I also eat food
#lounge
carmine frigate
jagged owl
Hey guys, new here, just wanted to introduce myself 🙂
plucky pagoda
Good food is a big help these days
lone grail
Mmm yes sustenance
fathom wadi
is there such a thing?
I mean, I know there is, but its expensive as hell
Feel like im eating a genetically modified buffet myself. Aside from the science that says some GM methods induce problems with gut bacteria, it's like the crap food gets cheaper whilst the organic gets more expensive. But without the option, you are forced to eat the crap. It's astounding. Before GM crops were widespread, we could choose to eat organic and it was a bit cheaper for most things because it wasn't as popular. Now it's like the gold standard for food, it's in the domain of those who can afford to get it. True story. GM foods are banned from the UK Parliament. But they voted to dump loads of the shit on the public for money.
And dont get me started on what they do in India.
mossy nexus
stylised giant leaf grass, obviously
alpine fern
I don't get it. why can't you just scale down the grass yourself if you want to use a different character than they did?
quiet narwhal
make sure to leave feedback so other people know, super weird its not to the mannequin scale. Its like buying an animation pack that doesnt target the ue4 skeleton
"1000 awesome animations, you just need to rig them to your character"
alpine fern
what pack is it anyway
quiet narwhal
its like the app store, different people miss different things 😦
aww 😦
considering its stylized maybe they could get away with this I guess
fathom wadi
"1000 awesome animations, you just need to rig them to your character"
@quiet narwhal Easy mode now. https://zhan-xu.github.io/rig-net/
I'd be more pissed as someone who doesn't buy much with my own money from the marketplace. Because if I do, it's to save time I don't have. Literally in some cases with timelines. That being said, you do kinda expect things to just work. Perhaps its an awful trait of us, as customers, to be so entitled to working products with adequate descriptions. Dunno. I remember a time when it was kinda nuts with the hoops you went through for a marketplace sub
indeed
can't cover all edge cases, but with regards to any type of scaling issues, there should be some dynamicity to it in order to facilitate multiple uses
quiet narwhal
ughh python
plucky pagoda
The main issue is it's using pivot painting
somehow I've managed to never use python except for modifying a few wordpress plugins
fathom wadi
same but in context of blender and some ue4 stuff
the language reminds me I used to code in Actionscript 2.0
that being said, not knocking it's functionality. Holy moly its getting around these days. Backend of everything that talks to another app. Blender is pretty much made from it. UE has it for live data linking etc.
plucky pagoda
Yeah, it's everywhere. I am starting to use it some with Houdini.
quiet narwhal
@fathom wadi I checked that out, pretty neato and kinda cool how it works on non bipeds (a ton of pokemon models in the test video lol). About the only real sucky is it wont work for UE4 out of the box since you cant just tell it to match a predefined structure 😦
fathom wadi
Blender has a tab at the top you can see every python command going through. So you can modify things at the code level as you go. It's super useful I guess
plucky pagoda
Yeah, I usually have that console open on another monitor.
quiet narwhal
and I just meant "ugh python" since I don't know it lol
quiet narwhal
also isnt it a whitespace language?
fathom wadi
@quiet narwhal I guess it doesn't need to be though. Once you have the structure you can play with what it made, adjust, cleanup etc. I mean, its probably quicker to actually rig the model than set all this up but hey... its the future man 🙂
Might be that one day we wont need to rig anything. Just clean up
plucky pagoda
I might be using Blender for rigging again.
quiet narwhal
@fathom wadi oh I agree plus it does have a slider for density and its open source so with some work you can probably try and have it assign a set of bones anyways to match a skele
fathom wadi
cool I figured some static data could be factored in too
plucky pagoda
Houdini doesn't use joints the same way and it's harder to get the rotations just right for things like IK. I mean I know there's a way to do it but it seems much more involved than the autorig scripts I have for Blender.
You have to use a bunch of nulls and parent things to other things in Houdini
fathom wadi
@plucky pagoda Blender rigging is great, until you try use it in Unreal. The bones having a head and tail instead of just a tail always introduces something you have to fix.
plucky pagoda
Nah man, Autorig pro
it gives you a nearly perfect UE mannequin rig on export.
I love it.
fathom wadi
Blender gives you a nearly perfect one. Its just linked bones like collarbone can end up shortened
you can adjust your rig to suit that but I find it offputting
plucky pagoda
The maker of it is really cool too. I emailed with them a bit and got good responses to everything.
He's constantly pushing updates to it too.
quiet narwhal
that looks nice
plucky pagoda
I'm a very critical reviewer. It it very nice. The skinning algorithms are crazy good.
fathom wadi
I remember it from a while back but I didn't use it. I went with Mr Mannequin instead. Not the best move but it's great. I just prefer manual rigging I guess. It's like a zen process to me.
Still can't get into Rigify. It feels like you are rigging with a crackhead in charge
plucky pagoda
I use to. But I'm lazy and always have something I'd rather get to. It's like rigging is just a thing in the way to getting to something else.
fathom wadi
aye
I have to enjoy the little moments sometimes 🙂
Perversely, I actually got really into doing manual UV work as I model stuff. Always hated that, always used auto-uv tools. Now it's like... why bother? Just do it as you go and make it better.
plucky pagoda
I understand now, you're a masochist.
That's the only way you could enjoy Rigging and UV work.
fathom wadi
I really like that feather rigging part of auto-rig. I mean, just to save the time adjusting the rotation would be nice
heh. Perhaps I just avoided it so often, and im bored with regular stuff, its nice to step out of my box and get into something
plucky pagoda
I'm about to update blender and install it. I need to rerig that mud/gum thing anyway. It's rig is borked.
I've never used the remapper that comes with it but it looks nice too.,
fathom wadi
Convinced my wife to download it the other night. She uses Windows Movie Maker to create videos and doesn't like Premiere. Gave her a tutorial video and set her free. Day later, entire video made. No complaints.
plucky pagoda
Yeah, I'm glad you guys started talking about Blender. I hadn't used that Auto-rig a while. It's nice to use it.
fathom wadi
I never shut up about Blender since I learned how to use it. It's one magnificent toy.
plucky pagoda
Hey, do you know how I set the rotation of a bone head?
@fathom wadi I want this to have an axis vertical.
I keep thinking, I've got it right then it's wrong in UE
fathom wadi
i guess its right as it would have been world aligned right? But Im sure there is a way to modify and save the rotation in editor. If not, then it would be available in the control rig and you wouldn't really have to change it. Is it giving you any trouble in animations or posing?
not got editor open to look and tbh. not had to rotate a bone in a while
control rig kinda negates all that fuss
plucky pagoda
It's with the rigging in blender.
I want the rotation of the joint to be zeroed with an axis up and down.
