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median wraith
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and tell you

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hey

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"we know each programmer have their way, you can pull the whole code out and make the whole thing from ground"

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well they called me from Madrid to do that lol

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an artist CEO

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obviously

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@

I remember you carried on your back a couple of projects
@finite lark had remote working last months for americas so didn't had time at all, refocusing now

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@broken sigil yeah waiting myself for the new chasis update from last gen renaults into dacia

finite lark
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lmao

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well nice to see you are doing good David

median wraith
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well I wish stable things to be stable but

finite lark
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yeah sure... but crazy times, you know..

median wraith
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yeah... well is water clear I need to find things in remote outside from here

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despite crazy times, find these were crazy always haha

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is easiert to have something stable for sure

fringe sundial
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i knew spain was a disaster if you want to be worker

median wraith
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quality of life

fringe sundial
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tho i can get cheap workers for my stuff

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once i need them

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only reason to do anything here

finite lark
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while it sounds lame

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it is a reality

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and lots of people beg for work

fringe sundial
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i meak i 100% know i can get unpaid interns

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to do stuff like QA or some basic level design

finite lark
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ofc you can

fringe sundial
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i probably will

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not yet tho

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you cant have interns in a remote work

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its impossible

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i had 3 interns on DWVR and after 3 months they stayed, all i had to show was a single gun + a single sword asset

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one did nothing (happens). The other 2 one did the sword, one did the gun

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the problem is that they had no clue

finite lark
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well, they expect some sort of mentoring

fringe sundial
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they were from like 3rd year of degree and they had no clue

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whatsoever

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i did have to teach them a lot of things

finite lark
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so probably getting interns for free is going to slow you down

fringe sundial
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like retopology and UVs

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the problem is that the overhead of the mentoring was pretty big on remote

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couse in an office you can just come every couple hours and see how the guys are doing

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but in remote you cant

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so you give a task

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they come 2 days later

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task is done by horribly so

finite lark
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yeah exactly

fringe sundial
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and need to explain all the thing and why you have to throw half of it to the trash

finite lark
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I experienced that before

fringe sundial
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in an office you can correct quickly

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which is better for everyone

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i get more assets couse they get done faster, the guy doesnt get work thrown into the trash couse stuff is corrected soon

finite lark
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I spent 2 years refactoring rotten code... you don't really want to do that

fringe sundial
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i have seen the most unholy clusterfucks you can think of

finite lark
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I wish I would have started it all over...

fringe sundial
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when freelancing unity stuff

finite lark
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I trust you

fringe sundial
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code written by interns who werent even programmers

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and projects with way more plugins that they should have to kind of patch things up

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which of course then fails because unity plugins suck

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my favourite thing

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was a level that had some spikes come from the floor

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as a trap

foggy path
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bad code written by interns is to be expected

fringe sundial
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the issue was

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each spike

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individually

foggy path
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my current job the previous CTO wrote the most unbelievable garbage

fringe sundial
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was its own object

foggy path
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:D

fringe sundial
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with an animation

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so this was not only something like 800 game objects with meshes

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but when the spike triggered

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it was 800 animations playing on skeletal mesh

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for a phone game

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so it did 1000+ drawcalls plus a huge hit to cpu

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game went instantly into like 3 fps

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this was fine-ish in flat gaming couse you got killed anyway and it fades to black

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but i was porting that thing to VR

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where i needed stable FPS at all times

finite lark
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and that's something you learn with experience... so yeah a junior level engineer won't be able to predict such behaviour... because the problem with working with an engine is that you believe that this abstract layer will take care of your poorly managed memory scheme

median wraith
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What I hate is when someone that hire noobs pretend to hire pros as noobs for same income

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The only stupid in the table is the one hiring

finite lark
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yeeeep, that's a common missconception

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if you are hiring junior level engineers, they are juniors

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and they should be mentored

fringe sundial
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did you see that chapter of that TV show about job interviews?

finite lark
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yes

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YES totally

fringe sundial
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where they wanted a unity expert to basiclaly do everything for 1200 a month

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with overtime

finite lark
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exactly

fringe sundial
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and the people actually knew their shit, some of them

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like bruh

finite lark
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but.. look Vic

fringe sundial
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thats such a good deal

finite lark
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I think it was half staged

fringe sundial
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paying 1200 for 2000 euros level work

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@finite lark it isnt

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you can see it on the linkedin of the guys

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the guy who got hired actually did work in the place

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for a few months

finite lark
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I know one of them XD

fringe sundial
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i remember in the show the best guy, by far, was the one who went all mysterious to not give too much info to the TV show

median wraith
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the guys that hire or the hired ?

finite lark
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that's my friend

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@fringe sundial

fringe sundial
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@finite lark literally best guy of the program

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i dont remember what the name was

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but it was something like "whats your name" - "john" "john what?" "just john"

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and i think he did use fake name

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smart guy

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and went to a job interview for 1200 euros

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fuck

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tho reminds me of me

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Tequila games interviewed me for a VR programmer job

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they offered 1200 euros

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at this time i even had VR Multigames published

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with like 50k installs

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so i told them to fuck off (politely)

finite lark
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lmao

foggy path
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1200?

finite lark
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yeah

foggy path
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where do you get people for that cheap :X

finite lark
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that's typical spanish

foggy path
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oh wow really

finite lark
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😂 😂 😂 😂

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yeah

foggy path
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hope your living costs match

finite lark
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well.... kinda you know

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except in the big cities

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where the rent is

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OOOOF

foggy path
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:D

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yeah

finite lark
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I wouldn't be in bcn if I wouldn't share appartment

fringe sundial
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@foggy path apartment in madrid-spain goes from 600 to 900

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for a 1 person tiny flat

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the same place where they pay 1200

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so yeah its beyond fuckd

finite lark
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barcelona-madrid same

fringe sundial
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the thing is that there are a lot of young gamedevs from schools/etc, and a lot of engineers/CS students

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and not enough job posts

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by like an order of magnitude

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so everyone who is halfway good jst leaves

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on spain only remains the guys who dont want to leave spain for some reason, and the bad ones

foggy path
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Yeah I have a 42 sqm apartment for about 500 eur / month, even in my first job I was paid about 2300 eur / month

finite lark
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exactly, I am one of the bad ones :poggers:

fringe sundial
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i will not work for another guy (as employee) in spain

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i know they would try to underpay me

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its much more worth it to just freelance or do contracts worldwide

finite lark
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for the academia is different

fringe sundial
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or even work in my own stuff

finite lark
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you can for sure release a paper on your own... but if I release it under bsc name it will be for sure get more attention

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also conference payments and whatnot..

