time. There's.. probably a better channel to ask something like that in... and you should probably probably specify between a game and a marketplace item as well since people sorta do both of those things.

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just.. filter out the438 probablies in that sentence. My brain had a kernel panic and core was dumped

fresh heath
cursive crypt
#

Suddenly reminds me of one colleague. Like 80%+ close.

soft night
#

so news come from the lunar science

fathom wadi
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yeah they found astronaut piss

soft night
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they fount Unreal new water system on mars

zinc matrix
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THE UNREAL PARTICLE SYSTEM

fresh heath
#

Is that Jensen Huang's jacket?

median wraith
#

Is that watch dogs 2?

mossy nexus
#

Anyone get advice on a decent medium priced mechanical keyboard, this cheap one has started dying so looking to get a replacement

median wraith
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mmm

fresh heath
zinc matrix
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i've watched a couple courses on the ue website, i've learned a bit but what would y'all suggest to be a good tutorial series that would teach me a bit about blueprints, im still lost it can be on yt or the ue site or anywhere so long as it's free

zinc matrix
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i might go to sleep so @ me if you respond so i can see it tomorrow

north torrent
fresh heath
hasty cargo
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wtf they took down yt dl

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internet slowly becoming glorified cable tv

fathom wadi
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:/

hasty cargo
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perhaps the pheonix will rise again then

zinc matrix
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y'all know what the points do in learn.unreal? i got some after watching 2 courses

fathom wadi
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you can use them to buy street cred.

zinc matrix
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wow sick i can be a gangster now

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anyways, y'all think ue5 will have a different look to it?

broken sigil
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I doubt ue5 editor will look any different, it's most likely gonna be UE4 with better rendering

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at least that's what they showed so far

north torrent
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And cleaned up a bit.

north torrent
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I can't wait for the day when I can plug an Intel GPU into the same motherboard of an AMD CPU.

cursive crypt
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"cleaned up" - lmao, mao

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wrt to Microsoft resigning from RIAA 'coz youtube-dl, that's the delusional solution of idealism. Most likely the repo will be just hosted elsewhere and that all.

north torrent
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Is YouTube still a thing in 2020?

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I would have thought people would be over that by now.

cursive crypt
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Good question! Apparently not. There are people working only that. And there are people watching them. If it not YT it will be something else anyway.

north torrent
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That's the cycle. New thing comes along and people use said thing. The thing then becomes bigger and bigger until it is too big and greedy. Then something new and fresh comes along and replaces the old relic.

cursive crypt
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I had one young colleague, he would watch, listen in fact, yt while coding. He thought he might grasp few % of information while working anyway.

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My theory was that cache is shared, hence limited space to remember stuff.

north torrent
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Now that YouTube is to the point where there are 2 ads at the start of a video, an advertisement inside the content itself, and then multiple advertisements throughout the video, it is only a matter of time until a newer platform comes along.

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Multitasking is just doing more than one thing poorly.

cursive crypt
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I'm sorry, but seems true. The few times I ran yt on my mobile (no adblocker) I decided not to due to the ads.

broken sigil
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I usually have some podcast in the background on YT while working (misfits LOL)

cursive crypt
#

Oh, found another one of the same sect.

north torrent
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I just download the songs from YouTube or Soundcloud instead on letting YouTube auto play anymore. If I just let YouTube auto play I would get very little music in comparison to my time listening to ads.

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And the time spend having to look away from my work to skip ads is not worth it for me.

cursive crypt
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Yeah, that better idea.

north torrent
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Though working in silence is generally nice.

zinc matrix
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Hello guys, welcome back to my channel. Welcome in the fourth episode of the tutorial series- How to make a HUD for a game. In today's video you will see how to set a name of player before you start the game.. The way you can support me is join our community with SUBSCRIBE button and follow me on social pages. Thank you for your attention!
Link to the video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWJDzrVwChM&t=1s

Welcome in the fourth video of the series "How to make a HUD for a game". In this series you will see how to set a name of player before you start the game. The way you can support me is to join the community with SUBSCRIBE button and follow me in the social medias. Thank you ...

โ–ถ Play video
broken sigil
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Oh, found another one of the same sect.
@cursive crypt

cursive crypt
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Hmm... wonder whether the lounge is the best place for tutz, maybe #work-in-progress , mods can say.

bronze axle
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It's self promotion, so it should go in #released.

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@zinc matrix Please keep self promotion posts in #released.

zinc matrix
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a okay, I didn't know, they told me here, thank you @bronze axle

bronze axle
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Who told you?

north torrent
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Hmmm... I wonder if PCIE 4.0 nvme ssds are worth the upgrade...

unborn lotus
#

Maybe for really large files and workloads?

north torrent
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I just like having the best stuff for my work computer.