I don't have the right terms. It makes Ik easier.
fathom wadi
Transform Bone node you mean?
plucky pagoda
maybe
I'll have to look at it in a bit after making food for the kids. I keep trying to set the roll and something's changing it again. It might be auto-rig or someting.
pliant urchin
Anyone here familiar with AWS who I can ask a few questions?
light spruce
Apparently cops are getting bored around here since what might have been a minor traffic collision now warrants a three-car response.
fathom wadi
https://www.matthewball.vc/all/epicprimer6 //worth a read.
rugged storm
rich quiver
fluid bloom
what am I looking at?
light spruce
#noamountofalcohol
plucky pagoda
This is what I was looking for earlier.
@fathom wadi Yeah, I'll see how this works with control rig later. This IK setup is not good enough for what I want to happen.
Idk, I've gone back and looked over projects from up to 2 years ago and the IK worked perfectly in them but in this one the same setup is borked.
mental radish
having a slight problem if anyone can help, iam a noob and i did something cause now i cant see any terrain i put down...
median wraith
A well know video games website just posted an article about how to play among us for free on pc hacking it
And the people says that isn't okay
And their writers are insulting the people on twitter
Nice
mint shore
they're advocating piracy?
median wraith
They claim using an emulator is perfect fine because ads are displayed on pc lol
mint shore
an emulator of what? i'm not quite following
median wraith
The whole article is about how to hack a among us from Google play store for android game to be played on windows with an emulator
That way you don't pay the game on pc that's 3 foking euros
mint shore
ah and its f2p on android?
i wasnt even aware it had a mobile version but makes sense now
median wraith
Correct
mint shore
yeah its questionable to report on or even advocate for this. and well, insulting critics is just par for the course at this point :P
on another note, my packaged build (shipped or development) has limited frames when not in focus, and i cant figure out why. i havent seen that behavior before. any clue on why that is or what flag controls that behavior?
median wraith
Yeah I think is hard to insult a gamedev, but they successfully managed to insult the creator and the community 😂
There is a bool in the config to disable one of these things
But don't remember the name, search these
On Google
mint shore
i had no success googling for that issue so far. not even sure i'm searching for the right terms
plucky pagoda
There might be something under settings for don't move to background when not focused or something. It's intentional .
mint shore
yeah i know the editor flag. i havent actually tried switching that and test in builds. i rather appreciate the editor limiting fps when in the background
mint shore
i'm stumped. this seems to me like a fairly obvious configuration, but i dont find any results or even a lot of questions regarding this. makes me wonder whether i'm overlooking something. and like i mentioned, i havent experienced that behavior before with previous projects either
fresh heath
carmine frigate
hmm i tried the send to unreal en ue to rigify plugins, is it just me or are they trying to fix non existing problems?
the send to unreal button is kinda dope, but only works for static meshes for me, if i send a skel mesh and a normal mesh the skel ends up 1000 times to small
while default scale settings in blender are perfect
carmine frigate
but default blender exports both just fine
dont worry, i wont 🙂
also it sometimes deletes the animation in blender on export
ofc its broken on the other side so ur left with nothing 🙂
i only done a few tests so far, but default settings it has some odd behaviour
ill just keep using the reimport button i guess its not much of a hassle
by wiki u mean the github page
mayB i also just got the most recent version
havent tried others
or you work with diffrent scale settings
also i often change stuff in the export fbx settings so i dont like that hidden under the plugin prefs
i use metric 1 scale cms
it creates clicks while removing other clicks
stuff still has to be clicked
yea it was allright
the export diffrent scales on skels and normal meshes is really odd
still need to try the rigify stuff, but i never really use rigify
zinc matrix
tulip orbit
lone grail
Heh
thin glacier
fathom wadi
Theres a job going for a Rigger/Animator at Massive. Bear in mind, they don't care if you leave bugs in the game as long as the season pass sells.
lone grail
I'm good at rigging but shite at animating for now lol
fathom wadi
Just cheat and use a neural AI to dump out some generics. They won't know. Their QA is fkin blind anyway
cursive crypt
What games they do? 🤔
fathom wadi
The Division and the upcoming Avatar game
cursive crypt
Aah... The Division has pretty good QA
fathom wadi
Yeah TD2 didn't.
cursive crypt
Uh... Didnt knew, lol. 1st part was like really well tested out. Mechanic & design decisions were other story tho.
fathom wadi
The last straw for me was they released Warlords of New York, which was a seperate island so not open world really. Then they introduced a bug where if you had a shield and a drone/etc, and you switched between them, you got a super powerful bullet loaded into your weapon that could one shot bosses. The thing is, the AI also had this bug more often under different circumstances. So people went around abusing it for a while. Then Massive banned them. Dick move especially when it was their bug, their AI was using it and technically, some people got banned for using it unintentionally due to the nature of it.
All the time they are shoving a new, pointless, season pass down our necks and saying "you pay £10 for 3 months from now on". Fuck those jerks.
cursive crypt
Some story... Not fan of their financial approach too.
But that ain't Ubisoft decision btw?
fathom wadi
Im just bitter because I was completely invested in that game, and not only did I put up with the strife of TD1 rebuilding the game a couple of times to make it playable, but during TD2, the dev team did the exact same thing. Like it's now a business model to keep an early GaaS alive or some shit. It's anti-consumer.
They still made a cracking game with TD1 and TD2 overall, but disdain for the consumer really kills my interest in a game.
Same thing with Destiny 2.
cursive crypt
Well, uhm... can't say for much more games. Afte TD1 I just played FarCry5 and that's it for this year. Ah, yeah and Conan, crazy buggy.
zinc matrix
When I click Activate clothing paint it says I don't have any clothing simulation assets can anyone help
fathom wadi
@cursive crypt my wife still plays Farcry 5. More than that, she writes fan fiction for it, learned to hack assets in the engine so she could find storylines that had been ripped and much more. She's probably the game's biggest fan and it's not an understatement.
cursive crypt
Whoa! My respects you can forward then. She may upload some mods if willing. It is a good game, yeah.
fathom wadi
I played it for a zone. It was really well done. But if you don't get invested in the characters, its the same old same.