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I am using bsc like some sort of a launcher

fringe sundial
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yeah academia needs to be on... an academy

finite lark
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you can say it louder but not clearer

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xD

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I love researching, it's my life

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I enjoy every single minute of it

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and BSC is providing me the tools

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expensive a.f. embedded boards

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all sort of equipment

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something I wouldnt have by working in my own

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I want also to move

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but I feel that is not yet the moment

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I plan to do an internship at esa or somewhere else

median wraith
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under 1500€ in madrid

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is crap

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that's the fact

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price included

finite lark
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if you don't share flat

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same in barcelona

median wraith
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Yeah but

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oh I'm 30 years old

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I have to share flat

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because you know

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ffs

finite lark
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yeah........

foggy path
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That's pretty terrible :P

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I was able to afford to live alone when I was 18

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to be fair at the time it was partially because I got paid by the state to be a student lol

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but once I got work then yeah

median wraith
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and the people ask later why the 30 years old are the new 15 years old

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well there you got, you pay them like it

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are 5 sharing a house

foggy path
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we always hear that in spain it's part of the culture to live together

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but it kinda sounds like it's part of not being paid enough

median wraith
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"we always hear that in spain it's part of the culture to live together"

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Well that' correct and incorrect

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live together yeah

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but in family

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no with randoms

foggy path
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ah I see

median wraith
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what you hear maybe is they are more familiar or something

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this wasn't a thing by 1990

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the people was able to pay a hotel or whatever it was individually

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now live like immigrants in their own country

foggy path
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I think living costs in Helsinki are a bit higher than where I live

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but afaik they do also have higher salaries to match

median wraith
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by 1990 for example

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nobody here rents

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all buy a house at my ages

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by now can't even pay a rent

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I don't know a single person at my age aka about 30s

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that purchased a house

foggy path
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I live in a sort of pseudo-rental

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it's not really rental but it's also not quite owning either

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it's kinda convenient, for example when my fridge failed I just called them and they carried a new one in, didn't have to pay

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if I owned then I'd have to pay that out of pocket which would kinda suck

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especially when said fridge failed again a year or two after lol

median wraith
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oh

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well I rather would want to purchase a house than have a rent

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you can do holes over all the walls etc

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🤔 🤖

foggy path
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yeah I guess if you want to renovate

median wraith
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don't need permission for anything

foggy path
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I don't particularly have anything I'd wanna do

north torrent
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Who asks before they put holes in walls?

foggy path
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The ones who rent and don't want to pay for damages

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:P

north torrent
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If you don't ask they can'

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can't say no.

foggy path
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tbh you probably can drill a hole in a wall in a rental here if it's for like... putting up a painting or something

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but if you fuck it up and break something, well then sucks to be you

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although that would still suck if you owned it I guess lol

north torrent
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if you don't want holes in the walls don't rent it out.

foggy path
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Yeah that's a perfect solution :p

north torrent
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Screw the wealthy land owning class that just wants to make income off of owning things.

cursive crypt
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I take a little of my words back, gimp is piece of shit when channel work is involved. I'm better off with command line, lol.

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Or okay, maybe that was strong word. Nevertheless it is pita.

north torrent
fathom wadi
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@plucky pagoda you are right they are resellers though. Part of France Telecom (or used to be). So they sell reseller packages mostly. Not the cheapest service but it's been rock solid compered to my others, they never rip me off like others, and they have a really good set of features for the price.

median wraith
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mom I broke the audio plugin

fresh heath
fresh heath
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They'll probably get away with a mere slap on the wrist, like Microsoft did before

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But it's still nice

fathom wadi
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It's just a way to fleece a corporation who is fleecing the tax system tbh. The thing is, Google will make more with tax evasion and subsidiaries than the courts could ever get back due to the law. It needs changing to be anti-monopoly instead of monopoly enabling. Even when they break down the monopolies, they hide behind the law which protects them.

zinc matrix
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Yo when sending out an add for jobs, what does royalty in compensation mean

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Ah I looked it up, essentially means to own the product.

plucky pagoda
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@fathom wadi I was just being a smartass for general purposes.

foggy path
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Not really, it just means you're paid a percentage of the profits (possibly, there can be multiple ways the royalties are calculated)

fathom wadi
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@plucky pagoda They do have some cheesy selling methods but I like to tease them. So when they ask a question, I always try answer it outside of the box. They seem to appreciate it. I have to say though, when it comes to needing something, they are always on form. I've ran a few web hosts and none of them were as good. The backend is great too. Makes GoDaddy and 1and1 look like amateurs.

plucky pagoda
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We're so fucked in Ohio.

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A brief summary of today's press conference from the Governor : "Everything is fucked. Our hospitals can not keep up and may in a short time be overwhelmed. Most of the spread is from visiting family and informal gatherings. I'm optimistic people will just magically start doing the right thing and wear a mask and it will all get better when the unicorns arrive and start farting rainbows."

fathom wadi
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We are in a Tier 3 lockdown right now. The government won't give us enough money to cope. Even though they gave £1billion of tax money to the DUP (a Northern Irish political party) in order to secure a win at the last election.
UK is in the midst of decay and the leadership are all making money from it whilst people lose their entire livelihoods and are dying unnecessarily because we are all avoiding the doctors to help out the NHS, which the Tories are trying to sell even though they don't own it.

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It's time we elected @north torrent to start the "Eat the Rich" party.

plucky pagoda
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Most of the world has put ignorant morons in office and now we get to watch incompetence in action.

fresh heath
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"Eat the Rich" is so yesterday, now it's hip to "Yeet the Rich"

fathom wadi
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Not since Epstein was murdered by himself

light spruce
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Failing upwards, everybody!

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On the plus side, reading the politics subreddit no longer has any particular effect on my emotions.

solid aurora
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well look at it from perspective

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Covid

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was best thing to happen

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it's not that deadly as other dieseases

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and it shows perfectly how hilariously people are unprepared to handle problems first hand

light spruce
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I'm still waiting on the punchline.

solid aurora
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it exposes decades of stupid goverments, complacent

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and belief that hoomans control everything

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and when it finally happens

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hoomans still stoopid

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and invent excuses

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that it was caused by something

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yes it was

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nature said

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"fuck you"

light spruce
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I didn't need 1.2 million people to die to illustrate that. Just like I didn't need to see your inability to manage more than 75% of a thought for every line to realize that you're fucking dumb.

solid aurora
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seems like

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1.2mln

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is still not enough

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for most world to accept , that as civilization, we are not nearly as advanced as we'd like to be

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or rather as we think of our selves

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so not worry, next time is going to be super ebola, and we are not going out this easy ;

light spruce
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I don't know what to do with a Yoda. Does that mean I should have ridden him like a backpack? Pulled him out of a swamp? Done weird flips with a lightsaber? Help me out here, Mike. Help me... help you... help me... TOM CRUISE IDENTITY CRISIS

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Though now I do need to watch the Star Wars bad lip reading songs again. So thanks for that. <not sarcasm>

fathom wadi
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I have read stories about genetic modifications to diseases that attack specific ethnicities. Some of it was rumour, some of it was conspiracy theory but some of it was actual science. You would think that with such levels of science available, they could create heuristic antibodies that quell the changes enacted in polymorphic diseases and bugs like flu.

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psoriasis kicked in again?

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It can be yeah

light spruce
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Snow? Time to rally then.

fathom wadi
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Not as bad as Seborrheic dermatitis. That shit is insane. The crippling effect it can have on someone's image of themselves can lead to more than just a skin condition.

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it can effect your entire body. Cracks and bleeds as the skin grows too fast

light spruce
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Seagulls! Stop it now.

