lounge

[icy minnow]

i don't think they're going to get me any new hardware lol

[light spruce]

I already have distortion issues by virtue of non-spherical corrective lenses

[fluid bloom]

also after using an S-PVA display for over a decade I really, really don't want an IPS panel display

this lenovo is, and it's horrible imo

really shitty blacks

[north torrent]

Well, they can't get you something that isn't for sell yet, Mr. Starshade.

[fluid bloom]

off center glow at the corners

etc

[icy minnow]

S-PVA? I'm not familiar

[fluid bloom]

super patterned vertical alignment, nobody does them anymore

[light spruce]

OLED...... for when you really don't give a shit about color consistency

[icy minnow]

to me, IPS has always been the most superior panels. I guess that *might not be accurate anymore, but I really like IPS > other panels historically

[north torrent]

I am literally making a black and white game, Mr. Justin.

[fluid bloom]

VAs would be best IF they had proper (read: fast) black to 25% white level pixel transitions

[icy minnow]

problem solved mao 😛

[north torrent]

That's why I want OLED and HDR 10.

I want to see what I can do with really dark blacks and really bright whites.

[icy minnow]

So VAs have the odd viewing angle problems, right? (not that with a curved that's a key concern, lol)

[light spruce]

When you say black and white do you mean single bit graphics or greyscale?

Because I'm ready to punch you in the throat if you answer incorrectly

[north torrent]

I am basing it off of old Noir movies, that's why I used the artistic term.

[fluid bloom]

the color shift that happens with VA is when the display is viewed at +30 degrees off center axis, I think

[north torrent]

Technically it is greyscale.

[fluid bloom]

and it's not that drastic

[light spruce]

Noir? So... Greyscale where you crush the shit out of the blacks

[north torrent]

Yes.

That's why I want OLED.

[fluid bloom]

OLEDs are nice

[icy minnow]

I was asking cause my wife kinda hangs out by the desk when i'm playing games, or we watch anime/movies

[fluid bloom]

though the burn in thing is real

and damage from sunlight

[icy minnow]

i was willing to sacrifice her experience to play W3 more immersively, but.. ;P

[fluid bloom]

my telly is an lg oled

[light spruce]

Your luminance values are 0, 4, 60, or 60+

[icy minnow]

those LG OLED panels are beautiful.

although with the price, i'd be super pissed if something burned in

[fluid bloom]

B7V, 2007 model and it cost me 2k euros xD

[north torrent]

As long as it lasts me for this one game project I don't care if it gets burn in later.

[fluid bloom]

few months down the line they went down to 1k

fml

[icy minnow]

oof

[light spruce]

OLED is great for displays that aren't monitors

[fluid bloom]

yup

[icy minnow]

so like TVs than

[fluid bloom]

movies and such are great on them

[icy minnow]

ahh, got'cha

[fluid bloom]

better than in cinemas I'd say

image quality that is

[icy minnow]

unless your kids leave on a show over night and it burns in !!

[north torrent]

I did see that there might be some 42 inch OLED with HDR coming next year. So that might be a path I look into.

[light spruce]

OLED is exactly like plasma only a lot more efficient.

[icy minnow]

oh, that explains some things

[north torrent]

Or I might just go with something like this and skip OLED.

[fluid bloom]

fingers crossed that micro leds will become mainstream soon 😄

[north torrent]

https://www.benq.com/en-us/monitor/photographer/sw270c.html

[icy minnow]

I've owned a plasma tv before

honestly, I need something that looks great for workstation purposes (IDEs and UE4) and multimedia (primarily games). The ideal panel needs to drop

[north torrent]

These BenQ monitors have a dedicated greyscale mode for editing black and white photography and such.

And HDR 10.

[light spruce]

Burn-in is a possibility... but for me the major dealbreaker is just the shitshow of color calibration because none of the elements are identical

[icy minnow]

benq has made some affordable decent monitors from what i recall, atleast two of them

[north torrent]

So might be best for what I want to do with my next game.

[icy minnow]

my heart would be broken if my display had a burn in lol

[north torrent]

I don't consider $800 for a 27 inch to be in the 'affordable' category.

[icy minnow]

my patience is about non-existent for tech malfunctions lol

[fluid bloom]

what's the deal with https://rtings.com not measuring minimum black levels for displays?

I don't get why they don't measure it

[light spruce]

Targeting HDR on a PC is at least as pointless as targeting RTX

[icy minnow]

that's subjective mao 🙂

not that, that specific model is or anything

i haven't had any experience with HDR displays yet

[north torrent]

It is affordable for me personally. But I wouldn't put it in that category.

I am not targeting HDR as a selling point or something. I am just doing this for my own curiosity and self entertainment.

[icy minnow]

or RTX.. I went 780TI>980TI>1080TI.. held off on the 20 series, eagerly waiting for the ti/super variant for 30 series, can't wait to play with it though

[light spruce]

My minimal HDR experience has been, "hey, how would you like to randomly be blinded?"

[icy minnow]

lol

[fluid bloom]

first HDR thing I watched on my tv was star trek discovery

I think it worked there really well

[north torrent]

I turned off HDR on Red Dead Redemption 2. But my display is only HDR 400, which is basically not HDR...

[icy minnow]

damn those lens flares in the new star trek probably would blind you

i don't even know if that's how HDR works, but I assume that it makes those sorta lighting effects hit hard

[fluid bloom]

https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/samsung_odyssey_g7_c27g75t.htm

[light spruce]

It's no exaggeration when I say that unless it's daytime and overcast, I wear sunglasses to drive

[fluid bloom]

see, VA panel is best 😛

[icy minnow]

hah, i just pasted a link to the G9, Jonimake

that's the curved panel i was thinking of buying lol

[fluid bloom]

yea if the curve doesn't bother you just go for it

[north torrent]

Too wide for me.

[icy minnow]

i have no idea if it does or not, i haven't ever tried any lol

and i live in rural BFE, so there's not like any cool places to go in to test

[light spruce]

So I'm not a great example of the merits of HDR

[north torrent]

Go to a store and try a super ultrawide before you decide on one.

[icy minnow]

somehow, by some twist of fortune and blessings, i have some of the best internet in the country out here, but no hardware stores around at all

there aren't any around, lol

[light spruce]

a wider color gamut is always good... being able to crank the shit out of the brightness... eh

[fluid bloom]

I don't think I have ever seen a VA panel display with such a fast 0->50 transition https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/images/samsung_c27g75t/response_6.png

[icy minnow]

see i thought that's why OLEDs were the top of the pack?

They had the blackest blacks and truest colors, doesn't sound like that's accurate

I'm probably mixing it up

[north torrent]

All the computer stores where my home in the United States is are closing down. Amazon is putting them all out of business. Very sad.

[light spruce]

Black levels are the big advantage of OLED

[fluid bloom]

• no backlight bleed at all

[icy minnow]

i ran a PC store, can confirm, it's pretty barren. My family business is still operating, but I have no idea how well off it is

[light spruce]

Aside from shit most people don't care about like power consumption

[north torrent]

Last time I visited the US I was rather depressed at all the small businesses going out of business or just plane gone. Empty buildings everywhere, empty shopping malls.

And this was before Corona...

Probably worse now...

[icy minnow]

and me over here afraid to buy a 30 series cause of power draw lol

[light spruce]

probably is an extraneous word

[icy minnow]

so i have a suboptimal electrical configuration going on, so if I turn on the AC or heater with my computer, poof

breakers blow lol

(they're on the same breaker, whoever wired this house did a really crummy job, in my estimation, which is backed by zero electrical experience 👍 )

another reason why shadow.tech is a life saver for me

[north torrent]

https://displayhdr.org/#tab-400-true-black

[light spruce]

I'm trying to decide between 40 amp circuits and 50 for the new place

[north torrent]

If you have a problem with power then you should be aware that a monitor like the Samsung you are looking at is going to have a huge power brick and draw a lot of power.

All HDR 10 monitors have huge power consumption.

[icy minnow]

Good to know, hehe

[north torrent]

They usually have a laptop sized power brick on the power cable.

Not just a standard power cable.

[icy minnow]

That's OK, I'm decomissioning my kids high end desktops in lieu of dummy terminals basically to use that shadow thing, so voila

more power for me 😄

[north torrent]

No RTX 3090 for my ITX rig though... sigh...

[tulip orbit]

jeebus thats a big card

[north torrent]

https://overclock3d.net/gfx/articles/2020/09/07062732549l.jpg

I want this one.

4 slot.

[fluid bloom]

Look at me, I'm the motherboard now - RTX 3090

[icy minnow]

haha

I am so excited

Finally justification for my super tower

[north torrent]

I just want a massive heat sink. I will most likely take the fans off.

[foggy path]

it's so stupid how big that is :P

[icy minnow]

The anime equivalent of this feeling is the eyeglass flash

[foggy path]

we're probably gonna see more big cards now

[icy minnow]

no zomg. It's life.