That being said, if you are invested in the chars, they are deep and well produced, and in most cases well acted.
cursive crypt
I think the animation done is really, really good there. Characters are involving, gameplay is fun, with all these vehicles.
carmine frigate
FC5 was pretty good,. altho its just too much runner missions
openworld collectible shit
cursive crypt
Never did these. Tried to avoid completionism.
carmine frigate
it had an editor aswell i believe
yea those games should have a non completionism mode and just cut 90% of the crap
cursive crypt
Yea, it can be an option, lol. Also the ending was kinda controversial I remember.
carmine frigate
i like the max payne 3 setup more
fathom wadi
At the start of the game, if you refuse to take Jacob Seed into custody, the game ends.
carmine frigate
1 path to walk, but its consistently good
cursive crypt
Oh, now I remember bad design there. Can't skip scenes.
fathom wadi
what is truly scary, is my wife has a photographic memory. So she knows every line of every cutscene.
what is horrible about that is I can never lie if I wanted to.
fathom wadi
New Dawn? She liked that too
I was dubious because she likes the original so much. But yeah. litmus test
carmine frigate
dunno it was in afrika and stuff
fathom wadi
new dawn wasnt
carmine frigate
with the diamond collecting
fathom wadi
yeah you mean Micro Machines. the racing game
carmine frigate
pc gamer for life 😛
fathom wadi
what if you hack the government and get banned for 10 years like Acid Burn?
carmine frigate
ill make a new account 😛
carmine frigate
prolly some chem plant dumpin bleach around there 😛
its like that time all bees in a 5km area around an m&m factory started making diffrent colors honey, thats newsworthy
if everything dies in that radius no1 cares 😛
solid aurora
well
I should way for Radeon reveal
but buying 3090 is so temping after RayTracing perforamnce -;-
fresh heath
3090 is pretty expensive
Especially if your wage is in Russian roubles
The exchange rates are killing me
Of course the government keeps finding new ways to make it worse
spark sequoia
Z-fighting? Don’t you mean EXCITED WALLS?
tulip orbit
fresh heath
Though with their insistence on logging into Facebook I wouldn't buy anything from them anyway
carmine frigate
somehow i dont like the idea of a lipo battery strapped to my face 😛
im sure its plenty safe tho, bet there are enough ppl that try make it blow up to sue for damages 😛
fresh heath
This scene reminds me of Tokyo Conception in Shin Megami Tensei III: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0v3WeHkkp8
Nolan keeps stealing from Japanese artists 😄
carmine frigate
it all started with cave paintings
if i could model a city id have no problems bending it 😛
carmine frigate
guess thats the problem, i allways delete those and add a sphere
fresh heath
soft night
PlayStation is the new valve
plucky pagoda
figured out the IK issue I was having. Now to figure out how to fix it. It's a scaling issue with the model. I'm not sure where it's happening though. Going to have to apply scale before rigging, rig it again and see what happens. If I scale the effector offset by 100 it gets close to where it is supposed to be.
If I import the SK mesh with a uniform scale other than 1 it breaks the IK, exporting from Blender with the scale applied breaks it,
fresh heath
Ugh, scale issues
plucky pagoda
Yeah, probably got Fubar'd somewhere along the way. It should only take minute to clean up though.
plucky pagoda
Ahhhh... Fixed.
plucky pagoda
Just needs a little offseting now.
Nah, went to the base mesh, scaled it all, applied it all, then re-did the rig from scratch.
carmine frigate
did u make some good use of the blender starter cube there ?
plucky pagoda
Nah that's from Houdini
plucky pagoda
But yeah, just a bunch of extrudes, subdivide to a ridiculous amount, and normals.
It's made to work with a post and some distortion materials that aren't in that scene.
plucky pagoda
Yeah, I'm glad Jan shared that material. It took all of maybe ten minutes to convert his project to work with an SK mesh and character velocity.
It's so much easier to work with things when the people making them know what they're doing.
median wraith
Oh boxman time without see you
plucky pagoda
Nah, there's a ton of little things that makes everything easier that people winging it always f'up
carmine frigate
its too flat chested and not enough curves for insta
they are just skilled wingers
plucky pagoda
Blasphemy, knell before your cube overlords.
Oh man, finally. It's working perfectly in the game levels now. I can't believe it took me like four hours to realize it was a scaling issue.
That's really just a placeholder model to help me get a fast workflow down for this project.
still vault
@merry flame https://www.cgtrader.com/free-3d-models/animals/mammal/animated-bat-5b8add2a5d98b1a652ea7fd72d942dac 🙂
plucky pagoda
Now to add an offset that changes based on the normal of the hit.
merry flame
Ta, will check
plucky pagoda
I wonder if adding the offset value as a curve to the animations would yield something that looks more refined?
combined with an alpha curve.
median wraith
Aragorn is here
plucky pagoda
@zinc matrix I haven't really looked at als.
I think I have it. It was free at some point?
I bought a parkour pack of animations, they look good but aren't really setup well for working with game logic.
right now just using the ones that came with the ThirdPerson starter content.
carmine frigate
yea i dunno what to think of ALS
plucky pagoda
I posted the IK setup that is using for free. It's pretty basic. Stuff I made like two years ago after following some tutorials, I just moved it to a component.
carmine frigate
the char is rotated by 90 for some reason
plucky pagoda
idk, a lot of the things like that I've looked at over complicate everything
plucky pagoda
Too many interlinked states and a bunch of crisscrossing transitions.
It should be simple and easy to look at an animation BP to understand what is going on.
carmine frigate
nah anim bps can grow quite large
plucky pagoda
Large doesn't mean it can't still be simple and easy to follow.
carmine frigate
with a lot of math
carmine frigate
yea, from your perspective
but so is als
its easy to deciper when u know what does what
carmine frigate
i dunno about that1
plucky pagoda
You can look at that and see that everything is in 6 states and know what order they are applied in.
plucky pagoda
carmine frigate
and thats a state machine 😛
carmine frigate
its super nested tho
carmine frigate
well my biggest anim bp runs completely on controllrig, and CR is experimental and broken AF 😛
plucky pagoda
I haven't used it much yet. Hope to soon.
plucky pagoda
Just for completeness this is the main anim graph for that stuff, it's old though and rough.
plucky pagoda
plucky pagoda
You're setting locations with effectors for everything?
carmine frigate
yup
carmine frigate
but i cant feed it transforms so i added a whole lot of dummy virtual bones to transform those
plucky pagoda
I haven't used virtual bones at all. I have no idea what they do or how to use them
carmine frigate
kinda messes it all up, if it wasnt for that u could use this for any humanoid skel
they are basically bones u can add in engine
w/o weights
plucky pagoda
Like for use as effectors? Basically sockets you can keyframe?
carmine frigate
so u could add 1 to the pelvis and let it point forward, do a linetrace for ur ik from there
yea they are kinda like sockets
plucky pagoda
Ok, but you can do that with a socket. What do virtual bones give you that those don't have?
carmine frigate
u cant transform sockets in anim bp?
plucky pagoda
I see. Reading the doc.
carmine frigate
bones can stil simulate
plucky pagoda
Idk, I can't find a good overview of what they are good for.
carmine frigate
i think its mostly a way to add bones w/o goin to dcc
plucky pagoda
yeah, maybe. I likely don't really have a use for it then.
plucky pagoda
Doesn't that make it a pain to retarget to anything else?
carmine frigate
yea kinda but also not
they decompile and give error VB is missing
you readd em and done
plucky pagoda
I guess that's easier than all the market assets that add a bunch of custom bones for no reason
carmine frigate
bones for no reason is not good
VBs are just a thing u can use or can leave i guess 🙂
plucky pagoda
Seems that way.
lone grail
I used to download free models from the internet just to prototype with, after lots of headaches I make all my own with my own rig, rigging is super easy once you get used to it so no use using other peoples in my opinion
The model might look like shite but the rig works lol
carmine frigate
I usually just use one of the paragon rigs
plucky pagoda
I just load them in Blender, delete the bones and add a new skeleton with a script. Auto-rig pro exports a nearly perfect mannequin rig.