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Best thing about The Division 2: they finally moved to wearing proper packs for running across an entire city instead of a sling pack that went over the wrong shoulder.

fresh heath
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@fathom wadi So that's why I have these weird marks on my thighs

fathom wadi
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you are a bugged NPC?

fresh heath
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I'm talking about the dermatitits

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I have it

fathom wadi
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I know im in a moderately happy mood today so my jokes get worse.

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😉

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My wife has the seborrheic dermatitis. I've seen the struggle she has had with it. I just have a bit of psoriasis from the thyroid issue in that respect.

fresh heath
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I didn't associate these skin cracks with the seborrheic dermatitis before

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I only knew about other symptoms

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I don't care about my appearance much, but I can imagine how much worse it could affect women's self-image

fathom wadi
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indeed. Luckily I don't have a thing about people's image. I look inside at people, not outside. That's how you end up with 2 psycho ex's who refuse you access to your kids because they don't like you anymore :/

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#projection 😄

hidden drift
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that's been all over the unreal-related news for a long time now.

light spruce
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nah, it runs iOS

fresh heath
rich quiver
fathom wadi
median wraith
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CC BY ShareAlike licenses affect individual files or the whole project ?

cursive crypt
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What do you mean? Are you trying to workaround a license?

rare sparrow
median wraith
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@cursive crypt well no, just asking if affect the edited file or the whole project as GPL

fathom wadi
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damn was just gonna post that @rare sparrow awesome news.

cursive crypt
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OpenWhatever standards forever!

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@median wraith you seem to mess up cc with gpl :)
Maybe just share a bit more of your case, so you get correct answer.

median wraith
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Meanwhile in Autodesk

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@cursive crypt lets say I use the song "Pepa Pig Dances.mp3" that's under CC-BY-SA on my game, need to be the whole game CC BY-SA alike or can release the edited song separably ?

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sent the question to Creative Commons anyway is kinds confusing on that one

cursive crypt
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ofc, it does not need your game be cc too. That license is wrt to that file. You need to credit the author.

fathom wadi
median wraith
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@cursive crypt well that isn't what the store pages describe, that's why sent a text to the makers of the license

cursive crypt
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Maybe the add stuff to it? What they say?

median wraith
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I see a shit lol @fathom wadi thank you twitter

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@cursive crypt they say it spread as GPL, what makes no sense as CC-BY don't do that

cursive crypt
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That bullshit.

fathom wadi
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@median wraith video ain't as important as the fact you can access the GBuffer now

cursive crypt
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@median wraith thinking about it, likely they say it spreads like gpl (lol) because it is ShareAlike, but that relevant only for the file itself and any changes on it. If you do that, you must use the same license basically.

median wraith
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well technically the non commercial CY

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don't allows the whole final product to be commercial

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so this by someones affect the whole product too to be the same idk

cursive crypt
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CY?

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Are you talking about CC NC? If so, yea. But your case is not that one.

median wraith
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CC BY-SA

This license lets others remix, adapt, and build upon your work even for commercial purposes, as long as they credit you and license their new creations under the identical terms. This license is often compared to “copyleft” free and open source software licenses. All new works based on yours will carry the same license, so any derivatives will also allow commercial use. This is the license used by Wikipedia, and is recommended for materials that would benefit from incorporating content from Wikipedia and similarly licensed projects.
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"This license is often compared to “copyleft”"

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😂 well maybe ebano market etc are correct

light spruce
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Wall of text crits for 200 damage ! !

cursive crypt
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

fresh heath
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cursive crypt
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Serious Sam?

fresh heath
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Yes

sharp kite
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Hi, is anyone here using a Zed camera?

pearl compass
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minecraft is "crude" by comparison? seems they made a few billions from their community.

foggy path
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I guess it's crude visually

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since it's blocky and low res

pearl compass
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maybe. but I didnt realize he was talking aestetics. I thought he was talking "systems"

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minecraft, by far, is more modable, as is obvious

fresh heath
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He was talking about visuals, yeah

ancient hornet
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you missed the whole point there I think 🙂

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since minecraft has "crude" visuals, mods are easy to do and look good

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so you can devote THAT much more energy in the mod gameplay itself

pearl compass
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well, I let it go because he point in fact said, in what I posted "where the entire esthetic of the EXPERIENCE" -- that is not just visuals.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

foggy path
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"aesthetic of the experience"

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it's just a weird phrase imo meaning "the aesthetic of the game"

cursive crypt
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Author trying to sugar coat, kinda does not make sense. Aesthetic should be how an object is perceived.

serene nymph
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OMG, lol this is exactly a synopsis of Homeland on SNL: https://youtu.be/K4aeibd1Rrc

Carrie Mathison (Anne Hathaway) becomes unhinged before going in to interrogate Abu Nazir's number two guy. With Saul Berenson (Bill Hader), David Estes (Kenan Thompson), Nicholas Brody (Taran Killam) and Dana Brody (Nasim Pedrad). [Season 38, 2012]

#SNL

Subscribe to SNL: ht...

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*with separate jokes

oblique sandal
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Anyone know how to fix steam downloads dropping to 0 kb/s randomly? I've got stable and fast internet.

median wraith
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UE4 filled 40GB of the SSD at open a assets scene, seriously ?

median wraith
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there you go

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best part is the anti addiction

median wraith
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where are the spaghetti cookers here ?

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some Blender users here ?

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how the hell works the auto smooth on 2.9 because don't give me the chance to change the angle

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ohhh had to clear the data

summer tulip
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sup with steam? Could you go China without these restrictions before?

serene nymph
light spruce
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Well.

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There are definitely some issues with that on a technical level... starting with "why did you wait weeks to do anything?"

light spruce
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I didn't think it was because I haven't secretly thought you were a serial killer.

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I'm glad he had the foresight to make arrows but not the goddamned bow to go with it

fathom wadi
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I can't believe he didn't go the whole hog and fashion a Fleshlight for the long haul days 😄

median wraith
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Was the post removed?

fathom wadi
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Hope it wasn't due to my related joke. Just having a bit of a manic moment so happiness gives me humour. Don't worry, I'll be depressed again soon enough and back to moaning.

light spruce
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Bad jokes. Not dad jokes. Which is why you should be banned. It's not the 1980s anymore. No one even knows what a waterbed is.

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I don't remember what it was like. Too long ago.

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I have springs in mine. I think I would probably sweat too much in the latex foam ones.

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I also slept in a hammock for six months straight

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Way to ruin the sexual thrill of it.

fresh heath
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It has a handle!