The bigger the better, afterall! Right??!

OK, i'm compensating clearly.

[foggy path]

I thought the GTX 1080 Ti was big compared to my old Radeon 7970...

:P

[north torrent]

The nature of heat sinks is that the more metal you have the more it can remove heat from your GPU.

[icy minnow]

the 1080 TI is huge. It's looking at me right now.

The 3090 is just unashamed and massive

Has there been any news if they're going to do the card they usually do between the titan and *80 tier card?

[north torrent]

https://static.bhphoto.com/images/images2500x2500/1589219488_1557439.jpg

It is the same concept as giant tower CPU coolers. You need big chunks of metal.

[icy minnow]

When they announced the 20s series, they came out with the 2080 TI pretty quickly, I figured we would've heard something about a 3080 TI or something, but nada?

[north torrent]

3090 is the Titan.

So basically if a GPU has a huge heatsink the fans don't have to be running crazy loud as much as before.

[foggy path]

they're definitely going pretty wild with the 3090

anything more powerful than that would need to probably be even bigger lol

[north torrent]

Then if you have good fans to pull the hot air out the bottom of the case nice and quick, you will get great cooling overall.

[foggy path]

or run even hotter..

[icy minnow]

well, the TI variant is usually between the top tier consumer and TITAN

and it's usually a wee bit afterwards and optimized a bit

but i'm not really a buff on GPUs, so I might be confused. I did expect to hear something about it during the launch though, or like, y'know, "super or TI variants coming early 2021" or something heh. Spoiled I guess

[north torrent]

https://www.jonsbo.com/en/products/umx3silver.html

I am thinking about trying this for my RTX 3090 build.

[icy minnow]

so jonimake, you think that odyssey g7 is pretty good?

[north torrent]

I want to get that 4 slot monster of a card Aorus designed. Take the fans off, and then have the GPU sitting right at the bottom of the case where 2 Noctua 25 x 120 fans are pulling all the hot air right out the bottom.

Should be quiet and good at cooling if I do that.

[icy minnow]

4 slot card?

That's dramatic lol

[north torrent]

I am a dramatic kind of guy.

Might as well fill the space at the bottom of my case. If you look at that picture there is room for 4 pcie slots and then room for 2 full size fans under that.

If you don't fill it with SSDs that is.

I just have to hope that it isn't longer that 320mm... Otherwise I have to go back to the planning stage again...

[ancient ingot]

aww

[north torrent]

This cat doesn't want food, she doesn't want to come inside, but she doesn't want to let me go inside and close the door.
She likes to block the door when you try to close it.

[ancient ingot]

lol cats are dumb, but cute

[north torrent]

You should stay outside with the cat then.

Live in the tree with her.

I'm going inside where I have AC.

[ancient ingot]

i cant im scared of heights 😐

[north torrent]

There is a game about trains on the Epic Game Store for free.

I am going to play it.

Toot toot!

[ancient ingot]

i just downloaded that lol, it might be relaxing

[north torrent]

I am writing a story about a train robbery.

So a game about 1830s trains is exactly what I need.

I just realized it has DLC.

[ancient ingot]

new trains?

[north torrent]

New locations, scenarios, and trains.

They are themed by countries or regions.

Such as a German pack or a Britain and Ireland pack.

There is a Mexico pack, a Great Lakes pack for the United States.

Do you want a YouTube documentary I have been watching about steam trains?

[ancient ingot]

noooooo my nephew is a train driver

[north torrent]

From the 1800s?

[ancient ingot]

1900's he works on a restored railway with steam trains

https://www.svr.co.uk/

[north torrent]

There is an Australia map.

[ancient ingot]

😮

[north torrent]

New Settlement feature unique to the “Down Under” map: on pre-determined locations, players can now establish new cities and this way arrange the economic system to their liking

[ancient ingot]

https://www.svr.co.uk/images/images/_DSC0385 small.jpg guy in the middle with the cap and dark overalls is my nephew

[north torrent]

Canadian trains.

I'm going to buy England and Ireland.

[ancient ingot]

oo yes, do it !

lol

[north torrent]

A lot.

I was just looking for which expansion was furthest back in time. And of course that is England because they invented the first steam engine.

So 1830 is as far back as this game goes. Many of the other DLC scenarios are 1870s or 1900s or 1850s and such.

The stories I am writing are all very early industrial revolution.

[ancient ingot]

have you tried this voxel plugin ?

[north torrent]

I have never done anything with voxels.

I don't really think I needed a DLC for this game... just wanted to support the developers that gave me a free train game. Toot toot!

[ancient ingot]

id really like terrain deformation, but im worried a voxel plugin on a 12k landscape might have performance issues

[north torrent]

No idea.

[zinc matrix]

guys

[plucky pagoda]

@ancient ingot I wouldn't hesitate to give Phyronnaz's Voxel Plugin a go. He's done a lot of work on it and it supports infinite worlds. He's active here and on his own discord. He and others over there are pretty quick to help each other out.

[dense storm]

if (Brain->GetState() == EBrainState::Broken) { //What shall i do here ? }

[plucky pagoda]

This works for me: {if (dose.dexmethylphenidate < dose.max ){ ++currentDose;}

Then again so do these : --caffeineIntake; ++sleepTime;

[ancient ingot]

@plucky pagoda thanks dude, will do, i need support for importing a heightmap mainly

[plucky pagoda]

Yeah it can do that

I've looked at using it with some big maps I've made in World Machine. I might be using it with what I'm working on now.

[ancient ingot]

oh cool, my terrain i managed to slim down to 12kx12k in a bunch on 4033 tiles

[plucky pagoda]

I don't need full unfettered manipulation, just a little deforming to line things up when players build things. My map is 16km^2

[ancient ingot]

same here, i dont need a crazy amount of deformation just let the players flatten the land so they can build a level base etc

[plucky pagoda]

I don't know how it is now but when I first looked at (which was more than a year ago) the biggest issue I had with performance was the material using slopes, normals etc... to determine what to use. But Knowing what I do know I think I could do it in a more performant way, that is if it doesn't already have something with it.

[ancient ingot]

ahh right, i need to look more in too the material aspect of it

[plucky pagoda]

I do too.

[ancient ingot]

The max size you can import is approximately 16000x16000. Above this resolution, the archive goes beyond 2GB and overflows.

oops

[zinc matrix]

Hey folks, I know most of you might not remember me or even recognize my name, but I was an active member of the discord and the community here, let me get to what I want to say without unnecessary small talk, my house suffered a fire on the 27th of august that rendered me broke, with little to nothing besides a few pieces of clothing, and jobless since I was working as a freelance 2D/3D artist and I’ve lost all my tech in the process of the fire, I just wanted to try to reach out to the communities that I was or still am a part of, share my story and hope for a chance I’ll be having a place to sleep at next month, currently crashing at my grandma’s, also I just wanted to tell the moderators and the staff that if this message breaks some rule on the discord that I won’t be offended or upset in any way shape or form, here’s the page I’m talking about here: Here’s the page i was referring to: https://goget.fund/3hXeQnS

NOTE: This is a reposted message from a week ago, if i’m breaking any rules, please delete it or message me via PM’s, don’t want to be a pain in the ass, especially in these times.

[alpine fern]

you already posted this

[lone grail]

They did mention it was a repost in the last bit

[alpine fern]

is there not insurance for this kind of thing

[plucky pagoda]

He was upfront about reposting it. Not everyone has insurance and insurance can take time. If the mods have an issue with it they'll say something. Most of us are a bit jaded and skeptical but everyone needs a little help sometimes.

[north torrent]

Do you like trains, Mr. Slivinski?

Damn... this keyboard is smooth... It is so weird switching back and forth between this and my normal keyboard.

[plucky pagoda]

Not particularly.

I love my keyboard.

[north torrent]

Were you aware that most technological breakthroughs in history come from losing a source of cheap labor that was being exploited.

[plucky pagoda]

I don't know that I'm willing to accept on faith that 'most' is accurate.

[north torrent]

I really like my super cheap Chinese mechanical keyboard on my main computer.

But I got this much more expensive keyboard that has these sort of advanced version of rubber domes so it is near silent.

But it feels like Cherry Red switches with less friction and sound...

[alpine fern]

what keyboard did you get

[north torrent]

https://www.nizkeyboard.com/products/niz-2019-new-atom-68-ec-bluetooth-keyboard-rgb-or-non-rgb

This is for my school desk which is pretty cluttered with my computer monitor, laptop, stacks of paper I should have graded a week ago, colored pencils, glue sticks, colorful paper, scissors, and all sorts of other stuff.

[plucky pagoda]

@zinc matrix Honestly, I'm pretty skeptical about those posts asking for help. If you post a copy of a fire report that can be verified or something to prove it's legit I'll pitch in.