the way I use maximo is I download everything to the xbot model and have a project with just it, animations, and a mannequin. I retarget to the UE man and migrate what I need.
lone grail
I never used auto rig but I have used rigify and I don't like it, I like making my own IK and FK constraints
I downloaded a model with a root bone before, who knew that root bone would have 4 other bones overlapping and it severely messed up and took a while to figure out why
plucky pagoda
Auto-rig gives you an ik rig like this by default but you can customize it
It's from before Adobe bought them and it went into their pocket dimension of purgatory.
lone grail
The mixamo rig never worked with IK whenever I tried to add the constraints so I stopped using them
I still own Fuse on steam before it renamed to Mixamo
plucky pagoda
Adobe more or less bought them to kill a future competitor.
lone grail
What was their competitor?
carmine frigate
fuse 😛
plucky pagoda
They hobbled it, removed a bunch of the good stuff and put it into limbo.
carmine frigate
yea, free student licence is also kind of a trap 😛
lone grail
I haven't used it since adobe bought them, but I never had that issue to launch
plucky pagoda
When I used it I had a bat file shortcut that opened it ten times, then just manually killed any extra
carmine frigate
if you use it for free on school for 4 years switching to a free alternative is kind of an expense , if u started with that mayB better
plucky pagoda
It's a bug with their license check that will never get fixed
lone grail
Well development stopped years ago didn't it?
plucky pagoda
They claim it didn't but seems that way to me. They keep promising they have a better thing around the corner.
lone grail
That isn't with adobe?
plucky pagoda
No, Adobe had something that was supposed to be the successor to it.
lone grail
Just use MB-Lab for blender and then we don't need to wait for stuff that isn't gonna happen or will be pou pou
plucky pagoda
I haven't used it in at least a year. Downloaded all the animations and have them in a project if I ever need them.
It was nice to have though when I first started working with Unreal.
lone grail
Yeah I have a folder with YBot with all the locomotion anims in a folder but never use them
Yeah it was good to learn setting up anims with for sure
plucky pagoda
These are all fuse models. https://youtu.be/flFKiRasCHY
damn that looks bad
lol, at the time I was like this is awesome
lone grail
My animations are 💩 which is why I haven't posted my video in work in progress channel yet, was gonna redo anims but I want to make a character but I'm awful at making characters so it'll be forever until I post there lol
plucky pagoda
Now I want to go back and use those models with better rigs.
lone grail
I'm still pondering what to do with my project, I've thought about moving from first to third person and then change the combat system, but the combat system was the entire point to this game lol
plucky pagoda
This is the first project I worked on in Unreal and it used Fuse models. https://youtu.be/biECQdCajw4
lone grail
Nice
plucky pagoda
I really like stealth games and want to make one at some point.
lone grail
Stealth games are cool and ninjas are cool, I don't remember my first game in UE4 but my first game in UE3 was a first person platforming puzzle game, I'm currently working on a First person samurai game with 8 directional free form combat
plucky pagoda
You can do it several ways.
lone grail
Yeah I've never tried something like that and always wondered
plucky pagoda
Mostly I use sockets all around the character for different kill animations and then move the player towards the closest one and play one of the animations appropriate for that socket location.
So there's a transition animation that moves the player into place then the kill aniamtion
lol, simple is the rule I live by
lone grail
Sounds pretty straight forward
I usually send out a ray if there is an interaction and get the vector point and then do something if vector point = specific parameter but not sure if that would work that way
plucky pagoda
Same thing, just put some sockets on the player mesh or scene components in the character BP and move the enemy to the nearest one, pick the animation.
lone grail
By sockets do you attach to component using scene objects? or in the skeleton?
plucky pagoda
sockets on skeleton
You can use scene components in the character though
but might not be precise enough if you change skeletons
lone grail
Okay, Yeah before I did my own rigs I always used scene components for that type of thing
Yeah true
plucky pagoda
but you could adjust them easily for each mesh
Scene components might be easier
if you are doing a lot of them
lone grail
Yeah easier but doesn't follow animations only collider so that's something to think about
I used them for testing weapon systems but once I added a character t'was poop
lone grail
If it works it works that's my rule lol
plucky pagoda
I couldn't find any tutorials or anything on it when I was trying to figure it out.
lone grail
Sometimes if I can't find tutorials I look at info or tutorials on things that might be similar and find my way to kinda transfer skills kinda thing
fresh heath
Demon’s Souls (Bluepoint Games / Japan Studio) – US$69.99/¥7,900/€79.99 What the hell is this price
plucky pagoda
I was really new to UE when I did that too so not sure if I'd find a better way to do it now or not.
fresh heath
Marvel’s Spider-Man: Mile Morales Ultimate Edition (Insomniac Games) – US$69.99/¥7,900/€79.99
lone grail
The spider man game is cheaper than the average game due to it being much shorter and more like a stand alone expansion, also I've been paying $80 for new games for years lol
junior meteor
wonder whats next
lone grail
Oh I figured out how to do dismemberment just messing around with stuffs in my enemy BP a couple weeks back and that was fun
junior meteor
...
plucky pagoda
Two ways I've approached it. One you use a mesh already broken into parts, or for zombies I used procedural mesh that built into whatever pose they were in when they died and then sliced it.
had to make a custom component though to get the procedural mesh to work with the sk
plucky pagoda
No that's wrong, I think. I'd have to look at how I did it with the procedural mesh.
@carmine frigate Lol, that's great.
you should make that into a couch co-op
fall guys extreme
1000% more blood and saws
carmine frigate
yea i like the editor icon art
plucky pagoda
It's great.
carmine frigate
it has a nice sun sprite
plucky pagoda
Reminds me of Mr. happy face from new grounds
median wraith
basically the new PS5 is the most expensive
except the PS3 that was more expensive
🤔
carmine frigate
ps 1 2 and 3 were B4 euros tho
plucky pagoda
ugh, this map is like watching a slow moving wall of nastiness move across the country.
fresh heath
Final Fantasy XVI looks alright, luckily it's going to be on PC too
median wraith
maybe the PS1 was before euros, but wasn't the 2
carmine frigate
hmm mayB just 1 and 2
plucky pagoda
gotta love the smileys though
carmine frigate
euro started 2002
i knew cuz one of those things costed 1200 on release here
i think that was the 3, but it might still have showed 2 prices, or i just still converted in my head
carmine frigate
how can u compare anything with twitter compression?