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Get more done.

cursive crypt
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I have the same fetish.

mossy nexus
#

And those speeds will drop as the drive fills up.

north torrent
#

I almost forgot I was paying a monthly subscription to Substance Designer.

cursive crypt
#

You are paying to Adobe Substance suite.

fresh heath
#

I'm still using Substance Painter 2 and Designer 5 I bought in Steam years ago

north torrent
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I just got the perpetual license upgrade that finally ends on November 1st.

They stopper selling perpetual licenses on November 1st last year, but people who were on the subscription plan with he option to upgrade to perpetual at the end got to complete their 12 months and get the perpetual.

I would have just got perpetual last year, but doing it this way I got almost 400 Substance Store dollar things to buy Substances.

north torrent
zinc matrix
#

good morning. if one wears contact lenses daily, this creates micro-abrasions in cornea, parasites' can go into the cornea, so it wouldn't matter whether you shower with/without lenses, right? they say not to wear lenses when swimming or showering. this makes no sense. ist not like parasits and ba

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@north torrent is that the lil cute 3100? it's special made for MCRTX

north torrent
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RTX 3060 concept which hasn't been announced yet.

zinc matrix
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@north torrent no concept. its 3100 for minecraft rtx. stable 60fps

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@zinc matrix wait. can i as a admin change the name of an mp player? ๐Ÿ˜„

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i can troll others

north torrent
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Is Minecraft even real?

zinc matrix
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@zinc matrix wait. can i as a admin change the name of an mp player? ๐Ÿ˜„
@zinc matrix sorry what?

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as an admin i ccould change name of players right?

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and troll em

north torrent
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Not if you want to stay admin of anything other than an empty server.

zinc matrix
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as an admin i ccould change name of players right?
@zinc matrix what are yu talking about?

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XD

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@north torrent should i apply quixel textures in ue4 or in blender?

north torrent
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Both.

zinc matrix
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why both

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@north torrent cat im talking to you

north torrent
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If you are going to be using a model then you should apply the textures to it.

zinc matrix
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but why in blender @north torrent

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SIR SIR

north torrent
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If you are going to use an object in a Blender scene you want it to have a texture.

zinc matrix
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no. its going to ue4 @north torrent sir sir

north torrent
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Then why is it in Blender?

zinc matrix
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its getting made inblender

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;D

north torrent
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Then apply the textures in Blender...

Otherwise you are just flying blind and don't know if you have done it right...

zinc matrix
#

thats why there are checker textures?

north torrent
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But you could just as quickly apply the texture as applying a checker...

zinc matrix
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a checker is much faster than albiedo, normal, roughness etc

north torrent
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If you are already stuck on your own answer, why did you bother to ask?

zinc matrix
#

did you really assume my stuck-position?

north torrent
#

Yes.

zinc matrix
#

and my gender?!

north torrent
#

Yes.

zinc matrix
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how rude ๐Ÿ’ข

north torrent
#

Yes.

zinc matrix
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XD

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im not stuck on my answer

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im happy for yours

north torrent
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You can 3d model however you want to. Doesn't bother anyone else one bit.

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But why ask questions if you don't want to listen?

zinc matrix
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am i now right or not with checker texture is easier and faster than applying all avail. textures in blender for one mesh

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why do you answer if you dont want to help me tho?

north torrent
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Faster is not better.

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The closer to your final product you can view your artwork the more informed you are on each artistic decision you make.

If you have textures apply them and see what they look like. That's how you can make the best assessment of your own work so far.

If you don't want to do that, then don't.

zinc matrix
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dont get it

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why its not enough to apply it in ue4

north torrent
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Well, if you were experienced enough to second guess my answer, you wouldn't need to be asking the question in the first place.

zinc matrix
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ye. im not. that why i dont get it

north torrent
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Take it or leave it, it is all up to you.

zinc matrix
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you didnt explain ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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cry

north torrent
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You are correct.

zinc matrix
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you just want me to believe you

north torrent
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You aren't my student. I don't have any financial obligation to make you understand.

zinc matrix
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then why even answering in first place

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if you are happy to make your ego happy by answering any non-helpful answer

north torrent
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I gave you a legitimate answer, but that doesn't mean I owe you an explanation as to why.

zinc matrix
#

it really looks like you wanna make your ego happier by just giving simple answer to strangers

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great job. don't need such peoplle

cursive crypt
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oh ๐Ÿฟ

zinc matrix
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im listening

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๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ as i said i dont ๐Ÿ˜„

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i know

soft night
#

Cyberpunk 2077 is christmas title

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comfirmed

zinc matrix
#

@ionic flame exploitation?