[north torrent]

So I wanted something small and quiet, but to not feel cheap, as good keyboards are one of my greatest joys in life.

I bought a silent mouse as well that you can't really hear click.

[plucky pagoda]

I like my clickty clacky keys

I changed my job title to " He who makes the keys go clickity clacky"

[north torrent]

I have Cherry Browns on my home keyboard.

But I hide behind a bookshelf so nobody sees me, but my keyboard and mouse keep going click click click and telling people where I am hiding.

[plucky pagoda]

I have a set that's supposed to be similar to those.

[fresh heath]

Google now owns the word "Pixel": https://www.jonpeddie.com/editorials/pixel

[north torrent]

A lot of stuff made by these Chinese companies costs a lot more on the international websites.

Like I paid $90 usd for what they are selling for $149.

And the AOC monitor I just bought for less than my keyboard... $80 is selling for $260 on US websites...

It is weird that I just paid more for my keyboard than my monitor... Life is odd...

[plucky pagoda]

I use to buy things cheap for sale on Amazon. Once the sites they use started getting popular prices increased a lot. Use to be able to get a desk that would sell for like $150 at Meijer or Walmart for like $20 if you bought a few hundred.

[north torrent]

I do need a few hundred desks.

[plucky pagoda]

I mean when you pay less than 10% of what you're retailing it at you only need to sell a few to make at least some profit. At that point it also becomes more costly to store overstock than to just trash it.

Amazon use to (don't know if they still do) charge you for warehouse space if something was there too long but they'd trash it for a cheap fee. So if stuff didn't sell after a month or so , you just trashed it.

[north torrent]

I honestly think in the future things will be so cheap that it won't even make sense to have money to buy things. Everything will be free.

What you will have to pay for is getting rid of the old stuff, because space won't be cheap by that point.

So you can get a new computer monitor for free, but you have to pay someone to take the old one off your hands and stick it somewhere or take it apart or do whatever with it.

You can get all the food you want for free, but you want to be careful because you don't want a house filled with wrappers and containers, so you have to have money to get someone to take all that away.

The easier it is to get rid of or recycle, the cheaper it will be. But things that can't just be recycled or composted will be expensive.

[fathom wadi]

no disassemble johnny five !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POxMp61Ksbk

[fluid bloom]

https://i.imgur.com/dfGfynW.jpg

🤔

[lone grail]

The future will be Mario coins

[fathom wadi]

thats now. have you played modern AAA games?

I mean... mobile has an excuse at least 😄

"it's not a slot machine, it's not a slot machine"
https://twitter.com/f00n/status/1302815249574264832?s=20

Marc Rogerson (@f00n)

These 3D casinos are a bit basic. This one is the Forza Horizon Casino. Not a bad one. I won every spin. #lootboxes https://t.co/b7o4yhJZ0m

▶ Play video

Twitter

[lone grail]

I play and love Forza Horizon 4, sure it's a slot machine, but you don't put real money in it, I've got tons of awesome things from the wheelspin and never put a penny into the game other than the Lego DLC, I like random rewards in games as long as real money doesn't affect it like some certain companies have done in the past

Well I haven't played in a long time, it's the only time I touch my xbox I'm usually on my ps4 lol

[fathom wadi]

Dont get me wrong. Forza 4 is now my new fave racing game. The appeal of the UK roads is huge to me being from the UK. However I am a slot machine addict. So when I see this, its a trigger because it holds a similar adrenaline rush through both good and bad outcomes. So I have no problem with it in an age appropriate game. Otherwise I believe it can train that neuronal connection like a rat pressing a buzzer for food.

[lone grail]

Yeah that's true, I get excited when I get the wheelspin either to get extra money for the car I'm saving up for, or to see if I can get a new car for my collection, I agree it should be in age appropriate games like if they add random winning mechanic whether a wheel spin or loot box (without credit card swiper) then it should automatically get a T rating and classed as gambling, if they require real money like EA then it should be M for hardcore gambling lol

[fathom wadi]

Im thinking about buying FIFA21 because I haven't played it since 16 (and played every version before). But the Ultimate Team legitimately scares me. My last run cost £300 in less than 2 weeks.

I spend less on slots.

[lone grail]

Oh that's awful, I think if a game is gonna cost in microtransactions to enjoy it then it's never worth it, and youtubers that EA sponsor don't help spending hundreds or thousands of dollars on those per video like the pack openings and what not

I tried to get into sports games and just couldn't do it, I like Mario sports games though

I like racing too if that counts, racing is usually in it's own thing

[fluid bloom]

ooh Terminator 1 is on the telly

[carmine frigate]

stop skynet b4 it begins

[cursive crypt]

You are his cousin?

... similar names

[fluid bloom]

owninator is a type of terminator that only terminates its own self

[cursive crypt]

Sounds different to me. Anyway, happy terminating.

[fluid bloom]

arnold just gouged his eye out

nasty

though the special effects are showing their age 😄

[cursive crypt]

...imagine after 40 years... tf is that, raytracing? lmao, noobs

[lone grail]

Practical effects are still the best

[serene shuttle]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psion_Series_5

[fresh heath]

Is 3DCoat the only voxel-based sculpting software?

As far as I know, ZBrush uses some weird concept called "pixol" (not to be confused with pixels), and Blender sculpts directly in polygons

Although I'm not sure what is the difference between a pixol and a voxel

[lone grail]

What's the difference between them? Performance?

[fresh heath]

Yeah, among other things

[lone grail]

I have zbrush core and kinda feel like switching back to blender since the new update

[rich quiver]

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/paxonline?tab=5 pax online page is up

[lone grail]

Nice!

[fresh heath]

Is it even possible to use ZBrushCore without any complementing tools if you are making game assets? I've heard it doesn't even have any retopology tools

[lone grail]

It does have auto retopo since the second last update I believe but it doesn't have zmodeler

[fresh heath]

Is it possible to rig characters there?

[lone grail]

That's the big reason I wanna use blender for sculpting because blending workflow to be able to flip flop between model and sculpt

That's not zbrush core that's for the lower tier one, zbrush core is for commercial work and is more directed at indie devs

Yeah something like that, I got zbrush core a year or 2 ago, it's pretty nice but does lack in some areas for sure

I feel like bad wanting to switch back to blender when I have purchased zbrush core before lol

[plucky pagoda]

Zbrush is fairly cheap now for a monthly. The sculpting in Blender is not anywhere near what you can do in Zbrush and they keep adding more to it.

I'd use both.

[fluid bloom]

though all these subscriptions I have feel like death (to my wallet) by thousand cuts

[plucky pagoda]

Yeah, I've cut out all mine except soundly (which is likely getting cut), Houdini, and Adobe.

but will probably add substance back in soon

Even just those though starts to add up.

Can't wait for 4.26. Those clouds are just what I need.

[lone grail]

I got core before monthly payment was a thing, but I feel you can get same result in either program it just what feels better for the workflow, if core had zmodeler then no question, buuuut going between blender and zbrush is anoying when I want instant quick tweaks that requires modeling

I got Houdini sub twice but barely used it either time :(

[foggy path]

the key shortcut differences between UE and Blender already annoy me to no end

I can't imagine how fucking bad it is if you have to use any more than that :p

people need to agree to some kind of a standard :D

[carmine frigate]

blender and UE4 viewport controlls are godlike

anything that doesnt use those should wither and die

[fresh heath]

I switch between Blender, Substance Painter, and Unreal currently, my head hurts

[foggy path]

I think even Substance Designer and Painter don't follow some of the same keybinds...

:P

[lone grail]

I much prefer to use Zbrush with keyboard and tablet combo but I do the same with blender so it's just what I like but it does get confusing sometimes switching between lol

[icy minnow]

You guys have any good recommendations for folks wanting to learn blender? I've found a few tutorials to follow along on youtube, but honestly, I don't know much about it so I don't know if they're quality info or not.

[foggy path]

if it helps you make models it seems good to me?

[icy minnow]

My kid has decided he wants to do some 3d modeling, so I figured I'd atleast ask since it was on topic

yep he's subbed to that one, so thats +1

[fresh heath]

@icy minnow https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLa1F2ddGya_-UvuAqHAksYnB0qL9yWDO6 https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjEaoINr3zgEq0u2MzVgAaHEBt--xLB6U

[icy minnow]

franky i'm just stoked he's into it, and so i figured i'd try to get some folks thoughts since once again, we're here.

Alright awesome!

I appreciate it!

[fresh heath]

This channel is good for dipping into more advanced features of Blender later: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2U5mRfclG1Rrr1ztNkpGKA

[icy minnow]

I am definitely taking notes and going to send him the list. He's been working on it everyday for a few weeks now, so 🤞

I appreciate all the insight!

oho.. that is awesome.