median wraith
XDDD
carmine frigate
it looks horrible
median wraith
good to know the super next gen console don't have shadowed foliage from still 2d billboards
lone grail
Gameboy
carmine frigate
running on a preg test
lone grail
While giving birth
I'm hyped for demon's souls one of my all time favorite games looking beautiful
carmine frigate
that demo looked like tomb raider to me, but im kinda graphics blind i think
median wraith
Well you know the tech demos, the PS5 demo showcase were for PS6 GAMES @zinc matrix
🤖
lone grail
The tech demos are usually a bit much, look at the Zelda tech demo for the wiiU perfect example
carmine frigate
next playstation is going to be PS3 X
median wraith
Still don't know why Epic made fortnite and didn't take any other risk to make a new game
UT4 is abandonware
lone grail
Unreal should make next gen Unreal
carmine frigate
they made battlebreakers
lone grail
Oh epic did make it? I thought it was just published by them
carmine frigate
i think they made it
lone grail
Nope thinking of spellbreak my bad
Spellbreak on Epic game store is what my mind went to lol
lone grail
Wait isn't battle breakers just a little mobile game?
carmine frigate
its a card game
lone grail
Oh I thought it was like autochess
carmine frigate
it seemed like an anime tiddy thing
lone grail
It got anime tiddies?
carmine frigate
but i havent played it, not into card games
lone grail
I gotta look into this
carmine frigate
lone grail
I watched the trailer already it was something
carmine frigate
the song is so bad i like it
carmine frigate
wonder if u can still buy stuff on the app store 😛
lone grail
I'll never put money into mobile
lone grail
Lol
I downloaded spellbreak some time ago and haven't got into it yet, I just wanna know how they do the celshading!!!! lol
carmine frigate
i read the comments and some1 said if 2 ppl are fighting u have no idea whats goin on, so i kinda like that
spellbreakers! ooh ooh oooh
lone grail
I want nice celshading, I did a few tutorials that took so long and they looked like poop
carmine frigate
u mean outlines or 1 color shaddow?
lone grail
I don't think just doing that will make the effect i'm looking for
Like things look flat, I had it before but I can't find the documentation I found before, it was in another language but I filled in the blanks and it looked amazing
I was able to have shiny objects with the anime look and it was perfect, but that was many projects ago
carmine frigate
lot of effects just look good from certain distance/angle,. if u dont have full controll over the camera it wont allways look good
jagged owl
Who else omega-hyped for FF16?
lone grail
I'm hyped but I still gotta beat FFXV so there is wiggle room for more hype
carmine frigate
hmm i still have to start FF1
lone grail
Oh FF1 and 2 on PSP were amazing remakes
jagged owl
You don't need to know previous games to understand the others.
carmine frigate
i put up kingsclaive recently but i had to go after 5 min
lone grail
Yeah each FF is essentially it's own story but I know if I get 16 I wont go back to 15 lol
carmine frigate
i heared that like top notch 3d render mov
lone grail
It looks cool
carmine frigate
i watched BLAME! recently and it was really good
lone grail
That's the celshading i'm looking for
flat crisp 1 tone shading
I don't even know if I really want celshading in my game lol
carmine frigate
yea its sick good
jagged owl
Opinion on UI?
lone grail
It looks cool
carmine frigate
81/100
lone grail
Badum tss
jagged owl
urgh lol
carmine frigate
😛
jagged owl
Also, the 81 isn't a percentage in this case.
lone grail
Ohhh I thought it was lvl
carmine frigate
that lvl81 good
jagged owl
Could be level, was intending it to be just numeric HP though
lone grail
Still makes sense either way
fresh heath
A classic FPS for just 1 USD
I already had the previous version on GOG, but bought this one anyway
zinc matrix
Hey guys, I'm making first prototype for my game, selecting genre and gameplay. Which type of games do you recommend which play well without Animations or anything eye candy
zinc matrix
I tried it, however it is too much physics dependant
fresh heath
A space sim?
zinc matrix
Tried to make something good out of the templates, too much hard coding
fresh heath
A rail shooter like Star Fox?
zinc matrix
Space Sims, hmm. Interesting
fresh heath
A pirate sim where you play as a boat
zinc matrix
Lol
carmine frigate
a fishing game where u are the fish with guns
tulip orbit
discord simulator
carmine frigate
crabs with udders is taken, sry
zinc matrix
Type of games or a taste I usually have is - solving problems and getting around/avoid
carmine frigate
yea its a crab with stealth udders game
fresh heath
A turn-based strategy game that is stylized as an actual tabletop game with miniatures
zinc matrix
Anything that has shooting easily works for me
carmine frigate
it looks natural cuz im good at photo editing
fresh heath
or an RPG also stylized as a tabletop game with miniatures
Basically you have static character models that slide around on a field
plucky pagoda
a fishing game where u are the fish with guns
@carmine frigate https://store.steampowered.com/app/450500/Ace_of_Seafood/
plucky pagoda
that game is like my go to for the ultimate example of a fun asset flip
zinc matrix
FPS but metroidvania
carmine frigate
ha his crab doesnt have udders
lone grail
How would one make a 3D metroidvania?
plucky pagoda
Everytime I look at it they've added something crazy stupid again
lone grail
Is it a unity game?
plucky pagoda
probably
jagged owl
@junior meteor What was that man?
zinc matrix
Levels in classic resident evil are like Metroidvania
junior meteor
come on.. age of tech is on the rise .. children play looped levels and nonbeveled books of black and white ink..
fresh heath
@lone grail How would one make a 3D metroidvania? Like Metroid Prime
lone grail
I wouldn't call it a metroidvania though
junior meteor
game or simulation is a new book
lone grail
It certainly is a metroid
carmine frigate
you could make a game about a plumber that jumps on turtles
junior meteor
@jagged owl Corner on right side top and bot,
lone grail
Combine Mario with jack the ripper... jump on hookers lol
junior meteor
not, but a bout an atom getting fuked and universe being born
zinc matrix
Heheheh
fresh heath
I thought metroidvania is just a collective name for games like Metroid, Castlevania, and their clones
lone grail
Metroidvania is where combining elements from both
fresh heath
What are metroidvanias then?
lone grail
I don't have a good explanation on hand but wikipedia definitely explains it on the top of the page
fresh heath
Uhh
median wraith
There we go
Invented euro prices
As what I said and nobody cares
Wait for it
junior meteor
@fresh heath any way I can search the techniques they use to make game adictive .. u get me?
fresh heath
@junior meteor Google "player retention"
carmine frigate
playstation is pretty cheap when u look at the games 🙂
junior meteor
@fresh heath Og
zinc matrix
Metroidvania - Large Interconnected World
junior meteor
and combine with physica and you got generation of children who take care of global warming
lone grail
There's a couple more things to go along with large interconnected worlds isn't there?
zinc matrix
Plenty
median wraith
@carmine frigate lol sure Microsoft and ps invented the dollars to euros ratios and nobody is saying anything cuz we live in a world of people that can't think it seems
carmine frigate
i dont buy a lot of games so it doesnt really effect me
junior meteor
do you play games?
zinc matrix
Who would like something like Dead Space?