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Such a cool looking machine

light spruce
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I remember the very attractive woman I bought it from saying she wished she had a place for one.

fathom wadi
unborn lotus
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Is that from existenz?

light spruce
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🥃

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Kinda forgot. Don't put as much 101 proof whiskey in your mouth at once, idiot

fluid bloom
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maybe it's the lack of sleep but I found that so funny I lol'd

cursive crypt
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Kinda

median wraith
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Oh the devgrants from Epic reply if are for bad news too

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didn't know

hidden drift
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https://ldjam.com/events/ludum-dare/47/prelude-to-a-squish made something totally game-engine-free which may be pretty off topic for unreal slackers-- but on topic, it seems harder to share games made with unreal engine because people have to run some untrusted exe unless there's some way to target html5 with ue4?

foggy path
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yeah seems kinda usual gamejam issue

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browser based games get way more plays/rates exactly because it's much much easier

median wraith
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there isn't nearest to linear there is ?

fresh heath
worldly sapphire
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Is there a foolproof way to check whether a Vive Controller is v1 or v2? I have a sinking feeling someone pulled a switcheroo on us

unborn lotus
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email the serial number to the manufacturer?

tidal ivy
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googling the serial number should be enough

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2.0 controllers are normally blue though

median wraith
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question for pros:
UE4 stores generated Mipmaps in the texture and switch on runtime
or are calculated on first game execution ?

scenic sable
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yeah mipmaps are stored with the texture (but some stuff generate on runtime, like render targets iirc)

cursive crypt
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"he" the texture? 😄

stable escarp
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@median wraith mips are part of the texture and loaded in GPU as a whole, so there's no actual switching on CPU happening

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texture streaming was meant to solve it...but...

median wraith
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another thing

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Came from test with
GL_NEAREST_MIPMAP_LINEAR
and
GL_NEAREST_MIPMAP_NEAREST

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the relatives to this ones are

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MinMagFilter point and MipFilter linear
and
MinMagFilter point and MipFilter point

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?

cursive crypt
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hmu, aint that opengl?

median wraith
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yeah that's why I'm asking if equal in results

cursive crypt
#

yeah, look like these. Tbh, never played with these so much, sigh, not my job currently. Just read on 🙂

fathom wadi
#

@unborn lotus close. Same director. But it's Naked Lunch

fresh heath
cursive crypt
#

I'm so used to seeing custom languages and scripts being "so good"...

fresh heath
cursive crypt
#

Dude, you are like unofficial news bot for the lounge. Can't even follow up on your chain of articles 🤔

fresh heath
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Lol

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Just sharing the stuff I thought looks interesting

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I guess it's weird

fathom wadi
#

This is interesting. People walking around without masks. 60% increase in reported infections in less than half a week.

mossy nexus
unborn lotus
#

most likely covid (a less aggresive form) will become an endemic disease like the flu

mossy nexus
#

Have a drink of Dunning Kruger.. on the house!

zinc matrix
#

y'all know how to load and unload parts of the map? like in minecraft how chunks appear when you get close and they dissapear when you get too far

mossy nexus
#

Yeah, I just take an eraser and run them out.

fresh heath
#

That's called level streaming in Unreal

mossy nexus
#

Pfft, that sounds suspiciously like a sensible answer... in Lounge too... disgraceful.

zinc matrix
#

aight

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i'll check a tutorial on that

fathom wadi
#

After being on Twitter for an hour today, everything outside seems sensible.

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im surprised it wasn't "12346"

mossy nexus
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Thats one way to keep calm with the world outside 😄

cursive crypt
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@fresh heath its fine man, just as I said can't follow up, lol. Too old to switch tasks.

unborn lotus
mossy nexus
#

Yeah, that's them just admitting that they haven't a clue if they can eradicate it.

fathom wadi
#

they know they can't. SARS doesn't go away, it evolves. Unless they take everyone who has it and separate them from everyone who doesn't. Then burn everyone who has it. Along with the animals and everything else. It's going to be here in some form or another. It was here before and it will remain.

foggy path
#

wait

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Trump's password was seriously "maga2020!"

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That is so fucking good lol

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I bet Hillary's email server was more secure than this alex

zinc matrix
#

damn i wanna watch that

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would be hot

foggy path
#

probably not

zinc matrix
#

tbh never bothered me in any games

fresh heath
#

The weapon is basically your character

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I guess people want to see their avatar

foggy path
#

It never really bothered me much either

zinc matrix
#

no game i've played the weapon has annoyed me

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i think it's aight

fresh heath
#

I think weapons are a bit too big in newer games, but in older games they were fine, maybe it's more of an FOV issue

zinc matrix
#

not annoying but personally i prefer to have the gun there at all times

foggy path
#

It depends on if you can hipfire

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If you can then it would be weird if the gun isn't visible I think

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In some games you can holster the weapon, like PUBG

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yeah

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a holster mechanic might be an option if you wanna do something with that

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in PUBG it just puts the gun away and you move a little bit faster

zinc matrix
#

have him holding it straight up and maybe even increase it's length so we can see atleast the tip 😉 i think it would look better that way, cuz if you lower the camera and look way up, you'd probably end up seeing the characters chin, that's what happened when i tried to make a fps.

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yeah i guess, tbh i thought it was a sword lol

#

i hate october, just all these horror games on epic games, and i don't like horror

thin storm
#

I tried that ALS but I could not get it to not look broken. now I use the standard fps controller. its also way more snappier and faster.

zinc matrix
#

tried it once, literally my models shoulders were sticking up

fathom wadi
#

worked for me. In fact I love it. Integrated a climbing plugin into it too.

stable dust
#

Comments redacted.

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Your right, terribly sorry.

zinc matrix
#

tbh a couple games have used it already so it's probably gonna be too recognizable

fathom wadi
#

by whom? Game devs? They should be making games not playing them :D
Seriously tho. When this system is advanced to the point it has full physical animations, it will be the same as every other anim tool that does the same. I don't see mass usage as a problem either. If it's used a lot, it's because its good at what it does.

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aye

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its all replaceable

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The modular nature of it actually surprised me when I integrated another plugin into it. Made it a breeze

thin storm
#

I thought the same I dont need to make animations because this thing is animating at runtime. but yeah I ran in so many issues that it took too much time to get to work properly and some stuff I couldnt fix at all. but I very happy with the new one.

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the fps game starter kit. lol

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yes that one.

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I think there are better ones out there but If you have experience that's all you need. I couldnt start from scratch so.

median wraith
#

well if you have exp you don't need these :p

thin storm
#

dont know, I use my own sets of animations and some from ALS. lol

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but yeah I could put all my logic and progress form als to this on the last weekend and I'm further now thenbefore. probably, I use my own guns and stuff.

fresh heath
#

Maybe I should try using ALS for NPC animation in my shooter

median wraith
#

On my end I tend to use always my own solutions

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I don't like Frankensteins

fathom wadi
#

with any rigging and animation, it's always best to have your own system, but although I've animated for years now I still thought I'd save all the time by using ALS as it would only do what I would setup anyway

median wraith
#

I'm trying to use TrenchBroom in combo with Blender but good lord

thin storm
#

lol I never said you should buy it.

median wraith
#

these kits are quite far from even 2002 games standards

fathom wadi
#

I wouldn't use that FPS Starter Kit if I were new. It's literally all the stuff you should be learning and not skipping. I wonder what people do when they buy it and stare at it for hours thinking "how can I add my next idea?"

fresh heath
#

@median wraith Speaking of TrenchBroom/Blender, how do you handle lighting? I wonder if it's a good idea to bake lightmaps in Blender

median wraith
#

I started making the level in Blender but good lord this nightmare compared with the old gold editors

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Well the idea is export in obj from trench to Blender

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and do there a fast pass removing invisible faces and lightmap

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do you know what the hell is the scale to import into blender ?

fresh heath
#

From TrenchBroom? No idea

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I kinda want to use Valve's Hammer editor because that's what I have most experience with