[foggy path]

Ligh sabers the hard way? How much harder can it be than making a cylinder? 🤔

:D

ah it went a bit more in depth then lol

[fresh heath]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-close-to-buying-arm-for-dollar40-billion-report

[rich quiver]

like powerPC in the past

nvidia follow apple and buy what there interest

[soft night]

lets put some RT cores to arm and cudas too

[rich quiver]

heck epic and nvidia have interest in buying unity shares if they go public

[fresh heath]

Facebook really wanted to buy Unity at some point to complement Oculus

https://twitter.com/EswARVR/status/1298014110630715400

Eswar Anandapadmanaban (@EswARVR)

In light of recent Unity news and the FB convo, let's resurface a letter titled "Mark's Vision"

It's basically a manifesto on why invest in VR and why FB should acquire Unity. Deal never happened, but very revealing doc
https://t.co/iZZsHC80fn

Likes

125

Twitter

[north torrent]

SLI is dead.

[sharp raptor]

Guys, i want to boast. I just made so complicated thing without even looking. Halfway through i was not sure anymore how it works, but it ended up working.

Offtop</>

[lone grail]

That's impressive, I wouldn't be able to connect 1 node without looking 😛

[junior meteor]

@sharp raptor You Rule OG.. The hour of the Bull, ending after 4 in the morning, during this hour human state undergoes some instabilities...whats more intriguing, is that as soon as this hour is over, the stuck on finishes and process progresses.. i have been awake past few month and noticed enough to produce a statement. Hospital patients is a research that proves it.. so, morning hours are treacherous... i share your achievement.!

[dim ruin]

I'd be nervous about Zuck buying Unity. He'd probably open-source it and leave it to rot on github right next to RakNet

[spare glade]

Or worse, go the way he did with Oculus and require anyone who wants to use Unity to login via a Facebook account.

[dim ruin]

Oh wow. I didn't know that about Oculus

[spare glade]

Yeah pretty dick move, considering they espoused they would not interfere at all with Oculus.

[north torrent]

Back up to 64 wpm with this new keyboard... Almost to 65...

Well, on this other test I am in the high 70s... These things don't judge speed the same way or something.

I just hit 82 for typing at approximately the same speed as I was doing on the 64 wpm test... I guess you just can't trust the numbers from one website to another.

[rigid shoal]

typeracer.com is the single source of truth.

I'll race you, if you can even call it that. 😛

[north torrent]

https://play.typeracer.com?rt=1725n53ndd

[rigid shoal]

k

u ded

126 gg

[north torrent]

I don't know what happened there. It won't let me type.

[rigid shoal]

Aw shit, really. You have to click the box, maybe?

We can rematch, if you want. I'll type one handed. 😛

[zinc matrix]

Welp, 27 :D. I get lost on ; and ' and ,. My old keyboard had small enter and they were in different place and I'm still not used to the new layout of this one.

[north torrent]

Looks like on this site I am averaging about 70.

[rigid shoal]

That was fun, for me at least.
Kids at my school wouldn't race me. 😢

[north torrent]

I am pretty consistently hitting between 69 and 73 on this site.

Did you see my new keyboard?

[rigid shoal]

Nope.

[north torrent]

It is silent.

https://www.nizkeyboard.com/products/niz-2019-new-atom-68-ec-bluetooth-keyboard-rgb-or-non-rgb

[zinc matrix]

Second approach 40

[rigid shoal]

That link doesn't work for me, at all.

27 and 40. You gotta get those numbers up, homie.

[zinc matrix]

I would love to see one test where there are only letters, no signs.

[north torrent]

The menu showing the other cars information just popped up in front of the text I am supposed to type.

[rigid shoal]

Move your mouse, I think you're hovering over a car.

This is my keyboard: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71yeo7m662L._AC_SL1500_.jpg
Was only $11.

[north torrent]

https://typing-speed-test.aoeu.eu/

Mr. Offline.

My home keyboard was about 100rmb and it is faster than my new keyboard.

But my new keyboard is very small and is silent. I bought it for my desk at work.

Don't want to disturb everyone with my clicky clacking.

[rigid shoal]

Yeah, clicky mechanical keyboards, or even normal keyboards would be incredibly annoying.

[zinc matrix]

My current https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nZoWMvEqrVE/maxresdefault.jpg

[rigid shoal]

Losing the numpad is heresy.

[north torrent]

This uses a kind of rubber dome that is tactile, but smooth and silent.

Cost 10x what my other keyboard cost...

[zinc matrix]

I used only Enter on it.

[real palm]

Losing the numpad is heresy.
@rigid shoal layers tho

[rigid shoal]

Layers?

[zinc matrix]

I'm already past the initial pain of not having it and got used to reaching over to the BIG enter now.

[north torrent]

I use a numberpad on my main rig. For my desk at work next to my laptop I just went for a very small keyboard.

[real palm]

Yup. Numpad can be summoned to your home row via firmware level input mapping

[rigid shoal]

Interesting, but still. The layout of the numpad keys, being in a grid, etc.

[real palm]

or in software

if you like lag

[north torrent]

My laptop has a numberpad if I need it.

[fluid bloom]

logitech k740 is the ultimate keyboard.... if it had n-key rollover

[rigid shoal]

n-key rollover is like the only truly important thing. For a lot of games, at least.

[fluid bloom]

first Half-Life was a bit hard on this since W+Shift+Space doesn't work at the same time

[cursive crypt]

f... 364 cpm / 73 wpm

If it was so easy to type down code.

[fallow finch]

too quite

Can someone Help me Please Write an EULA Please My English is too bad to write something like this 😄

[cursive crypt]

Copy Paste it ®️ from somewhere. Nobody reads them anyway 🙂

[fallow finch]

Copy the Copyrights haha

[cursive crypt]

Why not really? Read one-two and place the best.

If you wanna do it, like pro's pro you need a layer or something.

[fallow finch]

if there are no problems with this i will do it xD

did you ever worked with steam works before ?

[cursive crypt]

Nope. Others can say.

[warped pumice]

I want to move art asses from one project to another but when I do that, assets dont show inside of the new project.
I tried to copy them manually and migrate.
Anyone know what could be the problem?

[fluid bloom]

are the files in the content folder if you check via file explorer in windows?

[warped pumice]

@fluid bloom Yes they are.

[broken sigil]

if there are no problems with this i will do it xD
@fallow finch
For the demo I released I found a template and filled out the project name and similar, the advice I got from most people was to use a template

[fallow finch]

Can you send it to me Please xD

and did you released it on steam ? @broken sigil

[broken sigil]

It was a couple of years ago, I released it on game jolt lol

[fallow finch]

oh nice

[broken sigil]

I wonder if game jolt is still around

It was popular at the time

[fallow finch]

never heard about it before xP

[zinc matrix]

Copejing

[fallow finch]

:p

[zinc matrix]

😛 😄 XD QQ GG WP

[fallow finch]

WIP

[kindred beacon]

https://i.redd.it/erlcybqxpom51.jpg

rate my uvs

[cursive crypt]

I like the shitty decals.

[fresh heath]

https://www.gtplanet.net/polyphony-outsource-car-model-20200913/

[lone grail]

Oo shiny

[fathom wadi]

3 months for a model of that quality would be about how long it would take me to make the knackered used car version 😄

[lone grail]

Lol

[oblique sandal]

Not sure if I'm allowed to post this here but how would this clip look for the beggining of a devlog? I'm planning to fade the name in at the end

[fluid bloom]

https://i.redd.it/u411r5z6jtm51.jpg

Rice?!?

[fallow finch]

Water Rice ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC9_Aan_S9Q&fbclid=IwAR3687BZojP8OPqUeNAlY4L2FA6e6L438LiojasQvv5KqCITg6OQDGNmcvQ

[median wraith]

<Now made in three months, outsourced to india> @fresh heath
Arstation posts: more than 1 year, aka maybe made 2 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41LRTWJttts&ab_channel=IMWithJay

[fresh heath]

Man, this is really sad

[north torrent]

Never heard of it.

[cursive crypt]

Yep, we all have our own story. Can't know everybody. Hope the dude stands up.

[carmine frigate]

well ppl usually dont care 2 shits about the crap i make either 🙂

you get used to it 🙂

[lone grail]

Yep

[carmine frigate]

not getting any feedback i would just count as positive feedback 🙂

[lone grail]

I post stuff on twitter and get 0 likes and 0 comments lol

[carmine frigate]

not getting told to piss off is a win in my book

my book of wins

[tulip orbit]

yeah, I finally got some actual feedback with my last alpha, I was super happy to get some

[carmine frigate]

did he say it was crap?

cuz than ur taking it positive 🙂

ur book of wins will be thick 🙂

[tulip orbit]

nope, it was pretty positive, but the consensus was that its a lot earlier in development than I thought it was

actually, a successful indiedev played it, and he thought it was an asset flip using marketplace stuff cause it looked good 🙂

he was surprised to find out I made the assets myself so early in development :/

[carmine frigate]

i would say devs dont provide good feedback, cuz they see diffrent things

and its most likely not ur target audience

[cursive crypt]

Can confirm. I don't play games almost. Dont understand the hype for them too.