carmine frigate
yea some, but i have a backlog allready
lone grail
Dead space is a great game
lone grail
I play those
zinc matrix
I am playing it this week to get some inspiration
junior meteor
mannequin is best bro
lone grail
Blender multiplayer hmm 🤔 lol
fresh heath
@junior meteor You should probably look into Alan Kay's children education research
Hacker News
carmine frigate
i play some coop stuff with a friend of mine, usually f2p stuff or those epic freebees tho 😛
north torrent
Co-op Unreal Engine or Player vs Player Unreal Engine?
carmine frigate
that friend doesnt like UE4 so i havent tried multi user editing yet
zinc matrix
Given the problem of animations specially, I might just stick with World as the hurdle, like traps and puzzles. Or robots on wheels
Or wheelchairs
carmine frigate
north torrent
Someone who doesn't like Unreal Engine 4 is certainly not a friend.
zinc matrix
Worship it, its the only hope
carmine frigate
he did some singing for a themesong for a gamejam for me once
zinc matrix
I used unity for 2 days, now I'm in an asylum
junior meteor
@fresh heath noted*
carmine frigate
thats him singing
junior meteor
1 year ago when researching, pick unreal straighn
my project was called Unreal Unieverse before that
but unity has no view port
got to establish communication with that alien thing, but its unstable
zinc matrix
Btw, anyone looking for level designer, contact
junior meteor
i need a whole squad
zinc matrix
Who doesn't
junior meteor
and we evolve this existence
pierce through the veil of time
im making a game for you guys
after I made it, i will go rob a bank to pay you to play it
carmine frigate
did any1 play those 3 out of 10 games free on epic?
they seem kinda funny
episodes
north torrent
I'm playing a game about trains.
plucky pagoda
I really disliked the long dark.
I hated the way it forced mechanics like lighting a fire to be tied to a specific barrel or something in a building. You could freeze to death in a building next to a stove with materials to make a fire but it wouldn't let you just build a fire.
light spruce
That kinda sounds like what would happen with an actual person. "Here are things to make a fire." fucks up and freezes to death
plucky pagoda
Sounds about right.
lone grail
Ouch
Good thing I didn't show my progress video in WiP because I just changed it from first to third person lol
dim ruin
Would it be weird to define a particular bait as the "master"?
(fishing of course)
A "Master Bait" if you will
foggy path
I was wondering where you were going with that lol
dim ruin
Its a legit concern. Its for a fishing minigame
foggy path
if you really want to avoid making it sound like uhh.. things.. you could probably just use something else than master lol
like primary or main
foggy path
well then there's no problem is there :D
lone grail
If you have different tiers to bait like "common" "Legendary" "Epic" you could say "Epic Bait (Master)" or something
Or just have "Master Bait" and let people giggle while playing 🤷♂️
foggy path
I mean there's at least one entire episode of pokemon which is basically sexual innuendo because they keep talking about mating pokemon
so I'm sure you can get away calling it master bait lol
dim ruin
I would like to hide something stupid like that as an easter egg or unlockable lure but it would probably jump the ratings for the game just from that one joke
lone grail
Just don't add things like "lubricated" before master lol
You could have it as a easter egg sure, or you could have an acievement called "Master Baiter" instead lol
dim ruin
yeah I thought about that one too lol
dim ruin
Ratings
lone grail
Is it a kids game or something that you may deem as a T rating?
If it's not directed at kids then I say it'd slide
dim ruin
I'd love for a Everyone or Everyone 10+ even
lone grail
Oh okay
dim ruin
its a fishing game lol
I'm just a jackass that would love to hide some funny stuff in there
lone grail
That could cause for concern if parents knew of it before buying it for their child, buuuut as an easter egg I don't think it'd hurt at all
Lol fair enough
I changed the focus of my game, was gonna go with super greusome game but changing for a more whimsical fun adventure instead... my dismemberment will go unsused... but that's okay
dim ruin
meh, teen rating would be fine really. Who's going to care about a fishing game lol
heh nice
lone grail
Fishing games are fun, I'm sure a lot of people would care, and small jokes sprinkled in instead of being a chunk of the game I'm sure you can still get E
dim ruin
well if I get this thing to release, just know there will be some easter eggs in there lol
lone grail
But at the end of the day, make the game how you want and don't let the ratings discourage your ideas
Good! I love a good easter egg hunt
dim ruin
cursive crypt
TIL these are the video cards which render the buildings.
plucky pagoda
ah, cool, Miles Morales will be on PS4 too.
light spruce
Miles Morales the fictional character???
north torrent
I just got Yak milk in the mail!
light spruce
I'm sorry?
north torrent
I've been wanting to try Yak milk for a long time.
light spruce
Then... congratulations
median wraith
PS5 the most powerful thing
it's cuz the SSD that is so fast you can't notice it
and what about the genuine 16k textures
I'm in the feel this is all because the job pressure, plus the fire of employees and all the real professionals with experience are leaving
yeah, but that one don't move
watching spiderman now
it seems like they cut on postprocessing
seems to be as old COD games filtering
light spruce
I've never played a Resident Evil game
median wraith
is another FPS ?
zinc matrix
LIFE IS BRUTAL COPE KONKI
fresh heath
cursive crypt
zinc matrix
the ol poophole loop hole
alpine fern
or you can just play on windows like a normal person where portal works in fullscreen as expected?
median wraith
Now my whole tweeter feed is about people saying wont buy Harry Potter cuz don't want to support the original writer 🤖
mossy nexus
Sounds like you need a new twitter feed
fresh heath
Just add "Harry Potter" to muted words
zinc matrix
https://i.imgur.com/DoNwa6o.png
Wtf man
light spruce
I'm a big fan of the one where you watch a child get strangled unless you pay money
zinc matrix
wtf
median wraith
Raytraced glass
cancels raytraced water
Mom the ocean just gone at looking cross the window
lone grail
I still think raytracing shadows are the most impressive part of raytracing
alpine fern
certainly the best performing one
median wraith
is the same
get ms from FPS if you wish
Oh look Nvidia fake reports how good
well, no double the frames isn't double ms
alpine fern
where's the issue?
lone grail
I remember people complaining they couldn't get more than 120fps, what is the point of having more that 120 fps?
alpine fern
if it's not double the fps, it's not double the performance, case closed
lone grail
FPS isn't the end all performance measure-er
alpine fern
3080 is very disappointing
lone grail
3080 is still an upgrade and it's cheaper than some of the older ones though
alpine fern
because it's not as good as nvidia said it will be
nowhere near
that doesn't mean it's bad
it's great
they just over promised a lot so now what could have been great becomes disappointing
quiet narwhal
where did they promise either?
alpine fern
what else do you want to be doing with your performance besides rendering more frames?
lone grail
There are multiple things to measure as performance not FPS alone
median wraith
I mean Nvidia claim this on their video too
lone grail
Maybe the bottleneck is the issue? 🤷♂️
median wraith
Math isnt something they control
lone grail
Wii
median wraith
U
lone grail
Lol
novel latch
woops, apparently I'm toxic and turned my head off
sorry guys! ❤️
it's been a rough week
median wraith
someone all the Nvidia official stats they show were removed ?