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There's also its clone called J.A.C.K.

median wraith
#

oh is 0.3125

fathom wadi
#

@median wraith well Blender uses a dynamic scale. So it's about what you set it up. The scale didn't change. The interpretation of the scale did. Check your setup is in mm and if it's not right, try a different one 🙂

fresh heath
#

0.3125 looks like a pretty arbitrary scale

median wraith
#

well old school you know

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@fathom wadi yeah I were trying to import from the editor into Blender

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seems 0.3125 to fit the grid

fathom wadi
#

you have that backwards. You make the grid fit the scaling technically 😄

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Blender just presumes you know the scale and lets you set it up how you want. The export is the real scaling tool.

median wraith
#

technically

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Quake format is 32 units per unit

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aka

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1 / 32 = 0,03125

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so technically is even smaller

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@fresh heath I never liked the Hammer editor other than for vertex editing

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COD Radiants and Quake Radiants were way faster than that

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and TrenchBroom is kinda similar

analog bone
#

Are weapons in general "copyrighted", like can I use an M4 model in my game? If I'm not including the name of the gun but still using the model should I be okay?

fathom wadi
#

they are yes

median wraith
#

COD Cold War is using some weapons with fake names from what I can tell

analog bone
#

Like the shape? Cause I know that the names are trademarked, but can the appearance be copyrighted?

median wraith
#

seems like they don't like to face any new news from manufacturers lol

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Videogames 3D models still mediocre visually, so don't think they tell you anything

#

anyway better ask that to experts or something

analog bone
#

Yup, What do you think would be the price of a license to use the gun in game?

fathom wadi
#

well you fund a weapons manufacturer so there is the cost of your soul.

fresh heath
#

Unfortunately you also fund weapons manufacturers when you pay taxes

fathom wadi
#

you presume I pay my taxes :p

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Seriously though. Im not rich enough for tax avoidance

#

When I pay my taxes in future, I shall write "F.A.O the NHS only" on the form

fresh heath
#

all your base are belong to us

median wraith
#

Still trying to figure out how the hell split the view on trenchbroom

placid thistle
#

@median wraith what Blender version do you use ?

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@fresh heath Blender doesn't bake lightmaps

fathom wadi
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@placid thistle you can do it but its a manual thing.

median wraith
#

@placid thistle 2.9

fresh heath
fathom wadi
#

Cycles only too not Evee

placid thistle
#

so, what are you going to do with those "lightmaps" ?!

fresh heath
#

I'm not sure if there is a point in using Eevee over Cycles for baking stuff anyway

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@placid thistle What people usually do with lightmaps

fathom wadi
#

Offset some of the load I guess. Not that it really has much purpose. Perhaps for external use

fresh heath
#

It could be a way to avoid Unreal's lightmapper's issues

fathom wadi
#

doubt it

median wraith
#

I don't see myself using the Blender baker to be used later in UE4 lol

fathom wadi
#

well if you wanted some textures without baking the in-engine lighting in, but still have ambient occlusion or some other effect baked in, it technically could be useful

median wraith
#

there are no engine native managers for that, in other hand you can make an area with given texture

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but the light won't be correct

placid thistle
#

when I was n00b dev I also thought baking lightmaps in Blender will solve all of my lightmaps problems (in old FOSS engines and in UE4). Turned out it's doesn't quite work as I imagined

median wraith
#

you can get a flat shadow

fathom wadi
#

yeah probably not

median wraith
#

only if we had some kind of node to set the secondary UV as light color or something

placid thistle
#

there is a reason engines have specialized lightmappers - learn how to use them

fathom wadi
#

lightmapped objects are a closed environment as well from what I recall. ie. only readable in the engine. So you couldn't have any comparison with lighting in Blender until you went through the process fully. And the export/import shuffle would probably take up so much time during tweaking you would drop it like a hot potato 😄

median wraith
#

@fresh heath Godot have right now the best support for native Hammer and TrechBroom tools

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the import is native inside the engine

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with a plugin

placid thistle
#

you can kinda sorta get baked shadow with unlit materials, but 1. you need to build and UV map level in Blender, 100% and 2. you will never get movable object lit with that method (unless you dig deep into renderer/shaders)

fathom wadi
#

wouldn't the shadow get negatively effected by the lighting on top though? Presuming it's not jet black

placid thistle
#

well, the idea is that you won't have any lighting in UE4

fathom wadi
#

ah

placid thistle
#

it will be just materials/texture sorcery

light spruce
fresh heath
#

Is someone already using the new lightmapper in 4.26? I've heard good things about it

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Is it in the previews?

median wraith
placid thistle
#

@fresh heath I mean, I hate to be that guy, but do you read forums / watch Epic livestreams ?!

fresh heath
#

Occasionally, I don't watch every stream or read every topic

placid thistle
#

well, you don't need to read anything except for announcements for engine previews and releases to know what's in

fresh heath
#

The first preview announcement on the forum I skimmed

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Don't remember anything lightmapper-related catching my eye

placid thistle
#

🤷‍♂️

median wraith
#

the new baker

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needs a RTX gpu

placid thistle
#

no you don't

median wraith
#

I live in 1998

placid thistle
#

1060 6Gb and up support DXR

median wraith
#

because 1060 have RTX support lmao

placid thistle
#

no, it doesn't have RTX in hardware

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it's called GTX, not RTX

median wraith
#

don't have RTX hardware but Nvidia released the path so can run RT

placid thistle
#

however, some of the functionality is supported in the driver

median wraith
#

I still on the 970GTX so

placid thistle
#

I tried RTX Quake 2 on my 1060 and it was a shit show 😦

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somone who is familiar with the matter said that while real-time RTX is going to be slow, lightmaps baking should be fast enough to justify use of DXR Lightmass instead of good ol' CPU Lightmass

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I've yet to install 4.26 preview to try

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it's beta though and not really on par with CPU Lightmass.. Not sure I want to use a buggy lightmapper

median wraith
#

well the baker will be normal, don't expect to be better than Blender GPU baker, just is a single guy working on it and they will target for future use cases

fresh heath
#

I tried Quake 2 RTX on my 1070 and I could endure it at lower resolutions, but I'm very tolerant to low framerates after years and years of being stuck on ancient hardware

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I beat Portal 2 on a single-core Celeron and an Intel GMA X3100 GPU

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The average framerate was like 10

fathom wadi
#

@median wraith dude how have you done anything with a 970 for the past year or two? Mine ran out of steam in 2017

placid thistle
#

well, one thing trying a game, another - taking longer than CPU Lightmass to build lighting 😂 I can not endure that

fathom wadi
#

Someone buy Hevedy a 2060 or something. I would if I had the money 😄

median wraith
#

@fathom wadi hey all I did were in the 970GTX

fathom wadi
#

yeah that must be painful

median wraith
#

actually somethings ran on the 9800GTX+ when started with UE4

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and 780GTX

fathom wadi
#

I was using a 970 to do VR dev work. Imagine that pain.