thin storm
#

CyberNukem: Forever

unborn lotus
#

yes but ghostrunner is out today

fresh heath
#

Daikatana 2077

median wraith
#

The most delayed game ever

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Award winner from 2010 to 2021

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The best part is the people that think this won't have crunch time to the employees lol

unborn lotus
#

best part is that I might get a 3080 for it after all

fresh heath
#

It's tough to be a PR person

median wraith
#

Are like the medics

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prescribe medicaments they don't know how are made, to people they don't know

fresh heath
solid aurora
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@unborn lotus you still trying ? ;p

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I'm going to be Radeon 6900

median wraith
#

That reminds me of the game in Steam that claim is more realist than the real war

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XD

ancient hornet
#

seems like marketing wrote that game description

unborn lotus
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@solid aurora haha yeah, last time I had driver issues with amd cards in 3d software. But il wait for reviewa, might as well switch camps

scarlet fjord
#

yo chat, how is it poppin

soft night
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I have being would i get what RTX 30-series card as rig now have GTX 770

median wraith
#

So is back to source after use ue

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then moved to UE4 in order to make the new sandbox, it seems like the overall engine don't meet the needs

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idk with the new physics system if it goes for better or what

marsh garden
#

Is that a penis in the background

mossy nexus
#

yarp

fresh heath
thin storm
#

"twelve years in the making" hmmmm

fresh heath
#

That's correct

tulip orbit
#

Is that a penis in the background
@marsh garden No, just residual image burned into your retinas

fresh heath
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G-String was being developed for 12 years

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I think it grew out of a Half-Life 2 mod or something

dense atlas
#

We'll have to see how this plays out with the supply shortages

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3080 be redundant before demand was satisfied ๐Ÿ˜„

#

tomorrow is RDNA day, we can finally get all the relevant details that have been carefully omitted

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I totally have to buy something, UE4 is dead, long live UE5

north torrent
#

If an RTX 3080ti isn't better than an RTX 3090, does it really matter?

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I don't think I would even consider an AMD gpu regardless of what they launch.

cursive crypt
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Rtx Mao ๐Ÿ˜„

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Somebody is eager

solid aurora
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@north torrent are you nvidia fanboy ?;p

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if the performance is similiar

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I buy AMD

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I'm sick of nvidia propertiary vendor lock in shit they are constantly pulling off

north torrent
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I just don't trust AMD gpus. Too many issues with drivers in the past.

They say they are theoretically as good as blah blah blah Nvidia card, but then in practice it never works out.

light spruce
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You say that as if nvidia doesn't push broken drivers all the time

solid aurora
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I'm going hit f5 to buy AMD

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I'm pretty sure it will out of stock just as fast : D

unborn lotus
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don't think so. retailers had like 5% of rtx cards orders delievered (like 20 cards)...it's not a demand issue

solid aurora
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and AMD have actually working linux drivers

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unlikle nvidia which again tries to push their shit around ;s

broken sigil
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AMD never had any GPU to compete with Nvidia's high end gpus
It's always just promises and it ends on that every time, so I'm fully expecting it to be another flop

solid aurora
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I'm not

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nvidia is in full panic mode

broken sigil
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time will tell

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And even to come close they need hardware raytracing and their version of DLSS as it's been proven this is where the future of graphics and performance is, otherwise it would need to perform at least the same (in rasterization) and be at least 35% cheaper compared to the Nvidia GPU's to even be worth looking at it's general direction

solid aurora
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the future of rendering

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are consoles

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which are AMD

broken sigil
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well sadly rendering tech has always been limited by consoles

solid aurora
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not any more

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consoles are roughly equvalned to 2080 super

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over time we will just get better solutions for rendering and better performance on PC

broken sigil
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not any more
consoles are roughly equvalned to 2080 super
Consoles are going to be stuck with that GPU until the new generation comes out while in the meantime new GPU's for PCs (3080 is already much faster than 2080) will be coming out and we are still gonna be held back by consoles, it's always has been like that and it will be

solid aurora
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you miss the point

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you will get better performance

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and better looking games still

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by using more optimized rendering, better suited to hardware

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this should actually directly translate to PC, since there is very little custom hardware in consoles

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consoles will 30fps raytraced games

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while PC will have 120 fps

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for example

broken sigil
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The point is consoles are gonna be stuck with the same hardware for the next like 7 years, the hardware changes drastically in that time span, software can do only as much as the hardware allows
Look how much faster raytracing has become between just 1 generation of GPUs
AI accelerated rendering seems to be the future so AMD needs to do something about it to be competitive

solid aurora
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well it's future because nvidia thinks that. They think that because they heavly invested into silicon on GPU which does nothing else

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what do you expect they will tell you ? (;