you just can find small images
lone grail
Looking at that makes me feel blind
median wraith
that's a raytracing secondary effect
lone grail
Lol
median wraith
soft night
lone grail
Why is flight simulator so low?
soft night
what title is those are?
soft night
i mean for what GPU
lone grail
I think my internet is trying to fail me
lone grail
My internet has fixed itself
fringe sundial
a lot of the games get cpu bottlenecked
thats why all the perf numbers nvidia gives are at 4k which is very gpu-bottleneck
fluid bloom
maybe I should get a 24" 4K display and 3080 or 3090 🤔
the pixel density would probably be high enough for finally being able to render tree leafs and grass blades at a distance instead of green mush
quiet narwhal
heh Nvidia just sent me an email letting m know that the 3080 was now available.... /rude
fresh heath
zinc matrix
copyright strikes, i really don't like copyright strikes
cursive crypt
@fluid bloom on 1m average person may discern objects bigger than .29mm (multiply by distance if you are further). 27" 4k is ~.16 mm pixel size.
fresh heath
Apparently buildings are copyrightable too: https://www.stevenbuccini.com/why-1wtc-isnt-in-spiderman
median wraith
How much bigger are the new GPUs by the way ? Drop here the question
fathom wadi
How is this even value for money at this point? I wanted to buy Animate for my daughter, and they charge you more than £10 extra a month if you pay on a month by month basis. But don't worry. You get upto 10 free stock images ! SMH
ugh I thought i'd go check if they had a student version because we homeschool, so yeah. But they charge for that too. Cheaper but still...
foggy path
Adobe software stopped being good value for money a while back I think
Their Creative Suite pricing model is clearly designed with professionals in mind ignoring everyone else
fathom wadi
it's frustrating because I dumped them 2 years ago. But my daughter is learning 2d animation. I can pay for this but it's still overpriced considering you don't own it. I might look up some free alternative. I used to use one or two IDEs back in the day but none are as nice as adobes
foggy path
yeah
I know I read in the 2000s that Adobe doesn't care if you pirate their software
As in, for personal learning use type stuff
fathom wadi
I've had to at times. Just to eat.
foggy path
because you're gonna use them in your job and that's when they get their money :D
I don't know if they still have this policy on it though
fathom wadi
I bought Flash once for £550. Then they made my version defunct, so I spent some time having to use a dodgy version
fudge. Can't even get the student version without accredited US homeschooling declarations.
lone grail
Ouch, I've only purchased the CC once in 2014 or 2015 and they actually gave me a lot of grief trying to cancel so I swore to never sub to adobe again
tulip orbit
I've got the sub for photoshop right now, and yeah I'd really like to find an alternative
fathom wadi
My last account was lost because I tried to reset my password, and it didn't work. I ran through several support guys and eventually got angry and swore at them before cancelling. #catharsis
@tulip orbit photopea.com does the basics
a lot more than the basics in fact. I prefer it over GIMP 😄
yeah that ide is archaic now
I got an updated one and it bugged out so bad I had to uninstall it
lone grail
Afinity products are great
tulip orbit
Hmm, photopea... it looks decent...
fathom wadi
aye its great for a quick meme
yeah I have a bunch of tools that do what gimp does but more focused so I don't have to open it as often 😄
lone grail
I used gimp before but haven't used it in years
fathom wadi
It does the job for sure. Its just awkward when you spent so many years with photoshop / pshoppro
tulip orbit
thinking about it now... I'm not even sure what I actually use photoshop for... I used it the other day for a quick temporary stained glass window, but that was first time in a while it was open
lone grail
I got Corel Painter 2019 for super cheap on humble bundle and I have affinity designer, both those combined I can do anything!! lol
Lol yeah
Oh I hated when gimp was a bunch of separated windows
That was awful lol
fathom wadi
yeah 3 UIs floating around 😄
lone grail
I decided to recreate my combat system in a third person template, and it's gonna be SO much work lol
tulip orbit
photopea, I'm not seeing any licensing info... free to use for commercial?
Hm. seems to be.
fathom wadi
its got a fair amount of tracking on that site so YOU are the product 😄
carmine frigate
@tulip orbit just use krita
i like it better than gimp
and PS, but only used that a few times
tulip orbit
hmm
carmine frigate
also u can use blender, it light seem basic on brushes and stuff, but u can also draw with sculpts
fathom wadi
grease pencil can do some amazing stuff if you are so inclined. I just use it for stickmen
carmine frigate
yea it also has texture paint, but its the combination that makes it super weird i guess
tulip orbit
krita looks good, may use it in the future if I need to draw stuff, which I avoid cause I suck at drawing
carmine frigate
well if u suck at drawing paying a PS sub wont make u better 😛
tulip orbit
occasional photo manipulation, better control at cropping and such then paint
cancelling now, dont have the money anyways
carmine frigate
could also use the iliad unreal plugin for basic stuff
could do some wack BP stuff with that
i only cropped in engine
tulip orbit
well, I'd LIKE to cancel... but last payment didnt go thru so it wont let me...
fluid bloom
why the fuck does disney+ have only two episodes of mandalorian on it
carmine frigate
is it ep 3 and ep6?
lone grail
Disney has entered the twilight zone
carmine frigate
i havent tried disney+
lone grail
Same
carmine frigate
you would think they do a bunch of content to get some userbase at start
lone grail
It's not like they have the content lol
carmine frigate
lol its disney, that goes back to WWI propaganda movies
lone grail
Yeah
zinc matrix
watch dogs 2 is free on epic games y'all go get it instantly
lone grail
Daffy was up to some shit back in WW2 lol
I have it on ps4 but good looking out I'll get a backup pc copy
tulip orbit
K I've been staring at a blank landscape all morning trying to think of how build a town for my RPG.... 😰
fresh heath
Romero keeps getting teased about Daikatana on Twitter all the time
dusky shuttle
Did people suddenly like it or are they doing it as a meme
dusky shuttle
Yeah i saw his tweet about it
fresh heath
Apparently past the first chapter it's a decent game at least
The first chapter is what turned most people off, along with the friendly NPC being dumb as hell
dusky shuttle
I'll probably give it another chance, not a fan of having to pick up an item to be able to save the game but we'll see
fresh heath
"I can't leave without my buddy Superfly" ...who is stuck on some piece of level geometry again
lone grail
Their not trending in Canada so that's kinda weird lol
I have successfully recreated my weapon and combat system in a third person project, it was tedious but hopefully will be better
median wraith
🤖
lone grail
Looks pretty good
fathom wadi
I'd change the texture. Someone is guaranteed to say "that's an asset flip. Look. He never even changed the texture"
lone grail
I'm feeling lazy too, I recreated my combat system but I don't wanna make animations right now, i'm bad at it so it's kinda rough
tulip orbit
"Thats my secret cap, I'm always lazy"
fathom wadi
I burned out on animations. I never really enjoyed it. Only problem is, im broke and work alone. So it's really slow work
lone grail
I work alone but got more confident with animations but still not great, I did have more fun last time I did them
tulip orbit
its only slow if you want them to look good, otherwise just slap 'em together
fathom wadi
it's like "yay I managed to animate climbing through that hole with a decent look and didn't make it look absolutely awful and it only took me 2 days for like 8 seconds yay"
I usually do use crap mocap or some other base animation as a placeholder, but my current one is heavy on the physical animation side and needs to be implemented into the navigation system and everything. It's like staring down a tunnel with no light tbh.