placid thistle
#

I hope 3060 will be affordable

fresh heath
#

I hope AMD will finally release something competitive

median wraith
#

Well I have seen the price, sure it cost more than the 970GTX cost me

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🤖

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@fathom wadi reason I stopped pushing graphics in order to make decent things

fathom wadi
#

it's cheaper to get a 3060 than buy a 1080ti 😮

median wraith
#

by the way, sorry beforehand but making some horror crap

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😂 🤖

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well all what I do is a real horror lmao

fresh heath
median wraith
#

lmao

#

the fun fact

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my 9800GTX+ were from that year I think

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and ran even UE4 and new games

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I even pasted some components once as it fall with the years

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and ran

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😂

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the best GPU I ever had

placid thistle
#

3060 isn't even announce yet 😛

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3070 is $500 from Nvidia, not available either (and the rumor has it won't be available until later 2021)

fathom wadi
#

ahh I get confused cuz I can't afford any of them right now so my mind is pretending they are cheap :p

median wraith
#

oh where the 3070 then one i saw then

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cost like 300€ more than what the 970 cost me lol

placid thistle
#

I was hoping to get 2060, but prices haven't gone down

median wraith
#

someone named to skip the 3xxx gen

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all came broken etc

fathom wadi
#

I spent £900 on my 1080ti. But it was so worth it. I wouldn't be too rushed to replace it just for RTX but my inner tech geek wants an upgrade.

median wraith
#

Nvidia should gift me the GPU at buy the new Watch Dogs

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rather than get the Watch Dogs for free

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🤖

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Well this works

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will do the architecture on it, as Blender is a pain for

fathom wadi
#

blender is amazing for architecture imo

median wraith
#

the time spent it way bigger

stable escarp
#

@fathom wadi 3060 has only 6gb of ram...it's...well...not optimal

fathom wadi
#

well I find it faster than 3dsmax and maya. Although if I were doing professional I would go for Revit

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@stable escarp ahh yeah thats gonna be an issue

median wraith
#

the 1060 have 6gb too ?

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I target for 512mb of VRam

stable escarp
#

1080ti has 11gb...

median wraith
#

🤖

stable escarp
#

that was the GPU in the question

fathom wadi
#

I follow a couple of the old Ocean guys who used to do magic. One of them is a graphics programmer and some of the things he did were brilliant.
Now you get people making games from the FPS Shooter kit 😄

median wraith
#

Well at least you got the good news that I'm masochist so I did even the settings system myself

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Just took 3 years without income lmao

#

hard to find devs this days that edited the engine

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other than the devs with own engines

#

ala Frictional etc

fathom wadi
#

well I do it, but it's not like I want to. I just end up having to because I come up with ideas that haven't been done before 😄

median wraith
#

Now you named the 2060 and money

#

just remember I have to write a tweet about a thing

#

finally

#

found the way to add a new viewport

#

I don't get why UE4 don't have something like this by this point

fathom wadi
#

yeah the way you can layout Blender is so cool

median wraith
#

that isn't blender

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🤔

median wraith
#

😂

#

the hybrids of COD, I think they still use that

fathom wadi
#

@median wraith yeah but I still love the way you can layout Blender. UE4 should have something similar 😄

zinc matrix
#

man animation is hard

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just rigging is hard lol

fathom wadi
#

@zinc matrix Yep. it's all rigged too including 2d facial animation setup

#

its got some NPR issues that I need to spend some time on. See the shoulder? It's not great at defining torus outlines so you need to do some post process unless I can fix the issue. I spent a load of time on it already so I moved on but I keep meaning to come back so I can sell it. Not until it's perfect though.

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this pic is from an earlier version actually. I have another file where I increased the geometry on the body to get rid of the edges on the trim. I also increased the geom on the torus part so it looked a little better at more angles

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circles aint so bad because you can Mark Edge. You can do it on a Torus but it doesn't make sense at some angles and messes with the rest of it. The best way I've found so far is increasing the geom to compensate so no edges get masked by the visibility channel

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me too. All I know from it is from fiddling with settings for a good couple of weeks

median wraith
#

@placid thistle it tech3 had something like normal maps?

fresh heath
#

idTech 3 didn't have normal maps

fresh heath
#

I hope the PSP versions of Devil Summoner and Persona 2: Eternal Punishment will be translated someday as well

median wraith
#

@fresh heath have only speculars?

fresh heath
#

If I remember correctly, it only had diffuse textures

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Speculars appeared only in idTech 4

median wraith
#

Mmm

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But there are parts that react to light 🤔

placid thistle
#

@median wraith deluxe maps

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So, yeah, it could have normal maps

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Not realtime though

gray vortex
#

anyone here use auto rig pro on blender?

zinc matrix
#

nah

gray vortex
#

its quite annoying

#

keeps crashing on me

zinc matrix
#

finally rigged my character and when i move it my character goes through his clothes :I

gray vortex
#

dont your clothes also need skeleton?

zinc matrix
#

man idek

gray vortex
#

an old pack i have has the clothing rigged

zinc matrix
#

i like joined the clothes to the character i thought that would fix it

fathom wadi
#

Congratulations to Denuvo for this one. It was good whilst it lasted.

#

I bet the next iteration of Denuvo is gonna be rock solid. Good times.

fresh heath
#

@placid thistle Deluxe mapping was only added in later opensource forks, no?

placid thistle
#

no @fresh heath

#

it's actually not engine's feature - it's q3map2's feature

#

(map compiling util)

fresh heath
#

I see

#

Somehow my test level ended up having 4 sky spheres 🤔

#

I don't remember adding so many

zinc matrix
#

wtf is this bs

#

rigify error: cannot connect chain bone position is disjoint

placid thistle
#

I recommend to try Akeytsu for character animation

#

I like Blender, just not for rigging/animation

plucky pagoda
#

@fathom wadi If it makes it 60 days that's a gift. 352 is insane and way beyond what I bet anyone expected.

fathom wadi
#

yeah. Mortal Kombat 11 has over 500 days so far too

plucky pagoda
#

wow

swift flame
#

Anyone know if there are any level design qol plugins for unreal 4?

#

like for example, features such as "paste at cursor"

thin storm
#

@swift flame there is a plugin called "LEVEL DESIGN ASSISTANT" which was free for some time. maybe that?

#

I never tried it though

turbid willow
#

Why are there no game jams happening 😩

north torrent
#

Is anyone here eating tacos right now?

cursive crypt
#

Nope, some banana shake instead.

north torrent
#

I have never put a banana in my juicer.

fathom wadi
#

It's not called a Banana Shake anymore. It's called a "Toobin"

north torrent
#

I made guava juice this morning.

fathom wadi
#

I hope he was happy about it

cursive crypt
#

Toobin? Wtf is that? A show reference? out of the loop.

north torrent
#

C++

cursive crypt
#

lol, ye

north torrent
#

How many lobsters do you think it would take to power an RTX 3090?

foggy path
#

depends on if you had them in little lobster bicycles powering a generator or if you ground them into lobster oil powering a generator

cursive crypt
#

I dunno about lobsters, but you may use instead like 2 mil lemons. Which also appear to be like 200 metric cubes of lemons? If you are ready to invest in that project, let me know.

median wraith
#

how you guys work with UE4 and Blender scales for animations ?

median wraith
#

found a way that will test later

mossy nexus
#

Why won't the way test now? Is it lazy, busy?? We need to know!

median wraith
#

actually there I scaled Blender but now gives problems

#

2.8 used to work

#

will try to follow other way

#

I will try the post import someone named

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to rescale inside UE4

#

scaling things inside Blender is a mess

#

kinda absurd that's 2020 and still with this issue

fresh heath
#

I didn't have any problems with the scale since I started to always set it to 0.01 before doing anything else

#

For either import or export

median wraith
#

well when you set 0.01 you get other kind of problems inside Blender tbh

#

Bakers etc

placid thistle
#

scaling why @median wraith ?!