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Those cards were mainly designed for data center deep learning

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consumer parts use the same design, because it's cheaper than designing another GPU

broken sigil
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They don't have to tell me anything, 2X+ better performance with DLSS 2.0 and at the same time better image quality than native in most cases tells me everything

solid aurora
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tl;dr I don't know what is the future, I just don't think single company can define future, nor I want it

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it's not about deep learning

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just upscaling

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it'sa implementation detail

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AMD have hardware upscaling

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but exact implementation is left up for developers

broken sigil
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there hasn't been a single upscaling method that comes close to DLSS, that's the problem
AI (machine learning) is the future of pretty much everything so the same goes for computer graphics
The same thing was happening when 3d graphics first came around, people were denying that it would end up being the future and was marked as a marketing trick

north torrent
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If AMD can actually make something that performs I will be happy to buy it.

But I am not going to hold my breath after being disappointed generation after generation. They proved themselves with CPUs and that's a good thing, but I am still going to wait and see.

zinc matrix
#

games from EGS are not that good

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the free ones

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ive been getting all of them for few months and theyre mostly boring, today im uninstalling all the egs games i have

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rocket league wasnt bad tbh but its not a game for longer

unborn lotus
#

yeah, how dare they! ask for your money back too ๐Ÿ˜†

ancient hornet
#

I mean, sure there are a few weak games in the list but is that an issue really?

thin storm
#

I played enter the gungeon and hitman the most so far.

ancient hornet
#

they gave away Celeste!

sharp turtle
light spruce
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No. Just the box.

sharp turtle
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screw the ssd then, I'm installing the box

ancient hornet
#

let's make a deal, we buy that new SSD 50/50, I take the SSD and you take the box
win win

sharp turtle
#

sounds fair

light spruce
#

Speaking of drives, I get to find another drive to put in my raid array... hopefully before this one totally dies.

[  164.614766] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] tag#13 Sense Key : Medium Error [current]
[  164.614770] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] tag#13 Add. Sense: Unrecovered read error - auto reallocate failed
[  164.614775] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] tag#13 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 68 18 94 b8 00 00 58 00
median wraith
#

is just me or the last Windows update removed the apps icons

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now I get a generic icon on search

#

oh seems like is fixed on restart ๐Ÿค”

zinc matrix
#

no nut november soon y'all, imma participate lol

light spruce
#

On the one hand, I'm proud of you for knowing where the apostrophe goes in "y'all". On the other, I don't know why anyone would do that to themselves on purpose.

zinc matrix
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just cause i don't wanna do it no more

cursive crypt
#

nutember

light spruce
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to quote a former ladyfriend "sometimes, you have to empty your balls"

zinc matrix
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too much of anything is bad tho

cursive crypt
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I'm fine without the "too" part. Much money, much healthy, much happy.

foggy path
#

yal'l

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y'all're, y'all'll ?

formal thunder
#

hey guys
i dont ryl know where to ask this question

how do you gather some players to test your game?

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like you know
find ppl who might like the game?

quartz dust
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lol im open to test anything @formal thunder

zinc matrix
#

me lol

formal thunder
#

ow ok

#

but i mean like

light spruce
#

I see ya'll a lot

formal thunder
#

ppl who would like to play the game because it is this game

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not just like... "i play anything"

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how to find fans i would call it

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like future fans

light spruce
#

I was born in Texas but I stopped using that a very long time ago so it wasn't so readily apparent. And then it kinda just spread to more of the southern US

formal thunder
#

?

light spruce
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Well... here's the thing: if you make something that isn't terrible, it will always find some kind of fan base. As far as finding those specific people ahead of time.. who knows. Also, those aren't the only people you need to test things. You need people who will find shit that you couldn't imagine being broken... people who will do the weirdest shit because "I wonder if I can [variable]..."

formal thunder
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@light spruce the thing is taht i know that game looks ok and ppl will like it

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i jsut dont know where to search

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i dont want to jsut go blindly looking

light spruce
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Just to be further demoralizing, unless things have changed in the past several years, even some dedicated QA places wind up being kind of shit at writing up bug reports

zinc matrix
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post it on the unreal subreddit

formal thunder
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what i look for isnt testing as in finding bugs
i look for ppl who might like the game

zinc matrix
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make an itch io, instagram, twitter, facebook, reddit, with your gamedev name, and post regular updates about your game

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and engage with your community

light spruce
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A lot of my bug reports would probably be shit because I'm the kind of person that does a lot of ad-hoc stuff that finds really bizarre issues where I can't do a repro because I did 25 things that broke the universe.