tulip orbit
I'm ok with the animations, I get the broad strokes done, but my anims wouldnt hold up in a FPS
lone grail
I wish I could do mocap lol
fathom wadi
you can for a fee
wait until the new video ai neural mocap systems come out properly. Then you dont even need a suit
tulip orbit
bring back vertex animation! 😄
fathom wadi
Im using the control rig. Fun times if you think about what entails
lone grail
Everytime I use rigify with UE2Rigify it messes up the animations
When I switch between IK and FK there is always some weird bone drifting and I can never fix it so I had to stop using it 😦
rich quiver
Twitter
plucky pagoda
@lone grail I'm telling you buy autorig pro if you're rigging in Blender. I'm going to do a video on it because it is just so easy to rig and get a nearly perfect UE Mannequin rig.
tulip orbit
I use MrMannequin in blender, works great for me
lone grail
It's not rigging I have issue with, it's just animating, I just have issues with rigify so I rig myself
I try not to put out money where I don't need to
plucky pagoda
Auto-rig gives you a full IK setup including facial with a few clicks
versed thicket
Thanks for that, Mike, will look into that one.
lone grail
Is there a free trial thing?
plucky pagoda
I'd pay 100 for it for sure
tulip orbit
if you have the money, and it saves time, yeah
lone grail
I'm just hesitant because auto rigging tools I tend to have issues with while animating
plucky pagoda
fathom wadi
Using control rig to handle your FK/IK setup is also an option now. It's worked pretty much as well as Blender for me so far.
It's actually really simplified and visualised well enough
lone grail
Is control rig another add on?
fathom wadi
it's built in a plugin to UE4.25 (and some previous versions but 4.25 was a milestone). I do a basic bone setup, usually matching roughly what the mannequin is for later retargeting, then create a Control Rig asset from it. All my FK/IK goes in there, you can have different setups for different classes etc. It's not perfect yet but I'm not having much issue with it other than the raw animation work costing me more time than I like to spend on it.
But thats my fault not Control Rigs 😄
lone grail
So is it animating inside ue?
fathom wadi
it's extensible too which is key. You can make new functionality as you go with Unit Nodes.
yeah
you use sequencer to animate with it
lone grail
Interesting
So you can just animate the default maniquin without doing anything to it? or do you have to add IK if you want IK?
fathom wadi
There is a default mannequin Control Rig you can use if you like. That's all setup. But its so simple, you can apply that method to anything, even brand new non-human rigs. The sky is the limit.
Want to grow a tailbone on a human? Just add it on the fly
lone grail
I'll try it out thanks
fathom wadi
Helge Mathee is a boss. I saw another podcast where he introduced it and followed that but I'll check this out too for more nuggets of info
I envision a parity between bone setups in 3rd party apps and the control rig at some point. So if I wanted to have the Bendy Bones setup from Blender in UE4, the control rig would support a unit for it. If you wanted to add a hook up with procedural houdini stuff, an interface for that too. I mean, you can't overhype this really. It's just still early days so there are frustrations
lone grail
So when you said you can add bones on the fly, you can only add from existing and can't create a rig from scratch right?
fathom wadi
Normally the control rig matches what bone structure is there, but if you were to attach another mesh with bones, you could extend a control rig to use that too. You can use virtual bones also. But as it stands, there is no weighting unit or anything like that in terms of on the fly. I gather there will be at some point, but like I said, frustrations.
carmine frigate
you can get all the blender plugins from github i believe
support creators and all that but the licence is like that
lone grail
I'd just rig in blender then animate in control rig that seems like a good workflow
carmine frigate
well thats what i read, there was some sort of turbulence in the blender community cuz some1 made a free plugin to download payed plugins for free
like you can sell blender on steam and thats completely legal, but you also have the source code open for free
lone grail
Ahh
carmine frigate
im not a lawyer tho
lone grail
I prefer to purchase if something has a price tag, I'm not 12 anymore I can afford stuff... if I need lol
carmine frigate
the blender license transfers, that doesnt go for textures and stuff tho
but the code has to be free if you sell it or someshit like that
you can copy paste code from blender to unreal engine as long as the packeaged game doesnt contain it, if it does the engine and game would need the same licence
if you render movies in unreal you could copy paste blender into unreal if u liked (*can do that shit)
some1 might be able to explain it better or correct me where im wrong
plucky pagoda
The git is just a trial. You are allowed to charge for your plugins.
carmine frigate
yea but ur also alllowed to sell blender as a whole
it just has to be OS
and u can get it for free allready
prolly w8 for 4.26 control rig is kinda broken 😛
lone grail
After dinner I'm gonna do control rig tutorials, I'm ready for it, dont wanna wait
plucky pagoda
Control rig lets you use IK and animate with an already skinned mesh. Auto-rig pro skins the mesh and gives you an IK/Fk rig in the process.
They have overlapping use but not entirely the same.
carmine frigate
yea sure, get the controll rig from the marketplace its free and from epic
it not fully broken 🙂
lone grail
So use auto rig then use control rig to finish off, sounds like a good workflow
carmine frigate
i had a lot of inconsistensies tho
lone grail
I've seen plenty of videos on youtube using the manniquin and showing off really cool animations, I always thought those were done with control rig
Rigify gives me problems
I prefer to rig my own and add my own IK instead of using rigify, I actually enjoy rigging
carmine frigate
yea same, i did a bunch of ik setups and never used rigify
controll rig is more like that than rigify
its basically the same as setting ur ik stuff by hand in blender
carmine frigate
yea thing is.. i like blender viewport controlls better than unreal
lone grail
A hover vehicle racing game like everyone else
carmine frigate
that xyz widget in unreal often sends stuff 2000km away
lone grail
Well I'll give it a go and see what happens
carmine frigate
in blender g .. x and u grab on X and its not viewport based
lone grail
Depends if you have world selected or something else
I just want easier ways to have good looking animations while doing it myself lol
carmine frigate
if an object in unreal is not center point you sling that stuff like crazy
handkey stuf is pretty hard to look natural
lone grail
Yeah, I want simple stuff like Zelda not realistic but looks good
carmine frigate
what zelda?
lone grail
The newest
carmine frigate
thats also mocap for a lot
carmine frigate
the face is prolly done by hand
lone grail
Yeah, my attack animations I did before looked pretty good... well some of them looked convincing but I made them for first person so they don't work for my game anymore