#

just set your Blender units to metric centimeters and 0.01

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exports 1:1 into UE4

pearl pewter
#

Made this at school today

rugged storm
turbid willow
#

A banana shake does sound good

dapper plover
#

Do you all think most gamers will like vehicles with shifter controls (like have to shift to reverse to reverse) or should I stick to arcade controls where back does reverse?

#

I could also make it a player or server-side option for "realism mode" lol

foggy path
#

the question is mostly does it offer anything of value to your game

#

for example, would a separate reverse gear button do anything useful in PUBG or Halo? not really

#

But if the main point of your game is to drive vehicles.. then it could make sense

median wraith
#

@placid thistle if you do that on Blender bakers and other tools end working

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or you reach limits at numbers

#

The fact is

#

They named that UE4 uses by default in 2.8 the metric system

#

but you still have to convert the sizes

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😂

#

And basically is as is

#

makes 0 sense at this point tbh

placid thistle
#

I am not baking anything in Blender

#

modeling, rigging, animation, texturing works 100% with those settings

#

Ideally, it should be 1.0 by default and FBX exporter should apply 0.01 scale, but hard headed Blender devs DGAF

#

especially the guy responsible for FBX exporter

#

but, fret not! There is glTF 2.0 format

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I haven't tried it yet, but there is 100% functional import plugin for UE4

fresh heath
#

I tried Unreal's glTF import last summer when I was experimenting with VRoid Studio, it didn't work for me very well

#

At least for skeletal meshes

placid thistle
unborn lotus
fathom wadi
#

the fudge? If a Larian game isn't enough D&D for you? It's set in a D&D location, with D&D rules, by a company that probably does the best D&D style games.

#

Sorry Obsidian

#

your time is up 😄

unborn lotus
#

uh no, because they're not DnD. Dnd style sure, but I need my d20 rulesets

fringe sundial
#

not DnD, but if you want a similar game, PAthfinder kingmaker is absolutely godlike

#

its pathfinder rules, but pathfinder was forked from D&D3.5, so it fits anyway

unborn lotus
#

yes! it was really good

fringe sundial
#

its betetr than baldurs gate 3 atm

#

a lot better

#

it has about 7 times more content

#

and its combat is better because it has more characters with more classes

fathom wadi
#

Wait... they remade Baldur's gate and never used D&D rules? That's not a remake then. It's a different game.

#

It's like saying "We are remaking Street Fighter 2" then using turn based combat.

fathom wadi
#

Holy moly

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I was pimping a remake of this for years. Almost started it myself

foggy path
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Played thru the Blade Runner game a while back

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it was pretty good

serene nymph
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i am creating (starting) an asylum (unlike an insane one, if you would) alternative to this server, don't expect it to be loaded with members from start, but it is there with more moderation in regards to action, given an aggro style of "warning" is nedded in a milti-international community, with money and time/ (blood, sweat, tears, etc.) involved

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look in 2 minutes at the note in my tag

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Done

foggy path
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That note is private and only visible to yourself

serene nymph
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the military?

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hmm, i see aggro moderation is already being rippeed lol

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also, RIP'd

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expries 24 hours from now and no limit on uses

minor remnant
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hey chief no offense but ain't that a direct violation of rule 6

serene nymph
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i have been using unreal since UT' 99 and since there is just so much to discuss before Unreal Slcackers ptomotion, why not join to sort out specific fucntions with a little more breathing room, in cheeky humor and relaxtion "get this rage off my chest" stuff

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see?

minor remnant
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just wanna make sure you ain't getting any trouble

serene nymph
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this is why

minor remnant
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truly an unfortunate event

serene nymph
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i see "bending rules" as part of human evolution, not as being rebellious or disrespectful

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bah i can make it good without all the ffluff in here, it's called google, this is Unreal Kindergarten sometimes

minor remnant
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alright cool so when are you actually leaving then kappaross

serene nymph
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c;'mon nobody like s a tattle tale, well as soon as pokis pilot gets nme banned

tall plume
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yeah bud, no discord links

serene nymph
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ok but why that's a monpoly

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monopoly

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you say bud but tread right on me, wow

minor remnant
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i mean if you stand in the middle of the road with a sign going "run me over" you will get tread on

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usually happens that way

serene nymph
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this is the information usper highway, get real or get a life plz

minor remnant
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you seem perturbed friend

serene nymph
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exactly why 1: i'm not crazy and 2: you could go crazy if sunjugated with these know it all cops wanna-be's

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sub

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i'm experimental, not perturbed, maybe understand Pych past 103?

minor remnant
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back to the drawing board with that experiment then i guess

serene nymph
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you just like you know how to spell 'preturned' huh?

fresh heath
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🤔

minor remnant
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here you go son

serene nymph
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pff i'd pwn you in a debate

minor remnant
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feel free

serene nymph
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i can Sarah Palin all i want man, besides COVID lockdown i'm free as Miley cyrus in a bagerzz partty

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bocked

minor remnant
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i think you'll need to translate to that to conventional english for me i don't speak your precise dialect

serene nymph
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wow, harassment 101 meets "what it's an opinion, same as his, just mine is more important'

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it;s called American, should try it, but mine is a franchise alternative

minor remnant
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tfw bocked :( oh well back to my mom's basement

serene nymph
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i know, she misses u

minor remnant
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tfw unbocked :)

serene nymph
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she's been waiting there in secre3cey from dad all day, ddayum

minor remnant
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thanks for unbocking me man i missed you

foggy path
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I'm not sure if all that alcohol is good for you 🤔

serene nymph
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pff 2 beers and i know people devoured by Unreal comunity's admins and mods, they are like every other creature, under pressure, only care about theirmselve,s or in a communissm-state like environ, the team

foggy path
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lol

serene nymph
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there are no real saints opr angels here bruh

foggy path
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my dad drank himself to the grave but I guess it's your life

serene nymph
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nobody here is Bill Gatesgiving their profits to the needy, it goes towards their garage or estate

minor remnant
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honestly i have no idea what you're on about right now i think you'll need to clear this up for me

serene nymph
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yet you feel the need to chime in about how you have no idea who i am, jusst that you're cool and everybody should join your persoanl bandwagon?

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Plz stop

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don't like you, regret this already

minor remnant
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i mean i do really have no idea who you are, and i just asked you to clarify what you're saying because i am genuinely confused

serene nymph
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ok

minor remnant
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ooh what'cha working on?

foggy path
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ponkkis post some of those wonderful jank screenshots

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:D

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sure :D

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damn

minor remnant
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no jank for me i guess lol

serene nymph
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ponkis? why do you worship the same systems that can d** you over in a heart-beat due to w/e temptation in their mind at any monet?