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So... you're looking for someone that can tell you if it sucks or not then

zinc matrix
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oh yeah also maybe make a trailer before publishing your game and put it up on your youtube channel, your "gamedev" youtube channel so people see the video and like your game and give it a look

formal thunder
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@zinc matrix i dont think looking in gamedev places will be helpfull?

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i mean, a casual player or soemone who doesnt make games will propobly not be there

light spruce
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That probably sounded more shitty than straight-forward, so I apologize.

quartz dust
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lol

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well

zinc matrix
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idk maybe post it on r/indiegames

quartz dust
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whats the game abt

formal thunder
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np ... you kinda keep talking about bug reports and i dont rly care about it atm

quartz dust
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cn u play on mac

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?

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@formal thunder

light spruce
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I usually equate "testing" with bugs absent any other qualifiers is all

quartz dust
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mhm

formal thunder
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cn u play on mac
@quartz dust i dont see mac products as platforms for gaming tbh

quartz dust
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welp

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then i cant test

formal thunder
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I usually equate "testing" with bugs absent any other qualifiers is all
@light spruce i want ppl to test the game to test IF IT IS FUN
as long as it is fun bugs doesnt matter

quartz dust
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u should always have it for all platforms atleast mac

light spruce
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or maybe you didn't say testing and I just thought you did because.. drugs, alcohol, and doing six things at once

zinc matrix
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that's kind of crap, you need to have your games on lots of platform so you don't cut out the people that might actually wanna play it on that specific os.

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lots of gamers on linux and mac, i say it's ok to start out with only windows and release for those later tho

formal thunder
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u should always have it for all platforms atleast mac
@quartz dust it is out of my ability to
debug such game (i dont have mac)
i dont know if unreal builds/compiles game for mac

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i cant make games for platforms i dont have

zinc matrix
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play testers on that specific platform?

light spruce
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As someone who has used a lot of different platforms over the years.. I totally get not worrying about MacOS for the vast majority of things. It's usually not a big market for anything... and it's certainly not if you need some higher end GPUs to run it

zinc matrix
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im pretty sure there are other ways even if you don't have play testers

formal thunder
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guys i test for bugs and stuff

i need ppl to test if the game is fun and where to find ppl willing to do that?

light spruce
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Apple has never wanted to put good GPUs in their systems... and they didn't keep up with OpenGL specs (which were, themselves, kinda slow to change anyway) and instead of embracing something like Vulkan, they leaned into NIH and came up with Metal (which was already a name for some old S3 graphics thing on one ever used)

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((( IN STEREO )))

formal thunder
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well i dont want to rly talk about apple and their marketing and decisions
i have at least 6 reasons why i dont think about mac at all

zinc matrix
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i already told you mero

formal thunder
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ok so lets make a list of valid options

light spruce
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Is it single player and can you properly rebind keys in it?

formal thunder
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  1. r/indie games
    2 youtube
    3 ?
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make an itch io, instagram, twitter, facebook, reddit, with your gamedev name,

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i dont get this?

zinc matrix
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you gotta make some accounts on platforms like reddit, youtube, itch io, gamejolt, twitter and all that and post about your game and shit, updates, bug fixes, new features and engage with the community and post a trailer right before launch to build some hype up and people see what you are actually doing

formal thunder
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ichio is for simple games am i right? so it doesnt match

instagram isnt for building a comunity?

Twitter i dont know how to find ppl there

facebook propobly i would have to pay for adds?

zinc matrix
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sorry to burst your bubble but your game looks like a simple game, like an indie game which is what itch io and gamejolt are made for, if you wanna put it up on steam, it's ok go ahead but you might just lose your money and your game goes to shit

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how is instagram not for building a community?

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just be active, comment on posts, post stuff and people will find your twitter

formal thunder
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sorry to burst your bubble i mean,
insinuating that i dont know the level of my game

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is iritaiting

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and i dont want your advices

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thanks for nothing and pissing me of

zinc matrix
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i never really mentioned ads at all, but if you want to do it it's alright it will probably work if your game is good

formal thunder
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ok dont waste time on me

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i live inside a bubble

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so dont waste time on me

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period

zinc matrix
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sorry but your game is no cyberpunk tbh, it looks like an indie game and IS an indie game, tons of amazing games on itch io EVEN BETTER than yours, so idk why you wanna crap on itch io like that

formal thunder
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man

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plz

quartz dust
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tell em @zinc matrix

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preach

zinc matrix
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doesn't sound like you can really take constructive criticism that well, you need to really fix that because your games will be bad if you don't listen to your fans

quartz dust
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mhm

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fr

formal thunder
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@zinc matrix i didnt mean that my game is "too good" to be on ichio
i ment taht it will be heavy in memory so it might not be a place for it since most games tehre are simple

north torrent
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I won't release my game on Mac for moral reasons.