[carmine frigate]

asset flip is a word only a dev would use

[tulip orbit]

well, I was hoping for a technical viewpoint of the alpha, but I got more bug reports from the non-devs

[cursive crypt]

Bug report: UI sux

[carmine frigate]

its completely irrelevant if u bought premade assets

[tulip orbit]

hehe, naw my UI is decent. But apparently the door blueprints and some other assets are rotating in game for some reason, like, not just the door, but the door frame too

[cursive crypt]

Its a feature. You open the doorframe.

[tulip orbit]

🙂

[cursive crypt]

Also I don't think assets flips is bad at all. Its how you use them. Consistency and stuff. Money + time, no asset flips. You decide.

[carmine frigate]

in half life alyx the first door you had to push open with ur head and ur hands were completely useless

thats some messed up gameplay right there

[cursive crypt]

Not familiar with the game, but likely it serves purpose. Doubt its put just like that.

[tulip orbit]

who uses their hands to open doors?

I always use my face

[cursive crypt]

... or ass. Its convenient.

[tulip orbit]

yeah, the ass is easier for pull doors

[cursive crypt]

Just hit the doorknob with it.

[tulip orbit]

squeeze turn and pull 🙂

[cursive crypt]

Exactly 😄

[carmine frigate]

i sometimes use my foot if my hands are full, but im kinda limber

and dont fall over fast even when im drunk

[fathom wadi]

Im so old I only work in FK mode now. My IK setup gets sore

[cursive crypt]

Its fine. Just move the door to meet your hand.

[fathom wadi]

I'm gonna build a robot that I control with VR. Get that to do everything for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgEH95t6m34

What I love about British people. Even in a pandemic, where numbers just shot up, new restrictions in place. They all go out for one last spread.

[cursive crypt]

Many ppl don't care in general. Our clubs are full max. They just put masks in stores and other public places.

[fathom wadi]

same. On public transport too.

Everything I've read correlates the rise with schools going back though. Which makes sense. Which is why we didn't send ours back

[cursive crypt]

If you can choose. We joke around that many parents are happy to send off the kids tho. Take a break.

[carmine frigate]

i thought gettin stabbed was something to worry about, those facemasks dont have high stab protection

well that prolly isnt ur target audience either

[plucky pagoda]

What is landscape "Virtual Heightfield mesh system"?

[carmine frigate]

if u know the definition of those 4 words , its prolly something like that

the word virtual gets put B4 anything tho

so its prolly just a '' heightfield mesh system

this could be any system that works with meshes and heightfields

hope that cleared things up a bit

[fathom wadi]

I was actually decyphering it the same way

but yeah side chaining audio is kind of vital now for physical sound I guess

unless you want to potentially and exponentially increase your sound asset count

[cursive crypt]

I kinda understand what it means, but can't come up with example?

[carmine frigate]

thats impossible without context

or verry much the opposite

could take random stabs of what it could possibly mean

[cursive crypt]

To me is kind of. You got a pan colliding down the stairs nearby, but then you got that bus which says ugh... that a pan, lets play Michael Jackson in background.

[fluid bloom]

I thought material layers were put on indefinite hold https://trello.com/c/fCFdQRIF

Trello

Material Layers

Material Layers are moving from Beta to Production.

Labels

Rendering

[carmine frigate]

i watched that stream a long time ago 😛

its prolly still deprecated info

[fresh heath]

@carmine frigate >asset flip is a word only a dev would use Eh, I've seen it a lot on the internet outside of any dev places, e.g. Jim Sterling and his fans use this word a lot

[carmine frigate]

Jim is the big guy with the purple dildo right?

[fresh heath]

Gaming news sites keep invoking it when talking about Steam's quality control

Yeah, that one

[carmine frigate]

ahh k 🙂

they dont mean they used bought assets, they mean total garbage gets sold there

[plucky pagoda]

I've never seen the term used other than to imply someone bought a bunch of assets and threw them together into a crap game.

It is the age of golden turds. Pretty crap.

[carmine frigate]

Valorant is called : shootergame.exe

[plucky pagoda]

A lot of games are.

[carmine frigate]

yea

and unity store has a limited supply of free assets that get used over and over again

over 90% of the ppl that buy games have no idea what asset flip means

also they dont buy trash games on a regular basis

well not that type of trash

like sony wouldnt even pay 5$ to give em away for free on ps now

[fresh heath]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hObFqLHrE5w

[thorny dock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRpwfxCgeOE

https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/templates/systems/beat-em-up-game-template-3d-98013#description

[fathom wadi]

I cant get into these games anymore. Back in the day (cue black and white montage), I used to hammer the Double Dragon games and Target Renegade and such. But these days, even the new Streets of Rage was just a boring button basher. Nice artwork though.

[thorny dock]

where is the root beet tapper and sinistar ripoffs? those would be fun..

[fathom wadi]

there is a beer tapper clone in Fallout 76

[thorny dock]

haha no way, going to check that out

[fathom wadi]

yeah pip boy gfx

[foggy path]

I just listen to the Streets of Rage soundtracks

haven't played any of 'em in ages

:D

Yuzo Koshiro is brilliant

[thorny dock]

wow bethesda, thats pretty great honestly, guess thats the one positive thing of 76

[fathom wadi]

It definitely had some classy work done on the game. It wasn't by any means a cheap clone game. It had its own character.

[carmine frigate]

i kinda liked shank

[foggy path]

Shank was fun, I remember playing it a long time ago

[carmine frigate]

shank 2 also fun great artwork

[foggy path]

also Guacamelee

[carmine frigate]

no coop tho :/

[foggy path]

never finished guacamelee but it was fun

[rugged storm]

almost there lol

[carmine frigate]

also mayB he mistype and thought it was 200 ruppies

[zinc matrix]

@plucky pagoda i don’t we recieve those in case of a fire up here in Poland, even if we did the person who’ll get it would probably be our landlord because for the three years of renting the place we never got the renting contract so I won’t be getting any insurance, but I still have the keys to the place so if writing a note with my name on it or something of that sort would be proof then I’ll be glad to do it, not for the cash rather for the simple fact that I don’t want to people to think of me as a scam or sum

[carmine frigate]

when u thought 2020 was shit w/o all ur crap burning up

ha jokes on you, bees get verry passive when there is a lot of smoke

[plucky pagoda]

I've reached out to the person in charge of the people in that photo to ask if it is legitimate.

[carmine frigate]

i also doubt that net wil stop a facehugger

[foggy path]

Based on a quick google it suggests that photo is related to a fundraiser campaign for a polish volunteer fire department

definitely kind of curious if that is legit fire dept equipment lol

[plucky pagoda]

it is.

[carmine frigate]

well those boots are cool, and that girl is pretty hot, sign me up

[foggy path]

lol

[carmine frigate]

i dont mind risking my life

friend of mine is in the fire dep, a lambo was parked infront of a hydrant, he just punched out the windows

[tulip orbit]

was there even a fire?

[median wraith]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/09/nvidia-reportedly-to-acquire-arm-holdings-from-softbank-for-40-billion/

[zinc matrix]

can someone help me ith something dm me please

plz

[plucky pagoda]

@zinc matrix You haven't asked anything and are spamming the channels with this. If you want help by DM you need to offer some $$. Otherwise ask a question in the appropriate channel. Maybe stop by and read the rules too.

[zinc matrix]

k

[thorny dock]

@zinc matrix https://stackoverflow.com/help/how-to-ask

[carmine frigate]

i just give stupid answers

[fallow finch]

Which country offer a permit resident for investigating with few $

Like ¹⁰ or ²⁰ dollar 😋

[median wraith]

That depends on the kind of investment area

[plucky pagoda]

I feel like if a question is asked in lounge a little bit of smartassery is appropriate when answering.

[fallow finch]

I heard Sweden is the best area

[median wraith]

If you come to Spain not only will be allowed to get residence but you will be paid

Well if you are a woman with kids, if not, you got a free ticket to UK <where you will be deported>

[fallow finch]

Not with my passport mate

If i want to go to toilet i need a visa xP

[median wraith]

Well people that comes from Africa does without passport

that's the fault

[fallow finch]

Yupe

[median wraith]

claim you have no passport

[fallow finch]

I have it

But no passport also better than mine😋

[soft night]

ToiletPort

[fallow finch]

Iraqi passport the last one in the list

This year

Because of beautiful government we have

[median wraith]

my ID card picture looks like the king of the gypsies

[soft night]

my ID card picture is from when my head looked slimmer

[fallow finch]

Lol

[median wraith]

The guy that made it were like

[fallow finch]

Well my id card picture good when i had some hair

[median wraith]

Are you sure ?