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momnet*

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moment*

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i honestly love unreal because of workflow form 3d/2d exports - to importing and iomplement, but need a team these days (my own opinion) because i spend time researchng and modeling onoly some ides, not the whole cake myself

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but i see from same research, unreal is unlikely to fall through the proverbil cracks due to its reputation and usefullness

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so, i'm different

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10 years later

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all of it imo

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nothing is what it seems, i leqrne dthat, happy to share

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here today gone tomorrow ring a bell?

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speaking of 10 years later

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investment in a stock for ex. should be monitored wwith an 'ear to the ground' because "Mepires that rise, will somday fall"

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3 parts of a brain, cotrolling the mind+ actions, which part wins? it's almost always different

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id ego super-ego

minor remnant
serene nymph
foggy path
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🤔

serene nymph
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super-insano .gifs Vs. Reality... Reality wins again

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or like, live a real life after you break out of that bubblee you're in

minor remnant
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i am so fucking confused on what you're trying to say man

broken sigil
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jesus you are delusional

serene nymph
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all 3 blocked "Aahahaha feeble noobs, your attempts at tarnighing this convo will only affect UUUUU ajahahahahahah

foggy path
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you might wanna sober up and try again :D

broken sigil
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nice lol

minor remnant
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i am so confused

broken sigil
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trust me I am too

serene nymph
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privliged suburban clowns meet real dirty person that dig their way out by hand and took 10,000 showers

minor remnant
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is this guy like this all the time or

broken sigil
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yep

serene nymph
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no i'm not close to drunk

minor remnant
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oh joy

serene nymph
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i'm just so tired of typing and have nothing useful to actually speak you you guys in this manner, = i typo like wild and don't mind it

minor remnant
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talk about a slippery slope lol

serene nymph
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#WillCheckBlockedMessagesForDevaincy

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#someday

minor remnant
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don't overuse that pound sign, grandpa

broken sigil
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I'm pretty sure he is like 10, he joined the other day to defend his friend who got banned so that tells you everything

minor remnant
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either he's 12 or he's an hardcore alcoholic

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honestly no idea which

broken sigil
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lol

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well... moving on

minor remnant
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yeah let's move on lol

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so what's new with you lot

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i used to be on here a long while ago but left since i stopped developing for like 9 months or so

serene nymph
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not to defend, as you know once banned from unreal slackers they lock you into an internet time-warp prison you cannot escape from

broken sigil
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i used to be on here a long while ago but left since i stopped developing for like 9 months or so
sleep, gaming, work, repeat
Haven't seen a light of day in like 2 months
Going to sleep at 10am - 6pm, basically waking up right as the sun sets
Hard to fix a broken sleep schedule

serene nymph
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Begin

minor remnant
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Haven't seen a light of day in like 2 months
damn man, you should find some self-care time if possible

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thought i was doing badly a while ago but damn, not that bad

serene nymph
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bah it seems like 'm drowning,thisis self-heelp, "i've seen the good side of bad, the down-side of up, and everythng in-betwween

minor remnant
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friend you still seem very perturbed, you really should take a break :P

serene nymph
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hmm, i absorb pain and turn into + motivation

minor remnant
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sounds good, when does the doing start

serene nymph
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i sometimes wake-up no in a so artistic mood

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"things are not always as they seem" lil Padawan

minor remnant
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lil what now

serene nymph
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Padawan, likee a native american pupil, geez

minor remnant
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never heard of em

serene nymph
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ok

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see, each culture has their fablesd, then, oddly enough, America has been the refuge' of so many, from everywhere, for so long,, there's tons of variety

foggy path
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Isn't padawan a star wars thing

serene nymph
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no thin Pcahontas

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Poc

foggy path
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No I'm pretty sure it's star wars... you can check google :D

serene nymph
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i forget exactly, i have a cinematograhpic memory, but as i get older the images and scenes fade and the words and theme are the anchor

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but its Origina

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Orign

granite plover
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Hey can someone helper me?

foggy path
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sure you're not thinking of papoose? that's "native american child"

serene nymph
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Rly you're gonnaa argue "padawan" is not Native American, and came from Lucas?

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no Padawan

foggy path
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I mean I googled it and that's what it says :P

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

granite plover
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ples

serene nymph
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they're rowing in a river, and the Chief says, "don;'t worry, young Padawn, you'll get it"

foggy path
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@granite plover what's the problem?

granite plover
serene nymph
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yeah cuz the interwebs is more right than a 100% actual fact that is retained, like a wiki with admin abuse, youguys are

granite plover
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What does this mean?

foggy path
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No idea :\

granite plover
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Feck

serene nymph
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the value is important, if you can hunt the value, that is the key, neo

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retured 2

granite plover
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I just want to play unreal pt

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the value is important, if you can hunt the value, that is the key, neo
@serene nymph
I have no idea what you just said

minor remnant
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you're not alone lol

serene nymph
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returned 2, if you'rre a coder, find the engine's return value of 2, that is your issue

granite plover
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Oh

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Im sadly not a coder

serene nymph
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me neither but did a good absororption of intro to OOP and many meetings with a programmer while deviing a Total Conversion mod

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see how i type, that's why i don't code

granite plover
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Maybe the guys at Microsoft discord may help

serene nymph
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i bee the Ubisoft of indie games

granite plover
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Im too dump to coder

serene nymph
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if i coded

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i have 10-thumbs and a p!ssy attitude towards negativity

minor remnant
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how does one develop video games without coding abilities

granite plover
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You wouldn't have to join an anti terrorist group too

minor remnant
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or are you the patented "ideas guy"

serene nymph
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no i have 2 decades in hard-surface modeling/ skinnand also a thorough mapper, except the editor keeps chaging ever 2 weeks

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@loco i am semi-drunk by now

minor remnant
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so you're a 3D modeler, not a game developer 🤔

serene nymph
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sorry @foggy path

foggy path
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lol

serene nymph
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what part of 3d modelling isn't factored into mapping + 3d modeling, exactly, unless sprite-based with intro+ morre into code?

minor remnant
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well meshes will be meshes, but without code, game doesn't exist :P

serene nymph
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pff the engine reders them rgardless of what you say, i am quoted as saying "[in my case] you need a team, these days, it seems"

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you're not REEEQADIIINGG

minor remnant
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well that engine runs on some form of code :P

serene nymph
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derp1 ok i agree

minor remnant
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and game logic doesn't appear out of nowhere

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and you don't really need a team

serene nymph
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derp2 i didnnt do it

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do it all yourtself and die at 45 ok then fine

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make sure to guzzle red bull tooo 😉

minor remnant
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actually i'm more of a coffee guy myself

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not a fan of the 'ol lion's piss

serene nymph
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l;isten einstein that's still a drug and even if better at 'games dev than me' i like to share the wealth, ok son?

minor remnant
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what wealth if i may ask

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could start off with a coherent sentence at least

serene nymph
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BECAUSE MY GAME SHALT HATH ALL PROFTS IN MY BANK ACCT. RAWR

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no?

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you dev games but have no wealth, you're a wannna be i just am who i am and you don't like that, do you o.0?

minor remnant
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honestly i still have no idea who you are lol