formal thunder
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@zinc matrix no i can take criticism but insinuating that i think my game is great and you are here to enlighten me is preposterous

quartz dust
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I won't release my game on Mac for moral reasons.
@north torrent ๐Ÿฅฒ

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not my fault i may or may not have gotton a phub virus on my windows 10

north torrent
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No big loss to anyone though, my game isn't anything special.

zinc matrix
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i never said your game was bad i just said it was definitely a simple game

quartz dust
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yea

formal thunder
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This game is made in a WEEK ofc it looks simple
OFC it isnt good

why would you say i dont know about it

quartz dust
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mmero

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hes just trynna say

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work more

zinc matrix
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simple and bad are very different things mero

quartz dust
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the game isnt ready bro

zinc matrix
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a simple game can be good or bad

quartz dust
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yea

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and making a good simple game

formal thunder
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the game isnt ready bro
@quartz dust i didnt say i want to do it now

quartz dust
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is hrd

formal thunder
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i thought i can ask in advance

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but i guess

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i cant

quartz dust
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we trynna give u some

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and your declining it

zinc matrix
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i never said your game wasn't ready

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i already know that it isn't

formal thunder
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guys

quartz dust
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guy

formal thunder
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whatever dont waste time on me

north torrent
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I wanted to buy a watermelon but the store was out of watermelons...

quartz dust
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@north torrent fuck that store

formal thunder
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im just going to move on

summer tulip
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still searching for the game they talking about

quartz dust
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lol

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he deleted the video @summer tulip

north torrent
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A cat tried to steal my pizza from the pizza delivery guy.

zinc matrix
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i just said that itch io and game jolt are good platforms for games like yours so don't dismiss them

quartz dust
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fuck that pizza guy for not giving him the pizza @north torrent

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i just said that itch io and game jolt are good platforms for games like yours so don't dismiss them
@zinc matrix yea theres some great games on those 2

light spruce
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Well this shit went off the rails while I was writing a reply on reddit

quartz dust
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lol

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i used to just scroll through game jolt all day looking for insperation

formal thunder
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ye i kind got iritated that @zinc matrix toke a position of some enlightened man ready to share some truth with me @light spruce

quartz dust
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game jolt and itchio the shits

zinc matrix
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also @formal thunder you mentioned your game being big in size, how big are we talking? 5gigs? 20 gigs? 30 gigs? 50? because you can compress your games and i can tell you how

quartz dust
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de

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do tell

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i wanna run huge games on my ass macbook

zinc matrix
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cause like itch and gamejolt actually limit the size of games, i believe you can only upload games that are 1 gig

quartz dust
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i can barley even run unreal on my mac

zinc matrix
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or email them and they might allow you to upload a bigger game

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y'all need to stop getting scammed by apple lol

north torrent
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I got Eastshade on Itch and it is much bigger than 1gb.

zinc matrix
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apple can sell a used sock and all the apple fans would rave and buy them instantly lol

quartz dust
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@zinc matrix i didnt buy this lol, my gaming pc broke and my uncle got me this 2018 macbook. mainly cause im a producer and macs are really good for music production

zinc matrix
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or email them and they might allow you to upload a bigger game
@zinc matrix @north torrent

north torrent
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Anyone who owns Mac products would be offended by my games anyways. All the stories I write are about 'working class people good, rich people bad'.

cursive crypt
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Don't think Macs are so rich ๐Ÿค”

quartz dust
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macs are good for certain things

formal thunder
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Don't think Macs are so rich ๐Ÿค”
@cursive crypt depends on the country
here it is too expensive to buy rly

quartz dust
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mine is 3000

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there expensive

cursive crypt
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I know it is kinda expensive, but is say mid-range ppl can afford too.

quartz dust
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yea

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u can get a mac 2011 for like 900$

north torrent
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Point is, people who own Macs are going to be offended by my games about the working class. That's all I am saying.

formal thunder
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I know it is kinda expensive, but is say mid-range ppl can afford too.
@cursive crypt depends on the country

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your mid isnt my mid

quartz dust
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@north torrent lol i live in the hood

summer tulip
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ah found the game

cursive crypt
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Yeah, but I don't want to dig on worldwide.

summer tulip
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we're talking about the rpg right

formal thunder
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ah found the game
@summer tulip you could just ask me

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H&S

summer tulip
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sorry he said you deleted the post haha

quartz dust
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C&B&T

formal thunder
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i deleted it here because it was in showcase

zinc matrix
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holup WAIT

quartz dust
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cock and ball and torcher

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C&B&T

zinc matrix
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can you actually put your game out on gog?