[fallow finch]

Now my head shinny

[median wraith]

^ then no like that

🤖

[soft night]

well when you look so young on your ID card compare to your current

[fallow finch]

https://tenor.com/view/right-dr-evil-sarcastic-okay-bald-gif-17343060

Yea now im looking too old

Just 27 y.o

But glasses . No hair . One ear working . 😂

Junk

[carmine frigate]

ahh yea when crack addicts are in better shape than you 🙂

[fallow finch]

Lool

[median wraith]

People thinks I got 9 years less so

all is fine

[tulip orbit]

less or left

[median wraith]

Well maybe both

XD

[fallow finch]

Just shave you beard you will be 15 y.o xP

[median wraith]

People got drunken from 15 to 30

ends with a tumor and looking like them were in prison

then you look like 15 <I'm not 24 if someone ask about math logic there, is just an example>

[carmine frigate]

some chemo would look good on me

[fallow finch]

Drunken??

You mean drunk ?

[median wraith]

yeah drunk

[fallow finch]

Ew

[median wraith]

I mean english is invented you can say it whatever way it is

[fallow finch]

Im not smoking even xD

Got it but the word was new for me

[median wraith]

I'm the only one here that don't even drink coffee

[fallow finch]

Me too

xD

[median wraith]

How dare you to take my place

[fallow finch]

We are 2 now

[median wraith]

🤖

😂

[rich quiver]

ps5 price leak in spain

[median wraith]

Well good to know

[fallow finch]

[median wraith]

@rich quiver what it is ?

299$ == 700€

[rich quiver]

@median wraith €399/€499

[median wraith]

oh well

for 500€ you can buy the fans of the new Nvidia GPU

[fallow finch]

Haha

[rich quiver]

400 euros digital
same price as a xbox series x the disc version 500 euros

[carmine frigate]

yea but nvidia gpu comes with free online play 😛

[median wraith]

well lets see how long

Microsoft ported absurd prices already to PC and nobody cared other than couple and me

[rich quiver]

the price keep leaking because of back end stuff not getting properly protected

on both companies

[carmine frigate]

well fuck xbox and playstation, im getting a sega

[median wraith]

This seems more like COD leaks, are part of the american hypocrisy

[rich quiver]

FF16 leak for a 3 time this week

[median wraith]

Are planned to get people hyped

They pretend to be real, just as their human documentals

[carmine frigate]

the dumbest shit ever gets leaked these days

[median wraith]

That's why America is the first industry in the world of human documentaries

If you get what I mean

[carmine frigate]

like the new ipad design, i looked at it and was like.. yea thats an ipad

they all look the same

[median wraith]

they made mask and all from apple

bet Steve Jobs had the job done about facial masks too

as they named about iPhones

such a visionary

[carmine frigate]

he is dead now tho, long live elon musk

[median wraith]

another visionary

[carmine frigate]

he seems like an allright fellow

[median wraith]

by the way

we had the smokes from the California fires over spain 2 days ago

kinda bad what is going there

someone said they won't manage to deal with them until maybe november/december

[mossy nexus]

Cool. I think... 😄

[carmine frigate]

i dont like his profile pic, ill put him in the nutcase list

[mossy nexus]

lol Brain Cox is one of sensible ones. Even if he was in a crappy pop band years n years ago.. 😄

[carmine frigate]

ill keep him in the nutcase list just to be sure

it got over 4billion people in there allready

the rest is on pending

[mossy nexus]

This should clear it all up.
When absorbing boundary conditions are used to evaporate a black hole in AdS/CFT, we show that there is a phase transition in the location of the quantum Ryu-Takayanagi
surface, at precisely the Page time. The new RT surface lies slightly inside the event horizon, at an infalling time approximately the scrambling time β/2π log SBH into the past. We can
immediately derive the Page curve, using the Ryu-Takayanagi formula, and the HaydenPreskill decoding criterion, using entanglement wedge reconstruction. Because part of the
interior is now encoded in the early Hawking radiation, the decreasing entanglement entropy of the black hole is exactly consistent with the semiclassical bulk entanglement of the latetime Hawking modes, despite the absence of a firewall.
By studying the entanglement wedge of highly mixed states, we can understand the state dependence of the interior reconstructions. A crucial role is played by the existence of tiny,
non-perturbative errors in entanglement wedge reconstruction. Directly after the Page time, interior operators can only be reconstructed from the Hawking radiation if the initial state
of the black hole is known. As the black hole continues to evaporate, reconstructions become possible that simultaneously work for a large class of initial states. Using similar techniques, we generalise Hayden-Preskill to show how the amount of Hawking radiation required to reconstruct a large diary, thrown into the black hole, depends on both the energy and the entropy of the diary. Finally we argue that, before the evaporation begins, a single, state independent interior reconstruction exists for any code space of microstates with entropy strictly less than the Bekenstein-Hawking entropy, and show that this is sufficient state dependence to avoid the AMPSS typical-state firewall paradox.

Obviously.

[broken sigil]

@mossy nexus understood 2 words of all that lol

[carmine frigate]

im not a big hawking fan

einstein was dope tho

[north torrent]

I heard Mr. Hawking was not a big fan of you either.

[carmine frigate]

man he should have told me when he was alive

i would have whooped his ass

bet im better downhill wheelchairing than him aswell

[soft night]

@zinc matrix did you see Mandalorian first episode?

[carmine frigate]

ive seen em all 😛

it was actually pretty decent

[soft night]

i saw one finnish tweet about that no pass

[soft night]

for that guy the show is too western like

[rich quiver]

https://twitter.com/Microsoft/status/1305282316801994754

Microsoft (@Microsoft)

Microsoft statement on TikTok:
https://t.co/HioNmVlDpk

Twitter

[broken sigil]

tiktok might be one of the worst things that happened to humanity

[rich quiver]

https://twitter.com/technology/status/1305286011912679429

Bloomberg Technology (@technology)

BREAKING: Nvidia says it agreed to buy SoftBank’s chip division Arm Ltd. for $40 billion, in the semiconductor industry’s largest-ever deal
https://t.co/aoeufUBdIA

Twitter

ARM chip is part of Nvidia know

[fresh heath]

I wonder how soon I will be able to buy an ARM-based workstation

Apparently at least one already exists: https://www.anandtech.com/show/15733/ampere-emag-system-a-32core-arm64-workstation

[rich quiver]

Oracle won the deal with tik tok
they will also kill it like java

[fresh heath]

or like SPARC

[foggy path]

so out of curiosity I turned on ray traced GI for my game

13 frames per second lol

on a GTX 1080 Ti mind you, it might not be quite that bad with an RTX card :P

but the interesting thing I guess is that it does look pretty good, waaaay better than it would look with "standard" dynamic lights

[tulip orbit]

ooh, I should try that too

Hm. ue4 is having a hard time loading now

[foggy path]

it takes a while to load when you enable ray tracing

not sure what it's doing during that time

[tulip orbit]

lots of ShaderCompileWorkers

[foggy path]

it did also compile some more shaders after it loaded

[tulip orbit]

was taking so long for even the loadscreen to show I thought it didnt restart, so I started another copy... two were going...

[foggy path]

:D

yeah that's such a fun feature

[tulip orbit]

ctrl-alt-deleted one copy

[foggy path]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/334807289351372812/754872453125374012/unknown.png this was my level I was testing with

each of those light fixtures you see in that has one rect light

normally it just uses static light build for those :P

[tulip orbit]

yeah

mine is a pretty simple lighting setup, but because my game is top down, theres no ceilings, which is making it hard for lights and reflections

Hmm. I wonder how long this will take to shader compile...

..... this may have been a bad idea...

[foggy path]

:D

Did I mention the editor was also quite visibly laggy while I was testing it lol

[tulip orbit]

Well... I guess I'll go do something else while it does its thing... and hope my computer doesnt burst into flames while it does it

[foggy path]

:D

well if you have at least a 1080 you're probably going to be okay

[tulip orbit]

I have a 1080, but its bottlenecking on my CPU while it compiles

[foggy path]

my friend with a 970 tried turning it on and I think he ran out of ram or something and everything just crashed :D

[tulip orbit]

woo, editor is up to 75% now

93!

[foggy path]

https://giphy.com/gifs/wwe-smackdown-live-1000-8JZmEBXoCgDleNWFUt

[tulip orbit]

I'm in! 8k textures to compile now

[foggy path]

that'll be a breeze

[tulip orbit]

not on my computer

I'm still on Win7, I wonder if I can have ray tracing...

[foggy path]

oh

I'm pretty sure the UE docs said it needs win 10 :P

but it's kinda weird if it actually let you turn it all on if it wasn't supported...

[tulip orbit]

just checked, yeah , needs win10 😦

weee

Yup. absolutely no difference. 😄

[foggy path]

weird that it'd go through all those steps to compile shit that it won't even bother using :D

[tulip orbit]

yeah. Now I have to disable, and it'll probably recompile everything

[foggy path]

it actually didn't at least for me

[tulip orbit]

well knowing my luck...

loaded to editor pretty quick, but is recompiling shaders again

one day I'll be able to upgrade my computer.....

eh, I'm off to bed.

[fluid bloom]

windows 7?

damn

[ancient hornet]

raytracing for DX12 is only available in rather up to date Windows 10 versions yeah

if/when UE4 implements Vulkan RTX maybe you can try again 🙂

[fallow finch]

x( RTX 3090

Can we buy 5 of them for free ??

[fallow finch]

I wont buy until i sell my first copy of my game xP

Until i feel the success

[north torrent]

I'll buy all the RTX 3090s.

[zinc matrix]

y'all saw that prince of persia trailer?

the models look like ps3 characters

the enviroment looked good but the models looked bad bro

[elfin zinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBzB69TnmS0

[median wraith]

https://twitter.com/romero/status/1305472384686850048

𝕵𝖔𝖍𝖓 𝕽𝖔𝖒𝖊𝖗𝖔 (@romero)

Irish Wolfhounds are gigantic. Here's Cronan and Garvan taking me out for a walk this weekend. #houndsofhell #wolfhound #wolfhound3d

Likes

466

Twitter

John is like 185 isn't ?

I could use one of these dogs as horse

[cursive crypt]

Don't know how high is that person, but the dogs are fluffy.

[zinc matrix]

that ain't a dog that's a bear

or maybe the dude is short

[dreamy siren]

Hi there

I need help

My budget is very low

Suggest me a Good CPU please

Under 300$

😢

[foggy path]

Check benchmarks for CPUs in your price range

that's usually the way to go

[fathom wadi]

nothing less than a ryzen 3950x for me now.

[quiet narwhal]

a good cpu would be based on your current system, what you want to do, and your price range. We have a price range but we dont know the current system or what you want to do. We dont know if this is a cpu replacement (keeping mainboard and memory) or if the budget needs a new mainboard.

etc. etc..

[median wraith]

Basically what Mathew said

[cursive crypt]

Nice dog, btw

[dreamy siren]

I just want a complete new cpu cabinet

@quiet narwhal sir

I'm an indian ...
300$ = 21000+ ruppes.
It's annual fee of my graduation course

Its a lot for me😢

[soft night]

@zinc matrix he have said it in GTC2020

he used it often

well during all those DGX units what cost a dime also and more

jetson family show it nicely too

[mint shore]

anyone familiar with licenses, specifically gplv2?

[foggy path]

somewhat

[mint shore]

ok here's the situation:
we have a gameclient > gameserver > coordinator(custom server) > maria/mysql db(under gplv2 license)
the coordinator is the only one ever communicating to the db and is never distributed publically. so the question is whether we're still fine to do that under gplv2

[placid thistle]

No one is talking about Oculus Quest 2 ?!

[quiet narwhal]

is it official official yet?

[placid thistle]

official leaks 😂

XR2 SoC, 2k per eye, 6Gb RAM, smaller, lighter

that's straight from leaked Facebook infomercials

[quiet narwhal]

ah

[placid thistle]

Boz said "welp" and "a lot more to come on Wednesday"

[mossy nexus]

Although nothing mentioning it's audio capabilities or the outside in tracking blind spots.

[cursive crypt]

@mint shore You can, but technically you need to make the code freely available. Have to check the nuances between v3 and v2 tho.

Also it pretty much depends what > means.

[placid thistle]

@mossy nexus as far as listener of spatialized audio, you are never outside the tracking spot, lol

[mossy nexus]

yeah that's not what I meant by the blind spots. I was referring to the blind spots of the inside out tracking of the controllers

[placid thistle]

hopefully it's no worse than it is on OG Quest

never had issues with that

[mossy nexus]

I would like to think it's better

Depends on the game I should think.

[mint shore]

@cursive crypt thanks. we're currently evaluating postgres alternatively.
i havent checked v3 at all tbh. i'm terrible when it comes to licenses that dont say "do whatever" :D

[foggy path]

if the gpl component is a separate system which is not distributed then you don't need to do anything

Postgres is great tho, it's got great support for constraints which are super useful to ensure data consistency

[mint shore]

yeah, my backend coder seems to be keen on it

maria also seems to have lackluster support/documentation.
anyways thanks for the replies. appreciated \o

[foggy path]

afaik Maria is basically same as MySQL for most part anyway :D

[mint shore]

thats what i gather. oh well :D

gotta work this out one step at a time

[fringe sundial]

@mint shore been reading a lot on gpl

the whole "using it in a web server" is proven legal due to google, amazon, and others doing exactly that, at scale

specially if the webserver isnt open to the public

tho

unless it ISNT the latest license

i think the latest version of agpl does include the server thing, and considers it release (cant use gpl)

but gpl2 and gpl3 should be good

[mint shore]

ok great, thanks for the clarification!

[fringe sundial]

GPL2 just says "release"

it doesnt even define what release means

so thats a "lol defend it in court"

GPL3 explicitly says release as shipping the product to other guy who can make copies and ship to other people

so web servers are 100% excempt in GPL3 in all cases

[mint shore]

yeah i wasn wondering about that. also they tend to conflate "copy AND publish" with "copy OR publish" which doesnt help :D

[plucky pagoda]

Any good media server recommendations?

[tulip orbit]

Yup. still 2020.

[magic wasp]

@rancid sierra
I tried to offer you some work but got this instead.

if you going to #looking-for-work on here you should allow people to contact you...

[fathom wadi]

Maybe he doesnt want to work for you :p

@plucky pagoda Plex is one I had on my radar when the PS4 released and they removed streaming from the console

[woeful rain]

there was this one website that had images of basically every menu screen for a LOT of games and I can't seem to find it if anyone knows what I'm talking about EDIT: gameandtype.com

[plucky pagoda]

@fathom wadi I use Plex now.

[fathom wadi]

ahh

in which case if you find a better one let me know

[lucid walrus]

Great! Windows Explorer keeps using 13% CPU and never writes any files... restarting it doesn't work, end task doesn't work

I just updated to the latest Windows 10 update, didn't matter... god damnit...

[fathom wadi]

That seems like malware to me. Unless you have some anti-virus, in which case, again, it's malware.

[median wraith]

cool

[fathom wadi]

@zinc matrix thats called Freestyle. It's pretty good but for animation it can be a bit of a nightmare. Often it culls where you don't want it to, even with Edge marking. You can also use Grease Pencil for more animated and frame-by-frame control.

[median wraith]

@fathom wadi interesting tweet of accessibility thing

[fathom wadi]

yeah I started out in that area so I keep an eye on things when I can.

You have to do it to know, but the level of emotion in seeing a disabled person use a computer when they thought it was physically impossible for them, it's beyond words.

What bugs me is there hasn't been much of a focus on it until Microsoft started with their Xbox peripheral. I think in both terms of commercial viability and honest to God human love and respect for disabled people, in no particular order of course, it should have been focused on earlier in game dev. We are an outlet for so many people's depression and life situations to be ignored for a moment, it seems natural to cater for more than just the standard idea of who and what a gamer really is.

[median wraith]

I wish to go where there is disabled people or alike and let them play some game with these cool techs

maybe is the best thing you can get in return looking these people playing

[fathom wadi]

it is indeed. I used to work with Air Pressure based peripherals using Apple Macs to allow cerebral palsy sufferers to use a computer. Amongst other things. One guy was so happy that I had made him a new alphabet chart to speak with, he punched me in the nuts. He didn't mean to, he just lost control of his arm 😄

[median wraith]

xd

[soft night]

then his leg?

[plucky pagoda]

Any sites that let you list stuff as "pay what you want" without the file size limit? Gumroad won't let you list something over 25MB for free.

[plucky pagoda]

Anyone willing to see if they can open and use a zipped up project? I'm trying to strip it down to under 25MB zipped so I can set the price free on Gumroad. I just want to make sure it opens for someone else before I put it up.

[quiet narwhal]

sure

[plucky pagoda]

Thanks

I DM'd it to you.

[abstract haven]

@zinc matrix I made something similar to that in zbrush, using the NPR renderer

it has some filters which distort the edges etc, think there is something similar in blender

[plucky pagoda]

Love that.

Have you seen this guys stuff: https://www.artstation.com/carloscavalcante

He's been doing a lot of stuff like that in Blender and sharing breakdowns of it on twitter.

[abstract haven]

it was fun, but difficult to get the inside edges to be inked, and cel shading to look right, it uses a cavity map to detect the edges to run the outline filter over, but you dont have much control of it, and cant specify your own one

cool

yeah the linework is pretty important but usually shader artefacts if you dont provide a map or something for it to work off

[plucky pagoda]

I use normals for the one I'm using right now. I throw the vertices through a normal node in Houdini and set the cusp value based on where I want the lines to show up.