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for free?

quartz dust
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idk

zinc matrix
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i just checked and they mention nothing about money

quartz dust
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oh

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cool

light spruce
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Well.. let me give you some serious life ProTip shit here... you gotta learn when it's time to throw down hard and when you should just fall into that hands off and let it go territory. Because I can absolutely, one hundred percent promise you that no matter what medium you release something in, irrespective of its merits according to you or anyone else.... you will definitely have someone who hates it and doesn't give a shit about anything and someone who just doesn't like it because they like other things.

formal thunder
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aaand?

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where is the tip ๐Ÿ˜„

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ppl disagreee yea.. i guess we know it ;3

zinc matrix
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check your underwear

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you'll find the tip

quartz dust
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of my pp?

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alr ig so

zinc matrix
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ya got it

formal thunder
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im a girl

quartz dust
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to bad

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grow a pp

zinc matrix
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rip

formal thunder
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well at least i could say it since i heard my nickname sounds femalish xD

quartz dust
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ong who tf dont have a pp

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you non-pper

zinc matrix
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idk why but mero sounds like it'd be an italian name

quartz dust
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metro

formal thunder
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ppl from England say it sounds like females name

light spruce
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The ProTip is navigating those situations. Phil Fish, by all accounts, made a solid game with Fez. He also was frequently regarded as acting like a total dickbag stuck up his own ass.

quartz dust
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i just thought u were a weeb with a weird weeb name

zinc matrix
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well looks like your a german rapper

quartz dust
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FR

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AHAH

formal thunder
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@light spruce i hope at elast i will be nicer than thins author :3

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i rly think that trying to be generaly nice to ppl pays off

quartz dust
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put tht in your game

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someone

formal thunder
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even thou most of the times i feel like giving up

quartz dust
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and ill love you

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forever

light spruce
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It does. It's always better to take that high road when you can

quartz dust
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only cuz i made that song

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lol

formal thunder
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xd

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i ahve things i want to have in game

north torrent
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Where I come from if you are nice at work and do what your boss tells you, then you get rewarded by having to do the work of the slackers on top of your own work, for the exact same pay.

light spruce
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But ... being an asshole is a tool to have in your toolbox... and the key is knowing when to use that tool

formal thunder
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likth this

quartz dust
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Where I come from if you are nice at work and do what your boss tells you, then you get rewarded by having to do the work of the slackers on top of your own work, for the exact same pay.
@north torrent i dont work

north torrent
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I never said you did.

quartz dust
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i sell music

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๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿ‘

zinc matrix
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well you do work i guess

north torrent
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Stop puting @ before every time you say something to me.

quartz dust
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@north torrent why

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and the quotes just do that itself

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so

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no

zinc matrix
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i wanna work something i love

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like game dev

light spruce
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It's just like violence. It should be a thing on the list that you're capable of but you want it pretty far toward the bottom and you want to keep shit in check so you don't jump over steps to it before you need to.

formal thunder
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MaoTX3090ti
bu this is how you know someone is replying to you am i right? Xd

quartz dust
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@zinc matrix lets work ill make u scream trap

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lol

zinc matrix
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lol nah not music

formal thunder
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@quartz dust well i need music to my game if you want xD

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im looking for a composer atm

quartz dust
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herer take this

zinc matrix
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i also produce music doe ๐Ÿ˜Ž

quartz dust
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๐Ÿ˜Ž

north torrent
#

I think the key is really to do something you sort of kind of like.

Don't do a job you hate, but also don't fool yourself into thinking you can make money having fun. Jobs are supposed to be work, but often time you can find something that is pretty ok and a little fun.

quartz dust
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cool gang @zinc matrix

zinc matrix
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๐Ÿ†’ moment

light spruce
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Well... that's not a good sign. I can never remember exactly what trap is, but I can always remember that I don't like it

cursive crypt
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Trap is... a trap, for some.

quartz dust
robust gulch
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I can only compose classical music :(

cursive crypt
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Sounds good to me, lol

zinc matrix
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i thought when you said trap you meant like the other type of trap ANTO

light spruce
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Yeah. A job is a job. Sometimes it's a fun job, but it's still a job

quartz dust
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@formal thunder i made that for a game and no one likes it

north torrent
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I can us a banjo to open a grapefruit.

quartz dust
#

oh

formal thunder
zinc matrix
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im better at like sad and happy music, i can never make a sinister melody like what trap usually needs, even tho that's what i aim for

quartz dust
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@formal thunder bye

formal thunder
#

xd

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why ๐Ÿ˜„

quartz dust
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everyone is like

light spruce
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I miss writing music sometimes.

quartz dust
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"antone can u make me a film score" no nigga im not an orchestra

robust gulch
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lmao

summer tulip
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do it

zinc matrix
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damn this dark violin music kinda ๐Ÿ”ฅ

robust gulch
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@summer tulip nice pfp

zinc matrix
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bruh they gon be on yo head for the n word antone LMAO

quartz dust
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this is what i make

summer tulip
#

ty

formal thunder
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"antone can u make me a film score" no nigga im not an orchestra
@quartz dust well it is not what i ment :3

first i showed you this to share emotions i look for

secondly i wouldnt call this rly an ochestra but i didnt pay much attencion

robust gulch
zinc matrix
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damn these some nice beats you have dude

light spruce
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Writing music is one of the things I lost due to neurological damage

quartz dust
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damn these some nice beats you have dude
@zinc matrix ily

robust gulch
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Yeah @quartz dust I like that song

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good guitar

zinc matrix
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i've been producing for really long and i can never make something this good

quartz dust
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lol ty

zinc matrix
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mostly cause im very inconsistent lol

quartz dust
formal thunder
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@quartz dust so you will just ignore my clarification :?

zinc matrix
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damn thas nice

robust gulch
quartz dust
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yes

robust gulch
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The profanities!

quartz dust
#

@formal thunder

formal thunder
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that isnt very nice of you but ok

quartz dust
#

The profanities!
@robust gulch fuck you

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jkjk

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ily @robust gulch

robust gulch
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lmao

quartz dust
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that isnt very nice of you but ok
@formal thunder im not an orchestra

zinc matrix
#

do you have a tag?

quartz dust
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yea

zinc matrix
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what is it

formal thunder
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@formal thunder im not an orchestra
@quartz dust well if you were to read my clarification i said i dont need an orchestra

cursive crypt
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@robust gulch Hey, that was not bad. You sure you are not okay trying to add some synth/wave/dunno the word? Will vary your clients. Classical is... classic, well - good.

quartz dust
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lol

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my friend

zinc matrix
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that's cool

quartz dust
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i need a professional one tho

zinc matrix
#

you gotta like use em cause you never know, someone could steal your beat lol

quartz dust
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ye ik

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but if i catch em

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there done

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cuz i have the og project file

robust gulch
quartz dust
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@formal thunder ask him

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he is an orchestra

light spruce
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Profanities? Man... where is that thing I did where I replaced all the instruments with samples of "balls", "cock", and "nipples"?

quartz dust
#

;p

formal thunder
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@quartz dust anyway i can give you 1 thing taht should be helpfull

you say you are not an orchestra but you know what? YOU CAN BE if you want to

here -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zr3lwx9VyM

i recomend you this channel if you ever want to develop as a composer

Orchestral Music Production on 4 different levels: with Star Wars. In FL Studio 20.


๐ŸŽผ PROJECT FILES: https://www.patreon.com/al...

โ–ถ Play video
quartz dust
#

alex

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i know him

light spruce
#

Yeah. I've at least heard of Alex Moukala

quartz dust
summer tulip
#

nice, but. can you add some orchestra to that

quartz dust
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**im not an orchestra **

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also what

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lol

zinc matrix
light spruce
#

To answer my own question that no one else could have answered...

quartz dust
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sounds like

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idk

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idk what to call it

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2000s drums

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uh

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weird ass fx

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uh

#

uh

#

uh

zinc matrix
#

this untitled track soundin nice

quartz dust
#

tyler the creator in 2010 @zinc matrix

light spruce
zinc matrix
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lol

quartz dust
#

you suck

zinc matrix
#

this sounds like something from a mario game

quartz dust
#

no

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banjo cazzoie

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or however u spell it

light spruce
#

I was working on something for a friend..and he gave me some kind of shit about something... so that was the nex version I sent him

zinc matrix
#

mine are sweaty

quartz dust
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mine are weird

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gtg im in school and not doing shit cuz im talking to u 2

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bye

robust gulch
#

bye

zinc matrix
#

bye

light spruce
#

sigh.. every time I dig through the old music directory... it's just a reminder of things I can't do anymore

robust gulch
#

ahaha 4:20

zinc matrix
#

tbh you probably can

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lol i didn't even notice that

#

just gotta relearn a bit of the software and the skills will probably come back, unless you stopped like a decade ago

robust gulch
#

You ever so lazy that you program a virtual assistant to open your classes for you?

zinc matrix
#

bro programming that probably takes more time than just opening the classes on your own LMAO

robust gulch
#

ik lmao

zinc matrix
#

task failed succesfully

robust gulch
#

but now all i have to do is say "hey rat bot open my class" and make my mom think im talking to her every time!

zinc matrix
#

that's so cool lol

light spruce
#

I used the phrase "task failed successfully" last night when I threw myself off a ledge in Destiny

robust gulch
#

oof