[abstract haven]

yeah normals can work too

[scenic glen]

Do we have sales/discount promos next month like in blendermarket, gumroad, artstation?

[cursive crypt]

Next month? Sales are not revealed earlier.

[fallow finch]

https://tenor.com/view/hacker-pc-meme-matrix-codes-gif-16730883

[cursive crypt]

Its a good start. Now days most programming languages deal only with English anyway.

[soft night]

mine is Finglish

as english and finnish mixed

[median wraith]

finally quality games on the googleplay store https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/621066012694937674/755410433531183126/Screenshot_20200915_130745_com.ludia.lovelink.jpg?width=384&height=832

😂

[median wraith]

Crytek caustics

totally no pasted on the texture from what it seems the boat shadow and waves not affecting it

welcome to 2007

[median wraith]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1286350/BPM_BULLETS_PER_MINUTE/

Steam

BPM: BULLETS PER MINUTE

Fight as a mighty Valkyrie to repel the forces of the underworld from invading the world of Asgard. GameplayIn BPM, all of your actions and the actions of your enemies are tied to the beat of the music. Your enemies perform a dance-like sequence of attacks to an epic rock oper...

Price

$17.99

▶ Play video

this released today

[zinc matrix]

unity released a blog about 2020.2

it had 0 information on dots, not even a word

🤔

[median wraith]

Marked as finished

[median wraith]

it does

Mons is on every single game

🤖

Leaved the channel by the way

sadly yeah, a lot of people leaved

could surprise you how many people does sub channels to pretend them be better

[tulip orbit]

Dont worry, I'm still here.

[wind oyster]

Me too

[plucky pagoda]

If you're going to take the trouble to upload a demo of your market asset don't use shipping build. FFS, half the point is being able to see stats and shader complexity.

[fathom wadi]

do what I do. Don't build it. In fact, dont finish it. Just sit there, procrastinating whilst the world eats itself. Safe in the assumption, none of it is worth much until we become human again.

[plucky pagoda]

If this editor doesn't stop crashing from slate errors I might just join you.

[median wraith]

we will become human again ?

are you sure ?

The other day were talking 15min with a bot made by the bank

Today I'm talking with a bot on a mobile app

😂

What a nice social life

[fathom wadi]

https://twitter.com/UnrealEngine/status/1305964349962547200?s=20 this is bullshit. I mean, the best shit ever.

Unreal Engine 5 #UE5 (@UnrealEngine)

Digital twin specialists 51World have created a complete and near photoreal virtual replica of Shanghai. #UE4

Find out how they've simulated all 3,750 square kilometers of China's most populous city:
https://t.co/JIg55txafB

Twitter

@median wraith Some of us still are. I get the feeling though most have been distracted from being humans right now. But then I spent too much time on Twitter recently. It gets tiring.

but as for the cloning of Shanghai.... if I had money back in 2014, and carried on with my geodata road tool, thats where I was heading. China have the nice advantage of owning a crapload of satellites to do it better than I could. But this is the start the future where we have drone lanes and flying motorways

[dim ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/notsure500-we-dont-need-roads-gif-17954999

[median wraith]

@fathom wadi Well that's impressive but MS Flight Sim 2020 is a thing too

how compares ?

[fathom wadi]

Because you can't control a smart city from Flight sim

There is market opening up for virtual cities like this for heavy duty work. It's started already. If you can control a system like this, you can sell the data to so many businesses, create virtual worlds for commerce, Augmented reality enhancements, policing, traffic control, the list goes on.

[median wraith]

<Some of us still are.> Na we are canceled by the rest, say hello to the extinction starting by our gender

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81XCUD%2BHAYL._AC_SY450_.jpg

[plucky pagoda]

It's a huge market

like billions

[median wraith]

Smarth cities here share the data public

[fathom wadi]

If there were megagrants back then, I'd have used that opportunity to apply. But right now, nothing going on worth the letdown 😄

[median wraith]

But we already applied

[plucky pagoda]

I think one of the people selling IK on the market is passive aggressively stalking me.

[fathom wadi]

London is setting up as a smart city. Had been for years, but not like this. All previous work has been gloss over insufficient tech. Now we have the bandwidth to push enough interactive data streams around, it's like xmas for surveillance states 😄

[median wraith]

why the hell why need that

that's the question of the absurd overkill this days

[fathom wadi]

because its the way of the New Epoch sir.

Do you need a blast on the Persuadatron?

[median wraith]

lol

[fathom wadi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrruSboN1bQ Im gonna apply for a megagrant to remake this in UE5.

the trailer not the game

[median wraith]

XD

[plucky pagoda]

Oh there was a an old dos game called that that I loved

It was top down

[fathom wadi]

Yeah that would be Syndicate Wars

or Syndicate

[plucky pagoda]

Yeah, never played the wars one

[fathom wadi]

it was the better game

[plucky pagoda]

had it on the atarii of maybe a pentium 233

probably the Pentium. I built my first Linux desktop around then

https://youtu.be/6cjCj7ma8u0

[median wraith]

I'm getting pregacy tests ads everywhere whats going on ?

[plucky pagoda]

It had the precursors to so many things that came later in other games.

[fathom wadi]

@median wraith social engineering. COVID has reduced the amount of people breeding, so they are telling you in advance, you're gonna get someone pregnant. Prepare now. Apply for a megagrant 😄

[plucky pagoda]

I'm starting to hate how many "copied a tutorial" assets are on the market.

Someone in your house probably bought something or looked at something that triggered the algorithm

[median wraith]

I don't know man, a friend I had in the main city the gf were fired and they hardly can foking pay the rent

[plucky pagoda]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/02/16/how-target-figured-out-a-teen-girl-was-pregnant-before-her-father-did/#3930f05e6668

[median wraith]

I don't see anyone having kids right now

Without count that about the 85% of individuals are alone

[plucky pagoda]

You'd have to be crazy to want to have a kid right now in the US.

[median wraith]

Here isn't even an option I think

like

[median wraith]

2 individuals working on Madrid get like 1300 each one and the house 1250€ plus without count the rest of expensives things that can be another 500€ then food

about 11h out of house

9-10h of these at work

looking good to me

Maybe you can buy the test to play Doom

😂

@plucky pagoda what the green means ?

[carmine frigate]

@median wraith didnt u repost that doom on a test vid?

thats how AI works, its not actually intelligent just good at spamming

than again u might be pregnant, congratz

[tulip orbit]

that would imply somebody slept with him, so doubt it

[carmine frigate]

takes 1 to know 1

[tulip orbit]

we single guys have a familiar odor. ...and stickiness

[plucky pagoda]

@median wraith

But it's an average over a period of time.

https://fire.airnow.gov/

Most of them are hourly averages I think. Not sure exactly.

[alpine fern]

no data is the worst level?

does it mean the sensors burned down, literal death zone

[carmine frigate]

nah thats when u just high a fuck

[plucky pagoda]

Or the best. It's a schrodinger's data point.

I like this site better for more realtime data https://www.windy.com/-PM2-5-pm2p5?cams,pm2p5,43.016,-84.670,4,m:eU0aeeL

[carmine frigate]

looks like some1 in portugal owns a 3090

[median wraith]

@carmine frigate yeah but I get it since before

[carmine frigate]

mayB some1 in ur appartment building or something 😛

[plucky pagoda]

That's like breathe and you die

[median wraith]

I just found a new artist related with a catalan one that does gore hardcore comics and is famous, but this time from russia

Good lord these are good

[carmine frigate]

ahh those can be fun

[median wraith]

https://instagram.com/gudim_public?igshid=a802fsk09f3t

[plucky pagoda]

fire tornados have been rebranded and trademarked for 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOGKD-uOO-8

When you keep adding more energy into a global system things are going to get crazy.

A little disappointed we haven't had sharknadoes yet. Maybe by the end of the week?

lol

https://tenor.com/view/dramatic-cry-will-ferrell-gif-13298637

[carmine frigate]

well dunno about u guys but ive had worse years 🙂

2020 pretty decent here

[plucky pagoda]

It's a mixed bag here. We're pretty lucky.

[carmine frigate]

its great

must say my house isnt in the middle of a fire tornado

[plucky pagoda]

Wife's job is good. her lab is locked down and a controlled enviroment, they have on site instant tests, we have everything delivered. Fast internet. bills are paid. So from a personal standpoint, it's all good.

Someone spammed the bidding form on one of my domains for sale with "copying games" in the comment section of the make an offer box.

[carmine frigate]

i have no idea what u just said

i might build a bombshelter out of old nokia phones , ill be 2021 ready

[plucky pagoda]

Sounds solid

[lone grail]

Build an iron man suit out of nokia phones and face your problems face to face

[plucky pagoda]

I'm making pancakes, sausage patties and eggs for dinner

[lone grail]

Nice, I got borgers

[plucky pagoda]

Nice